[newbie] Changing the mouse drivers in Linux
Is there anyone that knows how to use a Microsoft Optical Trackball (USB) for Mandrake 8.2? What driver would work? Nothing listed in the hardware compatibility for this particular model, however there are other USB mice listed. Thanks! (By the way, I can use the PS/2 plug converter instead, but preferred the USB on the keyboard if possible). Steve Weltman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how to open IMAP port?
On Saturday 02 March 2002 09:53 am, you wrote: I'm trying to set up Squirrelmail so I can have access to my mail via web interface. It requires IMAP, which I believe I have running, but when I try to log in I get an error about contacting the mail server. I had my ports probed and that revealed that POP3 and IMAP are closed. I checked my Tiny firewall config and I have told it that I am running a mail server. I also told it I want to allow telnet, but when trying to telnet I get a connection refused. Are you allowing Telnet to run as a service? You can tell if you look at this command: ps -aef |grep tel* or try telnet to your loopback address (127.0.0.1). IF it's refused, you are not running the telnet server service. If you intend to use telnet, may I suggest using SSH (you need to load the SSH services and this is on the CDs from 8.1 in RPM format). It's more secure and is gaining alot of popularity as a connecting protocol over telnet which isn't secure at all. I'm confused as to why I can't use POP3, IMAP, and telnet. Would this have something to do with my ISP (RoadRunner)? If port 25 is not open in the firewall you can't send mail to another machine (unless you configured your MTA to send with another port and that port is opened instead). If port 110 is not opened, you cannot receive mail, unless you are using another port (defined from the upstream MTA's administrator). You usually can find out the needs of the mail from your ISP (Roadrunner). If you are configured correctly in your mail program(s), make sure you can open the ports on your firewall software (Tiny Firewall) for the above mentioned ports) on an INCOMING ACCEPT and OUTGOING ACCEPT basis. The telnet sessions may be blocked from outgoing by your firewall (port 23) and depending on your destination, could be blocked there as well. I recommend that you read the firewall-howto and ethernet-howto so you can see in clearly defined terms where I am saying to open this port and that port. Best of luck!! Steve Weltman Network Eng Absolute Networks Los Angeles, CA (I'm running 8.1) Thanks, Todd _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
[newbie] How to do webcam configurations?
Greetings group. Could someone please tell me if there is a webcam configuration (not the cooker stuff, although that might work too!), for a device that Linux thinks is an OmniVision Technologies OV511+ webcam. I am running kernel 2.4.8.34.1 (or something like that!) and it's running fine other than the confounded USB printer issues (but that's another issue, the USB is working correctly that I am aware of). Thanks!! Steve Weltman _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HP All in one PSC750xi printer configs...
If anyone out there is a CUPS guru...I am more confused than ever! I have a PSC750xi from HP and it's connected via usb. I have attempted to use CUPS as a printer manager, and I am not having any luck so far (for the last 2 months). I am unable to verify that the printer is communicating with the PC in this OS (works fine in Win2k), and there isn't anything that I can see in the logs or procs that I can determine what the cause or the source could be. Any takers? Thanks in advance! Steve WEltman _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] argggggg installing software
On Friday 25 January 2002 01:41 pm, you wrote: If you have already installed (with the base install) a copy of enlightenment or eterm, UNINSTALL them first (find all the parts of it the same way...dependencies). Install the new copies from scratch. I just got done doing apache server and a kernel upgrade, and needed to use this technique for apache and needed to overwrite some of the kernel before I could get it installed. To make your search faster, try keeping a copy of konqueror opened to http://rpmfind.net This is where I can search for all of the RPMs in one place. Best of luck! Steve Weltman Absolute Networks and Sales I have tried to install enlightenment and eterm. now both of these fail because they need other rpms installed so I download those rps and they fail because the need other rpms to install. this is utterly ridiculuos. Is there so way to have to software retrieve the files that it needs or am I going to have to play secret agent and spend 3 hours d/l rpm after rpm to find out I still need more rpms. so frustrated PK _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] argggggg installing software
The compiled list of contents is on the Mandrake site as well as listed on the CD it's self in the documentation (Yes, RTUM... :) SW On Friday 25 January 2002 07:16 pm, you wrote: Is there compiled list of all the files on the cd's and a description of what they are for? this would help tremedously. On Friday 25 January 2002 07:56 pm, you wrote: On Friday 25 January 2002 04:41 pm, Paul Kraus wrote: I have tried to install enlightenment and eterm. now both of these fail because they need other rpms installed so I download those rps and they fail because the need other rpms to install. this is utterly ridiculuos. Is there so way to have to software retrieve the files that it needs or am I going to have to play secret agent and spend 3 hours d/l rpm after rpm to find out I still need more rpms. so frustrated PK If you have rpmdrake installed, then you can automate this process. You can access it from the Mandrake Control Center. Since both enlightenment and eterm are on your CDs, rpmdrake will install al the other necessary software as well. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] good 486 distr? (was: trouble installing 8.0)
On Friday 25 January 2002 06:48 pm, you wrote: Mandrake has a 486 and a 386 version as well! Look on the website...It's there. Steve Weltman thanks for the reply. i didn't realize lm 8 was optimized for the 586 (newbie). i guess i'll use my older red hat 6.1. thanks. mike - Original Message - From: Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0 Have you tried it with one of the smaller 2.2 kernels? I know there is a way to boot to the 2.2.19 based installer when using CD's. Is this posible when using floppies? Might be something to consider. My biggest question here is, is it really worth the time to try and install the i586 based LM 8.0 onto a 486? Doesn't that really defeat the purpose? NB On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 20:38, m!ke mcgranahan wrote: i tried that... same result. thanks though any other suggestions? mike - Original Message - From: FLYNN, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0 Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only install. -Original Message- From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0 i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard drive space. when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with the cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this: in second stage install install exited abnormally =-( alt-f3 shows: warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem is there any way around this? anyone know how to allow the install to succeed? mike File: message.footer * * This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. * * Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open TCP and UDP ports
On Friday 25 January 2002 07:22 pm, you wrote: You may not like this answer, but start by loading that most current version of Linux kernel...2.4 (I would recommend a download of LM8.1 and a kernel patch to 2.4.8-34.1mdk). This will be the best way to allow you to run iptables. Next you can use any of the pointman firewall configs from pmfirewall.org. Simple to implement, easy to change and restart. I think you will like the IDS built into the kernel as well. Port Sentry is what it is called. Lemme know if this helps... Steve Weltman Hello, my name is Mario Descalzi amd am a programmer acting as system administrator; if your advise is to ask your system adm. that would be me again. Have Linux Mandrake 7.0 with two ethernet cards one (192.168.1.1) for LAN and the other (www address); also have a Voice over IP (Planet VIP-400) device on my LAN (192.168.1.160). My counter part, a non Linux person, asked me to open the tcp 1720 port and udp ports 3 to 31000, also redirect all trafic on these ports to LAN 192.168.1.160. My installation does not have iptables only ipchains. Could any one comment how coul I address this request? Thanks. Mario. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Basic Network
On Friday 25 January 2002 05:03 am, you wrote: Easy solution is to ditch the peer networking, and the crossover cable and spring for a cheap 4 port switch. If you really want to get fancy, get a DSL firewall appliance with a built in switch. That way both consoles can get net access and talk to each other without an issue. Protected (somewhat) as well. Steve Weltman I have a network card in my PC and a pcmcia network card in my laptop, both are recognised/configured , I have crossover RJ45 cable and now I want them to talk to each other. (both running 8.1, Windows not involved here) I have read the books and rtfm but still don't understand what to do. Can anyone point me to a simple tutorial covering Linux peer to peer networking please, I've tried a google search but not come up with one that meets my needs. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HP Printers
On Friday 25 January 2002 01:00 am, you wrote: I am not a fan of HP for Linux printing...They are not really into supporting the drivers nor do they want to get 'into' the game. A better choice is Epson or Lexmark. They are both very Linux friendly companies and their devices and software work with Linux. Correctly. Steve Weltman Hello Everyone, Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about drivers and support? I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would like to have a bit of information before I outlay the cash. Trevor _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kernel Update or install syncmal first?
Greetings group, I have a Q that kinda has me stumped...I want to install a program that is something that I loved in Windoz...AvantGo (in Linux it's called jpilot-syncmal-0.62.tgz, the app is syncmal not to be confused with malsync...). I also need to do an install of a new kernel (up to 2.4-13-something...) so I can keep uptodate with some security issues. Do I load the app first or install the kernel and then the app? TIA! Steve Weltman _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Logs size...
Hi group, Can I reduce the size of my logs (/var/log/-whateverlog) in any way? Is there a problem with either editing it down or deleting them altogether? Thanks!! _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer
Matt, Considering that Wild Bill and the Redmond Bunch just called open source (ala Free) software Unamerican, I doubt that they would ever put their browser on my beloved desktop (it would find it's way pretty quickly to the /dev/null directory!). Gimme a chance to break outa the fog I've been in for years with MS products and really see what my system is able to do (for far less $$!). (Just my $.02). Steve Weltman...By the way, MSIE really isn't that much better (if at all) or any faster than any of the other browsers that are in Linux already. Why go there? On Tuesday 27 November 2001 08:49 am, Matt Greer wrote: On Tuesday 27 November 2001 01:25 pm, you wrote: I have seen screen shots of people running this on linux and was wondering where I could find it. Any and all help would be appreciated. Are you sure it wasn't the Unix version? IE was made available for some flavors of Unix, but not Linux. The IE for Unix is also old and out of date. The day MS supported Linux, you'd know about it. It'd be enormous news. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printing with a HP PSC750 via USB
Hey group, I am using an HP all-in-one thng...Prints, copies, scans (well, sort of), connected via USB, and was detected at my original install correctly. I am not able to print to this device ever, but I really want to get rid of MS on this system if I can. Can someone help me on this? I believe that I have the correct drivers (CUPS-o-matic script, HPIJS, ghostscript, foomatic, and even the usb), but I would like to know who else out here has a printer that is using the USB interface and is successful with it. At the moment, its a fantastically expensive paperweight, so I'd like to use it before the inkjets dry up and blow away! =) Well, TIA!! Steve Weltman from LA, CA _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fwd: Printing with a HP PSC750 via USB
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Printing with a HP PSC750 via USB Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:35:07 -0800 From: Steve Weltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey group, I am using an HP all-in-one thng...Prints, copies, scans (well, sort of), connected via USB, and was detected at my original install correctly. I am not able to print to this device ever, but I really want to get rid of MS on this system if I can. Can someone help me on this? I believe that I have the correct drivers (CUPS-o-matic script, HPIJS, ghostscript, foomatic, and even the usb), but I would like to know who else out here has a printer that is using the USB interface and is successful with it. At the moment, its a fantastically expensive paperweight, so I'd like to use it before the inkjets dry up and blow away! =) Well, TIA!! Steve Weltman from LA, CA --- _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re:SSH For Win32 platforms.
There are many SSH clients in win32 platforms. Check www.downloads.com or www.shareware.com. Most of the software is trial of commercial programs. Secure shell is the name of one. The site cuteFTP (www.cuteftp.com) is another. These programs allow you to log into an SSH served environment, with the approprate encryption and communicate as you would had you done an rlogin from a Xnix host to another. Happy telneting to you! Steve Weltman On Tuesday 27 November 2001 05:48 am, you wrote: How can I connect to my server using SSH on the client side? The client is using windows. Do they make any SSH programs for windows? Thanks again... I am almost certain that Putty uses (or can use) ssh -- our local LUG set up access to his Linux server using Putty and ssh. He likes it a lot. I've used it in a meeting, and it seemed easy enough to use with very little instruction. Randy Kramer _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sparc install: where is the network???
You need to find out what kind of network chipset your Ultra 2 station came with, or buy another network interface card that can be seen by mandrake's hard drake. Your Sun documentation SHOULD tell you what came with your computer, and it will be specific enough that you can find the correct adaptor. I cannot give you the exact answer because I have worked on mainly the Solaris versions of xnix (on E250s or bigger), so they aren't the same. I can tell you that Sun's documentation is pretty thurough and you can start there. Sorry so little guidance. Steve Weltman On Monday 26 November 2001 05:48 pm, you wrote: I installed mandrake from the iso image onto a sun ultra2. i got everything up and running but no network can be seen. ifconfig -a only shows the loopback. Now the question: do i need to install another ethernet card??? from KDE, what is the device and the kernel module that I am to load??? Thanks in advance __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still Crashing on restart, every time...
Well Grant, theres a little known tale of a Linux user that once had an affair with his machine because it never cheated like his other one. Maybe this is why it's hanging on shutdown (just can't let me go...?)? Whatdya think? See real updated information below... ---Here's your answer Grant-- promiscuous mode 1) In a network, promiscuous mode allows a network device to intercept and read each network packet that arrives in its entirety. This mode of operation is sometimes given to a network snoop server that captures and saves all packets for analysis (for example, for monitoring network usage). 2) In an Ethernet local area network (LAN), promiscuous mode is a mode of operation in which every data packet transmitted can be received and read by a network adapter. Promiscuous mode must be supported by each network adapter as well as by the input/output driver in the host operating system. Promiscuous mode is often used to monitor network activity. Promiscuous mode is the opposite of non-promiscuous mode. When a data packet is transmitted in non-promiscuous mode, all the LAN devices hear the data to determine if the network address included in the data packet is theirs. If it isn't, the data packet is passed onto the next LAN device until the device with the correct network address is reached. That device then receives and reads the data. --- By the way...I shut down the eth0 interface prior to shutting down the machine and (lo and behold...) it didn't hang! (Yippee!!) Well, small victories are the sweetest sometime. On Thursday 22 November 2001 08:23 pm, Grant Fraser wrote: Promiscuous mode? I've never heard of promiscuous mode. Does that mean it sneaks past your firewall at night to find cheap thrills on the internet? On November 21, 2001 07:16 pm, Steve Weltman wrote: Hi Derek, Thanks for the fast response. I am using the 3c905TX, which is a PCI card (in a standard PC). NFS is not defined. No, I haven't tried stopping the network yet (but I will this time). Syslog... Nov 20 10:41:30 sweltman33 ifup: Determining IP information for eth0... Nov 20 10:41:32 sweltman33 network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded Nov 20 10:41:56 sweltman33 kernel: eth0: Setting promiscuous mode. Nov 20 10:41:56 sweltman33 kernel: device eth0 entered promiscuous mode Nov 20 12:20:06 sweltman33 kernel: device eth0 left promiscuous mode Nov 20 12:21:56 sweltman33 ifup: Determining IP information for eth0... Nov 20 12:21:56 sweltman33 network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded Nov 20 12:22:21 sweltman33 kernel: eth0: Setting promiscuous mode. Nov 20 12:22:21 sweltman33 kernel: device eth0 entered promiscuous mode Nov 20 20:46:42 sweltman33 kernel: eth0: Setting promiscuous mode. Nov 20 20:46:42 sweltman33 kernel: device eth0 entered promiscuous mode Nov 21 08:34:51 sweltman33 kernel: eth0: Setting promiscuous mode. Nov 21 08:34:51 sweltman33 kernel: device eth0 entered promiscuous mode Nothing else though.. Let me know what else you need to see. Thanks again! Steve Weltman On Wednesday 21 November 2001 11:37 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Hmm... Thats a 3com driver isn't it. I'm using that one without any problems. Is it a PCMCIA card? You do not have NFS defined do you? That can cause hangs on power down. Have you tried stopping the network before you shut down? What are the last messages in the syslog. Any clues? On Wednesday 21 November 2001 18:09, you wrote: Hey group, I am still crashing every time I need to power down the PC. I am greatful that Linux has the sense to do a fsck when it reboots, or I'd be screwed. Well, I have changed the lines in the /etc/modules.conf to read-- /etc/modules.conf file pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias usb-interface uhci alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1 probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi alias eth0 3c59x I think I need to ask the machine to issue a SIGHUP to the eth0 on exit, but even if I did, I can't remember which 'S' file to put it into (or the run level to put it in). Sugestions anyone? Thanks! Steve Weltman _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] JPilot is not working...
Are there any JPilot experts out here? I would very much like to use my Palm Vx for handheld stuff, but jpilot isn't working either (well, not after I changed stuff). I changed some configurations in the mail sync program and now the application fails to open and gives a segmentation fault, and I don't know where to look to change it's configuration file back to it's default settings. Any brave takers out there? Thanks!! Steve Weltman _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] crash on exit all the time...
Greetings, Mdk 8.1 is up and working (from what I can tell) correctly for the most part. However, it crashes (hangs really) on exit. The last thing I see on the screen is that the eth0 is shutting down (and stays that way until I reset the PC its self with a hard reset --gasp!). I am not sure which log to look at to determine what I haven't done (this system was freshly reloaded from the downloaded MDK8.1 CDs without mods and does this). I am using a 3Com 3c905TX, default settings. The last time I fooled with the settings (I/O and IRQ) linux reported that it couldn't see the device. I am starting to get a little touchy about the dang interface card because it gets corrupted so easily, and I don't know how to fix it. I know a solution is to never reboot, but I don't have a UPS and I do leave my PC off sometimes for a day or 2 (yes, really) so that's sort of impractical. Any helpers out there? I will send configs as requested (try to be specific what you want so I can find it.) Thanks a bunch in advance!! Steve Weltman BTW...I appologize if this email is HTML formatted, I just started using KMail and I don't know how to configure it very well yet. You could tell me how to do this as well if you see that I am in HTML. Thanks!! :) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical traceroute
Paul, it's called xtraceroute and it's available on MDK 8.1 install CDs as well as here... http://freshmeat.net/projects/xtraceroute/ Steve Weltman On Tuesday 20 November 2001 12:08 pm, you wrote: Hi all, Some time ago I ran a program which shows some kind of graphical traceroute. I am sure it was in the standard setup of mandrake. But I can't remember its name anymore!! Does anyone have a clue what I am looking for? Paul _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printing with CUPS
GReetings crew! I have the misfortune of having a Windoz style multi-purpose device (actually, it's not that bad), the HP PSC750XI. It is connected by USB directly to the PC, and was discovered and configured (what seemed to be) correctly during a recent Mdk8.1 installation- but doesn't print to save it's miserable life. I have all the proper permissions, the driver HPIJS is loaded, and running as a service (daemon) and there is not alot I haven't read...the howto, the website (linuxprinting.org) and I still think it's gotta be something that I am doing or not doing... Any ideas what I need to do to get something outa this expensive paperweight? Thanks! Steve Weltman _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow printer performance
Fabian, StarOffice is a resource hog. If you aren't running a P3 600+ with like 128MB RAM, it's slow. It's NOT Linux's system (well, the O/S anyhow). Please try a test...Use the KOffice products for a bit. Let me know if this is faster than before (I don't have access to a printer at the moment, but I have had lots of time to fiddle with SOffice 5.2, and it's slower than molasses in January, even on my system... P2/300, 96MB, 2MB VRAM laptop). As for the printing, all sounds correct. It should be a little faster than that, but it's a little slower than windows with some inkjet machines for some reason (I have no info why). Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Fabian Jennings" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:16 PM Subject: [newbie] slow printer performance I have a PC pentium 233 with 32MB RAM, and am dual booting between Linux-Mandrake 7.1 and Win 95. My printer is an HP Deskjet 870Cxi. Under Windows, it prints as expected - 4 to 5 pages of black and white text per minute, or thereabouts. Under Linux-Mandrake, however, it prints at about one fifth that speed. Mandrake recognizes my printer as a series 870C, and lists a driver for it. I configured accordingly, both using printtool and DrakConf. I am quite confident that I entered all the configuaration info correctly. As I said, it does print under Mandrake. Also, it runs off the ASCII test page without a hitch. But when I go back to the KDE desktop and print a text document from one of my StarOffice 5.2 files or an email from Netscape, for example, it prints woefully slowly. I have gone back to both printtool and Drakconfig to change the print filter, choosing other HP Deskjet drivers listed, but that has not made any difference. Has anybody got any idea what could be wrong and how to fix it? I'll also mention that moving around with the mouse on my KDE desktop is quick and responsive, but bringing up StarOffice and moving around on the StarOffice desktop are slow and tedious; i.e., like the printer performance. Star Office takes about three or four minutes to appear after I click on it, and the same for a new document page, once I'm there.I'm throwing this in, not to double up on problems, but because I'm wondering if there could be any connection? Regards, Fabian
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
The BEST method to learn this OS is to use it and get your own understanding of what you need to know. I couldn't tell you what you need to know, because other than the brief 'I know windows pretty well', I don't know what else you're familiar with. You might be a general user of Windows 95/98 or a systems admin of a small (or even large) Windows NT domain. That means you know Windows, both of them. I don't think that you can g wrong with most of the people's suggestions, but to them I add that you need to get used to doing things a little different, and mostly, use the resources here and at other mailing lists, and mostly, be patient in your expectations. You will have little trials and errors, because this is new to you, and you'll develop confidence after you begin, but only unanswered questions before you begin. Get your feet wet. Download (or order a copy of Linux like I do every time) a copy and burn some CDs. You'll have fun once you get things going a little at a time. Enjoy the victory(ies) of successful installs and correct configurations. This isn't childs-play just yet. It still requires some fortitude to get it right all the time. The best part of all is that you are not alone in this. Write for help often, even when you think that it's a simple question. Look at the archives of this message list. You couldn't go wrong with these people. Even though we have our minor disagreements, I am very glad that they are here! They are here (as well as me) for your support. Mostly, just enjoy the journey and the learning experience. It's something that not everyone can do (lots of reasons), but something that everyone could do (if they wanted to). This is only my opinion and I really have a great time with Linux. It's a great tool to learn from and use. Steve Weltman (from Los Angeles) - Original Message - From: "Jason Ashman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Learning Linux? On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? Regards Gordon -- IMO, get the O'Reilly book about Linux. I hear it is indispensible. Personally I have Peter Norton's guide to Linux. I tend to steer clear of the Dummies series, as they do not really go into the specifics, just generalities. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] User can't login
The system is set for PARANOID...I don't believe that a normal user should log into a locked-down box..I would log into your box as root and change (at least temp) your security to something more open, and attempt to log on as a user then. At least you'll prove my point Grinning. I think that the paranoid setting is for a firewall/secure box server, not the usual user's accounts, so all users might be denied via something other than login permissions only (like file locking or something)... BUT...I could be totally wrong too Give this a try first. Let me know if I'm right or wrong. Thanks!! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: Fred Schroeder To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:01 AM Subject: [newbie] User can't login Hi, I hope that this isn't a FAQ, but I have looked and have not found anything yet. My problem is that I installed Mandrake 7.1 with the security on paranoid, and now when I try to login as a user, it just comes back up to the login again. The only way that I can login is as root. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? Thanks, Fred
[newbie] (Was penguin Icons...now is about networking)
- Original Message - From: "John Rye" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] penguin icons Hi John...If you have a Q about networking and the HOWTO's that you need to read, I would love to help...If you'll ask what you need to know about... Steve W. snip/slash/hack/cut/spinter/chop/munch/etc... /dev/null I have several machines here - all used for different functions - I would like to network them all - but again there is such a proliferation of HOWTOs it makes it very difficult to work out which suits best. What we all need are step-by-step what-if type lists to refer to as we move ahead. I for one am too involved in other non-computer related projects to re-invent the wheel, and much of the available documentation is pretty sparse when it comes to examples. I know the stuff is out there somewhere, and I really do feel for those who ask a reasonably well-phrased question and get a four-letter response. 'RTFM' is absolutely no use to those people who have not come from a background of administration or even worse don't understand how to find the 'FM'.
Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
OK then... As a Linux Mandrake user (on a laptop exclusively), I have had LOTS of issues with XF86Config not being set up correctly. All of which are reparable, from an otherwise operational Linux box. You'll have to pardon my geek-nature, but I don't understand what you mean by "brick"...I assume you mean that you didn't have good results. I'm not really convinced that you were trying to be polite, as it's difficult to see emotion from e-mail. I would recommend that if you have nothing else on this box's HD that you reinstall it from scratch AFTER you write down a couple of things (if you didn't already do so). These things are, video chipset, amount of video memory, max resolution locally and off-box, screen resolution (probably 1024X768), the resolution that you CAN run on it (if any). This can be handy for you in the future if you decide to tweak the XWindow subsystem after it's working. When you get to the point of the install (if you think it is REALLY REALLY 'corrupted'), then go ahead. Otherwise, LISTEN to the people here. Mark is one of the sharper tools in this shed. Just tweak some of the data inside of the XF86Config file using vi, or vim...It's located in the /etc/X/ path. Really not that tough. Not to be insulting or condescending but, if you aren't listening to the advice given, don't whine that noone is listening to your issues. Steve Weltman (with an E not an A) (From LA) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :( steve waltman dodges barkley, jumps over pipin down center court for the 3 pointer he shoots.. BRICK!!! well i tried that although with this version the program is called xf86config dont know why they named it after the file it modifies but ohwell either way it is corrupted not just the file that runs x windows i mean the configuration tool as i stated earlier it gets to setting up monitors and then tells me it will not be able to go any further and promptly closes, (not the exact syntac but thats my problem now i found a copy of xf86config that is set up for my type of computer well atleast as close to it as possible the only problem is inserting it into the appropriat directory from my windows partition in a message dated 09-Sep-00 22:54:15 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To start with, you didn't LOOSE XWindow from your system. It's got a bad config, but that's reparable...okay, take a deep breath, and... type this (no quotes) "Xconfigurator" Go thru the whole process of setting up the XWindow system again (mouse, keyboard, Xserver, and finally display). Choose a different display, and be SURE that the settings you choose for the display are not going to exceed your monitors abilities. You can find this on the website of most manufacturer's tech support sections. Best of luck, let's here what the turnout is... Steve Weltman
Re: [newbie] battle stations, battle stations
Nah. The Suns and such of the commercial world are just starting to adopt to some of the nice things of the open source community, that's all. No reason to pull out the battle implements. It's JUST a desktop afterall. There's like, LOTS of choices. That's what makes Linux so great. I chose to support it and use it, so I get to choose what it looks and acts like too. IMHO~ of course! Steve Weltman (from LA) - Original Message - From: "patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:25 AM Subject: [newbie] battle stations, battle stations is it true the gnome by way of the big companies intends to destroy kde. is this true. are we in for a war or what ? love pat
Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
To start with, you didn't LOOSE XWindow from your system. It's got a bad config, but that's reparable...okay, take a deep breath, and... type this (no quotes) "Xconfigurator" Go thru the whole process of setting up the XWindow system again (mouse, keyboard, Xserver, and finally display). Choose a different display, and be SURE that the settings you choose for the display are not going to exceed your monitors abilities. You can find this on the website of most manufacturer's tech support sections. Best of luck, let's here what the turnout is... Steve Weltman (from LA) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :( i dont care what it is as long as its currently on my system, easy to get to since im still learning file structure of linux, and it doesnt give me a headache trying to save an xf86config file from windows to linux, had to use windows to find file that may or may not work In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:58:23 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line text editor. Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far. Abe
Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
Um, that was meant to be "let us hear what happened here"...You get the idea... Steve W. - Original Message ----- From: "Steve Weltman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :( To start with, you didn't LOOSE XWindow from your system. It's got a bad config, but that's reparable...okay, take a deep breath, and... type this (no quotes) "Xconfigurator" Go thru the whole process of setting up the XWindow system again (mouse, keyboard, Xserver, and finally display). Choose a different display, and be SURE that the settings you choose for the display are not going to exceed your monitors abilities. You can find this on the website of most manufacturer's tech support sections. Best of luck, let's here what the turnout is... Steve Weltman (from LA) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :( i dont care what it is as long as its currently on my system, easy to get to since im still learning file structure of linux, and it doesnt give me a headache trying to save an xf86config file from windows to linux, had to use windows to find file that may or may not work In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:58:23 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line text editor. Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far. Abe
Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
Thank you Mark...I will use this tool next time I have X issues myself...(I REALLY didn't know that this tool existed!!) I seem to create X Windowing issues just for the pain of going thru XConfig for fun sometimes! (Sarcasm and masochism intended!) But that's the deal Thanks again...I learned something new again today.. Steve Weltman (from LA) - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :( that certainly is one way to do it, albeit a 10 mile hike when the distance to the goal is only a few hundred yards away. using the console utility "setuptool" will do a very nice job of getting X configured and running again. not to mention that it's much easier to use and there's less chance of messing up other settings in the process. That was a lesson I learned the hard way. Especially after I made the jump from RedHat to MAndrake. But that's another story... :) -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Steve Weltman wrote: To start with, you didn't LOOSE XWindow from your system. It's got a bad config, but that's reparable...okay, take a deep breath, and... type this (no quotes) "Xconfigurator" Go thru the whole process of setting up the XWindow system again (mouse, keyboard, Xserver, and finally display). Choose a different display, and be SURE that the settings you choose for the display are not going to exceed your monitors abilities. You can find this on the website of most manufacturer's tech support sections. Best of luck, let's here what the turnout is... Steve Weltman (from LA) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :( i dont care what it is as long as its currently on my system, easy to get to since im still learning file structure of linux, and it doesnt give me a headache trying to save an xf86config file from windows to linux, had to use windows to find file that may or may not work In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:58:23 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line text editor. Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far. Abe
Re: [newbie] MySQL RPMS
Hi Michael... So far, I haven't had any luck figuring out what to do with MsSQL...the reason is that I left where the Linux box is...China!! I WAS supposed to install a help desk software that uses both MySQL and PHP for dynamic page updates and other cool features, but I never got that far. One of the "smart guys" there had a problem with understanding that I had a 99.98% hackerproof firewall installed and recommended that the group unplug it from the 'net which defeated the purpose of it's use and functionality. Not to mention 6 weeks of my effort (setting up 2 versions, 8 reloads, a web server, a secure shell server, an FTP and a secure FTP server, an NMS client, and a DHCP server for 2 ranges on 2 network cards, and of course the firewall system with NAT-MASQing for access to the Internet). Not a little issue to me. Anyhow, sorry to drown you in the gory details. There's much more out there to do for more appreciative groups than this one. I will attempt to do a duplicate install on a laptop and see what happens, but I expect results to vary considerably (but this is the only platform that I have access to at the moment). However the MySQL and the PHP information SHOULD be pretty generic, so I will let you know in a few days. Steve Weltman (FINALLY in the US again!!) - Original Message - From: "Michael Hatzakis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Steve Weltman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] MySQL RPMS Steve, When you installed MySQL, do you use PHP? I tried and it did not recognize the MySQL specific commands. Did you hve to re-install PHP or do use another program to access Sql database? Thanks, Michael On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Steve Weltman wrote: Hi Paul, There is a new version (3.23) for Mandrake available from either mySQL or from http://news.freshmeat.net You can get all of the needed components in RPM format for easier installation. I did this in about an hour and I needed to uninstall my current version first. Just my 2 cents! Hope you have a great weekend! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 2:02 AM Subject: [newbie] MySQL RPMS Hi, the MySQL RPMS are on the EXTension disk. MySQL-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-bench-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-client-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-devel-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-shared-libs-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm Paul -- Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] re: mandrake 7.02 problems
Freeman, BlackBox is available from the Mandrake site...you can find LOTS of GUIs there thru the link to the rufus site: http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/ Also, I would think that you're like me and like to save a little time where possible if I know the results are the same...Use the pmfirewall script software...Very clean, configurable after it runs. Simple. Text interface. Best of luck to you! Steve Weltman (in the US again!) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Alan Shoemaker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] re: mandrake 7.02 problems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a very simple question about mandrake 7.02 and am embarrassed to have to ask it but here goes. After installing successfully (I thought)and rebooting for the first time I tried to configure my rc.local file for ip chains. First off there was no ip chains or rc.local. Did I do something wrong on my install? Anyway I finally got on the net and installed ipchains but I don't know how to setup a file to start at boot up.(embarrassing) Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com freemanit depends on what you want ipchains to do. If it is to allow the machines on a lan to all access the internet through one gateway machine then you need to set up IP-Masquerading. If so start at the below URL: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/cipc.html But if it is to set up a firewall then you can get a script that does that for you at the below URL: http://www.pointman.org/PMFirewall/ Alan Thanx a lot Alan Below is the part I did not know how to do! if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.masq ]; then /etc/rc.d/rc.masq; fi chmod 700 /sbin/ipchains chmod 700 /etc/rc.d/rc.masq I also wanted to ask if there was a way after install to get rid of the GUI. I installed a server version and the GUI for it unfortunately "Sucks"! I just wanted to run either console or Blackbox. (Which is no longer included in the latest version of mandrake for some unknown reason) Regards Mike Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] 7.1 doesn't install at all
Are you doing a FRESH install, meaning NOT an UPDATE? The reason is that the update feature isn't as clean as installing "fresh", meaning rewriting your / and other partitions (except the /home data part). I haven't had ANY luck with the upgrade or update types of installs, and will only do an clean install for this reason... Best of luck!! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "pablito" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.1 doesn't install at all Okay, but Mandrake 6.0 is on there and runs fine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.1 doesn't install at all : go to linux.com and check hardware your system could possibly not be : compatible : :
Re: [newbie] Mass directory delete
This needs to be done at root and very carefully or you'll be spending some
time restoring (or reinstalling) later. Know-what-a-mean-Vern?
Best of Luck!
Steve W.
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Marshall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mass directory delete
flupke wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Vic wrote:
them all, issue a :
find / -type d -a -name .xvpics -exec rm -rf {} \;
and it will erase all of them without any confirmation prompt.
Gee...and I thought I was out on a limb telling a newbie (for some
things, if you ask the question it says a lot about whether you should
know) about "rm -rf" (grin).
Cheers --- Larry
Re: [Re: [newbie] Module Help]
Hi Gordon...Get rid of the WinModem. It won't work with Linux (unless you're a device level coder and want to prove us all wrong!!) at the moment. I got an external modem for $50 and it is plenty feature rich that it gets done what I paid for: get to the internet and e-mail (and the occasional ftp and telnet connection). Best of Luck! Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Spyros Tsiolis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Module Help] Gordon Burgess-Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was trying to install a module today for my winmodem and when i try to install it it says Init_module:device is busy. i tried reinstalling to see if it was because i installed it wrong or sumthing, but it still wouldnmt work. does anyone know why it would be like that? What sort of winmodem have you got? I ask 'cos I'm trying to get mine to work, and so far I've had no success. I've got a connexant 56k. Regards Gordon Guys, As far as I know , win modems do not work with linux. for more info check your HOWTOs . More specifically Serial-HOWTO and Modem-HOWTO. s. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [newbie] MySQL RPMS
OOPS!! This was meant to be a private mail...Please disregard the previous. Thx! Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Steve Weltman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] MySQL RPMS Hi Michael... So far, I haven't had any luck figuring out what to do with MsSQL...the reason is that I left where the Linux box is...China!! I WAS supposed to install a help desk software that uses both MySQL and PHP for dynamic page updates and other cool features, but I never got that far. ===snip===
Re: [newbie] OT: Ulysses?
And all this time, I thought they were code-naming it after my favorite author Ulysses Black (ATM 1,2,3 and others) Well, there I go thinking again! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Dacia and AzureRose" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: "Ulysses"? Youknow, I hear it's better then 1600x1200 @32bit color out there. Dacia --- Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Philomena put to word: um, Mark - I think Damien was referencing the "Ulysses" name, not "beta" :-) , hence the literary hint of the Irish author James Joyce who wrote "Ulysses" and that book, an internal parallel to the exiled wanderer of homer's tale...so yes the reference is likely to the earlier...perhaps picked to herald mandrake's moving more widely through the world's markets...either that or one of the programmers has a cat by that name... frank --- :)_ Oo.kaay...maybe a I need to unplug for a little while and remind myself what the sun looks like. I never saw that one coming. :) -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] re: Samba and mandrake
Kewl! I didn't know this! Thanks for the tip (even though I wasn't the author of the comment!) - Original Message - From: "Izak Fourie / IIS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:25 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] re: Samba and mandrake Look at the man page for mount. you can mount SMBFS volumes just as you would nfs volumes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 September 2000 07:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] re: Samba and mandrake I was just wondering if anybody has every configured a samba network out there. I have been using one off and on for about 3-6 months. But there is one thing I have been trying to do for about a month now and can't figure out. I need to map my windows 2000 system drive from my samba server. I have already done the reverse (mapping my Linux drives to my windows machines but am at a loss how to do the reverse). If anyone can steer me the right direction I would be greatly appreciated. Regards Mike Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
You sound pretty passionate about your point...and it looks pretty solid as well. PLEASE DON'T FLAME THIS THREAD... Thanks for not setting me a-blaze too! Slowly yours, Steve Weltman (not able to overclock, cuz I dunno how!) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:26 AM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] NO, that is incorrect. That statement is a myth promoted through ignorance. I've seen enough destroyed product from overclockers - that I can stand straight and tall and tell you bluntly - overclocking DESTROYS parts. Period. "If you buy it - then it is yours" - is a defense statement that I hear over and over again as to the excuse to try overclocking. Once the part is destroyed - the mantra becomes - "It's under warranty - I want it replaced yesterday" BS - if you destroy it through misuse then it's yours. Period. Learn the facts - and not the hype. Overclocking destroys the forbidden gap. It destroys the electron flow. Overclockers just don't know what they are doing - meanwhile - they promote themselves as if they know about electronics. Overclocking is stupid. -Original Message- From: Abe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 7:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] yep and that is also why people can overclock their RAM CPU's without out right destroying them. The hard ware tends to be rated conservatively because it will last longer if it is used at less then 100% of capacity. = Original Message From "John A. MacLaughlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = . . . they make ram and the really good stuf gets rated at 133 and the less great stuf gets rated at 100. Initially pc-100 ram was really high quality pc-66 ram. . . . That's how they get the faster CPU's too. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Problem with SCSI Drives and eth0 on boot
As far as the drives are concerned, sounds like you have a conflicted SCSI assignment possibly. For the network card, you need to run netconf and be SURE that the card that you are using is the one corresponding to the device driver that LM7.1 selected for you in the install. If it is incorrect, choose the correct one. I am assuming that you are using the X Windowing system (KDE?) so the graphical netconf gives you a list of device drivers to choose. Best of luck! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Ellenbecker, Larry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Problem with SCSI Drives and eth0 on boot Need Help. I'm running a HP Vectra XU with (1) 2GB ST3255ON ; (4) 18GB ST318416N SCSI drives and a Sony SCSI CDROM. The (4) 18GB disks are in an external HP1350SE tower. The SCSI controller is on the system board and is an Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra SCSI. All the drives are narrow channel. When I load MD7.1 with only the 2GB drive everything works on boot-up. When I load MD7.1 with all (5) SCSI drives the install completes without a problem. When I boot using Linux on Grup I get the following errros: Boot Done. Enabling symmetric IO mode...done. Enabling IO-APIC IRQs ... changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 16 Kernal panic : could not set ID ... In swapper task - not syncing (the system hangs) When I boot using Linux-Up on Grup the system boots, however as the processes are started my eth0 will not start. I get: Bringing up interface eth0 - Delaying eth0 initialization..[failed] The system is fine all the devices are mounted and accessible - but I can't get to my network? I need help?
Re: [newbie] Can't install NIC's........
Jeremy, the same thing happened to me when I installed Mdk 7.0 originally. I was able to use the netconf command from the terminal window, and then added them as needed. Your first device is eth0. It's all really simple with the gui or the text based menu system. You will need to know what the module of the device isso you can add it to the text based menu system if needed. If you still have difficulties, please e-mail me off the list and I will guide you thru this as needed. Best of luck with it! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: Jeremy Wood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:26 PM Subject: [newbie] Can't install NIC's Hi gang, I just subscribed to this list, and hope that someone can help. I just installed Linux Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe on a Celeron 333 desktop computer. The install went very smoothly. Unfortunately , the install didn't 'detect' any of my two NIC's that are installed. I've had no luck finding any information about how to 'manually' install a NIC, even after searching hundreds of websites etc. Any info out there usually has to do with installing drivers AFTER Linux has already detected your NIC initially. i.e when I go to HardDrake and see a list of my hardware, there is no plus sign next to Network Interface device etc. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, since the NIC's are the most important part of me using Linux in the first place! Thanks, Jeremy Wood p.s Both my NIC's aren't listed in the compatible hardware list at Linux-mandrake.com, however they both come with Linux drivers...and colleagues have used them in their machines with Linux without a hitch.
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Jeff, As a "newbie", a user with NO technical knowledge can install a UNIX-LIKE operating system, and use it without much guidance. Most users are able to find this alone a very enabling and excellent first step. You may not consider this a serious usability issue, but it teaches the user to do many things without knowing the intimate details about the OS. Also, a very important first lesson. Trust themselves that they are able to do for themselves, and that it is NOT out of their range of abilities. If a task is out of his or her range, they are given MANY resources of information, not the least of which is this mailing list. Obviously, not everyone is interested in the Linux OS nor any other OS for that matter. However, Linux has MANY more free programs than any other OS, because it is an open source and therefore low dollar investment, many will be interested. You mention DOSEMU. From what I understand of the DOSEMU, there is a man page, and a HOWTO file that gives explicit instructions on the setup and use of this tool. What the Warp OS hides from you is FAR more substantial than that which it reveals (along with all other "Win" O/Ss) thru it's GUI. The Windows-like features of the Warp (or OS2) OS prevent you from getting to the actual threads and child-threads to see how the process of a program flows, unless you were to spend hundreds on debuggers. I can do this on Linux out of the box (so to speak) with freely available software, which means that the CAPABILITIES of the OS are HIGHER than that of the average user. Which is also true of WinNT, and OS2/Warp. If usability is a consideration, one must address the issue of compatability to the purpose and then efficiency (both financial and task oriented). Linux has a more open, bigger base to cover than a limited OS like OS2 or Windows. There's just plain more to learn. But there's always someone to ask. The worst thing that can happen to a new user is that he or she becomes complacent with their current skillset and stops growing. This OS will constantly change, and forever introduce new and more features to achieve the results, in many different ways, so there's more choices than a closed OS like Windows and Warp. But learning is the best part of the OS. It is what makes it more fun to use than Windows, because anyone can fix it without a $20,000 license for the source code, to see what makes it tick. And anyone can put in their code to make it better. Even if the code is only an idea for a future feature like making DOSEMU work for anyone out of the box. Have a great day. Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Jeff Malka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Linux Newbie Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:38 AM Subject: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user) As someone who does not like to have MS stuff on my PCs but have to because of the need of relating to the real business world, I was eager to try Linux. It really is great, especially for an open system. But I believe it still has a way to go before it can be used by the general computer public. One example is DOSEMU. I am running Mandrake 7.1 which installs dosemu automatically, but not in a usable form. Whereas OS/2 runs dos applications transparently and even a beginner can use them. However the equivalent in Linux is dosemu which - let's get real - needs experience with programming to use and is totally useless to a beginner. As installed only a root can use it. Apparently to make it useable one must tinker with /etc/dosemu.conf and /etc/dosemu.users. Well, a normal PC user could not possibly understand or modify these files assuming he can find them in the first place. That is another problem. There are numerous configuration files (X, etc.) and they are all located in different places instead of in one directory where a non programmer can find them. There are numerous other problems that make using Linux a steep learning curve - which it does not need to be. I am certain it will improve and I sure hope so, but it cannot improve unless normal PC users like myself point out where they see the problems for them. That is the reason for this message which is not meant to start a flame war but to point out where newbies need help, get frustrated and abandon the OS despite its obvious advantages. I for one, though fairly sophisticated with computers but not a programmer, still cannot figure out how to modify the various files so that 1. a non su can start and use dosemu 2. how to change from the virtual directory dosemu starts in (when in KDE knosole) to a real dos logical drive (already mounted) where my applications exist. AGH!!! Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] (OT) Windows 95: the Movie!
Hey Mark, it's a song to the tune of Start Me Up (Rolling Stones) that spoofs Win95, Bought Me Up! Pretty funny actually! Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) Windows 95: the Movie! "Brisco County Jr." wrote: Here's another one too funny not to pass on to the group! (Takes bout a minute for the show to start) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php3?id=1412 ok...what's the joke? I followed the URL and didn't see a thing. Using 4.75. I figured that would be enough to view something with plugins. What's up? -- Mark
Re: [newbie] downloading
That's an excellent suggestion... www.cheapbytes.com has CDROMS of all the popular Linux OSs burned onto CDRs and they sell them for like $2 each. No Documents, no support, but just what you need to get going on Mandrake! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] downloading On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Nijs, Vincent wrote: I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? With a connect like that I would first suggest trying to find a copy on a magazine, or order one at www.cheapbytes.com Even a poor student should be able to manage that... Paul -- If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] downloading
Vince, go to www.shareware.com and find an appropriate ftp utility that allows you to continue where you were cutoff. Also, because you are a student, I think you can find somewhere in the school to use higher bandwidth other than dial up speeds...The ISO image is something like 1.2GB because it is an ISO image of 2 CD Roms. My favorite tool for downloading is called ftpPRO. There is a Linux version as well (although not free under Linux either, but pretty good at it's job and I think stable enought to be worth the $40.00US). Best of luck! Also, keep reading this mailing list because there are some really smart people about installs here! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] downloading Does it support resumable downloads? there is a program calls gozilla that will resume downloads and which works very well. There are also hundreds of similar programs that I haven't used. - Original Message - From: Nijs, Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: [newbie] downloading Dear Mandrake users, I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Vincent
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Didn't mean to bash Iowa (it's generally an okay place for family things and growing corn, etc...), I just HAD to comment on this guy's signature! One of those dumb-things-ya-gotta-do-sometimes! I have been there for work before, so I thought I would mention my view on things. So if any Corn Huskers were offended by my message, sorry. Steve W. (and no, I haven't made my first billion dollars yet, but closer than some to doing so) - Original Message - From: "Brendan K Callahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] C compilers Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit
Re: [newbie] Yo
Sorry Jason...Not personally meant at you...the thread that I was reading said you last and I picked the wrong author...OOPS (never was perfect, just farther than others!) Steve W (still happily tweaking my "inferior" Linux server, 45 days uptime, no hickups, crashes or surprises!) - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo Good old dos, runs so well once you get the memory sorted. I still have a lot of dos games. Even red alert will run under dos, so will warcraft 2. - Original Message - From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, you wrote: Jason, not to be too personal, but if you can't get Linux to run faster, longer and do all this with less effort in Linux than Windows, you are the one with the problem, not the O/S you're comparing. I would recommend a steady diet of intelligent, meaningful and thought provoking conversation, followed up with some IN DEPTH proof that you have Linux experience, and then write something worth reading. I only use Windows (any flavor) because my company GAVE it to me and their proprietary apps run only on it. Otherwise, I use only software that someone can see where it's broke (i.e. open source software, and this means free most of the time as well). This is Jason replyingI didn't write the below statement. I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVERdefend Microsoft products. I used DOS until last year when I relented and bought a Win 98 PC, needless to say Win 98 only lasted one year for me. Proof that when you make computers "userfriendly" you make them less reliable. And for the person who wrote that statement below, try fixing a Windows problem in DOS and see how easy it is, since almost ALL PC's don't come with DOS instructions! With Linux you will spend more time trying to get things up and going than you ever would using windows. If you want to wast your hartbeats getting LINUX to do stuff that windows does right out of the box so be it.
Re: [newbie] Yo
Doug Doug Doug Doug Doug Didn't ANYone ever explain the FINANCIAL implications of free software models to you? Mickeysoft has a challenger that is shaking their tree with FREE, operational, attractive, and creative software. It may not be everything to everyone, ibiquitous as Microsloth would have you think it needs to be, nor perfect (which of course no OS is), but it takes a little effort, creativity, and some time to become good at, and this activity creates a very solid model from which to operate a computer. Not a dumb out of the box "experience" as you refer to it. I had an experience last night after too much pizza, and it wasn't that pleasant, and it reminded me of the FIRST version of Windows NT (then called advanced server), for which I was an alpha and beta tester. Don't confuse yourself or anyone else that "ease-of-use" means correctly built. Nor does it mean supportable. I have more unresolved issues with the Windows NT support helpdesk open right now than you have machines in your network. You can be sure of that. As for the applications you are referring to, there are about 190,000 commercial applications available for the Windows platform (per PC Week statistics) there are about 300,000 open source and free programs listed on the web for Linux and Unix systems. Patches not included. There are approximately 50,000 available commercial programs (outside of the OS themselves). You check my numbers. As for supportability and money, do you think the people in Wall Street use Windows for their OS? No, they do not. One reason is because REAL TIME applications are NOT supported by ANY version of Windows, even Windows 2000 Advanced Server. That doesn't even approach that scalability issue. Or security. Or platform independence. Can Windows 98 work on a Sparc station (except under a VM session)? Of course not. Gee, I guess that's why Wallstreet doesn't use Quicken! As for the desktop user, Linux is the focus of every major PC magazine. Not Microflush. There is no shortage of applications. There is no shortage of FREE support and paid support, and there is no shortage of companies currently evaluating the GNU software model (open source) for a HUGE cost savings in their existing business models. Talk about support? If just 5% of the Fortune 500 took the Windows OS out of their networks, and used only Linux (and compatible hardware), the IS staff's competency in Linux/Unix would quadruple in less than 3 months, the users knowledge-base would SLIGHTLY increase (due to some retraining) and work would continue to get done. Software such as StarOffice is excellent at replacing other office suites. It is able to import and export native Windows files without problems. Did I mention that the companies would save an estimated $8 to $10 million dollars anually? Each. If you could see this, you would understand what I have against a company that is creating a monolithic code base of which none is freely available. Who cares about Macromedia Flash or stupid human tricks? Neither are involved in business in a major way. As for reading HOWTOs, ANY text reader can read them. Or a web browser. Or even your beloved MS Word. Using them intelligently is another thing. If reading is a problem, that isn't the O/S fault. I couldn't have figured out what the authors wanted in WFW 3.11 for networking when I first saw it either, but I READ the manual and the online help (far more sparce than you would care to remember), and took the time to get it functional for my users. That is the logical progression of software. Development, deployment, research, and improvement. It will continue at a faster pace in the open source market faster than the closed source market because of the shear number of developers and the lower entry point into the OS. Forget apps. They're secondary to this conversation. Apps will follow the same path based on the cost and the OS their based on, and their adaptability to the business model they're applied towards, in this case general use. I will allow you this, as a new user, Linux is FAR more open, and thus intimidating. However, almost anyone can configure a simple computing environment with Linux, given a desire to learn a little more than just point and click. There is a steeper ramp-up with Linux than with Windows to be sure, but not much moreso than from MacIntosh to Windows. And the steepness is being levelled moreso everyday. Installing a top end Linux workstation is not much more difficult than putting Windows NT on an Alpha box. In fact, I think that it's easier because the install scripts are written more plainly in the Linux OS than Windows. If you understand that Linux is so poorly written, what are you doing to make it better? When was the last time a Microsoft developer took the time to ask YOU as a user what you wanted to see on the next version of Windows? Feel free to add feature requests ANYtime you like to the developers
Re: [newbie] Yo
Paul, Could you help me? I need to write a script that flashes a BLUE SCREEN about every 90 or so minutes and remind me it's time to crash and reboot...Only when I have like 3 applications going and no information saved. Please help (he he he !!!) ...Big, Bad and in your Face...It's a crash coming to your PC now!! Just fire up this here new OS and you can have one too!! Only from the creators of Mine Sweeper! (and other useless things like the network neighborhood). Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, rebel wrote: Funny I have my SB Live running, web server, Star Office running with no problem. I do have a problemLinux runs and runs and runs, no blue screen of death. I think I can get a little Perl program going, to make up for that. *giggle* Paul -- ODOSCAN.EXE: keeps the Quarks off of your hard drive )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] (OT) An MS Linux webpage!
This is the funniest site I have ever seen on the MS-Linux topic! I almost wet myslef laughing so hard! Thanks for the laugh! I needed that! (Read the sidebar about the Mars Colony! That is way too funny). Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:41 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] (OT) An MS Linux webpage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of patrick darcy Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) An MS Linux webpage! "Brisco County Jr." wrote: Take a look at this page, you might be surprised! :-) http://www.mslinux.org i gotta admit, u had me going for a minute thanks Excellent
Re: [newbie] MySQL RPMS
Hi Paul, There is a new version (3.23) for Mandrake available from either mySQL or from http://news.freshmeat.net You can get all of the needed components in RPM format for easier installation. I did this in about an hour and I needed to uninstall my current version first. Just my 2 cents! Hope you have a great weekend! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 2:02 AM Subject: [newbie] MySQL RPMS Hi, the MySQL RPMS are on the EXTension disk. MySQL-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-bench-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-client-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-devel-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm MySQL-shared-libs-3.22.32-5mdk.i586.rpm Paul -- Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Why are these ports open?
If you have a NEW installation of LM 7.1 and the security is set to low, you will have a fairly open system. You need to install a method to close these ports from ipchains. I would recommend using a very easy utility called pmfirewall. It saved me lots of time and did about 90 percent of the work for me in the firewall I just set up for a HUGE customer. I think that the url is www.pointman.org This is the direction I would point you in for securityAlso, I would recommend some reading on the ipchains, masquerading, and firewalling HOWTOs. These are really great reading from a security standpoint. Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 2:02 AM Subject: [newbie] Why are these ports open? While I was testing a portscaner on localhost(Why do you think I got linux?) I noticed my new installation is running remote login, ftp, and some other services. Why are these open, and how do I close them.
Re: [newbie] Installation
Please give more details for the help you need...What kind of laptop? Memory? Processor, etc... You're describing an XServer issue at the very last part of the install. If you have chosen the graphical install, you have the chance to say that your choices are NOT correct and choose to correct them. Here, you can choose the mouse that will work. I have a TP600 and chose the PS/2 without problem. You might need some other choice for your install to work. Write back with more information. Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:12 PM Subject: [newbie] Installation Hi I am installing Linux mandreake to laptop and every time the system hange on the PS/2 mouse options. I have changed the mouse but with no defrant. Hussain Ibrahim Tele2 UK Tel: 0118 923 8100 Ex: 222 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Linux book
Hi Paul, Marcia...there are lots of great books out there for Linux. O'Rielly and Assoc has a great line of books. Lots of topics. As does New Riders Press. I have been pretty lucky with a book called the Linux Administrators Guide from ORA if I'm not mistaken ...I use it for commandline stuff whenever I find something I don't understand. But the online stuff is really great. I use the man command for things I find and can't make sense of. Or I can ask here. Great folks. Lots of answers. A lot of fun! Best of luck Marcia. Also, congrats on the new laptop purchase. Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux book On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Marcia Waller wrote: Dear Paul, Awhile back you recommended a good linux book to study and unfortunately I accidentally erased that message. Would you please give me the name of that book again? Also, I noticed that you seem very familiar with commands, how to edit, and just about anything else with linux. Are there places on the web to get that know how? Is it in your recommended book? Thank you. Marcia Hi Marcia, The book I use a lot is "Running Linux", by O'Reilly Associates. You can even order it online at www.oreilly.com. This has helped me along a great deal, there is a lot of information in it. Good luck with it! Paul -- There are 3 billion women in the world who don't look like supermodels, and only 8 who do... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Red hat installation problem
- Original Message - From: "patrick darcy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Red hat installation problem Mark Weaver wrote: patrick darcy wrote: i think u need to get Mandrake 7.1 hopefully throw out your windoz and start fresh. this is the best of the best u kow. i have heard that red hat is more difficult to install. and i have a question, is mandrake the next version gonna come with koffice or not. pat I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to that one myself. I tried installing KDE2 on my system a about a month ago and wasn't sucessful in the attempt. It didn't break anything, but I wasn't able to get it working either. I'm waiting for the final version to come out. Mark i think we should demand that Mandrake 7.2 or 8.0 or whatever they call it has koffice. and what about some of the bigger players in Linux promoting gnome. whats gonna happen to kde :)
Re: [newbie] laptops
KFC?? I hope that it isn't a bucket of Fried Chicken you're trying to install Mandrake 7.1 into!! I don't think that we have software for that yet. But it might taste better!! Have a good day! (sorry for the odd humor, I saw KFC and went into left field with that!) Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Marcia Waller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] laptops Dear All, Has anyone heard of Linux on the new Emachine notebook called Eslate or on a KFC notebook? Are these good notebooks? Marcia
Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)
Mandrake does not install well on livestock or domestic pets. Please do not write for support on these installs to this mailing list! But the 'boot' command seems to have a decent affect if used correctly. (Just kidding! It's Monday morning and I'm not at work yet!) Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "patrick darcy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun) Mark Weaver wrote: patrick darcy wrote: Greg Stewart wrote: i apolajise for my last post. there is a puppy in the house and he was bothering me :) I don't believe you!!! :-) --Greg its absolutely true. where i live there is a new puppy named of all things gum drop. hes a little sheltie. at this very moment he is chewing something in my room. this is where i keep all my computer stuff and im almost afraid to look :) Good heavens Patrick! give him a hunk of 2x4 to chew on. :) it always worked with the shepards, collies, and black labs i've ever known. Not to mention the rotweiler I had. Of course I had to give him truck tires to wrestle with! Mark i got him some chewy hide stuff, he seems to be happy now . he did chew up a floppy disk i had though. it was a mandrake disk for installation and i dont need it anyway. i just love puppies and penguins too.
Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] Broadcast IP from ETH1]]
I would bet that your Win95 box isn't configured to use the Linux box as a gateway (which it needs to be). Also, I would HIGHLY recommend that you take the time to read Greg's instructions here in this e-mail, the IPCHAINS-HOWTO, the IP-Masquerading-HOWTO, and the FIREWALL-HOWTO. These are really some excellent papers on using your Linux box as the firewall/proxy. Have a great day! Steve Weltman from Beijing, China - Original Message - From: "Jaguar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Linux Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] Broadcast IP from ETH1]] Sorry, no ping from Windows to Linux or 'Net, no Linux ping to Windows box...:( Shouldn't Linux broadcast continuously on eth1 to the hub? Windows is only testing the broadcast IP from Linux, and YES I see lights from Windows on hub channel 1. If I plug the Cat5 from cable modem into hub the activity lights blink and I can get thru the hub to the 'Net. I have tried connecting from Windows to Linux server, the lights from Windows flicker, but the eth1 broadcast server lights stay blank. For right now I just want connectivity from Windows to the 'Net thru Linux. I don't want/need Samba for Linux - Windows. Thx for the tips so far Greg. Jaguar "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Jeepers, this got long!!!) OK, Lets see what we can figure out... Cable modem into eth0 Linux eth0 IP 24.112.x.x (cable IP, n/m) This is good--having eth0 as the exernal IF is better at boot time. Less confusion for the system. I am assuming you can ping around the outside world with no problem. Linux eth1 IP 192.168.0.1 n/m 255.255.255.0 eth1 set to broadcast on 192.168.0.255) Cat5 cable into server port on hub This looks correct, and I will assume you can ping from the linux box to either of the windows boxes. The Gateway on this interface should be its own IP (192.168.0.1 ) Win98SE testbox IP 192.168.0.2 n/m 255.255.255.0 Can you ping the linux box and the other windows box fromthis one (and the same from the other windows machine)? The gateway here should be 192.168.0.1 (internal linux interface), and the same with your other windows box. There is no obvious Packet activity from eth1 to the hub. Shouldn't the hub lights "dance with pretty colours" even with ONLY the NIC setup to broadcast? Not necessarily... sometimes windows actually DOESN'T broadcast on a regular basis, but it will not broadcast at all if you have not installed the NetBEUI network protocol. If all you are running on is TCP/IP, you have to initiate activity to see the pretty lights :) With the gateway set correctly on your windows boxes, try pinging the internal interface of the linux box. (in DOS Prompt: ping 192.168.0.1 [enter]). If you get a time out error, there's something else wrong. A reply means good things. Now is where ipchains comes in...without it configured correctly, your linux box will not pass any packets from the internal LAN to the outside world. Have you tried pmfirewall? If not (or even if you have) let's try it...you can get it from www.pointman.org and it's free, and easy. in linux, su to root, gunzip and un-tar as necessary, and cd into the pmfirewall-1.1.4. Read the INSTALL and README files to get a sense of what's going on and then we can get started here... at the bash prompt, in the pmfirewall-1.1.4 directory, type (dot-slash): ./install.sh you will be asked for a directory, press [enter] for the default...it's fine. enter eth0 for the external interface, say yes to ONLY the services which you plan to run (if you're not sure, turn it off!) If you use chat/IRC/ICQ say yes to ident. I would definitely say NO to telnet, and YES to ssh, and install OpenSSH or sshd for remote console access. You will be asked during this process if there are any IP ranges that need unrestricted access, or need restrictions, you can select the default unless you have specific needs. Allow pmfirewall to detect your IP. Say YES to masquerading. enter eht1 as your masqued interface. You are statically assigned, so say NO to DHCP. Allow pmfirewall to detect your IP. Accept the proposal to have pmfirewall start at boot (unless you don't like this). pmfirewall should make all the entries to scripts, and services, and install is complete. at bash prompt, type: /usr/local/pmfirewall/pmfirewall restart (Use the directory you chose in the first response if it is different from the default) Pmfirewall should shutdown, restart, and display your external/internal information. Assuming this all went smoth, try to ping the external interface of the linux box (24.112.x.x ) from the windows boxes. You should now get a reply here. (If not, something is still not
Re: [newbie] Problems with SiS 6202 (SiS C86G202) video card
Start by looking at the card its self to get an idea of what the chipset on it is. Try to find a brand name or another source of information you can use to search on on the web. Go to the mandrake site for hardware compatability, and search for the kind of cards using your chipset. You'll be able to determine this with some investigative work, but not too much. Best of hunting!! Steve Weltman from Beijing, China - Original Message - From: "Martino Rossi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:10 AM Subject: [newbie] Problems with SiS 6202 (SiS C86G202) video card Installation of Mandrake 7.1 free package went all right. But now I can only run X-window in VGA16 mode. In fact my video card (SiS 6202, or SiS C86G202, if you prefer) doesn't appear in the list shown by configuration software (I have installed 3.3.6 version of XFree), though in Mandrake's and XFree's sites my card is declared to be supported. Can anybody tell me what I can do? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie] Startup/Boot Options
I have the same probem...Everything is okay except that! I just unplug it and re plug it in. So cludgy! Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Brad Cenko" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 8:20 AM Subject: [newbie] Startup/Boot Options Hi, I have a Dell Inspiron 3200 Laoptop, with a PCMCIA card modem. While logged in, I can get the modem correctly configured by running: /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start It would be nice, though, to not have to type this in everytime I log on. What file can I edit to add pcmcia into my boot options? (by the way, I already edited '/etc/sysconfig/pcmcia' to set PCMCIA=yes) Thanks for help in advance, Brad Cenko
Re: [newbie] sharing an internet connection
You can use the firewall proxy agent which translates packets from a "private" network to a "public" network. Suggested reading for this is: FIREWALL-HOWTO, IP-MASQERADING-HOWTO, NETWORKING-HOWTO, IP-CHAINS-HOWTO. Once you read and write down your specific details on your notes, you will be able to see not only what you need to do but specifically what you ned to do it. This is a beginning point, not the final answer. Let the group know what you found out! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Athens Springer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:38 PM Subject: [newbie] sharing an internet connection Hi, Is there a way to share an internet connection using linux as the host machine? I would like something as efficient as possible and that allows a high packet throughput. Any info would be awesome.
Re: [newbie] Ipchains
Hi Kelly... You will need a dialer program like kppp to dial your modem. You use ipchains to prevent users-hackers- (outside of your network) from using your resources through your dialup connection. Best of luck! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: Kelly To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 1:06 PM Subject: [newbie] Ipchains Is there a way to make ipchains dial (modem) on demand? I want to set up a server to dial and log into my isp when ever we open a browser or email. Thanks kelly Visit my web siteKelly's Vikings pagehttp://www.mnsports.addr.com
Re: [newbie] Network Firewall Question
Hi Paul... I just got on the mailing list of the PMFirewall. I will look at the software as well. Still having some trouble getting the IP-Masq'ing done from one interface to another. Let me know if there's any finepoints that I need to know. Thanks!! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Renaud OLGIATI" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Firewall Question On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Steve Weltman wrote: I use IPChains...very effective, and there's a Mandrake GUI that can be used as a front end if the user (like me) is command line shy. How do you call the GUI (or: What is the name of the executable file) ? WHy not get pmfirewall? The webpage for pmfirewall is: http://www.pointman.org Okay, it is text-based, but s simple. And nails your box shut for attacks as much as you want. The shields-up section at www.grc.com could not even detect my computer. Paul -- We live like robots. This requires nerves of steel!! )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyway that anyone knows to get AOL set up on a linux operating system(Mandrake 7.1) Thanks in advance ~Lance Why is it you would like to put training wheels on a fighter-jet? Honestly, I would look for an ISP in your local area that will support your new O/S choice, and possibly become a new (local) source of information if you were to ask. Best of luck with Linux! By the way, some of AOL's servers are Linux and most are Unix!! Steve W.
Re: [newbie] XFree problem on Thinkpad 600X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Steve, I have managed to successfully install LM 7.1 on the thinkpad. I got a link to a Neomagic X server which I installed and then it all went very well. It's now working with internal and external monitors and the sound is also working. Thanks for any help given. Best regards, Thomas "Steve Weltman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02-08-2000 12:18:18 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Thomas Laurids Pedersen/Dan Net) Subject: Re: [newbie] XFree problem on Thinkpad 600X I have had success with installing Mdk 6.1 and 7.0 on my TP600 *NOT* the 600X though. I would suggest that you write down the devices when loaded in another O/S (such as Win95/98/NT) and you can then check the hardware howto on the web...This won't fix your problem, but you'll know exactly where the hardware issues are (if any). Next step would be to try an install on Mdk 6.1 (or RH if you like) and try an upgrade from there...Not as neat but proves the viability of your laptop for Linux. Let us know!! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] XFree problem on Thinkpad 600X I would suggest using one of the generic video display drivers to get X up and operating. It's been my experience that the drivers that are listed don't alays work. There may be something about your Laptop that doesn't like these drivers. I'm fairly certain though that the generic ones will work for you and they very well may give you a good display. -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have tried to install Mandrake 7.1 on my Thinkpad 600X but the install fails on the configuration af X. I have tried both version 3 and 4 but they all end up with the same problem. XF86Setup core dumps and Xconfigurator just lets me choose monitor type and then just ends after displaying trying configuration please wait. I have checked the manoj web page on the Linux on Thinkpads webring but they all install RH 6.1 successfully. My grafics card is Neomagic Magicmedia 256ZX Anybody have a good idea as to where the problem lies and what I can do to fix it ? Best regards, Thomas Great to hear!! Now, I have a question for you... On your ThinkPad, do you you have the ability to change your display settings dynamically (ala CTL+ALT+NP(+) or NP(-))? I am in the field and don't have my ext keyboard, so I can't change the resolutions as I need them. Also, how would one go about adding 'virtual' desktop space (such as a 1280 x 1024 size at 1024 x 768 res)? I haven't figured out where to look for the new configx command yet. Used to be configx in 6.1, but 7.0 changed all that. Confused and under-displayed!! Thanks in Advance! Steve Weltman (from Beijing)
Re: [newbie] Gnapster (continued)...
I'm sorry that I have to reply to a thread about copyrights in a Linux newbie mail list, but... I think that the songs are available freely to you already on another medium. It's called the radio. If you turn your dial to the correct station, you can hear most of what is available for download on Napster/Gnapster. The funny thing is that you are allowed to tape your CDs for private playback, and even give those recordings to friends (yes, legally). But the recording industry is reporting profits for this fiscal year to their investors, and risk loosing investments if the records aren't purchased in the most accountable manner (via your local music store). So they are proposing a method to reduce a distribution method that can't/doesn't keep track of who's listening to what. That's my 2 cents. Have a nice (bar-anybody-copying-me-and-I'll-sue) day! Steve Weltman (not an expert on copyright, but know when I'm being bullied into buying something that is already free) - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Gnapster (continued)... yeah, but what about the people whos livelyhoods are earned by those songs? and what about the people who hold the copyrights to those songs. don't they deserve to have their material protected from being stolen? that IS in effect what napster does. TAKE those songs and distribute them for free. the owners of the copyright don't see a cent. -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Mike Tracy Holt wrote: "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: Anthony wrote: The password that you chose when you registered on Napster/Gnapster. Argh. Did not know that you had to go to their website and register! ;-( What is it they say about a little knowledge being dangerous? Thank you, Anthony... -- /\ DarkLord \/ That's ok, evidently they're going to be turned off at midnight... another victory for those poor people who have to spend their mornings deciding which Porche to drive to work today =(
Re: [newbie] Linux resources online...Chinese on Mandrake
Hi Brian. I am sorry to tell you that I am functionally illiterate in Chinese, so I only have the US English version installed. Only mentioned China because I am working here! Have a great day!! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Brian King" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux resources online Steve, Are you using Chinese on Mandrake? I tried briefly by choosing GB Simplified Chinese in the language setting which converted my menus to code. I then tried selecting a Chinese font but it didn't do anything. There are some How to use Chinese on Linux docs around but it looks like it will take a bit of time to wade through it. Anybody else using Chinese or other languages on Mandrake? Brian (in Hong Kong) Steve Weltman wrote: Microsoft would only be so helpful for the right amount of money (usually more than the cost of the trouble, and the O/S you bought). Cheers! *(Having fun with Linux in China!) Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Ferris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux resources online "Let's face it: getting support for Windows is much easier than getting support for Linux. That's because there are a few things militating against the development of a useful Linux support network. The first is that Linux is a derivative of Unix, a true programmer's paradise. Unix has long been the domain which you enter by walking beneath banners that say 'Normal humans need not apply' and 'User-friendliness is for wimps'. A lot of this attitude has rolled over into the Linux community. It expresses itself in newsgroups where flaming is a matter of cou rse, anyone who can't phrase a question in hexadecimal is torn to bits, and medals are awarded for answers couched in the most cryptic terms possible." It is easy to get support for Windows. You call the tech support and wait on hold for hours on end. THEN you get to talk to somebody who really doesn't care about your problem, and probably don't know how to solve it anyway. To you tech support people out there, I know, your job sucks, you don't have to tell me heh heh. Aside from that... My experience with the 2 lists I subscribe to (KDE and Mandrake) people are more than willing to help. And you get anwsers that are to the point and correct most of the time. And unlike the Windows support, on the Linux lists (well, on the KDE list) you can get help from the developers themselves. Another example, a few months ago I was trying to compile and install Ksnuffle so I could have a nice easy to use sniffer program. When I went to compile it, gcc 2.95 did what it does best and ate itself on a change from char * to const char *. I e-mailed the developer and 2 weeks later he gave me a place where I could download the sources that were fixed for use with gcc 2.95. Somehow I doubt that Microsoft would be so helpful... :-) Dan
Re: [newbie] XFree problem on Thinkpad 600X
I have had success with installing Mdk 6.1 and 7.0 on my TP600 *NOT* the 600X though. I would suggest that you write down the devices when loaded in another O/S (such as Win95/98/NT) and you can then check the hardware howto on the web...This won't fix your problem, but you'll know exactly where the hardware issues are (if any). Next step would be to try an install on Mdk 6.1 (or RH if you like) and try an upgrade from there...Not as neat but proves the viability of your laptop for Linux. Let us know!! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] XFree problem on Thinkpad 600X I would suggest using one of the generic video display drivers to get X up and operating. It's been my experience that the drivers that are listed don't alays work. There may be something about your Laptop that doesn't like these drivers. I'm fairly certain though that the generic ones will work for you and they very well may give you a good display. -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have tried to install Mandrake 7.1 on my Thinkpad 600X but the install fails on the configuration af X. I have tried both version 3 and 4 but they all end up with the same problem. XF86Setup core dumps and Xconfigurator just lets me choose monitor type and then just ends after displaying trying configuration please wait. I have checked the manoj web page on the Linux on Thinkpads webring but they all install RH 6.1 successfully. My grafics card is Neomagic Magicmedia 256ZX Anybody have a good idea as to where the problem lies and what I can do to fix it ? Best regards, Thomas
Re: [newbie] Network Firewall Question
I use IPChains...very effective, and there's a Mandrake GUI that can be used as a front end if the user (like me) is command line shy. Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Roderick F.Lazaro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Firewall Question On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, you wrote: Hello all, In the last few days I have seen many postings on the list pertaining to different firewall software that is based on Linux. I am looking to set up my own firewall for my computers at college, and I am wondering which of these programs I have heard about would work better... So far I have heard of Freesco, and Fireplug. Try reading up on IPChains...
Re: [newbie] Linux resources online
Microsoft would only be so helpful for the right amount of money (usually more than the cost of the trouble, and the O/S you bought). Cheers! *(Having fun with Linux in China!) Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Ferris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux resources online "Let's face it: getting support for Windows is much easier than getting support for Linux. That's because there are a few things militating against the development of a useful Linux support network. The first is that Linux is a derivative of Unix, a true programmer's paradise. Unix has long been the domain which you enter by walking beneath banners that say 'Normal humans need not apply' and 'User-friendliness is for wimps'. A lot of this attitude has rolled over into the Linux community. It expresses itself in newsgroups where flaming is a matter of course, anyone who can't phrase a question in hexadecimal is torn to bits, and medals are awarded for answers couched in the most cryptic terms possible." It is easy to get support for Windows. You call the tech support and wait on hold for hours on end. THEN you get to talk to somebody who really doesn't care about your problem, and probably don't know how to solve it anyway. To you tech support people out there, I know, your job sucks, you don't have to tell me heh heh. Aside from that... My experience with the 2 lists I subscribe to (KDE and Mandrake) people are more than willing to help. And you get anwsers that are to the point and correct most of the time. And unlike the Windows support, on the Linux lists (well, on the KDE list) you can get help from the developers themselves. Another example, a few months ago I was trying to compile and install Ksnuffle so I could have a nice easy to use sniffer program. When I went to compile it, gcc 2.95 did what it does best and ate itself on a change from char * to const char *. I e-mailed the developer and 2 weeks later he gave me a place where I could download the sources that were fixed for use with gcc 2.95. Somehow I doubt that Microsoft would be so helpful... :-) Dan
[newbie] Proxy Server Question
I have set up and sort of configured the Squid proxy under Linux Mdk 6.1...Looks like it's running, but the proxy won't allow me to pass e-mail of any format (on sending). An example would be my hotmail account would work fine outside the use of the proxy, but the use of the proxy prohibits e-mail fro myself and other users. I have permitted ports 25, 110, and others from the first NIC to the second. If anyone has eperience and understanding of hte Squid proxy, I could use your expertise for a few minutes! Thanks in advance! Steve Weltman
Re: [newbie] Process
To kill a process, you need to own the process. In some cases only the root can kill processes. What specifically did you have in mind though? I use the text version to do this...kill XXX (number of the PID). this is very effective and removes most cases of child threads. Let us know more specifically what you are trying to do. Thanks!! Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "RJS II" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Process On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, you wrote: How Do you kill a process and view them, I need multiple answers If you are referring to viewing the processes and being able to kill them. I use Task Manager in the applications | monitoring menu. Nice interface for viewing and simple right clicking to kill. Later, Rob Saul
Re: [newbie] X-Window display settings.SOLVED (Almost)
This works! I played with the xconf utility (text-based one) and it makes the user go thru the process of choosing mice, keyboards, monitors (or defining one) video cards (or again defining one, and software probing), and finally display parameters... Oh, this is not the same machine as my laptop...its an HP vectra with an MGA Matrox G200 8MB chipset in it. Please don't be confused that I changed the thread (sorry in advance). Well, I blew up X on my first try and had to telnet into the box from another workstation (good thing I loaded network utilities!) and renamed the XF86Config file to .old so I could get back into the now panicking machine, and thru telnet reonfigured the X window system again (this time correctly, more or less). Virtual desktop, additional screen sizes, etc...COOOL!! I can do this stuff! One remaining puzzle, and this is the money question. I can't get HP OpenView to display totally correctly locally (which is the reason I have the Linux installed in the first place). All that is wrong is that the color to some of the objects flashes correct colors initially, but falls through to the default colors (grey) and this identifies the status of the underlying object. Is this a color depth issue, or something else? I have set the depth to 16 bits to avoid overdriving things too much (per the reccomendations of the linux-newbie.org website XF86 configs page... ), running max monitor resolution of 1280x1024 @ 76hz. I haven't tried upping the depth, because I ran out of time last time, but I will try it and report back... Thanks again Matt and group! Steve Weltman wrote: Thank you Matt! I appreciate your rapid response. I will attempt this in the next day or so and let you know what I found about my machine. Again, thanks for the rapid response. Steve Weltman "Brash, Matthew" wrote: Steve, I'm on my windows machine at work, so I don't know the exact details of the config file, but in your /etc/X11 directory there is a file called XF86Config or XF86Config.4 or -4 for X version 4.0 Inside this file (use a text editor) there is a section for the colour depth and screen modes, etc... I believe it's in a section called "Screen"... anyway, there's a couple subsections called "Display". In this you can change the "Viewport" if there is one. If there isn't, adding "Viewport" (without the quotes) and then the ration you want like 1 0 or 2 0, then you should get a virtual sized desktop the next time you restart X. As for the colour depth, before those "Display" subsections, add the line DefaultColorDepth 24 or 32 or whatever depth you want as default. I'm sorry that this is very wordy and very confusing. I should look up a config file for you... #--- Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "3Dfx Interactive Voodoo3" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultColorDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1152x864" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubSection EndSection # This is just an example... see above where it says "ViewPort 0 0"... that's the virtual desktop of NONE, so there is no virtual desktop. If you already have that line - experiment with it... even try commenting it out. Good Luck. Matt -Original Message- From: Steve Weltman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:33 PM To: Newbie List Subject: [newbie] X-Window display settings Hi...I have a IBM TP600 running Mandrake 7.02, 96MB RAM, 6GB HD, 2M video ram, 1024X764X16million colors (24 bit) without difficulties, unsure of other details...but I can check if asked specifically... I am looking to see if there's a way to increase the number of colors (color depth?) so that I can display HP OpenView correctly. Some of the icons appear black as opposed to colored. Also, I can't find any settings to allow a "virtual" desktop type of sizing arrangement. I need a larger display area, because the NMS display wants to use something like 1152X860 or close to that. I know that this sounds too "windoz-ish", but I am new at Linux, but starting to really enjoy what it can do (and fixing whatever I can, that it cannot currently). Thanks for your time!! Steve Weltman
[newbie] X-Window display settings
Hi...I have a IBM TP600 running Mandrake 7.02, 96MB RAM, 6GB HD, 2M video ram, 1024X764X16million colors (24 bit) without difficulties, unsure of other details...but I can check if asked specifically... I am looking to see if there's a way to increase the number of colors (color depth?) so that I can display HP OpenView correctly. Some of the icons appear black as opposed to colored. Also, I can't find any settings to allow a "virtual" desktop type of sizing arrangement. I need a larger display area, because the NMS display wants to use something like 1152X860 or close to that. I know that this sounds too "windoz-ish", but I am new at Linux, but starting to really enjoy what it can do (and fixing whatever I can, that it cannot currently). Thanks for your time!! Steve Weltman
Re: [newbie] X-Window display settings
Thank you Matt! I appreciate your rapid response. I will attempt this in the next day or so and let you know what I found about my machine. Again, thanks for the rapid response. Steve Weltman "Brash, Matthew" wrote: Steve, I'm on my windows machine at work, so I don't know the exact details of the config file, but in your /etc/X11 directory there is a file called XF86Config or XF86Config.4 or -4 for X version 4.0 Inside this file (use a text editor) there is a section for the colour depth and screen modes, etc... I believe it's in a section called "Screen"... anyway, there's a couple subsections called "Display". In this you can change the "Viewport" if there is one. If there isn't, adding "Viewport" (without the quotes) and then the ration you want like 1 0 or 2 0, then you should get a virtual sized desktop the next time you restart X. As for the colour depth, before those "Display" subsections, add the line DefaultColorDepth 24 or 32 or whatever depth you want as default. I'm sorry that this is very wordy and very confusing. I should look up a config file for you... #--- Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "3Dfx Interactive Voodoo3" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultColorDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1152x864" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubSection EndSection # This is just an example... see above where it says "ViewPort 0 0"... that's the virtual desktop of NONE, so there is no virtual desktop. If you already have that line - experiment with it... even try commenting it out. Good Luck. Matt -Original Message- From: Steve Weltman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:33 PM To: Newbie List Subject: [newbie] X-Window display settings Hi...I have a IBM TP600 running Mandrake 7.02, 96MB RAM, 6GB HD, 2M video ram, 1024X764X16million colors (24 bit) without difficulties, unsure of other details...but I can check if asked specifically... I am looking to see if there's a way to increase the number of colors (color depth?) so that I can display HP OpenView correctly. Some of the icons appear black as opposed to colored. Also, I can't find any settings to allow a "virtual" desktop type of sizing arrangement. I need a larger display area, because the NMS display wants to use something like 1152X860 or close to that. I know that this sounds too "windoz-ish", but I am new at Linux, but starting to really enjoy what it can do (and fixing whatever I can, that it cannot currently). Thanks for your time!! Steve Weltman
Re: [newbie] courtesy implied in this list?
SHUT UP ALREADY!!! bascule wrote: regarding 'run-on sentences' and the implicit assumption of courtesy, the minor flame fest that briefly sputtered upon my publicly thanking a contributor to this list surprised me, true, i did not quote any of the pleasing previous answer since no quote was necessary, it was a thankyou after all. as for courtesy being implied, well that's a nice idea but (and here i digress but i'm sure that readers will be tolerant) the reason i teach my child politeness is not -and i have explained this to her- because the individual rules or words involved are particularly meaningful, but rather, that the effort to follow them ensures thought takes place concerning ones actions and speech, i hardly need point out what can happen in the world when actions and speech are not preceded by thought (though of course mere thoughtfulness is not always enough), to return, perhaps i have thoughtlessly broached some rule of the list that i am unaware of, if so then i humbly apologise, as a newbie in general terms as well as linux in particular i would welcome any polite instruction on the matter. however, surely if every message posted were to fully quote the previous than any thread of great length becomes a serious download for plain old 56k users like me. clearly most people choose what to quote and how much, this is presumably done on the need for clear communication and can sometimes take into account the intended recipient. as i attempted to point out in the other thread on this list, not all conversations are intelligible if one enters in the middle, i for one delete messages that i can not respond to and do not hold info i need, therefore i often read missives that hold little meaning for me, this has yet to annoy me. the (relatively) anonymous mailing list has strong psychological differences to a conversation 'in the flesh', anger is more quickly aroused and more quickly returned, i strive to avoid this and, i like to hope, usually succeed. of course, no-one is perfect and perhaps this post is evidence of that, it's certainly not very linux related, but linux is a part of life and i like my life happy and wish the same for all, (almost a non sequitur but not quite). for readers who wonder what this post is about, i apologise again, the truth is, i feel slighted by a previous post(s) and i'm not exactly sure why, this epistle is the result. feel free to burn effigies of me if you have been annoyed by this, i am 5'8 in old money, chubby, a tad plain and i have long hair if that helps. bascule
