Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-07 Thread JP Rosevear
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:58 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote: 
 Hello,
 
 On Mar 5 13:09 JP Rosevear wrote (shortened):
  On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 15:30 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:
   
   What about
   http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell
   Intrinsic design of CUPS for printing in the network
   
   What is the original end-user requirement behind?
  
  The original requirement is two fold
  
  1) Ease of use for end users
  
  It works perfectly fine on Windows XP and OS X to browse network
  printers and print to one without requiring admin privileges.
 
 Your info is too terse for me.
 I still do not understand the end-user's situation.
 Please do not misunderstand me - I don't want to do nitpicking.
 But I need to understand the whole picture from the end-user's point
 of view - otherwise whatever nice-looking implementation may not
 solve the actual end-user problem.

The situtation is the end user doesn't want to type in a password to do
simple operations.

 What do you mean with browse network printers here?
 Browse the raw printers or browse associated SMB shares
 (or whatever kind of associated print queues)?

Adding an SMB shared printer is the specific case I had in mind, but
other types of network printers too if applicable

 Did you read
 http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell
 Intrinsic design of CUPS for printing in the network?
 When there is a CUPS server, there is _nothing_ to be set up
 at all on the client systems, see
 http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell
 Configuration of the clients
 
 Start cupsd.
 ...
 Under normal circumstances, you should not configure
 anything else, especially
 * no local queues on clients and
 * no changes in the default settings for cupsd on clients. 
 
 
 Why do you want to implement Windows-stlye printing
 when we use CUPS on Linux?

Because its what most users expect and want, even many linux ones.

 Or is there a special end-user environment why we need
 to do Windows-stlye printing even with CUPS on Linux?
 
 Perhaps you are talking about a user with a Linux laptop
 or Linux workstation in a Windows-only environment?

Not just in these specific cases, I'm thinking home users in general. 
 
  2) Restricting root access for admins
  
  Admins want to allow straightforward operations like changing the
  wireless network or adding a printer without giving out the full root
  password (which allows things like installing new packages)
 
 Why cannot the admin set up appropriate stuff in cupsd.conf
 so that whatever users on whatever hosts are allowed to do
 whatever he likes?
 
 Why should we implement something anew when from my point of view
 everything is (and was) already implemented in CUPS?
 
 Since CUPS 1.2 there are even fine-grained policies, see
 http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/ref-cupsd-conf.html
 Policy and Limit (Policy)

Ah, this is nice, I wasn't aware there was a policy system in 1.2,
thanks for pointing this out.

 From my point of view all we may need is a nice GUI to set up
 those policies in cupsd.conf - e.g. an enhancement of the CUPS
 web-interface, see on a CUPS 1.2 system
 http://localhost:631/admin
 Server

Yes, quite possibly with the policy system above.  I might rather see a
single yast module that is a starting point for various configurations
of this type of options, ie something like:

[ ] Primary user can mount removable media
[ ] All users can mount removable media
[ ] Primary user can add and remove printers
[ ] All users can add and remove printers
[ ] Primary user can install, update and remove software
[  ] All users can install, update and remove software

Where the primary user is the first user you create. Ideally we'd be
able to keep this hidden and have a 'Home User' vs 'Traditional Unix
Permissions' option or something.  (I'm also not sure this is actually a
Yast module, but it will do for now as an example).  This would lead
into a nice system for things like basic parental controls.

Robert, you had some ideas around this right?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-07 Thread Johannes Meixner

Hello,

On Mar 7 10:30 JP Rosevear wrote (shortened):
 On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:58 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote: 
  Your info is too terse for me.
  I still do not understand the end-user's situation.
  Please do not misunderstand me - I don't want to do nitpicking.
  But I need to understand the whole picture from the end-user's point
  of view - otherwise whatever nice-looking implementation may not
  solve the actual end-user problem.
 
 The situtation is the end user doesn't want to type in a password
 to do simple operations.

Frommy point of viwe it seems from mail to mail
you change the issue (it started with USB printers,
became network printers, now it is about typing passwords)
and it seems you still don't tell the whole story.


  Why do you want to implement Windows-stlye printing
  when we use CUPS on Linux?
 
 Because its what most users expect and want, even many linux ones.

I am afraid but it seems now we are at a dead end.


Kind Regards
Johannes Meixner
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-07 Thread JP Rosevear
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 16:39 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Mar 7 10:30 JP Rosevear wrote (shortened):
  On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:58 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote: 
   Your info is too terse for me.
   I still do not understand the end-user's situation.
   Please do not misunderstand me - I don't want to do nitpicking.
   But I need to understand the whole picture from the end-user's point
   of view - otherwise whatever nice-looking implementation may not
   solve the actual end-user problem.
  
  The situtation is the end user doesn't want to type in a password
  to do simple operations.
 
 Frommy point of viwe it seems from mail to mail
 you change the issue (it started with USB printers,
 became network printers, now it is about typing passwords)
 and it seems you still don't tell the whole story.

No, the user should not need root to include any printers, I just didn't
explicitly call out network printers to begin with and I should have.

 
   Why do you want to implement Windows-stlye printing
   when we use CUPS on Linux?
  
  Because its what most users expect and want, even many linux ones.
 
 I am afraid but it seems now we are at a dead end.

Why exactly are we at a dead end?  We agreed in the dist meeting not
needing root to configure a printer was a valid use case.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-07 Thread Robert Love
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 16:39 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:

 Frommy point of viwe it seems from mail to mail
 you change the issue (it started with USB printers,
 became network printers, now it is about typing passwords)
 and it seems you still don't tell the whole story.

There are several benefits to changing the backend, I grant, but the
primary goal here is to not require root to do basic printer
manipulation last.

The use case is that a standard use should (optionally) be able to
manage his printers without requiring the administrator.

I don't think we should be at a dead end! :)

Robert


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-07 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:46:37AM -0500, JP Rosevear wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 16:39 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:
  Hello,
  
  On Mar 7 10:30 JP Rosevear wrote (shortened):
   On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:58 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote: 
Your info is too terse for me.
I still do not understand the end-user's situation.
Please do not misunderstand me - I don't want to do nitpicking.
But I need to understand the whole picture from the end-user's point
of view - otherwise whatever nice-looking implementation may not
solve the actual end-user problem.
   
   The situtation is the end user doesn't want to type in a password
   to do simple operations.
  
  Frommy point of viwe it seems from mail to mail
  you change the issue (it started with USB printers,
  became network printers, now it is about typing passwords)
  and it seems you still don't tell the whole story.
 
 No, the user should not need root to include any printers, I just didn't
 explicitly call out network printers to begin with and I should have.
 
  
Why do you want to implement Windows-stlye printing
when we use CUPS on Linux?
   
   Because its what most users expect and want, even many linux ones.
  
  I am afraid but it seems now we are at a dead end.
 
 Why exactly are we at a dead end?  We agreed in the dist meeting not
 needing root to configure a printer was a valid use case.

Correct.

We also agreed on:

- Either do full automatic configuration on plugin / detection,
  if necessary driven by a database of known good printer - configuration
  mappings
or:
- Ask for the root password.

Any interaction channel between desktop user and higher privileged
processes should be protected by the root password.

Ciao, Marcus
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[opensuse] Xfce 4.4 disaster with OpenSuSE-factory

2007-03-07 Thread Horst G. Burkhardt III
Hi. I posted this a while ago and got no reply.

There is a _huge_ problem with the Xfce packages in -factory.

Computing transaction...

error: Can't install [EMAIL PROTECTED]: no package 
provides libxfcegui4-devel = 4.3 

^^ that is the message i get when trying to install xfce 4.4 (with devels) 
using smart.

Before you flame me, _yes_ I understand the situation, _no_ it's not 
possible for me to use bugzilla, _yes_ i do _need_ xfce _and_ its devel 
packages.

Any help would be really appreciated. I'm told the missing package would 
be something like `xfcegui4-devel' - if the situation has since been 
rectified please let me know. Also, any workarounds would be appreciated.

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Re: [opensuse] Why other Boot Options

2007-03-07 Thread Alexander Osthof
 Can somebody shed some light on the new options that are now in my boot
 menu?
 I have the normal such as:
 OpenSuse 10.2
 OpenSuse Fail-Safe 10.2
 but now I have two other options which read:
 Opensuse 10.2 (XEN)
 Kernel-2.6.18.2-34-bigsmp

 What are these new options and where did they come from?

 Thanks guys
 Chris

 OH THanks Ken for that update fix!! it worked great!

Another thing came into my mind: can you please post your /boot/grub/menu.lst 
(or /etc/lilo.conf -- in case you use lilo)?

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Re: [opensuse] Xfce 4.4 disaster with OpenSuSE-factory

2007-03-07 Thread Goksin Akdeniz
Hi there,

 Any help would be really appreciated. I'm told the missing package would
 be something like `xfcegui4-devel' - if the situation has since been
 rectified please let me know. Also, any workarounds would be appreciated.

I installed xfce using YAST. YAST Software Managment module solved the problem 
due to earlier versions are included in the CD/DVD and Packman rpos etc.

I selected all the packages I needed and installed them via YAST. After all is 
installed I run rug (Novell-zenworks cli tool) and checked any updates are 
available. If there are any rug will install them. 

I run smart but sometimes YAST fixex all. I hope it works for you.
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Re: Notebook (ACPI) (Was: Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?)

2007-03-07 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Tue, March 6, 2007 18:56, David Brodbeck wrote:
 ACPI is definitely a mixed bag.  I don't think I've ever seen a system
 where it worked completely right, unlike APM, which was pretty mature.
Worked like a bomb on my Compaq Armada m700 - too bad the notebook could
only take 512mb memory, otherwise I would still have had it.

Hans

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Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl

2007-03-07 Thread Hans van der Merwe

On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 16:30 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote:
 On Mar 05, 07 16:43:13 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
  I use AIGLX in nVidia driver - works perfectly - movies play on rotated
  cube - folding maxed windows etc.
 
 You are NOT using AIGLX in the NVIDIA driver - NVIDIA doesn't use AIGLX.
 
 NVIDIA had accelerated indirect rendering (guess what AIGLX stands for)
 almost since day one (say: 5 years ago or more). The AIGLX framework is
 *only* used by open source drivers as we speak.
 
 NVIDIA has implemented EXT_pixmap_from_texture as well, which enables
 compiz - just like the AIGLX and Xgl do as well.
 
 The NVIDIA implementation obviously works very well together with OpenGL
 and XVideo - though there are still some rough edges.
 
 
 Can everybody please stop distributing this FUD any further? Wrong
 statements don't get right by repeating them over and over...
 
 Matthias
 

Sorry, me not using compiz and xgl - computer works.





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Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl

2007-03-07 Thread Hans van der Merwe

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 16:58 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote:
 On Mar 05, 07 21:02:07 +0100, Tom Burt wrote:
  Does this mean that the page http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl is also incorrect 
  in 
  saying:
  
  Beryl with nVidia drivers - no Xgl/AIGLX
  ...This uses nVidia's AIGLX; not Xorg's inbuilt/optional AIGLX...
 
 Well - partially. It just shouldn't be called AIGLX (this sentence is
 explicitly stating that is not the same as AIGLX as Xorg calls it).
 
 Correcting it. Reads now:
 
 Since Xorg 7.x, composite effects can be used without Xgl and simply an
 nVidia card. This uses nVidia's implementation of
 EXT_pixmap_from_texture, not the one from Xorg's inbuilt/optional AIGLX
 or from Xgl.
 
  Well, this page is quite confusing, at least for me. Can someone point to a 
  decent article about the technologies/acronyms?
 
 No, unfortunately. Creating such a page would surely be appreciated.
 
 Matthias
 

So I should not enable AIGLX in Xorg conf file?

ps, my head is sore






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Re: [opensuse] software raid missing a drive??

2007-03-07 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Leen de Braal wrote:
 It is running ok now, as far as i can see, all in sync.
 For me it means that I will have to pay more attention to monitor this
 kind of errors.

Mdadm can help with that. It has a monitor mode which you
can run which will send email if this sort of problem happens.

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Re: Notebook (ACPI) (Was: Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?)

2007-03-07 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:
 ACPI is definitely a mixed bag.  I don't think I've ever seen a system
 where it worked completely right, unlike APM, which was pretty mature.

Most laptops now days need it.  Period.  End of story.
If you don't run it you get stuttering sound, jerky mouse pointers,
dead or flaky usb ports, etc, etc.

Too many devices. So few interrupts. 

For my laptops (sony, dell) its worked very well since
SuSE 8.2.  Before that, it was a crap shoot.

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Re: [opensuse] Is it just me not receiving YUM updates

2007-03-07 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Paul Gardiner wrote:
 Marcus Meissner wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:52:15AM +, Paul Gardiner wrote:
  I run Online Update about twice a week, but I've had
  nothing for maybe almost a month.  Is that to be
  expected? Or is it likely I have something misconfigured?
 
  Just wondering what other's are seeing.
 
  What servers do you have configured?
 
  There have been updates going out.

 Thanks for the reply.

 I've been using http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/update/10.2. 

Run away from that mirror like your hair is on fire.
Its frequently in-operable or out of date or overworked.


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Re: [opensuse] Daylight Savings Time and Suse 9.x and 10.0

2007-03-07 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:52:15AM -0800, James D. Parra wrote:
  Hello,
 
  We are running Suse 9.1 through 9.3 and 10.0 in our shop. What is the
  best method to get DST settings changed to reflect the new DST dates?
 
  Will running online update automatically fix DST? Is there a config file
  that can be changed or viewed to confirm that the system is ready for the
  time change?

 SUSE Linux 9.1, 9.2 are out of support and have likely not got the DST
 fixes.


I used this method on an older suse distro, and it seems to work fine.
I can't be sure it fixes everything, because I haven't tested everything.

http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html






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[opensuse] Keyboard repeat on SELD10

2007-03-07 Thread Gordon Ross
I've just installed SLED10 (plus all the updates) on a DellD820 laptop.
The install went fine. After the install, however, I had a major problem
with the keyboard: Uncontrolled/random repeating of keys. For example,
just typing hello could result in helooo
I've never seeen this on any other SuSE Linux (9.x, 10.x or SLES)

A bit of goggling pointed me to a seemingly similar bug in Ubuntu
(https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/39315
) In that rather long page, numerous potential fixes are suggested. One
that I tried was to remove the Palm sync software. I took this route (I
have no Palm so could see no harm) After forcing YaST to remove the Palm
software without removing the entire KDE system (by package
managers) my laptop seems to be much better, although I'm not convinced
it's 100%.

I had a quick search of the archives but I couldn't find anything
similar for SuSE.

Has anyone else had this, or got any other suggestions for fixes ?

Thanks,

GTG
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Re: [opensuse] Need explanation - question 1

2007-03-07 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Onsdag 07 marts 2007 07:48 skrev Ken Jennings:
 On Friday 2006-12-01 15:52, usr wrote:
  ...
  I gave 10.2  a 3GB partition for /
 
  I also made separate partitions for /tmp, /var, and /home, each 10GB in
  size. I went to update 10.2 and was warned that the / partition is 97%
  full.

 /tmp,  /var, and /home don't necessarily have a lot of stuff in them,
 especially after a fresh install.

 Big directories include /usr and /opt depending on what packages you have
 installed.  Since you did not make separate volumes for those locations
 everything in /usr and /opt is on the same device as root (or / ).

 I have effectively the same setup.  With just about everything worth
 installing (in x86_64) from the 10.2 DVD my root ( / ) occupies quite a bit
 of space:

 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hda5  22G   11G  9.7G  54% /


 (P.S.  Set your computer's clock.)

Hi,

may we see the output of df -h?



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Re: [opensuse] ZMD on 10.2 without warning has gone T**s up ..

2007-03-07 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, peter nikolic wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Don Raboud wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 March 2007 10:47, peter nikolic wrote:
 
  try as root
  rczmd stop
  mv /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db.bak (or something else)
  rczmd restart

In my experience, there is never a need to move that database and
you can just nuke it.  zmd always rebuilds it, and the old one
is clearly broke anyway.  YMMV.



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[opensuse] Hint: ZMD Eating CPU/Disc

2007-03-07 Thread Gordon Ross
I've built several OpenSuSE 10.x machines, and on all of them, I've had
the fun of finding that at startup/login, the ZDM stuff just eats CPU
 disc. On quiet PCs, the CPU fan has to work overtime just to support
the stuff, and on laptops, ZMD just eats disc I/O.

For a while, I just switched off ZMD. Then I decided to be a bit
cleverer. I altered the init script that starts zmd, and changed the
start command line to be /usr/bin/nice -n 19 ${ZMD_BIN} $ZMD_OPTIONS

Viola ! My quiet PC is now quiet, and my laptop now runs well at start
up.

Yes, ZMD takes a lot longer to sort itself out, but it no longer
affects me, and that makes me happy.

All I need to do now, is work out why ZMD takes so flipping long to
install patches regardless of it's NICEness... (come back YaST, all is
forgiven !)

GTG
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Re: [opensuse] Shorewall (was; Re: [opensuse] Martin Glötzl-Koch STOP BOUNCING LIST MAIL)

2007-03-07 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Jon Clausen wrote:
 I'm by no means an iptables authority, and I'll probably never become one
 either.

But Tom Eastep (Shorewall author) is.  The guy is a wizard, and really knows
his stuff.  I've been using shorewall for years on Suse and now also on 
Kubuntu.  

What ever you do READ the QUICK START GUIDES.  It will save
so much time.

Every site I maintain does egress filtering with Shorewall. Especially
for port 25.  
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[opensuse] KDM default session selection (previous session)

2007-03-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Hi,

I use KDE as my main desktop environment.
When updates comes in for various other DE's, I like to check them out, 
by starting a new session from the K-Menu, and in the sessions menu at 
KDM prompt, select the DE in question.


So, for quite some time a have been living with this little issue:
When I select a different session, let's say gnome, and enjoy myself a 
little in there, then end that session, going back to my already running 
KDE session.
I then shut down the PC, and the next time it's booted, it will start 
gnome (if autologin enabled), or gnome will be the selected session in KDM.


Can I change this behavior of KDM, so that it never selects the previous 
session / last used DE, but instead is fixed on e.g. KDE, even though 
the last DE I logged into was something else.


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Re: [opensuse] Hint: ZMD Eating CPU/Disc

2007-03-07 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Onsdag 07 marts 2007 10:44 skrev Gordon Ross:
 I've built several OpenSuSE 10.x machines, and on all of them, I've had
 the fun of finding that at startup/login, the ZDM stuff just eats CPU
  disc. On quiet PCs, the CPU fan has to work overtime just to support
 the stuff, and on laptops, ZMD just eats disc I/O.

 For a while, I just switched off ZMD. Then I decided to be a bit
 cleverer. I altered the init script that starts zmd, and changed the
 start command line to be /usr/bin/nice -n 19 ${ZMD_BIN} $ZMD_OPTIONS

 Viola ! My quiet PC is now quiet, and my laptop now runs well at start
 up.

 Yes, ZMD takes a lot longer to sort itself out, but it no longer
 affects me, and that makes me happy.

 All I need to do now, is work out why ZMD takes so flipping long to
 install patches regardless of it's NICEness... (come back YaST, all is
 forgiven !)

 GTG

Hi 
- may we ask as to the whereabouts of bespoken script :-)



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Re: [opensuse] Audio just stopped

2007-03-07 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, John ffitch wrote:
 I was using my laptop (Suse10.2) and tried switching my microphone on
 in alsamixer -- everything went quiet.  Now I have no sound other that
 the beeps.  aplay says it is playing but silence.  Audacity says it is
 playing and silence.
   I have done the obvious -- nothing is muted in alsamnixer;
 re-configured the sound card; rebooted the machien.  Powered it off,
 waited and restarted -- and still silence.

 I was using the sound earlier in the day, and I NEED the sound to
 teach my DSP class.  Any ideas of (a) what happened and more
 importantly (b) how to restore sounds?

 Machine is ThinkPadX40

 ==John ffitch

I'm guessing its an intel sound chipset.   What a flaming
piece of crap that High Definition Audio is.

Start by yast, ripping out the sound system and putting it
back in piece by piece.  

I had one new Dell 9200 desktop that simply refused to give
sound for more than a few minutes. I dicked around with it for
three hours and finally said enough, grabbed a ancient sound blaster
card out of the spare parts bin, slapped it in and had sound
in 5 minutes flat.

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Re: [opensuse] Xfce 4.4 disaster with OpenSuSE-factory

2007-03-07 Thread Horst G. Burkhardt III
In my opinion, YaST often breaks more than it fixes. And on my system it's 
a right memory hog.

But if you can provide simple instructions on how to make yast use the 
opensuse-factory sources on ftp5.gwdg.de and how to get Xfce using it, 
I'll give it a jolly good college try.

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  Any help would be really appreciated. I'm told the missing package would
  be something like `xfcegui4-devel' - if the situation has since been
  rectified please let me know. Also, any workarounds would be appreciated.
 
 I installed xfce using YAST. YAST Software Managment module solved the 
 problem 
 due to earlier versions are included in the CD/DVD and Packman rpos etc.
 
 I selected all the packages I needed and installed them via YAST. After all 
 is 
 installed I run rug (Novell-zenworks cli tool) and checked any updates are 
 available. If there are any rug will install them. 
 
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Re: [opensuse] Hint: ZMD Eating CPU/Disc

2007-03-07 Thread Gordon Ross
 On 07 March 2007 at 09:54, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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 Onsdag 07 marts 2007 10:44 skrev Gordon Ross:
 I've built several OpenSuSE 10.x machines, and on all of them, I've had
 the fun of finding that at startup/login, the ZDM stuff just eats CPU
  disc. On quiet PCs, the CPU fan has to work overtime just to support
 the stuff, and on laptops, ZMD just eats disc I/O.

 For a while, I just switched off ZMD. Then I decided to be a bit
 cleverer. I altered the init script that starts zmd, and changed the
 start command line to be /usr/bin/nice -n 19 ${ZMD_BIN} $ZMD_OPTIONS

 Viola ! My quiet PC is now quiet, and my laptop now runs well at start
 up.

 Yes, ZMD takes a lot longer to sort itself out, but it no longer
 affects me, and that makes me happy.

 All I need to do now, is work out why ZMD takes so flipping long to
 install patches regardless of it's NICEness... (come back YaST, all is
 forgiven !)

 GTG
 
 Hi 
 - may we ask as to the whereabouts of bespoken script :-)

I just edited /etc/init.d/novell-zmd

Look for the line that just says ${ZMD_BIN} $ZMD_OPTIONS and prefix it with 
/usr/bin/nice -n 19 

GTG

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Re: [opensuse] Keyboard repeat on SELD10

2007-03-07 Thread Clayton

I've just installed SLED10 (plus all the updates) on a DellD820 laptop.
The install went fine. After the install, however, I had a major problem
with the keyboard: Uncontrolled/random repeating of keys. For example,
just typing hello could result in helooo
I've never seeen this on any other SuSE Linux (9.x, 10.x or SLES)

[snip]

I had a quick search of the archives but I couldn't find anything
similar for SuSE.

Has anyone else had this, or got any other suggestions for fixes ?




You're not alone with this problem.  Look in the February archives.
There are a couple threads on this subject.  Also some in December and
November.

Take a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223561 and
see if it is similar to your situation.

C.
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[opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Vince Oliver


Hi All,


How to easily remove some particular files from more than one 
directory.  For example I have directories:


$ ls -l
total 12
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox1
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:30 DHbox10
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox2
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox3
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox4
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:31 DHbox5
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox6
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox7
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox8
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox9

from all these directories I would like to remove JUST files that finish 
wit suffix = 'pro' and suffix = '.dat' keeping others untouched


thanks
oliver
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[opensuse] Changing Remote Administration screen resolution

2007-03-07 Thread Tim Nicholson
The default Screen resolution for Remote Administration is set to
1024x768. I presume this is from the setting in file /etc/xinetd.d/vnc.

I would like the option to switch to a higher resolution, and the above
file seems to allow for such things.

I have enabled the higher res option on port 5902 in the above file,
(default is disabled) opened 5902 in the firewall, and restarted X.

However I cannot connect to my server on 5902 (5901 works fine).

Anyone know what bit I have missed?
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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Vince Oliver wrote:


Hi All,


How to easily remove some particular files from more than one 
directory.  For example I have directories:


$ ls -l
total 12
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox1
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:30 DHbox10
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox2
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox3
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox4
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:31 DHbox5
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox6
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox7
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox8
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox9

from all these directories I would like to remove JUST files that 
finish wit suffix = 'pro' and suffix = '.dat' keeping others untouched


thanks
oliver

Hi Oliver,
find DHbox* -name *.dat | xargs rm
should do the trick.

Best regards
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Re: [opensuse] Hint: ZMD Eating CPU/Disc

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Wednesday 2007-03-07 at 09:54 -, Gordon Ross wrote:

  Hi 
  - may we ask as to the whereabouts of bespoken script :-)
 
 I just edited /etc/init.d/novell-zmd
 
 Look for the line that just says ${ZMD_BIN} $ZMD_OPTIONS and prefix it with 
 /usr/bin/nice -n 19 

I did the same some days back. What worries me is that those processes run 
several times a day. I suppose it depends on /etc/zmd/zmd.conf, but it 
has:

refresh-interval=86400

so that should be correct...


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Re: [opensuse] To the well again

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2007-03-06 at 22:51 -0600, Stevens wrote:

 What happens if I blow away the /home partition? How do I then create the 
 root user? Something about booting to the install disk in repair mode, I 
 think.

Mr. root does not use /home, he uses /root. So yes, of course you can blow 
/home and still log in as root.

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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Gordon Ross
 On 07 March 2007 at 10:49, in message
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Sylvester Lykkehus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vince Oliver wrote:

 Hi All,


 How to easily remove some particular files from more than one 
 directory.  For example I have directories:

 $ ls -l
 total 12
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox1
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:30 DHbox10
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox2
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox3
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox4
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:31 DHbox5
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox6
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox7
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox8
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox9

 from all these directories I would like to remove JUST files that 
 finish wit suffix = 'pro' and suffix = '.dat' keeping others
untouched

 thanks
 oliver
 Hi Oliver,
 find DHbox* -name *.dat | xargs rm
 should do the trick.

Don't you need quotes around the *.dat to stop the shell expanding it
?

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Re: [opensuse] Monitoring for Linux

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2007-03-06 at 11:26 -0500, Jose wrote:

First, you hijacked a thread (Subject: Re: [opensuse] X start help). 
Please, don't.

 I am looking for a monitoring software for Linux, I know about Big Brother,
 but I am looking for something like gkrellm, this software gives me reading
 for heat, fans working, but it runs local, does anybody knows something like
 this that can be monitored remotely?

gkrellm can do remote monitoring (man gkrellm).

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Re: [opensuse] ZEN update error on startup (OSL 10.2) (SOLVED) WHY DOES THIS FIX THIS ISSUE?

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2007-03-06 at 18:42 -0500, Chris C wrote:

 Got it...I went to that path of the file and noticed that the file is
 there again...so are you saying unlike Windows, Linux will rebuild a
 file if it's missing? Does this go for all system or application
 files?

Certainly not!


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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Philippe Andersson
Gordon Ross wrote:
 On 07 March 2007 at 10:49, in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Sylvester Lykkehus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vince Oliver wrote:
 Hi All,


 How to easily remove some particular files from more than one 
 directory.  For example I have directories:

 $ ls -l
 total 12
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox1
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:30 DHbox10
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox2
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox3
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox4
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:31 DHbox5
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox6
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox7
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox8
 drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox9

 from all these directories I would like to remove JUST files that 
 finish wit suffix = 'pro' and suffix = '.dat' keeping others
 untouched
 thanks
 oliver
 Hi Oliver,
 find DHbox* -name *.dat | xargs rm
 should do the trick.
 
 Don't you need quotes around the *.dat to stop the shell expanding it
 ?
That or a '\' in front.

$ find DHbox* -name *.dat -o -name *.pro -exec rm -f {} \;

would do. Omit the final -exec... to first check that it only catches
those files you want to get rid of.

HTH

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Vince Oliver

thanks for reply. trick works :)

May I ask you for one more trick?  How to remove ALL files from 
directories EXCEPT '*.pro'?



Many thanks Sylvester




On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:


Vince Oliver wrote:


Hi All,


How to easily remove some particular files from more than one directory. 
For example I have directories:


$ ls -l
total 12
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox1
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:30 DHbox10
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox2
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox3
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:36 DHbox4
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  7 08:31 DHbox5
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox6
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox7
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox8
drwx--+ 2 ovince None 0 Mar  6 16:37 DHbox9

from all these directories I would like to remove JUST files that finish 
wit suffix = 'pro' and suffix = '.dat' keeping others untouched


thanks
oliver

Hi Oliver,
find DHbox* -name *.dat | xargs rm
should do the trick.

Best regards
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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Philippe Andersson
Vince Oliver wrote:
 thanks for reply. trick works :)
 
 May I ask you for one more trick?  How to remove ALL files from
 directories EXCEPT '*.pro'?

$ find DHbox* -type f -not -name *.pro -exec rm -f {} \;

Beware that find will recurse any directory below your DHbox*. Make sure
that's what you want before typing this command. Omit the -exec part to
have a look at the selected file list first.

HTH

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

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Re: [opensuse] Is it just me not receiving YUM updates

2007-03-07 Thread Damon Register

John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Paul Gardiner wrote:


I've been using http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/update/10.2. 


Run away from that mirror like your hair is on fire.
Its frequently in-operable or out of date or overworked.

I am glad you posted that.  I just installed openSuSE 10.2 last
week and haven't had any major problems but I am rather disgusted
with the online updates.  It seems that I am too often getting
various error messages about the servers.  I can come back a few
hours later and it works fine.  In addition to the server mentioned,
I find that the oss and non-oss ones are bad too.  This weekend I was
trying to install some packages and got an error message about
http://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/media.1/directory.yast
I checked
http://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/media.1
and found that directory.yast was listed but it was a bad link.  A few
hours later it was working again.  In my not so humble opinion the
current online package management stinks.  So, to answer the original
poster, it isn't just you.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE no more

2007-03-07 Thread Damon Register

Kai Ponte wrote:
I never - more than in jest - put down anyone using Linux. I have friends on 
Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat, CentOS, YellowDog and Linspire. 

I must have the wrong friends.  :-)
All the people I know are MS slaves.  There might be hope for my 6
year old son.  I installed SuSE 10.2 on his PC and he loves playing
with Rosegarden connected to an organ.  Maybe I'll get his piano teacher
interested too.


I even have one super-mega-geek friend using KDE on BSD. :P

How about Solaris 10?

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Re: [opensuse] Is it just me not receiving YUM updates

2007-03-07 Thread Magnus Boman
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 06:41 -0500, Damon Register wrote:
 John Andersen wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Paul Gardiner wrote:
 
  I've been using http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/update/10.2. 
  
  Run away from that mirror like your hair is on fire.
  Its frequently in-operable or out of date or overworked.
 I am glad you posted that.  I just installed openSuSE 10.2 last
 week and haven't had any major problems but I am rather disgusted
 with the online updates.  It seems that I am too often getting
 various error messages about the servers.  I can come back a few
 hours later and it works fine.  In addition to the server mentioned,
 I find that the oss and non-oss ones are bad too.  This weekend I was
 trying to install some packages and got an error message about
 http://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/media.1/directory.yast
 I checked
 http://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/media.1
 and found that directory.yast was listed but it was a bad link.  A few
 hours later it was working again.  In my not so humble opinion the
 current online package management stinks.  So, to answer the original

Excuse me, but what does the online package management have to do with
broken mirrors?

 Damon Register

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Re: [opensuse] Microsoft ordered to pay Alcatel-Lucent $1.5 bln in patent case - MarketWatch

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Jones

David Brodbeck wrote:

Russell Jones wrote:
  

As for whether the OGG formats are patent-encumbered: as I said
before, by definition they are not. They just may not be backward
compatible.




They are not *known* to be patent-encumbered.  It doesn't mean someone
couldn't pop up with a submarine patent that happens to cover them. 
It's unlikely but it does happen.  Right now it wouldn't be worthwhile,

though, because no one with deep pockets is supporting Ogg.
  
You misunderstand. If Vorbis v1.3 (say) infringes a (submarine or 
otherwise) patent, the next version, e.g. v2.0, will be changed such 
that it does not. You just won't be able to play v1.3 files on a v2.0 
player. Depending on what the infringement is, it may be possible to 
build a converter without loss of quality. That converter may itself 
infringe patents, however. In practical terms, that would be less of a 
problem than mp3-like format patents.

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Re: [opensuse] Microsoft ordered to pay Alcatel-Lucent $1.5 bln in patent case - MarketWatch [OT]

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Jones

David Brodbeck wrote:

Russell Jones wrote:
  

That is incorrect: http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#_fpsupport


Their link to the integer-only implementation is broken.  But I believe
them that it exists. ;)
  
Looks like one of Xiph's servers is down. SVN doesn't work and neither 
does their wiki.

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Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl

2007-03-07 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Mar 07, 07 11:03:56 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
 So I should not enable AIGLX in Xorg conf file?

It depends on whether you want to run compiz on AIGLX or Xgl. Both have
advantages and disadvantages. compiz used to only work on Xgl. The
current (read: really new) compiz package on openSUSE runs on both, even
with ATI's fglrx driver using Xgl. Beryl runs on both, but AFAIK not at
all with the fglrx driver, and probably not on NVIDIA with Xgl.

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Re: [opensuse] Daylight Savings Time and Suse 9.x and 10.0

2007-03-07 Thread James Knott
James D. Parra wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 05:14:55PM -0800, James D. Parra wrote:
   
 zdump -v /etc/localtime PST8PDT |grep 2007
 

   
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 01:59:59 2007
 
 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
   
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 03:00:00 2007
 
 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200

   
 PST8PDT Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007
 
 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
   
 PST8PDT Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007
 
 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200

   
 This can't be good. Any ideas on how to fix it?
 

 Perhaps your /etc/localtime was just a copy from a previous timezone
 package. Suggest you re-run tzselect and/or move it out of the way and
 then re-try tzselect.

 ~~~

 Changed the name of /etc/localtime to /etc/localtime.old and ran tzselect,
 however it did not create a new localtime file. Any ideas?

   

Someone else suggested I try changing time zones and then back again. 
That did it for me.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Win vs Lin info

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Jones

John Summerfield wrote:

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 23:58, Russell Jones wrote:
  

Well, not as tidy as AD (nor, I suspect, as difficult to diagnose when
it goes wrong) is to use something like AutoYaST to roll out software
and configuration packages (which you roll yourself). Far more powerful
than the MS mandated and controlled policy system, though you can do
similar things with MSIs and the MS package distribution system (SMS is
it?).




At this point, the battle's over. One can control pretty much every aspect of 
  
I guess you'd better stop using Linux-based systems then. What an odd 
thing to say... I'm sure there's room for improvement, but there is no 
reason why windows cannot be displaced. Granted, it may be hard (though 
I don't think it is in many cases), but it's far from impossible, 
especially if Linux-based systems are being used on the desktop. Which 
is what we're talking about AFAIAA.


As for institutions not rolling out FF, that's not true. 
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:2.0_Institutional_Deployment
Again, it may be harder (I'd say less convenient in this case), but it's 
far from impossible. Of course, rolling out to Windows desktops, they 
use AD. But AD being a requirement to fully utilise windows desktops was 
an inevitable and predictable part of MS' server and lock-in strategies. 
If the roll out were to Linux desktops the same functionality is 
certainly possible, though probably harder.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE no more

2007-03-07 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 03:47:24 am Damon Register wrote:
 Kai Ponte wrote:
  I never - more than in jest - put down anyone using Linux. I have friends
  on Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat, CentOS, YellowDog and Linspire.

 I must have the wrong friends.  :-)
 All the people I know are MS slaves.  

Well, I'm a MS slave at work, if that makes you feel better. In the groups of 
friends, though, I know many running *nix. 

They're out there!

 There might be hope for my 6 
 year old son.  I installed SuSE 10.2 on his PC and he loves playing
 with Rosegarden connected to an organ.  Maybe I'll get his piano teacher
 interested too.

Hmm - rosegarden. Never heard of it. Installing as I write.


  I even have one super-mega-geek friend using KDE on BSD. :P

 How about Solaris 10?

Know what? I only knew of one guy at my old work who had even downloaded 
Solaris 10. Kind of weird, too, because you'd think solaris would be more 
popular than any given Linux distro. My first real use of Unix came playing 
on SPARC boxes after I graduated college. Except for the poor UI (when 
compared to OS/2 and Win31) I thought they were interesting.


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Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl

2007-03-07 Thread Hans van der Merwe

On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 13:14 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote:
 On Mar 07, 07 11:03:56 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
  So I should not enable AIGLX in Xorg conf file?
 
 It depends on whether you want to run compiz on AIGLX or Xgl. Both have
 advantages and disadvantages. compiz used to only work on Xgl. The
 current (read: really new) compiz package on openSUSE runs on both, even
 with ATI's fglrx driver using Xgl. Beryl runs on both, but AFAIK not at
 all with the fglrx driver, and probably not on NVIDIA with Xgl.
 
 Matthias
 

But me with nVidia card, Beryl and AIGLX (or whatever)  - do I place
the AIGLX option in the conf file or not? Seeing that its doesn't really
use AIGLX?




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Re: [opensuse] Why other Boot Options

2007-03-07 Thread Chris C
Alex, Hello,
Please forgive me...but I don't understand what you mean.  Although I
would reallly like to know.
I'm assuming the files that your looking for are log files?
On this fourm, how should I post it...as an attachment or inline with
this message?  Where are you guys getting all this great information
from.  I have a couple of 1000 page book on SuSE Linux...but I haven't
gotten to this stuff yet!  

Thanks Alex,  
Chris


On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 09:25 +0100, Alexander Osthof wrote:
  Can somebody shed some light on the new options that are now in my boot
  menu?
  I have the normal such as:
  OpenSuse 10.2
  OpenSuse Fail-Safe 10.2
  but now I have two other options which read:
  Opensuse 10.2 (XEN)
  Kernel-2.6.18.2-34-bigsmp
 
  What are these new options and where did they come from?
 
  Thanks guys
  Chris
 
  OH THanks Ken for that update fix!! it worked great!
 
 Another thing came into my mind: can you please post your /boot/grub/menu.lst 
 (or /etc/lilo.conf -- in case you use lilo)?
 
 Greetings

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[opensuse] zmd problem

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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Hi,

My zmd (suse 10.2) complains like this:

Mar  7 13:28:45 nimrodel zmd: ServiceManager (ERROR): Service refresh 
failed for '20070302-213658': Failed to parse XML metadata: Unsigned file 
'/repodata/repomd.xml 
(ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/0.00pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/projects/OpenOffice.org/10.2-i386/2.1-0.1)'

That repository I tried to add in Yast, then cancelled it: Yast doesn't 
show it.


I tried using rug to remove the repo:

  rug unsub 20070302-213658

and it shows off:

nimrodel:/etc/zmd # rug ca

Sub'd? | Name| Service
- ---+-+
Yes| 20070216-072531 | 20070216-072531
Yes| 20070216-192032 | 20070216-192032
Yes| 20070216-192152 | 20070216-192152
Yes| 20070216-193512 | 20070216-193512
   | 20070302-213658 | 20070302-213658


But it is still there. How do I remove it completely?


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RE: [opensuse] Hint: ZMD Eating CPU/Disc

2007-03-07 Thread Morten Bjørnsvik

|All I need to do now, is work out why ZMD takes so flipping 
|long to install patches regardless of it's NICEness... (come 
|back YaST, all is forgiven !)

Mono is the root to all evil.

I had the same problem with beagle. 100% cpu load when it indexes.
I find it strange because all indexing Should be io-bound.
When I do a similar indexing of my disks in perl/sqlite I
get 1% cpu load and 100% io-wait, which is more what to expect.

All mono programs seem to run at 100% cpu? Poor runtime interrupt handling,
poor hardware detection or just bad implementation. Could someone please
post some mono benchmarks to kill my suspicion.

You can delete zmd, yast/you works fine for me:
http://opensuse-community.org/Package_Sources

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Re: [opensuse] zmd problem

2007-03-07 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07. 2007 14:17]:
 
 I tried using rug to remove the repo:
 
   rug unsub 20070302-213658
 
 and it shows off:

'unsubscribe' just lowers the precendence. An unsubscribed service will
e.g. not be considered when searching for packages to be update.
However, it will still be valid for providing packages unavailable through
other services.

[...]
 
 But it is still there. How do I remove it completely?
 

Use rug sd (service-delete) to remove it.

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RE: [opensuse] Hint: ZMD Eating CPU/Disc

2007-03-07 Thread Gordon Ross
 On 07 March 2007 at 13:18, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Morten Bjørnsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 |All I need to do now, is work out why ZMD takes so flipping 
 |long to install patches regardless of it's NICEness... (come 
 |back YaST, all is forgiven !)
 
 Mono is the root to all evil.

They used to say the same about Java...

 I had the same problem with beagle. 100% cpu load when it indexes.
 I find it strange because all indexing Should be io-bound.

I'd noticed that as well. It really only hits my machines after they've first 
been built. After that I never notice, so I don't care (Although I might notice 
now that ZMD is under control)

But here's another thought: ZMD  Beagle indexing are background tasks. So why 
do they either not have code in them to detect  reduce system load, or get 
fired off at a lower priority. I mean, this is back software engineering/system 
administration. Hello ?!? Anyone home ?

GTG


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[opensuse] change directorie

2007-03-07 Thread Vince Oliver

hi All,

When I want to change directory in Cygwin I simply copy the path from 
Windows's Command Prompt or Total Commander to Cygwin command line 
like (I do that when path is very long):


cd c:\users\oliver\temp

But it does not work since it can not recognise '\'. So I have to change 
'\' into '/' every time I wanna change directory in Cygwin. Is there a 
solution to this problem?




I tried something with pipelines but no success. I tried for example:

echo 'c:\users\oliver\temp' | sed 's_\\_/_g' | xargs cd

How to properly pipeline these commands?

Thanks
Oliver
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Re: [opensuse] zmd problem

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:17:33 +0100 (CET)
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 My zmd (suse 10.2) complains like this:
 
 Mar  7 13:28:45 nimrodel zmd: ServiceManager (ERROR): Service refresh 
 failed for '20070302-213658': Failed to parse XML metadata: Unsigned
 file '/repodata/repomd.xml 
 (ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/0.00pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/projects/OpenOffice.org/10.2-i386/2.1-0.1)'
 
 That repository I tried to add in Yast, then cancelled it: Yast
 doesn't show it.
 
 
 I tried using rug to remove the repo:
 
   rug unsub 20070302-213658
 
 and it shows off:
 
 nimrodel:/etc/zmd # rug ca
 
 Sub'd? | Name| Service
 - ---+-+
 Yes| 20070216-072531 | 20070216-072531
 Yes| 20070216-192032 | 20070216-192032
 Yes| 20070216-192152 | 20070216-192152
 Yes| 20070216-193512 | 20070216-193512
| 20070302-213658 | 20070302-213658
 
 
 But it is still there. How do I remove it completely?

http://opensuse-community.org/Package_Sources

I'm going to give the instructions in that link a try tonight when I
get home.  Credit goes to a somebody else who just posted this link in
another post just recently, but I can't find it now.

Steve
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Re: [opensuse] KDM default session selection (previous session)

2007-03-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Sylvester Lykkehus [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-07-07 04:48]:
 [...]
 So, for quite some time a have been living with this little issue:
 When I select a different session, let's say gnome, and enjoy myself
 a little in there, then end that session, going back to my already
 running KDE session.
 I then shut down the PC, and the next time it's booted, it will start 
 gnome (if autologin enabled), or gnome will be the selected session in
 KDM.
 
 Can I change this behavior of KDM, so that it never selects the
 previous session / last used DE, but instead is fixed on e.g. KDE,
 even though the last DE I logged into was something else.

The 'session manager' defaults to the *last* 'desktop manager'
initiated.  In your case you started gnome, closed it and returned to
an already open kde.  I don't know how you would achieve your wishes
w/o opening another kde session *after* opening the gnome session.

Appears to be one of those 'cake and eat it' situations.

gud luk,

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Re: [opensuse] Need explanation - question 1

2007-03-07 Thread Tom Patton
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 10:42 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
 Onsdag 07 marts 2007 07:48 skrev Ken Jennings:
  On Friday 2006-12-01 15:52, usr wrote:
   ...
  
 
 may we see the output of df -h?
 
 
Here's my layout, since about the 8.0 days, now fully loaded with
10.2.  /boot is ext2, all else is reiserfs.

master:~ # df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1 3.1G  193M  2.9G   7% /
udev  506M  216K  506M   1% /dev
/dev/sda1  54M  9.6M   41M  19% /boot
/dev/md0   11G  6.6G  3.5G  66% /data1
/dev/sda10 39G  1.5G   38G   4% /home
/dev/sdb7 132G   61G   71G  47% /local
/dev/sda7 4.1G  1.4G  2.7G  34% /opt
/dev/sda9  11G   74M   10G   1% /srv
/dev/sda8 4.0G  9.2M  3.8G   1% /tmp
/dev/md1   11G  2.3G  7.8G  23% /usr
/dev/sdb2 5.1G  1.4G  3.7G  27% /usr/lib
/dev/sda3 5.1G  468M  4.6G  10% /var

When I do a fresh install, I copy /home into /data1 (ie /data1/home92),
then format everything except /data1 and /local.  (I'd hate to
accidentally loose one of the kids' homework papers...or the wife's
favorite recipe!)

I used to keep /usr and /usr/lib on separate hard drives, to improve
load speed, but now /usr is on raid, and touches both sda and sdb
anyway.  I can't tell a big difference.  I should probably rethink that
and include /local in a raid instead...next computer, I guess.

Tom in NM


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[opensuse] [Repost]: Using an extra driver at install-time

2007-03-07 Thread Philippe Andersson
Can anyone out there please help ?

Any pointer to documentation explaining how to hack / customize the
OpenSuSE installer would be welcome.

Has any of you experience in installing on unsupported hardware ?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

 Original Message 
Subject: Using an extra driver at install-time
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:35:45 +0100
From: Philippe Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Ion Beam Applications, S.A.
To: opensuse@opensuse.org

Hello list,

I'm trying to install OpenSuSE 10.2 on an oldish Dell PowerEdge 1300,
fitted with a PERC 2/SC RAID controller.

According to the documentation I found on the web, the PERC 2/SC
requires the megaraid_legacy driver. That driver doesn't seem to be
provided in OpenSuSE any longer (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I already tried using the newer megaraid driver, but this one is meant
for PERC 3/PERC 4 controllers and hangs during modprobe against a PERC 2.

I'm familiar with the procedure of compiling a custom kernel / custom
modules on a separate machine to generate the driver I need from
sources, but could you please tell me what the easiest procedure is to
then have the Yast installer use this extra module (and integrate it in
the installed system/initrd -- the machine needs to eventually boot off
the RAID array) ?

Please also note that the Dell server doesn't have a floppy unit. It has
USB ports, though, and a NIC of course.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

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Re: [opensuse] change directorie

2007-03-07 Thread Martin Mielke
Hi Vince,

have you tried to escape the \'s ?

something like:

cd c:\\foo\\bar


HTH,
Martin



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To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 2:49:37 PM
Subject: [opensuse] change directorie

hi All,

When I want to change directory in Cygwin I simply copy the path from 
Windows's Command Prompt or Total Commander to Cygwin command line 
like (I do that when path is very long):

cd c:\users\oliver\temp

But it does not work since it can not recognise '\'. So I have to change 
'\' into '/' every time I wanna change directory in Cygwin. Is there a 
solution to this problem?



I tried something with pipelines but no success. I tried for example:

echo 'c:\users\oliver\temp' | sed 's_\\_/_g' | xargs cd

How to properly pipeline these commands?

Thanks
Oliver
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Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl

2007-03-07 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Mar 07, 07 12:51:41 +, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
 But me with nVidia card, Beryl and AIGLX (or whatever)  - do I place
 the AIGLX option in the conf file or not? Seeing that its doesn't really
 use AIGLX?

No. As I said, NVidia had accelerated indirect OpenGL from day one (the
acrynom AIGLX wasn't even invented back then). There is no option to
deactivate / activate this in the NVidia driver. The option AIGLX will
be ignored.

You need to have Composite activated (section Extensions). But that is
the same for all AIGLX drivers.

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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread JB
On 07 March 07 05:29, Vince Oliver wrote:

  snip

  Vince, please don't top-post. Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse] Why other Boot Options

2007-03-07 Thread JB
On 07 March 07 07:09, Chris C wrote:


  top-post put where it should be
 
 On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 09:25 +0100, Alexander Osthof wrote:
   Can somebody shed some light on the new options that are now in my boot
   menu?
   I have the normal such as:
   OpenSuse 10.2
   OpenSuse Fail-Safe 10.2
   but now I have two other options which read:
   Opensuse 10.2 (XEN)
   Kernel-2.6.18.2-34-bigsmp
  
   What are these new options and where did they come from?
  
   Thanks guys
   Chris
  
   OH THanks Ken for that update fix!! it worked great!
  
  Another thing came into my mind: can you please post 
your /boot/grub/menu.lst 
  (or /etc/lilo.conf -- in case you use lilo)?
  
  Greetings

 Alex, Hello,
 Please forgive me...but I don't understand what you mean.  Although I
 would reallly like to know.
 I'm assuming the files that your looking for are log files?
 On this fourm, how should I post it...as an attachment or inline with
 this message?  Where are you guys getting all this great information
 from.  I have a couple of 1000 page book on SuSE Linux...but I haven't
 gotten to this stuff yet!  
 
 Thanks Alex,  
 Chris

  Please don't top-post, Chris. Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse] Audio just stopped

2007-03-07 Thread Robert Lewis
John Andersen wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 March 2007, John ffitch wrote:
   
 I was using my laptop (Suse10.2) and tried switching my microphone on
 in alsamixer -- everything went quiet.  Now I have no sound other that
 the beeps.  aplay says it is playing but silence.  Audacity says it is
 playing and silence.
   I have done the obvious -- nothing is muted in alsamnixer;
 re-configured the sound card; rebooted the machien.  Powered it off,
 waited and restarted -- and still silence.

 I was using the sound earlier in the day, and I NEED the sound to
 teach my DSP class.  Any ideas of (a) what happened and more
 importantly (b) how to restore sounds?

 Machine is ThinkPadX40

 ==John ffitch
 

 I'm guessing its an intel sound chipset.   What a flaming
 piece of crap that High Definition Audio is.

 Start by yast, ripping out the sound system and putting it
 back in piece by piece.  

 I had one new Dell 9200 desktop that simply refused to give
 sound for more than a few minutes. I dicked around with it for
 three hours and finally said enough, grabbed a ancient sound blaster
 card out of the spare parts bin, slapped it in and had sound
 in 5 minutes flat.
   
I have an HP dv5237cl and lost the Microphone sometime back.  The audio
out was
very weak too.  I replaced the alsa stuff by compiling the latest from
the alsa web site and my audio volume out was restored to normal.  The
microphone issues persisted.
I notice a new RC from Alsa now so will eventually get around to trying
that.  Meanwhile, I purchased a USB headset and the microphone works
perfectly for Skype etc.
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[opensuse] [maybe OT] Mic on Skype won't work

2007-03-07 Thread Martin Mielke
Hi all,

the mic won't work on openSuSE 10.2 when using the latest Skype version for 
Linux. That is, I can hear the other party but they can't hear me at all.

Reading on the Skype forums I found this:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=9147fe18079ca59d058dcf0983dc5385showtopic=66544

and that leads me to:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=66109

so... I double-checked with alsamixer and kmix that nothing needed was muted or 
disabled. And yes, cables are correctly plugged :-)

Afterwards I also tried downgrading to Skype 1.2.x ... but it still doesn't 
work as it should.
I also tried with the OSS wrapper aoss, just in case, with no luck at all...

Then I fired up krecord and checked that it was possible to record/playback my 
own voice

Has anyone found a solution for this??


TIA,
Martin






 

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Re: [opensuse] zmd problem

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Wednesday 2007-03-07 at 14:35 +0100, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

  I tried using rug to remove the repo:
  
rug unsub 20070302-213658
  
  and it shows off:
 
 'unsubscribe' just lowers the precendence. An unsubscribed service will
 e.g. not be considered when searching for packages to be update.
 However, it will still be valid for providing packages unavailable through
 other services.

Ah.

 [...]
  
  But it is still there. How do I remove it completely?
  
 
 Use rug sd (service-delete) to remove it.

Yes, that did it, thankyou!

I guess that the man page lacks a yast to rug translation dictionary. I 
didn't see that repository is here service, but I thought it was a 
catalog.

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Re: [opensuse] Why other Boot Options

2007-03-07 Thread Philippe Andersson
Chris C wrote:
 Sorry about top-post I didn't know.  Ok the /boot/grub/menu.lst is
 what Alex wants but what is really the correct way of getting access to
 that?  I'm asking because it's a root permission only.  How do you guys
 normally view this root only file?  Do you change the permission via the
 command prompt or should I log in as root and then relog in as the
 normal user?
Open a shell as yourself, then type:

$ su -

Then provide the root password. You're now root. Do what admin task you
need to carry out (such as cat /boot/grub/menu.lst or something). Then
type Ctrl-D to exit your root session. Your back in your own shell.

HTH

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

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Re: [opensuse] KDM default session selection (previous session)

2007-03-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Sylvester Lykkehus [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-07-07 04:48]:
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snip



The 'session manager' defaults to the *last* 'desktop manager'
initiated.  In your case you started gnome, closed it and returned to
an already open kde.  I don't know how you would achieve your wishes
w/o opening another kde session *after* opening the gnome session.

Appears to be one of those 'cake and eat it' situations.

gud luk,

  

Hi Patrick,

That is exactly my problem, and indeed the 'workaround' I've been living 
with so far: open another KDE session after playing around in e.g. 
gnome, and before shutting down.


I would be happier though, if I could default it to something fixed, 
instead of the last used session.

Thanks for your reply anyway.

Best regards
Sylvester
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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 03:12, Philippe Andersson wrote:
 Gordon Ross wrote:
 ...

 $ find DHbox* -name *.dat -o -name *.pro -exec rm -f {} \;

 would do. Omit the final -exec... to first check that it only
 catches those files you want to get rid of.

If there are very many such files, execing a separate rm for each will 
be slow. The |xargs rm approach only invokes as many rm instances as 
it takes to handle the number of arguments present. It also frees you 
from the funky find -exec syntax, which many find confusing.


 HTH

 Cheers. Bye.

 Ph. A.


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Re: [opensuse] Need explanation - question 1

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2006-12-01 at 15:52 -0500, usr wrote:

 Recently installed 10.2 on a new hard drive. Triple boot all on their own 
 harddrives.
 
 I gave 10.2  a 3GB partition for /
 
 I also made separate partitions for /tmp, /var, and /home, each 10GB in size. 
 I went to update 10.2 and was warned that the / partition is 97% full.
 
 How can that be? Does everthing on the DVD install into /  ??
 
 Now, do I have to reinstall 10.2 after making the / partition much larger ??
 Some please explain what the problem is here. Please ??


Known feature. Simple get to one of the terminals, and manually mount 
the missing partitions. Use mount and df to see what is mounted and 
where, then mount whatever is needed, manually.

I assume that you haven't installed yet 10.2 and you are waiting at the 
dvd install/upgrade screen.


Or... no, hold on, you are asking something different. You have already 
installed, giving 3GB for /, and extra partitions for /tmp, /var, and 
/home, and now you see that / is almost full... obviously. Most of the 
stuff goes under /usr and /opt, which in your case goes to /. Well, you 
could substitute /var with /usr, but /var can also be big.

There is a chapter in the admin book about proper partitioning for 
systems, you should read it.


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Re: [opensuse] Shorewall (was; Re: [opensuse] Martin Glötzl-Koch STOP BOUNCING LIST MAIL)

2007-03-07 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, John Andersen wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Jon Clausen wrote:
  I'm by no means an iptables authority, and I'll probably never become one
  either.

 But Tom Eastep (Shorewall author) is.  The guy is a wizard, and really knows
 his stuff.  I've been using shorewall for years on Suse and now also on
 Kubuntu.

 What ever you do READ the QUICK START GUIDES.  It will save
 so much time.

 Every site I maintain does egress filtering with Shorewall. Especially
 for port 25.

Could I get a sample of some of your configs?  My main problem is as such.
I have SuSEfirewall working but complains from yast  I would like to look
at shorewall, but I have not gotten configs correct.

I have a Class C network and all machine I want visiable to the world are
one it.  I also have part of an other Class C that I share with others.
So I have a machine with three network cards as my router/firewall.  Here
is a diagram that shows network.  Most machines have two NIC's public and
private.

   Internet Internet
   ||
   | X.X.X.X Partial Class C| Download Dynamic IP
   | Y.Y.Y.Y Full Class C   |__
   |   |
   |System  System |
   |shared  shared | DHCP IP
   |storage storage|
-   -   -   -
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
|   |---+   |   |   |   |   |   |
|   1   |   |P  |   2   |   |   3   |   |   4   |
|   |   |B  |   |   |   |   |   |
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
|   |   |I  |   |   |   |   |   |
-   |P  -   -   -
   || |   ||
   |- |   ||
   || HUB/  |-++
   || Switch|  |  ||   |
   |-  |  ||   |
   |   |  | Other Systems
   | 192.168.x.x   |  |   Unix/Linux
   |   |  |
   |  MS Machines |  |   MS Masquarded
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| HUB/   |-+|   |   |   |   |   |
| Switch | ||   |   |   |   |   |
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Re: [opensuse] Monitoring for Linux

2007-03-07 Thread Jose

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Tuesday 2007-03-06 at 11:26 -0500, Jose wrote:

First, you hijacked a thread (Subject: Re: [opensuse] X start help). 
Please, don't.


  

I am looking for a monitoring software for Linux, I know about Big Brother,
but I am looking for something like gkrellm, this software gives me reading
for heat, fans working, but it runs local, does anybody knows something like
this that can be monitored remotely?



gkrellm can do remote monitoring (man gkrellm).

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Hi Carlos,

My sincere apologies about that, didn't mean to.

Thanks for the suggestion, I would look into the help file

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Re: [opensuse] Why other Boot Options

2007-03-07 Thread Alexander Osthof
 Chris C wrote:
  Sorry about top-post I didn't know.  Ok the /boot/grub/menu.lst is
  what Alex wants but what is really the correct way of getting access to
  that?  I'm asking because it's a root permission only.  How do you guys
  normally view this root only file?  Do you change the permission via the
  command prompt or should I log in as root and then relog in as the
  normal user?

 Open a shell as yourself, then type:

 $ su -

 Then provide the root password. You're now root. Do what admin task you
 need to carry out (such as cat /boot/grub/menu.lst or something). Then
 type Ctrl-D to exit your root session. Your back in your own shell.

 HTH

 Cheers. Bye.

 Ph. A.

Hi again,

as Philippe already said, the output of the command

cat /boot/grub/menu.lst

is what I like to see. Just mark it and paste it inline in your next mail.

BTW, it's the correct way that the file menu.lst has root permissions, so 
someone who maybe doesn't exactly know, what he is doing, can't change it 
easily. Thus he need root permission, and once you are root, you are expected 
to know what you are doing. ;)

Erm, do you know under which circumstances this 2 new kernel entries have 
appeared?

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Re: [opensuse] shell script newbie: how to display progress of a pipe?

2007-03-07 Thread Greg Freemyer

On 3/6/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 05 March 2007 19:50, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 What would you suggest for my case to report progress?
Write a non-buffering stage to preceed the sed stage.

command | non-buffering-counter | sed-stage | command2

The non-buffering counter stage immediately passes each input to its 
output
(does not buffer [stack] the data) and also keeps a running total of
bytes/words that can be posted to a log file at convenient intervals of mbs.


dd might be non-buffering if you set it low-enough blocksize.

something like:
command | dd bs=1b | sed-stage | command2

Then if you can figure out how to get the pid for dd.  (ie. I don't
know how to get the pid of a command in the middle of a pipe call like
that.  Maybe after the fact via ps -ef | grep | cut ...)

You can have a loop that tells dd to give a status update every 10
minutes or so:

while true
do
   sleep 600
   kill -sigusr1 $dd_pid
done

None of this is tested but you get the idea.

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Re: [opensuse] change directorie

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Jones

Martin Mielke wrote:

Hi Vince,

have you tried to escape the \'s ?

something like:

cd c:\\foo\\bar

  

or
cd c:\foo\bar
to
cd c:\foo\bar
using the home and end keys (and cursor keys).

hi All,

When I want to change directory in Cygwin I simply copy the path from 
Windows's Command Prompt or Total Commander to Cygwin command line 
like (I do that when path is very long):


cd c:\users\oliver\temp

But it does not work since it can not recognise '\'. So I have to change 
'\' into '/' every time I wanna change directory in Cygwin. Is there a 
solution to this problem?
  


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[opensuse] zmd mysteries

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Abrahams
This whole ZMD business snuck up on me when I updated from 10.0 to 10.2.  
Suddenly it was there and didn't seem to be working.  Right now I have an 
empty catalog -- probably as a result of desperate and somewhat misguided 
screwing around -- and no idea of how to create a useful catalog.  I found 
out a little about zmd through a Google search, but so far I haven't found 
any useful overview documentation.  So --

1. If I have an empty catalog list (I found that out by calling 
zen-installer), how do I create a useful catalog list?

2. Where can I find an overview of ZEN and its buddies?

3. What is the current relationship between ZEN and Yast?

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Re: [opensuse] To the well again

2007-03-07 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 05:51, Stevens wrote:
 The help on this forum has been tremendous. I'll try it again, maybe
 someone knows why...

 I installed Suse 10.2 on an old P3/900 box that previously had 9.1 on it.
 Both / and /home partitions were reiser but I reformatted / as ext3 and
 kept /home unchanged. I expected a few configuration problems because
 of the new version, which I had, but there is some weird s.. stuff
 happening, too.

First of all, please choose better subjects for your mails. They should in 
some way reflect your question, to make it easier for people to find 
interesting mail threads

Secondly, between 9.1 and 10.2, suse changed user IDs. Before, a user got uid 
100 and up by default, in 10.2 he gets 1000 and up. So odds are your 
old /home is simply owned by the wrong user.

Simply log in as root and run

chmod -R username.users /home/username

and see if that helps

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Re: [opensuse] To the well again

2007-03-07 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 18:47, I wrote:
 chmod -R username.users /home/username

Oops, that should of course be

chown -R username.users /home/username

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[opensuse] Saving Wireless settings

2007-03-07 Thread Phil Savoie
Hi All,

How does one save security setting with a wireless device?  Seems that my nic 
always connects to the neighbours unsecured wireless router.  Every time I 
start up I have to go into yast and configure the security settings.  It 
doesn't seem to save.

Is there a way to save the settings?

Phil
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Re: [opensuse] Changing Remote Administration screen resolution

2007-03-07 Thread Frank Seidel
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 18:53:41 Tim Nicholson wrote:
 Tim Nicholson wrote:
  The default Screen resolution for Remote Administration is set to
  1024x768. I presume this is from the setting in file
  /etc/xinetd.d/vnc.
 ...
 Think I have managed to answer my own question,
 Restarting X

 :~ /usr/sbin/rcxdm restart

 Doesn't seem to be enough, but a full shutdown reboot does it.
 Now being linux that is a very messy way to do it, so I guess I need
 to restart something else to make it all work!
as you changed xinetds config... perhaps
# /usr/sbin/rcxinetd restart
might be a good point to try ;-)

Have fun,
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Re: [opensuse] Saving Wireless settings

2007-03-07 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 10:00:17 am Phil Savoie wrote:
 Hi All,

 How does one save security setting with a wireless device?  Seems that my
 nic always connects to the neighbours unsecured wireless router.  Every
 time I start up I have to go into yast and configure the security settings.
  It doesn't seem to save.

 Is there a way to save the settings?


Yes - it is kind of hokey but this will work.  I had the same problems with my 
local network. I kept logging into my neighbors' networks.

First off, enable KWallet.  This is the tool which will store your passwords. 
In my systems, KWallet is run with a blank password.

When you login to your local network with the WEP or WPA password, then 
KWallet should pick up your password and store it.

You will then be able to re-login and should connect without a problem.

This worked for me on 10.1 until recently. For some reason - after a SMART 
update - I can no longer login with a password on my network. I tried a few 
things (see the emails KNetworkmanager Wierdness last week in the archives) 
but had no success.

To get around it, I did a few things. I took off my password on my WiFi. I 
enabled MAC detection to only allow my laptops. I also disabled ESSID 
broadcasting, so I have to know what the WiFi network is. 

So far, I haven't had anybody login, and I don't expect to.

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[opensuse] KDM login screen configuration

2007-03-07 Thread Tim Nicholson
al though I have a server with a number of user accounts with desktop
login disabled,  they still appear in the list of accounts at the KDM
login screen.

What I would really like is to be able to disable this list completely
so that no hint is given as to the valid users on the system.

Having trawled through yast I cannot see any way to do this, nor can I
find a KDM config file to tweak.

Any ideas anyone?
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Re: [opensuse] [maybe OT] Mic on Skype won't work

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Goldstein

On 3/7/07, Martin Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

the mic won't work on openSuSE 10.2 when using the latest Skype version for 
Linux. That is, I can hear the other party but they can't hear me at all.

Reading on the Skype forums I found this:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=9147fe18079ca59d058dcf0983dc5385showtopic=66544

and that leads me to:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=66109

so... I double-checked with alsamixer and kmix that nothing needed was muted or 
disabled. And yes, cables are correctly plugged :-)

Afterwards I also tried downgrading to Skype 1.2.x ... but it still doesn't 
work as it should.
I also tried with the OSS wrapper aoss, just in case, with no luck at all...

Then I fired up krecord and checked that it was possible to record/playback my 
own voice

Has anyone found a solution for this??


Hi Martin,

I have almost :-) no problem with OpenSuSE 10.2/KDE/Skype
1.3.0.53/Realtech onboard AC'97 audio chip with ALSA driver.

I mean, I just need to select MIC Boost, Capture control and set MIC
control to max volume, and i works.

Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE no more

2007-03-07 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 06:39, Kai Ponte wrote:
  I must have the wrong friends.  :-)
  All the people I know are MS slaves.  

 Well, I'm a MS slave at work, if that makes you feel better. In the groups
 of friends, though, I know many running *nix.
Free at last... free at last... thanks be I'm free at last!... from the 
NY to 
LA let freedom ring... from Redmond to FL Key let freedom ring...  thanks be 
I'm free at last...  :)





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[opensuse] opensuse updater is failing

2007-03-07 Thread Robert Lewis
Recently the orb turned to a different symbol.
There was some discussion earlier on this but
I have lost it, sorry.

Now I have a yellow triangle exclamation mark.
Hovering over it says twice:
Error:
Couldn't restore source.
Detail: Can't check if source has changed or not. Aborting refresh.

Removing zmd.db and reconstituting it has not helped this time.

Two questions: what caused the normal icon to change ?  Probably me ;-)
What do I do about the message above?

Cheers,
Bob
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Re: [opensuse] opensuse updater is failing

2007-03-07 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 19:37, Robert Lewis wrote:
 Recently the orb turned to a different symbol.
 There was some discussion earlier on this but
 I have lost it, sorry.

 Now I have a yellow triangle exclamation mark.
 Hovering over it says twice:
 Error:
 Couldn't restore source.
 Detail: Can't check if source has changed or not. Aborting refresh.

 Removing zmd.db and reconstituting it has not helped this time.

 Two questions: what caused the normal icon to change ?  Probably me ;-)
 What do I do about the message above?

The mirror you have set as update source is no longer reachable. This 
(probably) isn't a local error on your side.

Check the site manually in a browser, to see what happened with it

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Re: [opensuse] To the well again

2007-03-07 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Wednesday 2007-03-07 at 18:47 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:

 Secondly, between 9.1 and 10.2, suse changed user IDs. Before, a user got uid 
 100 and up by default, in 10.2 he gets 1000 and up. So odds are your 
 old /home is simply owned by the wrong user.

That situation is easy enough to detect, simply by isuing the command:

ls -l /home/username

If it comes out that files are owned by some number, instead of a 
username, then you are right.

 Simply log in as root and run
 
 chmod -R username.users /home/username
 
 and see if that helps

Or change the uid in the passwd file. My main user is still #100.

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[opensuse] Recommended by Microsoft

2007-03-07 Thread Peter Bradley
I've tried to ignore the business of Novell's agreement with MS, but 
today Novell wrote to me offering a free seminar on SUSE Linux 
Enterprise 10.  In their email they inform me that SUSE is, The only 
Linux recommended by Microsoft.  Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?


Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything 
that came recommended by Microsoft.


I've bought boxed versions of SUSE Linux since version 6.4 (I think it 
was).  I won't be doing that again until Novell stop using that 
particular bit of marketing nonsense.  I'm not the only one either.



Peter

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[opensuse] SCPM and Windows domain membership

2007-03-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Is it possible to get SCPM to remember Windows domain memberships?  I
have a laptop that I routinely take between two offices with different
domains.  While YAST makes it pretty easy to switch back and forth, it'd
be nice if SCPM could handle this for me the way it handles my other
network settings.

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Re: Notebook (ACPI) (Was: Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?)

2007-03-07 Thread David Brodbeck
John Andersen wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 March 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:
   
 ACPI is definitely a mixed bag.  I don't think I've ever seen a system
 where it worked completely right, unlike APM, which was pretty mature.
 

 Most laptops now days need it.  Period.  End of story.
 If you don't run it you get stuttering sound, jerky mouse pointers,
 dead or flaky usb ports, etc, etc.
   

Oh, I know.  My Thinkpad T22 is sort of one of them.  Under SUSE 10.1,
if I turned off ACPI and turned on APM, I could get working suspend, but
I had to disable CPU frequency switching in the BIOS or things got wonky
when I switched from AC to battery.  In 10.2, suspend doesn't work in
APM, either.  Suspend/resume have been gradually getting less reliable
for me with every new release, which makes me wonder if the Linux
developers have sort of given up on the whole thing as a bad job.
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Re: [opensuse] SCPM and Windows domain membership

2007-03-07 Thread Pete Connolly
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 19:17:36 David Brodbeck wrote:
 Is it possible to get SCPM to remember Windows domain memberships?  I
 have a laptop that I routinely take between two offices with different
 domains.  While YAST makes it pretty easy to switch back and forth, it'd
 be nice if SCPM could handle this for me the way it handles my other
 network settings.

Hi David

Have a look at Yast-System-Profile Manager.  At the bottom right is a 
configure button to configure resource groups.  On my 10.2 system, samba 
isn't included in the default resource groups, but you should be able to add 
in the services (samba, smbfs and/or nmb), config files etc. to allow you to 
save two different samba states.

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] remove files

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Beattie
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 08:01:10AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Wednesday 07 March 2007 03:12, Philippe Andersson wrote:
  Gordon Ross wrote:
  ...
 
  $ find DHbox* -name *.dat -o -name *.pro -exec rm -f {} \;
 
  would do. Omit the final -exec... to first check that it only
  catches those files you want to get rid of.
 
 If there are very many such files, execing a separate rm for each will 
 be slow. The |xargs rm approach only invokes as many rm instances as 
 it takes to handle the number of arguments present. It also frees you 
 from the funky find -exec syntax, which many find confusing.

If you pipe into xargs, you probably want to also use find -print0/xargs
-0 to protect against filenames containing spaces and other oddities,
e.g.:

  $ find DHbox* -name *.dat -o -name *.pro -print0 | xargs -0 rm

-print0 emits the list of files as a set of null terminated strings,
and -0 tells xargs to expect that format and compensate accordingly. As
usual, see the find(1) and xargs(1) man pages for more details.

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Re: [opensuse] Linux on Dell preloads

2007-03-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Randall R Schulz wrote:
 So I take it you didn't build this system yourself? Replacing RAM is not 
 that big of a deal, but if you want to take advantage of the 
 manufacturer's warranty, then I guess it doesn't really matter.
   

If it's Dell, they probably *will* ask you to open the machine up and
swap modules around and such.  They always have when I've called with
this sort of problem.  They don't seem to have a problem with end users
opening the case.

A word of warning: If Dell's own diagnostic program doesn't see the
problem, you will have  a very hard time getting them to correct it.  I
had a Dell laptop that crashed repeatedly in Windows XP.  They kept
asking me to do system restores, which didn't fix the problem.  Their
diagnostics didn't see anything wrong with the hardware.  Eventually I
found it ran fine if I removed one of the memory modules, and that the
problem followed the socket, not the module.  I successfully convinced
them to replace the motherboard, which turned out to have a bad memory
socket, but it was an uphill struggle.

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[opensuse] YaST Software Management module not responding

2007-03-07 Thread Tim Donnelly
I'm running the 64 bit version of Open SuSE 10.1.  Often (nearly always) when I 
try to go into the Software Management module in YaST I get nothing.  By 
nothing I mean, I click the icon, the thinking cursor appears and stays up 
for a few seconds then reverts back to the normal arrow cursor.  And that's it. 
 Rebooting the server generally allows me to use the module for some period of 
time, then the behavior starts again.

Running a ps -ef | grep yast command produces the following output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ps -ef | grep yast
root 30311 30206  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 kdesu -u root -c /sbin/yast2
root 30312 30311  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 /bin/bash /sbin/yast2
root 30352 1  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 /bin/bash /sbin/yast2 sw_single
1000 30530 30501  0 12:29 pts/400:00:00 grep yast

I have tried running yast2 from the command line and get the same thing, namely 
nothing.

The rest of the YaST modules seem to work fine, its only the Software 
Management one that is borked.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Tim Donnelly 
Systems/Network Administrator 
Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries 
(303)759-3399 x106 

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Re: [opensuse] YaST Software Management module not responding

2007-03-07 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 20:29, Tim Donnelly wrote:
 I'm running the 64 bit version of Open SuSE 10.1.  Often (nearly always)
 when I try to go into the Software Management module in YaST I get nothing.
  By nothing I mean, I click the icon, the thinking cursor appears and
 stays up for a few seconds then reverts back to the normal arrow cursor. 
 And that's it.  Rebooting the server generally allows me to use the module
 for some period of time, then the behavior starts again.

 Running a ps -ef | grep yast command produces the following output:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ps -ef | grep yast
 root 30311 30206  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 kdesu -u root -c
 /sbin/yast2 root 30312 30311  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 /bin/bash
 /sbin/yast2 root 30352 1  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 /bin/bash
 /sbin/yast2 sw_single 1000 30530 30501  0 12:29 pts/400:00:00 grep
 yast

 I have tried running yast2 from the command line and get the same thing,
 namely nothing.

 The rest of the YaST modules seem to work fine, its only the Software
 Management one that is borked.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The log file is /var/log/YaST2/y2log and it should contain a trace of what 
yast is up to, and hopefully some clues as to why it's failing

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Re: [opensuse] Hint: ZMD Eating CPU/Disc

2007-03-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Gordon Ross wrote:
 All I need to do now, is work out why ZMD takes so flipping long to
 install patches regardless of it's NICEness... (come back YaST, all is
 forgiven !)
   

I got thoroughly sick of this, and finally after having a couple of
beers one day I decided to just remove all the zmd-related packages and
see what happened.  On my next boot, a nice opensuseupdater icon
appeared where the zmd-updater one used to be, and my updates work much
better now.

So, my advice is to ditch zmd.  I can't see what the benefit is.

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Re: [opensuse] Microsoft ordered to pay Alcatel-Lucent $1.5 bln in patent case - MarketWatch

2007-03-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Russell Jones wrote:
 You misunderstand. If Vorbis v1.3 (say) infringes a (submarine or
 otherwise) patent, the next version, e.g. v2.0, will be changed such
 that it does not. You just won't be able to play v1.3 files on a v2.0
 player.

That seems like a serious disincentive to designing hardware around the
format, though.  People are going to be unhappy if they spend $300 a new
Yoyodyne Oggmaster music player and it doesn't play their old Ogg
files.  Or if the music player they bought a year ago suddenly can't
play new music.  I'd hate to be the tech support person who had to
explain that one.

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Re: [opensuse] Saving Wireless settings

2007-03-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Wednesday 07 March 2007 10:00:17 am Phil Savoie wrote:
   
 Hi All,

 How does one save security setting with a wireless device?
 First off, enable KWallet.  This is the tool which will store your passwords. 
 In my systems, KWallet is run with a blank password.

 When you login to your local network with the WEP or WPA password, then 
 KWallet should pick up your password and store it.

 You will then be able to re-login and should connect without a problem.
   

Another way to do it is to choose the traditional method with ifup
option in Yast's network device configuration module, instead of using
knetworkmanager.  Then you can set the password right there in Yast and
it will remember it.  If you need to store more than one configuration
for different sites (say, your house and a coffee shop) you can set up
multiple profiles with SCPM.  This has worked quite well for me, and I
travel around to a lot of different sites with different networks.  I
usually keep one profile for each network I frequent and one generic
hotspot one (DHCP, no encryption) for coffee shops and the like.

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Re: [opensuse] Recommended by Microsoft

2007-03-07 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 13:06, Peter Bradley wrote:
  The only
 Linux recommended by Microsoft.  Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?

 Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything
 that came recommended by Microsoft.
Well, what can we say... marketing is *not* one of Novell's strong 
suits... 
in fact they are pretty much *void* in the skillset...   sigh




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[opensuse] zypper fails update is one of the sources is unavailable?

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Goldstein

It happens to me quite often:

...# zypper up
Restoring system sources...
Please insert media [Curl error for:
http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/10.2/repodata/repomd.xml: Error code:
HTTP response: 500 Error message: The requested URL returned error:
500
] # 1. Retry [y/n]:
n
I/O error: Can't provide /repodata/repomd.xml from
http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/10.2
(A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore?
i
I/O error: Can't provide /repodata/repomd.xml from
http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/10.2
Failed to restore sources


In Yast online updater if some of the sources fails, I can chose
skip and continue with the rest of sources.
As seen from above log, even when I chose Ignore, zypper refuse to
continue. Is it a bug or am I missing something?

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Re: [opensuse] KDM login screen configuration

2007-03-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Tim Nicholson wrote:

al though I have a server with a number of user accounts with desktop
login disabled,  they still appear in the list of accounts at the KDM
login screen.

What I would really like is to be able to disable this list completely
so that no hint is given as to the valid users on the system.

Having trawled through yast I cannot see any way to do this, nor can I
find a KDM config file to tweak.

Any ideas anyone?
  

Hi Tim,

You can do that from the KDE Control Center (kcontrol)
System Administration - Login Manager
In the Users tab, theres a column with hidden users, check the ones 
that _shouldn't_ be shown at the KDM login screen.


I don't know the configuration file to do this in text mode though.

Best regards
Sylvester
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Re: [opensuse] Saving Wireless settings

2007-03-07 Thread Phil Savoie
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 13:19, Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Wednesday 07 March 2007 10:00:17 am Phil Savoie wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  How does one save security setting with a wireless device?  Seems that my
  nic always connects to the neighbours unsecured wireless router.  Every
  time I start up I have to go into yast and configure the security
  settings. It doesn't seem to save.
 
  Is there a way to save the settings?

 Yes - it is kind of hokey but this will work.  I had the same problems with
 my local network. I kept logging into my neighbors' networks.

 First off, enable KWallet.  This is the tool which will store your
 passwords. In my systems, KWallet is run with a blank password.

 When you login to your local network with the WEP or WPA password, then
 KWallet should pick up your password and store it.

 You will then be able to re-login and should connect without a problem.

 This worked for me on 10.1 until recently. For some reason - after a SMART
 update - I can no longer login with a password on my network. I tried a few
 things (see the emails KNetworkmanager Wierdness last week in the archives)
 but had no success.

 To get around it, I did a few things. I took off my password on my WiFi. I
 enabled MAC detection to only allow my laptops. I also disabled ESSID
 broadcasting, so I have to know what the WiFi network is.

 So far, I haven't had anybody login, and I don't expect to.

 --
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Thank you Kai!

Phil
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