Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Hans Witvliet wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:04 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
 What do you think ? 
 I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
 FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
 then on #suse (IRC).
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 
 IPv6 

We have these features available for IPv6 in /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2:

FW_IPv6 (no,drop,reject)
# What to do with IPv6 Packets?

FW_IPv6_REJECT_OUTGOING (yes,no)
# Reject outgoing IPv6 Packets?

These rules should also work for IPv6 if state matching is available:
FW_SERVICES_*_TCP
FW_SERVICES_*_UDP
FW_SERVICES_*_IP
FW_SERVICES_*_RPC

But SuSEfirewall2 on my 10.2 says:
Warning: ip6tables does not support state matching. Extended IPv6
support disabled.

Whence it follows that there are two issues:
1.) Enable state matching in ip6tables (maybe simple)
2.) Add handling for those two variables into yast2-firewall UI

L.



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Jiri Srain
Hi!

On Monday 27 November 2006 23:16, Hans Witvliet wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 10:26 +0100, Jiri Srain wrote:
  Hi!
 
  On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   Hi all !
  
   As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
   would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
   that I would like to see:
  
   1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
   2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
   3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
   4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
   5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop
   Effects)
 
  Before you start writing any new module, please, get in touch with
  someone from the YaST team in SUSE in order to check that the module is
  notbeing developed by us and won't appear in next Alpha snapshot ;-)
  AFAIK FTP server module is already being developed (but don't know the
  state of it ATM). SSH server module is being used as example in the YaST
  tutorial.

 Any plans for:
 -NIC-bonding?

I hope that this one will appear in one of the first Alpha snapshots of 10.3.

 -VLAN-config

This one is on our radar as well, however, at the moment I cannot tell when it 
will be ready.

 -Asterisk configuration (zaptel, chan-capi, chan-iax )

Here I don't know about any specific plans.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
  Lukas Ocilka wrote:
  Pascal Bleser wrote:
  What do you think ? 
  I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
  FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
  then on #suse (IRC).
  I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
  it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
  
  Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
  patch then :) ;)
  
  http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00262.html
 
 I see, this one :)
 
 It's a planned feature for 10.3 (if possible).
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00278.html
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00265.html

See also /usr/share/SuSEfirewall2/services/

cu
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Hans Witvliet wrote:
  On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:04 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
  Pascal Bleser wrote:
  What do you think ? 
  I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
  FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
  then on #suse (IRC).
  I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
  it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
 
  
  IPv6 
 
 We have these features available for IPv6 in /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2:
 
 FW_IPv6 (no,drop,reject)
 # What to do with IPv6 Packets?
 
 FW_IPv6_REJECT_OUTGOING (yes,no)
 # Reject outgoing IPv6 Packets?

I don't think those options should be exposed in the UI. They are just
workarounds for kernels that lack v6 connection tracking

 These rules should also work for IPv6 if state matching is available:
 FW_SERVICES_*_TCP
 FW_SERVICES_*_UDP
 FW_SERVICES_*_IP
 FW_SERVICES_*_RPC
 
 But SuSEfirewall2 on my 10.2 says:
 Warning: ip6tables does not support state matching. Extended IPv6
 support disabled.
 
 Whence it follows that there are two issues:
 1.) Enable state matching in ip6tables (maybe simple)

The new and AFAIK still experimental connection tracking code has to
be enabled in the kernel. SuSEfirewall2 itself supports most of it's
featues also with IPv6. It's untested since SLES9 though due to lack
of kernel support.

cu
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 25. 2006 19:35]:

 Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
 ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
 poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
 World in YCP.

Please look at http://en.opensuse.org/Code10_YaST_Development and follow
the provided links.

We're happy to enhance the documentation if you have specific questions.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Jiri Srain
Hi!

On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !

 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:

 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
 4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
 5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)

Before you start writing any new module, please, get in touch with someone 
from the YaST team in SUSE in order to check that the module is notbeing 
developed by us and won't appear in next Alpha snapshot ;-) AFAIK FTP server 
module is already being developed (but don't know the state of it ATM). SSH 
server module is being used as example in the YaST tutorial.

 Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.
 Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
 ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
 poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
 World in YCP.

The tutorial at forge (see 
http://forgeftp.novell.com/yast/doc/SLES10/tutorials/index.html) might be 
good starting poing.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Christian Boltz schreef:
 Hello,

 Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 21:18 schrieb Robby (M9.):
 gpgkeys: key 5F9FD7E57E8BA438 not found on keyserver

Something wrong about the key, the one i sent you, is the one i use
(look at the header)

 BTW: Your GPG key still isn't available on the keyservers :-(

 I can not believe, that i am the only one, who thinks, that the
 available partitioners do not work.
 If you do not use LVM, you can not use it to make changes
 afterwards..

 Huh?

Exactly my reaktion, and than: shit.


 If you use LVM, you can not make changes afterwards...

 Huh? (I don't use LVM, but I would be _very_ surprised if this was
 true.)

Maybe try it, and see.

 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions,

 This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.

This is not what i mean:
suppose you have 8 partitions: /boot, /root, /usr, /opt, /var, swap,
/home and /shared.
Now you want to make changes to 5 of them.
You will have to trow them away, to recreate them, there is, as far as i
know, no other way.
Simply because if you want more room in one, it goes by the cost  of the
next one.
How will you be able to make these changes and keep 3 of them, without
counting the cylinders?
I do not know...

 simply because you can not see what you are doing.

 Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or
 upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)

If you can throw everything away, certainly, there is no problem at all..
If you do not want to throw away your settings, and all the files you
want to keep, you will have to save them somewhere else, or burn them.

There is also no problem, if you want to keep your partitions the same
size, and only want to format them.
This is my workaround.

I do not know if you have ever used Partition Magic?
That would make my story more clear...
Sometimes, after experimenting with sizes, you learn, that sizes better
can be adjusted, to get the room, wherever it is realy needed.
Especialy when the OS builds realy change, it is nessesary to adjust the
partitions to the correct size.
(the why is that the machine is much faster if the systems searchtime is
shortened. (You can keep drivers and nessesary .exes (windows)And is
much easier to clean. I noticed that after using no partitions.)
Not to use seperate partitions is out of the question, for me

Partition Magic, from powerquest, is also thirthparty sw for windows.
Can be used to: resize, move, delete, create partitions, on a visual basis.
It counts the transactions, and processes them before starting up,
when nothing is in use.
It moves the data, resizes and renames, and that is it.
Never had a problem with it.

This can be done in SuSE now also, as we now can boot into the wanted
OS, before shutting down.

 You can only make partitions smaller, not move or
 resize a usable way.. it is not praktical to count all the cylinders,
 because than a simple transaction takes few hours, you have to
 calculate everything


 Again: I don't really understand your problems, please provide more
 details and/or screenshots.

The screenshots, will follow, if you do not understand what i mean.


 Everybody who uses them, knows that it is true what i am saying,
 because it is.

 Never say that you are everybody ;-)

I did not say that i am everybody..read the sentense again.



 Regards,

 Christian Boltz
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 15:23 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

   Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been
   needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it
   only 15M, it's your own fault. ;)
  
  That's not completely true, they are needed with older hardware.
 
 I doubt that. My oldest hardware is 97/98 and it doesn't need it. Those
 boxes (of mine) have 64MB RAM max, SUSE doesn't even install on that any
 more since 10.0(?).
 
 Question: how many systems out there which have 128MB RAM need a
 separate /boot partition?

The problem is not RAM, but the bios. The bios services are used at first 
by lilo/boot to read the initial files, and older/buggy bioses simply can 
not access HD beyond a certain point.

My machine, circa 2001, has some problems with big disks.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Robby (M9.) wrote:
 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions,
 This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.
 
 This is not what i mean:
 suppose you have 8 partitions: /boot, /root, /usr, /opt, /var, swap,
 /home and /shared.
 Now you want to make changes to 5 of them.
 You will have to trow them away, to recreate them, there is, as far as i
 know, no other way.
 Simply because if you want more room in one, it goes by the cost  of the
 next one.
 How will you be able to make these changes and keep 3 of them, without
 counting the cylinders?
 I do not know...

`yast2 disk`
There is a [Resize] button that you can use for resizing primary or
extended partitions or LVM. Yes, there is a problem that these
partitions must _not_ be mounted when you want to resize them.

You can resize the partition also during installation but, I'm afraid,
that not during update.

 Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or
 upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)
 
 If you can throw everything away, certainly, there is no problem at all..
 If you do not want to throw away your settings, and all the files you
 want to keep, you will have to save them somewhere else, or burn them.
 
 There is also no problem, if you want to keep your partitions the same
 size, and only want to format them.
 This is my workaround.
 
 I do not know if you have ever used Partition Magic?
 That would make my story more clear...
 Sometimes, after experimenting with sizes, you learn, that sizes better
 can be adjusted, to get the room, wherever it is realy needed.
 Especialy when the OS builds realy change, it is nessesary to adjust the
 partitions to the correct size.
 (the why is that the machine is much faster if the systems searchtime is
 shortened. (You can keep drivers and nessesary .exes (windows)And is
 much easier to clean. I noticed that after using no partitions.)
 Not to use seperate partitions is out of the question, for me
 
 Partition Magic, from powerquest, is also thirthparty sw for windows.
 Can be used to: resize, move, delete, create partitions, on a visual basis.
 It counts the transactions, and processes them before starting up,
 when nothing is in use.
 It moves the data, resizes and renames, and that is it.
 Never had a problem with it.

Partition Magic sometimes needs to be run before the system is loaded
but changes needs to be set in a running system, that's also not so
nice. Nevertheless it has quite nice UI, that's true.

AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
(possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.

This could also solve our problem installing openSUSE on computers with
little memory because one could prepare a swap partition before running
the installation and Linuxrc (installation) offers the possibility to
enable swap partition by appending a parameter to command-line.

Bye
Lukas



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Thanks to all respones, especially to: Jiri Srain and Klaus Kaempf.

I will look at this Yast tutorial later. Haven't saw it before.

Also I ask people who go offtopic - such as discussions about
*PartitionMagic* to start that discussion on a different mailing-list.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !
 
 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:
...
 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
...
 Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.
 Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
 ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
 poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
 World in YCP.

3. SSH Server
=

There already IS such module for configuring SSH server:
http://software.opensuse.org/download/YaST:/tools/SUSE_Factory/noarch/
yast2-sshd-0.0.1-1.41.noarch.rpm

It has been developed in the YaST-Tools project:
http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/YaST-Tools

And developing YaST modules is a piece of cake :)
http://forgeftp.novell.com//yast/doc/SLES10/tutorials/t1.html
This tutorial describes how the yast2-sshd module has been developed.

Enjoy :)!
Lukas



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RE: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Marc Collin

 
 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !
 
  As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
  would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
  that I would like to see:
 ...
  3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
 ...
  Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.

don't talk for everybody

the guy who really need to setup a server and don't find a gui to do it,
will use the command line

  Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
  ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
  poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond
Hello
  World in YCP.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Pascal Bleser wrote:
 What do you think ? 
 
 I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
 FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
 then on #suse (IRC).

I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
patch then :) ;)

Thanks
Lukas



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko

I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
patch then :) ;)



Yes - I would like to have ability to do *traffic limiting* - IP
tables already supports that and I think it could be done at the GUI
level (in Yast). the only problem is that iptables limits IP packets
(they are variable size), and I would like to be able to limit with
bytes-per-second criteria. Is that doable?

I would like to be able to configure lmits for both upload  download
rates. Also I think that Firewall module is the correct place to do
that.

This is needed when working in LAN environment, with single shared
Internet connection,  so that you won't steal all the Internet
bandwidth from your parents/friends/colleagues. (At Home/LAN
party/Work). Unfortunately, not all Routers can do that.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Stan Glasoe
On Monday November 27 2006 11:04 am, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

 Thanks
 Lukas

Ability to read/write Firewall Builder files?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Jordi Bruguera i Cortada
El dl 27 de 11 del 2006 a les 19:34 +0200, en/na Alexey Eremenko va
escriure:

 Yes - I would like to have ability to do *traffic limiting* - IP
 tables already supports that and I think it could be done at the GUI
 level (in Yast). the only problem is that iptables limits IP packets
 (they are variable size), and I would like to be able to limit with
 bytes-per-second criteria. Is that doable?

Sure, visit:

http://lartc.org


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Robby (M9.) wrote:
 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions,
 This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.
 
 This is not what i mean:
 suppose you have 8 partitions: /boot, /root, /usr, /opt, /var, swap,
 /home and /shared.
 Now you want to make changes to 5 of them.
 You will have to trow them away, to recreate them, there is, as far as i
 know, no other way.
 Simply because if you want more room in one, it goes by the cost  of the
 next one.
 How will you be able to make these changes and keep 3 of them, without
 counting the cylinders?
 I do not know...

 `yast2 disk`
 There is a [Resize] button that you can use for resizing primary or
 extended partitions or LVM. Yes, there is a problem that these
 partitions must _not_ be mounted when you want to resize them.

 You can resize the partition also during installation but, I'm afraid,
 that not during update.

 Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or
 upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)
 
 If you can throw everything away, certainly, there is no problem at all..
 If you do not want to throw away your settings, and all the files you
 want to keep, you will have to save them somewhere else, or burn them.
 
 There is also no problem, if you want to keep your partitions the same
 size, and only want to format them.
 This is my workaround.
 
 I do not know if you have ever used Partition Magic?
 That would make my story more clear...
 Sometimes, after experimenting with sizes, you learn, that sizes better
 can be adjusted, to get the room, wherever it is realy needed.
 Especialy when the OS builds realy change, it is nessesary to adjust the
 partitions to the correct size.
 (the why is that the machine is much faster if the systems searchtime is
 shortened. (You can keep drivers and nessesary .exes (windows)And is
 much easier to clean. I noticed that after using no partitions.)
 Not to use seperate partitions is out of the question, for me
 
 Partition Magic, from powerquest, is also thirthparty sw for windows.
 Can be used to: resize, move, delete, create partitions, on a visual basis.
 It counts the transactions, and processes them before starting up,
 when nothing is in use.
 It moves the data, resizes and renames, and that is it.
 Never had a problem with it.

 Partition Magic sometimes needs to be run before the system is loaded
 but changes needs to be set in a running system, that's also not so
 nice. Nevertheless it has quite nice UI, that's true.

 AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
 (possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
 modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.

 This could also solve our problem installing openSUSE on computers with
 little memory because one could prepare a swap partition before running
 the installation and Linuxrc (installation) offers the possibility to
 enable swap partition by appending a parameter to command-line.

The LiveCD should be able to do this - but that one needs to much
memory for these systems.  Something to look at for the future...

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Carlos E. R. schreef:
 
 The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 15:23 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 
 Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been
 needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it
 only 15M, it's your own fault. ;)
 That's not completely true, they are needed with older hardware.
 I doubt that. My oldest hardware is 97/98 and it doesn't need it. Those
 boxes (of mine) have 64MB RAM max, SUSE doesn't even install on that any
 more since 10.0(?).
 
 Question: how many systems out there which have 128MB RAM need a
 separate /boot partition?
 
 The problem is not RAM, but the bios. The bios services are used at first 
 by lilo/boot to read the initial files, and older/buggy bioses simply can 
 not access HD beyond a certain point.
 
 My machine, circa 2001, has some problems with big disks.

The problem started with 10.2.
All the time, from 9 until 10.1, you could use 15M, and two kernels
would easily fit in that partition..
That way i could boot the kernel i wanted, to test it with the hardware..
(The early 10. and 10.1 kernels failed to start-up the powermanager,
which resulted in a constantly noisy rotating fan.)

Now, in 10.2, these sizes are changed, that is the reason that now only
one-and-a-half kernel fits in 15M, now there is only 38% free, to be
correct. 5.9M free, from 15.4M, and symsets and symtypes are added..
We have: initrd:3M, vmlinuz:1,5M vmlinux.gz:2M. Ofcourse grub resides in
/boot.

It is not allways *nessesary* to have a seperate /boot partition, but
works more *clean*

in fact, i am only one cilinder short.
(i am only saying that it would be nice to be able to finetune a nice os
as SuSE is, without taking too much time and risk, that is all...)

Have a nice time ;)

M9.
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread B . Weber
 AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
 (possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
 modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.

If I understand you correctly we already have that. In the repair mode
of installation, select other here
(http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?release=637slide=5) then
select repair installed system then select expert tools this gives
access to the Bootloader and Partitioner modules, and I think others, but
those are the two which it's really useful to use in this way. It lets you
for example re-write grub after windows clobbers it, or to resize your /
partition etc.

_
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2006-11-27 Thread Robby (M9.)
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 AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
 (possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
 modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.
 
 If I understand you correctly we already have that. In the repair mode
 of installation, select other here
 (http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?release=637slide=5) then
 select repair installed system then select expert tools this gives
 access to the Bootloader and Partitioner modules, and I think others, but
 those are the two which it's really useful to use in this way. It lets you
 for example re-write grub after windows clobbers it, or to resize your /
 partition etc.

Yes it looks that way, until you try and use the partitioner for real,
than you notice what fails...
But the most part is allright, just when the *real* job has to be done,
 the overvieuw is missing, that is all...

M9.
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

 
 Yes - I would like to have ability to do *traffic limiting* - IP
 tables already supports that and I think it could be done at the GUI
 level (in Yast). the only problem is that iptables limits IP packets
 (they are variable size), and I would like to be able to limit with
 bytes-per-second criteria. Is that doable?
 
 I would like to be able to configure lmits for both upload  download
 rates. Also I think that Firewall module is the correct place to do
 that.
 
 This is needed when working in LAN environment, with single shared
 Internet connection,  so that you won't steal all the Internet
 bandwidth from your parents/friends/colleagues. (At Home/LAN
 party/Work). Unfortunately, not all Routers can do that.

YaST Firewall is only an UI for configuring
/etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2. All features, that are configurable via
that sysconfig file could be configured in YaST (not all features are
supported now, of course).

The only traffic limiting can be set up in FW_HTB_TUNE_DEV variable. It
configures upstream using HTB (Hierarchical Token Bucket),
http://www.lartc.org, and it uses unit kbit/s.

Adding lnussel as a developer/maintainer of SuSEfirewall2.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Stan Glasoe wrote:
 On Monday November 27 2006 11:04 am, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

 Thanks
 Lukas
 
 Ability to read/write Firewall Builder files?

Nice idea, but I'm afraid, this would be too much. On the other hand,
some kind of import might be possible, SuSEfirewall2 also supports more
detailed configuration of rules, e.g:

FW_SERVICES_ACCEPT_EXT, _INT, _DMZ(source network, protocol, source
port, destination port)
FW_FORWARD (source network, destination network, protocol, port, flags)
or even FW_CUSTOMRULES (too expert)

See /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
 What do you think ? 
 I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
 FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
 then on #suse (IRC).
 
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
 
 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00262.html

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:04 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
  What do you think ? 
  
  I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
  FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
  then on #suse (IRC).
 
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
 

IPv6 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 10:26 +0100, Jiri Srain wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
  Hi all !
 
  As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
  would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
  that I would like to see:
 
  1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
  2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
  3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
  4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
  5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)
 
 Before you start writing any new module, please, get in touch with someone 
 from the YaST team in SUSE in order to check that the module is notbeing 
 developed by us and won't appear in next Alpha snapshot ;-) AFAIK FTP server 
 module is already being developed (but don't know the state of it ATM). SSH 
 server module is being used as example in the YaST tutorial.
 

Any plans for:
-NIC-bonding?
-VLAN-config
-Asterisk configuration (zaptel, chan-capi, chan-iax )


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-26 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Carlos E. R. schreef:
 
 The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 20:15 +0100, Robby (M9.) wrote:
 
 This is needed indeed, the available partioning features are 'antique',
 and not realy usable during use, only when all is 'clean'.
 
 I have used many times the Yast partitioning module on a live system.

You are right, i will do it this way to.
But I find it is a workaround...
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 21:18 schrieb Robby (M9.):
 gpgkeys: key 5F9FD7E57E8BA438 not found on keyserver

BTW: Your GPG key still isn't available on the keyservers :-(

 I can not believe, that i am the only one, who thinks, that the
 available partitioners do not work.
 If you do not use LVM, you can not use it to make changes
 afterwards.. 

Huh?

 If you use LVM, you can not make changes afterwards... 

Huh? (I don't use LVM, but I would be _very_ surprised if this was 
true.)

 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions, 

This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.

 simply because you can not see what you are doing.

Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or 
upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)

 You can only make partitions smaller, not move or 
 resize a usable way.. it is not praktical to count all the cylinders,
 because than a simple transaction takes few hours, you have to
 calculate everything

Again: I don't really understand your problems, please provide more 
details and/or screenshots.

 Everybody who uses them, knows that it is true what i am saying,
 because it is.

Never say that you are everybody ;-)


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[opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Hi all !

As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
that I would like to see:

1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)

Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.
Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
World in YCP.

I would like you to recall that Yast has no been updated since SUSE
9.x times (except maybe AppArmor) and people saw no new modules since
then. I think it is time to revise what we have.

What do you think ?

-Big thanks in advance
-Alexey Eremenko.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Richard Bos
Op zaterdag 25 november 2006 19:35, schreef Alexey Eremenko:
 What do you think ?

open bug reports (type = enhancement) and see what you get (let voting 
decide).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 19:35 schrieb Alexey Eremenko:
 Hi all !

 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:
[...]
 I would like you to recall that Yast has no been updated since SUSE
 9.x times (except maybe AppArmor) and people saw no new modules since
 then. I think it is time to revise what we have.

Not seen the nice sudo module in 10.2?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:
 
 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)

What would be addresses in the swap manager that is not already done
in the partitioner module ? Swap files ?
You can already manage swap partitions in the partitioner.

 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
 4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
 5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)
 
 Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.
 Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
 ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
 poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
 World in YCP.

Stefan Hundhammer held a 1,5 hour tutorial about writing yast modules at
FOSDEM 2006.

The full video recording of the tutorial is available here:
- - small (300 MB):
http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2006-openSUSE-10-Writing_YaST_Modules-2006-02-26-video_small.ogg
- - large (2 GB):
http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2006-openSUSE-10-Writing_YaST_Modules-2006-02-26-video_full.ogg

Sources used in the tutorial:
http://www.suse.de/~sh/fosdem-2006/ycp-tutorial/

 What do you think ? 

I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
then on #suse (IRC).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Alexey Eremenko schreef:
 Hi all !

 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:

 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)

This is needed indeed, the available partioning features are 'antique',
and not realy usable during use, only when all is 'clean'.

I have a /boot partition 2 cyl big: 15M.
With the new kernels it is too small, so when updating a kernel, i have
to throw the 'oldon' away, before the 'new one can get installed...
That means that during an upgrade, when i am not present, the system
waits, because of the 'problem': it kan not install the kernel

There is no way to enlarge this partition, or move or split or whatever
partition, because it is nessesary...

Only way is throw everything away, or move it across a network, burn it
on a dvd...

I think, with all the changes, ext2, ext3, reiser, and all the
consequenses, that it is time, for linux, to have a real partitioner,
like Parttion Magic, which batches the needed changes, and completes the
transaction before booting the system.
We must also be able to move, split and delete or create partitions, as
we see fit..

I am not going to sacrifice my'/home' for one cylinder...

How about others?
Are there no others who would want to realy controle the volumes?

M9.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Mauro Parra

Hello,

On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think, with all the changes, ext2, ext3, reiser, and all the
consequenses, that it is time, for linux, to have a real partitioner,
like Parttion Magic, which batches the needed changes, and completes the
transaction before booting the system.



Have you tried QTParted? It's really nice, and works exactly in the same way
than Partition Magic: Boot with their own boot disk, do the changes and
restart.

Would be nice to have an option in the opensuse installer disk to work as
QTParted/Parted, just like another boot option (along with memtest, safe
mode, etc).

Best Regards,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Mauro Parra schreef:
 Hello,
 
 On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think, with all the changes, ext2, ext3, reiser, and all the
 consequenses, that it is time, for linux, to have a real partitioner,
 like Parttion Magic, which batches the needed changes, and completes the
 transaction before booting the system.
 
 
 Have you tried QTParted? It's really nice, and works exactly in the same
 way
 than Partition Magic: Boot with their own boot disk, do the changes and
 restart.

As a matter of fact, i did, with kanotix, the debian installed knoppix,
Is it available for suse?
 
 Would be nice to have an option in the opensuse installer disk to work as
 QTParted/Parted, just like another boot option (along with memtest, safe
 mode, etc).

Yes it would...
 
 Best Regards,
 M
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Alexey Eremenko

FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and

then on #suse (IRC).

I have actually submitted a request more than a year ago. Hope someone
will do it by 10.3. I would be very thankful for that person.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=118041

I have reopened  updated the bug to 10.3 timeline.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Mauro Parra

Hallo,

On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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As a matter of fact, i did, with kanotix, the debian installed knoppix,
Is it available for suse?



The program is lying around, a small footprint livecd could be done if you
want. But I don't see any reason to do it, since there is already working
alternatives.

In case of interest, much of the distro-cutted-down work is done in the
microSuSE universe (which also targets i386):

http://en.opensuse.org/MicroSUSE

as another option there was a suse live evalution, I don't know if it's
still uptodate, but could be easily updated and hacked to suit this need.

For more general advice on this, there is an article in lj about how to do
your own livecd:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7233

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 I have a /boot partition 2 cyl big: 15M.
 With the new kernels it is too small, so when updating a kernel, i have
 to throw the 'oldon' away, before the 'new one can get installed...

Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been
needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it
only 15M, it's your own fault. ;)

 Only way is throw everything away, or move it across a network, burn it
 on a dvd...

Of course you do this every so often anyway? Well I do.

 Are there no others who would want to realy controle the volumes?

I believe LVM has given you this functionality for many years now.

Beyond yast partitioner I hear qtparted is not too bad, though I'm not
sure whether integrating something like this into yast is top priority.

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:
 
 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)

Swap partitions have to be handled by the partitioner. From (old)
memory, swap files are inefficient and are best avoided. Just because
the competition can't do better doesn't mean Linux must do it too. They
can also be created with 2 easy commands. Ok, 3: dd, sync, swapon.

 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)

What I would really like is some quick and easy way to create multiple
document roots with vsftpd, even if it means cranking up multiple
instances of it.

 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)

Which configuration variables in /etc/ssh/sshd_config would you like
yast to tweak?

I do think it's time SUSE disabled protocol 1 by default.

 5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)
 
 Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.

Sorry, but 3D desktop gimmicks with high geek factor but zero practical
use are not really *very* needed IMHO, but I do observe that eye candy
seems to sell well with some.

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:

 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
 
 Swap partitions have to be handled by the partitioner. From (old)
 memory, swap files are inefficient and are best avoided. Just because
 the competition can't do better doesn't mean Linux must do it too. They
 can also be created with 2 easy commands. Ok, 3: dd, sync, swapon.
 
 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
 
 What I would really like is some quick and easy way to create multiple
 document roots with vsftpd, even if it means cranking up multiple
 instances of it.

You can't.
And you can't do name-based virtual hosting with FTP, only IP based
virtual hosting.
If you can host different IPs, it's quite easy to do by running vsftpd
through xinetd (and a different config file for each + binding to each
IP using xinetd).

 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
 
 Which configuration variables in /etc/ssh/sshd_config would you like
 yast to tweak?
 
 I do think it's time SUSE disabled protocol 1 by default.
 
 5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)

 Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.
 
 Sorry, but 3D desktop gimmicks with high geek factor but zero practical
 use are not really *very* needed IMHO, but I do observe that eye candy
 seems to sell well with some.

+ compiz and beryl already have their own applications for configuration

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Mauro Parra schreef:
 Hallo,
 
 On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 As a matter of fact, i did, with kanotix, the debian installed knoppix,
 Is it available for suse?
 
 
 The program is lying around, a small footprint livecd could be done if you
 want. But I don't see any reason to do it, since there is already working
 alternatives.

Such as?
 
 In case of interest, much of the distro-cutted-down work is done in the
 microSuSE universe (which also targets i386):
 
 http://en.opensuse.org/MicroSUSE
 
 as another option there was a suse live evalution, I don't know if it's
 still uptodate, but could be easily updated and hacked to suit this need.
 
 For more general advice on this, there is an article in lj about how to do
 your own livecd:
 
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7233

Thnx for all the advice, but to remaster a live-cd just to use a
partitioner, is a little overdone..(might be nessesary in the future, if
 there is not going to be added a usefull one..)
I can not believe, that i am the only one, who thinks, that the
available partitioners do not work.
If you do not use LVM, you can not use it to make changes afterwards..
If you use LVM, you can not make changes afterwards...
If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
throw away, and recreate partitions, simply because you can not see what
you are doing.You can only make partitions smaller, not move or resize a
usable way.. it is not praktical to count all the cylinders, because
than a simple transaction takes few hours, you have to calculate
everything
In this time, that would not be nessesary anymore.
I realy mean this.
Everybody who uses them, knows that it is true what i am saying, because
it is.
 
 Best Regards,
 M
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
  What I would really like is some quick and easy way to create multiple
  document roots with vsftpd, even if it means cranking up multiple
  instances of it.

This is a missing functionality in vsftpd in the first place, of course,
but setting up vsftpd is still a *lot* easier + faster than doing the
same with apache.

 You can't.
 And you can't do name-based virtual hosting with FTP, only IP based
 virtual hosting.

Yes I can do. Open your mind ;)

It is easy to run one vfstpd per port, on the same IP address. Which is
about the same as running one per IP address on the same port as far as
virtual hosting (haha) is concerned. My interest isn't in virtual
hosts anyway, but in directory mapping:

  /usr/dir1/- ftp://../dir1/
  /data/suse/   - ftp://../suse/
  /disk/big/- ftp://../big/

It's not so difficult to support this via init.d runlevel script, and
I'm thinking of implementing it.

Alternatively I can arrange my disks to suit vsftpd, which I'm not going
to do, or use mount --bind.

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 What I would really like is some quick and easy way to create multiple
 document roots with vsftpd, even if it means cranking up multiple
 instances of it.
 
 This is a missing functionality in vsftpd in the first place, of course,
 but setting up vsftpd is still a *lot* easier + faster than doing the
 same with apache.

Yes and no.
Alias directives in Apache are pretty easy to set up ;)
(granted, mod_rewrite is voodoo)

 You can't.
 And you can't do name-based virtual hosting with FTP, only IP based
 virtual hosting.
 
 Yes I can do. Open your mind ;)
 
 It is easy to run one vfstpd per port, on the same IP address. Which is
 about the same as running one per IP address on the same port as far as
 virtual hosting (haha) is concerned. My interest isn't in virtual
 hosts anyway, but in directory mapping:

Aaah, ok. Sorry, my bad. I implied vhosting.

Running FTP on non-standard ports isn't a very good idea though - IMHO.

   /usr/dir1/  - ftp://../dir1/
   /data/suse/   - ftp://../suse/
   /disk/big/  - ftp://../big/

Ok. Yeah, that sucks with all FTP daemons except ProFTPd.
AFAICR, ProFTPd has directory mapping configuration directives, pretty
much like Apache's aliases. OTOH, the use of ProFTPd isn't really
encouraged -- vsftpd has a much better security record.
Didn't check pure-ftpd recently.

- From what I've tried to do with it, vsftpd is not very flexible wrt
directory mapping. One base directory for anonymous, period.

 It's not so difficult to support this via init.d runlevel script, and
 I'm thinking of implementing it.

How would you do that with vsftpd ?

 Alternatively I can arrange my disks to suit vsftpd, which I'm not going
 to do, or use mount --bind.

mount --bind is an option (too bad hard links don't work across
partitions, but mount --bind does pretty much the same, even though it's
limited to directories, but that's something everyone can live with, I
guess).

Sorry, I don't understand how you'd want to configure such directory
mappings with vsftpd (and without mount --bind) ... ?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 08:49 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

 Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been
 needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it
 only 15M, it's your own fault. ;)

That's not completely true, they are needed with older hardware.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 20:15 +0100, Robby (M9.) wrote:

 This is needed indeed, the available partioning features are 'antique',
 and not realy usable during use, only when all is 'clean'.

I have used many times the Yast partitioning module on a live system.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
  Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been
  needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it
  only 15M, it's your own fault. ;)
 
 That's not completely true, they are needed with older hardware.

I doubt that. My oldest hardware is 97/98 and it doesn't need it. Those
boxes (of mine) have 64MB RAM max, SUSE doesn't even install on that any
more since 10.0(?).

Question: how many systems out there which have 128MB RAM need a
separate /boot partition?

My answer is very few, if any.

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
  This is a missing functionality in vsftpd in the first place, of course,
  but setting up vsftpd is still a *lot* easier + faster than doing the
  same with apache.
 
 Yes and no.
 Alias directives in Apache are pretty easy to set up ;)

You might find it easy, but vsftpd is still 10x easier. And before you
can put an alias, you have to set up the whole damn lot. Not my choice
for when I just want.

 Running FTP on non-standard ports isn't a very good idea though - IMHO.

Entirely depends on what you want it for. On the LAN anything goes.

  It's not so difficult to support this via init.d runlevel script, and
  I'm thinking of implementing it.
 
 How would you do that with vsftpd ?

One process per port and directory to serve, with editing a file in
/etc/sysconfig/ being the most required to set it going by
init.d/vsftpd. Minimum data required would be ftp root directory,
optional port number, optional config file (default /etc/vsftpd.conf).

 mount --bind is an option (too bad hard links don't work across
 partitions,

You'd have to hardlink a directory! Even if the filesystem supports it
(which do?), mount --bind might be the better option.

Volker

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