Re: [newbie] Konqueror and javascript
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 08:02, Angus Auld wrote: Hi Anne, just to pass along something I recently discovered concerning Konq as File Manager in SuperUser mode. The fonts that were being displayed were ugly, not the nice fonts I have in user mode, so I decided to try changing the font settings while in SU mode. That's what has to be done. The font settings were default in SU mode! They require separate adjustment. After I set the fonts for Konq File Manager while SU, things look a lot better now. :-) They were probably set to be ugly on purpose to remind you that you're in su mode and to persuade you to leave it as soon as your necessary work there is done. To minimize any possible accidental damage done as root. This is a not uncommon circumstance all over Linux while in root in various apps. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake update
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 16:29, Charlie wrote: I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system. When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five minutes doing nothing. The first time I tried the update, I thought the system had locked up or something and nothing was happening. But apparently, it's working, but moving very S-L-O-W-L-Y... Howdy Seth; It's looking for the 1st install CD. Put it (CD1) in the drive and you won't have such slow responses. I have no idea why but mine does the same thing and fills the logs with 'error accessing cdrom previous message repeated umpteen times' type of fluff. I ignore them of course. It's a supermount thing. Supermount is still not quite all things to all hardware configurations or all people for that matter. Just run update with the CD in the drive and grit your teeth. Regards; I was unable to reply immediately when I got this advice, but God bless you, because it did the trick. It would seem to be a fairly significant bug that they should have issued a patch for. However, your advice worked, and has saved me a lot of grief. Thanks very much. Seth Williamson Floyd, VA USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to find Abiword on system?
Just yesterday I installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system. I am using the KDE desktop. I was unable to find Abiword in the menu system, and it doesn't come up when I type abiword in the run command line. Then I tried to install it from the Mandrake Control Center software installation routine, but it tells me that everything already installed--is this supposed to happen? I can't find the package on my system. Searching for it with the find command hasn't turned up anything, though it's possible that I'm so much of a newbie that I didn't search in the right places. Can somebody tell me how to find this program on my system and make it work? Thanks... Seth Williamson Floyd, VA USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to find Abiword on system?
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 14:18, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 05:10, Seth Williamson wrote: Just yesterday I installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system. I am using the KDE desktop. I was unable to find Abiword in the menu system, and it doesn't come up when I type abiword in the run command line. /usr/bin/AbiWord This was the first thing I tried. There is no directory called abiword in the /usr/bin directory. So far as I'm able to determine, there is no directory called abiword anywhere on my system. This is why I can't understand why the Mandrake software installation tool is claiming that I've already got it. Any ideas? Seth Williamson Floyd, VA USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake update
I just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system today for the first time. I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system. When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five minutes doing nothing. The first time I tried the update, I thought the system had locked up or something and nothing was happening. But apparently, it's working, but moving very S-L-O-W-L-Y. Another two or three minutes elapses between all the other steps of determining what packages are needed, contacting the mirror sites, and finally downloading and installing the software. The downloads themselves seem to proceed at a normal rate for my connection. Then, once the software is downloaded and installed, I can't seem to kill rmpdrake. It just sits there. After it tells me the software was installed successfully, and I OK out of that little box, then I hit the quit button, but the button won't depress, suggesting that the app is locked up or just not responding. I have to kill it with xkill. Is this normal behavior? I don't have a particularly fast connection--I'm on dial-up at 56K--but coming from a Debian distro (Libranet), the whole thing seems clunky and slow to me, and it strikes me as a bad idea that newbies can't tell if the update operation is actually moving along, or if it's locked up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IP address
On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 09:27, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 26 Aug 2002 2:06 am, you wrote: On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 12:56, Miark wrote: In some previous posts I have noticed people refering to their IP address range as xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/xx. Just curious as to what the /xx refers to. Is it some type of range? CIDR notation takes advantage of this numbering trick to represent the whole submask by only counting how many bits represent machine numbers. So 192.168.0.1/8 is 192.168.0.1/... or 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0. Almost correct. The number to the right of the slash (e.g., the 24 in something like 192.168.1.1/24) is the prefix length or number of bits in the network number and subnet mask. This means that 192.168.0.1/8 really identifies host address 192.168.0.1 from network 192 and subnet mask 255.0.0.0. Another example is 192.168.1.1/24. This specifies the network 192.168.1, the subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and the host address 192.168.1.1. Now I'm really confused. In my reading for my lan I was told that /24 was the correct entry for a class c network. My net is 192.168.0. with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 - are you saying that /24 is wrong? If so, what should it be? I presume that you were confused by the original poster rather than by my followup since the example you cite is nearly identical to the one I used. Applying /24 to 192.168.0.1 we get 192.168.0.1/24. This refers to host address 192.168.0.1 on network 192.168.0 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IP address
On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 12:56, Miark wrote: In some previous posts I have noticed people refering to their IP address range as xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/xx. Just curious as to what the /xx refers to. Is it some type of range? CIDR notation takes advantage of this numbering trick to represent the whole submask by only counting how many bits represent machine numbers. So 192.168.0.1/8 is 192.168.0.1/... or 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0. Almost correct. The number to the right of the slash (e.g., the 24 in something like 192.168.1.1/24) is the prefix length or number of bits in the network number and subnet mask. This means that 192.168.0.1/8 really identifies host address 192.168.0.1 from network 192 and subnet mask 255.0.0.0. Another example is 192.168.1.1/24. This specifies the network 192.168.1, the subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and the host address 192.168.1.1. Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sharing Files, OT mail to list
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 05:58, Randy Kramer wrote: * Is there an easy way to find such email if they are delayed by Postfix? (I tried looking in the defer directory (or was it deferred -- there are both) and it is filled with 10 or 15 (16?) directories with names like 1, 2, 3 ..., and some of those have subdirectories.) Postfix now includes sendmail compatibility commands so you should be able to display all queued mail with the simple command mailq. You can get a similar display with the command /usr/sbin/postqueue -p. * If I use sendmail -q in an attempt to kick the postfix queue, does that also kick any emails stuck in the postfix defer queue? The sendmail -q command likely does a /usr/sbin/postqueue -f to flush the mail queue. I don't know whether this will retry mail that previously failed delivery before the retry time is reached - it may not. The command /usr/sbin/postqueue -s site does look like it would immediately send all mail queued for the specified site, but it does require some configuration to use. Check the man page for postqueue(1) for more information. Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burn an iso to disk
On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 14:12, Dennis Myers wrote: I don't see where it says to burn as an image. Followed the XCDroast instructions and still got a bunch of text and no files. No joy. : ( -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Make sure that you have a good ISO file. Did you download the ISO using ASCII mode FTP? (this is bad). Did you validate the downloaded ISO file with md5sum? (this is good). Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 file splitter
On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 17:23, Todd Slater wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:18:41 -0400 Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not try this one yet, but the one you mention in your other email, mp3splt works like a charm and I just used their example shell script to test and it finished in under a minute. That used to take me over an hour to do that! What are you using to convert mp3 to wav? I know I can use sox to convert to CDr, but need something to convert the mp3 file to wav. I don't convert mp3 to wav, but I have seen that it can be done using mpg123 and sox. Google for mp32wav and you will get many hits on one-line commands for doing it. There might be a plugin for xmms that does it--I'm pretty sure you can save cd audio as wav, but I'm not sure about mp3 to wav. Here's how I convert f.mp3 to f.wav (all one line): mpg123 --stereo -s f.mp3 | sox -t raw -r 44100 -w -s \ -c 2 - -t wav f.wav I believe that this is also how eroaster does it as well. Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how to disable eth0 in PROMISC mode
Do you have arpwatch running? I thought I noticed once that arpwatch puts the interface it watches into promiscuous mode. Seth On Sat, 2002-07-20 at 15:30, Steve Jeppesen wrote: As you can see, eth0 is in promisc mode. I have tried ifconfig eth0 -promisc to turn off promisc with no luck. msec level is set to 4, and I am running prelude (which I noticed civilmee stated in another post that prelude could cause this) #1 how do I turn off promisc mode on eth0? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux Mandrake 7.2 as a Network Server
Greetings to all, I have a question about reinstalling 7.2 on my computer as a server for my home network. Now for the question. I now linux, through Samba, is compatible and can talk to windows networks, but can a windows box talk to a linux network. Linux Lunatic "The Linux revolution will prove to be the one that will outdo the windows problem. This will be hastened by Windows XP. (What a Joke of an OS)" - Seth Hanzik a.k.a. Linux Lunatic _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
[newbie] Repost Request
Could someone repost the dual boot response that included a way to add Linux into your NT boot loader options list Thanks in advance Seth "Cosmo" Kramer "I wish to God these calculations had been executed by steam." -Charles Babbage -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com mQENAzpvF0EBxwEIAKhmnVduBgYdAWtq6Haa2GxOr1e9S2JbXdfYMuSpk1NsW7mf SalySPT5hVSH6UnxbXC0m2iKCjr15QbHx7SBhpmvh7dy/ZZo7HImISjmBFesBSrw WTvsbEYmrhzGHcS4XV8A/nhwamawRIvA177Ub+70gXGLfmRmJGFMKjmG2vLR6Ed5 YhtqiJnG/y+gUGmj7E0S1VygJNOkKr6j4roemP+1i3peNufARD4O84kUP5Uqhs1/ U5lXFv3Nh6XSYnO6jkarmra5eHRj9X+P9jwDr8gwlXG9F2barxzNq/vT15po8g1j vgy03RLFPAsbumToVpW1HB1iAUdAlQ+WaqfGdBEABRG0I1NldGggS3JhbWVyIDxz ZGtyYW1lckB0cmlzdGF0ZS5lZHU+iQEVAwUQOm8XQZUPlmqnxnQRAQETDQgAkVlk x5k4AK6BSNSmAoQ+d+h8Tufl0Xgi1hD+KKYfaP64bn4c6XO3dBqrDub3y5gIzydl bqUWRNs2L80fYTrzkMJ6YmriJC6LWzDYmG1v31wfJF0cbhXpHHZR6CBu+EdDysA1 rVmzKz0IXlIi7SaWsHKgwEZxff4P2zhbQ7GpVG0av5nLC5MZxG8FNlE8KKYBGOO8 CNX8sTnMvBh+yIH1fRu6zdKeXkTAfWEykh5uRKtpc6VcmWDAkAuerbdvMIJ4iHq7 RVOXMDO9FYsXGyOc6ElPfrfCzqv3qVr4CLlYP1zG+15HadLovJI9Ab007oo3qEKj NyVbxY0w3wNI7Bk92Q== =3LSk -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
RE: [newbie] Repost Request
If anyone knows what I'm talking about please repost I remember it vaguely, and it was just posted yesterday or the day before, about the person who put the line in boot.ini and got Linux as an option in their Windows 2000 boot menu, it would be much appreciated. Cosmo -Original Message- From: Michael Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Repost Request At 01:33 PM 3/28/01 -0500, you wrote: Could someone repost the dual boot response that included a way to add Linux into your NT boot loader options list Thanks in advance Seth "Cosmo" Kramer I recently did a NT / Linux install and was referred to a good how-to that worked well. The only problem is, the information is on my Linux / 95 machine, and it crashed when my floppy went out. I did recover it and freed up some space, but it crashed again. Hopefully someone else can refer you to the how-to. It looks like I'm going to have wipe out 7.1 and start over again. I'm really disappointed that the OS is that unstable as to crash when a piece of hardware goes out. Even Windows can deal with that. Sorry, I wish I could help. Regards, Michael
[newbie] Cruddy little laptop
I'm trying to get a Linux distribution on a cruddy little laptop (486 w/4 meg RAM 200 MB HDD) and I'm having some problems. 1. no CD-ROM 2. no NIC 3. no easy method of installing Linux from floppies. Now I could use LOAF, but I'd like to not need a boot disk. I'm basically looking for a cruddy little console laptop, but if I can get X to work or something like that, that would be good.
RE: [newbie] Runlevel 5 question
or type teleinit 3 at konsole and you will boot into console startx will bring up the gui -Original Message- From: C. CLOSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Runlevel 5 question Barbara Pfieffer wrote: When I installed 7.1 I set it up to go to a graphical login. It works great. But, how can I change to just logging on in a console? If I need to that is. As always, if there is a HOW-TO or other info out there, please point me to it. Barbara Dear Barbara, The simple way is to look under the shutdown menu at the graphical login. You will find access to the console mode there. Note that you may have to press carriage return once to get a login prompt but after this all you have to do is login. To start an X session from this prompt either type "startx" or init 5 to get to your normal run level. Regards, Colin Close
RE: [newbie] Dual Boot Trouble
Make sure you install Mandrake second Windows will force itself to be the only bootable partition otherwise -Original Message- From: Ammon Cooke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Dual Boot Trouble I have 2 hard drives, the first containing a Win 2K Pro installation, the second a Linux Mandrake 7.2. When I installed I put LILO on the first(windows hard drive), it supposedly would allow me to boot either Windows or Linux, but for some reason when I try to boot Windows the screen just goes blank, nothing happens, a Ctrl+Alt+Del won't do anything. The same thing happens if I try to boot from the Win 2K Pro Install CD. Any Help is appreciated. Ammon
RE: [newbie] Dell laptop
try the dell laptops group at egroups. they got my 5000e running (I'm typing on it now!) everything works, sound video, even the lucent win modem! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dell_Inspiron_5000e seth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Filapose Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Dell laptop I really need some help getting X to run on my new dell 4000 laptop. It's an ATI rage mobility video card. I can get video to run at 640X480 but looks really bad. Any other setting I try just give me a blob of color. Do i need XFree 4.0.2? If so were can I get it at? Thanks Jeff Filapose
RE: [newbie] Linux networking?
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Networking/ go here they have some good little demos that got my two LM 7.2 boxes talking and sharing their internet connection Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Khachiki Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 8:36 PM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Linux networking? can some one help me with networking Linux? I want to get two Linux machines networked and I don't know any thing about it. I need manual that can tell me how to go about it and what programs I need? Regards Michael
RE: [newbie] Nice?
SWEET!! I had the daylight version , I never knew a night one was made! Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of -michael- Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 2:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Nice? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- ~enjoy!~ -michael-
[newbie] why LM 7.2 is in some stores
On the Linux-mandrake website under reviews I found this link to Linux Planet where they explain why some Wal-Marts have 7.2 early. it is a different version from the downloads this was due to a marketing decision to get 7.2 in stores in time for Christmas. The link has the details and a good review to boot http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2567/1/ Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] L-M 7.2 availible for purchase on CD?
i ordered mine at cheapbytes
http://www.cheapbytes.com/
Seth
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Subject: [newbie] L-M 7.2 availible for purchase on CD?
Anyone know when Linux-Mandrake 7.2 will be availible for purchase
online on CD?
I only have a 28.8 connection and I did download both 7.1
ISO's...took 6 days
and I'm not really in the mood for that again.
I would just as soon buy it on CD online.
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[newbie] XFree86 4.0.1
I just upgraded to 4.0.1 but get the following error when I 'startx' could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' does anyone have any input? I'm lost here, I tried reinstalling all the packages but it changed nothing thanks everyone Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Brand new, and full of questions
welcome to the club! First Question: I recently tried to install Linux-Mandrake 6.5 or 6.2 (Whichever the case may be, the cover says both) I already have Win 98, Win 2K, and Win NT on this computer, so I bought another hard drive for Linux. I used Partition commander to create a Linux partition on the second hard drive (Both a regular linux partition, and a swap partition). I installed it according to the rules, but LILO won't install. I can boot it from the boot disk that I created, but I can't boot it otherwise. I tried to read up on it in the manual, but that's in a different language. are you sure lilo is installed on your MBR? this is probably on your windows drive I know it's scary to overwrite it but anything can be fixed Second question: I booted Linux with the boot disk, and the GUI takes up more than my screen. I can go to the right, left, up, or down with the mouse and it will follow it, but it really seems strange. Is this normal? ...this is normal it's a type of virtual desktop, it's annoying for most but some like the extra desktop space it gives them. Unfortunately I can't remember what to do to get rid of it, I think you have to edit your xf86config file. have you considered upgrading to mandrake 7.1? It is amazingly better good luck! seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
RE: [newbie] DVD player
I remember reading on Slashdot that at least one company has paid the license rights to create a LEGAL DVD player for Linux. anybody else remember hearing about this?
Re: [newbie] X
This message was sent from the past. So how are things 3 days in the future? I think the reason the list seems so slow is because it is no longer distributing the posts in the present time. Instead, all posts are sent ahead exactly 3 days into the future, or back to the future, as Michael J Fox might say. That just makes it appear to be slow, or dead. message sent from: July 29th to: August 1st At 06:49 PM 7/26/00 +0100, you wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Jim Hogarth wrote: testing Test arrived. ping back, is the list dead, server overthrown? Paul -- Politics: where friends are fake and enemies are real )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake=-
[newbie] How big of a truck is Linux?
If Win NT is like a 5 ton truck and it's Win 9x counterparts are more like 3/4 ton and 1/2 ton trucks, how big would you say Linux is?
[newbie] How to setup new video card in 7.1?
If I install a new video card in LM 7.1 will it's new hardware detection automatically detect and set it up? Or will I have to run the configuration? Thanks
RE: [newbie] Netscape problem
I have the EXACT same problem, and I have checked everything. I am connected to the internet but NO programs can get the information. Perhaps they can't talk with my modem? any ideas anyone. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Digital Wokan Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 8:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape problem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Linux-Mandrake 7.0. I am trying to use Netscape, but after I try accessing a webpage like www.netscape.com or www.mandrake.com I get the following error messages: Netscape: Error Warning: The following hosts are unknown: home.netscape.com home6.netscape.com internic.net This means that some or all hosts will be unreachable. Perhaps there is a problem with your nameserver? If your site must use a non-root nameserver, you will need to set the $SOCKS_NS environment variavble to point at the appropriate name server. It may (or may not) be necessary to set this variable, or the socks host preference, to the IP address of the host in question rather than its name. Consult your system adinistrator. Netscape: Error 2 Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com. Please check the server name and try again. The examples above are the error messages I receive when I try to access a web page. Can anyone help me solve this problem so I can enjoy accessing web pages on Linux. I use kppp to connect. Eugene
RE: [newbie] Diamond sound card
http://linux.aureal.com/ this is the site for the linux drivers, follow the directions and don't forget to enable sound Seth Hollen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Diamond sound card Hi Aaron, I checked the a3d site and I couldn't find the Linux driver. Could you please point me where I can find it on that site? Thanks! Yue "Aaron Zuercher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/22/2000 05:15:44 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: YUE M. MA/EMPL/MD/Bell-Atl) Subject: Re: [newbie] Diamond sound card Hi, Aureal released sound drivers for Linux. You can download them at www.a3d.com. Aaron At 02:09 PM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote: Hi there, I have a Diamond MX300 sound card with Aureal Vertex2 chip, and my Mandrake 7 doesn't support it. So, I guess I have nothing can do unless I get a new driver from Diamond or Aureal? Or I can use some driver that can let my sound card work as a SoundBlaster? Thanks!
RE: [newbie] MX300 installation
download drivers from http://linux.aureal.com/follow directions put it in /usr/bin or wherever you want. Installing the Driver-1. Unpack the distribution:tar xvzf au88xx*.tar.gz2. Change to the driver directory and become root:cd au88xx*su3. Type the following install commands:make install remember to turn the system sounds on in drakeconfig Seth Hollenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: derrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 3:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] MX300 installation I'm a newbie to Linux how to I install the soundcard card drivers of MX300 into Mandrake 7.0
[newbie] virus
hey everyone my Norton antivirus caught a "Unix penguin" virus during download, I think it was from Albert Ho subject "newbie needs help- passwd file null contents" has anyone else gotten this? Seth Hollen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] mx 300 sound card driver
make sure they are the latest ones, and that you are in root when you do it. also make sure that system sounds are enabled in drakeconfig Seth Hollen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] HELP!!!!!
Classification: NATO RESTRICTED how's this one? and I am A former Jarhead! (0352) anyway I still use outlook 2000 for my mail and I downloaded this stupid update-- and basically it won't send my email w/o a classification on it. I'm still trying to get it fixed. yet another reason to embrace the penguin. Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] HELP! - Original Message - From: "Seth Hollen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie@Linux-Mandrake. Com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] HELP! Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Too much time in the military bubba. Jon USMC 2531 2534 "No such thing as an ex-marine. Just not currently under contract..." ORARNG 31k 31c 31u "God I'm glad to get that bullseye off my back"
RE: [newbie] HELP!!!!!
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED type shutdown at the command line. it should present you w/ all the various commands involving shutdown Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] HELP! OK. Worked with NT for a while, and was just won over to the light side! I need help! I have just done my first install, and even though I have a single 256 MB DIMM, the system is only seeing 64!!?!?!? I have never seen this before. Any ideas? Also, from console, what the hell is the shutdown command?? Thanx, Robin.
RE: [newbie] ISP for Linux
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED try mindspring they are national awesome tech support, I used to use them Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen F. Bosch Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP for Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still looking for a Linux ISP for myself. I've contacted A HREF="http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/#features"TCI: FreeWWWeb 4 Linux/A , and have received no response from them, and looked into A HREF="http://www.nocharge.com/"nocharge.com/A , but they only have numbers for Oregon and Washington... Can anyone give an a good ISP for Linux...I'm ready to dump AOL!!! Just find a good local ISP that doesn't use proprietary protocols... all TCP/IP -- and you'll be fine. -Stephen-
RE: [newbie] Partition disappeared, how do I get them back?
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED I fixed my partitions, but it took a while. the prob was using mandrake's "auto-allocate" function to set up my partitions over the existing partitions. it trashed the partition table. Linux still worked just boot magic and partition magic couldn't. here's how I fixed it. in windoze open windows explorer and got \Program Files\PowerQuest\PartitionMagic5\UTILITY there is a program called ptedit32.exe there. run it and you can see all the details of your HD partitions :) what I had there made no sense. so I set all values to zero for that drive. now use Part. Magic and the drive should show up as completely free "unallocated". now you can create new partitions here or use mandrakes utility. be careful where you place your boot info so boot magic will work! good luck all Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Classification: UNCLASSIFIED I got the same problem w/ partition magic also. and boot magic won't work too! I'm contacting tech support about it today. will let everyone know what they say... Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition disappeared, how do I get them back? I can comisserate with you - I installed Linux on my home PC, and now when I run Partition Magic on it there is just a long yellow box where my partitions should be, with text that reads "No Partition - ERROR" across it - Linux and Windows still boot fine, but I'm frantically backing up my data and waiting for the other shoe to drop. "Bob Nagler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/06/2000 04:30:28 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joe Reynolds/ISSC/Texas Utilities) Subject: [newbie] Partition disappeared, how do I get them back? For a to me unknown reason, my linux partition an two windows partitions are not seen any more when I boot my computer.I still have lilo boot choice but when i try my linux OS, I get a kernel panic because I cant mount the root (/). In windows, which i can still run (with only my C drive, the first partition on my disk), I only see my Windows partition (Fat partition of 2008 MB) and then an unknown partition of 15MB(probably where the boot info of the lilo and linux is), and then 7516 MB of free space. In these 7516MB should be my linux partition an my SWAP partition and my home partition, and aditional dos partitions. I don't have a rescue diskette that works, so I can't get a linux pompt in any way. Is there a way to get my partitions and all the data back? Please help!! Thanks, Bob
RE: [newbie] Partition disappeared, how do I get them back?
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED I got the same problem w/ partition magic also. and boot magic won't work too! I'm contacting tech support about it today. will let everyone know what they say... Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition disappeared, how do I get them back? I can comisserate with you - I installed Linux on my home PC, and now when I run Partition Magic on it there is just a long yellow box where my partitions should be, with text that reads "No Partition - ERROR" across it - Linux and Windows still boot fine, but I'm frantically backing up my data and waiting for the other shoe to drop. "Bob Nagler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/06/2000 04:30:28 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joe Reynolds/ISSC/Texas Utilities) Subject: [newbie] Partition disappeared, how do I get them back? For a to me unknown reason, my linux partition an two windows partitions are not seen any more when I boot my computer.I still have lilo boot choice but when i try my linux OS, I get a kernel panic because I cant mount the root (/). In windows, which i can still run (with only my C drive, the first partition on my disk), I only see my Windows partition (Fat partition of 2008 MB) and then an unknown partition of 15MB(probably where the boot info of the lilo and linux is), and then 7516 MB of free space. In these 7516MB should be my linux partition an my SWAP partition and my home partition, and aditional dos partitions. I don't have a rescue diskette that works, so I can't get a linux pompt in any way. Is there a way to get my partitions and all the data back? Please help!! Thanks, Bob
Re: [newbie] anyone getting double of all posts?
yes me too anoying isn't it? David Hester wrote: anyone getting the same email twice?... seems like the doublemint commercial.. but double isn't better in this case
RE: [newbie] Probs with NetworkEverywhere Fast Ethernet Card
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED I downloaded Netscape 6 today now I have a question. How do I create an icon or place on the start menu where I can run it W/O using a terminal window each time? like w/ old Netscape? any ideas? "If Columbus had turned back no one would have blamed him and no one would have remembered him either." Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Music Composer?
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote: Thanks. I was hoping someone could give me a lead on some software available commercially since, at the moment, I don't have Internet access other than email. http://linux.com/columns.phtml?sid=94aid=7619 That mentions some different packages. I think youre gonna be out of luck as far as commercial pakcages. I believe Logic and Nuendo are going to hit BeOS but no word for linux. . .
Re: [newbie] 3D modelers
On Sat, 05 Feb 2000, jerlin wrote: OK, i know that linux has some great grass roots type of 3d modelers, which all are great, (well the ones i have tried :) but i`m looking for something like 3d studio max or lightwave. I read that Houdini has a port to linux, but then I used to use MAX trueSpace Softimage and Lightwave3D and im finding that blender is a more than adequate substitute. . .the UI is loopy but its overall pretty cool i think. . .
[newbie] Help Me test a theme please!
Greets all. . .Inspired by the rather excellent article in the recent Linux Journal on creating KDE themes i went ahead and gave it my hand. I was wondering if some of you would mind giving it a look and offering some input as to appearance. . .a little background. The theme is called Cyber Space (i actually had no idea there was a theme based on the matrix when i started designing it so im not trying to bite off of anyone else's work:), and basically my inspiro for it was back in the days of green screen terminal command line based internet, tho with linux i can relive those days all owver again(: The theme is in what i would call its first acceptable beta and as such lacks things like Wallpaper, preview and sounds. My main concern is with the gfx looking decent and the color scheme coming up properly. I apologize for forwarding it to the list, but its only like a ~2k attachment so i hope it wont cause any major problems. Thanks all! CSpace.tar.gz
Re: [newbie] A new convert to Linux
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote: Now, if only we can get a port of High Heat Baseball, the Friedman household will be in heaven. :-) Head over to tuxgames.com and add it to their petitions page
[newbie] Installing a New Distro
Is it possible to install a new linux distribution but still retain all my personal files. . .ie crossgrade i guess is what im asking. Thanks all.
Re: [newbie] LinuxWorld
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Alex V Flinsch wrote: Both the LinuxWorld and Mandrake websites say they will be there. I just got my tickets in the mail today, anyone else on the list going? Sounds like fun. . .well if microsoft ever allows a linux event in the seattle area ill be there. . .
Re: [newbie] upgrades
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, M Thompson wrote: MDK 6.5 doesn't exist. Macmillan took Mandrake 6.1, put it in a shrink wrap package, and then called it Mandrake 6.5. Actually they called it Macmillan Complete Linux 6.5. The box very clearly states that it is Mandrake v6.1
Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Josh McCaffrey wrote: desired results. There has never been any intention to make Linux perform well for everybody straight out of the box. Tho i think we are seeing that change more and more with Things like lizard and such. . .me personally, when i installed mdk the first time it worked great. . .of course alot of my hardware is so old, linux was probably very happy with my machine(:-D
[newbie] Linux + Mainstream
Greets all! In real life i work at a Costco Warehouse, for those who dont know, its a warehouse store similar to Sam's Club. As i was walking the floor today i noticed that we started selling MacMillian(sp) Complete Linux 6.5. Right next to Win98 Upgd. How's that for mainstream? God grant Win98 boxes outnumbered Linux boxes by a factor greater than 2 to 1 but its a start eh?
Re: [newbie] Cut Paste
On Sun, 02 Jan 2000, heretic wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2000, you wrote: is there a way to cut and paste between kmail and netscape? I can cut from netscape and paste to kmail but the reverse for some reason is not true. . . To paste in nutscraper use your third mouse button, if you have set 2-button mouse to emulate the 3-button mouse then to paste simply hold both buttons down simultaneously. Regards Eero Have already tried that many times but thanks for the suggestion. . .anyone else have any ideas?
Re: [newbie] Quake ]I[
On Mon, 01 Feb 1999, Sam Walker wrote: I got RR Tycoon II Gold Edition from my kids for Christmas. It works better than the windows version. The play area scrolls faster and it MULTITASKS- this is cool. Right on. . .yah im noticing little things like that between q3win and q3linux. .. .Its actually a pretty convincing argument when you see one version stutter every so often and one version run pretty smoothly. . . i got H2 i guess about a week before i got q3 and i gotta say loki's doin some serious work there. . .im pretty excited to see what comes out of next year from them. . .Draeker is sayin something like 16 games for next year. . .col. Cool games + XF86 4 = good stuff (i hope!).
Re: [newbie] Programming on Linux
On Sun, 02 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to compile a c++ program? I have a compiler, and edited and saved a source file using some really lame text editor. Whats next? The --? argument's answers weren't very helpful. Probably some of the more useful options are -o, -I, -L and -l. -o lets you specify an output file, otherwise the compiler will default to an a.out binary. -I and -L let you specify the locations of include files and library files respectively, useful if you have libraries or headers built outside of the default dirs and -l lets you specify a certain libFile to link against. Usually you can bypass -L by symlinking to /lib/whatever or /usr/lib/whatever or adding the path to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH var. So for example we have a program called. . .magic_box1.c that uses OpenGL (Mesa) libraries. To compile and link it we would say: gcc -o magic_box1 -lglut -lGL -lGLU -lMesaGL -lMesaGLU magic_box1.c The order isnt really important ie you could put the source file first then the options and the output file or whatever. . .hope that helps. . .
[newbie] Cut Paste
is there a way to cut and paste between kmail and netscape? I can cut from netscape and paste to kmail but the reverse for some reason is not true. . .
Re: [newbie] Programming on Linux
On Sun, 02 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to compile a c++ program? I have a compiler, and edited and saved a source file using some really lame text editor. Whats next? The --? argument's answers weren't very helpful. Probably some of the more useful options are -o, -I, -L and -l. -o lets you specify an output file, otherwise the compiler will default to an a.out binary. -I and -L let you specify the locations of include files and library files respectively, useful if you have libraries or headers built outside of the default dirs and -l lets you specify a certain libFile to link against. Usually you can bypass -L by symlinking to /lib/whatever or /usr/lib/whatever or adding the path to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH var. So for example we have a program called. . .magic_box1.c that uses OpenGL (Mesa) libraries. To compile and link it we would say: gcc -o magic_box1 -lglut -lGL -lGLU -lMesaGL -lMesaGLU magic_box1.c The order isnt really important ie you could put the source file first then the options and the output file or whatever. . .hope that helps. . .
Re: [newbie] OpenGL and Xfree86
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: In a console run "gears" and then "glx gears" and you should see the improvement. then read the code for gears and go. . .ohhh my god. . .when you realize that some dude took the time to figure out how to build each gear using calls to glBegin(GL_QUADS|GL_QUAD_STRIP) (yah i kno you cant call that but for simplicity eh?). . .definitely worthy of props. . .
[newbie] Quake ]I[
So whose got their copy of quake iii? Who says linux cant be a gaming platform. . .
Re: [newbie] Quake ]I[
On Sat, 01 Jan 2000, G_REEPER wrote: got the winblows ver, haven't found the linux boxed set yet. steven Not surprising. . .i only found one copy in most of the lesser puget sound area. . .Was kinda funny actually the one copy my eb had was on hold for some dude who didnt know what linux was but reserved a copy anyway cuz he wanted a tin box. . .then he decided he didnt want it. . .workd out nicely! Hope eveyone had a happy new year. . .a new millennium(sp?) is almost upon us, fraught with questions like. . .will runlevel 4 ever be defined?
Re: Re: [newbie] OpenGL and Xfree86
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there is no such beast as a tnt driver for Ogl for Xi software. true but in having it at least youd get the free update when it is supported. .. .
Re: [newbie] OpenGL and Xfree86
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Cyril wrote: 2- I would like to test the TNT with an OpenGL program. So how can I install OpenGL ? Is it part of Xfree86 There are 3 ways to do this. . .probably the best way to do it right now is visit mesa3d.org. If you can get Mesa31beta-3, grab that. . .31 final is a bit buggy when it comes to building. . .From looking at the makefile there is no specific option to build Mesa for a tnt, but that's not really a huge issue. . .any app is going to request libGL which will probably end up being symlinked to libMesaGL and its friends anyway sooo. . . Alternately you can visit nvidia.com and check out their linux offering. Note that neither one of these offers true hardware accelerated OpenGL support but i believe the nvidia vel does offer hardware GLX support. . . third would be to purchase Xi Graphics OpenGL Accelerated X Server. 99.95 but if your a hardcore gamel ol developer it migt be worth it. . . 3- could you please give me the address of a very simple OpenGL program that could test the board ? Mesa comes with a bunch of demos that should do the trick. . .
[newbie] Thots on y2k
http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/DeanPannell/DeanPannell4.html Happy new year all. . .XFree86 4 and kernel 2.4!
Re: [newbie] I need help !
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am Daniel Monette and i build linux 2 days ago. I have Mandrake 6.0. I tried to install and, each time, the installation quit cause: Signal 11 and Read Header *** Greetings. . .i had the same issue running a k62 450 with some apps the wonderful and all too frequent sig11 exit. A more cost effectiv method of dealing with this might be this: go into bios and disable anything that refers to cache. If that fixes the problem, go back into bios and play around with your cache options. You should be able to enable some of them. This worked for me. . . ALso you might check the SIG11 FAQ.
Re: [newbie] Using QT
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Alex V Flinsch wrote: The undefined reference in the message is pointing back to an object file, more likely the problem is a missing library in your link path. Yah. . .it might just be a case of typing g++ whatever whatever -lrequired libfile etc. . .
Re: [newbie] Using QT
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Jim Ockers wrote: Okay, thanks for the .bash_profile hints. I have successfully configured and "make"(d) the QT Toolkit. Now trying to run through the "Hello World" tutorial. Checked many times for syntax errors but I still get the following error when I try to compile with "g++ hello.cc": /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o: In function `main': /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x17): undefined reference to `QApplication::QApplication( /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x2b): undefined reference to `QString::QString(char const *)' /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x47): undefined reference to `QPushButton::QPushButton(QString const , QWidget *, char const *)' /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x72): undefined reference to `QPushButton::resize(int, int)' /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x85): undefined reference to `QApplication::setMainWidget(QWidget *)' ..clipped the remainder Any more hints? Thanks, -Jim Ockers that sounds like a missing or incorrect include statement. . .if you dont mind posting or emailing me your code i can sift through it and see if i find anything. . .
Re: [newbie] RE: Source Code
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: windows doesn't cut it... Truer words have never been spoken
Re: [newbie] Difference Bet. Redhat and Mandrake
At 07:22 PM 12/23/1999 -0600, you wrote: Could someone please explain to me what the main differences are between Mandrake and Redhat? I believe at this point rh is using a different (well not Different perse) file system. . . alot of packages you can get for mandrake also have 586 optimizations. . .
Re: [newbie] Books.
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, jeff wrote: posted for fear of being laughed at.. I don't think these people will do that. I know I have made a few simple posts, and all I received was allot of help. ah. . .you must have missed that whole Subj:[newbie]Kernel thing that just transpired. . .
[newbie] geForce X Server
For anyone curious, there is now an X server for the geForce. Its available at: http://www.s2.org/~jpaana/nv/ enjoy. . .it lacks Mesa or GL support tho, so no hi poly linuxq3 just yet):
Re: [newbie] Happy Holidays....
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Gustaf Barkstrom wrote: Merry X-Windowsmas Linux newbies! Actually it would be just as proper to say Merry X-Mas. Alot of linux purists dont like the referral "X Windows". From what i understand, that's part of the reason its called X. you could also say Merry X11-mas or Merry XFree86-mas (that actually has a nice ring!). On the subj of books, i saw a really neat one today called Linux: I didnt know you could do that. . .its really simple exlpnations of some fairly complex tasks. . . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] newbie horrors (was Kernel)
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: call me crazy, I LIKE learning how things work. And if I know how something works, I have to mess w/ it (sometimes screwing it up;-) to make it work better (or differently). I've only had a computer for a little over 3yrs now (I'm 22), and half the fun has been about problem solving. I'm not the network administrator in an office and I don't have to have the hottest new games... so, where do I fit in? Am I just a geek or what? Later -Josh Join the club dude. . .i think the politically correct term is "hobbyist". Hehe, nothin wrosng with that. But i know what your sayin. Ive been messin with computer since i was 6, been programming about that long, building for a few years, etc. . .its fun. Linux is neat in that respect. . .lets u play around with it. if ya really want to learn about the internal workings of linux, you should read maurice bach's book (Design of the UNIX operating system) and The Linux Kernel book. . .both great reads. -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] A question (kinda long)
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: First there is the reason Linux is so difficult for the new user. Linux does not try to support all hardware combinations imaginable, and it only installs support for what is really needed on the system (I'm guessing here). Yah also linux handles hardware communication more efficiently than win. Lots o' 1s and 0s get lost in Windows's software layer between the main OS and the hardware, which i suspect is also one of the reasons Windows is so bloated. I mean it's alot easier to just open a file and then write out data to the open file descriptor (as linux does) rather than talking to a driver which in turn interprets that to the hardware. . .there's a great description of device file handling in Linux Programming Unleashed if anyone wants more specifics. . . Second and I suspect the real reason for stability is the fact that Linux starts in "protected mode" and remains there throughout the session, while Windows 9x starts in "real mode", then switches to "protected mode" when it starts the GUI. But then at the same time, DOS is still running in "real mode" underneath the rest of Windows 9x - which is operating in protected mode?! Actually the way windows uses processor states is really loopy (big surprise eh?). It's like. . .it starts in v86, then dips into pmode long enough to activate pmode memory addressing, then falls back into v86 mode. So its like. . .running DOS but being able to see all the memory without an ems/xms driver. So we're doing a really phased out hybrid of 20 bit addressing and 32 bit addressing, in which case im pretty sure preemptive multitasking is not possible. That in mind, when you run multiple apps under windows, you essentially have a bunch of things floating around in this one big shared memory/resource pool. Inevitably, some of them are going to request resources that are unavailable, ie an in use memory space, or request the services of an already in use library or something like that. Under ideal circumstances windows will just say oops cant do that and wait till the resource is open, but as we all probably know, that usually doesnt happen.): The AMD K6 Multimedia Technology Manual has a really good write up on different multitasking environments. Also one of the guys from the demogroup Triton wrote a really neat paper on pmode memory access under v86 mode. . .i think its somewhere on scene.org if anyone wants to read up on that. Windows also manages virtual machines really strangely. It will actually start up VMs in different processor states, ie it can start one up in pmode, then one in v86 mode depending on what kind of app is being run. . .probably one of the reasons that running win3.1 apps under win9x is not really advocated. . .putting the two together=badness. . .therein being another linux coolness. Since X isnt in itself another OS, ie its just a separate program, there is no need for X to set its own machine state up, as windows does. All of linux's VMs are in pmode. Maybe someone can explaine better than I. It just seems to me that Windows is going about the thing in too complex a maner, while Linux is doing it the simple and elegant way. yah. . .and at the same time its like. . .windows is really specific about what it needs to run and linux is sorta abstract about things, or i guess adaptable is a better term. . .its like one of my friends comparison between Direct3D and OpenGL The developers of OpenGL (sgi) were/are 3D pros who probably said, "how can we make a really functional open api that displays fast, stable 3D graphics,will work in a slew of different operating environments, and is also easy to implement?", whereas the designers of DX/D3D probably said "hmm we need to figure out how to be able to do fast 3D gfx in Windows so people will stop writing games in DOS." The result being that sgi turned out a pretty well built, sleek, easy to use, OPEN api, and MS turned out a rather bloated, not that easy to use, platform dependent api that does what it needs to and nothing else. I mean over in the windows world we'er all ooing and ahhing about the fact that DX7 has hardware T/L but OpenGLs had it forever. to go off on a tangent, its like that great scene in firebirds where Nick Cage and Tommy Lee J are in the chopper doing a simulated night time flight and Cage is pretty much chowing. Cage says "im doing it' im doing it!!" and Tommy L replies "yeah but youre doing it ugly." .. . .although i gotta say id love to see Cubase for linux. . . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Bassem Houballah wrote: %_Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 pop on over to www.suse.com and check out their x server links. As long as your card uses a Rage 128 and not a Rage 128 Pro, they have your solution. -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] A question
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Dan Ferris wrote: Why is Linux more Stable than Windows??? That's a big question. Do you mean linux overall, pure linux, or X? Linux's relation to X is quite different than say DOS's relation to Win from a runtime standpoint. . .there's a really neat book called The Joy Of X (pun intended im sure) that covers alot of the crucial dfiierences. . . Windows is multi-user multi-tasking and multi-threading, and has memory protection between applications. The big difference in the multitasking part is the difference between preemptive multitasking and cooperative multitasking. As much as the windows box may say so, windows 9x is NOT a preemptive multitasker. I dont even think preemptive mting is even possible on a not pure 32 bit OS. i think it might have to do with the difference between segment:offest and global:segment:offset. . .someone correct me if im wrong. . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
[newbie] joystick
Does anyone know how to enable the joystick port on a GUS MAX? -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] The FREE In Linux
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, root wrote: Linux Really Free? In fact mr tolvalds's original name for it was FREE-ix (true story) -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [newbie] kernel
On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: but when it boots it cant find the damn modules can someone pls help thanks, byte did you remember to issue a depmod -a? that will create the requisite module dependency list. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
[newbie] GO UofM!!!
Found this on linux.com. . .this is the way it should be! http://umlinux.strange.net/um-microsoft.html Rock(on!); -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Co-Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Mailing List/Website We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project! -- http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie -- "Programming is not a zero sum game. Teaching something to a fellow programmer doesn't take it away from you." - J Carmack ---
Re: [newbie] editors
On Mon, 06 Dec 1999, Ronald J. Yacketta wrote: Hello ALL!!! I am looking for a rtf (rich text file) editor for linux.. is their such a beast (I know it is winblows crap!!) AbiWord (www.abisource.com) reads and writes rtf files. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [newbie] Linux fragmentation?
On Sun, 05 Dec 1999, you wrote: How can this be tolerated? Or rather how can Linux tolerate this and still talk about interoperatibility of distros? And what does the future hold? Umm. . .well if its really that big a deal there are always tar.gz arcs ya kno. Ive actually taken to using them over rpms just cuz i find them simpler. Granted i give up things like package tracking and easy uninstalling, but on the upside, i know where everything is. . .and i dont have to worry so much about dependencies. . . I think a bigger issue right now as far as linux fragmentation is the intro of ext3. . .is redhat the ms of linux? just my $0.02 Also does anyone know of any good utilities to convert digital audio files (MOD, S3M, IT) to mp3? Thanks all. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
[newbie] Thanks + question about /dev files
Greetings All! Thanks all for the assistance concerning X not running kde. As it was, for anyone else that might run up against this issue, it was simply a case of updating my xinitrc package. . . Now for the question: Is there a preferred way to remove /dev files or does rm work ok? Thanks all! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
[newbie] XFree86 Upgrade and startkde question
Greetings All! Just updated X to 3.3.5 and im wondering: Now when i log in, from the graphical login screen, instead taking me to kde, it takes me to a blank desktop with an xterm open. This happens even if i have the session type set to KDE. To start kde, i have to enter startkde into the xterm. Is there a way around this? startkde is located in /usr/bin, does it maybe need to be anywhere else? Or is there some other issue i need to resolve? Thanks all! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!)
Re: [newbie] Before I start?
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Well, Most likly I'll use it to .. learn linux, fool around with KDE and other window managers, edit web pages and graphics, play games, Play cd-music, surf the net .. etc. I do alot of the same things and am finding that 128M works well for me. . .i must say life is much nicer after a kernel rebuild too. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [newbie] Dual Boot
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the risks in Dual Booting? One of the operating systems being from Redmond That's A Roast!! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: When I think of a windows install, I think of about 4 hours sitting in front of a computer clicking buttons with a mouse, multiple rebooting session and crossing my fingers that it will work this time. Installing Linux on the other And could you imagine how long a kernel compile would take for windows? Ive seen some of the windows (win95 anyway) source and let me tell ya folx, it aint pretty. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] Resolving symbols in modules
Greetings all! On the topic of kernel upgrades, im attempting to go from 2.2.9 to 2.2.13 and when i try to create module dependencies i get the message 'unresolved symbol in:' and it lists some module i dont even use, i think a pcmcia mod or something to that effect. I suspect this is the reason that i get no modules.dep file created in lib/modules/2.2.13. Is there something i need to do/obtain? I have the kernel source and headers for 2.2.13, using the following sequence: make xconfig make dep clean bzImage make modules modules_install depmod -a Thanks all! --
Re: [newbie] questions concerning linux
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: I've got three questions concerning programing in linux. 1) Is their a linux version of allegro out their? If so were is the site? I wouldnt be surprised if there was something similar at least. . .pop over to www.delorie.com for possible links 2) Were could one find a tutorial on programming in KDE? Hmmm. . .that's a pretty broad question. What you might want to look for instead is stuff on programming in one of the following: Xlib (Xt, Athena, Motif) www.markwatson.com/books/linux_prog.html GTK www.gtk.org Qt www.troll.no A neat book is Linux Programming Unleashed , published by SAMS (have i hyped this book enuff yet?). It's got a great section on UI programming usnig just amout everything, including all the aforementioned, as well as AWT (Java), glut (OpenGL) and even lower level stuff like ncurses. 3) Are their any utilities out their to compress sprites, sound fx, etc. and put them into a file like the one that comes with allegro(grabber.exe)? and are their any sprite editors out their for linux? As far as sprite editors, there is SatanPaint, or you could just use GIMP. That's what ive been using and it works pretty well. . As far as a data file builder h. . .i gotta admit ya got me there. . . Thanks in advance, Ian Herbert -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] lilo
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: %_When you update the kernel you have to put what in lilo so it uses the new kernel? pop open /etc/lilo.conf and just copy one of the other sections,changing the boot= section to point to whatever the new kernel is called. Keep the old section so you can boot into it if something goes wrong with the new kernel. after youve changed the lilo.conf, type /sbin/lilo from a prompt so lilo will read your new config. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] . . .that one question
Greetings all! Im taking a survey for a web project im working on and i was wondering if anyone interested would mind answering the following question: When you were just getting started in linux, what was question (or questions) you had that no one seemed to have an answer for? Thanx All! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There,s Actually STUFF Here Now!) OpenGL: Everything should work this well
Re: [newbie] OFF TOPIC !
On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, you wrote: i hear the beast is buying up linux. remember i while ago, when aohell supposedly merged with netscape, when aol was in with ms. this isn't over yet. if all else fails. Follow The Money! Um. . .buying up linux from who? since no one really owns linux that would be kinda diff. . .the best they could do is release their own distro i think. . .. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] screenshots
Could anyone tell me if there is a way to take a screen shot of the desktop or what software would be useful for doing such? -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] MSIE when?
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote: (which its now doing) itll give MS a better run for its money. hehe funny we mention money in the presence of linux! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Books..
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote: I really link the Nutshell book, I still need to read Running Linux, which I will over the holidays. Dunno if yer interested in technical theory of linux, but if so, check out The Linux Kernel Book as well as The Design of the UNIX Operating System. If yer into programming, check out Linux Programming UNleashed. . .its a bit vague on somethings (Qt, OpenGL), but its pretty neat overall. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) OpenGL: Better Living Through Fast 3D Graphics
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote: Well, I feel like emailing them and complaining about the delay in *SHIPPING* the Linux version to the store shelves! THAT sucks, as it means there probably won't be a Linux version before Christmas! We. . .that again is not id's decision. . .it has to do with retailers making shelf space for non windows versions. . .i mean im sure all versions will be gold at the same time. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote: Seth Gibson wrote: No, probably Scott McNealy, president of Sun Microsystems. You know, Java, Jini, Solaris... Yah that's why i said sellers of 3dfx he's cool with sun. . .trust me i know the dude
Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote: That's rather odd... At least 3dfx has been extremely good to the Linux people. True. . .from our (steve-o +myself) perception, there is another side of 3dfx. Suppose for a second that a little upstart chipmaker named nVidia had just said "Well, after the lukewarm reception our Riva 128 and NV1 chipsets received, let's just throw in the towel,", or suppose their neighbor down the block at Casa S3 had said "Ok so much for Virge, let's design. . .floppy drives!" Assume that for all the other players in the video card market EXCEPT 3dfx, who is now king of the hill. . .so what are we stuck with? Boards that are still only rendering in 16 bits (altho according to 3dfx "it's actually closer to 22 bits") and not using AGP sidebanding or addressing, or to simplify: Stagnant Technology. I mean honestly, with what other chipmakers are putting out, did nVidia really NEED to impliment a Geometry Engine? Probably not, but they did. Hopefully part of the reasoning there was just because they had the tech and they could. 3dfx assumes that status quo for the moment is just fine and they'll impliment "next-gen" features when we feel like it. So yah, maybe theyve done good things for linux, but the big picture there. . ? I'm sure to them linux users are just another market to be branded and subverted, figure if they get here first, we'll all settle for their substandard hardware just cuz it works. Well. . .Windows is substandard but it works. . .(not to down on any 3dfx owners, i have 2 V2s myself, but then. the V2 was a good product for its time). Sun. . .well. . .Java. . .yeah. . .that seems a really convoluted problem as it is. Microsoft wanted it they did their own thing sun didnt like that back forth etc. . . Jini? from a design standpoint its actually pretty cool. . .read the spec if you can find it somewhere (bn.com). . .it's actually a pretty entertaining read. Yah being an enemy of ms doesnt make em a friend of yours, but. . .to US its not so much about big billy vs tux. . .its about other things. Its about aesthetics, design, things that most people dont even consider anymore when it comes to computers (which is a shame). We both use AMD processors not because they were cheaper at the time or because we dont like intel, but because their design is quite neater than a comparable intel chip (if you dont believe it, order the Technical References from AMD and Intel and compare the design notes yerself). I think if the situation were reversed, linux being not free, but all the other good things it is, and windows being free but crap, id pay 100 for linux. . .and if something comes up that has a neater design than linux and performs comparably or better (and no, it's NOT BeOS), we'll probably use that too. . .even if it were to come from microsoft. . . i dunno i guess mr mccaul's statements were a bit vague true. . .but again its not about linux. . .i mean it could be the cancer researcher who finds a cure using an unorthodox but creative method, or it could just be all the people out there subverting dominant paradigms in their own way. . .i mean all those places where linux and microsoft and sun and 3dfx dont even matter. . .going with the superior and not the standard. . .or something. . . hmm. . .i sense i have rambled excessively again. . .sorry -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote: Bummer! :-( Guess we need to email Id and complain! :-) John I dunno actually. . .theyre reasoning wakes good sense. carmack stated that the reason that he wants to hold off on downloadable linux binaries is so that they can accurately gauge purchases of the linux version. Makes sense, no? This way you don't have thousands of people buying the win version and then downloading the linux binaries. . . so their reasoning goes. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said they don't have a release date yet. :-( Yah rumor was nov 24, then dec 7. . .according to folks at all the comp shops i been to. What i understand from reading the plans of id staff, it seems that the Elite (tin box) edition won't have linux binaries, additionally, the Linux version WILL NOT ship simultaneously with the Win/Mac versions as originally planned. Linux binaries will not be able for dload until post xmas, mainly for the purpose of collecting stats. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said they don't have a release date yet. :-( oh yeah the demo should be out tonite too! (20-11-99) -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] Words Of Wisdom
Dear Everyone: Recently I have been in involved in an email discussions with one of my friends about OS theory, mainly linux and UNIX Design Theory. Id like to share with you all something he said that for me personally says it all. . . -- Forwarded Message -- Is Linux UNIX? I don't know. But its beautiful. Its rebellious. Its free. Its a slap to the face of the corporate world. Fuck you bill. Fuck you scott. We don't need your feature bloated OS nor your designs on world domination thank you. We have our own visions, our own view of perfection which we work together to achieve without tainting our dreams with greed. You can take your avarice, your hate, i'll just take linux and go where i want to go. today. :) hehe. that was fun. silly me. -- Nuff said. . .you go, stephen -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] It's here
Hey John, quake3 official demo (test version anyway?) is out. . .grab it now before everyone finds out about it!!! yes i know it's sad ive been sitting here the last 2 hrs waiting for carmack's announcement. . .no, i have no life(:-D -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: update. ( you can see it for yourself by going to the console or xterm window and typing 'finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more') Oh yah. . .totally. . .ive worked in the software industry hehe. . ."when its done" is quite a mantra there. . .yah i been following plans and stuff. . .was pretty disappointed to see no simultaneous ship date): -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
