[newbie] What have I done?
I am getting the following error when I click on either of my CDrom drives. Error -KIOExec Retrieving data from devices is not supported I realise I must have done something silly, but could someone point me to where it is? I can still access the drives by going to file:/mnt/cdrom or file:/mnt/cdrom2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done? End of story?
On Sunday 21 Jul 2002 11:37 am, you wrote: On Sunday 21 Jul 2002 1:59 am, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: By now I am fairly convinced that my slow system problems are caused by yet another ooops in changing from the windows network to the linux one. When I installed I gave my machine a rather long name. The network configuration, however, has all been done as WORKGROUP, the windows network. I realise now that although it works, to a degree, it is almost certainly the cause of the problem. I edited the hosts and smb.config files to the long name, but when I went to change the windows machines I found that it would not accept a name so long, so I now have to about turn and change everything to a shorter name (I don't want to keep WORKGROUP). The problem is, I can't find where this original name is set. I can't believe that it can only be set at installation - everything else is accessible if you know where to look. Can anyone point me at the relevant file, please Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com /etc/hosts (for local and other ) /etc/sysconfig/network You need to keep the 127.0.0.1 entries in /etc/hosts exactly as they are... Civileme Thank you - although I had changed the computer name from the gui, the domain name was still set to the longer one. I have now corrected that. Can you think of any other files that may have remnants of the old incorrect setup? Anne Well - I have poked around every configuration file I could find, looking for causes of the problem and found little of help but... Suddenly I am running at speeds dimly remembered from 10 days ago. I have no idea what I did that sorted it, but I am *so* relieved. I can get back to enjoying the experience now. Still, as the man said - If it isn't broken you're not learning - and I have certainly learned a few things recently :-) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Sunday 21 Jul 2002 1:59 am, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: By now I am fairly convinced that my slow system problems are caused by yet another ooops in changing from the windows network to the linux one. When I installed I gave my machine a rather long name. The network configuration, however, has all been done as WORKGROUP, the windows network. I realise now that although it works, to a degree, it is almost certainly the cause of the problem. I edited the hosts and smb.config files to the long name, but when I went to change the windows machines I found that it would not accept a name so long, so I now have to about turn and change everything to a shorter name (I don't want to keep WORKGROUP). The problem is, I can't find where this original name is set. I can't believe that it can only be set at installation - everything else is accessible if you know where to look. Can anyone point me at the relevant file, please Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com /etc/hosts (for local and other ) /etc/sysconfig/network You need to keep the 127.0.0.1 entries in /etc/hosts exactly as they are... Civileme Thank you - although I had changed the computer name from the gui, the domain name was still set to the longer one. I have now corrected that. Can you think of any other files that may have remnants of the old incorrect setup? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Friday 19 Jul 2002 2:51 am, you wrote: none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0 That's a lot of mounts - but none look like remote mounts to me either. Is there something in that usb? I was not successful in getting that readable, so it hasn't even been connected since - I've had other things on my mind g. I still don't really understand how these usb file systems are treated. When you browse (or cd into) any of the mount points, are there noticeable delays in processing? None at all. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] What have I done?
Hey Anne, 4/ Did you try a different KDE account or Gnome? I only loaded KDE. What do you mean by 'a different KDE account'? A different user account. Log out of KDE and select a different user and login as he/she. You could also try logging in as root if there is no other user you can log as into, even though this is discouraged (you should rather go offline before being root). You could also add a new user and see if you have problems in this new account, too. If no then something is wrong with your account, especially with some of your personal settings. Does this slow-dir-opening actually only happen in konqueror? What's with Krusader or any other file manager for that matter? What happens if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 and open a dir with MC? And if you shut down X ie go to runlevel I think 3 (someone please coorect me if I am wrong)? You could probably check what different runlevels do by looking at man telinit. Also runlevel 1 might be worth a try. Good luck Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Thursday 18 Jul 2002 6:09 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 18 Jul 2002 5:24 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 17 July 2002 8:15 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled SNIP Could you please look over the files and tell me if any of these lines are likely to be the cause? I don't want to start deleting until I know what the more obscure lines mean. mtab - none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0 This line looks odd to me. I do not have anything like it. Anyone any idea what it is for? (I looked it up on the web and could not understand the explanation http://www.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de/~rguenth/linux/binfmt_misc.html) Also. This has nothing to do with your problem, but you appear to be using Ext2 filesystem. This means that if you have to shutdown 'ungracefully' you risk corrupting your filesystem resulting in a tedious fsck or worse. Upgrading to Ext3 is real easy and will not lose your data. I believe tune2fs will do the job for you http://www.club-nihil.net/mub/viewtopic.php?t=2831highlight=ext3 derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Thursday 18 July 2002 01:19 am, you wrote: I only loaded KDE. What do you mean by 'a different KDE account'? Anne I think he means that if you are logged in as root, then logon as a regular user. If you are logged on as your regular user, then logon as root. See if the problem affects both accounts. It might be something account specific and not necessarily system wide. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
Keyboard input is no problem. Moving around with a word processor, for instance, is no problem. It's anything that requires loading time. Even more interestign. I hope your PATH is set to something simple and you're not scanning all those mount points looking for stuff during a load - that would really complicate things. /mnt/anything shouldn't be in your PATh. I doubt it is, but I think we're on the right track in helping you diagnose your slowdown - and it seems related to disk subsystems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
attempt to mount the usb smartcardreader, for instance. I can't see any that look like remote mounts, though. Anne - have you tried 'mount' by itself in a console? It'll list every- thing that is currently mounted. My guess is that if there is a remote NFS partition mounted somewhere, there will be a noticeable delay in mount's execution itself. mtab That shows current mounts - fstab shows those that will get mounted on startup. none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0 That's a lot of mounts - but none look like remote mounts to me either. Is there something in that usb? When you browse (or cd into) any of the mount points, are there noticeable delays in processing? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] What have I done?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 July 2002 11:40 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: What happens if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 and open a dir with MC? And if you shut down X ie go to runlevel I think 3 (someone please coorect me if I am wrong)? You could probably check what different runlevels do by looking at man telinit. Also runlevel 1 might be worth a try. I didn't dare try any of this Last time I triee Ctrl-Alft-F1 I couldn't get out of it. I'm not savvy enough, yet ctrl-alt-f1 (and f2, f3, f4, f5, etc) are all just terminals. that is they are just yet another place to log in to your machine. if you start X at boot you are running on f7, so ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back. - -- Some software money can't buy. For everything else there's Micros~1. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9N4UbBwq+ZwvIN/oRAkwVAJ0Yy8ec0qO6tpwkqPixmkleikp2eACdG4el JcgzXD8Cg7NrGojYCVhqaXg= =mbJo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 9:55 pm, you wrote: anne 4391 0.0 0.1 1792 596 pts/1R10:06 0:00 grep jabber A single grep output like that indicates no jabber running. I didn't think this was there - I don't use an instant messenger. And as I pointed out, I'm not sure it's something that gets installed by default, although it is known to cause problems. OK - I think we can rule this out, then. Logout appears to stop X briefly and then goes straight back to the KDE login. There i s a long black screen delay before switching to the KDE login I see, so then you start up in KDE by default (aka init 5) rather than the other way. I always have elected to boot up to a virtual console, login, and then start X from there. Either way, however you logout will restart at least some processes, and perhaps free up any memory leaks in those processes. When I was having problems with aRts I found that hang-up enabled me to log in without the problem. If I didn't hang up when I got the problem it was always there at the fresh log in, and even after a boot, as though it was being remembered similar to restoring sessions. desktop - almost a minute - and the panel and restoring session icons are there a very long time, too. Loading the desktop is a fairly complicated process - there is a lot of processes to start up. Even on my machine (Athlon 1ghz with 256 megs) it takes a while. It does seem to be X, I think, as once a Konsole is opened it responds fast enough, and so does text editor. Opening an instance of konsole takes about 2 seconds from mouse click on menu to the full window here - I just tried it. I'd surmise that's normal, and right now my system is fairly lightly loaded. Opening a new Konqueror instance takes perhaps eight seconds, from clicking on the home icon on the panel to full display and directory list (and my $HOME is full of stuff). I'd also surmise that as normal - times much longer than that would not be normal. Your timings seem about what I was getting up to a couple of days ago. If the slowness is unique to one program (konqueror, for instance) then we might be able to narrow it down, such as some 'net access that is hanging, or otherwise slow. Running strace sometimes gives clues, but it's not for the 'average' user. It also could be a misstuck icon -- for example, knode icon when pressed here takes a very long time, with the running splat thing going on and off, and no window pops up, but running knode from Konsole is more or less instantaneous. I haven't really looked to fix the icon issue. (Incidentally, I am using new 3.0.2 rpms from ftp.kde.org.) Getting Konsole up is very slow, and launching komba2 from the Konsole is also slow (but I can't remember for certain how long that took before the problem). Certainly clicking on the shell icon used to be fast. Starting top is fast enough, too, with a second or two delay only. If it's nearly everything that's slow, such as keyboard input into a konsole, or right click on desktup, etc., then soemthing is really amiss. That would also indicate that some process is stuck eating up nearly all CPU. Keyboard input is no problem. Moving around with a word processor, for instance, is no problem. It's anything that requires loading time. 10:10am up 13:12, OK - and how long was it before you noticed it got really slow, or did this happen pretty much from restart? Anne This was after an attempt to solve the problem. I had run for a week or so at at time, over about 2 months, without problem. This whole thing started when I first posted about it. After the reboot mentioned above I found it immediately just as bad. It did get a bit better, though, eventually. I minute load times dropped to about 20 seconds. After trying the solutions suggested by Civileme I was again back to nearly 1 minute load times, but again that has eventually dropped to about 20 seconds. This seems to take a few hours to happen, but then it doesn't seem to get any better. I have now been up 1 day 3:13. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
SNIP I'll keep trying whatever anyone can think of. There has to be a cause, as it was fine for weeks, and I'm determined to get it back to responsive. Anne Anne if I can jump back in on this thread. Can we go back to basics and check a few things. 1/ Your swap partition is mounted isnt it? Just run 'top' and the available swap space should be at the top of the display. 2/ Your partitions are not full up are they? I forget the console command but KDE Control CentreInformationPartitions will tell you. 3/ A Nice value of -10 for X should be Ok (Its what I have) 4/ Did you try a different KDE account or Gnome? derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Thursday 18 Jul 2002 5:24 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 17 July 2002 8:15 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I do need samba. Thanks fothe suggestions. I'll keep trying whatever anyone can think of. There has to be a cause, as it was fine for weeks, and I'm determined to get it back to responsive. i am sorrry i have only been vaguely following this one, but have you perhaps attempted to mount a remote drive in a permanent way? you might be sure you have no remote file systems (komba mounts etc.) and look at etc/fstab and etc/mtab as if they still show a network mount, and the mount is wrong or not available, certain things (konq, komba, etc) will slow a lot. at least for me. You could be right. fstab and mtab show a lot of entries that I don't remember seeing before. A number of lines start with none, and I don't know what some of them are doing. It looks as though there are still traces of my attempt to mount the usb smartcardreader, for instance. I can't see any that look like remote mounts, though. The reason I think this bears more attention, though, is because at the weekend I had a mishap. Whilst I was trying to sort out the lan there were still windows shares marked. I know I mounted all available shares, to see what was there, and I forgot to unmount them. When I had to boot into windows the FAILED messages were there. I think the slow down started after this. Could you please look over the files and tell me if any of these lines are likely to be the cause? I don't want to start deleting until I know what the more obscure lines mean. fstab - /dev/hde7 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdg6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 none/mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd1,--,ro,nosuid,iocharset=iso8859-15,nodev,exec 0 0 # /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hda,fs=iso9660,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0 none/mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd0,--,ro,nosuid,iocharset=iso8859-15,nodev,exec 0 0 none/mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,codepage=850,n odev,unhide 0 0 /dev/hde1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdf5 /mnt/win_c2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdg5 /mnt/win_c3 vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hde5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdf6 /mnt/win_d2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdf8 /mnt/win_e vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hde8 swap swap defaults 0 0 # none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs devmode=0666 0 0 # /dev/sda1 /mnt/cardreader vfat rw 0 0 mtab --- /dev/hde7 / ext2 rw 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 none /dev devfs rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/hdg6 /home ext2 rw 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom supermount ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd1,--,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd0,--,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount rw,nosuid,nodev,fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,codep age=850,unhide 0 0 /dev/hde1 /mnt/win_c vfat rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdf5 /mnt/win_c2 vfat rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdg5 /mnt/win_c3 vfat rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hde5 /mnt/win_d vfat rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdf6 /mnt/win_d2 vfat rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdf8 /mnt/win_e vfat rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0 none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0 Thanks Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Wednesday 17 Jul 2002 5:04 pm, you wrote: SNIP I'll keep trying whatever anyone can think of. There has to be a cause, as it was fine for weeks, and I'm determined to get it back to responsive. Anne Anne if I can jump back in on this thread. Can we go back to basics and check a few things. 1/ Your swap partition is mounted isnt it? Just run 'top' and the available swap space should be at the top of the display. Swap: 530104K av, 992K used, 529112K free 2/ Your partitions are not full up are they? I forget the console command but KDE Control CentreInformationPartitions will tell you. There doesn't look to be any problem there. 3/ A Nice value of -10 for X should be Ok (Its what I have) 4/ Did you try a different KDE account or Gnome? I only loaded KDE. What do you mean by 'a different KDE account'? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 15 Jul 2002 10:52 pm, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Why does this stuff never happen to me? It is very very hard to guide someone when You've never seen the situation. OK, next time it happens ps aux myfile tail -n 40 /var/log/messages myfile then CP myfile to your email. The only daemon I am aware of that could cause this is jabberd which seems to have a severe memory leak, so if you are using any instant messenger based on jabberd, it will eat so much of your memory that swap will be used whenever you try to open a new app, which causes a tremendous slowdown. The solution if that is the problem is simple urpme jabberd which will rip out jabber and everything that uses it. Civileme No - I don't use an instant messenger. Myfile info coming up: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 1412 504 ?SJul15 0:07 init root 2 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [keventd] root 3 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [kapmd] root 4 0.0 0.0 00 ?SWN Jul15 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 5 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [kswapd] root 6 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [bdflush] root 7 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [kupdated] root 8 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [mdrecoveryd] root66 0.0 0.1 1752 892 ?SJul15 0:00 devfsd /dev root 220 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [khubd] root 1010 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [eth0] rpc 1092 0.0 0.1 1544 532 ?SJul15 0:00 portmap root 1115 0.0 0.1 1484 592 ?SJul15 0:00 syslogd -m 0 root 1124 0.0 0.2 2012 1108 ?SJul15 0:00 klogd -2 root 1158 0.0 0.1 1724 808 ?SJul15 0:00 rpc.statd root 1254 0.0 0.0 1396 496 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/sbin/apmd -pdaemon1280 0.0 0.0 1436 496 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd named 1305 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1306 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1307 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1311 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1316 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named root 1357 0.0 0.1 2304 1016 ?SJul15 0:00 xinetd -stayaliveroot 1398 0.0 0.4 5356 2488 ?SJul15 0:00 cupsd root 1422 0.0 0.2 2376 1320 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd -root 1649 0.0 0.1 1452 524 ?SJul15 0:00 gpm -t imps2 -m /root 1750 0.0 0.1 1620 664 ?SJul15 0:00 crond root 1784 0.0 0.9 6904 5076 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usxfs 1809 0.0 0.9 6380 5088 ?SJul15 0:02 xfs -port -1 -daeroot 1837 0.0 0.3 4668 1768 ?SJul15 0:00 smbd -D root 1848 0.0 0.3 3740 1728 ?SJul15 0:00 nmbd -D root 1849 0.0 0.2 3672 1412 ?SJul15 0:00 nmbd -D root 2078 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty1 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2079 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty2 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2080 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty3 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2081 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty4 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2082 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty5 S Jul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2083 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty6 S Jul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2084 0.0 0.1 2404 692 ? SJul15 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm -nodroot 2095 0.1 2.3 54412 11820 ? S Jul15 0:35 /etc/X11/X -deferroot 2102 0.0 0.2 3328 1412 ? SJul15 0:00 -:0 anne 2184 0.0 0.2 2432 1200 ?SJul15 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/anne 2205 0.0 0.4 7456 2468 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/bin/medusa-ianne 2339 0.0 1.1 18244 6116 ?SJul15 0:00 kdeinit: dcopservanne 2345 0.0 1.7 20440 9032 ?SJul15 0:00 kdeinit: kded anne 2360 0.0 1.1 18632 5928 ?SJul15 0:00 kdeinit: Running.anne
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 6:51 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 15 Jul 2002 10:52 pm, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? SNIP Well those processes look OK If booting takes the normal time, but everything in KDE is slow. It might be worth trying a different KDE account or a different Window Manager. It is possible I suppose that your account may be screwed in some way ? If Linux is taking a lot longer to boot it might be something more fundamental such as a Hard Drive problem. I dont know if the syslog would show such problems, but it would not hurt to look. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 7:02 am, you wrote: The Mem used is creeping up all the time. Normally, that's OK as well, since Linux wants to use all the available memory -- what's not active for programs is used for disk and for cache, which is a good idea, since unused RAM is wasted. OK But having the system slow down to a crawl is certainly not normal. Some people on the list suggest the offender may be jabberd but I'm not sure that's something you installed (do a ps aux | grep jabber). jabberd is something that is known to gradually swallow RAM -- on my machine it was eating about 200 megs (out of 256) after about 3 days. anne 4391 0.0 0.1 1792 596 pts/1R10:06 0:00 grep jabber I didn't think this was there - I don't use an instant messenger. Drastic it may be, but I may have to. Could you elaborate, please? Well, you just click on 'logout' from KDE which will kill all KDE and X related processes, leaving you at a console shell prompt (if you start kde with 'startkde'). Logout appears to stop X briefly and then goes straight back to the KDE login. There i s a long black screen delay before switching to the KDE login splash. The first part seems OK but there is a long delay at the loading the desktop - almost a minute - and the panel and restoring session icons are there a very long time, too. It does seem to be X, I think, as once a Konsole is opened it responds fast enough, and so does text editor. The KDE startup was extremely slow and everything else has been slow since. The system is almost unusable. Ouch. How long has it been since you restarted? 10:10am up 13:12, Whatever it is, it is being saved/restarted on bootup. Last night it was taking almost a minute to open a folder. This morning it is slightly better, at about 20 secs. I don't ask for the session to be re-started, but I suppose that the message may not be what it seems? I think the trouble may have started when I was trying to add my SCSI film scanner. Afterwards I switched the scanner off, and then told kudzu to remove the configuration, so there shouldn't be anything left. Apart from that, I've run out of ideas. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
Hi, Did you try using a different window manager? * Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020716 13:11]: On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 7:02 am, you wrote: The Mem used is creeping up all the time. Normally, that's OK as well, since Linux wants to use all the available memory -- what's not active for programs is used for disk and for cache, which is a good idea, since unused RAM is wasted. OK But having the system slow down to a crawl is certainly not normal. Some people on the list suggest the offender may be jabberd but I'm not sure that's something you installed (do a ps aux | grep jabber). jabberd is something that is known to gradually swallow RAM -- on my machine it was eating about 200 megs (out of 256) after about 3 days. anne 4391 0.0 0.1 1792 596 pts/1R10:06 0:00 grep jabber I didn't think this was there - I don't use an instant messenger. Drastic it may be, but I may have to. Could you elaborate, please? Well, you just click on 'logout' from KDE which will kill all KDE and X related processes, leaving you at a console shell prompt (if you start kde with 'startkde'). Logout appears to stop X briefly and then goes straight back to the KDE login. There i s a long black screen delay before switching to the KDE login splash. The first part seems OK but there is a long delay at the loading the desktop - almost a minute - and the panel and restoring session icons are there a very long time, too. It does seem to be X, I think, as once a Konsole is opened it responds fast enough, and so does text editor. The KDE startup was extremely slow and everything else has been slow since. The system is almost unusable. Ouch. How long has it been since you restarted? 10:10am up 13:12, Whatever it is, it is being saved/restarted on bootup. Last night it was taking almost a minute to open a folder. This morning it is slightly better, at about 20 secs. I don't ask for the session to be re-started, but I suppose that the message may not be what it seems? I think the trouble may have started when I was trying to add my SCSI film scanner. Afterwards I switched the scanner off, and then told kudzu to remove the configuration, so there shouldn't be anything left. Apart from that, I've run out of ideas. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
let me jump in and say this sounds to me like named is mis-configured and her DNS is looking for the file on the internet, as long as killing jabber did not cure it. can you go to the K menu, Applications, Monitoring, Process managment, highlight ( By clicking on) any process called named then on the top menu, Signal, Kill. do this until all processes called named are gone. and let me know. there are a few services that when not properly configured can search all over before looking on the hard drive of your computer for some thing, and named is one of them. On Tuesday 16 July 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 7:02 am, you wrote: The Mem used is creeping up all the time. Normally, that's OK as well, since Linux wants to use all the available memory -- what's not active for programs is used for disk and for cache, which is a good idea, since unused RAM is wasted. OK But having the system slow down to a crawl is certainly not normal. Some people on the list suggest the offender may be jabberd but I'm not sure that's something you installed (do a ps aux | grep jabber). jabberd is something that is known to gradually swallow RAM -- on my machine it was eating about 200 megs (out of 256) after about 3 days. anne 4391 0.0 0.1 1792 596 pts/1R10:06 0:00 grep jabber I didn't think this was there - I don't use an instant messenger. Drastic it may be, but I may have to. Could you elaborate, please? Well, you just click on 'logout' from KDE which will kill all KDE and X related processes, leaving you at a console shell prompt (if you start kde with 'startkde'). Logout appears to stop X briefly and then goes straight back to the KDE login. There i s a long black screen delay before switching to the KDE login splash. The first part seems OK but there is a long delay at the loading the desktop - almost a minute - and the panel and restoring session icons are there a very long time, too. It does seem to be X, I think, as once a Konsole is opened it responds fast enough, and so does text editor. The KDE startup was extremely slow and everything else has been slow since. The system is almost unusable. Ouch. How long has it been since you restarted? 10:10am up 13:12, Whatever it is, it is being saved/restarted on bootup. Last night it was taking almost a minute to open a folder. This morning it is slightly better, at about 20 secs. I don't ask for the session to be re-started, but I suppose that the message may not be what it seems? I think the trouble may have started when I was trying to add my SCSI film scanner. Afterwards I switched the scanner off, and then told kudzu to remove the configuration, so there shouldn't be anything left. Apart from that, I've run out of ideas. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 9:47 am, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 15 Jul 2002 10:52 pm, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Why does this stuff never happen to me? It is very very hard to guide someone when You've never seen the situation. OK, next time it happens ps aux myfile tail -n 40 /var/log/messages myfile then CP myfile to your email. The only daemon I am aware of that could cause this is jabberd which seems to have a severe memory leak, so if you are using any instant messenger based on jabberd, it will eat so much of your memory that swap will be used whenever you try to open a new app, which causes a tremendous slowdown. The solution if that is the problem is simple urpme jabberd which will rip out jabber and everything that uses it. Civileme No - I don't use an instant messenger. Myfile info coming up: snip Hmmm, looks like it might be trying to access the CD (audio) ... Is there a disk in there? No - the only thing that changed recently with regard to CD audio is an application link on the desktop with Execute set to xmms /dev/scd0. This since about 3 days ago. I have trashed it just in case, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference. Everything else looks very normal. Two things to try 1. In superuser terminal supermount -i disable This didn't seem to make any difference. right when you begin your session (this won't matter for audio CDs but it will be required to mount and umount data cds) 2. at boot splash screen hit esc then type linux devfs=nomount This hung at the 'system server' bit, then the KDE splash screen disappeared completely leaving me with an empty blue screen and no way out but to power down. Manual fsck completed I'm back to almost a minute to open a directory on my desktop - though once open changing directories is snappy. Hope something here gives you a clue. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
et wrote: let me jump in and say this sounds to me like named is mis-configured and her DNS is looking for the file on the internet, as long as killing jabber did not cure it. can you go to the K menu, Applications, Monitoring, Process managment, highlight ( By clicking on) any process called named then on the top menu, Signal, Kill. do this until all processes called named are gone. and let me know. there are a few services that when not properly configured can search all over before looking on the hard drive of your computer for some thing, and named is one of them. On Tuesday 16 July 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 7:02 am, you wrote: The Mem used is creeping up all the time. Normally, that's OK as well, since Linux wants to use all the available memory -- what's not active for programs is used for disk and for cache, which is a good idea, since unused RAM is wasted. OK But having the system slow down to a crawl is certainly not normal. Some people on the list suggest the offender may be jabberd but I'm not sure that's something you installed (do a ps aux | grep jabber). jabberd is something that is known to gradually swallow RAM -- on my machine it was eating about 200 megs (out of 256) after about 3 days. anne 4391 0.0 0.1 1792 596 pts/1R10:06 0:00 grep jabber I didn't think this was there - I don't use an instant messenger. Drastic it may be, but I may have to. Could you elaborate, please? Well, you just click on 'logout' from KDE which will kill all KDE and X related processes, leaving you at a console shell prompt (if you start kde with 'startkde'). Logout appears to stop X briefly and then goes straight back to the KDE login. There i s a long black screen delay before switching to the KDE login splash. The first part seems OK but there is a long delay at the loading the desktop - almost a minute - and the panel and restoring session icons are there a very long time, too. It does seem to be X, I think, as once a Konsole is opened it responds fast enough, and so does text editor. The KDE startup was extremely slow and everything else has been slow since. The system is almost unusable. Ouch. How long has it been since you restarted? 10:10am up 13:12, Whatever it is, it is being saved/restarted on bootup. Last night it was taking almost a minute to open a folder. This morning it is slightly better, at about 20 secs. I don't ask for the session to be re-started, but I suppose that the message may not be what it seems? I think the trouble may have started when I was trying to add my SCSI film scanner. Afterwards I switched the scanner off, and then told kudzu to remove the configuration, so there shouldn't be anything left. Apart from that, I've run out of ideas. Anne Does Anne run any windblows OS's. -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 12:23 pm, you wrote: let me jump in and say this sounds to me like named is mis-configured and her DNS is looking for the file on the internet, as long as killing jabber did not cure it. can you go to the K menu, Applications, Monitoring, Process managment, highlight ( By clicking on) any process called named then on the top menu, Signal, Kill. do this until all processes called named are gone. and let me know. there are a few services that when not properly configured can search all over before looking on the hard drive of your computer for some thing, and named is one of them. 'You do not have permission Short of logging in as root, is there a way? Perhaps from the SuperUser file manager? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Tuesday July 16 2002 07:25 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 12:23 pm, you wrote: let me jump in and say this sounds to me like named is mis-configured and her DNS is looking for the file on the internet, as long as killing jabber did not cure it. can you go to the K menu, Applications, Monitoring, Process managment, highlight ( By clicking on) any process called named then on the top menu, Signal, Kill. do this until all processes called named are gone. and let me know. there are a few services that when not properly configured can search all over before looking on the hard drive of your computer for some thing, and named is one of them. 'You do not have permission Short of logging in as root, is there a way? Perhaps from the SuperUser file manager? Anne Well if I understand the problem su to root in a term and type 'ps -aux |grep named'. That'll return the pid(s) of any running 'named' process(es), and who owns them, besides some other info. You can then kill with 'kill -9 pid. Ignore the return that looks something like, root 24920 0.0 0.1 1664 588 pts/2S11:13 0:00 grep named That's just the grep process you just ran. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tuesday 16 July 2002 02:38 pm, you wrote: BIGSNIP root 24920 0.0 0.1 1664 588 pts/2S11:13 0:00 grep named That's just the grep process you just ran. OK - done that. Doesn't seem to have made much difference. Seems to me that I should kill anything and everything that I safely can then re-start so that only the stuff that's really needed gets loaded. Problem is, what can safely go? Anne no if you kill it, it will come back when you reboot, and in fact you may have to turn it off in the boot up menu, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] What have I done?
During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, Hmm. There might be an application or task that's swallowed a lot of RAM on your system. I would run 'top' in an xterm or konsole and see if there's anything that is eating up a good deal of RAM. Sometimes it's a good idea to logout and log back in - in other words getting completely out of X and back to console mode, and restarting X. Ordinarily, this action is a pretty drastic one. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this That's normal - the kernel image is compressed to save space. By that comment, I assume you rebooted your machine - now did it again start to slow down? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Monday 15 Jul 2002 9:12 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? No its part of the normal load process How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Just open KDE system guard and you will see the % usage of each application. Alternatively on the console just type 'top' You can kill an application in ksystemguard or from the console 'kill -9 PID number' It is also possible an application has a memory leak which is soaking up your memory, but do not be alarmed if you see an application listed several times in systemguard with each instance apparently consuming lots of memory. The memory listed is (usually) the total usage of all the child processes. If the memory used by an app keeps going up, then that is bad news. :( (And of course do not be alarmed if top shows your memory is apparently full. The 'cached' memory is just being used as a hard drive cache. It gets released as soon as an app needs it) HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Why does this stuff never happen to me? It is very very hard to guide someone when You've never seen the situation. OK, next time it happens ps aux myfile tail -n 40 /var/log/messages myfile then CP myfile to your email. The only daemon I am aware of that could cause this is jabberd which seems to have a severe memory leak, so if you are using any instant messenger based on jabberd, it will eat so much of your memory that swap will be used whenever you try to open a new app, which causes a tremendous slowdown. The solution if that is the problem is simple urpme jabberd which will rip out jabber and everything that uses it. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Monday 15 Jul 2002 10:52 pm, civileme wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Why does this stuff never happen to me? It is very very hard to guide someone when You've never seen the situation. OK, next time it happens ps aux myfile tail -n 40 /var/log/messages myfile then CP myfile to your email. The only daemon I am aware of that could cause this is jabberd which seems to have a severe memory leak, so if you are using any instant messenger based on jabberd, it will eat so much of your memory that swap will be used whenever you try to open a new app, which causes a tremendous slowdown. The solution if that is the problem is simple urpme jabberd which will rip out jabber and everything that uses it. Civileme Is this still true? The changelog mentions a fix in jabber-1.4.1-5mdk to fix a memory leak, and that is the version that ships with 8.2 In any case the jabber RPM is for a jabber server and is not used by Jabber clients. (At least my Jabber clients seems to work OK without it) derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Monday 15 Jul 2002 9:33 pm, you wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, Hmm. There might be an application or task that's swallowed a lot of RAM on your system. I would run 'top' in an xterm or konsole and see if there's anything that is eating up a good deal of RAM. To the untutored eye everything looks reasonable. 64 processes, 62 sleeping, 2 running load average: 0.02 0.03, 0.00 CPU states: 0.5% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.0% idle Mem: 513800K av, 295892K used, 217900K free, 0K shrd, 15604K buff The Mem used is creeping up all the time. Sometimes it's a good idea to logout and log back in - in other words getting completely out of X and back to console mode, and restarting X. Ordinarily, this action is a pretty drastic one. Drastic it may be, but I may have to. Could you elaborate, please? During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this That's normal - the kernel image is compressed to save space. By that comment, I assume you rebooted your machine - now did it again start to slow down? The KDE startup was extremely slow and everything else has been slow since. The system is almost unusable. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Monday 15 Jul 2002 9:45 pm, you wrote: On Monday 15 Jul 2002 9:12 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Just open KDE system guard and you will see the % usage of each application. Unfortunately these tools only help if you know what to look for. I'm lost. Alternatively on the console just type 'top' Again, without knowing what I'm looking for it's difficult. The memory usage is slowly creeping up, but here is what I'm seeing: 2095 root 14 -10 52812 11M 2276 S1.9 2.2 0:33 X 3395 anne 15 0 9916 9916 7496 R 1.1 1.9 0:01 konsole 3423 anne 11 0 1036 1036 812 R 0.1 0.2 0:00 top 1 root 8 0 504 504 440 S 0.0 0.0 0:07 init 2 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 keventd 3 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kapmd 4 root 19 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0 5 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 6 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 bdflush 7 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kupdated 8 root -1 -20 00 0 SW 0.0 0.0 0:00 mdrecoveryd 66 root 9 0 892 892 692 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 devfsd 220 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 khubd 1010 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 eth0 1092 rpc9 0 532 532 440 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 portmap 1115 root 9 0 592 592 476 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 syslogd 1124 root 9 0 1108 1108 428 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 klogd Any suggestions? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
On Monday 15 Jul 2002 10:52 pm, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes almost a minute to open any application. I have logged out, and even halted, but it persists. During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed. Is this significant? How, using Process Management, can I identify the process(es) causing my problem, so that I can hang up? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Why does this stuff never happen to me? It is very very hard to guide someone when You've never seen the situation. OK, next time it happens ps aux myfile tail -n 40 /var/log/messages myfile then CP myfile to your email. The only daemon I am aware of that could cause this is jabberd which seems to have a severe memory leak, so if you are using any instant messenger based on jabberd, it will eat so much of your memory that swap will be used whenever you try to open a new app, which causes a tremendous slowdown. The solution if that is the problem is simple urpme jabberd which will rip out jabber and everything that uses it. Civileme No - I don't use an instant messenger. Myfile info coming up: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 1412 504 ?SJul15 0:07 init root 2 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [keventd] root 3 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [kapmd] root 4 0.0 0.0 00 ?SWN Jul15 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 5 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [kswapd] root 6 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [bdflush] root 7 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [kupdated] root 8 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [mdrecoveryd] root66 0.0 0.1 1752 892 ?SJul15 0:00 devfsd /dev root 220 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [khubd] root 1010 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul15 0:00 [eth0] rpc 1092 0.0 0.1 1544 532 ?SJul15 0:00 portmap root 1115 0.0 0.1 1484 592 ?SJul15 0:00 syslogd -m 0 root 1124 0.0 0.2 2012 1108 ?SJul15 0:00 klogd -2 root 1158 0.0 0.1 1724 808 ?SJul15 0:00 rpc.statd root 1254 0.0 0.0 1396 496 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/sbin/apmd -pdaemon1280 0.0 0.0 1436 496 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd named 1305 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1306 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1307 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1311 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named named 1316 0.0 0.4 10236 2420 ?SJul15 0:00 named -u named root 1357 0.0 0.1 2304 1016 ?SJul15 0:00 xinetd -stayaliveroot 1398 0.0 0.4 5356 2488 ?SJul15 0:00 cupsd root 1422 0.0 0.2 2376 1320 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd -root 1649 0.0 0.1 1452 524 ?SJul15 0:00 gpm -t imps2 -m /root 1750 0.0 0.1 1620 664 ?SJul15 0:00 crond root 1784 0.0 0.9 6904 5076 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usxfs 1809 0.0 0.9 6380 5088 ?SJul15 0:02 xfs -port -1 -daeroot 1837 0.0 0.3 4668 1768 ?SJul15 0:00 smbd -D root 1848 0.0 0.3 3740 1728 ?SJul15 0:00 nmbd -D root 1849 0.0 0.2 3672 1412 ?SJul15 0:00 nmbd -D root 2078 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty1 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2079 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty2 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2080 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty3 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2081 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty4 SJul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2082 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty5 S Jul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2083 0.0 0.0 1380 408 tty6 S Jul15 0:00 /sbin/mingetty ttroot 2084 0.0 0.1 2404 692 ? SJul15 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm -nodroot 2095 0.1 2.3 54412 11820 ? S Jul15 0:35 /etc/X11/X -deferroot 2102 0.0 0.2 3328 1412 ? SJul15 0:00 -:0 anne 2184 0.0 0.2 2432 1200 ?SJul15 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/anne 2205 0.0 0.4 7456 2468 ?SJul15 0:00 /usr/bin/medusa-ianne 2339 0.0 1.1 18244 6116 ?SJul15 0:00 kdeinit: dcopservanne 2345 0.0 1.7 20440 9032 ?SJul15 0:00 kdeinit: kded anne 2360 0.0 1.1 18632 5928 ?SJul15 0:00 kdeinit:
Re: [newbie] What have I done?
To the untutored eye everything looks reasonable. Yeah, I'd say that. The Mem used is creeping up all the time. Normally, that's OK as well, since Linux wants to use all the available memory -- what's not active for programs is used for disk and for cache, which is a good idea, since unused RAM is wasted. But having the system slow down to a crawl is certainly not normal. Some people on the list suggest the offender may be jabberd but I'm not sure that's something you installed (do a ps aux | grep jabber). jabberd is something that is known to gradually swallow RAM -- on my machine it was eating about 200 megs (out of 256) after about 3 days. It may be something else that's eating the memory -- that's why I suggested running top. Drastic it may be, but I may have to. Could you elaborate, please? Well, you just click on 'logout' from KDE which will kill all KDE and X related processes, leaving you at a console shell prompt (if you start kde with 'startkde'). The KDE startup was extremely slow and everything else has been slow since. The system is almost unusable. Ouch. How long has it been since you restarted? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
