Re: [newbie] [OT] usb electric shock while connecting is shutting down computer
from your description it would appear you have a grounding problem with your pc, or a defective hard drive. the electric flash as you plug it in (before the system can recognize/initialize it) should not be a control signal per se, but rather is likely extraneous current that improper grounding is letting reach circuitry it shouldn't. On Apr 6, 2005 6:23 AM, Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i plug in my new Data-Tec D350U USB 2 external harddisk, i see a small electric flash which can cause my PC to shutdown instantly. i know USB is powered, carrying a small voltage, so the flash is not unexpected. also as it is used to send control signals i can understand that it powers down my PC. but it is risky for my data, so i would like to know if others saw that happen too. kind regards philippe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] usb electric shock while connecting is shutting down computer
assuming (i know that's a dangerous practice) the case/motherboard/power supply are all properly designed, the grounding will be builtin such that you really don't have to worry about it, but here are some things to look for: the power supply will have a black wire as part of its wiring harness for each connector; this will be the grounding lead that keeps the power common with the surrounding metal so those flashes are dissipated before they can do damage. about the only things you can check on the motherboard are that the mounting screws are tight/snug, and that all cards/connectors are firmly seated. the case is basically the same as the motherboard in this particular scenario, in that the only things to check are the tightness of the mounting hardware and any connectors to indicator lights/usb/firewire/com/lp/etc plugs. On Apr 6, 2005 7:06 AM, Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Mecklin wrote: from your description it would appear you have a grounding problem with your pc, or a defective hard drive. the electric flash as you plug it in (before the system can recognize/initialize it) should not be a control signal per se, but rather is likely extraneous current that improper grounding is letting reach circuitry it shouldn't. that is possible. do you connect the case of your PC to the power unit ? could the grounding problem be on the side of the harddisk enclosure ? i really don't understand these simple electrical issues. kind regards philippe -- On Apr 6, 2005 6:23 AM, Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i plug in my new Data-Tec D350U USB 2 external harddisk, i see a small electric flash which can cause my PC to shutdown instantly. i know USB is powered, carrying a small voltage, so the flash is not unexpected. also as it is used to send control signals i can understand that it powers down my PC. but it is risky for my data, so i would like to know if others saw that happen too. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
gee, i wonder how he really feels? he shouldn't be so reluctant to voice his opinions; he leaves so much in doubt about his true emotions. on a more serious note, it might be interesting to know his actual reasons for his opinion; perhaps he'll enlighten us, though i get the impression he merely wanted to vent without looking for knowledge/help to fix the real/perceived problems. oh well. On Apr 1, 2005 10:32 AM, Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:27:49 up 15:09, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.25, 0.26 ** O que não se pode falar, deve-se calar. Ludwing Wittgenstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cd into file
in addition to the other suggestions, prefacing the space with a \
(ie Linux\ Stuff) when you reference it should make it available.
also, enclosing anything with spaces in it in single or double quotes
('/home/rosemary/Linux Stuff/rpms') should also allow access.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:57:01 +0200, Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 27 March 2005 22:42, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
I am feeling particularly stupid and frustrated just now. I
downloaded some files in preparation for installing gwenview. I
saved them to /home/rosemary/Linux Stuff/rpms - now I can't cd
into it, tells me no such file or directory. Thought I would
rename it, but same problem. I don't want to have to do the
downloads again. I've not had this problem before. I can see
the rpms in konqueror and that is the path it gives. It seems
simple but I am stumped. Wondered if it doesn't like the Linux
Stuff name?
Rosemary
Did you create that Linux Stuff directory in Konqueror ?
If so, the command shell probably won't see it. The shell doesn't
like spaces in file names.
You could try to rename that directory to i.e. Linux_Stuff or some
such.
HTH
Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] configuring advx (apache) on Mandrake
thanks greg thanks derek On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:32:53 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 March 2005 02:45, Joe wrote: Dear all, is there anyway i can configure ADVX on Mandrake easily without going through it's many conf files and without using webmin? is there a gui based, wizard based or something??? i have a problem setting up vitual host (name host not ip host). i downloaded apache docs but unfortunately Mandrake uses the modified version of apache which left me hanging like a dry leave. SNIP Setting up virtual hosts is easy. In /etc/httpd/2.0/conf/vhosts/Vhosts.conf for each virtual host insert a stanza in the format VirtualHost www.myvirtualhost.net ServerName www.myvirtualhost.net ServerAlias myvirtualhost.net *.myvirtualhost.net #ServerPath /domain DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myvirtualhost /VirtualHost then restart the httpd service. Done! Naturally the virtual hostname must resolve to your IP address. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] configuring advx (apache) on Mandrake
cool website there Derek... dynamic DNS eh? cool stuff... On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:32:53 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 March 2005 02:45, Joe wrote: Dear all, is there anyway i can configure ADVX on Mandrake easily without going through it's many conf files and without using webmin? is there a gui based, wizard based or something??? i have a problem setting up vitual host (name host not ip host). i downloaded apache docs but unfortunately Mandrake uses the modified version of apache which left me hanging like a dry leave. SNIP Setting up virtual hosts is easy. In /etc/httpd/2.0/conf/vhosts/Vhosts.conf for each virtual host insert a stanza in the format VirtualHost www.myvirtualhost.net ServerName www.myvirtualhost.net ServerAlias myvirtualhost.net *.myvirtualhost.net #ServerPath /domain DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myvirtualhost /VirtualHost then restart the httpd service. Done! Naturally the virtual hostname must resolve to your IP address. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] configuring advx (apache) on Mandrake
Dear all, is there anyway i can configure ADVX on Mandrake easily without going through it's many conf files and without using webmin? is there a gui based, wizard based or something??? i have a problem setting up vitual host (name host not ip host). i downloaded apache docs but unfortunately Mandrake uses the modified version of apache which left me hanging like a dry leave. May I make some suggestions to all nice developers out there who sacrifice their time to OpenSource software... 1. At the same time during development, create an easy to read and follow on how to set up and use the particular software for beginners. 2. Create a wizard systen or step-step procedure to set up the software. Just a basic setup will do. For advance settings, users should read the manual and tinker with the conf file themselves. about a week ago, exactly 40 days after I installed Mandrake Linux on all this small office PC, they asked me to removed Mandrake, except server, and install Windows XP. Reasons, except to type letters browse the net, users unable to modified certain settings because it's hard to do so and there's no easy way to do it. i am sad but passe is passe. Thanks Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found PROBLEM SOLVED
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: The directoryies /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are not normaly in a user's path. They are in root's path when you log in as root, or when you su - to root. Normaly, when you do su instead of su -, you keep the same path. But in Mandrake 10.1, when ever root opens a shell, the path is set to fixed path by /root/.bashrc. So you may want to check the .bashrc file in /root to be sure it is correct. Mikkel Problem solved! Never used su - before, but when I did, echo $PATH reported: /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin URPMI works (again). \ Thanks to all for the help. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
bascule wrote: have you checked your path? echo $PATH try the full path to urpmi /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/sbin/urpmi urpmi version 4.5 Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Mandrakesoft. This is free software and may be redistributed under the terms of the GNU GPL. usage: --help - print this help message. I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to it. Thanks for the help Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
RickSisler wrote:
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
bascule wrote:
have you checked your path?
echo $PATH
try the full path to urpmi
/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path
Joe,
the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type::
# echo $PATH
I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to
it.
if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc ..
did you try what bascule mentions:
try the full path to urpmi
# /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
I did, and like magic, urpmi worked.
The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or
how should I edit my bashrc so that it is.
Here is what i get from echo $PATH:
echo $PATH
/usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin
I had a look at /etc/bashrc, it's not really well documented (at least i
had trouble following it). Here it is if anyone is interested:
# /etc/bashrc
# System wide functions and aliases
# Environment stuff goes in /etc/profile
# by default, we want this to get set.
# Even for non-interactive, non-login shells.
if [ `id -gn` = `id -un` -a `id -u` -gt 99 ]; then
umask 002
else
umask 022
fi
# are we an interactive shell?
if [ $PS1 ]; then
case $TERM in
xterm*)
PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne \033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007'
;;
*)
;;
esac
[ $PS1 = \\s-\\v\\\$ ] PS1=[EMAIL PROTECTED] \W]\\$
if [ -z $loginsh ]; then # We're not a login shell
for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
if [ -x $i ]; then
. $i
fi
done
fi
fi
unset lo
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[newbie] urpmi: command not found
Anyone have an idea why urpmi stopped working? Mandrake 10.1 official. Been using it sucsessfully for quite a while now. urpmi shows up in rpmdrake, I apparently sucessfully (re)-installed it. Yet i get [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels bash: urpmi: command not found Googling has thus far been unenlightening. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Jan 26, Richard Urwin did say: I may be way behind the boat here, but it sounds like the entry in /etc/hosts for 127.0.0.1 does not use the same hostname as you have selected for your machine. Please pardon the delay in my response I allowed my personal life to intrude and didn't get to use my computer (except to efile) for about a month... I saw in another thread some very good reasons to do a clean install (my original choice anyway) over updating even upgrading mdk 9.1, never mind 8.2... the things with udev were sufficient for me to return my focus toward a clean install... Which I have accomplished! In any case thank you one and all for the helpful suggestions. # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 6C2163DE # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCH1qrRZ/61mwhY94RAnL8AKCCNu1bSUoLMJrPrAcA3GqU5DMcWgCfVcIf NaDO+5JZ75P4TCFeIxQlhZg= =NOXZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: new MDK installs get to reboot in rw mode then PERMISSION DENIED
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It would appear that on Jan 26, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook did say to et:
IF however, somebody is willing to try to help me debug the problem I
experienced when I tried to do a clean install from the powerpack cd set
of MDK 10.1, I will cheerfully clear out my live storage archive space
on the partition I normally mount at /theBigTmp (I've had temporarily
restored linux systems {slackware 8.0, Redhat 9, MDK 8.2} boot and run
there before...)
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdc1015401436 11586784 3032292 80% /theBigTmp
And see if a new clean install confined to /dev/hdc10 will duplicate the
problem I had when I tried to install it to /dev/hda4...
Are you willing??
Please pardon the delay in my response I allowed my personal life to
intrude and didn't get to use my computer (except to efile) for about a
month...
Thing is, while several attempts to install from the same powerpack set
of mdk10.1 to the {primary} non-dos partition /dev/hda4 failed to yield
bootable results. I was (once I cleaned it out) able to make a clean
install to my theBigTmp backup storage {logical drive in the extended
dos} partition at /dev/hdc10 And once it existed it only took tar and a
little editing to make a restored mdk10.1 to work on /dev/hda4... ??? ...
I'd appreciate any clues to why the installer didn't like /dev/hda4 but
had no problem with /dev/hdc10
fdisk reports:
Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 638 5124703+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda2 6391217 4650817+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda31218316215623212+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda43163486513679347+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda5 6391021 3076416b W95 FAT32
/dev/hda610221148 1020096 83 Linux
/dev/hda711491217 554211 82 Linux swap
Disk /dev/hdc: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7476 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 * 1 261 20964516 FAT16
/dev/hdc2 262358626708062+ 5 Extended
/dev/hdc33587553115623212+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc45532747615623212+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc5 262 366 843381 83 Linux
/dev/hdc6 367 427 489951 83 Linux
/dev/hdc7 428 792 2931831 83 Linux
/dev/hdc8 7931400 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc914011522 979933+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc10 1523347015647278+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc11 34713586 931738+ 82 Linux swap
In any case thank you one and all for the helpful suggestions.
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Re: [newbie] Getting a RTL8139 nic to play nice with Mandrake Linux
Michael Hahn wrote: First, thanks for the advice about how to get a shell instead of a KDE session. Worked like a charm. Second, the box I'm planning to use as a server is a HP pavilion 503n, which has a RTL8139 Nic included in the motherboard. I've been trying to get the machine up on the network, but each time I boot up, the eth0 check comes up failed. After some searching, I found that I'm not the only one who has had problems with this particular nic chipset. The search finally lead me to this page: http://www.scyld.com/rtl8139.html, however, I'm not sure about using those drivers, as they specify that they are good up through the 2.4 kernel. Does anyone know how to get this nic to work? Try turning off hotplugging, it has given me trouble before, i think with that chipset. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: new MDK installs get to reboot in rw mode then PERMISSION DENIED
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It would appear that on Jan 24, et did say:
On Monday 24 January 2005 02:01 pm, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=msecFind=Fi
nd listed two likely meanings... message security, or multicast
security... Though I suspect it's more like Mandrake security And would
probably be what I thought was the firewall settings during the install
process???
not firewall, but a script that runs as a cron job to make sure no
permissions
are changed on files where they should not be, among other things...
O a Mandrake specific security tool that I never learned about...
When you say it runs as a cron job, I hope you mean it does so without
my having to set it up... Since I multi-boot, this box since I
frequently finish up with the poweroff command, until I'm ready to use
it again, I couldn't see much sense in spending my limited learning time
getting cozy with cron... Seams like when it would be time for cron to
do something, I'd like as not be: A) running a different Linux at the
time, B) have powered down, or in case of a blue moon, c) I may have
disabled the internet connection and loaded some old game on either the
win98 or the DrDos partitions...
If so, then I definitely told the installer to use standard
hopefully the standard was msec, did you happen to see the other options, was
one paranoid
My memory is too spotty to be sure if I only mentally associate higher
security settings as paranoid levels or if the installer actually used
the term for one of the more extreme settings. But it was the only time
the installer asked me to select a level of security where standard
sounded appropriate for a client side PC that accesses the internet.
Does the installer ask about msec
how about 'df'?
and 'cat /etc/fstab'?
and 'cat /etc/mtab'
while we are asking for more info...
did you say this was on a box with other linux installs?
Well ummm, The particular installation that did this has already been
overwritten with an attempt to get a working MDK 10.1 by upgrading a
working MDK 8.2 I restored from tar archive... I've already posted some
topics to deal with it's boot time errors.
IF however, somebody is willing to try to help me debug the problem I
experienced when I tried to do a clean install from the powerpack cd set
of MDK 10.1, I will cheerfully clear out my live storage archive space
on the partition I normally mount at /theBigTmp (I've had temporarily
restored linux systems {slackware 8.0, Redhat 9, MDK 8.2} boot and run
there before...)
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdc1015401436 11586784 3032292 80% /theBigTmp
And see if a new clean install confined to /dev/hdc10 will duplicate the
problem I had when I tried to install it to /dev/hda4...
Are you willing??
In the mean time:
Yeah I almost always have at least 4 linux installations all set up with
my preferences, email account access etc...
Speaking of which, I can remember that all partition besides the one I
mounted as / I told the installer to mount (NOAUTO) on non-standard
mountpoints reassembling the ones I have in this FC2's fstab
:r /etc/fstab
# LABEL=/1/ ext2defaults1 1
# I do NOT use the LABEL convention as I find it simpler to explicitly
# specify which partition I'm currently using... else I'd have named it
# theWanderlust (my name for this FC${LatestInstalledCore} installation)
/dev/hdc4 / ext2defaults1 1
none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
none/proc procdefaults0 0
none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults,devmode=0666 0 0
/dev/hdc11 swapswapdefaults0 0
/dev/hda7 swapswapdefaults0 0
# evidentaly /dev/cdrom is my dvd-rom on /dev/hdd
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
# evidentaly /dev/cdrom1 is my cd-rw on /dev/hdb
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 udf,iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy autonoauto,user,kudzu 0 0
/dev/fd0/flop-a vfatuser,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0/flop-ext ext2user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hda1 /theWin98 vfat user,noauto 0 0
# theJourney is my name for my FC1 installation
/dev/hda3 /theJourney ext2user,noauto 0 0
# theVoid was originally my name for the SuSE 7.3 this PC came with...
# /dev/hda4 /theVoidext2user,noauto 0 0
# theWayWard is my name for my MDK 10.1 installation
/dev/hda4 /theWayWard ext2user,noauto 0 0
# win98 calls this E:
/dev/hda5 /drv-e vfatuser,noauto 0 0
/dev
[newbie] Re: Re: upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Jan 24, Mikkel L. Ellertson did say: I would like to see the output of route -n and ifconfig and ifconfig -a. Something is definitly strange here. Mikkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ifconfig -a loLink encap:Local Loopback UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Does that help??? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB+CLXRZ/61mwhY94RAu4CAKCg03Ygjh2Z1XmqXpIk7Ul+lo0PTQCgs83Y WAGZbgG4mdYwhV9YWxSDXdE= =SJh8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -- | ? ? | |-=- -=- I'm NOT clueless... |? ? But I just don't know. |^ Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | --- J(tWdy)P | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ? ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Jan 23, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook did say: As soon as I get a chance (probably tomorrow) I'll boot the MDK 10.1 and try the ping -a 127.0.0.1 I'll post the results shortly afterwards. Thanks again Ati, I appreciate the suggestion. jtwdyp - /home/jtwdyp ping -a 127.0.0.1 connect: Network is unreachable jtwdyp - /home/jtwdyp Got same result as root... - -- |^^^ ^^^ |o o Joe (theWordy) Philbrook |^J(tWdy)P | ___[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | sigh # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB9SU9RZ/61mwhY94RAvjjAJ4w67JwnL6Kx1gUXFJc6pFERUgL0wCdGoxk Z65Jomqo3eilF2H0uAseE1k= =mu/V -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: df lists /dev/hda4 as /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4 ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I upgraded a working MDK 8.2 installation to MDK 10.1 (powerpack) I just noticed something about the output of the df command... Where I expected: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda4 13464644 5375416 7405264 43% / I got: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4 13464644 5375416 7405264 43% / Did they change df - -- | ? ? | |-=- -=- I'm NOT clueless... |? ? But I just don't know. |^ Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | --- J(tWdy)P | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ? ? # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB9Sy3RZ/61mwhY94RAjLfAKCGj8Vcm8T0JcAHgZpa+AeBKBJujACbBmp/ sObIq/jM6ZwIDz1X9/xHQEI= =wW52 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] new MDK installs get to reboot in rw mode then PERMISSION DENIED
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It would appear that on Jan 18, et did say:
my guess is either you set your msec level to high, or you have /root on some
filesystem that it does not like, or you split some files or partitions
where they should not be.
on msec, standard is good for the install, don't go to paraniod until you
are
set up and then only if you are setting a server up for a bank.
try this, when lilo starts, hit esc and type in 'linux 1' when that starts,
type msec 3 then enter, then msec 2 then enter then 'reboot' then enter. that
should cure it if the problem is msec.
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When you say msec... from my working Fedora install: # which msec
doesn't find anything...
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=msecFind=Find
listed two likely meanings... message security, or multicast security...
Though I suspect it's more like Mandrake security And would probably
be what I thought was the firewall settings during the install process???
If so, then I definitely told the installer to use standard
I can't immediately test if I could have made linux 1 work as I already
replaced the problem install with an archived mdk 8.2 installation and
used the update install to get a bootable but very buggy MDK 10.1
instalation... But if I give up trying to get that working right I'll
try another clean install and if the problem resurfaces I'll try your
suggestion... I wish I'd have remembered to try single user mode before
I gave up on it... (Sometimes I think I suffer from CRS {Can't Remember
Shi^H^H^HStuff} grin)
As to the likelihood of your other guesses, I never let a new install
span more than one partition. If it works, I might split it up later.
I told the installer to put the whole filesystem / in /dev/hda4
If anyone can see a good reason in this fdisk output why MDK 10.1
wouldn't like / /root on /dev/hda4, please do tell...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jtwdyp]# fdisk -l /dev/hda
Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 638 5124703+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda2 6391217 4650817+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda31218316215623212+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda43163486513679347+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda5 6391021 3076416b W95 FAT32
/dev/hda610221148 1020096 83 Linux
/dev/hda711491217 554211 82 Linux swap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jtwdyp]#
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[newbie] Re: new MDK installs get to reboot in rw mode then PERMISSION DENIED
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Jan 17, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook did say: I'm currently downloading the 4 iso Mandrakelinux-10.1-Official-Download set now from a MDK club standard mirror and will give it a try before I give up on installing/upgrading newer versions of MDK. I'll post the results of that attempt to this thread. Well I said I'd post the results... there is both bad and good news. The md5sum results for the 4 Download iso files matched the ones on the mirror, so I burned them and attempted to install... I started getting installation errors shortly after inserting CD2. After several of these I chose not to continue... Then I decided to try to upgrade an existing MDK installation. So I restored the venerable MDK 8.2 from a tar backup. I edited it's fstab to reflect the current partition. And added it to my grub.conf and fired it up to make sure it was working. (It was!) Then I decided to try to upgrade from the powerpack cd set first. Which upgrade proceeded normally until just after it let me make a lilo boot floppy. Then the installer crashed. The good news is that MDK 10.1 now boots. The bad news is there are errors during the boot process that I don't understand. I'll address them in separate threads. - -- | ? ? | |-=- -=- I'm NOT clueless... |? ? But I just don't know. |^ Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | --- J(tWdy)P | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ? ? # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB879eRZ/61mwhY94RAhSvAKCIMe5m0TBl8xWw8v4FSL62/Ss0VACdGdCf Bt4vDqiGlJ6P+ND3n8OnK/0= =hhhR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: /etc/rc.sysinit: line 85: quiet: command not found
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I upgraded a working MDK 8.2 installation to MDK 10.1 (powerpack) The new 10.1 gives me some error messages during the boot process that I don't understand. One of them is: /etc/rc.sysinit: line 85: quiet: command not found Actually it listed something similar for initquiet on line 46 but that was further than I was able to scroll back shift+pageup to copy and paste... It also listed the same error for lines 90, 105, 109 483. Can anyone explain why I'm getting this? When upgrading an existing linux installation, does the installer leave the old rc.sysinit in place? Or does it replace it with a new one??? As far as I can tell from looking at /etc/rc.sysinit the quiet command seams to be supposed to quell unwanted screen output during the boot process. And it appears in more places than the boot process is complaining about. In most cases it's on a line by itself with an single argument on or off ... Is there any good reason why I shouldn't just comment them out? - -- | ~^~ ~^~ | ? ? Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P |\___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB88ffRZ/61mwhY94RAhSNAJ0TG1xGi0TtHpAWRGvGf9V/5QflPgCfUw6i Qiez4nNd5GyppWJNUm4W+lo= =9BzH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I upgraded a working MDK 8.2 installation to MDK 10.1 (powerpack) The new 10.1 gives me some error messages during the boot process that I don't understand. One of them is: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1. [A more complete example of the error message is shown below.] This confuses me. Why would the loopback filesystem be OK and mounted yet the loopback interface fail? What other host could possibly be using address 127.0.0.1? And much more importantly what can I do about it? I do want cups to work properly after all... And isn't the loopback device needed to make local email work? - - - - - - - - - s n i p - - - - - - - - - - Checking loopback filesystems [ OK ] Mounting loopback filesystems: [ OK ] Loading keymap: us [ OK ] Loading compose keys: compose.latin.inc [ OK ] The BackSpace key sends: ^? [ OK ] Enabling swap space:[ OK ] /bin/cat: /proc/ksyms: No such file or directory Starting netprof[ OK ] INIT: Entering runlevel: 3 Entering non-interactive startup devfsd used instead of udev!!! Checking for new hardware [ OK ] Clearing the current IPVS table:[ OK ] Applying IPVS configuration:[ OK ] Setting network parameters: [ OK ] Bringing up loopback interface: arping: socket: Address family not supported by protocol Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1. [FAILED] Starting portmapper:[ OK ] Starting system logger: [ OK ] Starting kernel logger: [ OK ] Starting partmon: [ OK ] Adding loopback device to routing table ... SIOCADDRT: No such device WARNING: Could not add loopback device to routing table, CUPS may not work properly. - - - - - - - - - s n i p - - - - - - - - - - - -- | ~^~ ~^~ | ? ? Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P |\___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB88/xRZ/61mwhY94RAsyIAJ9K3EF4fYqNHO55+esvnxTFjNub1gCdGcZD YYma6hY/AKE4nSSI9NFfdsY= =BxGJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Re: new MDK installs get to reboot in rw mode then PERMISSION DENIED
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It would appear that on Jan 23, Siposs Attila did say:
I dunno if it could help:
I had similar errors in the past, when my CPU-cooling was not proper,
and also the cdrom-drive heated up (and my good old cpu was dieing.. snip).
I took off the covers and put a normal ventillator beside the machine. It
could help... :o
Ati
Thank you for the suggestion. But I don't think it's an over heated CPU,
I already took the cover off some time ago, and I periodically clean out
the dust... Aside from which this problem only seams to affect new
Mandrake installations. I don't have any such problems when running
either of my Red Hat Fedora ( FC1 or FC2 ) installations, Nor my current
MDK 9.1, {Though I did have a similar time getting it installed back when
it was my new MDK... I don't know why it happens, but it's painful to
have to blindly hope the next version will install at all. Since it
doesn't seam like anybody else is having such a problem (other than
those with cooling issues) I suspect it may be a hardware compatibility
issue. But with what part of my system, I don't have a clue.
Whatever the problem is, it also didn't interfere with running a Mepis
linux from the live CD nor from the hard drive when I had it installed.
I also don't experience such problems running a Knoppix live CD linux
which I use as my preferred rescue CD. The thing is, sometimes I prefer
using Mandrake rather than Fedora. But I've never had such problems
installing the Red Hat systems.
I generally have 4 linux installations configured and ready to run on my
PC. The idea is if I do something stupid and totally hose an installation,
or if an update breaks an application I'm needing to use, I can probably
just run one of the others until I fix or replace the hosed one.
I gave two of those spots over to Fedora (One given over to FC1 where
almost everything works properly, the other given to continual upgrades
to whatever they currently think is the latest stable core. Though ever
since FC2 started supporting ide burners without using hdb=ide-scsi,
I've had to do my burning from my FC1 or MDK 9.1 installations sigh)
If I can keep it reasonably up to date, the other two will most likely
both belong to Mandrake. If not, sigh, frankly I'm not sure I want the
challenge of getting Debian to install. And I'm sure I'm not up to
building a Gentoo system. If I knew what actually causes the problem I
might find a way to fix it next time. As it is... sigh!
But like I said. Thanks for the suggestion.
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[newbie] Re: upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Jan 23, Siposs Attila did say: are you on a local network? if so, try to check the other machines (possibly bad config on a win95 machine) if not, it's another issue... I have no idea :( try ping -a 127.0.0.1 what is the answer? Ati Well, not exactly, I've got a netgear router between my pc and my cable modem. But I don't have any other pc connected to it yet Mostly I'm using it for a poor man's hardware firewall (it's configured not to forward any ports to my PC so even if I goof on the linux software firewall, or fire up an outdated installation, I'm still fairly well protected from the internet (I think?) Of course I don't run as root either, And I won't boot my Win98 partition without shutting down the cable modem completely grin, But I'm not sure I'm paranoid enough, there are some bad boys out there much smarter than I am after all... As soon as I get a chance (probably tomorrow) I'll boot the MDK 10.1 and try the ping -a 127.0.0.1 I'll post the results shortly afterwards. Thanks again Ati, I appreciate the suggestion. - -- | ? ? | |-=- -=- I'm NOT clueless... |? ? But I just don't know. |^ Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | --- J(tWdy)P | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ? ? # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB9D/VRZ/61mwhY94RAkDNAKCTB3mODjuBYFP+axxpGoHo8atrLwCfac2W DNwS4JAjqfgGETJ5TCPl+i0= =IVgZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] new MDK installs get to reboot in rw mode then PERMISSION DENIED
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Hello. I'm not exactly a total newbie. But I'm certainly not an expert.
I've been using MDK since I bought a boxed set of MDK 8.2 which
installed just fine on this PC...
Then when I upgraded to MDK 9.1 I bought the boxed powerpack set and had my
first experience with a Linux that thinks it successfully installs right
up to the point of removing the installation media and rebooting, only to
have all the boot text look normal until it's time to remount the root
filesystem in rw mode. immediately after which it seams every remaining
start up function gets a permission denied error. Which continues
until the system is so looked up it can't even spawn the halt process...
(had to pull the plug, and fsck everything... after EVERY attempt to
boot the new MDK system.) Tried both a clean install and an upgrade
over a working copy of MDK 8.2. with the same results.
On that occasion I gave the publicly available download version a try
which did install.
But when I tried a public download version of MDK 10.0 I had my second
experience with the same exact symptoms...
I like having at least 2 reasonably current (but different) Linux distros
installed so that I have a good fall-back in case I manage to break
something. just by updating the wrong package... And I'm feeling like
it's past time to back up my Fedora with something more up to date than MDK 9.1
So I just downloaded the MDK 10.1 powerpack {6 cd set} iso files from a
Mandrake club silver download mirror. The md5sum values for all 6 iso's
matched the ones listed on the same download site. But when I try to
install it I get the same problem again...
I suppose this could be a hardware problem, but this system has had no
such problems with RH 9, Fedora Core 1, or Fedora Core 2. And it didn't
happen with some of the older MDK versions...
The PC has 256meg of ram, 2 ide hard drives and an ide dvd-rom plus an ide
cd burner. it has a 1 GHz P III CPU And a rage128 graphics adapter. And
the Mainboard is an MSI 694T
I'm afraid the hardware manuals are missing, and I'm not a hardware
tech, But if it could possibly help figure this out, I'll gladly provide
any hardware info you can tell me how to extract from the PC.
I'm currently downloading the 4 iso Mandrakelinux-10.1-Official-Download
set now from a MDK club standard mirror and will give it a try before
I give up on installing/upgrading newer versions of MDK.
I'll post the results of that attempt to this thread.
I tried searching for reboot permission denied in the Bodies for
list 'mandrake-newbie' at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbie
and got hits going back as far as 2001-10-08 But nothing that seams
to be talking about MDK systems that really can't boot due to some kind
of permission problem that the installation program doesn't see.
If anyone has a clue what could be causing this, I'd love to hear it.
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Re: [newbie] tv out
Josenildo Marques wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 19:37 -0700, Joe wrote: Josenildo Marques wrote: Hello! I would like to play films on the Linux box and watch them on the tv. What I know is that I have to change the xorg.conf file, but I don't have the faintest idea what the changes should look like. Any tip, please !? TIA What video card do you have? There is a package named nvtv that is included with mandrake 10.1 that enables tvout on nvidia cards. Joe. Seeing is believing !! ;-) It's installed and working ! Thanks ! Glad to help. Not very often that I get a chance to beat some of the more active posters to the punch :) You know who you are! Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] tv out
Josenildo Marques wrote: Hello! I would like to play films on the Linux box and watch them on the tv. What I know is that I have to change the xorg.conf file, but I don't have the faintest idea what the changes should look like. Any tip, please !? TIA What video card do you have? There is a package named nvtv that is included with mandrake 10.1 that enables tvout on nvidia cards. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: (OT) Reguarding reply-to and the gmail address
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Oct 31, Tom Brinkman did say: On Saturday 30 October 2004 03:50 pm, Amy wrote: Then I suppose it's time to bug the gmail team. Very weird though, considering it's let me select a blank field for the replyto address. Oh well, I'll bug them about it now. Thanks for checking for me though. ^_^ Well, I replied to the list just by replying to your post Amy. The Reply to: problem is not just the responsibility of the original poster. It is also the responsibility of those that reply, to do so properly. FWIW, I use Kmail and simply tapped the 'L' key to reply to the list. The 'R' key would've replied only to you Amy. If I chose to use a mail client without this simple feature, the responsibility to reply properly is still mine. Yes... of course different mail clients implement thing differently. I use pine, and while I haven't noticed an reply to list feature, I can configure it to ask before it uses the Reply-To: field instead of the From: field when I start a reply. I also read my mailing list(s) via gmane's newserver so since pine sees the message came from a newsgroup, it offers me a 'F'ollow-up or 'R'eply choice. as long as I choose 'F'ollow-up, my reply will go to the list regardless of whether or not I notice the Reply-To: field... On a separate point though, I do wish that all the linux-os mailing lists would agree to the same standard [ Reply-To: munging or not ] Its partly because I also joined a RH Fedora list where they do munge the Reply-To field to help ensure replies go where the whole list can benefit from them, that I sometimes forget that for THIS list I need to zap my normal Reply-To: settings before I send it... If anyone should notice me forgetting to prevent my Reply-To: from being posted in this list, please feel free flame me off-list that I might learn to remember... # # gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% # # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBlWUcRZ/61mwhY94RAv9lAKCkTsA6+t1pKrIkLp3U3+2UT3uAoACeOw8f P+k2anPnfNR3+Omu7INl+eU= =9QCm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hello [ a test message from a new member...]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. Please feel free to ignore this test message. I just joined the list and need to see an actual message to get my mail filters configured. I don't know how busy this list is yet so I don't know how long I'd have to wait for my first normal message. So I don't know what the difference is between the headers of the welcome message from the list owner and a regular posting will be. And if I don't configure the filter NOW I wont have the time for at least a week. So please forgive me for wasting your bandwidth with a test message. After this you can expect that I'll lurk for a while to see what this list is like before I post anything else. Thanks for your patience. - -- | --- ___ | 0 - Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P |~\___/~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ## -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBP3tsRZ/61mwhY94RAvH4AKCK5/pzMt5HUJeejmu8MBFkcm8igQCfYzcd CtcDmTRCZdWnl20bM6yiwaY= =dqUO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hello [ apology from a new member...]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Sep 8, aron Smith did say: Welcome flaming done on OT list [EMAIL PROTECTED] I offer my apology, but not for being unaware of the dyndns.org OT list. I don't see it listed as a Mandrake list. And as I said, I needed to see what the headers of an actual list message looked like so I could configure my filters. And the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list wouldn't have had the same header information. Rather I apologize because I hadn't spent enough time with the archives to note that I should probably have put OT in the subject line. Which is so obvious that I should have guessed it anyway. I also apologize for failing to find and read from the list archives that weekly reminder that includes: 5. List Etiquette We have prepared a page describing common mailing list etiquette that will make your posts more effective and make fellow list members happier to help. It can be found at the community Twiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Where I learned why I need to remember to clear the ReplyTo: header before sending to this list. I don't actually agree with the reasons for it, but since the mandrake list server doesn't munge the ReplyTo:, I agree I should avoid using it for the mandrake list(s). - -- Joe (theWordy) Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] (:-0% ## # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ## -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBP+lFRZ/61mwhY94RAts4AJ0QUOiDrt+5aM3PH/52Vz5IEtHtiwCfYqgC rj+V4WCO31YkLrj2x6//yE0= =YaP2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] adding a second monitor - xinerama (almost there)
Brian Parish wrote: On Sat, 2004-02-21 at 16:37, Brian Parish wrote: I'm being really lazy here I know, but so far in my 5 minute search of the web I've found info on setting up two monitors with xinerama by manually configuring XF86config-4. I suspect however that there is nice, easy Mandrake gui method. If so, can anyone point me at it? I have added a second video card and attached a monitor to it. Mandrake sees both cards, but if I run XFdrake and tell it to test, it just tests the active one without noticing which card I've chosen. So I guess that's just talking to the X server and the X server hasn't noticed the second card. I'll start hacking at XFconfig86-4 if that's what's required, but if there's a tool that does it right... OK, decided to give it a go and followed the howto. Now both monitors are working, but xinerama isn't - the second monitor just repeats the image of the first and the mouse doesn't go there. I clicked on the enable xinerama button in KDE configuration and restarted X, but still no go. I have attached my XF86Config-4 file. Can anyone see what I've missed? thanks Brian # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section Files # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection Section ServerFlags #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching) Option Xinerama true EndSection Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver Keyboard Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout en_US Option XkbOptions EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier monitor1 VendorName Plug'n Play HorizSync 30-72 VertRefresh 50-120 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier monitor2 VendorName Plug'n Play HorizSync 30-72 VertRefresh 50-120 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS BusID PCI:1:7:0 EndSection Section Device Identifier device2 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS BusID PCI:2:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device device1 Monitor monitor1 DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 15 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen2 Device device2 Monitor monitor2 DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 15 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 Screen screen1 Screen Screen 2 LeftOf Screen 1 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer EndSection IIRC there should be a line in the server layout section that reads something like: Option Xinerama or Option Xinerama true.
[newbie] reserving an interrupt for a PCI device
I have a pinnacle dc10+ video capture card that is locking up my system with the zoran driver. The FAQ says it should have its own interrupt, but checking dmesg output, (and /proc/interrrupts) I see it is sharing an IRQ with eth0. I went into the bios, manually reserved the IRQ they were using, rebooted andnow they are both sharing a different IRQ. How can I reserve one for this PCI device? Thanks in advance, Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] terminal server:libwrap refused connection from tftp
this is what tail -f /var/log/messages tells me: xinetd[8966]: libwrap refused connection to tftp from 192.168.0.3 Googling has proved fruitless so far. A little help please. TIA. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] terminal server client doesn't load boot image
I think I am close but not quite there yet. The client says: loading 192.168.0.2:boot-3c509.2.4.22-10mdk.nbi.. then just sits there. Dont think this is a firewall issue since I turned it off with gaurddog. I think exports for NFS have been set up correctly by drakTermServ. Sugestions? TIA. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3d acceleration only works for root user
Chris Ruzin wrote: I had this problem when I was running Gentoo. I had to make sure I had this in my XF86Config-4 file: Section DRI Mode 066 EndSection Once I did that, then glxgears ran great as any user. Double-check that, but I'm pretty sure that's correct syntax. Chris Thanks Chris, Adding that to my config-4 sort of fixed my problem. Now when I run glxinfo as a regular user it says direct rendering is enabled. Unfortunately my problem is now this: When I run any app that uses 3d accelleration (ie. glxgears) X locks up completely. Anyone have experience with such a phenomenon? Where might i look to find some info about what is happening? Joe. On Feb 7, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Joe wrote: I am running mandrake 9.2 with Xfree 4.4 rpms from cooker. Works great but... running glxgears as anyone but root shows direct rendering is disabled. Running it as root shows it as enabled. Checking /var/log/XFree86.0.log shows: (II) SIS(0): Direct rendering enabled. This is using the sis630 agp onboard video. Suggestions for making 3d acceleration work? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 3d acceleration only works for root user
I am running mandrake 9.2 with Xfree 4.4 rpms from cooker. Works great but... running glxgears as anyone but root shows direct rendering is disabled. Running it as root shows it as enabled. Checking /var/log/XFree86.0.log shows: (II) SIS(0): Direct rendering enabled. This is using the sis630 agp onboard video. Suggestions for making 3d acceleration work? TIA. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TV out with ATI Radeon 7000
Raffaele Belardi wrote: I have an ATI Radeon 7000 with TV out connector. If I connect the TV and boot the PC, the video card puts itself in a sort of 'TV-compatible' mode (i.e. it uses 50Hz horizontal refresh rate to avoid burning the TV), so during the boot I see the MDK logo and writings on TV. The problem is that, with the 50Hz rate, X refuses to start with the message Cannot find suitable screen. I saw in the XF86Config file that there is already a modeline suitable for TV-out, but how do I enable it? thanks, raffaele I also had this card. The only way I could get tv out working under X was to change to the frambuffer driver (radeon FBDEV if i rememer correctly), and use 800x600 resolution. Unfortunately XV didn't seem to work with this driver so i could not watch movies full screen without dropped frames. I think the GATOS project might be able to make tv out work properly using the ATI.2 driver, google for it. Never got it to work properly before I sold the card. Hope this helps. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] urpmi.setup
It has come to my attention that all of the benefits of easyurpmi have been included in mandrake in the form of urpmi.setup (thanks Tom). How unfortunate that this great tool is not installed by default, and placed in the configuration menu for KDE!! How many newbies would benefit from the use of this tool? How much frustration over unresolved dependencies could have been avoided? /end rant On to my question(s): The server list loaded into urpmi.setup doesn't seem to be a valid url http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/mdkmirror.php doesn't seem to exist. In fact I can't seem to get to any plf page right now. Is this a temporary outage? Anyone know where I could find the serverlist? TIA. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compatible pcmcia network adapter?
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 18 January 2004 03:12, Joe wrote: Another thing that I just remembered. When i start up, eth0 seems to fail if the cable is plugged in, but says OK if it isn't. Dont know if that tells you anything. Could be dhcp is getting in the way. If you can't get static IP up, try killing dhcp thus:killall -HUP dhcpd and try to get eth0 up again using static IP. If you can see the driver loaded in your lsmod list your friend's ethernet card is recognized OK apparently. I'll be off on a trip to France, tomorrow so somebody else will have to take over to coach you alongsorry. Good luck, HarM Thanks for your help. I wondered if ifplugd had something to do with my problem, seeing as it seems to matter whether or not it is plugged in. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compatible pcmcia network adapter?
Erylon Hines wrote: On Saturday 17 January 2004 08:18 am, Joe wrote: Could you go into mandrake control center (aka configure your computer), click on hardware, then hardrake and let me know what NIC you have and what driver it is using. This one is a pcg-fx340, not very different machine from yours from what i can tell, but celeron based with intel ether express pro/100 ve NIC. It worked at first then wouldn't anymore, even after a re-install. TIA. Joe I've done installs on 3 laptops (2 IBM, 1 Gateway) with that integrated card--it is very common. It works flawlessly on all 3 machines (2 run 9.2, one has 9.1). The driver is the pro100, I think--the laptops are at work, so I can't check. But, that card does work, so don't stop messin' with it yet! e. Thanks. I will keep playing as long as my buddy will let me hack away at it. I think he is getting a little impatient though. I had it working at first but then it didn't after a reboot into windows. Then it worked again (without me doing anything). Then it didn't. I tried at first with the eepro100 driver mandrake chooses for me. I tried using the tool eepro100-diag to turn off the sleep mode (which i had read may help with this card). It seemed to turn off sleep mode but the card still didn't work. Then I read somewhere that eepro100 is not the best driver for the card and that i should be using intel's e100 driver. Switched to that with no luck. Downloaded, compiled/installed a newer version of e100...still no love. Wondering if it could somehow be related to the router we use at work (this is all being done on my lunchbreaks). I have checked the output of dmesg at times. Usually it says something to the effect of either 1) card is up at full duplex (followed by: card is down, and sometimes alternating between the two) when i use the eepro100 driver (IIRC) or 2) The card is in promiscous mode, followed by, the card left promiscous mode (this occurs over and over, IIRC this is what dmesg shows when i use the e100 driver) Don't know if this tells you anything usefull. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compatible pcmcia network adapter?
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 17 January 2004 21:42, Charles Ramsey wrote: HardDrake tells me that I have a Realtek RTL-8139. Hope this helps you to success. That should work with 8139too module, try insmod 8139too if it isn't mentioned with lsmod in a terminal as su/root. Different card, but as far as I can tell lsmod does show the driver is loading, it is in the list. Check dmesg if it won't load for comments on it. See my other post in the thread for my poorly remembered recollections of the output from dmesg. If it is mentioned in the list you get with lsmod see what ifconfig gives i.e. if it's there as eth0 or eth1. I will check ifconfig, thanks for the suggestion. If not try getting it up with a static IP thus: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 up and see what that gives.i.e. try ifconfig again to see if it has appeared now. If it has, you're in business;) If not, come back and we'll take you step by step. Good luck, HarM Hadn't thought of trying a static ip, i will try that on monday. Thanks again, appreciate the help and the offer of help. Another thing that I just remembered. When i start up, eth0 seems to fail if the cable is plugged in, but says OK if it isn't. Dont know if that tells you anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compatible pcmcia network adapter?
Charles Ramsey wrote: HardDrake tells me that I have a Realtek RTL-8139. Hope this helps you to success. Regards, Charles Ramsey Different card but thanks for trying. joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] compatible pcmcia network adapter?
I am giving up on getting my friends integrated intel NIC working on his VAIO under mandrake. He is willing to shell out cash for a network card that works well with 9.2. A local mom and pop shop here in Edmonton sells an Asus wl-100 pcmcia nic for $40 canadian. It sounds like a reasonable deal but, anyone know if it's supported? Anyone want to suggest other well supported cards (non-wireless only please). TIA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
Miark wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:23 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS, I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool! I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility. It does. You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo to the MBR if it has been overwritten. You can then manually add boot options for Windows 98, XP, etc. I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this? Miark windows entries are restored too if i remember correctly Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
A friend has a laptop, which has XP in the first partition. When I installed mandrake, I created a small fat32 partition between XP and mandrake, with the intent of putting 98 in there for some legacy app he wants to use (something for working with an old version of windows CE that doesn't run under XP, havn't tried it under wine...yet). Did a quick search on google and found this page: http://www.vamos.de/english/bootman2.html#dos It is an OS2 tool that can hide a primary partition from windows so that it sees the second partition as c: Is there a way to do this with lilo or grub? Is there an easier way? TIA for suggestions. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] network inconsistency
I think I will repost this problem in hopes that someone will come to my rescue. Installed mdk 9.2 on a friends sony vaio pcg-fx340, networking worked at first. Then it didn't and wont anymore even after a re-install (I know bad habits die hard).Windows says it is an intel pro/100 ve chip which originally worked with the eepro100 driver. I have read that this driver was broken by the kernel developers (according to its author) and that the solution is to compile and install it from source. Of course the make command failed. I was hoping maybe someone had another solution (or could offer to build an rpm hint hint) Here is a link to the authors page: http://www.scyld.com/network/eepro100.html TIA for help and suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] intel pro/100 ve network interface on Sony Vaio - inconsistency
Worked under knoppix. Worked on mdk 9.2 at first. Then it didn't next time I ran my buddies laptop. Then it did. Then it didn't, and now... eth0 fails every time. Tried a few things I found from googling for similar simptoms - turned off sleep mode in the eeprom using eepro100-config. Tried switching from eepro100 to the e100 driver, no love at all. (looking at dmesg showed some wierd stuff - switching promiscous mode on and off repeatedly, whatever that is). Absolutlely hate to say it but...it works under XP :(. Suggestions ? I am considering re-installing 9.2 and/or upgrading/downgrading the kernel, hoping that another version of the driver works...consistently. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: no screensavers in kde SOLVED
Troy Wolfe wrote: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have no screensavers listed when i try to configure them in KDE. xscreensaver, xscreensaver-gl and kdeartwork are installed. A look into /usr/share/applnk-mdk/.hidden/ScreenSavers shows that they are there. Why can KDE not see this? I FOUND IT!!] http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=vi ewtopictopic=12294forum=11start=10 has why it happens and how to fix it. Troy Thanks much! That did the trick. For any others with this problem they should go to the directory /usr/share/ and (as root) type: ln -s ./applnk-mdk/.hidden ./applnk-mdk.hidden Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] no screensavers in kde
I have no screensavers listed when i try to configure them in KDE. xscreensaver, xscreensaver-gl and kdeartwork are installed. A look into /usr/share/applnk-mdk/.hidden/ScreenSavers shows that they are there. Why can KDE not see this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] editing Mpeg home video
I'm still not sure what you would use to convert .mov to the proper format for VCD, maybe try Virtualdub as Matt suggested. Thanks, I'll try it. Rendering with Cinerella gave me twenty minutes of black screen. Sir Robin As far as I can tell there is no linux port of virtualdub :(. I think avidemux is the best alternative from what i have read. joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] xinetd consuming 90% of CPU
Decided to try the 20031217 cooker iso. Got some pretty mixed results. Did the upgrade from 9.2 and it had some error relating to the rpm database. Yet it installed the new version of XFree and voila! Direct rendering is enabled on my videocard for the first time under linux. Now i can play the Gl version of quake2 but... Its slow, and checking top tells me xinetd is using somewhere between 90 and 98% of my cpu. This happened again after a reboot. Suggestion as to why this may be and how to fix it? TIA. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xinetd consuming 90% of CPU
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Sunday 21 December 2003 08:19 pm, Joe wrote:
Decided to try the 20031217 cooker iso. Got some pretty mixed
results. Did the upgrade from 9.2 and it had some error
relating to the rpm database.
New version of glibc, gcc, XFree I think the encouragement
to contribute to Mandrake is to test, not use (upgrade). Either
use 10.0 separately, or be adventurous. oh well, see below
I think I will be adventurous for now. Maybe I can find some bugs and
try to give a little back to the community.
Yet it installed the new version
of XFree and voila! Direct rendering is enabled on my videocard
for the first time under linux. Now i can play the Gl version
of quake2 but... Its slow, and checking top tells me xinetd is
using somewhere between 90 and 98% of my cpu. This happened
again after a reboot. Suggestion as to why this may be and how
to fix it?
TIA.
Joe
That's a pretty big jump. Not so much from 9.2 to 10.0 cooker.
Yeah I know they're still goin out of their way to provide an
'upgrade' path. But I would'a done a fresh install savin my /home
partition. The bigger jump was to the 2.6 kernel. An yeah I know
Linus turned it loose, but it's still not ready for consumption.
Even the Mdk version for cooker. Probly won't be for months after
10.0 final in March. (actually schedualed for 2/15). 2.4.23 will
be the 10.0 kernel.
uname -r reports:
2.4.22-21mdk
So i havn't got to worry about problems related to the 2.6 kernel quite yet.
Try'n install the current cooker stable kernel,
2.4.23-0.rc5.2mdk, but IME, you'll still have a 2.6 tainted
system. Either that or re-install 9.2, and/or like me follow the
cooker ml's, includin the changelog list
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 and the lkml
http://www.tux.org/lkml/ You might suspect, as do I, that the
2.6 utils, sysfs udev and mod-utils-init, are a problem. Hard to
revert from.
No idea really why xinetd is hogging up the CPU. A workaround I have
found for now is to stop it using DrakXServices. When I run it using the
debug switch the suspicious part at the end of the output reads:
03/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:33:53: ERROR: 4816 {find_next_entry} missing service keyword
[line=1]
03/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:33:53: DEBUG: 4816 {handle_includedir} Reading included
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/time [line=18]
I've been usin cooker for years, but never tried to upgrade to
it with the installer. Doin it 'by hand' is neccessary' IME.
Sometimes cooker gets just too flakey tho, what with substantial
daily updates over the course of months. A re-install sometimes
is needed, and a re-sync to current cooker. I use 9.2, urpmi
urpmi, then get current. Recent 2.6 experience can be attributed
to last weeks re-install. Runnin cooker is not just to
experience the latest an greatest, it's also to provide testing
an feedback. IE, comes with some obligation.
I will have to consider doing a full install in order to get the full
experience and to provide better feedback. I think i might have another
hard drive around here that could become a home for cooker, leaving this
one for normal use of 9.2
Anyhow, my recent experience with 2.6 kernels is that apps
were very likely to go wild, refuse to quit, even cause panics.
Sounds exciting. 9.2 works so well now its getting boring.
If you choose, an I encourage you to,
stick with cooker, subscribe to the ML's and add cooker urpmi
sources.
I think i will.
You'll need to update daily.
I'll try that next.
I believe there's several
besides myself that'll help off list to get you goin. At least I
will.
Thanks for the offer. I only found out about the cooker iso from your
posts about it. Sure am happy to finally play some tuxracer :-)
Thanks for the words of wisdom.
Joe.
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[newbie] DRI/DRM problems with Radeon SDR PCI
I want to use DRI with ATI.2 Installed: Name: drm-kernel Version: 1.100.0.10-6mdk which was supposed to provide: /lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/char/atidrm/radeon.o.gz And: Name: ati.2 Version: 4.3.20030708-1mdk my problem: the drm-kernel rpm did not create a .../char/atidrm/radeon.o.gz and the stock radeon module doesn't load (modprobe radeon gives lots of unresolved symbol errors) checking the XFree86.0.log shows: drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module radeon (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. Suggestions for getting direct rendering working? TIA. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] no valid player models for quake 2
Anyone seen this kind of error message when trying to change player settings in quake 2? I think it may be related to the fact that my oppenents in multiplayer are pretty much invisible to me. Make me so much fresh meat for the grinder it isn't funny. TIA for suggestions on fixing it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fw: Mplayer sound out of sync
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday 24 November 2003 10:44 pm, Andrew Mann wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] What CL syntax are you usin with mencoder to do this? I'm mostly just curious as I only recently got a DVD/CDrom myself. The command I use is mencoder dvd://$DVDTRACK1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=$BITRATE -oac mp3lame -forceidx -lameopts br=96:cbr -alang en -o $FILENAME1.avi The reason for the $DVDTRACK1 etc is because i use a bash script to run it, as follows [snip] I know we linux geeks all love CLI but... using DVD::Rip is a much easier way to get a good rip in linux. If i remember correctly it detects any delay needed for the audio stream and sets it automagically, avoiding sync problems. I know rpms are out there that work for 9.2 because I used them to install it. Anyone interested in using them should be prepared to manually chase down some dependencies; IIRC I had to place some in a localRPMS folder I defined as a source for urpmi. Good luck! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] a success story (sort of): tv-out with radeon
Found out that my radeon card can output to tv under linux if I use the vesa driver at 800x600 :-) Whoohoo! But...mplayer can't use XV anymore, so it won't display fullscreen. Xine will display full screen, but drops frames :-(. I found an rpm for the gatos ati.2 experimental driver on sourceforge, and installed it. Now what? I'm not sure how I should change the XF86Config-4, and am wondering if there are other things i must do. Any Radeon users out there with suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Problems
David E. Fox wrote: I'm considering taking a look at gentoo, should prove interesting, but I think it would take a long time to bring it up on this 1.0 gig box. Let us know how it goes if you decide to go through with it. I am also interested in gentoo. I am also considering trying Suse, which i have read is a very polished distro, but not very true to RMS's ideals. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Problems
E. Hines wrote: I think I'll skip this one. 9.1 works--everything works, just the way I want it. I've upgraded only Mozilla and SpamAssassin, and try as I might, I can't come up with a single reason why I need 9.2. For the record, I skipped 8.1 and 9.0, also. 8.2 worked for me just as well as 9.1 does--clean and easy, but there is a point where upgrading does make sense--I just don't see that point, yet. This sort of highlights the difference between Mandrake and SuSe. Mandrake is cutting edge and stuff may not work. SuSe is a page behind, but stuff works. But God, I really hate YAST. Mandrake's user tools are so much better--when they work, anyway. And that is why I still use Mandrake, if anyone reading this really cares. e. I use KDE and have found that konqueror works better than it ever used to. (It used to lock up for a few seconds from time to time.) I have no issues whatsever with 9.2 and would reccomend it over 9.1. Just my $0.02. OTOH I have a friend who is having trouble getting his onboard lan working, so there is still room for improvement :-( If you have no complaints about 9.1... go with what works. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Raw tree installation of mdk 9.2
Mukul Sabharwal wrote: Hi, How does one install the Raw tree 9.2 download edition. Do I just download the whole contents. Then just burn them ? On to 3 CD's? Thanks Easier and faster to just download the network.img file from the /images directory on any of the mirrors. Then (assuming you're already running linux) from the comand line (as root, from the directory where you saved the image) type: dd if=network.img of=/dev/fd0 If you are currently running some MS OS you can use rawrite to do the same thing. See: http://gulus.usherb.ca/pub/Mandrake/9.2/i586/INSTALL.txt This will write the network boot image to a floppy. Write down the ftp address of the mirror (european mirrors are generally faster). Boot from the floppy and install directly from the mirror. You will have to know what settings you use for your broadband (ie. all I need to know is that my cable modem gets an IP address using DHCP). Specify the ftp site you want to install from and you're good to go. A big advantage of an ftp install is that you only download the packages you actually want to install (total install time for me, including downloading = aprox. 2 hrs). And if (when) you decide to install more packages later you don't have to swap disks because urpmi is allready set up to get them from the mirror. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask if you need more help, that's what we're here for. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mozilla mail: cannot use profile default it is in use
Thanks for the suggestion, I went to file:/home/~/.mozilla/default/bbp9fff8.slt/ where I found a file called lock. I assume this is the lockfile? I think I will try backing it up somewhere (just in case) and deleting it. Thanks again. Joe. On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 23:37, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:53:15 -0600 Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gives? I remember this one happening occasionally in 9.1. Can't remember what I did to get around it. I was sort of excited about the junk mail filter in mozilla but now... Any ideas why this is happening when I do not have mozilla or mozilla messenger running? TIA for suggestions? had this happen to day goto ~/.mozilla/name of weird dir/lockfile delete the lockfile restart moz. Femme __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 KDE Kmenu link drag n drop
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 10:53, Jason Greenwood wrote: How the heck do you drag and drop app links to the desktop now?? U used to be able to left click and drag,now it's x'd out??? Cheers Jason Ummm, works just like always for me. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mozilla mail: cannot use profile default it is in use
What gives? I remember this one happening occasionally in 9.1. Can't remember what I did to get around it. I was sort of excited about the junk mail filter in mozilla but now... Any ideas why this is happening when I do not have mozilla or mozilla messenger running? TIA for suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] re: problem with 9.2 install
Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 17 October 2003 09:45 pm, jdennehy wrote: image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount splash=silent mem=256 hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht I am not very sure about what hardware is in this box but IIRC it is an ECS motherboard using the SIS 630 chipset (integrated everything), and a Radeon 7200 pci video card. I am grasping at straws here but...could I have messed up the install by leaving my /home parititon from mdk9.1 unformatted? P.S the old_linux-non-fb entry in the lilo.conf is from the 1st try install of 9.2. When it didn't work I tried to do an upgrade to see if I had done something wrong during post install configuration. Thank you for your help. Joe. You could try hitting esc at the lilo menu and typing linux noapic and see if that helps. Sis chipsets can have trouble with I/O APIC. If that works, add it (just the noapic, not the linux part) to the append line in lilo.conf and rerun lilo to make the change permanent. Thanks for the suggestions Greg. I did a full format of my drive (cleaned out that OTher OS entirely), reinstalled, and this time it works. Still a few little things that aren't working quit right but hopelfully I can figure it out. If not I know where to find the most helpfull group of people on the net :-) Thanks again for trying. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Instant application shut down.
Thanks for the hints. As far as I can remember it worked fine after installation. I need to check the MDK version.. Thanks again... --- Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 23:29, Smith Joe wrote: Hi All, I have noticed an oddity. When I start any of the OpenOffice applications as soon as the program is loaded it immediately shuts down again. What am I doing wrong? You might want to see if there are core dumps in your home directory...another thing to do is to open up a terminal window, and manually type out: oowriter ...and watch what is happening after you type that...(of course, you must hit ENTER or RETURN)...this will give you a clue as to what is going on... What version of MDK are you using? Have you installed/reconfigured any applications or system settings recently? When was the last time this worked correctly and what has changed since that time? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Everything that can be invented has been invented. -- Charles Duell, Director of U.S. Patent Office, 1899 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = Lysergius says, Stay light, but trust gravity! __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Instant application shut down.
Hi All, I have noticed an oddity. When I start any of the OpenOffice applications as soon as the program is loaded it immediately shuts down again. What am I doing wrong? = Lysergius says, Stay light, but trust gravity! __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Instant application shut down.
Thanks. I will try that. --- Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smith Joe wrote: Hi All, I have noticed an oddity. When I start any of the OpenOffice applications as soon as the program is loaded it immediately shuts down again. What am I doing wrong? = Lysergius says, Stay light, but trust gravity! it sounds like it didn't install correctly. Try uninstalling the OO packages and then reinstall everything from your CD's. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = Lysergius says, Stay light, but trust gravity! __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Word Perfect conversion to Open Office
Hi all, I recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on a K6 III based machine and I am impressed by the overall comfort level. Having come from a DOS background I have a lot of WP51 files I would like to convert to use in OO... Any pointers to where a converter can be found? Many thanksLysergius says,"Stay light, but trust gravity!" Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
On Friday 26 September 2003 09:52 pm, Joe Janzen wrote: My modem is U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT V5.0.0. I've also tried with/without 'Use lock file' checked in KPPP's device options. Right now KPPP is set to PAP authentication, to obtain dynamic IP (per ISP's instructions), default gateway and automatic DNS (also tried manually entering ISP's DNS IP). I've tried 'chmod u+s pppd' and 'service network restart' after making some of the above changes. Also, I removed an old ethernet card that wasn't being used in case it was causing a problem with eth0 vs. ppp0. I'd be extremely grateful if someone could help me! Thanks, Joe My Shorewall configuration was the problem, and everything's working now. My /etc/shorewall/interfaces file only had an entry for 'eth0.' Thanks, Derek! (and everyone else who helped as well) Joe - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
Hi, I've searched the archives and tried some suggestions for similar problems, but without success. Mandrake 9.1 was just installed. I launch KPPP and everything seems to work as the connection is established. However, web browsers fail to load any pages and I can't even ping anything except my own IP that my ISP assigns me dynamically (I've tried IP numbers, not just hostnames, and I've tried both as root and as a regular user). Here's some info that might help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:294 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:294 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:26414 (25.7 Kb) TX bytes:26414 (25.7 Kb) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:128.101.252.209 P-t-P:128.101.252.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:122 (122.0 b) TX bytes:87 (87.0 b) [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 128.101.252.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 128.101.252.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/ppp/options lock// i've tried removing 'lock' too noauth noipdefault usepeerdns My modem is U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT V5.0.0. I've also tried with/without 'Use lock file' checked in KPPP's device options. Right now KPPP is set to PAP authentication, to obtain dynamic IP (per ISP's instructions), default gateway and automatic DNS (also tried manually entering ISP's DNS IP). I've tried 'chmod u+s pppd' and 'service network restart' after making some of the above changes. Also, I removed an old ethernet card that wasn't being used in case it was causing a problem with eth0 vs. ppp0. I'd be extremely grateful if someone could help me! Thanks, Joe - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
Joe, others are dealing with your problem. Meanwhile, may I refer you to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette particularly the bit about hijacking. I'm terribly sorry about that; I should have thought of it. Well, here's a new thread anyway. Thanks to everyone who has responded! This problem has been quite frustrating for me. Joe, what does your /etc/resolv.conf say ? I'm not sure - I'll send this when I get home from work. Turn shorewall off and try again... perhaps. OK thanks; I hadn't heard of this ... it appears that I just have to 'shorewall stop'? If you made the above GATEWAYDEV change manually, did you restart your network afterwards? # service network restart Yes, I did and got the same problem. Thanks again - here's my original query: Hi, I've searched the archives and tried some suggestions for similar problems, but without success. Mandrake 9.1 was just installed. I launch KPPP and everything seems to work as the connection is established. However, web browsers fail to load any pages and I can't even ping anything except my own IP that my ISP assigns me dynamically (I've tried IP numbers, not just hostnames, and I've tried both as root and as a regular user). Here's some info that might help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:294 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:294 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:26414 (25.7 Kb) TX bytes:26414 (25.7 Kb) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:128.101.252.209 P-t-P:128.101.252.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:122 (122.0 b) TX bytes:87 (87.0 b) [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 128.101.252.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 128.101.252.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/ppp/options lock// i've tried removing 'lock' too noauth noipdefault usepeerdns My modem is U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT V5.0.0. I've also tried with/without 'Use lock file' checked in KPPP's device options. Right now KPPP is set to PAP authentication, to obtain dynamic IP (per ISP's instructions), default gateway and automatic DNS (also tried manually entering ISP's DNS IP). I've tried 'chmod u+s pppd' and 'service network restart' after making some of the above changes. Also, I removed an old ethernet card that wasn't being used in case it was causing a problem with eth0 vs. ppp0. I'd be extremely grateful if someone could help me! Thanks, Joe - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't retrieve mail from /var/spool/mail
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:19:34 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Welcome back, Joe! Thanks!, but I've been on here as Haywire for the past while, got my own domain name and was using postfix to send and receive that way ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I had something similar happen to me once where gkrellm told me I had a million mails, but when I opened sylpheed I didn't have any. It turned out to be some mess-up in/var/spool/mail/me--I opened the file and saw that the first line was blank. I deleted the blank line, saved it, and then everything was OK. Well, I was hopeful at first, because when I first went into my spool and looked at it the F was missing from the first From, so I edited it and saved, and went back to Sylpheed, configured my account to retrieve from local spool, hit g, but still no go. Damn, I've got 385 mails in there, their accumulating like crazy and I can't pick them up. I tried moving the file to a temp dir, wiping it out and start fresh but permission denied. Could I move it as root, recreate it, and start with a new blank spool, or am I playing with fire there? Maybe it just got corrupted when everything went black! You'll notice that the spool is just the messages with a blank line separating each one. If it ain't the first line, maybe you can just grep for From (include the space because that would be different thanFrom: of course) and make sure there's a blank line in front of it(except the very first message). It looks good from what I can see, all the messages are separated properly as you described... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HP Officejet K60 Printer?
Hello All! I recently installed Mandrake 9.1 on my elderly Gateway Solo 2500 laptop. Kudos to Mandrake for putting together such a simple-to-install distro. X and its associated parts installed flawlessly, OPenOffice.org also, along with my orinoco silver wi-fi card. It's a far cry from the first time I installed Slackware back in about 1993 or so... Anyhow, I'm curious to know if anybody has managed to get an HP Officejet K60 printer up and running at anything better than 300X300 resolution. I'm using the default installation of CUPS with the default HP Deskjet 9X driver (per the CUPS documentation and the info on sourceforge). Is there a better driver out there? To complicate matters, the printer is hanging off of a US Robotics 8022 wireless router, using the built-in USR print server. I don't think the server is the problem, because it prints OK at 300X300, but doesn't look as crisp as at 600X600 from my wintel box. Suggestions? Questions about the US Robotics print server? -Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav
On Fri, 30 May 2003 15:15:06 + Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hi all is there a tool for converting mp3 to wav format ? the lame encoder-decoder will do that, you can get lame plugins for various apps I believe, like grip or xmms to decode mp3. http://lame.sourceforge.net/ -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:14:49 up 2 days, 23:37, 5 users, load average: 0.50, 0.13, 0.04 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ok another address change
On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:15:51 -0400 KVPSTAFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: whats that mean...are you saying, that router is crap...or that routers in general are crap as I said earler in the thread that I believe a dedicated router/NAT sol'n is always best. the crap you but at BestBuy like the pretty little blue routers are what I am talking about. yaaa, *all* routers are crap, specially Cisco. LOL! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 14:26:48 up 3 days, 3:49, 6 users, load average: 0.09, 0.02, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Control Center 9.1 and URPMIs
On Thu, 29 May 2003 07:58:01 -0500 The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Thanks for the assistance. One of the main reasons I came to Linux was to be able to keep my OS current without spending an arm and a leg every 2 years. I love having *capacity* and *no limits*, even if I don't use them. Charles Moore's FORTH language is good, but being able to interact with others is better. :) there's a way easier way to do this. go here: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php if you are not sure you are clear on what you are doing, read man urpmi and associated man pages (listed at bottom of man urpmi). but really, just going to that site will get you all set up! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:09:05 up 1 day, 22:31, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On Thu, 29 May 2003 15:58:28 +0200 barting [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=11261 Outrageaously shameless sick motherf*ckers over there at the european union headquarter$$, that's all I can say... Just makes me more determined every day though. just to play devil's advocate, is there a single distro or sol'n provider that could offer the EU an OS capable of using and interpreting 20 languages? Personally I think it's a pretty lame exuse about the languages thing, it wouldn't take much effort to put together, CMIIW. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:20:54 up 1 day, 23:43, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On Thu, 29 May 2003 16:55:43 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: scroll down, and you'll see every European language represented, not only in aspell, but kde-i18n as well. Furthermore, translating into any language is piece of cake. what that means is one of three things: 1. he knows he is lying. 2. he doesn't know, in which case he's incompetent (incontinent? impotent?) 3. he's in the pocket os MS. take your pick. from what you wrote b4, the only logical *choice* is 3. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:52:45 up 2 days, 14 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Greetings to the mandrake community!
On Thu, 29 May 2003 23:31:27 +0300 manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I will post many questions on this forum, hoping to give me some help in many circumstances that I came to. A big welcome to me,,, a newbie user Hail and well met! Stephen Kuhn will be answering most of your questions, ROFL...tho the past few days M Brinkman has been writing like a madman...er :D -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 16:32:54 up 2 days, 5:55, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ok another address change
On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:32:50 -0400 KVPSTAFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: a windows 2000 pro machine, networked with 2 other w2k pro machines, and a mandrake linux only machine using a INTEL InBusiness 5 port hub. every machine sees each other...but only the DSL connection is on the windows 2k pro setup with verizon DSL. I'm trying to get linux to now see the windows box...so that i can then setup the dsl connection to share with the windows boxes... I would appreciate some help with this...anyone care to lend a hand? 1. Plug in a router/firewall/NAT between the DSL connection and the hub. If you have an old Pentium kickin around with just a floppy drive, that's all you need. There are plenty of kickass floppy-based Linux firewalls you can snag for free. 2. Done. or: 1. Configure your Mandrake box as a firewall/router/NAT which is a lot more complicated and time consuming, IMHO, but will teach you lots about how firewalls, NAT, and routing work. There should be an internet connection sharing wizard in MCC though, I am not sure if it takes care of all that. I *always* recommend a dedicated firewall/NAT, no foolin around, learn IPTables later. IMO. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 20:43:30 up 2 days, 10:05, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Greetings to the mandrake community!
On Thu, 29 May 2003 21:47:15 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What about you? I just answer the ones that have been answered 10 billion times before! copy -- paste -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 21:06:27 up 2 days, 10:28, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.07, 0.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ok another address change
On Thu, 29 May 2003 21:25:20 -0400 KVPSTAFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: LOL...I tried the ROUTER way, using a D-LINK DI-704P but when i tried to setup the software under windows.. it gave me a bluescreen to the point I had to re-format etc. etc...stinks...so now I'm just using the hub... scottish accent: that's ne a rrrou'er, tha's crrrap! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 06:36:48 up 2 days, 19:59, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xmms
On 28 May 2003 22:22:12 +0800 Daniel Guidara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try add a song and it wont let me, it doesn't tell me if theres an error either. Any suggestions to what the problem could be? what's the file extension? if it doesn't recognize the filetype, it behaves like that. rather stupid not to at least give an error, IMO. but then i am no coder. -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating archive
On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:32:26 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday May 28 2003 08:33 am, Joe Hill wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003 19:10:42 +1000 _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But not all Windows computers can read them (WinZip can't). we'll use bz2 for l archives just to fsck with them! mua ha ha ha h... .rar is pretty good, most Windoze machines can work with it. I believe WinZip can. It's proprietary tho. I don't use it to make archives, but I'd be lost without unrar used with File Roller when it comes to d/l'g rar's in many parts from binary newsgroups. There's an unrar rpm for Mandrake available from PLF, unrar-3.20-0.beta2.1plf I think archiver can use unrar too,I just prefer File Roller for this task. If you use ROX filer and the Archive app, it has built-in support for *un-rar*, but it will not create. :) heh, I'm always pushin my ROX and my Pekwm... somebody STOP meh -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xmms
On 28 May 2003 22:39:05 +0800 Daniel Guidara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there away to check if some sorta error came up under the logs. just follow Ronald's suggestion. -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] default wm for vnc
I run TightVNC to load a desktop on my server on occasion, and originally I set the default desktop to flux (yuk). then I installed pekwm, altered the .xinitrc, restarted the vncserver, and confirmed that the xsession script for vncserver points to the .xinitrc, yet it still loads fluxbox. WTF? no use a different program suggestions, bitte. das ist nicht ich bin vollen! -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc
On 28 May 2003 17:06:42 +0200 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you start up with runlevel 3? This uses .xinitrc afaik. Runlevel 5 bypasses that one if I am not mistaken. only 3, it's a p166 w/ 8MB RAM, so a gui boot would *kill* it LOL. WTF? no use a different program suggestions, bitte. das ist nicht ich bin vollen! Keine Bange, ich werde dich nicht fressen! heh, you overestimate my German, I know less than JFK did :D i'm pretty sure you're saying: see? I did not say that! or thereabouts...but only by deduction. -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't get a GUI boot
On Wed, 28 May 2003 10:14:45 + John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what ROX-Filer is for! I use fluxbox, which I personally think is slightly better than Blackbox, but that's just personal preference. I have a bar on the left side of my screen which lets me put launcher applications on. Here is how to do it: just type urpmi rox rox-system rox-utils, and install the necessary packages. Then, to put a launcher bar on the left side of the screen, type rox -l Default. for the right side - rox -r Default. You go my ROX brother! -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc
On Wed, 28 May 2003 16:19:05 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edit ~/.vnc/xstartup to include the command which starts your Window manager. sorry, right, I should have said xstartup, not xsession...duh anyway, I pointed the ~/.vnc/xstartup to pekwm directly, and it worked! h, I'm still curious as to why the default way ie. xstartup pointing to .xinitrc wasn't working... Do not forget to make it executable yep, both are and were. anyway, thanks for the help guys! love this place...:) -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!
On Wed, 28 May 2003 17:53:48 +0100 John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: No serial number required , Marco, just install it. This is what shocks so many Windows users when I start preaching about Linux. waddaya mean it's free? the OS, all the software, everything?! Welcome Marco, get that installed and we'll see ya again soon I hope. Just don't use KDE! ROFL, just kidding... -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc
On Wed, 28 May 2003 16:07:58 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: DESKTOP=KDE On a P166 with 80MB of RAM?! are you quite mad sir!? LOL, but in other news, pekwm runs 5 times faster than fluxbox in a vnc window, from said P166. -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Contrib sources and cooker RPMs
On 29 May 2003 12:56:47 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Whinge whinge whinge. ? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 01:08:01 up 1 day, 14:30, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Contrib sources and cooker RPMs
On 29 May 2003 17:53:31 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Everything else is software to be used by the Anne Wilson's and Joe Hill's of the world. er, compiling from CVS is child's play...My mail client, browser, WM, and favourite game (Darkplaces), are all from CVS. eets a pce of caaake mon... :D -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 06:28:32 up 1 day, 19:50, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Contrib sources and cooker RPMs
On 29 May 2003 17:37:20 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Sorry, I forgot about your N.Hemisphere vocabulary! Translation: Whine whine whine. well, if you lived so close to g duhbulyuh, you'd be whinging too! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 06:42:52 up 1 day, 20:05, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On 29 May 2003 13:32:07 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Why not even go so far as to help to organise pickets at stores that specifically sell ONLY M$ bundled machines - stressing choice? do we get to sing We Shall Overcome...? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 08:18:52 up 1 day, 21:41, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Contrib sources and cooker RPMs
On Thu, 29 May 2003 12:13:05 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Might be a piece of cake, but by definition must carry some risk. Risk assessments, ya know? well, it depends. Something like Pekwm or Sylpheed or Darkplaces, these are people who've been coding since they were 12. So, subsequently, their code is very stable and reliable. I never have problems with *any* of the CVS versions that I use. I have more problems with some contrib rpms than I do CVS. For example, mplayer crashes every once in awhile, and don't even get me started on Gimp, crashes every third or fourth time I use it. And there's never any risk of damage to my system that I've ever seen or experienced of heard of on any of the devel lists I subscribe to. I would say the difficulty and risk of running alpha software is relative to the coder, but is vastly overstated in general. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 08:28:53 up 1 day, 21:51, 4 users, load average: 0.16, 0.04, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Pekwm (Gkrellm is cool)
On Tue, 27 May 2003 10:43:39 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this! Why not try uploading to http://gallery.vmlinuz.ca/ ? Vincent said that no login is necessary, so if you have ftp set up it should be straightforward (haven't tried it) It *is* very straightforward, you just browse to it on your local machine, it even autogenerates a thumbnail and a smaller version, so 3 different views from thumb to full size! Cool! I'll hafta try and hold back, I'm kinda screenshot addicted. :D -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1
On Tue, 27 May 2003 16:06:47 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point Guy, when the desktop hardware matures for it, I probly will go 64 bit cpu/cache/ram. In the meantime, marketing gimicks of 66mhz (AGP) 2x, 4x and now 8x... and the real jokes, 66, 100, and 133, and serial ATA across the old 32 bit 33mhz PCI bus are frauds. Still people like to believe 'em. It sells anyhow... what about DDR? or did I miss that post already? is that legit? -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1
On Tue, 27 May 2003 18:08:39 -0400 Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was addressing throughput limitations due to the 33 MHz PCI bus, which is independent of memory configuration. gotcha! thanks! That's what I thought, but I got scared there for a minute, I am s looking forward to getting a 333 Mobo :D -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Pekwm (Wohoo!)
On Tue, 27 May 2003 20:22:02 -0700 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, i set that. I get the menu properly, but no scroll wheel. Maybe rox isn't programmed to pass mouse buttons 4 and 5? In the end, i tend to run windows maximized, so i really use the alt-arrow most of the time anyway... well, if you are using gkrellm, shouldn't that let you just swipe the mouse in an open area? or do your window maximize over gkrellm? -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - MS to lose Munich?
On Wed, 28 May 2003 00:30:09 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9678 :) Todd ya, saw that on Slashdot today I think...or was it Newsforge...? their losing all over the place, India in particular is really pushing Linux and a lot of South American countries are looking at it too. They're scaared, and this why, as Tom Brinkman may agree, there's no sense worrying too much, they're on the ropes and they know it. This latest Passport thing has a lot of companies reconsidering adopting the .Net platform for their e-commerce sol'ns and such. Heh. -- + Joe Hill (pbs.org/joehill) + Registered Linux user #282046 + See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net +The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; + the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
