Re: Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] Update from 10/23/07 broke X-Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Meissner schreef: patch-xorg-x11-server-4595 was just released, Ciao, Marcus These are allright, (and KDE4 boots again ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIJyMX5/X5X6LpDgRAjLVAKCGaJTwmdhn65Tf819LUdaUXahTGQCgjD0P qY+iLsbJXY9NqUrR/vpn2Lw= =Ff4I -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Music Tags in windows not writable while ntfs-3g is on in 10.3GM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 See fstab: /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_HDS722516VLAT80_VN643ECDEW7U8F-part1 /windows/C ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=nl_NL.UTF-8 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_HDS722516VLAT80_VN643ECDEW7U8F-part5 /windows/D ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=nl_NL.UTF-8 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_HDS722516VLAT80_VN643ECDEW7U8F-part7 /windows/E ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=nl_NL.UTF-8 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_HDS722516VLAT80_VN643ECDEW7U8F-part8 /windows/F ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=nl_NL.UTF-8 0 0 The versions from beta2 - updated to GM did work.. This version is the dvd gm version. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIJblX5/X5X6LpDgRAqMqAKCiaCIPAcW+/WPKIzQ3ON2xy2L28QCfWMYj GgQ6e+H4zYGhaGAV7q4BOkY= =hT8n -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
On 10/20/07, Ben Kevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 09:02:47 pm David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Please report back on the installation / configuration of Compiz Fusion etc.. http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2007/10/24/ati-8433-on-opensuse-the-hard-way/ Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Unalbe to play WMV files in opensuse10.3
Thankyou Bryen and Vavai, I am new to linux and has just said bye to windows. So dont know much about stuff. I'll try this out once i reach back home. In the evening. On 10/25/07, Masim Vavai Sugianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/07, Biju CP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am unable to play the WMV files in my suse linux, I have almost every player installed in my system. Do i need to download any other player or any other codec packages for xine, vlc, or real player will suffice. -- Thanks Regards --- Biju. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biju, Have you tried one-click-install feature for multimedia supports as mentioned at http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia ? Best Regards, Vavai http://www.vavai.net -- Thanks Regards --- Biju. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] F12 - Kerry Beagle Serach — How To Reassign Shortcut?
On Thursday 25 October 2007 05:48:07 Randall R Schulz wrote: Still: ... why is it apart from the other KDE shortcut configurations? It's still not a part of kde, and kcontrol still doesn't have any settings for any third-party (non-core-kde) packages -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slightly OT: Like Apple Remote Desktop.
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 21:52 -0400, steve reilly wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been administering the linux side via scripts for the most part, but I'm sure someone must have made a tool like Remote Desktop for Linux by now. Any ideas? Krdc works great for me. It works great for remote desktop-ing to windows machines, but to Linux machines I use NX (nomachine version, from the site, they provide suse rpms), its free for Linux (windows client aswell) and its much smoother than VNC. Also, it uses ssh by default to tunnel the remote session, so its secure. Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slightly OT: Like Apple Remote Desktop.
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 08:53 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 21:52 -0400, steve reilly wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been administering the linux side via scripts for the most part, but I'm sure someone must have made a tool like Remote Desktop for Linux by now. Any ideas? Krdc works great for me. It works great for remote desktop-ing to windows machines, but to Linux machines I use NX (nomachine version, from the site, they provide suse rpms), its free for Linux (windows client aswell) and its much smoother than VNC. Also, it uses ssh by default to tunnel the remote session, so its secure. Hans I just stumbled on this on the kdedev site. http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3071 Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [os] New Printer Info
Hello, On Oct 24 15:10 Martin Nopola wrote (shortened): I went with the HP vote a month ago and bought an HPLaserjet1018 from Tigerdirect for $130 without checking the driver situation. Much to my surprise the HP website said they don't support Linux. Why much to your surprise when you didn't check the driver situation for such a cheap (laser)-printer? Do you really think you can get more back than you give away? Sometimes you may have luck but in general of course not. The manufacturer, the vendor and all who are involved before you get it (or after you got it via expensive supplies), know how to cut away their portion (and companies who don't know die out). But much to your surprise even this cheap piece of crap is meanwhile supported by HPLIP version 2.7.10, see http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/laser.html There is a new LJZjsMono device class for ZJStream printers. ZJStream printers require JBIG which has patent issues, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263181 Therefore the support for ZJStream printers can be provided only via a binary-only plugin which is downloaded by hp-setup from the HP web-site only after the user has accepted the license terms. This patent/license stuff was the reason why the HPLIP people at HP needed so much longer to get even such crap to work with a driver and operating system where the basic idea behind is freedom (like in free speech). I don't have a ZJStream printer to test it on my own so that I don't know if it really works. If you have at least Suse Linux 10.1: I provide for testing HPLIP 2.7.10 for the released openSUSE 10.3, openSUSE 10.2, Suse Linux 10.1, Suse Linux Enterprise 10 (SLE 10), and for the openSUSE development version openSUSE factory for 32-bit Intel compatible (i586) and 64-bit AMD (x86_64) via the openSUSE build service at http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/jsmeix/ The packages are * only for testing * without any guarantee or warranty * without any support As an extreme example, this means that if your complete computer center crashes because of these packages, it is only your problem. Nevertheless, I am very interested in your feedback because the more people test it, the more problems (even hidden problems) are revealed. If you find a problem and you think it is not a general HPLIP issue but a Novell/Suse-specific issue, please follow the instructions in http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports and http://en.opensuse.org/Bug_Reporting_FAQ how to send me feedback or bug reports via the openSUSE Bugzilla. Choose the component Printing (also for scanning/faxing with HPLIP). Make it obvious which package, which package version, which hardware architecture and which openSUSE version you are talking about, e.g.: Feedback regarding hplip-2.7.10-19.1.i586.rpm and hplip-hpijs-2.7.10-19.1.i586.rpm from http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/jsmeix/ for openSUSE 10.3 used on 64-bit AMD hardware. Ideally provide also the rpm -q --changelog hplip | head output to make it unambiguous which exact package release you have. The openSUSE Bugzilla is a bug tracking system but no support forum. This means that my packages are in any case without any support. Some special notes reagarding my packages: We (i.e. Novell/Suse) provide /etc/udev/rules.d/55-hpmud.rules with a changed file owner setting than in HP's original. We changed the owner from lp to root to avoid that the permissions can be changed by any CUPS filter or backend because both run usually as user lp. For more details regarding my current packages, see http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=Pine.LNX.4.64.0707040850200.22081%40nelson.suse.de Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] mplayer svn version
can i get download link for mplayer svn? (of course with all deps) my mplayer doesn't work since i install 10.3 (i have download mplayer n all deps on packman, but bad sound produced) vlc is good but i used to use mplayer thanks, tambun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
CyberOrg wrote: On 10/20/07, Ben Kevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 09:02:47 pm David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Please report back on the installation / configuration of Compiz Fusion etc.. http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2007/10/24/ati-8433-on-opensuse-the-hard-way/ Cheers -J The Bug is that the install left different versions of the libraries in different places. Specifically, the file: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 391344 2007-09-21 20:34 libGL.so.1.2* was left in /usr/lib and was conflicting with the new library in 02:43 Rankin-P35a~/linux/usr/lib l /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2007-10-25 01:20 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so - libGL.so.1* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2007-10-25 01:20 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 - libGL.so.1.2* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 679655 2007-10-25 01:18 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2* The solution was to move the old libGL.so.1.2 and replace it with a link to /usr/X11r6/libGL.so.1.2 Now fgl_glxgears and fglrxinfo will work as they should. However after gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and reboot, compiz is non-operational on the laptop. The desktop appears, the mouse will move, but that is it, the rest is DOA. ctrl+alt+backspace kills X but results in the frozen black sax screen from hell. I don't get it. 3D is blazing after correcting the library conflict, but still no compiz. It took less than 5 minutes on my box with the nvidia card, but still no joy here. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 and virtualbox problems
actually i wanna make virtualbox as simple as vmware. i've got problem on networking section esp on nat, ok this is on my system HOST IP ADD: 10.126.12.4 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 default gw: 10.126.12.1 then why i cant connect to the host with this conf GUEST IP ADD: 10.126.12.38 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 default gw: 10.126.12.1 with that conf i can ping the host from guest vice versa on vmware I've installed from rpm package. any suggestion? should i installed from common linux installer not from rpm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kmail signatures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have no idea... I prefer cider :-p my favorite too, muzak plays this jingle endlessly in my store, I can now sing it in my sleep lol http://www.woodchuck.com/Portals/1/Best_of_Show.wma -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHH+6mCF89bP00wLgRArrTAKCgCUKzMNtTiyXx2f8Hr2HT0XkZeACgmnyz VeeQPDDWlKTsijW7kCFoCPg= =NrvR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
On 10/25/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CyberOrg wrote: On 10/20/07, Ben Kevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 09:02:47 pm David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Please report back on the installation / configuration of Compiz Fusion etc.. http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2007/10/24/ati-8433-on-opensuse-the-hard-way/ Now fgl_glxgears and fglrxinfo will work as they should. However after gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and reboot, compiz is non-operational on the laptop. The desktop appears, the mouse will move, but that is it, Xgl is not required as shown in the the post above, we are configuring AIGLX. If you don't do anything extra and blindly follow each step there you should get a working Compiz with 8.42. You have leftover libGL everywhere because you need clean install of openSUSE or cleanly uninstalled earlier fglrx drivers: rpm -e x11-video-fglrxG01-8.40.4-1 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.40.4_2.6.22.9_0.4-1.i586 way or sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh. -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Adding http repositories doesn't work
Patrick Shanahan napsal(a): * Martin Oberzalek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-24-07 17:18]: [...] So, I fixed the Bug now. diff -r -u libzypp-3.26.3/zypp/media/MediaCurl.cc libzypp-3.26.3-kingleo/zypp/media/MediaCurl.cc The interested developers *may* not see your fix here. Please submit it to:http://bugzilla.novell.com I've already forwarded that mail (with patch) to zypp-devel at opensuse.org which is the mailing-list of libzypp developers, however attaching it to bugzilla is even better. Bye Lukas signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[opensuse] mp3 and wav support for amarok
From where can I download the rpms needed for mp3 and wav support in amarok for openSuSE 10.2? I don't want to use yast, I only need to download the necessary rpms. -- Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mp3 and wav support for amarok
On 10/25/07, Cristea Bogdan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From where can I download the rpms needed for mp3 and wav support in amarok for openSuSE 10.2? I don't want to use yast, I only need to download the necessary rpms. -- Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helo Bogdan Cristea, Getting Amarok ready with mp3 support is quite easy, just follow this tutorial : http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_openSUSE_10.2 Vavai http://www.vavai.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] keyboard mouse lockup
HI Guys, On Wednesday 24 October 2007 21:56:47 Randall R Schulz wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 12:26, Robert Lewis wrote: For the last three or four version of SUSE (other Linux variants too) my old machine keyboard/mouse will lockup usually with in 5-30 minutes. snip Randall Schulz Got the same problem here on 10.3 on an ASUS M2V-MX. Locked up tight last night around midnight. Left the PC on overnight came back to it this morning and the PC is running fine. My mouse and keyboard are the Medion wireless set. These plug into the PS2 ports from the receiver. -- Kindest regards, Clive http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.rogers/ Fighting for darker skies. From 52:26ºN 01:27ºW (Coventry, UK) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [os] New Printer Info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 09:20 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote: On Oct 24 15:10 Martin Nopola wrote (shortened): I went with the HP vote a month ago and bought an HPLaserjet1018 from Tigerdirect for $130 without checking the driver situation. Much to my surprise the HP website said they don't support Linux. Why much to your surprise when you didn't check the driver situation for such a cheap (laser)-printer? Maybe he thought that all HP printers were supported. I wasn't aware that some are and some are not, too. It's a lesson for us all: check before we buy, don't assume it will work in linux just because some other hardware from the same brand works. And even when we check we are bitten: I got a haupauge 1300 tvcard and it doesn't fully work, for instance. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIGSotTMYHG2NR9URAsNyAKCRakwg4Te/XmHMDVOATMq9UaK1UQCghk2f XqPOdquyi/sRGPWZz0CJEEk= =j7Le -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MPlayer documentation
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 01:32:21 pm Stan Goodman wrote: To clarify: I understand that this is the only CD I need to run to upgrade the OS proper, including KDE. I will run it in the usual way, as I did for the first install of v10.2, and let it run until it asks me for CD2, at which time the exercise is complete. It will not ask you for the CD2 as there is no such thing in openSUSE 10.3. There is either KDE single CD or GNOME single CD, and DVD with both. The software that is not on CD or DVD is available online on FTP or HTTP servers. Be aware that if installer of openSUSE 10.3 find working Internet connection it will attempt to download much more than it is present on CD. With slow Internet it can be very long download that can't be interrupted or installation will fail. I have no exact number but it can be between 2 and 3 GB. To avoid that: 1- turn Internet off before installation, 2- save your data from openSUSE 10.2 (make backup) 3- install openSUSE 10.3 (select New Installation) * be aware that if you don't install on a new partition (some 10 GB, but more is better) it will format you existing partition and all data that are not saved will be lost * installation runs in 2 phase with reboot after first phase to start new installed kernel. It is done when you see the message telling you that installation is complete and your newly installed system will be started (this time it will happen without reboot as new kernel is already running). 4- start YaST and configure network and Internet 5- run YOU (YaST Online Update) as there are already some patches for 10.3 After all above is done you will have running openSUSE 10.3 and you can add applications from Internet repositories with smaller downloads, while you are using computer. The other option, loading all patches for 10.2 would also ask for huge download and as result you will have older version of openSUSE that is missing a lot of new features. What will have been updated is KDE and possibly other elements of the OS itself; the kernel is unchanged however? Lets call small change update, and big change upgrade. Installation of 10.3 will be upgrade. Everything, including kernel, will be new. There is small problem with naming upgrade vs. update. In openSUSE everything is called update, big or small change, but there are different levels: - If you go from openSUSE 10.2 to 10.3 it will be called System Update and, as it is mentioned, is a large change - In case that you update KDE for 10.3 to newer version of KDE (still compiled for 10.3) it will be considered as (normal) update. In future, when asked for any CD beyond CD1, I am to use the disks from the v10.2 set. The openSUSE 10.2 CD set will be useless. When I used example with windows I tried to tell you that: - openSUSE 10.2 is one operating system, and - openSUSE 10.3 is another. Only one number difference in the name means a lot of changes. Programs designed for 10.2 generally don't work under 10.3. There are some exceptions, but elaborate answer is far beyond email article (and my knowledge). For instance YaST and zypper are much faster and have new features missing in 10.2. Many people upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3 for this single reason, and there is many more. Is all that correct? As you can see it isn't, but installing openSUSE 10.3 will give you brand new software. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 and 10.3 will not play video files.
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 22:27 -0600, Wendell Nichols wrote: They say that this indicates a buggy Xv extension. I'm running xorg-x11-libXv-7.2-61 as one would expect in suse 10.3. They suggested I reduce my resolution or screen depth, which I did to no avail.(even at 8 bpp) ... Anyway if anyone ha suggestions about how I can get xv working... I'm all ears... (eyes?) It's probably some Xorg bug. I've got some Xorg packages after updating my system yesterday and I didn't notice the problem so far. I don't know if that has something to do with that, but I have nVidia GeForce 6200 and I use nVidia proprietary driver. -- Igor Jagec signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[opensuse] ddd for opensuse10.2
Dear my friends... I need debugging tool for debug my perl script. I use perldebug. but some features of ddd are more interesting for me. I use OpenSuSE10.2, I installed v.3.3 from its DVD. but this version does not understand perl. The error message was: /home/patrikh/sementara/parserku.pl: not in executable format: File format not recognized. I download from http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/ version 3.3.11 . But I can't install it, the error message is: configure: error: The Motif include file 'Xm/Xm.h' could not be found. Please use the configure options '--with-motif-includes=DIR' and '--with-motif-libraries=DIR' to specify the Xm location. See the files 'config.log' and 'ddd/config.log' for further diagnostics. I downloaded from: http://www.lesstif.org/download.html . suseonthelap:/home/patrikh/arsip/installer-on-puppy/lesstif # rpm -iv ./lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: devel(libdl) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libexpat) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libfontconfig) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libfreetype) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libICE) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libSM) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libX11) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libXext) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libXft) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libXp) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libXrender) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libXt) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 devel(libz) is needed by lesstif-0.95.0-1.i586 suseonthelap:/home/patrikh/arsip/installer-on-puppy/lesstif # rpm -iv ./lesstif-mwm-0.95.0-1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libXm.so.2 is needed by lesstif-mwm-0.95.0-1.i586 suseonthelap:/home/patrikh/arsip/installer-on-puppy/lesstif # Dependancy problem is also happened in installing other files (lesstif-0.95.0-1.src.rpm, lesstif-clients-0.95.0-1.i586.rpm, lesstif-devel-0.95.0-1.i586.rpm . Could anybody be so nice for telling me where I can get the newer ddd which understand perl for opensuse10.2? Thank you very much in advance. -- Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Junior Programmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [os] New Printer Info
Hello, On Oct 25 11:40 Carlos E. R. wrote (shortened): It's a lesson for us all: check before we buy, don't assume it will work in linux just because some other hardware from the same brand works. And even when we check we are bitten: I got a haupauge 1300 tvcard and it doesn't fully work, for instance. There are shops/dealers who take it back if it doesn't work for Linux (and give it away for those other operating systems for which the manufacturer provides his non-free drivers ;-) Of course via such dealers it is usually a bit more expensive than in an arbitrary shop. By the way: Sometimes it happens that the manufacturer changes the internal stuff of a piece of hardware (chips, firmware, ...) a bit so that the new series is not fully backward compatible, see for example the entry regarding the Artec Ultima 2000 scanners at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html --- Ultima 2000 USB 0x05d8/0x4002: Good. Works, only product id 0x4002 is supported Ultima 2000 USB 0x05d8/0x4001: Unsupported. Same name, but different ids: This scanner is not supported. The scanner with product id 0x4002 is supported by the gt68xx backend, however. --- In the above example the manufacturer changed the USB ID but I think there are also even worse examples where the hardware changed in a non-compatible way under the same IDs. It is practically impossible for a normal user to be safe against such pitfalls which are set up by the manufacturers. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ddd for opensuse10.2
Hi On 10/25/07, Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use OpenSuSE10.2, I installed v.3.3 from its DVD. but this version does not understand perl. The error message was: /home/patrikh/sementara/parserku.pl: not in executable format: File format not recognized. I used DDD for Perl scripts on openSUSE 10.2 without any problem and without any adjustment (installed during OS installation). Just ddd script name should work. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] opensuse 10.3 updates breaking login to kde
Hi, Over the last couple of days I have applied the opensuse 10.3 updates as notified by zypper. Three of theses updates have broken my login to KDE. I was still able to login via a console screen. These are the updates that caused the first problem. After the updates were applied, when I tried to log into KDE, the screen went black and then returned to the login screen. libopenssl-devel 4476-0 libopenssl-devel 4560-0 The .xsession-errors file indicated an openssl version problem. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of that file now. The fix to this problem was to reinstall the original openssl packages from the opensuse 10.3 dvd from the console using the following command. rpm --oldpackage -Uvh openssl-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm libopenssl0_9_8-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm openssl-certs-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm libopenssl-devel-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm The second problem occurred when I installed the following x11-server update. I was unable to move my mouse pointer or enter text into the password field. I could still login via the text console. This was the offending patch xorg-x11-server 4595-0 The fix to this problem was to reinstall the original x11-server package from the opensuse 10.3 dvd from the console using the following command. rpm --oldpackage -Uvh xorg-x11-server-7.2-143.i586.rpm I have been googling the problem but can't find any mention of this problem I'm not sure if I have a problem with my install or if this is a known issue. Is this the right place to be posting this issue? Thanks. Cheers, Barrie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 updates breaking login to kde
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:54:53PM +1000, Barrie Hill wrote: Hi, Over the last couple of days I have applied the opensuse 10.3 updates as notified by zypper. Three of theses updates have broken my login to KDE. I was still able to login via a console screen. These are the updates that caused the first problem. After the updates were applied, when I tried to log into KDE, the screen went black and then returned to the login screen. libopenssl-devel 4476-0 libopenssl-devel 4560-0 The .xsession-errors file indicated an openssl version problem. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of that file now. The fix to this problem was to reinstall the original openssl packages from the opensuse 10.3 dvd from the console using the following command. rpm --oldpackage -Uvh openssl-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm libopenssl0_9_8-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm openssl-certs-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm libopenssl-devel-0.9.8e-45.i586.rpm This happens if you have the FACTORY repository added. The security patch for openssl will pull in the _FACTORY_ openssl version instead of the of the _SECURITY_ update version. While the provides/requirements all fit, the FACTORY version is binary incompatible. The second problem occurred when I installed the following x11-server update. I was unable to move my mouse pointer or enter text into the password field. I could still login via the text console. This was the offending patch xorg-x11-server 4595-0 Now this should work, please open a bugreport. The fix to this problem was to reinstall the original x11-server package from the opensuse 10.3 dvd from the console using the following command. rpm --oldpackage -Uvh xorg-x11-server-7.2-143.i586.rpm I have been googling the problem but can't find any mention of this problem I'm not sure if I have a problem with my install or if this is a known issue. Is this the right place to be posting this issue? For bugreports, please use bugzilla. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ddd for opensuse10.2
OOooo how stupid I am. Thank you very much for your help, Mark. I thank you so much. On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:27:13 +0200 Mark Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi On 10/25/07, Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use OpenSuSE10.2, I installed v.3.3 from its DVD. but this version does not understand perl. The error message was: /home/patrikh/sementara/parserku.pl: not in executable format: File format not recognized. I used DDD for Perl scripts on openSUSE 10.2 without any problem and without any adjustment (installed during OS installation). Just ddd script name should work. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Junior Programmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 updates breaking login to kde
Hi Marcus, Thanks for your reply. Marcus Meissner wrote: This happens if you have the FACTORY repository added. The security patch for openssl will pull in the _FACTORY_ openssl version instead of the of the _SECURITY_ update version. While the provides/requirements all fit, the FACTORY version is binary incompatible. I will fix this one first. The second problem occurred when I installed the following x11-server update. I was unable to move my mouse pointer or enter text into the password field. I could still login via the text console. This was the offending patch xorg-x11-server 4595-0 Now this should work, please open a bugreport. I will wait until I fix the first problem and see if the second one still exists. If it is still a problem, I'll submit a bug report. I will post an update on Saturday. Again, thanks for your help. Cheers, Barrie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.3 not booting, 10.2 nearly booting on FSC Primergy RX330 S1
Hello everyone, We just received a brand new server, and I just spent several hours trying to install OpenSuse on it, but couldn't get it to. The Hardware is a Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy RX330 S1 (product page here http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/products/standard_servers/rack/ primergy_rx330s1.html ), and I tried both the 10.3, and then the 10.2 net install discs. I even tried the 10.3 Gnome install CD, just to be sure. (Note: all 3 are the x86_64 flavors) Both 10.3 discs didn't even get me to any menu or anything: I would get grub (is it grub?), and go to the normal installation. It then tries to load a bunch of modules (first was pata_serverworks, which crashed and I subsequently had to deactivate it with brokenmodules), eventually getting to the NICs, and crashes after that. Even disabling the module it tries to load then (tg3) doesn't help, it does nothing for a few seconds (cursor blinks), and then just reboots. I tried disabling the NICs in the BIOS (all of them, even the management thing), but it still tries to load the module. I had a little more luck with the 10.2 disc, as I could get to the installation or other stuff menu (can't remember what exactly is in there) without the need to disable or block any modules, and I can start the http installation, it downloads the image for the graphical installation, it even gets there, probes the mouse (little window hovering), the window disappears, the menu on the left hand appears, and the thing crashes. No error, no nothing which could give me any information about what causes the problem. I then tried different other discs I had lying around: a minimal Gentoo x86, a Gentoo LiveCD x86_64, a Damn Small Linux x86, but none worked as expected. The Gentoo discs fail while trying to mount /dev/ hda (the optical drive), and the DSL doesn't manage to start an X, and defaults to the CLI Interface, but I don't get networking or anything, even USB is broken somehow (tried to copy the ouput from lspci). Any suggestions what I could try from here on? Or this there someone out there with the same server who managed to get _any_ GNU/Linux distribution on it? Thanks in advance, Felix Schäfer-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Where can problems with the Wiki be reported to?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Some of the images in the wiki do not work for me, I get HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found at random. I had to navigate to the same page using an anonimous proxy to see the images. Screenshots are available. See: This time doesn't work: ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ wget http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/es/0/01/Translation-ok-warning.png ] --11:00:00-- http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/es/0/01/Translation-ok-warning.png ]= `Translation-ok-warning.png' ] Resolving files.opensuse.org... 130.57.4.24 ] Connecting to files.opensuse.org|130.57.4.24|:80... connected. ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found ] 11:00:00 ERROR 404: Not Found. Now it works: ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ wget http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/es/0/01/Translation-ok-warning.png ] --13:06:24-- http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/es/0/01/Translation-ok-warning.png ]= `Translation-ok-warning.png' ] Resolving files.opensuse.org... 130.57.4.24 ] Connecting to files.opensuse.org|130.57.4.24|:80... connected. ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK ] Length: 1,093 (1.1K) [image/png] ] ] 100%[==] 1,093 --.--K/s ] ] 13:06:25 (21.57 MB/s) - `Translation-ok-warning.png' saved [1093/1093] What gives? Who do I report this to? I don't see where in bugzilla. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIHqXtTMYHG2NR9URAuYvAJoDOhuKtb6AgHeB2kMCfWOLox2qeQCfY8+l 2G32DGjBZUHHT8hAHv2Yf4s= =nWO9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slightly OT: Like Apple Remote Desktop.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey gang, I've been administering a medium sized linux/osx network. On the OSX network Apple has this great tool called Remote Desktop that allows me to view/control workstations, install software, run scripts and generate a plethora of reports. I've been administering the linux side via scripts for the most part, but I'm sure someone must have made a tool like Remote Desktop for Linux by now. There are many methods for Linux. First, you can always have remote desktops, simply by enabling XDMCP. Then there's stuff like VNC and if you use ssh, with X forwarding, you can run any graphical app. Compared to Linux, other operating systems are primitive! -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [os] New Printer Info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 12:15 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote: On Oct 25 11:40 Carlos E. R. wrote (shortened): It's a lesson for us all: check before we buy, don't assume it will work in linux just because some other hardware from the same brand works. And even when we check we are bitten: I got a haupauge 1300 tvcard and it doesn't fully work, for instance. There are shops/dealers who take it back if it doesn't work for Linux (and give it away for those other operating systems for which the manufacturer provides his non-free drivers ;-) Of course via such dealers it is usually a bit more expensive than in an arbitrary shop. True. But not available everywhere or for all products... cards, for instance, are not usually covered where I bought it. By the way: Sometimes it happens that the manufacturer changes the internal stuff of a piece of hardware (chips, firmware, ...) a bit so that the new series is not fully backward compatible, see for example ... In the above example the manufacturer changed the USB ID but I think there are also even worse examples where the hardware changed in a non-compatible way under the same IDs. It is practically impossible for a normal user to be safe against such pitfalls which are set up by the manufacturers. That's a very nasty trick! :-( And I think that may have happened to me with my card (different tuner). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIH0StTMYHG2NR9URAkT9AJ4tGQ2q/i3sTlAhXxbPMU6lQxUi5gCeLQrB rjo7o8yaccr2NgKyX2F5UWE= =FcnP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I do this with rsync?
On Tue October 23 2007 22:39, Robert Smits wrote: I have a number of systems I'd like to regularly back up with rsync. Let me describe them. I created these two scripts, which allow me to synchronize things between office, home desktop and laptop, in any direction I want, only updating what is newer under a parent directory and only deleting files after asking for confirmation. I found that sometimes I forgot that I created a new file in the office, say under Projects/ABC/, and when I work from home and I want to syncsend Projects, it asks if I want to delete that new file. I then say no and subsequently run syncget Projects to bring that file to my desktop at home. You want to save these scripts in your ~/bin/ directory and make them executable (right-click/Properties or chmod ug+x sync*). Edit the files to have your own default destination and maybe adapt the default exclusions. You also want to enter the option --dry-run at the prompt when you run it the first time, just to make sure the scripts do what you want, before it really counts. Enjoy! -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? syncget Description: application/shellscript syncsend Description: application/shellscript
Re: [opensuse] Where can problems with the Wiki be reported to?
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Some of the images in the wiki do not work for me, I get HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found at random. I had to navigate to the same page using an anonimous proxy to see the images. Screenshots are available. This was already discussed on the opensuse-wiki mailing list, Martin is working with our sysadmins on it. In general you should be able report this via bugzilla (component openSUSE.org), Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpjBBiW9iTnW.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: [opensuse] MPlayer documentation
** Reply to message from Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:58:16 -0500 On Wednesday 24 October 2007 01:32:21 pm Stan Goodman wrote: To clarify: I understand that this is the only CD I need to run to upgrade the OS proper, including KDE. I will run it in the usual way, as I did for the first install of v10.2, and let it run until it asks me for CD2, at which time the exercise is complete. Since I wrote my message, I have found and read the openSuSE News Announcement page, which has answered all the questions I asked you. You have added a good bit of information and insight, however, and have also raised additional questions. It will not ask you for the CD2 as there is no such thing in openSUSE 10.3. There is either KDE single CD or GNOME single CD, and DVD with both. The software that is not on CD or DVD is available online on FTP or HTTP servers. Yes, I understand that now. Be aware that if installer of openSUSE 10.3 find working Internet connection it will attempt to download much more than it is present on CD. With slow Internet it can be very long download that can't be interrupted or installation will fail. I have no exact number but it can be between 2 and 3 GB. To avoid that: I would not have thought of that. 1- turn Internet off before installation, 2- save your data from openSUSE 10.2 (make backup) I'll just back it up in toto. That will bring over my Documents, Java programs and email data and my few other third party programs. Beyond that, I think only the Knode logon data and the Firefox profile files need to be saved. 3- install openSUSE 10.3 (select New Installation) Why? I was going to install over the existing v10.2, which would mean selecting the Upgrade option. The single HD is entirely allocated. If there is a real reason for installing separately, I'd add a second HD. * be aware that if you don't install on a new partition (some 10 GB, but more is better) it will format you existing partition and all data that are not saved will be lost I am SO glad you told me this. What a mistake it was to install v10.2 in a single monster partition!! I had wanted to install /home in a separate partition in order to protect my own data and programs from this kind of ambush; I was talked out of that by experienced users, who argued that there was no advantage to doing this.. As for installing v10.3. I now see the virtue of a New Installation; I need to put in a separate HD to manage that. * installation runs in 2 phase with reboot after first phase to start new installed kernel. It is done when you see the message telling you that installation is complete and your newly installed system will be started (this time it will happen without reboot as new kernel is already running). 4- start YaST and configure network and Internet 5- run YOU (YaST Online Update) as there are already some patches for 10.3 After all above is done you will have running openSUSE 10.3 and you can add applications from Internet repositories with smaller downloads, while you are using computer. The other option, loading all patches for 10.2 would also ask for huge download and as result you will have older version of openSUSE that is missing a lot of new features. What will have been updated is KDE and possibly other elements of the OS itself; the kernel is unchanged however? Lets call small change update, and big change upgrade. Installation of 10.3 will be upgrade. Everything, including kernel, will be new. There is small problem with naming upgrade vs. update. In openSUSE everything is called update, big or small change, but there are different levels: - If you go from openSUSE 10.2 to 10.3 it will be called System Update and, as it is mentioned, is a large change - In case that you update KDE for 10.3 to newer version of KDE (still compiled for 10.3) it will be considered as (normal) update. In future, when asked for any CD beyond CD1, I am to use the disks from the v10.2 set. The openSUSE 10.2 CD set will be useless. Clear to me sfrom the Announcement page. When I used example with windows I tried to tell you that: - openSUSE 10.2 is one operating system, and - openSUSE 10.3 is another. It went over my head, but I now see that this is indeed the dase. Surprising for a minor release number. Only one number difference in the name means a lot of changes. Programs designed for 10.2 generally don't work under 10.3. There are some exceptions, but elaborate answer is far beyond email article (and my knowledge). For instance YaST and zypper are much faster and have new features missing in 10.2. Many people upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3 for this single reason, and there is many more. Is all that correct? As you can see it isn't, but installing openSUSE 10.3 will give you brand new software. Again, I am VERY grateful for your comments and insight. -- Stan Goodman
Re: [opensuse] unsubscribe
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Re: [opensuse] Where can problems with the Wiki be reported to?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 13:35 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Carlos E. R. writes: Hi, Some of the images in the wiki do not work for me, I get HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found at random. I had to navigate to the same page using an anonimous proxy to see the images. Screenshots are available. This was already discussed on the opensuse-wiki mailing list, Martin is working with our sysadmins on it. Yes, just saw it. I added my report there. Thanks! In general you should be able report this via bugzilla (component openSUSE.org), Ah, that one. [...] I suppsose you mean this: Classification (Product line) -- opensuse Product -- openSUSE.org Anyway, that will be next time :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIIRxtTMYHG2NR9URAnY+AJ9uZR3CS73wje0uJgg4tve/WM8d+gCgliFB YCbOBUXFgFpGAyxruiV0weU= =kq8F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where can problems with the Wiki be reported to?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 14:14 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Anyway, that will be next time :-) Hope there's no next time, X'-) Of course! - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIIp4tTMYHG2NR9URAtjKAJ4gBzdQr2KUkuaRsp6d/xiwlAlKEwCfevoj Xo84FPgZYAu/Pwe6YkLues8= =8ybl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mplayer svn version
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 14:24 +0700, chika wrote: can i get download link for mplayer svn? (of course with all deps) type this in google... mplayer svn download my mplayer doesn't work since i install 10.3 (i have download mplayer n all deps on packman, but bad sound produced) I downloaded the tar version yesterday compiled and it works fine vlc is good but i used to use mplayer thanks, tambun signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [opensuse] Slightly OT: Like Apple Remote Desktop.
In the opensuse education desktop applications list is iTALC http://en.opensuse.org/Education_Desktop_Applications#Desktop_Applications_for_educational_use It is basically ARD without the imaging tools. On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 21:41 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey gang, I've been administering a medium sized linux/osx network. On the OSX network Apple has this great tool called Remote Desktop that allows me to view/control workstations, install software, run scripts and generate a plethora of reports. I've been administering the linux side via scripts for the most part, but I'm sure someone must have made a tool like Remote Desktop for Linux by now. Any ideas? Cheers Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I do this with rsync? (scripts)
Bob, Your reply just made me notice that I replied to you directly, instead of to the mailing-list. So, I resent my message for the benefit of the others. On Wed October 24 2007 20:06, Robert Smits wrote: What does the first line with #!/bin/bash do? I understand it's a descriptive comment, but what does the !/bin/bash do for you. It is not a comment. While # starts comments anywhere else in a bash script, if the script starts with #!/bin/bash, bash will be used to interpret the script, even if someone's login shell is csh or tcsh. For example, if I had used the Bourne shell syntax, I should start my script with #!/bin/sh. Second, I've been using rsync in the form rsync -a source file location destination file location. Is it because you want to do this interactively that you've added all these other options? The fundamental difference is that both ends are active. If I was just mirroring my home to a passive backup destination, then a pure --archive option would suffice and I would probably do it on my entire $HOME. But in my case, I synchronize only key directory trees between the 3 machines and any of the 3 can have a more recent version of a document. --compress: speeds up synchronization between office and home. --update: prevents overwriting a newer version on the destination, if I forgot to update it in the source first. Say I change Projects/ABC/file1 in the office and forget I changed it. Then I work on Projects/ABC/file2 at home. If I didn't use update, I would revert to the old version of file1 when I archive Projects/ to the office. --partial --delay-updates: keep partial transfers if the connection breaks, so a restart only transfers the rest. The problem is the time of a partial file is always newer, since the time stamp is adjusted at the end. So, at restart a partial file would not only look complete, but also more recent, and when I synchronize back, I would corrupt the source, hence delay-updates. --progress: just to see that the connection is not hanging in case of large files. I found that sometimes I forgot that I created a new file in the office, say under Projects/ABC/, and when I work from home and I want to syncsend Projects, it asks if I want to delete that new file. I then say no and subsequently run syncget Projects to bring that file to my desktop at home. But if i use the rsync command without the --delete parameter it won't delete any files at all on the receiving side, right? And if I have an extra one in either receiving or sending side, it'll add it, right? Your synchronization is always one way, never back and forth at once. Without --delete, rsync will notice that there is an extra file at the destination, which would normally mean you deleted the corresponding file in the source, but rsync will not synchronize this deletion. rsync cannot know that in my case the destination side is not a pure backup site and that it can also generate new content. I have to run rsync office home, which is syncget in this case, for rsync to bring the new file to my home machine. Well.my scripts were much more primitive and I'll study yours to see how they add functionality. Once I have the scripts working I just want to run them daily with cron. These are just different scenarios. I would use a cron job to sync to a true, passive backup site. Since all my sites are active and I am somewhat absent-minded, my initially simple interactive script evolved to this. :) -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mplayer svn version
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [opensuse] mplayer svn version Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date Time: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:24:16 +0700 (WIT) [chika] == chika [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written: chika can i get download link for mplayer svn? (of course with all deps) Execute; svn checkout svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/trunk mplayer and svn co svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/dvdnav/trunk/libdvdnav libdvdnav Moreover, install LIVE555 amrnb, amrwb via Packman. In case of amrnb, and amrwb, install devel files at the same tome. win32codecs aswell. chika my mplayer doesn't work since i install 10.3 (i have download mplayer chika n all deps on packman, but bad sound produced) ? Is it a mplayer's problem? Did you confirm the audio device as follows? mplayer -ao help You might haven't installed the proper audio files. --- 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp Bill! You married with Computers. Not with Me! No..., with money. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Unalbe to play WMV files in opensuse10.3
What video card to you have? I have an ATI radeon and just went through
a horrible process of figuring out what was going on with video. Turns
out that the Xorg xv extension for radeon is buggy. Try this:
xine -V xv filenalme
It will probably give you the symptom you already have. then try
xine -V xshm filename
if that works its your xv extension same as me.
xshm is reputedly slower and drops frames, but its all I got :) To make
this change permanent edit $HOME/.xine/config so that this line is present:
# video driver to use
# { auto aadxr3 dxr3 xv XDirectFB opengl SyncFB caca xshm aa
xxmc none sdl vidixfb vidix fb xvmc }, default: 0
video.driver:xshm
cao...
wcn
Biju CP wrote:
Thankyou Bryen and Vavai,
I am new to linux and has just said bye to windows. So dont know much
about stuff. I'll try this out once i reach back home. In the evening.
On 10/25/07, Masim Vavai Sugianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/25/07, Biju CP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am unable to play the WMV files in my suse linux, I have almost
every player installed in my system. Do i need to download any other
player or any other codec packages for xine, vlc, or real player will
suffice.
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Biju,
Have you tried one-click-install feature for multimedia supports as
mentioned at http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia ?
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Vavai
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Re: [opensuse] Laptop display switching
On 10/24/07, peter nikolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Having just tried touse 10.3 on the laptop i use for presentations every second week i found last night that i can no longer switch between the built in display and the large screen display i use at the club . This has always worked flawlessly under 10.2 using the Fn+F4 keys to switch as per keyboard . Laptop is an Compaq Presario V5030 Turion 64 bit with pesky ATI M200 graphics chip .. Ideas please needed working for Tuesday 13th november .. I found out that on my Dell the Fn-F8 combo works only while the boot screen is present. If once the kdm kicks in, this combo no longer works. And if I switch while on boot screen, the kdm becomes broken, and X does not start. I have no idea why. But the next thing I found out is, that if I boot the laptop while the second monitor (projector) is connected, it will boot initially only on the build-in screen, but when kdm (X) starts, it will display on both of them. And yes, with 10.2, I was able to use fn-F8 whenever I wanted to. So, you may try to connect the projector and then boot, and see if this workaround works for you. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
CyberOrg wrote: On 10/25/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CyberOrg wrote: On 10/20/07, Ben Kevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 09:02:47 pm David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Please report back on the installation / configuration of Compiz Fusion etc.. http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2007/10/24/ati-8433-on-opensuse-the-hard-way/ Now fgl_glxgears and fglrxinfo will work as they should. However after gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and reboot, compiz is non-operational on the laptop. The desktop appears, the mouse will move, but that is it, Xgl is not required as shown in the the post above, we are configuring AIGLX. If you don't do anything extra and blindly follow each step there you should get a working Compiz with 8.42. Well, that is what I thought too, but when I checked xorg.0.log, I found the following: (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (==) AIGLX disabled (II) Loading extension GLX When is says disabled, I had no reason to think that compiz would run on AIGLX on this system. You have leftover libGL everywhere because you need clean install of openSUSE or cleanly uninstalled earlier fglrx drivers: rpm -e x11-video-fglrxG01-8.40.4-1 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.40.4_2.6.22.9_0.4-1.i586 way or sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh. -J I do that every time. How did I get leftover libGL everywhere? Should I try to rebuild the rpm db somehow to see if it would create errors on the spurious files libGL files? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is beagle supposed to find emails?
I have used kerry/beagle successfully a few times. For example, to search through a 100 PDF files from a conference. On Wed October 24 2007 17:12, Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, Beagle is running almost continuously (beagle-0.2.17-6.1 in suse 10.2), indexing and using most of my cpu. I have 0.2.17 in 10.1 and it is by far less intrusive than it was in the beginning. It hasn't bothered me anymore. So, I try to find some thing. I bring up the search dialog, and tell it to find suse. Surely, I have thousands and thousands of emails from this lists, so beagle it's sure to find some? Well, it finds exactly 5 emails, Interesting. My found zero. But it got at least 99 hits of opensuse. I guess it needs full words. *suse also works, but somehow it found only 78. I selected conversations, so it was only flagging e-mails and ircs. If I click on it, it opens thunderbird, which displays nothing... which is not surprising, as thunderbird is not my main mail client, and the indexes in lists.sbd are obsolete. Maybe that is the problem. I have Kmail checked in my Configure/Backends in Kerry and it opens each e-mail with Kmail properly. -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Linux Desktop/Client Survey 2007
Hi The Linux Foundation started a new survey on Desktop/Client usage. Form the introduction: The information from this survey will assist the Linux Foundation Desktop Linux workgroup to focus on areas of development that are important to you. The results of this survey may also be valuable to your business. Once you complete the survey, you will be able to view the current aggregated public results of the survey. No registration needed, you can see directly the results and it's even available in several languages. But: The 2007 Linux Desktop/Client Survey asks you to answer a few questions based on your company's desktop/client plans and not necessarily your personal desktop usage. http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/2007ClientSurvey -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: CyberOrg wrote: On 10/25/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CyberOrg wrote: On 10/20/07, Ben Kevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 09:02:47 pm David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Please report back on the installation / configuration of Compiz Fusion etc.. http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2007/10/24/ati-8433-on-opensuse-the-hard-way/ Now fgl_glxgears and fglrxinfo will work as they should. However after gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and reboot, compiz is non-operational on the laptop. The desktop appears, the mouse will move, but that is it, Xgl is not required as shown in the the post above, we are configuring AIGLX. If you don't do anything extra and blindly follow each step there you should get a working Compiz with 8.42. Well, that is what I thought too, but when I checked xorg.0.log, I found the following: (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (==) AIGLX disabled (II) Loading extension GLX When is says disabled, I had no reason to think that compiz would run on AIGLX on this system. Disregard, I found Option “AIGLX” “true” on you blog, Thanks! You have leftover libGL everywhere because you need clean install of openSUSE or cleanly uninstalled earlier fglrx drivers: rpm -e x11-video-fglrxG01-8.40.4-1 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.40.4_2.6.22.9_0.4-1.i586 way or sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh. -J I do that every time. How did I get leftover libGL everywhere? Should I try to rebuild the rpm db somehow to see if it would create errors on the spurious files libGL files? Which libGL files are the right libGL files? Should I trash all the duplicates dated 9/21? See below: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/libGL_pkgs01.png http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/libGL_pkgs02.png Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 not booting, 10.2 nearly booting on FSC Primergy RX330 S1
Am 25.10.2007 um 14:58 schrieb Sebastian Brandt: Felix Schäfer wrote: We just received a brand new server, and I just spent several hours trying to install OpenSuse on it, but couldn't get it to. The Hardware is a Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy RX330 S1 (product page here http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/products/standard_servers/rack/ primergy_rx330s1.html ), Is it possible the problem is somewhere else entirely ... cpu, board, ram, etc.? Did you manage to boot *any* operating system on the machine, e.g., windows, the memtest option from the opensuse dvd, etc.? Well, it seems the hardware only works with SLES or RH, or at least that's what a colleague told me, and it says so on FSC's Website (although it's hard to get there...), so a SLES it will be. Thanks anyway, Felix Schäfer-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mplayer svn version
I'm glad that im not the only one who loves mplayer when someone suggest me to download the package i rather choose download the rpm than *.tar.bz2, for simple administration software management. i know 1 click install is good solution but what can i do if @ boarding house i ev no internet connection i downloaded the svn n all deps in rpm when i used 10.2, it works well. but now i forget the download link. is there a problem with my audio, i don't think so. my amarok kaffeine and vlc plays well, i've checked by alsaconf. br, tambun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 remote administration with vnc on minimal-graphics installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/24/07, Lollero wrote: Hi, I'm unable to get login screen when connecting to my freshly installed OpenSUSE 10.3 box with vnc. My installation is made with Minimal-graphics selected from the install menu. On OpenSUSE 10.2 this works. Remote administration works if I install either gnome or kde desktop. Any ideas where to start looking? I believe you want Yast - Hardware - Graphics Card and Monitor - Remote Access - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHILQyNTm8fWdRgmIRAh7GAJ9/9GOgKp1IFX2jeNcNq23qoiY23gCgrV0S dng+eIjlczIwN/DKlyNOCxY= =9QEu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] CPU MHz BogoMIPS in /etc/cpuinfo vs. BIOS Hardware Parameters
Hi, I've been tweaking the overclocking on my Core 2 Duo system (running openSUSE 10.3 with all current updates and patches installed) and have, for now at least, settled on these values: - Base clock: 333 MHz - CPU Multiplier 9 (2.997 GHz) - DRAM Multiplier 5:2 (833 MHz) The BIOS reports are consistent with these settings, but everything displayed under Linux seems to reflect the default CPU multiplier value of 10. Thus, KSensors and /proc/cpuinfo (KPowersave, as well) show the CPU clock as 3.33 GHz. What's even more inexplicable (to me) is the fact that the bogoMIPS value is consistent with this (w.r.t. the values it had when the CPU multiplier _was_ set to the default 10): 6662 and 6658. (When the base clock was 300 and the CPU multiplier was 10, bogoMIPS was about 6000.) The reason I find this inexplicable is that I thought bogoMIPS was computed empirically, by running some simple timing loops. If that's correct, then this value should reflect the actual CPU speed of 3 GHz, right? Can anyone explain this? Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
Ben Kevan wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 10:18:27 pm you wrote: Ben, I tried the xlib.lock work around and it didn't make any difference with the fglrx issue. Neither fgl_glxgears or fglrxinfo are operational. 00:08 Rankin-P35a~ export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true 00:09 Rankin-P35a~ fgl_glxgears Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 41 Current serial number in output stream: 42 On Wednesday 24 October 2007 09:34:29 pm you wrote: Also, 3D is gone for some unknown reason: [root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # sax2 SaX: Checking update status for fglrx driver SaX: initialization already done SaX: call [ sax2 -r ] if your system has changed ! SaX: startup SaX: X-Server: :0.0 - grant SaX: importing current configuration... Sax then opens a dialog saying it cannot configure 3D because the card or driver doesn't support 3D. Bullshit! 3D worked just fine 1 hour ago with the 8.41 driver. This is really strange. I'm going to try and rebuild the kernel modules and see if that help. Thanks for your great help. It is always much nicer to have a helping hand remind you that there is no reason to start throwing laptops.. Cooler heads will prevail! Hey, How did things go? Sorry, started updating my MythBox last night.. and that took alot longer then expected (Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10) and it broke my VNC and I don't have my router forwarding SSH :( .. So can't work on from here go get VNC working.. Oh well TV works fine :D Ben Here is where we are. After installing 8.42.3, I found that rpm -e of either the 8.40 or 8.41 driver failed to remove and replace the /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2* library with the new /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2* from 8.42. This was causing a conflict that borked fglrx. After fixing this by moving /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2.old and then # ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 J (CyberOrg) was most helpful in pointing out that there may be other libGL conflicts. However, after make the above change, fgl_glxgears and fglrxinfo work as they are supposed to. Also, after looking for additional conflicts, I think I'm OK. (do you see anything else amiss) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/libGL_pkgs01.png http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/libGL_pkgs02.png However, the AIT control center (/usr/bin/amdcccle) still will NOT run. I haven't a clue what is causing this problem. As we spoke, the java error is still present: [root rankin-p35a/home/david] # /usr/bin/amdcccle amdcccle: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed. Aborted export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true, eliminates the error, but the control center will not start and requires a ctrl+c to kill the process. Also, aticonfig will NOT run. I have posted my xorg.conf. If anyone can take a look and see if there is anything wrong, I would appreciate it. It is at: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/xorg.conf J also has a very helpful blog for the new drivers: http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2007/10/24/ati-8433-on-opensuse-the-hard-way/ The blog pointed out that I needed to edit xorg.conf and add: Option “AIGLX” “true” to ServerFlags and change the extensions: Section “Extensions Option “DAMAGE” “true” Option “Composite” “true” EndSection This is where I am. I have not loaded xorg 7.3 yet and I am still trying to get compiz working. kwin works like a dream, good 3D, frame rates, etc. My goal is NOT to have to reload 10.3! That shouldn't be necessary, and I don't want to kill 5 hours installing, patching and re-tweaking, even with the benefit of Yast autoinstall and simply saving and remounting /home. So I am back to my plea for HELP! Y'all have been great to help me get this far, and I'm confident I can make this work. Is the anything else I can send or post that might help get to the bottom of what is going on?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
I finally worked up the courage to upgrade to 10.3. Using K3b, I wrote a dvd, but some time in the past, the verify and do not eject buttons got unchecked and I didn't notice it. K3b completed without error, but, since it ejected the dvd, it errored out, and now I have a (probably) good dvd to use for installation, but can't convince K3b to verify it. Should I just burn a new dvd, or is there some way to verify its contents before destroying my 10.2 system? John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: J also has a very helpful blog for the new drivers: http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2007/10/24/ati-8433-on-opensuse-the-hard-way/ The blog pointed out that I needed to edit xorg.conf and add: Option “AIGLX” “true” to ServerFlags and change the extensions: Section “Extensions Option “DAMAGE” “true” Option “Composite” “true” EndSection OK, Hold On! After making the above changes to xorg, something has definitively changed! I know have the compiz looking full rich shadows around all text boxes, screen performance is down (like I'm pushing a lot more graphics to the screen), but session manager shown a greyed out kwin with no option to select compiz? The greyed kwin is normal for session manager. The display definitively looks better, but has a few exta flashes every now and then. What do I need to do to get compiz now? Another 1-click install? Thanks for your help, and your thoughts are welcomed. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
HI John, On Thursday 25 October 2007 17:58:59 John E. Perry wrote: I finally worked up the courage to upgrade to 10.3. Using K3b, I wrote a dvd, but some time in the past, the verify and do not eject buttons got unchecked and I didn't notice it. K3b completed without error, but, since it ejected the dvd, it errored out, and now I have a (probably) good dvd to use for installation, but can't convince K3b to verify it. Should I just burn a new dvd, or is there some way to verify its contents before destroying my 10.2 system? John Perry I have had this happen to me in the past. What I did was just read the disk back to the harddrive. If you can copy the whole of the DVD chances are its a good copy. Hope this helps. -- Kindest regards, Clive http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.rogers/ Fighting for darker skies. From 52:26ºN 01:27ºW (Coventry, UK) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Grub on CD
Hello All, I have a friend who is trying Linux after listening to me go on about how good and stable it is for a few years. He is happy to install to a partition on his harddrive but is not happy to have grub in his mbr. So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? -- Kindest regards, Clive http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.rogers/ Fighting for darker skies. From 52:26ºN 01:27ºW (Coventry, UK) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 18:09 +0100, Clive Rogers wrote: HI John, On Thursday 25 October 2007 17:58:59 John E. Perry wrote: I finally worked up the courage to upgrade to 10.3. Using K3b, I wrote a dvd, but some time in the past, the verify and do not eject buttons got unchecked and I didn't notice it. K3b completed without error, but, since it ejected the dvd, it errored out, and now I have a (probably) good dvd to use for installation, but can't convince K3b to verify it. Should I just burn a new dvd, or is there some way to verify its contents before destroying my 10.2 system? When you start the install there is an option to check your media. John Perry I have had this happen to me in the past. What I did was just read the disk back to the harddrive. If you can copy the whole of the DVD chances are its a good copy. Hope this helps. -- Kindest regards, Clive http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.rogers/ Fighting for darker skies. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub on CD
Clive Rogers schrieb: Hello All, I have a friend who is trying Linux after listening to me go on about how good and stable it is for a few years. He is happy to install to a partition on his harddrive but is not happy to have grub in his mbr. So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? Hi! This won't work. Alternatives: 1) use a floppy disk with grub on the boot sector which then loads everything from the hard disk (/ or /boot partition). Fast, because only the boot sector (512 bytes) should be loaded from the disk, NOT the other grub stages, menu.lst and the kernel. I haven't done this with grub, only with lilo, yet. 2) put grub onto the boot sector of the / or the /boot partition (if you have one). Then, configure your XP boot menu to boot this partition. You have to get a certain tool -- bootpart, http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm, create a boot sector file that boots the /[boot] partition, and enter it into boot.ini of windows partition (probably C:\). 3) for a CD boot, you need isolinux. As this is probably not what you want/need, I just leave it with that. I'd guess that (2) is the best solution for your friend; I had done this for quite some time, with 2000 and XP, and LILO on the linux partition(s). For some time though, grub is on the MBR. By the way: To restore the MBR for Windows, if you should overwrite it, you need to boot a windows (XP) CD, boot into rescue console, select your installation (probably 1), enter the Administrator password, and type fixmbr, possible fixboot afterwards. Vista should also be able to do this, though I don't exactly know how. Hope this helps, Sebastian If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
Todd Ness schrieb: On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 18:09 +0100, Clive Rogers wrote: HI John, On Thursday 25 October 2007 17:58:59 John E. Perry wrote: I finally worked up the courage to upgrade to 10.3. Using K3b, I wrote a dvd, but some time in the past, the verify and do not eject buttons got unchecked and I didn't notice it. K3b completed without error, but, since it ejected the dvd, it errored out, and now I have a (probably) good dvd to use for installation, but can't convince K3b to verify it. Should I just burn a new dvd, or is there some way to verify its contents before destroying my 10.2 system? When you start the install there is an option to check your media. Hi! You can also do an md5sum check ... if you are able to read all files, they should(!) be OK. Instead of copying them to the hd, I usually just run find /media/YYY -type f |xargs md5sum ~/10.3.md5 Only works this easy way if there are no spaces in dir or file names - for the 10.3 installation, this should be the case. Prints all the files with their md5sums. The sums itself are of no importance, yet look for read errors! Hope this helps, Sebastian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
On Thursday 25 October 2007 09:58, John E. Perry wrote: I finally worked up the courage to upgrade to 10.3. Using K3b, I wrote a dvd, but some time in the past, the verify and do not eject buttons got unchecked and I didn't notice it. K3b completed without error, but, since it ejected the dvd, it errored out, and now I have a (probably) good dvd to use for installation, but can't convince K3b to verify it. Should I just burn a new dvd, or is there some way to verify its contents before destroying my 10.2 system? You don't quite explicitly say it, but I take it the DVD you burned is one of the openSUSE 10.3 installation discs. If so, then you can verify it using the YaST Media Check module on your 10.2 system. If you still have the .iso image file, you can compare it byte-for-byte with the burned disc like this: % cmp openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso /dev/DVD_DRIVE_DEVICE You'll have to substitute the name of your DVD drive for DVD_DRIVE_DEVICE. John Perry Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub on CD
Clive Rogers wrote: Hello All, I have a friend who is trying Linux after listening to me go on about how good and stable it is for a few years. He is happy to install to a partition on his harddrive but is not happy to have grub in his mbr. So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? Why not just get rid of the graphic splash, set widows as the default and set the timeout to 1 second. He would probably never even notice grub. If he then wanted to boot linux, he could just tap a key during boot to stop the timeout and boot to linux. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
Todd Ness wrote: ... When you start the install there is an option to check your media. As I wrote in my post, the dvd's already written. K3b completed without error. The only problem is that when I checked the verify button, I didn't notice that the do not eject button was unchecked. So K3b couldn't verify the (ejected) dvd, and I can't get it to verify now. If the media's good, does that mean the data is also good? jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] login with fingerprint reader in KDE?
Hi Carlos, On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 08:20 -0600, Carlos F Lange wrote: The Wiki (http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Fingerprint_Authentication) indicates only GDM (Gnome) or a login shell currently allow login with fingerprint swipe in 10.3. Is there any way to activate the login in KDM for KDE also? No, unfortunately KDM does not yet work with ThinkFinger. Timo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
Randall R Schulz wrote: .. You don't quite explicitly say it, but I take it the DVD you burned is one of the openSUSE 10.3 installation discs. Yes. If so, then you can verify it using the YaST Media Check module on your 10.2 system. If you still have the .iso image file, you can compare it byte-for-byte with the burned disc like this: % cmp openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso /dev/DVD_DRIVE_DEVICE You'll have to substitute the name of your DVD drive for DVD_DRIVE_DEVICE. Thanks, Randall and Sebastian Brandt -- two good ways to settle the issue. I'll get the cmp started right now. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
2007/10/25, John E. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Todd Ness wrote: ... When you start the install there is an option to check your media. As I wrote in my post, the dvd's already written. K3b completed without error. The only problem is that when I checked the verify button, I didn't notice that the do not eject button was unchecked. So K3b couldn't verify the (ejected) dvd, and I can't get it to verify now. If the media's good, does that mean the data is also good? jp Check this thread http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2005-July/014001.html to compare the md5sum of your iso with de recorded DVD one PS: read the whole thread Best regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
John E. Perry wrote: Todd Ness wrote: ... When you start the install there is an option to check your media. As I wrote in my post, the dvd's already written. K3b completed without error. The only problem is that when I checked the verify button, I didn't notice that the do not eject button was unchecked. So K3b couldn't verify the (ejected) dvd, and I can't get it to verify now. If the media's good, does that mean the data is also good? There are two things that have to be right. First, the media has to be copied correctly and there have been a few suggestions about thathowever, I get the impression you are talking about the Media verification done during install or by your media verification in Yast in your current system. If that says it is bad then there is a third possibility: The ISO file itself that you created the copy from could be defective and you can make as many good copies of that bad file and still end up with a bad install disk.So IF you are referring to the verify during install or media check indicating problems, the next step would be to ensure the ISO file was good to begin with.I don't have it handy right now, but there is a MD5SUM available for the iso itself which could be compared to the one you have on your disk. If they don't match, don't use it to make more coasters with :) Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] SuSE 10.3 / nVidia / Twinview / KDE / AMD_64 / Compiz current issues
These are the current issues I am having: Taskbar: -Doesn't display all windows (have show from all desktops disabled, when this is enabled, they all show up) -Hiding is inttermittant KDE: -altF2 doesn't bring up the run dialog -kde decorations not working, using emerald -switches resize from altbutton2 to altbutton3 Plugins: -Water Effect doesn't toggle off all the way. CPU stays at 88% used, even though no water is shown. Have to disable plugin to get CPU back -Window Placement doesn't seem to care about title=KMail -Window Rules WILL see the title=KMail for non-movable window, but if you use the mouse in upper right corner, select KMail, it moves it to centered screen1 instead of the non-movable location 0,0 on screen 2. Compiz: -With Water effects going, cube fish, cube gears, yast_update, and ctrlaltbutton1 moving of cube around, system will freeze (xgl, can still get to VC1 and init 3/5) (stress test) -sometimes when the screen saver kicks in, it is off centered. Instead of X/Y for upper left being 0,0 (whole screen) it is somewhere like (800,600) instead -No window title bars can go above 0,0. I use VNC to view remote desktops, and I always put the VNC title bar above 0 so that the remote title bar is at 0 Used 1-click install from repository, .6 newest version. B-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
Ben Kevan wrote: Have you whitelisted the figlx drivers? No. fglrx loads fine. Why would I need to whitelist it? I don't even have a /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist. However, that is another suggestion that I'll go try and report back. What is the format? Do I just create the file whitelist and within it add the line whitelist fglrx? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: Have you whitelisted the figlx drivers? No. fglrx loads fine. Why would I need to whitelist it? I don't even have a /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist. However, that is another suggestion that I'll go try and report back. What is the format? Do I just create the file whitelist and within it add the line whitelist fglrx? I found where modprobe.conf sources /etc/modprobe.d/ so the whitelist above should work. However, I can find no support for whitelist in man modprobe.conf ADDENDUM: Firefox will no longer display web sites that contain graphics. This is a side effect of the xorg.conf change. Additionally, why are the radeon kernel modules shown as loaded when the radeon.ko and radeonfg.ko do NOT exist? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: Have you whitelisted the figlx drivers? No. fglrx loads fine. Why would I need to whitelist it? I don't even have a /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist. However, that is another suggestion that I'll go try and report back. What is the format? Do I just create the file whitelist and within it add the line whitelist fglrx? Something isn't right: ged from 112 to 113 Oct 25 12:54:24 rankin-p35a modprobe: WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'whitelist' -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ksensors does not display harddisk temperature
Hi, I am using 10.3/32bit and my toolk for monitoring cpu temp and speed, fan speeds and the like is lm-sensors with the KDE frontend ksensors. Up to SuSE 10.2 this used to also display the temperature of my harddisk if I had hddtemp installed. Now I have hddtemp installed, but for the life of me I cannot get ksensors to display my harddisk temperature. Anything else from lm-sensors is there. I am using ksensors 0.7.3 from packman. Any hints how to get my harddisk temperature into ksensors to be displayed on my desktop are appreciated? Thanks much for help Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Boot Splash not available when 10.3 installed without CD
CyberOrg wrote: On 10/25/07, Benji Weber lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: On 24/10/2007, prakash c.s. lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: is there any way to get the boot splash screen. You could try mkinitrd -s 1024x768 (or other resolution) Add vga=791 (or whatever is your screen resolution) Cheers -J I tried both but still it not working, but the vga option got the scrolling text size to minimum. i even installed SuSE boot splash theme and modified splash in grub to SuSE, also i added this theme to initrd usign splash cmd #splash -s -f ./bootsplash-1024x768.cfg /boot/initrd is there any way to find whether the kernel supports splash, b'cos the dmesg does not have any line which has the word splash in it (except the kernel argument line). here is the kernel line in the grub kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.4-default root=/dev/sda1 resume=/dev/sda5 splash=SuSE showopts quiet vga=0x318 output of mkinitrd: Kernel image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.4-default Initrd image: /boot/initrd-2.6.22.9-0.4-default Root device: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD1200BEVS-60LAT0_WD-WXE906719727-part11 (/dev/sda11) (mounted on / as reiserfs) Resume device: /dev/sda5 Kernel Modules: processor thermal scsi_mod libata pata_amd sata_nv fan reiserfs edd sd_mod usbcore ohci-hcd uhci-hcd ehci-hcd ff-memless hid usbhid Features: block usb resume.userspace resume.kernel Bootsplash: SuSE (1024x768) 18806 blocks -- prakash -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can I verify using k3b?
Gabriel . wrote: Check this thread http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2005-July/014001.html to compare the md5sum of your iso with de recorded DVD one ...and sure enough, Andrew Powell's two simple lines gave me everything I needed. Thanks, Gabriel. Actually, I just went to the opensuse site and compared the md5sum there with what was on the dvd. Now I know both the iso on the disk and that on the dvd are correct. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is beagle supposed to find emails?
Am Donnerstag, 25. Oktober 2007 01:12:31 schrieb Carlos E. R.: Hi, Beagle is running almost continuously (beagle-0.2.17-6.1 in suse 10.2), indexing and using most of my cpu. [...] So, I try to find some thing. I bring up the search dialog, and tell it to find suse. Do you use kerry (search frontend for the beagle index in KDE), or how do you tell your linux system to search the beagle index? So... how do I tell beagle to forget thunderbird and search for mails where they really are? In kerry, open Backends where you would open daemon-status dialog. See whether your email client is listed there and activate it. In case you don't use kerry, see http://beagle-project.org/Configuring and use an xterm. Guido -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub on CD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 18:12 +0100, Clive Rogers wrote: So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? I think you could tell Yast to install grub on a floppy. When that works, you burn a CD (with k3b, for instance) telling it to use the floppy as an El Torito boot image. The actual data of the CD doesn't matter (maybe you have to 'dd' the floppy to a file first). Of course, he needs a floppy drive first... And I haven't tried this procedure with Linux, only with msdos; so I can't certify it works. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIOs/tTMYHG2NR9URAk/XAJ9UbkdjVAsH8PQHbSFnkZKZR472eACgl1uK ZzkJ3Q39lGL4D/oOCo2PCkU= =/bqD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SUCCESS] Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: Have you whitelisted the figlx drivers? No. fglrx loads fine. Why would I need to whitelist it? I don't even have a /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist. However, that is another suggestion that I'll go try and report back. What is the format? Do I just create the file whitelist and within it add the line whitelist fglrx? Something isn't right: ged from 112 to 113 Oct 25 12:54:24 rankin-p35a modprobe: WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'whitelist' WOHOO! Damn, it works! The final step was to load the fusion-icon. Then that super cool 'fusion' splash appeared and wham, there was the desktop. run command fixed, and this is one cool desptop. Thank you all for all of your help. Now to sort out the remaining problems and to start a new thread, this one is Done! The remaining issues: (1) all taskbar icons are now scattered across the kicker panel where the apps usually go. Beagle and fusion-icon are the only ones in the right place; (2) screen still freezes while when dropping from x back to the login; (3) Firefox no longer displays many web sites (simple ones); (4) figure out how to get compiz to autostart. But, damn this looks good! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] How does one upgrade to the next stable release of openSUSE?
I am trying to learn as much as I can about openSUSE, however there is one crucial design philosophy I have difficulty to grasp; openSUSE way of handeling updates. I wonder: -Which ways are there to update openSUSE from one stable release to another? -Is it also possible to skip a release when updating? e.g. is it possible to update 10 to 10.3 or 9 to 10.2? - Is there also an incremental stable (not factory) update possibility? This would mean that when openSUSE 11 is released openSUSE 10.3 users have already updated to 11 incrementally meaning no need for upgrading. -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is beagle supposed to find emails?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 21:11 +0200, Guido Pinkernell wrote: So, I try to find some thing. I bring up the search dialog, and tell it to find suse. Do you use kerry (search frontend for the beagle index in KDE), or how do you tell your linux system to search the beagle index? Dunno. I'm using gnome, and there was an applet in the taskbar which I have since yesterday removed as useless, so I don't know its name. I don't think it was kerry. So... how do I tell beagle to forget thunderbird and search for mails where they really are? In kerry, open Backends where you would open daemon-status dialog. See whether your email client is listed there and activate it. I have started kerry and ticked out evolution, kmail, and thunderbird - there is no plain Mail folder search, like Pine or Mutt. But I have disabled the daemon, as it is unable to find anything useful and wastes almost a gigabyte in my home. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIPG/tTMYHG2NR9URArUxAJ9x9svLtCN7oZL+l/H7tYTHfRIKSQCfVzZp 3a6ITHfRKsHSZeJoV1U6juw= =KFfn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] evolution contacts
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 15:14 -0500, Bryen wrote: Try Edit -- Plugins -- Then Uncheck the Automatic Plugins option. -- ---Bryen--- Thanks! That worked for me. However this is still a bug though, disabling the plugin was never a requirement before. Turning the option off used to be enough. -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub on CD
On Thursday 25 October 2007 12:12:46 pm Clive Rogers wrote: Hello All, I have a friend who is trying Linux after listening to me go on about how good and stable it is for a few years. He is happy to install to a partition on his harddrive but is not happy to have grub in his mbr. So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? -- Kindest regards, Clive Current setup with openSUSE 10.3 doesn't install grub in MBR. It is actually installed on openSUSE partition that is declared active so you can boot with any boot loader that will transfer control to boot sector of active partition including the one that is already installed by Windows. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How can I make a ghost image for SUSE Linux
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:52 +0800, Kalvin Weng wrote: Dear All If someone knows that which software can be used to make a ghost image for the SUSE Linux .. That will make me more easier to install the OS .. I had tried to use the Symantec Ghost to make a disk to disk image,but when I restored the image ,the system could not be started :( If you have some experience about this ? thanks You can use the systemrescuecd ( http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page ) this distro comes with partimage ( http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page ) which is an excellent harddisk cloning tool. partimage can also restore your mbr which is very important. The other solution offered (mondorescue etc.) are imo more backup options then imaging solutions -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find good 'beginning rpm building' instructions?
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:37 -0400, Mohsen Rezayatmand wrote: http://jengelh.hopto.org/linux/dev_lbuild.php thanks all for the great suggestions :D -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SUCCESS] Re: ATI 8.4.2.3 Driver Bug? was [Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0]
On Thursday 25 October 2007 12:42:09 pm David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: Have you whitelisted the figlx drivers? No. fglrx loads fine. Why would I need to whitelist it? I don't even have a /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist. However, that is another suggestion that I'll go try and report back. What is the format? Do I just create the file whitelist and within it add the line whitelist fglrx? Something isn't right: ged from 112 to 113 Oct 25 12:54:24 rankin-p35a modprobe: WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'whitelist' WOHOO! Damn, it works! The final step was to load the fusion-icon. Then that super cool 'fusion' splash appeared and wham, there was the desktop. run command fixed, and this is one cool desptop. Thank you all for all of your help. Now to sort out the remaining problems and to start a new thread, this one is Done! The remaining issues: (1) all taskbar icons are now scattered across the kicker panel where the apps usually go. Beagle and fusion-icon are the only ones in the right place; (2) screen still freezes while when dropping from x back to the login; (3) Firefox no longer displays many web sites (simple ones); (4) figure out how to get compiz to autostart. But, damn this looks good! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com Glad you got it all working.. CyberOrg really helped out.. Wish I could have been more help, but damn I am slammed at work ATM. Weird that you had to install the Compiz Fusion Icon for it to work correctly. What DE are you using? My startup script is: :~ cat .kde/Autostart/startberyl.sh #! /bin/sh sleep 5 compiz --replace ccp Sleep 5 because it lets the system tray icons set first.. Also check the ccsm settings to see if the workaround for firefox are enabled. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How can I make a ghost image for SUSE Linux
Aniruddha wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:52 +0800, Kalvin Weng wrote: Dear All If someone knows that which software can be used to make a ghost image for the SUSE Linux .. That will make me more easier to install the OS .. I had tried to use the Symantec Ghost to make a disk to disk image,but when I restored the image ,the system could not be started :( If you have some experience about this ? thanks You can use the systemrescuecd ( http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page ) this distro comes with partimage ( http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page ) which is an excellent harddisk cloning tool. partimage can also restore your mbr which is very important. The other solution offered (mondorescue etc.) are imo more backup options then imaging solutions Also clonezilla: http://clonezilla.sourceforge.net/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/clonezilla-sysresccd/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is beagle supposed to find emails?
Am Donnerstag, 25. Oktober 2007 21:42:48 schrieb Carlos E. R.: The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 21:11 +0200, Guido Pinkernell wrote: So, I try to find some thing. I bring up the search dialog, and tell it to find suse. Do you use kerry I have started kerry and ticked out evolution, kmail, and thunderbird - there is no plain Mail folder search, like Pine or Mutt. Ah. That's (probably) it. I don't know whether there is a backend that indexes plain E-Mail folders. But I have disabled the daemon, as it is unable to find anything useful and wastes almost a gigabyte in my home. Well I had problems with beagle indexing my documents, which is teh main reason I (not only keep but) need beagle. It does that now, so I allow him to keep running. Guido -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How does one upgrade to the next stable release of openSUSE?
On Thursday 25 October 2007 12:42, Aniruddha wrote: I am trying to learn as much as I can about openSUSE, however there is one crucial design philosophy I have difficulty to grasp; openSUSE way of handeling updates. I wonder: -Which ways are there to update openSUSE from one stable release to another? The installer is designed for either fresh installation (ignoring any existing one) or an upgrade installation, which is done incrementally w.r.t. an existing installation. You make an explicit selection of which mode early on when running the installer. -Is it also possible to skip a release when updating? e.g. is it possible to update 10 to 10.3 or 9 to 10.2? It is, but see below. I recall one person recently mentioning here (this list) successfully doing a 10.0 - 10.3 upgrade. More below. - Is there also an incremental stable (not factory) update possibility? This would mean that when openSUSE 11 is released openSUSE 10.3 users have already updated to 11 incrementally meaning no need for upgrading. Here are some of my perspectives, views and opinions. They are neither authoritative, definitive nor official. - The view long held by those among us inclined to be conservative about system stability and integrity have generally had a strong preference for using only clean installs, not upgrades. - I think it's likely (without having any particular evidence for it— just a hunch) that skipping more releases is likely to increase the risk of there being issues during upgrade. - I have used only clean installs until the release of openSUSE 10.3, which I applied as an upgrade from 10.2. There are several salient facts surrounding this, however: -- It was not convenient for me (for irrelevant reasons) to do a clean install. -- The machine was not a critical resource. -- The machine was running nearly a stock installation of 10.2. -- I spent considerable time during the actual installation process using the installer to resolve package conflicts. -- I spent considerable time after the installation was complete performing further cleaning up of left-over packages from the 10.2 installation (see the thread How To Route Out Leftover Pre-Upgrade Packages? from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:50 (PDT == GMT - 0700)). - I encountered a problem with the installer in which it failed to install GRUB. I had to mangle it manually, and this is not something for amateurs. - It is immensely helpful to have a separate working system with Internet access so you can access on-line resources to help you with any difficulties that might arise. - When I asked about a 10.2 - 10.3 upgrade that would have gone from 32-bit to 64-bit, I was told this would not work. I decided not to try, and stuck with 32-bit. Overall, I'm satisfied with the result of my 10.2 - 10.3 upgrade, but I'd still prefer clean installations. Were it convenient or had the system been a more critical resource or had it diverged more from a stock installation, I would have been even more reluctant to have tried an upgrade. In short, unless you have fair expertise in Linux and SUSE internals and have good fallback computing resources, I'd stick to a clean installation. ... Aniruddha Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Laptop display switching
On Saturday 20 October 2007, Ben Kevan wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 05:19:43 pm Kai Ponte wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007 16:44, peter nikolic wrote: Hi Having just tried touse 10.3 on the laptop i use for presentations snip How do you have SaX Configured? Can you tell us so we can possibly help. Well just how much help they will be i dont know but here are the xorg.conf files from both the 10.2 and 10.3 installs I will leave the font sections off to save a bit of space 10.2 .. Section Monitor DisplaySize 331 207 HorizSync29-62 Identifier Monitor[0] ModelNameAUO LCD MONITOR Option DPMS VendorName AUO VertRefresh 43-60 UseModes Modes[0] EndSection Section Modes Identifier Modes[0] Modeline 1280x800 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828 Modeline 1280x800 69.75 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 +HSync -Vsy nc Modeline 1280x768 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795 Modeline 1280x768 67.00 1280 1328 1360 1440 768 771 778 790 +HSync -Vsy nc Modeline 1024x768 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795 Modeline 1024x768 55.00 1024 1072 1104 1184 768 771 775 790 +HSync -Vsy nc Modeline 1280x600 61.50 1280 1336 1464 1648 600 601 604 622 Modeline 1280x600 52.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 600 603 613 619 +HSync -Vsy nc Modeline 1024x600 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 Modeline 1024x600 43.00 1024 1072 1104 1184 600 603 613 619 +HSync -Vsy nc Modeline 800x600 38.22 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622 Modeline 800x600 34.75 800 848 880 960 600 603 607 617 +HSync -Vsync Modeline 768x576 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 Modeline 768x576 32.25 768 816 848 928 576 579 583 593 +HSync -Vsync Modeline 640x480 23.86 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497 Modeline 640x480 23.25 640 688 720 800 480 483 487 494 +HSync -Vsync Modeline 1024x768 66.33 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 796 Modeline 1024x600 50.60 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 Modeline 800x600 39.49 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622 Modeline 768x576 36.13 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 Modeline 640x480 24.70 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 498 EndSection Section Screen DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1280x800 1280x768 1024x768 1280x600 1024x600 800x600 768x576 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x800 1280x768 1024x768 1280x600 1024x600 800x600 768x576 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x800 1280x768 1024x768 1280x600 1024x600 800x600 768x576 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1280x800 1280x768 1024x768 1280x600 1024x600 800x600 768x576 640x480 EndSubSection Device Device[0] Identifier Screen[0] Monitor Monitor[0] EndSection Section Device BoardNameRadeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) BusID1:5:0 Driver radeon Identifier Device[0] Option SaXDualHead Option IgnoreEDID Option MergedFB Option SaXDualMonitorVendor -- VESA Option CRT2VRefresh 50-60 Option CRT2Position Clone Option usevnc no Option MetaModes 1280x800,1024x768;1280x768,1024x768;1024x768,1024x76 8;1280x600,1280x600;1024x600,1024x600;800x600,800x600;768x576,768x576;640x480,64 0x480 Option SaXDualOrientation LeftOf Option SaXDualResolution 1024x768 Option SaXDualMode Clone Option CRT2HSync 31-50 Option SaXDualHSync 31-50 Option SaXDualMonitorModel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Option SaXDualVSync 50-60 Screen 0 VendorName ATI EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout[all] InputDevice Keyboard[0] CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse[1] CorePointer InputDevice Mouse[3] SendCoreEvents Option Clone off Option Xinerama off Screen Screen[0] EndSection Section DRI Group video Mode 0660 EndSection Section Extensions EndSection 10.3 ... Section Monitor DisplaySize 331 207 HorizSync30-62 Identifier Monitor[0] ModelNameAUO LCD MONITOR Option DPMS VendorName AUO VertRefresh 43-60 UseModes Modes[0] EndSection Section Modes Identifier Modes[0] Modeline 1280x800 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828 Modeline 1280x800 69.75 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 +HSync -VSy nc Modeline 1024x768 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795 Modeline 1024x768 55.00 1024 1072 1104 1184 768 771 775 790 +HSync -VSy nc Modeline 800x600 38.22 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622 Modeline 800x600 34.75 800 848 880 960 600 603 607 617 +HSync -VSync EndSection Section Screen DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1280x800 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection SubSection Display
[opensuse] updater problem
Today I noticed problem with openSUSE updater I have 2 computers 1 PC and 1 Laptop both have openSUSE 10.3 1CD KDE On PC everything is ok but on laptop I have no updates for my system I tried to run YaST software Update configuration and it show me that everything is ok but when I click on updater menu to check now it display after some time that there is no updates avilable I noticed it after firefox update on PC ant tried to update it on laptop using openSUSE updater Is anyone noticed this problem?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Wish?! process running at 100%
When I look with top I see a process 'wish' eating away all my cpu. Anyone knows what this process does? top %CPU 28314 aniruddh 25 0 85984 19m 5076 R 94.3 1.0 0:42.86 wish -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub on CD
On Thursday 25 October 2007 18:32:13 David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote: Clive Rogers wrote: Hello All, I have a friend who is trying Linux after listening to me go on about how good and stable it is for a few years. He is happy to install to a partition on his harddrive but is not happy to have grub in his mbr. So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? Why not just get rid of the graphic splash, set widows as the default and set the timeout to 1 second. He would probably never even notice grub. If he then wanted to boot linux, he could just tap a key during boot to stop the timeout and boot to linux. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com Thanks David. This was my suggestion to him but he wants to do it from CD. -- Kindest regards, Clive http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.rogers/ Fighting for darker skies. From 52:26ºN 01:27ºW (Coventry, UK) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub on CD
On Thursday 25 October 2007 20:15:10 Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-10-25 at 18:12 +0100, Clive Rogers wrote: So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? I think you could tell Yast to install grub on a floppy. When that works, you burn a CD (with k3b, for instance) telling it to use the floppy as an El Torito boot image. The actual data of the CD doesn't matter (maybe you have to 'dd' the floppy to a file first). Of course, he needs a floppy drive first... And I haven't tried this procedure with Linux, only with msdos; so I can't certify it works. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. He don't have a floppy on his laptop. -- Kindest regards, Clive http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.rogers/ Fighting for darker skies. From 52:26ºN 01:27ºW (Coventry, UK) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Yast/Sax2 Bug - ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
Sax2 does not properly recognize the ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series card on Toshiba P35 laptops and incorrectly selects ATI Rv350 NP as the card and provides a pop-up saying that 3d isn't available: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/sax2ati3d_error.png glxinf and fglrxinfo both correctly see the card: 15:55 rankin-p35a~/Pictures/screenshots fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release This did not occur with the 8.41 driver. It did/does occur with the 8.40 and 8.42 ati driver. The card does support 3D, so this is very confusing when your are trying to get the drivers installed and troubleshoot the installation. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Compiz - How to put SuSE Updater back in the systray?
On 10.3, Compiz is working, but I can't get opensuse updater back into the systray? If I manually start it, when I close it, it goes completely away and doesn't remain active in the systray. I've tried add applet and add application, but that just sticks the button in there. I recall a prior post, but can't find it now. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Wish?! process running at 100%
Aniruddha wrote: When I look with top I see a process 'wish' eating away all my cpu. Anyone knows what this process does? top %CPU 28314 aniruddh 25 0 85984 19m 5076 R 94.3 1.0 0:42.86 wish Wild guess: Misbehaved tk application, which apparently ended, but wish continues on, chewing up resources... Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] One-Click Install
Is there a how to or general description of one-click install? -- Best regards, Dennis J. Tuchler University City, Missouri 63130 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] nagios on OpenSUSE 10.3
Hi all, I just installed nagios on OpenSUSE 10.3. Nagios Network Monitor 2.9-48 NagiosGrapher 1.6.1RC3-58 Nagios Remote Plug-in Executor 2.8.1-50 Nagios Service Check Accelerator Client 2.7.2-11 Nagios Plug-Ins 1.4.9-19 Nagios Plug-Ins Extra 1.4.9-19 Nagios Network Monitor 2.9-48 I went through the installation docs on http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/quickstart-opensuse.html The installation is for OpenSUSE 10.2. I noticed that the config files are quite somewhere else in 10.3. Up to point 7 the installation with YaST works. In the documentation, I tried and even got a test run done successfully with: nagios -v /etc/nagios/nagios.cfg Total Warnings: 0 Total Errors: 0 Things look okay - No serious problems were detected during the pre-flight check I started nagios as in point 7 with: service nagios start It went OK: # service nagios start Starting nagios done I installed autostarting of Nagios with boot: chkconfig --add nagios chkconfig nagios on I want to use FireFox as described in 8: http://localhost/nagios/ There is no entry or a directory in /srv/www/htdocs for nagios Has anyone done an installation on 10.3 and got it working with Apache? :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub on CD
Clive Rogers wrote: Hello All, I have a friend who is trying Linux after listening to me go on about how good and stable it is for a few years. He is happy to install to a partition on his harddrive but is not happy to have grub in his mbr. So my question is can grub be put onto a CD so if he wants to boot into linux he puts the CD in to the drive and let it boot into linux ? If you've ever installed SuSE off of a CD or DVD, the boot screen has the following options [ ] Boot Installed System [ ] Memtest86 [ ] Install SuSE Linux [ ] Safe Install SuSE Linux [the last option being one with the noapic and another option which prevents problems with older motherboards] So just use a SuSE install CD as a boot CD. If he can how would he go about putting a bootable copy of grub on a CD ? It's already on the SuSE install CD/DVD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How does one upgrade to the next stable release of openSUSE?
On Thursday 25 October 2007 21:28:23 Randall R Schulz wrote: It is, but see below. I recall one person recently mentioning here (this list) successfully doing a 10.0 - 10.3 upgrade. More below. I have just done a 10.1 to 10.3 upgrade with hardly any problems. -- Andrew Johnson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How does one upgrade to the next stable release of openSUSE?
On Thursday 25 October 2007 14:33, Andrew Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 October 2007 21:28:23 Randall R Schulz wrote: It is, but see below. I recall one person recently mentioning here (this list) successfully doing a 10.0 - 10.3 upgrade. More below. I have just done a 10.1 to 10.3 upgrade with hardly any problems. Unless they were entirely idiosyncratic or perhaps just cockpit error, it might be helpful to hear a bit about the problems you did encounter and how you resolved them. Andrew Johnson Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
