date:20120910

A new custom cube shape(just like my patch) can be defined in AOO for MS
cube shape. But the focus is whether it is valued or not.

2012/9/11 Jianyuan Li 

> I think the geometry difference between AOO and MS can be taken as a
> feature gap. And the fill difference is the result of the feature gap when
> import/export.
>
>
> 2012/9/11 Regina Henschel 
>
>> Hi Jianyuan,
>>
>> Jianyuan Li schrieb:
>>
>>  Hi, Regina,
>>> Thanks for the good catch. I agree with you. See my comments in bugzilla.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jianyuan
>>>
>>
>> It remains the problem, that the corresponding shape in PowerPoint has
>> different kind of filling than the shape in AOO.
>>
>> Perhaps it is possible to generate a new shape during import without
>> adding it to any toolbox? In that way the shape would look the same as in
>> MS Office documents. And such generic import would give other still missing
>> shapes too.
>>
>> AOO can handle arbitrary custom shapes in ODF format. They do not need to
>> be in the predefined collection. But I don't know, whether MS Office has
>> this ability too. Therefore a round trip might be problematic.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2012/9/10 Regina Henschel 
>>>
>>>  Jianyuan Li schrieb:

   Hi, all,

>
> I have fixes for 2 shape geometry bugs. Can anyone help review? More
> details can be found in bugzilla comments. Thanks.
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120848
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120848>
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120870
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120870>
> >
>
>
>  I'm not sure about issue 120870. The current definition leads to three
 separate fillings and to breaking up into three polygons. Is that
 behavior
 preserved?

 Kind regards
 Regina



>>>
>>
>

Re: [Call-For-Review]Two shape geometry bugs

I think the geometry difference between AOO and MS can be taken as a
feature gap. And the fill difference is the result of the feature gap when
import/export.

2012/9/11 Regina Henschel 

> Hi Jianyuan,
>
> Jianyuan Li schrieb:
>
>  Hi, Regina,
>> Thanks for the good catch. I agree with you. See my comments in bugzilla.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jianyuan
>>
>
> It remains the problem, that the corresponding shape in PowerPoint has
> different kind of filling than the shape in AOO.
>
> Perhaps it is possible to generate a new shape during import without
> adding it to any toolbox? In that way the shape would look the same as in
> MS Office documents. And such generic import would give other still missing
> shapes too.
>
> AOO can handle arbitrary custom shapes in ODF format. They do not need to
> be in the predefined collection. But I don't know, whether MS Office has
> this ability too. Therefore a round trip might be problematic.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>
>> 2012/9/10 Regina Henschel 
>>
>>  Jianyuan Li schrieb:
>>>
>>>   Hi, all,
>>>

 I have fixes for 2 shape geometry bugs. Can anyone help review? More
 details can be found in bugzilla comments. Thanks.
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120848
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120848>
 >
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120870
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120870>
 >


  I'm not sure about issue 120870. The current definition leads to three
>>> separate fillings and to breaking up into three polygons. Is that
>>> behavior
>>> preserved?
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

2012-09-10 Thread Carl Marcum


Mangesh,

On 09/10/2012 08:25 AM, Shukla, Mangesh wrote:

Hi Carl,
Thanks for the update.

Regards
Mangesh


-Original Message-
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:c...@codebuilders.net]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:06 PM
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

Hi,

I have been working on it when I have a chance.

On 09/10/2012 06:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 9/10/12 10:30 AM, Shukla, Mangesh wrote:

Hi ,
 I am new to this forum and OpenOffice development as well.
I would like to know by when the Netbeans 7.2 plugin for OpenOffice.org3.4.0, 
will be available.
I am trying to run the SDK samples and cant' see the OpenOffice.org3.4 plugin 
in the Update center for Netbeans7.2. Any help on getting this will be highly 
appreciated.


there is work ongoing on the plugin and probably Carl can give an
update about the current status. Once this update work is done we can
try to reach out to the NetBeans guys to make the plugin again
available via their update center.

Juergen



See this page:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration

There is working alpha version linked to there.

I have a newer version I can update this evening US EST.

I'll post back on this thread when I've uploaded it.

@Juergen
After I've uploaded it. I thought I would tag it v3.0.0 What is the procedure 
for this? Review first? lazy consensus?

Best regards,
Carl




I have updated the wiki page:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration
to include what I've called the 3.0.0.beta version.

This page has a link to a 3.0.0.beta file you can download for convenience.

I have tagged the 3.0.0.beta in SVN

Due to the nbm file containing jars from the Netbeans distribution that 
may not be under Apache license, I also added instructions for checking 
out this from SVN and building in Netbeans and installing the plugin to 
Netbeans.


I hope this helps.

Please let us know if you have any issues.

Best regards,
Carl

RE: Moderating AOO Public Lists - #2 Moderation

2012-09-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

Thanks, TJ.  

That is a great point.  That can be done with our lists, too.

The only ones I reported, with considerable difficulty, were Linked In 
connection requests sent to ooo-private and ooo-users.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 15:24
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Moderating AOO Public Lists - #2 Moderation

[ ... ]

When moderating a couple of OO.o lists in their dying days, I took a 
more aggressive approach to spammers. If they were sending from any of 
the large U.S. ISPs (MS, Google, Yahoo, ATT, et al.) I would follow the 
complaint procedure to try to get the account closed. (This is a little 
different for the different companies: MS wants attachments, while 
others want pasted parts of the offending email.) MS in particular is 
polite about it; I'd get a note saying that the account has been closed. 
Others say thanks, but cite privacy regs, which I consider bogus; 
nonetheless, I don't recall ever getting any more spam from a 
complained-about account, if the ISP acked the complaint.

Note that this requires careful analysis of the internal headers: the 
main address is often munged, and you need to go way down to the last 
"received from" header. I have a little list of useful URLs to look up 
IP owners and ISP complaint addresses, if anybody wants it.

One real success was with a number of spammers from a .edu address. The 
admin I wrote to replied politely that the situation would be handled, 
and it was: their spam vanished.

This kind of work takes some time, but it makes the Net better for 
everybody, not just our ML.

/tj/

Re: [PERSONAL] My absence

2012-09-10 Thread Donald Harbison

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Carl Marcum  wrote:

> Best wishes to you and your family.
>
> Family is the most important thing.
>
> Best regards,
> Carl
>
>
> On 09/06/2012 04:28 PM, Donald Harbison wrote:
>
>> I feel it necessary to explain why I have been absent from discussions
>> here
>> and on ooo-private recently.
>>
>> My wife was stricken with a serious medical emergency Wednesday, August
>> 29th. She is recovering after surgery, and is in an intensive care unit
>> here in one of the top hospitals in Boston. Needless to say, my attention
>> is not on Apache OpenOffice as much as I love this project and community.
>> The past week has been personally very stressful and exhausting. Next week
>> looks a whole lot better as her condition has improved dramatically and
>> she
>> is now on the path to recovery.
>>
>> Graduation is a very important goal, I will be doing what I can to help
>> with this. I've also been actively leading the OpenOffice track
>> development
>> for ApacheCon EU. Oliver-Rainer Wittmann has stepped in to take over this
>> effort over the past week. Thank you Oliver.
>>
>> Thanks for your understanding. The medical team is optimistic that my wife
>> will have a full recovery, but it will be a lengthy process.  In the
>> meantime, I do plan to crank up my work engine as her care and situation
>> have now become much more stabilized.
>>
>
Good news to report! My wife will likely be discharged from the hospital
later this week. I am now starting to dig out from the huge backlog of
emails and get caught up on all the things that have transpired on
ooo-private, in particular, since our family emergency took my full
attention.

I do plan to step up and volunteer more in new areas besides communications
and concomm...time will tell how that looks. Count me in for Apache
OpenOffice successful graduation and long term success as a TLP.

Re: Moderating AOO Public Lists - #2 Moderation

2012-09-10 Thread TJ Frazier

On 9/10/2012 16:36, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

[Part 2 of tips for list moderators]

MODERATION [AND PRIVATE-LIST SUBSCRIPTION] REQUESTS ARE SENT TO ALL MODERATORS

Since the request is sent as an e-mail, each moderator receives the same
request.

The first moderation wins. You'll receive a notice if your moderation arrives
when another moderator's action has already been taken. That doesn't happen
very often.

The moderation request has the message being moderated as an attachment. Be
careful with it.

I will cover only moderation requests here. Subscription requests for private
lists are rather tricky.

1. SPAM DROPPING

If the message is clearly spam, IGNORE IT. Using the moderation-request
rejection option will send a message back to the original sender. That is
undesirable. It confirms to spammers that they've reached a working e-mail
address. Don't do that.

2. OFF-PURPOSE MESSAGES

As a moderator, I don't make it my job to handle messages that appear
legitimate but are sent to the wrong list. List subscribers can do that. And
if this is happening too much, it suggests that something needs to be done to
help submitters find the correct place more easily.

What I do is moderate the message onto the list. I have rarely used the reject
option, and only when I am confident the e-mail is from a legitimate sender.

There are two basic ways to moderate a message onto the list.

1. The message can be accepted in accordance with the instructions in the
moderation-request e-mail. That is a one-time acceptance.

2. Another way is to accept that message and all future messages to the list
from that sender.

The way to accept all messages from the sender is to make a REPLY ALL to the moderation-request
message. That is, your reply to the request is addressed to both the accept and the reject
addresses. (This solution is not always listed in the -help message. It works though.) You will
have to delete the "non-disclosed-recipients" e-mail address if that appears in your
"Reply All" message.

3. An alternative is to send a rejection with explanation. That is probably
not great. The messages from the robot are lengthy and cryptic. It may be
difficult for the original sender.

4. Finally, you can reply to the attachment and be helpful directly. I've done
that. I don't make a practice of it. It moves response and awareness of the kinds
of questions from the list to the moderator. If you *do* do this, it is wise to copy
-owner@ so that other moderators will know what happened. It is also
good to check the list to verify that some other moderator did not already allow the
message through.

3. ON-PURPOSE MESSAGES

I recommend the second moderation-in technique for these. This can also happen
when a list subscriber uses a different e-mail than the one they have
subscribed to the list.

Discussion?

- Dennis

When moderating a couple of OO.o lists in their dying days, I took a
more aggressive approach to spammers. If they were sending from any of
the large U.S. ISPs (MS, Google, Yahoo, ATT, et al.) I would follow the
complaint procedure to try to get the account closed. (This is a little
different for the different companies: MS wants attachments, while
others want pasted parts of the offending email.) MS in particular is
polite about it; I'd get a note saying that the account has been closed.
Others say thanks, but cite privacy regs, which I consider bogus;
nonetheless, I don't recall ever getting any more spam from a
complained-about account, if the ISP acked the complaint.

Note that this requires careful analysis of the internal headers: the
main address is often munged, and you need to go way down to the last
"received from" header. I have a little list of useful URLs to look up
IP owners and ISP complaint addresses, if anybody wants it.

One real success was with a number of spammers from a .edu address. The
admin I wrote to replied politely that the situation would be handled,
and it was: their spam vanished.

This kind of work takes some time, but it makes the Net better for
everybody, not just our ML.

/tj/

Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-10 Thread David McKay



On 10/09/12 22:56, Rob Weir wrote:

On Sep 10, 2012, at 11:32 AM, TJ Frazier  wrote:


On 9/9/2012 12:25, David McKay wrote:

On 09/09/12 17:19, David McKay wrote:

On 08/09/12 22:06, TJ Frazier wrote:

On 9/8/2012 16:50, tj wrote:

On 9/8/2012 12:01, David McKay wrote:

On 08/09/12 06:50, Rob Weir wrote:

2. Bugzilla Admin

I can probably help out on this item, if someone can send me some
details of what is involved/expected (I have been a Bugzilla admin as
part of a paid role in a previous job).

Dave.

Hi, Dave,

I remember your previous posts on this, and your help will be very
welcome. I am totally ignorant of the underlying code, so as a BZ admin
I stick to the little day-to-day stuff: adding privileges or deleting
too-personal attachments. Others are of course welcome to do those,
too;
if I don't "know" somebody from the list, I generally wait three days
(lazy consensus) and add privileges if nobody objects.

Some of the larger things which have been done by others (including
Rob)
involve adding fields or groups, and adding values to field lists (e.g.
"3.4.1" to the version options).

If you are not already an admin, let me know your BZ id.

Never mind, found it. Welcome to BZ admin. --/tj/

Great, thank you. I'm on vacation right now and away from home, so my
access to email and the net are sporadic. Thanks for the inclusion to
BZ Admin.

I just checked and I do indeed have admin rights. Is there a list
somewhere of things that need doing, or do they arrive in an ad-hoc
fashion? And is there a list of the BZ admins so we all know who the
others are?

Dave.

Things-to-do have been just trickling in, at a low rate, maybe 1 per week. Last 
week was really busy: 4 requests! :-) If the volume picks up, we might discuss 
some more formal list arrangement.

So requests are just emailed in to one of the lists? I can monitor those.

Dave.




Note that there is a BZ admin area in our Bugzilla. Admin-related
requests can be entered there, though I was probably the only one who
did this regularly. But the workflow tracking might be useful.


OK, thanks. I'll take a look at it.

Dave.




For BZ admins, won't BZ give us a group-membership list? Haven't looked.

/tj/

Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-10 Thread Rob Weir

On Sep 10, 2012, at 11:32 AM, TJ Frazier  wrote:

> On 9/9/2012 12:25, David McKay wrote:
>>
>> On 09/09/12 17:19, David McKay wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/09/12 22:06, TJ Frazier wrote:
 On 9/8/2012 16:50, tj wrote:
> On 9/8/2012 12:01, David McKay wrote:
>>
>> On 08/09/12 06:50, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>>> 2. Bugzilla Admin
>> I can probably help out on this item, if someone can send me some
>> details of what is involved/expected (I have been a Bugzilla admin as
>> part of a paid role in a previous job).
>>
>> Dave.
>>>
> Hi, Dave,
>
> I remember your previous posts on this, and your help will be very
> welcome. I am totally ignorant of the underlying code, so as a BZ admin
> I stick to the little day-to-day stuff: adding privileges or deleting
> too-personal attachments. Others are of course welcome to do those,
> too;
> if I don't "know" somebody from the list, I generally wait three days
> (lazy consensus) and add privileges if nobody objects.
>
> Some of the larger things which have been done by others (including
> Rob)
> involve adding fields or groups, and adding values to field lists (e.g.
> "3.4.1" to the version options).
>
> If you are not already an admin, let me know your BZ id.

 Never mind, found it. Welcome to BZ admin. --/tj/
>>> Great, thank you. I'm on vacation right now and away from home, so my
>>> access to email and the net are sporadic. Thanks for the inclusion to
>>> BZ Admin.

>> I just checked and I do indeed have admin rights. Is there a list
>> somewhere of things that need doing, or do they arrive in an ad-hoc
>> fashion? And is there a list of the BZ admins so we all know who the
>> others are?
>>
>> Dave.
>
> Things-to-do have been just trickling in, at a low rate, maybe 1 per week. 
> Last week was really busy: 4 requests! :-) If the volume picks up, we might 
> discuss some more formal list arrangement.
>


Note that there is a BZ admin area in our Bugzilla. Admin-related
requests can be entered there, though I was probably the only one who
did this regularly. But the workflow tracking might be useful.


> For BZ admins, won't BZ give us a group-membership list? Haven't looked.
>
> /tj/
>
>

Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-10 Thread TJ Frazier


On 9/9/2012 12:25, David McKay wrote:


On 09/09/12 17:19, David McKay wrote:


On 08/09/12 22:06, TJ Frazier wrote:

On 9/8/2012 16:50, tj wrote:

On 9/8/2012 12:01, David McKay wrote:


On 08/09/12 06:50, Rob Weir wrote:



2. Bugzilla Admin

I can probably help out on this item, if someone can send me some
details of what is involved/expected (I have been a Bugzilla admin as
part of a paid role in a previous job).

Dave.



Hi, Dave,

I remember your previous posts on this, and your help will be very
welcome. I am totally ignorant of the underlying code, so as a BZ admin
I stick to the little day-to-day stuff: adding privileges or deleting
too-personal attachments. Others are of course welcome to do those,
too;
if I don't "know" somebody from the list, I generally wait three days
(lazy consensus) and add privileges if nobody objects.

Some of the larger things which have been done by others (including
Rob)
involve adding fields or groups, and adding values to field lists (e.g.
"3.4.1" to the version options).

If you are not already an admin, let me know your BZ id.


Never mind, found it. Welcome to BZ admin. --/tj/

Great, thank you. I'm on vacation right now and away from home, so my
access to email and the net are sporadic. Thanks for the inclusion to
BZ Admin.



I just checked and I do indeed have admin rights. Is there a list
somewhere of things that need doing, or do they arrive in an ad-hoc
fashion? And is there a list of the BZ admins so we all know who the
others are?

Dave.


Things-to-do have been just trickling in, at a low rate, maybe 1 per 
week. Last week was really busy: 4 requests! :-) If the volume picks up, 
we might discuss some more formal list arrangement.


For BZ admins, won't BZ give us a group-membership list? Haven't looked.

/tj/

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-10 Thread Simon Phipps

If you do, I suggest also including the timezone we're covering so we can spot 
gaps. For example, while I am located in UTC I generally cover UTC-5.

S.

On 10 Sep 2012, at 02:47, Shenfeng Liu wrote:

> Thanks very much for the list, Dave!
> I wonder if it is proper to publish the ML moderator list (at least for
> those public MLs) on a wiki, so that it can be easily maintained and
> updated on time?
> 
> - Simon
> 
> 
> 2012/9/9 Dave Fisher 
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to
>> revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we
>> should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.)
>> 
>> I think the action list and number of moderators needed is:
>> ooo-commits - 2
>> ooo-dev - 1
>> ooo-issues - 2
>> ooo-notifications - 2
>> ooo-private - 2
>> ooo-security - 2
>> ooo-users - 2
>> ooo-users-fr - ?
>> 
>> 
>> Below I put a ? where I think we need people
>> 
>> ooo-announce
>> imacat
>> robweir - Rob did not include this in his list.
>> ?
>> 
>> ooo-commits
>> danese - Mentor
>> robweir
>> ?
>> ?
>> 
>> ooo-dev
>> robweir
>> danese - mentor
>> pj
>> ?
>> ?
>> 
>> ooo-general-es
>> arielch
>> juanm...@gmail.com
>> 
>> ooo-general-ja
>> khirano
>> maho
>> 
>> ooo-geral-ptbr
>> bino28
>> filhocf
>> lcolui...@gmail.com
>> 
>> ooo-issues
>> danese - mentor
>> rubys - mentor
>> ?
>> ?
>> 
>> ooo-l10n
>> khirano
>> paolopoz
>> robweir
>> yo
>> 
>> ooo-marketing
>> bmcs
>> yo
>> jsc
>> jza
>> khirano
>> pj
>> robweir
>> si...@webmink.com
>> 
>> ooo-notifications
>> danese - mentor
>> rubys - mentor
>> ?
>> ?
>> 
>> ooo-private
>> robweir
>> danese - mentor
>> jsc
>> orcmid
>> ? Louis?
>> ?
>> 
>> ooo-progetto-it
>> dav...@flossconsulting.it
>> paolopoz
>> pescetti
>> 
>> ooo-qa
>> lilyzh...@gmail.com
>> maho
>> robweir
>> 
>> ooo-security
>> malte
>> robweir
>> ?
>> Who is left on this list as subscribers?
>> 
>> ooo-users
>> khirano
>> orcmid
>> pj
>> robweir
>> si...@webmink.com
>> ?
>> 
>> ooo-users-de
>> mikeadvo
>> rbircher
>> 
>> ooo-users-fr
>> ericb2 - resigned from ppmc / committer.
>> vince...@laposte.net
>> water...@sunrise.ch
>> What are we doing with the French list. Anyone know?
>> 
>> ooo-utenti-it
>> dav...@flossconsulting.it
>> paolopoz
>> pescetti
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>

Moderating AOO Public Lists - #2 Moderation

2012-09-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

[Part 2 of tips for list moderators]

MODERATION [AND PRIVATE-LIST SUBSCRIPTION] REQUESTS ARE SENT TO ALL MODERATORS

Since the request is sent as an e-mail, each moderator receives the same 
request. 

The first moderation wins.  You'll receive a notice if your moderation arrives 
when another moderator's action has already been taken.  That doesn't happen 
very often.

The moderation request has the message being moderated as an attachment.  Be 
careful with it.  

I will cover only moderation requests here.  Subscription requests for private 
lists are rather tricky.

1. SPAM DROPPING

If the message is clearly spam, IGNORE IT.  Using the moderation-request 
rejection option will send a message back to the original sender.  That is 
undesirable.  It confirms to spammers that they've reached a working e-mail 
address.  Don't do that.

2. OFF-PURPOSE MESSAGES

As a moderator, I don't make it my job to handle messages that appear 
legitimate but are sent to the wrong list.  List subscribers can do that.  And 
if this is happening too much, it suggests that something needs to be done to 
help submitters find the correct place more easily.

What I do is moderate the message onto the list.  I have rarely used the reject 
option, and only when I am confident the e-mail is from a legitimate sender.

There are two basic ways to moderate a message onto the list.  

 1. The message can be accepted in accordance with the instructions in the 
moderation-request e-mail.  That is a one-time acceptance.

 2. Another way is to accept that message and all future messages to the list 
from that sender.

The way to accept all messages from the sender is to make a REPLY ALL to the 
moderation-request message.  That is, your reply to the request is addressed to 
both the accept and the reject addresses.  (This solution is not always listed 
in the -help message.  It works though.) You will have to delete the 
"non-disclosed-recipients" e-mail address if that appears in your "Reply All" 
message.  

 3. An alternative is to send a rejection with explanation.  That is probably 
not great.  The messages from the robot are lengthy and cryptic.  It may be 
difficult for the original sender.

 4. Finally, you can reply to the attachment and be helpful directly.  I've 
done that.  I don't make a practice of it.  It moves response and awareness of 
the kinds of questions from the list to the moderator.  If you *do* do this, it 
is wise to copy -owner@ so that other moderators will know what 
happened.  It is also good to check the list to verify that some other 
moderator did not already allow the message through.

3. ON-PURPOSE MESSAGES

I recommend the second moderation-in technique for these.  This can also happen 
when a list subscriber uses a different e-mail than the one they have 
subscribed to the list.


 
Discussion?

 - Dennis

[BUILD] atlthunk

2012-09-10 Thread Andrew Rist


Herbert,
do you know the context for this change?
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1343720 - "force 
atlthunk addition when linking with atls library"
The lack of atlthunk is stopping the build and the file doesn't seem to 
be in VS 2008 pro.  (Or is there something I did not install when 
installing VS 2008?)

A.

Re: [DL][Website] First draft of the new DL scripting

2012-09-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 09/07/2012 12:03 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 09/06/2012 02:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 09/06/2012 01:33 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 09/02/2012 03:18 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On 09/02/2012 08:02 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Hi all,

I was busy at the weekend to clean-up the DL scripting.

The new webpages are accessible here (as long as they are not
published):

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/other.html

Some notes before you start with checking out:

1.
The current focus is on reducing complexity, better simplification and
more automatism. Not the design and layout. This is nearly the same.

2.
It's normal that not all links will work as it's only a part of the
download area. It depends on the link itself if it's not yet
working or
really broken. ;-)

3.
When you find errors and want to report them please make sure to
browse
to the following webpage to help me with some debug data:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/analyze.html

Next big step is to implement the new directory structure on the
mirrors.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Marcus

VERY good! I am looking at changes in svn and I can see MUCH
improvement. I will try to help with suggestions in the coming week.

...more

You are making very good progress and I hesitate to just make changes
without discussion.

What do you suggest for this?? Additional sections on the wiki page??

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Improvements+for+the+download+webpages

Hm, I've already created a new table in the Wiki to document the
separating the general improvements from the one towards the new mirror
structure.

But I think this is now enough. Otherwise the overview is really gone.

attachment of pertinent files to the wiki page with comments?

When the things are discussed and done then these data normally remains
- at least this is my impression from other Wiki pages. Then the is also
gone. Besides this I think it becomes very fast a real clutch.

Let's see if we can make some progress here on the ML. When there is
something valuable, then we can take it over to the Wiki page. So, I
would suggest to create new threads with appropriate tags like "[DL
scripting][SCHEMA] ..."

What do you think?

yes, that's a good idea...after re-thinking, maybe my ideas were too
complicated for what you've already successfully simplified.

As things go on, we can revive this if needed.

Thanks again for all you've done, really. Your changes have already
improved the logic a lot. I'll do some more testing.

On the weekend I'll have more spare time and I'm planning to do the next
updates. So, if you (or anybody else !) have some ideas while testing,
just tell me.

Marcus

Moderating AOO Public Lists - #1 Setting Up

2012-09-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

[To support current interest in lists and their moderation, I've compiled some 
tips on what to expect and how to operate as a moderator.  The version for 
private lists has been well-received.  I am now posting this public-list 
version for information and wider review.]

Here are some tips for starting as a moderator on any Apache OpenOffice public 
lists.  This may be old news for current moderators.  I am providing it for the 
benefit of newcomers and the curious.  After any improvements that are 
suggested, I'll consolidate these in a place where they can be found for future 
reference.

1. MODERATOR WORKLOAD

The mailing list moderation system is e-mail driven.  The needs for moderation 
arrive in the moderators in-box as messages from the list robot.  Moderators 
may also receive messages that are directed to them via the list's owner 
address (i.e., -owner@ incubator.apache.org).

It is not necessary to read the lists often or in their entirety.  It is useful 
to keep an eye on lists to ensure there is not some technical issue to report.  
Participating on the list is not a requirement for moderation.  Being a 
moderator does not even subscribe you to the list, although moderators of 
private lists certainly need to be subscribed to those lists.

There are only two kinds of moderator mails from the list robot: requests for 
approval of posts from non-subscribers and subscription requests (only for 
private lists).  On public lists, subscription does not require any moderator 
action and none is requested by the list robot.

2. MODERATOR E-MAIL ADDRESSES

When starting as a moderator, it is important to choose an e-mail address where 
you will receive moderator-directed mail.  It works best if this is an e-mail 
address that you can also use to send e-mail from.  If you use an e-mail 
address that is handled by a forwarding service, it is desirable for you to be 
able to send e-mail from an account of yours that allows that e-mail in the 
"From:" entry.

For ASF Committers, the ideal e-mail address is the Apache Account Name/ID 
address, @ apache.org.  

When a moderator e-mail is to be added, removed, or changed, the procedure is 
the same:

 * Open a JIRA task ticket on the Infrastructure project, with component 
"Mailing Lists."  This is usually done by a PPMC Member using 
.

 * Request any e-mail addresses to be removed (and at whose request/authority, 
if they are not yours).

 * Request any e-mail addresses to be added. 

 * TIP: To make this easier in managing your own address in the future, use an 
e-mail of a forwarding service where you can update the forwarding yourself 
without changing the e-mail address used by the mailing-list robot.  You can 
use the first step (below) to confirm that the forwarded e-mail address is 
recognized properly.

The JIRA tickets are usually acted-upon within 24 hours.

 
 3. THE FIRST STEP

The first new-moderator action is to send an e-mail to

   -help@ incubator.apache.org

Send that e-mail from an account that has your moderator-listed e-mail as its 
From: address.  (If there is no such account for sending, but you can receive 
at your moderator e-mail, use a sending e-mail account that allows you to 
specify a different From: address.)

When the e-mail robot recognizes that the request is from a moderator e-mail, 
it will send a moderator version of the list help message.  The subject will be 
"Moderator help for @ incubator.apache.org".

Save that e-mail.  

Remember how easy it is to do that again when needed.


 3. IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, send a note to the existing moderators at 
-owner@, and we'll see how to sort it out.  If there is no response 
within one day, communicate with one of the existing moderators to work with 
you in resolving the difficulty.



 - Dennis

Re: [DL][Website] First draft of the new DL scripting

2012-09-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 09/10/2012 11:53 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 9/6/12 11:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 09/06/2012 01:33 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 09/02/2012 03:18 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On 09/02/2012 08:02 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Hi all,

I was busy at the weekend to clean-up the DL scripting.

The new webpages are accessible here (as long as they are not
published):

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/other.html

Some notes before you start with checking out:

1.
The current focus is on reducing complexity, better simplification and
more automatism. Not the design and layout. This is nearly the same.

2.
It's normal that not all links will work as it's only a part of the
download area. It depends on the link itself if it's not yet working or
really broken. ;-)

3.
When you find errors and want to report them please make sure to browse
to the following webpage to help me with some debug data:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/analyze.html

Next big step is to implement the new directory structure on the
mirrors.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Marcus

VERY good! I am looking at changes in svn and I can see MUCH
improvement. I will try to help with suggestions in the coming week.

...more

You are making very good progress and I hesitate to just make changes
without discussion.

What do you suggest for this?? Additional sections on the wiki page??

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Improvements+for+the+download+webpages

Hm, I've already created a new table in the Wiki to document the
separating the general improvements from the one towards the new mirror
structure.

But I think this is now enough. Otherwise the overview is really gone.

attachment of pertinent files to the wiki page with comments?

What do you think?

Marcus

I think we can finalize the future directory structure #part 2 on the
wiki page.

Current proposal:
.../ooo//source/
.../ooo//bin//
.../ooo//bin/SDK/

When I remember there were some concerns regarding "bin". And I would

Hm, I don't know if it makes really a difference in case of names on
mirrors. ;-) But OK, let's call it "binaries".

keep the project name open or flexible assuming a change in favor of "aoo".

...///source/
...///binaries//
...///binaries/SDK/

Where PROJECT_NAME is something like "ooo" or "aoo" or "openoffice". I
would say we need no voting for this and need further discussion only if
somebody see some problems with the new proposed structure.

So, waiting for the final definition. For the moment I'll use "aoo" for
my testing.

Marcus

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

On 10 September 2012 15:27, Louis Suárez-Potts  wrote:
>
> On 12-09-08, at 20:58 , Peter Junge  wrote:
>
>> On 9/9/2012 6:41 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to 
>>> revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we 
>>> should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.)
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Below I put a ? where I think we need people
>>>
>>> ooo-announce
>>> imacat
>>> robweir - Rob did not include this in his list.
>>> ?
>>
>> You may add me. (I'm pj@a.o)
>> [...]
>>
>>> ooo-issues
>>> danese - mentor
>>> rubys - mentor
>>
>> You may add me.
>>
>>>
>>> ooo-notifications
>>> danese - mentor
>>> rubys - mentor
>>
>> You may add me.
>>
>>> ooo-private
>>> robweir
>>> danese - mentor
>>> jsc
>>> orcmid
>>> ? Louis?
>>
>> You may add me.
>>
>>> ooo-qa
>>> lilyzh...@gmail.com
>>> maho
>>> robweir
>>
>> You may add me.
>>
>> Peter
>
>
> Please also add me to all those email lists, too, if you have not already. 
> I'm still going through mail…..
>
> My alias is luispo at gmail.
>
> Louis

If it helps, add me to 000-dev. I'm on + UTC. If that is covered I
can do something else.
-- 
Ian

Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ)

www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940

The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth,
Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and
Wales.

Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 08/09/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

I'd like to shed some responsibilities and I hope there
are volunteers able or willing to learn to pick up the following: ...
4. Generally making sure things don't fall through the cracks. For
example, look at posts from a week ago and see which ones have not
been responded to.  Look at trademark, press, movie property requests,
etc. and make sure necessary workflow and approvals are secured.


I've occasionally taken care of this and I can continue to help with 
this task, monitoring recent posts on the ooo-dev and ooo-private 
mailing lists and making sure they get answered if appropriate.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [Call-For-Review]Two shape geometry bugs

2012-09-10 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi Jianyuan,

Jianyuan Li schrieb:

Hi, Regina,
Thanks for the good catch. I agree with you. See my comments in bugzilla.

Regards,
Jianyuan


It remains the problem, that the corresponding shape in PowerPoint has 
different kind of filling than the shape in AOO.


Perhaps it is possible to generate a new shape during import without 
adding it to any toolbox? In that way the shape would look the same as 
in MS Office documents. And such generic import would give other still 
missing shapes too.


AOO can handle arbitrary custom shapes in ODF format. They do not need 
to be in the predefined collection. But I don't know, whether MS Office 
has this ability too. Therefore a round trip might be problematic.


Kind regards
Regina




2012/9/10 Regina Henschel 


Jianyuan Li schrieb:

  Hi, all,


I have fixes for 2 shape geometry bugs. Can anyone help review? More
details can be found in bugzilla comments. Thanks.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120848
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120870



I'm not sure about issue 120870. The current definition leads to three
separate fillings and to breaking up into three polygons. Is that behavior
preserved?

Kind regards
Regina

Re: Clipart library

On 10 September 2012 15:12, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
> 2012/9/10 Joost Andrae 
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just to shorten this thread: There is already a possibility to add clipart
>> to AOO by using the extension mechanism. Just have a look at the extensions
>> page and search for clipart:
>>
>> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org
>>
>>
>>  I think we probably don't want bundle it with AOO directly. I can think
 of an extended gallery implementation where it is possible to hook
 online galleries as well.


>> Bundling clipart unnecessarily enlarges the download. Additionally clipart
>> bundles need to be proof checked against content that might be politically
>> incorrect based on local laws. Just remember that symbols of the german WW2
>> regime are not allowed to be used in Germany. Clipart collections
>> containing flags _must_ include the officially used flags containing no
>> design changes. In Germany eg. it is fined by monetary penalty or by prison
>> sentence of max. 3 years (StGB §90a) if someone denounces the colours, the
>> flag, the emblem or the anthem of Germany. I believe similar laws do exist
>> in other countries as well.
>>
>>
>>> +1 (for Clipart as well as Template). AOO should provide a kind of
>>> capability (with extensions) to easily search or browse the online
>>> resources. It is another perspective of Cloud/Social Integration value.
>>>
>>>
>> Why do you think it is a good idea to integrate cloud services or social
>> media into AOO ? I'm not convinced at all. People should decide themselves
>> which services they want to have added to AOO. And there are already
>> several cloud based service providers that provide extensions for AOO (like
>> teamdrive.com). Using extensions for such service integrations is an
>> appropriate way.
>
>
> Sorry that my post was too short. Let me explain the ideal scenario in my
> mind:
>
> 1. When I installed a clean AOO, I hope to have 10~20 most frequent used
> build-in cliparts in local repository from AOO installation package.

There is already artwork in the gallery so adding a few more is not
likely to have any significant impact on download bandwidth,
especially if the right images are chosen. Ordinary end-users expect
to see it and will be given more confidence by seeing stuff in the
gallery rather than a lot of void.

> 2. But from time to time, I may want to look for more cliparts. So I hope
> to have a button like "Search more cliparts on XXX". (XXX maybe any website
> that provide clipart library, e.g. Open Clipart, Google, Baidu...)

Yes, make it easy for the most inexperienced user. Remember most
people have never even heard of OpenClipArt and most would not know
what to do with an extension.

> 3. I clicked on the button and searched the clipart I want. (Remember
> different site may categorize their cliparts in different way.)

Another good point. Finding this with searches is one thing
transferring them to the gallery is another.

> 4. I insert the clipart I searched out to my document.
> 5. I like the searched out clipart very much and believe I will use it
> frequently. So I stored this clipart to my local repository.
> 6.  I get notified for new/hot cliparts.
>
> With the scenario above:
> 1. should be provided by AOO.
> 2, 3 & 6 should be provided by an extension specific to a clipart site that
> I installed later. If I want the capability to search in multiple sites, I
> may need to install multiple extensions. (Or any better suggestion?)
> 4 & 5, should be from the extension, but AOO should provide interface for
> good user experience (e.g. the capability to add a clipart to local
> repository with a drag&drop).

+1. The main issue is that end users expect clipart with their office
software and they don't expect to have to start configuring stuff to
get it.
-- 
Ian

Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ)

www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940

The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth,
Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and
Wales.

[QA Report]Weekly Report and Defect Analysis Report

2012-09-10 Thread Ji Yan

Hi all,

  This week's QA report[1] and defect analysis report[2] are available now.
Please review
[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/WeeklyReport/20120910
[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/20120910

-- 


Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-10 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts


On 12-09-08, at 20:58 , Peter Junge  wrote:

> On 9/9/2012 6:41 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to 
>> revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we 
>> should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.)
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Below I put a ? where I think we need people
>> 
>> ooo-announce
>> imacat
>> robweir - Rob did not include this in his list.
>> ?
> 
> You may add me. (I'm pj@a.o)
> [...]
> 
>> ooo-issues
>> danese - mentor
>> rubys - mentor
> 
> You may add me.
> 
>> 
>> ooo-notifications
>> danese - mentor
>> rubys - mentor
> 
> You may add me.
> 
>> ooo-private
>> robweir
>> danese - mentor
>> jsc
>> orcmid
>> ? Louis?
> 
> You may add me.
> 
>> ooo-qa
>> lilyzh...@gmail.com
>> maho
>> robweir
> 
> You may add me.
> 
> Peter


Please also add me to all those email lists, too, if you have not already. I'm 
still going through mail…..

My alias is luispo at gmail.

Louis

CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 正式发布

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@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
   Apache OpenOffice™ 3.4.1 正式发布，支援更多语言，更快更稳定。 
   http://www.openoffice.org/";>Apache OpenOffice 团队正式发布 Apache 
OpenOffice 3.4.1 。这是开放免费的文书软件 Apache OpenOffice 的最新版本。维护更新版 3.4.1 版，以全球 228 国http://www.openoffice.org/stats/";>下载超过一百二十万次的 Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 
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   http://www.openoffice.org/";>Apache OpenOffice （原名 
OpenOffice.org ）目前为 Apache 的育成专案。 
-  3.4.1 版详情，可参阅http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html";>版本说明。其中重点包括：
 
+  3.4.1 版详情，可参阅http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/releases/3.4.1_rn.html";>版本说明。其中重点包括：
 

 新增支援高棉文、芬兰文、英式英文、斯洛伐尼亚文及http://www.openoffice.org/sk/";>斯洛伐克文，并更新荷兰文、西班牙文、义大利文、匈牙利文。加上原有的美式英文、德文、日文、捷克文、法文、巴西葡萄牙文、俄文、简体中文、正体中文版本、加利西亚文及阿拉伯文，支援达
 20 种语言。
 支援由 Windows XP 到 Windows 8 ， Linux 32 位元及 64 位元，及苹果 Mac 作业系统，包括最新的山狮 
(Mountain Lion) 。本版修正相容性支援，在 Windows 8 上执行更顺畅。

Re: Clipart library

2012/9/10 Joost Andrae 

> Hi,
>
> just to shorten this thread: There is already a possibility to add clipart
> to AOO by using the extension mechanism. Just have a look at the extensions
> page and search for clipart:
>
> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org
>
>
>  I think we probably don't want bundle it with AOO directly. I can think
>>> of an extended gallery implementation where it is possible to hook
>>> online galleries as well.
>>>
>>>
> Bundling clipart unnecessarily enlarges the download. Additionally clipart
> bundles need to be proof checked against content that might be politically
> incorrect based on local laws. Just remember that symbols of the german WW2
> regime are not allowed to be used in Germany. Clipart collections
> containing flags _must_ include the officially used flags containing no
> design changes. In Germany eg. it is fined by monetary penalty or by prison
> sentence of max. 3 years (StGB §90a) if someone denounces the colours, the
> flag, the emblem or the anthem of Germany. I believe similar laws do exist
> in other countries as well.
>
>
>
>> +1 (for Clipart as well as Template). AOO should provide a kind of
>> capability (with extensions) to easily search or browse the online
>> resources. It is another perspective of Cloud/Social Integration value.
>>
>>
> Why do you think it is a good idea to integrate cloud services or social
> media into AOO ? I'm not convinced at all. People should decide themselves
> which services they want to have added to AOO. And there are already
> several cloud based service providers that provide extensions for AOO (like
> teamdrive.com). Using extensions for such service integrations is an
> appropriate way.


Sorry that my post was too short. Let me explain the ideal scenario in my
mind:

1. When I installed a clean AOO, I hope to have 10~20 most frequent used
build-in cliparts in local repository from AOO installation package.
2. But from time to time, I may want to look for more cliparts. So I hope
to have a button like "Search more cliparts on XXX". (XXX maybe any website
that provide clipart library, e.g. Open Clipart, Google, Baidu...)
3. I clicked on the button and searched the clipart I want. (Remember
different site may categorize their cliparts in different way.)
4. I insert the clipart I searched out to my document.
5. I like the searched out clipart very much and believe I will use it
frequently. So I stored this clipart to my local repository.
6.  I get notified for new/hot cliparts.

With the scenario above:
1. should be provided by AOO.
2, 3 & 6 should be provided by an extension specific to a clipart site that
I installed later. If I want the capability to search in multiple sites, I
may need to install multiple extensions. (Or any better suggestion?)
4 & 5, should be from the extension, but AOO should provide interface for
good user experience (e.g. the capability to add a clipart to local
repository with a drag&drop).

- Simon


>
>
>  - Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ok in case of OpenClipart it raises the question how it should be
>>> organized/presented to our users. But allowing access to the online
>>> resources will guarantee that we are up-to-date.
>>>
>>
> The extension framework should be able to guarantee that an extension is
> up-to-date, you know...
>
>
> Kind regards, Joost
>

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-Title: Why Apache OpenOffice: Enterprises
+Title: 为何选择Apache OpenOffice：企业
 Notice:Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
distributed with this work for additional information
@@ -16,20 +16,20 @@
specific language governing permissions and limitations
under the License.
 
-![Why Apache OpenOffice: Enterprises](/why/images/why_sme.png) # {.rfloatimg}
+![为何选择Apache OpenOffice：企业](/why/images/why_sme.png) # {.rfloatimg}
 
-Enterprises from corner-shops to corporate giants are turning to Apache 
OpenOffice to power their businesses. The **flexible word processor**, 
**powerful spreadsheet**, **dynamic graphics**, **database access** and more 
meet all the requirements for an office software package.
+许多企业，从街边的小店到大型集团，都在转向Apache 
OpenOffice以增强他们的商业竞争力。**灵活的文本编辑器**，**强大的电子表格**，**灵活的绘图**，**数据库访问**等等，可以满足大家对一个办公软件包的所有需求。
 
-OpenOffice offers a high degree of compatibility with commercial office 
software, but with none of the costs or licence worries.
+OpenOffice能够与商业办公软件高度兼容，却不存在费用和许可协议上的顾虑。
 
-  - **The no-hassle answer**
+  - **一个没有困难的答案**
 
-For small businesses, IT is a hassle and an expense. Apache OpenOffice is 
simply the easiest and cheapest way of providing the essential software tools 
required to support a growing business. Developed over twenty years, OpenOffice 
is a mature, stable, product, guaranteeing trouble-free usage. Behind the 
scenes, it stores all your valuable data in a format approved by the 
International Organization for Standardization - the first software package in 
the world to meet this exacting standard. As more companies adopt the standard, 
exchanging data between office software, accounting software, planning software 
- any software - will become as easy as saving and opening a file. No 
transcription errors, no typing the same information twice - no hassle 
computing.
+对于小型企业来说，IT是一大难题，而且意味着一笔可观的开销。Apache 
OpenOffice提供了最简单也最经济的方式来用精品软件工具来支持业务的持续增长。经过二十多年的开发，OpenOffice已经是一款成熟稳定的产品，使用它绝不会有麻烦。在后台，它将你的所有有价值的数据都以国际标准化组织批准的格式存储起来——OpenOffice是第一个全面符合这一标准的软件包。随着越来越多的公司应用这一标准，在办公软件、财务软件、项目计划软件等各种软件之间交换数据将简单到只是保持和打开一个文件。没有脚本错误，没有信息的重复录入——没有任何困难。
 
-  - **Better but compatible**
+  - **兼容并蓄，更进一步**
 
-Apache OpenOffice prides itself on its compatibility with other office 
software. Companies moving to OpenOffice simply take their existing files with 
them. In fact, changing to OpenOffice may be a simpler process than having to 
upgrade because your commercial software vendor has brought out a new version. 
OpenOffice also understands that no business is an island, which is why it can 
exchange files with other office software - for example, the one your 
accountants use. It also allows you to create PDF files for those all-important 
times when you want to retain control of documents after they leave your office.
+与其它办公软件的兼容一直是Apache 
OpenOffice引以为豪的地方。迁移到OpenOffice的公司只要简单地带上他们原有的文件就可以了。事实上，迁移到OpenOffice的过程可能比因为你的商业软件提供商有了新版本而被迫选择升级更简单。OpenOffice很清楚没有孤岛上的业务，所以它能够和其它办公软件——比如你的财务所使用的——交换文件。它还可以为你创建PDF文件，使你能够在一些重要的时候确保你传送出去的文件中的内容依然在你的控制中。
 
-  - **Open for business**
+  - **开放式的业务支持**
 
-Amazingly, Apache OpenOffice comes without any license fees, or any 
worrying small print. You can install it on as many computers as you like, use 
it for any purpose, and even give copies away for employees to use at home. No 
more threats of heavy-handed software audits disturbing your business. You 
don't even have to worry about what to install - OpenOffice is one complete 
package. If you need extra languages, simply install them.
+令人惊奇的是，Apache 
OpenOffice没有任何的许可协议费，或其它令人担忧的小麻烦。你可以将OpenOffice安装到任意数量的电脑上，用于任何目的，甚至将拷贝给员工回家安装使用。不用被严厉的软件审查所威胁，而使你的核心业务被打搅。你甚至不用担心应该安装什么——OpenOffice是一个完整的软件包。如果你需要额外的语言支持，简单地安装上它们就好。

Re: Clipart library

2012-09-10 Thread Joost Andrae


Hi,

just to shorten this thread: There is already a possibility to add 
clipart to AOO by using the extension mechanism. Just have a look at the 
extensions page and search for clipart:


http://extensions.services.openoffice.org


I think we probably don't want bundle it with AOO directly. I can think
of an extended gallery implementation where it is possible to hook
online galleries as well.



Bundling clipart unnecessarily enlarges the download. Additionally 
clipart bundles need to be proof checked against content that might be 
politically incorrect based on local laws. Just remember that symbols of 
the german WW2 regime are not allowed to be used in Germany. Clipart 
collections containing flags _must_ include the officially used flags 
containing no design changes. In Germany eg. it is fined by monetary 
penalty or by prison sentence of max. 3 years (StGB §90a) if someone 
denounces the colours, the flag, the emblem or the anthem of Germany. I 
believe similar laws do exist in other countries as well.




+1 (for Clipart as well as Template). AOO should provide a kind of
capability (with extensions) to easily search or browse the online
resources. It is another perspective of Cloud/Social Integration value.



Why do you think it is a good idea to integrate cloud services or social 
media into AOO ? I'm not convinced at all. People should decide 
themselves which services they want to have added to AOO. And there are 
already several cloud based service providers that provide extensions 
for AOO (like teamdrive.com). Using extensions for such service 
integrations is an appropriate way.



- Simon




Ok in case of OpenClipart it raises the question how it should be
organized/presented to our users. But allowing access to the online
resources will guarantee that we are up-to-date.


The extension framework should be able to guarantee that an extension is 
up-to-date, you know...



Kind regards, Joost

Re: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

2012-09-10 Thread Joost Andrae


Hi,

have a look here:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration
Someone already provided an integration for NB 7.1 as Alpha build. 
Perhaps you'll get it running in NB 7.2


Am 10.09.2012 10:30, schrieb Shukla, Mangesh:

Hi ,
I am new to this forum and OpenOffice development as well.
I would like to know by when the Netbeans 7.2 plugin for OpenOffice.org3.4.0, 
will be available.
I am trying to run the SDK samples and cant' see the OpenOffice.org3.4 plugin 
in the Update center for Netbeans7.2. Any help on getting this will be highly 
appreciated.



Kind regards, Joost

RE: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

2012-09-10 Thread Shukla, Mangesh

Hi Carl,
   Thanks for the update.

Regards
Mangesh


-Original Message-
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:c...@codebuilders.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:06 PM
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

Hi,

I have been working on it when I have a chance.

On 09/10/2012 06:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 9/10/12 10:30 AM, Shukla, Mangesh wrote:
>> Hi ,
>> I am new to this forum and OpenOffice development as well.
>> I would like to know by when the Netbeans 7.2 plugin for 
>> OpenOffice.org3.4.0, will be available.
>> I am trying to run the SDK samples and cant' see the OpenOffice.org3.4 
>> plugin in the Update center for Netbeans7.2. Any help on getting this will 
>> be highly appreciated.
>
> there is work ongoing on the plugin and probably Carl can give an 
> update about the current status. Once this update work is done we can 
> try to reach out to the NetBeans guys to make the plugin again 
> available via their update center.
>
> Juergen
>

See this page:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration

There is working alpha version linked to there.

I have a newer version I can update this evening US EST.

I'll post back on this thread when I've uploaded it.

@Juergen
After I've uploaded it. I thought I would tag it v3.0.0 What is the procedure 
for this? Review first? lazy consensus?

Best regards,
Carl

Re: [Call-For-Review]Two shape geometry bugs

Hi, Regina,
Thanks for the good catch. I agree with you. See my comments in bugzilla.

Regards,
Jianyuan

2012/9/10 Regina Henschel 

> Jianyuan Li schrieb:
>
>  Hi, all,
>>
>> I have fixes for 2 shape geometry bugs. Can anyone help review? More
>> details can be found in bugzilla comments. Thanks.
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120848
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120870
>>
>>
> I'm not sure about issue 120870. The current definition leads to three
> separate fillings and to breaking up into three polygons. Is that behavior
> preserved?
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>

Re: Clipart library

On 10 September 2012 12:26, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
> On 9/10/12 12:39 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
>> On 10 September 2012 08:01, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>>> 2012/9/10 Jürgen Schmidt 
>>>
 On 9/9/12 11:36 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 3 September 2012 02:19, Kevin Grignon 
 wrote:
>> KG03 - see comments inline
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Ian Lynch  wrote:
>>
>>> On 31 August 2012 02:20, Kevin Grignon 
 wrote:
 KG02 -see comments inline.

 On Friday, August 31, 2012 , Ian Lynch
 wrote:

> On 30 August 2012 09:57, Kevin Grignon >>> >
> wrote:
>> KG01 - see comments inline.
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ian Lynch >>> >
> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm organising the Open clipart library into categories. We could
 use
>>> this then as a useful resource to complement AOO.
>>
>> KG01 - This adds a lot of value. Ideally we could aim to align the
> information architecture for the categorization. This would allow
 users to
> leverage the existing knowledge when browse in each library.
>>
>>> Any thoughts about
>>> the best way to implement making the categorised library available
 to
>>> the community?
>>
>> KG01 - it would be great to explore ways to make the open clip art
 more
> accessible/discoverable within AoO clipart view. Some social
 integration
> could enable pulling clipart into editors, or pushing an image from
 an
> editor to the open library.
>>
>> While we could create a plug-in, it would be a better unified ux if
 we
> integrate open clip art and local clipart in one UI.
>
> At present I'm just going through all the folders from
 OpenClipart.org
> and putting them into arbitrary folders labelled Animals, People,
> Transport, Food etc. This is because each contributor simply puts
> often unconnected files in a folder so images on OpenClipart.org are
> grouped by author not type (unless I'm missiong something :-) ).
 While
> there are some aggregations and an on-line indexing system on the
> OpenClipart.org site I haven't found it particularly easy to find
> things. It seems easier to me to have a folder called eg Animals
  with
> sub folders for birds, insects, mammals, perhaps with subdivisions of
> cartoon and realistic in each. There are png and svg versions of each
> image. Ideally we'll get import of svg to AOO so that these can be
> edited or resaved in odg or odg will develop to be fully svg
 compliant
> but I guess that is further down the development road. Once we have
> the categories established they could be embedded in the AOO gallery
> system and anyone wanting to could add to the library to complement
> missing items. Probably helpful for the OpenClipArt project too.
 There
> really are masses of images to sort through but a lot of duplicates -
> millions of pencils and pens :-) This is why a visual search of a
> folder called pens is probably going to be more successful than
 trying
> to search for key words.


 KG02 - yes, it would be great to clean this up

>
> So at the moment I propose to plough on sorting the images and
> hopefully when they are done someone (perhaps you kevin :-) ) Who
> knows more about how the UX can work with the imagescan help make it
> easy to integrate into the gallery.


 KG02 - This is an interesting consideration.  When we think about
 social,
 we need to apply the social integration to the context of office
 productivity.  I feel that social clip art is a great example of
 future
 capabilities.

 KG02 - I will include this scenario in the social design explorations.
>>>
>>> Once I have finished first iteration of sorting I'll send you the
>>> details so you can see what we have.
>>>
>> KG03 - Ian, great job. Ya, reach out to me when your further along. In
 the interim, I'll capture a clipart social scenario.
>
> I have put the sorted clip art in a zip file in my public drop box folder
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1115462/casource.zip
>
> Snag is it is 360 meg! So not sure what is the best approach for
> dealing with it. Could probably do with further sorting but at least
> there is a good start so anyone could refine it to their particular
> needs much more quickly than starting from scratch.

 I think we probably don't want bundle it with AOO directly. I can think
 of an extended gallery implementation where it is possible to hook
 online galleries as well.

>>>
>>

Re: [Call-For-Review]Two shape geometry bugs

2012-09-10 Thread Regina Henschel


Jianyuan Li schrieb:

Hi, all,

I have fixes for 2 shape geometry bugs. Can anyone help review? More
details can be found in bugzilla comments. Thanks.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120848
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120870



I'm not sure about issue 120870. The current definition leads to three 
separate fillings and to breaking up into three polygons. Is that 
behavior preserved?


Kind regards
Regina

Re: [DL][Website] First draft of the new DL scripting

On 9/10/12 12:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> ...///source/
>> ...///binaries//
>> ...///binaries/SDK/
>> Where PROJECT_NAME is something like "ooo" or "aoo" or "openoffice".
> 
> Good. I'd use "openoffice" as project name, for clarity. It's longer
> than alternatives but we already got rid of "localized", "stable" and so
> on.
> 

I would be fine with any name but I assume that we will discuss a final
name during a potential graduation. And it is only an abbreviation in
this context. Not really visible or important in this context to many
people.

Juergen

Re: Clipart library

On 9/10/12 12:39 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 10 September 2012 08:01, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>> 2012/9/10 Jürgen Schmidt 
>>
>>> On 9/9/12 11:36 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
 On 3 September 2012 02:19, Kevin Grignon 
>>> wrote:
> KG03 - see comments inline
>
> On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Ian Lynch  wrote:
>
>> On 31 August 2012 02:20, Kevin Grignon 
>>> wrote:
>>> KG02 -see comments inline.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2012 , Ian Lynch
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 30 August 2012 09:57, Kevin Grignon >> >
 wrote:
> KG01 - see comments inline.
>
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ian Lynch >> >
 wrote:
>
>> I'm organising the Open clipart library into categories. We could
>>> use
>> this then as a useful resource to complement AOO.
>
> KG01 - This adds a lot of value. Ideally we could aim to align the
 information architecture for the categorization. This would allow
>>> users to
 leverage the existing knowledge when browse in each library.
>
>> Any thoughts about
>> the best way to implement making the categorised library available
>>> to
>> the community?
>
> KG01 - it would be great to explore ways to make the open clip art
>>> more
 accessible/discoverable within AoO clipart view. Some social
>>> integration
 could enable pulling clipart into editors, or pushing an image from
>>> an
 editor to the open library.
>
> While we could create a plug-in, it would be a better unified ux if
>>> we
 integrate open clip art and local clipart in one UI.

 At present I'm just going through all the folders from
>>> OpenClipart.org
 and putting them into arbitrary folders labelled Animals, People,
 Transport, Food etc. This is because each contributor simply puts
 often unconnected files in a folder so images on OpenClipart.org are
 grouped by author not type (unless I'm missiong something :-) ).
>>> While
 there are some aggregations and an on-line indexing system on the
 OpenClipart.org site I haven't found it particularly easy to find
 things. It seems easier to me to have a folder called eg Animals
>>>  with
 sub folders for birds, insects, mammals, perhaps with subdivisions of
 cartoon and realistic in each. There are png and svg versions of each
 image. Ideally we'll get import of svg to AOO so that these can be
 edited or resaved in odg or odg will develop to be fully svg
>>> compliant
 but I guess that is further down the development road. Once we have
 the categories established they could be embedded in the AOO gallery
 system and anyone wanting to could add to the library to complement
 missing items. Probably helpful for the OpenClipArt project too.
>>> There
 really are masses of images to sort through but a lot of duplicates -
 millions of pencils and pens :-) This is why a visual search of a
 folder called pens is probably going to be more successful than
>>> trying
 to search for key words.
>>>
>>>
>>> KG02 - yes, it would be great to clean this up
>>>

 So at the moment I propose to plough on sorting the images and
 hopefully when they are done someone (perhaps you kevin :-) ) Who
 knows more about how the UX can work with the imagescan help make it
 easy to integrate into the gallery.
>>>
>>>
>>> KG02 - This is an interesting consideration.  When we think about
>>> social,
>>> we need to apply the social integration to the context of office
>>> productivity.  I feel that social clip art is a great example of
>>> future
>>> capabilities.
>>>
>>> KG02 - I will include this scenario in the social design explorations.
>>
>> Once I have finished first iteration of sorting I'll send you the
>> details so you can see what we have.
>>
> KG03 - Ian, great job. Ya, reach out to me when your further along. In
>>> the interim, I'll capture a clipart social scenario.

 I have put the sorted clip art in a zip file in my public drop box folder

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1115462/casource.zip

 Snag is it is 360 meg! So not sure what is the best approach for
 dealing with it. Could probably do with further sorting but at least
 there is a good start so anyone could refine it to their particular
 needs much more quickly than starting from scratch.
>>>
>>> I think we probably don't want bundle it with AOO directly. I can think
>>> of an extended gallery implementation where it is possible to hook
>>> online galleries as well.
>>>
>>
>> +1 (for Clipart as well as Template). AOO should provide a kind of
>> capability (with extensions) to easily search or browse the online
>> resources. It is another persp

Re: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

On 9/10/12 12:35 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been working on it when I have a chance.
> 
> On 09/10/2012 06:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 9/10/12 10:30 AM, Shukla, Mangesh wrote:
>>> Hi ,
>>> I am new to this forum and OpenOffice development as well.
>>> I would like to know by when the Netbeans 7.2 plugin for
>>> OpenOffice.org3.4.0, will be available.
>>> I am trying to run the SDK samples and cant' see the
>>> OpenOffice.org3.4 plugin in the Update center for Netbeans7.2. Any
>>> help on getting this will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> there is work ongoing on the plugin and probably Carl can give an update
>> about the current status. Once this update work is done we can try to
>> reach out to the NetBeans guys to make the plugin again available via
>> their update center.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
> 
> See this page:
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration
> 
> There is working alpha version linked to there.
> 
> I have a newer version I can update this evening US EST.
> 
> I'll post back on this thread when I've uploaded it.
> 
> @Juergen
> After I've uploaded it. I thought I would tag it v3.0.0
> What is the procedure for this? Review first? lazy consensus?

I would keep the name until the work is finished and then we have to
review how we can make a release out of it. There is probably more work
to do to check the dependencies etc.

We have to provide a source release and can provide the binary only for
convenience.

I haven't thought in detailed about a release of the plugin yet. No time
so far. But the requirements are documented and we should discuss
potential questions here on the list.

Juergen


> 
> Best regards,
> Carl
>

Re: [DL][Website] First draft of the new DL scripting

2012-09-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

...///source/
...///binaries//
...///binaries/SDK/
Where PROJECT_NAME is something like "ooo" or "aoo" or "openoffice".


Good. I'd use "openoffice" as project name, for clarity. It's longer 
than alternatives but we already got rid of "localized", "stable" and so on.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Clipart library

On 10 September 2012 08:01, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
> 2012/9/10 Jürgen Schmidt 
>
>> On 9/9/12 11:36 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
>> > On 3 September 2012 02:19, Kevin Grignon 
>> wrote:
>> >> KG03 - see comments inline
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Ian Lynch  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 31 August 2012 02:20, Kevin Grignon 
>> wrote:
>>  KG02 -see comments inline.
>> 
>>  On Friday, August 31, 2012 , Ian Lynch
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > On 30 August 2012 09:57, Kevin Grignon > >
>> > wrote:
>> >> KG01 - see comments inline.
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ian Lynch > >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'm organising the Open clipart library into categories. We could
>> use
>> >>> this then as a useful resource to complement AOO.
>> >>
>> >> KG01 - This adds a lot of value. Ideally we could aim to align the
>> > information architecture for the categorization. This would allow
>> users to
>> > leverage the existing knowledge when browse in each library.
>> >>
>> >>> Any thoughts about
>> >>> the best way to implement making the categorised library available
>> to
>> >>> the community?
>> >>
>> >> KG01 - it would be great to explore ways to make the open clip art
>> more
>> > accessible/discoverable within AoO clipart view. Some social
>> integration
>> > could enable pulling clipart into editors, or pushing an image from
>> an
>> > editor to the open library.
>> >>
>> >> While we could create a plug-in, it would be a better unified ux if
>> we
>> > integrate open clip art and local clipart in one UI.
>> >
>> > At present I'm just going through all the folders from
>> OpenClipart.org
>> > and putting them into arbitrary folders labelled Animals, People,
>> > Transport, Food etc. This is because each contributor simply puts
>> > often unconnected files in a folder so images on OpenClipart.org are
>> > grouped by author not type (unless I'm missiong something :-) ).
>> While
>> > there are some aggregations and an on-line indexing system on the
>> > OpenClipart.org site I haven't found it particularly easy to find
>> > things. It seems easier to me to have a folder called eg Animals
>>  with
>> > sub folders for birds, insects, mammals, perhaps with subdivisions of
>> > cartoon and realistic in each. There are png and svg versions of each
>> > image. Ideally we'll get import of svg to AOO so that these can be
>> > edited or resaved in odg or odg will develop to be fully svg
>> compliant
>> > but I guess that is further down the development road. Once we have
>> > the categories established they could be embedded in the AOO gallery
>> > system and anyone wanting to could add to the library to complement
>> > missing items. Probably helpful for the OpenClipArt project too.
>> There
>> > really are masses of images to sort through but a lot of duplicates -
>> > millions of pencils and pens :-) This is why a visual search of a
>> > folder called pens is probably going to be more successful than
>> trying
>> > to search for key words.
>> 
>> 
>>  KG02 - yes, it would be great to clean this up
>> 
>> >
>> > So at the moment I propose to plough on sorting the images and
>> > hopefully when they are done someone (perhaps you kevin :-) ) Who
>> > knows more about how the UX can work with the imagescan help make it
>> > easy to integrate into the gallery.
>> 
>> 
>>  KG02 - This is an interesting consideration.  When we think about
>> social,
>>  we need to apply the social integration to the context of office
>>  productivity.  I feel that social clip art is a great example of
>> future
>>  capabilities.
>> 
>>  KG02 - I will include this scenario in the social design explorations.
>> >>>
>> >>> Once I have finished first iteration of sorting I'll send you the
>> >>> details so you can see what we have.
>> >>>
>> >> KG03 - Ian, great job. Ya, reach out to me when your further along. In
>> the interim, I'll capture a clipart social scenario.
>> >
>> > I have put the sorted clip art in a zip file in my public drop box folder
>> >
>> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1115462/casource.zip
>> >
>> > Snag is it is 360 meg! So not sure what is the best approach for
>> > dealing with it. Could probably do with further sorting but at least
>> > there is a good start so anyone could refine it to their particular
>> > needs much more quickly than starting from scratch.
>>
>> I think we probably don't want bundle it with AOO directly. I can think
>> of an extended gallery implementation where it is possible to hook
>> online galleries as well.
>>
>
> +1 (for Clipart as well as Template). AOO should provide a kind of
> capability (with extensions) to easily search or browse the online
> resources. It is another perspective of Cloud/Social Integration value.
>
> - Simon
>
>
>>
>> Ok in cas

Re: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

2012-09-10 Thread Carl Marcum


Hi,

I have been working on it when I have a chance.

On 09/10/2012 06:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 9/10/12 10:30 AM, Shukla, Mangesh wrote:

Hi ,
I am new to this forum and OpenOffice development as well.
I would like to know by when the Netbeans 7.2 plugin for OpenOffice.org3.4.0, 
will be available.
I am trying to run the SDK samples and cant' see the OpenOffice.org3.4 plugin 
in the Update center for Netbeans7.2. Any help on getting this will be highly 
appreciated.


there is work ongoing on the plugin and probably Carl can give an update
about the current status. Once this update work is done we can try to
reach out to the NetBeans guys to make the plugin again available via
their update center.

Juergen



See this page:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration

There is working alpha version linked to there.

I have a newer version I can update this evening US EST.

I'll post back on this thread when I've uploaded it.

@Juergen
After I've uploaded it. I thought I would tag it v3.0.0
What is the procedure for this? Review first? lazy consensus?

Best regards,
Carl

Re: Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

On 9/10/12 10:30 AM, Shukla, Mangesh wrote:
> Hi ,
>I am new to this forum and OpenOffice development as well.
> I would like to know by when the Netbeans 7.2 plugin for OpenOffice.org3.4.0, 
> will be available.
> I am trying to run the SDK samples and cant' see the OpenOffice.org3.4 plugin 
> in the Update center for Netbeans7.2. Any help on getting this will be highly 
> appreciated.

there is work ongoing on the plugin and probably Carl can give an update
about the current status. Once this update work is done we can try to
reach out to the NetBeans guys to make the plugin again available via
their update center.

Juergen

Re: [DL][Website] First draft of the new DL scripting

On 9/6/12 11:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 09/06/2012 01:33 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>
>> On 09/02/2012 03:18 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/02/2012 08:02 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Hi all,

 I was busy at the weekend to clean-up the DL scripting.

 The new webpages are accessible here (as long as they are not
 published):

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/index.html
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/other.html

 Some notes before you start with checking out:

 1.
 The current focus is on reducing complexity, better simplification and
 more automatism. Not the design and layout. This is nearly the same.

 2.
 It's normal that not all links will work as it's only a part of the
 download area. It depends on the link itself if it's not yet working or
 really broken. ;-)

 3.
 When you find errors and want to report them please make sure to browse
 to the following webpage to help me with some debug data:

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/new/analyze.html

 Next big step is to implement the new directory structure on the
 mirrors.

 Thanks in advance for your comments.

 Marcus
>>>
>>> VERY good! I am looking at changes in svn and I can see MUCH
>>> improvement. I will try to help with suggestions in the coming week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ...more
>>
>> You are making very good progress and I hesitate to just make changes
>> without discussion.
>>
>> What do you suggest for this?? Additional sections on the wiki page??
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Improvements+for+the+download+webpages
>>
> 
> Hm, I've already created a new table in the Wiki to document the
> separating the general improvements from the one towards the new mirror
> structure.
> 
> But I think this is now enough. Otherwise the overview is really gone.
> 
>> attachment of pertinent files to the wiki page with comments?
> 
> When the things are discussed and done then these data normally remains
> - at least this is my impression from other Wiki pages. Then the is also
> gone. Besides this I think it becomes very fast a real clutch.
> 
> Let's see if we can make some progress here on the ML. When there is
> something valuable, then we can take it over to the Wiki page. So, I
> would suggest to create new threads with appropriate tags like "[DL
> scripting][SCHEMA] ..."
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Marcus
> 

I think we can finalize the future directory structure #part 2 on the
wiki page.

Current proposal:
.../ooo//source/
.../ooo//bin//
.../ooo//bin/SDK/

When I remember there were some concerns regarding "bin". And I would
keep the project name open or flexible assuming a change in favor of "aoo".

...///source/
...///binaries//
...///binaries/SDK/

Where PROJECT_NAME is something like "ooo" or "aoo" or "openoffice". I
would say we need no voting for this and need further discussion only if
somebody see some problems with the new proposed structure.

Juergen

Re: [Call For Review] Review the solution of i120759

2012-09-10 Thread chengjh

I have a look at the code change.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Fan Zheng  wrote:

> Hi, Community:
>
> As the fix work of issue 120759 "[From Symphony]Bookmark value changed when
> opening the doc file " in BugZilla is already done, now I am expecting any
> volunteer for taking the code review work of it. Thanks so much!
>
> Here is the link:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120759
>
>
> your ZhengFan
>



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[Call For UI Review] About the attribute list level of paragraph style

2012-09-10 Thread Huaidong Qiu

Hi all,

I need some advice from the UI expert about the list
level attribute of Numbering Enhancement feature.

I need a UI to link a numbering level of a list style to a paragraph style.
 I want add a list box control into the "Options" tab page of the
"Numbering style" dialog.

The steps to open this tab page are:

1. New a writer document.
2. press F11 open the "Style and Formatting" dialog.
3. choose the "list style" tab page
4. open context menu by left click on the tab page, select "new..." menu
item
5. select the "Options" tab page of the "Numbering style" dialog.

Here is a changed UI screen shot, I put this picture into the wiki page for
this feature

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Listlevel.png

here is the wiki page for the Numbering Enhancement feature

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/NumberingEnhancementforMSInteroperability

Thanks

[user documentation] Requirements for a documentation project

2012-09-10 Thread Guy Waterval

Hi all,

As I have more free time until June 2013, I plan to continue writing a user
documentation for OOoLight (Educoo.org). As the two products AOO et
OOoLight are, from an end user point of view of course, relatively similar
to use, my goal is to try to interfacing properly with the AOO project, to
allow an easy reuse of some parts by people here who could be interested to
create a specific AOO documentation project.
So, I will work with the Alv2 licence and I have signed the CLA in june. Is
it enough or are there more requirements?

Regards
-- 
gw

Netbeans integration with OpenOffice.org3.4.0

2012-09-10 Thread Shukla, Mangesh

Hi ,
   I am new to this forum and OpenOffice development as well.
I would like to know by when the Netbeans 7.2 plugin for OpenOffice.org3.4.0, 
will be available.
I am trying to run the SDK samples and cant' see the OpenOffice.org3.4 plugin 
in the Update center for Netbeans7.2. Any help on getting this will be highly 
appreciated.

Thanking you in advance.

Mangesh
OpenOffice3.4.0, Win7 x64.

[Call-For-Review]Bug 119558 - [From Symphony] Table rows get heighter when opening a .docx file with AOO 3.4

2012-09-10 Thread shzh zhao

hi,

I have fixed a bug about table row height in SW. Can anyone help review it?
More details can be found in bugzilla comments.
Thanks.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119558
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[Call-For-Review]Two shape geometry bugs

Hi, all,

I have fixes for 2 shape geometry bugs. Can anyone help review? More
details can be found in bugzilla comments. Thanks.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120848
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120870



Regards,
Jianyuan

Re: [EXTENSION] LanguageTool in AOO

On 9/9/12 3:51 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> RGB ES wrote:
>> 2012/9/9 Marco A.G.Pinto
>>> LanguageTool extension ( http://www.languagetool.org ) no longer freezes
>>> on AOO 3.4.1 .
>>> Could it be added as default to the next release?
>> IMO, it is not that easy: LT is LGPL, which is not compatible with the
>> Apache license. Being a "real software" I don't think the "mere
>> aggregation" argument is valid here, as it was for dictionaries.
> 
> In itself, the "mere aggregation" concept, as defined by the GPL (and
> LGPL) holds in exactly the same way for dictionaries and software.
> 
> But indeed LEGAL-117 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117
> concerns only dictionaries, so we have asked (and obtained) legal
> approval from Apache Legal for dictionaries only.
> 
> That said, LanguageTool depends on Java too, so it's unlikely that we
> will want to include it in OpenOffice by default. But it's very
> convenient to download it from
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/languagetool and a link to
> the Extensions website is already shown on the download page.

I don't think that Java would prevent us from including an extension in
the office.

I think it's more the general question what we want include and what
not? Do we have control over the source code or not? I think we should
keep it minimal and allows users to decide themselves.

Especially when we don't have control over the source code. The license
in this case is a further problem and we can easy avoid it by simply not
bundling it by default.

But as Andrea pointed out we can think about ways how we can help users
to find useful enhancements for the office that are available as
extension or on another way.

Just my 2 ct's

Juergen

Re: [QA Report] The TOC fidelity enhancement in MSO Word 2003 binary format importing/exporting

2012-09-10 Thread chengjh

Excellent report,let's confirm whether the two defects are really related
to the code change.If yes,it is better to solve them now.To
the  non-feature defects,we will make plan according to their priority in
the future.Thanks.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:51 PM, dongjun zong  wrote:

> Xiao Ting,
> Thanks very much for the detail report.
>
> 2012/9/10 Xiao Ting Xiao 
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Here is the report of TOC fidelity enhancement  in MSO Word 2003 binary
> > format importing/exporting.
> >
> > Please review.
> >
> > 1. Total test case number: 24
> > 2. Total execution number: 48
> > 3. Testing platforms
> >- SuSE Linux 64-bit
> >- Windows XP
> >- Ubuntu Linux 32-bit
> >- Windows 7
> >- MacOS X
> >- Redhat Linux 32-bit
> > 4. Pass rate: 92%
> > 5. Bug analysis
> >
> >Totally 10 bugs were opened. 2 of them maybe feature related, others
> can
> > be reproduced in build AOO 341 1372282, so they are not feature related
> > bug.
> >
> >Feature related bugs:
> >*Bug 120843* 
> > - [writer001]
> > indent between number and title in TOC entry becomes small after update
> TOC
> >*Bug 120845* 
> > - [writer001]
> > some TOC entry's styles lost after update TOC when open doc in AOO
> >
> >Non-feature bugs:
> >*Bug 120838*  -
> > TOC's
> > title in doc file created via MS Word 2010 was collected into TOC entry
> > after update
> >*Bug 120841*  -
> > TOC's
> > spacing between following content increased a lot after update when open
> > doc file created via previous OpenOffice
> >*Bug 120842*  -
> > TOC's
> > position changed after export doc created by OpenOffice 1.1 to another
> doc
> > and open via MS Word 2003
> >*Bug 120846*  -
> > indent
> > between bullet and title in TOC entry becomes larger when open doc in AOO
> > and update TOC
> >*Bug 120774* 
> > - Comment
> > line with heading style was collected into TOC when open doc file in AOO
> > and update TOC
> >*Bug 120775*  -
> > Tab
> > stop appeared after update TOC when open doc in AOO
> >*Bug 120777* 
> > - paragraph's
> > outline level lost after open doc with TOC in AOO
> >*Bug 120778* 
> > - paragraph's
> > outline level lost after export doc to doc in AOO
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Xiao ting Xiao
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks!
> Regards,
> DongJun Zong
>



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Re: Clipart library