[opensuse] Scrollwheel kind of working
My scrollwheel doesn't work properly, my xorg.conf looks like this: Section InputDevice Driver mouse Identifier Mouse[1] Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Name ExplorerPS/2 on USB Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Vendor USB-Mouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Clicking the wheel (mouse button 3) works, it brings up the smooth scroll function in Firefox, but scrolling the wheel only runs Firefox through the browsing history... Is there a setting I've missed? It's a Logitech G5 Laser Mouse, by the way. /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
I'd like to know how to get the thumb button and the scroll wheel's left/right scroll to work. In Windows I have mapped the buttons to middle click and Alt+left/right respectively. I'd like to have the same mapping in openSUSE 10.2 too... /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Bash automatic screen
I love screen but sometimes I forget to run it before I leave something running. Therefore I can't close the session or resume it from another location. Is there a smart way to make it run and resume an existing session or start a new if there's no session, when I start bash? /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bash automatic screen
Konsole is what I'm using. But Konsole doesn' t seem to try reconnection to an existing session. I'll see what I can come up with after playing with .bash_profile. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Keyboard layouts gone
ken wrote: On 05/26/2007 03:38 PM somebody named Jan Karjalainen wrote: ken wrote: On 05/26/2007 08:48 AM somebody named Jan Karjalainen wrote: ken wrote: On 05/26/2007 08:01 AM somebody named Jan Karjalainen wrote: All the keyboard layouts in my openSUSE 10.2 are gone. No special characters or keys work, and Keyboard Layout in YaST shows no layouts available. How do I get the keyboard layouts back? /J Assuming your using a PC, do you have any files or directories under /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/? ls /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/ gives: azerty dvorak fgGIod include qwerty qwertz The qwerty directory contains the keymap I need (sv-latin1.map.gz). Okay. So then what happens when you run (as root) /etc/init.d/kbd status and /etc/init.d/kbd start ?? /etc/init.d/kbd status Keymap /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/sv-latin1.map.gz is loaded. /etc/init.d/kbd start This gives not output. The YaST Keyboard Layout app is completely empty of any layouts... Typing of international and special characters won't work, especially those that require the Alt key. Switch to a console (text-only) screen and see if the keyboard works there. I logged out (as ctrl+alt+f1 won't work) and logged in to the console, and there the keyboard mapping works! After running startx and waiting for KDE to load, the keyboard mapping is gone. -- Its failings notwithstanding, there is much to be said in favor of journalism in that by giving us the opinion of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community. -- Oscar Wilde smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[opensuse] Keyboard layouts gone
All the keyboard layouts in my openSUSE 10.2 are gone. No special characters or keys work, and Keyboard Layout in YaST shows no layouts available. How do I get the keyboard layouts back? /J -- Base 2 is a difficult base for computers to perform arithmetic in, particularly if the task involves variables, negative, fixed or floating point numbers. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] Keyboard layouts gone
ken wrote: On 05/26/2007 08:01 AM somebody named Jan Karjalainen wrote: All the keyboard layouts in my openSUSE 10.2 are gone. No special characters or keys work, and Keyboard Layout in YaST shows no layouts available. How do I get the keyboard layouts back? /J Assuming your using a PC, do you have any files or directories under /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/? ls /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/ gives: azerty dvorak fgGIod include qwerty qwertz The qwerty directory contains the keymap I need (sv-latin1.map.gz). -- Life is that brief interlude between nothingness and eternity. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] Keyboard layouts gone
ken wrote: On 05/26/2007 08:48 AM somebody named Jan Karjalainen wrote: ken wrote: On 05/26/2007 08:01 AM somebody named Jan Karjalainen wrote: All the keyboard layouts in my openSUSE 10.2 are gone. No special characters or keys work, and Keyboard Layout in YaST shows no layouts available. How do I get the keyboard layouts back? /J Assuming your using a PC, do you have any files or directories under /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/? ls /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/ gives: azerty dvorak fgGIod include qwerty qwertz The qwerty directory contains the keymap I need (sv-latin1.map.gz). Okay. So then what happens when you run (as root) /etc/init.d/kbd status and /etc/init.d/kbd start ?? /etc/init.d/kbd status Keymap /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/sv-latin1.map.gz is loaded. /etc/init.d/kbd start This gives not output. The YaST Keyboard Layout app is completely empty of any layouts... Typing of international and special characters won't work, especially those that require the Alt key. -- Affliction, like the iron-smith, shapes as it smites. -- Christian Nestell Bovee smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 S Glasoe wrote: On Monday May 14 2007 10:08:29 pm frank nelson wrote: Only fair. It would be a bit hypocritical to demand a standard for others, that one does not demand of oneself. Ah that'd be Microsoft Marketing 101 just down the hall second door on the right. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1729908,00.asp Quote from article: But Ravicher said Ballmer misinterpreted his study's findings. He misconstrues the point of the OSRM study, which found that Linux potentially, not definitely, infringes 283 untested patents, while not infringing a single court-validated patent. The point of the study was actually to eliminate the FUD about Linux's alleged legal problems by attaching a quantifiable measure versus the speculation, he said. And the number we found, to anyone familiar with this issue, is so average as to be boring; almost any piece of software potentially infringes at least that many patents. /J - -- There's nothing a concentrated phaser blast can't solve. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGSa+8Jvr6GUkh0/0RApuGAJoDqunJ5i9kdLxk00hAEYJv0KV4FgCg4nCk +1ulmNF/CvUbVcgUf2U+YfY= =KVV1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007
Dave Howorth wrote: Jan Karjalainen wrote: S Glasoe wrote: On Monday May 14 2007 10:08:29 pm frank nelson wrote: Only fair. It would be a bit hypocritical to demand a standard for others, that one does not demand of oneself. Ah that'd be Microsoft Marketing 101 just down the hall second door on the right. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1729908,00.asp Did you look at the date on this article and the date in the subject line? Yes, but the quote (snip below) does stands as true, even if it's a couple of years old. the OSRM study, which found that Linux potentially, not definitely, infringes 283 untested patents, while not infringing a single court-validated patent. -- I'd really like to lay one across your teeth. -- Beverly -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which distro is best for me?
I'd like to have an option to have the result emailed to me, if I want. -- Jan Karjalainen - www.fmbv.nu A 25th lvl CE mage/cleric? I pinch her butt! -- Famous Last Words -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
On 4/22/07, Robert Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 19:07, M Harris wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 21:38, Druid wrote: oh no, another newbie invading the thread I was just noticing that over that past several days of hundreds of accumulated threads related to openSUSE--- you were involved in four of them... and each and every time you managed to directly insult one of more individuals (usually with profane vulgarity) and with total disregard for the feelings of the present recipient or of the sensibilities of the people that frequent this list generally. Is there a reason for this... I mean, were you abused as a child or something..? I'm sure the real reason is that he wants us all to see if we can figure out how to use our kill filters in Kmail. That, or he's a Micro$oft troll trying to ensure open-suse mailing lists drive people away. Oh well, I have a couple of filters to add Yes, he is a jerk. I have filtered him too, as he's only trying to annoy people. I wish there was a way to ban people from a list... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Word for all of us... [OT]
My mother hates lizards, she freaks out when she sees a pic of a real lizard on my SUSE desktop! :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] list options
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Re: [opensuse] list options
dwain wrote: On Saturday 14 April 2007, Jan Karjalainen wrote: This mail is sent from Gmail... So is this, but not from the web site. Any time I have mailed the list from the web site I get a notice that it is undeliverable because it is html. There is an option plain text vs. rich formatting in the menu left of the text alignment options. -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] list options
Jan Karjalainen wrote: dwain wrote: On Saturday 14 April 2007, Jan Karjalainen wrote: This mail is sent from Gmail... So is this, but not from the web site. Any time I have mailed the list from the web site I get a notice that it is undeliverable because it is html. There is an option plain text vs. rich formatting in the menu left of the text alignment options. I meant RIGHT of the text alignment options... duh! -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Sandy Drobic wrote: James Knott wrote: Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now. I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^) Thunderbird:1.5.10 Enigmail: 0.94.3 reply to list: 0.1 Don't know anymore, where I got it from... Try http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Jan Karjalainen wrote: Sandy Drobic wrote: James Knott wrote: Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now. I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^) Thunderbird: 1.5.10 Enigmail:0.94.3 reply to list:0.1 Don't know anymore, where I got it from... Try http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension Actually I found one version that doesn' t need a patched Thunderbird: http://cweiske.de/misc_extensions.htm -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Peter Bradley wrote: Ysgrifennodd Jos van Kan: You should not *install* it in Firefox, but *save* it somewhere. (I have a directory downloads for this type of thing). Then in TB click ToolsExtensionsinstall. It opens up a file dialogbox where you can click on the file just saved. bingo, it installs *in TB* this time. Regards, Well, I managed to download mnenhy using Konq in the end. It then installed in TB just fine and the Reply to List button became active. But does it work? No. Clicking the button has no effect. Zilch. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling Reply to List in case it was an order of installation thing. Still the same. And yes, I am using SuSE. Couldn't install enigmail as it apparently wants Thunderbird v2.0. So I'm giving up. Apologies to those who might get unintentional off-list replies from me. Peter Try this one (I modified it to work with TB 1.5): http://www.fmbv.nu/replyToList-0.1.xpi It doesn't need enigmail or any other extensions to work. -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US
Sweden, 24 Mbit down - 1 Mbit up, 349 SEK / month = 40 euros / month. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
Theo v. Werkhoven wrote: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi all ! I much prefer the PHPbb forum to mailing-lists, so I would like to request building such a centralized forum, as there are many available currently, but no central one. The one I liked most (in design) is: http://opensuse.us/ What do you think about building a new one or declaring some currently existing one as the official? Webforum suck. In Mutt I can go through the 200-300 posts of a day in maybe one hour, delete threads with a few finger moves, reply here and there, maybe save worthwile contributions. There are no distraction in Mutt, I can see as many mails or threads as I like, I can use my own filters, spam is no problem, in short: reading a mailinglist is effortless. If I compare this to the pain of a web based message bulletin, where every visit is another how stupid is this stuff, I can't even imagine why people would want to use a forum for anything serious. But hey: feel free to devote your own time to YAFF Theo Mutt sucks. But hey, to each and everyone his/her own! /J -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Thomas Hertweck wrote: Alexey Eremenko wrote: I'm happy, that at least one man around is supporting me ! I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of hand from my point of view, so having at least all the official SuSE packages on a nice (modular) DVD ISO set is something very useful... Th. I add my support to this too. -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Druid wrote: I disagree, the current size fits much use cases already, and not even the boxed set has all the rpms. A fraction of the people need this. They could make the dvd fitted to their needs with programs like kiwi, jigdo. Except this is the case if you don't have internet access. Pretty hard to do jigdo then, via snail mail maybe? ;-) -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Jonathan Arsenault wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:36 +0200, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Druid wrote: I disagree, the current size fits much use cases already, and not even the boxed set has all the rpms. A fraction of the people need this. They could make the dvd fitted to their needs with programs like kiwi, jigdo. Except this is the case if you don't have internet access. Pretty hard to do jigdo then, via snail mail maybe? ;-) The same freaking way he would get the .iso for the DVD in the first place ... -- Why can't humans just reboot instead of sleeping, so much wasted cycles -Zombie Coder. Jonathan Arsenault - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://jarpack.net The retail box? Is it hard to understand that not everyone (hey, the ones who aren't on this list for instance) does have internet access, and if they have, it often is dialup. -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
Dave Crouse wrote: So, My how-to's on installing suse ftp ver9.1 that has 95,000+ page views are just irrelevant dribble and we should just close down all the forums because a few of you don't see any virtue in them ? Perhaps Webforum suck. to YOU, but they DO NOT to everyone else. There is room in the community for MORE than just mailing lists. No one said you HAVE to join one you know, but thanks for running us down ... we appreciate your support soo much. Crouse Site Admin OpenSUSE.us There's always the types who say I read my mail in binary, I don' t need forums!, don't mind them. Too bad that they are that vocal, though... -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Jonathan Arsenault wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 16:46 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Thomas Hertweck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-07 16:18]: [...] I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of hand from my point of view, so having at least all the official SuSE packages on a nice (modular) DVD ISO set is something very useful... me 2:^0 -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Why not simply reverting back to having ONLY FTP and no iso at all, maybe that would shut you guys up a bit ... But N lets pull a Debian and publish 300 iso to the point we loose half of the mirrors we have ... 56K or not if you can manage to sync a 3.8GB iso file you can do the same with a RPMs directory. For open source advocate, you are quite conservative. If there's an idea that might help someone, why not let it happen? If you don't need it, don't get involved in the discussion. -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
jdd wrote: Jonathan Arsenault wrote: 56K or not if you can manage to sync a 3.8GB iso file you can do the same with a RPMs directory. as I said, the problem is to identify rpm-dvd number to make burnig dvd easy. after that I could copy them to friends... jdd Jonathan Arsenault is also missing the point that some people don't have internet connection AT ALL... -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Druid wrote: For open source advocate, you are quite conservative. If there's an idea that might help someone, why not let it happen? If one is about to download 2 DVDs in dial up he is screwed anyway, wouldnt matter if he rsyncs rpms, downloads an ISO, 2 ISOs or etc Use kiwi or jigdo, pack a repo locally, dunno You say you are solving a problem when in fact you are creating dozens of other problems for mirror admins, for ISPs, for mirrors, for the whole infrastructure. Its easier to get greedy and say screw you all, do what I want Marcio --- druid Oh, who said someone was going to download 2 DVDs via dialup? The solution of having the ftp tree on DVDs is for the people on dialup or no internet access at all. It is doable, if you don't know or have the energy to think out how then let someone else worry about it. -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Druid wrote: Oh, who said someone was going to download 2 DVDs via dialup? The solution of having the ftp tree on DVDs is for the people on dialup or no internet access at all. It is doable, if you don't know or have the energy to think out how then let someone else worry about it. If you dont know the implications or dont have the intelligence to, even after I point it clearly, you need to let other people think about it. Its doable, I think there is no problem means I have no idea what this would cause, but I really dont care Intelligence..? Show some by replying correctly in the thread You stated that you clearly pointed out something. Let's see: You say you are solving a problem when in fact you are creating dozens of other problems for mirror admins, for ISPs, for mirrors, for the whole infrastructure. Dozens of other problems? Oh, that! It can't get any more crystal clear than that... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [opensuse] best file distribution technology for my case?
Anders Johansson wrote: On Friday 06 April 2007 20:35:44 Carlos E. R. wrote: The Friday 2007-04-06 at 19:55 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote: bittorrent does have security: the initial seed or link inlcudes checksums. Indeed. You can be absolutely sure that the virus you receive is identical to the virus that was sent A checksum isn't security, it is fault protection Should I remind you that SuSE/Novell uses torrent to distribute the iso images of the distribution? Indeed, the virus that SuSE distributes is the one I have installed in my system, alive and running - it is called opensuse linux! That doesn't change the fact that bittorrent in itself doesn't have security. It also doesn't change the fact that a checksum is not a security feature. It only helps you ensure that what you get is what the other side sent. In the end, you're still stuck with the question do I trust the sender. Bittorrent doesn't help you with that Which protocol does that, I'd like to know... In the end, you have to trust to source, right? Unless it's source code, then you can check out the code for yourself. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Linus loves GPL v2 ---- and is not on a crusade
M Harris wrote: On Wednesday 21 March 2007 22:22, Peter Van Lone wrote: snip It just seems to me that there is a kind of religious intensity that is out of place -- the world is destined to have both F/OSS and proprietary (closed source) software. There has to be a mechanism for allowing these two approaches to software development and licensing, to co-exist peacefully. To interoperate to all of our advantage. The statement is a contradiction in terms. Interoperability is only relevant during the transition... once the transition is complete M$ and their entire product line are irrelevant. At this point interoperability is only relevant at the enterprise level (which, by the way was the target of the M$-Novell deal). In my home and business M$ is completely irrelevant today. Personally, I want the influence of linux to grow, and that of Microsoft to diminish. I want to see linux become the predominate (or, most influential) desktop OS. I believe that in order to become an order of magnatude more influential than it is currently (especially on the desktop) that it will have to penetrate both the corp and home user worlds. **This won't happen without some changes --- changes that are resisted by stallwarts in the community.** **This** is already happening right before your eyes... and its because of the stallwarts in the community. I understand the outrage of the FSF people concerning what they see as Novell essentially giving into greivous thuggary in the form of Microsoft's patent and other bullying. Richard Stallman and Bruce Perens (both titans and honorable people) are emphatic in their belief that **proprietary software and software patents** are just wrong headed and ... plain wrong. RMS is completely vindicated... M$ has become our worst nightmare and RMS predicted that final conclusion years ago. **Its** wrong not because RMS is pigheaded, but because its wrong. But while I get the Cathedral and the Bazarre and I accept that for many projects and in many ways, an OPEN model of development is just better and makes more sense ... while I get that, I also accept and understand that proprietary software itself is not evil. Proprietary software is an outdated protectionist evil, the fruit of jealousy and greed. The very nature of open (free) (call it righteous, call it true) software is that it not only functions, it communicates and propagates the art... centered in a sharing caring spirit with the community interests upheld first... and also carried forward with a certain spirit of humility--- begging for honest critique and challenging others to better it and carry it still further. I have never been able to accept true believers and beliefs in anything. I think everything, --- and particularly things like commerce and trading and human organizations and belief systems and governments and legal systems and contracts and --- are necessarily colored in shades of grey. Shades of grey... sigh What fellowship has light with darkness? Walk in the darkness, or walk in the light. Grey choices are just degrees of 'less' light. And I also -- though this is harder to swallow and even to say -- don't think that Microsoft itself is evil. I think, often wrong. Often, bad for the industry. Often (and never really punished) illegal and immoral in it's conduct. snip You just defined corporate evil bubba. And M$ is evil---end of story. Personally, as to Novell's deal with Microsoft, I think it was a first. And therefore awkward and not ... ideal. And, likely, needed to happen in some guise at some time. Can Microsoft be trusted? Well ... no, not if you mean by trust that Microsoft will abandon it's plans to subvert linux and F/OSS in general. But on the other hand, does the agreement actually acomplish ANYTHING, other than communicate safety to corporate accounts? I don't think so. Dance with the devil... lose your soul. It is not a legal precedent that can effectively be used. The most that can be said is that it gave Ballmer a stage upon which to howl. Ballmer is going to howl himself into an early grave if he isn't careful... So ... I am waiting to hear more voices like Linus Torvalds, who wants to keep away from the labels of evil, the true believing mantras that seem to hold sway as the main voices from the community right now. RMS has convictions... and I respect him for them. I share some of those same convictions. I respect and admire the principles and passions of the community. I just also happen to believe, that pure F/OSS can co-exist with proprietary software and companies. And, actually, I believe that for linux to penetrate even deeper into the corp world (especially in the desktop) that alliances like the Novell/Microsoft alliance will be key. Nope. It is happening and the only key role M$ has played is to be so evil that the
Re: [opensuse] Revolution - Seamless Mode Virtualization !
- Original Message - From: Alexey Eremenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OpenSuSE-en [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:44:42 +0100 Subject: [opensuse] Revolution - Seamless Mode Virtualization ! Less than a month from a proprietary offering - Parralels Coherence - comes an Open-Source response. screenshot: http://www.virtualbox.org/attachment/ticket/149/snapshot-Win-a.jpg look: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/149 -What do you think of it? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- I think it looks great! VirtualBox keeps on getting better! /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?
John Andersen wrote: On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote: Greg Freemyer escribió: Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost? Yes and they are probably one the best in the mass virtual hosting market. If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS. They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support. Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive. Usual Disclaimers apply. I use Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3), which is cheap and fast! http://aws.amazon.com/s3 I recommend using JungleDisk (http://www.jungledisk.com/) for easy access to your S3 repository. /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?
Greg Freemyer wrote: On 3/19/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Freemyer escribió: Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost? Yes and they are probably one the best in the mass virtual hosting market. We have different definitions of one of the best From their server I do a simple du on a couple GB of data. === [arizona]$ time du -sh * 120Mconfig-enc-raw 387Mhome-enc-raw 1.8Gsrv-enc-raw real64m27.529s user0m0.650s sys 0m2.540s === From my server with significantly larger superset of data: # time du -sh config-enc-raw/ home-enc-raw/ config-enc-raw/ 120Mconfig-enc-raw/ 10G home-enc-raw/ 1.8Gsrv-enc-raw/ real1m33.608s user0m0.568s sys 0m5.148s === Thats about 40 times slower than my machine with is nothing special (ie. 5 year old P4 technology with a 3ware dual-channel raid-1 setup). I'm still testing. (I need to time some actual rsync passes. I'm particularly curious how it responds in the middle of the night.) If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS. I have one from slicehost, but they don't even offer 300GB+ of disk capacity . Greg Re: Amazon S3 There's also Synchronize (http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/applications/synchronize.html), which is a part of JetS3t http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Recommended by Microsoft
JB wrote: On 07 March 07 13:06, Peter Bradley wrote: I've tried to ignore the business of Novell's agreement with MS, but today Novell wrote to me offering a free seminar on SUSE Linux Enterprise 10. In their email they inform me that SUSE is, The only Linux recommended by Microsoft. Are they deliberately trying to annoy me? Are you serious!? It actually said that!? That's just...*wrong*. It utterly disgusts me. Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft. Now that I've read what they did above, Novell isn't getting a penny from me again either. I've used SuSE since 7.3 Are you guys for real? What if Novell does business with Microsoft? Does it make ground for boycott? What about USA? If you don't agree with Bush/Iraq war/secret CIA prisons/whatever, you better boycott USA too! Oh, wait... Novell makes great products, I don't care who or what they do business with (as long as it's not illegal or immoral). Should you boycott USA too? Oh, many of you live there..! What to do...? I don't like Bush/Iraq war/secret CIA prisons/whatever, but I don't blast every american I see because of that. The world is not Black and White, as some make it to look like! My recommendation is to GROW UP and stop this childish rant or at least take it to the OT list!!! /JK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Hardware req. for server?
What's the hardware requirements for openSUSE 10.2 in text mode only? I have a Pentium II 300MHz with 192 MB RAM, which I'm going to use as a web and ftp/nfs/samba server. Does it have enough horsepower, or should I look for another distro? /J -- Attempted murder, really, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry? -Sideshow Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.3 alpha torrent
The DVD-torrent for 10.3 i386 alpha doesn't seem to get any seeder... /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Sticky notes
Is there a program for openSUSE 10.2 like Stickes (http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/stickies/index.html)? /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sticky notes
Rikard Johnels wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 19:51, Anders Johansson wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 19:39, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Is there a program for openSUSE 10.2 like Stickes (http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/stickies/index.html)? tomboy? KNotes does exactly the same thing. KNotes was exactly what I was lookign for! Thanks guys! /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] FAT32 max size - 5 GB OK?
Wade Jones wrote: Janus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How large can a FAT32 partition be? Is 5 GB possible? http://www.google.com/search?q=fat32+max+partition+size First Link= http://www.mcmcse.com/windows_xp/guides/filesystems.shtml Yes, but the maximum single file size on a FAT32 partition is 4 GB, regardless of the size of the partition. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Excellent news: VirtualBox full virtualization OSS solution for Linux!
Kjartan Geble Olsen wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:21:30 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that only the commercial version has usb support, as well access to local file systems. There are rumblings of adding some of this to the open source version. Nothing definite. Usb/Suse/VM seems to be a bit difficult judging by google.. Other than that it looks (and behave) really nice. How was the speed? Did it require kernel modules? I would imagine so. At least on SUSE where the kernel is before 2.6.20 with the new virtualization support. Speed seems to be good, I didn't really notice any significant slowdown compared to a real pc. No kernel modules required on 2.6.18. As far as I understand it usb is supported, but not with a deafult usbfs config on Suse..? --The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² --To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or maybe it's that USB is supported in the closed source version, and not in the open source version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Peerguardian functionality wanted
I'd like to know if there's a way to implement Peerguardian (http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/) type of funtion in Linux/openSUSE? What I want is to have a regularly updated blocklists from (http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/) and implement these rules (after converting them with Blocklist Converter) in the firewall/iptables. These lists tend to grow big, 5-6 MBs if all IP ranges are merged into one. Therefore I'd like to also know if there's any performance penalty during operation. During start I can understand if it takes longer, but it's the operational performance I'm interested in. As a sidenote, on WinXP the Peerguardian program with the above mentioned list shows as 0-1% in Task Manager, which is negligible. Is there any script/program out there that fills my needs, or do I have to study up on Bash scripting and iptables? /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Reg. expression
I'd like to go through a file and find all the lines with the word LOG in them. How do I do that? Like ^(*[LOG]*)$ or what...? /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reg. expression
Brian Jackson wrote: On Wednesday 07 February 2007 14:38, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I'd like to go through a file and find all the lines with the word LOG in them. How do I do that? Like ^(*[LOG]*)$ or what...? grep LOG [filename] I think you're trying to make this more complicated than it is. Now if you want LOG to be a word by itself, then: grep ' LOG ' [filename] Of if it can be at the beginning or end of a line... grep '\bLOG\b' [filename] good luck, brian Thanks for the tip, but I knew about grep already. It's because of an application that has a search and replace function which supports regular expressions... /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reg. expression
Randall R Schulz wrote: Jan, On Wednesday 07 February 2007 14:49, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Brian Jackson wrote: On Wednesday 07 February 2007 14:38, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I'd like to go through a file and find all the lines with the word LOG in them. How do I do that? Like ^(*[LOG]*)$ or what...? grep LOG [filename] I think you're trying to make this more complicated than it is. Now if you want LOG to be a word by itself, then: grep ' LOG ' [filename] Of if it can be at the beginning or end of a line... grep '\bLOG\b' [filename] I usually just use the -w option when I want to find the pattern only as a full word (i.e., be bounded on each end by either a line beginning or end or by a non-alphanumeric character). % grep --help ... -w, --word-regexp force PATTERN to match only whole words ... Of course, the \b (and it's close relative, \B) is more flexible, giving you the ability to place the pattern at a word boundary on one end and not the other. good luck, brian Thanks for the tip, but I knew about grep already. It's because of an application that has a search and replace function which supports regular expressions... Are you saying you need not simply to find the lines that contain LOG but also to apply some modification to such lines? Then you'll want sed or awk or possibly to use Perl. Can you clarify what you need to accomplish? Based on your original question, Brian's answer seems correct and appropriate. I'm trying to parse through a file and delete all the lines with the word LOG on it, eg. replace it with . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reg. expression
Brian Jackson wrote: On Wednesday 07 February 2007 15:19, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I'm trying to parse through a file and delete all the lines with the word LOG on it, eg. replace it with . That's not the same thing as finding all lines with LOG. perl -pi -e 's/LOG//' [filename] (hey, wasn't this a thread last week? :-D) Wait, delete all lines with LOG or replace the string 'LOG' with ''? 2 different tasks. brian I found the expression: .+LOG.+ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reg. expression
Randall R Schulz wrote: Jan, On Wednesday 07 February 2007 15:30, Jan Karjalainen wrote: ... On Wednesday 07 February 2007 15:19, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I'm trying to parse through a file and delete all the lines with the word LOG on it, eg. replace it with . ... I found the expression: .+LOG.+ You're still making it too complicated for programs such as ed, vi, grep, egrep or sed, patterns are not required to match the whole line. That means the .+ parts are redundant. If you really want to exclude from treatment those lines where LOG occurs at the beginning or end, then use the pattern .LOG. (sans quotes, of course). Under some circumstances regular expression efficiency matters little, but given the size to which log files can grow, more efficient regular expressions are worth using. So here's what you want to do: % sed -e '/LOG/d' originalLogFile filteredLogFile If you really want to exclude those lines where LOG occurs at the beginning or end, then use this: % sed -e '/.LOG./d' originalLogFile filteredLogFile Randall Schulz The word LOG appears somewhere 2/3 in the line... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Bash script help needed
How do I go through a text file and add ,on at the end of each line? /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bash script help needed
Anders Johansson wrote: On Monday 05 February 2007 20:09, Brian Jackson wrote: On Monday 05 February 2007 11:01, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Somehow all these examples add the ,on on a new line after each line, like this: 208.34.234.48-208.34.234.63 ,on 208.34.235.32-208.34.235.63 ,on etc... I want them to look like this: 208.34.234.48-208.34.234.63,on 208.34.235.32-208.34.235.63,on etc... Did your input file come from a DOS (ie windos) computer? The sed examples work just as well as the perl on I mentioned. if your file does have ^M's in it, you can strip them with this perl -pi -e 's/^M//g; s/$/,on' FILE or dos2unix filename dos2unix is in the dos2unix package, which should be installed by default Yes, it was the ^M that did it. Thanks for all the help! /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bash script help needed
To continue on the same subject, how do I remove extra spaces from the list? 111.222.111.222 - 222.111.222.111,on should be 111.222.111.222-222.111.222.111,on Note that there should be no spaces around the - sign. /J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [little survey] who's using...
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Re: [opensuse] [feature-request] password strength meter in Yast
Alexey Eremenko wrote: I have filled two feature-requests: Bug 237920 - Yast requires set of user passwords during openSUSE setup - plz make it non mandatory -and- [feature-request] password strength meter in Yast https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=238996 What do you think of those? -Alexey Eremenko. Just because one user doesn't want password setup won't make it logical to apply the same to all users. I'd say that 99.99% of all users set a password during setup, and are happy with it. /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [feature-request] password strength meter in Yast
Alexey Eremenko wrote: I have filled two feature-requests: Bug 237920 - Yast requires set of user passwords during openSUSE setup - plz make it non mandatory -and- [feature-request] password strength meter in Yast https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=238996 What do you think of those? -Alexey Eremenko. The password strength meter is a good idea, though! /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] .wmf and .wmv files
Doug McGarrett wrote: Hi, everyone-- I know the w in the file means Windows. Is there a plugin that will let Linuxers display these files? (Kaffeine comes up and says no way.) If there is, how do I find it and install it? These are from friends, so I don't think they are knowingly diseased. An aside: if they were diseased, i.e., infected with something that would be a problem in Windows, would it affect my Linux system? I think about this, but I'm not paranoid, and my XP system--when it's working--has enough added-in paranoia that I don't worry about it. --doug You need the win32 codec pack, you can find it from Packmans site. To make things easier, you should take a look at konvenientSUSE: (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378) /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] .wmf and .wmv files
russbucket wrote: On Wednesday January 24 2007 12:20, Doug McGarrett wrote: Hi, everyone-- I know the w in the file means Windows. Is there a plugin that will let Linuxers display these files? (Kaffeine comes up and says no way.) If there is, how do I find it and install it? These are from friends, so I don't think they are knowingly diseased. Both GIMP and Krita will open them, Then you can edit them and save them as jpeg, png etc. I've used GIMP for several years to do this. Also I think XNVIEW (Free Download) will also do it. Hope this helps --doug You do realize that he was talking about video files? -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] .wmf and .wmv files
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 January 2007 11:45, russbucket wrote: On Wednesday January 24 2007 13:19, Jan Karjalainen wrote: russbucket wrote: On Wednesday January 24 2007 12:20, Doug McGarrett wrote: Hi, everyone-- I know the w in the file means Windows. Is there a plugin that will let Linuxers display these files? (Kaffeine comes up and says no way.) If there is, how do I find it and install it? These are from friends, so I don't think they are knowingly diseased. Both GIMP and Krita will open them, Then you can edit them and save them as jpeg, png etc. I've used GIMP for several years to do this. Also I think XNVIEW (Free Download) will also do it. Hope this helps --doug You do realize that he was talking about video files? -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut No I must have missed that, sorry -- Russ Karbon14 also opens wmf files. don't know how, but that was the first open with option on my 10.1 install!! I was reading too fast, I saw just the wmv extension, wmf is windows metafile, a graphics format... /J' -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Need Router Recommendation
Jack Malone wrote: The last 2 routers I actually bought are Netgear. I used the 4-port first about 2 years before buying the FVS318 with 8 ports to replace it. That happened nearly 2 years ago now. Or maybe it was 3 then 2. Anyway, the old is my backup in case a problem develops with the new. -- I vote for netgear also. been using them for years. I have the FVS318 at work an love it tooo. jack I bought a Netgear RP614v4 in December, and had major problems with getting ftp to work. I took an old Pentium 300 and installed IPCop on it, and it rocks! /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 32 bit SuSE on 64 bit CPU
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. wrote: Although not new to linux I am not a hardware person. I have a rather simplist (perhaps) question. The question is whether 32 bit SuSE will work on a 64 bit CPU? I am planning on upgrading by linux machine to 64 bits and would like to use the primary master (linux installation only) on the new machine - which would make life considerably simpler for me. Thanks in advances Yes, you can run 32-bit SUSE on a 64-bit processor. In fact, one of my machines does just that... /JK -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] multimedia problems in 10.2
Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 08:38 -0500, Andy Harrison wrote: I'm not entirely sure what information to provide that would be helpful. I've got a fresh install of 10.2. The only player that works for any of my mp3's or video's (avi xvid and divx files) that I've tried is mplayer. Kaffeine, amarok, totem, noatun, juk, xmms, banshee, none of them work. The only one that yields an error message is banshee. The other's just look at the file and ignore it. XMMS won't even let me add it to the playlist. When I try banshee, it just says I don't have a decoder to handle this type of file. I have the w32codec-all-20061022-0.pm.0 rpm installed, but, like I said, I'm not sure what other information to provide. -- Andy Harrison Also install libxine1, from Packman (your installer will remove current libxine) Google a bit for Multimedia in OpenSuse, lots of resources out there. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm Check out konvenientSUSE (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378) /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How to play DVD
Greg Wallace wrote: On Monday, January 15, 2007 J Sloan wrote: Greg Wallace wrote: What an ordeal, just to be able to play a video (and then you're still having problems). So it seems xine and Kaffiene sort of work together and I need updates to both, is that right? I haven't installed many packages outside of what is provided from SuSE (maybe 2 or 3). Mostly software that comes with its own installation script. I've also never gotten anything off of packman. I just took a look out there and found gxine, xine-lib, xine-skins, and xine-ui packages. Looks like there's only one kaffeine package to worry about. So if I just install each of those packages should that do the trick? You're making things way too complicated, futzing around with individual downloads from here and there. Life will be a lot simpler when you just let the computer do the work. Use whatever package management system you want - yast, smart, apt, yum or whatever. Add the packman repos, and then tell the system to install a media player of your choice. It could be kaffeine, mplayer, xine or whatever you prefer. The package management system will then automagically pull in and install all the dependencies. If you want to play dvds, also install the dvdcss libs, last I heard they were available on the vlc site. Joe I've never added a third party repo before, but I assume all I need is the url. So, I went to the faq on the packman site to try to get that url. I went to the Help tab and clicked on the Packman FAQ link and it was written a foreign language (German?). Could you tell me what URL I need to add to YAST to get access to these packages? Thanks, Greg Wallace Try konvenientSUSE (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378), it´s like easyUbuntu for SUSE... /J -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Mac address
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-01-10 at 13:47 +0100, Jan Karjalainen wrote: How can I make a persistent change of my nic´s mac address, so it keeps the new value after a reboot? AFAIK, mac addresses are persistent, they don't change on reboots. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFpOk8tTMYHG2NR9URAi4WAKCUeqBM+5NgjSDnObY+WLvxibCl4gCdF6Z5 WHQvdFewXcyyPBPsCenukLk= =WQI0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- So if I run ifconfig eth0 down hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 eth0 up it remembers this after a reboot? Won´t work on my machine (openSUSE 10.2)... /JK -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Mac address
Lennart Börjeson wrote: onsdag 10 januari 2007 14:36 skrev Jan Karjalainen: Carlos E. R. wrote: AFAIK, mac addresses are persistent, they don't change on reboots. So if I run ifconfig eth0 down hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 eth0 up it remembers this after a reboot? Won´t work on my machine (openSUSE 10.2)... No, it means they never change at all... :-) As some other poster noted, it is by no means sure that your particular interface can change its mac address at all. By design, mac addresses are intended to by fixed, unique, and permanent. Some cards have the ability to change its mac address or to accept a second, soft, mac address settable at run-time. YMMV. Just to make it clear: my nic supports the changing of mac address. Running ifconfig eth0 down hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 eth0 up manually does work. As it reverts to the hard coded mac address after a reboot, I have to do this every time. So I´m looking for a setting somewhere where I can set the mac address to whatever I want during boot. /JK -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Mac address
Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 14:56 +0100, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Lennart Börjeson wrote: onsdag 10 januari 2007 14:36 skrev Jan Karjalainen: Carlos E. R. wrote: AFAIK, mac addresses are persistent, they don't change on reboots. So if I run ifconfig eth0 down hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 eth0 up it remembers this after a reboot? Won´t work on my machine (openSUSE 10.2)... No, it means they never change at all... :-) As some other poster noted, it is by no means sure that your particular interface can change its mac address at all. By design, mac addresses are intended to by fixed, unique, and permanent. Some cards have the ability to change its mac address or to accept a second, soft, mac address settable at run-time. YMMV. Just to make it clear: my nic supports the changing of mac address. Running ifconfig eth0 down hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 eth0 up manually does work. This does _not_ change the embedded MAC address as it _cannot_ be permanently changed. This is so there never is a duplicate on the WWW. What you are doing is masquerading the address during your boot session. Yeah, yeah, whatever... I don´t care if it´s called masquerading or painting or pooping, I just want to automatically change the mac address during boot! /JK -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Anders Norrbring wrote: ByteEnable wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Are you possibly running this in a VMware virtual machine? If you are, add 'clock=pit' into your grub boot parameters. It's a known VMware issue. I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... That's silly. Just run the daemon, that's what its for. man ntpd Silly is that if I let ntp run by itself, the clock will be off by hours after only one day... -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Sandy Drobic wrote: Jan Karjalainen wrote: I think you are confusing the command line ntp with the always running and always correcting ntpd. You have to configure ntpd by adding server lines in /etc/ntp.conf but once you do that if your clock is close at boot time it will keep it in sync forever. But perhaps the bets solution is to find out why your clock runs that fast. I have the ntp daemon configured with a working server, and it produces no error logs. It´s just that the clock is really running way too fast for the ntp daemon to work. If I let the ntp daemon run as it is supposed to, the clock will be off by hours after one day. Adding rcntp restart every 10 minutes to crontab helps, but does not solve the problem with the fast clock. It only helps because the daemon will set the time at start. You might as well execute ntpdate in a cronjob. Is this an installation running within a VM? I have the same phenomenon with one of my vmware installations. xntpd doesn't work on that system either. Sandy No, it´s not a VM. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.2 install woes
I'm in the process of installing 10.2 on one of my computers, and have one thing to object on. When I selected to add installation sources (inst-source and add-on), I wasn't expecting to being forced to wait for over an hour for it to create the sources. This kind of ruins the whole experience... /JK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Rebuild kernel?
Bruce Ferrell wrote: I know this has been written up before but I can't find it. Can someone point me to a Suse Kernel building howto? I'm trying to build cipe for a current kernel and it keeps telling me the sources aren't setup right. http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_suse -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Backspace won't work in Firefox
Recently the backspace button won't work in Firefox 2, it works in Konqueror and Opera... Where can I change the setting? /JK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error
Where can I find the latest version of makeSUSEdvd? SourceForge has version 0.29 (2005-11-19)... /Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] makeSUSEdvd script not working
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Jan Karjalainen schrieb: This is weird, I get an error when mounting the iso: mount: could not find any device /dev/loop# And exactly that is your error. This has nothing to do with the .iso files or anything else. If your output of the floowing commands is different, you know what's wrong. # ls -ld /sys/block/loop* drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop3 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop5 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop6 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Feb 20 21:51 /sys/block/loop7 # ls -l /dev/loop* brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 0 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop0 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 1 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop1 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 2 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop2 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 3 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop3 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 4 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop4 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 5 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop5 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 6 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop6 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 7 Mar 19 2005 /dev/loop7 Regards, Carl-Daniel Yeah, I solved it by doing modprobe loop. Dunno why it wasn´t loaded, it´s been working before... /Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] makeSUSEdvd script not working
I get this error on all the discs when I run makeSUSEdvd on the Beta 4 discs: SUSE-Linux-10.1-beta4-x86_64-CD1.iso is not a SUSE CD. What´s wrong? /Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] makeSUSEdvd script not working
_ From: houghi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:10:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [opensuse] makeSUSEdvd script not working On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 12:39:30PM +0100, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I get this error on all the discs when I run makeSUSEdvd on the Beta 4 discs: SUSE-Linux-10.1-beta4-x86_64-CD1.iso is not a SUSE CD. What´s wrong? Perhaps an incorrect download. I downloaded SUSE-Linux-10.1-beta4-x86_64-CD1.iso and it worked. What version are you running (makeSUSEdvd -v) The latest version is 0.22 What the test does and what you can do yourself manually to see what you get is: mount the iso: sudo mount -o loop SUSE-Linux-10.1-beta4-x86_64-CD1.iso /mnt get to see if there is anything saying SUSE in the file content grep SUSE /mnt/content If there is something, then it is a SUSE iso. If not, then it is not. Very easy to fool, I know. The do something or umount it sudo umount /mnt houghi This is weird, I get an error when mounting the iso: mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#
Re: [opensuse] makeSUSEdvd script not working
houghi wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 02:33:53PM +0100, Jan Karjalainen wrote: This is weird, I get an error when mounting the iso: mount: could not find any device /dev/loop# Then there is where you must look for the error. Do an MD5SUM and see if the data is correct. Can you mount other iso's? houghi Doesn´t seem to work on any iso - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Beta 4 release status
What's the status on Beta 4? Is it going to be released today? /Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 Beta Installation Trouble and experience
SOTL wrote: Hi All A little off target but this may add a little clarity. Playing around with different distributions I installed Asianux on one of my test boxes the other day. Now I will not say anything bad about program content it appeared to be excellent for a 2 disk distribution or screen graphics background et.; they also appeared to be excellent. Whit I will comment on [and I repeated the installation because I thought I made a mistake] is that there was no home user defined. After installation I had to log in as root. Apparently this is how quite a few are running the distribution. I was able to ascertain that there was a user not defined by me. I was not able to log into this user not knowing the password. I then searched very diligently through all the GUI based programs for one that allowed me as root to add / substract users. I could find none. Since my two test installations were a week apart and I spent a couple of hours on this each time I am fairly sure that I got a good surface feeling for the distribution and my response is: Thanks but no thanks. I know the issues I mentioned above are trivial to fix. My question is why? Why should I pass my time fixing a distribution that provides so little security that everything is dumped into one partition and one has to log in as root? Thus I currently have 2 nice disks containing Asianux that would be useful as sleets, Frisbees, mirror reflectors et but not as devices to retain programs in MY computer. SOTL And why exactly are you ranting about this on this list? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Do we need an official web forum?
I think there is a need for a forum, for a couple of reasons: - The ability to easily search for answers. When you get a reply stating this was discussed in December, search the list, a newbie really doesn´t have a clue how or where to search. Compare this to the search funtionality of a forum. - Dial-up connections aren´t fast enough for downloading a couple of hundred mails each day, many of which you don´t have any interest in. - Familiarity. Almost everyone has visited a forum, and even participated in discussions on one. Just my $0.02 Kind regards, Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] apt-rpm in Factory / SUSE Linux 10.1 (was: The goodness
On Friday 13 January 2006 11:36, Warren Pace wrote: From: Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/13 Fri AM 05:08:35 EST To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] apt-rpm in Factory / SUSE Linux 10.1 (was: The goodness of Smart) On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, James Ogley wrote: To assist SMART to actually get there, I'd also like to collect a list of missing features and things that need to be fixed until SMART can do the job apt does for you guys. Any volunteers to create a wiki page and file bugs (preferably at http://tracker.labix.org/)? Is the plan to include third party channels, and if so would you like the maintainers to send you channel information files for /etc/smart/channels? No, this is rather problematic from a legal perspective. Where do I find the installation source for SMART? I'll be happy to help in the testing. Guru's web site has the smart package: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=System/smart/ /Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SUSE, openSUSE, GM, Retail, Eval, OSS and other naming conventions.
On Monday 10 October 2005 09:54, Martin Sommer wrote: On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Walt Frampus wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 05:36 +0200, houghi wrote: Oh, please do, because people already talk about wther they should use SUSE or openSUSE and they talk as if openSUSE is the distro, not just the comunity. And that is also how I personally feel it. I am part of a comunity that drives the openSUSE distro with a website openSUSE.org I think Novell should have just released the OSS version at this time and if you wanted the full version, buy it. I am running the EVAL version until my boxed set is delivered. (but if the EVAL version is the same , why bother buying it..) If it truly was an Eval version, it should have a time limit on it. People are confused about openSUSE and Suse Linux. Maybe only the purchased version should be called Suse Linux and the downloaded version OpenSUSE. Again, it is an eval version because it has 3.5 GB software whereas the full retail version has about 6 GB software for each architecture (yes, 2*6 is 8.5 because of noarch packages). And no, no SUSE Linux version will ever contain any time bomb, neither the whole version nor single packages in it! Martin Maybe naming it LE, which could stand for Limited Edition or Light Edition? /Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Is the reboot procedure different from 9.3?
I have this problem when I reboot my Toshiba Satellite 2450-S402 laptop. It's a dual-boot system, and when I reboot from Suse 10.0 RC1 to WinXP, it really doesn't reboot in a sense it did before. During this reboot the computer doesn't power down as it used to do before. When I reboot from XP to 10.0 RC1 it reboots normally, that is I can see th= e power LED briefly turn off and then it powers up again. The problem with all this is that my Netgear GA511 pcmcia card doesn't work properly if the reboot hasn't powered off the computer. Also booting into XP halts at the end of the Loading Windows XP... sequence, when reboot is done the 10.0 RC1 way. A power off fixes the problem, or if I intercept the reboot by powering off the computer (which is a pain in the neck to do, as I have the laptop docke= d and thus closed.) The reboot procedure worked fine with SUSE 9.3 Professional. So, to recap: Power ON -- SUSE 10.0 RC1 =3D SUCCESS Power ON -- Windows XP =3D SUCCESS SUSE10.0 RC1 -- reboot --- SUSE10.0 RC1 =3D FAILURE SUSE10.0 RC1 -- reboot --- Windows XP =3D FAILURE Windows XP -- reboot -- Windows XP =3D SUCCESS Windows XP -- reboot -- SUSE10.0 RC1 =3D=3D SUCCESS Can anyone give me a pointer to what's happening here? Kind regards, Jan K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
