Re: [newbie] mandrake 6.0 with pentium II, Apache Server, Oracle 8i
By default root cannot login remotely. It is not suggested to do this as it is a security risk. This can be gotten around if you really need to do it by editing /etc/securetty file. As for the problem with X windows, not sure what is causing that as I have the graphic log in and have no problems login in as root. At 09:57 AM 3/2/2000 -0600, FlipZ wrote: i got 2 problems: 1. I can't login as root, but i can login as my user and su to root. 2., Startx works with root but not the other users Any help would be greta. FlipZ
Re: [newbie] mandrake 6.0 with pentium II, Apache Server, Oracle 8i
i got 2 problems: 1. I can't login as root, but i can login as my user and su to root. 2., Startx works with root but not the other users Any help would be greta. FlipZ
RE: [newbie] mandrake 6.0 with pentium II, Apache Server, Oracle 8i
It's becuase you set the security to high somewhere during the installation. I'm still trying to figure out how to log in as root too other than SU. I did notice that draksec allows you to change the security level and calls upon some script. However, I would like to learn how to do it manually. Anybody??? Thanks! -Original Message- From: FlipZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 7:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 6.0 with pentium II, Apache Server, Oracle 8i i got 2 problems: 1. I can't login as root, but i can login as my user and su to root. 2., Startx works with root but not the other users Any help would be greta. FlipZ
Re: [newbie] mandrake 6.0 with pentium II, Apache Server, Oracle 8i
FlipZ I got the same problem. Passwd didnt help either. Let me know if you get an answer that works. MacMillan said to ship it back for a refund, but I'd like to fix it instead of sending it back. steve Original Message Follows From: "FlipZ" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 6.0 with pentium II, Apache Server, Oracle 8i Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:57:25 -0600 i got 2 problems: 1. I can't login as root, but i can login as my user and su to root. 2., Startx works with root but not the other users Any help would be greta. FlipZ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] mandrake 6.0 with pentium II, Apache Server, Oracle 8i
I want to set up Apache Server and install Oracle 8i. Any adivice will be appreciated. I installed Mandrake 6.0 yesterday. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can excercise their constitutional right of amending it, or excercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 = 7.0 with backup
Hello, I've burnt the Mandrake 7.0 install CD. I'm currently running a Mandrake 6.0. How can I install Mandrake 7.0 without losing the current 6.0 installation in case the 7.0 installation fails for any reason ? (I do have a free partition, but it is a secondary partition, and it is located at the far end of the hard disk, so I guess not bootable ?) Thanks for any help Vincent DECOUX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
at this point, typing "startx" without the quotes shold get you in windows, if that fails, type "xf86config" and setup your x information. Remember, you're in Unix now, things are case sensitive. ALSO, you can type "startx -- -bpp 16" to load in 16 bit more or you can also do 24 and 32 bits. jason === --- Jason M. Shatto A+ Certified Technician email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet/ftp/http cr.dyndns.org Computer Renaissance - Cincinnati email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.recycledcomputers.com --- On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Jake Pettengill wrote: Hi, My name is Jake and I bought your Maximum Linux magazine #1. I enjoyed the magazine but i have trouble installing the Linux Mandrake 6.0 in my computer (h.p) I have install it several times now, but failed to work. I'm don't familiar with Linux but I want to learn from it. I'm going to explain you what happens when I try to get in. 1- Turn on the computer and choose Linux 2- In my screen it appears The Penguin 3- and I'm asked for a login, wich I type jakepp (the one I typed in the installation) 4- then I type my password (333666) and i get this: Last login: Fri Jan 28 14:42:48 on tty1 [jakepp@localhost jakepp]$ After this it stays like this, i type "help" and it gives me a list, I also typed "Tab" key and it gives me another list. I am trying hard to get it to work but I think is time to ask for help from people who know, I also followed the 12 easy steps from the magazine and I also tryed to do it in Workstation and Custom but failed to do so. I would really appreciate if you can help, thank you! Sincerely Jake Pettengill __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0
Hi, My name is Jake and I bought your Maximum Linux magazine #1. I enjoyed the magazine but i have trouble installing the Linux Mandrake 6.0 in my computer (h.p) I have install it several times now, but failed to work. I'm don't familiar with Linux but I want to learn from it. I'm going to explain you what happens when I try to get in. 1- Turn on the computer and choose Linux 2- In my screen it appears The Penguin 3- and I'm asked for a login, wich I type jakepp (the one I typed in the installation) 4- then I type my password (333666) and i get this: Last login: Fri Jan 28 14:42:48 on tty1 [jakepp@localhost jakepp]$ After this it stays like this, i type "help" and it gives me a list, I also typed "Tab" key and it gives me another list. I am trying hard to get it to work but I think is time to ask for help from people who know, I also followed the 12 easy steps from the magazine and I also tryed to do it in Workstation and Custom but failed to do so. I would really appreciate if you can help, thank you! Sincerely Jake Pettengill __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
Jake Pettengill wrote: Hi, My name is Jake and I bought your Maximum Linux magazine #1. I enjoyed the magazine but i have trouble installing the Linux Mandrake 6.0 in my computer (h.p) I have install it several times now, but failed to work. I'm don't familiar with Linux but I want to learn from it. I'm going to explain you what happens when I try to get in. 1- Turn on the computer and choose Linux 2- In my screen it appears The Penguin 3- and I'm asked for a login, wich I type jakepp (the one I typed in the installation) 4- then I type my password (333666) and i get this: Last login: Fri Jan 28 14:42:48 on tty1 [jakepp@localhost jakepp]$ After this it stays like this, i type "help" and it gives me a list, I also typed "Tab" key and it gives me another list. I am trying hard to get it to work but I think is time to ask for help from people who know, I also followed the 12 easy steps from the magazine and I also tryed to do it in Workstation and Custom but failed to do so. I would really appreciate if you can help, thank you! Sincerely Jake Pettengill __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com linux is installed on your computer, what your doing is logging in on the command line no gui. type startx after you get [jakepp@localhost jakepp]$. that more than likely put you in kde as your window manager. lawrence
Re: [[newbie] Mandrake 6.0]
"Jake Pettengill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My name is Jake and I bought your Maximum Linux magazine #1. I enjoyed the magazine but i have trouble installing the Linux Mandrake 6.0 in my computer (h.p) I have install it several times now, but failed to work. I'm don't familiar with Linux but I want to learn from it. I'm going to explain you what happens when I try to get in. 1- Turn on the computer and choose Linux 2- In my screen it appears The Penguin 3- and I'm asked for a login, wich I type jakepp (the one I typed in the installation) 4- then I type my password (333666) and i get this: Last login: Fri Jan 28 14:42:48 on tty1 [jakepp@localhost jakepp]$ After this it stays like this, i type "help" and it gives me a list, I also typed "Tab" key and it gives me another list. I am trying hard to get it to work but I think is time to ask for help from people who know, I also followed the 12 easy steps from the magazine and I also tryed to do it in Workstation and Custom but failed to do so. I would really appreciate if you can help, thank you! Sincerely Jake Pettengill = Instead of typing "help", try typing "startx" w/o the quotes ;o) This will get you into a gui interface (probably KDE) which will be easier for you to begin with. HTH, Mike ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
Jake Pettengill wrote: Hi, My name is Jake and I bought your Maximum Linux magazine #1. I enjoyed the magazine but i have trouble installing the Linux Mandrake 6.0 in my computer (h.p) I have install it several times now, but failed to work. I'm don't familiar with Linux but I want to learn from it. I'm going to explain you what happens when I try to get in. 1- Turn on the computer and choose Linux 2- In my screen it appears The Penguin 3- and I'm asked for a login, wich I type jakepp (the one I typed in the installation) 4- then I type my password (333666) and i get this: Last login: Fri Jan 28 14:42:48 on tty1 [jakepp@localhost jakepp]$ After this it stays like this, i type "help" and it gives me a list, I also typed "Tab" key and it gives me another list. I am trying hard to get it to work but I think is time to ask for help from people who know, I also followed the 12 easy steps from the magazine and I also tryed to do it in Workstation and Custom but failed to do so. I would really appreciate if you can help, thank you! Sincerely Jake Pettengill __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Congratulations! Apparently you have gotten a good install (so far). What you are seeing is a command prompt, similar to the msdos prompt you may be familiar w/ in M$ land. You really need to get a beginners book, like Linux in a Nutshell, or Running Linux 3rd Ed from O'Reilly Associates. But in the meantime, try the following: 'startx' should start your X Window session i.e. gui desktop, assuming it was configured properly during install. If not, well, you are about to have a much rougher intro to linux. If you did get a decent desktop to come up, click on an icon that looks like a computer monitor, and you will be in a terminal (like an M$-DOS window), and continue. 'cd /usr/doc/howto/' , then 'dir' or 'ls | less' and press 'Space' after you are done reading each screenfull. This is a listing of all the HOWTO files on your system. They may be archived w/ a *gz extension, so log in as root, then return to the same directory and type 'gunzip -r *', which will recursively unpack everything at and below this directory. Then type 'emacs Unix-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO' and read it _all_. If you get tired and want to quit emacs, try Control-x Control-c. Then read 'DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO', and if by now you are feeling a little more comfortable, good. Next time you fire up emacs, type 'Control-h t' for a tutorial on emacs. Granted we put the cart befor the horse here, but you didn't need to know much about emacs to get this far. Alternately, you could use emacs to read the Emacs-Beginner-HOWTO. Note that none of this requires a graphic desktop. It all works just fine w/o . If you find emacs to be too much, try 'vi /usr/doc/HOWTO/Vim-HOWTO' to try the vi editor. Enjoy, Monte Milanuk
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 -- Disk Druid Hang-Up
Disk Druid won't let me install a swap partition (of any size), for no reason that I can figure out. When I try to "Add" the swap partition, I get an error: not enough room on the partition (63 ??). I am installing the swap partitian on a 2nd hard disk (1 GIG; slave) - hdb1 - that has WIN98 on it currently. (I intend to wipe out '98.) Oddly, Disk Druid allows me to install the root partition no problem. I don't want to use the Mandrake included fdisk utility because the hard disk in question is not the master, and the install notes warns against this explicitly. Maybe the o/s managing program (phytechsoft multiple o/s manager) I have installed that is screwing up Disk Druid - but I doubt it. Any suggestions? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso...
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, you wrote: Does anyone know where I can download this off of the Internet? I have 6.1, but I want to give 6.0 a try. I am having some printer troubles with 6.1, however I have heard that these problems don't exist in Mandrake 6.0. I have been using AltaVista to search for it, but I can't locate it anywhere. Well, I did a quick look around on several of the Mandrake FTP mirrors that Mandrake lists, and was only able to find the Helios (6.1) ISO image. Good luck! John
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso...
Do you know how to make an ISO file from a Mandrake6.0 cd? If so, tell me how and I could make one to put on my FTP site for you. Seve -Original Message- From: Bill Munden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 11:38 AM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso... Does anyone know where I can download this off of the Internet? I have 6.1, but I want to give 6.0 a try. I am having some printer troubles with 6.1, however I have heard that these problems don't exist in Mandrake 6.0. I have been using AltaVista to search for it, but I can't locate it anywhere. Thanks -Bill
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso...
Sevatio Octavio wrote: Do you know how to make an ISO file from a Mandrake6.0 cd? If so, tell me how and I could make one to put on my FTP site for you. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=mandrake-6.0.iso Does anyone know where I can download this off of the Internet? I have 6.1, but I want to give 6.0 a try. I am having some printer troubles with 6.1, however I have heard that these problems don't exist in Mandrake 6.0. I have been using AltaVista to search for it, but I can't locate it anywhere. Thanks -Bill -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso...
Does anyone know how to make the ISO in a windows box? Sorry but my Linux box is a bit crippled right now. Seve -Original Message- From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso... Sevatio Octavio wrote: Do you know how to make an ISO file from a Mandrake6.0 cd? If so, tell me how and I could make one to put on my FTP site for you. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=mandrake-6.0.iso Does anyone know where I can download this off of the Internet? I have 6.1, but I want to give 6.0 a try. I am having some printer troubles with 6.1, however I have heard that these problems don't exist in Mandrake 6.0. I have been using AltaVista to search for it, but I can't locate it anywhere. Thanks -Bill -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso...
Please Disregard my last request. I figured out how to make an ISO in widows. Seve -Original Message- From: Seve Octavia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso... Does anyone know how to make the ISO in a windows box? Sorry but my Linux box is a bit crippled right now. Seve -Original Message- From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 iso... Sevatio Octavio wrote: Do you know how to make an ISO file from a Mandrake6.0 cd? If so, tell me how and I could make one to put on my FTP site for you. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=mandrake-6.0.iso Does anyone know where I can download this off of the Internet? I have 6.1, but I want to give 6.0 a try. I am having some printer troubles with 6.1, however I have heard that these problems don't exist in Mandrake 6.0. I have been using AltaVista to search for it, but I can't locate it anywhere. Thanks -Bill -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth theeffort??
Hi there, I am already missing the Xterms. Where did the console go to? What about the xterm. I haven't been able to acess the comand line driven environment. Unless I use the ones provided by Gnome. Is this a new feature in 6.1. I have been noticing a strange behaviour of the X-windows since the install of Helios. Under Venus I was able to have the X-windows all the time startx command was issued. Now it is a kind of sometimes( it works and fails every now and then) situation. Often after startx I get a black screen with a big white enlightened rectangle which moves any time I move the mouse. My video card is an SiS Pro AGP 3D with 8MB on board. I have been using programmed clock for it and it worked for the last 6 months since Mandrake 5.3 to Mandrake 6.0 with no hassles). What could be wrong? Thanks Bernardo
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??
"Rick" == Rick Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Eric L. Damron wrote: I'm running Mandrake 6.0 with all the patches. If I take the time to upgrade to 6.1 what will it give me? Rick I liked the things I've found with 6.1. It has Netscape Rick 6.1, the latest kde which will now load gnome applications, Rick xcdroast already installed. I think it is worth the Rick upgrade. Does it have xemacs 21.? ? -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??
- Original Message - From: Rick Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eric L. Damron [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort?? xcdroast already installed. I think it is that for every one, or only for scsi users? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: Rick Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eric L. Damron [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort?? xcdroast already installed. I think it is that for every one, or only for scsi users? Regards, Ian Ian, I believe it is for IDE as well. I got help from another member of our list at his web site http://www.midkan.com/paulb/mycdr.htm He tell you how to immulate a scsi drive with your IDE cd burner. so go check it out. I believe that I have linux seeing my ide burner and I've actually read the instructions that came with xcdroast today but I haven't got it working yet. Tonight I'm fiddling with real audio again and seeing if I can get the upgrade working. Rick -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," J B
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??
I'm running Mandrake 6.0 with all the patches. If I take the time to upgrade to 6.1 what will it give me?
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Eric L. Damron wrote: I'm running Mandrake 6.0 with all the patches. If I take the time to upgrade to 6.1 what will it give me? I liked the things I've found with 6.1. It has Netscape 6.1, the latest kde which will now load gnome applications, xcdroast already installed. I think it is worth the upgrade. Rick -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 - 6.1
Hi, Does anyone know of the differences between Linux Mandrake 6.0 and 6.1? I'm getting a pre release version of 6.1, and I would like to know it it's worth installing it over my present installation? -- Best Regards, Paul Hendrick http://www.btinternet.com/~engprin1/linux.htm
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, you wrote: Thanks for the feeaback. Does this mean that the HP CD-R/RW 8200i drive I have is incompatible with the Mandrake 6.0 kernel I am using to boot up? No problem. :-) That's what we're here for. :-) "Cooker" is the pre-release version of Mandrake. Think of it as the "Beta" version of the next release of Mandrake. Where do I get this version? Also, where can I get alternate custom boot kernels? www.linux-mandrake.com? Other than that, I wouldn't know where... John
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Hi there: Thanks for the suggestions. I tried to get the cooker mirror as suggested by Axalon. However, I am unable to do so because I do not have a working version of Linux-Mandrake installed. I cannot boot my machine with the provided boot kernel because I get access errors to both the secondary harddrive and the CD-R/RW drive. Is there anything else I can try? Or, should I just give up Linux-Mandrake altogether and go back to Slackware? Thanks, Gabriel ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, you wrote: There's some bad logic in the code that desides which drives to enable DMA cdroms are less tolerant than hardrives when you try and activate it and they do not support it. I am confused by this statement. I think I understand the kernel does not support the particular CD-ROM that I have and that's the reason for the errors. However, below is the output from the kernel indicating that the CD-ROM drive was recognized. It does not say the brand, but the description is right on the money (HP CD-Writer Plus 8200i, 4X/4X/24X). What he's saying is CD drives are more particular about the system trying to access them using DMA/UDMA (another way to access an "IDE" device) than hard drives when they don't support that method of accessing the drive. C: Try it with a recent mirror of Cooker I have no idea what this means. Could you please elaborate? "Cooker" is the pre-release version of Mandrake. Think of it as the "Beta" version of the next release of Mandrake.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Dear John: What he's saying is CD drives are more particular about the system trying to access them using DMA/UDMA (another way to access an "IDE" device) than hard drives when they don't support that method of accessing the drive. Thanks for the feeaback. Does this mean that the HP CD-R/RW 8200i drive I have is incompatible with the Mandrake 6.0 kernel I am using to boot up? C: Try it with a recent mirror of Cooker "Cooker" is the pre-release version of Mandrake. Think of it as the "Beta" version of the next release of Mandrake. Where do I get this version? Also, where can I get alternate custom boot kernels? Thanks, Gabriel ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Gabriel Fernández wrote: Dear John: What he's saying is CD drives are more particular about the system trying to access them using DMA/UDMA (another way to access an "IDE" device) than hard drives when they don't support that method of accessing the drive. Thanks for the feeaback. Does this mean that the HP CD-R/RW 8200i drive I have is incompatible with the Mandrake 6.0 kernel I am using to boot up? C: Try it with a recent mirror of Cooker "Cooker" is the pre-release version of Mandrake. Think of it as the "Beta" version of the next release of Mandrake. Where do I get this version? Also, where can I get alternate custom boot kernels? Thanks, Gabriel ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cooker and Um dunno
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Who cares what a coward uses. If you believe so strongly in your statements, next time sign your name. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems I had to stop using the Mandrake distribution all together, it was just too much trouble to bother with. I now use the *OFFICAL* RedHat ditribution, and I've had absolutely no problems.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Gee, Chuck thanks for sharing. Next time just wave, it's quieter and more
productive. You didn't say what you didn't like, what equipment you had
trouble w/, why it was so much trouble.
Thanks for your stunning input and insightful commentary, but next time
just wave, my inbox will silently thank you.
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I had to stop using the Mandrake distribution all together, it was just
too much trouble to bother with. I now use the *OFFICAL* RedHat
ditribution, and I've had absolutely no problems.
--
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:23:53 Gabriel Fernandez wrote:
Dear all:
I am a Slackware user, but I have heard so many good things about Read
Hat that I decided to give it a try. So far it has not been a positive
experience . . .
My machine is configured as follows:
Pentium 75MHz
64MB RAM
ide0 @ 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 @ 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 (serialized with ide0)
hda: Conner Peripherals 1275MB - CFA1275A,
1220MB w/256KB Cahce, CHS=619/64/63
hdb: Maxtor 72004 AP,
1916MB w/128KB Cache, CHS=973/64/63
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048KB Cache
Partition check:
hda: hda1, hda2, hda3
hdb: hdb1, hdb2
I have Windows 95 and Slackware Linux currently installed. The first
hard drive has a partition for Windows 95 and two partitions for Linux
(/swap and /). The second hard drive has one partition for Windows 95
(mounted under Linux) and a partition for Linux (/usr). Everything works
fine so far . . .
When I tried installing Mandrake 6.0, I was under the impression that
the
installation would take care of deleting or repartition the hard drives.
However, this is not the case.
After the installation type is selected and the kernel is loaded. I
see
a message "Running install..." and everything hangs.
When I check with ALT-F4, I can see the following error messages:
VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
hdb: lost interrupt
hdb: drive_cmd: status=0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
status error: status 0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
hdb: drive not ready for command
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1 (22,0)
hdc: drive_cmd: error=0x04
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
...
I do not understand why the hard drives are used and mounted correctly
with Windows 95 and Slackware.
Do you have any ideas?
Thanks,
Gabriel
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Don't be so offended. I just was stating the fact that from my peronal experience, I had no problems with RedHat as opposed to Mandrake. Given my current time constraints is was simply less time consuming to try a different distribution. Thus far I've no problems the "different" distribution. If you're still fussy and wanting to rant you can mail me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:58:52 Ken Wilson wrote: Who cares what a coward uses. If you believe so strongly in your statements, next time sign your name. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems I had to stop using the Mandrake distribution all together, it was just too much trouble to bother with. I now use the *OFFICAL* RedHat ditribution, and I've had absolutely no problems. --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Well, I've had the same problem with BOTH distributions of Linux. :-) My problem is it won't boot from the IDE drivebut if I boot off a floppy, everything is JUST fine! :-) Oh, well... I finally gave up and took my dual-PPro machine to the only computer store in town that I know of that knows anything besides Windows! :-) John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems Don't be so offended. I just was stating the fact that from my peronal experience, I had no problems with RedHat as opposed to Mandrake. Given my current time constraints is was simply less time consuming to try a different distribution. Thus far I've no problems the "different" distribution. If you're still fussy and wanting to rant you can mail me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:58:52 Ken Wilson wrote: Who cares what a coward uses. If you believe so strongly in your statements, next time sign your name. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems I had to stop using the Mandrake distribution all together, it was just too much trouble to bother with. I now use the *OFFICAL* RedHat ditribution, and I've had absolutely no problems. --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Dear all:
OK, I am starting to dislike this mailing list and Mandrake 6.0. I sent
a question to the list asking for help and what I get back is a flame war.
Could somebody please focus on the issue at hand and provide any type of
helpful information that will assist me in resolving my problem?
The description of the problem is below.
Thanks,
Gabriel
I am a Slackware user, but I have heard so many good things about Read
Hat that I decided to give it a try. So far it has not been a positive
experience . . .
My machine is configured as follows:
Pentium 75MHz
64MB RAM
ide0 @ 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 @ 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 (serialized with ide0)
hda: Conner Peripherals 1275MB - CFA1275A,
1220MB w/256KB Cahce, CHS=619/64/63
hdb: Maxtor 72004 AP,
1916MB w/128KB Cache, CHS=973/64/63
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048KB Cache
Partition check:
hda: hda1, hda2, hda3
hdb: hdb1, hdb2
I have Windows 95 and Slackware Linux currently installed. The first
hard drive has a partition for Windows 95 and two partitions
for Linux (/swap and /). The second hard drive has one partition for
Windows 95 (mounted under Linux) and a partition for Linux (/usr). Both
drives are under the IDE0 controller.
Under the IDE1 controller, I have a CD-R/RW drive.
Everything works fine with Windows 95 and the version of Slakware that I
have installed.
When I tried installing Mandrake 6.0, I was under the impression that
the installation would take care of deleting or repartition the
hard drives. However, this is not the case.
After the installation type is selected and the kernel is loaded. I see
a message "Running install..." and everything hangs.
When I check with ALT-F4, I can see the following error messages:
VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
hdb: lost interrupt
hdb: drive_cmd: status=0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
status error: status 0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
hdb: drive not ready for command
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1 (22,0)
hdc: drive_cmd: error=0x04
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
...
I do not understand why the hard drives are used and mounted correctly
with Windows 95 and Slackware, but with Mandrake 6.0 they are not
recognized.
Do you have any ideas?
Thanks,
Gabriel
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[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Dear all:
OK, I am starting to dislike this mailing list and Mandrake 6.0. I sent
a question to the list asking for help and what I get back is a flame war.
Could somebody please focus on the issue at hand and provide any type of
helpful information that will assist me in resolving my problem?
The description of the problem is below.
Thanks,
Gabriel
I am a Slackware user, but I have heard so many good things about Read
Hat that I decided to give it a try. So far it has not been a positive
experience . . .
My machine is configured as follows:
Pentium 75MHz
64MB RAM
ide0 @ 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 @ 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 (serialized with ide0)
hda: Conner Peripherals 1275MB - CFA1275A,
1220MB w/256KB Cahce, CHS=619/64/63
hdb: Maxtor 72004 AP,
1916MB w/128KB Cache, CHS=973/64/63
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048KB Cache
Partition check:
hda: hda1, hda2, hda3
hdb: hdb1, hdb2
I have Windows 95 and Slackware Linux currently installed. The first
hard drive has a partition for Windows 95 and two partitions
for Linux (/swap and /). The second hard drive has one partition for
Windows 95 (mounted under Linux) and a partition for Linux (/usr). Both
drives are under the IDE0 controller.
Under the IDE1 controller, I have a CD-R/RW drive.
Everything works fine with Windows 95 and the version of Slakware that I
have installed.
When I tried installing Mandrake 6.0, I was under the impression that
the installation would take care of deleting or repartition the
hard drives. However, this is not the case.
After the installation type is selected and the kernel is loaded. I see
a message "Running install..." and everything hangs.
When I check with ALT-F4, I can see the following error messages:
VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
hdb: lost interrupt
hdb: drive_cmd: status=0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
status error: status 0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
hdb: drive not ready for command
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1 (22,0)
hdc: drive_cmd: error=0x04
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
...
I do not understand why the hard drives are used and mounted correctly
with Windows 95 and Slackware, but with Mandrake 6.0 they are not
recognized.
Do you have any ideas?
Thanks,
Gabriel
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Hi there:
Sorry, I'm a busy person I'm sure you can understand.
Nothing personal. Just frustrated that my message started a list of
messages not related to my question. ;-)
I appreciate all the help that I can get.
VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
hdb: lost interrupt
hdb: drive_cmd: status=0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
status error: status 0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
hdb: drive not ready for command
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1 (22,0)
hdc: drive_cmd: error=0x04
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
...
There's some bad logic in the code that desides which drives to enable DMA
cdroms are less tolerant than hardrives when you try and activate it and
they do not support it.
I am confused by this statement. I think I understand the kernel does
not support the particular CD-ROM that I have and that's the reason for the
errors. However, below is the output from the kernel indicating that the
CD-ROM drive was recognized. It does not say the brand, but the description
is right on the money (HP CD-Writer Plus 8200i, 4X/4X/24X).
Pentium 75MHz
64MB RAM
ide0 @ 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 @ 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 (serialized with ide0)
hda: Conner Peripherals 1275MB - CFA1275A,
1220MB w/256KB Cahce, CHS=619/64/63
hdb: Maxtor 72004 AP,
1916MB w/128KB Cache, CHS=973/64/63
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048KB Cache
Partition check:
hda: hda1, hda2, hda3
hdb: hdb1, hdb2
These are your suggestions:
A: Swap the cdrom out for something "with less additude"
I do not have another CD-ROM. I actually want to use my CD-R/RW drive
under Linux. Also, I do not know what you mean by "less additude".
B: Find HD space and install it from there
If I keep the CD-R/RW unit installed, this won't make any difference. I
won't be able to finish the boot up.
C: Try it with a recent mirror of Cooker
I have no idea what this means. Could you please elaborate?
D: Ask me for custom boot disks and i'll see if i can find time
Please consider the request made. Could you be so kind to provide me
with a boot disk/image that I can use to install the software?
BTW, I just learned that there were several Mandrake "releases". I am
using the one provided by MacMillan (The Complete Linux OS 6.0).
Thanks,
Gabriel
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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Hi Sebastian: Thanks for your input. Actually, I have errors by the time the kernel is trying to mount the filesystems. The only choice I have made so far is to press ENTER to start the installation. Hence, my partitions are still intact. In fact, I can still boot the current version of Slackware Linux that I have installed. However, I am unable to go far down in the installation to actually answer any other questions. Thanks, Gabriel From: "Sebastian L C Goh"[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:57:25 -0700 I used the Mandrake-Macmillan Linux and managed to install though it is my first time. Maybe just good luck. Anyway, I probably took the wrong turn somewhere. I seems to have reinitialised my entire harddisk and now my Windows 95 partition is missing. Lucky for me this is a test machine. But I recognise that it is due to my fault in not reading the instructions properly and not following the prompts properly. Now I must learn how to recover back my Windows partition. Better luck to you with the new distribution. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Dear all:
I am a Slackware user, but I have heard so many good things about Read
Hat that I decided to give it a try. So far it has not been a positive
experience . . .
My machine is configured as follows:
Pentium 75MHz
64MB RAM
ide0 @ 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 @ 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 (serialized with ide0)
hda: Conner Peripherals 1275MB - CFA1275A,
1220MB w/256KB Cahce, CHS=619/64/63
hdb: Maxtor 72004 AP,
1916MB w/128KB Cache, CHS=973/64/63
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048KB Cache
Partition check:
hda: hda1, hda2, hda3
hdb: hdb1, hdb2
I have Windows 95 and Slackware Linux currently installed. The first
hard drive has a partition for Windows 95 and two partitions for Linux
(/swap and /). The second hard drive has one partition for Windows 95
(mounted under Linux) and a partition for Linux (/usr). Everything works
fine so far . . .
When I tried installing Mandrake 6.0, I was under the impression that the
installation would take care of deleting or repartition the hard drives.
However, this is not the case.
After the installation type is selected and the kernel is loaded. I see
a message "Running install..." and everything hangs.
When I check with ALT-F4, I can see the following error messages:
VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
hdb: lost interrupt
hdb: drive_cmd: status=0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
status error: status 0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
hdb: drive not ready for command
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1 (22,0)
hdc: drive_cmd: error=0x04
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
hdc: lost interrupt:
hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x1)
...
I do not understand why the hard drives are used and mounted correctly
with Windows 95 and Slackware.
Do you have any ideas?
Thanks,
Gabriel
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 book
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Joseph Gardner wrote: I just latched on to a series from IDG books. Titles include "Linux Configuration Installation", "Linux Network" , "Linux System Administration" "Linux Internet Server". They are well written, very informative, don't assume too much and come with Slackware, while there may be some differences between Mandrake and Slackware I have found the general background to be excellent. Having just moved from Slackware to Mandrake I can assure you that the differences are considerable! I would steer well clear of Slackware-centric books, and aim for a Redhat-centric one. I'm afraid I can't be more specific. -- Richard Lamont [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonix.demon.co.uk/
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 book
Is there THAT much difference between the 2 that the general information given should be questioned ? Regards, Joseph Gardner -Original Message- From: Richard Lamont [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 book On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Joseph Gardner wrote: I just latched on to a series from IDG books. Titles include "Linux Configuration Installation", "Linux Network" , "Linux System Administration" "Linux Internet Server". They are well written, very informative, don't assume too much and come with Slackware, while there may be some differences between Mandrake and Slackware I have found the general background to be excellent. Having just moved from Slackware to Mandrake I can assure you that the differences are considerable! I would steer well clear of Slackware-centric books, and aim for a Redhat-centric one. I'm afraid I can't be more specific. -- Richard Lamont [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonix.demon.co.uk/ application/ms-tnef
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 book
Hi all, Wondering what is the best Linux book to use as a guide for Mandrake 6.0? Is there one out yet? Doug
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 book
I just latched on to a series from IDG books. Titles include "Linux Configuration Installation", "Linux Network" , "Linux System Administration" "Linux Internet Server". They are well written, very informative, don't assume too much and come with Slackware, while there may be some differences between Mandrake and Slackware I have found the general background to be excellent. I found mine at Micro Center but I'm sure they're avail on the "net". Try www.idgbooks.com Regards, Joseph Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Company -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 book Hi all, Wondering what is the best Linux book to use as a guide for Mandrake 6.0? Is there one out yet? Doug application/ms-tnef
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
well my problem is even bigger... I have no idea why but my Mandrake 6.0 hangs after 6 Mb copied... why? may be my CD-ROM drive, because I can install Mandrake with another CDROM but the weird thing is that I put my CD Drive in another machine and it works!!! so? what the deal? Tribs - Original Message - From: Colin Eddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs Actually I've tried both the Mandrake and RedHat 6.0 installs and they do the exact same thing and hang in the same place. Plus I wouldn't think that pentium optimizations would cause a hang on the install before anything really happens. What kind of a processor _do_ you have? If you don't have a Pentium, what is it supposed to do when it received an unrecognized opcode? Some processors just stop working. Others call some bad-opcode-handler interrupt. Even if your processor calls an exception interrupt, the setup may not have made it do anything besides hang the computer. I am using a 486DX2/66 for this. I have read all the Mandrake and RedHat documentation/hardware compatibility lists and they both say that anything Intel above a i386 are fully supported. Although on another list, Mandrake says all Intel and compatibles, but they only specifically list Pentiums and above. Both distributions apparently now give you the option during the install process to choose the type of prebuilt kernel you want to install. At this point I could see how if I chose a pentium kernel instead of a 486 one I would have a problem. Since I don't even begin the install before it hangs, this should not be the problem. The kernel running from the boot disk should be a completely backwards compatible 386 kernel or else they should not/could not claim to support the older processors like they do in their documentation. As far as other hardware related issues, since I'm already running RedHat 5.0 with absolutely no problems, the only issue would be if the newer distributions decided to no longer work with my hardware which I haven't read anything about anywhere. All my relevant hardware seems to be on the lists anyway. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
You SHOULD be able to install from a RedHat 6.0 CD, as that is still (AFAIK) compiled with 386+ in mind, not Pentium+ in mind. Mandrake, on the other hand, is (currently) designed for Pentium+ with the default kernels. John - Original Message - From: Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs try ftp.linux-mandrake.com Uh... sorry. This computer (which I do not have constant access to) has a slow modem, and my PC doesn't have a modem at all. Downloading the whole thing is out of the question. Compiling the whole thing should take way too long as well. It takes DJGPP at least a minute to make a single simple object file! Linux-Mandrake is a pretty complicated beast! I hope I can get a better computer someday soon. It's pretty hard knowing that I cannot buy any new software since it's all designed for better processors than I have. Money trouble... urgh. Maybe I'll just stick to Red Hat 5.0.
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
Check out LinuxMall they should sell the GPL versions of the Older Linux OS's.. James J. Capone Webmaster http://linuxuser.8m.com Webmaster http://teammajestic.8m.com Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co Author Linux For Newbies "Even Common People Can Attain Uncommon Results" -Original Message- From: Andy Goth [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 2:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs File: ATT4.txt; charset = x-user-defined
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
Colin - You'll probably get quite a few replies, but in any case, the Mandrake 6.0 linux is one of those that is compiled to run on a Pentium chip. You won't get it working correctly on a 486. The earlier Mandrake 5.3 however, should work correctly. I've loaded it on a 486dx2/66, and had it up and running without problems. Bill -Original Message- From: Colin Eddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs Actually I've tried both the Mandrake and RedHat 6.0 installs and they do the exact same thing and hang in the same place. Plus I wouldn't think that pentium optimizations would cause a hang on the install before anything really happens. What kind of a processor _do_ you have? If you don't have a Pentium, what is it supposed to do when it received an unrecognized opcode? Some processors just stop working. Others call some bad-opcode-handler interrupt. Even if your processor calls an exception interrupt, the setup may not have made it do anything besides hang the computer. I am using a 486DX2/66 for this. I have read all the Mandrake and RedHat documentation/hardware compatibility lists and they both say that anything Intel above a i386 are fully supported. Although on another list, Mandrake says all Intel and compatibles, but they only specifically list Pentiums and above. Both distributions apparently now give you the option during the install process to choose the type of prebuilt kernel you want to install. At this point I could see how if I chose a pentium kernel instead of a 486 one I would have a problem. Since I don't even begin the install before it hangs, this should not be the problem. The kernel running from the boot disk should be a completely backwards compatible 386 kernel or else they should not/could not claim to support the older processors like they do in their documentation. As far as other hardware related issues, since I'm already running RedHat 5.0 with absolutely no problems, the only issue would be if the newer distributions decided to no longer work with my hardware which I haven't read anything about anywhere. All my relevant hardware seems to be on the lists anyway. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
try ftp.linux-madrake.com Andy Goth wrote: Actually I've tried both the Mandrake and RedHat 6.0 installs and they do the exact same thing and hang in the same place. Plus I wouldn't think that pentium optimizations would cause a hang on the install before anything really happens. If they both hang in the same place, that points to a different issue. Possibly an incompatibility with something in your PC. Pentium optimizations also imply Pentium opcodes which don't exist on the 486. Any program compiled with a Pentium specific compiler could fail. I don't know which items in Mandrake are compiled specifically for Pentium, but I suspect probably all of them are. That would seem to be the easiest way, as it should only affect the make file. While on the subject, how can I (or anyone else) obtain a version of Mandrake-Linux that's compiled for a 486 (or some other processor)?
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
On 02-Aug-99 Colin Eddy wrote: I am using a 486DX2/66 for this. I have read all the Mandrake and RedHat documentation/hardware compatibility lists and they both say that anything Intel above a i386 are fully supported. Although on another list, Mandrake says all Intel and compatibles, but they only specifically list Pentiums and above. Both distributions apparently now give you the option during the install process to choose the type of prebuilt kernel you want to install. At this point I could see how if I chose a pentium kernel instead of a 486 one I would have a problem. Since I don't even begin the install before it hangs, this should not be the problem. The kernel running from the boot disk should be a completely backwards compatible 386 kernel or else they should not/could not claim to support the older processors like they do in their documentation. If you read that Mandrake works on anything below a Pentium-class CPU, then it either wasn't for M6 or it needs to be updated. ALL (or at least most--I don't know if they compiled Netscape's source code themselves) the Mandrake packages are compiled with Pentium optimizations, so there wouldn't really be any point in having a kernel compiled for 386, for Mandrake. I have no idea why RedHat would give you problems. Maybe there is something about the newer RedHat/Mandrake installation disks that causes problems with your hardware. If you're making the boot disks yourself from images, are you using rawrite in DOS, or dd from an already set up Linux installation? dd seems more reliable than rawrite. If you don't have an existing Linux installation, you can make a root/boot disk (there's one on M6 CD and should be one on RH6 CD too I think), boot from it, and then use dd to make an installation boot disk. If THAT doesn't work I'd try starting the installation with a boot disk from an older version of RedHat. And if that doesn't work, I'd try either Mandrake 5.3, Redhat 5.2 (if you can still get them) or another distro.. As far as other hardware related issues, since I'm already running RedHat 5.0 with absolutely no problems, the only issue would be if the newer distributions decided to no longer work with my hardware which I haven't read anything about anywhere. All my relevant hardware seems to be on the lists anyway. There could be subtle corruptions with your hardware that show up under certain conditions but not under others. (And it seems a lot of people have had that kind of trouble with Mandrake in particular.) -Tom
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
try ftp.linux-mandrake.com Uh... sorry. This computer (which I do not have constant access to) has a slow modem, and my PC doesn't have a modem at all. Downloading the whole thing is out of the question. Compiling the whole thing should take way too long as well. It takes DJGPP at least a minute to make a single simple object file! Linux-Mandrake is a pretty complicated beast! I hope I can get a better computer someday soon. It's pretty hard knowing that I cannot buy any new software since it's all designed for better processors than I have. Money trouble... urgh. Maybe I'll just stick to Red Hat 5.0.
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
I currently am running RedHat 5.0 on my old 486 and would like to install either Mandrake 6.0. Unfortunately no matter what I've tried, the install continually hangs in the same places (depending on the method). I have tried both and FTP and HD install. I made disks of both the boot and bootnet images(HD and FTP installs) and tried installing. I get all the way through the TCP/IP setup or the SCSI setup and it starts to load the first things. It gets the base/stage2.img just fine and does the download of the second stage ramdisk (watch the lights on the ethernet card flash and stop or HD light), but then it just hangs on this window and won't continue. I've also done this with both the regular and updated disk images. Is there a reason why a machine that could run RedHat 5.0 can't run Mandrake 6.0? If this is the problem why would it be hanging in this place? I don't even get to the point where it wants to know if it's a full install or update. It seems like I'm having some sort of transitioning difficulties. If anyone has run into this problem or has ideas on how to get this worked out, I'd really appreciate it. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
It's my understanding that Mandrake is built with Pentium optimizations in place. You may wish to try Red Hat 6.0 instead. - Original Message - From: Colin Eddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 7:01 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs Is there a reason why a machine that could run RedHat 5.0 can't run Mandrake 6.0?
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
On 02-Aug-99 Colin Eddy wrote: I currently am running RedHat 5.0 on my old 486 and would like to install either Mandrake 6.0. Unfortunately no matter what I've tried, the install continually hangs in the same places (depending on the method). I have tried both and FTP and HD install. The packages in Mandrake are compiled with Pentium-specific optimizations, and probably don't run on a 486. You might be better off with RedHat 6.0, or a version of M6 compiled for 386/486, if there's one available.. -Tom
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
Actually I've tried both the Mandrake and RedHat 6.0 installs and they do the exact same thing and hang in the same place. Plus I wouldn't think that pentium optimizations would cause a hang on the install before anything really happens. From: "William Meyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:23:08 -0700 It's my understanding that Mandrake is built with Pentium optimizations in place. You may wish to try Red Hat 6.0 instead. - Original Message - From: Colin Eddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 7:01 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs Is there a reason why a machine that could run RedHat 5.0 can't run Mandrake 6.0? ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
Actually I've tried both the Mandrake and RedHat 6.0 installs and they do the exact same thing and hang in the same place. Plus I wouldn't think that pentium optimizations would cause a hang on the install before anything really happens. What kind of a processor _do_ you have? If you don't have a Pentium, what is it supposed to do when it received an unrecognized opcode? Some processors just stop working. Others call some bad-opcode-handler interrupt. Even if your processor calls an exception interrupt, the setup may not have made it do anything besides hang the computer.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
Actually I've tried both the Mandrake and RedHat 6.0 installs and they do the exact same thing and hang in the same place. Plus I wouldn't think that pentium optimizations would cause a hang on the install before anything really happens. If they both hang in the same place, that points to a different issue. Possibly an incompatibility with something in your PC. Pentium optimizations also imply Pentium opcodes which don't exist on the 486. Any program compiled with a Pentium specific compiler could fail. I don't know which items in Mandrake are compiled specifically for Pentium, but I suspect probably all of them are. That would seem to be the easiest way, as it should only affect the make file.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install continually hangs
Actually I've tried both the Mandrake and RedHat 6.0 installs and they do the exact same thing and hang in the same place. Plus I wouldn't think that pentium optimizations would cause a hang on the install before anything really happens. If they both hang in the same place, that points to a different issue. Possibly an incompatibility with something in your PC. Pentium optimizations also imply Pentium opcodes which don't exist on the 486. Any program compiled with a Pentium specific compiler could fail. I don't know which items in Mandrake are compiled specifically for Pentium, but I suspect probably all of them are. That would seem to be the easiest way, as it should only affect the make file. While on the subject, how can I (or anyone else) obtain a version of Mandrake-Linux that's compiled for a 486 (or some other processor)?
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 install on ASUS P5A ALi chipset
Hello everyone I'm new to Mandrake but I've been a LiNUX user since '96. I need help getting Mandrake 6.0 installed, I keep getting an abnormal termination message at various times through the install process. I'm doing an FTP install from my main server that has the ISO image mounted in /home/ftp/pub/mandrake. Stat's: AMD K6-2/300 64MB PC-100 RAM 2.1 gig Western Digital IDE SB PNP 32 ALi chipset M1541 A1 ATI All-In-Wonder PCI LinkSys ethernet card Thanks, Seth
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 - kppp Problem
Hi, At Mon, 21 Jun 1999 you wrote: Hi there! Since having changed from SUSE to Mandrake, I cannot get a Kppp connection. Dialing is ok, but connecting to the net doesn´t work. After some time, kppp stops. Have tried everything. I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. I think the problem is a bug in your version of kppp. I sloved my problem by installing kppp from KDE 1.1 and pppd 2.3.5 from RedHat 5.2. If you not want to do this you can try it with a new version of kppp. Hope that helps. Bye, Andi
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 - kppp Problem
Hi Andi! Did you forget - I´m a newbie!!! ;-))) Where can I get this newer version of kppp, how do I install it and what relationship does it have with KDE 1.1 regards Hans
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 - LILO problems
After upgrading from Mandrake 5.3 to 6.0 LILO fails to update. I'm getting the following error message when I run lilo; VGA mode presetting is not supported by your kernel" This results in that I'm not able to update my kernel after compiling... Terje
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 upgrade woes, continued
David, yes, I selected 'check for bad blocks during format'. Except for items 1 2 mentioned in post of 5/31 6:28PM, I always checked for bad blocks. Martin, unfortunately, memory is the one thing that I cannot check at this time. I have to base my assumptions on the fact that the memory seems good with everything else that I throw at it, just not L-M 6.0. Ben, CD is an older atapi-compliant 6x Creative, again works just fine except with L-M 6.0. I really appreciate all of the suggestions that I am receiving. I am not dismissing anything at this point, it's just that I am unable to test/replace some of the components (!$). I noted that Bernhard posted that there was a newer version of the ISO available, but I have been unable to locate any other than the 990527 version on the dozen or so FTP sites that I've checked. As a recap to those who might have forgotten: I have installed and/or upgraded with the same components - RH 5.1, RH 5.2, L-M 5.3, RH (rawhide) 5.9, and RH 6.0. I have even compiled a couple of kernels. I won't argue the possibility (probability??) that the failures are hardware related (note the frequent -but not always- sig 11), but I cannot shake the feeling that the catalyst is software related. Again, thanks, Greg - Original Message - From: David Peerless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 upgrade woes, continued 3. Tried again, this time selected 'check for bad blocks during format'. Format went well, package install started, made it to about 20%, then "install exited abnormally - received signal 11 sending termination signals...etc., etc." Did you select 'check for bad blocks during format' for all partitions or just the swap partition? I had the same problem way back on 5.0 until I selected the 'check for bad blocks during format' on all my partitions...Then everything went fine after that.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 upgrade woes, continued
Putteman Patrick wrote: your partitionning seems a bit strange to me. Try this: make 4 partitions: / 1000M /usr 100M swap 1000M /var 350 1 gig of Swap?! Isn't that a bit excessive? /usr 1000M swap 100M sounds better IMHO... don't realy see why you have a /usr and an /usr/local partition It could just be that setup is messed up by your partitioning, and that the error message is less than 'explaining' I dunno...it sure sounds awfully weird to me. Have you tried installing "minimal" stuff? Like just X and printing or something? snip Continued from previous message... Downloaded a new ISO image from another FTP site (different from first), burned another CD. Booted from new CD, removed all partitions, created new partitions (200M swap, 800M /, 1000M /usr, 350M /var, 200M /usr/local - don't ask why I chose these, I'm posting to the newbie group for a reason :) ), formatted all new partitions, selected packages (all except for console and X games, IPX/Netware, and extra documentation), began install. First try: quit at about 85% finished package installation with "install exited abnormally - received signal 11 sending termination signals...etc., etc." The fact that you got through some but not all...wait, did you say you got it all installed once except X did not run? Meaning you got 100% through? If so...this sounds like flaky hardware (RAM usually) than anything else...I know you said it worked flawlessly for years but... Also intermittent problems can sometimes come from loose connections...like the ide cables not inserted 100% in or something...or the RAM not inserted "just so"...(Don't laugh, stuff like this has happened to me so many times...! :-/) -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster --
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 upgrade woes, continued
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Greg Gray wrote: Downloaded a new ISO image from another FTP site (different from first), burned another CD. Booted from new CD, removed all partitions, created new partitions (200M swap, 800M /, 1000M /usr, 350M /var, 200M /usr/local - don't ask why I chose these, I'm posting to the newbie group for a reason :) ), If you don't know what you're doing, it's probably best to have only 2 partitions, swap and /. That way, you won't run across "damn, I can't install the program where it belongs because the partition is full, I'll move it to /usr2 instead..." problems like I did with my very first install years ago. First try: quit at about 85% finished package installation with "install exited abnormally - received signal 11 sending termination signals...etc., etc." This could very well be a hardware problem (we're not getting signal 11's here...) - did you overclock your CPU? Did you turn off caches in BIOS? Are you sure all your RAM is working correctly? LLaP bero
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 pgrade woes
I am having extreme difficulties installing/upgrading to Mandrake 6.0. My system is a Pentium 133 w/ 48 Meg RAM, 1.2 1.6 HDD, S3 Virge DXw/ 4 Meg, no Modem, 2 NICs (1 for cable modem, 1 for internal net), dedicated to Linux. I successfully installed RH 5.1, then new install of RH 5.2, then new install of L-M 5.3, then upgrade to RH (raw hide) 5.9, then upgrade to RH 6.0. My attempts to upgrade to L-M 6.0 met with abject failure! I could not complete an upgrade past the mouse configuration. OK, says I, No Problem!. I'll just reformat and re-install. Turns out I was half right - I could format, but not install. Numerous install attempts ended with 1) failure on mouse configuration, 2) failure on network configuration, and 3) about a dozen "install exited abnormally - received signal 11 sending termination signals...etc., etc." which occurred at various points in the install from copying files to configuration menus. All upgrade/install attempts came from any of four CDs I burned from a d/l'd ISO image (I have four because I pass them out to friends not blessed with a cable modem and a burner). As I write this plea, I am d/ling another ISO in hopes that my first was somehow corrupted. If anyone has any information or ideas, I would REALLY like to hear them. Thanks, Greg
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 upgrade woes, continued
Continued from previous message... Downloaded a new ISO image from another FTP site (different from first), burned another CD. Booted from new CD, removed all partitions, created new partitions (200M swap, 800M /, 1000M /usr, 350M /var, 200M /usr/local - don't ask why I chose these, I'm posting to the newbie group for a reason :) ), formatted all new partitions, selected packages (all except for console and X games, IPX/Netware, and extra documentation), began install. First try: quit at about 85% finished package installation with "install exited abnormally - received signal 11 sending termination signals...etc., etc." Second try: re-booted, did not re-format - made it all the way through package install BUT, received a brief error just before menu appeared "sh: shared libraries...". I can't get into the log to read the total message. The menu that appeared gave me: error occurred during step "Configure mouse". Selecting retry does nothing. Selecting menu|Configure mouse does nothing. Selecting menu|Configure network allows me to complete the entries, but errors out with "cannot create network device file: no such file or directory". Selecting menu|services or timezone does nothing. Selecting menu|Configure allows me to set up a printer (remote SMB/WinNT). Configure X, Install bootloader, Configure Authentication does nothing. I cannot Exit install. Adding unprivileged user yields "install exited abnormally - received signal 11 sending termination signals...etc., etc." I read the Sig11-FAQ, but when compared with what I see, I don't find an answer. I neglected to say in my first post that when I began installing yesterday (has it only been two days??) I tried a number of times, and finally got an almost complete install - only X wouldn't work - and I foolishly decided to re-install again. This box has been performing flawlessly for over two years now, with the last 6 months on Linux. I apologize for the excessively long post, but felt that more information was better than less in my quest for a solution. Thanks, Greg
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0 kernel upgrade problems
Hi all, Umm, I just installed Venus (previously had RH6), and its pretty smooth, except I found a really lame thing was sadly carried over from RH6. Normally, when I upgrade the kernel, I tend to do it like i'm on a slackware box (where I learned linux =), so I simply tell lilo.conf to point to /vmlinuz for the kernel, which RH42 - 5.2 (including all version of Mandrake up to 5.3 of course) this works w/o a hitch. RH6 did something where it would load /vmlinuz, but keep looking for the modules (and perhaps other related stuff) in the default directory (ie /lib/modules/2.2.9-19mdk). This causes a ton of stuff to break. In RH6 this was worked around with linuxconf, by telling it you compiled a new kernel, it did some stuff and it worked. I don't know why this came to pass, but it wasnt serious. Here is the meat of the problem, this didn't work with Mandrake, the linuxconf thing, so somewhere its pointing to 2.2.9-19mdk for modules, and I have no idea where. Anyone? Thanks, SalsaDoom
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 and Lothar
Jeanette Russo wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have confidence that Mandrake 6.0 will be better because of the Lothar project and also the fact that they integrate KDE better in my opinion : ), just my opinion Ok that sounds good can't wait! Hey whats Lothar? Jeanette Lothar is something like a "Hardware Manager" for Linux. To learn more, visit: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/lothar/ It does look very cool. Can't wait to see it in action! Looks like our hardware setup hassles just might be over...maybe? ;-) -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster --
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 and Lothar
Kuraiken wrote: Jeanette Russo wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have confidence that Mandrake 6.0 will be better because of the Lothar project and also the fact that they integrate KDE better in my opinion : ), just my opinion Ok that sounds good can't wait! Hey whats Lothar? Jeanette Lothar is something like a "Hardware Manager" for Linux. To learn more, visit: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/lothar/ It does look very cool. Can't wait to see it in action! Looks like our hardware setup hassles just might be over...maybe? ;-) -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Lothar looks great just what I need! Now is that in Mandrake 6.0? Jeanette
[newbie] Mandrake 6.0
Sorry if I am repeating anything that's been asked before, but I've been without e-mail for a few days. Anyway my question is this. When is Mandrake 6.0 coming out, and will there be an ISO9660 image available when it does? I appreciate any information anybody can give me in regards to this question.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0? Me too
Yes, yes, I want to know. I want it!! Steve W --- Craig Burlingame [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if I am repeating anything that's been asked before, but I've been without e-mail for a few days. Anyway my question is this. When is Mandrake 6.0 coming out, and will there be an ISO9660 image available when it does? I appreciate any information anybody can give me in regards to this question. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0? Me too
Yes, yes, I want to know. I want it!! Steve W --- Craig Burlingame [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if I am repeating anything that's been asked before, but I've been without e-mail for a few days. Anyway my question is this. When is Mandrake 6.0 coming out, and will there be an ISO9660 image available when it does? I appreciate any information anybody can give me in regards to this question. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
What changes are they going to be? will it just be a kernel update? is it something that is easy to update? (NEWBIE) - Original Message - From: Ripcrd6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Probably mid to late May. May be longer if they are making serious headway on Lothar. Rip -Original Message- From: Craig Burlingame [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 7:17 AM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Sorry if I am repeating anything that's been asked before, but I've been without e-mail for a few days. Anyway my question is this. When is Mandrake 6.0 coming out, and will there be an ISO9660 image available when it does? I appreciate any information anybody can give me in regards to this question.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
Ripcrd6 translated his thoughts to electrons:
They are going to stay with KDE I would bet. On second thought, Lothar
won't be ready even for day-time much less prime time by the end of the
month. I looked at the pages again today and they are on ver. 0.3 or
something. Oh well. Definitely look for stuff from BeroLinux to be
integrated such as Trutype font support.
Rip
YES!!! YES!!! Im in ecstasy!!! ("estoy extático", para los que ahora sólo
hablan Español, jeje)
Working in a magazine, Truetype fonts are a necesity ("las fuentes Trutype son
necesarias")
Ripcrd6 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:
Probably mid to late May. May be longer if they are making serious
headway on Lothar.
Do you believe its worth waiting? ("¿vale la pena esperar?")
I still havent got my Mandrake Festen copy ("aún no compro my copia de Mandrake
Festen")
... Im just learning Linux with the Redhat 5.1 included in the book I bought
last week.
("estoy aprendiendo Linux con el Redhat 5.1 que venía con el libro que compré)
I would be happy if MandrakeSoft waited until GNOME 1.1 was released.
GNOME
1.0 behaves like buggy beta software.
snip
It makes me appreciate the excellent job that MandrakeSoft did integrating
Red Hat 5.2 and KDE 1.1!
Yep... thats true... I WANT MY MANDRAKE (and my Lothar too!)
("Efectivamente... QUIERO MI MANDRAKE --y también mi Lotario")
Jose Alberto Abreu
Magazine Editor and Native Mexican
"¡Viva Linux!"
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
I would like to try GNOME but can't imagine it to be better than KDE with Mandrake Jeanette - Original Message - From: Birchall, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Ripcrd6 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said: Probably mid to late May. May be longer if they are making serious headway on Lothar. I would be happy if MandrakeSoft waited until GNOME 1.1 was released. GNOME 1.0 behaves like buggy beta software. I've tried the default environment of Red Hat 6.0, GNOME/Enlightenment; it is nothing that I'd wish on us newbies. It makes me appreciate the excellent job that MandrakeSoft did integrating Red Hat 5.2 and KDE 1.1! Regards, Richard
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
Thanks for the info...did you use the official release? Gracias por la info ...Usastes la version oficial?
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0
I just hope that Mandrake 6.0 is not $79.99 Solamente espero que Mandrake 6.0 no sea $79.99
