Re: [newbie] Enlightenment
On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 08:38, Amy wrote: I'M A GMAIL USER, PLEASE BE SURE YOUR REPLY GOES TO THE LIST. THANKS. At the recommendation of a friend, I recently installed Enlightenment since I was curious about using something other than KDE, which is what I've been using since I did my first install of Mandrake back in the spring. I was wondering if anyone on the list has used it and/or does use it... and if so, could I get some recommendations on where to read up on it to get a little more comfortable with it? I've poked my nose in on their website, but I haven't actually jumped into their support documents yet, I'm just curious if there are any other good resources for someone trying to get used to Enlightenment. Right now I'm just looking for information on Enlightenment, so if you were going to reply with suggestions on something else I should try instead, please hold off. If I decide I don't like Enlightenment, I'll probably come back to the list and ask for suggestions on what else to try next while falling back on KDE again. Thanks in Advance, Amy First, hit the Enlightenment home page: http://www.enlightenment.org Secondly, there are heaps of themes for E that can make the experience even cooler: http://themes.freshmeat.net And since you're well on your way to experience OTHER window manglers, you can shoot for XFce4 which is nice and light and has keybindings that are useful (like ALT-F4 to close a window, ya?), IceWM, Waimea, Blackbox, Openbox, Fluxbox, Sawfish, AmiWM, OLVWM, PekWM - just to name a few. As a GNU/linux user, you are not bound to stick with just one or even two different window manglers - you can have heaps and heaps of them - all to pick and choose from at your leisure. You will eventually find one that you are the most comfortable with and one that will suit your system for speed and responsiveness. Enlightenment is very configurable and hackable - just a matter of getting down and dirty with it and learning all the configuration files and hacks. It's graphically pleasing, and has some nice Epplets - applets that run specifically on the E desktop. Keybindings are a bit of a PITA however, but can (sometimes) be hacked to be what you want them to be. HTH and all the best. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- ... all the good computer designs are bootlegged; the formally planned products, if they are built at all, are dogs! -- David E. Lundstrom, A Few Good Men From Univac, MIT Press, 1987 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:38:45 -0600 Amy disseminated the following: At the recommendation of a friend, I recently installed Enlightenment since I was curious about using something other than KDE, which is what I've been using since I did my first install of Mandrake back in the spring. I was wondering if anyone on the list has used it and/or does use it... and if so, could I get some recommendations on where to read up on it to get a little more comfortable with it? I've poked my nose in on their website, but I haven't actually jumped into their support documents yet, I'm just curious if there are any other good resources for someone trying to get used to Enlightenment. Well, http://www.google.com/linux sure seems to have a few links, including this one from the Ego to End All Egos, CmdrTaco of Slashdot fame: http://cmdrtaco.net/linux/e.shtml If anything should turn you off E, his page should :-\ Right now I'm just looking for information on Enlightenment, so if you were going to reply with suggestions on something else I should try instead, please hold off. ...it's hard, but I will... EG while falling back on KDE again. I'll do everything in my power to keep that from happening... ;-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:24:34 up 41 days, 9:37, 7 users, load average: 0.24, 0.08, 0.02 +++ He who does not put out his money at interest, and does not take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved. -- Psalm 15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Menus
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 07:47, Marc Resnick wrote: I'm now trying enlightenment, and I really like it. The one thing I don't like is the menus. They're not changing in accordance to menudrake. Is there some special enlightenment menu program? /usr/bin/X11/e_gen_menu /usr/bin/X11/e_gen_gnome_menu /usr/bin/X11/e_gen_kde_menu stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- A nuclear war can ruin your whole day. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Menus
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 07:47, Marc Resnick wrote: I'm now trying enlightenment, and I really like it. The one thing I don't like is the menus. They're not changing in accordance to menudrake. Is there some special enlightenment menu program? /usr/bin/X11/e_gen_menu /usr/bin/X11/e_gen_gnome_menu /usr/bin/X11/e_gen_kde_menu stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- A nuclear war can ruin your whole day. Err...none of those exist. I found that the menu I want shows up when I give it a ctrl+click. Is there any way to make it so this shows on a normal click? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Menus
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 10:57, Marc Resnick wrote: Err...none of those exist. I found that the menu I want shows up when I give it a ctrl+click. Is there any way to make it so this shows on a normal click? They don't exist? They're part of the normal Enlightenment package - have you check in the /usr/bin directory? Meanwhile, dunno about changing the key codes for the menus... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Ford had his own code of ethics. It wasn't much of one, but it was his and he stuck by it, more or less. One rule he made was never to buy his own drinks. He wasn't sure if that counted as an ethic, but you have to go with what you've got. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Menus
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 10:57, Marc Resnick wrote: Err...none of those exist. I found that the menu I want shows up when I give it a ctrl+click. Is there any way to make it so this shows on a normal click? They don't exist? They're part of the normal Enlightenment package - have you check in the /usr/bin directory? Meanwhile, dunno about changing the key codes for the menus... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Ford had his own code of ethics. It wasn't much of one, but it was his and he stuck by it, more or less. One rule he made was never to buy his own drinks. He wasn't sure if that counted as an ethic, but you have to go with what you've got. I'm gonna keep trying windowmanagers till I find one that suits my eyes/needs. Someone suggested Pekwm and OpenBox before...any other suggestions anyone? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Menus
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:10:42 +1000 Stephen Kuhn wrote: They don't exist? They're part of the normal Enlightenment package - have you check in the /usr/bin directory? They are in /usr/X11R6/share/enlightenment/scripts It is also avaiable from the middle click menu Maintenance/Regenerate menus Charles -- A woman can never be too rich or too thin. - Mandrake Linux 10.1 on PurpleDragon 2.6.5-1.tmb.1mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Menus
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 11:41, Marc Resnick wrote: I'm gonna keep trying windowmanagers till I find one that suits my eyes/needs. Someone suggested Pekwm and OpenBox before...any other suggestions anyone? XFCE4.0.4 stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- If a man has a strong faith he can indulge in the luxury of skepticism. -- Friedrich Nietzsche Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] enlightenment oops
Michael wrote: I was having a look around enlightenment and i pushed the virtual desktop windows right over to the right where they seemed to sit better. Then i rolled them up - right off the side of my screen... now how do i get them back? Yes i have RTFM, at least i scanned it looking for an answer. I think that in my home directory there should be a setup file i can delete that will be replaced when i restart enlightenment again. Can anybody please tell me what/where this file is and can i delete it ok? MDK V7.1 and enlightenment V0.16.3 TIA Michael with egg on his face truth be told, i cannot comprehand what the problem is. try doing the reverse of what you did, roll them down and push them left, turn around and clap your hands :o) OR, you can try the foll: ctrlaltleft_or_right_arrow key to change between desktops altshiftarrow keys to change between *virtual* desktops of the *same* desktop. this may help you roll them back down. alternatively push your mouse right to the edge and that virtual desktop will *roll* into view. ctrlmiddle_click_of the mouse -- select the desktop -- click on the app, that may bring it into view. if you can see even a bit of the window, then left click that portion, press alt and move the window back into view. you may also post your query to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will need to suscribe over there first. HTH, Regards, mario -- The software said 'runs on Win95 or better,' so I installed it on Linux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment
You're trying to create a menu for your LEFT mouse click? What you need to do is create ~/.enlightenment/file.menu. Here's the format you need, and an example from mine. User Menus Menu Name NULL menu menuname.menu APP NAME /path/to/icon exec /path/to/command That's the basic format. He's an example of what I have in one of my menus. Eterm /usr/X11R6/share/icons/mini/Eterm.xpm exec Eterm Some people actually type /exec /usr/bin/Eterm but it's not needed. As long as the command is in your $PATH, it will run the app for you. I hope that's what you're asking for, let me know if it's not though. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I am creating a custom menu but don't know the paths to the defaults apps that are |in the middle click menu. For instance where is the command to run e-term ect. | | PK | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
Ok then, how do I run Sawfish or Enlightenment without Gnome altogether? X-Windows is not something I'm highly familiar with. Also, I d/l the rpm enlightenment-0.16.4-2.i386.rpm I'm sure there is a command to check the dependencies without actually installing it. Anyone know what it is, it isn't verify which is what I thought it would be. I'm a little hesitant to install the rpm, as I'm not sure I'll easily be able to put things BACK if I mess it up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
Hey Civil, Do we know when E 0.17 will be released? Will this be included in MDK 8.1? Or at least a beta release? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:25pm up 5 days, 7:12, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On Saturday 15 September 2001 19:53, Tim Holmes wrote: | Sawfish is a light WindowManager which can support GNOME as a desktop | manager. There are others not supplied by mandrake that can do the same, and | there is Enlightenment which can also rrun under GNOME. | | GNOME is a desktop environment designed to run with a compliant window | manager, not alone. | | Enlightenment is heavy on the eyecandy but surprisingly fast. Sawfish is | extremely fast which makes up for its lack of native features (except a nice | ability to run themes), so GNOME with Sawfish is much much faster than GNOME | with Enlightenment. As a result, many GNOME users would call E a resource | hog. | | Now we are approaching the time when E will have its own File manager, and | everything about E has been rewritten for reliability, modular organization, | code reuse and speed. The result is that we will likely have Four Desktop | environments to choose from, KDE, GNOME, Xfce and E version 0.17. | | The situation could be nicer for the user. We could have 5:-). | | Actually, I think the competition inspires innovation and I don't want to see | us (any of us) settle on one WM/DM any time soon. GNOME and KDE have | recently become both more and less friendly to newbies, doing more for them, | but offering a huge number of new options and a number of new features that | can best be characterized as engineer's toys. Now the new E promises a | lightweight, fast approach to doing most of the same things with the added | feature of some of the greatest eye candy available on a flat screen. | | Users will tell us by their usage patterns which idea is more viable. | | Civileme | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
ryan_steffes wrote: Which one do most of you prefer? Enlightenment is my window manager of choice, though I don't use it in conjunction with Gnome or KDE, other than very occasionally running GMC. E17 will take care of that, however. :) For starters, my X-Windows doesn't display menu's on a rightclick on the desktop. Enlightenment has three different menus which appear when you click on the desktop with the three different mouse buttons. Right-clicking brings up the maintenance menu. If that's what you're used to, it is part of E, not Gnome. Is that an option in Sawfish? Heck I can't even figure out how to change my background. I'd like to RTFM but all I can find is help for gnome, and I'm not sure which parts are gnome and which parts are Sawfish. Have you checked the Sawfish web site? www.sawfish.org Have you tried running Sawfish without Gnome? Jesse -- !! Jesse C. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [___] `|' I have the simplest tastes. I am always /|\ satisfied with the best. -- Oscar Wilde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:54:36 -0400, ryan_steffes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which one do most of you prefer? I use gnome, and in Mandrake 7 it default installed Enlightenment and in 8 it defaulted to Sawfish. Enlightenment was the default WM for GNOME before GNOME 1.2. It is quite a good WM, and it works well on its own (i.e. without GNOME). It is most definitely the prettiest WM out there, but consequently is a bit of a resource hog when compared to other WMs like IceWM and WindowMaker. A new version has been in the works for quite some time, and aims to turn E into a desktop shell (more than just a WM, but not as heavy as KDE and GNOME). Sawfish has better integration with GNOME, and since GNOME 1.2 has been GNOME's official WM. On its own it is not as user-friendly or as feature-packed as E. It is very flexible, however, and boasts its own Lisp-like scripting language to add extra features. Its philosophy is to remain minimal, and rely on scripts and environments like GNOME to add functionality. It is one of the best WMs cosmetically (through its flexibility), but not as good as E. I'm not sure if the features I liked in Enlightenment exist and I don't know how to set them up, or whether they were features of Enlightenment. For starters, my X-Windows doesn't display menu's on a rightclick on the desktop. Is that an option in Sawfish? Heck I can't even figure out how to change my background. I'd like to RTFM but all I can find is help for gnome, and I'm not sure which parts are gnome and which parts are Sawfish. Tips, tricks, suggestions? As I mentioned above, Sawfish prefers to remain light, relying on external applications to manage non-essential functions. For example, GNOME can set your background image, as can apps like xv. Sawfish has a default pop-up menu when the desktop is middle-clicked. Click- and key-bindings are _very_ configurable in Sawfish, and can be modified in the configuration tool. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
On Saturday 15 September 2001 19:53, Tim Holmes wrote: Sawfish is a light WindowManager which can support GNOME as a desktop manager. There are others not supplied by mandrake that can do the same, and there is Enlightenment which can also rrun under GNOME. GNOME is a desktop environment designed to run with a compliant window manager, not alone. Enlightenment is heavy on the eyecandy but surprisingly fast. Sawfish is extremely fast which makes up for its lack of native features (except a nice ability to run themes), so GNOME with Sawfish is much much faster than GNOME with Enlightenment. As a result, many GNOME users would call E a resource hog. Now we are approaching the time when E will have its own File manager, and everything about E has been rewritten for reliability, modular organization, code reuse and speed. The result is that we will likely have Four Desktop environments to choose from, KDE, GNOME, Xfce and E version 0.17. The situation could be nicer for the user. We could have 5:-). Actually, I think the competition inspires innovation and I don't want to see us (any of us) settle on one WM/DM any time soon. GNOME and KDE have recently become both more and less friendly to newbies, doing more for them, but offering a huge number of new options and a number of new features that can best be characterized as engineer's toys. Now the new E promises a lightweight, fast approach to doing most of the same things with the added feature of some of the greatest eye candy available on a flat screen. Users will tell us by their usage patterns which idea is more viable. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
On Saturday 15 September 2001 21:28, Tim Holmes wrote: Hey Civil, Do we know when E 0.17 will be released? Will this be included in MDK 8.1? Or at least a beta release? tdh Heeheehee I fear that it will not be so my friend. We will serve no wine before its time, is an apropos quote for E and the philosophy they seem to be following. I am watching the CVS and I would say definitely not. Maybe the next release, but they are taking extreme care to do the project right the first time and provide a platform to expand and enhance for a long time. You should see it before KDE 3.0, though, with luck. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
I use Enlightenment, by itself. I've used it for some time now. My only complaint about it is actually an issue of Xinerama since I run DualHead on my workstation. Sridhar mentioned that Enlightenment can be a resources hog, which I've never noticed. I have a 1.2 Athlon in my machine and 768 Mb RAM, so maybe it's just that I have a lot of resources to use, but even when I was in a machine that had only a PII 400 w/128 Mb RAM, I had no problem. It was much less a resource hog then KDE, and I've always hated GNOME. (The only think I like about GNOME is the foot icon! :0) The only thing that I've noticed that runs any smoother is XFce. I also like the way it runs and handles things. If you install Enlightenment, or updated it, I would suggest you isntall the enlightenment-conf RPMs/source as well. So you have the E-Leacy tools as well. That's what I use to do some of the configurations. You can set up hotkeys for apps, you can setup the backgrounds and things like that. I have tried Sawfish, but not long enough to really know how to use it. I wasn't that impressed with my 30 seconds of use to start using it more often! :0) tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:32pm up 5 days, 4:18, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Which one do most of you prefer? I use gnome, and in Mandrake 7 it | default installed Enlightenment and in 8 it defaulted to Sawfish. I'm | not sure if the features I liked in Enlightenment exist and I don't know | how to set them up, or whether they were features of Enlightenment. For | starters, my X-Windows doesn't display menu's on a rightclick on the | desktop. Is that an option in Sawfish? Heck I can't even figure out how | to change my background. I'd like to RTFM but all I can find is help | for gnome, and I'm not sure which parts are gnome and which parts are | Sawfish. | | Tips, tricks, suggestions? | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Todd, Oh, if you figure out the "off" thing -- where the screen just goes black (I'd love it if I could get that to stop so the screen saver really did just run indefinitely, though I turn off the 'xset s noblank' man xset for the myriad of options available. Yes. I've tried it, but it's ignored. Are you sure it's noblank...? Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Meph Istopheles wrote: 'xset s noblank' Yes. I've tried it, but it's ignored. Are you sure it's noblank...? Positive. I will say that I have worked on one system that I absolutely could not get it to stop blanking. My next suggestion would be to look in the BIOS, but now I'm guessing. How about: xset -dpms #turns off dpms -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mrball.net | Sometimes you get experience. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --unknown origin |
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
i think what you are refering to is simply the XFree screen blanker kicking in. i have no idea how to configure it, tho it's on my list of things go figure out as i'd like to bump it up to 20 minutes. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ammon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:07:31 PM 3/30/01 EVERY OS is required to have a ScreenSaver. ;)) Not really. :0 I just noticed that if I leave my computer for very long the screen goes blank. Ammon At 08:45 AM 3/30/2001 -0700, you wrote: well, i use E and i never knew it had a screen saver. =) where did you find something regarding the E screensaver? maybe that will give us a clue. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ammon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:14:30 AM 3/30/01 Hi, How do I set the ScreenSaver in enlightenment?? Thanks Ammon
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Thanks! Ammon At 09:05 AM 3/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: Adrian Smith wrote: well, i use E and i never knew it had a screen saver. On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Jesse C. Chang wrote: There's an Epplet called E-ScreenSave, but I have yet to get it to work. Not that I've tried very hard, but... Having the screen automatically go black after 10 minutes is good enough for me. Actually, if I remember correctly, the E faq says to use xscreensaver .xdefaults. I have it set up now in E with the maze screensaver. Don't think it's perfect yet (I'll figure it out eventually). Right now, the maze comes up after 5 minutes (as I'd set it to), but though I'd set the screen to go off after an indefinite time, it goes black at varying times (10-60 minutes). Check out the E faq rean the xscreensaver man file. They'll get it going. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Oh, if you figure out the "off" thing -- where the screen just goes black (I'd love it if I could get that to stop so the screen saver really did just run indefinitely, though I turn off the monitor when I'm away for long periods), let me know. Meph Thanks! Ammon Original post Something detailed about getting E screensaver going. Meph wrote Actually, if I remember correctly, the E faq says to use xscreensaver .xdefaults. I have it set up now in E with the maze screensaver. Don't think it's perfect yet (I'll figure it out eventually). Right now, the maze comes up after 5 minutes (as I'd set it to), but though I'd set the screen to go off after an indefinite time, it goes black at varying times (10-60 minutes). Check out the E faq rean the xscreensaver man file. They'll get it going. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Meph Istopheles wrote: Oh, if you figure out the "off" thing -- where the screen just goes black (I'd love it if I could get that to stop so the screen saver really did just run indefinitely, though I turn off the 'xset s noblank' man xset for the myriad of options available. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | PPPoE: the internet for people who| | http://www.mrball.net | don't want the Internet. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Aaron Lehmann |
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Oh, if you figure out the "off" thing -- where the screen just goes black (I'd love it if I could get that to stop so the screen saver really did just run indefinitely, though I turn off the 'xset s noblank' man xset for the myriad of options available. You know, I was thinking that that must be it earlier today, but I didn't have time to look into it. Thanks, I'll fix that thing up in the morning;-). -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Adrian Smith wrote: well, i use E and i never knew it had a screen saver. On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Jesse C. Chang wrote: There's an Epplet called E-ScreenSave, but I have yet to get it to work. Not that I've tried very hard, but... Having the screen automatically go black after 10 minutes is good enough for me. Actually, if I remember correctly, the E faq says to use xscreensaver .xdefaults. I have it set up now in E with the maze screensaver. Don't think it's perfect yet (I'll figure it out eventually). Right now, the maze comes up after 5 minutes (as I'd set it to), but though I'd set the screen to go off after an indefinite time, it goes black at varying times (10-60 minutes). Check out the E faq rean the xscreensaver man file. They'll get it going. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
well, i use E and i never knew it had a screen saver. =) where did you find something regarding the E screensaver? maybe that will give us a clue. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ammon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:14:30 AM 3/30/01 Hi, How do I set the ScreenSaver in enlightenment?? Thanks Ammon
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
Adrian Smith wrote: well, i use E and i never knew it had a screen saver. There's an Epplet called E-ScreenSave, but I have yet to get it to work. Not that I've tried very hard, but... Having the screen automatically go black after 10 minutes is good enough for me. Jesse -- !! Jesse C. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [___] `|' "I have the simplest tastes. I am always /|\ satisfied with the best." -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ScreenSavers
EVERY OS is required to have a ScreenSaver. ;)) Not really. :0 I just noticed that if I leave my computer for very long the screen goes blank. Ammon At 08:45 AM 3/30/2001 -0700, you wrote: well, i use E and i never knew it had a screen saver. =) where did you find something regarding the E screensaver? maybe that will give us a clue. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ammon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:14:30 AM 3/30/01 Hi, How do I set the ScreenSaver in enlightenment?? Thanks Ammon
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Startup Apps
David Fuchs wrote: I'd like to have Enlightenment start a few applications (possibly gmc, panel, gkrellm, licq) at startup that will be determined by my own preference. Currently I have a `.xsession' script containing some commented text and a line similar to: exec /usr/bin/enlightenment If I modify this script to add my own apps, the script will be rewritten next time I start enlightenment and my changes will be lost to a file called `.xsession.old'. This is something I would like remedied, as I'd rather fill my program preferences into the .xsession file. If the "Remember" menu option to run at startup doesn't work, try editing .xsession when you're logged in with another WM and/or as root. Jesse -- !! Jesse C. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [___] `|' "I have the simplest tastes. I am always /|\ satisfied with the best." -- Oscar Wilde
RE: [newbie] Enlightenment Problems (yes, still)
No. I couldn't figure out what was going on with $prefix. How do I use --enable-fsstd and what does it do? I'll try the E-devel mailing list next I guess. Thanks for your help though! Tim Goodaire [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jesse C. Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Enlightenment Problems (yes, still) Tim Goodaire wrote: So I removed Enlightenment and the new version still didn't compile. It's still complaining about not being able to find IMLIB_CONFIG, even though I know it's there. I've even installed a newer version. Blah. The gods don't want me to use Enlightenment it seems. Did you fix any discrepancies with $prefix and all that? Did you try --enable-fsstd? If you can figure out where imlib_config is being looked for, you can try creating a link there, assuming it's different from the actual path of imlib.config. Otherwise, I have no idea why you're having such problems. :( Have you tried posting to the E-devel mailing list? Jesse -- !! Jesse C. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [___] `|' "I have the simplest tastes. I am always /|\ satisfied with the best." -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment install problem
Tim Goodaire wrote: I've been trying to edit the configure.in file to see if I can figure out how to get it to find the IMLIB_CONFIG and I'm not having any luck. It appears to be looking in $PREFIX/bin. What exactly is $PREFIX? Anyone have any ideas of how I can get this damn thing to compile? $prefix is /usr/local (it should be near the top of configure.in). Strange though, I didn't have any trouble installing E 0.16.5 a few weeks ago. You can try changing $prefix to /usr or enabling fsstd, but I have no idea what the problem really is. My imlib_config is also in /usr/bin, and I actually tried installing E twice - with and without fsstd enabled - and it worked fine both times. I did have one problem though; Linux Mandrake 7.1's graphical login manager thing was still looking for E in /usr/bin (or wherever LM7.1's installer CD-ROM puts it), even if I change .xsession to where the new version of E was installed. I actually renamed the old E (I guess I should just delete it), and moved the new E to where the old E was. I really need to clean those duplicate E files up. :) Jesse -- !! Jesse C. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [___] `|' "I have the simplest tastes. I am always /|\ satisfied with the best." -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment pager problem
i did this too... but don't remember exactly how i fixed it... um, (and not at my linux system now)... when you right click on the pager can you get a menu which would allow you to change things? Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham E Mandac Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:10:04 PM 11/23/00 Enlightenment users: I took the borders off the Enlightenment pager and now I want it back. Couldn't find a means to do it, though. Anyone know how it can be done, via some GUI menu or by editing some configuration file? Thanks. Abraham E Mandac Jr
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment pager problem
At 11:45 AM 11/24/00 -0700, you wrote: i did this too... but don't remember exactly how i fixed it... um, (and not at my linux system now)... when you right click on the pager can you get a menu which would allow you to change things? I got it now. You have to alt+right-click on the window. You'll get 'change border style' (or something like that) as an item on a menu, and... well, you can take it from there :) Abe Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham E Mandac Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:10:04 PM 11/23/00 Enlightenment users: I took the borders off the Enlightenment pager and now I want it back. Couldn't find a means to do it, though. Anyone know how it can be done, via some GUI menu or by editing some configuration file? Thanks.
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment pager problem
As far as I know, in Enlightenment, all you have to do is right click on what every little border you get with "no border" and it should give you a menu. At the very bottom of that menu it should have the option of "Borders." If you click there, another sub menu will open up and it gives you the options of the different kinds of borders available to you. There are actually two different borderd "made" just for the pager and are denoted as such in their name. I'm pretty sure that works for both Mandrake 7.1, and 7.2. tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.unixtechs.org/ "Real Men use Vi." * Abraham E Mandac Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001124 00:10]: Enlightenment users: I took the borders off the Enlightenment pager and now I want it back. Couldn't find a means to do it, though. Anyone know how it can be done, via some GUI menu or by editing some configuration file? Thanks. Abraham E Mandac Jr
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment / sound question
Adrian Smith wrote: for anyone here using Enlightenment my sound card is working -- if i start a KDE session it works fine but under E i get nothing. i found out that some E themes don't support sound. I am using Absolute E, and have tried some of the other themes. same result. when i try to turn on the sound i get the message: audio was enabled for E but there was an error communicating with the audio server (Esound). audio will now be disabled. i searched my computer for a file called Esound but didn't find anything. am i missing a program or library? I think that esound is a separate package from enlightenment. So check if it is installed (rpm -qa |grep -i esound). If it is not, install it from the CD (rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/esound*) Read the doc (rpm -qd esound) and you should be able to make it work. HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~!
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment / sound question
thanks for the suggestion. when i installed 7.1 i installed 100% of everything with the developers install, so i would have figured that if it were on the disk i'd have it. but i'll look now that i have some better idea what i'm looking for. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jean-philippe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7:32:24 AM 11/15/00 I think that esound is a separate package from enlightenment. So check if it is installed (rpm -qa |grep -i esound). If it is not, install it from the CD (rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/esound*) Read the doc (rpm -qd esound) and you should be able to make it work.
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment update
It means you're missing some of the features included in the newer version of fnlib. Download and install the latest imlib version from http://ww.enlightenment.org and it will work. HTH Flupke On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Nickolay Belostotsky wrote: Hello! When I try to upgrande E from 0.16.3 to .4: rpm -Uvh name it says: broken dependencies: fnlib = 0.5 needed ... (a translation from Russian, not sure) What's wrong?
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment upgrade
Use rpm -U and everything should be fine Hello! My Mandrake distro came with DR0.16.3 release of E. Now I downloaded the 0.16.4 RPM release. Do I need to uninstall .3 before upgrading to .4? Or just `rpm -i' it? Thanks
RE: [newbie] Enlightenment upgrade
just rpm -Uvh -Original Message- From: Nickolay Belostotsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 09:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Enlightenment upgrade Hello! My Mandrake distro came with DR0.16.3 release of E. Now I downloaded the 0.16.4 RPM release. Do I need to uninstall .3 before upgrading to .4? Or just `rpm -i' it? Thanks!
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment not starting?
Dan, I'm maybe wrong, but I think enlightenment needs to start before you can use gnome. It needs to setup the desktops. Maybe not though, after all I'm a real newbie, but I'm learning. Rick N - Original Message - From: Dan Ros [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: [newbie] Enlightenment not starting? What could I have done to stop enlightenment not starting up on my Gnome login? And, how do I set it to start again? Or is it best just to create a new login? TIA -- http://www.uplink.freeuk.com - ICQ: 15212336 No witty comment or quote required.
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment not starting?
Rick N wrote: Dan, I'm maybe wrong, but I think enlightenment needs to start before you can use gnome. It needs to setup the desktops. Maybe not though, after all I'm a real newbie, but I'm learning. It's ok, I fixed it. I just opened up a terminal and typed enlightenment and it started. I chose 'save settings' when I logged out.
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ALT-Fx Problems
I'm pretty sure what you're talking about is done with CRTL+ALT+Fx keys now. I know that switches "desktops" of a sort. I'm new to this world, so I'm not sure what they're called... ~~~ Jason Wojciechowski Hampshire College AIM: DoctaWojo E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'm a born lever-puller." On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Jeremy Collins wrote: I recently installed Mandrake 7.0 to test it out on my laptop. I like to make use of my virtual desktops. In Enlightenment you can setup the ALT-Fx keys to switch desktops just like virtual terminals. However this does not work with Mandrake's setup. Any ideas on how to fix this? I believe there is some other problem that already claimed those keys but don't know how to find out help... -- Jeremy Collins LinuxMall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment ALT-Fx Problems
from Xserver you can use Ctrl F1-F4 for switching your desktop.. to get to another console press Ctrl Alt F6, then Alt F1 (which is the console that Xserver is running on) all the way up to Alt F7, five more consoles to log in with.. Aaron newbie2 I'm pretty sure what you're talking about is done with CRTL+ALT+Fx keys now. I know that switches "desktops" of a sort. I'm new to this world, so I'm not sure what they're called... ~~~ Jason Wojciechowski Hampshire College AIM: DoctaWojo E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'm a born lever-puller." I recently installed Mandrake 7.0 to test it out on my laptop. I like to make use of my virtual desktops. In Enlightenment you can setup the ALT-Fx keys to switch desktops just like virtual terminals. However this does not work with Mandrake's setup. Any ideas on how to fix this? I believe there is some other problem that already claimed those keys but don't know how to find out help... -- Jeremy Collins LinuxMall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Jesse Royall wrote: tate.. I am not 100% sure.. but desktopcfg that works for me at the command line. and then I just select the Desktop I want to use...took me a few reinstalls to do figure that one out! Jess On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:43:57 -0700 "Tate A. Yancey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've screwed up my system so many times that I'm tired of reinstalling :). Can someone tell me what files to change to have enlightenment as my wm for kde? ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. This was discused last week with very good instructions (step by step), have a look in the archives. desktopcfg doesn't yet have an option for Enlightened-KDE, as i haven't gotten to it yet. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Axalon, I searcged the archives and couldn't find the info on this. Could you please provide the references or links to the info? Thanks
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Jesse Royall wrote: tate.. I am not 100% sure.. but desktopcfg that works for me at the command line. and then I just select the Desktop I want to use...took me a few reinstalls to do figure that one out! Jess On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:43:57 -0700 "Tate A. Yancey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've screwed up my system so many times that I'm tired of reinstalling :). Can someone tell me what files to change to have enlightenment as my wm for kde? ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. This was discused last week with very good instructions (step by step), have a look in the archives. desktopcfg doesn't yet have an option for Enlightened-KDE, as i haven't gotten to it yet. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: desktopcfg doesn't yet have an option for Enlightened-KDE, as i haven't gotten to it yet. Well, gee, Axalonwhat's keeping you??? ;-) (Tongue FIRMLY planted in cheek! G) John
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: This was discused last week with very good instructions (step by step), have a look in the archives. here are two files you need to check out, startkde and Xclients. The basic intsructions are change the exec referencre to kwm in startkde to enlightenment, save the file as something else, then in Xclients, change the reference to startkde to whatever you saved the modified startkde to. . .thats it in a nutshell. . .not sure if it works seeing as how i havent tried it yet, but thats what i pieced together from various posts and sites. . .good luck! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
Thanks all. Let me also say I really appreciate the help. I've tried irc and all I get is read the manual. At 06:06 PM 11/04/1999 -0700, you wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Jesse Royall wrote: This was discused last week with very good instructions (step by step), have a look in the archives. desktopcfg doesn't yet have an option for Enlightened-KDE, as i haven't gotten to it yet. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Lawrence Greer wrote: Does anyone know how to upgrade enlightenment. If not a good faq wouldn't hurt. Thanks Lawrence G. rpm -ihv \ ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/contrib/RPMS/rpmfind-1.2-1mdk.i586.rpm rpmfind enlightenment I'm sure it's documented on the website also.. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
On 5 Nov, Lawrence Greer wrote: Does anyone know how to upgrade enlightenment. If not a good faq wouldn't hurt. Sure... download the RPMS from cooker. From here, ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS makes a great mirror. You'll need enlightenment, esound, imlib, fnlib, freetype, and all the accompanying "-devel" packages. Also get imlib-cfgeditor and you may want the enlightenment-conf package, too. -- -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
