RE: Exchange 2007 Meeting room resources
Bumping this mail! I have a requirement for a number of users who will able to overwrite the existing meetings in a particular meeting room. Does anyone know if this is possible? All the meeting room resources will be set to -AutomateProcessing AutoAccept From: Fergal O'Connell [mailto:foconn...@curamsoftware.com] Sent: 17 August 2011 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 Meeting room resources Hi Folks, Just a quick couple of questions about Meeting Room resources Exchange 2007 SP3 Outlook 2007SP3\Outlook 2010 * Can you specify that a specific group of users can over write existing booking in a meeting room? * When a user leaves is there any way that the meetings that this user created can be flagged or triggered so that the Exchange Admin can delete or action the meeting? * By default the reoccurring meeting has a maximum of 180 days - what happens then to all the reoccurring meetings? Do they just end. Can this be flagged so that the organizer has the option of re-creating the reoccurring meeting? Date is listed on the meeting request. I can also set -EnforceSchedulingHorizon $false to that will allow the no end date option on reoccurring meetings. Fergal O'Connell The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended addressee please contact the sender and dispose of this e-mail. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended addressee please contact the sender and dispose of this e-mail. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
There you go again, confusing *your* needs with the needs of the vast majority of consumers (both corporate and personal) Smartphones are also inhibited when it comes to content creation. Doesn't appear to be stopping their momentum in any way: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379665,00.asp Even if the views you expressed were true for every single techie on the planet (and, I assure you that they are not), it would still be dwarfed by the vast majority of people that populate the earth, have disposable income, and are not techies. Also, new use cases will always spring up once devices of a certain form factor gain some traction. It's coming... you can lead, or you can follow, but it is coming to an office near you -- and soon. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I strongly disagree. The ability to manipulate content is a very big issue, which is why a keyboard is so very important. IMNSHO, a keyboard is even more important than a pointing device, because it allows one to express in words. The tablet paradigm (if I can use such high-falutin' words) is to transform the people into little more than passive consumers. Reading is fundamental (to coin a phrase), but computers are so very much more useful than mere output devices. Sure, as a simple adjunct to a PC a tablet has some uses, and at a cheap enough price I'll consider getting one, but it's a fundamentally crippled device. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 20:52, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Very well. iPhone thread. On point. Books are content. The ability to manipulate the content isn't the issue. Being able to deliver it easily is. That being said I'm writing this response lying flat on my back in bed because I wanted to check my mail before turning in. Do all that on a PC under the same conditions and we can talk. On Monday, August 22, 2011, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Again, you're largely extrapolating a personal preference into a global phenomenon. There are a variety of tools, including Swype, which exist to make it easy to post long documents if you really need to, from a device like a smart phone, much less a tablet. Your personal preference does not indicate viability, nor will it inhibit adoption. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid via Swype On Aug 23, 2011 11:51 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: And to anyone who needs to express thoughts to others beyond the silliness that is 'u gng show night' with any regularity. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:03, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. * To you. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
*Only if you can afford them all.* No one said that any single individual needed to own the entire ecosystem. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full “computer”, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There’s room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. Only if you can afford them all. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
*We are creating far more than we ever used to though* I hesitate to call much of that content *creation*. At best, many people are pushing around content to lots of other people made by only a few people. Just take this list, for example. The growth in traffic is attributable to a small number of subscribers, on the whole, and this growth is consumed by a much larger group. No matter what the growth of content, the ratio of consumers to producers is not shrinking appreciably, even if you count - pseudo producers. Add to that, the tools for creation and distribution are becoming more sophisticated and yet simpler to use, that they are being used on different devices than before. *Social networking is a big driver of this. * And think of how many people manage their social media from their smartphones... http://www.telecomlead.com/inner-page-details.php?id=1596block= * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.auwrote: We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. ** ** Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. ** ** ** ** *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. -- *From: *Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. -- *From: *James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** And to me. The backspace key is my friend! *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. * To you. *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:** ** The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
I don't either...At least, not for a few more days. :) I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device. But, it could easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a laptop that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern *might* favor such a device. We'll see. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet. ** ** I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a compelling use for them. ** ** -sc ** ** *From:* James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. ** ** Horses for courses. ** ** *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. ** ** The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. ** ** -sc ** ** *From:* James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. ** ** Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. ** ** ** ** *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. -- *From: *Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. -- *From: *James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** And to me. The backspace key is my friend! *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. * To you. *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:** ** The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
There's more verbal support against dismissing tablets as a viable computing device for many people -- and businesses. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:40 AM, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.auwrote: Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. ** ** Horses for courses. ** ** *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. ** ** The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. ** ** -sc ** ** *From:* James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. ** ** Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. ** ** ** ** *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. -- *From: *Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. -- *From: *James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** And to me. The backspace key is my friend! *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. * To you. *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:** ** The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was
RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...
I know I'm not following best practice, but my Hyper-V hosts are running Datacenter Ed. and are my DCs. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tue 8/23/2011 7:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... If you are down, you call them and tell them you are down and that it is a business critical event. I don't know what the fee for that is, but you are supposed to get a callback in 30 minutes 24x7x365. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [Microsoft support] Is it me... ..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other I get support times of 6a-6pm. https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847 I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC it needed to talk to! Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
*Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop,* You may not have noticed, but laptop sales have long eclipsed desktop sales, even though desktops remain capable of much more power than laptops, particularly at the same price points. - http://www.techshout.com/laptops/2008/24/laptop-sales-overtake-desktop-pc-sales/ - http://news.techworld.com/sme/3227696/desktop-and-laptop-sales-to-grow-this-year/ Power is not the only consideration in a computing purchase, and is often not even the *primary *consideration. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: My point is that it's important to have the most capable device first. Anything else should come thereafter. As a much less capable device, a tablet is a luxury, and should not replace a computer. Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop, and for a company a desktop should not supplant a server where a server is needed. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:18, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Many such devices are cheaper than a computer with its all-important keyboard. So what is your point? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full “computer”, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There’s room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. Only if you can afford them all. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Cisco VPN Router?
No. If you already have the Juniper device, and IPSEC tunnel can easily be setup between the two. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote: I’ve not dealt with any Cisco kit for a long time. If we want to create a site-to-site VPN tunnel to another location that used Cisco kit to terminate the connection, is there any benefit in going with a Cisco device vs. a Juniper? ** ** I’ve not done too much with site to site VPN’s but my understanding is that whilst the implementation and terminology may vary between manufacturers, the underlying protocols should be compatible? Thanks, Paul -- *MIRA Ltd* ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
O From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Aug 24 00:00:59 2011 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Seriously and demonstrably wrong. He types from his iPad. I wouldn't write a novel, short story or essay on it but I've written all but two of my replies to you from thi iPad. On Tuesday, August 23, 2011, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: And to anyone who needs to express thoughts to others beyond the silliness that is 'u gng show night' with any regularity. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:03, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. To you. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service
Yes what Sherry said, quit insulting me by saying I'm in Dallas! -) From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service Actually, technically, he's in Fort Worth. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service A - You're in Dallas. B - You added a comparison to ATT. :) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, John Leto jo...@colonialsavings.commailto:jo...@colonialsavings.com wrote: We've had excellent luck with TW Telecom especially compared to ATT. We are based in the Dallas Fort Worth area but have branches across the country. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service You're forcing us to compare between TWTC and Comcurst? Ouch. Run far away from TWTC. Run far away from Comcurst -- even for their so-called business class service (with its general lack of SLAs the last time I looked) Do you have any other option? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Robert LeBlanc robert.lebl...@aanmpc.commailto:robert.lebl...@aanmpc.com wrote: Howdy folks, Can anyone give any insight (good and bad) to Comcasts Business Class internet service. Our service agreement with TWtelecom ends in a few months and it seems that Comcast can blow TW's prices out of the water. But then again it's Comcast and since they don't offer an SLA in their agreement and some things I've heard in the past such as oversubscribing, outages, bandwidth speed dropping, etc concerns me. We may just use it as a backup service but have talked about replacing our primary service with it. We are a relatively small shop and operate now with a 4Mb up and down with a 1.5 DSL as backup that also handles wireless. We are looking at Comcasts 22Mb/2Mb service. Thanks for any input and feel free to contact off list as well. Oh yeah and here in New Mexico Comcast currently operates with their DOCSIS2.0 but is upgrading infrastructure to DOCSIS3.0 Robert ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Did you find one!? I've been looking to pick up a couple HP tabs at that price too Sent from my iPad On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't either...At least, not for a few more days. :) I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device. But, it could easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a laptop that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern *might* favor such a device. We'll see. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet. I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a compelling use for them. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. Horses for courses. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And to me. The backspace key is my friend! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. To you. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential -
Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
The DX is black and white-just with a bigger screen. E-ink seems to be the best for long-term reading because (A.) it's easy on the eyes and (B.) it requires just a trickle of power from a battery. But to be feasible for textbooks, it has to support color. China's Hanvon makes a color e-ink reader, but the technology is still very new. The colors aren't bright, and screen-draws are slow. Maybe in a year or two these will be ready for prime time. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Look again on Amazon I was told what I was looking at was a color Kindle they are larger than the B/W Kindle colors looked good but like I said that is all the look I got at it. I think this is what I was looking at. http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reading-Display-Generation/dp/B002GYWHSQ/ref=sa_menu_kdx23. It does not say one way or the other. Maybe I was told wrong! I sure wish the kids would have let me have a better look at it. Jon Harris On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's no color Kindle, as far as I know. I think there's a color Nook, but it doesn't use e-ink-so it's a backlit display, and much lower battery life. E-ink is very easy on the eyes. My wife has a Kindle, and loves it. It runs forever on a charge, and is easy to read-including in bright sunlight. There's no color, though. That's fine for reading novels and such, but for kids' textbooks color is a must. John From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares John, do you know if anyone is looking at either the nook or kindle color e-ink devices? I just saw my first kindle one this weekend and while the kids that had it were happy as a clam with what it could do I could not tell, the kids would not share with me, if e-books looked that much better or not. Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! ☺ I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server can also really foul up the works. BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can also really foul up the works. And your other comment is spot on! ☺ Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! ☺ I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints. The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. I'm tempted to run a few systems *without *standard AV, but my current emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-) On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server can also really foul up the works. ** ** BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can also really foul up the works. ** ** And your other comment is spot on! J ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions ** ** Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! J I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. ** ** BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. ** ** BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ** ** ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. ** ** Thanks ** ** ** ** Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ ** ** ** ** *From:* Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions ** ** You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
I may have...I'll be able to confirm today. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Aug 24, 2011 8:38 AM, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you find one!? I've been looking to pick up a couple HP tabs at that price too Sent from my iPad On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't either... At least, not for a few more days. :) I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device. But, it could easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a laptop that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern *might* favor such a device. We'll see. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet. I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a compelling use for them. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. Horses for courses. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And to me. The backspace key is my friend! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. To you. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost
RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
I've got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints. The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-) On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server can also really foul up the works. BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can also really foul up the works. And your other comment is spot on! :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! :) I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn't tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn't log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app's executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or
RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
Well advised, frankly, for certain classes of server. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Aug 24, 2011 9:19 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I've got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints. The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-) On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto: mich...@smithcons.com wrote: BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server can also really foul up the works. BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can also really foul up the works. And your other comment is spot on! :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.commailto: webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! :) I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn't tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn't log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app's executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto: pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto: webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto: listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto: listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto: listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally,
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Let me know off list so Kurt doesnt scoop them all up :) Sent from my iPad On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I may have...I'll be able to confirm today. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Aug 24, 2011 8:38 AM, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you find one!? I've been looking to pick up a couple HP tabs at that price too Sent from my iPad On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't either... At least, not for a few more days. :) I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device. But, it could easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a laptop that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern *might* favor such a device. We'll see. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet. I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a compelling use for them. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. Horses for courses. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And to me. The backspace key is my friend! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The loss of a
Re: Earthquake!!!!!!
Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote: I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here. ** ** *From:* Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] *Sent:* August-23-11 2:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!! ** ** Felt it here in Columbia, SC. ** ** *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!! ** ** I was gonna post up… ** ** Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila airport. ** ** First time for me. ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: Earthquake!! ** ** Anyone on east coast feel it? We did here in Pennsylvania. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Again, nobody is espousing tablets as wholesale REPLACEMENTS for computers. They are useful adjuncts in many cases. the most capable device first And therein lies the rub. Most cable for WHAT usage scenario? There are a bunch where tablet is MORE capable than a larger/more powerful device. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares My point is that it's important to have the most capable device first. Anything else should come thereafter. As a much less capable device, a tablet is a luxury, and should not replace a computer. Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop, and for a company a desktop should not supplant a server where a server is needed. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:18, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Many such devices are cheaper than a computer with its all-important keyboard. So what is your point? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full “computer”, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There’s room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. Only if you can afford them all. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
This all sounds vaguely familiar... is it September of 2010? -sc From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Actually, to be absolutely candid, it is a discussion about making bold assertions without being able to to support them. Because one doesn't find utility in a device doesn't mean that others can't find utility. To say something is crippled because it meet some arbitrary requirement is silly. On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au wrote: Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. Horses for courses. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I don't think you'll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn't obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn't imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And to me. The backspace key is my friend! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. To you. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business
RE: Cisco VPN Router?
Thanks. That's how I understood it, just wanted to ensure I hadn't missed a trick. Paul From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2011 12:39 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cisco VPN Router? No. If you already have the Juniper device, and IPSEC tunnel can easily be setup between the two. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukmailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: I've not dealt with any Cisco kit for a long time. If we want to create a site-to-site VPN tunnel to another location that used Cisco kit to terminate the connection, is there any benefit in going with a Cisco device vs. a Juniper? I've not done too much with site to site VPN's but my understanding is that whilst the implementation and terminology may vary between manufacturers, the underlying protocols should be compatible? Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Earthquake!!!!!!
I live in Barrie but work in Holland Landing From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: August-24-11 9:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Earthquake!! Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote: I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here. From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] Sent: August-23-11 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Earthquake!! Felt it here in Columbia, SC. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Earthquake!! I was gonna post up... Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila airport. First time for me. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Earthquake!! Anyone on east coast feel it? We did here in Pennsylvania. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Another: Forms data entry on a device with a clipboard-ish form factor with field level validation and back-end real-time processing logic. Think the multi-billion dollar medical industry as just ONE example. There are many, MANY others (insurance adjusters, inspection personnel, legal transcribing, etc...) Significantly more legit than a couple of kids seeing Twilight at the movies... -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Again, you're largely extrapolating a personal preference into a global phenomenon. There are a variety of tools, including Swype, which exist to make it easy to post long documents if you really need to, from a device like a smart phone, much less a tablet. Your personal preference does not indicate viability, nor will it inhibit adoption. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid via Swype On Aug 23, 2011 11:51 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: And to anyone who needs to express thoughts to others beyond the silliness that is 'u gng show night' with any regularity. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:03, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. * To you. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... * On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Groundhog Day. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: This all sounds vaguely familiar… is it September of 2010? ** ** -sc ** ** *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** Actually, to be absolutely candid, it is a discussion about making bold assertions without being able to to support them. Because one doesn't find utility in a device doesn't mean that others can't find utility. To say something is crippled because it meet some arbitrary requirement is silly. On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au wrote: Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. Horses for courses. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And to me. The backspace key is my friend! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. To you. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
For 95% of users a laptop suffices, and is often preferable. Given a choice here, most every standard user will take the laptop. We are moving to laptop/docking station usage here, with the idea that telework and hoteling will provide much greater flexibility, and a laptop with 2-4 CPU cores and 4GB of RAM in a widescreen display handles the vast majority of office-productivity requirements. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop, You may not have noticed, but laptop sales have long eclipsed desktop sales, even though desktops remain capable of much more power than laptops, particularly at the same price points. * http://www.techshout.com/laptops/2008/24/laptop-sales-overtake-desktop-p c-sales/ * http://news.techworld.com/sme/3227696/desktop-and-laptop-sales-to-grow-t his-year/ Power is not the only consideration in a computing purchase, and is often not even the primary consideration. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: My point is that it's important to have the most capable device first. Anything else should come thereafter. As a much less capable device, a tablet is a luxury, and should not replace a computer. Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop, and for a company a desktop should not supplant a server where a server is needed. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:18, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Many such devices are cheaper than a computer with its all-important keyboard. So what is your point? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. Only if you can afford them all. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
Isolated in what way? Just a separate subnet, or on a separate subnet with a firewall (or router with ACLs)? Or something more than that? On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 06:17, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I’ve got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints. The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-) On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server can also really foul up the works. BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can also really foul up the works. And your other comment is spot on! J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! J I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service
Thanks for the reply's all. We've had good reliability and service, voice and data, with TW and personally think the Comcast party line is a bad idea. Although cheap may go for it for it as a backup alternative. From: John Leto [mailto:jo...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 06:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service Yes what Sherry said, quit insulting me by saying I'm in Dallas! -) From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service Actually, technically, he's in Fort Worth. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service A - You're in Dallas. B - You added a comparison to ATT. :) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, John Leto jo...@colonialsavings.commailto:jo...@colonialsavings.com wrote: We've had excellent luck with TW Telecom especially compared to ATT. We are based in the Dallas Fort Worth area but have branches across the country. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service You're forcing us to compare between TWTC and Comcurst? Ouch. Run far away from TWTC. Run far away from Comcurst -- even for their so-called business class service (with its general lack of SLAs the last time I looked) Do you have any other option? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Robert LeBlanc robert.lebl...@aanmpc.commailto:robert.lebl...@aanmpc.com wrote: Howdy folks, Can anyone give any insight (good and bad) to Comcasts Business Class internet service. Our service agreement with TWtelecom ends in a few months and it seems that Comcast can blow TW's prices out of the water. But then again it's Comcast and since they don't offer an SLA in their agreement and some things I've heard in the past such as oversubscribing, outages, bandwidth speed dropping, etc concerns me. We may just use it as a backup service but have talked about replacing our primary service with it. We are a relatively small shop and operate now with a 4Mb up and down with a 1.5 DSL as backup that also handles wireless. We are looking at Comcasts 22Mb/2Mb service. Thanks for any input and feel free to contact off list as well. Oh yeah and here in New Mexico Comcast currently operates with their DOCSIS2.0 but is upgrading infrastructure to DOCSIS3.0 Robert ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
You would think I said I eat kittens. ;) There's an app for that. -sc From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Goodness. You would think I said I eat kittens. ;) I did say personally. I didn't say there was no use for them. Certain job functions they are extremely usefully.Our marketing guys use them for presentations and email for example. Unfortunately; I still need a laptop for certain things.. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And there are folks who do media creation and review for which they are 10x more convenient than a laptop. The org that we have a support contract with is doing a medical survey involving 100,000 subjects, and they are far more useful as a clipboard replacement than a laptop would be. Just because you don't find them to be a value proposition doesn't mean there aren't very valid use cases for them. -sc From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Well? I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for my kid.If somebody gave me one, I would use it. Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the adults. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares If you insist on using a tablet exactly as a PC (or even a laptop), then you'll be sorely disappointed. Most people who adopt them (tablets) use the new tool differently from the old tool. It's not like most people with laptops in a corporate environment are actually using a reasonable percentage of its inherent advantages. Additionally, many people are using their smart phones which are even more inconvenient than tablets, to accomplish some of the work they used to perform on PCs. Tablets give them a *richer* experience, from this standpoint, hence the growing adoption rate. I'm pretty sure that is we substitute PC for tablet and go back 16-20 years, there'd be no distinguishing the arguments being used. Yet, here we are. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Voicemail systems msgs: check. Training videos: check. Lectures: check. Etc... -sc From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of business document. John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares True. Unlike time past, where a file was expected to be some PC-centric thing (a Word doc, spreadsheet, configuration file, etc...) Everything is a file these days: You music? Check. Movies? Check Pictures? Check. Heck, I suspect most people have more _NON-PC_ devices consuming files than PC's these days... -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Accessing documents is a PC thing? Is email a PC thing? What about web browsing? It's not like the request was to create 3D movies via a tablet, which one could argue is more of a PC thing... -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Aug 23, 2011 8:30 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Agreed. Which was my point very early in this thread-we need to pick the right tool for the right job. What started this discussion was essentially a question of how to get an iPad to do PC stuff, which implies that maybe the iPad isn't the right tool for that particular job. I'm a Disney junkie, so I found this interesting: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8Pv sRqjkg It's a good use of iPads in design and construction. But for all the talk of tablets replacing PCs, this video shows that we're not there yet. Watch closely, and you'll see that the video opens showing an Imagineer's iPad sitting on top of his PC. And not just any PC, but a laptop-the specific devices that tablets are said to be rapidly displacing. Of course, he's also running Windows XP. So I have my doubts about how technologically progressive WDI is. :) John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Earthquake!!!!!!
Friggin’ Mexican food. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Earthquake!! -sc? Is that you? - WJR On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 15:16, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't feel anything either, except during my bathroom break...felt some rumbles there. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Not even a tremor here in Durham, UK. :-) Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:04:04 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Earthquake!! I did not feel a thing here in north-central Georgia mountains. From: Jeff Bunting [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Earthquake!! felt a little tremor down in Roanoke... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It’s centered just 25 miles east of me. Yes, I felt it. ☺ http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/usc0005ild.php Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Earthquake!! Anyone on east coast feel it? We did here in Pennsylvania. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Earthquake!!!!!!
Where's Charleton Heston and Karen Black when you need 'em! On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote: I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here. ** ** *From:* Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] *Sent:* August-23-11 2:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!! ** ** Felt it here in Columbia, SC. ** ** *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!! ** ** I was gonna post up… ** ** Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila airport. ** ** First time for me. ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: Earthquake!! ** ** Anyone on east coast feel it? We did here in Pennsylvania. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
I didn't say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the enterprise. I said that for MOST enterprises, they're not the PREDOMINANT document type. Or maybe we're just the exception in this regard, and other organizations are consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are. John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Voicemail systems msgs: check. Training videos: check. Lectures: check. Etc... -sc From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of business document. John ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
Absolutely. I'd go further and say they just need to be isolated from running non-approved code. A file server can have its shares full of viruses, but its not a problem for the system if nobody executes the code ON the server. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions I've got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints. The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-) On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server can also really foul up the works. BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can also really foul up the works. And your other comment is spot on! :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! :) I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn't tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn't log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app's executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To
RE: Earthquake!!!!!!
On my Netflix. From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Earthquake!! Where's Charleton Heston and Karen Black when you need 'em! On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote: I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here. From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] Sent: August-23-11 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Earthquake!! Felt it here in Columbia, SC. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Earthquake!! I was gonna post up… Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila airport. First time for me. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 Fax: 610-233-0404 http://www.fiserv.com/ www.fiserv.com Description: Frog Signature From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Earthquake!! Anyone on east coast feel it? We did here in Pennsylvania. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Really? My experience with education institutions is that they are voracious consumers multimedia. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:47 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I didn’t say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the enterprise. I said that for MOST enterprises, they’re not the PREDOMINANT document type. ** ** Or maybe we’re just the exception in this regard, and other organizations are consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are. ** ** ** ** John ** ** ** ** *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** Voicemail systems msgs: check. ** ** Training videos: check. ** ** Lectures: check. ** ** Etc… ** ** -sc ** ** *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares ** ** We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn’t be the predominant type of business document. ** ** ** ** John ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Depends on the job. For administrative staff, not so much. John From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Really? My experience with education institutions is that they are voracious consumers multimedia. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:47 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I didn't say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the enterprise. I said that for MOST enterprises, they're not the PREDOMINANT document type. Or maybe we're just the exception in this regard, and other organizations are consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are. John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Voicemail systems msgs: check. Training videos: check. Lectures: check. Etc... -sc From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of business document. John ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Orginizational Q
Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers J I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name... Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Orginizational Q So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys' teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers
For such an attack that caused $300k damage, it seems that this only affected a relatively small org. Small orgs tend not to have the enormous amount of risk management and process (ITIL or otherwise) that large organisations have. Large orgs also have their problems, but something as routine as employee termination does tend to have a standard procedure that does get followed (well, maybe they can still access the carpark). We have a small mountain of documentation to cover thousands of procedures - but there are probably still gaps. From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of Lee Douglas Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 9:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers Hard to believe they didn't bother to change the passwords, but maybe not. http://www.expertbriefings.com/news/former-employee-cripples-shionogi-computers/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Orginizational Q
Heard of all sorts of stuff Server and Directory Services Domain Services Backbone Services Distributed Service Management Whatever floats your boat really - although I used to work as Network Administrator in a job where I handled everything *but* the network, so keeping it at least mildly relevant might be an idea On 24 August 2011 16:08, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. ** ** What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Orginizational Q
I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team... Get yourself one of these - I have one http://www.redsave.com/products/mr-t-in-your-pocket On 24 August 2011 16:18, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers ** ** J ** ** I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name… ** ** ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Orginizational Q ** ** So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. ** ** What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: Orginizational Q
Watched the movie this weekend. It wasn't that bad. I love the Murdoch character - the guy from District 7...Van de Merwe I think. Funny guy. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team... Get yourself one of these - I have one http://www.redsave.com/products/mr-t-in-your-pocket On 24 August 2011 16:18, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers ** ** J ** ** I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name… ** ** ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Orginizational Q ** ** So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. ** ** What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed
RE: Orginizational Q
I loved it. Most satisfying movie I can remember. Not necessarily the best, but it was everything I wanted it to be. Incorporating all the elements of the show without being blatant ripoffs. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Orginizational Q Watched the movie this weekend. It wasn't that bad. I love the Murdoch character - the guy from District 7...Van de Merwe I think. Funny guy. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team... Get yourself one of these - I have one http://www.redsave.com/products/mr-t-in-your-pocket On 24 August 2011 16:18, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers :) I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name... Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 Fax: 610-233-0404tel:610-233-0404 www.fiserv.comhttp://www.fiserv.com/ [Description: Frog Signature] From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Orginizational Q So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys' teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no
RE: Orginizational Q
As long as I handled the Mini-gun on the chopper... *eg* Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Orginizational Q I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team... Get yourself one of these - I have one http://www.redsave.com/products/mr-t-in-your-pocket On 24 August 2011 16:18, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers J I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name... Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Orginizational Q So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys' teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! The comments
RE: Orginizational Q
How about Local Services Department From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Orginizational Q So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys' teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Orginizational Q
Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest BOFH? Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From: David Lum david@nwea.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 08/24/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Orginizational Q So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Orginizational Q
The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service Desk manager but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else builds servers for internal use (and this happens frequently around here), manages AD, SMS, Shavlik patching, and server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s not my job title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which currently doesn’t exist. Dave From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Orginizational Q Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest BOFH? Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Orginizational Q So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers
And here's the key... ...employee termination does tend to have a standard procedure that does get followed... We're quite small at 50 employees, yet we have these procedures in place to ensure that this type of situation does not happen. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers For such an attack that caused $300k damage, it seems that this only affected a relatively small org. Small orgs tend not to have the enormous amount of risk management and process (ITIL or otherwise) that large organisations have. Large orgs also have their problems, but something as routine as employee termination does tend to have a standard procedure that does get followed (well, maybe they can still access the carpark). We have a small mountain of documentation to cover thousands of procedures - but there are probably still gaps. From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of Lee Douglas Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 9:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers Hard to believe they didn't bother to change the passwords, but maybe not. http://www.expertbriefings.com/news/former-employee-cripples-shionogi-co mputers/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) {+} Tickets and Subscriptions On Sale Now! Aida | Hansel And Gretel | Orph?e | The Mikado Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA Experience the Beauty, Power Passion of Virginia Opera. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. {*} ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Orginizational Q
ISED1 Internal Systems Engineering Department 1 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Orginizational Q The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service Desk manager but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else builds servers for internal use (and this happens frequently around here), manages AD, SMS, Shavlik patching, and server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s not my job title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which currently doesn’t exist. Dave From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Orginizational Q Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest BOFH? Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Orginizational Q So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Orginizational Q
I don't think group names are BS. Group names have an effect on outside perceptions about what your group does and is assigned. Especially at larger companies where no one can keep the entire structure in their head and rely on distribution lists or group names to make educated assumtions about who to contact for what. Name are important to perception. I'd go with Systems Engineering. If you have multiple OS's and a seperate Network and Unix team, Windows Systems Engineering. You could also go with Server Infrastructure Team or something similiar. You want something inclusive of your scope but not something that steps on what the other teams do. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service Desk manager but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else builds servers for internal use (and this happens frequently around here), manages AD, SMS, Shavlik patching, and server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s not my job title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which currently doesn’t exist. ** ** Dave ** ** *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Orginizational Q ** ** Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest BOFH? Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:David Lum david@nwea.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Orginizational Q -- So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
An example... OnPatient is a free app for collecting patient information instead of the traditional clipboard which ties in to the drchrono EHR app (also free - but with variable pricing for back-end functionality). Patient shows up at check-in, handed the iPad with their initial information in to verify/update/add. Returns to check-in and information is available for medical practitioner in the drchrono EHR app. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Another: Forms data entry on a device with a clipboard-ish form factor with field level validation and back-end real-time processing logic. Think the multi-billion dollar medical industry as just ONE example. There are many, MANY others (insurance adjusters, inspection personnel, legal transcribing, etc…) -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Very cool... -sc -Original Message- From: Michael White [mailto:mswhite...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares An example... OnPatient is a free app for collecting patient information instead of the traditional clipboard which ties in to the drchrono EHR app (also free - but with variable pricing for back-end functionality). Patient shows up at check-in, handed the iPad with their initial information in to verify/update/add. Returns to check-in and information is available for medical practitioner in the drchrono EHR app. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Another: Forms data entry on a device with a clipboard-ish form factor with field level validation and back-end real-time processing logic. Think the multi-billion dollar medical industry as just ONE example. There are many, MANY others (insurance adjusters, inspection personnel, legal transcribing, etc...) -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Orginizational Q
IT Department. Which encompasses system administrators, pc techs, network admins, web developers, dba, etc.. etc.. etc. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Orginizational Q So.in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys' teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Orginizational Q
So you have a rim job? Sounds like a position we should fill. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Orginizational Q Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers J I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 http://www.fiserv.com/ www.fiserv.com Description: Frog Signature From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Orginizational Q So.in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys' teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
Re: Orginizational Q
Slam dunk! On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: So you have a “rim” job? ** ** Sounds like a position we should fill… ** ** *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Orginizational Q ** ** Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers ** ** J ** ** I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name… ** ** ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Orginizational Q ** ** So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. ** ** What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Orginizational Q
… until you decide to look for another job. Say you apply for a System Engineer position and you use “Technical Support III” on your resume. The Jr. recruiting analyst that just graduated from high school who does not know up from down would send your resume to the circular file because you were not a “System Engineer”. So you have to add “System Engineer/Technical Support III” on your resume. Again, the Jr. recruiting analyst would say how can he hold two positions at the same time… another trip the circular file. J From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Orginizational Q Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest BOFH? Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:David Lum david@nwea.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Orginizational Q _ So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Orginizational Q
So my suggestion of Apple Dumpling Gang is off base I guess. Steven Peck wrote: I don't think group names are BS. Group names have an effect on outside perceptions about what your group does and is assigned. Especially at larger companies where no one can keep the entire structure in their head and rely on distribution lists or group names to make educated assumtions about who to contact for what. Name are important to perception. I'd go with Systems Engineering. If you have multiple OS's and a seperate Network and Unix team, Windows Systems Engineering. You could also go with Server Infrastructure Team or something similiar. You want something inclusive of your scope but not something that steps on what the other teams do. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org mailto:david@nwea.org wrote: The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service Desk manager but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else builds servers for internal use (and this happens frequently around here), manages AD, SMS, Shavlik patching, and server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s not my job title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which currently doesn’t exist. Dave *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Orginizational Q Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest BOFH? Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 tel:610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 tel:610-807-6003 From:David Lum david@nwea.org mailto:david@nwea.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Orginizational Q So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEA^TM Office 503.548.5229 tel:503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
Re: Orginizational Q
How about Remote Infrastructure Management? I found this list of possibilities here: http://www.acronymfinder.com/Information-Technology/RIM.html On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers ** ** J ** ** I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name… ** ** ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Orginizational Q ** ** So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. ** ** What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Cisco VPN Router?
+1.. Juniper all the way. We use the Juniper netscreen (or whatever they are called now) for site to site VPN or remote access. Simple to set up. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cisco VPN Router? No. If you already have the Juniper device, and IPSEC tunnel can easily be setup between the two. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: I've not dealt with any Cisco kit for a long time. If we want to create a site-to-site VPN tunnel to another location that used Cisco kit to terminate the connection, is there any benefit in going with a Cisco device vs. a Juniper? I've not done too much with site to site VPN's but my understanding is that whilst the implementation and terminology may vary between manufacturers, the underlying protocols should be compatible? Thanks, Paul _ MIRA Ltd ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Orginizational Q
It was only a matter of time..I regretted that as soon as I hit Send. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Orginizational Q So you have a rim job? Sounds like a position we should fill... From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Orginizational Q Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers J I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name... Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Orginizational Q So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys' teams that manage AD and servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
eEye has a product that looks compelling as well... From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE Alternatives? I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...
What's wrong with that? Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... I know I'm not following best practice, but my Hyper-V hosts are running Datacenter Ed. and are my DCs. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.orgmailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tue 8/23/2011 7:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... If you are down, you call them and tell them you are down and that it is a business critical event. I don't know what the fee for that is, but you are supposed to get a callback in 30 minutes 24x7x365. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [Microsoft support] Is it me... ..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other I get support times of 6a-6pm. https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847 I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC it needed to talk to! Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VIPRE Alternatives?
I'd stay away from Trend. We use it here and my whitelist continually catches things it misses. I'd go so far to say it's useless. Eset used to be quite highly regarded, but they seemed to fall out of favour. Might be worth a look again. Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment -Original Message- From: Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:21:54 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: VIPRE Alternatives? I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
We've done very well with Avira Antivir. It doesn't seem so well known outside of Europe but it's lightweight and very effective. From: Roger Wright [rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2011 6:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE Alternatives? I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VIPRE Alternatives?
We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VIPRE Alternatives?
IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Orginizational Q
http://despair.com/regret.html ^^ There ya go. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: It was only a matter of time……….I regretted that as soon as I hit Send.*** * ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:49 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Orginizational Q ** ** So you have a “rim” job? ** ** Sounds like a position we should fill… ** ** *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Orginizational Q ** ** Server Infrastructure Team Infrastructure Team Server Engineering Systems Engineering They Who Manage Internal Servers ** ** J ** ** I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name… ** ** ** ** *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Orginizational Q ** ** So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server infrastructure. ** ** What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: full system backup
Acronis. $79 dollars I think I spent for 1 workstation where image level backups and bare metal restores were a MUST. It's a wonderful product, worth every penny. Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...
In my environment - nothing. It's working like a champ. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... What's wrong with that? Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com mailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... I know I'm not following best practice, but my Hyper-V hosts are running Datacenter Ed. and are my DCs. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tue 8/23/2011 7:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... If you are down, you call them and tell them you are down and that it is a business critical event. I don't know what the fee for that is, but you are supposed to get a callback in 30 minutes 24x7x365. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [Microsoft support] Is it me... ..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other I get support times of 6a-6pm. https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid= d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln =en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847 I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC it needed to talk to! Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) {+} Tickets and Subscriptions On Sale Now! Aida | Hansel And Gretel | Orph?e | The Mikado Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA Experience the Beauty, Power Passion of Virginia Opera. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. {*} ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Action Pack License Question
Putting 20 users on a volume license when you have only 10 is a licensing violation. How severe is it? I dunno. I just know it's a technical violation. If you want to go with 100% legit, you split your install base up. Is it worth it? I got an Action Pack mainly for the server software. The Office is a nice bonus, but it's easier to manage with one kind of licensing... There are a few spots where I use the Action Pack license, though. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example).** ** ** ** However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to love. I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install. ** ** Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs. Can I use VL Media to install office for all 20 users? Is a license a license in this sense? ** ** I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don’t answer licensing questions. Um, ok. ** ** What would you guys do? Trying to keep things legit here. ** ** Thanks, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...
Thanks. That makes sense. So, really there's no issue as long as you have a local account on the hosts to log into? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... That's fine. Remember, Hyper-V is a type-1 hypervisor. IT doesn't care how you log in to the root partition. IT doesn't care about domains. IT doesn't care about authentication credentials. So If you are recovering from a datacenter shutdown, first power-on the Hyper-V server hosting a VM that holds your forest-root PDC FSMO role. This VM server really needs to be a GC and host DNS. This VM server needs to refer to itself as either primary or secondary for DNS. Sign on to that Hyper-V server using a LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE USER ACCOUNT. Start the VM. After it's running, log out of the Hyper-V server and log back in using a domain account. Start your other DCs/GCs, I'd recommend one-by-one, but depending on your environment size, that may not be practical. After you have at least one DC/GC running in each AD site, you can begin starting your other servers, based on your recovery requirements (me, I start all DCs, followed by Exchange, followed by SQL, followed by file servers, followed by anything else that is left). Alternately - have your forest root PDC (and a GC!) on a physical server. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... However, there are ways to handle this Such as? My plan is to migrate from ESX3.5 to Hyper-V and I *planned* on joining the hosts to the virualized domain. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... IMHO - the only issue is that you need to have more than one DC and they need to be hosted on more than one physical server. THE MAJOR CHALLENGE is that, in the case of a datacenter reboot or datacenter shutdown followed by a datacenter power-up, restoring service can be a bit challenging. However, there are ways to handle this. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [Microsoft support] Is it me... That was why I never made a Hyper-V host a member of any domain if it would host a DC. Just plain bad news. Jon On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: ..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other I get support times of 6a-6pm. https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847 I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC it needed to talk to! Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To
RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...
And you use it when appropriate. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... Thanks. That makes sense. So, really there's no issue as long as you have a local account on the hosts to log into? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... That's fine. Remember, Hyper-V is a type-1 hypervisor. IT doesn't care how you log in to the root partition. IT doesn't care about domains. IT doesn't care about authentication credentials. So If you are recovering from a datacenter shutdown, first power-on the Hyper-V server hosting a VM that holds your forest-root PDC FSMO role. This VM server really needs to be a GC and host DNS. This VM server needs to refer to itself as either primary or secondary for DNS. Sign on to that Hyper-V server using a LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE USER ACCOUNT. Start the VM. After it's running, log out of the Hyper-V server and log back in using a domain account. Start your other DCs/GCs, I'd recommend one-by-one, but depending on your environment size, that may not be practical. After you have at least one DC/GC running in each AD site, you can begin starting your other servers, based on your recovery requirements (me, I start all DCs, followed by Exchange, followed by SQL, followed by file servers, followed by anything else that is left). Alternately - have your forest root PDC (and a GC!) on a physical server. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... However, there are ways to handle this Such as? My plan is to migrate from ESX3.5 to Hyper-V and I *planned* on joining the hosts to the virualized domain. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... IMHO - the only issue is that you need to have more than one DC and they need to be hosted on more than one physical server. THE MAJOR CHALLENGE is that, in the case of a datacenter reboot or datacenter shutdown followed by a datacenter power-up, restoring service can be a bit challenging. However, there are ways to handle this. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [Microsoft support] Is it me... That was why I never made a Hyper-V host a member of any domain if it would host a DC. Just plain bad news. Jon On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: ..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other I get support times of 6a-6pm. https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847 I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC it needed to talk to! Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Action Pack License Question
If you have a volume license don't you have a LAR you can ask? I've always worked on the assumption that Microsoft care far more about keys used than they do media, so if using different media means you have to use a different key for which you aren't licensed, that's more of an issue than the media used, IYSWIM. The answer with pretty much anything Microsoft is get it in writing from your LAR if you can. From: Sam Cayze [sca...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2011 7:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Action Pack License Question So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example). However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to love. I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install. Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs. Can I use VL Media to install office for all 20 users? Is a license a license in this sense? I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don’t answer licensing questions. Um, ok. What would you guys do? Trying to keep things legit here. Thanks, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...
But, of course ;) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... And you use it when appropriate. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... Thanks. That makes sense. So, really there's no issue as long as you have a local account on the hosts to log into? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... That's fine. Remember, Hyper-V is a type-1 hypervisor. IT doesn't care how you log in to the root partition. IT doesn't care about domains. IT doesn't care about authentication credentials. So If you are recovering from a datacenter shutdown, first power-on the Hyper-V server hosting a VM that holds your forest-root PDC FSMO role. This VM server really needs to be a GC and host DNS. This VM server needs to refer to itself as either primary or secondary for DNS. Sign on to that Hyper-V server using a LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE USER ACCOUNT. Start the VM. After it's running, log out of the Hyper-V server and log back in using a domain account. Start your other DCs/GCs, I'd recommend one-by-one, but depending on your environment size, that may not be practical. After you have at least one DC/GC running in each AD site, you can begin starting your other servers, based on your recovery requirements (me, I start all DCs, followed by Exchange, followed by SQL, followed by file servers, followed by anything else that is left). Alternately - have your forest root PDC (and a GC!) on a physical server. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... However, there are ways to handle this Such as? My plan is to migrate from ESX3.5 to Hyper-V and I *planned* on joining the hosts to the virualized domain. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me... IMHO - the only issue is that you need to have more than one DC and they need to be hosted on more than one physical server. THE MAJOR CHALLENGE is that, in the case of a datacenter reboot or datacenter shutdown followed by a datacenter power-up, restoring service can be a bit challenging. However, there are ways to handle this. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [Microsoft support] Is it me... That was why I never made a Hyper-V host a member of any domain if it would host a DC. Just plain bad news. Jon On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: ..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other I get support times of 6a-6pm. https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847 I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC it needed to talk to! Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Action Pack License Question
I think you would be in violation, because you are licensed activations per key. But it would be a technical violation. However, IANAL, and I don't speak for Microsoft. Call them and ask. http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/contact-us.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Action Pack License Question So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example). However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to love. I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install. Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs. Can I use VL Media to install office for all 20 users? Is a license a license in this sense? I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing questions. Um, ok. What would you guys do? Trying to keep things legit here. Thanks, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions
Firewall in between, as well as a different switching matrix. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions Isolated in what way? Just a separate subnet, or on a separate subnet with a firewall (or router with ACLs)? Or something more than that? On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 06:17, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I’ve got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints. The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-) On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server can also really foul up the works. BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can also really foul up the works. And your other comment is spot on! J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me glad I charge by the hour! J I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers. BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back running. BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain Controller can also really foul up the works. ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an elevated cmd prompt ? Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one computer to another? I found the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection\AV\Exclusions] I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any clues? Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
RE: Action Pack License Question
You would need to use the proper licensing qty's for each, but for the issue of not being able to deploy, the Office Customization Tool isn't included in all media. So just download it from MS and then you can deploy. Explained here: http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/customising-office-2010-before-deplo yment/ -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Action Pack License Question So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example). However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to love. I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install. Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs. Can I use VL Media to install office for all 20 users? Is a license a license in this sense? I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing questions. Um, ok. What would you guys do? Trying to keep things legit here. Thanks, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Action Pack License Question
Well, bingo. Did not realize that - and I looked hard for a solution. I'll try that. On my 4th agent with MS Licensing and they can't answer the question. I'll post back if I get a response. Thanks, Sam From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question You would need to use the proper licensing qty's for each, but for the issue of not being able to deploy, the Office Customization Tool isn't included in all media. So just download it from MS and then you can deploy. Explained here: http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/customising-office-2010-before-deplo yment/ -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Action Pack License Question So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example). However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to love. I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install. Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs. Can I use VL Media to install office for all 20 users? Is a license a license in this sense? I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing questions. Um, ok. What would you guys do? Trying to keep things legit here. Thanks, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Action Pack License Question
Remember reimaging rights? You get that with your license. Now under most circumstances these would not be applicable as Office Pro is different to Pro Plus, but from Action Pack they are the same product. You could put in a KMS server to sort the activation - and then just use the console to verify the counts in case anyone asks. Mike From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2011 20:16 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question Well, bingo. Did not realize that - and I looked hard for a solution. I'll try that. On my 4th agent with MS Licensing and they can't answer the question. I'll post back if I get a response. Thanks, Sam From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]mailto:[mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question You would need to use the proper licensing qty's for each, but for the issue of not being able to deploy, the Office Customization Tool isn't included in all media. So just download it from MS and then you can deploy. Explained here: http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/customising-office-2010-before-deployment/ -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Action Pack License Question So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example). However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to love. I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install. Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs. Can I use VL Media to install office for all 20 users? Is a license a license in this sense? I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing questions. Um, ok. What would you guys do? Trying to keep things legit here. Thanks, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VIPRE Alternatives?
Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.comwrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
Nice Kim. I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console... From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
That's almost correct Kim I did not eval nor was asked to eval Symantec or McAfee. I did evals of Eset and Trend. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Nice Kim. I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console... From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
First mistake this year! Sorry. From: John Leto Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? That's almost correct Kim I did not eval nor was asked to eval Symantec or McAfee. I did evals of Eset and Trend. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Nice Kim. I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console... From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
No it's at least your 15th. From: Kim Longenbaugh Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? First mistake this year! Sorry. From: John Leto Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? That's almost correct Kim I did not eval nor was asked to eval Symantec or McAfee. I did evals of Eset and Trend. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Nice Kim. I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console... From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
Happiest day I've had in a long time when I deleted the VM hosting that. EPO is a 4 letter word to me, actually a bunch of them strung together. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Nice Kim. I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console... From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
We're running Sophos. We liked the console vs Kaspersky. Not overly impressed with their post-installation support. Kaspersky support during our trial period was better. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
Me too. Serious suckage. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Nice Kim. I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body:
RE: VIPRE Alternatives?
Not saying that it was a good product, but I didn't mind the ePO console. I found it easy to learn/navigate, once you tweaked it to your environment and how you did your rollouts/updates. As far as it protecting wellI think we all know the answer to that. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Happiest day I've had in a long time when I deleted the VM hosting that. EPO is a 4 letter word to me, actually a bunch of them strung together. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Nice Kim. I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console... From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives? Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought in mind of replacing Vipre. The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than Vipre. We still have Vipre. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives? Yep, looks like it's McAfee. But might check it out to see how the management process works. I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote: We have done well with Kaspersky. I'm curious about Sonicwall. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several years. Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost. But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall. At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when considering VIPRE alternatives. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended
Re: full system backup
Does it handle restore to a different system configuration reasonably well? On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Acronis. $79 dollars I think I spent for 1 workstation where image level backups and bare metal restores were a MUST. It's a wonderful product, worth every penny. Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Action Pack License Question
Set up a KMS server and just stop worrying. We have MVL, Action Pack, TechNet and SPLA licenses floating around and the audit tools from the KMS VAMT (Volume Activation Management Toolkit) keep us straight. I have a standard build folder for Office, SharePoint Designer, Project and Visio with SP1 all in one folder which we install on every internal machine. If you ever needed to change the keys then you could do it with a click from the console. I would keep the following as the rights for it: Reimaging Eligibility Reimaging is permitted if the copies made from the Volume Licensing media are identical to the originally licensed product[1]. Volume Licensing customers who have licensed Microsoft software products from an OEM, through a retail source, or under any agreement other than their Microsoft Volume Licensing agreement may use copies made from Microsoft Volume Licensing media. Customers can use these copies from Microsoft media only if they are the same product and version, contain the same components, and are in the same language. The following are examples that do not meet the eligibility criteria for reimaging: Different components: The Microsoft Office system suites must have exactly the same component products. For instance, Microsoft Office Professional 2010 licensed through the OEM, system builder, or FPP channel and Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2010 licensed through Microsoft Volume Licensing are not the same product. They also do not share the same components. Therefore, you cannot reimage in this example. Microsoft Reimaging Rights Feb 2011 Mike (Microsoft Licensing Sales Expert 2004-2011) From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2011 21:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question I spoke with 9 different people at all various departments. (MAPS, VL, PreSales, Business Support, Licensing, etc). Nobody had an answer. The last one told me to talk to our reseller. I'll try that, but to be safe, I'm going to assume that I can't do this. -Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin [1] Windows 7 Enterprise is not available outside the Volume Licensing programs, and is therefore not eligible for reimaging. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: full system backup
Works for us, we use the same image on both Dell D630 and E6400 laptops. -Original Message- From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: full system backup Does it handle restore to a different system configuration reasonably well? On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Acronis. $79 dollars I think I spent for 1 workstation where image level backups and bare metal restores were a MUST. It's a wonderful product, worth every penny. Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Action Pack License Question
Great info, thanks Mike. Haven't delved into KMS yet as we are mostly 2003 or earlier on everything. With lots of new MS products being deployed into our network soon, I think it's time to do some research and get my hands dirty on it. Thanks, Sam From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question Set up a KMS server and just stop worrying. We have MVL, Action Pack, TechNet and SPLA licenses floating around and the audit tools from the KMS VAMT (Volume Activation Management Toolkit) keep us straight. I have a standard build folder for Office, SharePoint Designer, Project and Visio with SP1 all in one folder which we install on every internal machine. If you ever needed to change the keys then you could do it with a click from the console. I would keep the following as the rights for it: Reimaging Eligibility Reimaging is permitted if the copies made from the Volume Licensing media are identical to the originally licensed product[1]. Volume Licensing customers who have licensed Microsoft software products from an OEM, through a retail source, or under any agreement other than their Microsoft Volume Licensing agreement may use copies made from Microsoft Volume Licensing media. Customers can use these copies from Microsoft media only if they are the same product and version, contain the same components, and are in the same language. The following are examples that do not meet the eligibility criteria for reimaging: Different components: The Microsoft Office system suites must have exactly the same component products. For instance, Microsoft Office Professional 2010 licensed through the OEM, system builder, or FPP channel and Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2010 licensed through Microsoft Volume Licensing are not the same product. They also do not share the same components. Therefore, you cannot reimage in this example. Microsoft Reimaging Rights Feb 2011 Mike (Microsoft Licensing Sales Expert 2004-2011) From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2011 21:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question I spoke with 9 different people at all various departments. (MAPS, VL, PreSales, Business Support, Licensing, etc). Nobody had an answer. The last one told me to talk to our reseller. I'll try that, but to be safe, I'm going to assume that I can't do this. -Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ [1] Windows 7 Enterprise is not available outside the Volume Licensing programs, and is therefore not eligible for reimaging. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)
Quidquid latine dictum, altum videtur On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Dominus omus. -- Espi On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: A moment of silence to mourn what has become of the company that used to make the LaserJet4 and my trusty DesignJet550C -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP) The suck which has infested HP for the past several years continues to spread. We just today took a delivery of a brand new DesignJet T790. $4500 wide-format printer. The control panel UI is slow and often doesn't respond to finger presses. It does, however, have lots of high color graphics and animations. Web UI has two different credential schemes depending on what page you're on. Some pages want you to leave the username field blank; other pages want you to use admin for the username. Won't load paper. Seems like it's not actually trying to feed. After trying to a bit, it says Edge of roll not found. Prompts me to lift the lever and unload paper. I lift the lever. New message: Lever unexpectedly lifted. Lather, rinse, repeat. Support guidance says load the latest firmware. Look for firmware. It's not under Download drivers and software. Eventually find it under a howto section. 309 MB file! Get download started. Since I'm downloading, decide to grab drivers. Check under Download drivers and software. Don't see drivers. Mainly just this HP ePrint and Share: Easy printing thing. That claims to be a radical new technology that lets me print without drivers or software. To use it, all I have to do is download and install this software. Umm... Eventually find drivers under some other howto page. Firmware download finished. It's just a binary blob, no checksum info, no wrapper like ZIP or anything. I just have to hope for the best. Takes several minutes to load. Since then the machine's gone offline and hasn't come back. I'm dreading the day the corruption reaches the ProCurve division. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember Remember this Coming November The Debt Crisis Treason and Plot I know of No Reason the Republican Treason Should EVER be Forgot ! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:17 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote: Dominus omus. Quidquid latine dictum, altum videtur *thunk* -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: full system backup
Those are pretty much the same hardware layer, hard to call those different systems as far as Windows is concerned. Dell Laptop to HP desktop, for example, that might be a different story. I think you need universal restore for that: http://www.acronis.com/backup-recovery/advanced-workstation/ -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: full system backup Works for us, we use the same image on both Dell D630 and E6400 laptops. -Original Message- From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: full system backup Does it handle restore to a different system configuration reasonably well? On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Acronis. $79 dollars I think I spent for 1 workstation where image level backups and bare metal restores were a MUST. It's a wonderful product, worth every penny. Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin