[opensuse] Default umask for new users, where?

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Hi list,

- this is a short one...

- when I create a new user, the home-dir for that user is created with a umask 
of 022. I wish to use, say, 077. Where do I set that, so when creating yet 
another new user, his home-dir will have rwx --- --- (0700)??


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Re: [opensuse] Default umask for new users, where?

[Gaël Lams]

Hi,


- when I create a new user, the home-dir for that user is created with a umask
of 022. I wish to use, say, 077. Where do I set that, so when creating yet
another new user, his home-dir will have rwx --- --- (0700)??


in /etc/profile.local:
umask 077

Gaël

[opensuse] Colorized output, echo via xargs.

[Sylvester Lykkehus]

Hi,

Just playing around a bit with different colors in shell scripts, I've 
come across a problem colorings an output parsed through xargs.


I'm sure it's just a question of escaping the string correctly.

echo -e '\E32mTest'
Prints the word Test in green.

While
echo Test > test.txt
cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E32m{}'
prints \E32mTest

Any ideas ?
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Re: [opensuse] Colorized output, echo via xargs. (Typos corrected)

[Sylvester Lykkehus]

Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:

Hi,

Just playing around a bit with different colors in shell scripts, I've 
come across a problem colorings an output parsed through xargs.


I'm sure it's just a question of escaping the string correctly.

/echo -e '\E32mTest' /

echo -e '\E[32mTest'

Prints the word Test in green.

While
echo Test > test.txt
/cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E32m{}' /

cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E[32m{}'

prints \E32mTest

prints \E[32mTest


Any ideas ?

/Sylvester

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Re: [opensuse] Default umask for new users, where?

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Gaël Lams wrote:
>
>> - when I create a new user, the home-dir for that user is created
>> with a umask
>> of 022. I wish to use, say, 077. Where do I set that, so when
>> creating yet
>> another new user, his home-dir will have rwx --- --- (0700)??
>
> in /etc/profile.local:
> umask 077
Or even better, Yast, Security and Users, Expert Options, Default for
New User, Umask for Home Directory

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Re: [opensuse] Max filesize on NFS? 4G?

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The Monday 2007-03-12 at 21:04 -0700, Mike Noble wrote:

> > I'm surprised to be hit by the small file limit on NFS.  Is there some
> > specific parameter I need to support large files?
> >
> > The same command, run locally on the server, runs "fine" (>4GB ok), so
> > it definitely seems to be a NFS related problem.
> 
> 4 GB is the limit of a 32bit processor.

That's absurd. I'm using a 32 bit processor and I have files of 9 gigas, 
so having large files is not an intrinsic processor limitation.

Actually, if you look at the opensuse manual, «Table 17.2. Maximum Sizes 
of File Systems (On-Disk Format)» 

 
shows the large file support limits for NFS:

File System   File Size (Bytes)File System Size (Bytes)
- +---+
NFSv2 (client side) 2^31 (2 GiB) 2^63 (8 EiB)
NFSv3 (client side) 2^63 (8 EiB) 2^63 (8 EiB)


The kernel limit for 32 bit processors is  2TiB (2^41 bytes).


So, 4GiB is very far from the limit. Either there is some parameter needed 
somewhere, or there is a bug.


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Re: [opensuse] Default umask for new users, where?

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Tirsdag 13 marts 2007 10:38 skrev Joe Morris (NTM):
> Gaël Lams wrote:
> >> - when I create a new user, the home-dir for that user is created
> >> with a umask
> >> of 022. I wish to use, say, 077. Where do I set that, so when
> >> creating yet
> >> another new user, his home-dir will have rwx --- --- (0700)??
> >
> > in /etc/profile.local:
> > umask 077
>
> Or even better, Yast, Security and Users, Expert Options, Default for
> New User, Umask for Home Directory
>
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Thank you to all.

Yes, your answers concur with what I thought. Only, it only works for users 
local to the machine, i.e. they exist in /etc/passwd and so forth.
For users being authenticated - and hence auto created - by means of winbind 
and AD, it doesn't work. It's got to be somewhere else, perhaps on the AD 
machine (sigh..).

Well, I still learned from this, I didn't know about the YaST thing...

Thanks again!
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[opensuse] streaming music

[Phil Burness]

I have a linux server in my study (upstairs) it has about 160GB of music on 
it. (Love Amarok)
I have XP laptop downstairs (sound output connected to my amplifier).
I have a wireless connection between the two.

I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my 
amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study. 
Quite reasonable I think.
I've looked at shoutcast, icecast and streamtunes all of which seem to need a 
playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and choose from the 
XP machine.
Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?

Thanks
Phil
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Re: [opensuse] streaming music

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Tirsdag 13 marts 2007 12:21 skrev Phil Burness:
> I have a linux server in my study (upstairs) it has about 160GB of music on
> it. (Love Amarok)
> I have XP laptop downstairs (sound output connected to my amplifier).
> I have a wireless connection between the two.
>
> I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my
> amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study.
> Quite reasonable I think.
> I've looked at shoutcast, icecast and streamtunes all of which seem to need
> a playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and choose from
> the XP machine.
> Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?
>
> Thanks
> Phil

A wild shot; have you checked out vlc?
www.videolan.org
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[opensuse] Re: streaming music

[Craig Millar]

On 13/03/07 11:21 +, Phil Burness wrote:
> I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my 
> amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study. 
> Quite reasonable I think.
> I've looked at shoutcast, icecast and streamtunes all of which seem to need a 
> playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and choose from the 
> XP machine.
> Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?

Perhaps have a look at mpd (http://www.musicpd.org/), or setting up a samba
share.
hth
Craig

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Re: [opensuse] Re: streaming music

[Arie Reynaldi Z]

> I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my
> amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study.
> Quite reasonable I think.
> I've looked at shoutcast, icecast and streamtunes all of which seem to need a
> playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and choose from the
> XP machine.
> Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?

Perhaps have a look at mpd (http://www.musicpd.org/), or setting up a samba
share.
hth
Craig


I think using samba will do the job, you can play music directly from
XP machine without touching Linux desktop.

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Re: [opensuse] Max filesize on NFS? 4G?

[Teruel de Campo MD]

Guys,

The file size depends on the file system where it resides not of the
CPU. Of course up to a degree. I remember from my os/2 days creating tar
files of the whole system, I could do it in a JFS formatted partition
but not in a fat because of size limitations. 

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On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 22:31 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Monday 12 March 2007 22:18, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Monday 12 March 2007 21:04, Mike Noble wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > 4 GB is the limit of a 32bit processor.
> >
> > Not really.
> >
> > 4 x 2^32 is the limit of a 32-bit word (unsigned).
> 
> Duh...
> 
> 2^32 is the limit of an unsigned 32-bit word, of course.
> 
> 2^30 is a "binary billion", and four of those are 4 gigs.
> 
> 
> RRS

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Re: [opensuse] firewire drives & backups

[Dave Howorth]

Greg Freemyer wrote:
> Don't ignore eSata (external sata) for the same purpose.
> 
> (If you don't have an eSata connector you can get a Sata <--> eSata
> cable for $10 or $20, just be sure it is 300 Gbit/sec rated.)
> 
> Especially for Linux I believe the sata drivers are more actively
> maintained and have a much bigger user base than the firewire drivers.
> 
> Seagate for one has a couple of eSata 300 Gbit/sec drives.  They
> should be much faster than even firewire. (3x per the datasheet).
> 
> http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/esata_hard_drive/

Interesting. I see it comes with an eSATA PCI card but they don't list
Linux support or the chipset. Do you happen to know if the card is
supported by libata?

It's also curious that it only comes with a one-year warranty while the
drive itself would come with a five-year warranty.

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Re: [opensuse] Default umask for new users, where?

[Gaël Lams]

Hi,


Yes, your answers concur with what I thought. Only, it only works for users
local to the machine, i.e. they exist in /etc/passwd and so forth.
For users being authenticated - and hence auto created - by means of winbind
and AD, it doesn't work. It's got to be somewhere else, perhaps on the AD
machine (sigh..).


You probably should have say that it was not for local users ;-)

I don't use AD to authenticate my users and I never have had to
configure winbind but I immagine that winbind's configuration uses
pam, which is what I use with my ldap back-end. Probably all you have
to do is to modify /etc/pam.d/common-session so that when ldap/AD
users login the home directory is created with the right umask (see
below).

Regards,

Gaël
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> less /etc/pam.d/common-session
#
# /etc/pam.d/common-session - session-related modules common to all services

session requiredpam_limits.so
session requiredpam_unix2.so
session requiredpam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=077

[opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[jimmy Pierre]

Greetings,

Just wondering, our friends at Knoppix did it with v 5.1.1 and earlier
and with read/write on NTFS partitions now. Mandriva is shipping a
flash drive of 2GB for some tens of Euros. Has anybody attempted on
suse?

Later,

Jimmy Pierre
President
Novell Users International - France
www.nui.fr
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Re: [opensuse] Default umask for new users, where?

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Tirsdag 13 marts 2007 13:32 skrev Gaël Lams:
> Hi,
>
> > Yes, your answers concur with what I thought. Only, it only works for
> > users local to the machine, i.e. they exist in /etc/passwd and so forth.
> > For users being authenticated - and hence auto created - by means of
> > winbind and AD, it doesn't work. It's got to be somewhere else, perhaps
> > on the AD machine (sigh..).
>
> You probably should have say that it was not for local users ;-)
>
> I don't use AD to authenticate my users and I never have had to
> configure winbind but I immagine that winbind's configuration uses
> pam, which is what I use with my ldap back-end. Probably all you have
> to do is to modify /etc/pam.d/common-session so that when ldap/AD
> users login the home directory is created with the right umask (see
> below).
>
> Regards,
>
> Gaël
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> less /etc/pam.d/common-session
> #
> # /etc/pam.d/common-session - session-related modules common to all
> services
>
> session requiredpam_limits.so
> session requiredpam_unix2.so
> session requiredpam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=077

Hi Gaël and list,

- sorry for not mentioning it. I didn't realize, until later, that it's two 
very different things.
Your advice looks really good, I shall try it out. Thanks a lot!

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[opensuse] Where is the list administrator?

[Carlos E. R.]

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Hi,

We have bounces in the Spanish list, over a week. We have tried contacting 
the list admin (Henne), but we got no answer. Is he still on the job?


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Re: [opensuse] Max filesize on NFS? 4G?

[Geir A. Myrestrand]

Mike Noble wrote:

On Sunday 11 March 2007 18:36, Linda Walsh wrote:

I was just surprised by hitting a 4GB file limit on NFS -- am running
Suse 10.2 on client (currently running SuSE2.6.18.2-34-bigsmp),
and SuSE 9.3 (with vanilla 2.6.20) on server.

The target file system (xfs) supports large files.  I was running an
"xfsdump" |bzip2>remotefile

I'm surprised to be hit by the small file limit on NFS.  Is there some
specific parameter I need to support large files?

The same command, run locally on the server, runs "fine" (>4GB ok), so
it definitely seems to be a NFS related problem.

Ideas?  Help?

Thanks,
Linda


4 GB is the limit of a 32bit processor.

Mike


Looks more like she may be using NFSv2. Try NFSv3 instead. You specify 
it as a mount option.


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Re: [opensuse] Default umask for new users, where?(SOLVED)

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Tirsdag 13 marts 2007 13:57 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard:
> Tirsdag 13 marts 2007 13:32 skrev Gaël Lams:
> > Hi,
> >
[..]
> > session requiredpam_limits.so
> > session requiredpam_unix2.so
> > session requiredpam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=077
>
> Hi Gaël and list,
>
> - sorry for not mentioning it. I didn't realize, until later, that it's two
> very different things.
> Your advice looks really good, I shall try it out. Thanks a lot!
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Yep, that's it. 
Works just fine!

Only the /etc/common-session file contains a warning that states it is 
autogenerated from pam-config and thus will be overwritten (eventually). 
Well that's another matter I shall have to dig into. 

Again thanks a lot!

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Re: [opensuse] zmd mysteries

[Stanislav Visnovsky]

Dňa Št 8. Marec 2007 18:22 Paul Abrahams napísal:
> On Thursday 08 March 2007 7:40 am, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
> > > 2. Where can I find an overview of ZEN and its buddies?
> >
> > What kind of information are you looking for?
>
> What is ZEN?  What does it do?
>
> > > 3. What is the current relationship between ZEN and Yast?
> >
> > Still the same:
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Understanding_zmd
>
> That writeup (which I had seen before) is quite opaque.  It starts with the
> statement:
>
> This page will contain a little about the internal working of Zmd system.
>
> but it never says what the Zmd system is or does.  Then it goes on to ask
> questions without answering them:
>
> *  What happens when I add an yast source?

You add the source to libzypp database. If you also have 'Synchronize with 
ZENworks' selected, 'rug' will be used to add the source to ZMD as well.

>
> * What happens when I add a zmd?

I assume add a source to zmd. In this case, the source will be added to YaST 
(libzypp) after a while.

>
> * What are the resource eaters during normal operation?

The database refresh means a complete scan of all repositories from scratch. 
That's my understanding.

>
> * How to see debug information to know whats happening in my Zmd?

Watch /var/log/zmd-*. You can also get more details by 'rug set-prefs 
log-level debug'.

>
> I guess that a zmd and Zmd are two different things, judging by questions 2
> and 4, but that relationship is not explained, nor is it ever explained
> what a zmd is or how one obtains a useful collection of zmds.

I don't understand this :(

Stano
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[jdd]

pelibali wrote:


1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
of daily work. The system is SUSE 9.1...


my daughter stopped using such mice for that reason (and always on 
windows :-)


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

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The Tuesday 2007-03-13 at 14:25 +0100, pelibali wrote:

> but maybe
> the mouse background is also an important point. e.g. I use a pretty
> white and almost flat plate now, where sometimes I see my pointer
> shaking, without even touching the mouse. 

I guess that's the problem: the mouse has to transmitt that movement, 
wasting battery. Why it shakes in Linux, I have no idea... I don't know 
how it works internally, how it detects movement. You'd need to contact 
the developpers.

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Re: [opensuse] beryl-settings on SLED 10

[Matthias Hopf]

On Mar 09, 07 08:53:09 -0500, Abstract wrote:
> There is only one beryl tutorial I follow and that is the only one
> that seems "official" to me.  The others have completely messed up my
> system.
> 
> That can be found here
> 
> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_SuSE

In that case, please update the openSUSE wiki page about beryl.

CU

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Re: [opensuse] NVidia driver and acpi on 10.2

[Matthias Hopf]

On Mar 10, 07 21:26:55 -0800, Mike Noble wrote:
> I have tried installing the rpm's from SuSe and downloading the drivers from
> Nvidia, none of them have worked yet.  What I get is when it starts graphic
> mode, it just goes blank and the system is locked.  Basically it tells that 
> the driver can not be loaded.  
> If you find a way to get it to work, let me know.

Try loading the nvidia kernel module by hand (modprobe nvidia) before
switching to runlevel 5. If that helps, a workaround is pretty easy (add
"modprobe nvidia" to /etc/init.d/boot.local).

Matthias

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

pelibali wrote:
> In the case of my brother's laptop the USB ports are at the side
> where he uses the mouse (right side), but my Acer has ports only on
> the another, left side. Could that 15cm->40cm (~3x) make such decre-
> ase in the battery life(s)?
>   
That is the only thing that makes sense.  I would try using a usb
extension cable to locate the usb dongle on the same side as the mouse
and see.  I guess it would take a few weeks to figure out if it helped,
but electronically that is the only thing that makes sense.  Have you
tried swapping the dongle, perhaps it is underpowered or something.

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Re: [opensuse] graphics question

[Stevens]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 08:44, Matthias Hopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 08, 07 16:42:04 -0600, Stevens wrote:
> > I put 10.2 in an old Gateway P3/900MHz box that has an "ATI Rage 128
> > Pro Ultra TF" video card. It seems to work ok with mplayer and
> > DukeNukem and others. .
> >
> > glxgears reports "3249 frames in 5.0 seconds = 649.740 FPS" and the
> > animation is nice and smooth. When I run Google Earth the earth screen
> > really flashes and flickers  So, what's up with G.E.?
>
> Apparently GE doesn't get enough framebuffer memory for double
> buffering. Which isn't really strange, as GE needs a lot of textures and
> the ATI Rage 128 is a dead old card.
>
> > Can this be fixed using that graphics card?
>
> Try starting GE in a smaller window (not resizing later, that won't
> help). Also, there are (undocumented) the options "AGPSize" and
> "BufferSize" which you can try out. Both take some integer (MByte), and
> BufferSize has to be smaller than AGPSize. AGPSize can be a power of 2
> from 4 to 256. The rest you have to try out for yourself.
>
> Matthias

Matthias:

Thank you for your reply. I may try that later today to see if it works, 
but i just found an nVidia MX-400 pci card (it works) and will be 
installing it, as I know that the -400 card works well with those apps.

It has its own set of issues when the kernel is upgraded, but that is minor 
compared to the poor performance of the ATI card.

Thanks again,
Fred
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Re: [opensuse] graphics question

[Matthias Hopf]

On Mar 08, 07 16:42:04 -0600, Stevens wrote:
> I put 10.2 in an old Gateway P3/900MHz box that has an "ATI Rage 128 Pro 
> Ultra TF" video card. It seems to work ok with mplayer and DukeNukem and 
> others. .
> 
> glxgears reports "3249 frames in 5.0 seconds = 649.740 FPS" and the 
> animation is nice and smooth. When I run Google Earth the earth screen 
> really flashes and flickers  So, what's up with G.E.?

Apparently GE doesn't get enough framebuffer memory for double
buffering. Which isn't really strange, as GE needs a lot of textures and
the ATI Rage 128 is a dead old card.

> Can this be fixed using that graphics card? 

Try starting GE in a smaller window (not resizing later, that won't
help). Also, there are (undocumented) the options "AGPSize" and
"BufferSize" which you can try out. Both take some integer (MByte), and
BufferSize has to be smaller than AGPSize. AGPSize can be a power of 2
from 4 to 256. The rest you have to try out for yourself.

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RE: [opensuse] firewire drives & backups

[Jack Malone]

> >
> 
> I use this on my machines that have usb 1.1.
> However for machines that have usb2, you will find that usb is faster
> than firewire.
> 
> I backup using BRU, (paid - but worth the price) and it builds a
> compressed tar-like file directly on the target drive, rather than a
> file by file copy.  This allows me to stack several complete backups
> onto an external drive.  http://www.bru.com/
> 
> I have one unit that has both a firewire and usb2 port.  Either works
> fine, as long as I plug into a usb2 port on the computer.
> 
> I have another Western Digital "MyBook" which is usb2 only.
> These are really great drives by the way.  They use intelligent power
> on/power off, and work on windows or Linux.  Once my BRU backups
> exceeded 4gig I had to repartition the drive a smarter file system.  I
> just put Reiserfs on it because imho its faster than snot.

 Ok is this better on the quoteing Randall I found where it was at in
outlook 2007 an fixed it. 9 I'm forced to use outlook for now ). 

Thanks for the info John, I have a seatgate driver that I play with that is
usb an I think firewire , Might have to hook that up after my trip next week
an see what happens with it. I need to checkout Bru I have played with the
free version in the past with a tape drive. Thanks for the heads up on 4 gig
file size, My backup files size now is at 11 plus gigs an growing. I archive
every three months an do not do a backup nightly on the airchive stuff so I
can cut my files size down. 

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Re: [opensuse] streaming music

[Philippe Andersson]

Phil Burness wrote:
> I have a linux server in my study (upstairs) it has about 160GB of music on 
> it. (Love Amarok)
> I have XP laptop downstairs (sound output connected to my amplifier).
> I have a wireless connection between the two.
> 
> I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my 
> amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study. 
> Quite reasonable I think.
> I've looked at shoutcast, icecast and streamtunes all of which seem to need a 
> playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and choose from the 
> XP machine.
> Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?
On the server side, have a look at "Slimserver" (it's a GPL Perl script
with a powerful web interface):



On the client side, you could use "softsqueeze", a Java-based client for
Slimserver:



(Thanks, Frank ;-) ).

HTH

Cheers. Bye.

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Re: [opensuse] graphics question

[Matthias Hopf]

On Mar 13, 07 08:56:40 -0500, Stevens wrote:
> Thank you for your reply. I may try that later today to see if it works, 

Don't hold your breath. It's absolutely unsure whether you're hitting
configuration issues or even hardware limitations. Don't know whether it
is worth the hassle.

> but i just found an nVidia MX-400 pci card (it works) and will be 
> installing it, as I know that the -400 card works well with those apps.

This is probably the better idea :-)
About nobody is using Rage 128 any more, even Mach64 is better supported
(due to server mainboards).

> It has its own set of issues when the kernel is upgraded, but that is minor 
> compared to the poor performance of the ATI card.

Agreed.

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Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

[Dan Winship]

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 00:01 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> On 3/12/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > smbfs and cifs are file systems that allow your Linux box to
> > MOUNT a share published by a samab server or a windows
> > box.  (perhaps to do a backup or some such)
> 
> ahh .. ok, perfect.
> 
> So the appropriate comparison is NOT samba vs cifs, but rather smbfs
> vs cifs. Both are client protocols/virtual file system
> implementations.
> 
> So, from google reading, cifs was apparently microsofts addition to
> the original SMB file system spec ... and now, it is a somewhat newer
> vfs that can exist along side of or instead of smbfs. Theoretically it
> offers, newer/better/fancier services/access to remote SAMBA provided
> storage.
> 
> About right?

Yes and no. "SMB" was the original name, "CIFS" is Microsoft's later
re-branding of it, but MS was extending SMB long before they renamed it,
and there isn't really any useful distinction you can make between the
two names.

The distinction you *can* make is between "smbfs", which is an old,
unmaintained and partly-broken SMB/CIFS client kernel module for Linux,
and "cifs", which is a newer, actively-developed SMB/CIFS client kernel
module for Linux. The fact that one has "smb" in its name and the other
has "cifs" in its name isn't really all that relevant. The point is just
that they're two separate codebases, and SUSE used to ship smbfs, but
doesn't any more (because cifs is maintained and smbfs isn't, so bugs
reported against smbfs will never get fixed, while bugs against cifs
will).

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[opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[pelibali]

Hi,

I have a Fujitsu Siemens "Mini RF.Mouse" wireless mouse connected to
my laptop via its own USB dongle. First I used "normal" 1,5V AAA-type
batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
of daily work. The system is SUSE 9.1...

My question concerns the following: my brother uses the very same
type of mouse and his lasts on the Win* platform for 2-3 _months_
with daily 1-2 hrs of use. We tried to exchange mice, but they
behaviour the same, so likely no hardware is defected. How this huge
time difference is possible? We checked also the batteries, but maybe
the mouse background is also an important point. e.g. I use a pretty
white and almost flat plate now, where sometimes I see my pointer
shaking, without even touching the mouse. (This behaviour didn't
happen on the laptop of my brother, when using _my_ mouse &
background.)
In the case of my brother's laptop the USB ports are at the side
where he uses the mouse (right side), but my Acer has ports only on
the another, left side. Could that 15cm->40cm (~3x) make such decre-
ase in the battery life(s)?

Did anyone test the same mouse/battery combo on various SUSE rele-
ases? Was there some improvement visible? I would be interested
mainly in a comparison of 9.x and 10.x. The same question as arose
earlier, is anyone aware of a huge difference between Win* vs. SUSE?

Thanks for any comments/ideas to improve the lifetime of my batteries
and would also appreciate any weblink on this topic to have a general
idea, which kind of background would be the best, etc.

Thank you,
Pelibali
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Re: [opensuse] Colorized output, echo via xargs. (Typos corrected)

[James Wright]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 05:46, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
> Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just playing around a bit with different colors in shell scripts, I've
> > come across a problem colorings an output parsed through xargs.
> >
> > I'm sure it's just a question of escaping the string correctly.
> >
> > /echo -e '\E32mTest' /
>
> echo -e '\E[32mTest'
>
> > Prints the word Test in green.
> >
> > While
> > echo Test > test.txt
> > /cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E32m{}' /
>
> cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E[32m{}'
>
> > prints \E32mTest
>
> prints \E[32mTest
>
> > Any ideas ?
>
> /Sylvester

I don't know about xargs, but changing the color of the output of cat can be 
done like:

echo -e '\E[32m' < cat test.txt

Although I would imagine that there are better ways.

- James W.
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Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?

[Philipp Thomas]

* jdd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070311 13:01]:

> sorry if I seem silly, but how can any raid controller work without 
> any software? if not in user space nor kernel space; it must be 
> somewhere onboard?

That answer isn't that silly :) The hardware RAID controllers also need
software, but in the form of firmware onoard the controller, running on the
controllers (embedded) CPU.

This means that all operations are transparent to the OS, e.g. the OS only
sees the RAID device(s) and not the underlying drives.

Philipp

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

pelibali wrote:
> In the case of my brother's laptop the USB ports are at the side
> where he uses the mouse (right side), but my Acer has ports only on
> the another, left side. Could that 15cm->40cm (~3x) make such decre-
> ase in the battery life(s)?
>   
Also one other thought.  Are your laptop's usb ports full power, i.e
they put out 500mA?  Some laptop USB are underpowered.  I really do not
think this will be linux related at all.

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[opensuse] No microphone input

[Teemu Nikkilä]

Hi,

my laptop's (ThinkPad T41p, Intel 82801DB-ICH4) internal microphone stopped 
working for applications. I can't record anymore with krecord or Audacity, 
nor can I use Skype for talking. The hardware works since I can hear the 
micropone output from headphones or speakers and I can adjust the recording 
level with alsamixer.

I think I've seen other similar posts here not so long ago. Any ideas about 
what causes this (alsa update?), recording worked well for me not so long 
ago?

-Teemu

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Dave Howorth]

pelibali wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a Fujitsu Siemens "Mini RF.Mouse" wireless mouse connected to
> my laptop via its own USB dongle. First I used "normal" 1,5V AAA-type
> batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
> 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
> of daily work. The system is SUSE 9.1...
> 
> My question concerns the following: my brother uses the very same
> type of mouse and his lasts on the Win* platform for 2-3 _months_
> with daily 1-2 hrs of use. We tried to exchange mice, but they
> behaviour the same, so likely no hardware is defected. How this huge
> time difference is possible? We checked also the batteries, but maybe
> the mouse background is also an important point. e.g. I use a pretty
> white and almost flat plate now, where sometimes I see my pointer
> shaking, without even touching the mouse. (This behaviour didn't
> happen on the laptop of my brother, when using _my_ mouse &
> background.)
> In the case of my brother's laptop the USB ports are at the side
> where he uses the mouse (right side), but my Acer has ports only on
> the another, left side. Could that 15cm->40cm (~3x) make such decre-
> ase in the battery life(s)?

Did you try your brother's laptop with your mouse pad in the place where
you normally use your laptop? There's one other mechanism I can think of
that can cause mouse jitter. Some optical mice can be sensitive to
external light reflected by the mouse pad, typically from fluorescent
lights. I used to see this with old Sun mice. You could try using a
different mouse pad (e.g. dark neoprene) or changing the lighting to see
if it makes a difference.

But you definitely need to find out why your mouse is jittering and stop
it. As Carlos said, it's using power every time it jitters.

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] firewire drives & backups

[Greg Freemyer]

On 3/13/07, Dave Howorth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greg Freemyer wrote:
> Don't ignore eSata (external sata) for the same purpose.
>
> (If you don't have an eSata connector you can get a Sata <--> eSata
> cable for $10 or $20, just be sure it is 300 Gbit/sec rated.)
>
> Especially for Linux I believe the sata drivers are more actively
> maintained and have a much bigger user base than the firewire drivers.
>
> Seagate for one has a couple of eSata 300 Gbit/sec drives.  They
> should be much faster than even firewire. (3x per the datasheet).
>
> http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/esata_hard_drive/

Interesting. I see it comes with an eSATA PCI card but they don't list
Linux support or the chipset. Do you happen to know if the card is
supported by libata?

It's also curious that it only comes with a one-year warranty while the
drive itself would come with a five-year warranty.

Cheers, Dave


No idea.  I was just googling to make sure an eSata drive was readily
available before I recommended using one.

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[opensuse] kickoff and recently used applications

[Gianluca Cerminara]

Hello,
	at some point my kickoff menu stopped displaying recently used 
applications (I can only get recently used files...)
Do you know how to fix this?How does kickoff handles recently used 
applications?Which are the configuration files I should look for?

Thanks a lot,
G


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Re: [opensuse] firewire drives & backups

[Greg Freemyer]

On 3/13/07, Jack Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> >
>
> I use this on my machines that have usb 1.1.
> However for machines that have usb2, you will find that usb is faster
> than firewire.
>
> I backup using BRU, (paid - but worth the price) and it builds a
> compressed tar-like file directly on the target drive, rather than a
> file by file copy.  This allows me to stack several complete backups
> onto an external drive.  http://www.bru.com/
>
> I have one unit that has both a firewire and usb2 port.  Either works
> fine, as long as I plug into a usb2 port on the computer.
>
> I have another Western Digital "MyBook" which is usb2 only.
> These are really great drives by the way.  They use intelligent power
> on/power off, and work on windows or Linux.  Once my BRU backups
> exceeded 4gig I had to repartition the drive a smarter file system.  I
> just put Reiserfs on it because imho its faster than snot.

 Ok is this better on the quoteing Randall I found where it was at in
outlook 2007 an fixed it. 9 I'm forced to use outlook for now ).

Thanks for the info John, I have a seatgate driver that I play with that is
usb an I think firewire , Might have to hook that up after my trip next week
an see what happens with it. I need to checkout Bru I have played with the
free version in the past with a tape drive. Thanks for the heads up on 4 gig
file size, My backup files size now is at 11 plus gigs an growing. I archive
every three months an do not do a backup nightly on the airchive stuff so I
can cut my files size down.

Jack Malone


I've been using rdiff-backup for my online backups since last summer.
I've had only good luck and it can be used in both local mode and
client/server (wan or lan links).

The code is all python (iirc) so the clients run in most environments.
And the mailing list actively supports linux / mac / windows clients
(not sure about servers).

And it has been part of the Suse distro for several releases.

The way it works is to keep full copies of all the files being backed
up and then a series of deltas to get you to older versions.  The only
time it really falls down for me is if you rearrange your filesystem
structure, or even just rename a directory.  rdiff-backup will see it
as you having a whole bunch of new files that need backing up.

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Re: [opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[jdd]

jimmy Pierre wrote:

Greetings,

Just wondering, our friends at Knoppix did it with v 5.1.1 and earlier
and with read/write on NTFS partitions now. Mandriva is shipping a
flash drive of 2GB for some tens of Euros. Has anybody attempted on
suse?


there is a link somewhere on the wiki, but I couldn't make it boot - 
seems to depend on the hardware


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[opensuse] Direct2Dell - Dell's Blog

[jim tate]

Dell is taking a Linux survey, goto site below and post your opinion.
I know this not the proper place to post this, but I think all linux 
user should benefit from this.


http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/03/13/7985.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage 


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Re: [opensuse] Colorized output, echo via xargs.

[Randall R Schulz]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:42, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just playing around a bit with different colors in shell scripts,
> I've come across a problem colorings an output parsed through xargs.
>
> I'm sure it's just a question of escaping the string correctly.
>
> echo -e '\E32mTest'
> Prints the word Test in green.

Here you're invoking the shell's built-in echo command, which interprets 
\E:

% help echo
echo: echo [-neE] [arg ...]
Output the ARGs.  If -n is specified, the trailing newline is
suppressed.  If the -e option is given, interpretation of the
following backslash-escaped characters is turned on:
\a  alert (bell)
\b  backspace
\c  suppress trailing newline
\E  escape character
\f  form feed
\n  new line
\r  carriage return
\t  horizontal tab
\v  vertical tab
\\  backslash
\numthe character whose ASCII code is NUM (octal).

   You can explicitly turn off the interpretation of the above
   characters with the -E option.



> While
> echo Test > test.txt
> cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E32m{}'
> prints \E32mTest

In this case, you're running /bin/echo, which does not support quite the 
same set of escape characters:

% man echo
...
DESCRIPTION
   NOTE:  your  shell  may  have  its own version of echo which will
   supersede the version described here. Please refer to your
   shell's documentation for details about the
   options it supports.

   Echo the STRING(s) to standard output.

   -n do not output the trailing newline

   -e enable interpretation of backslash escapes

   -E disable interpretation of backslash escapes (default)

   --help display this help and exit

   --version
  output version information and exit

   If -e is in effect, the following sequences are recognized:

   \0NNN  the character whose ASCII code is NNN (octal)

   \\ backslash

   \a alert (BEL)

   \b backspace

   \c suppress trailing newline

   \f form feed

   \n new line

   \r carriage return

   \t horizontal tab

   \v vertical tab



> Any ideas ?


The above information should be enough to alliow you to correct the 
problem. That and the fact that ESC (escape) is octal 33 (this 
information is available via "man ascii").


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Re: [opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[Philip Mötteli]

Am 13.03.2007 um 14:05 schrieb jdd:


jimmy Pierre wrote:

Greetings,
Just wondering, our friends at Knoppix did it with v 5.1.1 and  
earlier

and with read/write on NTFS partitions now. Mandriva is shipping a
flash drive of 2GB for some tens of Euros. Has anybody attempted on
suse?


there is a link somewhere on the wiki, but I couldn't make it boot  
- seems to depend on the hardware


Didn't find that link. Could somebody help me out? Did look for  
"flashdrive" and "USB stick".



Thanks
Phil


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Re: [opensuse] Colorized output, echo via xargs.

[Sylvester Lykkehus]

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:42, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
  

echo -e '\E32mTest'
Prints the word Test in green.



Here you're invoking the shell's built-in echo command, which interprets 
\E:
  

While
echo Test > test.txt
cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E32m{}'
prints \E32mTest



In this case, you're running /bin/echo, which does not support quite the 
same set of escape characters:



  
The above information should be enough to alliow you to correct the 
problem. That and the fact that ESC (escape) is octal 33 (this 
information is available via "man ascii").



Randall Schulz
  

Aha!

So that means it should be e.g.
/bin/echo -e '\033[01;32mTest'

Great help, thank Randall.


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Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

[Kai Ponte]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 06:37:48 am Dan Winship wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 00:01 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> > On 3/12/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > smbfs and cifs are file systems that allow your Linux box to
> > > MOUNT a share published by a samab server or a windows
> > > box.  (perhaps to do a backup or some such)
> >
> > ahh .. ok, perfect.
> >
> > So the appropriate comparison is NOT samba vs cifs, but rather smbfs
> > vs cifs. Both are client protocols/virtual file system
> > implementations.
> >
> > So, from google reading, cifs was apparently microsofts addition to
> > the original SMB file system spec ... and now, it is a somewhat newer
> > vfs that can exist along side of or instead of smbfs. Theoretically it
> > offers, newer/better/fancier services/access to remote SAMBA provided
> > storage.
> >
> > About right?
>
> Yes and no. "SMB" was the original name, "CIFS" is Microsoft's later
> re-branding of it, but MS was extending SMB long before they renamed it,
> and there isn't really any useful distinction you can make between the
> two names.


Yes.

Here are some good articles on the subject for your refrence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block

http://samba.org/cifs/docs/smb-history.html

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-heizer-cifs-v1-spec-00

Basically we Linux users just need to get access 

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Re: [opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[jdd]

Philip Mötteli wrote:


Am 13.03.2007 um 14:05 schrieb jdd:


jimmy Pierre wrote:

Greetings,
Just wondering, our friends at Knoppix did it with v 5.1.1 and earlier
and with read/write on NTFS partitions now. Mandriva is shipping a
flash drive of 2GB for some tens of Euros. Has anybody attempted on
suse?


there is a link somewhere on the wiki, but I couldn't make it boot - 
seems to depend on the hardware


Didn't find that link. Could somebody help me out? Did look for 
"flashdrive" and "USB stick".


may be?

http://en.opensuse.org/SuSE_install_from_USB_drive

jdd


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[opensuse] screensaver in gnome.

[Carlos E. R.]

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Hi,

I had it working somehow, but it broke two or three days ago.

I have the screen saver popping up after about 15 minutes inactivity; but 
I want the monitor to go blank, dpms mode, after, say, 5 minutes more. I 
don't see where to configure this, there is no setting in the screensaver 
control.

How do I do it?

It used to be possible a year or two ago.


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Re: [opensuse] Colorized output, echo via xargs.

[Dr. Werner Fink]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 05:00:18PM +0100, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> >On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:42, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
> >  
> >>echo -e '\E32mTest'
> >>Prints the word Test in green.
> >>
> >
> >Here you're invoking the shell's built-in echo command, which interprets 
> >\E:
> >  
> >>While
> >>echo Test > test.txt
> >>cat test.txt | xargs -i echo -e '\E32m{}'
> >>prints \E32mTest
> >>
> >
> >In this case, you're running /bin/echo, which does not support quite the 
> >same set of escape characters:
> >
> >
> >  
> >The above information should be enough to alliow you to correct the 
> >problem. That and the fact that ESC (escape) is octal 33 (this 
> >information is available via "man ascii").
> >
> >
> >Randall Schulz
> >  
> Aha!
> 
> So that means it should be e.g.
> /bin/echo -e '\033[01;32mTest'

Better use

  green="$(tput setaf 2 2>/dev/null)"
  norm="$(tput sgr0 2>/dev/null)"
  echo "${green}Test${norm}"

simply to get it green even if the terminal
does not know about ANSI sequencies or use
other sequencies.


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Re: [opensuse] screensaver in gnome.

[Rodrigo Moya]

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:06 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had it working somehow, but it broke two or three days ago.
> 
> I have the screen saver popping up after about 15 minutes inactivity; but 
> I want the monitor to go blank, dpms mode, after, say, 5 minutes more. I 
> don't see where to configure this, there is no setting in the screensaver 
> control.
> 
> How do I do it?
> 
> It used to be possible a year or two ago.
> 
use gnome-power-manager preferences applet. It is a bit confusing, and
upstream is working on having this fixed for next GNOME release (2.20)
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Re: [opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 16:46 +0100, Philip Mötteli wrote: 
> Am 13.03.2007 um 14:05 schrieb jdd:
> 
> > jimmy Pierre wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >> Just wondering, our friends at Knoppix did it with v 5.1.1 and  
> >> earlier
> >> and with read/write on NTFS partitions now. Mandriva is shipping a
> >> flash drive of 2GB for some tens of Euros. Has anybody attempted on
> >> suse?
> >
> > there is a link somewhere on the wiki, but I couldn't make it boot  
> > - seems to depend on the hardware
> 
> Didn't find that link. Could somebody help me out? Did look for  
> "flashdrive" and "USB stick".

On a similar topic, does anyone have a vmware image for OpenSUSE 10.2? I
would settle for an autoyast file that selects a decent subset that I
can then install myself. Anyone seen such a thing?

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Re: [opensuse] streaming music

[Damon Register]

Phil Burness wrote:
I have a linux server in my study (upstairs) it has about 160GB of music on 
it. (Love Amarok)

I am learning to like it too


I have XP laptop downstairs (sound output connected to my amplifier).
I have a wireless connection between the two.

I have a very similar setup except that mine is wired.

I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my 
amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study. 

That's exactly what I do (except the server happens to be Solaris 10).

playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and choose from the 
XP machine.

Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?

I am a little confused with the answers you have received so far.  I
could be wrong but I think you really don't want/need to stream.  I
believe that all you really need to do is just serve the files from
the Linux box and map net drive from the XP box then you can just
use any player you want (mine favorite is Winamp).  You will have
complete choice over your player and playlist.  I use Samba on the
server (Solaris) box and just use map network drive on the XP box.

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Damon Register]

pelibali wrote:

batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs

I am using a Logitech trackball wireless mouse on my PC tower and a
wired version on my son's notebook PC.  The battery in the wireless
seems to last about 3 to 6 months.

Is your mouse optical?

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Re: [opensuse] Shorewall

[Jon Clausen]

On Mon, 12 Mar, 2007 at 20:46:19 -0700, Mike Noble wrote:
> On Monday 12 March 2007 19:21, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Monday 12 March 2007, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> > > Tue, 06 Mar 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> > > > Since I'm no rpm expert either I'm not going to 'publish' said rpms, as
> > > > they probably contain packaging errors. Still, if someone wants to
> > > > check them out, contact me privately.
> > >
> > > Very late, but nevertheless: the rpms on the shorewall.net site
> > > integrate perfectly in SUSE afaik, no need to make them yourself.
> > >  > >noarch.rpm>
> >
> > I conure.  The shorewall rpms work fine, and even the init script works
> > great.

hmmm... maybe that's the reason the rebuild went so smooth... Maybe I should
have tried just installing the rpm first... :P

oh well... it gave me a little more experience with spec files :)

> > Suse would be better off spending the time they spend on Suse Firewall on a
> > yast interface for configuring shorewall. 

I didn't say this out loud, but... I agree, and coupled with this;

> You can install webmin and you will have a graphical interface for 
> configuring Shorewall.

If the Webmin team can do it, then certainly SUSE should be able to.

Maybe submit it as a wish in bugzilla?

/Jon

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Re: [opensuse] No microphone input

[Daniel Feiglin]

Hi!

I was one of the "culprits" from an earlier post on this. I use 10.2 + KDE.

I found that some of the default kmix settings were wrong:

On the Switches tab of the kmix dialog, set Line-in Mode to Line-In and
Mic-In mode to Mic-In.

On the Input tab, make sure that Mic (little red LED style button,
bottom right) is enabled.

That got Skype going for me.

Regards,

Daniel



Teemu Nikkilä wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my laptop's (ThinkPad T41p, Intel 82801DB-ICH4) internal microphone stopped 
> working for applications. I can't record anymore with krecord or Audacity, 
> nor can I use Skype for talking. The hardware works since I can hear the 
> micropone output from headphones or speakers and I can adjust the recording 
> level with alsamixer.
>
> I think I've seen other similar posts here not so long ago. Any ideas about 
> what causes this (alsa update?), recording worked well for me not so long 
> ago?
>
> -Teemu
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[opensuse] Remote install/upgrade of SUSE (updated)

[Matthew Stringer]

Hi,

I asked about how to do this a few weeks ago.

I got sent a useful HOWTO cheers.

But I've run into a bit of trouble that makes little sense.

I've several machines all 'white boxes' all kinds of motherboards etc.

some of them are Intel P4 based and others AMD Athlon.

If I go through the motions of getting it to install it's fine, once YaST has 
finished doing its' thing and reboots if it's an Intel based machine then 
fine it reboots and everything is fine.

However if it's an AMD machine then it won't restart, doesn't give an error 
just hangs. No GRUB error or anything.

I've been told that sometimes it doesn't quite install grub correctly so 
before I click reboot in YaST I ssh in again using another terminal

create a mountpoint /x

and mount the disks.

I then manually install grub using:

chroot /x

grub

root (hd0,1)

setup (hd0,1)

Which reports that grub is installed.

However it makes no sense, I've tried blanking the MBR record and then 
installing GRUB but it makes no difference the machines always just die after 
POST.

I've killed 4 machines now and have a 600 Mile round trip to go n fix them.

I suppose it's just as well that this is not a commercial platform!!

Can anyone explain what the deal is with this, If I install SUSE using a CD it 
always works so why is this any different and why would it matter that it's 
AMD?

Confused.

Matthew

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[opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[Tim Hempstead]

Hi,

I am having performance issues with my file server running SUSE Linux
10.0 (64bit on an Athlon64).  The systems data disks consist of 4
200GB Samsung SATA drives on separate onboard ports on the motherboard
which are then configured together as md0 using Linux software raid5
(giving 600GB usable).  This is then added to a LVM volume group and
has several logiccal volumes and filesystems created on it

Bonnie output (using a 2GB file on one of the LVM filesystems housed
on md0) is as follows:

belgarath:/data02 # bonnie -s 2000
Bonnie 1.4: File './Bonnie.8151', size: 2097152000, volumes: 1
Writing with putc()... done:  46912 kB/s  75.1 %CPU
Rewriting...   done:  19625 kB/s  12.4 %CPU
Writing intelligently...   done:  47675 kB/s  25.8 %CPU
Reading with getc()... done:  27555 kB/s  51.3 %CPU
Reading intelligently...   done:  46055 kB/s  15.3 %CPU
Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done...
 ---Sequential Output (nosync)--- ---Sequential Input-- --Rnd Seek-
 -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --04k (03)-
MachineMB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU   /sec %CPU
belgar 1*2000 46912 75.1 47675 25.8 19625 12.4 27555 51.3 46055 15.3  265.3  2.3

The system is connected to a Netgear gigabit switch using cat6 or
cat5e (tried both) via a PCI Netgear GA302T Gigabit card.   Ethtool
reports that the card is connected at 1000FD and no network errors are
shown.  I think that the Netgear card uses the tg3 driver

The Windows box is connected to the same gigabit switch using a 3com
3C2000 gigabit card and has a single local SATAII disk.  The network
card reports is is connected at 1000FD.

Accessing the system via samba from a Windows XP box seems quite slow
as does accessing it via SFTP, (a sustained SFTP transfer using
Filezilla peaked at 310kb/s  a 670MB iso image has just taken 35+
minutes to transfer across between them).

Tests were performed when both the systems and the network were quiet
and are reproducable both using other systems and copy files from
non-raided disks on the Linux box.

Has anyone got any suggestions on where the bottleneck may be and what
I could possibly do to improve matters.  From the Bonnie figures I am
guessing the issue is more likely to lie on the networking side rather
than the disk side?

Cheers

Tim


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Re: [opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[Sunny]

On 3/13/07, Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On a similar topic, does anyone have a vmware image for OpenSUSE 10.2? I
would settle for an autoyast file that selects a decent subset that I
can then install myself. Anyone seen such a thing?



Search for vmware on this page (the image is Gnome based):



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[opensuse] mod_userdir directory listings not working

[Paul Nowosielski]

Dear All,

I'm trying to get directory listings working in Suse 10.2,apache2  with 
mod_userdir.

But when I call the directory I get a 404 error.

in the logs I see 

[Tue Mar 13 11:56:19 2007] [error] [client 192.168.45.252] Attempt to serve 
directory: /home/jreitsma/public_html/


My apache config is like so:



UserDir public_html

#
# Control access to UserDir directories.  The following is an example
# for a site where these directories are restricted to read-only.
#

AllowOverride All
Options +Indexes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



If a place an index.html file in the public_html folder it works as expected.


Any ideas to solve this??

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Re: [opensuse] Rug problem...

[Stanislav Visnovsky]

Dne sobota 10 březen 2007 11:14 Anders Norrbring napsal(a):
> Now what do I do about this? I'm trying to add a installation source, by
> running 'rug sa', and I get this:
>
> ERROR: Could not add
> 'ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/suse/suse/update/10.2': Failed to
> parse XML metadata: A null value was found where an object instance was
> required.

File a bug report?

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Re: [opensuse] screensaver in gnome.

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Tuesday 2007-03-13 at 17:28 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote:

> > don't see where to configure this, there is no setting in the screensaver 
> > control.
> > 
> > How do I do it?
> > 
> > It used to be possible a year or two ago.
> > 
> use gnome-power-manager preferences applet. It is a bit confusing, and
> upstream is working on having this fixed for next GNOME release (2.20)

Yes, I found that per chance a while ago. It is indeed confusing.

Now, I wonder how it self-configured to 45 minutes on "his" own... :-o

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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Tim Hempstead wrote:
> Accessing the system via samba from a Windows XP box seems quite slow
> as does accessing it via SFTP, (a sustained SFTP transfer using
> Filezilla peaked at 310kb/s  a 670MB iso image has just taken 35+
> minutes to transfer across between them).

Doesn't sftp require encrypting the file for sending?
Samba should outperform sftp.

> From the Bonnie figures I am
> guessing the issue is more likely to lie on the networking side rather
> than the disk side?

Ipv6 turned off?

You are getting less than 100megabit Cat5 performance.

I just copied a 350meg iso across 100mbit network via samba in under 10 
minutes.
It pegged my linux nic at 7.4 meg for the duration according to gkrellm.

So i would put that file on flat disk space (no raid) and
copy it with samba to see if the problem is in the disk
or the network.  You definitely want to get sftp out of the picture.

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[opensuse] remote install of suse 10.0

[James D. Parra]

Hello,

I copied the DVD contents of Suse 10.0 onto a server share. The 64 bit
version should be there as well . From a remote machine, which only
has a cd drive, I use the Suse 10 CD to begin the install, however it the
installer notifies me that I am installing a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit system.
Afterwards, it loads the kernel although I purposely crash out of it and
restart the install from the ncurses screen, first loading the nic module,
then selecting Start Installation and pointing to the network share. My two
question are; is the installer loading the 64 bit kernel or the 32 bit? And,
if it is loading the 32 bit kernel, how can I have it install the 64 bit
kernel remotely?

Thank you,

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Re: [opensuse] No microphone input

[Gabriel .]

Hi,

I have the problem in my Dell XPS M1210.Could anybody help me.?

thanks a lot.

On 3/13/07, Daniel Feiglin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi!

I was one of the "culprits" from an earlier post on this. I use 10.2 + KDE.

I found that some of the default kmix settings were wrong:

On the Switches tab of the kmix dialog, set Line-in Mode to Line-In and
Mic-In mode to Mic-In.

On the Input tab, make sure that Mic (little red LED style button,
bottom right) is enabled.

That got Skype going for me.

Regards,

Daniel



Teemu Nikkilä wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my laptop's (ThinkPad T41p, Intel 82801DB-ICH4) internal microphone
stopped
> working for applications. I can't record anymore with krecord or Audacity,
> nor can I use Skype for talking. The hardware works since I can hear the
> micropone output from headphones or speakers and I can adjust the
recording
> level with alsamixer.
>
> I think I've seen other similar posts here not so long ago. Any ideas
about
> what causes this (alsa update?), recording worked well for me not so long
> ago?
>
> -Teemu
>
>




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Re: [opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[Richard Bos]

Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 17:22, schreef Roger Oberholtzer:
> On a similar topic, does anyone have a vmware image for OpenSUSE 10.2? I
> would settle for an autoyast file that selects a decent subset that I
> can then install myself. Anyone seen such a thing?

http://developer.kde.org/~binner/vmware/


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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[Anders Johansson]

Am Dienstag, den 13.03.2007, 09:50 -0900 schrieb John Andersen:
> I just copied a 350meg iso across 100mbit network via samba in under 10 
> minutes.
> It pegged my linux nic at 7.4 meg for the duration according to gkrellm.

I normally see 10M traffic in gkrellm when I copy stuff to and from my
nfs server

> So i would put that file on flat disk space (no raid) and
> copy it with samba to see if the problem is in the disk
> or the network.  You definitely want to get sftp out of the picture.

Two comments to this: first of all, it would have exactly no effect on
the data seen in e.g. gkrellm (unless you have very slow cpus), since it
measures bits on the wire, not data received by the application

Secondly, don't be so quick to discount ssh file transfers. It is heavy
on the cpu, but it can even be quicker than plaintext to transfer data
if the cpu can keep up. The encryption also does some level of
compression, and I haven't been disappointed by the performance so far

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[peter nikolic]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007, pelibali wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Fujitsu Siemens "Mini RF.Mouse" wireless mouse connected to
> my laptop via its own USB dongle. First I used "normal" 1,5V AAA-type
> batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
> 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
> of daily work. The system is SUSE 9.1...
>
> My question concerns the following: my brother uses the very same
> type of mouse and his lasts on the Win* platform for 2-3 _months_
> with daily 1-2 hrs of use. We tried to exchange mice, but they
> behaviour the same, so likely no hardware is defected. How this huge
> time difference is possible? We checked also the batteries, but maybe
> the mouse background is also an important point. e.g. I use a pretty
> white and almost flat plate now, where sometimes I see my pointer
> shaking, without even touching the mouse. (This behaviour didn't
> happen on the laptop of my brother, when using _my_ mouse &
> background.)
> In the case of my brother's laptop the USB ports are at the side
> where he uses the mouse (right side), but my Acer has ports only on
> the another, left side. Could that 15cm->40cm (~3x) make such decre-
> ase in the battery life(s)?
>
> Did anyone test the same mouse/battery combo on various SUSE rele-
> ases? Was there some improvement visible? I would be interested
> mainly in a comparison of 9.x and 10.x. The same question as arose
> earlier, is anyone aware of a huge difference between Win* vs. SUSE?
>
> Thanks for any comments/ideas to improve the lifetime of my batteries
> and would also appreciate any weblink on this topic to have a general
> idea, which kind of background would be the best, etc.
>
> Thank you,
> Pelibali

does this mouse require the rf dongle to be clipped under the mouse when not 
in use   as it does on the Logitech i have that is almost a year old and 
still on the same pair of  AA cles i installed when it was given to me  last 
year i use it every day  on my laptop running suse 10.2  and most 
evenings   ..

Pete .


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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Anders Johansson wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 13.03.2007, 09:50 -0900 schrieb John Andersen:
> > I just copied a 350meg iso across 100mbit network via samba in under 10
> > minutes.
> > It pegged my linux nic at 7.4 meg for the duration according to gkrellm.
>
> I normally see 10M traffic in gkrellm when I copy stuff to and from my
> nfs server

All the more reason to suspect the OP has network problems.

But I have slow disks. Perhaps thats why 7.4 was the fastest
my gkrellm showed.  Heck, one of my machines was an ancient dual celeron
and I still was faster than his reported results.

And my switch, while saying 10/100 on the front
can not necessarily sustain that packet forwarding rate
for long durations.  You'd be amazed (or perhaps you wouldn't)
how often a supposedly 100meg switch can not actually manage
that transfer rate for more than a brief periods.

> > So i would put that file on flat disk space (no raid) and
> > copy it with samba to see if the problem is in the disk
> > or the network.  You definitely want to get sftp out of the picture.
>
> Two comments to this: first of all, it would have exactly no effect on
> the data seen in e.g. gkrellm (unless you have very slow cpus), since it
> measures bits on the wire, not data received by the application

Not sure what that has to do with it.  I timed this movement by my
watch, not gkrellm.  

> Secondly, don't be so quick to discount ssh file transfers. It is heavy
> on the cpu, but it can even be quicker than plaintext to transfer data
> if the cpu can keep up. The encryption also does some level of
> compression, and I haven't been disappointed by the performance so far

How much compression would you expect on an iso? 

Have you tried to move a 650meg iso across nfs, and then do the
same move across ssh from and to the same source/destination?

I think you will find that on local networks where nothing is less
than 100meg that ssh is quite a bit slower than a well tuned
nfs.

Samba is supposedly not as fast as nfs, but I've found it
still is pretty swift compared to ssh transfers.


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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007, peter nikolic wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007, pelibali wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Fujitsu Siemens "Mini RF.Mouse" wireless mouse connected to
> > my laptop via its own USB dongle. First I used "normal" 1,5V AAA-type
> > batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
> > 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
> > of daily work. The system is SUSE 9.1...

snip... 

>
> does this mouse require the rf dongle to be clipped under the mouse when
> not in use   as it does on the Logitech i have that is almost a year old
> and still on the same pair of  AA cles i installed when it was given to me 
> last year i use it every day  on my laptop running suse 10.2  and most
> evenings   ..
>

The point of the clipping that Peter mentions is that this
often turns off the mouse for travel.  Other mice have switches.

Since the OP has a laptop, I wonder if he dumps the mouse
in the bag with the computer only to have its buttons depressed
constantly while in the bag, wasting battery?

I have a wireless targus mouse sitting here that had that problem.


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Re: [opensuse] Shorewall (was; Re: [opensuse] Martin Glötzl-Koch STOP BOUNCING LIST MAIL)

[Cristian Rodriguez R.]

John Andersen escribió:

>>>
>>> Since I'm no rpm expert either I'm not going to 'publish' said rpms, as they
>>> probably contain packaging errors. Still, if someone wants to check them
>>> out, contact me privately.

I can create those rpms, in fact I should ;P

> Suse would be better off spending the time they spend on Suse Firewall on a 
> yast interface for configuring shorewall.  As it stands you actually have to 
> have
> "advanced skills" like reading a web page and actually typing with fingers
> applied to keyboard !!! into a text file in order to get shorewall up.  Oh 
> The Horror of it all!!!
> 

It aint a trivial task, it can get quite complicated, just take my word
on it ;)



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Re: [opensuse] Remote install/upgrade of SUSE (updated)

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 12:31, Matthew Stringer wrote:
> Can anyone explain what the deal is with this, If I install SUSE using a CD
> it always works so why is this any different and why would it matter that
> it's AMD?
>
> Confused.
Have you tried turning ACPI off?  



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Re: [opensuse] streaming music

[Phil Burness]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 14:01:42 Philippe Andersson wrote:
> Phil Burness wrote:
> > I have a linux server in my study (upstairs) it has about 160GB of music
> > on it. (Love Amarok)
> > I have XP laptop downstairs (sound output connected to my amplifier).
> > I have a wireless connection between the two.
> >
> > I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my
> > amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study.
> > Quite reasonable I think.
> > I've looked at shoutcast, icecast and streamtunes all of which seem to
> > need a playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and
> > choose from the XP machine.
> > Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?
>
> On the server side, have a look at "Slimserver" (it's a GPL Perl script
> with a powerful web interface):
>
> 
>
> On the client side, you could use "softsqueeze", a Java-based client for
> Slimserver:
>
> 
>
> (Thanks, Frank ;-) ).
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers. Bye.
>
> Ph. A.
This seems like a good solution, but damned if I can get the client to connect 
to the server. I can get iTunes to connect to it though so I'm assuming there 
is a problem in the softsqueeze client somewhere.

Couple of other points
o Can't get the slimserver toscan my music files - it adds them if I manually 
go to a directory and view the files
o Can't get iTunes to play a song unless I add it to the playlist in the 
slimserver web interface, so I have to walk upstairs to change the 
playlist :-(

Thanks for the pointers though.

Phil

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Re: [opensuse] remote install of suse 10.0

[Sunny]

On 3/13/07, James D. Parra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I copied the DVD contents of Suse 10.0 onto a server share. The 64 bit
version should be there as well . From a remote machine, which only
has a cd drive, I use the Suse 10 CD to begin the install, however it the
installer notifies me that I am installing a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit system.
Afterwards, it loads the kernel although I purposely crash out of it and
restart the install from the ncurses screen, first loading the nic module,
then selecting Start Installation and pointing to the network share. My two
question are; is the installer loading the 64 bit kernel or the 32 bit? And,
if it is loading the 32 bit kernel, how can I have it install the 64 bit
kernel remotely?

Thank you,

~James



I have used in the past the boot.iso for 9.3. You boot with it, and
then select the netwrok install, etc. Then it loads the 10.0 install
kernel, and you are all done.

You can find the 9.3. boot cd (only 58M) here (or check any mirror:


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Re: [opensuse] streaming music

[Phil Burness]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 16:39:24 Damon Register wrote:
> Phil Burness wrote:
> > I have a linux server in my study (upstairs) it has about 160GB of music
> > on it. (Love Amarok)
>
> I am learning to like it too
>
> > I have XP laptop downstairs (sound output connected to my amplifier).
> > I have a wireless connection between the two.
>
> I have a very similar setup except that mine is wired.
>
> > I want to play the music on my Linux box via my XP machine through my
> > amplifier downstairs when I'm not working in the study.
>
> That's exactly what I do (except the server happens to be Solaris 10).
>
> > playlist configuring on the server, while I want to pick and choose from
> > the XP machine.
> > Can anybody recommend an easy way to do this?
>
> I am a little confused with the answers you have received so far.  I
> could be wrong but I think you really don't want/need to stream.  I
> believe that all you really need to do is just serve the files from
> the Linux box and map net drive from the XP box then you can just
> use any player you want (mine favorite is Winamp).  You will have
> complete choice over your player and playlist.  I use Samba on the
> server (Solaris) box and just use map network drive on the XP box.
>
> Damon Register

Tried this and this works well. I'll probably use this going forward but it's 
a bit lo-tech ;-)

I think I've been spoilt with Amarok.

Phil
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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[Sunny]

On 3/13/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I think you will find that on local networks where nothing is less
than 100meg that ssh is quite a bit slower than a well tuned
nfs.



As you said the magic word "well tuned nfs" ... :)

Please, define well-tuned. Or direct me to a very nice tutorial for
this. I found a bunch all over the place, and I have very bad
experience with the nfs performance while writing to nfs volumes. Very
often it stops the transfer for some seconds, konqeror reporting
"Stall" and then resumes. The last part of the file usually takes
along time, etc. These observations are made using konqueror, midnight
commander, and pure cp from commandline. Sometimes even the overall
responsivness of the machine is lost (and this is 3400+ amd with 2G).

The files in question are usually more than 300M, and they start
pretty well, but after the first 50-70 MB it starts to stall. I found
out that using sftp takes about the same amount of time, but does not
hog the mouse movement or window switching, as nfs write does.

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RE: [opensuse] Suse on a flash drive anybody?

[Jimmy Pierre (Gmail)]

Maybe I am not good at Google, but found many distros on USB drives and not
Suse.

Any idea if this has been successful before.

Cheers,
Jimmy

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[opensuse] No microphone input

[jpff]

I am another one who was having trouble with microphone input; well 
actually i am still having problems.  This is on a Thinkpad X40; I can 
hear input from the mic in the headphones, and with mic boost I can hear 
the feedback.  Audacity does not give any input from recording.  Last time 
I tried arecord that was silent as well.

So I have not found the solution.  btw I do not use KDE or gnome; this is 
X and fvwm2, used mainly in commandline form with alsamixer.

Original interest was in VOIP; it did work in SuSE9.2 but not since 10.2

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[opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[Tim Hempstead]

John,

Ok, I've tested again with both samba and SFTP.  Samba is
significantly quicker than SFTP with the iso file copying in ~5-6
minutes instead of the 35+ being shown by SFTP.  But looking at top
whilst the processes are running the system is doing virtually nothing
during both transfers, (both smbd and sshd during the respective
transfers are peaking at <5% CPU usage, (the system has an Athlon64
3400+ (like Sunny ;) )).  At the Windows end the system was running at
about 40% system utilization according to Process Explorer.

Running the transfer on plain disk instead of off of the Raid array
does not seem to make much of a difference in the transfer rates.


From what I can see ipv6 is enabled on the server, (there appears to

be a field with an ipv6 address in it in the ifconfig output).  Would
this make much of a difference in performance?


Tim


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On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Tim Hempstead wrote:
> Accessing the system via samba from a Windows XP box seems quite slow
> as does accessing it via SFTP, (a sustained SFTP transfer using
> Filezilla peaked at 310kb/s  a 670MB iso image has just taken 35+
> minutes to transfer across between them).

Doesn't sftp require encrypting the file for sending?
Samba should outperform sftp.

>From the Bonnie figures I am
> guessing the issue is more likely to lie on the networking side rather
> than the disk side?

Ipv6 turned off?

You are getting less than 100megabit Cat5 performance.

I just copied a 350meg iso across 100mbit network via samba in under 10
minutes.
It pegged my linux nic at 7.4 meg for the duration according to gkrellm.

So i would put that file on flat disk space (no raid) and
copy it with samba to see if the problem is in the disk
or the network.  You definitely want to get sftp out of the picture.

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Doug McGarrett]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 09:25, pelibali wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Fujitsu Siemens "Mini RF.Mouse" wireless mouse connected to
> my laptop via its own USB dongle. First I used "normal" 1,5V AAA-type
> batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
> 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
> of daily work. The system is SUSE 9.1...
>
> My question concerns the following: my brother uses the very same
> type of mouse and his lasts on the Win* platform for 2-3 _months_
> with daily 1-2 hrs of use. We tried to exchange mice, but they
> behaviour the same, so likely no hardware is defected. How this huge
> time difference is possible? We checked also the batteries, but maybe
> the mouse background is also an important point. e.g. I use a pretty
> white and almost flat plate now, where sometimes I see my pointer
> shaking, without even touching the mouse. (This behaviour didn't
> happen on the laptop of my brother, when using _my_ mouse &
> background.)
> In the case of my brother's laptop the USB ports are at the side
> where he uses the mouse (right side), but my Acer has ports only on
> the another, left side. Could that 15cm->40cm (~3x) make such decre-
> ase in the battery life(s)?
>
> Did anyone test the same mouse/battery combo on various SUSE rele-
> ases? Was there some improvement visible? I would be interested
> mainly in a comparison of 9.x and 10.x. The same question as arose
> earlier, is anyone aware of a huge difference between Win* vs. SUSE?
>
> Thanks for any comments/ideas to improve the lifetime of my batteries
> and would also appreciate any weblink on this topic to have a general
> idea, which kind of background would be the best, etc.
>
> Thank you,
> Pelibali

I'm not sure the background has any effect, but you could easily test that--
change it to black for a few days and see what happens.  What I suspect is
the case, is that the software (or firmware) that runs the mouse has a 
much higher duty-cycle at your machine, whether it's the BIOS, the
video card,  or Linux, I couldn't venture an opinion.  If you could 
temporarily set up Linux on your brother's laptop (the same version you use) 
and then test, you could determine. if it's hardware or Linux. If it turns 
out to be hardware, you should alert the manufacturers of your machine and
its video card.  (And the mouse!) They will certainly want to know, since most
of their customers are using Windows, where the problem will also exist.  If 
it turns out the other way--Linux--you should file a bug report. 

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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[Magnus Boman]

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 16:17 -0500, Sunny wrote:
> On 3/13/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think you will find that on local networks where nothing is less
> > than 100meg that ssh is quite a bit slower than a well tuned
> > nfs.
> >
> 
> As you said the magic word "well tuned nfs" ... :)
> 
> Please, define well-tuned. Or direct me to a very nice tutorial for
> this. I found a bunch all over the place, and I have very bad
> experience with the nfs performance while writing to nfs volumes. Very
> often it stops the transfer for some seconds, konqeror reporting
> "Stall" and then resumes. The last part of the file usually takes
> along time, etc. These observations are made using konqueror, midnight
> commander, and pure cp from commandline. Sometimes even the overall
> responsivness of the machine is lost (and this is 3400+ amd with 2G).
> 
> The files in question are usually more than 300M, and they start
> pretty well, but after the first 50-70 MB it starts to stall. I found
> out that using sftp takes about the same amount of time, but does not
> hog the mouse movement or window switching, as nfs write does.

I would suspect that this has to do with file system caching. The file
won't be saved to disk straight away, but to memory. When the memory
fills up, it will flush to disk.
Does it make a difference if the box has just been rebooted compared to
when the box has been up and running for a while?
The sftp would be a bit slower generally as it is encrypted, so the
target machine will not be hammered, thus being able to flush to disk
without you noticing.

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Doug McGarrett]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 10:41, Dave Howorth wrote:
> pelibali wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Fujitsu Siemens "Mini RF.Mouse" wireless mouse connected to
> > my laptop via its own USB dongle. First I used "normal" 1,5V AAA-type
> > batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
> > 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
> > of daily work. The system is SUSE 9.1...
> >
> > My question concerns the following: my brother uses the very same
> > type of mouse and his lasts on the Win* platform for 2-3 _months_
> > with daily 1-2 hrs of use. We tried to exchange mice, but they
> > behaviour the same, so likely no hardware is defected. How this huge
> > time difference is possible? We checked also the batteries, but maybe
> > the mouse background is also an important point. e.g. I use a pretty
> > white and almost flat plate now, where sometimes I see my pointer
> > shaking, without even touching the mouse. (This behaviour didn't
> > happen on the laptop of my brother, when using _my_ mouse &
> > background.)
> > In the case of my brother's laptop the USB ports are at the side
> > where he uses the mouse (right side), but my Acer has ports only on
> > the another, left side. Could that 15cm->40cm (~3x) make such decre-
> > ase in the battery life(s)?
>
> Did you try your brother's laptop with your mouse pad in the place where
> you normally use your laptop? There's one other mechanism I can think of
> that can cause mouse jitter. Some optical mice can be sensitive to
> external light reflected by the mouse pad, typically from fluorescent
> lights. I used to see this with old Sun mice. You could try using a
> different mouse pad (e.g. dark neoprene) or changing the lighting to see
> if it makes a difference.
>
> But you definitely need to find out why your mouse is jittering and stop
> it. As Carlos said, it's using power every time it jitters.
>
> Cheers, Dave

This is my second reply, but I've thought of something else.  The mouse
is probably using Bluetooth RF, and the mouse needs feedback from the receiver
so it knows where it is--i.e., it has its own receiver in it.  If there is 
some kind of jamming, from either another Bluetooth device (that's not
_supposed_ to happen) or from a baby-monitor, or some other FCC part 15
device, then your communication from the computer to the mouse and back 
will be spotty, and a much higher duty-cycle will be needed to get the
information thru.  Short of using a spectrum analyzer, the only way to
verify this for yourself, (unless you know you have your own equipment that
could be jamming and turn that equipment off) is to take your whole setup
over to your brother, and borrow his, and put it in your place, and see
what happens.

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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Sunny wrote:
> Please, define well-tuned. Or direct me to a very nice tutorial for
> this.

Oh, no you don't Fella!  ;-)
I am not an nfs techie.  I know very little about it, and only use
if for MythTV shares, and I took the parms directly out of the
mythtv how-to.  So I'm not the guy you would look to for answers.
Ask anders, he uses it daily.

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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Tim Hempstead wrote:
> John,
>
> Ok, I've tested again with both samba and SFTP.  Samba is
> significantly quicker than SFTP with the iso file copying in ~5-6
> minutes instead of the 35+ being shown by SFTP.  But looking at top
> whilst the processes are running the system is doing virtually nothing
> during both transfers, (both smbd and sshd during the respective
> transfers are peaking at <5% CPU usage, 

Hmmm, thats more improvement that even I would have expected.

Is top showing you the Nice time too? Perhaps the processing
has been niced out of the display?

But to avoid getting side tracked, does that performance live up
to your expectations when running under samba?  Can we rule
out problems with the hard drive array as well as the network?

If so, it sounds like an encryption problem somewhere, and
the windows side looks guilty to me.
I've never had much luck compressing an ISO, is your sftp
trying to use compression in addition to encryption?



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somewhere along the way (in the last month or so) ssh connections
started treating the "UseDNS yes" parameter differently than in the
past on one of my servers, either that or bind is horked.

The symptom taking was 30 seconds to connect, and from
there on running at normal speed.  30 seconds tipped me off
to the fact that it was waiting for dns to time out.  

UseDNS causes it to reverse map the dns to see that it 
gets something that resolves back to the machine trying to
connect.  With out host entries on the dns server for local
machines it was taking forever.Adding entries to hosts fixed
it.  Turning off UseDNS would have also been an option.


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Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server

[Tim Hempstead]

Its certainly strange, the samba transfer rate is more the sort of
level I was expecting.  Top is supposedly showing nice time as well,
and running a straight sar instead also gave the same results.

Disabling ipv6, UseDNS(*), compression on the SFTP windows client all
made little or no difference.  Interestingly changing to another sftp
client on the wintel end, (the sftp from the putty suite instead of
filezilla) appears to run quicker but with occasional large slowdowns
with very high CPU usage on the client, (but not the server) ...
transfer using this was 12mins, not great but better than before

I think that you are correct and that this is a client issue not a
problem with the linux server.

Cheers

Tim

(*) although this isn't the problem here I think I may be encountering
this elsewhere so cheers for that too :)


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On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Tim Hempstead wrote:
> John,
>
> Ok, I've tested again with both samba and SFTP.  Samba is
> significantly quicker than SFTP with the iso file copying in ~5-6
> minutes instead of the 35+ being shown by SFTP.  But looking at top
> whilst the processes are running the system is doing virtually nothing
> during both transfers, (both smbd and sshd during the respective
> transfers are peaking at <5% CPU usage,

Hmmm, thats more improvement that even I would have expected.

Is top showing you the Nice time too? Perhaps the processing
has been niced out of the display?

But to avoid getting side tracked, does that performance live up
to your expectations when running under samba?  Can we rule
out problems with the hard drive array as well as the network?

If so, it sounds like an encryption problem somewhere, and
the windows side looks guilty to me.
I've never had much luck compressing an ISO, is your sftp
trying to use compression in addition to encryption?



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somewhere along the way (in the last month or so) ssh connections
started treating the "UseDNS yes" parameter differently than in the
past on one of my servers, either that or bind is horked.

The symptom taking was 30 seconds to connect, and from
there on running at normal speed.  30 seconds tipped me off
to the fact that it was waiting for dns to time out.

UseDNS causes it to reverse map the dns to see that it
gets something that resolves back to the machine trying to
connect.  With out host entries on the dns server for local
machines it was taking forever.Adding entries to hosts fixed
it.  Turning off UseDNS would have also been an option.


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Re: [opensuse] mod_userdir directory listings not working

[Carl Hartung]

On Tue March 13 2007 15:13, Paul Nowosielski wrote:
> Any ideas to solve this??

Hi Paul,

I think this is a minor configuration oversight in YaST since 10.1. Try the 
following:

edit /etc/sysconfig/apache2, and set:

  APACHE_CONF_INCLUDE_FILES="extra/httpd-userdir.conf"

save, run 'rcapache2 restart'

This worked for me.

hth & regards,

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RE: [opensuse] remote install of suse 10.0

[James D. Parra]

On 3/13/07, James D. Parra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I copied the DVD contents of Suse 10.0 onto a server share. The 64 bit
> version should be there as well . From a remote machine, which
only
> has a cd drive, I use the Suse 10 CD to begin the install, however it the
> installer notifies me that I am installing a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit system.
> Afterwards, it loads the kernel although I purposely crash out of it and
> restart the install from the ncurses screen, first loading the nic module,
> then selecting Start Installation and pointing to the network share. My
two
> question are; is the installer loading the 64 bit kernel or the 32 bit?
And,
> if it is loading the 32 bit kernel, how can I have it install the 64 bit
> kernel remotely?
>
> Thank you,
>
> ~James
>

I have used in the past the boot.iso for 9.3. You boot with it, and
then select the netwrok install, etc. Then it loads the 10.0 install
kernel, and you are all done.

You can find the 9.3. boot cd (only 58M) here (or check any mirror:


~

Thank you, Sunny, however, once I get to the kernel to start installing from
the remote server, it crashes out to the Start Installation screen.

Any ideas on how to fix that?

Thanks,

James
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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

[Paul Abrahams]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 12:12 am, James D. Parra wrote:

>
> I'm connecting to our windows' shares using names instead IP addresses
> using cifs and not experiencing any problems (Suse 9.1 -10.0).
>
> What is it that can't be done using cifs? One thing I noticed that I prefer
> using cifs over smbfs is if the windows box is rebooted, the cifs mount
> recovers while the smbfs mounts would timeout and become unmountable.

I have hostnames on my LAN that smbfs can resolve but cifs cannot.  The 
answer "use a fixed IP address" is not very satisfying if you're running 
fully dynamic DHCP.   And to say "don't use fully dynamic DHCP" is to have 
the tail wagging the dog.

Paul
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Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

[Paul Abrahams]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 9:37 am, Dan Winship wrote:
>
> The distinction you *can* make is between "smbfs", which is an old,
> unmaintained and partly-broken SMB/CIFS client kernel module for Linux,
> and "cifs", which is a newer, actively-developed SMB/CIFS client kernel
> module for Linux. The fact that one has "smb" in its name and the other
> has "cifs" in its name isn't really all that relevant. The point is just
> that they're two separate codebases, and SUSE used to ship smbfs, but
> doesn't any more (because cifs is maintained and smbfs isn't, so bugs
> reported against smbfs will never get fixed, while bugs against cifs
> will).

So the choice is between an older, unmaintained client kernel that will 
continue to work in contexts where it worked previously and a newer client 
kernel that is not completely developed but is being actively maintained and 
improved.

If that's the case, then the sensible path is to use smbfs for now and switch 
to cifs whenever it becomes interchangeable with smbfs for whatever one is 
doing.

Paul
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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Paul Abrahams wrote:
> I have hostnames on my LAN that smbfs can resolve but cifs cannot.  The 
> answer "use a fixed IP address" is not very satisfying if you're running 
> fully dynamic DHCP.   
>   
Could you define what you mean by "fully dynamic DHCP"?  If your DHCP
server is changing IP addresses constantly, even if it is updating the
DNS server, it is misconfigured.  It will give out the same IP to the
same NIC every time, unless its range is too small for the number of
machines connecting.

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Re: [opensuse] Remote install/upgrade of SUSE (updated)

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Matthew Stringer wrote:
> However it makes no sense, I've tried blanking the MBR record and then 
> installing GRUB but it makes no difference the machines always just die after 
> POST.
>
> I've killed 4 machines now and have a 600 Mile round trip to go n fix them.
>   
I wonder if it is related to the change to load grub onto the disk
instead of the mbr.  There is a setting in /etc/sysconfig/bootloader,
i.e. LOADER_LOCATION.  I don't remember now what is default, but I
changed mine to MBR.  It might be affected by /etc/grub.conf, but I saw
that problem when I installed on our office server, where it appeared to
NOT install grub nor a generic master boot record.  I also had an AMD
processor.  I assumed it was my raid1 drives, but perhaps not.  I'm not
sure if the grub command would care about the setting in /etc/sysconfig
or just Yast bootloader module, but that is my take on it.

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Robert Smits]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 09:54, Damon Register wrote:
> pelibali wrote:
> > batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
> > 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
>
> I am using a Logitech trackball wireless mouse on my PC tower and a
> wired version on my son's notebook PC.  The battery in the wireless
> seems to last about 3 to 6 months.

I'm using a Targus optical mouse, which is powered by 2 AAA batteries. A new 
set of Duracells typically last a couple of days. I just use rechargeables, 
and have one set recharging while the other set is in the mouse. They go 
about a year before they need to be replaced.

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[opensuse] openSUSE, IBM ServeRAID, I/O Errors

[Adam Williams]

I have an IBM xSeries with an IBM ServeRAID controller running
openSUSE 10.1.  Previously, for years, this server ran SuSE 9.2 and
was absolutely ROCK solid.  However, now it is constantly logging I/O
errors,  but no drive ever goes offline.  It really seems to be a
problem with the logical drive.

ipssend says:
 Controller type: ServeRAID-3L
  Actual BIOS version: 7.12.02
  Firmware version   : 6.10.24
  Boot block version : 3.00.21
  Device driver version  : 7.12.05

And there are four active drives, and one hot spare.  Each report as
active with no PFA.  The status of the logical drive is "Okay"

But dmesg is full of:
sd 0:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x7
end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 4319748
sd 0:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x7
end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 4319748

sda is the logical drive

# uname -a
Linux cfsgroup 2.6.16.27-0.9-smp #1 SMP Tue Feb 13 09:35:18 UTC 2007
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

SCSI subsystem initialized
scsi0 : IBM PCI ServeRAID 7.12.05  Build 761 
 Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
SCSI device sda: 106641408 512-byte hdwr sectors (54600 MB)
SCSI device sda: 106641408 512-byte hdwr sectors (54600 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
 Type:   Processor  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
 Type:   Processor  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

Anyone have *ANY* suggestions?
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Robert Smits wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 09:54, Damon Register wrote:
> > pelibali wrote:
> > > batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
> > > 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
> >
> > I am using a Logitech trackball wireless mouse on my PC tower and a
> > wired version on my son's notebook PC.  The battery in the wireless
> > seems to last about 3 to 6 months.
>
> I'm using a Targus optical mouse, which is powered by 2 AAA batteries. A
> new set of Duracells typically last a couple of days. I just use
> rechargeables, and have one set recharging while the other set is in the
> mouse. They go about a year before they need to be replaced.

Yikes. couple days?
Throw that thing away and get a Logitech wireless optical.
My wife got one for christmas and she till has not replaced
the batteries.  She uses it for a couple hours every day and
can't be bothered to shut it off.  It has some auto-power save
mode built in.



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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Robert Lewis]

John Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Robert Smits wrote:
>   
>> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 09:54, Damon Register wrote:
>> 
>>> pelibali wrote:
>>>   
 batteries and max. 2 weeks they were empty. Now I'm using rechargeable
 1,2V AAAs (850mAh) and they last no longer than 10 days with 1-2 hrs
 
>>> I am using a Logitech trackball wireless mouse on my PC tower and a
>>> wired version on my son's notebook PC.  The battery in the wireless
>>> seems to last about 3 to 6 months.
>>>   
>> I'm using a Targus optical mouse, which is powered by 2 AAA batteries. A
>> new set of Duracells typically last a couple of days. I just use
>> rechargeables, and have one set recharging while the other set is in the
>> mouse. They go about a year before they need to be replaced.
>> 
>
> Yikes. couple days?
> Throw that thing away and get a Logitech wireless optical.
> My wife got one for christmas and she till has not replaced
> the batteries.  She uses it for a couple hours every day and
> can't be bothered to shut it off.  It has some auto-power save
> mode built in.
>
>   
I use a Logitec cordless optical mouse with two batteries.  It typically
lasts
two or three months with continuous usage by me and my wife.
>
>   
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[opensuse] Reseting up failsafe

[Adam Jimerson]

Ok after some work in yast to change the boot loader I have fixed
everything but the missing failsafe boot option.  Does anyone know what
I have to do in order to get this back, or did the Kernel update to
2.6.18.8-0.1 get rid of the failsafe altogether? 
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

[Robert Smits]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 17:41, John Andersen wrote:

> Yikes. couple days?
> Throw that thing away and get a Logitech wireless optical.
> My wife got one for christmas and she till has not replaced
> the batteries.  She uses it for a couple hours every day and
> can't be bothered to shut it off.  It has some auto-power save
> mode built in.

Why would I do that? It's about 30 hours of use, and costs me nothing but a 
little bit of electricity. It's a nice mouse.

Bob
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Re: [opensuse] Reseting up failsafe

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 21:34, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> I have fixed
> everything but the missing failsafe boot option.  Does anyone know what
> I have to do in order to get this back
The failsafe bootup option in grub really amounts to a set of kernel 
options 
that may look similar to these:

title Failsafe -- SUSE LINUX 10.x
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off 
noresume selinux=0 nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3
initrd /initrd




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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

[Paul Abrahams]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 8:27 pm, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>
> Could you define what you mean by "fully dynamic DHCP"?  If your DHCP
> server is changing IP addresses constantly, even if it is updating the
> DNS server, it is misconfigured.  It will give out the same IP to the
> same NIC every time, unless its range is too small for the number of
> machines connecting.

In fact I have fixed IP addresses assigned using my router's DHCP 
configuration page, but I don't like the idea of counting on that -- it just 
seems unnecessarily rigid.  Fully dynamic to me means that your configuration 
continues to work no matter how the router decides to assign the DHCP 
addresses --- even in the case, say, where you're adding machines to the LAN 
or removing them unpredictably.

I wonder -- if I remove all my machines from the LAN for a month (so the 
router forgets the configuration) and reconnect them in a different order 
than I did originally, will the IP addresses still stay the same?  I thought 
the way DHCP works is that when the router sees a machine it hasn't seen 
before, it assigns it the lowest available IP number in the DHCP range.

Paul
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Re: [opensuse] remote install of suse 10.0

[Sunny]

On 3/13/07, James D. Parra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thank you, Sunny, however, once I get to the kernel to start installing from
the remote server, it crashes out to the Start Installation screen.

Any ideas on how to fix that?



Would you elaborate more how it "crashes". I.e. what steps you
perform, and what happens.

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