RE: Exchange 2007 Meeting room resources

2011-08-24 Thread Fergal O'Connell
Bumping this mail!

I have a requirement for a number of users who will able to overwrite the 
existing meetings in a particular meeting room.
Does anyone know if this is possible?

All the meeting room resources will be set to -AutomateProcessing AutoAccept


From: Fergal O'Connell [mailto:foconn...@curamsoftware.com]
Sent: 17 August 2011 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 Meeting room resources

Hi Folks,

Just a quick couple of questions about Meeting Room resources
Exchange 2007 SP3
Outlook 2007SP3\Outlook 2010



* Can you specify that a specific group of users can over write 
existing booking in a meeting room?

* When a user leaves is there any way that the meetings that this user 
created can be flagged or triggered so that the Exchange Admin can delete or 
action the meeting?

* By default the reoccurring meeting has a maximum of 180 days - what 
happens then to all the reoccurring meetings? Do they just end.

Can this be flagged so that the organizer has the option of re-creating the 
reoccurring meeting? Date is listed on the meeting request. I can also set 
-EnforceSchedulingHorizon $false to that will allow the no end date option on 
reoccurring meetings.

Fergal O'Connell


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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
There you go again, confusing *your* needs with the needs of the vast
majority of consumers (both corporate and personal)

Smartphones are also inhibited when it comes to content creation.  Doesn't
appear to be stopping their momentum in any way:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379665,00.asp

Even if the views you expressed were true for every single techie on the
planet (and, I assure you that they are not), it would still be dwarfed by
the vast majority of people that populate the earth, have disposable income,
and are not techies.

Also, new use cases will always spring up once devices of a certain form
factor gain some traction.

It's coming...  you can lead, or you can follow, but it is coming to an
office near you -- and soon.

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 I strongly disagree. The ability to manipulate content is a very big
 issue, which is why a keyboard is so very important. IMNSHO, a
 keyboard is even more important than a pointing device, because it
 allows one to express in words.

 The tablet paradigm (if I can use such high-falutin' words) is to
 transform the people into little more than passive consumers.

 Reading is fundamental (to coin a phrase), but computers are so very
 much more useful than mere output devices.

 Sure, as a simple adjunct to a PC a tablet has some uses, and at a
 cheap enough price I'll consider getting one, but it's a fundamentally
 crippled device.

 Kurt

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 20:52, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Very well. iPhone thread.
 
  On point. Books are content. The ability to manipulate the content isn't
 the
  issue. Being able to deliver it easily is. That being said I'm writing
 this
  response lying flat on my back in bed because I wanted to check my mail
  before turning in. Do all that on a PC under the same conditions and we
 can
  talk.
 
  On Monday, August 22, 2011, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
  The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
  tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
  digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
  given the cost differential - once you take into account the
  peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
  laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
  supposed advantages.
 
  Kurt
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  You're still mostly wooshing here.
 
  Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often
  appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT.  I, of course,
 know
  that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data
 processing
  department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer
 to
  the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC
  networks.
  And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks?  I know a lot
  of
  administrators are crunching these numbers right now...
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
   To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to
   pasture
   of
   days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution.
 
  Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server
  administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the
  minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes.
 
   The current generation
   of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology
 since
   then.
 
  Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced.
 
   Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because
   they
   believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and
   distributing
   content!
 
  The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show
  is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger
  screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still
  need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking,
  and the price is still too high.
 
  Kurt


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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Again, you're largely extrapolating a personal preference into a global
phenomenon.

There are a variety of tools, including Swype, which exist to make it easy
to post long documents if you really need to, from a device like a smart
phone, much less a tablet.

Your personal preference does not indicate viability, nor will it inhibit
adoption.

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Sent from my Motorola Droid via Swype
 On Aug 23, 2011 11:51 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 And to anyone who needs to express thoughts to others beyond the silliness
 that is 'u gng show night' with any regularity.

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:03, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed
advantages.
 *

 To you.

 * *

 *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
 Technology for the SMB market…

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 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost differential - once you take into account the
 peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
 laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
 supposed advantages.

 Kurt

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You're still mostly wooshing here.
 
  Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often
  appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course,
 know
  that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data
 processing
  department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer
 to
  the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC
  networks.
  And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot
 of
  administrators are crunching these numbers right now...
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com

  wrote:
   To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to
 pasture
   of
   days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution.
 
  Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server
  administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the
  minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on
mainframes.
 
   The current generation
   of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology
since
   then.
 
  Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced.
 
   Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because
 they
   believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and
 distributing
   content!
 
  The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show
  is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger
  screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still
  need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking,
  and the price is still too high.
 
  Kurt
 

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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*Only if you can afford them all.*

No one said that any single individual needed to own the entire ecosystem.


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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
 
  This point seems to be lost on many.
 
 
 
  There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not
 require a full “computer”, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop,
 actually can be a disadvantage.
 
 
 
  There’s room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some
 time.

 Only if you can afford them all.



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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*We are creating far more than we ever used to though*


I hesitate to call much of that content *creation*.   At best, many people
are pushing around content to lots of other people made by only a few
people.

Just take this list, for example.  The growth in traffic is attributable to
a small number of subscribers, on the whole, and this growth is consumed by
a much larger group.

No matter what the growth of content, the ratio of consumers to producers is
not shrinking appreciably, even if you count - pseudo producers.

Add to that, the tools for creation and distribution are becoming more
sophisticated and yet simpler to use, that they are being used on different
devices than before.


*Social networking is a big driver of this. *

And think of how many people manage their social media from their
smartphones...

http://www.telecomlead.com/inner-page-details.php?id=1596block=

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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.auwrote:

  We are creating far more than we ever used to though.  Social networking
 is a big driver of this.  Then add things like bit torrent and
 non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue.

 ** **

 Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t
 imagine working on one all day at %work%.  My productivity would greatly
 diminish as it would for 99% of my users.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates
 of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected
 in modern cable Download/Upload splits.

 YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks
 that the consumption side is more relevant.

 Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. 

  --

 *From: *Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 

 *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700

 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

 *Subject: *Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an
 Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as
 well.


 I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so
 useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have
 the ability to consume it.

 The converse isn't true.

  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use
 cases.

 Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. 
  --

 *From: *James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au 

 *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +

 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

 *Subject: *RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 And to me.  The backspace key is my friend!

  

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.
 *

 To you.
 

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*

 ** **

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost differential - once you take into account the
 peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
 laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
 supposed advantages.

 Kurt

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You're still mostly wooshing here.
 
  Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often
  appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT.  I, of course, know
  that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing
  department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to
  the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC
  networks.
  And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks?  I know a lot
 of
  

Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I don't either...At least, not for a few more days.  :)

I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm
willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device.  But, it
could easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a
laptop that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern
*might* favor such a device.   We'll see.

* *

*ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
Technology for the SMB market…

*



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

 Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet.

 ** **

 I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather
 dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a
 compelling use for them.

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 Agreed.  There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of
 the discussion.

 ** **

 Horses for courses.

 ** **

 *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who
 are suggesting such.

 ** **

 The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are
 extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC
 or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV.

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 We are creating far more than we ever used to though.  Social networking is
 a big driver of this.  Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical
 internet connections can become an issue.

 ** **

 Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t
 imagine working on one all day at %work%.  My productivity would greatly
 diminish as it would for 99% of my users.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates
 of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected
 in modern cable Download/Upload splits.

 YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks
 that the consumption side is more relevant.

 Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. 

 --

 *From: *Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 

 *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700

 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

 *Subject: *Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an
 Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as
 well.


 I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so
 useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have
 the ability to consume it.

 The converse isn't true.

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use
 cases.

 Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. 
 --

 *From: *James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au 

 *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +

 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

 *Subject: *RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 And to me.  The backspace key is my friend!

  

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM
 


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.
 *

 To you.
 

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*

 ** **

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or 

Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
There's more verbal support against dismissing tablets as a viable computing
device for many people -- and businesses.

* *

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Technology for the SMB market…

*



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:40 AM, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.auwrote:

   Agreed.  There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side
 of the discussion.

 ** **

 Horses for courses.

 ** **

 *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who
 are suggesting such.

 ** **

 The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are
 extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC
 or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV.

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 We are creating far more than we ever used to though.  Social networking is
 a big driver of this.  Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical
 internet connections can become an issue.

 ** **

 Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t
 imagine working on one all day at %work%.  My productivity would greatly
 diminish as it would for 99% of my users.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates
 of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected
 in modern cable Download/Upload splits.

 YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks
 that the consumption side is more relevant.

 Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. 
  --

 *From: *Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 

 *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700

 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

 *Subject: *Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an
 Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as
 well.

 I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so
 useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have
 the ability to consume it.

 The converse isn't true.

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use
 cases.

 Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. 
  --

 *From: *James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au 

 *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +

 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

 *Subject: *RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 And to me.  The backspace key is my friend!

  

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.
 *

 To you.
 

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*

 ** **

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost differential - once you take into account the
 peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
 laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
 supposed advantages.

 Kurt

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You're still mostly wooshing here.
 
  Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often
  appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT.  I, of course, know
  that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing
  department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to
  the data, and this was 

RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

2011-08-24 Thread Sean Rector
I know I'm not following best practice, but my Hyper-V hosts are running 
Datacenter Ed. and are my DCs.

Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association

E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)

  _

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tue 8/23/2011 7:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...



If you are down, you call them and tell them you are down and that it is a 
business critical event. I don't know what the fee for that is, but you are 
supposed to get a callback in 30 minutes 24x7x365.



Regards,



Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [Microsoft support] Is it me...



..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? 
I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other 
I get support times of 6a-6pm.
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847



I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call 
them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was 
requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC  
it needed to talk to!



Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have 
some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7?

David Lum
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Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764



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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop,*

You may not have noticed, but laptop sales have long eclipsed desktop sales,
even though desktops remain capable of much more power than laptops,
particularly at the same price points.


   -
   
http://www.techshout.com/laptops/2008/24/laptop-sales-overtake-desktop-pc-sales/
   -
   
http://news.techworld.com/sme/3227696/desktop-and-laptop-sales-to-grow-this-year/



Power is not the only consideration in a computing purchase, and is often
not even the *primary *consideration.

* *

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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 My point is that it's important to have the most capable device first.
 Anything else should come thereafter.

 As a much less capable device, a tablet is a luxury, and should not
 replace a computer. Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop,
 and for a company a desktop should not supplant a server where a
 server is needed.

 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:18, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
  Many such devices are cheaper than a computer with its all-important
 keyboard.
 
  So what is your point?
 
  -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
 
  This point seems to be lost on many.
 
 
 
  There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not
 require a full “computer”, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop,
 actually can be a disadvantage.
 
 
 
  There’s room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some
 time.
 
  Only if you can afford them all.
 



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Re: Cisco VPN Router?

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
No.   If you already have the Juniper device, and IPSEC tunnel can easily be
setup between the two.

* *

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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Paul Hutchings
paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote:

  I’ve not dealt with any Cisco kit for a long time.  If we want to create
 a site-to-site VPN tunnel to another location that used Cisco kit to
 terminate the connection, is there any benefit in going with a Cisco device
 vs. a Juniper?

 ** **

 I’ve not done too much with site to site VPN’s but my understanding is that
 whilst the implementation and terminology may vary between manufacturers,
 the underlying protocols should be compatible?


 Thanks,

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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Scot Parsons
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From: Jonathan Link
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Wed Aug 24 00:00:59 2011
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

Seriously and demonstrably wrong. He types from his iPad. I wouldn't write a 
novel, short story or essay on it but I've written all but two of my replies to 
you from thi iPad.

On Tuesday, August 23, 2011, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 And to anyone who needs to express thoughts to others beyond the silliness 
 that is 'u gng show night' with any regularity.

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:03, Andrew S. Baker 
 asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.

 To you.

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 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost differential - once you take into account the
 peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
 laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
 supposed advantages.

 Kurt

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link 
 jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
  You're still mostly wooshing here.
 
  Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often
  appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT.  I, of course, know
  that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing
  department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to
  the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC
  networks.
  And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks?  I know a lot of
  administrators are crunching these numbers right now...
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff 
  kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link 
  jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture
   of
   days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution.
 
  Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server
  administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the
  minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes.
 
   The current generation
   of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since
   then.
 
  Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced.
 
   Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they
   believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing
   content!
 
  The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show
  is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger
  screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still
  need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking,
  and the price is still too high.
 
  Kurt
 

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RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

2011-08-24 Thread John Leto
Yes what Sherry said, quit insulting me by saying I'm in Dallas! -)

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

Actually, technically, he's in Fort Worth.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

A - You're in Dallas.
B - You added a comparison to ATT.

:)

ASB

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, John Leto 
jo...@colonialsavings.commailto:jo...@colonialsavings.com wrote:
We've had excellent luck with TW Telecom especially compared to ATT. We are 
based in the Dallas Fort Worth area but have branches across the country.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

You're forcing us to compare between TWTC and Comcurst?   Ouch.

Run far away from TWTC.
Run far away from Comcurst -- even for their so-called business class service 
(with its general lack of SLAs the last time I looked)

Do you have any other option?

ASB

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Robert LeBlanc 
robert.lebl...@aanmpc.commailto:robert.lebl...@aanmpc.com wrote:
Howdy folks,

Can anyone give any insight (good and bad) to Comcasts Business Class internet 
service. Our service agreement with TWtelecom ends in a few months and it seems 
that Comcast can blow TW's prices out of the water. But then again it's Comcast 
and since they don't offer an SLA in their agreement and some things I've heard 
in the past such as oversubscribing, outages, bandwidth speed dropping, etc 
concerns me. We may just use it as a backup service but have talked about 
replacing our primary service with it. We are a relatively small shop and 
operate now with a 4Mb up and down with a 1.5 DSL as backup that also handles 
wireless. We are looking at Comcasts 22Mb/2Mb service. Thanks for any input and 
feel free to contact off list as well. Oh yeah and here in New Mexico Comcast 
currently operates with their DOCSIS2.0 but is upgrading infrastructure to 
DOCSIS3.0

Robert



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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Pete Howard
Did you find one!? I've been looking to pick up a couple HP tabs at that price 
too

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't either...At least, not for a few more days.  :)
 
 I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm 
 willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device.  But, it could 
 easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a laptop 
 that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern *might* 
 favor such a device.   We'll see.
 
 ASB
 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
 Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 
 wrote:
 Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet.
 
  
 
 I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather 
 dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a 
 compelling use for them.
 
  
 
 -sc
 
  
 
 From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM
 
 
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
 
 Agreed.  There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of 
 the discussion.
 
  
 
 Horses for courses.
 
  
 
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM
 
 
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
 
 I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are 
 suggesting such.
 
  
 
 The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely 
 well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, 
 any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV.
 
  
 
 -sc
 
  
 
 From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM
 
 
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
 
 We are creating far more than we ever used to though.  Social networking is a 
 big driver of this.  Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical 
 internet connections can become an issue.
 
  
 
 Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t 
 imagine working on one all day at %work%.  My productivity would greatly 
 diminish as it would for 99% of my users.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
 
 You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 
 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in 
 modern cable Download/Upload splits. 
 
 
 YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks 
 that the consumption side is more relevant. 
 
 Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable.
 From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
 
 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700
 
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
  
 
 Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an 
 Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well.
 
 
 
 I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so 
 useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have 
 the ability to consume it.
 
 The converse isn't true.
 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use 
 cases. 
 
 Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant.
 
 From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au
 
 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +
 
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
  
 
 And to me.  The backspace key is my friend!
 
  
 
 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM
 
 
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
 
 The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.
 
 To you.
 
 ASB
 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
 Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
 
  
 
 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost differential - 

Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Pete Howard
You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an 
elevated cmd prompt ?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one 
 computer to another?  I found the registry key:
 
  
 
 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint 
 Protection\AV\Exclusions]
 
  
 
 I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied. 
  I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any clues?
 
  
 
 Thanks
 
  
 
  
 
 Carl Webster
 
 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
 
 http://www.CarlWebster.com
 
  
 
  
 
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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread John Hornbuckle
The DX is black and white-just with a bigger screen.

E-ink seems to be the best for long-term reading because (A.) it's easy on the 
eyes and (B.) it requires just a trickle of power from a battery. But to be 
feasible for textbooks, it has to support color.

China's Hanvon makes a color e-ink reader, but the technology is still very 
new. The colors aren't bright, and screen-draws are slow.

Maybe in a year or two these will be ready for prime time.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us





From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

Look again on Amazon I was told what I was looking at was a color Kindle they 
are larger than the B/W Kindle colors looked good but like I said that is all 
the look I got at it.

I think this is what I was looking at.  
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reading-Display-Generation/dp/B002GYWHSQ/ref=sa_menu_kdx23.
  It does not say one way or the other.  Maybe I was told wrong!

I sure wish the kids would have let me have a better look at it.

Jon Harris
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 
wrote:
There's no color Kindle, as far as I know. I think there's a color Nook, but it 
doesn't use e-ink-so it's a backlit display, and much lower battery life.

E-ink is very easy on the eyes. My wife has a Kindle, and loves it. It runs 
forever on a charge, and is easy to read-including in bright sunlight. There's 
no color, though. That's fine for reading novels and such, but for kids' 
textbooks color is a must.


John



From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:57 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

John, do you know if anyone is looking at either the nook or kindle color e-ink 
devices?  I just saw my first kindle one this weekend and while the kids that 
had it were happy as a clam with what it could do I could not tell, the kids 
would not share with me, if e-books looked that much better or not.

Jon

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RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Webster
Tried that.  Gave up.  Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP 
that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff.  This customer had decided 
on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1.  Decisions like that make me glad I 
charge by the hour! ☺  I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all 
six Citrix XenApp servers.

BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server 
can really screw things up.  They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over 
the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a thing.  Monday 
morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted 
profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and their main 
accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do any 
accounting work.  12 man-hours later they were back running.

BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain 
Controller can also really foul up the works.

ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an 
elevated cmd prompt ?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster 
webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one 
computer to another?  I found the registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint 
Protection\AV\Exclusions]

I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied.  
I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any clues?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com



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RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server 
can also really foul up the works.

BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can 
also really foul up the works.

And your other comment is spot on! ☺

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

Tried that.  Gave up.  Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP 
that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff.  This customer had decided 
on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1.  Decisions like that make me glad I 
charge by the hour! ☺  I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all 
six Citrix XenApp servers.

BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server 
can really screw things up.  They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over 
the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a thing.  Monday 
morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted 
profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and their main 
accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do any 
accounting work.  12 man-hours later they were back running.

BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain 
Controller can also really foul up the works.

ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


From: Pete Howard 
[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an 
elevated cmd prompt ?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster 
webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one 
computer to another?  I found the registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint 
Protection\AV\Exclusions]

I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied.  
I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any clues?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com



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Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread James Rankin
There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp,
without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working
effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure
another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints.

The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application
management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever
does. I'm tempted to run a few systems *without *standard AV, but my current
emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-)

On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

  BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange
 Server can also really foul up the works.

 ** **

 BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server
 can also really foul up the works.

 ** **

 And your other comment is spot on! J

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 ** **

 *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

  ** **

 Tried that.  Gave up.  Found some posts saying in the managed version of
 SEP that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff.  This customer had
 decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1.  Decisions like that make me
 glad I charge by the hour! J  I wound up just manually entering the
 exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers.

 ** **

 BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp
 server can really screw things up.  They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp
 servers over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such
 a thing.  Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were
 getting corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never
 terminate and their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so
 no one could do any accounting work.  12 man-hours later they were back
 running.

 ** **

 BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain
 Controller can also really foul up the works.

 ** **

 ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.

 ** **

 Thanks

 ** **

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

 ** **

 You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an
 elevated cmd prompt ?

 Sent from my iPad


 On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

  My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from
 one computer to another?  I found the registry key:

  

 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint
 Protection\AV\Exclusions]

  

 I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access
 denied.  I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any
 clues?

  

 Thanks

  

  

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com

  

  

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On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of 

Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I may have...I'll be able to confirm today.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Aug 24, 2011 8:38 AM, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Did you find one!? I've been looking to pick up a couple HP tabs at that
price too

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't either... At least, not for a few more days. :)

 I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm
willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device. But, it could
easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a laptop
that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern *might*
favor such a device. We'll see.

 ASB
 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
 Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…




 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
 Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet.



 I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather
dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a
compelling use for them.



 -sc



 From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares


 Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side
of the discussion.



 Horses for courses.



 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares


 I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who
are suggesting such.



 The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are
extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC
or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV.



 -sc



 From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares


 We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking
is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and
non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue.



 Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I
couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would
greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users.





 From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]

 Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares


 You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud
rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's
reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits.


 YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many
folks that the consumption side is more relevant.

 Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable.
 From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com

 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares



 Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own
an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as
well.



 I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so
useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have
the ability to consume it.

 The converse isn't true.
 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption
use cases.

 Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant.

 From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au

 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares



 And to me. The backspace key is my friend!



 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]

 Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares


 The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.

 To you.

 ASB
 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
 Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…



 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost 

RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
I've got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user desktops 
and therefore chose to not run standard AV.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, 
without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, 
either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another 
particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints.

The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application 
management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. 
I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current emplyer 
won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-)
On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server 
can also really foul up the works.

BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can 
also really foul up the works.

And your other comment is spot on! :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

Tried that.  Gave up.  Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP 
that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff.  This customer had decided 
on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1.  Decisions like that make me glad I 
charge by the hour! :)  I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all 
six Citrix XenApp servers.

BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server 
can really screw things up.  They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over 
the weekend and didn't tell me they were even planning on such a thing.  Monday 
morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted 
profile, couldn't log off and sessions would never terminate and their main 
accounting app's executable kept being blocked so no one could do any 
accounting work.  12 man-hours later they were back running.

BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain 
Controller can also really foul up the works.

ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


From: Pete Howard 
[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an 
elevated cmd prompt ?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster 
webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one 
computer to another?  I found the registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint 
Protection\AV\Exclusions]

I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied.  
I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any clues?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com



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RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Well advised, frankly, for certain classes of server.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Aug 24, 2011 9:19 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 I've got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user
desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV.

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 Consultant and Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

 There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp,
without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working
effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure
another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints.

 The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application
management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever
does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current
emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-)
 On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:
mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange
Server can also really foul up the works.

 BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server
can also really foul up the works.

 And your other comment is spot on! :)

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 Consultant and Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.commailto:
webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

 Tried that. Gave up. Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP
that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff. This customer had
decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1. Decisions like that make me
glad I charge by the hour! :) I wound up just manually entering the
exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers.

 BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp
server can really screw things up. They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp
servers over the weekend and didn't tell me they were even planning on such
a thing. Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were
getting corrupted profile, couldn't log off and sessions would never
terminate and their main accounting app's executable kept being blocked so
no one could do any accounting work. 12 man-hours later they were back
running.

 BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain
Controller can also really foul up the works.

 ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.

 Thanks


 Carl Webster
 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
 http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


 From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:
pchow...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

 You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from
an elevated cmd prompt ?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:
webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
 My GoogleFu is failing me. Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one
computer to another? I found the registry key:

 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint
Protection\AV\Exclusions]

 I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access
denied. I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go. Any
clues?

 Thanks


 Carl Webster
 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
 http://www.CarlWebster.com



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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Pete Howard
Let me know off list so Kurt doesnt scoop them all up :)

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I may have...I'll be able to confirm today.
 
 -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker
 
 Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Aug 24, 2011 8:38 AM, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Did you find one!? I've been looking to pick up a couple HP tabs at that 
  price too
  
  Sent from my iPad
  
  On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  I don't either... At least, not for a few more days. :)
  
  I went after the HP TouchPad fire sale, because $99 is a price point I'm 
  willing to entertain *in my own home* for this type of device. But, it 
  could easily become my wife's next primary computing device, as she has a 
  laptop that is getting a little long in the tooth, and her usage pattern 
  *might* favor such a device. We'll see.
  
  ASB
  http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
  Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
  
  
  
  
  On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 
  wrote:
  Interestingly enough I don’t have a tablet.
  
  
  
  I just find the “there’s no compelling reason for them” to be rather 
  dismissive of the large groups of people that… well... have found a 
  compelling use for them.
  
  
  
  -sc
  
  
  
  From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 AM
  
  
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
  
  Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of 
  the discussion.
  
  
  
  Horses for courses.
  
  
  
  From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM
  
  
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
  
  I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who 
  are suggesting such.
  
  
  
  The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are 
  extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown 
  PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV.
  
  
  
  -sc
  
  
  
  From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM
  
  
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
  
  We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is 
  a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical 
  internet connections can become an issue.
  
  
  
  Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I 
  couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would 
  greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users.
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
  
  You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates 
  of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's 
  reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. 
  
  
  YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many 
  folks that the consumption side is more relevant. 
  
  Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable.
  From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
  
  Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700
  
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  
  ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
  
  
  Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own 
  an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as 
  well.
  
  
  
  I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so 
  useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have 
  the ability to consume it.
  
  The converse isn't true.
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use 
  cases. 
  
  Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant.
  
  From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au
  
  Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +
  
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  
  ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  
  Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
  
  
  And to me. The backspace key is my friend!
  
  
  
  From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM
  
  
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
  
  
  The loss of a 

Re: Earthquake!!!!!!

2011-08-24 Thread Cameron
Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider 
sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote:

  I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here.

 ** **

 *From:* Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
 *Sent:* August-23-11 2:46 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!!

   ** **

 Felt it here in Columbia, SC. 

 ** **

 *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!!

 ** **

 I was gonna post up…

 ** **

 Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila
 airport.

 ** **

 First time for me.

 ** **

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com

 [image: Description: Frog Signature]

 ** **

 *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* OT: Earthquake!!

 ** **

 Anyone on east coast feel it?  We did here in Pennsylvania.


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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Again, nobody is espousing tablets as wholesale REPLACEMENTS for computers. 
They are useful adjuncts in many cases.

 the most capable device first

And therein lies the rub. Most cable for WHAT usage scenario? There are a bunch 
where  tablet is MORE capable than a larger/more powerful device.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:45 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 My point is that it's important to have the most capable device first.
 Anything else should come thereafter.
 
 As a much less capable device, a tablet is a luxury, and should not replace a
 computer. Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop, and for a
 company a desktop should not supplant a server where a server is needed.
 
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:18, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
  Many such devices are cheaper than a computer with its all-important
 keyboard.
 
  So what is your point?
 
  -sc
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare
 scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 
  This point seems to be lost on many.
 
 
 
  There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not
 require a full “computer”, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop,
 actually can be a disadvantage.
 
 
 
  There’s room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some
 time.
 
  Only if you can afford them all.
 
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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
This all sounds vaguely familiar... is it September of 2010?

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

Actually, to be absolutely candid, it is a discussion about making bold
assertions without being able to to support them.  Because one doesn't
find utility in a device doesn't mean that others can't find utility. To
say something is crippled because it meet some arbitrary requirement is
silly. 

On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au
wrote:
 Agreed.  There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet
side of the discussion.

  

 Horses for courses.

  

 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 I don't think you'll find many of the posts here are from proponents
who are suggesting such.

  

 The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are
extremely well suited. But that doesn't obviate the need for a
full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for
an SUV.

  

 -sc

  

 From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 We are creating far more than we ever used to though.  Social
networking is a big driver of this.  Then add things like bit torrent
and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue.

  

 Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I
couldn't imagine working on one all day at %work%.  My productivity
would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users.

  

  

 From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud
rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's
reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits.

 YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many
folks that the consumption side is more relevant.

 Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable.

 

 From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com

 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only
own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon
that as well.

 I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are
so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically
have the ability to consume it.

 The converse isn't true.

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption
use cases.

 Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant.

 

 From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au

 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

 And to me.  The backspace key is my friend!

  

 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

  

The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed
advantages.

 To you.

 ASB

 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker

 Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

  

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost differential - once you take into account the
 peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
 laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
 supposed advantages.

 Kurt

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
wrote:
 You're still mostly wooshing here.

 Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it
often
 appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT.  I, of course,
know
 that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data
processing
 department was subsumed in many organizations by business 

RE: Cisco VPN Router?

2011-08-24 Thread Paul Hutchings
Thanks.  That's how I understood it, just wanted to ensure I hadn't missed a 
trick.

Paul

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 August 2011 12:39
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN Router?

No.   If you already have the Juniper device, and IPSEC tunnel can easily be 
setup between the two.
ASB

http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker

Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Paul Hutchings 
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I've not dealt with any Cisco kit for a long time.  If we want to create a 
site-to-site VPN tunnel to another location that used Cisco kit to terminate 
the connection, is there any benefit in going with a Cisco device vs. a Juniper?

I've not done too much with site to site VPN's but my understanding is that 
whilst the implementation and terminology may vary between manufacturers, the 
underlying protocols should be compatible?

Thanks,
Paul

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RE: Earthquake!!!!!!

2011-08-24 Thread Scott Schneider
I live in Barrie but work in Holland Landing

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: August-24-11 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Earthquake!!

 

Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider 
sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote:

I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here.

 

From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] 
Sent: August-23-11 2:46 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Earthquake!!

 

Felt it here in Columbia, SC. 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Earthquake!!

 

I was gonna post up...

 

Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila
airport.

 

First time for me.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

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Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Earthquake!!

 

Anyone on east coast feel it?  We did here in Pennsylvania. 


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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Another: Forms data entry on a device with a clipboard-ish form factor
with field level validation and back-end real-time processing logic.
Think the multi-billion dollar medical industry as just ONE example.
There are many, MANY others (insurance adjusters, inspection personnel,
legal transcribing, etc...)

 

Significantly more legit than a couple of kids seeing Twilight at the
movies...

 

-sc

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

Again, you're largely extrapolating a personal preference into a global
phenomenon.

There are a variety of tools, including Swype, which exist to make it
easy to post long documents if you really need to, from a device like a
smart phone, much less a tablet.

Your personal preference does not indicate viability, nor will it
inhibit adoption.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid via Swype

On Aug 23, 2011 11:51 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 And to anyone who needs to express thoughts to others beyond the
silliness
 that is 'u gng show night' with any regularity.
 
 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:03, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 *The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed
advantages.
 *

 To you.

 * *

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 Technology for the SMB market...

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 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
 tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
 digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
 given the cost differential - once you take into account the
 peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more
traditional
 laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
 supposed advantages.

 Kurt

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link
jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You're still mostly wooshing here.
 
  Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it
often
  appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of
course,
 know
  that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data
 processing
  department was subsumed in many organizations by business units
closer
 to
  the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and
PC
  networks.
  And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a
lot
 of
  administrators are crunching these numbers right now...
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link
jonathan.l...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to
 pasture
   of
   days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution.
 
  Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today -
server
  administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's
the
  minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on
mainframes.
 
   The current generation
   of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology
since
   then.
 
  Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced.
 
   Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets
because
 they
   believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and
 distributing
   content!
 
  The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they
show
  is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a
larger
  screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you
still
  need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still
lacking,
  and the price is still too high.
 
  Kurt
 

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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Jonathan Link
Groundhog Day.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

 This all sounds vaguely familiar… is it September of 2010?

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:53 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 Actually, to be absolutely candid, it is a discussion about making bold
 assertions without being able to to support them.  Because one doesn't find
 utility in a device doesn't mean that others can't find utility. To say
 something is crippled because it meet some arbitrary requirement is silly.

 On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au
 wrote:
  Agreed.  There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side
 of the discussion.
 
 
 
  Horses for courses.
 
 
 
  From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM

  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 
 
  I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who
 are suggesting such.
 
 
 
  The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are
 extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC
 or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV.
 
 
 
  -sc
 
 
 
  From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM

  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 
 
  We are creating far more than we ever used to though.  Social networking
 is a big driver of this.  Then add things like bit torrent and
 non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue.
 
 
 
  Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I
 couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%.  My productivity would
 greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM

  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 
 
  You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud
 rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's
 reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits.
 
  YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many
 folks that the consumption side is more relevant.
 
  Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable.
 
  
 
  From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
 
  Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700
 
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
  ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 
 
  Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own
 an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as
 well.
 
  I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so
 useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have
 the ability to consume it.
 
  The converse isn't true.
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption
 use cases.
 
  Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant.
 
  
 
  From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au
 
  Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +
 
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
  ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
  Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 
 
  And to me.  The backspace key is my friend!
 
 
 
  From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM

 
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 
 
 The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.
 
  To you.
 
  ASB
 
  http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
 
  Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
  tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
  digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
  given the cost differential - once you take into account the
  peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
  laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
  supposed advantages.
 
  Kurt
 
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You're still mostly wooshing here.
 
  Never did I 

RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
For 95% of users a laptop suffices, and is often preferable. Given a
choice here, most every standard user will take the laptop.

 

We are moving to laptop/docking station usage here, with the idea that
telework and hoteling will provide much greater flexibility, and a
laptop with 2-4 CPU cores and 4GB of RAM in a widescreen display handles
the vast majority of office-productivity requirements.

 

-sc

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop,

 

You may not have noticed, but laptop sales have long eclipsed desktop
sales, even though desktops remain capable of much more power than
laptops, particularly at the same price points.

*
http://www.techshout.com/laptops/2008/24/laptop-sales-overtake-desktop-p
c-sales/
*
http://news.techworld.com/sme/3227696/desktop-and-laptop-sales-to-grow-t
his-year/



Power is not the only consideration in a computing purchase, and is
often not even the primary consideration.


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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

My point is that it's important to have the most capable device first.
Anything else should come thereafter.

As a much less capable device, a tablet is a luxury, and should not
replace a computer. Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop,
and for a company a desktop should not supplant a server where a
server is needed.


On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:18, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
 Many such devices are cheaper than a computer with its all-important
keyboard.

 So what is your point?


 -sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]

 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:56 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares


 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare
scaes...@caesare.com wrote:

 This point seems to be lost on many.



 There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do
not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even
laptop, actually can be a disadvantage.



 There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some
time.


 Only if you can afford them all.


 

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Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Kurt Buff
Isolated in what way?

Just a separate subnet, or on a separate subnet with a firewall (or
router with ACLs)?

Or something more than that?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 06:17, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 I’ve got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user
 desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions



 There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp,
 without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working
 effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure
 another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints.

 The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application
 management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever
 does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current
 emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-)

 On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange
 Server can also really foul up the works.



 BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server
 can also really foul up the works.



 And your other comment is spot on! J



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions



 Tried that.  Gave up.  Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP
 that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff.  This customer had
 decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1.  Decisions like that make me
 glad I charge by the hour! J  I wound up just manually entering the
 exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers.



 BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server
 can really screw things up.  They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers
 over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a
 thing.  Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting
 corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and
 their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do
 any accounting work.  12 man-hours later they were back running.



 BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain
 Controller can also really foul up the works.



 ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.



 Thanks





 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com





 From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions



 You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an
 elevated cmd prompt ?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one
 computer to another?  I found the registry key:



 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint
 Protection\AV\Exclusions]



 I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access
 denied.  I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any
 clues?



 Thanks





 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com





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RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

2011-08-24 Thread Robert LeBlanc
Thanks for the reply's all. We've had good reliability and service, voice and 
data, with TW and personally think the Comcast party line is a bad idea. 
Although cheap may go for it for it as a backup alternative.

From: John Leto [mailto:jo...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 06:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

Yes what Sherry said, quit insulting me by saying I'm in Dallas! -)

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

Actually, technically, he's in Fort Worth.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

A - You're in Dallas.
B - You added a comparison to ATT.

:)
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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, John Leto 
jo...@colonialsavings.commailto:jo...@colonialsavings.com wrote:
We've had excellent luck with TW Telecom especially compared to ATT. We are 
based in the Dallas Fort Worth area but have branches across the country.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Business Class Comcast internet Service

You're forcing us to compare between TWTC and Comcurst?   Ouch.

Run far away from TWTC.
Run far away from Comcurst -- even for their so-called business class service 
(with its general lack of SLAs the last time I looked)

Do you have any other option?

ASB

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Robert LeBlanc 
robert.lebl...@aanmpc.commailto:robert.lebl...@aanmpc.com wrote:
Howdy folks,

Can anyone give any insight (good and bad) to Comcasts Business Class internet 
service. Our service agreement with TWtelecom ends in a few months and it seems 
that Comcast can blow TW's prices out of the water. But then again it's Comcast 
and since they don't offer an SLA in their agreement and some things I've heard 
in the past such as oversubscribing, outages, bandwidth speed dropping, etc 
concerns me. We may just use it as a backup service but have talked about 
replacing our primary service with it. We are a relatively small shop and 
operate now with a 4Mb up and down with a 1.5 DSL as backup that also handles 
wireless. We are looking at Comcasts 22Mb/2Mb service. Thanks for any input and 
feel free to contact off list as well. Oh yeah and here in New Mexico Comcast 
currently operates with their DOCSIS2.0 but is upgrading infrastructure to 
DOCSIS3.0

Robert



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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
 You would think I said I eat kittens.  ;)

 

There's an app for that.

 

-sc

 

From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

Goodness.

 

You would think I said I eat kittens.  ;)

 

I did say personally.   I didn't say there was no use for them.

 

Certain job functions they are extremely usefully.Our marketing guys
use them for presentations and email for example.

 

Unfortunately; I still need a laptop for certain things..

 

 

Thanks,

Mathew

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

And there are folks who do media creation and review for which they are
10x more convenient than a laptop. The org that we have a support
contract with is doing a medical survey involving 100,000 subjects, and
they are far more useful as a clipboard replacement than a laptop
would be.

 

Just because you don't find them to be a value proposition doesn't mean
there aren't very valid use cases for them.

 

-sc

 

From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

Well?  

 

I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for
my kid.If somebody gave me one, I would use it.

 

Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the
adults.

 

Thanks,

Mathew

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

This point seems to be lost on many.

 

There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not
require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop,
actually can be a disadvantage.

 

There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some
time.

 

-sc

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

If you insist on using a tablet exactly as a PC (or even a laptop), then
you'll be sorely disappointed. 

Most people who adopt them (tablets) use the new tool differently from
the old tool.

It's not like most people with laptops in a corporate environment are
actually using a reasonable percentage of its inherent advantages.
Additionally, many people are using their smart phones which are even
more inconvenient than tablets, to accomplish some of the work they used
to perform on PCs.  Tablets give them a *richer* experience, from this
standpoint, hence the growing adoption rate.

I'm pretty sure that is we substitute PC for tablet and go back
16-20 years, there'd be no distinguishing the arguments being used.

Yet, here we are.

ASB

http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker

Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

 

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
given the cost differential - once you take into account the
peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
supposed advantages.

Kurt

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
wrote:
 You're still mostly wooshing here.

 Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often
 appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT.  I, of course,
know
 that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data
processing
 department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer
to
 the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC
 networks.
 And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks?  I know a
lot of
 administrators are crunching these numbers right now...

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link
jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to
pasture
  of
  days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution.

 Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server
 administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the
 minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on
mainframes.

  The current generation
  of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology
since
  then.

 Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced.

  Teachers and administrators are very interested in 

RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Voicemail systems msgs: check.

 

Training videos: check.

 

Lectures: check.

 

Etc...

 

-sc

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in
most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the
predominant type of business document.

 

 

John

 

 

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 

True.

 

Unlike time past, where a file was expected to be some PC-centric thing
(a Word doc, spreadsheet, configuration file, etc...) Everything is a
file these days:

 

You music? Check.

 

Movies? Check

 

Pictures? Check.

 

 

Heck, I suspect most people have more _NON-PC_ devices consuming files
than PC's these days...

 

-sc

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 


Accessing documents is a PC thing?

Is email a PC thing?  What about web browsing?

It's not like the request was to create 3D movies via a tablet, which
one could argue is more of a PC thing...

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Aug 23, 2011 8:30 AM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 Agreed. Which was my point very early in this thread-we need to pick
the right tool for the right job. What started this discussion was
essentially a question of how to get an iPad to do PC stuff, which
implies that maybe the iPad isn't the right tool for that particular
job.
 
 I'm a Disney junkie, so I found this interesting:
 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8Pv
sRqjkg
 
 It's a good use of iPads in design and construction.
 
 But for all the talk of tablets replacing PCs, this video shows that
we're not there yet. Watch closely, and you'll see that the video opens
showing an Imagineer's iPad sitting on top of his PC.
 
 And not just any PC, but a laptop-the specific devices that tablets
are said to be rapidly displacing.
 
 Of course, he's also running Windows XP. So I have my doubts about how
technologically progressive WDI is. :)
 
 
 John
 
 
 
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:21 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 This point seems to be lost on many.
 
 There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not
require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop,
actually can be a disadvantage.
 
 There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some
time.
 
 -sc
 
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RE: Earthquake!!!!!!

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Friggin’ Mexican food.

 

-sc

 

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Earthquake!!

 

-sc?  Is that you?

 - WJR



On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 15:16, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

I didn't feel anything either, except during my bathroom break...felt some 
rumbles there.

 

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

Not even a tremor here in Durham, UK. :-)

Sent from my POS BlackBerry  wireless device, which may wipe itself at any 
moment

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Subject: RE: Earthquake!!


I did not feel a thing here in north-central Georgia mountains.




From: Jeff Bunting [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:59 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Earthquake!!

felt a little tremor down in Roanoke...

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
It’s centered just 25 miles east of me. Yes, I felt it. ☺

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/usc0005ild.php

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Earthquake!!

Anyone on east coast feel it?  We did here in Pennsylvania.


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Re: Earthquake!!!!!!

2011-08-24 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
Where's Charleton Heston and Karen Black when you need 'em!



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont.

 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider 
 sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote:

  I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here.

 ** **

 *From:* Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
 *Sent:* August-23-11 2:46 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!!

   ** **

 Felt it here in Columbia, SC. 

 ** **

 *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Earthquake!!

 ** **

 I was gonna post up…

 ** **

 Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila
 airport.

 ** **

 First time for me.

 ** **

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

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 Fax: 610-233-0404

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 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* OT: Earthquake!!

 ** **

 Anyone on east coast feel it?  We did here in Pennsylvania.


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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread John Hornbuckle
I didn't say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the enterprise. 
I said that for MOST enterprises, they're not the PREDOMINANT document type.

Or maybe we're just the exception in this regard, and other organizations are 
consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are.


John


From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

Voicemail systems msgs: check.

Training videos: check.

Lectures: check.

Etc...

-sc

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most 
enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of 
business document.


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RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Crawford, Scott
Absolutely. I'd go further and say they just need to be isolated from running 
non-approved code.  A file server can have its shares full of viruses, but its 
not a problem for the system if nobody executes the code ON the server.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

I've got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user desktops 
and therefore chose to not run standard AV.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp, 
without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working effectively, 
either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure another 
particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints.

The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application 
management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever does. 
I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current emplyer 
won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-)
On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange Server 
can also really foul up the works.

BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server can 
also really foul up the works.

And your other comment is spot on! :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

Tried that.  Gave up.  Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP 
that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff.  This customer had decided 
on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1.  Decisions like that make me glad I 
charge by the hour! :)  I wound up just manually entering the exclusions on all 
six Citrix XenApp servers.

BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server 
can really screw things up.  They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers over 
the weekend and didn't tell me they were even planning on such a thing.  Monday 
morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting corrupted 
profile, couldn't log off and sessions would never terminate and their main 
accounting app's executable kept being blocked so no one could do any 
accounting work.  12 man-hours later they were back running.

BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain 
Controller can also really foul up the works.

ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


From: Pete Howard 
[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an 
elevated cmd prompt ?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster 
webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one 
computer to another?  I found the registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint 
Protection\AV\Exclusions]

I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access denied.  
I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any clues?

Thanks


Carl Webster
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RE: Earthquake!!!!!!

2011-08-24 Thread Rod Trent
On my Netflix.

 

From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Earthquake!!

 

Where's Charleton Heston and Karen Black when you need 'em!




On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote:

Barrie?...It shook our building in Mississauga, Ont.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Scott Schneider 
sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com wrote:

I am an hour north of Toronto Ontario and we felt it here.

 

From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] 
Sent: August-23-11 2:46 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Earthquake!!

 

Felt it here in Columbia, SC. 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Earthquake!!

 

I was gonna post up…

 

Yes, here in King of Prussia and my kids reported it near the Phila airport.

 

First time for me.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 

Fax: 610-233-0404

 http://www.fiserv.com/ www.fiserv.com

Description: Frog Signature

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Earthquake!!

 

Anyone on east coast feel it?  We did here in Pennsylvania. 



Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
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Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Jonathan Link
Really?  My experience with education institutions is that they are
voracious consumers multimedia.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:47 AM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 I didn’t say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the
 enterprise. I said that for MOST enterprises, they’re not the PREDOMINANT
 document type.

 ** **

 Or maybe we’re just the exception in this regard, and other organizations
 are consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are.

 ** **

 ** **

 John

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 Voicemail systems msgs: check.

 ** **

 Training videos: check.

 ** **

 Lectures: check.

 ** **

 Etc…

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

 ** **

 We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most
 enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn’t be the predominant type of
 business document.

 ** **

 ** **

 John

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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread John Hornbuckle
Depends on the job. For administrative staff, not so much.


John


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

Really?  My experience with education institutions is that they are voracious 
consumers multimedia.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:47 AM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 
wrote:
I didn't say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the enterprise. 
I said that for MOST enterprises, they're not the PREDOMINANT document type.

Or maybe we're just the exception in this regard, and other organizations are 
consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are.


John


From: Steven M. Caesare 
[mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

Voicemail systems msgs: check.

Training videos: check.

Lectures: check.

Etc...

-sc

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most 
enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of 
business document.


John

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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Guyer, Don
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Orginizational Q

 

So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an
SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal
and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who
is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's
largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a
DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the
Active Directory and server infrastructure.

 

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
your guys' teams that manage AD and servers?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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RE: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers

2011-08-24 Thread Ken Schaefer
For such an attack that caused $300k damage, it seems that this only affected a 
relatively small org. Small orgs tend not to have the enormous amount of risk 
management and process (ITIL or otherwise) that large organisations have.

Large orgs also have their problems, but something as routine as employee 
termination does tend to have a standard procedure that does get followed 
(well, maybe they can still access the carpark).

We have a small mountain of documentation to cover thousands of procedures - 
but there are probably still gaps.

From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of Lee 
Douglas
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 9:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers

Hard to believe they didn't bother to change the passwords, but maybe not.

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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread James Rankin
Heard of all sorts of stuff

Server and Directory Services
Domain Services
Backbone Services
Distributed Service Management

Whatever floats your boat really - although I used to work as Network
Administrator in a job where I handled everything *but* the network, so
keeping it at least mildly relevant might be an idea

On 24 August 2011 16:08, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

 So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
 team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
 client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is
 effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely
 a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
 so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory
 and server infrastructure.

 ** **

 What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
 your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?

 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread James Rankin
I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team...

Get yourself one of these - I have one
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 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Orginizational Q

 ** **

 So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
 team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
 client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is
 effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely
 a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
 so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory
 and server infrastructure.

 ** **

 What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
 your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?

 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Steve Ens
Watched the movie this weekend.  It wasn't that bad.  I love the Murdoch
character - the guy from District 7...Van de Merwe I think.  Funny guy.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team...

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 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Orginizational Q

 ** **

 So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
 team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
 client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is
 effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely
 a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
 so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active
 Directory and server infrastructure.

 ** **

 What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
 your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?

 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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 this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer,
 because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
 afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. *

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 information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a
 pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But
 should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it,
 and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However,
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 what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! *

 * The comments and opinions expressed 

RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Crawford, Scott
I loved it. Most satisfying movie I can remember.  Not necessarily the best, 
but it was everything I wanted it to be.  Incorporating all the elements of the 
show without being blatant ripoffs.

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Orginizational Q

Watched the movie this weekend.  It wasn't that bad.  I love the Murdoch 
character - the guy from District 7...Van de Merwe I think.  Funny guy.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, James Rankin 
kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team...

Get yourself one of these - I have one 
http://www.redsave.com/products/mr-t-in-your-pocket

On 24 August 2011 16:18, Guyer, Don 
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:
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:)

I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name...


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Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Orginizational Q

So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE 
team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client 
facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively 
the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone 
conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can 
*fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server 
infrastructure.

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your 
guys' teams that manage AD and servers?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 
503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764


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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Guyer, Don
As long as I handled the Mini-gun on the chopper...

 

*eg*

 

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Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Orginizational Q

 

I'd just be proud to be a member of the A-Team...

Get yourself one of these - I have one 
http://www.redsave.com/products/mr-t-in-your-pocket

On 24 August 2011 16:18, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

Server Infrastructure Team

Infrastructure Team

Server Engineering

Systems Engineering

They Who Manage Internal Servers

 

J

 

I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name...

 

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 



 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Orginizational Q

 

So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an
SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal
and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who
is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's
largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a
DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the
Active Directory and server infrastructure.

 

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
your guys' teams that manage AD and servers?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill
yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once
you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use
your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also
committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. 

The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the
information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way
it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell
on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to
ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you
find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a
disclaimer regarding liability for transmission.

In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then
please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's
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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
How about Local Services Department

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Orginizational Q

So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE 
team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client 
facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is effectively 
the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely a forgone 
conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can 
*fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server 
infrastructure.

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your 
guys' teams that manage AD and servers?
David Lum
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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. 
In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No 
functional difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer 
they recently modified position titles and now we are called Technical 
Support III again, no functional difference in the job or the 
requirements. So I wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest 
BOFH? 




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Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:   David Lum david@nwea.org
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   08/24/2011 11:08 AM
Subject:Orginizational Q



So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE 
team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and 
client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is 
effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s 
largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a 
DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active 
Directory and server infrastructure.
 
What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of 
your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?
David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
 
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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread David Lum
The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service Desk manager 
but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else builds servers for internal 
use (and this happens frequently around here), manages AD, SMS, Shavlik 
patching, and server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s not my job 
title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which currently doesn’t 
exist.

Dave

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Orginizational Q

Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the 
last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional 
difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently 
modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, 
no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung 
up on group names. May I suggest BOFH?




Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org
To:NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM
Subject:Orginizational Q




So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team 
(called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client 
facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively 
the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone 
conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can 
*fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server 
infrastructure.

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your 
guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers

2011-08-24 Thread Sean Rector
And here's the key... ...employee termination does tend to have a
standard procedure that does get followed...  We're quite small at  50
employees, yet we have these procedures in place to ensure that this
type of situation does not happen.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers

 

For such an attack that caused $300k damage, it seems that this only
affected a relatively small org. Small orgs tend not to have the
enormous amount of risk management and process (ITIL or otherwise) that
large organisations have. 

 

Large orgs also have their problems, but something as routine as
employee termination does tend to have a standard procedure that does
get followed (well, maybe they can still access the carpark).

 

We have a small mountain of documentation to cover thousands of
procedures - but there are probably still gaps.

 

From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of
Lee Douglas
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 9:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Former Employee Cripples Shionogi Computers

 

Hard to believe they didn't bother to change the passwords, but maybe
not.

 

http://www.expertbriefings.com/news/former-employee-cripples-shionogi-co
mputers/ 

 

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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
ISED1
Internal Systems Engineering Department 1

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Orginizational Q

The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service Desk manager 
but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else builds servers for internal 
use (and this happens frequently around here), manages AD, SMS, Shavlik 
patching, and server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s not my job 
title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which currently doesn’t 
exist.

Dave

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Orginizational Q

Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the 
last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional 
difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently 
modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, 
no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung 
up on group names. May I suggest BOFH?




Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org
To:NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM
Subject:Orginizational Q




So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team 
(called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client 
facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively 
the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone 
conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can 
*fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server 
infrastructure.

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your 
guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Steven Peck
I don't think group names are BS.  Group names have an effect on outside
perceptions about what your group does and is assigned.  Especially at
larger companies where no one can keep the entire structure in their head
and rely on distribution lists or group names to make educated assumtions
about who to contact for what.

Name are important to perception.

I'd go with Systems Engineering.  If you have multiple OS's and a seperate
Network and Unix team, Windows Systems Engineering.  You could also go with
Server Infrastructure Team or something similiar.  You want something
inclusive of your scope but not something that steps on what the other teams
do.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

 The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service Desk
 manager but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else builds servers
 for internal use (and this happens frequently around here), manages AD, SMS,
 Shavlik patching, and server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s
 not my job title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which
 currently doesn’t exist. 

 ** **

 Dave

 ** **

 *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Orginizational Q

 ** **

 Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In
 the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional
 difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently
 modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III
 again, no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I
 wouldn't get hung up on group names. May I suggest BOFH?




 Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
 Technical Support III
 Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
 Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
 Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
 Phone: 610-807-6459
 Fax: 610-807-6003



 From:David Lum david@nwea.org
 To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM
 Subject:Orginizational Q 

 --




 So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
 team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
 client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is
 effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely
 a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
 so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory
 and server infrastructure.

 What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
 your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?
 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
   

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Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Michael White
An example... OnPatient is a free app for collecting patient
information instead of the traditional clipboard which ties in to the
drchrono EHR app (also free - but with variable pricing for back-end
functionality).  Patient shows up at check-in, handed the iPad with
their initial information in to verify/update/add.  Returns to
check-in and information is available for medical practitioner in the
drchrono EHR app.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 Another: Forms data entry on a device with a clipboard-ish form factor with
 field level validation and back-end real-time processing logic. Think the
 multi-billion dollar medical industry as just ONE example. There are many,
 MANY others (insurance adjusters, inspection personnel, legal transcribing,
 etc…)



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RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares

2011-08-24 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Very cool...

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael White [mailto:mswhite...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:37 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
 
 An example... OnPatient is a free app for collecting patient
information
 instead of the traditional clipboard which ties in to the drchrono EHR
app
 (also free - but with variable pricing for back-end functionality).
Patient
 shows up at check-in, handed the iPad with their initial information
in to
 verify/update/add.  Returns to check-in and information is available
for
 medical practitioner in the drchrono EHR app.
 
 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
  Another: Forms data entry on a device with a clipboard-ish form
factor
  with field level validation and back-end real-time processing logic.
  Think the multi-billion dollar medical industry as just ONE example.
  There are many, MANY others (insurance adjusters, inspection
  personnel, legal transcribing,
  etc...)
 
 
 
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 --
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 mswhite...@gmail.com
 
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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Jacob
IT Department.

 

Which encompasses system administrators, pc techs, network admins, web
developers, dba, etc.. etc.. etc.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Orginizational Q

 

So.in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is
effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely
a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and
server infrastructure.

 

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
your guys' teams that manage AD and servers?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Jacob
So you have a rim job?

 

Sounds like a position we should fill.

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Orginizational Q

 

Server Infrastructure Team

Infrastructure Team

Server Engineering

Systems Engineering

They Who Manage Internal Servers

 

J

 

I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name.

 

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

 http://www.fiserv.com/ www.fiserv.com

Description: Frog Signature

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Orginizational Q

 

So.in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who is
effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's largely
a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and
server infrastructure.

 

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
your guys' teams that manage AD and servers?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Steve Ens
Slam dunk!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote:

 So you have a “rim” job?

 ** **

 Sounds like a position we should fill…

 ** **

 *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Orginizational Q

 ** **

 Server Infrastructure Team

 Infrastructure Team

 Server Engineering

 Systems Engineering

 They Who Manage Internal Servers

 ** **

 J

 ** **

 I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name…

 ** **

 ** **

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com

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 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Orginizational Q

 ** **

 So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
 team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
 client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is
 effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely
 a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
 so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory
 and server infrastructure.

 ** **

 What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
 your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?

 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Jacob
… until you decide to look for another job.

 

Say you apply for a System Engineer position and you use “Technical Support 
III” on your resume. The Jr. recruiting analyst that just graduated from high 
school who does not know up from down would send your resume to the circular 
file because you were not a “System Engineer”.  So you have to add “System 
Engineer/Technical Support III” on your resume. Again, the Jr. recruiting 
analyst would say how can he hold two positions at the same time… another trip 
the circular file. J

 

 

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Orginizational Q

 

Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger companies. In the 
last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3 times. No functional 
difference. When I was hired, my title was Systems Engineer they recently 
modified position titles and now we are called Technical Support III again, 
no functional difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung 
up on group names. May I suggest BOFH? 




Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:David Lum david@nwea.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM 
Subject:Orginizational Q 

  _  




So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE team 
(called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and client 
facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is effectively 
the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone 
conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can 
*fully* take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory and server 
infrastructure. 
  
What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of your 
guys’ teams that manage AD and servers? 
David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 
  

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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Humphries

So my suggestion of Apple Dumpling Gang is off base I guess.



Steven Peck wrote:
I don't think group names are BS.  Group names have an effect on 
outside perceptions about what your group does and is assigned.  
Especially at larger companies where no one can keep the entire 
structure in their head and rely on distribution lists or group names 
to make educated assumtions about who to contact for what.
 
Name are important to perception.
 
I'd go with Systems Engineering.  If you have multiple OS's and a 
seperate Network and Unix team, Windows Systems Engineering.  You 
could also go with Server Infrastructure Team or something similiar.  
You want something inclusive of your scope but not something that 
steps on what the other teams do.
 
Steven Peck

http://www.blkmtn.org


 
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org 
mailto:david@nwea.org wrote:


The problem is there is currently NO name. I report to the Service
Desk manager but I’m an SE, not a Service Desk guy. Nobody else
builds servers for internal use (and this happens frequently
around here), manages AD, SMS, Shavlik patching, and
server-delivered apps/web sites, blah blah blah. It’s not my job
title I’m wondering about, it’s my department name which currently
doesn’t exist.

 


Dave

 


*From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Orginizational Q

 


Personally I think all this stuff is BS, especially at larger
companies. In the last 3 years here they have renamed our group 3
times. No functional difference. When I was hired, my title was
Systems Engineer they recently modified position titles and now
we are called Technical Support III again, no functional
difference in the job or the requirements. So I wouldn't get hung
up on group names. May I suggest BOFH?




Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459 tel:610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 tel:610-807-6003



From:David Lum david@nwea.org
mailto:david@nwea.org
To:NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:08/24/2011 11:08 AM
Subject:Orginizational Q






So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC
stuff, an SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our
servers (internal and client facing) and then there’s me – spun
off from the SE team - who is effectively the “SE team” that
handles internal facing servers. It’s largely a forgone conclusion
that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me so we can
**fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory
and server infrastructure.
 
What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept

name of your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?
*David Lum*
Systems Engineer // NWEA^TM
Office 503.548.5229 tel:503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text)
503.267.9764 tel:503.267.9764
 


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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Mike Sullivan
How about Remote Infrastructure Management?

I found this list of possibilities here:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/Information-Technology/RIM.html

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 Server Infrastructure Team

 Infrastructure Team

 Server Engineering

 Systems Engineering

 They Who Manage Internal Servers

 ** **

 J

 ** **

 I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name…

 ** **

 ** **

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com

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 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Orginizational Q

 ** **

 So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
 team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
 client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is
 effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely
 a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
 so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory
 and server infrastructure.

 ** **

 What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
 your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?

 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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RE: Cisco VPN Router?

2011-08-24 Thread Jacob
+1.. Juniper all the way. We use the Juniper netscreen (or whatever they are
called now) for site to site VPN or remote access. Simple to set up.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN Router?

 

No.   If you already have the Juniper device, and IPSEC tunnel can easily be
setup between the two.



ASB


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Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market.





On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk
wrote:

I've not dealt with any Cisco kit for a long time.  If we want to create a
site-to-site VPN tunnel to another location that used Cisco kit to terminate
the connection, is there any benefit in going with a Cisco device vs. a
Juniper?

 

I've not done too much with site to site VPN's but my understanding is that
whilst the implementation and terminology may vary between manufacturers,
the underlying protocols should be compatible?


Thanks,

Paul

  _  

MIRA Ltd

 

 

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RE: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Guyer, Don
It was only a matter of time..I regretted that as soon as I hit
Send.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Orginizational Q

 

So you have a rim job?

 

Sounds like a position we should fill...

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Orginizational Q

 

Server Infrastructure Team

Infrastructure Team

Server Engineering

Systems Engineering

They Who Manage Internal Servers

 

J

 

I don't even know what the RIM stands for in my groups' name...

 

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 



 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Orginizational Q

 

So...in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an
SE team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal
and client facing) and then there's me - spun off from the SE team - who
is effectively the SE team that handles internal facing servers. It's
largely a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a
DBA join me so we can *fully* take over the care and feeding of the
Active Directory and server infrastructure.

 

What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
your guys' teams that manage AD and servers?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread David Lum
eEye has a product that looks compelling as well...

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VIPRE Alternatives?

I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several 
years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of 
management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take a look at 
possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, 
Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when 
considering VIPRE alternatives.


Roger Wright
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RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

2011-08-24 Thread Brian Desmond
What's wrong with that?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132

From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

I know I'm not following best practice, but my Hyper-V hosts are running 
Datacenter Ed. and are my DCs.

Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association

E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.orgmailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)


From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tue 8/23/2011 7:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...
If you are down, you call them and tell them you are down and that it is a 
business critical event. I don't know what the fee for that is, but you are 
supposed to get a callback in 30 minutes 24x7x365.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? 
I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other 
I get support times of 6a-6pm.
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847

I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call 
them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was 
requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC  
it needed to talk to!

Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have 
some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7?
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Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread kz20fl
I'd stay away from Trend. We use it here and my whitelist continually catches 
things it misses. I'd go so far to say it's useless.

Eset used to be quite highly regarded, but they seemed to fall out of favour. 
Might be worth a look again.

Sent from my POS BlackBerry  wireless device, which may wipe itself at any 
moment

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:21:54 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: VIPRE Alternatives?

I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for
several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection,
ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take
a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering
Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint
product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting
when considering VIPRE alternatives.


Roger Wright
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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Paul Hutchings
We've done very well with Avira Antivir.

It doesn't seem so well known outside of Europe but it's lightweight and very 
effective.


From: Roger Wright [rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 August 2011 6:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VIPRE Alternatives?

I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several 
years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of 
management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take a look at 
possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, 
Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when 
considering VIPRE alternatives.


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Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
We have done well with Kaspersky.

I'm curious about Sonicwall.


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 several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection,
 ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take
 a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering
 Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint
 product.

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 when considering VIPRE alternatives.


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Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Jonathan Link
IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded
McAffee...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have done well with Kaspersky.

 I'm curious about Sonicwall.


 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for
 several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection,
 ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take
 a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering
 Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint
 product.

 I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting
 when considering VIPRE alternatives.


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Re: Orginizational Q

2011-08-24 Thread Steven Peck
http://despair.com/regret.html
^^ There ya go.

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 It was only a matter of time……….I regretted that as soon as I hit Send.***
 *

 ** **

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com

 [image: Description: Frog Signature]

 ** **

 *From:* Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:49 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Orginizational Q

 ** **

 So you have a “rim” job?

 ** **

 Sounds like a position we should fill…

 ** **

 *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Orginizational Q

 ** **

 Server Infrastructure Team

 Infrastructure Team

 Server Engineering

 Systems Engineering

 They Who Manage Internal Servers

 ** **

 J

 ** **

 I don’t even know what the “RIM” stands for in my groups’ name…

 ** **

 ** **

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com

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 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:08 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Orginizational Q

 ** **

 So…in my org we have a Service Desk team that handles the PC stuff, an SE
 team (called IS Delivery) that handles many of our servers (internal and
 client facing) and then there’s me – spun off from the SE team - who is
 effectively the “SE team” that handles internal facing servers. It’s largely
 a forgone conclusion that I will have another SE and probably a DBA join me
 so we can **fully** take over the care and feeding of the Active Directory
 and server infrastructure.

 ** **

 What would be an appropriate dept/team name be? What is the dept name of
 your guys’ teams that manage AD and servers?

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RE: full system backup

2011-08-24 Thread Sam Cayze
Acronis.  $79 dollars I think I spent for 1 workstation where image level
backups and bare metal restores were a MUST.  It's a wonderful product,
worth every penny.

Sam



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RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

2011-08-24 Thread Sean Rector
In my environment - nothing.  It's working like a champ.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

 

What's wrong with that? 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com mailto:br...@briandesmond.com 

 

c   - 312.731.3132

 

From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

 

I know I'm not following best practice, but my Hyper-V hosts are running
Datacenter Ed. and are my DCs.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE 

Information Technology Manager

Virginia Opera Association

 

E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org

Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)

 



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tue 8/23/2011 7:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

If you are down, you call them and tell them you are down and that it is
a business critical event. I don't know what the fee for that is, but
you are supposed to get a callback in 30 minutes 24x7x365.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

 

..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft
Servers? I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing
Virtualization and Other I get support times of 6a-6pm.
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=
d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln
=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847

 

I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to
call them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and
it was requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest
VM was the DC  it needed to talk to!

 

Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need
to have some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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Re: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Jonathan Link
Putting 20 users on a volume license when you have only 10 is a licensing
violation.  How severe is it?  I dunno.  I just know it's a technical
violation.

If you want to go with 100% legit, you split your install base up.  Is it
worth it?
I got an Action Pack mainly for the server software.  The Office is a nice
bonus, but it's easier to manage with one kind of licensing...  There are a
few spots where I use the Action Pack license, though.




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 So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example).**
 **

 ** **

 However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed
 silently through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and
 learned to love.  I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI
 install.

 ** **

 Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs.  Can I use VL Media
 to install office for all 20 users?  Is a license a license in this sense?
 

 ** **

 I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don’t answer licensing
 questions.  Um, ok.

 ** **

 What would you guys do?  Trying to keep things legit here.

 ** **

 Thanks,

 Sam

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RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

2011-08-24 Thread Crawford, Scott
Thanks. That makes sense.  So, really there's no issue as long as you have a 
local account on the hosts to log into?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

That's fine.

Remember, Hyper-V is a type-1 hypervisor. IT doesn't care how you log in to the 
root partition. IT doesn't care about domains. IT doesn't care about 
authentication credentials.

So If you are recovering from a datacenter shutdown, first power-on the 
Hyper-V server hosting a VM that holds your forest-root PDC FSMO role. This VM 
server really needs to be a GC and host DNS. This VM server needs to refer to 
itself as either primary or secondary for DNS. Sign on to that Hyper-V server 
using a LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE USER ACCOUNT.  Start the VM. After it's running, 
log out of the Hyper-V server and log back in using a domain account. Start 
your other DCs/GCs, I'd recommend one-by-one, but depending on your environment 
size, that may not be practical.

After you have at least one DC/GC running in each AD site, you can begin 
starting your other servers, based on your recovery requirements (me, I start 
all DCs, followed by Exchange, followed by SQL, followed by file servers, 
followed by anything else that is left).

Alternately - have your forest root PDC (and a GC!) on a physical server.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Crawford, Scott 
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

However, there are ways to handle this
Such as?

My plan is to migrate from ESX3.5 to Hyper-V and I *planned* on joining the 
hosts to the virualized domain.

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

IMHO - the only issue is that you need to have more than one DC and they need 
to be hosted on more than one physical server.

THE MAJOR CHALLENGE is that, in the case of a datacenter reboot or 
datacenter shutdown followed by a datacenter power-up, restoring service 
can be a bit challenging. However, there are ways to handle this.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jon Harris 
[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

That was why I never made a Hyper-V host a member of any domain if it would 
host a DC.  Just plain bad news.

Jon
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:
..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? 
I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other 
I get support times of 6a-6pm.
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847

I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call 
them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was 
requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC  
it needed to talk to!

Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have 
some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 
503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764


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RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

2011-08-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
And you use it when appropriate.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

Thanks. That makes sense.  So, really there's no issue as long as you have a 
local account on the hosts to log into?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

That's fine.

Remember, Hyper-V is a type-1 hypervisor. IT doesn't care how you log in to the 
root partition. IT doesn't care about domains. IT doesn't care about 
authentication credentials.

So If you are recovering from a datacenter shutdown, first power-on the 
Hyper-V server hosting a VM that holds your forest-root PDC FSMO role. This VM 
server really needs to be a GC and host DNS. This VM server needs to refer to 
itself as either primary or secondary for DNS. Sign on to that Hyper-V server 
using a LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE USER ACCOUNT.  Start the VM. After it's running, 
log out of the Hyper-V server and log back in using a domain account. Start 
your other DCs/GCs, I'd recommend one-by-one, but depending on your environment 
size, that may not be practical.

After you have at least one DC/GC running in each AD site, you can begin 
starting your other servers, based on your recovery requirements (me, I start 
all DCs, followed by Exchange, followed by SQL, followed by file servers, 
followed by anything else that is left).

Alternately - have your forest root PDC (and a GC!) on a physical server.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Crawford, Scott 
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

However, there are ways to handle this
Such as?

My plan is to migrate from ESX3.5 to Hyper-V and I *planned* on joining the 
hosts to the virualized domain.

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

IMHO - the only issue is that you need to have more than one DC and they need 
to be hosted on more than one physical server.

THE MAJOR CHALLENGE is that, in the case of a datacenter reboot or 
datacenter shutdown followed by a datacenter power-up, restoring service 
can be a bit challenging. However, there are ways to handle this.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jon Harris 
[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

That was why I never made a Hyper-V host a member of any domain if it would 
host a DC.  Just plain bad news.

Jon
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:
..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? 
I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other 
I get support times of 6a-6pm.
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847

I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call 
them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was 
requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC  
it needed to talk to!

Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have 
some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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RE: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Paul Hutchings
If you have a volume license don't you have a LAR you can ask?

I've always worked on the assumption that Microsoft care far more about keys 
used than they do media, so if using different media means you have to use a 
different key for which you aren't licensed, that's more of an issue than the 
media used, IYSWIM.

The answer with pretty much anything Microsoft is get it in writing from your 
LAR if you can.

From: Sam Cayze [sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 August 2011 7:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Action Pack License Question

So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example).

However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently 
through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to 
love.  I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install.

Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs.  Can I use VL Media to 
install office for all 20 users?  Is a license a license in this sense?

I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don’t answer licensing 
questions.  Um, ok.

What would you guys do?  Trying to keep things legit here.

Thanks,
Sam

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RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

2011-08-24 Thread Crawford, Scott
But, of course ;)

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

And you use it when appropriate.

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Crawford, Scott 
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

Thanks. That makes sense.  So, really there's no issue as long as you have a 
local account on the hosts to log into?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

That's fine.

Remember, Hyper-V is a type-1 hypervisor. IT doesn't care how you log in to the 
root partition. IT doesn't care about domains. IT doesn't care about 
authentication credentials.

So If you are recovering from a datacenter shutdown, first power-on the 
Hyper-V server hosting a VM that holds your forest-root PDC FSMO role. This VM 
server really needs to be a GC and host DNS. This VM server needs to refer to 
itself as either primary or secondary for DNS. Sign on to that Hyper-V server 
using a LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE USER ACCOUNT.  Start the VM. After it's running, 
log out of the Hyper-V server and log back in using a domain account. Start 
your other DCs/GCs, I'd recommend one-by-one, but depending on your environment 
size, that may not be practical.

After you have at least one DC/GC running in each AD site, you can begin 
starting your other servers, based on your recovery requirements (me, I start 
all DCs, followed by Exchange, followed by SQL, followed by file servers, 
followed by anything else that is left).

Alternately - have your forest root PDC (and a GC!) on a physical server.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Crawford, Scott 
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

However, there are ways to handle this
Such as?

My plan is to migrate from ESX3.5 to Hyper-V and I *planned* on joining the 
hosts to the virualized domain.

From: Michael B. Smith 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

IMHO - the only issue is that you need to have more than one DC and they need 
to be hosted on more than one physical server.

THE MAJOR CHALLENGE is that, in the case of a datacenter reboot or 
datacenter shutdown followed by a datacenter power-up, restoring service 
can be a bit challenging. However, there are ways to handle this.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
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From: Jon Harris 
[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [Microsoft support] Is it me...

That was why I never made a Hyper-V host a member of any domain if it would 
host a DC.  Just plain bad news.

Jon
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:
..or is there no 24x7 pay per incident number for support on Microsoft Servers? 
I keep getting to this page (2008 R2) and choosing Virtualization and Other 
I get support times of 6a-6pm.
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?st=1as=1iid=1059iguid=d535992c-b4dd-49a7-b4a8-2b14e5649525_1_1x=10y=17c1=508sd=gnc=SMCln=en-usprid=13020gsaid=582847

I had a situation the other night where I thought I was going to have to call 
them because I uh...have a Hyper-V host that's a domain member and it was 
requiring connection to a DC to start a guest VM, and the guest VM was the DC  
it needed to talk to!

Invoking some DR steps I got back in business, but still...do you need to have 
some kind of support contract to have them available 24x7?
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RE: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
I think you would be in violation, because you are licensed activations per 
key. But it would be a technical violation. However, IANAL, and I don't speak 
for Microsoft.

Call them and ask.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/contact-us.aspx

Regards,

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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Action Pack License Question

So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example).

However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently 
through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to 
love.  I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install.

Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs.  Can I use VL Media to 
install office for all 20 users?  Is a license a license in this sense?

I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing 
questions.  Um, ok.

What would you guys do?  Trying to keep things legit here.

Thanks,
Sam

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RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

2011-08-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
Firewall in between, as well as a different switching matrix.

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-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions

Isolated in what way?

Just a separate subnet, or on a separate subnet with a firewall (or
router with ACLs)?

Or something more than that?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 06:17, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 I’ve got several clients whose server farm is isolated from their user
 desktops and therefore chose to not run standard AV.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:15 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions



 There's not many server-end systems that don't need exclusions. On XenApp,
 without a particular set of them you can't get EdgeSight working
 effectively, either - and if you use AppSense agents, you need to configure
 another particular set of exclusions, even on client endpoints.

 The days of the reactive AV are coming to an end, I think. Application
 management stops more threats for us these days than traditional AV ever
 does. I'm tempted to run a few systems without standard AV, but my current
 emplyer won't let me take the risk, even for an experiment :-)

 On 24 August 2011 14:07, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 BTW #3, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on an Exchange
 Server can also really foul up the works.



 BTW #4, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a SQL Server
 can also really foul up the works.



 And your other comment is spot on! J



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

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 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:01 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions



 Tried that.  Gave up.  Found some posts saying in the managed version of SEP
 that there is no way to export the exclusion stuff.  This customer had
 decided on the unmanaged version of SEP 12.1.  Decisions like that make me
 glad I charge by the hour! J  I wound up just manually entering the
 exclusions on all six Citrix XenApp servers.



 BTW #1, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a XenApp server
 can really screw things up.  They installed SEP 12.1 on all XenApp servers
 over the weekend and didn’t tell me they were even planning on such a
 thing.  Monday morning all you know what broke loose when users were getting
 corrupted profile, couldn’t log off and sessions would never terminate and
 their main accounting app’s executable kept being blocked so no one could do
 any accounting work.  12 man-hours later they were back running.



 BTW #2, not entering exclusions in an A/V product running on a Domain
 Controller can also really foul up the works.



 ID10T issues like this keep MBS and me in business.



 Thanks





 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com





 From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:51 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection and Exclusions



 You may have access to the key but not Regedit perms. Try importing from an
 elevated cmd prompt ?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 My GoogleFu is failing me.  Is there a way to copy the Exclusions from one
 computer to another?  I found the registry key:



 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint
 Protection\AV\Exclusions]



 I exported it but when I try to import the .reg file, I get an access
 denied.  I gave my account FC permission to the key but still a no-go.  Any
 clues?



 Thanks





 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com





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RE: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Mike Gill
You would need to use the proper licensing qty's for each, but for the issue
of not being able to deploy, the Office Customization Tool isn't included in
all media. So just download it from MS and then you can deploy. Explained
here:

 

http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/customising-office-2010-before-deplo
yment/

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Action Pack License Question

 

So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example).

 

However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently
through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to
love.  I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install.

 

Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs.  Can I use VL Media to
install office for all 20 users?  Is a license a license in this sense?

 

I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing
questions.  Um, ok.

 

What would you guys do?  Trying to keep things legit here.

 

Thanks,

Sam

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RE: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Sam Cayze
Well, bingo.  Did not realize that - and I looked hard for a solution.  I'll
try that.

 

On my 4th agent with MS Licensing and they can't answer the question.  I'll
post back if I get a response.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question

 

You would need to use the proper licensing qty's for each, but for the issue
of not being able to deploy, the Office Customization Tool isn't included in
all media. So just download it from MS and then you can deploy. Explained
here:

 

http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/customising-office-2010-before-deplo
yment/

 

-- 
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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Action Pack License Question

 

So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example).

 

However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently
through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to
love.  I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install.

 

Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs.  Can I use VL Media to
install office for all 20 users?  Is a license a license in this sense?

 

I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing
questions.  Um, ok.

 

What would you guys do?  Trying to keep things legit here.

 

Thanks,

Sam

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RE: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Mike Hoffman
Remember reimaging rights? You get that with your license. Now under most 
circumstances these would not be applicable as Office Pro is different to Pro 
Plus, but from Action Pack they are the same product.

You could put in a KMS server to sort the activation - and then just use the 
console to verify the counts in case anyone asks.

Mike

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 August 2011 20:16
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question

Well, bingo.  Did not realize that - and I looked hard for a solution.  I'll 
try that.

On my 4th agent with MS Licensing and they can't answer the question.  I'll 
post back if I get a response.

Thanks,
Sam

From: Mike Gill 
[mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]mailto:[mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question

You would need to use the proper licensing qty's for each, but for the issue of 
not being able to deploy, the Office Customization Tool isn't included in all 
media. So just download it from MS and then you can deploy. Explained here:

http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/customising-office-2010-before-deployment/

--
Mike Gill

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Action Pack License Question

So, with MAPS, a company gets 10 licenses for Office 2010 (For example).

However, the media they give you is retail, and cannot be installed silently 
through the normal deployment methods we have grown used to and learned to 
love.  I would have to walk to each workstation and do a GUI install.

Say I have 20 users; own 10 VL licenses, and 10 MAPs.  Can I use VL Media to 
install office for all 20 users?  Is a license a license in this sense?

I have asked a MAPs specialist and they said they don't answer licensing 
questions.  Um, ok.

What would you guys do?  Trying to keep things legit here.

Thanks,
Sam

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Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Roger Wright
Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the
management process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint down
from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions.


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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:

 IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded
 McAffee...


 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.comwrote:

 We have done well with Kaspersky.

 I'm curious about Sonicwall.


 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for
 several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection,
 ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take
 a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering
 Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint
 product.

 I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting
 when considering VIPRE alternatives.


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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought 
in mind of replacing Vipre.
The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than 
Vipre.

We still have Vipre.

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the management 
process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat 
of the previous ViruScan versions.


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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec 
kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote:
We have done well with Kaspersky.

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright 
rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several 
years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of 
management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take a look at 
possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, 
Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when 
considering VIPRE alternatives.


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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Nice Kim.

I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console...

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought 
in mind of replacing Vipre.
The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than 
Vipre.

We still have Vipre.

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the management 
process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat 
of the previous ViruScan versions.


Roger Wright
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec 
kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote:
We have done well with Kaspersky.

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright 
rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several 
years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of 
management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take a look at 
possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, 
Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when 
considering VIPRE alternatives.


Roger Wright
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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread John Leto
That's almost correct Kim I did not eval nor was asked to eval Symantec or 
McAfee. I did evals of Eset and Trend.


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Nice Kim.

I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console...

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought 
in mind of replacing Vipre.
The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than 
Vipre.

We still have Vipre.

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the management 
process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat 
of the previous ViruScan versions.


Roger Wright
___
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec 
kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote:
We have done well with Kaspersky.

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright 
rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several 
years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of 
management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take a look at 
possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, 
Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when 
considering VIPRE alternatives.


Roger Wright
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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
First mistake this year!  Sorry.

From: John Leto
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

That's almost correct Kim I did not eval nor was asked to eval Symantec or 
McAfee. I did evals of Eset and Trend.


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Nice Kim.

I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console...

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought 
in mind of replacing Vipre.
The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than 
Vipre.

We still have Vipre.

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the management 
process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat 
of the previous ViruScan versions.


Roger Wright
___
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec 
kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote:
We have done well with Kaspersky.

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright 
rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several 
years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of 
management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take a look at 
possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, 
Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when 
considering VIPRE alternatives.


Roger Wright
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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread John Leto
No it's at least your 15th.

From: Kim Longenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

First mistake this year!  Sorry.

From: John Leto
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

That's almost correct Kim I did not eval nor was asked to eval Symantec or 
McAfee. I did evals of Eset and Trend.


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Nice Kim.

I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console...

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the thought 
in mind of replacing Vipre.
The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint than 
Vipre.

We still have Vipre.

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the management 
process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint down from the bloat 
of the previous ViruScan versions.


Roger Wright
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded McAffee...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec 
kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote:
We have done well with Kaspersky.

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright 
rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for several 
years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection, ease of 
management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take a look at 
possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering Kaspersky, 
Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting when 
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Roger Wright
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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread N Parr
Happiest day I've had in a long time when I deleted the VM hosting that.
EPO is a 4 letter word to me, actually a bunch of them strung together.



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?



Nice Kim.  

 

I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console...

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the
thought in mind of replacing Vipre.

The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger
footprint than Vipre.

 

We still have Vipre.  

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the
management process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint
down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions.


Roger Wright
___

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My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together.

 

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
wrote:

IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded
McAffee...

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com
wrote:

We have done well with Kaspersky.  

 

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for
several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective
protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.
But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this
time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking
into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

 

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting
when considering VIPRE alternatives.



Roger Wright
___

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My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together.

 

 

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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Ray
We're running Sophos.  We liked the console vs Kaspersky.  Not overly
impressed with their post-installation support.  Kaspersky support during
our trial period was better. 

 

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

We have done well with Kaspersky.  

 

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for
several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection,
ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take
a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering
Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint
product.

 

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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Ray
Me too.  Serious suckage.  

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Nice Kim.  

 

I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console.

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the
thought in mind of replacing Vipre.

The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger footprint
than Vipre.

 

We still have Vipre.  

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the
management process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint down
from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions.


Roger Wright
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
wrote:

IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded
McAffee...

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote:

We have done well with Kaspersky.  

 

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for
several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective protection,
ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.  But I need to take
a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this time I'm considering
Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking into Sonicwall's endpoint
product.

 

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting
when considering VIPRE alternatives.



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RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

2011-08-24 Thread Guyer, Don
Not saying that it was a good product, but I didn't mind the ePO
console. I found it easy to learn/navigate, once you tweaked it to your
environment and how you did your rollouts/updates.

 

As far as it protecting wellI think we all know the answer to that.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Happiest day I've had in a long time when I deleted the VM hosting that.
EPO is a 4 letter word to me, actually a bunch of them strung together.

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

Nice Kim.  

 

I still have nightmares about Mcafee EPO's mgmt. console...

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Our boss made us do evals of ESET, Trend, Symantec, and McAfee with the
thought in mind of replacing Vipre.

The others, in particular, Symantec and McAfee, had a WAY bigger
footprint than Vipre.

 

We still have Vipre.  

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE Alternatives?

 

Yep, looks like it's McAfee.  But might check it out to see how the
management process works.  I would hope they've gotten the footprint
down from the bloat of the previous ViruScan versions.


Roger Wright
___

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My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together.

 

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
wrote:

IIRC, the last time I worked with Sonicwall's stuff it was rebranded
McAffee...

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com
wrote:

We have done well with Kaspersky.  

 

I'm curious about Sonicwall.

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been, and continue to be, a big fan of GFI's VIPRE product for
several years.  Although not perfect, it has provided effective
protection, ease of management and deployment at an acceptable cost.
But I need to take a look at possible alternatives this fall.  At this
time I'm considering Kaspersky, Trend, and Sophos, and also checking
into Sonicwall's endpoint product.

 

I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has gone through similar vetting
when considering VIPRE alternatives.



Roger Wright
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Re: full system backup

2011-08-24 Thread Tigran K
Does it handle restore to a different system configuration reasonably well?

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RE: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Mike Hoffman
Set up a KMS server and just stop worrying. We have MVL, Action Pack, TechNet 
and SPLA licenses floating around and the audit tools from the KMS VAMT (Volume 
Activation Management Toolkit) keep us straight. I have a standard build folder 
for Office, SharePoint Designer, Project and Visio with SP1 all in one folder 
which we install on every internal machine. If you ever needed to change the 
keys then you could do it with a click from the console.

I would keep the following as the rights for it:
Reimaging Eligibility
Reimaging is permitted if the copies made from the Volume Licensing media are 
identical to the originally licensed product[1]. Volume Licensing customers who 
have licensed Microsoft software products from an OEM, through a retail source, 
or under any agreement other than their Microsoft Volume Licensing agreement 
may use copies made from Microsoft Volume Licensing media. Customers can use 
these copies from Microsoft media only if they are the same product and 
version, contain the same components, and are in the same language.

The following are examples that do not meet the eligibility criteria for 
reimaging:

Different components: The Microsoft Office system suites must have exactly the 
same component products. For instance, Microsoft Office Professional 2010 
licensed through the OEM, system builder, or FPP channel and Microsoft Office 
Professional Plus 2010 licensed through Microsoft Volume Licensing are not the 
same product. They also do not share the same components. Therefore, you cannot 
reimage in this example.

Microsoft Reimaging Rights Feb 2011

Mike
(Microsoft Licensing Sales Expert 2004-2011)


From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 August 2011 21:14
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question

I spoke with 9 different people at all various departments.  (MAPS, VL, 
PreSales, Business Support, Licensing, etc).

Nobody had an answer.  The last one told me to talk to our reseller.  I'll try 
that, but to be safe, I'm going to assume that I can't do this.

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RE: full system backup

2011-08-24 Thread John Cook
Works for us, we use the same image on both Dell D630 and E6400 laptops.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: full system backup

Does it handle restore to a different system configuration reasonably well?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote:
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RE: Action Pack License Question

2011-08-24 Thread Sam Cayze
Great info, thanks Mike.  Haven't delved into KMS yet as we are mostly 2003
or earlier on everything.  With lots of new MS products being deployed into
our network soon, I think it's time to do some research and get my hands
dirty on it.


Thanks,

Sam

 

From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question

 

Set up a KMS server and just stop worrying. We have MVL, Action Pack,
TechNet and SPLA licenses floating around and the audit tools from the KMS
VAMT (Volume Activation Management Toolkit) keep us straight. I have a
standard build folder for Office, SharePoint Designer, Project and Visio
with SP1 all in one folder which we install on every internal machine. If
you ever needed to change the keys then you could do it with a click from
the console.

 

I would keep the following as the rights for it:


Reimaging Eligibility


Reimaging is permitted if the copies made from the Volume Licensing media
are identical to the originally licensed product[1]. Volume Licensing
customers who have licensed Microsoft software products from an OEM, through
a retail source, or under any agreement other than their Microsoft Volume
Licensing agreement may use copies made from Microsoft Volume Licensing
media. Customers can use these copies from Microsoft media only if they are
the same product and version, contain the same components, and are in the
same language. 

 

The following are examples that do not meet the eligibility criteria for
reimaging:

 


Different components: The Microsoft Office system suites must have exactly
the same component products. For instance, Microsoft Office Professional
2010 licensed through the OEM, system builder, or FPP channel and Microsoft
Office Professional Plus 2010 licensed through Microsoft Volume Licensing
are not the same product. They also do not share the same components.
Therefore, you cannot reimage in this example.

 

Microsoft Reimaging Rights Feb 2011

 

Mike

(Microsoft Licensing Sales Expert 2004-2011)

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 24 August 2011 21:14
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Action Pack License Question

 

I spoke with 9 different people at all various departments.  (MAPS, VL,
PreSales, Business Support, Licensing, etc).

 

Nobody had an answer.  The last one told me to talk to our reseller.  I'll
try that, but to be safe, I'm going to assume that I can't do this.

 

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Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

2011-08-24 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
Quidquid latine dictum, altum videtur


On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dominus omus.

 --
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 On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
 scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

 A moment of silence to mourn what has become of the company that used to
 make the LaserJet4 and my trusty DesignJet550C

 -sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:12 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

  The suck which has infested HP for the past several years continues to
 spread.  We just today took a delivery of a brand new DesignJet T790.
 $4500 wide-format printer.

  The control panel UI is slow and often doesn't respond to finger
 presses.  It does, however, have lots of high color graphics and
 animations.

  Web UI has two different credential schemes depending on what page
 you're on.  Some pages want you to leave the username field blank; other
 pages want you to use admin for the username.

  Won't load paper.  Seems like it's not actually trying to feed.
 After trying to a bit, it says Edge of roll not found.  Prompts me to
 lift the lever and unload paper.  I lift the lever.  New message:
 Lever unexpectedly lifted.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

  Support guidance says load the latest firmware.

  Look for firmware.  It's not under Download drivers and software.
 Eventually find it under a howto section.

  309 MB file!  Get download started.

  Since I'm downloading, decide to grab drivers.  Check under Download
 drivers and software.  Don't see drivers.  Mainly just this HP ePrint
 and Share: Easy printing thing.  That claims to be a radical new
 technology that lets me print without drivers or software.
  To use it, all I have to do is download and install this software.
 Umm...

  Eventually find drivers under some other howto page.

  Firmware download finished.  It's just a binary blob, no checksum
 info, no wrapper like ZIP or anything.  I just have to hope for the
 best.  Takes several minutes to load.  Since then the machine's gone
 offline and hasn't come back.

  I'm dreading the day the corruption reaches the ProCurve division.

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Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

2011-08-24 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:17 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec kava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dominus omus.
 Quidquid latine dictum, altum videtur

*thunk*

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RE: full system backup

2011-08-24 Thread Sam Cayze
Those are pretty much the same hardware layer, hard to call those different
systems as far as Windows is concerned.
Dell Laptop to HP desktop, for example, that might be a different story.
I think you need universal restore for that:
http://www.acronis.com/backup-recovery/advanced-workstation/



-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: full system backup

Works for us, we use the same image on both Dell D630 and E6400 laptops.

-Original Message-
From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: full system backup

Does it handle restore to a different system configuration reasonably well?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 Acronis.  $79 dollars I think I spent for 1 workstation where image 
 level backups and bare metal restores were a MUST.  It's a wonderful 
 product, worth every penny.

 Sam



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