RE: Organise feature in Outlook 2010

[Oliver Marshall]

For the sake of the googleness, it would appear that the feature is no longer 
in Outlook :(

Instead you need use the Conditional Formatting option. View tab > View 
Settings > Conditional formatting.


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From: Oliver Marshall
Sent: 14 January 2011 11:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Organise feature in Outlook 2010

Anyone know where the Organise feature has gone in Outlook 2010? You used to be 
able (in 2003 and 2007) to organise emails by saying "all emails from 
a...@asd.com colour red" or grey, or yellow etc.

This isn't done via a rule but rather via the Organise feature.

However I can't see it anywhere in Outlook 2010.

Anyone else see it anywhere?

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RE: Watchguard xtm 510

[greg.sweers]

Paul,

We use the XTM quite heavily.  XTM is fundamentally different from WFS, which 
is the File System they used on the older Watchguard systems.  XTM is several 
quantum leaps beyond it.

What software version are you on?
Are you in drop in mode or routing mode?

When configuring the proxy's there is a button to the right of logging that is 
your various control options for the proxy.  Have you reviewed those?

Also I am not aware that PPTP is a proxy.  Are you using the WG to terminate 
the VPN tunnel or are you passing it through to a server or device to handle 
PPTP.  If it's the latter, add the PPTP rule, From External-Any and do a NAT to 
the internal IP, if you are not using NAT, then just specify the public IP of 
your VPN device behind the firewall.

Remember XTM requires two rules, one for each direction, WFS allowed you to do 
this on one rule, but for proxy's whatever option you selected applied to both 
directions, in XTM you can make the proxy behave differently per direction.  By 
default there is an Outgoing rule that will allow all outbound UDP/TCP traffic 
if you go through the config wizard, otherwise you have to configure each rule 
manually so check that you have an Outgoing rule.

Feel free to hit me off list.

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From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Watchguard xtm 510

I've upgraded from an old watchguard firewall to this xtm 510, and I'm having 
some issues configuring proxies for my pptp users (they can connect to the 
firewall, but not the network) and the http proxy to allow active sync to work 
(doesn't seem to open port 80).  I've got the configurations as close as I can 
to what the old box has, but these issues have me pulling out my hair.
I have an incident ticket in with WatchGuard, but their 4hr call back will put 
me into next Tue since I'm off till then after today.
Looking for suggestions.  Off list is ok.

Thanks,
Paul


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RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Ben Schorr]

Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we've done it.

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

 

Assuming you didn't want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a
"proper" backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a
critical file every X minutes?

 

A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious
if there are any smarter/better options.

 

Thanks,

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Wake on LAN options

[Tom Miller]

Folks,
 
For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our workstation 
management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan 
doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall seeing some comments on 
other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, 
updates before staff arrive.  It would be nice if there were some sort of agent 
product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Jeff Bunting]

The /MON and /MOT switches in Robocopy may be useful for you this.

Jeff

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Paul Hutchings
wrote:

>  Assuming you didn’t want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a
> “proper” backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a
> critical file every X minutes?
>
>
>
> A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious if
> there are any smarter/better options.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
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OT: Google Info Alternative?

[Roger Wright]

Google Info (800.466.4411) has discontinued service as of last November.  Is
there anything similar you'd recommend?


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Re: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

[C.E. Gene Connor]

It's not very often I get a chance to help you guys out? But, if it is cheap
hardware you are looking to buy. I have used these for years and have also
turned other in the same spot as you. You may be able to get stuff cheaper
off ebay. But, do you trust the seller?

http://www.pacificgeek.com/
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/

http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/category/0

as for software I would go
with action pack. And yes you do need to be verified you are a real
business.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Brian Desmond wrote:

> *I have an IcyDock cage. It came with the cables, brackets, etc which I
> was pretty impressed with. Just had to wire it up to my SATA controller.*
>
> * *
>
> *I also have a big Buffalo NAS with piles of junk on it. I know VMWare
> supports NFS of some sort so at some point if I need to expand I might look
> in to that. *
>
> * *
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Brian Desmond*
>
> *br...@briandesmond.com*
>
> * *
>
> *w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132*
>
> * *
>
> *From:* Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:25 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch
>
>
>
> Carpentry, huh? Well, my boss is a Jewish carpenter.  ;-)
>
> Thanks for the input, everyone. This definitely helps me to put things into
> perspective. As for being "ashamed", well, ASB picked up on the intended
> hyperbole. I have much ?better? things of which to actually be ashamed!
>
> I haven't had the burning desire or time to work with a home lab in the
> past, but definitely need to, and now is the time. The office is not
> conducive to a test environment, and the way things are these days, who
> knows how much longer %work% will be there. If I decide to branch out on my
> own, I need a test environment. Building such while being employed is much
> easier to do financially, as opposed to the alternative.
>
> On a more technical note, ASB - why specifically did you recommend that
> particular model Netgear over Linksys or anything else?
>
> Brian - curious, what brand/model is your external SATA cage? I don't know
> why I didn't think about a TechNet subscription (*headdesk*) - I have one at
> work. Duh. Thanks for the reminder. I even found a discount code online for
> TechNet Pro (no media) that knocked $88 off!
>
> Steven - multiple good points about documentation and 'real' servers being
> LOUD compared to desktops. I need to learn more about multiplicity, and I
> had not heard of Virtual Box. I'll have to read up on that as well.
>
> Again, thanks to EVERYONE for your input. I really appreciate it.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Jan 13, 2011 1:10 PM, "Jonathan Link"  wrote:
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Re: OT: Google Info Alternative?

[Roger Wright]

Duh... BING-411 is similar so I'll give it a try.  (should have Google'd
before posting!)


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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> Google Info (800.466.4411) has discontinued service as of last November.
>  Is there anything similar you'd recommend?
>
>
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Re: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Andrew S. Baker]

+1

+2 = Using the /MON and /MOT switches as indicated by Jeff


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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Ben Schorr  wrote:

> Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we’ve done it.
>
>
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> *Roland Schorr & Tower
> *www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backing up an important file every X minutes?
>
>
>
> Assuming you didn’t want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a “proper”
> backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a critical
> file every X minutes?
>
>
>
> A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious if
> there are any smarter/better options.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
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>
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RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks.  Any neater way to get a file.xyx.1 and file.xyz.2 and so on
other than a batch file with a bunch of renames/copies?



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 January 2011 15:27
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

 

+1

 

+2 = Using the /MON and /MOT switches as indicated by Jeff


 

ASB (My Bio via About.Me  ) 
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

 





On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Ben Schorr 
wrote:

Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we've done it.

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

 

Assuming you didn't want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a
"proper" backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a
critical file every X minutes?

 

A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious
if there are any smarter/better options.

 

Thanks,

Paul



MIRA Ltd

 

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Re: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Jeff Bunting]

Just reread the OP and my semi-coherent reply.  Robocopy works on
directories, so it may not be exactly what you want if other files that you
don't want to copy reside in the same directory as the one(s) you do want to
copy.

Jeff

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Paul Hutchings
wrote:

>  Thanks.  Any neater way to get a file.xyx.1 and file.xyz.2 and so on
> other than a batch file with a bunch of renames/copies?
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 14 January 2011 15:27
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Backing up an important file every X minutes?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
> +2 = Using the /MON and /MOT switches as indicated by Jeff
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me )
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Ben Schorr 
> wrote:
>
> Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we’ve done it.
>
>
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> *Roland Schorr & Tower
> *www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backing up an important file every X minutes?
>
>
>
> Assuming you didn’t want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a “proper”
> backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a critical
> file every X minutes?
>
>
>
> A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious if
> there are any smarter/better options.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
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RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Bob Fronk]

Second Copy will do this.  Also will run as a service.

BF



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From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we've done it.

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

Assuming you didn't want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a "proper" 
backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a critical file 
every X minutes?

A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious if 
there are any smarter/better options.

Thanks,
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RE: Wake on LAN options

[Free, Bob]

http://www.1e.com/softwareproducts/nightwatchman/index.aspx is used on 
workstations here, pretty full featured product suite used in some fairly large 
enterprises. Combined with some of their other solutions, or ones you may 
already have, I believe that it could accomplish just what you want.
 I don't know that much about it because my only interaction with it is to go 
to a web page to power up the machine in my office when I'm not there :)

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wake on LAN options

Folks,

For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our workstation 
management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan 
doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall seeing some comments on 
other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, 
updates before staff arrive.  It would be nice if there were some sort of agent 
product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.




Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528

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Office help

[C.E. Gene Connor]

My "beauty-full  & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income
people like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody .

Question #1
We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place
for them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer
version of word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how
to fix this for her and them.

I did however find this
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en

Is
this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill them
in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't want to
screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I do.

Qusetion # 2
Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have
installed foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be
able to edit & design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all
recommend as a free or low priced pdf editor.

Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I
worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up
with my a$$holeism's ways etc.

-- 
Gene C.

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RE: Wake on LAN options

[Carol Fee]

Any pricing info ?  I really don't want some sales person calling me.

CFee
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wake on LAN options

http://www.1e.com/softwareproducts/nightwatchman/index.aspx is used on 
workstations here, pretty full featured product suite used in some fairly large 
enterprises. Combined with some of their other solutions, or ones you may 
already have, I believe that it could accomplish just what you want.
 I don't know that much about it because my only interaction with it is to go 
to a web page to power up the machine in my office when I'm not there :)

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wake on LAN options

Folks,

For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our workstation 
management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan 
doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall seeing some comments on 
other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, 
updates before staff arrive.  It would be nice if there were some sort of agent 
product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.




Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528

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RE: Office help

[Maglinger, Paul]

Typically a newer version of Word will open a document created with an older 
version.  The other side of the coin is that if they create or convert a 
document to a newer version then you will have to install the compatibility 
pack.

The link you supplied applies to her system

I have no suggestion for the PDF file editing

-Paul.

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office help

My "beauty-full  & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income people 
like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody .

Question #1
We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place for 
them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer version of 
word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how to fix this 
for her and them.

I did however find this 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en

Is this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill them 
in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't want to 
screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I do.

Qusetion # 2
Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have installed 
foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be able to edit & 
design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all recommend as a free 
or low priced pdf editor.

Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I 
worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up 
with my a$$holeism's ways etc.

--
Gene C.
Misc. B.S.
http://genec-lori.com/

PackRat GarageSale
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RE: Wake on LAN options

[Free, Bob]

* Sorry, I don't have anything to do with desktops. I imagine it 
totally depends on volume as they have customers like Dell & MS and say their 
largest is 300K seats.
* One of the bullet points on their web page does say "Average energy 
savings of $36 per PC per year to offset costs in 12 months or less"  so I 
could venture a guess as to list price :)

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wake on LAN options

Any pricing info ?  I really don't want some sales person calling me.

CFee
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wake on LAN options

http://www.1e.com/softwareproducts/nightwatchman/index.aspx is used on 
workstations here, pretty full featured product suite used in some fairly large 
enterprises. Combined with some of their other solutions, or ones you may 
already have, I believe that it could accomplish just what you want.
 I don't know that much about it because my only interaction with it is to go 
to a web page to power up the machine in my office when I'm not there :)

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wake on LAN options

Folks,

For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our workstation 
management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan 
doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall seeing some comments on 
other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, 
updates before staff arrive.  It would be nice if there were some sort of agent 
product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.




Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528

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Re: Office help

[Bob Hartung]

An alternative would be to use a product like PDF Typewriter. It allows you to 
create a PDF with fields that can be filled in. Costs $30.

Website: www.ctdeveloping.com

--

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Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
  _  

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0600
Subject: Office help

My "beauty-full  & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income people 
like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody . 


Question #1
We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place for 
them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer version of 
word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how to fix this 
for her and them.
  

I did however find this 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en
  


Is this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill them 
in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't want to 
screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I do.  


Qusetion # 2 
Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have installed 
foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be able to edit & 
design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all recommend as a free 
or low priced pdf editor.  


Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I 
worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up 
with my a$$holeism's ways etc.
  
-- 
Gene C.

  
Misc. B.S.  
http://genec-lori.com/
 
PackRat GarageSale
http://genec-lori.biz/
   
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Yulee ,Fl
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Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators
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RE: Office help

[Jim Mediger]

If they are using Office 2010 (not sure about 2007) then they may have to right 
click on the file and select properties, In the General tab at the very bottom 
(shows up under Attributes if it's available) it may have a Security section.

Security:  This file came from another computer and might be 
blocked to help protect this computer.

Click the Unblock button.

If they have an older version of Office your wife could do a "save as" and 
select an older version of office or they might need to install a compatibility 
pack.

For a PDF editor we use Bluebeam PDF Revu  http://www.bluebeam.com/

Jim

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office help

My "beauty-full  & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income people 
like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody .

Question #1
We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place for 
them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer version of 
word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how to fix this 
for her and them.

I did however find this 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en

Is this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill them 
in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't want to 
screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I do.

Qusetion # 2
Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have installed 
foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be able to edit & 
design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all recommend as a free 
or low priced pdf editor.

Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I 
worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up 
with my a$$holeism's ways etc.

--
Gene C.
Misc. B.S.
http://genec-lori.com/

PackRat GarageSale
http://genec-lori.biz/

Genes-Computers Inc.
Yulee ,Fl
Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder & Active
registered Microsoft Partner
Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators
If you think you're beaten, Then you are!
If you give up the fight, Accept it !!


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Re: Wake on LAN options

[Bob Hartung]

I use VNC Manager from SmartCode for my remote management ( www.s-code.com). It 
capable of doing a lot of admin tasks, one of them being Wake-on-LAN. Basic 
version costs $42. Has utility to scan your network for IP addresses and MAC 
addresses. You can save that info for use with WOL. You can wake one PC or as 
many as you highlight. VNC on the PC is not required for this to work.

So far, any PC I have that supports WOL works with VNC Mgr.

--

Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
  _  

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:23:44 -0600
Subject: Wake on LAN options


Folks,  
   
For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our workstation 
management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan 
doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall seeing some comments on 
other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, 
updates before staff arrive.  It would be nice if there were some sort of agent 
product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.  
   
   
   
 Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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RE: Wake on LAN options -step by step on the cheap. Free!

[David Lum]

What I do, assumes you use DHCP for most everything (since you need MAC 
addresses). Also get WOL.EXE from somewhere (easily found on the net) and your 
environment is reasonably static:
Export the DHCP list to .TXT - you now have MAC addresses alongside machine 
names. Open file in Excel, kill everything but MAC addresses
Open Excel
1. In column A, put \WOL.EXE (the entire row alongside the MAC addr's)
2. Dump the MAC addresses into COLUMN B
In Column C, put =A1&" "&B1 (this concatenates the cells of A1 and B1 and puts 
a space in between them)
Column C cut and paste into "WAKE-ALL.BAT".
Schedule WAKE-ALL.BAT
Done.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wake on LAN options

Folks,

For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our workstation 
management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan 
doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall seeing some comments on 
other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, 
updates before staff arrive.  It would be nice if there were some sort of agent 
product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.




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Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528

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Re: Office help

[C.E. Gene Connor]

Thank you all so kindly for the answers you have given to me. when she gets
home"only works 4 hrs a day" I let her read this mail. And let you know the
out come!

as for the older version of office? It is us that use pro 2003 suit.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jim Mediger  wrote:

> If they are using Office 2010 (not sure about 2007) then they may have to
> right click on the file and select properties, In the General tab at the
> very bottom (shows up under Attributes if it’s available) it may have a
> Security section.
>
>
>
> Security:  This file came from another computer and might be
> blocked to help protect this computer.
>
>
>
> Click the Unblock button.
>
>
>
> If they have an older version of Office your wife could do a “save as” and
> select an older version of office or they might need to install a
> compatibility pack.
>
>
>
> For a PDF editor we use Bluebeam PDF Revu  http://www.bluebeam.com/
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 10:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Office help
>
>
>
> My "beauty-full  & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income
> people like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody .
>
>
>
> Question #1
>
> We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place
> for them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer
> version of word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how
> to fix this for her and them.
>
>
>
> I did however find this
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en
>
>
>
> Is this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill
> them in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't
> want to screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I
> do.
>
>
>
> Qusetion # 2
>
> Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have
> installed foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be
> able to edit & design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all
> recommend as a free or low priced pdf editor.
>
>
>
> Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I
> worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up
> with my a$$holeism's ways etc.
>
> --
> Gene C.
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RE: Office help

[Orland, Kathleen]

PrimoPDF works just fine here. It's free and has no nag screens. 

 

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 January 2011 11:33
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office help

 

My "beauty-full  & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income
people like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody . 

 

Question #1

We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place
for them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer
version of word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how
to fix this for her and them.

 

I did however find this
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4A
EE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466
 &displaylang=en

 

Is this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill
them in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't
want to screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I
do.

 

Qusetion # 2 

Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have
installed foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be
able to edit & design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all
recommend as a free or low priced pdf editor.

 

Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I
worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up
with my a$$holeism's ways etc.

-- 
Gene C.

Misc. B.S.

http://genec-lori.com/
 
PackRat GarageSale
http://genec-lori.biz/
 
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Yulee ,Fl
Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder & Active
registered Microsoft Partner
Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators
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If you give up the fight, Accept it !!

 

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RE: Wake on LAN options

[Tom Miller]

That's exactly what I'm looking at.  The SCCM list serve has discussion
on this product and people seem to like it.   
 
Carol, once I get pricing (although we are state/non-profit), I can let
you know.  

>>> "Free, Bob"  1/14/2011 11:25 AM >>>

http://www.1e.com/softwareproducts/nightwatchman/index.aspx is used on
workstations here, pretty full featured product suite used in some
fairly large enterprises. Combined with some of their other solutions,
or ones you may already have, I believe that it could accomplish just
what you want. 
 I don’t know that much about it because my only interaction with it is
to go to a web page to power up the machine in my office when I’m not
there J
 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wake on LAN options

 

Folks,

 

For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our
workstation management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well,
but the wake on lan doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall
seeing some comments on other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd
like to wake up PCs, run scans, updates before staff arrive.  It would
be nice if there were some sort of agent product where I don't have to
reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.

 

 

 

 

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Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
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RE: Office help

[Sam Cayze]

I just saw an article for a free service online that lets one fill PDF
forms.

Can't recall where I saw it :(

 

From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Office help

 

PrimoPDF works just fine here. It's free and has no nag screens. 

 

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 January 2011 11:33
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office help

 

My "beauty-full  & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income
people like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody . 

 

Question #1

We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place
for them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer
version of word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how
to fix this for her and them.

 

I did however find this
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4A
EE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466
 &displaylang=en

 

Is this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill
them in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't
want to screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I
do.

 

Qusetion # 2 

Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have
installed foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be
able to edit & design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all
recommend as a free or low priced pdf editor.

 

Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I
worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up
with my a$$holeism's ways etc.

-- 
Gene C.

Misc. B.S.

http://genec-lori.com/
 
PackRat GarageSale
http://genec-lori.biz/
 
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Yulee ,Fl
Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder & Active
registered Microsoft Partner
Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators
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Re: Does Windows 7 (x64) NIC work with Win 2008r2 (x64)

[Matthew W. Ross]

While not always 100% true, if a network card works with Windows 7, it should 
work with Server 2008 R2. The two operating systems are based on the same code.

Same is true with Vista <--> Windows Server 2008 and XP <--> Server 2003.

But more importantly, what network card are you looking at using? Do you know 
its' brand, model number? IE, is it made by Intel? Broadcom? Is it integrated 
into the motherboard of the system in question? If so, what kind of system is 
it? Dell? HP?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2011
10:45:18 -0800
Subject: Does Windows 7 (x64) NIC work with Win 2008r2
(x64)


> Has anyone used a workstation NIC from an x64 Windows 7 in an x64 Windows
> 2008R2 server ? 
> 
> Looking to build another test box, but not wanting to spend hundreds $$$ on
> a server class Ethernet adapter.
> 
>  
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RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

[Sam Cayze]

Curious, has anyone ever built a test lab in the Cloud, utilizing Amazon EC2
for example?

 

Viable solution?

 

Sam

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

 

I have an IcyDock cage. It came with the cables, brackets, etc which I was
pretty impressed with. Just had to wire it up to my SATA controller.

 

I also have a big Buffalo NAS with piles of junk on it. I know VMWare
supports NFS of some sort so at some point if I need to expand I might look
in to that. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

 

From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

 

Carpentry, huh? Well, my boss is a Jewish carpenter.  ;-)

Thanks for the input, everyone. This definitely helps me to put things into
perspective. As for being "ashamed", well, ASB picked up on the intended
hyperbole. I have much ?better? things of which to actually be ashamed!

I haven't had the burning desire or time to work with a home lab in the
past, but definitely need to, and now is the time. The office is not
conducive to a test environment, and the way things are these days, who
knows how much longer %work% will be there. If I decide to branch out on my
own, I need a test environment. Building such while being employed is much
easier to do financially, as opposed to the alternative.

On a more technical note, ASB - why specifically did you recommend that
particular model Netgear over Linksys or anything else?

Brian - curious, what brand/model is your external SATA cage? I don't know
why I didn't think about a TechNet subscription (*headdesk*) - I have one at
work. Duh. Thanks for the reminder. I even found a discount code online for
TechNet Pro (no media) that knocked $88 off!

Steven - multiple good points about documentation and 'real' servers being
LOUD compared to desktops. I need to learn more about multiplicity, and I
had not heard of Virtual Box. I'll have to read up on that as well.

Again, thanks to EVERYONE for your input. I really appreciate it.

Jonathan

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Re: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Sam Cayze]

Another option is SyncBack.  It has versioning built into it.
On Jan 14, 2011 10:05 AM, "Bob Fronk"  wrote:
> Second Copy will do this. Also will run as a service.
>
> BF
>
>
>
> Bob Fronk
> b...@btrfronk.com
>
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?
>
> Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we've done it.
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> Roland Schorr & Tower
> www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Backing up an important file every X minutes?
>
> Assuming you didn't want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a "proper"
backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a critical
file every X minutes?
>
> A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious if
there are any smarter/better options.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

[Shauna Hensala]

No - but on the face of it, it sounds like a grand solution!  Good thinking.


From: sca...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:54:23 -0600



Curious, has anyone ever built a test lab in the Cloud, utilizing Amazon EC2 
for example? Viable solution? Sam From: Brian Desmond 
[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch I have an IcyDock cage. 
It came with the cables, brackets, etc which I was pretty impressed with. Just 
had to wire it up to my SATA controller. I also have a big Buffalo NAS with 
piles of junk on it. I know VMWare supports NFS of some sort so at some point 
if I need to expand I might look in to that.  Thanks,Brian 
desmondbr...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132 From: 
Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch Carpentry, huh? Well, my 
boss is a Jewish carpenter.  ;-)Thanks for the input, everyone. This definitely 
helps me to put things into perspective. As for being "ashamed", well, ASB 
picked up on the intended hyperbole. I have much ?better? things of which to 
actually be ashamed!I haven't had the burning desire or time to work with a 
home lab in the past, but definitely need to, and now is the time. The office 
is not conducive to a test environment, and the way things are these days, who 
knows how much longer %work% will be there. If I decide to branch out on my 
own, I need a test environment. Building such while being employed is much 
easier to do financially, as opposed to the alternative.On a more technical 
note, ASB - why specifically did you recommend that particular model Netgear 
over Linksys or anything else?Brian - curious, what brand/model is your 
external SATA cage? I don't know why I didn't think about a TechNet 
subscription (*headdesk*) - I have one at work. Duh. Thanks for the reminder. I 
even found a discount code online for TechNet Pro (no media) that knocked $88 
off!Steven - multiple good points about documentation and 'real' servers being 
LOUD compared to desktops. I need to learn more about multiplicity, and I had 
not heard of Virtual Box. I'll have to read up on that as well.Again, thanks to 
EVERYONE for your input. I really appreciate it.JonathanOn Jan 13, 2011 1:10 
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Re: RE: DELL UPS

[Sam Cayze]

Dell does that if you put any accessories on the same invoice as the server
purchase.

I've had Dell fix my APC units many times.  Very handy.
 On Jan 12, 2011 10:54 AM, "Mike Hoffman"  wrote:
> Well put. We supply a lot of APC units, from the desktop systems to the
fully redundant units taking multiple 3 phase feeds. Always start with the
load (the VA), then look at the runtime, then the features, then the
environment (input and output).
>
> I know that HP with HP used to cover all accessories on a warranty, so a 4
hour 24/7 for the server would cover the UPS if it was HP. If dell are doing
the same then that can make it a very compelling option.
>
> Ask the sales guy for some details and check what PDU's it works with. I
have seen sales guys come in under cost on the UPS unit and then mark up the
PDU's substantially as they claim they all have to be compatible. Also
sometimes Dell have promotions on attaching accessories to sales ;-)
>
> Mike
>
> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> Sent: 12 January 2011 16:24
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: DELL UPS
>
> I believe I may know (at least part of) the answer here. Bear with me...
>
> Others have stated in this thread that Dell is likely rebranding an APC
product. While I have not looked into this specifically, I would be highly
inclined to believe this to be the case. Dell doesn't make printers,
switches, mice, or keyboards, so why should they make UPSes?
>
> I digress.
>
> While it sounds like a sales tactic, you should always ask why. It is
possible that there is an ounce of truth to what he is saying, but he may
not know why. Regardless, I would be willing to bet that a selection of the
correct UPS from just about any major vendor, particularly APC, would work
just fine. He's likely pushing that sales pitch, 1) because it is Dell
branded, but 2) because the UPS is known to work properly with the power
supplies employed in that particular line of servers (specifically, Power
Factor Correction power supplies).
>
> There actually are many differences between UPS types and how they behave,
both while utility power is present and when utility power is removed. There
are UPSes that switch from utility to battery backup, causing a slight
interruption in power for a few milliseconds. This is tolerable for most
consumer electronics and even PCs and servers, as long as the end user
device power supply maintains a capacitive charge long enough to power the
device for the duration of the transfer from utility to battery. This type
of UPS is referred to as an Offline or Standby type, and is likely what you
have at your desk, if you have one.
>
> Additionally, there are UPSes that actually never break the connection to
the end user device, and so there is zero transfer time that is realized on
the output. These UPSes are typically more expensive than what most of us
buy on a regular basis, unless we've got some really big and critical loads
that we're protecting. These are referred to as Online, or possibly Ferro
Resonant, or Double Conversion UPSes, depending on the technology & design.
>
> Finally, (and this is where the ounce of truth comes in) there are also
differences in how the power output is generated by the UPS. This is likely
what the sales person was referring to in the sales pitch (aside from the
fact that he was pushing a particular brand). There are sine wave, simulated
sine wave, and various square wave outputs depending on the quality and
technologies employed in the UPS design. As I mentioned earlier, Power
Factor Correction power supplies do NOT like a square wave power source -
they are designed for a true sine wave power source and will not run
properly, if at all, from a square wave power source. Low end UPSes tend to
have a modified square wave or a stepped square wave instead of what would
be seen as a more pure sine wave output. Total Harmonic Distortion also
plays a key role here. So, if the power supply of the device cannot run well
on a simulated or stepped square wave power, and the UPS is an offline type
that generates a stepped square wave when the utility is lost, then all you
really have is an extra heavy surge suppressor...everything is fine when
online, but the instant you lose utility power, your load device will likely
lose power as well.
>
> For more information, see these links:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverter_(electrical) (specifically scroll
down to "Output waveforms"
>
> http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/support/faqs/topologysinewave.html (good
read in general talking about UPS and Output Waveform types.)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor#Passive_PFC (Power Factor
Correction)
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
> www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>
>
> 
> Fro

RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

[Brian Desmond]

I've put stuff up there. Biggest issue is going to be cost and the semi 
non-persisted storage that EC2 uses.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

Curious, has anyone ever built a test lab in the Cloud, utilizing Amazon EC2 
for example?

Viable solution?

Sam

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch

I have an IcyDock cage. It came with the cables, brackets, etc which I was 
pretty impressed with. Just had to wire it up to my SATA controller.

I also have a big Buffalo NAS with piles of junk on it. I know VMWare supports 
NFS of some sort so at some point if I need to expand I might look in to that.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OTish? - Building a home lab from scratch


Carpentry, huh? Well, my boss is a Jewish carpenter.  ;-)

Thanks for the input, everyone. This definitely helps me to put things into 
perspective. As for being "ashamed", well, ASB picked up on the intended 
hyperbole. I have much ?better? things of which to actually be ashamed!

I haven't had the burning desire or time to work with a home lab in the past, 
but definitely need to, and now is the time. The office is not conducive to a 
test environment, and the way things are these days, who knows how much longer 
%work% will be there. If I decide to branch out on my own, I need a test 
environment. Building such while being employed is much easier to do 
financially, as opposed to the alternative.

On a more technical note, ASB - why specifically did you recommend that 
particular model Netgear over Linksys or anything else?

Brian - curious, what brand/model is your external SATA cage? I don't know why 
I didn't think about a TechNet subscription (*headdesk*) - I have one at work. 
Duh. Thanks for the reminder. I even found a discount code online for TechNet 
Pro (no media) that knocked $88 off!

Steven - multiple good points about documentation and 'real' servers being LOUD 
compared to desktops. I need to learn more about multiplicity, and I had not 
heard of Virtual Box. I'll have to read up on that as well.

Again, thanks to EVERYONE for your input. I really appreciate it.

Jonathan
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Weird Windows Explorer issue...

[RichardMcClary]

Greetings!


Yesterday morning, when checking application logs on a VoIP conroller, I 
got a "Warning" (MS Apps events) that a warning file in a specific folder 
needed to be processed or deleted.  I got one such warning per hour.  I go 
to the folder specified, and it is (apparently) empty.

Today, I got curious and did a "Start->Search" for *.ERR files.  The 
results showed the filename spefified in the folder specified.

I go back to Windows Explorer, go to that path/folder, and it is 
apparently empty.  Do another search, and there the file is in the same 
path...

No, the file is not hidden (at least by file attribute).

Wind2003 R2 SP2.

Too late in the day to reboot the thing, but has anyone else heard of such 
weirdness?
--
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RE: Does Windows 7 (x64) NIC work with Win 2008r2 (x64)

[Erik Goldoff]

I don't have the card yet, looking to go buy a couple, not sure what's on
the shelf at the local shop.  The server will be a Frankenstein/homebuilt,
using an i7 processor again on an EX58-UD4P mobo.  The mobo has one
integrated gigabit NIC (realtek ?) that works fine, but all I've got left
for add-ins for extra ports are some older 3Com 3c905b-tx and similar, no
chance for 64 bit drivers.

Fry's here last week had a deal on Corsair DDR3 memory, 12gb kit ( 3 sticks
) for $139 with a $10 mail in rebate!  ( and yes, I'm old enough to remember
when that $$$ would barely buy a mb of RAM, and even before when it was
barely enough for the 9 chips in a 256kb set to hand install into the mobo
sockets, uphill, both ways ! )


Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Does Windows 7 (x64) NIC work with Win 2008r2 (x64)

While not always 100% true, if a network card works with Windows 7, it
should work with Server 2008 R2. The two operating systems are based on the
same code.

Same is true with Vista <--> Windows Server 2008 and XP <--> Server 2003.

But more importantly, what network card are you looking at using? Do you
know its' brand, model number? IE, is it made by Intel? Broadcom? Is it
integrated into the motherboard of the system in question? If so, what kind
of system is it? Dell? HP?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Erik Goldoff
[mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2011
10:45:18 -0800
Subject: Does Windows 7 (x64) NIC work with Win 2008r2
(x64)


> Has anyone used a workstation NIC from an x64 Windows 7 in an x64 Windows
> 2008R2 server ? 
> 
> Looking to build another test box, but not wanting to spend hundreds $$$
on
> a server class Ethernet adapter.
> 
>  
> 
> Erik Goldoff
> 
> IT  Consultant
> 
> Systems, Networks, & Security 
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RE: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Paul Hutchings]

Ah now that sounds perfect.  I don't think the issue is that a nightly
backup is insufficient longer term, just that the owners of the document
(it's being updated all day) are twitchy if someone has finger trouble
or it corrupts itself about how recent a version they could revert
to/how much data they'd lose.

 

Thanks!



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 January 2011 19:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

 

Another option is SyncBack.  It has versioning built into it.

On Jan 14, 2011 10:05 AM, "Bob Fronk"  wrote:
> Second Copy will do this. Also will run as a service.
> 
> BF
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Fronk
> b...@btrfronk.com
> 
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?
> 
> Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we've done it.
> 
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> Roland Schorr & Tower
> www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
> 
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Backing up an important file every X minutes?
> 
> Assuming you didn't want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a
"proper" backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a
critical file every X minutes?
> 
> A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just
curious if there are any smarter/better options.
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul
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RE: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

[Damien Solodow]

If you're using ESXi (which you definitely should) you can purchase a
supported USB key or SD Card from HP to install vSphere on. This will
save you the money and potential grief of hard drives, array
controllers, etc.

 

Also make sure to install the HP NMI driver and ESXi offline bundle
(both can be done via Update Manager)

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

 

Just looking at this -
http://cavarpe.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/hp-hardware-documentation/

 

I have 2 DL380 G7's that I'm in the process of configuring/testing that
will be running vSphere 4.1.

 

Those of you with similar, any tweaks to share?

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

[Paul Hutchings]

The servers are already here, for what a pair of HDD's cost I went with
that option.

 

Other than allowing for management from SIM and the likes, is there any
benefit in installing the HP bundle?

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: 14 January 2011 20:06
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

 

If you're using ESXi (which you definitely should) you can purchase a
supported USB key or SD Card from HP to install vSphere on. This will
save you the money and potential grief of hard drives, array
controllers, etc.

 

Also make sure to install the HP NMI driver and ESXi offline bundle
(both can be done via Update Manager)

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

 

Just looking at this -
http://cavarpe.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/hp-hardware-documentation/

 

I have 2 DL380 G7's that I'm in the process of configuring/testing that
will be running vSphere 4.1.

 

Those of you with similar, any tweaks to share?

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

[Damien Solodow]

It exposes more hardware status information to vCenter. 

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

 

The servers are already here, for what a pair of HDD's cost I went with
that option.

 

Other than allowing for management from SIM and the likes, is there any
benefit in installing the HP bundle?

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: 14 January 2011 20:06
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

 

If you're using ESXi (which you definitely should) you can purchase a
supported USB key or SD Card from HP to install vSphere on. This will
save you the money and potential grief of hard drives, array
controllers, etc.

 

Also make sure to install the HP NMI driver and ESXi offline bundle
(both can be done via Update Manager)

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: vSphere on HP Proliant G7 Series

 

Just looking at this -
http://cavarpe.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/hp-hardware-documentation/

 

I have 2 DL380 G7's that I'm in the process of configuring/testing that
will be running vSphere 4.1.

 

Those of you with similar, any tweaks to share?

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Bob Fronk]

Assuming a windows environment, Shadow copy could help here too.  The interval 
would have to be more frequent, but would allow user restoration to multiple 
versions.

BF

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

Ah now that sounds perfect.  I don't think the issue is that a nightly backup 
is insufficient longer term, just that the owners of the document (it's being 
updated all day) are twitchy if someone has finger trouble or it corrupts 
itself about how recent a version they could revert to/how much data they'd 
lose.

Thanks!
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: 14 January 2011 19:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?


Another option is SyncBack.  It has versioning built into it.
On Jan 14, 2011 10:05 AM, "Bob Fronk" 
mailto:b...@btrfronk.com>> wrote:
> Second Copy will do this. Also will run as a service.
>
> BF
>
>
>
> Bob Fronk
> b...@btrfronk.com>
>
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Backing up an important file every X minutes?
>
> Scheduled task with RoboCopy is exactly how we've done it.
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> Roland Schorr & Tower
> www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com>
>
> From: Paul Hutchings 
> [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 07:15
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Backing up an important file every X minutes?
>
> Assuming you didn't want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a "proper" 
> backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a critical file 
> every X minutes?
>
> A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious if 
> there are any smarter/better options.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Windows 2008 SBS RWW

[Harry Singh]

All:

We just assumed support duty for a small law firm which has a single server
Windows 2008 SBS Server setup with a Remote Web Workplace website. That site
is operational but a request came in to connect an IPad to RWW. Obviously,
through a cursory search, the IPad doesn't natively support RWW.

My question is, with only one 1 public IP available, how can I setup the
IPAD for a few staff members to connect to their workstations via RDP or
VNC? I know there is the Logmein Ignition route, but looking for a
cost-effective (read: free) way first, if possible.

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RE: Windows 2008 SBS RWW

[greg.sweers]

Setup the desktop inside the office they need to connect to with a static IP.  
Change its RDP listening port to something like 3390, port forward 3390 to this 
IP and then setup the RDP app on the IPAD to connect to 3390.

I don’t know what RDP app on the IPAD will allow you to specify ports for RDP 
if any, you will want to check around on this.

In windows you just add a :3390 to the end of the Server IP you are connecting 
to.

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From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 SBS RWW

All:

We just assumed support duty for a small law firm which has a single server 
Windows 2008 SBS Server setup with a Remote Web Workplace website. That site is 
operational but a request came in to connect an IPad to RWW. Obviously, through 
a cursory search, the IPad doesn't natively support RWW.

My question is, with only one 1 public IP available, how can I setup the IPAD 
for a few staff members to connect to their workstations via RDP or VNC? I know 
there is the Logmein Ignition route, but looking for a cost-effective (read: 
free) way first, if possible.

Best Regards,


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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Jim Holmgren]

James,

My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR
plan.  Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would
change your domain level at this point.

 

If you need help - I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.
:)

 

Jim

 

 

Jim Holmgren

Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services

XLHealth Corporation

The Warehouse at Camden Yards

351 West Camden Street, Suite 100

Baltimore, MD 21201 

410.625.2200 (main)

443.524.8573 (direct)

443-506.2400 (cell)

www.xlhealth.com

 

 

 

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

 

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very
serious flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our
data centre, it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to
save some components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it
got too high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat
and some roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high
water is some what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is
higher in the racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark
room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

 

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under
way but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means
retrieving data from tapes and building servers from scratch.

 

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out
with some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

 

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised
WAN and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack
space, and have rented VM's and disk space.

 

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The
two DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C:
drive and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's
out in our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

 

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running
2008R2 (take the opportunity to upgrade it).  

Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is
at 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?

Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

 

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

 

James.

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Re: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

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I use GoodSync.  It can be a service as well as keep versions.  It can
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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Hill]

Thanks Jim.

I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but
was wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the
domain level at 2008.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren wrote:

>  James,
>
> My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR
> plan.  Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change
> your domain level at this point.
>
>
>
> If you need help – I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Holmgren
>
> Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
>
> XLHealth Corporation
>
> The Warehouse at Camden Yards
>
> 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
>
> Baltimore, MD 21201
>
> 410.625.2200 (main)
>
> 443.524.8573 (direct)
>
> 443-506.2400 (cell)
>
> www.xlhealth.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
> flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
> it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
> high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some
> roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
> what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
> racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with
> water is well...uncomforting.
>
>
>
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
> but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
> from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>
>
>
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>
>
>
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
> and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
> and have rented VM's and disk space.
>
>
>
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>
>
>
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
>
> Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at
> 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
>
> Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
>
>
>
> Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
>
>
>
> James.
>
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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Michael B. Smith]

Yes.

But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group catalog 
server, and then delete the old servers from AD.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498

Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the schema, 
but you don't have to update the forest or domain functional levels.

My thoughts are with you. Good luck!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Thanks Jim.

I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but was 
wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the domain 
level at 2008.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com>> wrote:
James,
My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR plan.  
Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change your domain 
level at this point.

If you need help - I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)

Jim


Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com



From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious 
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre, it 
ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some components 
thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.  A very 
critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof removal.  
Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what depressing.  
Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being 
powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as possible. 
 Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way but nothing 
was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data from tapes and 
building servers from scratch.

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with some 
questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN and 
Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space, and 
have rented VM's and disk space.

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two DC's 
we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive and system 
state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in our stores that 
are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2 (take 
the opportunity to upgrade it).
Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at 
2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

James.

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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Christopher Bodnar]

Ugh. what an awful mess you are in. Although, I would like to see some 
pictures of the data center as you described it. Good poster shot for DR 
planning.

Schema should have already been modified since original post indicated he 
already had both 2008 and 2008 R2 domain controllers. 

Are any of the remote location domain controllers global catalog servers? 


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
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Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:   "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   01/14/2011 04:44 PM
Subject:RE: So...our data centre is under water



Yes.
 
But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group 
catalog server, and then delete the old servers from AD.
 
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498
 
Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the 
schema, but you don’t have to update the forest or domain functional 
levels.
 
My thoughts are with you. Good luck!
 
Regards,
 
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 
From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water
 
Thanks Jim.
 
I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but 
was wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with 
the domain level at 2008.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren  
wrote:
James,
My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR 
plan.  Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change 
your domain level at this point.
 
If you need help – I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz. :)
 
Jim
 
 
Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201 
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com
 
 
 
From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water
 
If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very 
serious flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our 
data centre, it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save 
some components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got 
too high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and 
some roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is 
some what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in 
the racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling 
up with water is well...uncomforting.
 
We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as 
possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under 
way but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving 
data from tapes and building servers from scratch.
 
I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with 
some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
 
We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN 
and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack 
space, and have rented VM's and disk space.
 
We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two 
DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive 
and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in 
our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
 
Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2 
(take the opportunity to upgrade it). 
Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is 
at 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
 
Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
 
James.
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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Miller Bonnie L .]

As someone currently contemplating updating our forest/domain level, I'll say 
it can be done as we are actively running FSMO roles on a WS08 R2 DC with 
Forest/Domain levels still at WS03, but your schema might need extending first.

I can only imagine how awful this must be, and I have been told I have a pretty 
good imagination-hang in there.  How many servers did you lose altogether?

-Bonnie

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Thanks Jim.

I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but was 
wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the domain 
level at 2008.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com>> wrote:
James,
My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR plan.  
Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change your domain 
level at this point.

If you need help - I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)

Jim


Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com



From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious 
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre, it 
ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some components 
thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.  A very 
critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof removal.  
Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what depressing.  
Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being 
powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as possible. 
 Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way but nothing 
was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data from tapes and 
building servers from scratch.

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with some 
questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN and 
Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space, and 
have rented VM's and disk space.

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two DC's 
we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive and system 
state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in our stores that 
are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2 (take 
the opportunity to upgrade it).
Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at 
2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

James.

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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Hill]

Thanks Michael  Great advice as always from you.

We already have R2 servers no schema changes necessary.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  Yes.
>
>
>
> But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group catalog
> server, and then delete the old servers from AD.
>
>
>
> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498
>
>
>
> Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the
> schema, but you don’t have to update the forest or domain functional levels.
>
>
>
> My thoughts are with you. Good luck!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> Thanks Jim.
>
>
>
> I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but
> was wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the
> domain level at 2008.
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
> wrote:
>
> James,
>
> My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR
> plan.  Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change
> your domain level at this point.
>
>
>
> If you need help – I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Holmgren
>
> Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
>
> XLHealth Corporation
>
> The Warehouse at Camden Yards
>
> 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
>
> Baltimore, MD 21201
>
> 410.625.2200 (main)
>
> 443.524.8573 (direct)
>
> 443-506.2400 (cell)
>
> www.xlhealth.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
> flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
> it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
> high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some
> roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
> what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
> racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with
> water is well...uncomforting.
>
>
>
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
> but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
> from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>
>
>
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>
>
>
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
> and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
> and have rented VM's and disk space.
>
>
>
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>
>
>
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
>
> Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at
> 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
>
> Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
>
>
>
> Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
>
>
>
> James.
>
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> ~   ~
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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Hill]

Yes they are so that is good.

I don't have any pics of the DC under water, we were too busy pulling out
equipment that was dry.  I do have pics of rescuing some servers by boat and
using rope to lower them down from the roof to the boat.  The water was over
12 feet above ground level at that point in time.  As a quick communications
tool we actually used Facebook (as all our internatl stuff was down).  There
are plenty of pictures on it
http://www.facebook.com/superamart#!/album.php?aid=37731&id=177173705654077

We may be able to get back in soon as the water level is dropping.  So we'll
get some "after" pics of the DC.

James.


On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Christopher Bodnar <
christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:

> Ugh. what an awful mess you are in. Although, I would like to see some
> pictures of the data center as you described it. Good poster shot for DR
> planning.
>
> Schema should have already been modified since original post indicated he
> already had both 2008 and 2008 R2 domain controllers.
>
> Are any of the remote location domain controllers global catalog servers?
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
> Technical Support III
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
> Phone: 610-807-6459
> Fax: 610-807-6003
>
>
>
> From:"Michael B. Smith" 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:01/14/2011 04:44 PM
> Subject:RE: So...our data centre is under water
> --
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
> But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group catalog
> server, and then delete the old servers from AD.
>
> See 
> *http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498*
>
> Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the
> schema, but you don’t have to update the forest or domain functional levels.
>
> My thoughts are with you. Good luck!
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com ] *
> Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM*
> To:* NT System Admin Issues*
> Subject:* Re: So...our data centre is under water
>
> Thanks Jim.
>
> I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but
> was wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the
> domain level at 2008.
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
> <*jholmg...@xlhealth.com*>
> wrote:
> James,
> My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR
> plan.  Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change
> your domain level at this point.
>
> If you need help – I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)
>
> Jim
>
>
> Jim Holmgren
> Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
> XLHealth Corporation
> The Warehouse at Camden Yards
> 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
> Baltimore, MD 21201
> 410.625.2200 (main)
> 443.524.8573 (direct)
> 443-506.2400 (cell)
> *www.xlhealth.com* 
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:*hill.ja...@gmail.com* ]
> *
> Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM*
> To:* NT System Admin Issues*
> Subject:* So...our data centre is under water
>
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
> flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
> it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.
>  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof
> removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what
> depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and
> dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is
> well...uncomforting.
>
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
> but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
> from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
> and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
> and have rented VM's and disk space.
>
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
> G

RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Coleman, Hunter]

If you don't have any R2 domain controllers, and you haven't otherwise run 
adprep /forestprep, then you will be looking at necessary schema changes.

In general, I'd say that a disaster recovery is not the time to be making 
infrastructure changes like this. You have enough work ahead of you as it is, 
so why complicate things further?

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Thanks Michael  Great advice as always from you.

We already have R2 servers no schema changes necessary.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
Yes.

But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group catalog 
server, and then delete the old servers from AD.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498

Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the schema, 
but you don't have to update the forest or domain functional levels.

My thoughts are with you. Good luck!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Thanks Jim.

I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but was 
wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the domain 
level at 2008.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com>> wrote:
James,
My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR plan.  
Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change your domain 
level at this point.

If you need help - I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)

Jim


Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com



From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious 
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre, it 
ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some components 
thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.  A very 
critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof removal.  
Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what depressing.  
Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being 
powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as possible. 
 Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way but nothing 
was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data from tapes and 
building servers from scratch.

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with some 
questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN and 
Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space, and 
have rented VM's and disk space.

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two DC's 
we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive and system 
state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in our stores that 
are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2 (take 
the opportunity to upgrade it).
Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at 
2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

James.

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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Hill]

We probably lost about 60 servers.  Most of which were VM's running on two
HP Blade Centres and a HP EVA (San).

We lost our entire Head Office and one of our stores as well.  So offices
and equipment for over 100 people.  We have about 1000 staff all up.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Miller Bonnie L. <
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:

>  As someone currently contemplating updating our forest/domain level, I’ll
> say it can be done as we are actively running FSMO roles on a WS08 R2 DC
> with Forest/Domain levels still at WS03, but your schema might need
> extending first.
>
>
>
> I can only imagine how awful this must be, and I have been told I have a
> pretty good imagination—hang in there.  How many servers did you lose
> altogether?
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 1:41 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> Thanks Jim.
>
>
>
> I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but
> was wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the
> domain level at 2008.
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
> wrote:
>
> James,
>
> My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR
> plan.  Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change
> your domain level at this point.
>
>
>
> If you need help – I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Holmgren
>
> Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
>
> XLHealth Corporation
>
> The Warehouse at Camden Yards
>
> 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
>
> Baltimore, MD 21201
>
> 410.625.2200 (main)
>
> 443.524.8573 (direct)
>
> 443-506.2400 (cell)
>
> www.xlhealth.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
> flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
> it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
> high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some
> roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
> what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
> racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with
> water is well...uncomforting.
>
>
>
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
> but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
> from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>
>
>
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>
>
>
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
> and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
> and have rented VM's and disk space.
>
>
>
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>
>
>
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
>
> Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at
> 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
>
> Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
>
>
>
> Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
>
>
>
> James.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Coleman, Hunter]

Sorry, I missed that part in the OP about already having some R2 DCs...

From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:hcole...@mt.gov]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: So...our data centre is under water

If you don't have any R2 domain controllers, and you haven't otherwise run 
adprep /forestprep, then you will be looking at necessary schema changes.

In general, I'd say that a disaster recovery is not the time to be making 
infrastructure changes like this. You have enough work ahead of you as it is, 
so why complicate things further?

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Thanks Michael  Great advice as always from you.

We already have R2 servers no schema changes necessary.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
Yes.

But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group catalog 
server, and then delete the old servers from AD.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498

Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the schema, 
but you don't have to update the forest or domain functional levels.

My thoughts are with you. Good luck!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Thanks Jim.

I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but was 
wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the domain 
level at 2008.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com>> wrote:
James,
My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR plan.  
Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change your domain 
level at this point.

If you need help - I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)

Jim


Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com



From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious 
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre, it 
ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some components 
thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.  A very 
critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof removal.  
Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what depressing.  
Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being 
powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as possible. 
 Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way but nothing 
was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data from tapes and 
building servers from scratch.

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with some 
questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN and 
Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space, and 
have rented VM's and disk space.

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two DC's 
we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive and system 
state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in our stores that 
are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2 (take 
the opportunity to upgrade it).
Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at 
2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

James.

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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Hill]

As mentioned already have R2 DC's so no changes to schema needed.  I
understand your viewpoint and am adopting this for pretty much everything
else.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Coleman, Hunter  wrote:

>  If you don’t have any R2 domain controllers, and you haven’t otherwise
> run adprep /forestprep, then you will be looking at necessary schema
> changes.
>
>
>
> In general, I’d say that a disaster recovery is not the time to be making
> infrastructure changes like this. You have enough work ahead of you as it
> is, so why complicate things further?
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 2:57 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> Thanks Michael  Great advice as always from you.
>
>
>
> We already have R2 servers no schema changes necessary.
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group catalog
> server, and then delete the old servers from AD.
>
>
>
> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498
>
>
>
> Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the
> schema, but you don’t have to update the forest or domain functional levels.
>
>
>
> My thoughts are with you. Good luck!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> Thanks Jim.
>
>
>
> I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but
> was wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the
> domain level at 2008.
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
> wrote:
>
> James,
>
> My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR
> plan.  Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change
> your domain level at this point.
>
>
>
> If you need help – I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Holmgren
>
> Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
>
> XLHealth Corporation
>
> The Warehouse at Camden Yards
>
> 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
>
> Baltimore, MD 21201
>
> 410.625.2200 (main)
>
> 443.524.8573 (direct)
>
> 443-506.2400 (cell)
>
> www.xlhealth.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
> flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
> it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
> high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some
> roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
> what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
> racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with
> water is well...uncomforting.
>
>
>
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
> but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
> from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>
>
>
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>
>
>
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
> and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
> and have rented VM's and disk space.
>
>
>
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>
>
>
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
>
> Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at
> 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
>
> Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
>
>
>
> Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
>
>
>
> James.
>
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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Maglinger, Paul]

Sorry to hear about it James.  Good luck on your DR effort!

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Yes they are so that is good.

I don't have any pics of the DC under water, we were too busy pulling out 
equipment that was dry.  I do have pics of rescuing some servers by boat and 
using rope to lower them down from the roof to the boat.  The water was over 12 
feet above ground level at that point in time.  As a quick communications tool 
we actually used Facebook (as all our internatl stuff was down).  There are 
plenty of pictures on it 
http://www.facebook.com/superamart#!/album.php?aid=37731&id=177173705654077

We may be able to get back in soon as the water level is dropping.  So we'll 
get some "after" pics of the DC.

James.


On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Christopher Bodnar 
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>> wrote:
Ugh. what an awful mess you are in. Although, I would like to see some pictures 
of the data center as you described it. Good poster shot for DR planning.

Schema should have already been modified since original post indicated he 
already had both 2008 and 2008 R2 domain controllers.

Are any of the remote location domain controllers global catalog servers?


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:"Michael B. Smith" 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:01/14/2011 04:44 PM
Subject:RE: So...our data centre is under water




Yes.

But your first step is to seize the FSMO roles on an existing group catalog 
server, and then delete the old servers from AD.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498

Then you can build a new 2008 R2 server. You WILL have to extend the schema, 
but you don't have to update the forest or domain functional levels.

My thoughts are with you. Good luck!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: So...our data centre is under water

Thanks Jim.

I didn't want to change the domain level.  Wanted to leave it at 2008 but was 
wondering if the FSMO roles can be installed on a 2008R2 server with the domain 
level at 2008.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jim Holmgren 
mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com>> wrote:
James,
My thoughts are with you as we are in the middle of implementing our DR plan.  
Given all that you have to deal with, I am not sure I would change your domain 
level at this point.

If you need help - I do have a valid US passport and relatives in Oz.:)

Jim


Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com



From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious 
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre, it 
ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some components 
thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.  A very 
critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof removal.  
Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what depressing.  
Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being 
powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as possible. 
 Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way but nothing 
was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data from tapes and 
building servers from scratch.

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with some 
questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN and 
Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space, and 
have rented VM's and disk space.

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two DC's 
we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive and system 
state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in our stores that 
are high and dry.  What I wo

Restrict bandwidth on Cisco 2950?

[Jonathan]

I've googled and tried various snippets of code and this doesn't seem to be
working

I need to limit bandwidth on a copper port on a catalyst 2950G (Enhanced
Image 12.1 IOS) to 45 Mbps.

Anyone know definitively if this is possible, and if so, how?

Thanks,

Jon

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RE: Restrict bandwidth on Cisco 2950?

[Weatherford, Chad]

Hey Jonathan, Try changing your search to '2950G bandwidth throttle'. I
google'd that and found lots of hits.

 

Chad

 

From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 16:35
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Restrict bandwidth on Cisco 2950?

 

I've googled and tried various snippets of code and this doesn't seem to
be working

I need to limit bandwidth on a copper port on a catalyst 2950G (Enhanced
Image 12.1 IOS) to 45 Mbps.

Anyone know definitively if this is possible, and if so, how?

Thanks,

Jon

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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Jacob]

Photos?

 

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

 

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.
A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof
removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what
depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and
dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is
well...uncomforting.

 

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
from tapes and building servers from scratch.

 

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

 

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
and have rented VM's and disk space.

 

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

 

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
(take the opportunity to upgrade it).  

Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at
2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?

Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

 

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

 

James.

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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Brian Desmond]

Hi-

So if I follow you still have R2 DCs elsewhere in your domain which are online? 
If so do not use your backups. Seize all of the FSMO roles to one of those DCs, 
do a metadata cleanup of the two DCs which were lost, and then build fresh 
machines in this recovery site. Dcpromo the fresh machines up. You can transfer 
the FSMOs back as appropriate.

When you get your now flooded site back, I'd look at getting some water sensors 
in there which are tied in to the power system. Those PDUs should have a kill 
switch when there's sufficient water in the floor. My understanding from 
tangential experience with this sort of mishap is that typically gear that gets 
wet is OK if it is not powered up and allowed to dry out before it comes back 
up.

--brian



Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious 
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre, it 
ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some components 
thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.  A very 
critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof removal.  
Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what depressing.  
Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being 
powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as possible. 
 Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way but nothing 
was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data from tapes and 
building servers from scratch.

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with some 
questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN and 
Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space, and 
have rented VM's and disk space.

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two DC's 
we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive and system 
state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in our stores that 
are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2 (take 
the opportunity to upgrade it).
Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at 
2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

James.

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OT: Humor - who is denying my access

[Blackman, Woody]

Bill,

When I read your request for help, only one thing came to mind

"Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?" (Courtesy of: 
Steven Wright Quotes)

Best answers to that question are 

My fav:

He was trying to get in touch with Private Data but if it involves a Major 
Disaster I understand that the Fault lies with General Protection.
Furthermore, if you cannot reboot it may be because of a corrupt Colonel.


From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: who is denying my access

I know this has been mentioned here in the past and is probably chronicled on 
the interwebs too, but I think my google foo is being thwarted by too many 
common terms.

situation:  program is not starting unless run as administrator.
Normally I would just grant full control to domain users for the program's 
install directory.  But this time it isn't working.

How can I tell which file, or directory is thwarting my non-admins?  I thought 
it was pslist or psfile, but either pstools isn't the answer or I'm not looking 
in the right spot.

Any Help?

Thanks,
-Bill



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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Kerr]

Wellgood luck with thatseriously.

James

On 1/14/2011 4:36 PM, James Hill wrote:
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very 
> serious flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our 
> data centre, it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to 
> save some components thanks to some knee high walking in water before 
> it got too high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to 
> a boat and some roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee 
> high water is some what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment 
> that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in 
> a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as 
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was 
> under way but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means 
> retrieving data from tapes and building servers from scratch.
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out 
> with some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised 
> WAN and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some 
> rack space, and have rented VM's and disk space.
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The 
> two DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have 
> C: drive and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other 
> DC's out in our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do 
> is:-
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 
> 2008R2 (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
> Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level 
> is at 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
> Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
> Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
> James.
>
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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[Kurt Buff]

We seem to have missed this bullet.

Our AU office is well out of the flood zone for Brisbane (which, from
what I've seen, is the CBD), though one of our employees had to
evacuate his home, and several others were not able to make it to work
because of flooding between home and office.

I'm a bit of underwater at work at the moment myself, though in a
completely metaphorical sense, so I don't know how much I can
contribute to the discussion, but my sympathies, sir, and best of
luck.

Kurt

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 13:36, James Hill  wrote:
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
> flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
> it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
> high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some
> roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
> what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
> racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with
> water is well...uncomforting.
>
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
> but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
> from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
> and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
> and have rented VM's and disk space.
>
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
> Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at
> 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
> Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
>
> Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
>
> James.
>
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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Hill]

Thanks Brian.  Unfortunately most of it was powered on.  We were in the
process of shutting things down but ran out of time.  The water came up so
quickly.

The DC won't be going back in that location.  Too high risk!

We have managed to get onsite today.  The SAN has been pulled out and handed
over to a company that specialises in recovering hardware that's been wet
etc.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Brian Desmond wrote:

>  *Hi-*
>
> * *
>
> *So if I follow you still have R2 DCs elsewhere in your domain which are
> online? If so do not use your backups. Seize all of the FSMO roles to one of
> those DCs, do a metadata cleanup of the two DCs which were lost, and then
> build fresh machines in this recovery site. Dcpromo the fresh machines up.
> You can transfer the FSMOs back as appropriate.*
>
> * *
>
> *When you get your now flooded site back, I’d look at getting some water
> sensors in there which are tied in to the power system. Those PDUs should
> have a kill switch when there’s sufficient water in the floor. My
> understanding from tangential experience with this sort of mishap is that
> typically gear that gets wet is OK if it is not powered up and allowed to
> dry out before it comes back up. *
>
> * *
>
> *--brian*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Brian Desmond*
>
> *br...@briandesmond.com*
>
> * *
>
> *c   – 312.731.3132*
>
> * *
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 3:36 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* So...our data centre is under water
>
>
>
> If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious
> flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre,
> it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
> high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some
> roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
> what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
> racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with
> water is well...uncomforting.
>
>
>
> We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way
> but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data
> from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>
>
>
> I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>
>
>
> We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN
> and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space,
> and have rented VM's and disk space.
>
>
>
> We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>
>
>
> Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
>
> Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at
> 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
>
> Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
>
>
>
> Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
>
>
>
> James.
>
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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[James Hill]

Our office is in the suburb of Oxley which is 20-25 mins drive from the
CBD.  It's just that the media have focssed a lot on the CBD.

Having said that 75% of
Queenslandis
regarded a disaster zone now.  So most of the state has been effected,
not just the capital (Brisbane).

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> We seem to have missed this bullet.
>
> Our AU office is well out of the flood zone for Brisbane (which, from
> what I've seen, is the CBD), though one of our employees had to
> evacuate his home, and several others were not able to make it to work
> because of flooding between home and office.
>
> I'm a bit of underwater at work at the moment myself, though in a
> completely metaphorical sense, so I don't know how much I can
> contribute to the discussion, but my sympathies, sir, and best of
> luck.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 13:36, James Hill  wrote:
> > If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very
> serious
> > flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data
> centre,
> > it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
> > components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
> > high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some
> > roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
> > what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
> > racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up
> with
> > water is well...uncomforting.
> >
> > We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
> > possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under
> way
> > but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving
> data
> > from tapes and building servers from scratch.
> >
> > I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with
> > some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
> >
> > We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised
> WAN
> > and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack
> space,
> > and have rented VM's and disk space.
> >
> > We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two
> > DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive
> > and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in
> > our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
> >
> > Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2
> > (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
> > Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is
> at
> > 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
> > Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
> >
> > Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
> >
> > James.
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RE: So...our data centre is under water

[Bob Fronk]

If there is something you don't have a backup of, don't throw out your drives.  
Data can be recovered from drowned drives.  I sent one to a recovery company a 
few years back.  I cannot recall the name, but they were able to get 90% of the 
data back.

Best of luck to you.

From: James Hill [mailto:hill.ja...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So...our data centre is under water

If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very serious 
flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data centre, it 
ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some components 
thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too high.  A very 
critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and some roof removal.  
Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some what depressing.  
Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the racks(and dry) still being 
powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up with water is well...uncomforting.

We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as possible. 
 Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under way but nothing 
was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving data from tapes and 
building servers from scratch.

I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out with some 
questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.

We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised WAN and 
Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack space, and 
have rented VM's and disk space.

We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The two DC's 
we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C: drive and system 
state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out in our stores that 
are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-

Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running 2008R2 (take 
the opportunity to upgrade it).
Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is at 
2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.

Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.

James.

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Re: So...our data centre is under water

[Kurt Buff]

I have never been in our AU office, but it's in Stafford, which looks
to be about 1/2 hour North of Oxley.

Given that Stafford Heights is not far away, I'll guess that our
office is elevated above the flood plain - the terrain view on Google
Maps seems to confirm this as well.

Kurt

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 16:07, James Hill  wrote:
> Our office is in the suburb of Oxley which is 20-25 mins drive from the
> CBD.  It's just that the media have focssed a lot on the CBD.
>
> Having said that 75% of Queensland is regarded a disaster zone now.  So most
> of the state has been effected, not just the capital (Brisbane).
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> We seem to have missed this bullet.
>>
>> Our AU office is well out of the flood zone for Brisbane (which, from
>> what I've seen, is the CBD), though one of our employees had to
>> evacuate his home, and several others were not able to make it to work
>> because of flooding between home and office.
>>
>> I'm a bit of underwater at work at the moment myself, though in a
>> completely metaphorical sense, so I don't know how much I can
>> contribute to the discussion, but my sympathies, sir, and best of
>> luck.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 13:36, James Hill  wrote:
>> > If you've seen the news you may have heard that we've had some very
>> > serious
>> > flooding here in Brisbane, Australia.  As a result we lost our data
>> > centre,
>> > it ended up being completely under water.  We managed to save some
>> > components thanks to some knee high walking in water before it got too
>> > high.  A very critical server was later rescued thanks to a boat and
>> > some
>> > roof removal.  Walking in to your Data Centre in knee high water is some
>> > what depressing.  Seeing the lights on equipment that is higher in the
>> > racks(and dry) still being powered by the UPS in a dark room filling up
>> > with
>> > water is well...uncomforting.
>> >
>> > We are now in hectic DR mode and are restoring services as quickly as
>> > possible.  Unfortunately we didn't have a DR location(planning was under
>> > way
>> > but nothing was in place) and so a lot of the restore means retrieving
>> > data
>> > from tapes and building servers from scratch.
>> >
>> > I'm in new territory here and so I'm hoping the list can help me out
>> > with
>> > some questions that I know will arise as I work through this mess.
>> >
>> > We have secured space in a nice and dry Data centre and have organised
>> > WAN
>> > and Internet connectivity(although it's not fired up yet), some rack
>> > space,
>> > and have rented VM's and disk space.
>> >
>> > We have a 2008 level domain with a mix of 2008 and 2008 R2 DC's.  The
>> > two
>> > DC's we lost were running 2008 and held the FSMO roles.  We have C:
>> > drive
>> > and system state backups of these.  We have a number of other DC's out
>> > in
>> > our stores that are high and dry.  What I would like to do is:-
>> >
>> > Create a new DC in the new Data Centre with a new name but running
>> > 2008R2
>> > (take the opportunity to upgrade it).
>> > Give it the FSMO roles (is this possible considering the domain level is
>> > at
>> > 2008 but the server would be 2008 R2)?
>> > Clear out the two lost DC's from AD entirely.
>> >
>> > Thoughts, suggestions and messages of sympathy are all welcome.
>> >
>> > James.
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Re: Backing up an important file every X minutes?

[Kurt Buff]

Have you tried

 robocopy /mon

or

 robocopy /mot:x

Kurt

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 06:14, Paul Hutchings  wrote:
> Assuming you didn’t want to shadow copy the whole drive, or run a “proper”
> backup every X minutes, what options have you used to back up a critical
> file every X minutes?
>
>
>
> A scheduled task with a RoboCopy job would probably do it, just curious if
> there are any smarter/better options.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Jonathan]

Swt!
On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
>
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that
has 1 TB or more of RAM
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> Regards,
>
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> Consultant and Exchange MVP
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Jeff Steward]

Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a whopping 32k
to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is moving so
fast...right?

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan  wrote:

> Swt!
> On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> >
> > Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that
> has 1 TB or more of RAM
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >
> >
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Jonathan Link]

No, you're old. :-)

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Jeff Steward  wrote:

> Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a whopping
> 32k to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is moving so
> fast...right?
>
> -Jeff Steward
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan  wrote:
>
>> Swt!
>>   On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith" 
>> wrote:
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
>> >
>> > Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that
>> has 1 TB or more of RAM
>> >
>> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Michael B. Smith
>> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
>> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>> >
>> >
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RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Michael B. Smith]

The first computer I built - in 1978 - had 4 KB of RAM and a 40 character 
hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my money (I was in 
high-school working part time) for a couple of months.

But it put me on the path I still follow today! :)

But yes - you are old.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a whopping 32k to 
use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is moving so fast...right?

-Jeff Steward
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan 
mailto:ncm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Swt!
On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith" 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
>
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that has 
> 1 TB or more of RAM
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Sean Martin]

So...how do you install the hotfix if the OS can't be installed? Pull out some 
RAM?

- Sean



On Jan 14, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> 
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that has 
> 1 TB or more of RAM
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> 
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Jeff Steward]

Thanks for bursting my bubble :)  Go Fortran!

I also did some Z80 microprocessor stuff in school using hex input keypads
and DIP switches.  I have to credit DOOM and sound cards for getting me to
move from Engineering to IT.  I had some background in computers and
programming languages but trying to get a SoundBlaster 'compatible' sound
card to play sound in DOOM on a 286 really got me to sink my teeth into
operating systems and the foibles of hardware/software/drivers.

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  The first computer I built – in 1978 – had 4 KB of RAM and a 40 character
> hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my money (I was
> in high-school working part time) for a couple of months.
>
>
>
> But it put me on the path I still follow today! J
>
>
>
> But yes – you are old.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install
>
>
>
> Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a whopping
> 32k to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is moving so
> fast...right?
>
>
>
> -Jeff Steward
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan  wrote:
>
> Swt!
>
> On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> >
> > Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that
> has 1 TB or more of RAM
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >
> >
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

In 1978 I remember a really big blizzard, jumping off the roofs of houses
into snow piles, and snowmobiling - oh, and best of all, no school for a
WEEK straight because they couldnt clear the roads (in Cambridge, MA).

I was 6, and that's my memory highlight!

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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  The first computer I built – in 1978 – had 4 KB of RAM and a 40 character
> hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my money (I was
> in high-school working part time) for a couple of months.
>
>
>
> But it put me on the path I still follow today! J
>
>
>
> But yes – you are old.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install
>
>
>
> Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a whopping
> 32k to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is moving so
> fast...right?
>
>
>
> -Jeff Steward
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan  wrote:
>
> Swt!
>
> On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> >
> > Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that
> has 1 TB or more of RAM
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >
> >
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Daniel Rodriguez]

I had a Commodore VIC-20 back in 83.

Yeah, we're old.  ;)
 On Jan 14, 2011 9:56 PM, "Micheal Espinola Jr" 
wrote:
> In 1978 I remember a really big blizzard, jumping off the roofs of houses
> into snow piles, and snowmobiling - oh, and best of all, no school for a
> WEEK straight because they couldnt clear the roads (in Cambridge, MA).
>
> I was 6, and that's my memory highlight!
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
>> The first computer I built – in 1978 – had 4 KB of RAM and a 40 character
>> hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my money (I
was
>> in high-school working part time) for a couple of months.
>>
>>
>>
>> But it put me on the path I still follow today! J
>>
>>
>>
>> But yes – you are old.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install
>>
>>
>>
>> Holy smokes! 1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a whopping
>> 32k to use. It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is moving so
>> fast...right?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Jeff Steward
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan  wrote:
>>
>> Swt!
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith" 
wrote:
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
>> >
>> > Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer
that
>> has 1 TB or more of RAM
>> >
>> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Michael B. Smith
>> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
>> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Wake on LAN options

[Terry Dickson]

We use a product from Aquilatech.com  Not sure how robust it is for your 
purposes, but it works for me.

From: Free, Bob [r...@pge.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wake on LAN options

http://www.1e.com/softwareproducts/nightwatchman/index.aspx is used on 
workstations here, pretty full featured product suite used in some fairly large 
enterprises. Combined with some of their other solutions, or ones you may 
already have, I believe that it could accomplish just what you want.
 I don’t know that much about it because my only interaction with it is to go 
to a web page to power up the machine in my office when I’m not there :)

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wake on LAN options

Folks,

For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use?  Our workstation 
management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan 
doesn't have any features other than "on".  I recall seeing some comments on 
other products (perhaps not on this list).  I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, 
updates before staff arrive.  It would be nice if there were some sort of agent 
product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan.




Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528

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RE: AppAssure Replay4

[greg.sweers]

We have replaced all backup software we use at all locations with AppAssure, it 
just works.  We were on it before they standardized event logs and some other 
tweaks, but we have used it to do backups of servers, exchange, sql, sharepoint 
to flat files, to standby VM's and they just come up easily.  Easy configs, 
easy restores... It just works.

Replication is done by installing the core on another server at a remote 
location and pushing to the repository that the core their controls.  You can 
then push it to a VM, physical box..  Its slick..

My guys have worked directly with the techs there and its great.

Datto Backup also uses AppAssure on their appliances and while I have not used 
Datto, I have heard good things from them as well.

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: AppAssure Replay4

Does anyone use it? Anyone know how it compares to its competitors, for price, 
features, and usability? It would be for a small business, single server, W2K3, 
files, and sql express 2005 (130MB data). We are also interested in failover to 
a local older server (does not have to be automatic, just simple and/or easy), 
and storing an image of the server offsite.


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Abide International Inc.
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Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Richard Stovall]

Some random dude did win the Mega Millions lotto the other day...

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
>
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that
> has 1 TB or more of RAM
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
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RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Ralph Smith]

Crap.  I remember that snowstorm, only I was in my senior year at
college.  Now I feel old.



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install


In 1978 I remember a really big blizzard, jumping off the roofs of
houses into snow piles, and snowmobiling - oh, and best of all, no
school for a WEEK straight because they couldnt clear the roads (in
Cambridge, MA).

I was 6, and that's my memory highlight!

--
ME2






On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:


The first computer I built - in 1978 - had 4 KB of RAM and a 40
character hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my
money (I was in high-school working part time) for a couple of months.

 

But it put me on the path I still follow today! :-)

 

But yes - you are old.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to
install

 

Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a
whopping 32k to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is
moving so fast...right?

 

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan 
wrote:

Swt!

On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"
 wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> 
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a
computer that has 1 TB or more of RAM
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
hog! ~
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RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Ray]

The blizzard of 77 in the Buffalo area was fun.  I was a senior in college
then.  The next year it happened again, and it wasn't so much fun.   So I
moved to Arizona. 

 

Now who's old..

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

 

Crap.  I remember that snowstorm, only I was in my senior year at college.
Now I feel old.

 

  _  

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

In 1978 I remember a really big blizzard, jumping off the roofs of houses
into snow piles, and snowmobiling - oh, and best of all, no school for a
WEEK straight because they couldnt clear the roads (in Cambridge, MA).

I was 6, and that's my memory highlight!

--
ME2

 

 





On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael B. Smith 
wrote:

The first computer I built - in 1978 - had 4 KB of RAM and a 40 character
hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my money (I was
in high-school working part time) for a couple of months.

 

But it put me on the path I still follow today! J

 

But yes - you are old.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

 

Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a whopping 32k
to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is moving so
fast...right?

 

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan  wrote:

Swt!

On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> 
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a computer that
has 1 TB or more of RAM
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Office help

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 14 Jan 2011 at 11:32, C.E. Gene Connor  wrote:

> Question #1
> We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a 
> place for them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a 
> newer version of word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite 
> understand how to fix this for her and them.
> 
> I did however find this 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B347
> 0-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en
> 
> Is this fix suppose to be installedon the newer machine "ones that fill 
> them in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't 
> want to screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then 
> I do.

The "Compatibility Pack" allows OLDER versions of Office, like Office 2000 and 
Office XP and your Office 2003, which don't "understand" the newer XML formats 
of .docX, .xlsX, etcX., to open the XML-formatted documents from Office 2007 
and newer.  If your wife is using Office 2003, the default "Save" format is the 
older .doc so this isn't the problem.  Sounds like a bogus complaint to me.

What do you mean by "filled in"?  Can you post a sample document somewhere with 
a more detailed explanation?

> Qusetion # 2
> Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have 
> installed foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be 
> able to edit & design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you 
> all recommend as a free or low priced pdf editor.

Use your favorite word-processor, then "Print" the file to a PDF using one of 
the many free PDF-printers like PDFCreator, CutePDF, etc.

To convert the PDF in a word-processing document, open it, "Select All", Copy, 
then open a new document in your WP and "Paste" everything.  *_Most_* of the 
formatting, except maybe some fancy stuff, should come through.

HTH

A



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