Re: [opensuse] Novell main page

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2007-04-07 00:10, John Andersen wrote:
> On Friday 06 April 2007, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
>   
>> Fri, 06 Apr 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> 
>>> Little humor.
>>>   http://www.novell.com/
>>> Did you played with mouse cursor over the image?
>>>   
>> I have to admit: she's (IMO) cuter than a penguin (and probably
>> beter smelling too).
>> 
>
> I just hope Novell's got the moxy (and the money) to put those on TV.
>
>
>
>   
Wonderful!  Those are much better than my ideas in the opensuse-project
"slogans" thread, but I think I would still like to see someone kick out
a Window :-)

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Re: [opensuse]

[Clayton]

Well..except for Hal and


Never had a complaint about Hal.  It just works for me.  I do not need
fixed mount points for automounted devices.  I have never had it fail
on me.



Stupid.er.uh..I mean Smart.


Well.. Stupid/Smart isn't technically "part" of the default distro.  I
agree it's an annoying app - SmartGUI that is - compared to more
intuitive and informative apps like Synaptic.  I've been told by
"those in the know" that the SmartGUI is undergoing a major overhaul,
and the new interface should be more user friendly and less of an out
of touch developer's idea of what is good.  Fingers crossed.



and don't forget that stupid dog thingy.


Not installed... so no problem. :-)  It does work in 10.2 though (in
mine at least).  I did have it running for a while, and when I did use
it, it worked.  I don't need it... I know where all my personal files
are, so removed it as a redundant app



AND, can someone explain in
SIMPLE English just what the h-e-double hockey sticks Aparmor is
supposed to do. Near as I can tell all it does is take up space on my
hard drive.


Curtis Rey had a good comment on AppArmor a few months ago (3 January):

"If you're running AppArmor - Don't!  It can interfere with apps and /dev
access - it's designed for Enterprise/network servers with access to the
outside world - generally overkill for home users and non-servers."



As for the Zen thing. Well, I find it quite useful, as long as you don't
install the "updater" portion. If you don't install Zen Updater openSuSE
Updater gets installed by default.


I noticed the openSUSE updater thing when I hunted down and killed
Zen.  I also stopped the openSUSE updater.  I use Smart on a regular
basis and my apps are all on the rather gory bleeding edge.


So... 10.2 and problems... I see mainly Zen, Beagle/Kerry and AppArmor
that people complain about as simply not working or causing untold
levels of havoc on their installs.  None of these 3 are critical, and
can simply be removed without really being missed.

Some don't like Hal for various reasons, but it seems to be rare that
it's actually Hal that's broken more like personal choice where
the user doesn't like how Hal handles mount points.

Dunno... still seems to me that 10.2 is a pretty dang good release
(after the post release patches are applied) :-)  The core of it works
very well.  Like all software, it will never be perfect... but, as
long as future releases work as good as or better than 10.2 I'm a
happy camper.  I have recommended 10.2 to a whole lot of people...
first time users.. and they are getting on very well with it.

C.
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Re: [opensuse] Novell main page

[John Andersen]

On Friday 06 April 2007, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> Fri, 06 Apr 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > Little humor.
> >   http://www.novell.com/
> > Did you played with mouse cursor over the image?
>
> I have to admit: she's (IMO) cuter than a penguin (and probably
> beter smelling too).

I just hope Novell's got the moxy (and the money) to put those on TV.



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Re: [opensuse] Gimp problem

[Andrew Colvin]

On Saturday 07 April 2007 06:50:09 jpff wrote:
> I have a problem with Gimp2.2 on 10.2 -- or more accurately on one
> machine running 10.2, and not on the other 4 machines.
>   When I run gimp and try to open any picture i get the error box:
> Opening '/home/jpff/photos/pending/IMG_9200.JPG' failed: Unknown file type
>
> Similarly it says it cannot create thumbnails. The picture is not at
> fault -- it opens on the other machines and also on this machine with
> xv and other applications.  I assume that some library is wrong.  I
> have tried reinstalling gimp and that had no effect.
>   Any suggestions as how to fix this?
> ==John ffitch


John, have you tried loading it with another user to prove that it isn't a 
profile issue.


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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Doug McGarrett]

On Friday 06 April 2007 22:11, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 20:16 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > You do not listen.
> > >
> > > We already told you several times, several people, how to do it, you do
> > > not listen.
> > >
> > > First, define a password as explained already. No, not even root can
> > > enter without a new password for the printer:
> > >
> > >   lppasswd -g sys -a some_admin_username
> > >
> > > Then, for instance, go to
> > >
> > >  > >
> > > and simply tell your printer to print. Click, click.
> >
> > I did what you said.  I don't know if the pasword really changed or not,
> > but the command http://localhost:611/ produces the reply No such file or
> > directory (running from su root)
>
> http://localhost:631 is not a command it is a web address you enter into
> your web browser to access the configuration pages for printers. Enter
> the username/password you set in the lppasswd command to enter admin
> mode.
>
> --
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> UNIX  since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE  since 1998

Well, the password thing seemed not to have worked.  When I went to the
print manager, and it asked for a password, it burped  and said it didn't
recognise the pw.  I gave it the pw that I put in in the lppasswd dialog, that 
you provided above. 

Why in hell Linux needs a password to print something that can be seen on the 
screen is absolutely beyond me.  And why that password is different from the 
root pw is even further beyond me.  

I may have to put some version of Windows on the machine so that I can
print out mail that I need for work that I do.  This is ridiculous!

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[opensuse] Gimp problem

[jpff]

I have a problem with Gimp2.2 on 10.2 -- or more accurately on one
machine running 10.2, and not on the other 4 machines.
  When I run gimp and try to open any picture i get the error box:
Opening '/home/jpff/photos/pending/IMG_9200.JPG' failed: Unknown file type

Similarly it says it cannot create thumbnails. The picture is not at
fault -- it opens on the other machines and also on this machine with
xv and other applications.  I assume that some library is wrong.  I
have tried reinstalling gimp and that had no effect.
  Any suggestions as how to fix this?
==John ffitch
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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Doug McGarrett]

On Friday 06 April 2007 22:11, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 20:16 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > You do not listen.
> > >
> > > We already told you several times, several people, how to do it, you do
> > > not listen.
> > >
> > > First, define a password as explained already. No, not even root can
> > > enter without a new password for the printer:
> > >
> > >   lppasswd -g sys -a some_admin_username
> > >
> > > Then, for instance, go to
> > >
> > >  > >
> > > and simply tell your printer to print. Click, click.
> >
> > I did what you said.  I don't know if the pasword really changed or not,
> > but the command http://localhost:611/ produces the reply No such file or
> > directory (running from su root)
>
> http://localhost:631 is not a command it is a web address you enter into
> your web browser to access the configuration pages for printers. Enter
> the username/password you set in the lppasswd command to enter admin
> mode.
>
> --
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> UNIX  since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE  since 1998

OK, I corrected the number to 631.  It seemed to accept my password,
but it wouldn't print anything--not the stuff stuck in the queue, or a
test.

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Re: [opensuse] SCPM Problem?

[John Pierce]

Well, I tested the scpm after changing the line to read boot.localfs
in boot.scpm it functions as I would expect it to

I am happy now that the profiles are working.

Thanks again for everyones assistance

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Re: [opensuse]

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Clayton wrote:
>> ... for a release of openSUSE that will more stable and
>> bug-free than it
>> currently is!   I know... SLES and SLED are for that... and openSUSE is
>> *supposed* to be bleeding edge...
>
> Dunno... 10.2 is pretty rock solid for me.  I've had zero problems
> that were not self induced.  Fast stable etc etc.  Granted I DON'T use
> zmd/zen/rug or whatever it's called... so.. give that zmd isn't
> installed and borking things up, 10.2 is the most stable and bug free
> SUSE I've had in a long time... since 9.3 I'd say.
>
>
> C.
Well..except for Hal and
Stupid.er.uh..I mean Smart.  Oh yeah,
and don't forget that stupid dog thingy. AND, can someone explain in
SIMPLE English just what the h-e-double hockey sticks Aparmor is
supposed to do. Near as I can tell all it does is take up space on my
hard drive.

As for the Zen thing. Well, I find it quite useful, as long as you don't
install the "updater" portion. If you don't install Zen Updater openSuSE
Updater gets installed by default.

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Re: [opensuse]

[Billie Erin Walsh]

M Harris wrote:
> On Friday 06 April 2007 13:54, Tim Donnelly wrote:
>   
>> Somehow my disc one of my OpenSuse 10.1 x86 set has gotten messed up.  I
>> can't seem to find where "old" versions are available on the opensuse.org
>> site.
>>
>> Can someone provide me a link?
>> 
>   I think this just became the funniest post so far for the month of 
> April...
>
>   ... openSUSE 10.1 *WAS* messed up for everyone...  except those of us 
> smart 
> enough not to load it... shsh... so, uh, why would you want to reload it 
> from a know good, uh I mean messed up, disk?
>
>   :-)
I have 10.1 on another box and it works quite well. YMMV
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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 20:16 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 April 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > You do not listen.
> >
> > We already told you several times, several people, how to do it, you do
> > not listen.
> >
> > First, define a password as explained already. No, not even root can enter
> > without a new password for the printer:
> >
> >   lppasswd -g sys -a some_admin_username
> >
> > Then, for instance, go to
> >
> >  >
> > and simply tell your printer to print. Click, click.

> I did what you said.  I don't know if the pasword really changed or not, but 
> the command http://localhost:611/ produces the reply No such file or 
> directory (running from su root)

http://localhost:631 is not a command it is a web address you enter into
your web browser to access the configuration pages for printers. Enter
the username/password you set in the lppasswd command to enter admin
mode.

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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Joseph Loo]

Doug McGarrett wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 April 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 21:17 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 not tried, not interested 
>>> There are only three communications, and they did not seem helpful.
>>> Used Google:  opensuse list archive lppasswd
>> WHAT!!!
>>
>>
>> First: THIS is the list archive where you have to look:
>>
>>   
>>
>> And search there for the messages I told you by writer name. There is a
>> search feature.
>>
>> Read this:
>>
>> 
>>
>> it explains it all.
>>
>>> I am kind of desperate here.  The XP machine may be down for the count,
>>> and the only thing sort of working is this Linux machine which I cannot
>>> print from, for no obvious reason--it was working fine, even tho only
>>> with the color printer, and all of a sudden, blooie!
>>>
>>> Is there anyone that anyone knows on eastern Long Island, NY that might
>>> be able to make this thing work?  I suppose that I could wipe and
>>> reinstall, but I have about 4 MB of data--from this list--that I would
>>> like to keep, and no CD or DVD writer on the machine, and I'm a bit
>>> worried about trying to add one while everthing else is in flux.
>> You do not listen.
>>
>> We already told you several times, several people, how to do it, you do
>> not listen.
>>
>> First, define a password as explained already. No, not even root can enter
>> without a new password for the printer:
>>
>>   lppasswd -g sys -a some_admin_username
>>
>> Then, for instance, go to
>>
>> >
>> and simply tell your printer to print. Click, click.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>Carlos E. R.
> 
> I did what you said.  I don't know if the pasword really changed or not, but 
> the command http://localhost:611/ produces the reply No such file or 
> directory (running from su root)
> 
> --doug
If you notice your reply uses port 611. It is suppose to be 631. I would also
suggest that you list your steps and the results from the command.

Do you have the cups packages loaded? When you execute the lppasswd as root? Is
the cups demon running?

Just stating what happen is pretty useless in diagnosing your prblem.

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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Doug McGarrett]

On Wednesday 04 April 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 21:17 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > > not tried, not interested 
> >
> > There are only three communications, and they did not seem helpful.
> > Used Google:  opensuse list archive lppasswd
>
> WHAT!!!
>
>
> First: THIS is the list archive where you have to look:
>
>   
>
> And search there for the messages I told you by writer name. There is a
> search feature.
>
> Read this:
>
> 
>
> it explains it all.
>
> > I am kind of desperate here.  The XP machine may be down for the count,
> > and the only thing sort of working is this Linux machine which I cannot
> > print from, for no obvious reason--it was working fine, even tho only
> > with the color printer, and all of a sudden, blooie!
> >
> > Is there anyone that anyone knows on eastern Long Island, NY that might
> > be able to make this thing work?  I suppose that I could wipe and
> > reinstall, but I have about 4 MB of data--from this list--that I would
> > like to keep, and no CD or DVD writer on the machine, and I'm a bit
> > worried about trying to add one while everthing else is in flux.
>
> You do not listen.
>
> We already told you several times, several people, how to do it, you do
> not listen.
>
> First, define a password as explained already. No, not even root can enter
> without a new password for the printer:
>
>   lppasswd -g sys -a some_admin_username
>
> Then, for instance, go to
>
> 
> and simply tell your printer to print. Click, click.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>Carlos E. R.

Well, I tried to input a new password.  There was no indication that it didn't 
like it, but when I tried to make the printer output the protected files, it 
didn't recognise the password I had entered--6 aphlamerics, as requested,
starting with a number and followed by 5 letters.  

Please somebody, tell me how to salvage this mess--in plain English, one step 
at a time.  

doug
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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Doug McGarrett]

On Wednesday 04 April 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 21:17 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > > not tried, not interested 
> >
> > There are only three communications, and they did not seem helpful.
> > Used Google:  opensuse list archive lppasswd
>
> WHAT!!!
>
>
> First: THIS is the list archive where you have to look:
>
>   
>
> And search there for the messages I told you by writer name. There is a
> search feature.
>
> Read this:
>
> 
>
> it explains it all.
>
> > I am kind of desperate here.  The XP machine may be down for the count,
> > and the only thing sort of working is this Linux machine which I cannot
> > print from, for no obvious reason--it was working fine, even tho only
> > with the color printer, and all of a sudden, blooie!
> >
> > Is there anyone that anyone knows on eastern Long Island, NY that might
> > be able to make this thing work?  I suppose that I could wipe and
> > reinstall, but I have about 4 MB of data--from this list--that I would
> > like to keep, and no CD or DVD writer on the machine, and I'm a bit
> > worried about trying to add one while everthing else is in flux.
>
> You do not listen.
>
> We already told you several times, several people, how to do it, you do
> not listen.
>
> First, define a password as explained already. No, not even root can enter
> without a new password for the printer:
>
>   lppasswd -g sys -a some_admin_username
>
> Then, for instance, go to
>
> 
> and simply tell your printer to print. Click, click.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>Carlos E. R.

I did what you said.  I don't know if the pasword really changed or not, but 
the command http://localhost:611/ produces the reply No such file or 
directory (running from su root)

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Re: [opensuse] Novell main page

[Theo v. Werkhoven]

Fri, 06 Apr 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Little humor.
>   http://www.novell.com/
> Did you played with mouse cursor over the image?

I have to admit: she's (IMO) cuter than a penguin (and probably
beter smelling too).

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Re: [opensuse] Elevator Question

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 17:42 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:

> On Friday 06 April 2007 17:19, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> ...
> > Yes, I use ionice. But it is not very usefull, only root can use it. For
> > instance, I have to copy large files, and I'm not really interested in
> > doing it fast, rather to be able to keep working on something else at the
> > same time. So, I fire the copy, find out the pid, then as root I
> > re-io-nice it. That should not require root priviledges.
> 
> 
> The top, R key for renice user process should do the same from user console. 

No, that changes the "niceness" of a process cpu usage, but ionice changes 
it's io, ie, input/output needs, ie, disk usage. It's different.

Also, you can "nice" a process you own without being root, but not un-nice 
(ie, give higher priority). For ionice, you can do nothing.

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Re: [opensuse] Elevator Question

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 06 April 2007 17:19, Carlos E. R. wrote:

...
> Yes, I use ionice. But it is not very usefull, only root can use it. For
> instance, I have to copy large files, and I'm not really interested in
> doing it fast, rather to be able to keep working on something else at the
> same time. So, I fire the copy, find out the pid, then as root I
> re-io-nice it. That should not require root priviledges.


The top, R key for renice user process should do the same from user console. 

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Re: [opensuse] Kword spacing problem

[BandiPat]

On Friday 06 April 2007, Larry Stotler wrote:
> Hi.  I'm using KWord v1.6.0 included w/ openSUSE v10.2.  I've use
> KWord over the years and prefer it to OpenOffice.  However, this is
> my first document with this version, and I am having an issue with
> trying to double-space at the end of a sentence.  No matter what I
> do, it will only allow 1 space between sentences.  I looked through
> all the settings and didn't see anything that would change this.  I
> have never had  this problem before, and it's definitely an issue. 
> Any one have any ideas?  Thanx


Larry,
I just tried KWord again and didn't have this problem.  Using 1.6.0 here 
as well.  The first thing I'm thinking is a setting you've missed that 
doesn't allow this or is automatically correcting the page.

I'm pretty certain also that Suse has the 1.6.2 build on one of their 
mirrors as well, so you might try that.  Remove or rename the kword 
config file in your /home .kde directory as well to see if it goes 
away, before trying to update.

regards,
Lee
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Re: [opensuse] DELL OEM (SoundBlaster!Live 5.1) not making sounds

[Johannes Nohl]

Hi!


I have a Dell OEM (Sound Blaster! Live 5.1) on my computer, and Yast says it's
working just fine, it even plays some music when i press test.
The problem is that even though yast says it's working, nothing makes a sound
in my computer (for example when i log in, log out, etc), and when i try to
listen to some music on Real player for example, i get a message that says:

"Error
Not able to open sound device.
Possibly under use by some other application"


This reminds me to the problem I had. With 9.3 my Soundblaster worked
fine, from 10.0 on it wasn't working anymore. It was a Creatvie
Soundblaster live player 1024. Nobody could help me.

Is it module emu10k1? Is it working until you logged on/off once? Does
(after logging in with no sound) "rcalsasound reload" brings it back?
Is sound playing if you go to real console (I thing aplay or aplayer
does it) while running X (the Strg+Alt+Fx thing)? Do you have a error
similar to this:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2005-12/msg00139.html?

I never made it. Finally I threw the card away.
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[opensuse] Novell main page

[Rajko M.]

Little humor.
  http://www.novell.com/
Did you played with mouse cursor over the image?
 
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Re: [opensuse] Elevator Question

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 15:35 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote:

> If you have the kernel source installed, you will find several documents
> relating to I/O schedulers in the Documentation/block directory. It was
> through these documents that I discovered the ionice command, which only
> applies if you are using CFQ as an I/O scheduler. Alas, I am still looking for
> more information on CFQ tuning.

Yes, I use ionice. But it is not very usefull, only root can use it. For 
instance, I have to copy large files, and I'm not really interested in 
doing it fast, rather to be able to keep working on something else at the 
same time. So, I fire the copy, find out the pid, then as root I 
re-io-nice it. That should not require root priviledges.

But your idea of changing the scheduler for a whole device sounds curious. 

I usually find kernel documents made for developpers to understand, much 
is assumed to be known already by the reader. There is only one file that 
talks about ionice, and not much.

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[John Andersen]

On Friday 06 April 2007, G.T.Smith wrote:
> Checksums as it has been already pointed out provide no security, only
> a  guarantee of the integrity of the source files, and as such are
> essential for technologies such as bittorrent to work. However, checksum
> + datasource checks can be gimmicked (though in the instance of
> bittorrent such gimmickry is unlikely to work).

So which is it Graham ?
You seem to want to come down simultaneously on every side of the issue.

If you cut/paste your checksums from the web page and they match
the bittorrent downloaded ISO, it proves that all of the contributing
servers from which your bittorrent was served, were secure enough for the job 
at hand within the accuracy of the checkum methodology.

Each packet (or what ever the data block is called) is check summed in the 
bittorrent client, and the whole iso can (and should) be checked.

There is virtually no opportunity to insert a rogue data block (with
a virus) that was not on the original iso and get away with it. 

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Re: [opensuse] Elevator Question

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I forgot to mention that I already used that method to change the scheduler
for testing. 



I'm curious to learn a bit about that method. Do you have a link to some 
info, perhaps?


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If you have the kernel source installed, you will find several documents 
relating to I/O schedulers in the Documentation/block directory. It was 
through these documents that I discovered the ionice command, which only 
applies if you are using CFQ as an I/O scheduler. Alas, I am still 
looking for more information on CFQ tuning.


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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 06 April 2007 13:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Friday 2007-04-06 at 12:41 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > I was merely addressing the point that running someone else's
> > software is an act of trust. Such trust must be based on true
> > identities and not something forgeable.
>
> But the OP wants to distribute audio files, not programs.

So? That does not fundamentally alter the security analysis.

If the audio is a message telling you where to meet to hand off your 
copy of some top-secret documents you're leaking, you probably want to 
know you're getting the right message.

If it's your new favorite mix tape, then I don't think it's a very big 
deal if someone swaps their's for yours.


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The Thursday 2007-04-05 at 11:39 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote:

> I forgot to mention that I already used that method to change the scheduler
> for testing. 

I'm curious to learn a bit about that method. Do you have a link to some 
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>   It looks like 10.2 for the most part is ok... but if you monitor the 
> bugzilla 
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> waiting.

That only means that we participate and report more easily (and many of 
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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 12:41 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

...
> 
> I was merely addressing the point that running someone else's software 
> is an act of trust. Such trust must be based on true identities and not 
> something forgeable.

But the OP wants to distribute audio files, not programs.

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[G.T.Smith]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Friday 2007-04-06 at 20:41 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
>
> >> Should I remind you that SuSE/Novell uses torrent to distribute the iso
> >> images of the distribution? Indeed, the "virus" that SuSE
> distributes is
> >> the one I have installed in my system, alive and running - it is called
> >> "opensuse linux"!
> > That doesn't change the fact that bittorrent in itself doesn't have
> security.
> > It also doesn't change the fact that a checksum is not a security
> feature. It
> > only helps you ensure that what you get is what the other side sent.
> In the
> > end, you're still stuck with the question "do I trust the sender".
> Bittorrent
> > doesn't help you with that
>
> And that's way more than what ftp does: I normally get what the other
> side
> sent, with no integrity check. The same as any other file transfer
> protocol, be it ftp, http, samba, nfs... you name it, I have to trust
> what
> the other side sends. With torrent at least integrity is checked.
>
>
> You are missing the point: torrent, in the way that Novell uses it to
> distribute opensuse, is as secure as can be. It is they who post the link
> with the checksums, and it is they who put the seeds. We don get those
> from out there in the wild.
>
Bittorrent relies on replication on mutliple source servers so that the
client can obtain  data from multiple sources. To some extent it
sidesteps the bandwidth and server load issues, but there is the
potentially dangerous assumption that the source servers concerned are
securely maintained by people of good intention. (There are also a few
domestic router/modems that choke under the number of open connections
that bittorrent can accumulate but that is a separate issue).

Checksums as it has been already pointed out provide no security, only
a  guarantee of the integrity of the source files, and as such are
essential for technologies such as bittorrent to work. However, checksum
+ datasource checks can be gimmicked (though in the instance of
bittorrent such gimmickry is unlikely to work).

If should also be noted Novell have resources that most individuals do
not have to monitor the distribution and flag possible problems.

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Re: [opensuse]

[Clayton]

... for a release of openSUSE that will more stable and bug-free than it
currently is!   I know... SLES and SLED are for that... and openSUSE is
*supposed* to be bleeding edge...


Dunno... 10.2 is pretty rock solid for me.  I've had zero problems
that were not self induced.  Fast stable etc etc.  Granted I DON'T use
zmd/zen/rug or whatever it's called... so.. give that zmd isn't
installed and borking things up, 10.2 is the most stable and bug free
SUSE I've had in a long time... since 9.3 I'd say.


C.
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Re: [opensuse]

[M Harris]

On Friday 06 April 2007 14:43, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > so, I'm still waiting.
>
> For what?
... for a release of openSUSE that will more stable and bug-free than 
it 
currently is!   I know... SLES and SLED are for that... and openSUSE is 
*supposed* to be bleeding edge... but common... yous guys got to know that 
there is a difference between bleeding edge and beta... as in bleed to 
death...  but uff-da...   I digress

Actually, yous guys are doing a pretty good job... all in all... except 
for 
that little Novell thingy...   :-P


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[opensuse] Kword spacing problem

[Larry Stotler]

Hi.  I'm using KWord v1.6.0 included w/ openSUSE v10.2.  I've use
KWord over the years and prefer it to OpenOffice.  However, this is my
first document with this version, and I am having an issue with trying
to double-space at the end of a sentence.  No matter what I do, it
will only allow 1 space between sentences.  I looked through all the
settings and didn't see anything that would change this.  I have never
had  this problem before, and it's definitely an issue.  Any one have
any ideas?  Thanx
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Re: [opensuse]

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 06 April 2007 12:43, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Friday 06 April 2007 20:39:21 M Harris wrote:
> > so, I'm still waiting.
>
> For what?

Perfection and / or Godot, whichever arrives first...


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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Randall R Schulz]

Carlos,

On Friday 06 April 2007 12:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Friday 2007-04-06 at 11:59 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > That's what cryptographic identity certificates are for. One would
> > hope that if BitTorrent is going to be widely used to distribute
> > critical resources such as software it would be endowed with the
> > ability to propagate and verify these signatures.
> >
> > Or does BitTorrent already incorporate certificate validation?
>
> Tell me, when I download opensuse, using http, for instance, do I get
> such cryptographic certificates? I believe not. Not even if download
> from the novell site.

That's the point. It seems like something that needs to be incorporated 
into file distribution software in order to secure our on-line software 
distribution networks.


> However, you can publish the torrent initial link in a secure
> webserver (https), which means that you get the download site links
> and checksums from a certified source. The ensuing torrent download
> is thus certified.

So the answer is that security virtually identical to what could be 
achieved by directly incorporating certificate support into BitTorrent 
itself can be achieved with existing mechanisms. That's good.


> To duplicate that feat with http you require all mirror servers to
> use https. And FTP? No way.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not suggesting there's anything in any way 
superior to BitTorrent, at least for popular downloads (below a certain 
threshold of demand, BitTorrent is slower 'cause there aren't enough 
copies to satisfy retrieval requests in a timely manner and direct 
retrieval is preferable for the end user).

I was merely addressing the point that running someone else's software 
is an act of trust. Such trust must be based on true identities and not 
something forgeable.


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Re: [opensuse]

[Bruce Marshall]

On Friday 06 April 2007 15:22, Tim Donnelly wrote:
> In what way was 10.1 hosed? 

The only thing hosed was the update procedure which they changed  and it 
was broken.   And they eventually provided fixes.

Once you got by that, it was an ok release.
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Re: [opensuse]

[Anders Johansson]

On Friday 06 April 2007 20:39:21 M Harris wrote:
> so, I'm still waiting.

For what?

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Ryouga Hibiki]

From: Jan Karjalainen To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:42:47 +0200

Which protocol does that, I'd like to know...
In the end, you have to trust to source, right?
Unless it's source code, then you can check out the code for yourself.
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Greetings,

use Bittorrent for the transfer but use zip, rar or other tool to password 
protect your package, so your package is protected against curious people 
and by the integrity check you're certain that you have received your 
package.


Its a weird discussion, your should know =/

Carlos A.

PS: Unless you know that there's a way to change a package without modifying 
the integrity of these (MD5SUM), is that possible?


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Re: [opensuse]

[Anders Johansson]

On Friday 06 April 2007 21:22:19 Tim Donnelly wrote:
> Well, since this is only the 6th of April I guess I shouldn't be to
> insulted.
>
> In what way was 10.1 hosed?  I have several boxes running on the x86_64
> version and they seem to be doing just fine.  Is there cause for concern?

He's referring to the update system. As far as I know, even "M" doesn't think 
there is anything wrong with the rest of it

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Re: [opensuse]

[M Harris]

On Friday 06 April 2007 14:22, Tim Donnelly wrote:
> In what way was 10.1 hosed?  I have several boxes running on the x86_64
> version and they seem to be doing just fine.  Is there cause for concern?
I was mostly kidding with you...

... mainly the updater was hosed... and those concerns were eventually 
fixed... but if you look back over the archives the problems with 10.1 were 
pretty scary, and what I mean by that is that they created fear uncertainty 
and doubt (hahahah) in many of us... so we waited till 10.2... and then some 
of us still didn't load it... just to see what happened to everyone else 
first.  HA!

It looks like 10.2 for the most part is ok... but if you monitor the 
bugzilla 
list [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will notice tons of them... so, I'm still 
waiting.





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Re: [opensuse]

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 06 April 2007 13:54, Tim Donnelly wrote:
> Somehow my disc one of my OpenSuse 10.1 x86 set has gotten messed up.  I
> can't seem to find where "old" versions are available on the opensuse.org
> site.
>
> Can someone provide me a link?

Hi Tim,

ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/iso

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 11:59 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> That's what cryptographic identity certificates are for. One would hope 
> that if BitTorrent is going to be widely used to distribute critical 
> resources such as software it would be endowed with the ability to 
> propagate and verify these signatures.
> 
> Or does BitTorrent already incorporate certificate validation?

Tell me, when I download opensuse, using http, for instance, do I get such 
cryptographic certificates? I believe not. Not even if download from the 
novell site.

However, you can publish the torrent initial link in a secure webserver 
(https), which means that you get the download site links and checksums 
from a certified source. The ensuing torrent download is thus certified.

To duplicate that feat with http you require all mirror servers to use 
https. And FTP? No way.

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Re: [opensuse]

[Tim Donnelly]

Well, since this is only the 6th of April I guess I shouldn't be to insulted.

In what way was 10.1 hosed?  I have several boxes running on the x86_64 version 
and they seem to be doing just fine.  Is there cause for concern?

Tim Donnelly 
Systems/Network Administrator 
Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries 
(303)759-3399 x106 

On Fri Apr 6 12:19 , M Harris sent:

On Friday 06 April 2007 13:54, Tim Donnelly wrote:
> Somehow my disc one of my OpenSuse 10.1 x86 set has gotten messed up. I
> can't seem to find where "old" versions are available on the opensuse.org
> site.
>
> Can someone provide me a link?
I think this just became the funniest post so far for the month of April...

... openSUSE 10.1 *WAS* messed up for everyone... except those of us smart 
enough not to load it... shsh... so, uh, why would you want to reload it 
from a know good, uh I mean messed up, disk?

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[M Harris]

On Friday 06 April 2007 13:54, Tim Donnelly wrote:
> Somehow my disc one of my OpenSuse 10.1 x86 set has gotten messed up.  I
> can't seem to find where "old" versions are available on the opensuse.org
> site.
>
> Can someone provide me a link?
I think this just became the funniest post so far for the month of 
April...

... openSUSE 10.1 *WAS* messed up for everyone...  except those of us 
smart 
enough not to load it... shsh... so, uh, why would you want to reload it 
from a know good, uh I mean messed up, disk?

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 06 April 2007 11:42, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
> ...
>
> > That doesn't change the fact that bittorrent in itself doesn't have
> > security. It also doesn't change the fact that a checksum is not a
> > security feature. It only helps you ensure that what you get is
> > what the other side sent. In the end, you're still stuck with the
> > question "do I trust the sender". Bittorrent doesn't help you with
> > that
>
> Which protocol does that, I'd like to know...
> In the end, you have to trust to source, right?

Of course. But there's a separate issue, and that is the matter of 
knowing that the provider is who them claim to be. Piggybacking malware 
on the name of a trusted source is a viable means for injecting an 
exploit, if the distribution system does not preclude such 
misrepresentations.

That's what cryptographic identity certificates are for. One would hope 
that if BitTorrent is going to be widely used to distribute critical 
resources such as software it would be endowed with the ability to 
propagate and verify these signatures.

Or does BitTorrent already incorporate certificate validation?


> Unless it's source code, then you can check out the code for
> yourself.

True, if you're a good enough programmer and have the time. For 
practical purposes, virtually all users must trust someone else to 
certify that a given piece of software if free of deliberately added 
vulnerabilities. And that does not reflect bugs with security 
impacts--they're a separate issue--nor does such a professional 
certification constitute a guarantee.


C'est la vie.


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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 20:41 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

> > Should I remind you that SuSE/Novell uses torrent to distribute the iso
> > images of the distribution? Indeed, the "virus" that SuSE distributes is
> > the one I have installed in my system, alive and running - it is called
> > "opensuse linux"!
> 
> That doesn't change the fact that bittorrent in itself doesn't have security. 
> It also doesn't change the fact that a checksum is not a security feature. It 
> only helps you ensure that what you get is what the other side sent. In the 
> end, you're still stuck with the question "do I trust the sender". Bittorrent 
> doesn't help you with that

And that's way more than what ftp does: I normally get what the other side 
sent, with no integrity check. The same as any other file transfer 
protocol, be it ftp, http, samba, nfs... you name it, I have to trust what 
the other side sends. With torrent at least integrity is checked.


You are missing the point: torrent, in the way that Novell uses it to 
distribute opensuse, is as secure as can be. It is they who post the link 
with the checksums, and it is they who put the seeds. We don get those 
from out there in the wild.

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[opensuse]

[Tim Donnelly]

Somehow my disc one of my OpenSuse 10.1 x86 set has gotten messed up.  I can't 
seem to find where "old" versions are available on the opensuse.org site.

Can someone provide me a link?

Thanks


Tim Donnelly 
Systems/Network Administrator 
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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Anders Johansson]

On Friday 06 April 2007 20:42:47 Jan Karjalainen wrote:
> Which protocol does that, I'd like to know...

None, that's the point.

> In the end, you have to trust to source, right?

Exactly

> Unless it's source code, then you can check out the code for yourself.

If you want to get really picky, that doesn't help either

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Jan Karjalainen]

Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 06 April 2007 20:35:44 Carlos E. R. wrote:
  

The Friday 2007-04-06 at 19:55 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:


bittorrent does have security: the initial seed or link inlcudes
checksums.


Indeed. You can be absolutely sure that the virus you receive is
identical to the virus that was sent

A checksum isn't security, it is fault protection
  

Should I remind you that SuSE/Novell uses torrent to distribute the iso
images of the distribution? Indeed, the "virus" that SuSE distributes is
the one I have installed in my system, alive and running - it is called
"opensuse linux"!



That doesn't change the fact that bittorrent in itself doesn't have security. 
It also doesn't change the fact that a checksum is not a security feature. It 
only helps you ensure that what you get is what the other side sent. In the 
end, you're still stuck with the question "do I trust the sender". Bittorrent 
doesn't help you with that


  

Which protocol does that, I'd like to know...
In the end, you have to trust to source, right?
Unless it's source code, then you can check out the code for yourself.
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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[M Harris]

On Friday 06 April 2007 13:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>  Indeed, the "virus" that SuSE distributes is
> the one I have installed in my system, alive and running - it is called
> "opensuse linux"!
... preach it bubba... !



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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Anders Johansson]

On Friday 06 April 2007 20:35:44 Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Friday 2007-04-06 at 19:55 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > > bittorrent does have security: the initial seed or link inlcudes
> > > checksums.
> >
> > Indeed. You can be absolutely sure that the virus you receive is
> > identical to the virus that was sent
> >
> > A checksum isn't security, it is fault protection
>
> Should I remind you that SuSE/Novell uses torrent to distribute the iso
> images of the distribution? Indeed, the "virus" that SuSE distributes is
> the one I have installed in my system, alive and running - it is called
> "opensuse linux"!

That doesn't change the fact that bittorrent in itself doesn't have security. 
It also doesn't change the fact that a checksum is not a security feature. It 
only helps you ensure that what you get is what the other side sent. In the 
end, you're still stuck with the question "do I trust the sender". Bittorrent 
doesn't help you with that

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 19:55 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

> > bittorrent does have security: the initial seed or link inlcudes
> > checksums.
> 
> Indeed. You can be absolutely sure that the virus you receive is identical to 
> the virus that was sent
> 
> A checksum isn't security, it is fault protection

Should I remind you that SuSE/Novell uses torrent to distribute the iso 
images of the distribution? Indeed, the "virus" that SuSE distributes is 
the one I have installed in my system, alive and running - it is called 
"opensuse linux"!

:-P

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Dave Howorth]

On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 19:13 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> Recently I need to start a small project to distribute about 100GB
> megabytes of audio files to local university campus. I'd like to post my
> requirement hoping I can get some insightful recommendation on what
> software/technology to use to distribute these files.

Unless somebody comes up with a killer app that does everything, I think
I'd separate the search requirements from the distribution requirements.
And sadly, you may need to separate the character set requirements as
well - I hope somebody knows of a complete solution.

I don't have many thoughts on the search or character set issues. On the
distribution side, you might also want to look at rsync and bittorrent.

Cheers, Dave

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Re: [opensuse]] Win vs Lin info - First Vista experience

[M Harris]

On Thursday 05 April 2007 03:13, John Andersen wrote:
> On the other side, I configured a Core 2 Duo Dell 9200 2 gig ram for
> a friend.
You are the first one to actually say you are using *2 gig ram* and 
that is 
important... if you are using less than 2 gig you are going to look at 
significant bootup times... and poor run times... period. Yes, M$ lied... 
what did you expect?

Re: [opensuse] PDF to TIFF conversion?

[Greg Freemyer]

On 4/6/07, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 11:32 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

> Thanks to all 3 responses, but I'm still having a few issues.

You could also try "The Gimp". I don't remember if it reads pdf directly,
but if not, it can read ps, and there is a pdf2ps convertor.

There is also a pdftoppm converter, and a ppm2tiff.



Thanks pdftoppm / ppm2tiff look like a very promising pair of tools.

Much faster than convert from what I've seen and very good quality at
least on the one pdf I ran as a quick test.

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Anders Johansson]

On Friday 06 April 2007 19:50:51 Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Friday 2007-04-06 at 14:07 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:
> > If it is peer to peer access is what is required e-Mule/e-Donkey is
> > another option, and there are other options. Personally do not use and
> > do not recommend P2P, security is down to the weakest link and P2P is
> > somewhat like unprotected sex... you never no what you are going to
> > catch. P2P solutions do need careful thought about security.
>
> bittorrent does have security: the initial seed or link inlcudes
> checksums.

Indeed. You can be absolutely sure that the virus you receive is identical to 
the virus that was sent

A checksum isn't security, it is fault protection

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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 14:07 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

> If it is peer to peer access is what is required e-Mule/e-Donkey is
> another option, and there are other options. Personally do not use and
> do not recommend P2P, security is down to the weakest link and P2P is
> somewhat like unprotected sex... you never no what you are going to
> catch. P2P solutions do need careful thought about security.

bittorrent does have security: the initial seed or link inlcudes 
checksums.


> > Thanks for any comments!
> 
> The thing to remember in the University environment you have a lot of
> talented individuals, and will regard any shared resource as fair game
> to so you need to think paranoid. It may be a war zone in the outside
> internet world but it can be like living in the middle of armageddon
> within a University.

X'-)

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Re: [opensuse] PDF to TIFF conversion?

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 11:32 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

> Thanks to all 3 responses, but I'm still having a few issues.

You could also try "The Gimp". I don't remember if it reads pdf directly, 
but if not, it can read ps, and there is a pdf2ps convertor.

There is also a pdftoppm converter, and a ppm2tiff.

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Re: [opensuse] adding hard drives and such

[Larry Stotler]

On 4/6/07, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Pentium 3  450Mhz and the chip set is Intel4408BX AGP


Then it's probably an  ATA/33 drive controller.  It should support the
newer drives up to 120GB, but you won't get the full speed out of
them.  You could try a PCI IDE controller, or look for a SATA
drive/controller combo.  I installed a 400GB SATA drive and controller
in my Dual P3/Xeon 500Mhz system, and it make a good bit of
difference.  Though my chipset is a 440GX, which supports ATA/66.


I looked at the boot.msg; it was pretty much Greek to me.  Somethings I
could figure out, but for the most part, when I read it I just went, huh?


No problem.  I remember those days.  If you want, send it to me as an
attachment(off list), and I will decode the info for you.  I can
pretty much tell anything you need to know about a system by reading
that file these days.
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Re: [opensuse] Screenshots look terribly in LfL

[Alexey Eremenko]

Yes, OK, I may resize all my screenshots from 1024x768 to 512x384
(half in each axis, quarter size)

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Re: [opensuse] PDF to TIFF conversion?

[Greg Freemyer]

On 4/5/07, Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thursday 05 April 2007 17:29, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> All,
>
> Is there a tool for converting PDFs to TIFFs?
>
> Command Line preferred, but not required if I can do a directories
> worth at a time.
>
> I was thinking of something like ghostscript, but I don't know if it
> can produce TIFFs.

convert  will convert almost anything...

convert   


Thanks to all 3 responses, but I'm still having a few issues.

I've found "convert +adjoin -monochrome ActiveRbacManual.pdf
ActiveRbacManual.tiff" creates single page B&W TIFFs.

Issue 1: I want greyscale, and I think the above is truly black &
white.  Is there a way to get greyscale?

Issue 2: the resolution (DPI) is only 75x75.  Unacceptably low, but
when I try adding "-density 300x300" I get:
===

convert -density 300x300 +adjoin ActiveRbacManual.pdf ActiveRbacManual.tiff

ERROR: /ioerror in --.outputpage--
Operand stack:
  1   true
Execution stack:
  %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1   3
%oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   14   1   43   --nostringval--
%for_pos_int_continue   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   0   9
%oparray_pop   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
  --dict:1142/3371(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:107/200(L)--
--dict:107/200(L)--   --dict:104/127(ro)(G)--
--dict:241/347(ro)(G)--   --dict:20/24(L)--   --dict:4/6(L)--
--dict:23/31(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: 28
ESP Ghostscript 8.15.3: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
convert: unable to read image data `/tmp/magick-XXDVMJt8'.
convert: Postscript delegate failed `ActiveRbacManual.pdf'.
convert: missing an image filename `ActiveRbacManual.tiff'.
===

I tried this in a cygwin environment and it works (very slowly), so I
guess I need to file a bug report unless someone knows that I'm doing
something wrong.

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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

[James Knott]

Tony Alfrey wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
> 
>>>
>>>   
>> I remember Knight Kits.  They had a wide range of electronic kits.  ;-)
>> http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/knight.html
>
> They had the best stuff in the world!  I built one of their two-tube
> regenerative short-wave radios that had plug-in coils for band
> switching.  It was totally outrageous!  I must have modified that
> thing a zillion ways and got more exposure to basic electronics from
> that kit (and a half-dozen other such kits) than most double-E's get
> in their first couple years of college.  I was 10.
>
>
>
>
My first exposure to electronics was an "Erectronics" kit, which had 16
projects, which were assembled on a piece of perf board.  That kit was
given to me by my grandfather.  It was originally given to an uncle, but
he didn't have much interest in it.  I was able to build receivers,
transmitters and other devices from that kit.  It came with one 1U4
triode, IIRC.  I was also about ten when I received it.





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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

[Tony Alfrey]

James Knott wrote:



  

I remember Knight Kits.  They had a wide range of electronic kits.  ;-)
http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/knight.html


They had the best stuff in the world!  I built one of their two-tube 
regenerative short-wave radios that had plug-in coils for band 
switching.  It was totally outrageous!  I must have modified that thing 
a zillion ways and got more exposure to basic electronics from that kit 
(and a half-dozen other such kits) than most double-E's get in their 
first couple years of college.  I was 10.





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Re: [opensuse] grub

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 06 April 2007 05:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> And "mc" in it ;-)

Wouldn't hurt :-)

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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

[James Knott]

Hudibras wrote:
> El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 14:43 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh escribió:
>   
>> Hudibras wrote:
>> 
>>> El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 08:39 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY escribió:
>>>   
>>>   
 --- James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
 
> bill biggs wrote:
>   
>   
>> witch one is better kde or gnome ?
>>
>>   
>> 
>> 
> Yes.
>
> Which one is better Chev or Ford?
>
>
>
>   
>   
 The correct answer is:   Honda!
 
 
>>> No! It's Michael Knight car !!! 
>>>   
>>>   
>> K.I.T.
>> 
>
> Yes! Though I think it was K.I.T.T. (I can't recall the meaning
> exactly).
>
>
>   
I remember Knight Kits.  They had a wide range of electronic kits.  ;-)
http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/knight.html


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[opensuse] Sync calendars with Windows mobile?

[Simon Roberts]

Hi all,

Against my instincts I ended up buying a windows mobile device. Can I sync this 
thing's calendar (and perhaps other elements) with my SuSE 10.2 system? If so, 
what do I need to use, what man pages should I read? I tried a simple apropos 
windows | grep mobile and came up blank.

Thanks!
Simon
 
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Re: [opensuse] Screenshots look terribly in LfL

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-06-07 04:14]:
> Screenshots look terribly in LfL !

You posted exactly the same in opensuse-doc, Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
March 24.  What was there about the answers from Rajko and Frank that
you failed to understand?  I can repost their answers if you need.

 :^)
Or do you just like to talk, like my wife!
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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[G.T.Smith]

Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> Dear list
>
> Recently I need to start a small project to distribute about 100GB
> megabytes of audio files to local university campus. I'd like to post my
> requirement hoping I can get some insightful recommendation on what
> software/technology to use to distribute these files.
>
>  1. It must be accessible from Windows linearly (e.g. FTP protocol),
> better also random access from Windows is also supported (e.g.
> samba). We must not require Windows user to install for-fee
> software in order to get the content.
>  2. It must be accessible from Linux randomly, with no client side
> tool (e.g. nfs) or free (as in beer) client side tool.
>  3. Both Linux and Windows user should be able to batch-download,
> e.g. download a whole folder and its sub-folders;
>  4. It must stand relatively heavy load;
>  5. It better can provide user a search feature so that user can
> search with keyword in file name, or even better, in mp3/ogg
> tag.
>  6. It better handle character-set difference in nice manner. e.g.
> HTTP can handle character-set difference because charset info is
> in HTTP header and charset conversion is done automatically; FTP
> cannot handle character-set difference in very nice manner, user
> have to configure their FTP client to do charset conversion, and
> most Windows FTP client software I know of do not support
> charset conversion.
>   
I think you are rather hoping you can set it up and leave it if
people start using it and it becomes popular they will need support and
unless you have plenty of time it will be wise to consider who has
access, how you monitor that access, how you stop the resource being
compromised (security), and how you are going to assist the user community.

There are other issues, your network support people may not be too happy
if your archive stuffs the network if it gets popular, you may need to
look into things like multi-casting and QoS with them. You may and your
users may not be to happy if it the server collapses under the load.
Your solution needs to take into account how many people are expected to
use the resource, how often, and from where. While 100G may not seem a
lot,  100 people accessing 100G is an awful lot of data moving around
wires.

> I am thinking about possible solutions:
>
>  1. FTP -> can handle heavy load, can do bath upload, not
> random-accessible, auto-charset conversion not supported;
>   
Hmm. usually hard work for the user. PUTTY in the Windows world does
offer a fairly simply command interface. Using cygwin on windows
machines to setup the machines up as a X terminal is a further route.
>  2. apache -> batch download not easy for users, handle charset
> conversion nicely, not random access
>   
Web is really down to how you setup the web access, it is up to you how
easy for the users to access the data and how it is presented. External
access becomes a viable option. Plenty of search options, and support
pages can be setup. Probably easiest solution because you will have
minimal security concerns, and only one thing to look after.
>  3. NFS -> I don't know any free-as-in-beer Windows client software
> for it and I don't know if that client software can do charset
> conversion; for Linux clients it's perfect;
>   
NFS within a university environment is a security no-brainer. I believe
NFS can be made to work under cygwin though I have not tried this myself.
>  4. Samba -> I don't know if charset conversion is easy with it. If
> a SuSE client connects to it, can suse client select which
> charset to use without forcing user to use commandline? And how
> about windows, can windows connect to the samba share and do
> charset conversion automatically?
>   
For raw file store access within the institution is OK. External access
usually a no-no. Sorting out authentication may be an interesting
experience if you are within an AD environment. Samba performs most of
things a domain server, you can set up the server end to use specific
character sets but the interaction with client may a bit odd if client
is configured for something different.
>  5. DC++ -> looks very nice for charset conversion, I also tried it,
> nice. But I don't know if there are Linux server-end software.
> Need to check.
>
>   
If it is peer to peer access is what is required e-Mule/e-Donkey is
another option, and there are other options. Personally do not use and
do not recommend P2P, security is down to the weakest link and P2P is
somewhat like unprotected sex... you never no what you are going to
catch. P2P solutions do need careful thought about security.

> I am thinking perhaps combine two solutions together might be the best,
> e.g. setting up FTP server for Windows users and set up NFS server for
> Linux users. Still I a

Re: [opensuse] adding hard drives and such

[dwain]

Larry Stotler wrote:
> On 4/5/07, Larry Stotler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Further, what are your system specs?  Pentium 3?  K6-2?  Athlon?
>> Speed?  Chipset?
>>
>> Look at the file /var/log/boot.msg for more system specific info.
>>
>>
Pentium 3  450Mhz and the chip set is Intel4408BX AGP

I looked at the boot.msg; it was pretty much Greek to me.  Somethings I
could figure out, but for the most part, when I read it I just went, huh?


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Re: [opensuse] grub

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 13:35 +0200, jdd wrote:

> > An advanced rescue disk, perhaps, with things like "boot installed system",
> > without having to boot the graphical install system, which takes a long
> > time.
> > 
> > And "mc" in it ;-)
> 
> and i18n for keyboard, using querty is boring :-)

Ah! I *forgot* that one! Yes!

It is way complicated to type things like / or | using the rescue system 
that assumes an US keyboard, in a Spanish keyboard!

I wonder if this is mentioned somewhere in bugzilla? Enhancement request 
perhaps? They are going to be sick of my sight, I just entered three 
reports there on kbabel... O:-p

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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Hudibras wrote:
> El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 14:43 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh escribió:
>   
>> Hudibras wrote:
>> 
>>> El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 08:39 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY escribió:
>>>   
>>>   
 --- James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
 
> bill biggs wrote:
>   
>   
>> witch one is better kde or gnome ?
>> 
> Yes.
>
> Which one is better Chev or Ford?  
>   
 The correct answer is:   Honda!
 
 
>>> No! It's Michael Knight car !!! 
>>>   
>>>   
>> K.I.T.
>> 
>
> Yes! Though I think it was K.I.T.T. (I can't recall the meaning
> exactly).
>
>   
Your right. It is K.I.T.T.. Knight Industries Two Thousand

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Re: [opensuse] grub

[jdd]

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 05:19 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:


It would be very nice to have it ealier, though...
What would be nice to have early is "advanced options" menu item, that will 
allow experienced users to use few exotic boot or installation options, or to 
direct new users what to do with lesser words.  


An advanced rescue disk, perhaps, with things like "boot installed 
system", without having to boot the graphical install system, which takes 
a long time.


And "mc" in it ;-)


and i18n for keyboard, using querty is boring :-)

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[opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?

[Zhang Weiwu]

Dear list

Recently I need to start a small project to distribute about 100GB
megabytes of audio files to local university campus. I'd like to post my
requirement hoping I can get some insightful recommendation on what
software/technology to use to distribute these files.

 1. It must be accessible from Windows linearly (e.g. FTP protocol),
better also random access from Windows is also supported (e.g.
samba). We must not require Windows user to install for-fee
software in order to get the content.
 2. It must be accessible from Linux randomly, with no client side
tool (e.g. nfs) or free (as in beer) client side tool.
 3. Both Linux and Windows user should be able to batch-download,
e.g. download a whole folder and its sub-folders;
 4. It must stand relatively heavy load;
 5. It better can provide user a search feature so that user can
search with keyword in file name, or even better, in mp3/ogg
tag.
 6. It better handle character-set difference in nice manner. e.g.
HTTP can handle character-set difference because charset info is
in HTTP header and charset conversion is done automatically; FTP
cannot handle character-set difference in very nice manner, user
have to configure their FTP client to do charset conversion, and
most Windows FTP client software I know of do not support
charset conversion.

I am thinking about possible solutions:

 1. FTP -> can handle heavy load, can do bath upload, not
random-accessible, auto-charset conversion not supported;
 2. apache -> batch download not easy for users, handle charset
conversion nicely, not random access
 3. NFS -> I don't know any free-as-in-beer Windows client software
for it and I don't know if that client software can do charset
conversion; for Linux clients it's perfect;
 4. Samba -> I don't know if charset conversion is easy with it. If
a SuSE client connects to it, can suse client select which
charset to use without forcing user to use commandline? And how
about windows, can windows connect to the samba share and do
charset conversion automatically?
 5. DC++ -> looks very nice for charset conversion, I also tried it,
nice. But I don't know if there are Linux server-end software.
Need to check.

I am thinking perhaps combine two solutions together might be the best,
e.g. setting up FTP server for Windows users and set up NFS server for
Linux users. Still I am not sure what's the best solution, and there
might be better solutions than what I listed that I never heard of.

* In all above discussion "charset conversion" means charset conversion
for file names, not the content. Content is in mp3/ogg format.

Thanks for any comments!

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Re: [opensuse] grub

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> > It would be very nice to have it ealier, though...
> 
> What would be nice to have early is "advanced options" menu item, that will 
> allow experienced users to use few exotic boot or installation options, or to 
> direct new users what to do with lesser words.  

An advanced rescue disk, perhaps, with things like "boot installed 
system", without having to boot the graphical install system, which takes 
a long time.

And "mc" in it ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] non-visible links/menus in seamonkey SOLVED

[Istvan Gabor]

Hello:

I did some troubleshooting and found that "allow scripts to 
change images"  checkbox under Preferences/Advanced/Scripts 
& Plug-ins was disabled.  After reenabling it the problem 
disappeared.

I usually disable all of these scripting options both in firefox 
and seamonkey. As in firefox there is no checkbox for disabling 
"allow scripts to change images" the problem did not appear in 
firefox.

I can't see how this is related to the menu links, though.

Thanks again,
IG



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Re: [opensuse] Krdc Problem

[Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.]

Thanks for the reply.  But, as I said in the first paragraph of my 
message, I can still access the office machine from the Win XP 
machine on my study LAN.


At 02:29 AM 4/6/2007, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:

On Friday 06 April 2007 04:22:44 am Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. wrote:
> Krdc used to work before I upgraded my system to the 64 bit openSUSE.
> In fact connection to a remote computer (my office) still works on a Win
> XP machine.
>
> When I attempt the remote connection Krdc hangs on the Establishing
> connection box.  However, I can access the Win XP machine on my LAN.
>
> What do I have to change on the linux machine to access my office machine?

To access your computer in the office from home most likely requires port
forwarding to be set up in your office router (or equipment that does SNAT,
or what have you).

You can access the WinXP machine in the LAN because you have direct TCP/IP
connection to it.  That is you're in the same network.

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Re: [opensuse] grub

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 06 April 2007 04:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> ...
>
> > The biggest question for me here is why does the linucs boot cd hide the
> > "boot to an installed system" option so hard. I have always wondered
> > about that and i wish the suse boyz and gals change it it really
> > belongs to the very first boot disk screen,  right there with ttthe other
> > startup options...
>
> Because it can't.
>
> It is not a grub option. Remember it does some analysis of all the
> partitions to find suitable ones to boot from, so it needs some kind of
> linux already running.

Linux already installed, I guess, to boot installed system, and restore grub.
The "boot to an installed system" is used when grub is hosed, so making it 
very visible to inexperienced users is call for trouble. 


> It would be very nice to have it ealier, though...

What would be nice to have early is "advanced options" menu item, that will 
allow experienced users to use few exotic boot or installation options, or to 
direct new users what to do with lesser words.  

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Re: [opensuse] non-visible links/menus in seamonkey

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2007-04-06 03:04, Istvan Gabor wrote:
>> Which version of Seamonkey? What I see in 1.1.1 looks 
>> 
> identical to 
> your
>   
>> firefox screenshot.
>> 
>
> seamonkey-1.1.1-15.1
>   
Hmm, I actually have the one before this, -10.1. I notice in the
repodata that -15.1 updates the Gecko engine to 1.8.1.3 (20070325), so I
am guessing that here is where the problem lies. (I don't know what
version of the engine is in my seamonkey version.) I am quite sure that
the additional components I have installed cannot possibly be
responsible for the difference in behaviour:

~> rpm -qa seamonkey*
seamonkey-dom-inspector-1.1.1-10.1
seamonkey-venkman-1.1.1-10.1
seamonkey-spellchecker-1.1.1-10.1
seamonkey-mail-1.1.1-10.1
seamonkey-1.1.1-10.1

In reply to Carlos's note, I denied all cookies from the website.

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Re: [opensuse] unsubscribeunsubscribeunsubscribeunsubscribeunsubscribeunsubscribeunsubscribeuns

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Re: [opensuse] adding hard drives and such

[Carlos E. R.]

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El 2007-04-05 a las 23:07 -0400, Larry Stotler escribió:

(you forgot to email to the list)

> On 4/5/07, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > With any type of raid, any level?
> > I can understand this working with a mirror set: the kernel can load from
> > any one side. But what about level 5, for instance? There is no single
> > driver from which to load the kernel, you have to read from the three in
> > the precise order.
(I meant drive, not driver)
> 
> With initrd, it shouldn't matter.  The initrd ramdisk is small and
> loaded first, but probably should be on the first disk, since you have
> to specify a partition.  That's why I never liked software RAID.

In my understanding, it would matter, because to read the initrd you need 
to be able to read the array. It would only work if grub code is able to 
read from a raid 5 unaided (both the kernel and initrd have to be read and 
loaded by the bootloader).

> Further, with an LVM, if you lose the first drive, then(from my
> understanding), you can't get any data off the other drives.  That's
> why I don't use it.

Dunno about that. 

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Re: [opensuse] grub

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Wednesday 2007-04-04 at 00:37 -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
> The biggest question for me here is why does the linucs boot cd hide the 
> "boot 
> to an installed system" option so hard. I have always wondered about that and 
> i wish the suse boyz and gals change it it really belongs to the very 
> first boot disk screen,  right there with ttthe other startup options...

Because it can't.

It is not a grub option. Remember it does some analysis of all the 
partitions to find suitable ones to boot from, so it needs some kind of 
linux already running.

It would be very nice to have it ealier, though...

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Re: [opensuse] non-visible links/menus in seamonkey

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The Thursday 2007-04-05 at 13:18 +0200, Istvan Gabor wrote:

> I noticed that certain links are not shown in seamonkey.
> Here is an example:
> 
> http://www.hasznaltauto.hu/
> 
> In firefox a list of menus can be seen in a row on the top of the 
> page:
> Ingyen hirdetés  Szolgáltatásaink  Ajánljuk  Hasznos  Kapcsolat

They show in my seamonkey, at least after accepting some cookies.

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seamonkey-dom-inspector-1.1.1-0.1
seamonkey-spellchecker-1.1.1-0.1
seamonkey-irc-1.1.1-0.1
seamonkey-1.1.1-0.1

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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-04-06 at 10:35 +0200, Hudibras wrote:

> > >> The correct answer is:   Honda!
> > >> 
> > >
> > > No! It's Michael Knight car !!! 
> > >   
> > K.I.T.
> 
> Yes! Though I think it was K.I.T.T. (I can't recall the meaning
> exactly).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.I.T.T.

| KITT (an acronym for Knight Industries Two Thousand) is the name of a 
| fictional computer that controls the high-tech Knight 2000, a black 
| Pontiac Trans Am T-top automobile in the science fiction television 
| series Knight Rider. The voice for KITT was provided by St. Elsewhere 
| and 1776 star William Daniels, who requested that he not be credited for 
| his work.

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Re: [opensuse] grub

[frank nelson]

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> The biggest question for me here is why does the
> linucs boot cd hide the "boot 
> to an installed system" option so hard. I have
> always wondered about that and 
> i wish the suse boyz and gals change it it
> really belongs to the very 
> first boot disk screen,  right there with ttthe
> other startup options...

It's item 1, on my boot screen. Not very hidden here.

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Re: [opensuse] non-visible links/menus in seamonkey

[Istvan Gabor]

> Which version of Seamonkey? What I see in 1.1.1 looks 
identical to 
your
> firefox screenshot.

Hi Darryl:

Thanks for your answer.

I have the latest seamonkey and firefox versions.

~> rpm -qa|grep -i seamonkey
seamonkey-mail-1.1.1-15.1
seamonkey-irc-1.1.1-15.1
seamonkey-1.1.1-15.1

rpm -qa|grep -i firefox
beagle-firefox-0.2.12-39.18
MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2
MozillaFirefox-translations-2.0.0.3-3.2

All these are on openSUSE 10.2 with KDE 3.5.6 (kdebase3-
3.5.6-58.2).

Furthermore I tested Seamonkey-1.1.1 and Firefox 2.0.0.2 on 
a Windows 98 machine and the result was the same, ie in 
seamonkey the indicated menu bar was not shown.

I have installed only 3 components of seamonkey, browser, 
chatzilla and mail, though. (Both in linux and windows.)
Can the lack of another component cause the problem?

Thanks again,
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Re: [opensuse] How to speed up zypper system?

[Jan Kupec]

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Hi, we are working on speeding it up. For now, if you need to do several
things with zypper, one after another, you can use `zypper shell'

Regards,

jano


Magiclouds Magicloud wrote:
> Dear all,
>I have a lot of installation sources, so my zypper is very slow on
> parsing or searching. Could it be faster if I combine the sources into
> one manually?

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Re: [opensuse] easiest-to-maintain and trouble-free VPN solution?

[Theo v. Werkhoven]

Fri, 06 Apr 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> for simple Home VPN, Hamachi VPN is best. Google for it.

Personaly I don't think that an app with security in mind should use
intermediate server to (be able to) establish a connection between
peers or server and clients.
I know our IT head wouldn't like that.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 apps and cross platform

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 06 April 2007 02:49, Abstract wrote:
> All,
>
> I have been reading a lot about KDE lately and the one thing that
> always got me was that none of the GREAT KDE apps were available to
> run on Windows (or other operating systems).  For example, you have
> Gimp, GAIM, VLC ( i know its not gnome based, but an example of
> another great app) which all run on Linux and windows.

The application development for different platform is a lot of work to rewrite 
the code to compile and run on that platform. Even for similar platforms from 
Unix Like camp that is not simple. After release someone has to keep code up 
to date, which is not simple either as whole Linux ecosystem is running 
target. 

Your examples will ask for installed GTk interface for windows. 

If someone wants to do that there is no barriers that prevents volunteers like 
in proprietary solutions. 

> With the release of KDE4 there has been talk of being able to run apps
> cross platform so we could see the explosion of such things as amarok
> (every time I use it, i am just stunned , it is fantastic) , Kopete,
> or any other KDE specific app.

Expression "Cross platform" doesn't automatically include platforms that are 
created to be different, isolated development space. While to you as user it 
seems similar, under the hood it is very different and it would ask for 
complete rewrite of the code. 

> Is this in the plan for the future?  If Evolution and Amarok were
> cross platform it would be another nail in the coffin (many more to
> go) for closed source apps.

What is the purpose? 
KDE is created to promote usability of Linux; a better OS solution. 
Porting applications will be the nail in own coffin.
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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

[Hudibras]

El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 14:43 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh escribió:
> Hudibras wrote:
> > El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 08:39 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY escribió:
> >   
> >> --- James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>> bill biggs wrote:
> >>>   
>  witch one is better kde or gnome ?
> 
>    
>  
> >>> Yes.
> >>>
> >>> Which one is better Chev or Ford?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >> The correct answer is:   Honda!
> >> 
> >
> > No! It's Michael Knight car !!! 
> >   
> K.I.T.

Yes! Though I think it was K.I.T.T. (I can't recall the meaning
exactly).


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Re: [opensuse] Some questions about performance evaluation.

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 05 April 2007, Magiclouds Magicloud wrote:
> Dear all,
> Could I make one or more processes run only on certain CPU(s)? 

man taskset


>  And  thread? 
Any thread started by a taskset process will share its processor affinity.


> Could I make some of the memory disappear from most of the kernel 
> and user space? 

Perhaps use a ramdisk?
http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html



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Re: [opensuse] how-to customize KDE - ubuntu-like ?

[Alexey Eremenko]

Did you see how much space it saves ?
A LOT ! ! !

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[opensuse] Screenshots look terribly in LfL

[Alexey Eremenko]

Hi all !

Screenshots look terribly in LfL !

I have just submitted two made at 1024x768 resolution, but applied
them to be 90% of browser instead of full-size. Text is absolutely
unreadable.

What to do?

My recommendation: Make them clickable (on HTML) page, so one can
access to full-size screenshots, if he so wishes, to see details.



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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 apps and cross platform

[Alexey Eremenko]

Well, yes, you understand it correctly. KDE 4 applications will be
cross-platform. (Linux+Windows+Mac). Throught I don't know yet which
versions of Windows will be supported...


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[opensuse] KDE4 apps and cross platform

[Abstract]

All,

I have been reading a lot about KDE lately and the one thing that
always got me was that none of the GREAT KDE apps were available to
run on Windows (or other operating systems).  For example, you have
Gimp, GAIM, VLC ( i know its not gnome based, but an example of
another great app) which all run on Linux and windows.

With the release of KDE4 there has been talk of being able to run apps
cross platform so we could see the explosion of such things as amarok
(every time I use it, i am just stunned , it is fantastic) , Kopete,
or any other KDE specific app.

Is this in the plan for the future?  If Evolution and Amarok were
cross platform it would be another nail in the coffin (many more to
go) for closed source apps.

As always, great work from all the developers and team members, I
cannot fathom how you guys get any of this done.

Kind Regards
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Re: [opensuse] Some questions about performance evaluation.

[Rajko M.]

On Thursday 05 April 2007 23:45, Magiclouds Magicloud wrote:
> Using this clue, I have got some information, thanks.
> But, as description of "maxcpus", I think I can not specify the cpus I
> want to use, right?
>
> 2007/4/6, Rajko M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Thursday 05 April 2007 22:31, Magiclouds Magicloud wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > > Could I make one or more processes run only on certain CPU(s)? And
> > > thread? Could I make some of the memory disappear from most of the
> > > kernel and user space? So I can evaluate performance on a smaller
> > > memory without removing them physically.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > First question is probably about multiprocessor systems.
> > I know that it is possible to use
> >  maxcpus=0
> > to make system use only one CPU,
> >  maxcpus=1
> > will use 2 of them, etc.
> >  mem=128M
> > will use only 128 MB from whatever is installed.
> >
> > BTW, a little of Google may help you faster.
...
> Using this clue, I have got some information, thanks.
> But, as description of "maxcpus", I think I can not specify the cpus I
> want to use, right?

The maxcpus tells kernel how many CPUs you want to use, nothing more. 

I guess that each CPU has it's device ID, so basically it is possible to 
isolate the one that you want to use, but I'm not aware of parameters that 
can be passed to kernel to select particular one.


BTW, please note how I edited your answer. bottom posting helps all the people 
to read your posts and want to answer. 
Here is explanation why
  http://en.opensuse.org/Opensuse_mailing_list_netiquette#Bottom%20post

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