RE: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Ken Schaefer]

Whilst this would be a bit of pain to set up initially, you could look at 
having DFS but not replicating the data. When a user moves, at that point, just 
configure their folder as having two targets (old and new location) so that the 
data is replicated across. 

But from what I'm seeing of your requirements, you really just need to have a 
process in place, rather than any fancy DFS related technology. Work with 
management so that you are included in the pre-planning/work that's involved 
when a user moves location (I mean, some other stuff happens right? Security 
passes, desk allocation, new phone number etc. Get hooked in that process 
rather than being told about it after the fact).

Also, with DFS, EFS encrypted files are not replicated (just in case you using 
that).

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Saturday, 29 August 2009 2:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

Sean Martin  wrote on 08/28/2009 01:21:19 PM:

> DFS would probably work if you used it in conjunction with DFS-R. 
> The questions are this
>  
> 1) Do you want to host ALL of your user profiles on all servers? 

No. Because then I would need hundreds of gigabytes of storage at each site, so 
that each site has a copy of all user profiles.

I have about 1,000 users. Right now, my "main" fileserver has something on the 
order of 900G of user storage alone. If I add in the other 4 servers, I'm 
looking at a couple terrabytes of space, at each site, just for user folders ..

Yes, I know - in spite of policy against it, I know they've got many, many 
music files, etc, that they shouldn't have. I also need to clean that up. 
Even after I do, I'll still have multiple hundreds of gigs of valid files.

> 2) Is it possible to upgade to Windows 2003 R2, to take advantage of
DFS-R?

That part I can do/mostly have done.

> In a typical roaming profile environment, DFS should be a fairly 
> decent solution. We found that in a terminal service/Citrix 
> environment, especially with multiple application silos, DFS and 
> DFS-R was a pain and ultimately unsupported.

We don't use roaming profiles, no. And we're not a terminal server/Citrix 
environment.

> If using DFS-R/FRS, you wouldn't have to worry about 
> backup/restores, as the data would be replicated for you. Again, 
> this would require hosting all user profiles on all of your servers 
> to maintain continuity. 

Yeah, and that's the part I don't see happening, due to the storage and 
the huge bandwidth issues (those huundreds of gigs have to fully 
replicate, at least at first. After that, I'm sure it's manageable use of 
bandwidth, to replicate changes).

> Clients will connect to the DFS server within their site. You could 
> implement some type of redundancy/load balancing as well by adding 
> multiple servers to your Folder Targets. You can control which 
> servers clients connect to using referral ordering.

Hmmm ...

> Again, I don't have much experiencing using FRS, but from my 
> experience with DFS-R and from what I've read about the 
> improvements, it would be worth researching whether upgrading to 
> Windows 2003 R2 would be feasible. 

Thanks!

>  
> - Sean
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:21 AM,  wrote:
> Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:01:52 PM:
> 
> > And you are not using DFS beecause? This would help you tremendously.

> Don't know enough about to implement. I know the general theory of it
> (it's pretty equivalent to a mount point in Unix/Linux, I believe). How
> would it help me, tho?
> 
> Would I specify the profile location as "\\DFS\Users\username1", and 
then
> - as long as something mounted into DFS has a path "\Users\username1",
> offline folders would be happy? And then I'd only have to worry about
> doing the backup/restore from one physical server to the other?
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM,  wrote:
> > I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home
> > profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for
> > performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as
> > offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose
> > connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, 
right?
> >
> > Here's my problem/aggravation:
> >
> > I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes
> > with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN 
link,
> > we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons.
> >
> > This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup 
their
> > files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete 
their
> > offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old
> > fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I
> > can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it
> after
> > they've move

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

[Matthew Bullock]

The other racks that Graybar carries are probably the CPI racks.
They're the bees knees.  Since it's in a locked room, no need for a
locking cabinet with doors and side panels, so go with the (usually)
cheaper QuadraRack.

The Dell Versa Rail is just for square hole racks, so they don't need
screws, they just kind of click into place.

-matt

-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

We will be getting a 19 inch 42u rack for our current PE2950 and
future Dell PowerEdge servers.  It will house servers and possibly a
disk array.  Is that considered medium density?  We already have some
APC metered PDU's (AP7830's) on a 16KVA Symettra UPS.  They are "0U'
PDU's, which I suppose is a standard for PDU's.  I want to mount two
of these PDU's per rack, as we use redundant power supplies in our
servers.  Should they be mounted on either side, in the rear?  Dell
offers a "Versa Rail" so the server can be slid like a drawer, while
keeping the cables managed.  Is that worth it?  I would think that we
should use APC accessories with APC racks, and Dell acc's with Dell
racks.  Do you like APC over Dell?  Other players?  We will start with
one rack, and possibly add to that in a year as tower servers are
retired.  This is in a dedicated, locked room with dedicated A/C.  No
raised floor though.  I have seen plenty of APC racks in the field,
but no Dell, maybe I have the answer...

I am considering a Dell 4220, APC NetShelter and those units at
Graybar down the street, whatever they are (hmm must go look now)

Thanks . . . and have a great weekend!
Devin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

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RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Ken Schaefer]

That's lovely that you have an answer Murray. I've got another solution - I'm 
leaving this list.

If anyone has any actual answers to the original question (namely some other 
good admin lists that they could recommend) that would be appreciated (already 
on myITForum and ActiveDir)

Cheers
Ken

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 11:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

I've been on this list a long time, and I've always had an answer for people 
who complain about "noise". If your keyboard doesn't have a DELETE key, get a 
new keyboard. I lurk most of the time, and infrequently contribute, but this is 
a good source of info. Usually, good use of the SUBJECT line is all that is 
needed to keep me from "turning the volume down". When I've requested help 
here, it always comes quickly. I'm on the Exchange list as well, and while a 
little less "noisey" it's a good one as well. Long live both lists!


Murray



From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
Isn't there a 80's hair metal song called Tease Me, Please Me or something like 
that?



Shook




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Hey Stu - How come I don't see VIPRE here?

[Kurt Buff]

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/RAP/RAP-quadrant-Feb-Aug09.jpg

Referenced from here:

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/169891/malware_is_evading_detection_researchers_say.html

and here:

https://blogs.sans.org/security-leadership/2009/08/10/dont-renew-that-anti-virus-contract/

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

[Bob Fronk]

Pretty sure APC makes the Dells (not 100% sure).  The versa rails work nicely.

Pretty much any equipment will fit in the Dell rack.  

-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

We will be getting a 19 inch 42u rack for our current PE2950 and
future Dell PowerEdge servers.  It will house servers and possibly a
disk array.  Is that considered medium density?  We already have some
APC metered PDU's (AP7830's) on a 16KVA Symettra UPS.  They are "0U'
PDU's, which I suppose is a standard for PDU's.  I want to mount two
of these PDU's per rack, as we use redundant power supplies in our
servers.  Should they be mounted on either side, in the rear?  Dell
offers a "Versa Rail" so the server can be slid like a drawer, while
keeping the cables managed.  Is that worth it?  I would think that we
should use APC accessories with APC racks, and Dell acc's with Dell
racks.  Do you like APC over Dell?  Other players?  We will start with
one rack, and possibly add to that in a year as tower servers are
retired.  This is in a dedicated, locked room with dedicated A/C.  No
raised floor though.  I have seen plenty of APC racks in the field,
but no Dell, maybe I have the answer...

I am considering a Dell 4220, APC NetShelter and those units at
Graybar down the street, whatever they are (hmm must go look now)

Thanks . . . and have a great weekend!
Devin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 28 Aug 2009 at 10:40, Lee Douglas  wrote:

> My home network is on an old D-Link DIR-635 (latest firmware but it hit 
> end of life in 2007!) which only supports WPA personal and WPA 
> Enterprise - but it only supports WPA Enterprise via a Radius Server. 
> It's fast enough and works fine so i'm reluctant to trash it unless I 
> have to.

WPA Personal isn't cracked IFF you can set it to use AES/CCMP instead of TKIP. 
Also, the way I you read the details of the crack, it ain't really a crack in 
the sense that they can recover the WPA-TKIP password.  They can capture and 
decode the traffic by acting as a man-in-the-middle.

I'm in the same boat as you, home network uses DWL-2000AP, which is EOL and 
doesn't support anything beyond WPA-PSK with TKIP.  Looking at a Linksys 
WRT54GL (<$45 at NewEgg right now) with an alternate OS ...

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




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~   ~

Re: .Zip file password

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 28 Aug 2009 at 11:16, David Lum  wrote:

> Anyone know of a tool to recover a lost password for a PW 
> protected WinZip file? 

Unfortunately the latest WinZIP password-protection may be very difficult to 
crack, ISTR it now includes AES encryption and can be much more secure than 
earlier ZIP passwording.

WinZip® - AES Encryption Information
http://www.winzip.com/aes_info.htm

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

APC vs Dell 19inch racks

[Devin Meade]

We will be getting a 19 inch 42u rack for our current PE2950 and
future Dell PowerEdge servers.  It will house servers and possibly a
disk array.  Is that considered medium density?  We already have some
APC metered PDU's (AP7830's) on a 16KVA Symettra UPS.  They are "0U'
PDU's, which I suppose is a standard for PDU's.  I want to mount two
of these PDU's per rack, as we use redundant power supplies in our
servers.  Should they be mounted on either side, in the rear?  Dell
offers a "Versa Rail" so the server can be slid like a drawer, while
keeping the cables managed.  Is that worth it?  I would think that we
should use APC accessories with APC racks, and Dell acc's with Dell
racks.  Do you like APC over Dell?  Other players?  We will start with
one rack, and possibly add to that in a year as tower servers are
retired.  This is in a dedicated, locked room with dedicated A/C.  No
raised floor though.  I have seen plenty of APC racks in the field,
but no Dell, maybe I have the answer...

I am considering a Dell 4220, APC NetShelter and those units at
Graybar down the street, whatever they are (hmm must go look now)

Thanks . . . and have a great weekend!
Devin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Bandwith would not be much of an issue once you have this setup properly.
Yes, once you have selected the primary share it would replicate to the
other servers/sites. But once that is done, any manipulation done to a file,
say an Excel spreadsheet, would only be replicated to the other servers.
This is done every 15 minutes. And to my understanding, this time can be
changed.

If you can upgrade the servers to Windows 2003 Server R2, This does a very
adequate job of DFS-R. A lot easier done than in Windows 2000, as someone
has mentioned earlier. I think, and someone correct me if I am wrong, but in
Windows 2000 you were only allowed to create one reference point. In Windows
2003 R2 it allows you, now, to create multiple reference points. So, if you
want to create a share in AD just for your Users Folders, you can, plus any
other reference points as needed.

Just remember, Once all files have been replicated, at the beginning, DFS-R
only replicates files that have been modified. If you have a T1 between each
site, that would suffice to handle the replication.

Scenario: Say user John Doe is at Site A. He logs in and accesses some Word
and Excel Files in his User Folder. If you have DFS-R setup properly, AD
would then check to see which server is closer to him, through DFS-R, and
then point to Server A at Site A for John Doe to access those files. Now,
lets say that John Doe needs to go to Site C. When he gets there DFS-R would
have already replicated those files that he has manipulated, not the entire
directory. The entire directory was replicated at the beginning when you
setup DFS-R. So, when John Doe logs in, AD and DFS-R checks to 'see' which
of the shares is closest to John Doe. In this case, it is Server C. John Doe
is none the wiser as he thinks he is accessing his User Folder. And that is
all he cares about.

Now, let's say that John Doe is at Site C but Server C is down and offline.
When John Doe logs in he should be authenticated by the PDC, which is
Site/Server A. But what about his User Folder. No problem. AD and DFS-R will
then point to the closest server, which is Site/Server A in this case, and
John Doe has access to his files. John Doe doesn't even have to re-map to
his User Folder. When Server C comes back online DFS-R will see those
manipulated files in Server A and then replicate those files back to the
share on Server C as well as to any other share that is setup in DFS-R.

Backups: You don't necessarily have to backup all User Folders on all
Servers. Since there is a Primary Share, you would only need to Backup that
folder, as it is the folder that DFS-R users as a reference point for all
files. If a user deletes a file and then needs it back, you only need to
restore it on the Primary Share. It will then be replicated to the other
servers.



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM,  wrote:

> Sean Martin  wrote on 08/28/2009 01:21:19 PM:
>
> > DFS would probably work if you used it in conjunction with DFS-R.
> > The questions are this
> >
> > 1) Do you want to host ALL of your user profiles on all servers?
>
> No. Because then I would need hundreds of gigabytes of storage at each
> site, so that each site has a copy of all user profiles.
>
> I have about 1,000 users. Right now, my "main" fileserver has something on
> the order of 900G of user storage alone. If I add in the other 4 servers,
> I'm looking at a couple terrabytes of space, at each site, just for user
> folders ..
>
> Yes, I know - in spite of policy against it, I know they've got many, many
> music files, etc, that they shouldn't have. I also need to clean that up.
> Even after I do, I'll still have multiple hundreds of gigs of valid files.
>
> > 2) Is it possible to upgade to Windows 2003 R2, to take advantage of
> DFS-R?
>
> That part I can do/mostly have done.
>
> > In a typical roaming profile environment, DFS should be a fairly
> > decent solution. We found that in a terminal service/Citrix
> > environment, especially with multiple application silos, DFS and
> > DFS-R was a pain and ultimately unsupported.
>
> We don't use roaming profiles, no. And we're not a terminal server/Citrix
> environment.
>
> > If using DFS-R/FRS, you wouldn't have to worry about
> > backup/restores, as the data would be replicated for you. Again,
> > this would require hosting all user profiles on all of your servers
> > to maintain continuity.
>
> Yeah, and that's the part I don't see happening, due to the storage and
> the huge bandwidth issues (those huundreds of gigs have to fully
> replicate, at least at first. After that, I'm sure it's manageable use of
> bandwidth, to replicate changes).
>
> > Clients will connect to the DFS server within their site. You could
> > implement some type of redundancy/load balancing as well by adding
> > multiple servers to your Folder Targets. You can control which
> > servers clients connect to using referral ordering.
>
> Hmmm ...
>
> > Again, I don't have much experiencing using FRS, but from my
> > experienc

RE: OT VMWorld 2009

[Free, Bob]

71 deg at first pitch at PacBell Park at 7:14 last night FWIW 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT VMWorld 2009

 

Thx. Yeah, it's been pretty chilly there, definitely not like Florida.
It'll be a nice change.

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT VMWorld 2009

 

Take a couple of sweaters and a coat as you really will be chilling.
The family and I just got back from the SF area early this month and the
better half would only say how cold she was all the time.  Noon time
temps depending on the fog/atmosphere can keep the temps in the 50's to
60's.  Nothing like Florida.

 

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM, John Cook  wrote:

I'll think about you while I'm chilin in SF ;-p

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:00 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT VMWorld 2009 

 

Nope, you'll be the only person there.

 

Damnit couldn't resist, bad methere goes the S/N ratio...

 

Dave

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT VMWorld 2009

 

Anyone besides me heading to San Fran for VMWorld?

 

 

    

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Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Richard Stovall]

I say Tomato, you say DD-WRT.  Let's call the whole thing fff.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:
> See if your router is supported by DD-WRT.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>>
>> I have 2 in my neighborhood that are open but I refuse to look when I go
>> to someones home at what the neighbors are doing.  I feel it is not my
>> business to advertise that someone is unsecured.  I do on the other hand try
>> to keep my clients safe and I am very thankful that someone started this
>> thread.  I am looking at securing mine but doubt I will be able to as it is
>> about 3 to 5 years old now and listed as EOL by the manufacturer.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Murray Freeman 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another concer, but for people who don't have a WIFI, or who just like
>>> to mooch, is the fake "Public WIFI" that are 'default' and unsecured. I
>>> understand that these are used by unscrupulous people to capture
>>> personal info. Every now and then, I see one of those in my
>>> neighborhood.
>>>
>>>
>>> Murray
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
>>> > around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?
>>>
>>>  For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone looking to
>>> mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover their
>>> tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
>>> address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For this sort
>>> of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a less
>>> secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms don't
>>> make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it easier
>>> to steal the car parked next to yours.
>>>
>>>  Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.
>>>
>>>  Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break in to
>>> for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here would
>>> actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
>>> typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting sophisticated
>>> countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might (*might*)
>>> actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see that as a
>>> sign that your network has something to hide.
>>>
>>>  I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal credit
>>> card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that seems
>>> unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and offers
>>> little reward, and there are much easier alternatives (spyware).
>>>
>>> -- Ben
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>>>   ~
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Joe Tinney]

Regarding the 'Public WiFi' SSID you always see being broadcast as an ad
hoc network: http://www.nmrc.org/pub/advise/20060114.txt. In short, once
you try and join one of those ad hoc networks your system then begins to
rebroadcast that SSID. That is what I attribute to the constant 'Free
Public Wifi' offerings I see constantly. 

That means that someone was still 'Patient Zero' and they probably are
used as honeypots to grab peoples personal info some of the time. But
when a rash of them appeared here at work I went digging and that is
when I found this info.

This was released in 2006, along with this:
http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/09/free_public_wif.html
and was tested with XP SP2. Anyone happen to know if it was, in fact,
updated with Service Pack 3 and Vista/Win 7?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

Another concer, but for people who don't have a WIFI, or who just like
to mooch, is the fake "Public WIFI" that are 'default' and unsecured. I
understand that these are used by unscrupulous people to capture
personal info. Every now and then, I see one of those in my
neighborhood. 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking 
> around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?

  For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone looking to
mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover their
tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For this sort
of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a less
secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms don't
make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it easier
to steal the car parked next to yours.

  Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.

  Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break in to
for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here would
actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting sophisticated
countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might (*might*)
actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see that as a
sign that your network has something to hide.

  I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal credit
card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that seems
unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and offers
little reward, and there are much easier alternatives (spyware).

-- Ben

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Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jon Harris]

Sad to say this being Florida but I know only about 4 of my neighbors now.
The ones I know are all secured with at least WPA I see several very low
signals and would not have a clue as to owns them.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Murray Freeman  wrote:

>  While I'm not friendly with the neighbor directly behind me, they are
> nice people. So, a couple of years ago, I noticed one day that their Access
> Point was no longer secured. I called them on the telephone and told them
> and they asked for help. It seems they purchased a new laptop and when they
> got it home they couldn't get into their Access Point. They called in the
> Geek Squad and a tech went on site to their home and "solved" the problem.
> He shut off the WEP on the Access Point so the new laptop could connect. The
> people then restored the WEP on their Access Point and the next day I could
> see they were "protected". Since then they have upgraded to WPA2, and we're
> the only 2 in our neighborhood who are. I just felt that I was doing them a
> favor, and so no reason not to help them out.
>
>
> *Murray *
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2009 3:35 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute
>
>   I have 2 in my neighborhood that are open but I refuse to look when I go
> to someones home at what the neighbors are doing.  I feel it is not my
> business to advertise that someone is unsecured.  I do on the other hand try
> to keep my clients safe and I am very thankful that someone started this
> thread.  I am looking at securing mine but doubt I will be able to as it is
> about 3 to 5 years old now and listed as EOL by the manufacturer.
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Murray Freeman wrote:
>
>> Another concer, but for people who don't have a WIFI, or who just like
>> to mooch, is the fake "Public WIFI" that are 'default' and unsecured. I
>> understand that these are used by unscrupulous people to capture
>> personal info. Every now and then, I see one of those in my
>> neighborhood.
>>
>>
>> Murray
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute
>>
>>  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
>> > around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?
>>
>>  For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone looking to
>> mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover their
>> tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
>> address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For this sort
>> of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a less
>> secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms don't
>> make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it easier
>> to steal the car parked next to yours.
>>
>>  Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.
>>
>>  Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break in to
>> for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here would
>> actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
>> typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting sophisticated
>> countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might (*might*)
>> actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see that as a
>> sign that your network has something to hide.
>>
>>  I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal credit
>> card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that seems
>> unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and offers
>> little reward, and there are much easier alternatives (spyware).
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>>   ~
>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: OT VMWorld 2009

[John Cook]

Thx. Yeah, it's been pretty chilly there, definitely not like Florida. It'll be 
a nice change.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT VMWorld 2009

Take a couple of sweaters and a coat as you really will be chilling.  The 
family and I just got back from the SF area early this month and the better 
half would only say how cold she was all the time.  Noon time temps depending 
on the fog/atmosphere can keep the temps in the 50's to 60's.  Nothing like 
Florida.

Jon
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:

I'll think about you while I'm chilin in SF ;-p



John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:00 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT VMWorld 2009



Nope, you'll be the only person there.



Damnit couldn't resist, bad methere goes the S/N ratio...



Dave



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT VMWorld 2009



Anyone besides me heading to San Fran for VMWorld?





  

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Re: OT VMWorld 2009

[Jon Harris]

Take a couple of sweaters and a coat as you really will be chilling.  The
family and I just got back from the SF area early this month and the better
half would only say how cold she was all the time.  Noon time temps
depending on the fog/atmosphere can keep the temps in the 50's to 60's.
Nothing like Florida.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM, John Cook  wrote:

>  I’ll think about you while I’m chilin in SF ;-p
>
>
>
> *John W. Cook*
>
> *Systems Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *315 SE 2nd Ave*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32601*
>
> *Office (352) 393-2741 x320*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *Fax (352) 393-2746*
>
> *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2009 5:00 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT VMWorld 2009
>
>
>
> Nope, you’ll be the only person there.
>
>
>
> Damnit couldn’t resist, bad me….there goes the S/N ratio…
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2009 12:16 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT VMWorld 2009
>
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>
> Anyone besides me heading to San Fran for VMWorld?
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Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jonathan Link]

See if your router is supported by DD-WRT.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> I have 2 in my neighborhood that are open but I refuse to look when I go to
> someones home at what the neighbors are doing.  I feel it is not my business
> to advertise that someone is unsecured.  I do on the other hand try to keep
> my clients safe and I am very thankful that someone started this thread.  I
> am looking at securing mine but doubt I will be able to as it is about 3 to
> 5 years old now and listed as EOL by the manufacturer.
>
> Jon
>
>   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Murray Freeman wrote:
>
>> Another concer, but for people who don't have a WIFI, or who just like
>> to mooch, is the fake "Public WIFI" that are 'default' and unsecured. I
>> understand that these are used by unscrupulous people to capture
>> personal info. Every now and then, I see one of those in my
>> neighborhood.
>>
>>
>> Murray
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute
>>
>>  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
>> > around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?
>>
>>  For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone looking to
>> mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover their
>> tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
>> address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For this sort
>> of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a less
>> secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms don't
>> make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it easier
>> to steal the car parked next to yours.
>>
>>  Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.
>>
>>  Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break in to
>> for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here would
>> actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
>> typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting sophisticated
>> countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might (*might*)
>> actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see that as a
>> sign that your network has something to hide.
>>
>>  I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal credit
>> card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that seems
>> unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and offers
>> little reward, and there are much easier alternatives (spyware).
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>>   ~
>>
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>> ~   ~
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RE: OCS 2007

[Davies,Matt]

On the OCS2007R2 resource kit there is the enterprise voice route helper 
utility that may help.



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 28 August 2009 21:52
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OCS 2007

Actually we are using the full enterprise voice kit, now that I check into the 
OCS 2007 phrases. This was set up by a consultant who didn't test everything 
obviously, and is now mine to fix. And I don't even know all the relevant 
buzz-words for it yet :-(
2009/8/28 James Rankin mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>>
Call control
2009/8/28 Davies,Matt 
mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com>>


Are you doing call control or enterprise voice  with OCS ?







From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 28 August 2009 21:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OCS 2007



Anyone know how to compose phone normalization rules for OCS 2007? I am having 
a nightmare with this, they use .Net regular expressions, and I am struggling 
to get to grips with them. Does anyone have any examples they'd care to share 
that are perhaps more straightforward than the ones supplied by MS in the 
install folders?

The reason I need to do this (I think) is because I have put all the mobile 
contact numbers in AD in international dialling code format because OCS doesn't 
recognise them any other way in the default install mode, and when users are 
trying to call them, it simply isn't working. Inputting the number manually 
into the software (without the +44 and just the leading 0) works fine. So I 
think it needs these normalization rules to interpret the non-international 
number formatsor I could be completely wrong and maybe someone needs to 
point out the error of my ways. I have no experience with OCS really, it has 
just been dumped on me to figure out, and now it is after 9pm and my head is 
starting to hurt.

As usual, all tips, links, hints and verbal slaps gratefully received :-)

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RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Murray Freeman]

While I'm not friendly with the neighbor directly behind me, they are
nice people. So, a couple of years ago, I noticed one day that their
Access Point was no longer secured. I called them on the telephone and
told them and they asked for help. It seems they purchased a new laptop
and when they got it home they couldn't get into their Access Point.
They called in the Geek Squad and a tech went on site to their home and
"solved" the problem. He shut off the WEP on the Access Point so the new
laptop could connect. The people then restored the WEP on their Access
Point and the next day I could see they were "protected". Since then
they have upgraded to WPA2, and we're the only 2 in our neighborhood who
are. I just felt that I was doing them a favor, and so no reason not to
help them out.
 

Murray 

 



From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute


I have 2 in my neighborhood that are open but I refuse to look when I go
to someones home at what the neighbors are doing.  I feel it is not my
business to advertise that someone is unsecured.  I do on the other hand
try to keep my clients safe and I am very thankful that someone started
this thread.  I am looking at securing mine but doubt I will be able to
as it is about 3 to 5 years old now and listed as EOL by the
manufacturer.
 
Jon


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Murray Freeman 
wrote:


Another concer, but for people who don't have a WIFI, or who
just like
to mooch, is the fake "Public WIFI" that are 'default' and
unsecured. I
understand that these are used by unscrupulous people to capture
personal info. Every now and then, I see one of those in my
neighborhood.


Murray



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is
lurking
> around with the technology/desire to break into your home
network?

 For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone
looking to
mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover
their
tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For
this sort
of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a
less
secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms
don't
make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it
easier
to steal the car parked next to yours.

 Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.

 Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break
in to
for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here
would
actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting
sophisticated
countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might
(*might*)
actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see
that as a
sign that your network has something to hide.

 I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal
credit
card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that
seems
unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and
offers
little reward, and there are much easier alternatives (spyware).

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog!
~ ~
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog!
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RE: OT VMWorld 2009

[John Cook]

I'll think about you while I'm chilin in SF ;-p

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT VMWorld 2009

Nope, you'll be the only person there.

Damnit couldn't resist, bad methere goes the S/N ratio...

Dave

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT VMWorld 2009

Anyone besides me heading to San Fran for VMWorld?


  
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RE: OCS 2007

[Davies,Matt]

Good luck :)

I take it you have found  the company phone number normalisation rules file on 
the OCS server ?

We spent a long time trying to get this to work with the Avaya communication 
manager, in the end I gave up with the trying to modify file on the OCS server 
and used the Avaya AES server to modify everything.

I also told all the users, that they had to use the full international number, 
eg +44 207 123 1234, eventually everyone has got the hang of it.


Going back to the file I found the following article that helped.

http://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/schertz_jeff/Pages/Post.aspx?_ID=26

If you want to contact me off list to discuss further, feel free.

Cheers

Matt



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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 28 August 2009 21:45
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OCS 2007

Call control
2009/8/28 Davies,Matt 
mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com>>

Are you doing call control or enterprise voice  with OCS ?







From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 28 August 2009 21:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OCS 2007



Anyone know how to compose phone normalization rules for OCS 2007? I am having 
a nightmare with this, they use .Net regular expressions, and I am struggling 
to get to grips with them. Does anyone have any examples they'd care to share 
that are perhaps more straightforward than the ones supplied by MS in the 
install folders?

The reason I need to do this (I think) is because I have put all the mobile 
contact numbers in AD in international dialling code format because OCS doesn't 
recognise them any other way in the default install mode, and when users are 
trying to call them, it simply isn't working. Inputting the number manually 
into the software (without the +44 and just the leading 0) works fine. So I 
think it needs these normalization rules to interpret the non-international 
number formatsor I could be completely wrong and maybe someone needs to 
point out the error of my ways. I have no experience with OCS really, it has 
just been dumped on me to figure out, and now it is after 9pm and my head is 
starting to hurt.

As usual, all tips, links, hints and verbal slaps gratefully received :-)

--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

http://raythestray.blogspot.com






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RE: OT VMWorld 2009

[David Lum]

Nope, you'll be the only person there.

Damnit couldn't resist, bad methere goes the S/N ratio...

Dave

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT VMWorld 2009

Anyone besides me heading to San Fran for VMWorld?


  
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Re: OCS 2007

[James Rankin]

Actually we are using the full enterprise voice kit, now that I check into
the OCS 2007 phrases. This was set up by a consultant who didn't test
everything obviously, and is now mine to fix. And I don't even know all the
relevant buzz-words for it yet :-(

2009/8/28 James Rankin 

> Call control
>
> 2009/8/28 Davies,Matt 
>
>>  Are you doing call control or enterprise voice  with OCS ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> *Sent:* 28 August 2009 21:09
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* OCS 2007
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone know how to compose phone normalization rules for OCS 2007? I am
>> having a nightmare with this, they use .Net regular expressions, and I am
>> struggling to get to grips with them. Does anyone have any examples they'd
>> care to share that are perhaps more straightforward than the ones supplied
>> by MS in the install folders?
>>
>> The reason I need to do this (I think) is because I have put all the
>> mobile contact numbers in AD in international dialling code format because
>> OCS doesn't recognise them any other way in the default install mode, and
>> when users are trying to call them, it simply isn't working. Inputting the
>> number manually into the software (without the +44 and just the leading 0)
>> works fine. So I think it needs these normalization rules to interpret the
>> non-international number formatsor I could be completely wrong and maybe
>> someone needs to point out the error of my ways. I have no experience with
>> OCS really, it has just been dumped on me to figure out, and now it is after
>> 9pm and my head is starting to hurt.
>>
>> As usual, all tips, links, hints and verbal slaps gratefully received :-)
>>
>> --
>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
>> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
>> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
>> a question."
>>
>> http://raythestray.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> http://raythestray.blogspot.com
>



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"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

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UTF-8 setting in Outlook 2007

[Jon Harris]

Okay a while back there was a discussion going on about the strange and
wonderful world of UTF encoding of text in Outlook.  I was modifing a system
recently and found under Tool, Options(Tab), Mail Format(Tab), International
Options(button), at the bottom in Outlook 2007 the UTF-8 control.  I only
see this issue when reading in Gmail and don't plan on changing to using
Outlook for reading list mail so if someone wants to do further work and
determine which setting works and which does not have fun.

Jon Harris

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Re: OCS 2007

[James Rankin]

Call control

2009/8/28 Davies,Matt 

>  Are you doing call control or enterprise voice  with OCS ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* 28 August 2009 21:09
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OCS 2007
>
>
>
> Anyone know how to compose phone normalization rules for OCS 2007? I am
> having a nightmare with this, they use .Net regular expressions, and I am
> struggling to get to grips with them. Does anyone have any examples they'd
> care to share that are perhaps more straightforward than the ones supplied
> by MS in the install folders?
>
> The reason I need to do this (I think) is because I have put all the mobile
> contact numbers in AD in international dialling code format because OCS
> doesn't recognise them any other way in the default install mode, and when
> users are trying to call them, it simply isn't working. Inputting the number
> manually into the software (without the +44 and just the leading 0) works
> fine. So I think it needs these normalization rules to interpret the
> non-international number formatsor I could be completely wrong and maybe
> someone needs to point out the error of my ways. I have no experience with
> OCS really, it has just been dumped on me to figure out, and now it is after
> 9pm and my head is starting to hurt.
>
> As usual, all tips, links, hints and verbal slaps gratefully received :-)
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> http://raythestray.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

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Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jon Harris]

I have 2 in my neighborhood that are open but I refuse to look when I go to
someones home at what the neighbors are doing.  I feel it is not my business
to advertise that someone is unsecured.  I do on the other hand try to keep
my clients safe and I am very thankful that someone started this thread.  I
am looking at securing mine but doubt I will be able to as it is about 3 to
5 years old now and listed as EOL by the manufacturer.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Murray Freeman  wrote:

> Another concer, but for people who don't have a WIFI, or who just like
> to mooch, is the fake "Public WIFI" that are 'default' and unsecured. I
> understand that these are used by unscrupulous people to capture
> personal info. Every now and then, I see one of those in my
> neighborhood.
>
>
> Murray
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute
>
>  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
> > around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?
>
>  For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone looking to
> mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover their
> tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
> address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For this sort
> of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a less
> secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms don't
> make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it easier
> to steal the car parked next to yours.
>
>  Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.
>
>  Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break in to
> for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here would
> actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
> typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting sophisticated
> countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might (*might*)
> actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see that as a
> sign that your network has something to hide.
>
>  I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal credit
> card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that seems
> unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and offers
> little reward, and there are much easier alternatives (spyware).
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

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~   ~

RE: OCS 2007

[Davies,Matt]

Are you doing call control or enterprise voice  with OCS ?



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 28 August 2009 21:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OCS 2007

Anyone know how to compose phone normalization rules for OCS 2007? I am having 
a nightmare with this, they use .Net regular expressions, and I am struggling 
to get to grips with them. Does anyone have any examples they'd care to share 
that are perhaps more straightforward than the ones supplied by MS in the 
install folders?

The reason I need to do this (I think) is because I have put all the mobile 
contact numbers in AD in international dialling code format because OCS doesn't 
recognise them any other way in the default install mode, and when users are 
trying to call them, it simply isn't working. Inputting the number manually 
into the software (without the +44 and just the leading 0) works fine. So I 
think it needs these normalization rules to interpret the non-international 
number formatsor I could be completely wrong and maybe someone needs to 
point out the error of my ways. I have no experience with OCS really, it has 
just been dumped on me to figure out, and now it is after 9pm and my head is 
starting to hurt.

As usual, all tips, links, hints and verbal slaps gratefully received :-)

--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

http://raythestray.blogspot.com






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RE: Clipboard behavior (was: IE8 doesn't work!)

[Steven M. Caesare]

It is hard for me to force to replicate as well.

 

I found an article that states that the Office clipboard will be cleared
when the last office app is closed... but quick testing didn't appear to
mirror that... will have to play some more.

 

-sc

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Clipboard behavior (was: IE8 doesn't work!)

 

Steven.

I know I've seen this behavior too but can't remember when/where or what
application I was pasting to and from.

I can't repeat it now but I do know it happened.

It was on Vista and Office 2007 is installed.

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Clipboard behavior (was: IE8 doesn't work!)

 

Notice I didn't specify which direction. ;)

 

And to keep this on topic:

 

What is the deal with windows clipboard behavior these days, and when
they heck did it change??

 

It USED to be that whatever was copied to the clipboard STAYED there so
you could paste it multiple times. Now it seems that on some occasions a
multiple paste operation works, but in other cases once you paste once,
it's gone.

 

Is this app dependant? Perhaps about the same time Office started
supporting multiple clipboard payloads?

 

Any way to make it the way God intended it again?

 

-sc

 

From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:can...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE8 doesn't work!

 

-sc   <-- Balancing the SysAdmin noise ratio since 2009!

Dude - it's been *way* longer than that!

;)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Steven M. Caesare <
scaes...@caesare.com> wrote:

Cool.

 

 

 

 

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:01 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 doesn't work!

 

DOH! I forgot I'd hard-coded a proxy a few days ago for trying to test
international connectivity to our website. J Bet it works now! J

 

  

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 doesn't work!

 

Proxy defined by chance?

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 doesn't work!

 

I just installed the new IE 8 for Windows XP from Windows Update and now
IE doesn't work at all. I can't connect to Yahoo or anything! I've tried
CNN, I've tried Yahoo, I've tried Adobe. Nothing. All I ever get is
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage." Anyone got any idea
what's going on? Firefox still works, so I don't think it's my computer,
per se.

 

This is just crazy!

 



 

 

 

 

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com  
Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2331 - Release Date:
08/28/09 06:26:00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~   ~<><>

OCS 2007

[James Rankin]

Anyone know how to compose phone normalization rules for OCS 2007? I am
having a nightmare with this, they use .Net regular expressions, and I am
struggling to get to grips with them. Does anyone have any examples they'd
care to share that are perhaps more straightforward than the ones supplied
by MS in the install folders?

The reason I need to do this (I think) is because I have put all the mobile
contact numbers in AD in international dialling code format because OCS
doesn't recognise them any other way in the default install mode, and when
users are trying to call them, it simply isn't working. Inputting the number
manually into the software (without the +44 and just the leading 0) works
fine. So I think it needs these normalization rules to interpret the
non-international number formatsor I could be completely wrong and maybe
someone needs to point out the error of my ways. I have no experience with
OCS really, it has just been dumped on me to figure out, and now it is after
9pm and my head is starting to hurt.

As usual, all tips, links, hints and verbal slaps gratefully received :-)

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

[OT] Good NT sysadmin list?

[Kennedy, Jim]

I should have know that. Those are the tags used on SPAM-L, now I know why. 
That list doesn't accept messages unless you have them tagged properly.


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Good NT sysadmin list?

Ahh, good to know!

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
>> OT tags typically get lost in the replies.  People have to remember to
>> keep editing the subject line.
>
>  Outbreak -- I mean, Outlook -- tends to eat any two-letter prefix in
> the subject line.  (Grrr.)  I've noticed that square bracket tags,
> e.g., [OT], are not usually consumed by Lookout.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Clipboard behavior (was: IE8 doesn't work!)

[Glen Johnson]

Steven.

I know I've seen this behavior too but can't remember when/where or what
application I was pasting to and from.

I can't repeat it now but I do know it happened.

It was on Vista and Office 2007 is installed.

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Clipboard behavior (was: IE8 doesn't work!)

 

Notice I didn't specify which direction. ;)

 

And to keep this on topic:

 

What is the deal with windows clipboard behavior these days, and when
they heck did it change??

 

It USED to be that whatever was copied to the clipboard STAYED there so
you could paste it multiple times. Now it seems that on some occasions a
multiple paste operation works, but in other cases once you paste once,
it's gone.

 

Is this app dependant? Perhaps about the same time Office started
supporting multiple clipboard payloads?

 

Any way to make it the way God intended it again?

 

-sc

 

From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:can...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE8 doesn't work!

 

-sc   <-- Balancing the SysAdmin noise ratio since 2009!

Dude - it's been *way* longer than that!

;)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Steven M. Caesare <
scaes...@caesare.com> wrote:

Cool.

 

 

 

 

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:01 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 doesn't work!

 

DOH! I forgot I'd hard-coded a proxy a few days ago for trying to test
international connectivity to our website. J Bet it works now! J

 

  

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 doesn't work!

 

Proxy defined by chance?

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 doesn't work!

 

I just installed the new IE 8 for Windows XP from Windows Update and now
IE doesn't work at all. I can't connect to Yahoo or anything! I've tried
CNN, I've tried Yahoo, I've tried Adobe. Nothing. All I ever get is
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage." Anyone got any idea
what's going on? Firefox still works, so I don't think it's my computer,
per se.

 

This is just crazy!

 



 

 

 

 

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com  
Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2331 - Release Date:
08/28/09 06:26:00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Stu Sjouwerman]

[LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] 

Yup. And guess what? It's all my fault.
I take full responsibility for not doing a bit
more stringent 'policing' of the OT threads.

So, now...

BEHAVE! Y'hear?   ;-)

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


 
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Good NT sysadmin list?


  Anyone here know of a good email list to discuss NT sysadmin issues?

  Seriously, folks, the signal-to-noise ratio on this list is going to
hell.  Today we had 15 messages on the definition of a word (here's a
tip: www.google.com), 37 on a cartoon, 8 on banjos, 5 on the security
of Mac's, 7 that were basically bitching about lack of recognition in
one's job, 4 asking if the list was up (email asking if email was
working?!?), and 1 get-well wish in a 3-day-old banned thread.  That's
77.  Oh, and about 20 that were actually something like on-topic.
That's a ratio of about 4:1, or 25%.

  Twenty five percent.  Ponder that a bit.  Would you work for 25% of
your pay?  Would you pass a student with a 25% grade average?

  I  think it's one thing to have the occasional off-topic message or
thread, or occasional joke.  This is something else entirely.  This is
the occasional on-topic message in a sea of crap.  I've seen Stu kill
more threads in the past 7 days than I've seen him do in the previous
year.  Is it too much to ask that people act like adults and exercise
a little self-discipline?

  Whatever happened to "on-topic and low noise"?

  I realize I've been a sometime contributor to some of this myself,
and from this point forward I'm going to strive not to be.  I ask that
you please all join me in that.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


..

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~   ~

Re: Clipboard

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I agree.  The only time I've ever seen the clipboard get cleared is
because I am running security software that clears it for me
intentionally on a time-expire basis.

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>> So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get cleared
>> after certain operations?
>
>  In every version of Windows I've used (including Vista, not
> including Vista.1 AKA Win 7), and even the MS Office fancy clipboard,
> the standard behavior is you can paste the same thing multiple times.
>
>  I would do the standard drill: Disable startup programs, add-ons,
> non-essential services, shell extensions, etc.  Reboot.  See if the
> problem still happens.  If it goes away, isolate the cause by process
> of elimination.  (  If it persists, re-format.  :) )
>
>> The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed
>> my *on-topic* question about clipboard behavior ...
>
>  If I knew what the solution was, I would have posted it already.  :-p  :)
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT Good NT sysadmin list?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Ahh, good to know!

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
>> OT tags typically get lost in the replies.  People have to remember to
>> keep editing the subject line.
>
>  Outbreak -- I mean, Outlook -- tends to eat any two-letter prefix in
> the subject line.  (Grrr.)  I've noticed that square bracket tags,
> e.g., [OT], are not usually consumed by Lookout.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Clipboard

[RichardMcClary]

There may be a setting for this.  (In Oriface 2007, good luck finding it!)

A few hours ago I did a rather large copy-and-paste between Excel 
worksheets.  When I pasted, I got a popup saying the contents of my 
clipboard was "large", and would I like to clear the clip board after the 
paste.

Perhaps this can help you chase things down in the menus or the @#*& 
ribbon?
--
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"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 08/28/2009 02:37:17 
PM:

> Weird thing is that it happens on multiple systems but they all have
> Office2K7... I think it started with the clipboard mgr that showed up in
> Off2K3(?).
> 
> I think it's the office apps pulling data OFF the clipboard that does
> it... 
> 
> -sc
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:32 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Clipboard
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven M.
> > Caesare wrote:
> > > So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get
> > cleared
> > > after certain operations?
> > 
> >   In every version of Windows I've used (including Vista, not
> > including Vista.1 AKA Win 7), and even the MS Office fancy clipboard,
> > the standard behavior is you can paste the same thing multiple times.
> > 
> >   I would do the standard drill: Disable startup programs, add-ons,
> > non-essential services, shell extensions, etc.  Reboot.  See if the
> > problem still happens.  If it goes away, isolate the cause by process
> > of elimination.  (  If it persists, re-format.  :) )
> > 
> > > The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed
> > > my *on-topic* question about clipboard behavior ...
> > 
> >   If I knew what the solution was, I would have posted it already.
> :-p
> > :)
> > 
> > -- Ben
> > 
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
> 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles - DFS questions

[Michael . Leone]

Sean Martin  wrote on 08/28/2009 03:35:50 PM:

> > AH! DFS moved back into the realm of possible (for us). Without
> > replication, I don't need as the full amount of storage at each site,
> > enough to support *all* users; I'd really only need enough storage to
> > support the number of users who can physically fit into the site ... 
(plus
> > some as overflow, of course).
>  
> That is correct.

W00t! One in a row, for me. LOL

> > So I would need to make sure all my site info is correct and 
up-to-date
>  
> That would definitely help. 

Two! A streak ...

> > So what happens in this case:
>  
> > User at Server_A/Site_A moves to Site_B. I don't know about this move.
> > When the user logs in, DFS tries to map his profile to a server in his
> > site. But there is no server in Site_B with a copy of his files (yet).
> > Does he get an error?
>  
> You keep using the term "profile" but since you stated you don't use
> roaming profiles, I'm assuming this is just a personal directory (my
> documents, etc.). 

Right. Sorry; I mean "home folder", as specified on the "Profile" tab of 
the properties of a user. We connect this to drive "Z:" in AD.

> If that's the case, I would imagine some type of 
> error would be presented during login indicating the target wasn't 
> accessible. 
>  
> > Does he just (transparently) connect long-distance back to his files 
at
> > Site_A?
>  
> No, I believe that mapping would simply not exist during the session.

That would need testing; I seem to recall that if Windows can't find it's 
"My Documents" (which we re-direct to the user's home folder), it can just 
sort of hang and never log in. And if there's no home folder to find "My 
Documents" ...

But I'm old; it's Friday; and I might be mis-remembering ...

> > When I do the backup/restore of his files to Site_B, he should Just 
Work.
> > (He'd have to be logged out while I did the backup/restore, right?)
>  
> Yes it would require he logoff/logon after the data has been restored.

OK! Definitely ammunition for a pilot project, after we finally get 2003 
AD in place.

Thanks everybody. That was a whole lotta signal for a Friday. LOL

>  
> - Sean

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM,  wrote:
> Sean Martin  wrote on 08/28/2009 02:31:17 PM:
> 
> > You can certainly implement DFS without replication. You would
> > simply need to follow your same procedures of backup/restore,
> > copying, etc. when a user moves from one site to another. It would
> > just eliminate the need for modifying the user's profile path. Keep
> > in mind that you'll need to modify your folder redirection GPO with
> > the DFS path as well.

> AH! DFS moved back into the realm of possible (for us). Without
> replication, I don't need as the full amount of storage at each site,
> enough to support *all* users; I'd really only need enough storage to
> support the number of users who can physically fit into the site ... 
(plus
> some as overflow, of course).
> 
> > When a user accesses a DFS Namespace, DFS will determine which
> > member of that namespace to direct the connection to based on the
> > site they're logging in from.

> So I would need to make sure all my site info is correct and up-to-date
> ...
> 
> So what happens in this case:
> 
> User at Server_A/Site_A moves to Site_B. I don't know about this move.
> When the user logs in, DFS tries to map his profile to a server in his
> site. But there is no server in Site_B with a copy of his files (yet).
> 
> Does he get an error?
> Does he just (transparently) connect long-distance back to his files at
> Site_A?
> When I do the backup/restore of his files to Site_B, he should Just 
Work.
> (He'd have to be logged out while I did the backup/restore, right?)
> 
> > If you decided to use replication, DFS-R in Windows 2003 has pretty
> > good compression capabilities, as well as the ability to only
> > replicate changes to files. I had 600GB of user profiles/home
> > directories replicating between 4 servers and I routinely had
> > a reduction rate of 97% or greater. Example: If over a certain
> > period of time, 1TB of data was modified and needed to replicate,
> > DFS-R's compression and replication would only transfer 31GB.

> Good to know. Thanks!
> 
> >
> > Sean
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:43 AM,  wrote:
> > Jon Harris  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:29:07 PM:
> >
> > > I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003
> > > was better and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have
> > > issues with DFS.  That is assuming he is still running all of his
> > > file servers on 2000, he does not say.
> >
> > 4 file servers are Win2003; one is still Win2000. That one is 
scheduled
> to
> > be upgraded to Win2003 in a couple months.
> >
> > We are also going to be going to 2003 AD later this year. (and 2008 AD
> > next year)
> >
> > So at some soon-to-be furute point, I will have 5 file servers, all at
> > 2003 AD, scattered about, all in a 2003 AD. If I do implement DFS, it
> > would

Re: Clipboard

[RichardMcClary]

+1 with respect to the last statement...

Generally, if you do not get a usable answer to a problem within a few 
hours, it's because everybody is stumped.

People posting real questions typically are neither ignored nor lost in 
all the OT postings.

However, it is extrememly frustrating to keep coming back to the list, 
possibly scrolling through a screen or two of postings, and not finding 
any reply to your question.  Nothing but patience here - this is a great 
list!!!
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Ben Scott  wrote on 08/28/2009 02:31:30 PM:

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare com> wrote:
> > So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get 
cleared
> > after certain operations?
> 
>   In every version of Windows I've used (including Vista, not
> including Vista.1 AKA Win 7), and even the MS Office fancy clipboard,
> the standard behavior is you can paste the same thing multiple times.
> 
>   I would do the standard drill: Disable startup programs, add-ons,
> non-essential services, shell extensions, etc.  Reboot.  See if the
> problem still happens.  If it goes away, isolate the cause by process
> of elimination.  (  If it persists, re-format.  :) )
> 
> > The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed
> > my *on-topic* question about clipboard behavior ...
> 
>   If I knew what the solution was, I would have posted it already.  :-p 
:)
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Clipboard

[Steven M. Caesare]

Weird thing is that it happens on multiple systems but they all have
Office2K7... I think it started with the clipboard mgr that showed up in
Off2K3(?).

I think it's the office apps pulling data OFF the clipboard that does
it... 

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Clipboard
> 
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven M.
> Caesare wrote:
> > So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get
> cleared
> > after certain operations?
> 
>   In every version of Windows I've used (including Vista, not
> including Vista.1 AKA Win 7), and even the MS Office fancy clipboard,
> the standard behavior is you can paste the same thing multiple times.
> 
>   I would do the standard drill: Disable startup programs, add-ons,
> non-essential services, shell extensions, etc.  Reboot.  See if the
> problem still happens.  If it goes away, isolate the cause by process
> of elimination.  (  If it persists, re-format.  :) )
> 
> > The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed
> > my *on-topic* question about clipboard behavior ...
> 
>   If I knew what the solution was, I would have posted it already.
:-p
> :)
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles - DFS questions

[Sean Martin]

> AH! DFS moved back into the realm of possible (for us). Without
> replication, I don't need as the full amount of storage at each site,
> enough to support *all* users; I'd really only need enough storage to
> support the number of users who can physically fit into the site ... (plus
> some as overflow, of course).

That is correct.

> So I would need to make sure all my site info is correct and up-to-date

That would definitely help.

> So what happens in this case:

> User at Server_A/Site_A moves to Site_B. I don't know about this move.
> When the user logs in, DFS tries to map his profile to a server in his
> site. But there is no server in Site_B with a copy of his files (yet).
> Does he get an error?

You keep using the term "profile" but since you stated you don't use roaming
profiles, I'm assuming this is just a personal directory (my documents,
etc.). If that's the case, I would imagine some type of error would be
presented during login indicating the target wasn't accessible.

> Does he just (transparently) connect long-distance back to his files at
> Site_A?

No, I believe that mapping would simply not exist during the session.

> When I do the backup/restore of his files to Site_B, he should Just Work.
> (He'd have to be logged out while I did the backup/restore, right?)

Yes it would require he logoff/logon after the data has been restored.

- Sean

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM,  wrote:

> Sean Martin  wrote on 08/28/2009 02:31:17 PM:
>
> > You can certainly implement DFS without replication. You would
> > simply need to follow your same procedures of backup/restore,
> > copying, etc. when a user moves from one site to another. It would
> > just eliminate the need for modifying the user's profile path. Keep
> > in mind that you'll need to modify your folder redirection GPO with
> > the DFS path as well.
>
> AH! DFS moved back into the realm of possible (for us). Without
> replication, I don't need as the full amount of storage at each site,
> enough to support *all* users; I'd really only need enough storage to
> support the number of users who can physically fit into the site ... (plus
> some as overflow, of course).
>
> > When a user accesses a DFS Namespace, DFS will determine which
> > member of that namespace to direct the connection to based on the
> > site they're logging in from.
>
> So I would need to make sure all my site info is correct and up-to-date
> ...
>
> So what happens in this case:
>
> User at Server_A/Site_A moves to Site_B. I don't know about this move.
> When the user logs in, DFS tries to map his profile to a server in his
> site. But there is no server in Site_B with a copy of his files (yet).
>
> Does he get an error?
> Does he just (transparently) connect long-distance back to his files at
> Site_A?
> When I do the backup/restore of his files to Site_B, he should Just Work.
> (He'd have to be logged out while I did the backup/restore, right?)
>
> > If you decided to use replication, DFS-R in Windows 2003 has pretty
> > good compression capabilities, as well as the ability to only
> > replicate changes to files. I had 600GB of user profiles/home
> > directories replicating between 4 servers and I routinely had
> > a reduction rate of 97% or greater. Example: If over a certain
> > period of time, 1TB of data was modified and needed to replicate,
> > DFS-R's compression and replication would only transfer 31GB.
>
> Good to know. Thanks!
>
> >
> > Sean
>
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:43 AM,  wrote:
> > Jon Harris  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:29:07 PM:
> >
> > > I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003
> > > was better and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have
> > > issues with DFS.  That is assuming he is still running all of his
> > > file servers on 2000, he does not say.
> >
> > 4 file servers are Win2003; one is still Win2000. That one is scheduled
> to
> > be upgraded to Win2003 in a couple months.
> >
> > We are also going to be going to 2003 AD later this year. (and 2008 AD
> > next year)
> >
> > So at some soon-to-be furute point, I will have 5 file servers, all at
> > 2003 AD, scattered about, all in a 2003 AD. If I do implement DFS, it
> > would be after all that.
> >
> > I guess I'm still unclear about the replication aspects of DFS. I get
> the
> > idea that I wouldn't need (num of servers x amount of each server
> storage)
> > at each site, but I am struggling to understand then how I am cutting
> out
> > bandwidth. I can see where I might be reducing it, but:
> >
> > If a person moves from Server #1 to Server #2, and I am using DFS, how
> > (what method occurs) does that user not be accessing his/her files over
> > the WAN link, if I am not replicating all their files to Server #2? I
> > suppose that is my fundamental knowledge block, at the moment.
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> >
> >
>
> ~ Fina

Re: OT Good NT sysadmin list?

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> OT tags typically get lost in the replies.  People have to remember to
> keep editing the subject line.

  Outbreak -- I mean, Outlook -- tends to eat any two-letter prefix in
the subject line.  (Grrr.)  I've noticed that square bracket tags,
e.g., [OT], are not usually consumed by Lookout.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Clipboard

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:
> So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get cleared
> after certain operations?

  In every version of Windows I've used (including Vista, not
including Vista.1 AKA Win 7), and even the MS Office fancy clipboard,
the standard behavior is you can paste the same thing multiple times.

  I would do the standard drill: Disable startup programs, add-ons,
non-essential services, shell extensions, etc.  Reboot.  See if the
problem still happens.  If it goes away, isolate the cause by process
of elimination.  (  If it persists, re-format.  :) )

> The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed
> my *on-topic* question about clipboard behavior ...

  If I knew what the solution was, I would have posted it already.  :-p  :)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Clearly you are having a hard time grasping the concept currently
under discussion.

;-)

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM, James Rankin wrote:
> As a long-time reader and occasional simple technical contributor, I'd have
> to say that I enjoy this list exactly the way it is...however, if I wasn't
> using Gmail, I would probably change my tune slightly. But it is very nice
> to be able to call on contacts globally to help me out of those strange
> problems that support guys encounter on a regular basis. My colleagues think
> I am bizarrely gifted to come up with new angles for problems after a period
> of thought, when really all I do is post a question on here :-)
>
> I also get some good laughs to lighten up my day, which is essential when
> dealing with some of the idiots I am blessed to call the upper echelons of
> management
>
> 2009/8/28 
>>
>> Anyway, please don't leave us!  You've helped me out of quite
>> --
>> Richard D. McClary
>> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
>>
>> ASPCA®
>> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
>> Urbana, IL  61802
>>
>> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>>
>> P: 217-337-9761
>> C: 217-417-1182
>> F: 217-337-9761
>> www.aspca.org
>>
>>
>> The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is
>> from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®)
>> and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may
>> contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not
>> the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any
>> dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail,
>> and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>> this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and
>> permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout
>> thereof.
>>   a few DNS snags!
>>
>> Ben Scott  wrote on 08/28/2009 01:46:50 PM:
>>
>> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>> >  wrote:
>> > > I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.
>> >
>> >   Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
>> > this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
>> > fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
>> > draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
>> > that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
>> > I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
>> > All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
>> > having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
>> > improvement, given recent trends.
>> >
>> > > Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
>> >
>> >   I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
>> > threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
>> > mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
>> > Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
>> > technical discussions.
>> >
>> > -- Ben
>> >
>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> > ~   ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> http://raythestray.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

OT VMWorld 2009

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RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Murray Freeman]

I'm on a number of other non-computer related lists, and for some reason
people just don't understand or perhaps are too lazy to change a subject
line when going off topic or just opening a new subject for discussion.
Some people need "training". I go into a lot of trouble on one list
because a guy kept cutting and pasting without checking who had really
made the statements in question. So I got full credit for some stupid
comments that I had never made. I went off list and explained to the guy
what he had caused, and he cleaned up his act, but he never made a post
stipulating that I hadn't made the comments that I got credit for.
Basically, if people just indicate in the SUBJECT what they are posting
about if different then the ongoing discussion, all lists would be less
noisey. To be honest, i never read nor respond to "Friday Funny" or
other non-system related posts, because I'm not interested, but at least
I don't bother to open the email. I certainly don't allow large numbers
of postings to accumulate to be read after hours or at a later time. I
check this list regularly several times each day and read what interests
me and immediately delete the rest. I find no problem with this list,
but maybe I should watch closer to find out what Shookie is all about.
LOL
 

Murray 

 



From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?



The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed my
*on-topic* question about clipboard behavior, but we've had a bazillion
off-topic posts about not posting about off-topic subjects, as well as
duplicate requests (one plain text, one HTML) to fill out a survey to
vote for a product that many people don't even use.

 

So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get cleared
after certain operations?

 

Thanks.

 

-sc

 

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

 

SC would you post that OT discussion list again?  Thanks ;)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.

 Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
improvement, given recent trends.


> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

 I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
technical discussions.


-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[James Rankin]

As a long-time reader and occasional simple technical contributor, I'd have
to say that I enjoy this list exactly the way it is...however, if I wasn't
using Gmail, I would probably change my tune slightly. But it is very nice
to be able to call on contacts globally to help me out of those strange
problems that support guys encounter on a regular basis. My colleagues think
I am bizarrely gifted to come up with new angles for problems after a period
of thought, when really all I do is post a question on here :-)

I also get some good laughs to lighten up my day, which is essential when
dealing with some of the idiots I am blessed to call the upper echelons of
management

2009/8/28 

>
> Anyway, please don't leave us!  You've helped me out of quite
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
>
> *ASPCA®*
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
> *www.aspca.org* 
>
>
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> ®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may
> contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not
> the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any
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> and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
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>   a few DNS snags!
>
> Ben Scott  wrote on 08/28/2009 01:46:50 PM:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
> >  wrote:
> > > I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.
> >
> >   Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
> > this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
> > fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
> > draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
> > that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
> > I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
> > All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
> > having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
> > improvement, given recent trends.
> >
> > > Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
> >
> >   I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
> > threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
> > mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
> > Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
> > technical discussions.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT Good NT sysadmin list?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

is tagging a new word for shagging?

OT tags typically get lost in the replies.  People have to remember to
keep editing the subject line.

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Andy Shook wrote:
> I don’t condone group tagging.
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> I think this whole issue could be resolved if we tagged our subjects. Then
> both ‘sides’ can live in harmony.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Umm, no thread stealing!  Go create a new on-topic message from
scratch ya bastid!

But sorry, no, I dont have an answer to that question.  I can recall
seeing clipboard utilities listed on download sites in the past, but I
have never looked into them, so I dont know exactly what they are
meant to do.

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:
> The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed my
> *on-topic* question about clipboard behavior, but we’ve had a bazillion
> off-topic posts about not posting about off-topic subjects, as well as
> duplicate requests (one plain text, one HTML) to fill out a survey to vote
> for a product that many people don’t even use.
>
>
>
> So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get cleared
> after certain operations?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> SC would you post that OT discussion list again?  Thanks ;)
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
>> I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.
>
>  Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
> this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
> fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
> draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
> that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
> I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
> All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
> having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
> improvement, given recent trends.
>
>> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
>
>  I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
> threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
> mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
> Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
> technical discussions.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Murray Freeman]

Another concer, but for people who don't have a WIFI, or who just like
to mooch, is the fake "Public WIFI" that are 'default' and unsecured. I
understand that these are used by unscrupulous people to capture
personal info. Every now and then, I see one of those in my
neighborhood. 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking 
> around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?

  For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone looking to
mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover their
tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For this sort
of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a less
secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms don't
make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it easier
to steal the car parked next to yours.

  Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.

  Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break in to
for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here would
actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting sophisticated
countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might (*might*)
actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see that as a
sign that your network has something to hide.

  I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal credit
card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that seems
unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and offers
little reward, and there are much easier alternatives (spyware).

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: OT Good NT sysadmin list?

[Andy Shook]

I don't condone group tagging.

Shook

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT Good NT sysadmin list?

I think this whole issue could be resolved if we tagged our subjects. Then both 
'sides' can live in harmony.











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles - DFS questions

[Michael . Leone]

Sean Martin  wrote on 08/28/2009 02:31:17 PM:

> You can certainly implement DFS without replication. You would 
> simply need to follow your same procedures of backup/restore, 
> copying, etc. when a user moves from one site to another. It would 
> just eliminate the need for modifying the user's profile path. Keep 
> in mind that you'll need to modify your folder redirection GPO with 
> the DFS path as well.

AH! DFS moved back into the realm of possible (for us). Without 
replication, I don't need as the full amount of storage at each site, 
enough to support *all* users; I'd really only need enough storage to 
support the number of users who can physically fit into the site ... (plus 
some as overflow, of course).

> When a user accesses a DFS Namespace, DFS will determine which 
> member of that namespace to direct the connection to based on the 
> site they're logging in from. 

So I would need to make sure all my site info is correct and up-to-date 
...

So what happens in this case:

User at Server_A/Site_A moves to Site_B. I don't know about this move. 
When the user logs in, DFS tries to map his profile to a server in his 
site. But there is no server in Site_B with a copy of his files (yet).

Does he get an error? 
Does he just (transparently) connect long-distance back to his files at 
Site_A?
When I do the backup/restore of his files to Site_B, he should Just Work.
(He'd have to be logged out while I did the backup/restore, right?)

> If you decided to use replication, DFS-R in Windows 2003 has pretty 
> good compression capabilities, as well as the ability to only 
> replicate changes to files. I had 600GB of user profiles/home 
> directories replicating between 4 servers and I routinely had 
> a reduction rate of 97% or greater. Example: If over a certain 
> period of time, 1TB of data was modified and needed to replicate, 
> DFS-R's compression and replication would only transfer 31GB.

Good to know. Thanks!

>  
> Sean

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:43 AM,  wrote:
> Jon Harris  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:29:07 PM:
> 
> > I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003
> > was better and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have
> > issues with DFS.  That is assuming he is still running all of his
> > file servers on 2000, he does not say.
> 
> 4 file servers are Win2003; one is still Win2000. That one is scheduled 
to
> be upgraded to Win2003 in a couple months.
> 
> We are also going to be going to 2003 AD later this year. (and 2008 AD
> next year)
> 
> So at some soon-to-be furute point, I will have 5 file servers, all at
> 2003 AD, scattered about, all in a 2003 AD. If I do implement DFS, it
> would be after all that.
> 
> I guess I'm still unclear about the replication aspects of DFS. I get 
the
> idea that I wouldn't need (num of servers x amount of each server 
storage)
> at each site, but I am struggling to understand then how I am cutting 
out
> bandwidth. I can see where I might be reducing it, but:
> 
> If a person moves from Server #1 to Server #2, and I am using DFS, how
> (what method occurs) does that user not be accessing his/her files over
> the WAN link, if I am not replicating all their files to Server #2? I
> suppose that is my fundamental knowledge block, at the moment.
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
> 
> 
> 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

OT Good NT sysadmin list?

[Kennedy, Jim]

I think this whole issue could be resolved if we tagged our subjects. Then both 
'sides' can live in harmony.







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Steven M. Caesare]

The irony in all of this is that not a single person has addressed my
*on-topic* question about clipboard behavior, but we've had a bazillion
off-topic posts about not posting about off-topic subjects, as well as
duplicate requests (one plain text, one HTML) to fill out a survey to
vote for a product that many people don't even use.

 

So I ask again, any ideas how to force the clipboard to not get cleared
after certain operations?

 

Thanks.

 

-sc

 

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

 

SC would you post that OT discussion list again?  Thanks ;)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.

 Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
improvement, given recent trends.


> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

 I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
technical discussions.


-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking around
> with the technology/desire to break into your home network?

  For a home network, the biggest threat is probabbly someone looking
to mooch Internet access.  Possibly a criminal looking to cover their
tracks.  (How would you like kiddie porn being traced to your IP
address?)  These aren't targeted attacks; anyone will do.  For this
sort of thing, the best countermeasure is to have a neighbor with a
less secure access point.  Same principle as car alarms: Car alarms
don't make it impossible to steal your car; rather, they just make it
easier to steal the car parked next to yours.

  Targeted attacks seem a lot less likely for home networks.

  Certainly, some people/organizations scan for networks to break in
to for data mining purposes.  I'd guess the most likely attack here
would actually come from someone looking for corporate networks (they
typically are of higher value).  In this case, enacting sophisticated
countermeasures -- like turning off SSID broadcast -- might (*might*)
actually draw attention: Attackers scanning the area might see that as
a sign that your network has something to hide.

  I suppose someone could go looking for home networks to steal credit
card numbers, etc., that might be stored on home PCs, but that seems
unlikely.  It's high risk (requires local physical presence) and
offers little reward, and there are much easier alternatives
(spyware).

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[RichardMcClary]

Anyway, please don't leave us!  You've helped me out of quite
--
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ASPCA®
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Ben Scott  wrote on 08/28/2009 01:46:50 PM:

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
> > I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.
> 
>   Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
> this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
> fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
> draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
> that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
> I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
> All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
> having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
> improvement, given recent trends.
> 
> > Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
> 
>   I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
> threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
> mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
> Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
> technical discussions.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Sherry Abercrombie]

SC would you post that OT discussion list again?  Thanks ;)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
> > I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.
>
>   Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
> this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
> fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
> draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
> that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
> I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
> All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
> having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
> improvement, given recent trends.
>
> > Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
>
>   I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
> threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
> mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
> Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
> technical discussions.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>



-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum.

  Since it seems that several people are having a hard time grasping
this concept, I will clarify: It is not the noise but the relative
fraction which I am complaining about.  I agree completely that
draconian rules on permissible discussion would kill this forum, and
that friendly remarks are the essential grease in any communication.
I'm not asking for topic fascism, and would object to it if proposed.
All I am asking for is self-discipline and common courtesy.  Hell,
having even *half* the traffic be on-topic would be a tremendous
improvement, given recent trends.

> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

  I keep seeing this, too.  Yah, thanks guys, I was using message
threading before Microsoft had a mail client at all.  That doesn't
mean I think having to delete 75% of the traffic is a good thing.
Especially when the noise is often in the same thread with the
technical discussions.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Michael . Leone]

Sean Martin  wrote on 08/28/2009 01:21:19 PM:

> DFS would probably work if you used it in conjunction with DFS-R. 
> The questions are this
>  
> 1) Do you want to host ALL of your user profiles on all servers? 

No. Because then I would need hundreds of gigabytes of storage at each 
site, so that each site has a copy of all user profiles.

I have about 1,000 users. Right now, my "main" fileserver has something on 
the order of 900G of user storage alone. If I add in the other 4 servers, 
I'm looking at a couple terrabytes of space, at each site, just for user 
folders ..

Yes, I know - in spite of policy against it, I know they've got many, many 
music files, etc, that they shouldn't have. I also need to clean that up. 
Even after I do, I'll still have multiple hundreds of gigs of valid files.

> 2) Is it possible to upgade to Windows 2003 R2, to take advantage of 
DFS-R?

That part I can do/mostly have done.

> In a typical roaming profile environment, DFS should be a fairly 
> decent solution. We found that in a terminal service/Citrix 
> environment, especially with multiple application silos, DFS and 
> DFS-R was a pain and ultimately unsupported.

We don't use roaming profiles, no. And we're not a terminal server/Citrix 
environment.

> If using DFS-R/FRS, you wouldn't have to worry about 
> backup/restores, as the data would be replicated for you. Again, 
> this would require hosting all user profiles on all of your servers 
> to maintain continuity. 

Yeah, and that's the part I don't see happening, due to the storage and 
the huge bandwidth issues (those huundreds of gigs have to fully 
replicate, at least at first. After that, I'm sure it's manageable use of 
bandwidth, to replicate changes).

> Clients will connect to the DFS server within their site. You could 
> implement some type of redundancy/load balancing as well by adding 
> multiple servers to your Folder Targets. You can control which 
> servers clients connect to using referral ordering.

Hmmm ...

> Again, I don't have much experiencing using FRS, but from my 
> experience with DFS-R and from what I've read about the 
> improvements, it would be worth researching whether upgrading to 
> Windows 2003 R2 would be feasible. 

Thanks!

>  
> - Sean
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:21 AM,  wrote:
> Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:01:52 PM:
> 
> > And you are not using DFS beecause? This would help you tremendously.

> Don't know enough about to implement. I know the general theory of it
> (it's pretty equivalent to a mount point in Unix/Linux, I believe). How
> would it help me, tho?
> 
> Would I specify the profile location as "\\DFS\Users\username1", and 
then
> - as long as something mounted into DFS has a path "\Users\username1",
> offline folders would be happy? And then I'd only have to worry about
> doing the backup/restore from one physical server to the other?
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM,  wrote:
> > I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home
> > profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for
> > performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as
> > offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose
> > connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, 
right?
> >
> > Here's my problem/aggravation:
> >
> > I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes
> > with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN 
link,
> > we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons.
> >
> > This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup 
their
> > files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete 
their
> > offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old
> > fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I
> > can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it
> after
> > they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their
> day
> > and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking
> place),
> > or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. 
This
> > is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to
> coordinate
> > with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.
> >
> > I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact
> > that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step
> > before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at 
their
> > new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline 
folders
> > cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new
> > server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm 
looking
> > for some advice on ways to make my life easier.
> >
> > Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do 
this?
> I
> > don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never use

RE: .Zip file password

[John Aldrich]

Whew. that's a tough one. There used to be utils for cracking them.. A quick
Google search turned up a number of them, including this one:
http://www.zip-password-cracker.com/

 

Searching download.com with the term "zip password recovery" also got a lot
of hits. Sorting by relevancy helps. The most relevant was NOT the most
popular/best rated. The best *editor* rating was for Advance Archive
Password Recovery 4. The best *user* rating was Ultimate ZIP Cracker 7.3.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: .Zip file password

 

Anyone know of a tool to recover a lost password for a PW protected WinZip
file? 

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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06:26:00


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Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles - DFS questions

[Sean Martin]

You can certainly implement DFS without replication. You would simply need
to follow your same procedures of backup/restore, copying, etc. when a user
moves from one site to another. It would just eliminate the need for
modifying the user's profile path. Keep in mind that you'll need to modify
your folder redirection GPO with the DFS path as well.

When a user accesses a DFS Namespace, DFS will determine which member of
that namespace to direct the connection to based on the site they're logging
in from.

If you decided to use replication, DFS-R in Windows 2003 has pretty good
compression capabilities, as well as the ability to only replicate changes
to files. I had 600GB of user profiles/home directories replicating between
4 servers and I routinely had a reduction rate of 97% or greater. Example:
If over a certain period of time, 1TB of data was modified and needed to
replicate, DFS-R's compression and replication would only transfer 31GB.

Sean

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:43 AM,  wrote:

>  Jon Harris  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:29:07 PM:
>
> > I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003
> > was better and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have
> > issues with DFS.  That is assuming he is still running all of his
> > file servers on 2000, he does not say.
>
> 4 file servers are Win2003; one is still Win2000. That one is scheduled to
> be upgraded to Win2003 in a couple months.
>
> We are also going to be going to 2003 AD later this year. (and 2008 AD
> next year)
>
> So at some soon-to-be furute point, I will have 5 file servers, all at
> 2003 AD, scattered about, all in a 2003 AD. If I do implement DFS, it
> would be after all that.
>
> I guess I'm still unclear about the replication aspects of DFS. I get the
> idea that I wouldn't need (num of servers x amount of each server storage)
> at each site, but I am struggling to understand then how I am cutting out
> bandwidth. I can see where I might be reducing it, but:
>
> If a person moves from Server #1 to Server #2, and I am using DFS, how
> (what method occurs) does that user not be accessing his/her files over
> the WAN link, if I am not replicating all their files to Server #2? I
> suppose that is my fundamental knowledge block, at the moment.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Glen Johnson]

Wouldn't happen to be a well know pharmacy per chance.

I attended a class a few years ago, learned a few things and on the way
home from the class, one of the people I traveled with had his laptop
scanning as we were driving back through town.

Saw this pharmacy ssid being broadcast, no encryption at all, not even
wep.

I happened to mention this to my boss, and he kinda got worried as he
trades at that pharmacy.

Next week, he's in the pharmacy and mentioned it to one of the clerks.

Next day, I got a call from one of their high up tech people wanting to
know what I was doing hacking their wireless.

When I explained that we weren't hacking, but that they might want to
check it out cause it was wide open and anyone could use it without any
hacking knowledge, they finally thanked me and said they would
investigate.

Never heard anything more and don't know to this day if they've fixed
it.

We didn't capture enough data to learn if the open network was data,
voice, video or what but I sure was glad I don't trade there, although
at the time, I'm sure others were just as lax with their security.

 

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

 

Hope they don't have important information at risk like TJ Max,
Marshalls, et. al.

I was involved in a project to replace all the wireless stuff for a
nationwide company.  Someone had sat out in the parking lot at one of
their stores and captured all the wireless traffic.  They reported that
to the HQ and sent them the captured info.  Needless to say, with a PCI
audit coming up, the company went into very high gear and had to replace
or upgrade every wireless device in every store in the country.  It
wasn't pretty but at least no info was "stolen" in the bad sense.

Webster

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jon Harris]

Of the three I have seen one only uses their systems to do homework and
check work schedules (I don't know anything about how they are doing that),
another does use it for online shopping and stockmarket stuff (FWIW they are
the ones i am most concerned about), and the last uses it mainly for doing
homework and watching foreign movies from their home country.  I have not
seen the last ones set up in about 4 months and talked to their college kids
and suggested that either they or I should make the changes to secure their
system.  When I see the middle one I suggest the change every time and they
all ways say the same thing.  I expect to see one of their son's soon and
since he can usually get them to do what he wants I will suggest he make the
changes, from what I gather he was the one that dealt with Verizon in the
first place.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Ok, so they don't have credit card information then.
> Besides. Their. Own.
> Or they never shop online?
>
> Verizon doesn't have their best interests at heart.  I would defintiely
> push these clients, for my "garage" clients, I lay it out straight, and not
> once has a customer refused.  Some did say it wasn't setup that way, but I
> asked them if whoever set it up for them would compensate them when their
> checking account is emptied...
>
>   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> These are home owners not stores.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Link > > wrote:
>>
>>>  Hope they don't have important information at risk like TJ Max,
>>> Marshalls, et. al.
>>>
>>>   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>
  I still have garage clients running WEP as setup by Verizon.  They
 don't see any need to change and don't want to change because "then the
 Verizon technician can't do his work".   Some is better than none they are
 told but it is up to the client to balance the need with the perceived
 payback.

 Jon

   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
> around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?  I've
> seen guys post the "my daughter could do it" response, but really, where 
> do
> you people live that you are that paranoid about your home network?  I am
> NOT suggesting that you leave it open, but I'll be shocked if someone
> doesn't suggest that you run out and buy a new router so you'll be "safe".
>  I'm just wondering, safe from whom?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Lee Douglas wrote:
>
>> My home network is on an old D-Link DIR-635 (latest firmware but it
>> hit end of life in 2007!) which only supports WPA personal and WPA
>> Enterprise - but it only supports WPA Enterprise via a Radius Server. 
>> It's
>> fast enough and works fine so i'm reluctant to trash it unless I have to.
>>
>> I have Windows Home Server, and several XP Pro computers.
>>
>> My question - should I set up a radius server - does a radius server
>> and WPA Enterprise offer enough additional protection to be worth the 
>> hassle
>> of setting up a Radius Server -  on my Windows Home Server box or go out 
>> an
>> buy a newer router?
>>
>> If a newer router, any recommendations?
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sam Cayze wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090827/tc_pcworld/newattackcrackscommonwifiencryptioninaminute
>>>
>>> Summary:  Use WPA2 and AES.  Get off WPA and TKIP if you are still
>>> using them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>
>
>
>





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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT: Word Definition & Origination - SOLVED!

[Roger Wright]

At the risk of creating even more noise I'll attempt to close this thread.
I sought the counsel of someone I know who speaks fluent French and received
this response:


Chiot (w/o extra t) basically means "puppy" or young dog.

Chiottes can mean "john" as in going to the "john" or even like a "slop
can"but can also mean a "jaloppy" or car.



Can also be a vulgar expression for the "rear".  Probably depends on the
context and region.


Roger Wright
___

"Its been a rough day. I got up this morning... put on a shirt and a button
fell off. I picked up my briefcase and the handle came off. I'm afraid to go
to the bathroom." - Rodney Dangerfield



On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> It's not in my 2nd Ed. OED, but a quick Google shows that one meaning
> goes back to at least 19th Century Turkey, where a family/tribe of
> Greeks named Chiote living in the region were merchants, and were
> displaced during political upheaval.
>
> I suspect that's not what your correspondent was after, though.
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:58, Roger Wright wrote:
> > I've been asked to find out what the word "chiotes" means and where it
> > originated.  The best I can find is that it may be French and is somehow
> > related to toilets.
> >
> > Anyone have more specific details for me?
> >
> >
> > Roger Wright
> > ___
> >
> > Polarvoid: The state of having no baby pictures, a condition that usually
> > befalls the second-born child.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Free, Bob]

+1 to the nth however much that is...

Of course there is much value in the community aspect of the list but
when the majority of traffic is noise, good people who make high quality
technical contributions go by the wayside. I said just that here 10
years ago and it is still my experience. Previous conversations such as
this spawned groups like Mad Techies, Admin-Misc, Late Afternoon where
OT banter was the charter. Certainly there's a place for it but it's not
this list's charter unless Stu has been misleading us all these years
:-)

IT is my profession first and foremost, that was why I joined this list
so many years ago and it has been an invaluable resource. With the
current state of economic affairs, more-with-less realities make time
increasingly more precious. I find the technical contributions to be of
the most value and I don't like seeing them diluted to the point where
it takes too much time to wade through the chaff to find the gems. I
just see history repeating itself when people like some of the MVPs who
have joined us talk about abandoning it. There is the inevitable ebb and
flow of the noise/sig ratio but I have always found it disturbing when
some of the very valuable contributors fade away because of it.

One thing I think we all agree on, thanks to everyone who takes time out
their busy day to help their fellows by sharing their knowledge and
experiences. It is as they say in the ads, priceless.

--bob

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting 75
of them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of
them isn't scalable. 

I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend a
better list?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] 
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

I'd be worried more if that 25% actually took up 25% of my time. But the
delete key's a beautiful thing.  

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Good NT sysadmin list?

  Anyone here know of a good email list to discuss NT sysadmin issues?

  Seriously, folks, the signal-to-noise ratio on this list is going to
hell.
Today we had 15 messages on the definition of a word (here's a
tip: www.google.com), 37 on a cartoon, 8 on banjos, 5 on the security of
Mac's, 7 that were basically bitching about lack of recognition in one's
job, 4 asking if the list was up (email asking if email was working?!?),
and
1 get-well wish in a 3-day-old banned thread.  That's 77.  Oh, and about
20 that were actually something like on-topic.
That's a ratio of about 4:1, or 25%.

  Twenty five percent.  Ponder that a bit.  Would you work for 25% of
your pay?  Would you pass a student with a 25% grade average?

  I  think it's one thing to have the occasional off-topic message or
thread, or occasional joke.  This is something else entirely.  This is
the occasional on-topic message in a sea of crap.  I've seen Stu kill
more threads in the past 7 days than I've seen him do in the previous
year.  Is it too much to ask that people act like adults and exercise a
little self-discipline?

  Whatever happened to "on-topic and low noise"?

  I realize I've been a sometime contributor to some of this myself, and
from this point forward I'm going to strive not to be.  I ask that you
please all join me in that.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: .Zip file password

[Richard Stovall]

http://www.elcomsoft.com/archpr.html

 

Is this a 'classic' zip file (no AES encryption)?  Do you have at least
one file from the zip?  If both of these are true it's relatively
trivial.  If not, brute force and dictionary approaches are pretty much
what you're stuck with and could take a lonnnggg time.  Good luck.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: .Zip file password

 

Anyone know of a tool to recover a lost password for a PW protected
WinZip file? 

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: .Zip file password

[Scott Kaufman]

Can't remember where I downloaded it from.  The program is called "password
Ultimate cracker (zip,word,excel).exe" and has worked fairly well on zip
files... unless the zip file is using newer encryption.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:16 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  Anyone know of a tool to recover a lost password for a PW protected
> WinZip file?
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Scott Kaufman, MCSE

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jonathan Link]

Ok, so they don't have credit card information then.
Besides. Their. Own.
Or they never shop online?

Verizon doesn't have their best interests at heart.  I would defintiely push
these clients, for my "garage" clients, I lay it out straight, and not once
has a customer refused.  Some did say it wasn't setup that way, but I asked
them if whoever set it up for them would compensate them when their checking
account is emptied...

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> These are home owners not stores.
>
> Jon
>
>  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hope they don't have important information at risk like TJ Max,
>> Marshalls, et. al.
>>
>>   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>
>>>  I still have garage clients running WEP as setup by Verizon.  They
>>> don't see any need to change and don't want to change because "then the
>>> Verizon technician can't do his work".   Some is better than none they are
>>> told but it is up to the client to balance the need with the perceived
>>> payback.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
 Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
 around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?  I've
 seen guys post the "my daughter could do it" response, but really, where do
 you people live that you are that paranoid about your home network?  I am
 NOT suggesting that you leave it open, but I'll be shocked if someone
 doesn't suggest that you run out and buy a new router so you'll be "safe".
  I'm just wondering, safe from whom?


 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Lee Douglas wrote:

> My home network is on an old D-Link DIR-635 (latest firmware but it hit
> end of life in 2007!) which only supports WPA personal and WPA Enterprise 
> -
> but it only supports WPA Enterprise via a Radius Server. It's fast enough
> and works fine so i'm reluctant to trash it unless I have to.
>
> I have Windows Home Server, and several XP Pro computers.
>
> My question - should I set up a radius server - does a radius server
> and WPA Enterprise offer enough additional protection to be worth the 
> hassle
> of setting up a Radius Server -  on my Windows Home Server box or go out 
> an
> buy a newer router?
>
> If a newer router, any recommendations?
>
> TIA!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sam Cayze wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090827/tc_pcworld/newattackcrackscommonwifiencryptioninaminute
>>
>> Summary:  Use WPA2 and AES.  Get off WPA and TKIP if you are still
>> using them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

.Zip file password

[David Lum]

Anyone know of a tool to recover a lost password for a PW protected WinZip file?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jon Harris]

These are home owners not stores.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Hope they don't have important information at risk like TJ Max, Marshalls,
> et. al.
>
>  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>>  I still have garage clients running WEP as setup by Verizon.  They don't
>> see any need to change and don't want to change because "then the Verizon
>> technician can't do his work".   Some is better than none they are told but
>> it is up to the client to balance the need with the perceived payback.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
>>> around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?  I've
>>> seen guys post the "my daughter could do it" response, but really, where do
>>> you people live that you are that paranoid about your home network?  I am
>>> NOT suggesting that you leave it open, but I'll be shocked if someone
>>> doesn't suggest that you run out and buy a new router so you'll be "safe".
>>>  I'm just wondering, safe from whom?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Lee Douglas wrote:
>>>
 My home network is on an old D-Link DIR-635 (latest firmware but it hit
 end of life in 2007!) which only supports WPA personal and WPA Enterprise -
 but it only supports WPA Enterprise via a Radius Server. It's fast enough
 and works fine so i'm reluctant to trash it unless I have to.

 I have Windows Home Server, and several XP Pro computers.

 My question - should I set up a radius server - does a radius server and
 WPA Enterprise offer enough additional protection to be worth the hassle of
 setting up a Radius Server -  on my Windows Home Server box or go out an 
 buy
 a newer router?

 If a newer router, any recommendations?

 TIA!




 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sam Cayze wrote:

>
> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090827/tc_pcworld/newattackcrackscommonwifiencryptioninaminute
>
> Summary:  Use WPA2 and AES.  Get off WPA and TKIP if you are still
> using them.
>
>
>
>
>
>





>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Webster]

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

 

Hope they don't have important information at risk like TJ Max, Marshalls,
et. al.

I was involved in a project to replace all the wireless stuff for a
nationwide company.  Someone had sat out in the parking lot at one of their
stores and captured all the wireless traffic.  They reported that to the HQ
and sent them the captured info.  Needless to say, with a PCI audit coming
up, the company went into very high gear and had to replace or upgrade every
wireless device in every store in the country.  It wasn't pretty but at
least no info was "stolen" in the bad sense.

Webster


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Sean Martin]

DFS would probably work if you used it in conjunction with DFS-R. The
questions are this

1) Do you want to host ALL of your user profiles on all servers?
2) Is it possible to upgade to Windows 2003 R2, to take advantage of DFS-R?

I don't have any experience with DFS using FRS

With DFS, you have your namespace and folder targets. In my environment, the
folder target is the share point. The profile path looks like this:

\\domain.com\namespace\foldertarget\remainingpath

In a typical roaming profile environment, DFS should be a fairly decent
solution. We found that in a terminal service/Citrix environment, especially
with multiple application silos, DFS and DFS-R was a pain and ultimately
unsupported.

If using DFS-R/FRS, you wouldn't have to worry about backup/restores, as the
data would be replicated for you. Again, this would require hosting all user
profiles on all of your servers to maintain continuity.

Clients will connect to the DFS server within their site. You could
implement some type of redundancy/load balancing as well by adding multiple
servers to your Folder Targets. You can control which servers clients
connect to using referral ordering.

Again, I don't have much experiencing using FRS, but from my experience with
DFS-R and from what I've read about the improvements, it would be worth
researching whether upgrading to Windows 2003 R2 would be feasible.

- Sean
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:21 AM,  wrote:

> Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:01:52 PM:
>
> > And you are not using DFS beecause? This would help you tremendously.
>
> Don't know enough about to implement. I know the general theory of it
> (it's pretty equivalent to a mount point in Unix/Linux, I believe). How
> would it help me, tho?
>
> Would I specify the profile location as "\\DFS\Users\username1", and then
> - as long as something mounted into DFS has a path "\Users\username1",
> offline folders would be happy? And then I'd only have to worry about
> doing the backup/restore from one physical server to the other?
>
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM,  wrote:
> > I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home
> > profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for
> > performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as
> > offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose
> > connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, right?
> >
> > Here's my problem/aggravation:
> >
> > I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes
> > with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN link,
> > we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons.
> >
> > This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup their
> > files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete their
> > offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old
> > fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I
> > can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it
> after
> > they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their
> day
> > and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking
> place),
> > or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. This
> > is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to
> coordinate
> > with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.
> >
> > I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact
> > that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step
> > before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at their
> > new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline folders
> > cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new
> > server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm looking
> > for some advice on ways to make my life easier.
> >
> > Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do this?
> I
> > don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never used it, so
> I'm
> > not sure. Something I am not yet aware of?
> >
> > Details:
> > Win2000 AD
> > Clients are either Win2000 or WinXP Pro
> > Backup software is EMC NetWorker
> > WAN links are Verizon TLS (Transparent LAN Service) - effectively
> > speaking, we use a VLAN on Verizons fiber LAN. It is pretty reliable.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Michael Leone
> > Network Administrator, ISM
> > Philadelphia Housing Authority
> > 2500 Jackson St
> > Philadelphia, PA 19145
> > Tel:  215-684-4180
> > Cell: 215-252-0143
> > 
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ F

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles - DFS questions

[Jon Harris]

I wish I could help you with that I do know DFS works but my group is too
small to make much use of it.  I used it in the past (2003 both sides) to
assist me in a file server migration but it did have issues, like failing
under heavy load.  Until I need it again I will not be using it we are now
on a single virtual file server (2008).  I hope at some point to use it to
duplicate our virtual machines to a backup server but at this point that is
months out and I have not yet started the research on that.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:43 PM,  wrote:

> Jon Harris  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:29:07 PM:
>
> > I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003
> > was better and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have
> > issues with DFS.  That is assuming he is still running all of his
> > file servers on 2000, he does not say.
>
> 4 file servers are Win2003; one is still Win2000. That one is scheduled to
> be upgraded to Win2003 in a couple months.
>
> We are also going to be going to 2003 AD later this year. (and 2008 AD
> next year)
>
> So at some soon-to-be furute point, I will have 5 file servers, all at
> 2003 AD, scattered about, all in a 2003 AD. If I do implement DFS, it
> would be after all that.
>
> I guess I'm still unclear about the replication aspects of DFS. I get the
> idea that I wouldn't need (num of servers x amount of each server storage)
> at each site, but I am struggling to understand then how I am cutting out
> bandwidth. I can see where I might be reducing it, but:
>
> If a person moves from Server #1 to Server #2, and I am using DFS, how
> (what method occurs) does that user not be accessing his/her files over
> the WAN link, if I am not replicating all their files to Server #2? I
> suppose that is my fundamental knowledge block, at the moment.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jonathan Link]

Hope they don't have important information at risk like TJ Max, Marshalls,
et. al.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> I still have garage clients running WEP as setup by Verizon.  They don't
> see any need to change and don't want to change because "then the Verizon
> technician can't do his work".   Some is better than none they are told but
> it is up to the client to balance the need with the perceived payback.
>
> Jon
>
>   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
>> around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?  I've
>> seen guys post the "my daughter could do it" response, but really, where do
>> you people live that you are that paranoid about your home network?  I am
>> NOT suggesting that you leave it open, but I'll be shocked if someone
>> doesn't suggest that you run out and buy a new router so you'll be "safe".
>>  I'm just wondering, safe from whom?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Lee Douglas wrote:
>>
>>> My home network is on an old D-Link DIR-635 (latest firmware but it hit
>>> end of life in 2007!) which only supports WPA personal and WPA Enterprise -
>>> but it only supports WPA Enterprise via a Radius Server. It's fast enough
>>> and works fine so i'm reluctant to trash it unless I have to.
>>>
>>> I have Windows Home Server, and several XP Pro computers.
>>>
>>> My question - should I set up a radius server - does a radius server and
>>> WPA Enterprise offer enough additional protection to be worth the hassle of
>>> setting up a Radius Server -  on my Windows Home Server box or go out an buy
>>> a newer router?
>>>
>>> If a newer router, any recommendations?
>>>
>>> TIA!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sam Cayze wrote:
>>>

 http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090827/tc_pcworld/newattackcrackscommonwifiencryptioninaminute

 Summary:  Use WPA2 and AES.  Get off WPA and TKIP if you are still using
 them.






>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles - DFS questions

[Michael . Leone]

Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:36:27 PM:

> FRS and DFS will allow for the replication of the users directories 
> without you having to do all the work that you are currently doing.

That would a Good Thing ...

> In your case, you have servers at each of the three sites. What you 
> would do is create folders on each server like you norally would, 
> use DFS to create an AD shared name and link each folder from each 
> server.  Then you would use FRS to specify which folder is the 
> primary and have it replicate to the other shares.
> 
> Next, you would open AD and create a share. Once you do that, 
> instead of pointing the users home directory to \\Server_a\users you
> would point to the AD Share, \\AD_Sharename\Users. You do this for all 
users. 

I am following so far ...

> Now, when a user at Site A logs in and is authenticated, AD and DFS 
> will determine which is the closest server, in this case Server_A, 
> and use the files in that located on Server-A. That user only knows 
> that they are accessing \\AD_Sharename\User which can be mapped to a
> drive lietter, such as Drive F, or whatever you chose.

Right; got all that ...

> When that user moves to Site C, and they login, they will be then 
> pointed to the share on Server-C, because AD and DFS will determine 
> that this is the closest server to them.  FRS would have already 
> replicated all their files from Server_A, and Server_B, already. 

And here we come to a stumbling point ... doesn't this pre-suppose that I 
have enough storage at Site A to hold all the user files from all of the 
other servers? You say FRS would already have replicated all their files 
from Server_A to Server_B. So doesn't Server_B need enough storage space 
for all the users at Server_A, as well as all the users at Server_B?

Related question - can the replication be configured to *not* be 
automatic? For example, can I replicate that one particular user's files 
from Server_A to Server_B only when they move? (and if so, how do I clean 
up the space on Server_A?)

Sorry if these are dense or newbie (to DFS) questions.

And thanks for the very clear explanation!



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles - DFS questions

[Michael . Leone]

Jon Harris  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:29:07 PM:

> I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003 
> was better and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have 
> issues with DFS.  That is assuming he is still running all of his 
> file servers on 2000, he does not say.

4 file servers are Win2003; one is still Win2000. That one is scheduled to 
be upgraded to Win2003 in a couple months.

We are also going to be going to 2003 AD later this year. (and 2008 AD 
next year)

So at some soon-to-be furute point, I will have 5 file servers, all at 
2003 AD, scattered about, all in a 2003 AD. If I do implement DFS, it 
would be after all that.

I guess I'm still unclear about the replication aspects of DFS. I get the 
idea that I wouldn't need (num of servers x amount of each server storage) 
at each site, but I am struggling to understand then how I am cutting out 
bandwidth. I can see where I might be reducing it, but:

If a person moves from Server #1 to Server #2, and I am using DFS, how 
(what method occurs) does that user not be accessing his/her files over 
the WAN link, if I am not replicating all their files to Server #2? I 
suppose that is my fundamental knowledge block, at the moment.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Daniel Rodriguez]

FRS and DFS will allow for the replication of the users directories without
you having to do all the work that you are currently doing.

In your case, you have servers at each of the three sites. What you would do
is create folders on each server like you norally would, use DFS to create
an AD shared name and link each folder from each server.  Then you would use
FRS to specify which folder is the primary and have it replicate to the
other shares.

Next, you would open AD and create a share. Once you do that, instead of
pointing the users home directory to \\Server_a\users you would point to the
AD Share, \\AD_Sharename\Users. You do this for all users.

Now, when a user at Site A logs in and is authenticated, AD and DFS will
determine which is the closest server, in this case Server_A, and use the
files in that located on Server-A. That user only knows that they are
accessing \\AD_Sharename\User which can be mapped to a drive lietter, such
as Drive F, or whatever you chose.

When that user moves to Site C, and they login, they will be then pointed to
the share on Server-C, because AD and DFS will determine that this is the
closest server to them.  FRS would have already replicated all their files
from Server_A, and Server_B, already.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM,  wrote:

> Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:01:52 PM:
>
> > And you are not using DFS beecause? This would help you tremendously.
>
> Don't know enough about to implement. I know the general theory of it
> (it's pretty equivalent to a mount point in Unix/Linux, I believe). How
> would it help me, tho?
>
> Would I specify the profile location as "\\DFS\Users\username1", and then
> - as long as something mounted into DFS has a path "\Users\username1",
> offline folders would be happy? And then I'd only have to worry about
> doing the backup/restore from one physical server to the other?
>
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM,  wrote:
> > I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home
> > profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for
> > performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as
> > offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose
> > connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, right?
> >
> > Here's my problem/aggravation:
> >
> > I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes
> > with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN link,
> > we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons.
> >
> > This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup their
> > files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete their
> > offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old
> > fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I
> > can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it
> after
> > they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their
> day
> > and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking
> place),
> > or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. This
> > is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to
> coordinate
> > with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.
> >
> > I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact
> > that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step
> > before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at their
> > new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline folders
> > cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new
> > server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm looking
> > for some advice on ways to make my life easier.
> >
> > Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do this?
> I
> > don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never used it, so
> I'm
> > not sure. Something I am not yet aware of?
> >
> > Details:
> > Win2000 AD
> > Clients are either Win2000 or WinXP Pro
> > Backup software is EMC NetWorker
> > WAN links are Verizon TLS (Transparent LAN Service) - effectively
> > speaking, we use a VLAN on Verizons fiber LAN. It is pretty reliable.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Michael Leone
> > Network Administrator, ISM
> > Philadelphia Housing Authority
> > 2500 Jackson St
> > Philadelphia, PA 19145
> > Tel:  215-684-4180
> > Cell: 215-252-0143
> > 
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Ft. Lauderdale, FL

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

alone time=mikey time

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Shook wrote:
> Dinner/drinks = alone time
>
> Shook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
>
> Thats where I'm living these days. I work downtown and live in the
> immediate area.  Dinner/drinks are a must!
>
>
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Webster wrote:
>> Anyone here from the Ft. Lauderdale, FL area?  I've been invited to spend
>> the week of September 27th there helping a vendor develop a training course
>> for an upper level cert exam.  Should be free every night if you want to
>> meet and eat/drink somewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Michael . Leone]

"John C. Anson"  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:07:24 PM:

> I would use FRS and DFS to replicate the user shares then change their
> home folder to the name space share (DFS)

OK. But we don't want to use replication (in our case), because we don't 
want to replicate that much data. Perhaps I am mis-understanding the 
impact of the replication, or the specifics. Do you mean that the home 
folder would replicate from Server #1 to Server#2, and then .. what? Be 
deleted off Server #1? 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Maglinger, Paul]

+100



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?



I honestly think I've learned more from the lists (Exchange as well)
than all the books I've been through. I read every KB posted just in
case. Thanks everyone! 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership For Strong Families 
Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud



From: Bill Lambert 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Aug 28 12:12:17 2009
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? 


I think I may be speaking for many mostly silent admins here, but I love
this list.  I run a small but growing shop and s just me on the Windows
side of things.   I dt contribute much to the list so I try to keep my
questions for when Im really stuck on something.  And I have to tell
you, this list has saved my ass on more than a few occasions and I have
learned much from watching the threads on many,  many topics.

 

The people here have always been kind and generous with their answers.
The banter is just fine with me because of the reasons others have
spoken to, and, I have no problem managing my inbox.

 

My $.02

 

Bill Lambert

 

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

 

+1

 

I moved this list to gmail a few years ago, and it's been great.  I can
read the threads I want to read, and just archive the rest.  Every once
in a while I'll just go through and archive everything so I don't have
3500 unread messages in my inbox.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bob Fronk  wrote:

Due to the start of archiving a couple years ago, I moved to a personal
account.  Many use Gmail.  Maybe that would be a better solution for
you.


-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

Micheal Espinola Jr  wrote on 08/28/2009
11:15:52 AM:

> +1
>
> The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
> good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
> sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
> of an otherwise dismal day!
>
> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

I have to use Loathsome Notes 7 to read this list; there is no thread
view. Nor sorting on subject. To me, it all comes in a long, flat,
received-order core-dump. :-)

While I wouldn't mind more signal, I've been on this list for like 8
years, and 2 jobs. It can be aggravating, but (eventually) I always come
back.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 




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Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Jon Harris]

I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003 was better
and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have issues with DFS.
That is assuming he is still running all of his file servers on 2000, he
does not say.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM,  wrote:

> Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:01:52 PM:
>
> > And you are not using DFS beecause? This would help you tremendously.
>
> Don't know enough about to implement. I know the general theory of it
> (it's pretty equivalent to a mount point in Unix/Linux, I believe). How
> would it help me, tho?
>
> Would I specify the profile location as "\\DFS\Users\username1", and then
> - as long as something mounted into DFS has a path "\Users\username1",
> offline folders would be happy? And then I'd only have to worry about
> doing the backup/restore from one physical server to the other?
>
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM,  wrote:
> > I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home
> > profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for
> > performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as
> > offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose
> > connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, right?
> >
> > Here's my problem/aggravation:
> >
> > I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes
> > with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN link,
> > we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons.
> >
> > This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup their
> > files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete their
> > offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old
> > fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I
> > can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it
> after
> > they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their
> day
> > and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking
> place),
> > or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. This
> > is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to
> coordinate
> > with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.
> >
> > I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact
> > that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step
> > before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at their
> > new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline folders
> > cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new
> > server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm looking
> > for some advice on ways to make my life easier.
> >
> > Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do this?
> I
> > don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never used it, so
> I'm
> > not sure. Something I am not yet aware of?
> >
> > Details:
> > Win2000 AD
> > Clients are either Win2000 or WinXP Pro
> > Backup software is EMC NetWorker
> > WAN links are Verizon TLS (Transparent LAN Service) - effectively
> > speaking, we use a VLAN on Verizons fiber LAN. It is pretty reliable.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Michael Leone
> > Network Administrator, ISM
> > Philadelphia Housing Authority
> > 2500 Jackson St
> > Philadelphia, PA 19145
> > Tel:  215-684-4180
> > Cell: 215-252-0143
> > 
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

+1

I find Gmail's conversational view one of the easiest to use.

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bob Fronk wrote:
> Due to the start of archiving a couple years ago, I moved to a personal 
> account.  Many use Gmail.  Maybe that would be a better solution for you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Micheal Espinola Jr  wrote on 08/28/2009
> 11:15:52 AM:
>
>> +1
>>
>> The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
>> good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
>> sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
>> of an otherwise dismal day!
>>
>> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
>
> I have to use Loathsome Notes 7 to read this list; there is no thread
> view. Nor sorting on subject. To me, it all comes in a long, flat,
> received-order core-dump. :-)
>
> While I wouldn't mind more signal, I've been on this list for like 8
> years, and 2 jobs. It can be aggravating, but (eventually) I always come
> back.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[John Cook]

I honestly think I've learned more from the lists (Exchange as well) than all 
the books I've been through. I read every KB posted just in case. Thanks 
everyone!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud


From: Bill Lambert
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Fri Aug 28 12:12:17 2009
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
I think I may be speaking for many mostly silent admins here, but I love this 
list.  I run a small but growing shop and it���s just me on the Windows side of 
things.   I don���t contribute much to the list so I try to keep my questions 
for when m really stuck on something.  And I have to tell you, this list 
has saved my ass on more than a few occasions and I have learned much from 
watching the threads on many,  many topics.

The people here have always been kind and generous with their answers.  The 
banter is just fine with me because of the reasons others have spoken to, and, 
I have no problem managing my inbox.

My $.02

Bill Lambert

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

+1

I moved this list to gmail a few years ago, and it's been great.  I can read 
the threads I want to read, and just archive the rest.  Every once in a while 
I'll just go through and archive everything so I don't have 3500 unread 
messages in my inbox.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bob Fronk 
mailto:b...@btrfronk.com>> wrote:
Due to the start of archiving a couple years ago, I moved to a personal 
account.  Many use Gmail.  Maybe that would be a better solution for you.

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov 
[mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
Micheal Espinola Jr 
mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>> wrote on 
08/28/2009
11:15:52 AM:

> +1
>
> The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
> good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
> sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
> of an otherwise dismal day!
>
> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

I have to use Loathsome Notes 7 to read this list; there is no thread
view. Nor sorting on subject. To me, it all comes in a long, flat,
received-order core-dump. :-)

While I wouldn't mind more signal, I've been on this list for like 8
years, and 2 jobs. It can be aggravating, but (eventually) I always come
back.


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Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Michael . Leone]

Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 08/28/2009 12:01:52 PM:

> And you are not using DFS beecause? This would help you tremendously.

Don't know enough about to implement. I know the general theory of it 
(it's pretty equivalent to a mount point in Unix/Linux, I believe). How 
would it help me, tho?

Would I specify the profile location as "\\DFS\Users\username1", and then 
- as long as something mounted into DFS has a path "\Users\username1", 
offline folders would be happy? And then I'd only have to worry about 
doing the backup/restore from one physical server to the other?

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM,  wrote:
> I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home
> profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for
> performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as
> offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose
> connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, right?
> 
> Here's my problem/aggravation:
> 
> I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes
> with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN link,
> we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons.
> 
> This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup their
> files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete their
> offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old
> fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I
> can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it 
after
> they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their 
day
> and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking 
place),
> or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. This
> is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to 
coordinate
> with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.
> 
> I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact
> that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step
> before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at their
> new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline folders
> cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new
> server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm looking
> for some advice on ways to make my life easier.
> 
> Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do this? 
I
> don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never used it, so 
I'm
> not sure. Something I am not yet aware of?
> 
> Details:
> Win2000 AD
> Clients are either Win2000 or WinXP Pro
> Backup software is EMC NetWorker
> WAN links are Verizon TLS (Transparent LAN Service) - effectively
> speaking, we use a VLAN on Verizons fiber LAN. It is pretty reliable.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --
> Michael Leone
> Network Administrator, ISM
> Philadelphia Housing Authority
> 2500 Jackson St
> Philadelphia, PA 19145
> Tel:  215-684-4180
> Cell: 215-252-0143
> 
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Good NT sysadmin list? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO

 "Hair" by the Cowsills  (probably from the 70')

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

Isn't there a 80's hair metal song called Tease Me, Please Me or
something like that?  

 



 

Shook

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

 

Shook stop reading this message right now!!!

Love Shookie baby, and I really LOVE to tease him.  At the risk of
shocking this list, Shook is actually a very nice guy, southern
gentleman and all that.  He's one of the few people from this list that
I've actually had the chance to meet in person.  

Ok, I'll resume normal Shookie bashing now ;)

Sometimes the banter and rabbit trails of threads going w OT is
what keeps me sane on some days.  I wouldn't want that to change at all.


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been lurking here for a while and for the life of me I can't figure
out if SHOOK is LOVED or HATED!!!  But I think you are 100% correct.

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:

+1

The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
of an otherwise dismal day!

Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

--
ME2




On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Bob Fronk wrote:
> I wouldn't want this list to change one bit.  Sometimes I read the
very OT
> stuff, sometimes not.  We get to know each other on this list and most
of us
> have never seen or spoken to one another.
>
>
>
> Truly, this thread is just more "noise" and the op is just adding to
it by
> starting the subject in the first place.
>
>
>
> Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is needed.
>
>
>
> I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to
prosper.
>
>
>
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> This list has always had its noise, it's unavoidable. It definitely
seems to
> be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low.
>
>
>
> That being said, it's an invaluable resource.
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete
the
> messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just
to
> ignore a thread, not read it, and move on?  Read what's important.
Most on
> topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo.
>
>
>
> I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within
the
> contributors.  It gives my a good laugh too from time to time.  Stu
always
> seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt.
>
>
>
> -Sam
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its
> moments..).
>
> Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal
itself
> has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse..
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith
>  wrote:
>
> If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop
out
> awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy.
>
> The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise.
>
> 
> From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting
75 of
> them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of
them
> isn't scalable.
>
> I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend
a
> better list?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net]
> Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> I'd be worried more if that 25% actually took up 25% of my time. But
the
> delete key's a beautiful thing.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Sean Martin]

I wouldn't worry too much, it's just the NSA keeping tabs on you. And with
that, it doesn't matter what encryption you're using ;-)

- Sean

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Murray Freeman  wrote:

>  Well, there are at least 8 or 9 other wifi nets in my neighborhood, but I
> have my radio broadcast turned off. I know that won't stop an "expert" but
> it will stop some idiot trying to "just have some fun". But, I am somewhat
> paranoid as many times, and I do mean MANY, cars stop after dark, right in
> front of my house, and with the motor running, they just sit in the car. I
> don't go out to look up close, but they do not have a cell phone glued to
> their ears and they are looking down as though typing on a keyboard. They
> don't just sit for a few moments, but rather 15 or 20 minutes at a time. So,
> am I being t anul, or are those people trying to hack into a wifi. All
> but one or two of the local wifi nets are protected, most are WEP or WAP
> except my backyard neighbor and I who are WPA2.
>
>
> *Murray*
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2009 9:47 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute
>
> Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking around
> with the technology/desire to break into your home network?  I've seen guys
> post the "my daughter could do it" response, but really, where do you people
> live that you are that paranoid about your home network?  I am NOT
> suggesting that you leave it open, but I'll be shocked if someone doesn't
> suggest that you run out and buy a new router so you'll be "safe".  I'm just
> wondering, safe from whom?
>
>  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Lee Douglas wrote:
>
>> My home network is on an old D-Link DIR-635 (latest firmware but it hit
>> end of life in 2007!) which only supports WPA personal and WPA Enterprise -
>> but it only supports WPA Enterprise via a Radius Server. It's fast enough
>> and works fine so i'm reluctant to trash it unless I have to.
>>
>> I have Windows Home Server, and several XP Pro computers.
>>
>> My question - should I set up a radius server - does a radius server and
>> WPA Enterprise offer enough additional protection to be worth the hassle of
>> setting up a Radius Server -  on my Windows Home Server box or go out an buy
>> a newer router?
>>
>> If a newer router, any recommendations?
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sam Cayze wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090827/tc_pcworld/newattackcrackscommonwifiencryptioninaminute
>>>
>>> Summary:  Use WPA2 and AES.  Get off WPA and TKIP if you are still using
>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Michael . Leone]

"Joe Tinney"  wrote on 08/28/2009 11:59:15 AM:

> I?d turn broadcasting on (with WPA2) and change my SSID to creepy 
> messages like: ?I?m watching you? and ?This backseat is so comfy?.

Creepy would be "Here with yo mama" ...

I'd say - use WPA2 Personal; decently strong password; turn off Remote 
Management; turn off UPnP; use AES encryption, if possible.

I would think that should stop (or significantly slow down) any casual 
intruders, or freeloaders who want to tailgate on your bandwidth. 

Now, if you are specifically targeted by someone who know what they are 
doing, might be a different story. But the odds on that are probably 
small.
 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Bill Lambert]

I think I may be speaking for many mostly silent admins here, but I love
this list.  I run a small but growing shop and it's just me on the
Windows side of things.   I don't contribute much to the list so I try
to keep my questions for when I'm really stuck on something.  And I have
to tell you, this list has saved my ass on more than a few occasions and
I have learned much from watching the threads on many,  many topics.

 

The people here have always been kind and generous with their answers.
The banter is just fine with me because of the reasons others have
spoken to, and, I have no problem managing my inbox.

 

My $.02

 

Bill Lambert

 

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

 

+1

 

I moved this list to gmail a few years ago, and it's been great.  I can
read the threads I want to read, and just archive the rest.  Every once
in a while I'll just go through and archive everything so I don't have
3500 unread messages in my inbox.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bob Fronk  wrote:

Due to the start of archiving a couple years ago, I moved to a personal
account.  Many use Gmail.  Maybe that would be a better solution for
you.


-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

Micheal Espinola Jr  wrote on 08/28/2009
11:15:52 AM:

> +1
>
> The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
> good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
> sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
> of an otherwise dismal day!
>
> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

I have to use Loathsome Notes 7 to read this list; there is no thread
view. Nor sorting on subject. To me, it all comes in a long, flat,
received-order core-dump. :-)

While I wouldn't mind more signal, I've been on this list for like 8
years, and 2 jobs. It can be aggravating, but (eventually) I always come
back.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

[Webster]

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Subject: RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

Ah.  Gotcha.  I've been interested in a DIY Storage Server box for a while
and was hoping there was a way to do it now.

 

What got me interested in this was meeting a guy who works for MS.  He does
most of the blogging and webcasts on Hyper-V for MS.  He said he built a
WSS08 box for his home lab now that WSS08 is on MSDN.  That is what he uses
for the iSCSI shared storage to test Hyper-V HA.  Figured if he can do it,
so can I.  But mine will be use for XenServer and Essentials.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Subject: RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Subject: RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

I thought Storage Server was an OEM-only product.  Where did you get the
license?  I see that it's on MSDN, but I can't use that in production.

 

Mine is for my lab.  http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=11464

 

 

Webster

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Subject: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

Anyone here build your own Windows Storage Server 2008?  The parts to build
mine should show up today.  Looking for any advice or feedback.

 

Thanks

 

Webster

 

Proudly affecting the noise to signal ratio since August 2001. 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[John C. Anson]

I would use FRS and DFS to replicate the user shares then change their
home folder to the name space share (DFS)

John Anson jan...@johnanson.com
CNA, MCSA, MCSE
John Anson Co. LLC
http://johnanson.com
734.260.0283

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home 
profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for 
performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as 
offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose 
connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, right? 

Here's my problem/aggravation:

I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes 
with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN link,

we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons. 

This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup their

files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete their

offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old 
fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I 
can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it
after 
they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their
day 
and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking
place), 
or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. This

is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to
coordinate 
with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.

I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact 
that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step 
before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at their 
new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline folders

cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new 
server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm looking

for some advice on ways to make my life easier.

Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do this?
I 
don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never used it, so
I'm 
not sure. Something I am not yet aware of?

Details:
Win2000 AD
Clients are either Win2000 or WinXP Pro
Backup software is EMC NetWorker
WAN links are Verizon TLS (Transparent LAN Service) - effectively 
speaking, we use a VLAN on Verizons fiber LAN. It is pretty reliable.

Thanks

-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Daniel Rodriguez]

And you are not using DFS beecause? This would help you tremendously.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM,  wrote:

> I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home
> profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for
> performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as
> offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose
> connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, right?
>
> Here's my problem/aggravation:
>
> I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes
> with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN link,
> we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons.
>
> This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup their
> files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete their
> offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old
> fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I
> can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it after
> they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their day
> and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking place),
> or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. This
> is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to coordinate
> with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.
>
> I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact
> that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step
> before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at their
> new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline folders
> cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new
> server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm looking
> for some advice on ways to make my life easier.
>
> Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do this? I
> don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never used it, so I'm
> not sure. Something I am not yet aware of?
>
> Details:
> Win2000 AD
> Clients are either Win2000 or WinXP Pro
> Backup software is EMC NetWorker
> WAN links are Verizon TLS (Transparent LAN Service) - effectively
> speaking, we use a VLAN on Verizons fiber LAN. It is pretty reliable.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Michael Leone
> Network Administrator, ISM
> Philadelphia Housing Authority
> 2500 Jackson St
> Philadelphia, PA 19145
> Tel:  215-684-4180
> Cell: 215-252-0143
> 
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

[Richard Stovall]

Ah.  Gotcha.  I've been interested in a DIY Storage Server box for a
while and was hoping there was a way to do it now.

 

Thanks,
RS

 

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Subject: RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

I thought Storage Server was an OEM-only product.  Where did you get the
license?  I see that it's on MSDN, but I can't use that in production.

 

Mine is for my lab.  http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=11464

 

 

Webster

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Subject: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

Anyone here build your own Windows Storage Server 2008?  The parts to
build mine should show up today.  Looking for any advice or feedback.

 

Thanks

 

Webster

 

Proudly affecting the noise to signal ratio since August 2001.

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Joe Tinney]

I'd turn broadcasting on (with WPA2) and change my SSID to creepy
messages like: "I'm watching you" and "This backseat is so comfy".

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

 

Well, there are at least 8 or 9 other wifi nets in my neighborhood, but
I have my radio broadcast turned off. I know that won't stop an "expert"
but it will stop some idiot trying to "just have some fun". But, I am
somewhat paranoid as many times, and I do mean MANY, cars stop after
dark, right in front of my house, and with the motor running, they just
sit in the car. I don't go out to look up close, but they do not have a
cell phone glued to their ears and they are looking down as though
typing on a keyboard. They don't just sit for a few moments, but rather
15 or 20 minutes at a time. So, am I being t anul, or are those
people trying to hack into a wifi. All but one or two of the local wifi
nets are protected, most are WEP or WAP except my backyard neighbor and
I who are WPA2.

 

Murray

 

 



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

Seriously, what are the odds someone in your neighborhood is lurking
around with the technology/desire to break into your home network?  I've
seen guys post the "my daughter could do it" response, but really, where
do you people live that you are that paranoid about your home network?
I am NOT suggesting that you leave it open, but I'll be shocked if
someone doesn't suggest that you run out and buy a new router so you'll
be "safe".  I'm just wondering, safe from whom?

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Lee Douglas 
wrote:

My home network is on an old D-Link DIR-635 (latest firmware but it hit
end of life in 2007!) which only supports WPA personal and WPA
Enterprise - but it only supports WPA Enterprise via a Radius Server.
It's fast enough and works fine so i'm reluctant to trash it unless I
have to.

I have Windows Home Server, and several XP Pro computers.

My question - should I set up a radius server - does a radius server and
WPA Enterprise offer enough additional protection to be worth the hassle
of setting up a Radius Server -  on my Windows Home Server box or go out
an buy a newer router? 

If a newer router, any recommendations?

TIA! 






On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090827/tc_pcworld/newattackcracksco
mmonwifiencryptioninaminute 

Summary:  Use WPA2 and AES.  Get off WPA and TKIP if you are still using
them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Christopher Bodnar]

Michael,

I'm in the same boat, we are a Lotus notes shop and 6.5 is the standard. I
hobbled the old Lotus Notes connector to work with Outlook 2003. I can
send you the steps offline if you are interested. 



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003


-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

Micheal Espinola Jr  wrote on 08/28/2009 
11:15:52 AM:

> +1
> 
> The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
> good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
> sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
> of an otherwise dismal day!
> 
> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

I have to use Loathsome Notes 7 to read this list; there is no thread 
view. Nor sorting on subject. To me, it all comes in a long, flat, 
received-order core-dump. :-)

While I wouldn't mind more signal, I've been on this list for like 8 
years, and 2 jobs. It can be aggravating, but (eventually) I always come 
back.


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~   ~


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Advice on re-locating user home profiles

[Michael . Leone]

I have 5 sites that have file servers in them. We assign a user's home 
profile in AD (home folder) to be the server closest to them, for 
performance sake. We also use folder re-direction via GPO, as well as 
offline files (sometimes, the WAN connections can hiccup, and we lose 
connectivity). A mostly standard (or not unknown) configuration, right? 

Here's my problem/aggravation:

I have people move from site to site all the time. Their computer goes 
with them. Rather than have them access all their files over a WAN link, 
we want them to access them locally, for performance reasons. 

This means I have to synchronize their re-directed folders; backup their 
files at the old fileserver; restore to the new fileserver; delete their 
offline files cache (else it will continue to synchronize to their old 
fileserver); and change their profile setting in AD. Unfortunately, I 
can't schedule the time of their move, so I end up hearing about it after 
they've moved into their new site. So I either have to interrupt their day 
and stop their computer usage (while the backup/restore is taking place), 
or try and doing it in the evening, remotely, on my time from home. This 
is - of course - further complicated by the fact that I have to coordinate 
with the user's schedule for daytime work, etc.

I know that a good chunk of my problem is not technical, it's the fact 
that I can't do the backup and delete offline cache as the last step 
before the user moves, so that by the time they are all set up at their 
new site, everything is ready to go (in terms of cleared offline folders 
cache, and new entry in profile setting in AD, and restore done to new 
server). But since I (apparently) can't change this process, I'm looking 
for some advice on ways to make my life easier.

Any advice? (from a technical standpoint, I mean) Better way to do this? I 
don't think something like DFS would help, but I've never used it, so I'm 
not sure. Something I am not yet aware of?

Details:
Win2000 AD
Clients are either Win2000 or WinXP Pro
Backup software is EMC NetWorker
WAN links are Verizon TLS (Transparent LAN Service) - effectively 
speaking, we use a VLAN on Verizons fiber LAN. It is pretty reliable.

Thanks

-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Attack Cracks WPA in a Minute

[Jeff Brown]

That WOULD make me paranoid.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Murray Freeman wrote:

>  Well, there are at least 8 or 9 other wifi nets in my neighborhood, but I
> have my radio broadcast turned off. I know that won't stop an "expert" but
> it will stop some idiot trying to "just have some fun". But, I am somewhat
> paranoid as many times, and I do mean MANY, cars stop after dark, right in
> front of my house, and with the motor running, they just sit in the car. I
> don't go out to look up close, but they do not have a cell phone glued to
> their ears and they are looking down as though typing on a keyboard. They
> don't just sit for a few moments, but rather 15 or 20 minutes at a time. So,
> am I being t anul, or are those people trying to hack into a wifi. All
> but one or two of the local wifi nets are protected, most are WEP or WAP
> except my backyard neighbor and I who are WPA2.
>
>
> *Murray*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Rob Bonfiglio]

+1

I moved this list to gmail a few years ago, and it's been great.  I can read
the threads I want to read, and just archive the rest.  Every once in a
while I'll just go through and archive everything so I don't have 3500
unread messages in my inbox.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bob Fronk  wrote:

> Due to the start of archiving a couple years ago, I moved to a personal
> account.  Many use Gmail.  Maybe that would be a better solution for you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>  Micheal Espinola Jr  wrote on 08/28/2009
> 11:15:52 AM:
>
> > +1
> >
> > The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
> > good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
> > sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
> > of an otherwise dismal day!
> >
> > Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
>
> I have to use Loathsome Notes 7 to read this list; there is no thread
> view. Nor sorting on subject. To me, it all comes in a long, flat,
> received-order core-dump. :-)
>
> While I wouldn't mind more signal, I've been on this list for like 8
> years, and 2 jobs. It can be aggravating, but (eventually) I always come
> back.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

[Webster]

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Subject: RE: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

I thought Storage Server was an OEM-only product.  Where did you get the
license?  I see that it's on MSDN, but I can't use that in production.

 

Mine is for my lab.  http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=11464

 

 

Webster

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Subject: Windows Storage Server 2008

 

Anyone here build your own Windows Storage Server 2008?  The parts to build
mine should show up today.  Looking for any advice or feedback.

 

Thanks

 

Webster

 

Proudly affecting the noise to signal ratio since August 2001.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Murray Freeman]

I've been on this list a long time, and I've always had an answer for
people who complain about "noise". If your keyboard doesn't have a
DELETE key, get a new keyboard. I lurk most of the time, and
infrequently contribute, but this is a good source of info. Usually,
good use of the SUBJECT line is all that is needed to keep me from
"turning the volume down". When I've requested help here, it always
comes quickly. I'm on the Exchange list as well, and while a little less
"noisey" it's a good one as well. Long live both lists!
 

Murray 

 



From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?



Isn't there a 80's hair metal song called Tease Me, Please Me or
something like that?  

 



 

Shook

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

 

Shook stop reading this message right now!!!

Love Shookie baby, and I really LOVE to tease him.  At the risk of
shocking this list, Shook is actually a very nice guy, southern
gentleman and all that.  He's one of the few people from this list that
I've actually had the chance to meet in person.  

Ok, I'll resume normal Shookie bashing now ;)

Sometimes the banter and rabbit trails of threads going w OT is
what keeps me sane on some days.  I wouldn't want that to change at all.


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been lurking here for a while and for the life of me I can't figure
out if SHOOK is LOVED or HATED!!!  But I think you are 100% correct.

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:

+1

The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
of an otherwise dismal day!

Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

--
ME2




On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Bob Fronk wrote:
> I wouldn't want this list to change one bit.  Sometimes I read the
very OT
> stuff, sometimes not.  We get to know each other on this list and most
of us
> have never seen or spoken to one another.
>
>
>
> Truly, this thread is just more "noise" and the op is just adding to
it by
> starting the subject in the first place.
>
>
>
> Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is needed.
>
>
>
> I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to
prosper.
>
>
>
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> This list has always had its noise, it's unavoidable. It definitely
seems to
> be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low.
>
>
>
> That being said, it's an invaluable resource.
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete
the
> messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just
to
> ignore a thread, not read it, and move on?  Read what's important.
Most on
> topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo.
>
>
>
> I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within
the
> contributors.  It gives my a good laugh too from time to time.  Stu
always
> seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt.
>
>
>
> -Sam
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its
> moments..).
>
> Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal
itself
> has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse..
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith
>  wrote:
>
> If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop
out
> awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy.
>
> The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise.
>
> 
> From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting
75 of
> them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of
them
> isn't scalable.
>
> I'm

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Gary Whitten]

There is

  _  

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?



Isn't there a 80's hair metal song called Tease Me, Please Me or something
like that?  

 



 

Shook

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

 

Shook stop reading this message right now!!!

Love Shookie baby, and I really LOVE to tease him.  At the risk of shocking
this list, Shook is actually a very nice guy, southern gentleman and all
that.  He's one of the few people from this list that I've actually had the
chance to meet in person.  

Ok, I'll resume normal Shookie bashing now ;)

Sometimes the banter and rabbit trails of threads going w OT is what
keeps me sane on some days.  I wouldn't want that to change at all.  

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been lurking here for a while and for the life of me I can't figure out
if SHOOK is LOVED or HATED!!!  But I think you are 100% correct.

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:

+1

The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
of an otherwise dismal day!

Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

--
ME2




On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Bob Fronk wrote:
> I wouldn't want this list to change one bit.  Sometimes I read the very OT
> stuff, sometimes not.  We get to know each other on this list and most of
us
> have never seen or spoken to one another.
>
>
>
> Truly, this thread is just more "noise" and the op is just adding to it by
> starting the subject in the first place.
>
>
>
> Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is needed.
>
>
>
> I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to prosper.
>
>
>
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> This list has always had its noise, it's unavoidable. It definitely seems
to
> be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low.
>
>
>
> That being said, it's an invaluable resource.
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>
> I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete the
> messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just to
> ignore a thread, not read it, and move on?  Read what's important.  Most
on
> topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo.
>
>
>
> I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within the
> contributors.  It gives my a good laugh too from time to time.  Stu always
> seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt.
>
>
>
> -Sam
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its
> moments..).
>
> Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal
itself
> has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse..
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith
>  wrote:
>
> If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop out
> awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy.
>
> The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise.
>
> 
> From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting 75 of
> them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of them
> isn't scalable.
>
> I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend a
> better list?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net]
> Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> I'd be worried more if that 25% actually took up 25% of my time. But the
> delete key's a beautiful thing.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:09 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Good NT s

RE: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Mayo, Bill]

Teas'n Pleas'n by Dangerous Toys.



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?


Scorpions


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:


Isn't there a 80's hair metal song called Tease Me, Please Me or
something like that?  

 



 

Shook

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?



 

Shook stop reading this message right now!!!

Love Shookie baby, and I really LOVE to tease him.  At the risk
of shocking this list, Shook is actually a very nice guy, southern
gentleman and all that.  He's one of the few people from this list that
I've actually had the chance to meet in person.  

Ok, I'll resume normal Shookie bashing now ;)

Sometimes the banter and rabbit trails of threads going
w OT is what keeps me sane on some days.  I wouldn't want that
to change at all.  

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I've been lurking here for a while and for the life of me I
can't figure out if SHOOK is LOVED or HATED!!!  But I think you are 100%
correct.

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:

+1

The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a
genuinely
good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than
a
sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the
lighter part
of an otherwise dismal day!

Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.

--
ME2






On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Bob Fronk
wrote:
> I wouldn't want this list to change one bit.  Sometimes I read
the very OT
> stuff, sometimes not.  We get to know each other on this list
and most of us
> have never seen or spoken to one another.
>
>
>
> Truly, this thread is just more "noise" and the op is just
adding to it by
> starting the subject in the first place.
>
>
>
> Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is
needed.
>
>
>
> I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to
prosper.
>
>
>

> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM 

> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>

> This list has always had its noise, it's unavoidable. It
definitely seems to
> be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low.
>
>
>
> That being said, it's an invaluable resource.
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>

> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM 

> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
>
>

> I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't
delete the
> messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that
hard just to
> ignore a thread, not read it, and move on?  Read what's
important.  Most on
> topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo.
>
>
>
> I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust
within the
> contributors.  It gives my a good laugh too from time to time.
Stu always
> seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt.
>
>
>
> -Sam
>
>
>
> 
>

> From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM 

> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
>
> Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has
its
> moments..).
>
> Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the
signal itself
> has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot
worse..
>
> On

RE: Ft. Lauderdale, FL

[Webster]

> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
> 
> Thats where I'm living these days. I work downtown and live in the
> immediate area.  Dinner/drinks are a must!

I scheduled, right now, to stay at the Sheraton on Cyprus Creek Rd (if you
know the vendor don't use their name.  Don't know if I'm allowed to say).
I'll be arriving around noon on Sunday the 27th.  That was the only NS
flight from Nashville to there.  I'll send you my contact info off list.


Webster
> 
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Webster
> wrote:
> > Anyone here from the Ft. Lauderdale, FL area?  I’ve been invited to
> spend
> > the week of September 27th there helping a vendor develop a training
> course
> > for an upper level cert exam.  Should be free every night if you want
> to
> > meet and eat/drink somewhere.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: Good NT sysadmin list?

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Scorpions

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Isn’t there a 80’s hair metal song called Tease Me, Please Me or
> something like that?
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> Shook
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> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
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> Shook stop reading this message right now!!!
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> Love Shookie baby, and I really LOVE to tease him.  At the risk of shocking
> this list, Shook is actually a very nice guy, southern gentleman and all
> that.  He's one of the few people from this list that I've actually had the
> chance to meet in person.
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> Ok, I'll resume normal Shookie bashing now ;)
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> Sometimes the banter and rabbit trails of threads going w OT is
> what keeps me sane on some days.  I wouldn't want that to change at all.
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> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've been lurking here for a while and for the life of me I can't figure
> out if SHOOK is LOVED or HATED!!!  But I think you are 100% correct.
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> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
> michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> +1
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> The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely
> good group of people.  I think the noise is far more worth than a
> sterile robotic forum.  Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part
> of an otherwise dismal day!
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> Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this.
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> ME2
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> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Bob Fronk wrote:
> > I wouldn’t want this list to change one bit.  Sometimes I read the very
> OT
> > stuff, sometimes not.  We get to know each other on this list and most of
> us
> > have never seen or spoken to one another.
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> > Truly, this thread is just more “noise” and the op is just adding to it
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> > starting the subject in the first place.
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> > Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is needed.
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> > I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to prosper.
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> > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
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> > This list has always had its noise, it’s unavoidable. It definitely seems
> to
> > be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low.
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> > That being said, it’s an invaluable resource.
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> > Don Guyer
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> > Systems Engineer - Information Services
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> > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
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> > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
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> > I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete the
> > messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just to
> > ignore a thread, not read it, and move on?  Read what's important.  Most
> on
> > topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo.
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> > I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within the
> > contributors.  It gives my a good laugh too from time to time.  Stu
> always
> > seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt.
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> > -Sam
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> > From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list?
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> > Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its
> > moments..).
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> > Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal
> itself
> > has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse..
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> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith
> >  wrote:
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> > If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop
> out
> > awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy.
> >
> > The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise.
> >
> > 
> > From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
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> > Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting 75
> of
> > them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of them
> > isn't scalable.
> >
> > I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend a
> > better list?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net]
> > Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list?
> >
> > I'd be wor