[newbie] Partitions, File Systems, and Kernel not installing
07/15/03 Hello All, from The Other Dennis, the CDs arrived. Thank you. 3 hours of 37 different combinations of installing, and the Kernel package failed to install each time. Same results with the replacement CD1 and the original distro CD1. Obviuously, my problem isn't with the CDs. I tried Journalized Ext3 and Linux Native Ext2 file systems. This is a 1998 Asus P2B motherboard that installed Bamboo once, the very first time I installed. No joy since. How big should the / (root) partition be? On that single successful installed Mandrake chose 5GB if I remember correctly. I've been trying 6GB or larger since. Is that my problem? Or does it make a difference which sector I begin the root partition? Does it make a difference on which of 2 drives I install root? What are the special requirements for root? Am I having trouble because somewhere I'm spanning a 1024-cylinder boundary? If my system had never installed Bamboo, I would consider a hardware incompatibility problem. But now it appears there's something in my installation configuration that's messing up Kernel. Any ideas what that could be? Oh, anyway to print out the installation logs as the CD boots. I noticed a message to the effect: error opening Mandrake base patch in somefile name on CD1 The message went by to quickly to get the details. Would it help if I could capture those logs as they scroll by? Thanks All The Other Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
You're right about a messy defrag with this option on. What I do is run Defrag in Safe Mode and leave the checks in place. But, before defragging, I run Scan Disk and then right after defragging, I run Scan Disk again. (the old BELT and SUSPENDERS philosophy). Then, I use Partition Manager to set the partitions. It seems that not many people have heard of Partition Manager but it's a super super partitioner and has gotten me out of trouble many times. I recently decided to shrink my C:/hda1 partition and expand the adjacent one (Linux swap)-- -piece of strawberries and cream cake with Partition Manager. On 19 Jan 2002 at 17:16, Brian Parish wrote: Yes, that's the one! It will screw things up entirely. Brian On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 14:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean deselect: Rearrange program files so my programs start faster ? My defragger doesn't have anything about optimizing performance On 19 Jan 2002 at 14:17, Brian Parish wrote: One other note to this - yes, run the defragger, but ensure you have deselected the option to place data and programs to optimize performance - something similar to that anyway - at least in 98. If you defrag with this on, Mr. Gates will stick a whole lost of stuff at the very end of your partition and diskdrake won't let you do anything with it. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] partitions
Does anyone know of a partition tool in Linux that can resize a partition with losing the data? Thanks -- Registered Linux user #225209 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:57, Nick wrote: Does anyone know of a partition tool in Linux that can resize a partition with losing the data? Thanks -- Mandrake's own diskdrake can do it. I've successfully re-sized my Windows partition (made it smaller, to give more room for Linux) without losing any data. However, it is important to run disk defragmenter before resizing your Windows partition. This will bring all the fragmented bits of files together toward the beginning of the hard disk, leaving you more clean and available space in the partition. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
Nick wrote: Does anyone know of a partition tool in Linux that can resize a partition with losing the data? Thanks -- Registered Linux user #225209 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hello Nick, I have never tried this, but it may be what you are looking for: GNU Parted http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ Thank You, Regards, mario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
On Friday 18 January 2002 15:08, you wrote: On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:57, Nick wrote: Does anyone know of a partition tool in Linux that can resize a partition with losing the data? Thanks -- Mandrake's own diskdrake can do it. I've successfully re-sized my Windows partition (made it smaller, to give more room for Linux) without losing any data. exactly what I was planning, thanks buddy! However, it is important to run disk defragmenter before resizing your Windows partition. This will bring all the fragmented bits of files together toward the beginning of the hard disk, leaving you more clean and available space in the partition. Dave -- Registered Linux user #225209 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
One other note to this - yes, run the defragger, but ensure you have deselected the option to place data and programs to optimize performance - something similar to that anyway - at least in 98. If you defrag with this on, Mr. Gates will stick a whole lost of stuff at the very end of your partition and diskdrake won't let you do anything with it. Brian On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 02:08, Dave Sherman wrote: On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:57, Nick wrote: Does anyone know of a partition tool in Linux that can resize a partition with losing the data? Thanks -- Mandrake's own diskdrake can do it. I've successfully re-sized my Windows partition (made it smaller, to give more room for Linux) without losing any data. However, it is important to run disk defragmenter before resizing your Windows partition. This will bring all the fragmented bits of files together toward the beginning of the hard disk, leaving you more clean and available space in the partition. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
Do you mean deselect: Rearrange program files so my programs start faster ? My defragger doesn't have anything about optimizing performance On 19 Jan 2002 at 14:17, Brian Parish wrote: One other note to this - yes, run the defragger, but ensure you have deselected the option to place data and programs to optimize performance - something similar to that anyway - at least in 98. If you defrag with this on, Mr. Gates will stick a whole lost of stuff at the very end of your partition and diskdrake won't let you do anything with it. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
Yes, that's the one! It will screw things up entirely. Brian On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 14:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean deselect: Rearrange program files so my programs start faster ? My defragger doesn't have anything about optimizing performance On 19 Jan 2002 at 14:17, Brian Parish wrote: One other note to this - yes, run the defragger, but ensure you have deselected the option to place data and programs to optimize performance - something similar to that anyway - at least in 98. If you defrag with this on, Mr. Gates will stick a whole lost of stuff at the very end of your partition and diskdrake won't let you do anything with it. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Partitions management for kde
do anyone knows a visual utility to edit the linux partitions for KDE? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Partitions management for kde
do anyone knows a visual utility to edit the linux partitions for KDE? DiskDrake or GnuParted for Linux. Partition Magic for that other system. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
I used the df -h command to check partitions and it showed me /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb5 but no swap. Can someone tell me why swap isn't listed. df is DiskFree. This will only show you the diskspace that is available to the users on the system. Swap is a system resource, you can't use it to store data on. So that is why df does not list it. Paul
Re: [newbie] Partitions (was: 8.0 upgrade)
It was Thu, 24 May 2001 10:12:05 -0700 when Civileme wrote: Well, an upgrade / update is a tall order for something with as big a delta as 7.2 to 8.0, particularly since packaging policies changed and library policies changed. You may have pieces of 8.0 uninstalled because the 7.2 package was one and the 8.0 equivalent was 3 packages. Hmm hmm. I did not know that the upgrade steps between version were steep. As a general rule, I make separate /usr/local and /home and /var directories, and just install a new version without formatting those partitions. I use the update install in special circumstances for the SAME version. For example, if I want to do a minimal install, build special filesystems then bring in the rest of the system, I use the update install to do it. Update install is also a great way to implement MandrakeFreq images. I assume then that this means it is best to do new installs each time, as in formatting the partitions that are not in your list. Okay, I can see that /usr/local is a mountpoint to a different partition, this makes sense. This would mean then that all software one installs afterwards should go to /usr/local then, and not to the default (for so many) /usr/bin? I have tried to up to 8.0, but the cdplayer couldn't read /mnt/var/lib/packages (or so), I guess it does not like the cd copy. I'll burn one on the old Philips CDwriter and see if that helps. Greetings Paul -- Ask not for whom the telephone bell tolls... if thou art in the bathtub, it tolls for thee. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.66
[newbie] partitions
Hi All, I recently purchased a 30 gig hard drive and installed LM 8 on it. The system is a dual boot with win98. I have absolutely no experience with partitions so I just went with recommended and it seems like I have one huge partition in addition to a small swap. I am moving to linux but I want to know if I should be creating smaller partitions for /var, /home etc..also, with a hd of this size would anyone recommend going to the reiserfs? Thanks, Bill W.
Re: [newbie] partitions
I like to have a partition for my web tree, and other Documents. so I make a /usr partition / partition and a swap partition. There are lots of ways to do it, and everyone has their own opinion, but the basic gist is that you can reinstall on the root partition without affecting your /usr partition. When you put in the new upgrade on / all your documents will be right there where you left them in /usr you might also want to include a /home partition for user documents and sites. Or a /var to preserve apache and mysql, etc. files Darin -- WIN A TRILLION: $1,000,000,000,000.00 at MoonBughead.com http://MoonBughead.com/contest/ on 5/11/01 5:12 PM, Bill W. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I recently purchased a 30 gig hard drive and installed LM 8 on it. The system is a dual boot with win98. I have absolutely no experience with partitions so I just went with recommended and it seems like I have one huge partition in addition to a small swap. I am moving to linux but I want to know if I should be creating smaller partitions for /var, /home etc..also, with a hd of this size would anyone recommend going to the reiserfs? Thanks, Bill W.
[newbie] partitions on text linux install mode
Hi everybody Im trying to install Mandrake 7.0, how i have only 32 ram, im using the text mode, but in this mode, when i must select the partitions only appears the /hda2 (such that i dont create) and i cant choose anythng else. I have a 1rst hd with 2 gb, and a 2nd with 8 gb, i wish use 700 mb of the first and 1 gb for the 2nd. Anybody worked with this text install mode ? Thanks for all. Mario. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie] partitions on text linux install mode
On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 00:46:59 , AcidShell *-.-* said: Im trying to install Mandrake 7.0, how i have only 32 ram, im using the text mode, but in this mode, when i must select the partitions only appears the /hda2 (such that i dont create) and i cant choose anythng else. I have a 1rst hd with 2 gb, and a 2nd with 8 gb, i wish use 700 mb of the first and 1 gb for the 2nd. That's problem I have a few times during 57-plus installs of L-M 7.1 where the mouse wasn't detected. Moving around the application is a combination of tabs and Ctrl-chars. When you get to that screen use you Tab key to get to the drive you wish to deal with, strike Enter, that will select the drive (/dev/hda, /dev/hdb etc). You can then use your arrow keys to move to the partition you wish to manipulate. Once you have it highlighted you will see two panels, the left will show Create, Modify, Delete and so on. The right will give you a description of the highlighted partition. you can use Control-M for Modify, Control-C for Create, Control-D for Delete and so on. Striking that key combination will raise a sub-menu relevant to the function you have selected. Again in this sub-menu it's tab to each field. I suggest you have a play on a spare HDD to work out how to drive the application - then you have little chance of screwing up any data on the drive you are trying to partition. Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters
On Friday 19 January 2001 18:09, you wrote: Thanks for the response, Fred; I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions. From the Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and explains: Loss isn't inevitable with windows partitions--they are rather easy to resize. Ext2 (Linux Native) partitions are much more code-heavy to resize and diskdrake doesn't have the codespace to deal with them, so in that case, loss is inevitable. If the four partitions on your disk are all primary partitions, then you are out of partition space and cannot add ANY partitions without deleting one and remaking it as extended. "Before resizing a hard drive which alreadycontains Windows, it is strongly recommended that you run ScanDisk and Disk Defragmenter from within Windows on the drive. And as always, back-up data you cannot afford to lose before partitioning drives." While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's inevitable. Of course, I shall backup that data. There is also an animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be seen here: "This animations shows how to quickly and easily partition a drive thatalready contains MS-Windows using DiskDrake." http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.2/Install/Custom/pag es/custom6.php3 Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old partition? I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to re-install anything then, either, as you imply. Any other feedback shall be warmly received, Dave Fred Schroeder wrote: Windows won't see any of the Linux partions. You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or something like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the data on the disk when you repartion. So make certain you have back-ups. Fred I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se) residing in C:\. Among the options in the install is one to take over part of C:\ for Linux. If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with new drive letters?
Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters
Dan LaBine wrote: Dave! If you install Linux on C:\ and Windows 98 is on it, you'll lose Windows98 ! If Linux re-writes your MBR (Master Boot record), there's an excellent chance you'll lose the partition info for all the other partitions. I think you need to exercise caution here. Are you trying to wipe out Windows in the process?? make sure you back up everything on ALL partitions! dan laBine On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se) residing in C:\. Among the options in the install is one to take over part of C:\ for Linux. If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with new drive letters? I have installed L-M 7.2 on at least 5 dual boot computers, and have never, ever lost anything from the WIN98 partition. Defrag it first then go ahead with a custom install of linux. When you get to the reapportioning segment of the installation program you need to 1) Click on the "C:\" partition and resize it to something larger than it contains (be liberal, WIN98 requires 10+% of the drivespace free for its ungainly swap function). 2) create new partitions out of the free space, At least 2; / and swap. ( I think /boot, /, /home, swap is better and adding a big /usr is even better.) 3) format the new partitions in the next step (check for bad sectors) 4) proceed on with install The other drive letters will not be altered. Windows assigns them at boot up anyway, and since it is too ignorant to recognize ext2 file system it wont even know they are there. Windows will only report on win file systems the other partitions are invisible to it. -- Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA -- Linux User # 71650 ICQ #19685870
Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters
Thanks for the response, Fred; I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions. From the Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and explains: "Before resizing a hard drive which alreadycontains Windows, it is strongly recommended that you run ScanDisk and Disk Defragmenter from within Windows on the drive. And as always, back-up data you cannot afford to lose before partitioning drives." While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's inevitable. Of course, I shall backup that data. There is also an animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be seen here: "This animations shows how to quickly and easily partition a drive thatalready contains MS-Windows using DiskDrake." http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.2/Install/Custom/pages/custom6.php3 Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old partition? I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to re-install anything then, either, as you imply. Any other feedback shall be warmly received, Dave Fred Schroeder wrote: Windows won't see any of the Linux partions. You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or something like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the data on the disk when you repartion. So make certain you have back-ups. Fred I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se) residing in C:\. Among the options in the install is one to take over part of C:\ for Linux. If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with new drive letters? -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters
Dave, No, I am not saying that a reinstall is certain, just wanted you to be prepared if it does turn out that way. Best of luck! Fred - Original Message - From: "Dave Burrows" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters Thanks for the response, Fred; I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions. From the Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and explains: "Before resizing a hard drive which alreadycontains Windows, it is strongly recommended that you run ScanDisk and Disk Defragmenter from within Windows on the drive. And as always, back-up data you cannot afford to lose before partitioning drives." While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's inevitable. Of course, I shall backup that data. There is also an animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be seen here: "This animations shows how to quickly and easily partition a drive thatalready contains MS-Windows using DiskDrake." http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.2/Install/Custom/page s/custom6.php3 Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old partition? I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to re-install anything then, either, as you imply. Any other feedback shall be warmly received, Dave Fred Schroeder wrote: Windows won't see any of the Linux partions. You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or something like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the data on the disk when you repartion. So make certain you have back-ups. Fred I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se) residing in C:\. Among the options in the install is one to take over part of C:\ for Linux. If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with new drive letters? -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters
Dave! If you install Linux on C:\ and Windows 98 is on it, you'll lose Windows98 ! If Linux re-writes your MBR (Master Boot record), there's an excellent chance you'll lose the partition info for all the other partitions. I think you need to exercise caution here. Are you trying to wipe out Windows in the process?? make sure you back up everything on ALL partitions! dan laBine On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se) residing in C:\. Among the options in the install is one to take over part of C:\ for Linux. If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with new drive letters?
Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters
Mandrake 7.2 handles this very well. I have a WinME 20G HD and partitioned 5G for Linux with 7.2 partition manager. Don Dave! If you install Linux on C:\ and Windows 98 is on it, you'll lose Windows98 ! If Linux re-writes your MBR (Master Boot record), there's an excellent chance you'll lose the partition info for all the other partitions. I think you need to exercise caution here. Are you trying to wipe out Windows in the process?? make sure you back up everything on ALL partitions! dan laBine On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se) residing in C:\. Among the options in the install is one to take over part of C:\ for Linux. If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with new drive letters?
Re: [newbie] partitions for Mandrake 7.2
On Monday 08 January 2001 02:40 am, you wrote: This is my very first post. hope it doesn't violate any of your rules. When I try and install my 7.2 powerpack deluxe distro I get to the stage of repartitioning my hard disk. The software gives you a choice of three options. The manual says that if you choose the middle option it will automatically repartition your hard disk for Linux use (I don't want to get rid of windows). When I select the middle option (use free space on the windows partition) it gives me this error message: Partitioning failed: The FAT resizer is unable to handle your partition, the following error occured: Can't locate object method "new" via package "resize_fat::main" at /usr/bin/perl-install/install-interactive.pm line 108, line 6. Whats up? If the installation software can't repartition my hard drive then I'll have to do it myself. How many partitions do I need to make with diskdrake and what do I need to set the mounting points as? Now, I'm a newbie myself, but I somewhat grasp how this partitioning thing works. At a minimum, you only need one partition mounted as /. You can create as many as you want and mount them as any other folder. Also, I've never used any partitioning software in Linux so you have to make sure it resizes the other partition(s) on that disk in order to create your partition and not just deletes it since this may make your other OSes or programs in the OSes not work correctly.
Re: [newbie] partitions for Mandrake 7.2
I suggest you make 3. One for root, one for /home, and one for swap. The swap file is small, about 128 MB should do depending on how much RAM you have. Then allocate at least 2 GB for root / and at least 500 MB for /home. It's sorta dependent on what you feel like setting up however. There are many guides/opinions on the ideal partition setup (Mandrake probally has their ideal setup on their website somewhere), but you can't go wrong with what I've suggested. Actually I've already done it (couple of hours ago). I noticed a cool little button with "auto allocate" written on it which solved the problem and set things up pretty much as you suggest. Thanks for taking the time though.
Re: [newbie] Partitions
Sure enough Paul. Was able to go in and delete them. Thanks On Sunday 31 December 2000 14:01, Paul wrote: On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jeffrey Norris wrote: I just reinstalled 7.2 (actually a couple of times) and now when I boot I'm getting all of these different entries in the loader. Such as 'oldwindows', 'oldlinux' etc. I have reinstalled before and didn't get all of that. Is there a way to rewrite the boot record so that it is as it was before ? Without risking the C: drive access...still have my finances in Windows. These things are remainders from all your installs. Entries in grub's menu.lst or lilo.conf. Has nothing to do with the bootrecord of your harddisk :) Perhaps with the other reinstalls you also formatted the partitions, and now you did not do that? Paul
[newbie] Partitions
I just reinstalled 7.2 (actually a couple of times) and now when I boot I'm getting all of these different entries in the loader. Such as 'oldwindows', 'oldlinux' etc. I have reinstalled before and didn't get all of that. Is there a way to rewrite the boot record so that it is as it was before ? Without risking the C: drive access...still have my finances in Windows. Thanks
Re: [newbie] Partitions
On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jeffrey Norris wrote: I just reinstalled 7.2 (actually a couple of times) and now when I boot I'm getting all of these different entries in the loader. Such as 'oldwindows', 'oldlinux' etc. I have reinstalled before and didn't get all of that. Is there a way to rewrite the boot record so that it is as it was before ? Without risking the C: drive access...still have my finances in Windows. These things are remainders from all your installs. Entries in grub's menu.lst or lilo.conf. Has nothing to do with the bootrecord of your harddisk :) Perhaps with the other reinstalls you also formatted the partitions, and now you did not do that? Paul -- Veni, Vidi, Vi http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] partitions....
Dale Kosan wrote: What would be a good scheme for a 9 gig drive?I have 128 mb of memory.I want a home partition since it holds all my settings and would be nice not to have to do upgrades,this way I could do full installs and not loose all the settings and personal stuff. Thanks in advance Please send to the list in plain text--I had to mail this to myself to see what it said. There are usually one to several "good" schemes per expert. All I can tell you is what I would do. /dev/hda1 /boot 10Mb /dev/hda2 swap250Mb /dev/hda5 / 500Mb /dev/hda6 /usr2750Mb /dev/hda7 /home 2500Mb /dev/hda8 /spare 500Mb /dev/hda9 /spare1 remainder of disk That way, you have two formatted partitions to do a second install and then you can boot to one to test new ideas or software and boot to the other to do production work. The second system would use /dev/hda8 as / and /dev/hda9 as /usr but /home and /boot would be shared (and of course not formatted during the second install.) civileme
Re: [newbie] Partitions
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Martin Sprenger wrote: Hi *!*@*.* IIRC Mandrake 7.0 creates four different partitions when you click on auto allocate /, /boot, /home and swap 7.1 auto allocates only /, /home and swap (which is sometimes bigger than 128 MB - I read somewhere that this is the limit for swap partition). What's the advantage of having different partitions when the all end up being mounted in the same directory tree? I'm not sure how much space I might need for / or /home and making one bigger than needed seems to be a waiste of disk space for me... by keeping /home on a separate partition, you are able to do an easy install of the next version of mandrake without loss of users' files...reuse the same partition as /home (do not reformat it) on the new install...saving all users' files can be done a number of ways, but this way is simple... frank
[newbie] Partitions
Hi *!*@*.* IIRC Mandrake 7.0 creates four different partitions when you click on auto allocate /, /boot, /home and swap 7.1 auto allocates only /, /home and swap (which is sometimes bigger than 128 MB - I read somewhere that this is the limit for swap partition). What's the advantage of having different partitions when the all end up being mounted in the same directory tree? I'm not sure how much space I might need for / or /home and making one bigger than needed seems to be a waiste of disk space for me... Martin-Registered Linux Newbie #01
[newbie] Partitions and re-installation
Hello list. I have just receive my Helios CD, an plan to install it tomorrow. I have two questions about this installation : 1. I have a partition monted as /home. What will happen to my home directory when I will create my account during the re-installation (I will keep this partition alive) : should I backup my directory (to avoid conflicts), should I rename it (and copy its contents to the freshly created), what will happen to the httpd (contains my web site), ftp and lost+found directories ??? 2. Though the CD claims "Helios", the mandrake-release package (mandrake-release-6.1-2mdk.noarch.rpm) includes file saying "Cassini". Is it normal ? Thanks...
Re: [newbie] Partitions in Linux
Thanks. I've really never thought of a seperate boot partition, but that can make life alot easier. How big should a boot partition be? I'm assuming 100 megs will be enough, but if not could someone let me know. On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, you wrote: Petey wrote: I've got a quick question I couldn't find the answer for in my Linux book. I have a 16.8 GB hard drive. Will I need to create 2 - 8GB partitions or can I create 1 - 16GB partition? I've never worked above 4GB partitions, so this is new territory for me. Thanks for the help. With a drive that big, you really want to create 3 partitions (at the MINIMUM). First, your swap partition. Second, a partition you'll mount as /boot. The last will be your / (root) filesystem. The reason for a separate /boot partition is so you don't ever run the risk of having the kernel installed higher than cylinder 1024 on the drive. Life is ALOT easier if you plan ahead. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [newbie] Partitions in Linux
- Original Message - From: Jason Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitions in Linux Thanks. I've really never thought of a seperate boot partition, but that can make life alot easier. How big should a boot partition be? I'm assuming 100 megs will be enough, but if not could someone let me know. On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, you wrote: Petey wrote: I've got a quick question I couldn't find the answer for in my Linux book. I have a 16.8 GB hard drive. Will I need to create 2 - 8GB partitions or can I create 1 - 16GB partition? I've never worked above 4GB partitions, so this is new territory for me. Thanks for the help. With a drive that big, you really want to create 3 partitions (at the MINIMUM). First, your swap partition. Second, a partition you'll mount as /boot. The last will be your / (root) filesystem. The reason for a separate /boot partition is so you don't ever run the risk of having the kernel installed higher than cylinder 1024 on the drive. Life is ALOT easier if you plan ahead. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Most people would suggest about 15 - 20MB, which should be enough space for more that one kernel. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] Partitions in Linux
Manny Styles wrote: - Original Message - From: Jason Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitions in Linux Thanks. I've really never thought of a seperate boot partition, but that can make life alot easier. How big should a boot partition be? I'm assuming 100 megs will be enough, but if not could someone let me know. On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, you wrote: Petey wrote: I've got a quick question I couldn't find the answer for in my Linux book. I have a 16.8 GB hard drive. Will I need to create 2 - 8GB partitions or can I create 1 - 16GB partition? I've never worked above 4GB partitions, so this is new territory for me. Thanks for the help. With a drive that big, you really want to create 3 partitions (at the MINIMUM). First, your swap partition. Second, a partition you'll mount as /boot. The last will be your / (root) filesystem. The reason for a separate /boot partition is so you don't ever run the risk of having the kernel installed higher than cylinder 1024 on the drive. Life is ALOT easier if you plan ahead. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Most people would suggest about 15 - 20MB, which should be enough space for more that one kernel. Yup, that should be fine. There's only a few small files that go in there, but keeping the kernel in a safe spot is important enough to create the partition. My /boot directory currently takes up about 750k, that's with just one kernel in there. Kernels are small though. :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Partitions in Linux
On a PC with and Intel/Intel clone chip you can have 4 real partitions. With that said, you are not limited to 4 partitions. You can also have 3 partitions and one extended partition. The extended partition is used to set up logical partitions(or logical drives if you are coming from the MS-DOS/Windows world). Your choices there are relatively unlimited. For example, I currently have 3 drives in my system. My 13 Gig drive is currently set up with 3 real partitions (hdb1, hdb2 and hdb3) and one extended partion hdb4. hdb4 is broken up into 5 logical partitions (hdb5, hdb6, hdb7, hdb8 and hdb9). All the partitions are approximately 1.5 gig in size except one which is 2.5 gig and set up as the mount location for /home. Note, you never access the extended partition directly but always through the individual logical partitions. I have read that you can have 4 real partitions but I have not been able to do it. What tool will alow you to do this? I have tried fdisk from win98 and disk druid in the install. Does fdisk under Linux let you do it or do you have to have something like partition magic? I also have made a partition duing win2k install. I had 1 partition at the time for win98, added 1 more for win2k in the install and it made an extended partition then in the install for linux using disk druid it made all my partitions in the extended partition so I have 1 real and 1 extended with several in it. Now all I need is Be OS and dual boot all 4 :). Later, Aaron Winters, Electronic Imaging Manager. Garner Printing, http://camalott.com/~garner http://camalott.com/~kaw
Re: [newbie] partitions...
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, you wrote: I have a very serious problem. I am trying to delete my partitions, and am unable to. I can delete the partition for dos, but I cannot delete the partition for Linux. My fdisk program (for dos) doesn't recognize the partition or something, so it won't delete it. How can I delete all of th partitions on my disk and start over? I really need help! Thanks in advance! Linux FDISK is the only way, AFAIK. Although, Partition Magic might be able to take care of it for you (something like $60 retail.)
Re: [newbie] partitions...
John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, you wrote: I have a very serious problem. I am trying to delete my partitions, and am unable to. I can delete the partition for dos, but I cannot delete the partition for Linux. My fdisk program (for dos) doesn't recognize the partition or something, so it won't delete it. How can I delete all of th partitions on my disk and start over? I really need help! Thanks in advance! Linux FDISK is the only way, AFAIK. Although, Partition Magic might be able to take care of it for you (something like $60 retail.) Bull. DOS fdisk will remove Linux partitions just fine. You'll need to choose the delete partition from the main menu, then choose non-DOS partition from the next menu. Choose the partition that you want to delete. I've used it many times and it works just fine. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Joe Brault [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a very serious problem. I am trying to delete my partitions, and am unable to. I can delete the partition for dos, but I cannot delete the Option 1: use the Linux fdisk (or disk druid) program. Option 2: use Partition Magic 4.0 (3.0 might also work).
Re: [newbie] Partitions?
On Fre, 26 Mär 1999, you wrote: / Am Fre, 26 Mär 1999 schrieben Sie: Hi I'm somewhat confused about how to write or name the partitions that I will set up during install. Here is the way that I think they should be written. Let me know if I'm wrong. I also have a 3.2G IDE drive to install Linux to I have listed the MB value that I think I should set these to. swap partition name "swap" set at 127MB root partition name "/" set at 300MB /usr partition name "/usr" set at 900MB /home partition name "/home set at 100MB Also I have partition magic can I set these partitions up in PM before starting the installation process? You don't have to. It's just as easy to do it during the install. But if you want, you can. Anyway I would propose a slightly different table: swap 127MB root 100MB (my / is only 80MB and there are still more than 30MB free) opt100MB (KDE installs by default in there) usr900MB home 200MB (since this is where your personal files are) Thanks: You are welcome tom -- "The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum." (Finagle's Law) Thomas 'Tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] No UCE. No spam. 'nuff said.
[newbie] Partitions?
Hi I'm somewhat confused about how to write or name the partitions that I will set up during install. Here is the way that I think they should be written. Let me know if I'm wrong. I also have a 3.2G IDE drive to install Linux to I have listed the MB value that I think I should set these to. swap partition name "swap" set at 127MB root partition name "/" set at 300MB /usr partition name "/usr" set at 900MB /home partition name "/home set at 100MB Also I have partition magic can I set these partitions up in PM before starting the installation process? Thanks:
[newbie] Partitions for Linux correct order
I have set up my hardrive in the following order Is the correct? 10 gig harddrive C: primary dos partition for W98 5 gigabytes extended 5 gigabytes D: extended dos partition 1 gigabyte logical partition linux swap 4 gigabyte logigal partion for ext2 linux native 133 megabyts is the labeling correct? and the order they are in? thank you , Paul __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
