RE: [RE]..

2001-04-05 Thread elephantwalker

Take a look at this book, Core Java, Volume II - Advanced Features by Cay S.
Horstmann and Gary Cornell. There is a whole chapter on RMI. This should get
you started.

You might want to check out the www.javasoft.com web site, I believe there
is a tutorial on RMI.

You might also check out the forums page on the javasoft web site, I believe
there is a forum for people who just started studying Java.

Regards,

Elephantwalker

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RE: How to run ORION on different ports

2001-04-05 Thread Van Duong

Delare it in default-web-site.xml file as follow:
web-site host="[ALL]" port="8001" display-name="Default Orion WebSite"

For example:
web-site host="[ALL]" port="8001" display-name="Default Orion WebSite"
!-- The default web-app for this site, bound to the root --
default-web-app application="default" name="defaultWebApp" /

web-app application="mis" name="mis-web" load-on-startup="true"
root="/mis" /
access-log path="../log/default-web-access.log" /
/web-site

Hope this help,

Van Duong

-Original Message-
From: mohan krishna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:13 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: How to run ORION on different ports


Hello,
I am interested to run orion on multiple ports...

Consider the following scenario :

There is only one single server for production and development.
Production sites are represented by virtual hosts, each one runs a
single web site. Each sites of these only runs it's own "default" web
application. 
Development is handled by default web site which runs under port 8080.
Now i want to run one site on 8080 and other one on different port say 80.
What are the things i have to do to achieve this

Any input would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Mohan Krishna


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SV: request.getHeaders() totally broken

2001-04-05 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: SV: request.getHeaders() totally broken





Hi.
You better report this to Bugzilla.
For the second part (multiple header statements), Isnt that suposed to go into a single header?
Accept: a,b,c,d ?


WR



 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: Gerald Gutierrez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Skickat: den 4 april 2001 15:02
 Till: Orion-Interest
 Ämne: request.getHeaders() totally broken
 
 
 
 It seems that request.getHeaders() is completely broken in 
 Orion 1.4.7. If I
 call:
 
 request.getHeaders(Accept)
 
 And the HTTP request has the HTTP header:
 
 Accept:
 
 (that is Accept header with no value), Orion happily goes 
 into an infinite
 loop and then eventually breaks out with an OutOfMemoryError. 
 If, instead, I
 give it the headers:
 
 Accept: a
 Accept: b
 Accept: c
 Accept: d
 
 then getHeaders() just gives me the value of the first header (i.e. an
 enumeration with one element, with the value a) and ignores 
 all the rest.
 
 This cannot be intended behaviour. Has anyone else noticed this bug?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: How to run ORION on different ports

2001-04-05 Thread waheed_rahuman

this can be solved with application.xml  for more details

check with www.orionsupport.com

- Original Message -
From: mohan krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:13 AM
Subject: How to run ORION on different ports


 Hello,
 I am interested to run orion on multiple ports...

 Consider the following scenario :

 There is only one single server for production and development.
 Production sites are represented by virtual hosts, each one runs a
 single web site. Each sites of these only runs it's own "default" web
 application.
 Development is handled by default web site which runs under port 8080.
 Now i want to run one site on 8080 and other one on different port say 80.
 What are the things i have to do to achieve this

 Any input would be greatly appreciated
 Thanks
 Mohan Krishna

 
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Re: How to run ORION on different ports

2001-04-05 Thread Daniel Lopez

Hi Mohan,

If you mean that you want to have two different orion instances running,
you just have to copy the configuration files to some other directory,
modify the paths and ports appropriately so they don't collide and then
start orion with the option "-config [NEW_CONFIG_DIRECTORY]/server.xml"
where [NEW_CONFIG_DIRECTORY] must be substituted with the directory
where you put your new configuration files.

We have about 9 different instances running with 1-2 web applications
per instance. Why? Because this way when we have to upgrade an
application and we have to tinker with one of the instances, we are
pretty sure nothing is going to happen to the other applications. We
also have different logging directories per instance, blah, blah so
debugging is easier. Now that hot-deployment is becoming a reality, we
might start gathering applications in common instances but in the mean
time, we feel safer with separate instances and development and
production should definitely be in different ones.
The biggest drawback of this solution is that you need more HTTP ports
and the only standard one is 80. We have solved it by using an Apache
instance as a proxy in the 80 port and redirect from there to the
appropriate host/port. This also allows us to show an appropriate
"Application is being manteined" message automatically when an instance
fails, instead of the browser answering "server could be down or not
responding". Another added benefit is that we can distribute our
applications among different hosts just by changing the proxy
configuration: no html links have to be changed, no users have to be
told "the URL was X but now is Y". We know that this means a second trip
but as we proxy all non-dynamic content in the Apache server and our
problem is not traffic and speed but number of applications and
flexibility, then it's a price we are willing to pay.
Just my 2c,
Dan



mohan krishna wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I am interested to run orion on multiple ports...
 
 Consider the following scenario :
 
 There is only one single server for production and development.
 Production sites are represented by virtual hosts, each one runs a
 single web site. Each sites of these only runs it's own "default" web
 application.
 Development is handled by default web site which runs under port 8080.
 Now i want to run one site on 8080 and other one on different port say 80.
 What are the things i have to do to achieve this
 
 Any input would be greatly appreciated
 Thanks
 Mohan Krishna




Re: orion with mysql?

2001-04-05 Thread Armin Michel

 [...] We also tried Hypersonic,
 but it seems that when both Orion and JBuilder communicate with the db the
 db gets confused. At least the changes we make in JBuilder don't get
 updated.

That's propably because Orion caches data of the DB. If you stop Orion, then 
update the DB and then restart Orion, you shouldn't perceive any update 
problems.

Greetings

Armin




orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread Peter Peltonen


Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that the
situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:

* PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder

* MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)

* If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db


So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used it
with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how does
it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?


Regards,
Peter




RE: orion with mysql?

2001-04-05 Thread Kiss Tibor

The cause for that could be that MySQL does not support transactions...

 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:28 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: orion with mysql?
 
 
 You only need a schema if you intend to do CMP EJBs.  If 
 you're not using
 EJB at all then theres no reason you couldn't use MySQL.
 
 But, while its not to hard to make a schema that complies with MySQL
 somewhere in between MySQL and the mm.mysql driver the EJB transaction
 support falls apart.  My inclination is that its the mm.mysql 
 driver itself,
 and the real problem is just that transaction support is not 
 implimented in
 a way that complies with the EJB spec (e.g. javax.transaction 
 doesn't occur
 anywhere in the source).
 
 So, while you can use MySQL with Orion you can't do EJB 
 unless you switch
 over to SAPdb, PostgresSQL, or db.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Geoff Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:52 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: orion with mysql?
 
 
 Am using MySQL with Orion without it's own db-schema.  No 
 problems, yet.
 
 Be sure to get the MM.MySQL driver...
 -- 
 
 -Geoff Marshall, Director of Development
 
 ...
 t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
 54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
 San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
 ...
 
  From: Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization: Fivetec Solutions Oy
  Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:42:44 +0300
  To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: orion with mysql?
  
  
  Is it possible to use MySQL with Orion? Does it need a 
 db-schema of it's
 own?
  
  We tried to use PostgreSQL but JBuilder4 didn't cope with 
 it very well
  (JBuilder isn't able to show Postgre's tables). We also 
 tried Hypersonic,
 but
  it seems that when both Orion and JBuilder communicate with 
 the db the db
 gets
  confused. At least the changes we make in JBuilder don't 
 get updated.
  
  Any ideas about a good open-source db that would work with 
 both Orion and
  JBuilder would be appreciated!
  
  Regards,
  Peter
  
  
 
 
 




Re: Including jar files in my web app ?

2001-04-05 Thread Eddie

Hellu again,

I am debugging my problem hereunder and I validating the xml files:
"java -Dxml.validate=true -jar orion.jar"

This is nice as I encounter some errors. However, how can I do that offline
?
I have not much experience with xml, but how can I parse the orion xml files
against the DTD ?

Regards,
Eddie


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From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:38 PM
Subject: Including jar files in my web app ?


 I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my bla.jar that is
located
 in the WEB-INF/lib ??

 To me it's not really clear how to do that. The bla.jar is there but it
 keeps giving an ClassDefNotFound error.
 I also tried it with tablib (which is basically for JSP only not ???) but
 that neither worked:
 ---
 taglib
  taglib-uribla/taglib-uri
  taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/bla.jar/taglib-location
 /taglib
 ---

 What am I doing wrong ? and how can I see more in detail where is looking
??

 A,
 Eddie

 
 bash-2.04$ pwd
 /home/development/sgs/web/WEB-INF/lib
 bash-2.04$ ll
 total 428
 -rwxr--r--1 program  users  369846 Apr  4 17:01 bla.jar
 bash-2.04$
 -








SV: Including jar files in my web app ?

2001-04-05 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: SV: Including jar files in my web app ?





This is strange..
I have no problem with having a couple of jars in /WEB-INF/lib



 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: Court Demas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Skickat: den 5 april 2001 00:36
 Till: Orion-Interest
 Ämne: Re: Including jar files in my web app ?
 
 
 I just had a similar problem. Orion saw classes *either* in 
 WEB-INF/classes
 *or* in WEB-INF/lib.
 
 My solution was to either unpack all classes into 
 WEB-INF/classes (removing the
 lib directory), or create one huge JAR file in WEB-INF/lib 
 (removing the
 classes directory).
 
 I hope there's a better solution!
 
 court
 
 
 Eddie wrote:
 
  I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my bla.jar 
 that is located
  in the WEB-INF/lib ??
 
  To me it's not really clear how to do that. The bla.jar is 
 there but it
  keeps giving an ClassDefNotFound error.
  I also tried it with tablib (which is basically for JSP 
 only not ???) but
  that neither worked:
  ---
  taglib
  taglib-uribla/taglib-uri
  taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/bla.jar/taglib-location
  /taglib
  ---
 
  What am I doing wrong ? and how can I see more in detail 
 where is looking ??
 
  A,
  Eddie
 
  
  bash-2.04$ pwd
  /home/development/sgs/web/WEB-INF/lib
  bash-2.04$ ll
  total 428
  -rwxr--r-- 1 program users 369846 Apr 4 17:01 bla.jar
  bash-2.04$
  -
 
 





RE: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread Randahl Fink Isaksen

Hi Peter


I have not read your original post, nor the replies. However, I just wanted
to recommend using Interbase. If you want to use Borland JBuilder, it seems
obvious to use Borland Interbase aswell - I am not completely up to speed
with JBuilder, but I would expect that their own database product would have
the best integration with their IDE.

We have chosen Interbase because it is an old, high quality, reliable
product from Borland. I have absolutely nothing against Postgre or MySQL,
but the fact that Borland has released Interbase as a free open source
product gives you free access to a database which has been through 15 years
of professional development. Now, if anyone can mention a product which
beats that I am all ears...


In hopes I have not mentioned something, someone else already posted

Randahl

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
Sent: 5. april 2001 10:17
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: Jukka-Pekka Naukkarinen; Ilkka Suvanto
Subject: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?



Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that the
situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:

* PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder

* MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)

* If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db


So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used
it
with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how
does
it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?


Regards,
Peter





Deploying war file

2001-04-05 Thread KishoreBabu.tanety

Hi Folks,
  Can anybody explain me bow to deploy a war file in Orion Server.
Regards,
Kishore babu




Re: Including jar files in my web app ?

2001-04-05 Thread Eddie

Thanks court but it doesn't work with me.

I did what you suggested, put the velocity.jar file in the classes dir,
removed the lib, unpacked it in the classes dir, put the org dir  in the
same package dir as where the java file is located, but no luck. Maybe
because my class file is located in a package and I call it through a sevlet
reference.

It keeps on giving me that classDefnotFound error. I also validated my
web.xml file, but nothing.

Can someone please tell me where Orion looks ?? or how to debug this ?? as
this is getting a bit fru...
I also tried some debug options as explained on the site, but can't find one
which shows where Orion looks !

Hope to get some help here as I am a bit stuck!
Eddie



- Original Message -
From: Court Demas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Including jar files in my web app ?


 I just had a similar problem.  Orion saw classes *either* in
WEB-INF/classes
 *or* in WEB-INF/lib.

 My solution was to either unpack all classes into WEB-INF/classes
(removing the
 lib directory), or create one huge JAR file in WEB-INF/lib (removing the
 classes directory).

 I hope there's a better solution!

 court


 Eddie wrote:

  I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my bla.jar that is
located
  in the WEB-INF/lib ??
 
  To me it's not really clear how to do that. The bla.jar is there but it
  keeps giving an ClassDefNotFound error.
  I also tried it with tablib (which is basically for JSP only not ???)
but
  that neither worked:
  ---
  taglib
   taglib-uribla/taglib-uri
   taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/bla.jar/taglib-location
  /taglib
  ---
 
  What am I doing wrong ? and how can I see more in detail where is
looking ??
 
  A,
  Eddie
 
  
  bash-2.04$ pwd
  /home/development/sgs/web/WEB-INF/lib
  bash-2.04$ ll
  total 428
  -rwxr--r--1 program  users  369846 Apr  4 17:01 bla.jar
  bash-2.04$
  -







Ignore case on html files

2001-04-05 Thread Henrik Skafsgaard Larsen

 Can Orion be set to ignore the case (upper/lower) on filenames?
 Like default.htm = DeFault.Htm
 
 kind regards / med venlig hilsen
Henrik Skafsgaard Larsen
Systemudvikler
 
 Gandium Internet Technology
Kildegaarden 3
DK-7600 Struer
Tlf. 9684 2822
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.gandium.com






Re: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread Ray Harrison

I always like to pitch SapDB, because like Interbase, SAP DB, from the folks who 
brought us SAP
R/3 etc has been around the block. Has a lot of good stuff: Referential Integrity, 
Triggers,
Stored Procs, updateable views, subselects and outer joins, scrollable cursors, plus
maintenance-wise it has online backup, online expansion of the db, a solid set of 
commandline and
gui-based maintenance tools (some are available on Windows platforms only, for now) an 
active user
community, an active and helpful news group, and active support from a 
reasonable-sized team of
developers at SAP Labs in Berlin. The programming interfaces include ODBC, C/C++ 
precompiler,
JDBC (the one I use - it has a type4 jdbc driver that is pretty solid), Perl DBI, 
Python, and PHP.
Backup tools that can be used are:


ADSM + adint2 
Networker 
Netvault, HiBack 
(soon) Backint for Oracle
Tools supporting this interface are: 
ARCserve, Backup Express, dbBRZ for R/3, DBVAULT, DoroStore, EASY_BASE, EMC, EPOCH, 
FDR/UPSTREAM,
HIBACK, HSMS-CL Backint, NetBackup, NetVault, NetWorker, Omniback, Seagate Backup, 
SESAM, Solstice
Backup, Sys-Save, TIME NAVIGATOR for R/3, Tivoli


I believe they have something like 800 clients using it with an implementation of SAP 
R/3. It has
its quirks, here and there, which you'll notice if you try and get the Petstore to 
work with it.
But I think it is a great product, works well with Orion, handles CMP in a dandy 
fashion. Etc.


I would encourage at least evaluating the product. 

However, I am forgetting about your question, and that is does it work with JBuilder4 
and how does
it compare to MySQL and postresql? I haven't worked with postgresql, perhaps another 
person can
speak to that, but I have use MySQL. MySQL is unbelievably quick, and while there is 
now
transaction support that is coming out of the mysql camp - we decided to look at 
databases that
already had it and stumbled on this one (SAP DB). It is quick as well and does what we 
want. It
has a larger footprint than MySQL, but that would be expected. It's a quick db as well 
and has a
lot of configurable options to help out in that arena. Does it work with JBuilder4? 
Don't know! I
don't see why it wouldn't, but I'm a UltraEdit/Vi-Ant guy so I can't speak for it - 
again perhaps
someone else on the list can shed some light. 

There was another posting that suggested using Interbase with JBuilder4 - that is 
certainly a good
idea since Borland and JBuilder have been so closely linked. I have used Interbase and 
JBuilder
before but that was several years ago (They worked then!)

Good luck

Ray Harrison


--- Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that the
 situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:
 
 * PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder
 
 * MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)
 
 * If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db
 
 
 So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used it
 with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how does
 it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?
 
 
 Regards,
 Peter
 


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SAPdb

2001-04-05 Thread jthomas

Hi all,
Thank you all for ur advices on my RMI/IIOP support question...
There is another area i need help...

Assumption: we would have CMP beans

I am reading about SAPdb, and since it claims to have transaction support
and row level locking,
(which some other open source databses seem to be lacking) i am inclined to
show some interest in
SAPdb.
Now, has anyone here used SAPdb in any project environments?

Is there any particular aspect(s) that i need to be wary of?

PS: I am not considering oracle primarily because it's license fee...


Any sort of comment on SAPdb or a viable alternative is highly appreciated.


Thanks again,

Jobin Thomas







RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!

2001-04-05 Thread Liam Magee

I'd confirm the concerns listed below. We are considering migrating from
Tomcat + JOnAS to Orion - however we have concerns with the lack of feedback
or site updates this year, and are not prepared to purchase and deploy a
product without at least some indication that it will receive ongoing
support (ie up-to-date website, product updates, support, mailing list
postings, further compliance with EJB 2.0). That being said, we are very
impressed with the product and activity on this mailing list.

Regards,

Liam.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker
 Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 1:06 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!


 I have tried to schedule phone calls with Orion by sending emails
 and faxes
 to ironflare, nothing seems to work. We are going to deploy soon, but if I
 can't talk to these guys at least once, there's no way we are forking over
 any money. We need that "nice fuzzy feeling" that you get by talking to a
 warm body.

 Are there any paying customers on the news service that are getting prompt
 and reliable service for Orion, either by email or phone?

 Regards,

 Elephantwalker

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
 Burnell
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:27 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!


 Its been around 4 months since Orion went on "life-support" - ie

 - the website went on hold ...
 - Karl  Magnus went silent on company futures except for rare emails
 promising news soon
 - the software development slowed to a crawl [by comparison to last
 year's "rush"]
 - bug fixes slowed to a crawl
 - my email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] went unanswered

 Please Karl, Magnus, give us some news, even if its only to understand
 whats happened in the last 4 months

 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 11:48 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??


 Wasn't this from *WAY* back in January...

 I know that Orion 1.4.5 was released around January 22nd, there has been
 the
 updates to 1.4.7, *AND* there were rumors about 1.4.8.   But, there
 really
 hasn't been any news about the goings on of Evermind/IronFlare.  How are
 you
 guys doing?  Whats the state of IronFlare?  It would be nice to hear
 whats
 going on...

 -Original Message-
 From: Karl Avedal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:15 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??


 Hello everyone,

 Time is well overdue for some information from us about the release
 schedule
 and when you can see your bugs fixed. I'm sorry to say that I can't give
 any
 information now either about when the next release can be available and
 when
 the different bugs can be fixed.

 We have been pretty silent lately and things have moved much slower than
 we
 hoped. We understand very well that many of you are in tough positions
 with
 bugs standing in the way of using Orion for your projects.

 The silence from us has provoked a discussion about whether we are dead
 like
 so
 many other IT companies, and I just wanted to take this opportunity to
 say
 that
 we are not. We will provide more information and I sincerely hope that
 we
 will
 soon get back on track with the release schedule. More information will
 be
 sent
 to this list later this week.

 Regards,
 Karl Avedal








RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!

2001-04-05 Thread Thomas Pridham

We paid for a license.  All of our emails / calls / faxes went unanswered
until I complained on this mailing list.  I would suggest not buying a
license, unless you are prepared to "go it alone".  Orion is a great
product, but customer support is horrible!  I would develop the app on Orion
and then deploy on either JBoss or Enhydra Enterprise.  I don't think we
should give IronFlare anymore money until they start supporting their
customers correctly.

The part that is killing me, is Orion is a great product and could be a
great competitor to the big guys in the J2EE app server market.  However, by
not providing the bare-bones customer support needed, IronFlare will
eventually fail since they are now making a very bad name for themselves in
the eyes of alot of J2EE developers.  Just my 2 cents worth 

Good Luck,
Tom Pridham

-Original Message-
From: elephantwalker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:06 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!


I have tried to schedule phone calls with Orion by sending emails and faxes
to ironflare, nothing seems to work. We are going to deploy soon, but if I
can't talk to these guys at least once, there's no way we are forking over
any money. We need that "nice fuzzy feeling" that you get by talking to a
warm body.

Are there any paying customers on the news service that are getting prompt
and reliable service for Orion, either by email or phone?

Regards,

Elephantwalker

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
Burnell
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:27 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!


Its been around 4 months since Orion went on "life-support" - ie

- the website went on hold ...
- Karl  Magnus went silent on company futures except for rare emails
promising news soon
- the software development slowed to a crawl [by comparison to last
year's "rush"]
- bug fixes slowed to a crawl
- my email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] went unanswered

Please Karl, Magnus, give us some news, even if its only to understand
whats happened in the last 4 months

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 11:48 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??


Wasn't this from *WAY* back in January...

I know that Orion 1.4.5 was released around January 22nd, there has been
the
updates to 1.4.7, *AND* there were rumors about 1.4.8.   But, there
really
hasn't been any news about the goings on of Evermind/IronFlare.  How are
you
guys doing?  Whats the state of IronFlare?  It would be nice to hear
whats
going on...

-Original Message-
From: Karl Avedal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??


Hello everyone,

Time is well overdue for some information from us about the release
schedule
and when you can see your bugs fixed. I'm sorry to say that I can't give
any
information now either about when the next release can be available and
when
the different bugs can be fixed.

We have been pretty silent lately and things have moved much slower than
we
hoped. We understand very well that many of you are in tough positions
with
bugs standing in the way of using Orion for your projects.

The silence from us has provoked a discussion about whether we are dead
like
so
many other IT companies, and I just wanted to take this opportunity to
say
that
we are not. We will provide more information and I sincerely hope that
we
will
soon get back on track with the release schedule. More information will
be
sent
to this list later this week.

Regards,
Karl Avedal







Re: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread Peter Peltonen

Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:
 

Thanks for your recommendation. We've thought about Interbase. I browsed
through Borland's web pages which were really not that informative and I got
an impression that *development* use with Interbase is free but *production*
use would be under commercial license... That was why we didn't consider it at
this time. Or was I totally wrong and Interbase is free for all uses?

I am just exploring SapDB. Got the RPMs installed and I'm now browsing through
the PDF documentation, which is a bit confusing (is there an HTML version
somewhere of these docs? Acroread under Linux doesn't behave well with my
Netscape). I cannot find a "beginner's tutorial" anywhere, I mean information
like how to start / stop the service, how to start the gui and so on. Any help
appreciated :)

Cheers,
Peter


 Hi Peter
 
 I have not read your original post, nor the replies. However, I just wanted
 to recommend using Interbase. If you want to use Borland JBuilder, it seems
 obvious to use Borland Interbase aswell - I am not completely up to speed
 with JBuilder, but I would expect that their own database product would have
 the best integration with their IDE.
 
 We have chosen Interbase because it is an old, high quality, reliable
 product from Borland. I have absolutely nothing against Postgre or MySQL,
 but the fact that Borland has released Interbase as a free open source
 product gives you free access to a database which has been through 15 years
 of professional development. Now, if anyone can mention a product which
 beats that I am all ears...
 
 In hopes I have not mentioned something, someone else already posted
 
 Randahl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
 Sent: 5. april 2001 10:17
 To: Orion-Interest
 Cc: Jukka-Pekka Naukkarinen; Ilkka Suvanto
 Subject: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?
 
 Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that the
 situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:
 
 * PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder
 
 * MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)
 
 * If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db
 
 So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used
 it
 with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how
 does
 it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?
 
 Regards,
 Peter




RE: orion with mysql?

2001-04-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971

I believe the latest release of Mysql supports transactions, but I am not sure the 
binaries are set with the Berkeley transaction engine.  You may have to compile both, 
and this is a question for Mysql.

-Original Message-
From: Kiss Tibor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:31 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: orion with mysql?


The cause for that could be that MySQL does not support transactions...

 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:28 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: orion with mysql?
 
 
 You only need a schema if you intend to do CMP EJBs.  If 
 you're not using
 EJB at all then theres no reason you couldn't use MySQL.
 
 But, while its not to hard to make a schema that complies with MySQL
 somewhere in between MySQL and the mm.mysql driver the EJB transaction
 support falls apart.  My inclination is that its the mm.mysql 
 driver itself,
 and the real problem is just that transaction support is not 
 implimented in
 a way that complies with the EJB spec (e.g. javax.transaction 
 doesn't occur
 anywhere in the source).
 
 So, while you can use MySQL with Orion you can't do EJB 
 unless you switch
 over to SAPdb, PostgresSQL, or db.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Geoff Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:52 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: orion with mysql?
 
 
 Am using MySQL with Orion without it's own db-schema.  No 
 problems, yet.
 
 Be sure to get the MM.MySQL driver...
 -- 
 
 -Geoff Marshall, Director of Development
 
 ...
 t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
 54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
 San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
 ...
 
  From: Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization: Fivetec Solutions Oy
  Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:42:44 +0300
  To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: orion with mysql?
  
  
  Is it possible to use MySQL with Orion? Does it need a 
 db-schema of it's
 own?
  
  We tried to use PostgreSQL but JBuilder4 didn't cope with 
 it very well
  (JBuilder isn't able to show Postgre's tables). We also 
 tried Hypersonic,
 but
  it seems that when both Orion and JBuilder communicate with 
 the db the db
 gets
  confused. At least the changes we make in JBuilder don't 
 get updated.
  
  Any ideas about a good open-source db that would work with 
 both Orion and
  JBuilder would be appreciated!
  
  Regards,
  Peter
  
  
 
 
 




RE: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971

The only product that can beat it is Oracle, but that's not an option for everyone, 
because of the cost.  Since there are so many good, free database products, such as 
Interbase, Postgresql, Mysql, SapDB, etc., you really can pick and choose.  For the 
record, all of these databases have been around in some form or another for 
approximately fifteen years.  Even mysql, which was formed as a company only five 
years ago, had the database product around ten years before that.
Randy

-Original Message-
From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:12 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?


Hi Peter


I have not read your original post, nor the replies. However, I just wanted
to recommend using Interbase. If you want to use Borland JBuilder, it seems
obvious to use Borland Interbase aswell - I am not completely up to speed
with JBuilder, but I would expect that their own database product would have
the best integration with their IDE.

We have chosen Interbase because it is an old, high quality, reliable
product from Borland. I have absolutely nothing against Postgre or MySQL,
but the fact that Borland has released Interbase as a free open source
product gives you free access to a database which has been through 15 years
of professional development. Now, if anyone can mention a product which
beats that I am all ears...


In hopes I have not mentioned something, someone else already posted

Randahl

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
Sent: 5. april 2001 10:17
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: Jukka-Pekka Naukkarinen; Ilkka Suvanto
Subject: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?



Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that the
situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:

* PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder

* MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)

* If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db


So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used
it
with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how
does
it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?


Regards,
Peter





RE: Including jar files in my web app ?

2001-04-05 Thread Carter, Shane
Title: RE: Including jar files in my web app ?





I'm having the same problem with Orion. I'm getting NoSuchMethodError when I run this class in Orion. It works fine outside of Orion. I think Orion is picking up another package elsewhere. Below is the error message I'm getting.

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError
 at org.jdom.input.SAXHandler.startElement(SAXBuilder.java:607)
 at org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser.startElement(SAXParser.java:1289)
 at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.callStartElement(XMLParser.java:1922)
 at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.scanElement(XMLDocumentScanner.java:1831)
 at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner$ContentDispatcher.dispatch(XMLDocumentScanner.java:1223)
 at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.parseSome(XMLDocumentScanner.java:381)
 at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.parse(XMLParser.java:1208)
 at org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:302)
 at org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:373)
 at org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:354)
 at com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.loadNodeCollection(RequestParser.java:61)
 at com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.clinit(RequestParser.java:44)
 at com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doGet(NavController.java:98)
 at com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doPost(NavController.java:56)
 at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:204)
 at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:302)
 at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:329)
 at com.evermind.server.http.d3.sw(JAX)
 at com.evermind.server.http.d3.su(JAX)
 at com.evermind.server.http.ef.s1(JAX)
 at com.evermind.server.http.ef.do(JAX)
 at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX)



-Original Message-
From: Eddie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:47 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Including jar files in my web app ?



Thanks court but it doesn't work with me.


I did what you suggested, put the velocity.jar file in the classes dir,
removed the lib, unpacked it in the classes dir, put the org dir in the
same package dir as where the java file is located, but no luck. Maybe
because my class file is located in a package and I call it through a sevlet
reference.


It keeps on giving me that classDefnotFound error. I also validated my
web.xml file, but nothing.


Can someone please tell me where Orion looks ?? or how to debug this ?? as
this is getting a bit fru...
I also tried some debug options as explained on the site, but can't find one
which shows where Orion looks !


Hope to get some help here as I am a bit stuck!
Eddie




- Original Message -
From: Court Demas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Including jar files in my web app ?



 I just had a similar problem. Orion saw classes *either* in
WEB-INF/classes
 *or* in WEB-INF/lib.

 My solution was to either unpack all classes into WEB-INF/classes
(removing the
 lib directory), or create one huge JAR file in WEB-INF/lib (removing the
 classes directory).

 I hope there's a better solution!

 court


 Eddie wrote:

  I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my bla.jar that is
located
  in the WEB-INF/lib ??
 
  To me it's not really clear how to do that. The bla.jar is there but it
  keeps giving an ClassDefNotFound error.
  I also tried it with tablib (which is basically for JSP only not ???)
but
  that neither worked:
  ---
  taglib
  taglib-uribla/taglib-uri
  taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/bla.jar/taglib-location
  /taglib
  ---
 
  What am I doing wrong ? and how can I see more in detail where is
looking ??
 
  A,
  Eddie
 
  
  bash-2.04$ pwd
  /home/development/sgs/web/WEB-INF/lib
  bash-2.04$ ll
  total 428
  -rwxr--r-- 1 program users 369846 Apr 4 17:01 bla.jar
  bash-2.04$
  -








Question on Deploying an Enterprise App

2001-04-05 Thread Abhilash Koneri

Hi ,

I have an application which consists on several  enterprise beans. All
the beans access several helper class (Data access objects, etc). I need
to now what is
the best way of deploying the application in the Orion server. 

My first attempts at this were

1. Compile the ejbs into ejb jars
2. Compile the web components in war files.
3. Compile the helper class into jar files.
4. Create the Ear file consisting of the ejb-jar and war file.

Now when I run the server I need to export the cleasspath containing my
helper classes 
(the jar file refered in 3). But when I invoke orion
server using java -jar orion.jar , it overrides my system classpath with
the classpath in the manifest. So, is this not a recommonded way to
deploy the
application. If not, it would be of immense help , if someone can
provide advice/pointers.

regards,
abhilash




How to set the X-Window DISPLAY on Orion

2001-04-05 Thread Robert . Lent


Hi,

We're using Oracle Reports Server on UNIX with Orion. Oracle Reports
requires an X-Windows session on UNIX platforms. Basic inquiries such as
font availability and font metrics are resolved through X-Windows, not just
rasterization of graphic images. Reports is a bitmapped product and needs a
window runtime environment. So I've set up a Virtual Frame Buffer using
Xvfb I did some testing and when I set the DISPLAY=:1.0 and run xclock the
virtual frame buffer works just fine.

But whenever we attempt to use Reports without an Xterm running we get
"can't  open display".  So I believe the issue is actually with the
Application Server not knowing where to look for the DISPLAY. My
understanding is that with Apache's JServer you can tell it to use the Xvfb
instead of the the normal X server by making an entry in the
jserv.properties file. How can I do this with Orion?

Thanks!

Rob Lent
Lead Database Analyst
AXA Client Services







RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!

2001-04-05 Thread Hani Suleiman



On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote:

 I have thought deeply about Orion, and I feel they are affected by the same problems 
as Jboss, which is lack of funding or capital.  This is a wonderful product, build by 
some very intelligent people, with excellent advice from the user community, but 
there are three bottlenecks they need to address:

 3. Providing hooks to other popular servers, such as Apache and IBIS.

What?! While I can see this this would make it more 'sellable' and feel
more comfortable to paranoid old-fashioned folk, it's certainly not a good
idea for people who are performance sensitive. The more interfaces you
have, the more of a performance hit you take.

I don't think lack of funding is the issue, JBoss is opensource so they
have to find their money in ways other than by selling their
product. Orion sells itself, and that will keep the developers fed and
clothed and active!

Incidentally, I'm a happy Orion customer, and have had pretty good
experience in terms of support...you just have to know how to ask!

Hani





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2001-04-05 Thread Sergio Luis Sanchez

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Orion tries to use more connections that the maximum # of connections that are allowed! Why?

2001-04-05 Thread Elhadi barkat

If I use Orion's connection pool with a database that has only a few
connections (5-10)
and I explicitly define it in the data-sources.xml file

Why do I get error messages saying that the maximum number of applications
is already connected to the database.
"
2001-04-05 15:16:30,012 ERROR [ApplicationServerThread]
(Controller.java:87) -
com.evermind.server.rmi.OrionRemoteException: javax.ejb.EJBException:
Error saving state: [IBM][CLI Driver] SQL1040N  The maximum number of
applications is already connected to the database.  SQLSTATE=57030; nested
exception is:javax.ejb.EJBException:
Error saving state: [IBM][CLI Driver] SQL1040N  The maximum number of
applications is already connected to the database.  SQLSTATE=57030
"

as I understand the connection pool, Orion should not use connections if the
maximum allowed is already in use?
could someone explain me Orion's Connection pool with a limited
database(limited number of conections)

Thanks
Hadi






RE: Question on Deploying an Enterprise App

2001-04-05 Thread Marcel Schutte

 I have an application which consists on several  enterprise beans. All
 the beans access several helper class (Data access objects,
 etc). I need
 to now what is
 the best way of deploying the application in the Orion server.

 My first attempts at this were

 1. Compile the ejbs into ejb jars
 2. Compile the web components in war files.
 3. Compile the helper class into jar files.
 4. Create the Ear file consisting of the ejb-jar and war file.


You should include a 'Classpath:' entry in the manifest of your ejb.jar
pointing to the jar with the helper classes. As far as I know, this conforms
to the specs and is supported by orion, but the majority of app-servers do
not support it.

 Now when I run the server I need to export the cleasspath
 containing my
 helper classes
 (the jar file refered in 3). But when I invoke orion
 server using java -jar orion.jar , it overrides my system
 classpath with
 the classpath in the manifest. So, is this not a recommonded way to
 deploy the
 application. If not, it would be of immense help , if someone can
 provide advice/pointers.

 regards,
 abhilash






RE: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread Kiss Tibor

No.

AFAIK:
Adabas belongs to Software AG, not to SAP.
However, if you would say SapDB == Adabas D
that would be correct.
you can read more about it on www.sapdb.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Klaus Thiele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:46 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?
 
 
 Hello,
 
 perhaps a little bit misplaced here...
 
SAB DB == Adabas
 is this right?
 thanks
klaus
 
 Am Donnerstag,  5. April 2001 14:01 schrieben Sie:
  I always like to pitch SapDB, because like Interbase, SAP DB, from
[...]
 
 --
 Klaus Thiele - Personal  Informatik AG
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  "Your mouse has moved.
   Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect."
 
 




RE: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread Randahl Fink Isaksen

I believe Interbase is totally free. For some reason Borland does not
emphasize this very much - maybe to make sure people don't think it is a
discount product. Interbase is released under a licence which besides the
usual juristical mumbo jumbo says the following three important things:

"grants You a world-wide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license" (...)
"to use, reproduce, modify, display, perform, sublicense and distribute the
Original Code (or portions thereof) with or without Modifications, and/or as
part of a Larger Work;" (...)
"under Patents Claims infringed by the making, using or selling of Original
Code, to make, have made, use, practice, sell, and offer for sale, and/or
otherwise dispose of the Original Code (or portions thereof)."

And I feel sure that if it was not for these sentences there would not be an
open source project based on Interbase called "Firebird" at
http://firebird.sourceforge.net. - That's interesting by the way... when
Interbase went open source Borland was slow on getting up to speed with the
open source web community stuff, so the open source developers took the
project elsewhere and renamed it "Firebird", which means that Borland has no
control over what happens with the Firebird project. - Probably not what
Borland expected at all. Now the developers at "Firebird" claim they have
made a bunch of bug fixes which should be the reason to choose their
product.
Still, we are definately going to stick with Borland for now; after all they
have many years of experience with developing the product, so having them
control the open source effort somewhat might be a good thing.


Hope this clarifies what Borland did not make obvious at their web site.

Yours
Randahl

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
Sent: 5. april 2001 15:05
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?


Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:


Thanks for your recommendation. We've thought about Interbase. I browsed
through Borland's web pages which were really not that informative and I got
an impression that *development* use with Interbase is free but *production*
use would be under commercial license... That was why we didn't consider it
at
this time. Or was I totally wrong and Interbase is free for all uses?

I am just exploring SapDB. Got the RPMs installed and I'm now browsing
through
the PDF documentation, which is a bit confusing (is there an HTML version
somewhere of these docs? Acroread under Linux doesn't behave well with my
Netscape). I cannot find a "beginner's tutorial" anywhere, I mean
information
like how to start / stop the service, how to start the gui and so on. Any
help
appreciated :)

Cheers,
Peter


 Hi Peter

 I have not read your original post, nor the replies. However, I just
wanted
 to recommend using Interbase. If you want to use Borland JBuilder, it
seems
 obvious to use Borland Interbase aswell - I am not completely up to speed
 with JBuilder, but I would expect that their own database product would
have
 the best integration with their IDE.

 We have chosen Interbase because it is an old, high quality, reliable
 product from Borland. I have absolutely nothing against Postgre or MySQL,
 but the fact that Borland has released Interbase as a free open source
 product gives you free access to a database which has been through 15
years
 of professional development. Now, if anyone can mention a product which
 beats that I am all ears...

 In hopes I have not mentioned something, someone else already posted

 Randahl

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
 Sent: 5. april 2001 10:17
 To: Orion-Interest
 Cc: Jukka-Pekka Naukkarinen; Ilkka Suvanto
 Subject: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

 Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that
the
 situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:

 * PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder

 * MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)

 * If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db

 So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used
 it
 with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how
 does
 it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?

 Regards,
 Peter





Bi-directional relations

2001-04-05 Thread Patrik Andersson
Title: Bi-directional relations





Does bi-directional relations work yet? I'm pretty sure it did not work the last time I tried, but that was a fix fix versions ago.

Any news on this issue?


regards,
Patrik Andersson





RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!

2001-04-05 Thread Robert Krueger


guys,

as someone who has been dealing with theses issues for over 1 1/2 years of 
using orion (1 year in production for a number of applications) I would 
just advise you to save your breath and make your decision based on what's 
there now. several people (including myself) have made pleas like you a 
number of times and not much has changed but I (or better we) have decided 
that orion has reached a level of maturity that is ok for us and that it is 
an unbeatable deal for certain requirements if you can live the risks that 
are certainly there. we now know, which features are reliable and we stick 
to using those only. there are probably a number of major bugs still 
waiting to be discovered which might cause serious problems in your 
projects without any guarantee when they will be fixed. my advice is, set 
up your system, test extensively and then decide whether to buy or not (if 
you can afford that approach, of course). if you cannot live without that 
extra bit of security, you'll have to spend a heck of a lot more money for 
similar features. it's a trade-off but don't bet on anything happening at 
ironflare that hasn't happened yet.

best regards,

robert


At 22:48 05.04.2001 , you wrote:
I'd confirm the concerns listed below. We are considering migrating from
Tomcat + JOnAS to Orion - however we have concerns with the lack of feedback
or site updates this year, and are not prepared to purchase and deploy a
product without at least some indication that it will receive ongoing
support (ie up-to-date website, product updates, support, mailing list
postings, further compliance with EJB 2.0). That being said, we are very
impressed with the product and activity on this mailing list.

Regards,

Liam.


(-) Robert Krger
(-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft fr Informationstechnologie mbH
(-) Brder-Knau-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt,
(-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373
(-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de





RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!

2001-04-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971

I have thought deeply about Orion, and I feel they are affected by the same problems 
as Jboss, which is lack of funding or capital.  This is a wonderful product, build by 
some very intelligent people, with excellent advice from the user community, but there 
are three bottlenecks they need to address:
1. Documentation
2. Support
3. Providing hooks to other popular servers, such as Apache and IBIS.
If they could get a company to believe in their product (and certainly not a 
competitor trying to remove them), and fund the development, then the sky is the limit.
  Of course, I like the nice pictures and biography you find with the core staff at 
such projects as Jobs, Myself, and Postgresql.
Randy


-Original Message-
From: elephantwalker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:06 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!


I have tried to schedule phone calls with Orion by sending emails and faxes
to ironflare, nothing seems to work. We are going to deploy soon, but if I
can't talk to these guys at least once, there's no way we are forking over
any money. We need that "nice fuzzy feeling" that you get by talking to a
warm body.

Are there any paying customers on the news service that are getting prompt
and reliable service for Orion, either by email or phone?

Regards,

Elephantwalker

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
Burnell
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:27 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!


Its been around 4 months since Orion went on "life-support" - ie

- the website went on hold ...
- Karl  Magnus went silent on company futures except for rare emails
promising news soon
- the software development slowed to a crawl [by comparison to last
year's "rush"]
- bug fixes slowed to a crawl
- my email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] went unanswered

Please Karl, Magnus, give us some news, even if its only to understand
whats happened in the last 4 months

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 11:48 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??


Wasn't this from *WAY* back in January...

I know that Orion 1.4.5 was released around January 22nd, there has been
the
updates to 1.4.7, *AND* there were rumors about 1.4.8.   But, there
really
hasn't been any news about the goings on of Evermind/IronFlare.  How are
you
guys doing?  Whats the state of IronFlare?  It would be nice to hear
whats
going on...

-Original Message-
From: Karl Avedal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??


Hello everyone,

Time is well overdue for some information from us about the release
schedule
and when you can see your bugs fixed. I'm sorry to say that I can't give
any
information now either about when the next release can be available and
when
the different bugs can be fixed.

We have been pretty silent lately and things have moved much slower than
we
hoped. We understand very well that many of you are in tough positions
with
bugs standing in the way of using Orion for your projects.

The silence from us has provoked a discussion about whether we are dead
like
so
many other IT companies, and I just wanted to take this opportunity to
say
that
we are not. We will provide more information and I sincerely hope that
we
will
soon get back on track with the release schedule. More information will
be
sent
to this list later this week.

Regards,
Karl Avedal







Where to put application parameters?

2001-04-05 Thread Toth [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam \(E-mail\)

Hi,

We're using a component in our sw, and that needs a config XML file.
The following method is used currently:

java -Dsomeparam=path-to.xml -jar orion.jar

We don't have to source, and it's working ok

I''ve tried to put this into web-inf/web.xml (into EAR in WAR of course)
like this:
[..]
web-app

  context-param
param-namesomeparam/param-name
param-valuepath-to.xml/param-value
  /context-param
[..]

But it's not working. We're using absolute pathnames on WinNT
(like C:\dir\dir2\this.xml). so it's not a problem of "where is this
relative filename starts"

Does anybody know how to solve this? It's not very elegant to deploy an app
an use -D options, I think, is it.

It would be nice to take a look at a working solution or hear some comments
on this.

Thank you in advance,
Adam





RE: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

2001-04-05 Thread elephantwalker

I just checked out the sourceforge site for interbase...there doesn't seem
to be anything there. There are not files to download, nor is the cvs
available.

Firebird seems to be available, but is not the Borland distribution.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randahl Fink
Isaksen
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:28 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?


I believe Interbase is totally free. For some reason Borland does not
emphasize this very much - maybe to make sure people don't think it is a
discount product. Interbase is released under a licence which besides the
usual juristical mumbo jumbo says the following three important things:

"grants You a world-wide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license" (...)
"to use, reproduce, modify, display, perform, sublicense and distribute the
Original Code (or portions thereof) with or without Modifications, and/or as
part of a Larger Work;" (...)
"under Patents Claims infringed by the making, using or selling of Original
Code, to make, have made, use, practice, sell, and offer for sale, and/or
otherwise dispose of the Original Code (or portions thereof)."

And I feel sure that if it was not for these sentences there would not be an
open source project based on Interbase called "Firebird" at
http://firebird.sourceforge.net. - That's interesting by the way... when
Interbase went open source Borland was slow on getting up to speed with the
open source web community stuff, so the open source developers took the
project elsewhere and renamed it "Firebird", which means that Borland has no
control over what happens with the Firebird project. - Probably not what
Borland expected at all. Now the developers at "Firebird" claim they have
made a bunch of bug fixes which should be the reason to choose their
product.
Still, we are definately going to stick with Borland for now; after all they
have many years of experience with developing the product, so having them
control the open source effort somewhat might be a good thing.


Hope this clarifies what Borland did not make obvious at their web site.

Yours
Randahl

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
Sent: 5. april 2001 15:05
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?


Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:


Thanks for your recommendation. We've thought about Interbase. I browsed
through Borland's web pages which were really not that informative and I got
an impression that *development* use with Interbase is free but *production*
use would be under commercial license... That was why we didn't consider it
at
this time. Or was I totally wrong and Interbase is free for all uses?

I am just exploring SapDB. Got the RPMs installed and I'm now browsing
through
the PDF documentation, which is a bit confusing (is there an HTML version
somewhere of these docs? Acroread under Linux doesn't behave well with my
Netscape). I cannot find a "beginner's tutorial" anywhere, I mean
information
like how to start / stop the service, how to start the gui and so on. Any
help
appreciated :)

Cheers,
Peter


 Hi Peter

 I have not read your original post, nor the replies. However, I just
wanted
 to recommend using Interbase. If you want to use Borland JBuilder, it
seems
 obvious to use Borland Interbase aswell - I am not completely up to speed
 with JBuilder, but I would expect that their own database product would
have
 the best integration with their IDE.

 We have chosen Interbase because it is an old, high quality, reliable
 product from Borland. I have absolutely nothing against Postgre or MySQL,
 but the fact that Borland has released Interbase as a free open source
 product gives you free access to a database which has been through 15
years
 of professional development. Now, if anyone can mention a product which
 beats that I am all ears...

 In hopes I have not mentioned something, someone else already posted

 Randahl

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
 Sent: 5. april 2001 10:17
 To: Orion-Interest
 Cc: Jukka-Pekka Naukkarinen; Ilkka Suvanto
 Subject: orion + jbuilder4 -- sapdb?

 Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that
the
 situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:

 * PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder

 * MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)

 * If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db

 So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used
 it
 with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how
 does
 it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?

 Regards,
 Peter






Where is the log file?

2001-04-05 Thread Muly Oved

Hi

My Servlet raise an exception during the init() where can I find the log
file containing the call stack? do I need to turn on some parameter?




RE: Including jar files in my web app ?

2001-04-05 Thread Kesav Kumar
Title: RE: Including jar files in my web app ?



JDOM 
requires xerces1.2 version which supports SAX version2. Orion distribution 
comes along with its own xerces version which may not be supporting the 
SAXversion2. Copy the latest xerces.jar to the orion directory that should 
work fine. Write your own batch file to build the classpath and start 
orion with the specified classpath. I am attaching my batch files on 
Windows may they help you.

To run 
the batch file make sure that all your application necessary jar files should 
present in the the your appl-directory\web-inf\lib directory. My 
batch file takes all jar files from the app-dir\web-inf\lib directory then it 
appends orions jar files. 



Kesav Kumar Software Engineer Voquette, Inc. 650 356 3740 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.voquette.com Voquette...Delivering Sound Information 


  -Original Message-From: Carter, Shane 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 
  6:05 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Including jar 
  files in my web app ?
  I'm having the same problem with Orion. I'm getting 
  NoSuchMethodError when I run this class in Orion. It works fine outside 
  of Orion. I think Orion is picking up another package elsewhere. 
  Below is the error message I'm getting.
  java.lang.NoSuchMethodError 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXHandler.startElement(SAXBuilder.java:607) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser.startElement(SAXParser.java:1289) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.callStartElement(XMLParser.java:1922) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.scanElement(XMLDocumentScanner.java:1831) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner$ContentDispatcher.dispatch(XMLDocumentScanner.java:1223) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.parseSome(XMLDocumentScanner.java:381) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.parse(XMLParser.java:1208) 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:302) 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:373) 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:354) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.loadNodeCollection(RequestParser.java:61) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.clinit(RequestParser.java:44) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doGet(NavController.java:98) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doPost(NavController.java:56) 
   at 
  javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:204) 
   at 
  javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:302) 
   at 
  javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:329) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.d3.sw(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.d3.su(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.ef.s1(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.ef.do(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX) 
  -Original Message- From: Eddie 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:47 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Including jar 
  files in my web app ? 
  Thanks court but it doesn't work with me. 
  I did what you suggested, put the velocity.jar file in the 
  classes dir, removed the lib, unpacked it in the 
  classes dir, put the org dir in the same package 
  dir as where the java file is located, but no luck. Maybe because my class file is located in a package and I call it through a 
  sevlet reference. 
  It keeps on giving me that classDefnotFound error. I also 
  validated my web.xml file, but nothing. 
  Can someone please tell me where Orion looks ?? or how to 
  debug this ?? as this is getting a bit fru... 
  I also tried some debug options as explained on the site, but 
  can't find one which shows where Orion looks ! 
  
  Hope to get some help here as I am a bit stuck! 
  Eddie 
  - Original Message - From: 
  Court Demas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
  April 05, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Including jar 
  files in my web app ? 
   I just had a similar problem. Orion saw classes 
  *either* in WEB-INF/classes  *or* in WEB-INF/lib.   My solution was to either unpack all classes into 
  WEB-INF/classes (removing the  lib directory), or create one huge JAR file in WEB-INF/lib 
  (removing the  classes directory). 
I hope there's a better 
  solution!   
  court   
   Eddie wrote:  
I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my 
  bla.jar that is located  
   in the WEB-INF/lib ?? To me it's not really clear how to do that. The bla.jar is 
  there but it   keeps giving an 
  ClassDefNotFound error.   I also tried it with 
  tablib (which is basically for JSP only not ???) but   that neither worked: 
---  
   taglib 
   
   
  taglib-uribla/taglib-uri  
   
  taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/bla.jar/taglib-location 

  /taglib   --- What am I doing wrong ? and 
  how can I see more in detail where is looking 
  ?? 
  A,   Eddie  
    
  

RE: Including jar files in my web app ?

2001-04-05 Thread Peter Neil
Title: RE: Including jar files in my web app ?



xalan 
and xerces are in the root dir of orion

if you 
have these jar files in your velocity.jar rather replace the orion ones or use 
the orion ones.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carter, 
  ShaneSent: 05 April 2001 14:05To: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Including jar files in my web app 
  ?
  I'm having the same problem with Orion. I'm getting 
  NoSuchMethodError when I run this class in Orion. It works fine outside 
  of Orion. I think Orion is picking up another package elsewhere. 
  Below is the error message I'm getting.
  java.lang.NoSuchMethodError 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXHandler.startElement(SAXBuilder.java:607) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser.startElement(SAXParser.java:1289) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.callStartElement(XMLParser.java:1922) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.scanElement(XMLDocumentScanner.java:1831) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner$ContentDispatcher.dispatch(XMLDocumentScanner.java:1223) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.parseSome(XMLDocumentScanner.java:381) 
   at 
  org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.parse(XMLParser.java:1208) 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:302) 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:373) 
   at 
  org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:354) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.loadNodeCollection(RequestParser.java:61) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.clinit(RequestParser.java:44) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doGet(NavController.java:98) 
   at 
  com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doPost(NavController.java:56) 
   at 
  javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:204) 
   at 
  javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:302) 
   at 
  javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:329) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.d3.sw(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.d3.su(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.ef.s1(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.server.http.ef.do(JAX) 
   at 
  com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX) 
  -Original Message- From: Eddie 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:47 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Including jar 
  files in my web app ? 
  Thanks court but it doesn't work with me. 
  I did what you suggested, put the velocity.jar file in the 
  classes dir, removed the lib, unpacked it in the 
  classes dir, put the org dir in the same package 
  dir as where the java file is located, but no luck. Maybe because my class file is located in a package and I call it through a 
  sevlet reference. 
  It keeps on giving me that classDefnotFound error. I also 
  validated my web.xml file, but nothing. 
  Can someone please tell me where Orion looks ?? or how to 
  debug this ?? as this is getting a bit fru... 
  I also tried some debug options as explained on the site, but 
  can't find one which shows where Orion looks ! 
  
  Hope to get some help here as I am a bit stuck! 
  Eddie 
  - Original Message - From: 
  Court Demas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
  April 05, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Including jar 
  files in my web app ? 
   I just had a similar problem. Orion saw classes 
  *either* in WEB-INF/classes  *or* in WEB-INF/lib.   My solution was to either unpack all classes into 
  WEB-INF/classes (removing the  lib directory), or create one huge JAR file in WEB-INF/lib 
  (removing the  classes directory). 
I hope there's a better 
  solution!   
  court   
   Eddie wrote:  
I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my 
  bla.jar that is located  
   in the WEB-INF/lib ?? To me it's not really clear how to do that. The bla.jar is 
  there but it   keeps giving an 
  ClassDefNotFound error.   I also tried it with 
  tablib (which is basically for JSP only not ???) but   that neither worked: 
---  
   taglib 
   
   
  taglib-uribla/taglib-uri  
   
  taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/bla.jar/taglib-location 

  /taglib   --- What am I doing wrong ? and 
  how can I see more in detail where is looking 
  ?? 
  A,   Eddie  
    
  bash-2.04$ pwd   
  /home/development/sgs/web/WEB-INF/lib   
  bash-2.04$ ll   total 428   -rwxr--r-- 1 program 
  users 369846 Apr 4 17:01 bla.jar 
bash-2.04$   
  -


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Re: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!

2001-04-05 Thread Matthew E. Porter

I also would like to here from someone at Ironflare/Orion concerning the
status of the company.  My company is currently planning to build our
internal infrastructure on the Orion server.  


-matthew porter


elephantwalker wrote:
 
 I have tried to schedule phone calls with Orion by sending emails and faxes
 to ironflare, nothing seems to work. We are going to deploy soon, but if I
 can't talk to these guys at least once, there's no way we are forking over
 any money. We need that "nice fuzzy feeling" that you get by talking to a
 warm body.
 
 Are there any paying customers on the news service that are getting prompt
 and reliable service for Orion, either by email or phone?
 
 Regards,
 
 Elephantwalker
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
 Burnell
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:27 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!
 
 Its been around 4 months since Orion went on "life-support" - ie
 
 - the website went on hold ...
 - Karl  Magnus went silent on company futures except for rare emails
 promising news soon
 - the software development slowed to a crawl [by comparison to last
 year's "rush"]
 - bug fixes slowed to a crawl
 - my email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] went unanswered
 
 Please Karl, Magnus, give us some news, even if its only to understand
 whats happened in the last 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 11:48 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
 
 Wasn't this from *WAY* back in January...
 
 I know that Orion 1.4.5 was released around January 22nd, there has been
 the
 updates to 1.4.7, *AND* there were rumors about 1.4.8.   But, there
 really
 hasn't been any news about the goings on of Evermind/IronFlare.  How are
 you
 guys doing?  Whats the state of IronFlare?  It would be nice to hear
 whats
 going on...





Fw: changing database for the CMP primer...

2001-04-05 Thread Peter Nordlund

Hello.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but i need to know.
I want to take the CMP Primer and use another database, Sybase, InterBase
etc..

How do I do that? Do I need to redeploy?
Can I just change the orion-application.xml file?

Would like to find out.
/ Peter






RE: orion with mysql?

2001-04-05 Thread Aaron Tavistock

Actually MySQL does support transactions.  You just need to use a database
file format that supports transactions (e.g. Berkeley DB, et al).  The
mm.mysql driver also supports transactions, and its easy to setup to work
with transactions.  The real problem is that the driver doesn't handle
transactions the way the specification wants them to.


-Original Message-
From: Kiss Tibor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:31 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: orion with mysql?


The cause for that could be that MySQL does not support transactions...

 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:28 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: orion with mysql?
 
 
 You only need a schema if you intend to do CMP EJBs.  If 
 you're not using
 EJB at all then theres no reason you couldn't use MySQL.
 
 But, while its not to hard to make a schema that complies with MySQL
 somewhere in between MySQL and the mm.mysql driver the EJB transaction
 support falls apart.  My inclination is that its the mm.mysql 
 driver itself,
 and the real problem is just that transaction support is not 
 implimented in
 a way that complies with the EJB spec (e.g. javax.transaction 
 doesn't occur
 anywhere in the source).
 
 So, while you can use MySQL with Orion you can't do EJB 
 unless you switch
 over to SAPdb, PostgresSQL, or db.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Geoff Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:52 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: orion with mysql?
 
 
 Am using MySQL with Orion without it's own db-schema.  No 
 problems, yet.
 
 Be sure to get the MM.MySQL driver...
 -- 
 
 -Geoff Marshall, Director of Development
 
 ...
 t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
 54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
 San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
 ...
 
  From: Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization: Fivetec Solutions Oy
  Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:42:44 +0300
  To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: orion with mysql?
  
  
  Is it possible to use MySQL with Orion? Does it need a 
 db-schema of it's
 own?
  
  We tried to use PostgreSQL but JBuilder4 didn't cope with 
 it very well
  (JBuilder isn't able to show Postgre's tables). We also 
 tried Hypersonic,
 but
  it seems that when both Orion and JBuilder communicate with 
 the db the db
 gets
  confused. At least the changes we make in JBuilder don't 
 get updated.
  
  Any ideas about a good open-source db that would work with 
 both Orion and
  JBuilder would be appreciated!
  
  Regards,
  Peter
  
  
 
 
 




Re: orion with mysql?

2001-04-05 Thread Rian Schmidt

Sounds like you need to turn off exclusive-write-access in orion-ejb-jar.xml
while you're putzing with the database outside of the application.  We're
running with SQL Server 7 (*gasp*) and Orion will try to "fix" any manual
changes we make to the database through the admin console.  Otherwise, we
have to shutdown Orion, make the changes, and restart.

The performance hit is huge, so you wouldn't want to leave it turned off,
but Orion will basically go talk to the database at every accessor to make
sure that it's got the latest data and not assume that Orion knows best.

Rian

- Original Message -
From: Armin Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: orion with mysql?


  [...] We also tried Hypersonic,
  but it seems that when both Orion and JBuilder communicate with the db
the
  db gets confused. At least the changes we make in JBuilder don't get
  updated.

 That's propably because Orion caches data of the DB. If you stop Orion,
then
 update the DB and then restart Orion, you shouldn't perceive any update
 problems.

 Greetings

 Armin






Datasource confusion

2001-04-05 Thread Koster, K.J.

Dear All,

I am trying to use MySQL and Orion where the MySQL database is located on a
different host than Orion is.

The beans look up the datasource in JNDI. I've specified the datasource in
in ejb-jar.xml. (The resource-ref thingy) This is found, becasue I no longer
get naming exceptions.

In data-sources.xml,  I have specified the proper database URI
(jdbc:mysql://luggage/log).

However, I get an exception saying that on localhost there is no mysql
database (which is true, 'cuz it's on luggage).

Obviously Orion is feeding the bean a database URI that points to localhost.
How can I tell Orion to use the database on the other machine?

I've tried shouting in the floppy drive, but that does not help either. :-/

Kees Jan


 You are only young once,
   but you can stay immature all your life.





Re: Bi-directional relations

2001-04-05 Thread Ray Harrison

Nope. 
--- Patrik Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does bi-directional relations work yet? I'm pretty sure it did not work the
 last time I tried, but that was a fix fix versions ago.
 
 Any news on this issue?
 
 regards,
 Patrik Andersson
 


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EJB connection

2001-04-05 Thread Peng Yong


 
  We use resin 1.2.2 as a client of Orion EJB server.
 
  it works, but after runing several hours, it will throw one exception:
 
  Object reference no longer valid (Disconnected)
 
  it occurs in the DoGET method when i call the method of EJB of orion.
 
  we look and create ejb object in the init mothod of servlet.
 
  will we move the looking and creating method into DoGet method and
  execute it every time? or it's a BUG of resin?
 
 It looks to me like an Orion issue, but it's possibly something your

i restart the resin, then it works again. So it maybe some bug in resin
or the orion's class file called by resin.

 application needs to deal with.  I would think that Orion client code should
 automatically reconnect when the socket to Orion closes.  You could recover
 by using EJBObject.getHandle() and then using handle.getEJBObject().  That
 should be faster than doing the full JNDI lookup.
 

thks, i will try.

--
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RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!

2001-04-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971

How many people are actually working on Orion, and what is their forte?  Most likely, 
it is probably developed and maintain by a small number (maybe under six).  Sure, they 
are successful, and sell, but they could sell more.  Think up them as an up and coming 
rock group.  Add a good manager (CEO with a good business plan) and a promoter (a 
great technical writer working the documentation), and suddenly you have U2.

-Original Message-
From: Matthew E. Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:57 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!


I also would like to here from someone at Ironflare/Orion concerning the
status of the company.  My company is currently planning to build our
internal infrastructure on the Orion server.  


-matthew porter


elephantwalker wrote:
 
 I have tried to schedule phone calls with Orion by sending emails and faxes
 to ironflare, nothing seems to work. We are going to deploy soon, but if I
 can't talk to these guys at least once, there's no way we are forking over
 any money. We need that "nice fuzzy feeling" that you get by talking to a
 warm body.
 
 Are there any paying customers on the news service that are getting prompt
 and reliable service for Orion, either by email or phone?
 
 Regards,
 
 Elephantwalker
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
 Burnell
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:27 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive  well!
 
 Its been around 4 months since Orion went on "life-support" - ie
 
 - the website went on hold ...
 - Karl  Magnus went silent on company futures except for rare emails
 promising news soon
 - the software development slowed to a crawl [by comparison to last
 year's "rush"]
 - bug fixes slowed to a crawl
 - my email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] went unanswered
 
 Please Karl, Magnus, give us some news, even if its only to understand
 whats happened in the last 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 11:48 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
 
 Wasn't this from *WAY* back in January...
 
 I know that Orion 1.4.5 was released around January 22nd, there has been
 the
 updates to 1.4.7, *AND* there were rumors about 1.4.8.   But, there
 really
 hasn't been any news about the goings on of Evermind/IronFlare.  How are
 you
 guys doing?  Whats the state of IronFlare?  It would be nice to hear
 whats
 going on...





configuring jndi

2001-04-05 Thread Christy Nicklas

I'm unable to find a solution to this in the Orion docs, or at dejanews, but
maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

I'm trying to use jndi from within a servlet.  I can bind something and then
immediately retrieve it, but when I bind the item once, remove that line
from the code, and run the servlet again trying to retrieve the item, I get
the following error:
Naming exception in service
javax.naming.NamingException: META-INF/application-client.xml resource not
foundat java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:96)
at java.lang.Exception.init(Exception.java:44)
at javax.naming.NamingException.init(NamingException.java:103)
at
com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory.getInitialContext
(JAX)
at javax.naming.spi.NamingManager.getInitialContext(NamingManager.java:669)
at javax.naming.InitialContext.getDefaultInitCtx(InitialContext.java:247)
at javax.naming.InitialContext.init(InitialContext.java:223)
at javax.naming.InitialContext.init(InitialContext.java:199)
at JNDIMovieList.service(JNDIMovieList.java:55)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:329)
at com.evermind.server.http.d3.sw(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.d3.su(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.ef.s1(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.ef.do(JAX)
at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX)
META-INF/application-client.xml resource not found


I do not know what is supposed to be in application-client.xml, what format
it is supposed to take, and where it is supposed to be relative to the
servlet directory.  


The relevant code:

try
  {
Hashtable env = new Hashtable();

env.put("java.naming.factory.initial",
   "com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory");
env.put(Context.PROVIDER_URL,
"ormi://localhost/servlet/JNDIMovieList");

ctx = new InitialContext(env);

//ctx.rebind("MovieXML", "foofoofoofoofoofoo");

Object object = ctx.lookup("MovieXML");

  }

  catch (NamingException e)
  {
System.out.println("Naming exception in service");
e.printStackTrace();
System.out.println(e.getMessage());
  }


It looks like there is supposed to be a jndi.properties file in the
classpath, so I tried putting that there - although I'm not sure if this
means the properties file itself should be in the classpath, or the
directory the file is in should be in the classpath.

I'm not sure the java.naming.factory.initial or the provider_url are correct
either, or what is required besides the java.naming.factory.initial.  Can
someone point me in the right direction here?

--Christy 

 




RE: Including jar files in my web app ?

2001-04-05 Thread Ed Bras

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Apearantly some people have problems including jar files.
To me it's not clear what the problem is, but to solve it I need to know
where Orion looks for jar files.
Can someone please tell me that or tell me how to enable Orion to output his
search locations/paths ?? Plaaase?

Resume:
If I just put my jar file in the lib, my web-app can't find it.
If I include the jar file in a tablib entry, neither does it find it (but I
think this isn't the way as the jar is not for JSP usage).

I have tried about everyting, but ...nothing... and it's hard searching the
problem if Orion doesn't tell me where he searches.

Eddie.





From: "Carter, Shane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Including jar files in my web app ?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:04:51 -0500

I'm having the same problem with Orion.  I'm getting NoSuchMethodError when
I run this class in Orion.  It works fine outside of Orion.  I think Orion
is picking up another package elsewhere.  Below is the error message I'm
getting.

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError
   at org.jdom.input.SAXHandler.startElement(SAXBuilder.java:607)
   at
org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser.startElement(SAXParser.java:1289)
   at
org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.callStartElement(XMLParser.java:1922)
   at
org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.scanElement(XMLDocumentScanne
r.java:1831)
   at
org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner$ContentDispatcher.dispatch(XM
LDocumentScanner.java:1223)
   at
org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLDocumentScanner.parseSome(XMLDocumentScanner.
java:381)
   at org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.parse(XMLParser.java:1208)
   at org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:302)
   at org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:373)
   at org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:354)
   at
com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.loadNodeCollection(RequestParser.java:6
1)
   at
com.psg.blkjck.control.RequestParser.clinit(RequestParser.java:44)
   at com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doGet(NavController.java:98)
   at
com.psg.blkjck.control.NavController.doPost(NavController.java:56)
   at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:204)
   at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:302)
   at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:329)
   at com.evermind.server.http.d3.sw(JAX)
   at com.evermind.server.http.d3.su(JAX)
   at com.evermind.server.http.ef.s1(JAX)
   at com.evermind.server.http.ef.do(JAX)
   at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX)


-Original Message-
From: Eddie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:47 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Including jar files in my web app ?


Thanks court but it doesn't work with me.

I did what you suggested, put the velocity.jar file in the classes dir,
removed the lib, unpacked it in the classes dir, put the org dir  in the
same package dir as where the java file is located, but no luck. Maybe
because my class file is located in a package and I call it through a 
sevlet
reference.

It keeps on giving me that classDefnotFound error. I also validated my
web.xml file, but nothing.

Can someone please tell me where Orion looks ?? or how to debug this ?? as
this is getting a bit fru...
I also tried some debug options as explained on the site, but can't find 
one
which shows where Orion looks !

Hope to get some help here as I am a bit stuck!
Eddie



- Original Message -
From: Court Demas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Including jar files in my web app ?


  I just had a similar problem.  Orion saw classes *either* in
WEB-INF/classes
  *or* in WEB-INF/lib.
 
  My solution was to either unpack all classes into WEB-INF/classes
(removing the
  lib directory), or create one huge JAR file in WEB-INF/lib (removing the
  classes directory).
 
  I hope there's a better solution!
 
  court
 
 
  Eddie wrote:
 
   I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my bla.jar that is
located
   in the WEB-INF/lib ??
  
   To me it's not really clear how to do that. The bla.jar is there but 
it
   keeps giving an ClassDefNotFound error.
   I also tried it with tablib (which is basically for JSP only not ???)
but
   that neither worked:
   ---
   taglib
taglib-uribla/taglib-uri
taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/bla.jar/taglib-location
   /taglib
   ---
  
   What am I doing wrong ? and how can I see more in detail where is
looking ??
  
   A,
   Eddie
  
   
   bash-2.04$ pwd
   /home/development/sgs/web/WEB-INF/lib
   bash-2.04$ ll
   total 428
   -rwxr--r--1 program  users  369846 Apr  4 17:01 bla.jar
   bash-2.04$
   -
 
 
 


RE: Datasource confusion

2001-04-05 Thread UnicMan

Hi,

 I am trying to use MySQL and Orion where the MySQL database is
 located on a
 different host than Orion is.

 The beans look up the datasource in JNDI. I've specified the datasource in
 in ejb-jar.xml. (The resource-ref thingy) This is found, becasue
 I no longer
 get naming exceptions.

 In data-sources.xml,  I have specified the proper database URI
 (jdbc:mysql://luggage/log).

Let me tell if I have understood the question...
You are unable to connect to your database, isn't it?

I had similar problem for a EJB (BMP)... I don't know if the approach
used for it was correct one, but it worked.

Orion create folders for beans etc in application-deployments. There
I in 'orion-ejb-jar.xml' under my ejb folder, I added location="jdbc/MyDS"
(in my case), in the tag which specified the resource dependancy.

If you haven't tried that then try the above... it might work!

Seeya.

- UnicMan





UserManager Site Name

2001-04-05 Thread Matthew E. Porter

This may be a rather simple question, but not having dealt with Orion's
UserManager system before I am having difficulties.

I have written a custom UserManager that authenticates against an LDAP
server.  I would like to be able to setup virtual hosts that can use the
same LDAPUserManager but authenticate to different levels of the LDAP
tree.  For example, foo.com would look for users and groups under
o=foo.com,c=us while example.com would look under o=example.com,c=us. 
Is there a way to have the UserManager pull the domain name?

Thanks for any help.



-Matthew Porter




Orion CMP

2001-04-05 Thread Ashok Banerjee

Where does Orion store its CMP data? I know it uses HSQL and I believe
HSQL - where are the HSQL datafiles physically located?

If I change in data-source.xml does that mean my CMP data is also now
going to go to a different database? I modified data-sources.xml
as below and yet I keep getting

D:\Orion\orion\demo\ejb\productjava -classpath
.;..\..\..\orion.jar;..\..\..\ej
b.jar;..\..\..\jndi.jar ProductClient
Communication error: Error reading application-client descriptor: Error
looking
up EJBHome: Lookup error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused:
no furt
her information; nested exception is:
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further
information

Any further information on configuring orion to use Oracle DB as
persistent store would help.
Cheers,
Ash


?xml version="1.0"?
!DOCTYPE data-sources PUBLIC "Orion data-sources"
"http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/data-sources.dtd"

data-sources
 !--
  An example/default DataSource that uses an ordinary
  JDBC-driver (in this case hsql) to create the connections.
  This tag creates all the needed kinds
  of data-sources, transactional, pooled and EJB-aware sources.
  The source generally used in application code is the "EJB"
  one - it provides transactional safety and connection pooling.
 --
!-- data-source
  class="com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource"
  name="Hypersonic"
  location="jdbc/HypersonicCoreDS"
  xa-location="jdbc/xa/HypersonicXADS"
  ejb-location="jdbc/HypersonicDS"
  connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver"
  username="sa"
  password=""
  url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./database/defaultdb"
  inactivity-timeout="30"
 /--
data-source
  class="com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource"
  name="Oracle"
  location="jdbc/OracleCoreDS"
  xa-location="jdbc/xa/OracleXADS"
  ejb-location="jdbc/OracleDS"
  connection-driver="oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver"
  username="orion"
  password="orion"
  url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@mysun-box:1521:mydb"
  inactivity-timeout="30"
 /

/data-sources






RE: bugs orion support etc

2001-04-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971



There 
are some excellent thoughts expressed here. I too, am happy Orion is free 
for development, and I love the product. If you look into some of the open 
source DB servers, such as Mysql, Postgresql, and SapDB, all offer some sort of 
support contracts for a price. Usually, for development, you would spend 
time reading the documentation, asking questions on user lists, trial and error, 
etc., but management normally feels safer with a support contract, whether it is 
any good or not, is an entirely different matter. I think Orion is just 
going through some growing pains, and they are probably more successful then 
anticipated, and will probably cope with these problems in time. 


  -Original Message-From: cybermaster 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 
  12:34 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: bugs  orion 
  support etc
  
  Since 
  there have been quite a few comments about support (or the lack of it) on this 
  mailing list, Id like to add my own 5c:
  
  
At 
least 95% of the time I have a problem it is a typo or some issues I didnt 
understand correctly  from the messages I see on this mailing list, I 
suspect it is the same for most other 
participants 
Although 
we always wish for more, browsing through orionserver/orionsupport/jollem 
yields quite a bit of info  but of course it takes more time to search 
oneself than trying to get someone who knows on the phone or by email 
 
Support 
costs money  I suggest that Orion or Ironflare or whatever the name of the 
company hires (a) support person(s) and offers a paid service; maybe they 
need to find out first how many developers/companies are interested and how 
much they are willing to dish out for it (there could be more than one level 
of support) 
  
  I am 
  grateful that Orion is free for development and is packed with features, but 
  realize that when deployment time comes along, I may want to rely on an 
  official support service.
  
  Peter 
  Saurugger
  Consultant


RE: configuring jndi

2001-04-05 Thread Christy Nicklas

Actually, you can ignore my earlier message, as I found the immediate
problem, although a pointer on how to configure jndi in general would
probably still be helpful.

--Christy 




Re: Orion CMP

2001-04-05 Thread Jeff Hubbach

After configuring data-sources.xml, you have to make sure all your beans are looking 
for the right datasource. This is defined
in the orion-ejb-jar.xml file. In the entity-deployment tag, there's an entry of 
data-source="". you're gonna have to change
this from what I'm assuming it is now, "jdbc/HypersonicDS", to "jdbc/OracleDS".

Jeff.

Ashok Banerjee wrote:

 Where does Orion store its CMP data? I know it uses HSQL and I believe
 HSQL - where are the HSQL datafiles physically located?

 If I change in data-source.xml does that mean my CMP data is also now
 going to go to a different database? I modified data-sources.xml
 as below and yet I keep getting

 D:\Orion\orion\demo\ejb\productjava -classpath
 .;..\..\..\orion.jar;..\..\..\ej
 b.jar;..\..\..\jndi.jar ProductClient
 Communication error: Error reading application-client descriptor: Error
 looking
 up EJBHome: Lookup error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused:
 no furt
 her information; nested exception is:
 java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further
 information

 Any further information on configuring orion to use Oracle DB as
 persistent store would help.
 Cheers,
 Ash
 


 ?xml version="1.0"?
 !DOCTYPE data-sources PUBLIC "Orion data-sources"
 "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/data-sources.dtd"

 data-sources
  !--
   An example/default DataSource that uses an ordinary
   JDBC-driver (in this case hsql) to create the connections.
   This tag creates all the needed kinds
   of data-sources, transactional, pooled and EJB-aware sources.
   The source generally used in application code is the "EJB"
   one - it provides transactional safety and connection pooling.
  --
 !-- data-source
   class="com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource"
   name="Hypersonic"
   location="jdbc/HypersonicCoreDS"
   xa-location="jdbc/xa/HypersonicXADS"
   ejb-location="jdbc/HypersonicDS"
   connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver"
   username="sa"
   password=""
   url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./database/defaultdb"
   inactivity-timeout="30"
  /--
 data-source
   class="com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource"
   name="Oracle"
   location="jdbc/OracleCoreDS"
   xa-location="jdbc/xa/OracleXADS"
   ejb-location="jdbc/OracleDS"
   connection-driver="oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver"
   username="orion"
   password="orion"
   url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@mysun-box:1521:mydb"
   inactivity-timeout="30"
  /

 /data-sources

--
Jeff Hubbach
Internet Developer
New Media Designs, Inc.
www.nmd.com







Wrap OrionConsoleAdmin with Servlet?

2001-04-05 Thread Mark A. Richman



admin.jar is just a wrapper for 
com.evermind.client.orion.OrionConsoleAdmin. With that, can I invoke 
OrionConsoleAdmin from a servlet?I want to 
deploy the archive (war/ear) via HTTP 
upload? My goal is to create a web admin utility for 
Orion.
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Re: Datasource confusion

2001-04-05 Thread denis despinoy


This line jdbc:mysql://luggage/log is not complete and
consider mysql local.

The syntax for url = 

drivertype:@location:PORT:instancedb
ex: jdbc:oracle:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:777:FDEV

for hsql this points to local
jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./databases/mydb = :. means local

for u I think it should be but I do not know your
network topo try
jdbc:mysql:@luggage.log:yourdbpath

--- "Koster, K.J." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear All,
 
 I am trying to use MySQL and Orion where the MySQL
 database is located on a
 different host than Orion is.
 
 The beans look up the datasource in JNDI. I've
 specified the datasource in
 in ejb-jar.xml. (The resource-ref thingy) This is
 found, becasue I no longer
 get naming exceptions.
 
 In data-sources.xml,  I have specified the proper
 database URI
 (jdbc:mysql://luggage/log).
 
 However, I get an exception saying that on localhost
 there is no mysql
 database (which is true, 'cuz it's on luggage).
 
 Obviously Orion is feeding the bean a database URI
 that points to localhost.
 How can I tell Orion to use the database on the
 other machine?
 
 I've tried shouting in the floppy drive, but that
 does not help either. :-/
 
 Kees Jan
 
 
  You are only young once,
but you can stay immature all your life.
 
 


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CMP default datasource

2001-04-05 Thread Ashok Banerjee

I could change the cmt datasource (from HyperSonic to mySql) by changing in 
the application-deployments directory (thanks to pointer from UnicMan).

But does anyone know what one can do in ones own ejbs to have the CMP bean 
persisted to mySql by default.

Cheers,
Ash

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XA Queues work ?

2001-04-05 Thread ramiro

Hello list,
We've been trying to use, transaction aware queues with no success..
The problem is that messages always get sent, inspite of rollbacks.
We don't know if it is our fault or this type of queues don't work properly
in Orion.

Here is a snip of our configuration and what we are doing.

---
jms.xml:
 xa-topic-connection-factory location
="jms/observerConnectionFactory"/
 topic name="Observer" location="jms/observer"
 /topic
---
/** Some session bean's method */

UserTransaction transaction = ctx.getUserTransaction();
transaction.begin();
sendMessage();
transaction.rollback();

---

/**
   Inside the sendMessage method.
   We have tryied to use Topic and Queue types.
*/


Topictopic = null;
 XATopicSession  session = null;
 XATopicConnection   connection = null;
 XATopicConnectionFactory connectionFactory = null;
 TopicPublisher   publisher;

 InitialContext  initialContext = new InitialContext ();

connectionFactory = (XATopicConnectionFactory) initialContext.lookup
("java:comp/env/jms/observerConnectionFactory");
topic = (Topic) initialContext.lookup ("java:comp/env/jms/observer");

initialContext.close ();

connection = connectionFactory.createXATopicConnection ();
connection.start ();
session = connection.createXATopicSession ();
publisher = session.getTopicSession ().createPublisher (topic);

Message message = session.createMessage ();

message.setStringProperty ("str", event.getSource ().toString ());
publisher.publish (message);
session.close ();
connection.close ();

---

Ramiro Diaz Trepat
Opetra





Re: Bi-directional relations (my kludge)

2001-04-05 Thread Reid Hartenbower

I have found the lack of bi-directional support very frustrating, and think
that it so impedes CMP functionality that it should be qualified as a bug,
and not a pending feature.

I also don't see what the big technical challenge in implementing it would
be.
If Orion is going to be this sluggish with support and new features, I would
ask them to consider going open source.  Let me fix it if you won't--do you
hear me Orion guys?

My workaround is to manage the relations with a 'RelationManager' session
bean.  For n-m relations, I create my join tables with composite primary
keys, as in (for hsql):

CREATE TABLE User_Order (
userId  CHAR(37)NOT NULL,
orderIdCHAR(37)NOT NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (userId, orderId));


Then in the session bean, I explicitly create both sides of the relationship
(eg. user.addOrder(order) and order.addUser(user) ) and catch the duplicate
key exception, as in:

user.addOrder(order);
if(NON_DIRECTIONAL_BUG) {
  try {
order.addUser(user);
  }
  catch(EJBException e) {
// for Orion 1.4.7 bidirectional bug;
  }
}

When (if) Orion fixes this bug, the modifications to my code will be slight.

- Original Message -
From: "Ray Harrison" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Bi-directional relations


 Nope.
 --- Patrik Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does bi-directional relations work yet? I'm pretty sure it did not work
the
  last time I tried, but that was a fix fix versions ago.
 
  Any news on this issue?
 
  regards,
  Patrik Andersson
 


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Re: Bi-directional relations (my kludge)

2001-04-05 Thread Ray Harrison

Hi Reid -
What App Servers currently offer m-n relationships - I'm interested in exploring how 
some of them
operate.

Cheers
Ray
--- Reid Hartenbower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have found the lack of bi-directional support very frustrating, and think
 that it so impedes CMP functionality that it should be qualified as a bug,
 and not a pending feature.
 
 I also don't see what the big technical challenge in implementing it would
 be.
 If Orion is going to be this sluggish with support and new features, I would
 ask them to consider going open source.  Let me fix it if you won't--do you
 hear me Orion guys?
 
 My workaround is to manage the relations with a 'RelationManager' session
 bean.  For n-m relations, I create my join tables with composite primary
 keys, as in (for hsql):
 
 CREATE TABLE User_Order (
 userId  CHAR(37)NOT NULL,
 orderIdCHAR(37)NOT NULL,
 PRIMARY KEY (userId, orderId));
 
 
 Then in the session bean, I explicitly create both sides of the relationship
 (eg. user.addOrder(order) and order.addUser(user) ) and catch the duplicate
 key exception, as in:
 
 user.addOrder(order);
 if(NON_DIRECTIONAL_BUG) {
   try {
 order.addUser(user);
   }
   catch(EJBException e) {
 // for Orion 1.4.7 bidirectional bug;
   }
 }
 
 When (if) Orion fixes this bug, the modifications to my code will be slight.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Ray Harrison" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Bi-directional relations
 
 
  Nope.
  --- Patrik Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does bi-directional relations work yet? I'm pretty sure it did not work
 the
   last time I tried, but that was a fix fix versions ago.
  
   Any news on this issue?
  
   regards,
   Patrik Andersson
  
 
 
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Re: Question on Deploying an Enterprise App

2001-04-05 Thread Abhilash Koneri

Thanks a lot for the reply, I have some more questions :
1. If the helper classes are accessed by my servelets as well as EJBs
whould the suggested
   Configuration still work?
2. Where do I put the class which are clients to my EJBs ? For example :
   Servlet A  Class B  EJB C.  Where do I put my class B?


Dave Smith wrote:
 
 One way to do it would be to set the Classpath attribute in the ejb jar
 manifests
 
 e.g.
 
 Class-Path: helperclasses.jar
 
 Abhilash Koneri wrote:
 
  Hi ,
 
  I have an application which consists on several  enterprise beans. All
  the beans access several helper class (Data access objects, etc). I need
  to now what is
  the best way of deploying the application in the Orion server.
 
  My first attempts at this were
 
  1. Compile the ejbs into ejb jars
  2. Compile the web components in war files.
  3. Compile the helper class into jar files.
  4. Create the Ear file consisting of the ejb-jar and war file.
 
  Now when I run the server I need to export the cleasspath containing my
  helper classes
  (the jar file refered in 3). But when I invoke orion
  server using java -jar orion.jar , it overrides my system classpath with
  the classpath in the manifest. So, is this not a recommonded way to
  deploy the
  application. If not, it would be of immense help , if someone can
  provide advice/pointers.
 
  regards,
  abhilash
 
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Re: Bi-directional relations (my kludge)

2001-04-05 Thread Hani Suleiman

This might come as a bit of a surprise...but bi-directional relationships
are a feature of EJB2.0, which is not final, and in fact if the rumours
are to be believed, will undergo major changes in the next draft. I find
it astounding that someone thinks that incomplete partial support for a
moving target of a spec is a 'bug'. Most app servers support NONE of EJB
2.0. And certainly, of those that do, not a single one has 'complete'
support for it. Even Sun's RI blows up in various ways when using EJB 2.0
beans. If you feel that adding bi-directional CMP in accordance with the
latest incarnation of the spec is easy, and keeping that in sync (in a
timely fashion) with the spec, then you should start your own
appserver. You'll have a huge following I'm sure, if you deliver.

Hani


On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ray Harrison wrote:

 Hi Reid -
 What App Servers currently offer m-n relationships - I'm interested in exploring how 
some of them
 operate.
 
 Cheers
 Ray
 --- Reid Hartenbower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have found the lack of bi-directional support very frustrating, and think
  that it so impedes CMP functionality that it should be qualified as a bug,
  and not a pending feature.
  
  I also don't see what the big technical challenge in implementing it would
  be.
  If Orion is going to be this sluggish with support and new features, I would
  ask them to consider going open source.  Let me fix it if you won't--do you
  hear me Orion guys?
  
  My workaround is to manage the relations with a 'RelationManager' session
  bean.  For n-m relations, I create my join tables with composite primary
  keys, as in (for hsql):
  
  CREATE TABLE User_Order (
  userId  CHAR(37)NOT NULL,
  orderIdCHAR(37)NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY (userId, orderId));
  
  
  Then in the session bean, I explicitly create both sides of the relationship
  (eg. user.addOrder(order) and order.addUser(user) ) and catch the duplicate
  key exception, as in:
  
  user.addOrder(order);
  if(NON_DIRECTIONAL_BUG) {
try {
  order.addUser(user);
}
catch(EJBException e) {
  // for Orion 1.4.7 bidirectional bug;
}
  }
  
  When (if) Orion fixes this bug, the modifications to my code will be slight.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Ray Harrison" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Bi-directional relations
  
  
   Nope.
   --- Patrik Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does bi-directional relations work yet? I'm pretty sure it did not work
  the
last time I tried, but that was a fix fix versions ago.
   
Any news on this issue?
   
regards,
Patrik Andersson
   
  
  
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Finder methods on EJB fields

2001-04-05 Thread Adam Cassar

Hello,


Does anyone on this list know if an EB using an Entity Reference as an
attribute, can have a finder method
search on that attribute? If so can you search on attributes of the
afore mentioned entity reference?



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Re: orion with mysql?

2001-04-05 Thread peter kua

assuming you are setting up mysql version 3.23.33 in a linux box. need to
download both mysql and the berkeley engine.can be found in www.mysql.com
---
first time installing mysql. log in as root

assume mysql install dir = /mysql and berkeley install dir = /db-3.2.9a
cd /mysql
./configure --with-berkeley-db=/db-3.2.9a (to enable transaction tables.
3.2.9a is the patch version for mysql 3.23.xx versions)

this will then start the server for the first time. must set pwd for root
bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'xx'

after that you'll have to option to create transactional tables which can be
used with EJBs



- Original Message -
From: "Kemp Randy-W18971" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: orion with mysql?


 I believe the latest release of Mysql supports transactions, but I am not
sure the binaries are set with the Berkeley transaction engine.  You may
have to compile both, and this is a question for Mysql.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kiss Tibor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:31 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: orion with mysql?


 The cause for that could be that MySQL does not support transactions...

  -Original Message-
  From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:28 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: RE: orion with mysql?
 
 
  You only need a schema if you intend to do CMP EJBs.  If
  you're not using
  EJB at all then theres no reason you couldn't use MySQL.
 
  But, while its not to hard to make a schema that complies with MySQL
  somewhere in between MySQL and the mm.mysql driver the EJB transaction
  support falls apart.  My inclination is that its the mm.mysql
  driver itself,
  and the real problem is just that transaction support is not
  implimented in
  a way that complies with the EJB spec (e.g. javax.transaction
  doesn't occur
  anywhere in the source).
 
  So, while you can use MySQL with Orion you can't do EJB
  unless you switch
  over to SAPdb, PostgresSQL, or db.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Geoff Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:52 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Re: orion with mysql?
 
 
  Am using MySQL with Orion without it's own db-schema.  No
  problems, yet.
 
  Be sure to get the MM.MySQL driver...
  --
 
  -Geoff Marshall, Director of Development
 
  ...
  t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
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  San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
  ...
 
   From: Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Organization: Fivetec Solutions Oy
   Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:42:44 +0300
   To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: orion with mysql?
  
  
   Is it possible to use MySQL with Orion? Does it need a
  db-schema of it's
  own?
  
   We tried to use PostgreSQL but JBuilder4 didn't cope with
  it very well
   (JBuilder isn't able to show Postgre's tables). We also
  tried Hypersonic,
  but
   it seems that when both Orion and JBuilder communicate with
  the db the db
  gets
   confused. At least the changes we make in JBuilder don't
  get updated.
  
   Any ideas about a good open-source db that would work with
  both Orion and
   JBuilder would be appreciated!
  
   Regards,
   Peter
  
  
 
 
 





Re: configuring jndi

2001-04-05 Thread Bill Winspur

I'm interested. What was the problem ?
Bill.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christy Nicklas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: configuring jndi


 Actually, you can ignore my earlier message, as I found the immediate
 problem, although a pointer on how to configure jndi in general would
 probably still be helpful.
 
 --Christy