date:20101019

We just went through this ourselves. We're a relatively small organization, and 
had to update our very-basic plan to a 
somewhat-more-detailed-but-still-pretty-basic plan.

The first step is to identify key applications and processes. That's why 
templates aren't super helpful; critical apps and process aren't going to be 
the same between any two entities.

Once you've identified them, you can then work on the rest. What would it take 
to get those things up and running in the event of a disaster?

For instance, in our case payroll and accounts payable were among the critical 
apps and processes identified. Our plan includes having agreements with other 
school districts which stipulates that they'll print checks for us on their 
stock and allow us to reimburse them.

The plan also needs to specify precisely who is responsible for what (we prefer 
to identify by job title rather than name, since the names change). And each of 
those people needs to have a backup identified.

Our plan is pretty simple--just a few pages. But it covers what it needs to.


John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us



-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Erik Goldoff
Subject: RE: Oh no, not again!

I realize that, but I'm moreso after that 'typical' things you might find in a 
disaster recovery document and the basics to include.
I'll check out the links, thanks.

J


 Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Especially in small arenas, there is no one size fits all plan, all are 
 unique situations.
 
 Check out the links on http://www.scpa-us.org and http://www.drii.org 
 for help
 
 
 Erik Goldoff
 IT  Consultant
 Systems, Networks,  Security
 
 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Oh no, not again!
 
 Seems like this is something brought up every now and then... and I hate 
 bringing it up againt BUT...
 
 I have a small client that is interested in putting together a small/basic 
 disaster recovery plan for their IT department.  Anyone know of any fairly 
 decent boiler templates or examples of this?  It's for a 'small' sized 
 client, not for a major data-center or anything like that.  I remember seeing 
 something a year or two ago regarding this but have since lost the 
 information, argh.
 
 Thanks.
 J 



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Re: Hard Drive Recovery

2010-10-19 Thread James Rankin

My granny bought an oven in 1939 made of blue enamel. When she came to move
house in 1988, it took five guys to get it out of the door, it was that
heavy. It lasted for another eleven years before it developed its first (and
only) fault, when it stopped working completely after sixty years in
service. This in addition to having survived several near misses from German
bombers early in its career.

Compare that to today's trashy white goods, which are pre-programmed to
develop faults as soon as the warranty/extended warranty runs out.

On 19 October 2010 13:24, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:

  Knowing that we’re straying off subject, but I get ticked with these
 “extended warranties” they’re always pushing.  If the product was built
 worth a darn and the company stood behind their products, you wouldn’t need
 them. It seems like you’re buying insurance in case they put out a lemon
 that lasts one day past the warranty.



 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 6:41 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hard Drive Recovery



 I have an LG fridge that was giving us some trouble...  I called their help
 line.  I kid you not, they wanted a CC # before they would refer me to an
 authorized service technician.  I said I would not give it, and unless they
 gave me a number I would call our AG consumer protection office and start a
 process with them.



 The company they referred me to gave me a couple of free suggestions to try
 and to their credit, it worked.  Nedless to say, any further calls will go
 to the company that gave me some pretty good advice and saved me some $$
 than a company that tried to extort me.

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 You think he is joking?  Come on with this economy I am suprised they have
 not begun to market some of there smaller models just for that purpose.
 They would call them that and charge higher prices for them as well.



 Jon

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:16 PM, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote:

 ROFL.  Seriously I needed that today.. J



 *Greg Sweers*

 CEO

 *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*

 *P.O. Box 1193*

 *Brandon, FL  33509*

 *813-657-0849 Office*

 *813-758-6850 Cell*

 *813-341-1270 Fax*



 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 7:14 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Hard Drive Recovery



 We need to keep this on the down low. The last thing we want is Kenmore,
 LG, etc. to start demanding licensing fees for using their appliances as
 data recovery hardware.



 - Sean

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:47 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote:

 The freezer trick always works! The last time I had a drive die here at
 home, it was resurrected in the freezer!



 Murray


  --

 *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:01 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 B, cold in here, shut the freezer door ! grin



 *Erik Goldoff*

 *IT  Consultant*

 *Systems, Networks,  Security *

 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:56 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 See the rest of the thread… issue resolved.



 *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:55 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 When you power up, does the drive spin ?  Or are you ‘registering’ the
 physical drive only through the electronics ?



 *Erik Goldoff*

 *IT  Consultant*

 *Systems, Networks,  Security *

 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 12:21 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hard Drive Recovery



 I need to try and recover a corrupt drive.  Is Ontrack EasyRecovery still
 the tool of choice on the list?



 Any other suggestions?  (I pulled the drive and put it in an external
 housing.  The drive registers as a drive, but shows no contents.  It was not
 formatted.  The PC had a BSOD, then would not boot.)



 BF

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 ~ Finally,

Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The computers 
are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year we didn't 
have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the WAPs that 
serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in that area of 
the building.

So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between 
Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in 
the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the building 
that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers-but no problems. So 
that left the latter possibility-lots of WAPs stepping on one another's toes-as 
the prime culprit.

The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I changed 
the ones in the area that was having the problem to auto, but that didn't 
seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to g rather 
than b/g/n. As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and I will be 
watching throughout the week, and if things are still working after a few days 
we'll consider the issue resolved.


John


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Subject: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

Short version:
Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the 
network wirelessly?


Long version:
We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista OS, 
connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.

I'm trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group Policy. I 
have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain group, the 
software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on one of the 
machines-on all the rest, the software isn't being deployed.

So I connect to any of the machines that didn't get the software, and run 
gpresult. It doesn't show me that those machines are members of the group that 
gets the software. But I know they are; I've confirmed in ADUC on the DC. 
They're just not picking up group membership.

Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see things 
that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior to the 
wireless network being initialized. Things like:

Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service the 
logon request.)
Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer to use as a time source 
because of discovery error.)
Event ID 1129 (The processing of Group Policy failed because of lack of network 
connectivity to a domain controller.)

Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Del] window. 
You can log in (including as someone who has never logged into the machine 
before), ping the DC, browse to \\domain\syvolfile:///\\domain\syvol, and so 
on. It's just that at that point, group policy processing seems to have given 
up. My machines aren't figuring out that they've been added to a new group.

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery

I'd love to have that oven.
IT was likely cast iron and coated in blue enamel.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:48 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 My granny bought an oven in 1939 made of blue enamel. When she came to move
 house in 1988, it took five guys to get it out of the door, it was that
 heavy. It lasted for another eleven years before it developed its first (and
 only) fault, when it stopped working completely after sixty years in
 service. This in addition to having survived several near misses from German
 bombers early in its career.

 Compare that to today's trashy white goods, which are pre-programmed to
 develop faults as soon as the warranty/extended warranty runs out.


 On 19 October 2010 13:24, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:

  Knowing that we’re straying off subject, but I get ticked with these
 “extended warranties” they’re always pushing.  If the product was built
 worth a darn and the company stood behind their products, you wouldn’t need
 them. It seems like you’re buying insurance in case they put out a lemon
 that lasts one day past the warranty.



 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 6:41 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hard Drive Recovery



 I have an LG fridge that was giving us some trouble...  I called their
 help line.  I kid you not, they wanted a CC # before they would refer me to
 an authorized service technician.  I said I would not give it, and unless
 they gave me a number I would call our AG consumer protection office and
 start a process with them.



 The company they referred me to gave me a couple of free suggestions to
 try and to their credit, it worked.  Nedless to say, any further calls will
 go to the company that gave me some pretty good advice and saved me some $$
 than a company that tried to extort me.

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 You think he is joking?  Come on with this economy I am suprised they have
 not begun to market some of there smaller models just for that purpose.
 They would call them that and charge higher prices for them as well.



 Jon

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:16 PM, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote:

 ROFL.  Seriously I needed that today.. J



 *Greg Sweers*

 CEO

 *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*

 *P.O. Box 1193*

 *Brandon, FL  33509*

 *813-657-0849 Office*

 *813-758-6850 Cell*

 *813-341-1270 Fax*



 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 7:14 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Hard Drive Recovery



 We need to keep this on the down low. The last thing we want is Kenmore,
 LG, etc. to start demanding licensing fees for using their appliances as
 data recovery hardware.



 - Sean

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:47 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote:

 The freezer trick always works! The last time I had a drive die here at
 home, it was resurrected in the freezer!



 Murray


  --

 *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:01 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 B, cold in here, shut the freezer door ! grin



 *Erik Goldoff*

 *IT  Consultant*

 *Systems, Networks,  Security *

 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:56 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 See the rest of the thread… issue resolved.



 *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:55 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 When you power up, does the drive spin ?  Or are you ‘registering’ the
 physical drive only through the electronics ?



 *Erik Goldoff*

 *IT  Consultant*

 *Systems, Networks,  Security *

 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 12:21 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hard Drive Recovery



 I need to try and recover a corrupt drive.  Is Ontrack EasyRecovery still
 the tool of choice on the list?



 Any other suggestions?  (I pulled the drive and put it in an external
 housing.  The drive registers as a drive, but shows no contents.  It was not
 formatted.  The PC had a BSOD, then would not boot.)



 BF

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery

2010-10-19 Thread James Rankin

Quite likely

It would be worth quite a lot even in scrap metal now, seeing as though
apparently it weighed as much as an elephant. I was wondering where it ended
up, but unfortunately my gran isn't as lucid now as she was when it went the
journey, so I guess it will have to remain a mystery

On 19 October 2010 13:57, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd love to have that oven.
 IT was likely cast iron and coated in blue enamel.

 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:48 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 My granny bought an oven in 1939 made of blue enamel. When she came to
 move house in 1988, it took five guys to get it out of the door, it was that
 heavy. It lasted for another eleven years before it developed its first (and
 only) fault, when it stopped working completely after sixty years in
 service. This in addition to having survived several near misses from German
 bombers early in its career.

 Compare that to today's trashy white goods, which are pre-programmed to
 develop faults as soon as the warranty/extended warranty runs out.


 On 19 October 2010 13:24, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:

  Knowing that we’re straying off subject, but I get ticked with these
 “extended warranties” they’re always pushing.  If the product was built
 worth a darn and the company stood behind their products, you wouldn’t need
 them. It seems like you’re buying insurance in case they put out a lemon
 that lasts one day past the warranty.



 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 6:41 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hard Drive Recovery



 I have an LG fridge that was giving us some trouble...  I called their
 help line.  I kid you not, they wanted a CC # before they would refer me to
 an authorized service technician.  I said I would not give it, and unless
 they gave me a number I would call our AG consumer protection office and
 start a process with them.



 The company they referred me to gave me a couple of free suggestions to
 try and to their credit, it worked.  Nedless to say, any further calls will
 go to the company that gave me some pretty good advice and saved me some $$
 than a company that tried to extort me.

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 You think he is joking?  Come on with this economy I am suprised they
 have not begun to market some of there smaller models just for that
 purpose.  They would call them that and charge higher prices for them as
 well.



 Jon

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:16 PM, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote:

 ROFL.  Seriously I needed that today.. J



 *Greg Sweers*

 CEO

 *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*

 *P.O. Box 1193*

 *Brandon, FL  33509*

 *813-657-0849 Office*

 *813-758-6850 Cell*

 *813-341-1270 Fax*



 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 7:14 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Hard Drive Recovery



 We need to keep this on the down low. The last thing we want is Kenmore,
 LG, etc. to start demanding licensing fees for using their appliances as
 data recovery hardware.



 - Sean

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:47 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote:

 The freezer trick always works! The last time I had a drive die here at
 home, it was resurrected in the freezer!



 Murray


  --

 *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:01 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 B, cold in here, shut the freezer door ! grin



 *Erik Goldoff*

 *IT  Consultant*

 *Systems, Networks,  Security *

 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:56 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 See the rest of the thread… issue resolved.



 *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 2:55 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hard Drive Recovery



 When you power up, does the drive spin ?  Or are you ‘registering’ the
 physical drive only through the electronics ?



 *Erik Goldoff*

 *IT  Consultant*

 *Systems, Networks,  Security *

 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 12:21 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hard Drive Recovery



 I need to try and recover a corrupt drive.  Is Ontrack EasyRecovery still
 the tool of choice on the list?



 Any other suggestions?  (I pulled the drive and put it in an external
 housing.  The drive registers as a drive, but shows no contents.  It was not
 formatted.  The PC had a BSOD, then would not boot.)



 BF

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~

Re: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware

2010-10-19 Thread Bob Hartung

We've been using it for quite awhile. We have 10 licenses.

Tech support is OK. Designing labels is pretty straight forward. I like that 
they have a print-only version of the software so end users are presented with 
a pretty simple interface.

--

Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
  _  

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:10:05 -0500
Subject: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware

  
  

Can anyone make a reco, I have several old seats I need to upgrade and 
consolidate into one app version so all the labels are compat.  

   

The newest I have is Teklynx I think, is that good stuff? Worth to go forward 
with?  

   

Thanks!
  jlc  

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RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

2010-10-19 Thread Glen Johnson

We just had a Cisco site survey done for our wireless and he said never set 
them to auto for the channel.

Plot the waps on a map and manually configure the channels to 1 6 or 11 for 
minimum overlap. IE, waps on the same channel need to be separated to prevent 
interference.  We had previously had ours set to auto and following his advise 
helped quite a bit.

His explanation is that, when configured for auto, the wap listens when it 
boots and selects the least busy channel.

That may be good at boot time but could change significantly later on.

Also, if a wap chooses any channel other than 1, 6 or 11, it can cause 
interference with on other channels.

With these 3 channels selected, you get 3 non-overlapping channels.

Any other channel will overlap with 2 of the above.




From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The computers 
are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year we didn’t 
have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the WAPs that 
serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in that area of 
the building.

So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between 
Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in 
the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the building 
that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers—but no problems. So 
that left the latter possibility—lots of WAPs stepping on one another’s toes—as 
the prime culprit.

The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I changed 
the ones in the area that was having the problem to “auto,” but that didn’t 
seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to “g” rather 
than “b/g/n.” As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and I will be 
watching throughout the week, and if things are still working after a few days 
we’ll consider the issue resolved.


John


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Subject: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

Short version:
Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the 
network wirelessly?


Long version:
We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista OS, 
connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.

I’m trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group Policy. I 
have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain group, the 
software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on one of the 
machines—on all the rest, the software isn’t being deployed.

So I connect to any of the machines that didn’t get the software, and run 
gpresult. It doesn’t show me that those machines are members of the group that 
gets the software. But I know they are; I’ve confirmed in ADUC on the DC. 
They’re just not picking up group membership.

Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see things 
that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior to the 
wireless network being initialized. Things like:

Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service the 
logon request.)
Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer to use as a time source 
because of discovery error.)
Event ID 1129 (The processing of Group Policy failed because of lack of network 
connectivity to a domain controller.)

Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Del] window. 
You can log in (including as someone who has never logged into the machine 
before), ping the DC, browse to \\domain\syvolfile:///\\domain\syvol, and so 
on. It’s just that at that point, group policy processing seems to have given 
up. My machines aren’t figuring out that they’ve been added to a new group.

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I've used Kaspersky at the desktop, but not recently.

My take is that it (along with McAfee and Panda) are better products when
used in a gateway solution (UTM or email security) than on the desktop.   It
was buggier than I cared[1] for, and was a bit annoying to centrally
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 I wonder if anyone has deployed kaspersky antivirus software console

 This will be to about 200 machines

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Re: Oh no, not again!

A template or outline is still useful.  It just needs to focus on the
methodology of developing a BCP and/or DR plan, and not on the plan items
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 We just went through this ourselves. We're a relatively small organization,
 and had to update our very-basic plan to a
 somewhat-more-detailed-but-still-pretty-basic plan.

 The first step is to identify key applications and processes. That's why
 templates aren't super helpful; critical apps and process aren't going to be
 the same between any two entities.

 Once you've identified them, you can then work on the rest. What would it
 take to get those things up and running in the event of a disaster?

 For instance, in our case payroll and accounts payable were among the
 critical apps and processes identified. Our plan includes having agreements
 with other school districts which stipulates that they'll print checks for
 us on their stock and allow us to reimburse them.

 The plan also needs to specify precisely who is responsible for what (we
 prefer to identify by job title rather than name, since the names change).
 And each of those people needs to have a backup identified.

 Our plan is pretty simple--just a few pages. But it covers what it needs
 to.


 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us



 -Original Message-
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Cc: Erik Goldoff
 Subject: RE: Oh no, not again!

 I realize that, but I'm moreso after that 'typical' things you might find
 in a disaster recovery document and the basics to include.
 I'll check out the links, thanks.

 J


  Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote:
  Especially in small arenas, there is no one size fits all plan, all are
 unique situations.
 
  Check out the links on http://www.scpa-us.org and http://www.drii.org
  for help
 
 
  Erik Goldoff
  IT  Consultant
  Systems, Networks,  Security
 
  '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:11 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Oh no, not again!
 
  Seems like this is something brought up every now and then... and I hate
 bringing it up againt BUT...
 
  I have a small client that is interested in putting together a
 small/basic disaster recovery plan for their IT department.  Anyone know of
 any fairly decent boiler templates or examples of this?  It's for a 'small'
 sized client, not for a major data-center or anything like that.  I remember
 seeing something a year or two ago regarding this but have since lost the
 information, argh.
 
  Thanks.
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RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

*headdesk*

IMO...never set your APs to Auto. Spend the time, or the money, or both, for a 
decent site survey. Use only channels 1, 6,  11, and lay your APs out so that 
the APs on the same channels are not close to each other, because too much 
signal overlap on the same channel will cause RF collision.

Once setup, review periodically (quarterly, semi-annually, annually, etc) to 
make sure no one has added any wireless in the area that would interfere (or 
use the utilities built in if you have something like Cisco Wireless Control 
System with centralized controllers). Keep in mind that RF noise is additive. 
Any NON 802.11 RF signal will be considered noise, and the more there is, the 
more it will work against your 802.11 equipment - decreasing the 
signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) and increasing the chances of wireless data traffic 
corruption.

Side note: There are enough channels in the 802.11a spectrum (5GHz) that 
channel plans are not usually necessary.

Furthermore.Anyone dealing with wireless networks need to understand SNR 
(Signal to Noise Ratio) and how it impacts wireless performance. It's like 
trying to talk with another adult in the same room when you have a couple of 
chatty children in the same room. You can carry on a conversation with another 
adult across the room, but if you double the number of children, you have to 
raise your voice. Add enough children, and no matter how loudly you shout, the 
other adult will never hear you, and vice versa...

Here's a link that does a good job of explaining it and provides some 
guidelines:

wi-fiplanet.com - How to: Define Minimum SNR Values for Signal 
Coveragehttp://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3743986/How-to-Define-Minimum-SNR-Values-for-Signal-Coverage.htm

Hope this helps.

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From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The computers 
are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year we didn't 
have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the WAPs that 
serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in that area of 
the building.

So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between 
Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in 
the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the building 
that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers-but no problems. So 
that left the latter possibility-lots of WAPs stepping on one another's toes-as 
the prime culprit.

The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I changed 
the ones in the area that was having the problem to auto, but that didn't 
seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to g rather 
than b/g/n. As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and I will be 
watching throughout the week, and if things are still working after a few days 
we'll consider the issue resolved.


John


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Subject: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

Short version:
Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the 
network wirelessly?


Long version:
We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista OS, 
connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.

I'm trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group Policy. I 
have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain group, the 
software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on one of the 
machines-on all the rest, the software isn't being deployed.

So I connect to any of the machines that didn't get the software, and run 
gpresult. It doesn't show me that those machines are members of the group that 
gets the software. But I know they are; I've confirmed in ADUC on the DC. 
They're just not picking up group membership.

Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see things 
that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior to the 
wireless network being initialized. Things like:

Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service the 
logon request.)
Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer to use as a time source 
because of discovery error.)
Event ID 1129 (The processing of Group Policy failed because of lack of network 
connectivity to a domain controller.)

Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Del] window. 
You can log in

Office 2000 SP1

Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it,
I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!






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Re: Office 2000 SP1

Maybe you should be using Office 2000 sp3?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=5c011c70-47d0-4306-9fa4-8e92d36332fe

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:14 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
 wrote:

 Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
 Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
 It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
 dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for
 now.

 I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
 starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
 the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
 the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
 site. *sigh*

 If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it,
 I'd greatly appreciate it!

 Thanks!






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RE: Office 2000 SP1

Do you mean the full download for office, or the full download for the service 
pack/release?

If you have the Office CD, you'll need sp1a, followed by SP3, as the other 
Jonathan points out below. Here is the link to SR1a (which includes SR1).

Office 2000 Service Release 1a 
(SR-1a)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=AF6C8D03-7633-45B4-AB96-795EE656F2A2displaylang=EN

If you want the full download of Office 2000...good luck. Even on my open 
license site, the furthest back I see for download in the archives is Office 
2003, and I plainly have Office 2000 listed as one of my licensed apps.


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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Office 2000 SP1

Maybe you should be using Office 2000 sp3?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=5c011c70-47d0-4306-9fa4-8e92d36332fe
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:14 AM, John Aldrich 
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it,
I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!






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RE: Office 2000 SP1

2010-10-19 Thread Ames Matthew B

I can't see it in my MSDN download list, so I guessing it has gone,
after all mainstream support ended back in 2004, and extended ended in
June 2009.

Can you not just install 2000 and then apply sp1 (although sp3 exists)
to it afterwards, or make your own slipstream disk?  A quick google
gives me this link:
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=272


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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: 19 October 2010 15:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office 2000 SP1

Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install
for Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more
(duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a
half dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have
for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to
download the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it
can't download the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft
removed it from their site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download
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Thanks!






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ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread Stefan Jafs

Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size
environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

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RE: Office 2000 SP1

No, just the full DL of the SP. I have the CD. :-) I've tried downloading
SP1A, but it just wants to download the starter and that fails. I'll try
your download and see. Thanks.

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

Do you mean the full download for office, or the full download for the
service pack/release?

If you have the Office CD, youll need sp1a, followed by SP3, as the other
Jonathan points out below. Here is the link to SR1a (which includes SR1).

Office 2000 Service Release 1a (SR-1a)

If you want the full download of Office 2000good luck. Even on my open
license site, the furthest back I see for download in the archives is Office
2003, and I plainly have Office 2000 listed as one of my licensed apps.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Office 2000 SP1

Maybe you should be using Office 2000 sp3?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=5c011c70-47d0-43
06-9fa4-8e92d36332fe
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:14 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it,
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Thanks!

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RE: Oh no, not again!

I didn't say it wasn't useful; I said it wasn't super useful.

:)

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Oh no, not again!

A template or outline is still useful.  It just needs to focus on the 
methodology of developing a BCP and/or DR plan, and not on the plan items 
themselves.

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 
wrote:
We just went through this ourselves. We're a relatively small organization, and 
had to update our very-basic plan to a 
somewhat-more-detailed-but-still-pretty-basic plan.

The first step is to identify key applications and processes. That's why 
templates aren't super helpful; critical apps and process aren't going to be 
the same between any two entities.

Once you've identified them, you can then work on the rest. What would it take 
to get those things up and running in the event of a disaster?

For instance, in our case payroll and accounts payable were among the critical 
apps and processes identified. Our plan includes having agreements with other 
school districts which stipulates that they'll print checks for us on their 
stock and allow us to reimburse them.

The plan also needs to specify precisely who is responsible for what (we prefer 
to identify by job title rather than name, since the names change). And each of 
those people needs to have a backup identified.

Our plan is pretty simple--just a few pages. But it covers what it needs to.

John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us

-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.commailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com 
[mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.commailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Erik Goldoff
Subject: RE: Oh no, not again!

I realize that, but I'm moreso after that 'typical' things you might find in a 
disaster recovery document and the basics to include.
I'll check out the links, thanks.

J

 Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.commailto:egold...@gmail.com wrote:
 Especially in small arenas, there is no one size fits all plan, all are 
 unique situations.

 Check out the links on http://www.scpa-us.org and http://www.drii.org
 for help

 Erik Goldoff
 IT  Consultant
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 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.commailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com 
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 Subject: Oh no, not again!

 Seems like this is something brought up every now and then... and I hate 
 bringing it up againt BUT...

 I have a small client that is interested in putting together a small/basic 
 disaster recovery plan for their IT department.  Anyone know of any fairly 
 decent boiler templates or examples of this?  It's for a 'small' sized 
 client, not for a major data-center or anything like that.  I remember seeing 
 something a year or two ago regarding this but have since lost the 
 information, argh.

 Thanks.
 J

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RE: Office 2000 SP1

2010-10-19 Thread Ames Matthew B

I can see downloads for Office XP, 2002, 2003, 2007, 2001, but 2000 is
missing in my msdn account.

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: 19 October 2010 15:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

Do you mean the full download for office, or the full download for the
service pack/release?

If you have the Office CD, you'll need sp1a, followed by SP3, as the
other Jonathan points out below. Here is the link to SR1a (which
includes SR1).

Office 2000 Service Release 1a (SR-1a)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=AF6C8D03-76
33-45B4-AB96-795EE656F2A2displaylang=EN 

If you want the full download of Office 2000...good luck. Even on my
open license site, the furthest back I see for download in the archives
is Office 2003, and I plainly have Office 2000 listed as one of my
licensed apps.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Office 2000 SP1

Maybe you should be using Office 2000 sp3?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=5c011c70-47d
0-4306-9fa4-8e92d36332fe

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:14 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:

Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install
for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more
(duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a
half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for
now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to
download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't
download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from
their
site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download
it,
I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!

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RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

The theory behind auto seems good... Listen for a channel that's not noisy, 
then use it. But I get what you're saying--there may not be interference on a 
particular channel when the WAP boots, but that doesn't mean there won't be 
later.

The trouble is that we have 4 WAPs in close proximity. If I should only use 
those 3 channels, what's my best approach?


-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

We just had a Cisco site survey done for our wireless and he said never set 
them to auto for the channel.

Plot the waps on a map and manually configure the channels to 1 6 or 11 for 
minimum overlap. IE, waps on the same channel need to be separated to prevent 
interference.  We had previously had ours set to auto and following his advise 
helped quite a bit.

His explanation is that, when configured for auto, the wap listens when it 
boots and selects the least busy channel.

That may be good at boot time but could change significantly later on.

Also, if a wap chooses any channel other than 1, 6 or 11, it can cause 
interference with on other channels.

With these 3 channels selected, you get 3 non-overlapping channels.

Any other channel will overlap with 2 of the above.




From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The computers 
are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year we didn't 
have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the WAPs that 
serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in that area of 
the building.

So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between 
Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in 
the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the building 
that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers-but no problems. So 
that left the latter possibility-lots of WAPs stepping on one another's toes-as 
the prime culprit.

The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I changed 
the ones in the area that was having the problem to auto, but that didn't 
seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to g rather 
than b/g/n. As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and I will be 
watching throughout the week, and if things are still working after a few days 
we'll consider the issue resolved.


John


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Subject: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

Short version:
Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the 
network wirelessly?


Long version:
We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista OS, 
connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.

I'm trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group Policy. I 
have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain group, the 
software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on one of the 
machines-on all the rest, the software isn't being deployed.

So I connect to any of the machines that didn't get the software, and run 
gpresult. It doesn't show me that those machines are members of the group that 
gets the software. But I know they are; I've confirmed in ADUC on the DC. 
They're just not picking up group membership.

Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see things 
that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior to the 
wireless network being initialized. Things like:

Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service the 
logon request.) Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer to use 
as a time source because of discovery error.) Event ID 1129 (The processing of 
Group Policy failed because of lack of network connectivity to a domain 
controller.)

Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Del] window. 
You can log in (including as someone who has never logged into the machine 
before), ping the DC, browse to \\domain\syvolfile:///\\domain\syvol, and so 
on. It's just that at that point, group policy processing seems to have given 
up. My machines aren't figuring out that they've been added to a new group.

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RE: Office 2000 SP1

Nope. That's the starter which is *supposed* to download the rest,
unfortunately, it goes like 10 seconds and then comes back with an error
that it can't download. :-(

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

Do you mean the full download for office, or the full download for the
service pack/release?

If you have the Office CD, youll need sp1a, followed by SP3, as the other
Jonathan points out below. Here is the link to SR1a (which includes SR1).

Office 2000 Service Release 1a (SR-1a)

If you want the full download of Office 2000good luck. Even on my open
license site, the furthest back I see for download in the archives is Office
2003, and I plainly have Office 2000 listed as one of my licensed apps.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Office 2000 SP1

Maybe you should be using Office 2000 sp3?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=5c011c70-47d0-43
06-9fa4-8e92d36332fe
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:14 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it,
I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!

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RE: Office 2000 SP1

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Schaefer

I don't think that's the reason (lack of support) - Office 95 is still 
available for download (as is Win3.11 and DOS 6.2).

There were a bunch of products removed from MSDN/Technet many years ago due to 
various law suits that Microsoft settled. The major one was with Sun around 
Java/J++, which necessitating removing a bunch of software that was infringing. 
That included some versions of Office, some versions of Visual Studio etc. I 
remember receiving a letter from MSDN about it at the time.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

I can't see it in my MSDN download list, so I guessing it has gone, after all 
mainstream support ended back in 2004, and extended ended in June 2009.

Can you not just install 2000 and then apply sp1 (although sp3 exists) to it 
afterwards, or make your own slipstream disk?  A quick google gives me this 
link:
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=272


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: 19 October 2010 15:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office 2000 SP1

Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for 
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half 
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the starter 
setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download the update and 
then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download the update, and 
I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it, I'd 
greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!

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RE: Office 2000 SP1

Could be... All's I know is I can't install SP3 without first installing
SP1(a), which I can't seem to download anywhere. :-(

*sigh*

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

I don't think that's the reason (lack of support) - Office 95 is still
available for download (as is Win3.11 and DOS 6.2).

There were a bunch of products removed from MSDN/Technet many years ago due
to various law suits that Microsoft settled. The major one was with Sun
around Java/J++, which necessitating removing a bunch of software that was
infringing. That included some versions of Office, some versions of Visual
Studio etc. I remember receiving a letter from MSDN about it at the time.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

I can't see it in my MSDN download list, so I guessing it has gone, after
all mainstream support ended back in 2004, and extended ended in June 2009.

Can you not just install 2000 and then apply sp1 (although sp3 exists) to it
afterwards, or make your own slipstream disk?  A quick google gives me this
link:
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=272

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: 19 October 2010 15:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office 2000 SP1

Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it,
I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!

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RE: Office 2000 SP1

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Hutchings

John,

I think I have it here, a folder on one of our old distribution shares
called SR1 with around 350mb of stuff and a o2ksr1a.exe in the root.

Let me know off-list if it's any use.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: 19 October 2010 15:44
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

Could be... All's I know is I can't install SP3 without first installing
SP1(a), which I can't seem to download anywhere. :-(

*sigh*


-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

I don't think that's the reason (lack of support) - Office 95 is still
available for download (as is Win3.11 and DOS 6.2).

There were a bunch of products removed from MSDN/Technet many years ago
due
to various law suits that Microsoft settled. The major one was with Sun
around Java/J++, which necessitating removing a bunch of software that
was
infringing. That included some versions of Office, some versions of
Visual
Studio etc. I remember receiving a letter from MSDN about it at the
time.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

I can't see it in my MSDN download list, so I guessing it has gone,
after
all mainstream support ended back in 2004, and extended ended in June
2009.

Can you not just install 2000 and then apply sp1 (although sp3 exists)
to it
afterwards, or make your own slipstream disk?  A quick google gives me
this
link:
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=272


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: 19 October 2010 15:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office 2000 SP1

Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install
for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more
(duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a
half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for
now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to
download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't
download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from
their
site. *sigh*

If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download
it,
I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!

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Re: Office 2000 SP1

http://forums.techarena.in/office-update-service/1252357.htm

Suggests searching for the file directly and even provides a link
(untested).  Note, if you do this, I would do my best I get the file from a
source that is trustworthy and I would scan that file with multiple AV
packages.  And even double check some attributes with Paul Hutchings who
indicated he still had the files available.



On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
 wrote:

 Could be... All's I know is I can't install SP3 without first installing
 SP1(a), which I can't seem to download anywhere. :-(

 *sigh*


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:39 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

 I don't think that's the reason (lack of support) - Office 95 is still
 available for download (as is Win3.11 and DOS 6.2).

 There were a bunch of products removed from MSDN/Technet many years ago due
 to various law suits that Microsoft settled. The major one was with Sun
 around Java/J++, which necessitating removing a bunch of software that was
 infringing. That included some versions of Office, some versions of Visual
 Studio etc. I remember receiving a letter from MSDN about it at the time.

 Cheers
 Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:27 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

 I can't see it in my MSDN download list, so I guessing it has gone, after
 all mainstream support ended back in 2004, and extended ended in June 2009.

 Can you not just install 2000 and then apply sp1 (although sp3 exists) to
 it
 afterwards, or make your own slipstream disk?  A quick google gives me this
 link:
 http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=272


 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: 19 October 2010 15:15
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Office 2000 SP1

 Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
 Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
 It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
 dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for
 now.

 I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
 starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
 the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
 the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
 site. *sigh*

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RE: Office 2000 SP1

Thank you. I am downloading from one of the links now. Perhaps Paul can send
me the file size of the one he's got

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Office 2000 SP1

http://forums.techarena.in/office-update-service/1252357.htm

Suggests searching for the file directly and even provides a link
(untested).  Note, if you do this, I would do my best I get the file from a
source that is trustworthy and I would scan that file with multiple AV
packages.  And even double check some attributes with Paul Hutchings who
indicated he still had the files available.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Could be... All's I know is I can't install SP3 without first installing
SP1(a), which I can't seem to download anywhere. :-(

*sigh*

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

I don't think that's the reason (lack of support) - Office 95 is still
available for download (as is Win3.11 and DOS 6.2).

There were a bunch of products removed from MSDN/Technet many years ago due
to various law suits that Microsoft settled. The major one was with Sun
around Java/J++, which necessitating removing a bunch of software that was
infringing. That included some versions of Office, some versions of Visual
Studio etc. I remember receiving a letter from MSDN about it at the time.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

I can't see it in my MSDN download list, so I guessing it has gone, after
all mainstream support ended back in 2004, and extended ended in June 2009.

Can you not just install 2000 and then apply sp1 (although sp3 exists) to it
afterwards, or make your own slipstream disk?  A quick google gives me this
link:
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=272

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: 19 October 2010 15:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office 2000 SP1

Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for now.

I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
site. *sigh*

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I'd greatly appreciate it!

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Re: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

2010-10-19 Thread Jeff Steward

http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/auditing/wifi-backtrack_2038

http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/auditing/wifi-backtrack_2038Here
is a whitepaper on using the free backtrack bootable CD to audit and map
your wireless network or hire someone to do it.  I took the SANS 'Assessing
and Securing Wireless Networks' course a few years back and it was well
worth the money.  Of course, your head may explode by the end of the course
:-)

The short answer is to use 3 channels and double up on the pair of APs that
are furthest apart.  YMMV.

-Jeff Steward

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 The theory behind auto seems good... Listen for a channel that's not noisy,
 then use it. But I get what you're saying--there may not be interference on
 a particular channel when the WAP boots, but that doesn't mean there won't
 be later.

 The trouble is that we have 4 WAPs in close proximity. If I should only use
 those 3 channels, what's my best approach?


 -Original Message-
 From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:23 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

 We just had a Cisco site survey done for our wireless and he said never
 set them to auto for the channel.

 Plot the waps on a map and manually configure the channels to 1 6 or 11 for
 minimum overlap. IE, waps on the same channel need to be separated to
 prevent interference.  We had previously had ours set to auto and following
 his advise helped quite a bit.

 His explanation is that, when configured for auto, the wap listens when it
 boots and selects the least busy channel.

 That may be good at boot time but could change significantly later on.

 Also, if a wap chooses any channel other than 1, 6 or 11, it can cause
 interference with on other channels.

 With these 3 channels selected, you get 3 non-overlapping channels.

 Any other channel will overlap with 2 of the above.



 
 From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

 No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

 I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The
 computers are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year
 we didn't have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the
 WAPs that serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in
 that area of the building.

 So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between
 Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in
 the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the
 building that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers-but no
 problems. So that left the latter possibility-lots of WAPs stepping on one
 another's toes-as the prime culprit.

 The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I
 changed the ones in the area that was having the problem to auto, but that
 didn't seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to
 g rather than b/g/n. As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and
 I will be watching throughout the week, and if things are still working
 after a few days we'll consider the issue resolved.


 John


 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Subject: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

 Short version:
 Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the
 network wirelessly?


 Long version:
 We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista
 OS, connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.

 I'm trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group
 Policy. I have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain
 group, the software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on
 one of the machines-on all the rest, the software isn't being deployed.

 So I connect to any of the machines that didn't get the software, and run
 gpresult. It doesn't show me that those machines are members of the group
 that gets the software. But I know they are; I've confirmed in ADUC on the
 DC. They're just not picking up group membership.

 Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see
 things that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior
 to the wireless network being initialized. Things like:

 Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service
 the logon request.) Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer
 to use as a time source because of discovery error.) Event ID 1129 (The
 processing of Group Policy failed because of lack of network connectivity to
 a domain controller.)

 Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get

RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

I'm just now looking at this:

www.flukenetworks.com/TryAirCheckhttp://www.flukenetworks.com/TryAirCheck

Thinking it might be useful...



From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/auditing/wifi-backtrack_2038

Here is a whitepaper on using the free backtrack bootable CD to audit and map 
your wireless network or hire someone to do it.  I took the SANS 'Assessing and 
Securing Wireless Networks' course a few years back and it was well worth the 
money.  Of course, your head may explode by the end of the course :-)

The short answer is to use 3 channels and double up on the pair of APs that are 
furthest apart.  YMMV.

-Jeff Steward
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 
wrote:
The theory behind auto seems good... Listen for a channel that's not noisy, 
then use it. But I get what you're saying--there may not be interference on a 
particular channel when the WAP boots, but that doesn't mean there won't be 
later.

The trouble is that we have 4 WAPs in close proximity. If I should only use 
those 3 channels, what's my best approach?


-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edumailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

We just had a Cisco site survey done for our wireless and he said never set 
them to auto for the channel.

Plot the waps on a map and manually configure the channels to 1 6 or 11 for 
minimum overlap. IE, waps on the same channel need to be separated to prevent 
interference.  We had previously had ours set to auto and following his advise 
helped quite a bit.

His explanation is that, when configured for auto, the wap listens when it 
boots and selects the least busy channel.

That may be good at boot time but could change significantly later on.

Also, if a wap chooses any channel other than 1, 6 or 11, it can cause 
interference with on other channels.

With these 3 channels selected, you get 3 non-overlapping channels.

Any other channel will overlap with 2 of the above.




From: John Hornbuckle 
[john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The computers 
are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year we didn't 
have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the WAPs that 
serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in that area of 
the building.

So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between 
Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in 
the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the building 
that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers-but no problems. So 
that left the latter possibility-lots of WAPs stepping on one another's toes-as 
the prime culprit.

The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I changed 
the ones in the area that was having the problem to auto, but that didn't 
seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to g rather 
than b/g/n. As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and I will be 
watching throughout the week, and if things are still working after a few days 
we'll consider the issue resolved.


John


From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Subject: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

Short version:
Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the 
network wirelessly?


Long version:
We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista OS, 
connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.

I'm trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group Policy. I 
have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain group, the 
software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on one of the 
machines-on all the rest, the software isn't being deployed.

So I connect to any of the machines that didn't get the software, and run 
gpresult. It doesn't show me that those machines are members of the group that 
gets the software. But I know they are; I've confirmed in ADUC on the DC. 
They're just not picking up group membership.

Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see things 
that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior to the 
wireless network being initialized. Things like:

Event ID 5719

Re: ESET vs VIPRE

We have 250 VIPRE clients in 7 locations.  There are occasional minor
annoyances with VIPRE but it runs well and provides the best active
protection available.  We're up for renewal in a couple months and I'm not
looking to switch to another product.


Roger Wright
___

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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.




On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
 that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size
 environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

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Re: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware

My previous employer also used ancient version of BarTender with Zebra
printers.  Solid, and did everything they needed, even if the interface
wasn't too up to date.


Roger Wright
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 $WORK uses Zebra printers with Seagull Software's Bartender software,
 mostly for serializing parts, but for some other things as well.

 Seems to work well, but I have a project ahead of me at some point to
 get it upgraded from a roughly 10 year old version to something
 current, especially since it's running on a virtualized Win2k Pro box
 with a parallel port dongle on an ESX3.5 box

 Kurt

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 17:10, Joseph L. Casale
 jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
  Can anyone make a reco, I have several old seats I need to upgrade and
  consolidate into one app version so all the labels are compat.
 
 
 
  The newest I have is Teklynx I think, is that good stuff? Worth to go
  forward with?
 
 
 
  Thanks!
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RE: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware

We have TL Ashford software with Intermec thermal transfer printers. Not
sure how well it works, as I haven't ever had to use it, but we have it. :-)

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware

My previous employer also used ancient version of BarTender with Zebra
printers.  Solid, and did everything they needed, even if the interface
wasn't too up to date.

Roger Wright
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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
$WORK uses Zebra printers with Seagull Software's Bartender software,
mostly for serializing parts, but for some other things as well.

Seems to work well, but I have a project ahead of me at some point to
get it upgraded from a roughly 10 year old version to something
current, especially since it's running on a virtualized Win2k Pro box
with a parallel port dongle on an ESX3.5 box

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 17:10, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 Can anyone make a reco, I have several old seats I need to upgrade and
 consolidate into one app version so all the labels are compat.

 The newest I have is Teklynx I think, is that good stuff? Worth to go
 forward with?

 Thanks!
 jlc

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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread David Mazzaccaro

165 users in 9 locations.
I agree with Roger on his comments.

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

We have 250 VIPRE clients in 7 locations.  There are occasional minor
annoyances with VIPRE but it runs well and provides the best active
protection available.  We're up for renewal in a couple months and I'm
not looking to switch to another product.

Roger Wright
___

Life isn't like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapenos:
what you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com
wrote:

Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting
to think that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar
size environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

-- 
Stefan Jafs

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Powershell vs VBScript going forward

2010-10-19 Thread Don Kuhlman

Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth 
reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn 
Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?

My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched Powershell.  
So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then learn 
powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning powershell to 
enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows platforms from XP on up?

Thanks

Don Kuhlman


  
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RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

I wouldn't recommend spending any time on vbscript.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth 
reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn 
Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?

My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched Powershell.  
So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then learn 
powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning powershell to 
enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows platforms from XP on up?

Thanks

Don Kuhlman




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RE: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware

+1000 on Bartender.

We were running Bartender Enterprise version 6.20, and it was GREAT. The only 
reason we dumped it was because %management% wasn't willing to spend the money 
to upgrade it and our primary application didn't export the data very well, so 
we are transitioning to the primary application's integrated label printing 
function (which is less than abysmal, but it is free).

I spoke with Seagull Scientific tech support a couple of months ago, and my 
understanding is that they have done away with the need for a physical dongle, 
and that printing across a network is fully supported now. It really is a 
powerful piece of software. We ran it for close to 10 years across 12 locations 
with 26 Zebra label printers and I can count on one hand the number of times 
we've had to call tech support.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/


From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware

My previous employer also used ancient version of BarTender with Zebra 
printers.  Solid, and did everything they needed, even if the interface wasn't 
too up to date.


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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
$WORK uses Zebra printers with Seagull Software's Bartender software,
mostly for serializing parts, but for some other things as well.

Seems to work well, but I have a project ahead of me at some point to
get it upgraded from a roughly 10 year old version to something
current, especially since it's running on a virtualized Win2k Pro box
with a parallel port dongle on an ESX3.5 box

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 17:10, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 Can anyone make a reco, I have several old seats I need to upgrade and
 consolidate into one app version so all the labels are compat.



 The newest I have is Teklynx I think, is that good stuff? Worth to go
 forward with?



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SQL Query question

2010-10-19 Thread Bob Fronk

Good morning list!

I am by no means a SQL expert and especially not a query expert.  However, I 
have been asked to review a problem that I believe has something to do with 
changing from SQL 2005 to SQL 2008R2.

Brief background:

The accounting system is industry specific and backend is SQL.  Recent version 
upgrade required conversion to SQL 2008.  A new SQL install to new hardware and 
all data migrated.

Since the conversion, Excel queries of tables in the SQL database create 
substantially larger files than before.  In one instance a query of same 
table(s) went from 3300kb to 131500kb.  The data is the same, the queried 
tables are the same, but somehow the Excel file is much larger.  When comparing 
a previous Excel file with a new one, the rows and columns are the same, the 
data is substantially the same.  The users are using a data connector from 
Excel to access the tables an import the data.  This process didn't change.

Any DBAs out there have input?

BF



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RE: SQL Query question

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Schaefer

If the application has changed, are you sure that the underlying tables haven't 
changed? If the tables have changed, and Excel is pulling in all data from the 
relevant tables, it may be possible that the tables have additional columns 
now, and this is resulting in increased size.

Alternatively, if you can recreate the previous environment from a backup, then 
use SQL Profiler to see what queries are being run before/after and what data 
sets are being returned.

Cheers
Ken

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 11:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SQL Query question

Good morning list!

I am by no means a SQL expert and especially not a query expert.  However, I 
have been asked to review a problem that I believe has something to do with 
changing from SQL 2005 to SQL 2008R2.

Brief background:

The accounting system is industry specific and backend is SQL.  Recent version 
upgrade required conversion to SQL 2008.  A new SQL install to new hardware and 
all data migrated.

Since the conversion, Excel queries of tables in the SQL database create 
substantially larger files than before.  In one instance a query of same 
table(s) went from 3300kb to 131500kb.  The data is the same, the queried 
tables are the same, but somehow the Excel file is much larger.  When comparing 
a previous Excel file with a new one, the rows and columns are the same, the 
data is substantially the same.  The users are using a data connector from 
Excel to access the tables an import the data.  This process didn't change.

Any DBAs out there have input?

BF



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2010-10-19 Thread John Cook

Anyone familiar with this product?
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RE: SQL Query question

2010-10-19 Thread Bob Fronk

Recreating the previous environment isn't possible due to licensing, etc.  I 
could potentially create a SQL 2005 box and mount the old database, but this 
isn't my first choice for many reasons.

It is quite possible that available data in the tables goes back further, but 
the queries are only looking at specific periods, so this part isn't any 
Larger than before. ( Example:  Pulling AR data from a table for the current 
month. )  Are you saying that ALL the data from the table is pulled into Excel, 
but only the requested data is displayed?  Where would the hidden data be?

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SQL Query question

If the application has changed, are you sure that the underlying tables haven't 
changed? If the tables have changed, and Excel is pulling in all data from the 
relevant tables, it may be possible that the tables have additional columns 
now, and this is resulting in increased size.

Alternatively, if you can recreate the previous environment from a backup, then 
use SQL Profiler to see what queries are being run before/after and what data 
sets are being returned.

Cheers
Ken

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 11:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SQL Query question

Good morning list!

I am by no means a SQL expert and especially not a query expert.  However, I 
have been asked to review a problem that I believe has something to do with 
changing from SQL 2005 to SQL 2008R2.

Brief background:

The accounting system is industry specific and backend is SQL.  Recent version 
upgrade required conversion to SQL 2008.  A new SQL install to new hardware and 
all data migrated.

Since the conversion, Excel queries of tables in the SQL database create 
substantially larger files than before.  In one instance a query of same 
table(s) went from 3300kb to 131500kb.  The data is the same, the queried 
tables are the same, but somehow the Excel file is much larger.  When comparing 
a previous Excel file with a new one, the rows and columns are the same, the 
data is substantially the same.  The users are using a data connector from 
Excel to access the tables an import the data.  This process didn't change.

Any DBAs out there have input?

BF



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Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  I wouldn’t recommend spending any time on vbscript.



 Regards,



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 *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:39 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Powershell vs VBScript going forward



 Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth
 reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn
 Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?



 My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched
 Powershell.  So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then
 learn powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning
 powershell to enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows
 platforms from XP on up?


 Thanks


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Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

2010-10-19 Thread Carl Webster

My personal opiion is to run away from VBScript and move to PowerShell.  In
my world, Citrix is moving to PowerShell for all management.  XenDesktop 5
is based on PowerShell.  XenApp 6 can be managed via PowerShell (and Group
Policy).  I bought the two PowerShell 2.0 books that MBS recommended and now
just need to find the time to get started with PS2.0.

Webster

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's
 worth reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to
 learn Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up
 ?

 My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched
 Powershell.  So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then
 learn powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning
 powershell to enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows
 platforms from XP on up?


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RE: SQL Query question

Ken is much more knowledgeable about SQL than I, but I think you may be running 
into a change between simple data and fully described/decorated data. I 
don't have access to my lab right now, but you might take a look at the export 
format you chose.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
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From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SQL Query question

Recreating the previous environment isn't possible due to licensing, etc.  I 
could potentially create a SQL 2005 box and mount the old database, but this 
isn't my first choice for many reasons.

It is quite possible that available data in the tables goes back further, but 
the queries are only looking at specific periods, so this part isn't any 
Larger than before. ( Example:  Pulling AR data from a table for the current 
month. )  Are you saying that ALL the data from the table is pulled into Excel, 
but only the requested data is displayed?  Where would the hidden data be?

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SQL Query question

If the application has changed, are you sure that the underlying tables haven't 
changed? If the tables have changed, and Excel is pulling in all data from the 
relevant tables, it may be possible that the tables have additional columns 
now, and this is resulting in increased size.

Alternatively, if you can recreate the previous environment from a backup, then 
use SQL Profiler to see what queries are being run before/after and what data 
sets are being returned.

Cheers
Ken

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 11:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SQL Query question

Good morning list!

I am by no means a SQL expert and especially not a query expert.  However, I 
have been asked to review a problem that I believe has something to do with 
changing from SQL 2005 to SQL 2008R2.

Brief background:

The accounting system is industry specific and backend is SQL.  Recent version 
upgrade required conversion to SQL 2008.  A new SQL install to new hardware and 
all data migrated.

Since the conversion, Excel queries of tables in the SQL database create 
substantially larger files than before.  In one instance a query of same 
table(s) went from 3300kb to 131500kb.  The data is the same, the queried 
tables are the same, but somehow the Excel file is much larger.  When comparing 
a previous Excel file with a new one, the rows and columns are the same, the 
data is substantially the same.  The users are using a data connector from 
Excel to access the tables an import the data.  This process didn't change.

Any DBAs out there have input?

BF



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RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

2010-10-19 Thread John Leto

+1

Also all new versions of Exchange and SQL are migrating towards
Powershell as well. 

From: Carl Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

My personal opiion is to run away from VBScript and move to PowerShell.
In my world, Citrix is moving to PowerShell for all management.
XenDesktop 5 is based on PowerShell.  XenApp 6 can be managed via
PowerShell (and Group Policy).  I bought the two PowerShell 2.0 books
that MBS recommended and now just need to find the time to get started
with PS2.0.

Webster

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's
worth reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better
to learn Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from
XP up ?

My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched
Powershell.  So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and
then learn powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time
learning powershell to enable yourself to do routine support work on
Windows platforms from XP on up?

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RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

I'd tend to agree at this point although at least from my perspective I'm not 
going to stop my investment in my existing VBScript solutions nor am I going to 
rewrite them in PowerShell.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

I wouldn't recommend spending any time on vbscript.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth 
reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn 
Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?

My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched Powershell.  
So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then learn 
powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning powershell to 
enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows platforms from XP on up?

Thanks

Don Kuhlman




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Re: SQL Query question

Perhaps the data is Unicode?  (although that doesn't seem like it would be
*that* large of a difference)

Is it possible for you to run a new report which contains the same data as
one of your old reports and export both from Excel to CSV to determine if
the data is in fact identical?

It could be something about how the data is being formatted in Excel.


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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Bob Fronk b...@btrfronk.com wrote:

 Recreating the previous environment isn’t possible due to licensing, etc.
 I could potentially create a SQL 2005 box and mount the old database, but
 this isn’t my first choice for many reasons.



 It is quite possible that available data in the tables goes back further,
 but the queries are only looking at specific periods, so this part isn’t any
 “Larger” than before. ( Example:  Pulling AR data from a table for the
 current month. )  Are you saying that ALL the data from the table is pulled
 into Excel, but only the requested data is displayed?  Where would the
 “hidden” data be?



 *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:02 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: SQL Query question



 If the application has changed, are you sure that the underlying tables
 haven’t changed? If the tables have changed, and Excel is pulling in all
 data from the relevant tables, it may be possible that the tables have
 additional columns now, and this is resulting in increased size.



 Alternatively, if you can recreate the previous environment from a backup,
 then use SQL Profiler to see what queries are being run before/after and
 what data sets are being returned.



 Cheers

 Ken



 *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 11:57 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* SQL Query question



 Good morning list!



 I am by no means a SQL expert and especially not a query expert.  However,
 I have been asked to review a problem that I believe has something to do
 with changing from SQL 2005 to SQL 2008R2.



 Brief background:



 The accounting system is industry specific and backend is SQL.  Recent
 version upgrade required conversion to SQL 2008.  A new SQL install to new
 hardware and all data migrated.



 Since the conversion, Excel queries of tables in the SQL database create
 substantially larger files than before.  In one instance a query of same
 table(s) went from 3300kb to 131500kb.  The data is the same, the queried
 tables are the same, but somehow the Excel file is much larger.  When
 comparing a previous Excel file with a new one, the rows and columns are the
 same, the data is substantially the same.  The users are using a data
 connector from Excel to access the tables an import the data.  This process
 didn’t change.



 Any DBAs out there have input?



 BF



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Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

True.  If you have a substantial investment in VBScript, I wouldn't ditch
it.  It is still very useful and supported.

But if you're starting out...


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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote:

 *I’d tend to agree at this point although at least from my perspective I’m
 not going to stop my investment in my existing VBScript solutions nor am I
 going to rewrite them in PowerShell. *

 * *

 *Thanks,*

 *Brian Desmond*

 *br...@briandesmond.com*

 * *

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 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:42 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward



 I wouldn’t recommend spending any time on vbscript.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:39 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Powershell vs VBScript going forward



 Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth
 reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn
 Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?



 My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched
 Powershell.  So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then
 learn powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning
 powershell to enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows
 platforms from XP on up?


 Thanks


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RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

Define close proximity. You may have too many APs for the area you're trying 
to cover, depending on how many clients you're trying to serve.

How close (or far) they should be is determined by many factors, including SNR, 
RSSI, power level of each AP, number of clients attempting to connect per AP, 
etc. Building design and layout will impact your signal levels (and thus, your 
AP density) quite a bit.

As a frame of reference, I have included my AP breakdown per facility for a 
handful of facilities, along with the square footage per facility. We're using 
Cisco 1142 Light-Weight APs, almost pure 802.11n for all of our clients (a few 
are using 802.11g), and our WLAN is designed to voice specification. Our 
coverage is phenomenal, and we have almost zero wireless issues.

Facility #1, 7 APs, 10,600 sf
Facility #2, 5 APs, 6,901 sf
Facility #3, 6 APs, 15,300 sf
Facility # 4, 8 APs, 14,610 sf (three different sites in one space, makes for a 
funky design)
Facility # 5, 11 APs, 19,877 sf (misleading, because this covers two floors, 
with a lot of unused space on second floor)
Facility # 6, 6 APs, 8,037 sf

My experience is roughly 1 AP per 1500 to 2500 sq feet of coverage needed, 
depending on building design and other considerations. When rough budgeting, I 
budget for one AP to every 1,000 to 1,200 square feet, because you never know 
what you're going to run into. In two of our facilities, the building was added 
on to at some point in the past, so there is a two foot thick mortar, block, 
brick, and steel wall running through various parts of the office. This one 
factor significantly increased our costs and altered our design. I don't budget 
based on users, because my user density is not very high, and I know my users 
per AP will almost always be 5 or less.

A formal site survey will give you much more accurate AP counts for budgeting 
purposes.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
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-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

The theory behind auto seems good... Listen for a channel that's not noisy, 
then use it. But I get what you're saying--there may not be interference on a 
particular channel when the WAP boots, but that doesn't mean there won't be 
later.

The trouble is that we have 4 WAPs in close proximity. If I should only use 
those 3 channels, what's my best approach?


-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

We just had a Cisco site survey done for our wireless and he said never set 
them to auto for the channel.

Plot the waps on a map and manually configure the channels to 1 6 or 11 for 
minimum overlap. IE, waps on the same channel need to be separated to prevent 
interference.  We had previously had ours set to auto and following his advise 
helped quite a bit.

His explanation is that, when configured for auto, the wap listens when it 
boots and selects the least busy channel.

That may be good at boot time but could change significantly later on.

Also, if a wap chooses any channel other than 1, 6 or 11, it can cause 
interference with on other channels.

With these 3 channels selected, you get 3 non-overlapping channels.

Any other channel will overlap with 2 of the above.




From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The computers 
are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year we didn't 
have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the WAPs that 
serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in that area of 
the building.

So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between 
Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in 
the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the building 
that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers-but no problems. So 
that left the latter possibility-lots of WAPs stepping on one another's toes-as 
the prime culprit.

The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I changed 
the ones in the area that was having the problem to auto, but that didn't 
seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to g rather 
than b/g/n. As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and I will be 
watching throughout the week, and if things are still working after a few days 
we'll

RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

Completely agree. I have a pretty substantial investment in VBScripts so 
they're not going anywhere here.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

True.  If you have a substantial investment in VBScript, I wouldn't ditch it.  
It is still very useful and supported.

But if you're starting out...



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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Brian Desmond 
br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com wrote:
I'd tend to agree at this point although at least from my perspective I'm not 
going to stop my investment in my existing VBScript solutions nor am I going to 
rewrite them in PowerShell.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:42 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

I wouldn't recommend spending any time on vbscript.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.commailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:39 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth 
reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn 
Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?

My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched Powershell.  
So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then learn 
powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning powershell to 
enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows platforms from XP on up?

Thanks

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Re: Digium VoIP

2010-10-19 Thread Matthew W. Ross

Digium is the comercial company behind the open source Asterisk software. I 
believe they make most of their money selling the hardware and support, but if 
you're interested in trying a free/open source voip solution, they are one of 
the main players in that field.

Of the various open standard telephony (T1, ISDN, FXO and FXS, etc) card 
vendors, it is generally known that the Digium cards are some of the best.

Other free VOIP software developers include Freeswitch and 3CX.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

Oh, I've got a bunch too.

And except for the ones I HAD to rewrite (Exchange provisioning scripts), I 
haven't rewritten them. But I haven't written any new vbscript in a couple of 
years, either.

Regards,

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From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

Completely agree. I have a pretty substantial investment in VBScripts so 
they're not going anywhere here.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

True.  If you have a substantial investment in VBScript, I wouldn't ditch it.  
It is still very useful and supported.

But if you're starting out...



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I'd tend to agree at this point although at least from my perspective I'm not 
going to stop my investment in my existing VBScript solutions nor am I going to 
rewrite them in PowerShell.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:42 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

I wouldn't recommend spending any time on vbscript.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.commailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:39 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth 
reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn 
Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?

My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched Powershell.  
So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then learn 
powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning powershell to 
enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows platforms from XP on up?

Thanks

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Re: ESET vs VIPRE

What is your reason for wanting to change?

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 Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
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RE: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

I'm finding that 2 - 4 am is very quiet in my household.

Regards,

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From: Carl Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

My personal opiion is to run away from VBScript and move to PowerShell.  In my 
world, Citrix is moving to PowerShell for all management.  XenDesktop 5 is 
based on PowerShell.  XenApp 6 can be managed via PowerShell (and Group 
Policy).  I bought the two PowerShell 2.0 books that MBS recommended and now 
just need to find the time to get started with PS2.0.

Webster
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Don Kuhlman 
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reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn 
Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?

My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched Powershell.  
So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then learn 
powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning powershell to 
enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows platforms from XP on up?

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partition recovery after attempted XP install

I have a friend who attempted to install XP on a new larger hard drive on his 
Sony Vaio (yuck, but I digress) and ran into failures after 3 attempts, so he 
called me. I get to his house and notice that his external Seagate hdd is still 
attached via USB. I disconnected it and the install worked like a champ. It 
turns out that the system detected his external USB drive as a bootable device 
and attempted to install XP multiple times with a 30 Gig primary partition and 
a 470 Gig secondary.

So, all the data he had on this external drive is lost. He does have backups of 
some of the data, but do any of you know of any tools (preferably free, as he 
doesn't want to spend any $ if he doesn't have to) that would possibly be able 
to recover the data? I know it is a long shot...

Presently the space on the drive is listed as unallocated in Disk Management.

I tried http://easeus.com/partition-recovery/ and it did find the partitions 
that the Sony recovery disks created, but nothing else...

Any other advice before I format and tell him he's out of luck?

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2010-10-19 Thread Stu Sjouwerman

  * Take new ITIC/GFI Survey - win a free iPad or iPod!

We'd like to invite you to participate in the latest joint ITIC/GFI survey
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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread Stu Sjouwerman

  * Tests Show Consumer Antivirus Programs Falling Behind

VIPRE however shines, comes out fifth, and beats out MSE, Panda, Norton,
Kaspersky and ESET. NSS Labs tested 11 consumer security suites and
found that the products are less effective than a year ago as far as
blocking the download and execution of malicious software programs.
The company also tested if those programs detected and blocked malicious
Web sites.

In its tests, the company used new malicious Web sites within minutes
of discovery in addition to brand-new malware, which it contends is
indicative of the conditions that users would find while browsing the
Internet. ComputerWorld has the story:
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From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
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To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESET vs VIPRE

Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think that 
VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size environment and 
do you guys think it's up to the job?

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Re: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

+ a billion. There are many oddities to be had because of channel
auto-selection, especially depending on the frequency it performs the
congestion check. Like servers, hard code it and deal with connectivity
issues as they come.

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

**headdesk**

IMO…never set your APs to Auto. Spend the time, or the money, or both, for
a decent site survey. Use only channels 1, 6, 11, and lay your APs out so
that the APs on the same channels are not close to each other, because too
much signal overlap on the same channel will cause RF collision.

Once setup, review periodically (quarterly, semi-annually, annually, etc)
to make sure no one has added any wireless in the area that would interfere
(or use the utilities built in if you have something like Cisco Wireless
Control System with centralized controllers). Keep in mind that RF noise is
additive. Any NON 802.11 RF signal will be considered noise, and the more
there is, the more it will work against your 802.11 equipment - decreasing
the signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) and increasing the chances of wireless data
traffic corruption.

Side note: There are enough channels in the 802.11a spectrum (5GHz) that
channel plans are not usually necessary.

Furthermore…..Anyone dealing with wireless networks need to understand SNR
(Signal to Noise Ratio) and how it impacts wireless performance. It’s like
trying to talk with another adult in the same room when you have a couple of
chatty children in the same room. You can carry on a conversation with
another adult across the room, but if you double the number of children, you
have to raise your voice. Add enough children, and no matter how loudly you
shout, the other adult will never hear you, and vice versa…

Here’s a link that does a good job of explaining it and provides some
guidelines:

wi-fiplanet.com - How to: Define Minimum SNR Values for Signal
Coveragehttp://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3743986/How-to-Define-Minimum-SNR-Values-for-Signal-Coverage.htm

Hope this helps.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
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Eagle Physicians Associates, PA*
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*From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.

I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The
computers are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year
we didn’t have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the
WAPs that serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in
that area of the building.

So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between
Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in
the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the
building that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers—but no
problems. So that left the latter possibility—lots of WAPs stepping on one
another’s toes—as the prime culprit.

The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I
changed the ones in the area that was having the problem to “auto,” but that
didn’t seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to
“g” rather than “b/g/n.” As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and
I will be watching throughout the week, and if things are still working
after a few days we’ll consider the issue resolved.

John

*From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
*Subject:* Group Policy Problems Over Wireless

Short version:

*Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the
network wirelessly?*

Long version:

We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista
OS, connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.

I’m trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group
Policy. I have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain
group, the software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on
one of the machines—on all the rest, the software isn’t being deployed.

So I connect to any of the machines that didn’t get the software, and run
gpresult. It doesn’t show me that those machines are members of the group
that gets the software. But I know they are; I’ve confirmed in ADUC on the
DC. They’re just not picking up group membership.

Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see
things that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior
to the wireless network being initialized. Things like:

Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service

Scan software

2010-10-19 Thread Joseph L. Casale

We have some Canon BW iR's that use Network Scangear and install twain driver.
Since Office 2010 did away with the scanning component, even after install NSG 
windows 7 scan app doesn't work with our machines.
Anyone know a free/opensource app that can simply scan, no ocr with these 
canons?

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: OT: I Thought Just The Toys Were Plastic

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Boeck

no aging burger? no surprise here! don't tell me, you've never eaten days
old pizza?
.
.
.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com wrote:

I read about an experiment like that in Morgan Spurlock's book. The one who
made supersize me.
Also there the hamburger stayed the same for a looong time. I think it was
even a year or more.

Yes, I remember now there were 2 guys who would as a practical joke hide
food in each other's room which would of course start smelling bad.
Then once he left a burger there and didn't hear from his friend and forgot
about it.
He left the company and then a few months later the friend called him if he
had been in the office the day before because he found the burger.
He was very surprised of course there was no smell and that it still looked
good.

Then he started collecting a burger each year and apparently had some for
several years.

Wonder if it would it prevent me from aging as well? The fountain of
youth... :)

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319562/McDonalds-Happy-Meal-bought-Sally-Davies-shows-sign-mould-6-months.html

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Re: ESET vs VIPRE

Stu,

Why is Vipre still not a part of the AV-Comparitives tests?

--
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Stu Sjouwerman
s...@sunbelt-software.comwrote:

* Tests Show Consumer Antivirus Programs Falling Behind

 VIPRE however shines, comes out fifth, and beats out MSE, Panda, Norton,
 Kaspersky and ESET. NSS Labs tested 11 consumer security suites and
 found that the products are less effective than a year ago as far as
 blocking the download and execution of malicious software programs.
 The company also tested if those programs detected and blocked malicious
 Web sites.

 In its tests, the company used new malicious Web sites within minutes
 of discovery in addition to brand-new malware, which it contends is
 indicative of the conditions that users would find while browsing the
 Internet. ComputerWorld has the story:

 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9191718/Tests_show_consumer_antivirus_programs_falling_behind
 ?

  --
 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:28 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* ESET vs VIPRE

 Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
 that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size
 environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

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Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

LOL


*-ASB*
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  I’m finding that 2 – 4 am is very quiet in my household.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Carl Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:11 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward



 My personal opiion is to run away from VBScript and move to PowerShell.  In
 my world, Citrix is moving to PowerShell for all management.  XenDesktop 5
 is based on PowerShell.  XenApp 6 can be managed via PowerShell (and Group
 Policy).  I bought the two PowerShell 2.0 books that MBS recommended and now
 just need to find the time to get started with PS2.0.



 Webster

 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth
 reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn
 Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?



 My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched
 Powershell.  So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then
 learn powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning
 powershell to enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows
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Re: partition recovery after attempted XP install

Recuva is one tool to check...


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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

  I have a friend who attempted to install XP on a new larger hard drive on
 his Sony Vaio (yuck, but I digress) and ran into failures after 3 attempts,
 so he called me. I get to his house and notice that his external Seagate hdd
 is still attached via USB. I disconnected it and the install worked like a
 champ. It turns out that the system detected his external USB drive as a
 bootable device and attempted to install XP multiple times with a 30 Gig
 primary partition and a 470 Gig secondary.



 So, all the data he had on this external drive is lost. He does have
 backups of some of the data, but do any of you know of any tools (preferably
 free, as he doesn’t want to spend any $ if he doesn’t have to) that would
 possibly be able to recover the data? I know it is a long shot…



 Presently the space on the drive is listed as unallocated in Disk
 Management.



 I tried http://easeus.com/partition-recovery/ and it did find the
 partitions that the Sony recovery disks created, but nothing else…



 Any other advice before I format and tell him he’s out of luck?

 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA*
 *jra...@eaglemds.com*
 *www.eaglemds.com




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RE: partition recovery after attempted XP install

I downloaded and installed that one, but it apparently has to detect a 
partition in order to search the drive...unless I'm missing something...


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: partition recovery after attempted XP install

Recuva is one tool to check...



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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I have a friend who attempted to install XP on a new larger hard drive on his 
Sony Vaio (yuck, but I digress) and ran into failures after 3 attempts, so he 
called me. I get to his house and notice that his external Seagate hdd is still 
attached via USB. I disconnected it and the install worked like a champ. It 
turns out that the system detected his external USB drive as a bootable device 
and attempted to install XP multiple times with a 30 Gig primary partition and 
a 470 Gig secondary.

So, all the data he had on this external drive is lost. He does have backups of 
some of the data, but do any of you know of any tools (preferably free, as he 
doesn't want to spend any $ if he doesn't have to) that would possibly be able 
to recover the data? I know it is a long shot...

Presently the space on the drive is listed as unallocated in Disk Management.

I tried http://easeus.com/partition-recovery/ and it did find the partitions 
that the Sony recovery disks created, but nothing else...

Any other advice before I format and tell him he's out of luck?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com



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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Blair

What are the minor annoyances you run into. I am in the middle of an eval, and 
so far, so good.


Thanks,
Chris


From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

We have 250 VIPRE clients in 7 locations.  There are occasional minor 
annoyances with VIPRE but it runs well and provides the best active protection 
available.  We're up for renewal in a couple months and I'm not looking to 
switch to another product.


Roger Wright
___
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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.



On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Jafs 
stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think that 
VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size environment and 
do you guys think it's up to the job?

--
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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

We have been doing private tests with AV-Comparatives for some time now.  They 
have a bit of an odd setup (understatement) and it does take some work.

I do hope to have a public test in the coming months.  They also have a rather 
odd testing schedule.


Alex



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

Stu,

Why is Vipre still not a part of the AV-Comparitives tests?

--
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Stu Sjouwerman 
s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote:
  * Tests Show Consumer Antivirus Programs Falling Behind

VIPRE however shines, comes out fifth, and beats out MSE, Panda, Norton,
Kaspersky and ESET. NSS Labs tested 11 consumer security suites and
found that the products are less effective than a year ago as far as
blocking the download and execution of malicious software programs.
The company also tested if those programs detected and blocked malicious
Web sites.

In its tests, the company used new malicious Web sites within minutes
of discovery in addition to brand-new malware, which it contends is
indicative of the conditions that users would find while browsing the
Internet. ComputerWorld has the story:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9191718/Tests_show_consumer_antivirus_programs_falling_behind?


From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:28 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESET vs VIPRE
Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think that 
VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size environment and 
do you guys think it's up to the job?

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Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
(the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.






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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread David Florea

Alex - the last couple of questions I've emailed to support weren't even
answered - is the supp...@sunbelt address not valid anymore, and what is the
correct addy?  Thanks!

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESET vs VIPRE

We have been doing private tests with AV-Comparatives for some time now.
They have a bit of an odd setup (understatement) and it does take some work.

I do hope to have a public test in the coming months.  They also have a
rather odd testing schedule. 

Alex

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

Stu,

Why is Vipre still not a part of the AV-Comparitives tests?

--
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1e=5959 

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com
wrote:

  * Tests Show Consumer Antivirus Programs Falling Behind

VIPRE however shines, comes out fifth, and beats out MSE, Panda, Norton, 
Kaspersky and ESET. NSS Labs tested 11 consumer security suites and 
found that the products are less effective than a year ago as far as 
blocking the download and execution of malicious software programs. 
The company also tested if those programs detected and blocked malicious 
Web sites.

In its tests, the company used new malicious Web sites within minutes 
of discovery in addition to brand-new malware, which it contends is 
indicative of the conditions that users would find while browsing the 
Internet. ComputerWorld has the story:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9191718/Tests_show_consumer_antivirus
_programs_falling_behind?

  _  

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:28 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: ESET vs VIPRE

Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size
environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

-- 
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Re: ESET vs VIPRE

Little things...

Occasionally the connection to the SQL database drops and reconnects within
a few seconds.  We might go a couple days without this happening then it'll
occur 2-3 times in one day.  It doesn't cause a problem for us, just a
couple emails indicating the dropped and restored connection.  So far
support hasn't been able to nail this down.

A few machines had issues with the recent agent upgrade.  I had to manually
remove and reinstall VIPRE on 3 or 4.  An annoyance but relatively minor.

Most of our boxes are newer HPs with 2-4 GB RAM.  Users still whine when
weekly deep scan takes place.  It does slow the machines down a bit but the
scan is definitely faster than the previous product - MS Forefront.  As we
replace boxes I'm looking at moving the deep scan to evening hours when
their not in use.

I'm irritated that the installation of remote update servers want to install
SQL Server Express even though they don't need a database to hand out
definition updates.

Overall, though, I'm satisfied with the level of protection, and also with
the ease of deployment and management.


Roger Wright
___

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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.




On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chris Blair chris_bl...@identisys.comwrote:

  What are the minor annoyances you run into. I am in the middle of an
 eval, and so far, so good.





 Thanks,

 Chris





 *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:27 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: ESET vs VIPRE



 We have 250 VIPRE clients in 7 locations.  There are occasional minor
 annoyances with VIPRE but it runs well and provides the best active
 protection available.  We're up for renewal in a couple months and I'm not
 looking to switch to another product.


 Roger Wright
 ___

 Life isn't like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapenos:
 what you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.




  On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
 that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size
 environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

 --
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RE: partition recovery after attempted XP install

2010-10-19 Thread Sam Cayze

Your MBR (Master Boot Record) is junked.  Fix that, and all your files
might automagically appear.  Or, you still might need to run recuvia.

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: partition recovery after attempted XP install

I downloaded and installed that one, but it apparently has to detect a
partition in order to search the drive...unless I'm missing something...

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
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www.eaglemds.com BLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/  

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: partition recovery after attempted XP install

Recuva is one tool to check...

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

I have a friend who attempted to install XP on a new larger hard drive
on his Sony Vaio (yuck, but I digress) and ran into failures after 3
attempts, so he called me. I get to his house and notice that his
external Seagate hdd is still attached via USB. I disconnected it and
the install worked like a champ. It turns out that the system detected
his external USB drive as a bootable device and attempted to install XP
multiple times with a 30 Gig primary partition and a 470 Gig secondary.

So, all the data he had on this external drive is lost. He does have
backups of some of the data, but do any of you know of any tools
(preferably free, as he doesn't want to spend any $ if he doesn't have
to) that would possibly be able to recover the data? I know it is a long
shot...

Presently the space on the drive is listed as unallocated in Disk
Management.

I tried http://easeus.com/partition-recovery/ and it did find the
partitions that the Sony recovery disks created, but nothing else...

Any other advice before I format and tell him he's out of luck?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
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Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

+1

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ME2


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  I wouldn’t recommend spending any time on vbscript.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:39 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Powershell vs VBScript going forward



 Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth
 reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to learn
 Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?



 My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched
 Powershell.  So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then
 learn powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning
 powershell to enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows
 platforms from XP on up?


 Thanks


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RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

2010-10-19 Thread Bob Fronk

http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SRC

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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000 
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until 
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have 
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third (the 
original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3, however he 
has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My question is, since 
SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages sticking in the Outbox on 
Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003 be conflicting some how? Since 
I *just* finished upgrading the other two machines to SP3, I don't know if it 
fixed the problem on them yet or not.

All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.

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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread David Mazzaccaro

 YUP   A few machines had issues with the recent agent upgrade.  I had
to manually remove and reinstall VIPRE on 3 or 4.  An annoyance but
relatively minor.


 YUP   I'm irritated that the installation of remote update servers
want to install SQL Server Express even though they don't need a
database to hand out definition updates.


 YUP  Overall, though, I'm satisfied with the level of protection, and
also with the ease of deployment and management. 

I'll add that a few definition updates wrecked havoc: The notorious
switch to 5000 version defs, the July '09 false positives on laptops,
the 5486 definition file renaming cluster #?^
And just the overall massive size of the definition updates.
 
If you have remote offices, you'll likely want to set up remote update
servers.  The documentation on this is poor, but not awful.
For example, remote update servers require port 1434 to be open... but
if you search the knowledgebase on sunbeltsoftware.com for 1434... you
get nothing.
 
 


 
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chris Blair chris_bl...@identisys.com
wrote:


What are the minor annoyances you run into. I am in the middle
of an eval, and so far, so good. 

 

 

Thanks,

Chris

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:27 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE



 

We have 250 VIPRE clients in 7 locations.  There are occasional
minor annoyances with VIPRE but it runs well and provides the best
active protection available.  We're up for renewal in a couple months
and I'm not looking to switch to another product.


Roger Wright
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jalapenos: what you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.






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Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting
to think that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar
size environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

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RE: partition recovery after attempted XP install

Awhile back a friend of mine wrote a pair of utilities for this sort of
thing... PartFind and PartBuild. Both are available at
www.magelair.com/downloads.html. Both are freeware and last time I asked,
didn't care a thing what version of Windows they are running on. Maybe one
or both of those would help? Dunno, but it's worth a shot. :-)



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: partition recovery after attempted XP install

Your MBR (Master Boot Record) is junked.  Fix that, and all your files might
automagically appear.  Or, you still might need to run recuvia.

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: partition recovery after attempted XP install

I downloaded and installed that one, but it apparently has to detect a
partition in order to search the driveunless Im missing something

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: partition recovery after attempted XP install

Recuva is one tool to check...


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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I have a friend who attempted to install XP on a new larger hard drive on
his Sony Vaio (yuck, but I digress) and ran into failures after 3 attempts,
so he called me. I get to his house and notice that his external Seagate hdd
is still attached via USB. I disconnected it and the install worked like a
champ. It turns out that the system detected his external USB drive as a
bootable device and attempted to install XP multiple times with a 30 Gig
primary partition and a 470 Gig secondary.
 
So, all the data he had on this external drive is lost. He does have backups
of some of the data, but do any of you know of any tools (preferably free,
as he doesnt want to spend any $ if he doesnt have to) that would possibly
be able to recover the data? I know it is a long shot
 
Presently the space on the drive is listed as unallocated in Disk
Management.
 
I tried http://easeus.com/partition-recovery/ and it did find the partitions
that the Sony recovery disks created, but nothing else
 
Any other advice before I format and tell him hes out of luck?
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 
 

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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

All good feedback... I sent this along to the devs.

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESET vs VIPRE

 YUP   A few machines had issues with the recent agent upgrade.  I had to 
manually remove and reinstall VIPRE on 3 or 4.  An annoyance but relatively 
minor.

 YUP   I'm irritated that the installation of remote update servers want to 
install SQL Server Express even though they don't need a database to hand out 
definition updates.

 YUP  Overall, though, I'm satisfied with the level of protection, and also 
with the ease of deployment and management.

I'll add that a few definition updates wrecked havoc: The notorious switch to 
5000 version defs, the July '09 false positives on laptops, the 5486 definition 
file renaming cluster #?^
And just the overall massive size of the definition updates.

If you have remote offices, you'll likely want to set up remote update servers. 
 The documentation on this is poor, but not awful.
For example, remote update servers require port 1434 to be open... but if you 
search the knowledgebase on sunbeltsoftware.com for 1434... you get nothing.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chris Blair 
chris_bl...@identisys.commailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com wrote:
What are the minor annoyances you run into. I am in the middle of an eval, and 
so far, so good.

Thanks,
Chris

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:27 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

We have 250 VIPRE clients in 7 locations.  There are occasional minor 
annoyances with VIPRE but it runs well and provides the best active protection 
available.  We're up for renewal in a couple months and I'm not looking to 
switch to another product.

Roger Wright
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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Jafs 
stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think that 
VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size environment and 
do you guys think it's up to the job?

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RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Thanks, but most of those assume the messages are not being sent, when in
fact they are being sent, just the blank message stays around in the
outbox, sometimes with a recipient.




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From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SR
C





-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
(the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.






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Re: partition recovery after attempted XP install

2010-10-19 Thread Tony Patton

TestDisk, I think the app is called, its on the UBCD4win cd.

I've used it in the past after messing partitions up, but not with usb so
ymmv.

T

typed slowly on HTC Desire
On 19 Oct 2010 17:50, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
 I have a friend who attempted to install XP on a new larger hard drive on
his Sony Vaio (yuck, but I digress) and ran into failures after 3 attempts,
so he called me. I get to his house and notice that his external Seagate hdd
is still attached via USB. I disconnected it and the install worked like a
champ. It turns out that the system detected his external USB drive as a
bootable device and attempted to install XP multiple times with a 30 Gig
primary partition and a 470 Gig secondary.

 So, all the data he had on this external drive is lost. He does have
backups of some of the data, but do any of you know of any tools (preferably
free, as he doesn't want to spend any $ if he doesn't have to) that would
possibly be able to recover the data? I know it is a long shot...

 Presently the space on the drive is listed as unallocated in Disk
Management.

 I tried http://easeus.com/partition-recovery/ and it did find the
partitions that the Sony recovery disks created, but nothing else...

 Any other advice before I format and tell him he's out of luck?

 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

David,

Support has gone to a web form.  The problem with the email address is that a 
lot gets dropped and mis-managed due to the volume of emails.  Putting it on a 
web form is a bit of a PITA for some, but it really does improve the response 
times and tracking of a ticket.

The form is here:

http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/SupportForm/


(I am working on making it more streamlined.)



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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESET vs VIPRE

Alex - the last couple of questions I've emailed to support weren't even 
answered - is the supp...@sunbelt address not valid anymore, and what is the 
correct addy?  Thanks!

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESET vs VIPRE

We have been doing private tests with AV-Comparatives for some time now.  They 
have a bit of an odd setup (understatement) and it does take some work.

I do hope to have a public test in the coming months.  They also have a rather 
odd testing schedule.


Alex



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

Stu,

Why is Vipre still not a part of the AV-Comparitives tests?

--
ME2


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Stu Sjouwerman 
s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote:
  * Tests Show Consumer Antivirus Programs Falling Behind

VIPRE however shines, comes out fifth, and beats out MSE, Panda, Norton,
Kaspersky and ESET. NSS Labs tested 11 consumer security suites and
found that the products are less effective than a year ago as far as
blocking the download and execution of malicious software programs.
The company also tested if those programs detected and blocked malicious
Web sites.

In its tests, the company used new malicious Web sites within minutes
of discovery in addition to brand-new malware, which it contends is
indicative of the conditions that users would find while browsing the
Internet. ComputerWorld has the story:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9191718/Tests_show_consumer_antivirus_programs_falling_behind?


From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:28 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESET vs VIPRE
Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think that 
VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size environment and 
do you guys think it's up to the job?

--
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Re: Powershell vs VBScript going forward

2010-10-19 Thread Tony Patton

I'd recommend learning powershell, even though I haven't gotten round to it
myself, still in vb land.

I'll got round to it real soon someday :)

T

typed slowly on HTC Desire
On 19 Oct 2010 16:39, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi folks. I had a question for the group about whether you feel it's worth

 reviewing and refreshing a skillset using VBScript or is it better to
learn
 Powershell for Windows maintenance and support work on OSs from XP up ?

 My vbscript is rusty to say the least and I haven't really touched
Powershell.
 So the question is would you brush up on your VBscript and then learn
 powershell, or just forget vbscript and spend the time learning powershell
to
 enable yourself to do routine support work on Windows platforms from XP on
up?

 Thanks

 Don Kuhlman



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RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

2010-10-19 Thread David Minich

I have seen this occasionally. Not sure what is the cause, but deleting it
and deleting from trash as well and clears it up.

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
(the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.

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RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok. Thanks. One thing I stumbled across was that sometimes antivirus
products will cause this, so I told Vipre to stop checking the email on
those machines. Maybe that'll fix it.




-Original Message-
From: David Minich [mailto:dmin...@datamovers.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

I have seen this occasionally. Not sure what is the cause, but deleting it
and deleting from trash as well and clears it up.

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
(the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.






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RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

2010-10-19 Thread Rod Trent

Any chance they have the LinkedIn Outlook add-on installed or some other
add-in that retrieves contact information from messages?  Are the messages
sitting in the Outbox not italicized like they are drafts or new messages?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Thanks, but most of those assume the messages are not being sent, when in
fact they are being sent, just the blank message stays around in the
outbox, sometimes with a recipient.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SR
C

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
(the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.

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Re: ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread Stefan Jafs

Lousy Tech Support, costly, don’t’ like that it tells me that Windows is not
up to date (I know that already), too complex, took down all my servers and
PC’s a few months ago with a bad definition, that’s some of the reasons.

SJ


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 What is your reason for wanting to change?

 --
 ME2



 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
 that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size
 environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

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Re: ESET vs VIPRE

2010-10-19 Thread Sean Martin

While we're having this Sunbelt QA:

Alex, when is the Ninja Blade replacement expected to be released?

- Sean

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Alex Eckelberry 
al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote:

  David,



 Support has gone to a web form.  The problem with the email address is that
 a lot gets dropped and mis-managed due to the volume of emails.  Putting it
 on a web form is a bit of a PITA for some, but it really does improve the
 response times and tracking of a ticket.



 The form is here:



 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/SupportForm/





 (I am working on making it more streamlined.)







 *From:* David Florea [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:51 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: ESET vs VIPRE



 Alex – the last couple of questions I’ve emailed to support weren’t even
 answered – is the supp...@sunbelt address not valid anymore, and what is
 the correct addy?  Thanks!



 *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:34 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: ESET vs VIPRE



 We have been doing private tests with AV-Comparatives for some time now.
 They have a bit of an odd setup (understatement) and it does take some work.



 I do hope to have a public test in the coming months.  They also have a
 rather odd testing schedule.





 Alex







 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:14 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: ESET vs VIPRE



 Stu,

 Why is Vipre still not a part of the AV-Comparitives tests?

 --
 ME2



 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com
 wrote:

   * Tests Show Consumer Antivirus Programs Falling Behind



 VIPRE however shines, comes out fifth, and beats out MSE, Panda, Norton,
 Kaspersky and ESET. NSS Labs tested 11 consumer security suites and
 found that the products are less effective than a year ago as far as
 blocking the download and execution of malicious software programs.
 The company also tested if those programs detected and blocked malicious
 Web sites.



 In its tests, the company used new malicious Web sites within minutes
 of discovery in addition to brand-new malware, which it contends is
 indicative of the conditions that users would find while browsing the
 Internet. ComputerWorld has the story:

 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9191718/Tests_show_consumer_antivirus_programs_falling_behind
 ?


  --

 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:28 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* ESET vs VIPRE

 Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think
 that VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size
 environment and do you guys think it's up to the job?

 --
 Stefan Jafs

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Re: Office 2000 SP1

I got to wondering about why you're running Office 2000 in this day and age
and it struck me that you're probably not licensed correctly.

More than likely your Office 2000 media/licenses were OEM.  Are you still
actually running Office 2000 on the same equipment that Office came with?
I'm not looking for an answer, and I would suggest that you don't answer it
publicly.  I know a lot of SMB's who believe that because they have the
media they have rights to install it on any machine, as long as it's only
one machine, which is true if you bought all your Office 2000 via Open
Licensing or Retail.  Are you really running equipment 8 or more years old?
You have some work to do here besides just getting users up to the latest
service pack of O2K.




On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:05 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
 wrote:

 Thank you. I am downloading from one of the links now. Perhaps Paul can
 send
 me the file size of the one he's got


 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Office 2000 SP1

 http://forums.techarena.in/office-update-service/1252357.htm

 Suggests searching for the file directly and even provides a link
 (untested).  Note, if you do this, I would do my best I get the file from a
 source that is trustworthy and I would scan that file with multiple AV
 packages.  And even double check some attributes with Paul Hutchings who
 indicated he still had the files available.



 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Aldrich
 jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
  Could be... All's I know is I can't install SP3 without first installing
 SP1(a), which I can't seem to download anywhere. :-(

 *sigh*


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:39 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

 I don't think that's the reason (lack of support) - Office 95 is still
 available for download (as is Win3.11 and DOS 6.2).

 There were a bunch of products removed from MSDN/Technet many years ago due
 to various law suits that Microsoft settled. The major one was with Sun
 around Java/J++, which necessitating removing a bunch of software that was
 infringing. That included some versions of Office, some versions of Visual
 Studio etc. I remember receiving a letter from MSDN about it at the time.

 Cheers
 Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:27 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Office 2000 SP1

 I can't see it in my MSDN download list, so I guessing it has gone, after
 all mainstream support ended back in 2004, and extended ended in June 2009.

 Can you not just install 2000 and then apply sp1 (although sp3 exists) to
 it
 afterwards, or make your own slipstream disk?  A quick google gives me this
 link:
 http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=272


 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: 19 October 2010 15:15
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Office 2000 SP1

 Anyone know where I can get the *FULL DOWNLOAD* version of the install for
 Office 2K, SP1? The links on Microsoft's website don't work any more (duh!
 It's no longer supported!) but I can't get management to spring for a half
 dozen new versions of Office, so I have to make do with what I have for
 now.

 I can see that there *used* to be a full-download, and I've tried the
 starter setupsr1.exe (or whatever it's called) but it starts to download
 the update and then after about 30 seconds (or less) says it can't download
 the update, and I'm guessing that's because Microsoft removed it from their
 site. *sigh*

 If anyone has that huge file and can point me to where I can download it,
 I'd greatly appreciate it!

 Thanks!

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RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Nope. They're mostly just empty messages, often with our graphical sig
attached, sometimes with a recipient, but most times, not even that. Just an
empty message with no recipient.




-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Any chance they have the LinkedIn Outlook add-on installed or some other
add-in that retrieves contact information from messages?  Are the messages
sitting in the Outbox not italicized like they are drafts or new messages?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Thanks, but most of those assume the messages are not being sent, when in
fact they are being sent, just the blank message stays around in the
outbox, sometimes with a recipient.




-Original Message-
From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SR
C





-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
(the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

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Re: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Were the originals addressed to individuals, DLs or multiple recipients?


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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:17 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:

 Nope. They're mostly just empty messages, often with our graphical sig
 attached, sometimes with a recipient, but most times, not even that. Just
 an
 empty message with no recipient.




 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 Any chance they have the LinkedIn Outlook add-on installed or some other
 add-in that retrieves contact information from messages?  Are the messages
 sitting in the Outbox not italicized like they are drafts or new
 messages?

 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:25 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 Thanks, but most of those assume the messages are not being sent, when in
 fact they are being sent, just the blank message stays around in the
 outbox, sometimes with a recipient.




 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness


 http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SR
 C





 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
 Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
 manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
 since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
 (the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
 however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
 question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
 sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
 be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
 machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

 All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.






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Re: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

2010-10-19 Thread Tony Patton

Malware?

T

typed slowly on HTC Desire
On 19 Oct 2010 20:17, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
 Nope. They're mostly just empty messages, often with our graphical sig
 attached, sometimes with a recipient, but most times, not even that. Just
an
 empty message with no recipient.




 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 Any chance they have the LinkedIn Outlook add-on installed or some other
 add-in that retrieves contact information from messages? Are the messages
 sitting in the Outbox not italicized like they are drafts or new
messages?

 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:25 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 Thanks, but most of those assume the messages are not being sent, when in
 fact they are being sent, just the blank message stays around in the
 outbox, sometimes with a recipient.




 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness


http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SR
 C





 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
 Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
 manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I
have
 since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
 (the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
 however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
 question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
 sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
 be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
 machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

 All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.






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Re: Great Plains/Dynamics experience

2010-10-19 Thread Tom Miller

I know the basics.  We have a database server, another server for integration 
products, and we use XenApp to make it available.  Feel free to mail on or 
off-list.

 Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu 10/18/2010 7:51 PM 
Anyone particularly familiar with Great Plains (preferably 2010) who can answer 
a few install/upgrade related questions for me off list?
TIA. 
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RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

I can't swear to it, but I think it's all been individuals. Some may have
been CC-ed to others.

 

John-AldrichPerception_2

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 

Were the originals addressed to individuals, DLs or multiple recipients?


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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:17 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:

Nope. They're mostly just empty messages, often with our graphical sig
attached, sometimes with a recipient, but most times, not even that. Just an
empty message with no recipient.





-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Any chance they have the LinkedIn Outlook add-on installed or some other
add-in that retrieves contact information from messages?  Are the messages
sitting in the Outbox not italicized like they are drafts or new messages?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Thanks, but most of those assume the messages are not being sent, when in
fact they are being sent, just the blank message stays around in the
outbox, sometimes with a recipient.




-Original Message-
From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outbox
http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8S
R src=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SR
C





-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I have
since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
(the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.

All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.






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RE: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

Possibly. That being said, we are running Vipre Enterprise here.. And I make
sure all the machines are scanned nightly.

 

John-AldrichPerception_2

 

From: Tony Patton [mailto:apco...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness

 

Malware?

T

typed slowly on HTC Desire

On 19 Oct 2010 20:17, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
 Nope. They're mostly just empty messages, often with our graphical sig
 attached, sometimes with a recipient, but most times, not even that. Just
an
 empty message with no recipient.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness
 
 Any chance they have the LinkedIn Outlook add-on installed or some other
 add-in that retrieves contact information from messages? Are the messages
 sitting in the Outbox not italicized like they are drafts or new
messages?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:25 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness
 
 Thanks, but most of those assume the messages are not being sent, when in
 fact they are being sent, just the blank message stays around in the
 outbox, sometimes with a recipient.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 strangeness
 
 http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outbox
http://www.bing.com/search?q=outlook+2000+outboxsrc=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8S
R src=IE-SearchBoxFORM=IE8SR
 C
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:50 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Outlook 2000 strangeness
 
 Ok, some of you may recall I posted recently about a user with Office 2000
 Outlook where the messages would be sent, but stay in the Outbox until
 manually deleted. Well, I have two more users who have that problem. I
have
 since updated two of the three to SP3, but when I went to update the third
 (the original person having problems) I discovered he's already on SP3,
 however he has Project 2003 and one other Office 2003 app installed. My
 question is, since SP3 was *supposed* to fix the problem of messages
 sticking in the Outbox on Office 2000, could the programs from Office 2003
 be conflicting some how? Since I *just* finished upgrading the other two
 machines to SP3, I don't know if it fixed the problem on them yet or not.
 
 All machines in question are Windows XP Pro, SP3.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: ESET vs VIPRE

Alex, when is the Ninja Blade replacement expected to be released?

Right, you had to ask me the one question I was hoping someone wouldn't ask ;-)

It's scheduled for beta in a few weeks.  I can ping you when it's ready if you 
like.


Alex


From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

While we're having this Sunbelt QA:

Alex, when is the Ninja Blade replacement expected to be released?

- Sean
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Alex Eckelberry 
al...@sunbelt-software.commailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote:
David,

Support has gone to a web form.  The problem with the email address is that a 
lot gets dropped and mis-managed due to the volume of emails.  Putting it on a 
web form is a bit of a PITA for some, but it really does improve the response 
times and tracking of a ticket.

The form is here:

http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/SupportForm/


(I am working on making it more streamlined.)



From: David Florea [mailto:blazer...@gmail.commailto:blazer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:51 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESET vs VIPRE

Alex - the last couple of questions I've emailed to support weren't even 
answered - is the supp...@sunbelt address not valid anymore, and what is the 
correct addy?  Thanks!

From: Alex Eckelberry 
[mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.commailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:34 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESET vs VIPRE

We have been doing private tests with AV-Comparatives for some time now.  They 
have a bit of an odd setup (understatement) and it does take some work.

I do hope to have a public test in the coming months.  They also have a rather 
odd testing schedule.


Alex



From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:14 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESET vs VIPRE

Stu,

Why is Vipre still not a part of the AV-Comparitives tests?

--
ME2

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Stu Sjouwerman 
s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote:
  * Tests Show Consumer Antivirus Programs Falling Behind

VIPRE however shines, comes out fifth, and beats out MSE, Panda, Norton,
Kaspersky and ESET. NSS Labs tested 11 consumer security suites and
found that the products are less effective than a year ago as far as
blocking the download and execution of malicious software programs.
The company also tested if those programs detected and blocked malicious
Web sites.

In its tests, the company used new malicious Web sites within minutes
of discovery in addition to brand-new malware, which it contends is
indicative of the conditions that users would find while browsing the
Internet. ComputerWorld has the story:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9191718/Tests_show_consumer_antivirus_programs_falling_behind?


From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:28 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESET vs VIPRE
Ok, my 300 seats of ESET is up for renewal, I'm finally starting to think that 
VIPRE is enterprise ready, is anyone using it in similar size environment and 
do you guys think it's up to the job?

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CASPOL docs for sysadmins?

2010-10-19 Thread Ben Scott

Hi list,

  I've got a vendor who wants me to do this:

caspol.exe  -m -q -ag 1. -site meters.example.com FullTrust -name
FMAuditWebAudit

and then go to some web site, to run their managed print audit thingy.
 Can anyone tell me what that means, from a practical security
standpoint?  If it means really bad idea (e.g., the moral equivalent
of running as admin), is there a more reasonable alternative?

  I've done a Google, and found plenty of hits, but most of it seems
to be written for programmers.  It talks about publishing
applications, and signing code, etc., etc., none of which I'm involved
with.  It all seems to assume I'm the one designing the program, so I
know exactly what it needs to do, and I have all the details on things
like what code groups and strong names have been assigned.

  We all know we can't trust programmers to give us security advice.
If I did everything programmers told me to do, every user account on
our network would be a member of Domain Admins.

  I'm willing to R a FM if someone can point me at one that's useful
for this situation.

  advTHANKSance!

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RE: CASPOL docs for sysadmins?

2010-10-19 Thread Damien Solodow

Looks like it is something that says allow this .Net assembly to run
from this site. 
I'd read it as being comparable to run a java app from a specific site. 

The important thing is that it looks like a modified caspol command line
would let you remove the permission the command below grants. 

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: CASPOL docs for sysadmins?

Hi list,

  I've got a vendor who wants me to do this:

caspol.exe  -m -q -ag 1. -site meters.example.com FullTrust -name
FMAuditWebAudit

and then go to some web site, to run their managed print audit thingy.
 Can anyone tell me what that means, from a practical security
standpoint?  If it means really bad idea (e.g., the moral equivalent
of running as admin), is there a more reasonable alternative?

  I've done a Google, and found plenty of hits, but most of it seems to
be written for programmers.  It talks about publishing applications, and
signing code, etc., etc., none of which I'm involved with.  It all seems
to assume I'm the one designing the program, so I know exactly what it
needs to do, and I have all the details on things like what code
groups and strong names have been assigned.

  We all know we can't trust programmers to give us security advice.
If I did everything programmers told me to do, every user account on our
network would be a member of Domain Admins.

  I'm willing to R a FM if someone can point me at one that's useful for
this situation.

  advTHANKSance!

-- Ben

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RE: CASPOL docs for sysadmins?

Well it's a bit more than that.

The .NET Framework has this concept of marking different APIs it provides based 
on the trust level they provide. FullTrust basically lets the app do anything. 
Your vendor probably has some sort of managed app hosted inside the site - the 
term fro this escapes me, but, by default that's going to run with a much lower 
trust level. It probably needs to invoke some API on your machine or write to 
the file system or something which would require a higher trust level.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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-Original Message-
From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: CASPOL docs for sysadmins?

Looks like it is something that says allow this .Net assembly to run from this 
site. 
I'd read it as being comparable to run a java app from a specific site. 

The important thing is that it looks like a modified caspol command line would 
let you remove the permission the command below grants. 

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: CASPOL docs for sysadmins?

Hi list,

  I've got a vendor who wants me to do this:

caspol.exe  -m -q -ag 1. -site meters.example.com FullTrust -name 
FMAuditWebAudit

and then go to some web site, to run their managed print audit thingy.
 Can anyone tell me what that means, from a practical security standpoint?  If 
it means really bad idea (e.g., the moral equivalent of running as admin), is 
there a more reasonable alternative?

  I've done a Google, and found plenty of hits, but most of it seems to be 
written for programmers.  It talks about publishing applications, and signing 
code, etc., etc., none of which I'm involved with.  It all seems to assume I'm 
the one designing the program, so I know exactly what it needs to do, and I 
have all the details on things like what code groups and strong names have 
been assigned.

  We all know we can't trust programmers to give us security advice.
If I did everything programmers told me to do, every user account on our 
network would be a member of Domain Admins.

  I'm willing to R a FM if someone can point me at one that's useful for this 
situation.

  advTHANKSance!

-- Ben

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network mapping software

2010-10-19 Thread Bill Songstad

I have been asked to fix up a fairly complicated small network that has
lost their network admin and their boss. A lot of knowledge was tied up in
those individuals and contacting them is often quite difficult.
Additionally their memories have as many holes as their records.

I need a network map that shows all the network connected devices and makes
a guess as to what they are.  There  are PCs, servers of multiple heritage,
phones, printers, routers, switches, hubs, and who knows what all else
plugged into this subnet.  I hope that maybe the collective knowledge here
knows of some less expensive to free solutions to fill in some of the blanks
automagically?

I understand that the expensive version of Visio used to do a decent job of
this, but it looks like it may be outside the budget for this project.
Lansweeper is free, but pretty much only handles windows
boxes. Solarwinds is too much, as is What's Pp Gold. I've seen Spiceworks
mentioned here quite a bit, but there always seemed to be an undertone of
mockery about it from some folks.  Does anyone care to share their
experiences with cheap network mapping software?

Your input is greatly appreciated,

Bill

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Re: CASPOL docs for sysadmins?

2010-10-19 Thread Ben Scott

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Damien Solodow
damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote:
 Looks like it is something that says allow this .Net assembly to run
 from this site.

  As the estimable Mr. Desmond points out, I don't think it's that simple.

  By reading the MSFT docs, I've been able to discern that

-q suppresses an Are you sure? prompt.

-m modifies the local machine policy (as opposed to?).

-ag 1. adds a new code group to the code group hierarchy, with
1. as the parent group ID.  But it's not at all clear to me what a
code group is used for, and what the significance of 1. is.

 -name FMAuditWebAudit associates a name with the group being added.

FullTrust means normally-present restrictions are being removed.  So
then I of course wonder, is there a way I can be more granular or
restrictive?  Do I have to give away the keys to kingdom?

-site meters.example.com specifies the site the code is coming
from, but it isn't clear to me if that's in addition to the code group
specification (logical AND, making things more restricted), or
something else.

  But I definitely don't have the big picture, and that scares me.
Look at the security nightmare ActiveX turned out to be.  I don't want
to go down that road all over again.

-- Ben

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