Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 05:29, rikona wrote: I just burned a few non-crucial photos to CD using k3b, to give to someone else. I did a quick drag and drop, and a slightly different sets of options seemed to come up, and in this window was an option to do a binary compare. I selected it and it did a verify/compare. I'm not sure what was different in my first test of k3b, when it did not seem to give me that option, but it DOES look like it will do a verify. Whew! Makes us paranoid folks feel lots better. A happy camper again Hi, Rikona. I tend to use k3b for somethings and XCDRoast for others. I find it easier, for instance, to backup /home/anne excluding certain things in XCDRoast, which is why I've mainly used it for backup. I couldn't see an easy way to do that in k3b. Looking at it again, though, it just does things a different way i.e. add a whole directory, expand it, then Remove the bits you don't want. Maybe it's time to move to k3b for all the work. Thanks for passing this on. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 02:35, SnapafunFrank wrote: rikona wrote: Hello SnapafunFrank, Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote: S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and S they then worked. Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have good data? To be honest - no ~ but the files themselves never opened no matter what I tried, even though the full directory structures were in place and I was able to move down through them to the files. Note: the files themselves did show the correct file sizes when listed within konqueror using list the detail mode. and with the # ls -al command from konsole. You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this. Check the permissions of the files. If necessary try to open them as root. If you can't even do that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpocnwHv9FSC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 02:35, SnapafunFrank wrote: rikona wrote: Hello SnapafunFrank, Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote: S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and S they then worked. Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have good data? To be honest - no ~ but the files themselves never opened no matter what I tried, even though the full directory structures were in place and I was able to move down through them to the files. Note: the files themselves did show the correct file sizes when listed within konqueror using list the detail mode. and with the # ls -al command from konsole. You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this. Check the permissions of the files. If necessary try to open them as root. If you can't even do that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought. Anne Thanks Anne but the above response says that I tossed the dvds I didn't trust. And like you have started to from now on, I'm checking the dvds before I consider them available for later recall. AS to permissions, it seems that regardless of what I set or who I am when burning, the owner always comes back as root:root so I have to dig further to correct that one, though I know I set it within xcdroast initially. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 02:35, SnapafunFrank wrote: rikona wrote: Hello SnapafunFrank, Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote: S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and S they then worked. Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have good data? To be honest - no ~ but the files themselves never opened no matter what I tried, even though the full directory structures were in place and I was able to move down through them to the files. Note: the files themselves did show the correct file sizes when listed within konqueror using list the detail mode. and with the # ls -al command from konsole. You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this. Check the permissions of the files. If necessary try to open them as root. If you can't even do that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought. Anne I think we have a bit of cross communication here. It is not the bad DVDs that you need to check, but the ones you think are good. Make sure the backups are working correctly. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Hello Mikkel, Sunday, March 13, 2005, 8:39:00 AM, Mikkel wrote: You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this. Check the permissions of the files. If necessary try to open them as root. If you can't even do that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought. MLE I think we have a bit of cross communication here. It is not the MLE bad DVDs that you need to check, but the ones you think are good. MLE Make sure the backups are working correctly. Agree totally! BUT - from the recent messages, it appears that there is NO WAY to verify a just-burned CD/DVD to make sure the data is the same and can be read OK. Still looking.. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
rikona wrote: Hello Mikkel, Sunday, March 13, 2005, 8:39:00 AM, Mikkel wrote: You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this. Check the permissions of the files. If necessary try to open them as root. If you can't even do that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought. MLE I think we have a bit of cross communication here. It is not the MLE bad DVDs that you need to check, but the ones you think are good. MLE Make sure the backups are working correctly. Agree totally! BUT - from the recent messages, it appears that there is NO WAY to verify a just-burned CD/DVD to make sure the data is the same and can be read OK. Still looking.. It depends on how you built the backup. If you used tat to backup the files, before burning them, then the -d option of tar will let you compair the files in the archive to the origionals. For a quick, cheap, and dirty check of the files, I find something like for i in /mnt/dvd/* ; do echo Reading $i ; cat $i /dev/null ; done works well. It will tell you if the files are readable. It will not tell you if the files match the origional ones. It also doesn't follow directories. Do not forget the quotes around $i in the cat command, or you will get errors if you have any file names with spaces in them. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Hello Anne, Thursday, March 10, 2005, 8:33:17 AM, Anne wrote: AW On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 14:39, rikona wrote: Hello Anne, Thursday, March 10, 2005, 3:56:25 AM, Anne wrote: AW Now I'll go back and burn it again, and I'll verify this time. How do you do a verify? AW In XCDRoast I couldn't find how to verify except when you are AW burning an image, so I settled for moving the disk to another AW drive and checking random files on it before filing it away. I'll AW have to take a look at k3b and see if that handles it better. I just burned a few non-crucial photos to CD using k3b, to give to someone else. I did a quick drag and drop, and a slightly different sets of options seemed to come up, and in this window was an option to do a binary compare. I selected it and it did a verify/compare. I'm not sure what was different in my first test of k3b, when it did not seem to give me that option, but it DOES look like it will do a verify. Whew! Makes us paranoid folks feel lots better. A happy camper again -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Hello Mikkel, Sunday, March 13, 2005, 1:31:52 PM, Mikkel wrote: Agree totally! BUT - from the recent messages, it appears that there is NO WAY to verify a just-burned CD/DVD to make sure the data is the same and can be read OK. Still looking.. MLE It depends on how you built the backup. It seems I was mistaken about k3b - it DOES do a binary verify of data. I recently put in a DVD burner in one box, and fired up k3b to test it out. In this first test of both, it did not seem to have a verify option, and so I started asking about ways to verify, perhaps using other software. I just ran a small copy of a few photos to CD using k3b, and in this case I did get an option to verify, which it did. Seems much more reasonable that it would. Don't know what happened the first time. Perhaps people were being nice to me by not pointing out that k3b really does verify, thus showing how dumb my first conclusion and statement really was. :-) Thanks. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: SnapafunFrank wrote: Back again. Everything seemed to burn OK and I can see the whole file structure when I mount the dvd disc. However, I am unable to open any files. They are listed OK, but as user or root I cannot open them. I get the error message re: An error occurred while loading file:/mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html: Could not read file /mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html It was the Could not read... bit that had me open konqueror from konsole as root, but the same result. Any ideas anyone ? It sounds like the directory structure is there, but not the data it points to. I don't know much about DVD writers, but I have run into this when burning CDs. Sometimes I can get around it by burning at a slower speed, but sometimes the only fix is to use a different brand of blank media. It shouldn't make a difference, but some drives like one brand of media better then another. And it may be the generic media that burns well, and the more expensive brand name media that fails. I end up keeping a couple different brands of blank media here, because the burners I use don't agree on what media they like best. Mikkel Right : A bit of an update. First, I agree with Mikkel's statement about disc brand. Some are to cheap and nasty to rely upon. I switched brands and now have no problems filling up a dvd with xcdroast. I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and they then worked. However, I'm reluctant to trust them now with backups as I am not convinced that they will last. So. spend the buck and your burn won't suck ? [ Sorry - could not resist.] I have looked for a DVD backup howto and have not found anything suitable. Could someone here point me in the right direction to find a direct way of backing up the current operating system only, and burning it directly to dvd ? Traps I have discovered so far involve tar'ing things ( though this is OK I prefer not to tar things at present but look at splitting between dvds ) but when I : #tar -cvzf /backup.tar.gz / the whole / partition AND all the mount points get backed up and this includes my slave drive, windows partition and another Mandrake installation from the past ~ some 60gigs worth. Something I'm not keen to do or try at this point. I simply want to back up the current system with a view of formating and installing Mandrake10.1 onto a clean system. The dvd then could be used as a reference media . And yes, I am interested in the tar way for normal system backups going directly to dvd for later use. Also, selective or updated backup methods that involve simply updating the backup'ed files onto a dvd-rw. ( The - is intended here as this Sony 4.7GB DVD-RW is one that works for me faultlessly using xcdroast. ) Er enough for now me thinks. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Hello SnapafunFrank, Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote: S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and S they then worked. Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have good data? -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
rikona wrote: Hello SnapafunFrank, Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote: S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and S they then worked. Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have good data? To be honest - no ~ but the files themselves never opened no matter what I tried, even though the full directory structures were in place and I was able to move down through them to the files. Note: the files themselves did show the correct file sizes when listed within konqueror using list the detail mode. and with the # ls -al command from konsole. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
SnapafunFrank wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 08 Mar 2005 10:42, SnapafunFrank wrote: On Friday 04 Mar 2005 09:54, SnapafunFrank wrote: Just a possibility I've found while vivisimo~ing ( another other than google ), Apparently, I need to turn off all the goodies I got running on my system - that is, supermount, hotplug and the like. Frank, I've been away, so I don't know if you've got this sorted yet. I can say, though, that I have turned off nothing at all on my system and am getting a correct burn from k3b. Anne Thanks for taking a look Anne. Not sorted yet, though I have tried. XCDRoast gets about 3-4% into a burn then stops ~ another dvd_coaster anyone. Whereas k3b does the prep work and without burning anything, it to stops ~ yet another dvd_coaster. It seems that something is not configured properly on my system so any clues as where to start looking are most welcome. In fact, if anyone finds a good howto burn tutorial for mdk10 that includes troubleshooting, I would be most grateful. The only things I can think of right now are to check your set-up for things like - Have you got the latest dvd-tools package for cdrecord? Have you run XCDRoast's setup as root so that it knows about your hardware? XCDRoast, on my system, defaults to CD size burns and I have to select 4.7GB from the drop-down box on the burn page. I don't remember where to check similar settings on k3b, but I'm sure they will be there. Not much help, but it might spark something off for you. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCLYugkFAvMr/nNX8RAh8GAJ0RKTa6Csaaf7S0BMRdsToTuZtAWgCfXgCf xwoPFGUSzI82QZqLfzkoKAQ= =nPa2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks Anne Sorted it with xcdroast ~ one needs to download proDVD and place it as directed to allow xcdroast to burn more than 1gig. Working like a charm now and have got my first 4gig DVD done. Will look to what k3b requires next free time because my mates are not interested in anything but flashy GUIs and k3b seems more to their flavour. I'll try by the weekend to get something up for submitting to TWiki in how to deal with this one on systems similar to mine. But I believe that 10.1 might be working straight out of the box? Can anyone confirm this for sure, ie. you have burned to DVD-R disc burning more than 1gig per session. Now back to backing up properly. KiwiTux? ( Am I allowed to use this as a signature - don't want to step on any toes and google cannot find anything at present. ) Back again. Everything seemed to burn OK and I can see the whole file structure when I mount the dvd disc. However, I am unable to open any files. They are listed OK, but as user or root I cannot open them. I get the error message re: An error occurred while loading file:/mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html: Could not read file /mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html It was the Could not read... bit that had me open konqueror from konsole as root, but the same result. Any ideas anyone ? -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 11:04, SnapafunFrank wrote: Back again. Everything seemed to burn OK and I can see the whole file structure when I mount the dvd disc. However, I am unable to open any files. They are listed OK, but as user or root I cannot open them. I get the error message re: An error occurred while loading file:/mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html: Could not read file /mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html It was the Could not read... bit that had me open konqueror from konsole as root, but the same result. Any ideas anyone ? Hmm - glad you said that. I've just burned 2 dvds of backup with XCDRoast. The first one reads fine, but the second one doesn't. Looking at the burn surface, it should have been almost completely full, and it is only about 2.3 full, so I guess I didn't check the messages when it said it was complete. Teach me a lesson, though. I always used to verify backups and I've got lazy since I changed to linux. Now I'll go back and burn it again, and I'll verify this time. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Hello Anne, Thursday, March 10, 2005, 3:56:25 AM, Anne wrote: AW Now I'll go back and burn it again, and I'll verify this time. How do you do a verify? -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 14:39, rikona wrote: Hello Anne, Thursday, March 10, 2005, 3:56:25 AM, Anne wrote: AW Now I'll go back and burn it again, and I'll verify this time. How do you do a verify? In XCDRoast I couldn't find how to verify except when you are burning an image, so I settled for moving the disk to another drive and checking random files on it before filing it away. I'll have to take a look at k3b and see if that handles it better. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
SnapafunFrank wrote: Back again. Everything seemed to burn OK and I can see the whole file structure when I mount the dvd disc. However, I am unable to open any files. They are listed OK, but as user or root I cannot open them. I get the error message re: An error occurred while loading file:/mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html: Could not read file /mnt/dvd-rw/Bash/HOWTO/Advanced Bash-Scripting HOWTO.html It was the Could not read... bit that had me open konqueror from konsole as root, but the same result. Any ideas anyone ? It sounds like the directory structure is there, but not the data it points to. I don't know much about DVD writers, but I have run into this when burning CDs. Sometimes I can get around it by burning at a slower speed, but sometimes the only fix is to use a different brand of blank media. It shouldn't make a difference, but some drives like one brand of media better then another. And it may be the generic media that burns well, and the more expensive brand name media that fails. I end up keeping a couple different brands of blank media here, because the burners I use don't agree on what media they like best. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 16:59, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: It sounds like the directory structure is there, but not the data it points to. I don't know much about DVD writers, but I have run into this when burning CDs. Sometimes I can get around it by burning at a slower speed, but sometimes the only fix is to use a different brand of blank media. It shouldn't make a difference, but some drives like one brand of media better then another. And it may be the generic media that burns well, and the more expensive brand name media that fails. I end up keeping a couple different brands of blank media here, because the burners I use don't agree on what media they like best. I think the quality of disks is more important in dvd-burning than in cd-burning - presumably because of the higher density. I bought this pack at a computer fair, for convenience, but that is the second coaster out of the pack of 25. The other one was burned on a stand-alone dvd recorder. In future I shall only buy good branded disks. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Hello Anne, Thursday, March 10, 2005, 8:33:17 AM, Anne wrote: AW On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 14:39, rikona wrote: Hello Anne, Thursday, March 10, 2005, 3:56:25 AM, Anne wrote: AW Now I'll go back and burn it again, and I'll verify this time. How do you do a verify? AW In XCDRoast I couldn't find how to verify except when you are AW burning an image, so I settled for moving the disk to another AW drive and checking random files on it before filing it away. I'll AW have to take a look at k3b and see if that handles it better. Thanks. The lack of a good verify is a serious problem for us paranoid types. :-) I've had too many bad CD's, where most was OK and some was not, to trust a non-verified backup of critical information. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 04 Mar 2005 09:54, SnapafunFrank wrote: Just a possibility I've found while vivisimo~ing ( another other than google ), Apparently, I need to turn off all the goodies I got running on my system - that is, supermount, hotplug and the like. Frank, I've been away, so I don't know if you've got this sorted yet. I can say, though, that I have turned off nothing at all on my system and am getting a correct burn from k3b. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCLFj0kFAvMr/nNX8RApteAKCS7pfeHdddeKc7QMOqIO1CMNWL6QCePJN1 fw7cCHy4mgAOixm01QOD8q0= =pO05 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks for taking a look Anne. Not sorted yet, though I have tried. XCDRoast gets about 3-4% into a burn then stops ~ another dvd_coaster anyone. Whereas k3b does the prep work and without burning anything, it to stops ~ yet another dvd_coaster. It seems that something is not configured properly on my system so any clues as where to start looking are most welcome. In fact, if anyone finds a good howto burn tutorial for mdk10 that includes troubleshooting, I would be most grateful. I have tried all the following: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/-RW/ ( The discs I am using are dvd-r ) http://k3b.plainblack.com ( Signed up for this one but no feedback yet to my new thread. ) and of course all my forum wanderings, justlinux, linuxquestions, etc. I have installed stuff as a result that I never knew existed - but to no avail as yet. Basically what I'm looking for is stuff that relates to where to look for troubleshooting a system that is not playing ball. I need to clean a partition so as to sandbox 10.1 to take a look at. I thought it would be straight forward to burn 4gigs to a dvd ~ just my luck. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 08 Mar 2005 10:42, SnapafunFrank wrote: On Friday 04 Mar 2005 09:54, SnapafunFrank wrote: Just a possibility I've found while vivisimo~ing ( another other than google ), Apparently, I need to turn off all the goodies I got running on my system - that is, supermount, hotplug and the like. Frank, I've been away, so I don't know if you've got this sorted yet. I can say, though, that I have turned off nothing at all on my system and am getting a correct burn from k3b. Anne Thanks for taking a look Anne. Not sorted yet, though I have tried. XCDRoast gets about 3-4% into a burn then stops ~ another dvd_coaster anyone. Whereas k3b does the prep work and without burning anything, it to stops ~ yet another dvd_coaster. It seems that something is not configured properly on my system so any clues as where to start looking are most welcome. In fact, if anyone finds a good howto burn tutorial for mdk10 that includes troubleshooting, I would be most grateful. The only things I can think of right now are to check your set-up for things like - Have you got the latest dvd-tools package for cdrecord? Have you run XCDRoast's setup as root so that it knows about your hardware? XCDRoast, on my system, defaults to CD size burns and I have to select 4.7GB from the drop-down box on the burn page. I don't remember where to check similar settings on k3b, but I'm sure they will be there. Not much help, but it might spark something off for you. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCLYugkFAvMr/nNX8RAh8GAJ0RKTa6Csaaf7S0BMRdsToTuZtAWgCfXgCf xwoPFGUSzI82QZqLfzkoKAQ= =nPa2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 08 Mar 2005 10:42, SnapafunFrank wrote: On Friday 04 Mar 2005 09:54, SnapafunFrank wrote: Just a possibility I've found while vivisimo~ing ( another other than google ), Apparently, I need to turn off all the goodies I got running on my system - that is, supermount, hotplug and the like. Frank, I've been away, so I don't know if you've got this sorted yet. I can say, though, that I have turned off nothing at all on my system and am getting a correct burn from k3b. Anne Thanks for taking a look Anne. Not sorted yet, though I have tried. XCDRoast gets about 3-4% into a burn then stops ~ another dvd_coaster anyone. Whereas k3b does the prep work and without burning anything, it to stops ~ yet another dvd_coaster. It seems that something is not configured properly on my system so any clues as where to start looking are most welcome. In fact, if anyone finds a good howto burn tutorial for mdk10 that includes troubleshooting, I would be most grateful. The only things I can think of right now are to check your set-up for things like - Have you got the latest dvd-tools package for cdrecord? Have you run XCDRoast's setup as root so that it knows about your hardware? XCDRoast, on my system, defaults to CD size burns and I have to select 4.7GB from the drop-down box on the burn page. I don't remember where to check similar settings on k3b, but I'm sure they will be there. Not much help, but it might spark something off for you. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCLYugkFAvMr/nNX8RAh8GAJ0RKTa6Csaaf7S0BMRdsToTuZtAWgCfXgCf xwoPFGUSzI82QZqLfzkoKAQ= =nPa2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks Anne Sorted it with xcdroast ~ one needs to download proDVD and place it as directed to allow xcdroast to burn more than 1gig. Working like a charm now and have got my first 4gig DVD done. Will look to what k3b requires next free time because my mates are not interested in anything but flashy GUIs and k3b seems more to their flavour. I'll try by the weekend to get something up for submitting to TWiki in how to deal with this one on systems similar to mine. But I believe that 10.1 might be working straight out of the box? Can anyone confirm this for sure, ie. you have burned to DVD-R disc burning more than 1gig per session. Now back to backing up properly. KiwiTux? ( Am I allowed to use this as a signature - don't want to step on any toes and google cannot find anything at present. ) -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 04 Mar 2005 09:54, SnapafunFrank wrote: Just a possibility I've found while vivisimo~ing ( another other than google ), Apparently, I need to turn off all the goodies I got running on my system - that is, supermount, hotplug and the like. Frank, I've been away, so I don't know if you've got this sorted yet. I can say, though, that I have turned off nothing at all on my system and am getting a correct burn from k3b. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCLFj0kFAvMr/nNX8RApteAKCS7pfeHdddeKc7QMOqIO1CMNWL6QCePJN1 fw7cCHy4mgAOixm01QOD8q0= =pO05 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
SnapafunFrank wrote: Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable I have read the threads at k3b on this matter but am still unable to use k3b with confidence. Have 4 dvd-r coasters already. So hopefully someone here can assist in getting me to burn dvd's ? I'm running Mandrake 10 official at present. So far I have: k3b-0.11.1-15mdk libk3b1-0.11.1-15mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.13-0.1mdk dvd+rw-tools-5.20.4.10.8-0.1mdk cdrdao-1.1.8-2mdk cdrecord-2.01-0.a36.0.1mdk cdrecord-devel-2.01-0.a27.2mdk cdrecord-cdda2wav-2.01-0.a28.1mdk plus these also in case I've missed something: gstreamer-cdparanoia-0.6.4-4mdk xpcd-2.08-20mdk kdemultimedia-kscd-3.2-14mdk vcdimager-0.7.20-2mdk libcdio0-0.65-3mdk libvcd0-0.7.20-2mdk magicdev-1.1.5-6mdk libcddb-slave2_0-2.4.1.1-1mdk libkdemultimedia1-kscd-3.2-14mdk cdp-0.33-16mdk xcdroast-0.98-32.alpha15.1mdk.cae libcdda0-IIIa9.8-8mdk cdparanoia-IIIa9.8-8mdk gstreamer-cdplayer-0.6.4-4mdk cdialog-0.9b-4mdk nautilus-cd-burner-0.6.1-2mdk xpcd-gimp-2.08-20.1.100mdk I have also checked to be sure that the read only option is unchecked. So I still get the dreaded Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable even though I have done permissions as per the forum on k3b and changed them back again. I have also attempted to direct things with k3b-setup by trying to include the path /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format but it doesn't appear to stick. I have also uninstalled versions that appeared not to match and installed packages specifically for Mandrake10 only. k3b appears to start up more friendly as user [ using the CLI ] than it does as root, so I'm not sure what to make of that at present. ( Two logged strings as opposed to dozens as root. More GUI problems as root I think.) So how do I get to burn data dvd's to dvd-r discs? - Er... hopefully using k3b? What was happening to start me on the upgrade path was that k3b was writing nothing to the dvd-r disc but somehow cooking it anyway whilst xcdroast would get 3-4% along with the burning then simply stop and after a while eject the dvd suggesting it was done. As said above, hopefully someone here knows where I'm messing up. ### Just a possibility I've found while vivisimo~ing ( another other than google ), Apparently, I need to turn off all the goodies I got running on my system - that is, supermount, hotplug and the like. So I have a thought, ( ouch! ), is it possible to insert a blank dvd disc, allow k3b to open ( as it dose automatically at present ), close k3b and then umount the /mnt/cdrom to achieve the desired effect of other services leaving this disc alone for the time being ? The idea here, I think, is to give growisofs, from the dvd+rw-tools package, exclusive access to the dvd writer. That way I can learn to use growisofs to burn data to the disc and if'n that works then go back to getting a GUI like k3b fired up and working. While all this is going on, I have, of course, to stop anything else on my system from trying to lend a helping hand . If the above thought is not the way, how about looking at making a group such as 'burndvd' ? Would I be able to exclude which ever group/s supermount, hotplug and the like belong to from accessing that and thence give only growisofs permission for access ? I'm getting in a little deep here and would appreciate any suggestions at all. Have enough dvd coasters already. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable I have read the threads at k3b on this matter but am still unable to use k3b with confidence. Have 4 dvd-r coasters already. So hopefully someone here can assist in getting me to burn dvd's ? I'm running Mandrake 10 official at present. So far I have: k3b-0.11.1-15mdk libk3b1-0.11.1-15mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.13-0.1mdk dvd+rw-tools-5.20.4.10.8-0.1mdk cdrdao-1.1.8-2mdk cdrecord-2.01-0.a36.0.1mdk cdrecord-devel-2.01-0.a27.2mdk cdrecord-cdda2wav-2.01-0.a28.1mdk plus these also in case I've missed something: gstreamer-cdparanoia-0.6.4-4mdk xpcd-2.08-20mdk kdemultimedia-kscd-3.2-14mdk vcdimager-0.7.20-2mdk libcdio0-0.65-3mdk libvcd0-0.7.20-2mdk magicdev-1.1.5-6mdk libcddb-slave2_0-2.4.1.1-1mdk libkdemultimedia1-kscd-3.2-14mdk cdp-0.33-16mdk xcdroast-0.98-32.alpha15.1mdk.cae libcdda0-IIIa9.8-8mdk cdparanoia-IIIa9.8-8mdk gstreamer-cdplayer-0.6.4-4mdk cdialog-0.9b-4mdk nautilus-cd-burner-0.6.1-2mdk xpcd-gimp-2.08-20.1.100mdk I have also checked to be sure that the read only option is unchecked. So I still get the dreaded Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable even though I have done permissions as per the forum on k3b and changed them back again. I have also attempted to direct things with k3b-setup by trying to include the path /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format but it doesn't appear to stick. I have also uninstalled versions that appeared not to match and installed packages specifically for Mandrake10 only. k3b appears to start up more friendly as user [ using the CLI ] than it does as root, so I'm not sure what to make of that at present. ( Two logged strings as opposed to dozens as root. More GUI problems as root I think.) So how do I get to burn data dvd's to dvd-r discs? - Er... hopefully using k3b? What was happening to start me on the upgrade path was that k3b was writing nothing to the dvd-r disc but somehow cooking it anyway whilst xcdroast would get 3-4% along with the burning then simply stop and after a while eject the dvd suggesting it was done. As said above, hopefully someone here knows where I'm messing up. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
