RE: JSP vs PHP
I guess the discussion was in a Linux environment. The speed issue (especially development speed) is voiced a lot in Linux circles by PHP advocates as the number of people in the Linux scene who know PHP far outnumbers the number of JSP people in there. Performance of PHP on Linux is likely also a bit better as the Linux JVMs do not excell where it comes to performance (if only because Linux servers are generally older, lower spec, machines and we all know Java does only come into its own if it has loads of memory). Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arved Sandstrom Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 14:02 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: JSP vs PHP Can't speak for the runtime performance - PHP, JSP, and ColdFusion are all pretty fast - but I can't see how one can pin down development time differences between PHP and JSP. Maybe with an atomic clock. ColdFusion is faster still (higher level of abstraction). IMO the only sensible basis of comparison between these HTML-embedded scripting languages is platform support and feature-sets. Was that a public discussion you refer to? It would be interesting to see what arguments could possibly have been made. Regards, Arved Sandstrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Eggink Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:29 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: JSP vs PHP Hi, I just ran into a discussion regarding PHP vs. JSP (and ASP). A claim was made that PHP was the better alternative as it is quicker in development and gives you a better runtime performance. I have no hands-on PHP experience. Can anyone explain me the benefits of PHP over JSP (and vice versa of course). I'm bit reluctant to rely solely on marketing speak. Thanks, FE
RE: Kawa
Title: RE: Kawa I found both to be nice but slow (the latter probably due to inefficient Swing in the JDK 1.2.1 of the time) and to contain serious memory leaks (also at least in part due to bugs in JDK 1.2.1). -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp Randy-W18971Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 14:56To: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Kawa A couple of good, free Java based text editors are jext and jedit. I don't have the current web sites. -Original Message-From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:04 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Kawa What is anyone using on Linux for Java development? I would like to use ANT and a Java based text editor (syntax color hightlighting, multi-tab windows for quick access, and tree-view of project (or file structure). Infact, I use UltraEdit32 right now which does the job for me since I do server-side for web development. I would also possibly like an output window that displays errors so I can dbl-click on them and move to the file/line of the problem, as well as a method list when a class is selected, to jump to a specific method in a class. Thanks. -Original Message-From: Patrick Deloulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:06 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Kawa I have 5.0 Ent as well. I have not tried to debug with it. But when I have time I will give it a shot and report it to the list. As far as I know, the debugger is the same in KAWA 4.0, 5.0Pro and 5.0Ent. 5.0Ent integreates with some EJB tools. So the same debug setup should work as well. This is the original posting from Dave Smith. (Kawa version mentioned is 4.0Pro) Patrick Deloulay www.nomadis.com Dave Smith adds: "Debugging with Orion and Kawa is a pleasure." Get Kawa Pro (not the enterprise version) from Tek-Tools and install it. Configure your JDK as required when you first run Kawa. (Note that Kawa is a Win32 application, which is one of the reasons I don't use it.) Create a new project for your servlets or EJBs. Add orion.jar, any additional jars required by the application, and the deployed class directory (i.e., c:\applications\myApp\myApp-web\WEB-INF\classes or c:\applications\myApp\myApp-ejb, or both). From the Project/Interpreter menu, set the Java class to run to com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer and remember to tell it to use this class (as this image, given me by Chris Miller, shows). Turn off JVMDI debugger from the Customize/Options/Advanced Paths form, which is for performance only and is not vital. Add the breakpoints to your servlets and/or EJBs. F5 starts debugging, and Dave adds to "Relax, sit back and enjoy the ride. The speed kills NetBeans dead." Also from Dave: For a real screamer, use Jikes: Customize/Options/Advanced Paths/Compiler = D:\jikes\jikes.exe +E And set Orion to use jikes from $ORION/server.xml. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael S. Kelly Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:01 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Kawa My experience as well. I also found that a number of features didn't really work yet. I'm holding out for v5.1. -=michael=- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumitru Sbenghe Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:27 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Kawa Yesterday, I download the Kawa 5.0 Entreprise from Allaire site and I didn't find any "out-of-the-box" support for Orion; Only Weblogic, Jrun and J2ee-ri; Perhaps on the web page they talk about a future version !? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ervin Jakab Sent: vendredi 5 janvier 2001 21:41 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Kawa Maybe some of you are interested to find out that Kawa 5.0 Enterprise from Allaire has out-of-the-box support for Orion deployment. Check this out: http://www.allaire.com/products/kawa/productinformation/enterprise.cfm .
RE: What's going on with Orion?
late last year, they posted the reason for the quiet: They are reorganising the business to accomodate a larger company structure. I guess they also take the time to lay down the groundwork for major improvements and some study. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guilherme Ceschiatti Sent: 04 January 2001 19:36 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: What's going on with Orion? Hi. I'm trying to discover what is going on with Orionserver. There are months that it's not updated. Anybody from the Orion team to give some news for us? []s Guilherme Ceschaitti On Thursday 04 January 2001 12:34, you wrote: This list has become awfully quiet. What's going on with Orion? There haven't been any new releases or bug fixes. Does anyone have any information? Perhaps, someone on the Orion team can give us an update. Personally, I'm getting a little concerned. Vidur
RE: Bad Timestamp Format
Different database engines use different formats for dates and times (and thus for timestamps). I had a similar problem converting a servlet from Interbase (which we used during development) to Oracle (used by our client in production). Possibly Postgress does not understand the difference to GMT you include. This could be either a design-feature or a bug (as you say you have a CVS version I would guess the latter if you were using an older version of Postgress before). I would take this up with the Postgress development team (if there is nothing about it in the documentation). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Seung R. Bang Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 10:18 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Bad Timestamp Format Hello, It's Christmas day 1:00 AM.. What am I doing? Working, trying to catch a bug... I changed some BMP beans to CMP beans. I upgraded the database server to PostgreSQL 7.1 which is a CVS version. My beans auto-created some tables when I started orion, which is good. Everything works fine. But if I rebuild the beans and redeploy them on site, the existing data wouldn't be read in. More specifically, timestamp field is not working correctly. Strangely enough, if I delete all the db table entries and retry, then it works fine again. I tried to fix the database schemas to switch java.sql.Timestamp and java.util.Date back and forth. But it was in vain. Any tip will be very much appreicated. Merry Christmas The error message follows: Nested exception is: Bad Timestamp Format at 19 in 2000-12-25 00:22:22.97GMT-08:00 at org.postgresql.jdbc2.ResultSet.getTimestamp(ResultSet.java:500) at MessageHome_EntityHomeWrapper5.findAllMessages(MessageHome_EntityHome Wrapper5.java:601) at com.freightstream.ejb.BoardManagerBean.getMessageList(BoardManagerBea n.java:81) at BoardManager_StatefulSessionBeanWrapper2.getMessageList(BoardManager_ StatefulSessionBeanWrapper2.java:304) at com.freightstream.tag.MessageIterator.doStartTag(MessageIterator.java :22) at __jspPage2_message_list_jsp._jspService(__jspPage2_message_list_jsp.j ava:50) at com.orionserver.http.OrionHttpJspPage.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.w5(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.JSPServlet.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.d1.si(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.d1.forward(JAX) at com.freightstream.servlet.Login.service(Login.java:44)
RE: Sun J2EE deployment tool and Orion
please no VBScripts... I will not run potential worms, no matter what your virusscanner (if that's what it is) says. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dominic Hanlan Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 14:57 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Sun J2EE deployment tool and Orion - (on the network) hanland.vcf was scanned and no virus found -
RE: www.orionserver.com down again
I agree that most problems people encounter are more likely caused by 1) their own applications, 2) their JVM or 3) their operating system. Just blaming one thing (the application server written by a small startup company) is easy, but you need to look on the complete picture. Also, running the management console in the same JVM as the Orion appserver itself makes the whole far less stable (I noticed this with 1.2.something). This is caused by generic weaknesses in Swing more than in any bad coding in the console itself. Better to just connect a console running on a remote machine and use that. As to linux stability (especially with Java), the figures confirm my suspicions that linux is not ready for primetime... I'm not using Orion for life sites myself (only for testing, corporate policy demands iPlanet and Websphere for deployment, but those are a bit heavy for running on a workstation). I've seen iPlanet running rockstable on one machine and go down very regularly on another running the same OS. The fault usually was either with the web application being run or with 3rd party software also running (like LDAP servers). Jeroen T. Wenting[EMAIL PROTECTED]Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:11To: Orion-InterestSubject: SV: www.orionserver.com down again In the year ive used orionserver and its site, i have only experienced downtime once? And when most of the reports og orion downtime comes it still answers to me.. Just to followup on stability :) I coded a wap site using windows nt 4 with jdk 1.3 beta (yepp it was before the RCs came :) and it still runs, the customer forgot the server and its been running for a whole year without problems, just a few days ago I stepped inside there and browsed some wap news and there wasnt problems with it... btw that server runs orion 0.8 or 0.6 something dont remember :) We are allso running a huge J2EE application with applets, jsps, ejbs (in production) and so on on the site im working on now with orion 1.4.0 and it is very stable for us. Our problems with stability is that some strange threaad issue when using JNDI from orion in the java plugin (IE and NS crash on us) but uptime on orionserver is very good. Klaus Myrseth -Opprinnelig melding-Fra: Hitesh Jasani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sendt: 14. desember 2000 08:21Til: Orion-InterestEmne: Re: www.orionserver.com down againThanks for the link! You've got to be a little careful interpreting the results though. If I read it correctly, the current moving average for uptime for the www.orionserver.com linux box is around 20 days. However, there are no numbers for the average amount of time that the Orion server on that host is actually up and available. This data is more a measure of the stability of the operating system than whatever web server is running on it. At least that's my take but I'd like to hear other people's opinions. Thanks, Hitesh Jeff Schnitzer wrote: An interesting graph can be found here: http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?display=uptimesite=www.orionserver.com (sorry about the previous chopped message) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip]
RE: Off topic: development tools
JBuilder is an excellent tool, especially version 4. Previous versions suffered from relatively poor performance and were prone to craching due to the JVM leaking memory at an alarming rate. While no problem with JBuilder per se, it did mean that JBuilder fell behind in the polls compared to IDEs that are not pure Java. JDeveloper is indeed based on JBuilder, but on a very early version (2.0 I think, maybe even 1.0). I do not think the current version should be seen as a direct clone of current JBuilder versions. I am using JBuilder for creating all kinds of Java apps, but not EJBs. We use iPlanet webserver for deployment which does not support EJB, so I would have nowhere to run them :) I tried getting Orion into the organization here but corporate standards say iPlanet and Websphere... Ant is not an IDE, but rather a replacement for ye olde make. You could look at Forte, but it is designed more for Swing GUIs with little support for serverside apps, and suffers heavily from memory bloat and leakage. If anyone knows who currently markets Visual Cafe? I cannot recommend Visual Age for Java. It is huge, slow and a resource hog (better not use it on any machine with 256MB RAM, more is better). Also, I personally find the interface highly confusing and unintuitive. It is also linked more or less completely with Websphere alone. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 12:03 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Off topic: development tools Hello everybody, I am in the process of selecting an IDE for developing J2EE applications on Orion. I would appreciate any advice on the subject. I've noticed from emails that JBuilder is quite popular. Other contenders that I know off are: Visual Café, JDeveloper (Oracle flavour of JBuilder), public domain tools like Ant, etc. The features I am mainly interested in are: ability to develop for different Apps Servers, visual debugging, validation of conformance with specifications (e.g. for EJBs). I will be grateful for your comments and recommendations. Thanks, Jarek Skreta winmail.dat
RE: Off topic: development tools
I just don't like it. I've used it for several months, and the C++ version for a year and could not get the hang of it. The logic IBM uses is beyond me, maybe. Also, the frequeny crashes and appalling performance didn't do any good. Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2000 15:15 To: Orion-Interest Subject: AW: Off topic: development tools Hello, I am using VisualAge for Java. It has a nice integration of external APIs and Applicationservers. Visual Debuging and an integrated VCS are supported. You have access to every project without loading it manually... Mario -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 11. Dezember 2000 12:03 An: Orion-Interest Betreff: Off topic: development tools Hello everybody, I am in the process of selecting an IDE for developing J2EE applications on Orion. I would appreciate any advice on the subject. I've noticed from emails that JBuilder is quite popular. Other contenders that I know off are: Visual Café, JDeveloper (Oracle flavour of JBuilder), public domain tools like Ant, etc. The features I am mainly interested in are: ability to develop for different Apps Servers, visual debugging, validation of conformance with specifications (e.g. for EJBs). I will be grateful for your comments and recommendations. Thanks, Jarek Skreta winmail.dat
RE: Anyone heard from evermind?
I'm not sure what it is, but everything is quiet. There is almost no traffic on the official Sun lists also. Maybe .NET is having a bigger impact than we all expected it would have... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Klaus Thiele Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:29 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Anyone heard from evermind? Robert Krueger wrote: Hi fellow orion users, is it just my imagination or have things become VERY quiet around evermind? I haven't seen a post on this forum in quite some time now VRY quiet! (ok, it's a community forum but they used to drop in from time to time), no bug status that I registered for notification has changed and no new developer versions of orion. before I'm the 100th person/customer to bombard the support address with "what's up" type of mails, does anyone know what they're up to/working on. i'm very interested in this too! let's bomb together ;) klaus -- Klaus Thiele - Personal Informatik AG mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "There's got to be more to life than compile-and-go."
RE: OFFTOPIC: Making a page expired
response.setHeader("CACHE-CONTROL", "max-age=0, must-revalidate");
will do the trick.
Jeroen T. Wenting
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Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Krevs
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 05:37
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: OFFTOPIC: Making a page expired
I am trying to get the browser to display the "this page has expired"
message when the user hits the Back button on the browser.
We have the luxury? of only needing to support IE5.5. No matter what meta
tags i use I cant seem to get the browser to display the standard
"this page
has expired" message.
This is especially important in the situation where the user's session has
expired and the user then uses the back button and tries to click on a
hyperlink on the old page.
Any ideas?
RE: JetSpeed
thanks. I'll give that a try. It's probably the reason why it does work with Tomcat, as Tomcat uses the global classpath... Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 10:20 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JetSpeed The error is as stated "could not find package in import: org.apache.cocoon.*, org.w3c.dom.*, etc...). I tried putting all jars in /orion/lib, web-app/WEB-INF/lib and even putting them all in both locations. It happens when accessing XSP only (as far as I can tell), the frontpage displays correctly for example. the above problem arises when the java compiler is called on a XSP-generated source file (XSP is Cocoons equivalent to JSP, and Jetspeed uses Cocoon). This is done by forking a new process which does not inherit the (implicit) classpath of your web app. You will have to put all the jars required for the compile somewhere in the global classpath HTH
RE: JetSpeed
the directory where the logfile should go must exist. You should create the directory or change the turbine configuration in the jetspeed config files to point to an existing directory (the same goes for cache directories, etc). Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sven van 't Veer Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:58 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JetSpeed "J.T. Wenting" wrote: using Js 1.2b1, which works fine on Tomcat 3.1 (at least it does not throw any errors, the generated HTML is not always as it should be and there seems to be a gaping memory leak). The error is as stated "could not find package in import: org.apache.cocoon.*, org.w3c.dom.*, etc...). I tried putting all jars in /orion/lib, web-app/WEB-INF/lib and even putting them all in both locations. It happens when accessing XSP only (as far as I can tell), the frontpage displays correctly for example. For me, putting the Jetspeed jars in /orion/lib gives me the following error when calling http://hostname/servlet/jetspeed java.io.FileNotFoundException: /tmp/turbine.log (O sistema não pode localizar o caminho especificado) at java.io.FileOutputStream.openAppend(Native Method) at java.io.FileOutputStream.init(FileOutputStream.java:100) at java.io.FileWriter.init(FileWriter.java:39) at org.apache.turbine.util.Log.init(Log.java:112) at org.apache.turbine.util.Log.clinit(Log.java:102) at org.apache.turbine.services.TurbineServices.getService(TurbineServ ices.java:115) at org.apache.turbine.services.resources.TurbineResourceService.setPr opertiesFileName(TurbineResourceService.java:107) at Turbine.init(Turbine.java:120) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.wo(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.v6(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.uh(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.ed.sp(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.ed.so(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX, Compiled Code) DbBrokerImpl: Is now turned on. java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.apache.jetspeed.turbine.navigations.JetspeedTopNavigation.cli nit(JetspeedTopNavigation.java) at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java, Compiled Code) at org.apache.turbine.modules.NavigationLoader.getInstance(Navigation Loader.java, Compiled Code) at org.apache.turbine.modules.NavigationLoader.eval(NavigationLoader. java:118) at org.apache.jetspeed.turbine.layouts.JetspeedLayout.build(JetspeedL ayout.java:86) at org.apache.turbine.modules.LayoutLoader.exec(LayoutLoader.java:111) at org.apache.turbine.modules.pages.DefaultPage.build(DefaultPage.java:88) at org.apache.turbine.modules.PageLoader.exec(PageLoader.java:111) at Turbine.doGet(Turbine.java, Compiled Code) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java) at com.evermind.server.http.d1.si(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.d1.forward(JAX) -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
RE: help...servlet claspath
I think he means the classpath not for servlets but for external resources like beans. The default place for this is /orion/lib and web-app/WEB-INF/classes, but is it possible to set other locations and if so, how to do it? Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sven van 't Veer Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 14:29 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: help...servlet claspath Edmund Cheung wrote: Hi, In weblogic, I defined the servlet classpath in the weblogic properties file as follow; weblogic.httpd.servlet.classpath=D:/weblogic/myserver/servletclasses weblogic.httpd.register.UserManagerController=servlet.UserManagerC ontroller In my jsp, I call thsi servlet name form method="post" action="/UserManagerController" In Orion, I defined the following in web.xml but where should I define the classpath for servlet ? servlet servlet-nameUserManagerController/servlet-name descriptionUser manager controller/description servlet-classservlet.UserManagerController/servlet-class .. /servlet Thanks reagrds, Edmund Actually you don't have to do anything in Orion. Just putting the classfile for the servlen in orion/applications/your_app/your_app-web/WEB-INF/classes makes the servlet available to Orion by calling: http://localhost/servlet/YourServlet sven -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
RE: JetSpeed
I asked the same question last week and got no response. There seems to be a versioning problem between Jetspeed and the Orion XML stuff. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sven van 't Veer Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 13:05 To: Orion-Interest Subject: JetSpeed Is there anyone who has gotten Jetspeed to work under Orion ?? sven -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
RE: JetSpeed
I got as far as bringing up the mainpage (so http://localhost/servlet/jetspeed). When trying anything XSP, I get a 500, saying the XSP compiler cannot find a whole host of stuff, including Cocoon, XML parsers, and Jetspeed... The servlet must have found all that because it uses it all itself. Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sven van 't Veer Sent: 16 November 2000 17:01 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JetSpeed "J.T. Wenting" wrote: I asked the same question last week and got no response. There seems to be a versioning problem between Jetspeed and the Orion XML stuff. My problem seems to be that it cannot find some of the Turbine stuff. http://server/servlet/jetspeed produces a blank page. Have you got any further ?? sven -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
RE: servlet properties
the equivalent is web.xml in your-web-app/WEB-INF Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Squires Sent: 16 November 2000 15:18 To: Orion-Interest Subject: servlet properties Hi, Could someone point me towards the documentation for the equivalent of JServ's servlet.properties? Thanks for your time, Tim. Tim Squires Wireless Data Services It's not what you know, it's who you tell.
RE: JetSpeed
Title: RE: JetSpeed Turbine comes with Jetspeed. It is installed as part of the Jetspeed installation... Jeroen T Wenting[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ UIN #9191966It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry VelezSent: 16 November 2000 19:24To: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: JetSpeed Here is a link to turbine. http://www.blue-pac.com/linuxturbine/ -Larry -Original Message- From: Sven van 't Veer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:01 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JetSpeed "J.T. Wenting" wrote: I asked the same question last week and got no response. There seems to be a versioning problem between Jetspeed and the Orion XML stuff. My problem seems to be that it cannot find some of the Turbine stuff. http://server/servlet/jetspeed produces a blank page. Have you got any further ?? sven -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
RE: JetSpeed
using Js 1.2b1, which works fine on Tomcat 3.1 (at least it does not throw any errors, the generated HTML is not always as it should be and there seems to be a gaping memory leak). The error is as stated "could not find package in import: org.apache.cocoon.*, org.w3c.dom.*, etc...). I tried putting all jars in /orion/lib, web-app/WEB-INF/lib and even putting them all in both locations. It happens when accessing XSP only (as far as I can tell), the frontpage displays correctly for example. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 00:19 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JetSpeed You really should post the error messages/stacktraces (here or on the Jetspeed list), so we can help you better. also, what version of JS are you running. JS is not in a very stable state currently. - Original Message - From: "J.T. Wenting" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:12 PM Subject: RE: JetSpeed I got as far as bringing up the mainpage (so http://localhost/servlet/jetspeed). When trying anything XSP, I get a 500, saying the XSP compiler cannot find a whole host of stuff, including Cocoon, XML parsers, and Jetspeed... The servlet must have found all that because it uses it all itself. Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sven van 't Veer Sent: 16 November 2000 17:01 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JetSpeed "J.T. Wenting" wrote: I asked the same question last week and got no response. There seems to be a versioning problem between Jetspeed and the Orion XML stuff. My problem seems to be that it cannot find some of the Turbine stuff. http://server/servlet/jetspeed produces a blank page. Have you got any further ?? sven -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
RE: JDK1.3 and deb. linux
there is an incompatibility between Debian and the JDK (any JDK I tried). The lib is there, but is not found for some reason. I installed Helix-gnome and the problem went away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jostein Martinsen Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 13:01 To: Orion-Interest Subject: JDK1.3 and deb. linux Help ! When i try to start orionserver i get this msg: "error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" I'm running the newest version of Debian Linux and Sun:s jdk1.3 ''' Jostein Martinsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP keys fingerprint. Ensure my keys validity! E2CF AF07 B50C 7A99 8EFB 23EA 1D0D E462 CE6B 551C ''
RE: Question about use default-charset=gb2312
and please set your mailclient to send plain-text and not to use Chinese encoding. Most people do not have Chinese encoding installed and get annoying popups :) Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of henry zhou Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 09:57 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Question about use default-charset="gb2312" on orion development="true" and default-charset="gb2312" can't display some Chinese letter
RE: orion server works with jdk 1.3???
check and doublecheck (goes for *nix too). For example Oracle installs its own JVM without asking or telling you. If you choose custom setup you will see 1.1.7 in the list of installed items, but removing it from the install has no effect,it is still installed... This caught us by surprise once, installing Oracle left all our Java2 stuff inoperable :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arved Sandstrom Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 13:58 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: orion server works with jdk 1.3??? General Windoze rule of thumb, particularly when handling different versions of the same thing...always install your target version after uninstalling the other. Arved Sandstrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Krueger Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:50 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: orion server works with jdk 1.3??? At 09:16 14.11.00 , you wrote: hi, I used to work with orion server with jdk 1.2.2. Recently I installed jdk 1.3 and uninstalled jdk 1.2.2. Now I am not able to start orion server. I get the error message saying that could not find version number 1.3 for jre in program files/java soft/jre. any idea? has nothing to do with orion. it's something with your registry being screwed up by installing/uninstalling, typical M$ problem. I've had that a ages ago but don't remember the solution :-(. robert thanks in advance. krishna _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. (-) Robert Krüger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
RE: orion server works with jdk 1.3???
more likely. Orion runs just fine on Suns 1.3 :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam Cassar Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 14:10 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: orion server works with jdk 1.3??? or do you mean ibm's jdk1.3 crashes? :) On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 01:51:50PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I work with SUN's jdk1.3 (with server Hotspot )on Win200, but Orion crashes with IBM's jdk1.3. Bernshtam Pavel 053-398944 Certified Java 2 Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] M.Sc. student at CS department, BGU[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~barnshte http://www.enow.comA million minds a minute! -Original Message- From: Robert Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:50 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: orion server works with jdk 1.3??? At 09:16 14.11.00 , you wrote: hi, I used to work with orion server with jdk 1.2.2. Recently I installed jdk 1.3 and uninstalled jdk 1.2.2. Now I am not able to start orion server. I get the error message saying that could not find version number 1.3 for jre in program files/java soft/jre. any idea? has nothing to do with orion. it's something with your registry being screwed up by installing/uninstalling, typical M$ problem. I've had that a ages ago but don't remember the solution :-(. robert thanks in advance. krishna _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. (-) Robert Krüger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
RE: EJB Basics
WEB-INF contains servlets and other classfiles, META-INF contains EJB deployment descriptors and such-like. Neither are specific to Orion, but you will never see META-INF in Tomcat because Tomcat does not use EJB (and so has no need for anything you'd put in META-INF). Jeroen T Wenting[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ UIN #9191966It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark A. RichmanSent: 14 November 2000 19:01To: Orion-InterestSubject: EJB Basics What is the difference between WEB-INF and META-INF? How do these directory structures relate to jar, ear, and war files? Which of these is J2EE, and which is Orion-specific? Maybe I am confusing something with Tomcat... - Mark
RE: Jetspeed
I now
have the servlet running on Oracle, but I cannot use the XSP functions. When
trying to compile XSP, cocoonPortlet hands out an error from the XSP compiler
about not being able to find a bunch of packages:
org.apache.cocoon.parser
org.apache.cocoon.producer
org.apache.cocoon.framework
org.apache.cocoon.processor.xsp
org.apache.cocoon.processor.xsp.library
org.apache.turbine.util
org.apache.jetspeed.daemon
org.w3c.dom
org.xml.sax
etc...
Anyone
know what to do to solve this?
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J.T.
WentingSent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 14:10To:
Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Jetspeed
Thanks, I'd appreciate that. I haven't got that working correctly with
Orion either :)
Jetspeed is Apache's personalization framework, I am getting "package
not found in import for SAX and DOM classes. xerces.jar and xalan.jar
(versions supplied with Jetspeed) are in /orion/lib, so should be picked up.
For some reason they are not, leading to errors compiling XSP apps. Jetspeed
(Turbine really, but that is what Jetspeed uses internally) sadly refuses to
work with Interbase. This is a problem not with Interbase byt with Turbine (it
refuses to even try to connect).
Jeroen T. Wenting[EMAIL PROTECTED]Murphy
was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wim
veningaSent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:57To:
Orion-InterestSubject: Re: JetspeedHi
Jeroen,
I have no problems using Interbase for both BMP and CMP. I can sent you
the database-schema for interbase if you want.
Greetings Wim Veninga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"J.T. Wenting" wrote:
Has anyone got Jetspeed 1.2 to run on Orion? I
keep getting errors instantiating caches (or so it seems). Hints
appreciated. For the moment I am using Oracle 8i as a database (would
like to use Interbase, but that is not supported, getting errors if I
try).
Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will
anyway
RE: Jetspeed
Thanks, I'd appreciate that. I haven't got that working correctly with Orion either :) Jetspeed is Apache's personalization framework, I am getting "package not found in import for SAX and DOM classes. xerces.jar and xalan.jar (versions supplied with Jetspeed) are in /orion/lib, so should be picked up. For some reason they are not, leading to errors compiling XSP apps. Jetspeed (Turbine really, but that is what Jetspeed uses internally) sadly refuses to work with Interbase. This is a problem not with Interbase byt with Turbine (it refuses to even try to connect). Jeroen T. Wenting[EMAIL PROTECTED]Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wim veningaSent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:57To: Orion-InterestSubject: Re: JetspeedHi Jeroen, I have no problems using Interbase for both BMP and CMP. I can sent you the database-schema for interbase if you want. Greetings Wim Veninga [EMAIL PROTECTED] "J.T. Wenting" wrote: Has anyone got Jetspeed 1.2 to run on Orion? I keep getting errors instantiating caches (or so it seems). Hints appreciated. For the moment I am using Oracle 8i as a database (would like to use Interbase, but that is not supported, getting errors if I try). Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
RE: Non-Commercial
Title: Non-Commercial development certainly (as it explicitly says so). For the rest (please give an official statement) non-commercial usually means non-profit organizations and educational use. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lee, Se HeeSent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 23:42To: Orion-InterestSubject: Non-Commercial Sorry for stupid question... Anyway, it seems like Orion server is free for non-commercial usage Does that mean that for non-profit organizational use, it's free??? or is it for development license? Se Hee
RE: SSL
They are sent encrypted. The URL will contain them in plain-text though, which is how they will appear in serverlogs. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christophe Hartwig Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 09:03 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: SSL If I have an ssl connection using https://myserver/myresource?username=myloginpassword=mypassword Are the parameters username and password encrypted or is this available in clear text? Encrypted, definitely: the socket is encrypted by SSL, so everything is. Bye Christophe
Jetspeed
Has anyone got Jetspeed 1.2 to run on Orion? I keep getting errors instantiating caches (or so it seems). Hints appreciated. For the moment I am using Oracle 8i as a database (would like to use Interbase, but that is not supported, getting errors if I try). Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
RE: jsp problem
what others? This encoding string is buggy, if someone supports it, he probably ignores it rather than using it... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lars Hoss Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:25 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: jsp problem hi! yup, you are right. i have tested the servlet with konqueror. nevertheless i wonder why all other servlet/jsp engines work well with konqueror? yours, lars Am Montag 06 November 2000 15:29 schrieben Sie: I've seen a similar problem, which only seems to happen when using the KDE2.0 Konquerer browser in my case though. On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Lars Hoss wrote: hi all! i wrote a very simple http servlet that overrides the doGet method. this method simply tries to obtain a PrintWriter object through response.getWriter(). the problem is that the servlet failes with an "UnsupportedEncodingException"? the exception says that the encoding "iso8859-1;q=1.0" is not supported by the Sun JVM. what can i do? thanks for your help in advance. yours, lars
RE: Forcing servlet declarations
remove the classes? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Russ White Sent: 07 November 2000 20:25 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Forcing servlet declarations I have several apps the share common libraries. Some apps I want to execute some servlets in the library but not others. Is there a way to keep a web-app from executing arbitrary servlets?1 Ordinarily http://yourserver.com/servlet/class will execute class as long as it is in the classpath and has no security restraints that are unresolved. I want only servlets that are declared in the web.xml file to be executed. Is there a way to do this? I tried removing the servlet-webdir attribute for the orion-web-app tag, but no dice. Anything else I can try? Thanks, Russ
RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!
JDeveloper is based on JBuilder 2, if I am correct. Back then there were no EJBs... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Kwiatek Sent: 07 November 2000 20:48 To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way Does anyone know if jdeveloper (which is based on Jbuilder) has the same functionality? Keith - Original Message - From: Cory Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way JBuilder 4 Enterprise allows you do build Entity CMP beans this way. You can connect to a datasource and then select tables and keys for your beans. It's wild. I'm still getting used to it. Can anybody else with more experience using this tool give us a little insight? Thanks, Cory At 10:34 AM 11/7/03 -0500, Keith Kwiatek wrote: Hello, EJB's are great if you like tripling the amount of code you have to write How is everyone building their web apps with hand coded programs, or using automagic tools? It sure seems like there should be some sort of tool that you can just point at database tables, and have it build the jsp or ejb entity bean. AND shouldn't there be a tool that you can just drop the bean on an html template thus allowing visual access to the bean fields? You can't access ejb's directly from a jsp page (like a normal bean) can you? Any tools that will automagically wrap an ejb in a bean for presentation in a JSP? Am I off base here, or are ejb's a lot more work? How can people talk about how EJB's "speed development time"?!? Keith
RE: Beginner: Step by step tutorial?
http://www.novocode.com/doc/servlet-essentials/ gives a good intro into servlets (though I think the O'Reilly book is better). As to not using JDBC, I don't think so (unless you write your own... which would be reinventing JDBC). JDBC is good, why not use it? Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winnie Leung Sent: 03 November 2000 18:31 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Beginner: Step by step tutorial? HI, I am a total beginner to Orion (and somewhat of a beginner to Java). I would be really grateful if some one could point me to a really beginner's step-by-step tutorial on how to write a servlet, to do standard web type stuff like (a) post form variables, and (b) access data from the database (oracle -- is there a way to use OCI directly, instead of JDBC?) Thanks very much in advance, Winnie
RE: instantDB
I've used the two together, but not through Orion datasources (anyone got Interbase 6 working and can give me some help? I get errors whenever I upgrade Orion when Orion tries to create some tables). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vidur Dhanda Sent: 28 October 2000 07:34 To: Orion-Interest Subject: instantDB Hello, Has anyone successfully used instantDB with orion? I've been trying to test the latest version of instantDB but can't get the schema.xml file right. For the datasources.xml, I pretty much used the HypersonicSQL entries and changed the URL and driver names. Vidur
RE: rumors
I've seen companies buy out a competitor just so they can remove their products from the market... The fact that it turned up in Bugzilla was a very good indication for me it was a joke :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Kwiatek Sent: 27 October 2003 13:53 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: rumors Probably not... but you know sooner or later someone is going to buy Orion... and the product price will NOT remain anywhere near $1500 OR be "free" to non-commercial projects !! I like Orion, but for projects on a budget, I think it is safer and less costly to maybe go with http://www.ejboss.org/ or http://www.evidian.com/jonas/index.htm. These are dedicated "open source" ejb servers hh if only Orion would open source. Admittedly, I don't know how the above ejb servers compare to orion. I know they don't have servlets/jsp... but then there is the open source free resin... Keith - Original Message - From: Frank Kettenbeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 4:51 AM Subject: rumors is this a rumor or a joke ? just found it on bugzilla of Orionserver.com... as a headline "BEA Closes Acquisition of Orion - The transaction is valued at approximately DM 582 million (US$283 million). "
RE: Starting thread when Orion starts
You can create a servlet that starts the thread in its init(), then set the servlet to be initialised on server startup. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aleksi Kallio Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 12:57 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Starting thread when Orion starts I have a thread that needs to be running when Orion is up. How to implement it so that it automatically starts when Orion is started (ie. how Orion informs its bootup)?
RE: Orion in production
Apparently, and this is a definite (sic) Windows NT 4/2000 with a dual-processor running Java out-performs a Linux box of the same spec running Java. Originally, the project was trialled to run on Linux, but it was discovered that NT 4 was faster!!! Has anyone else had any experience of this? I was told that it was due to better MP support in NT 4/2000??? I have also seen Windows outperform linux when doing Java. I do not think it is the MP code, but rather the JVM which is far better optimised on Windows (especially multithreading is handled more efficiently, which does a lot in server applications). When people say java is faster on linux they invariably talk about IBM 1.3 with Hotspot being faster than 1.2 on Windows without Hotspot. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
RE: Orion in production
Very narrow range of top-level domains. No European or Asian domains at all... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Eggink Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 14:09 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production I don't know what's the downside of believing these statistics. On http://www.netcraft.com: click on 'what's that site running' click on 'help' click on 'range' click on 'Index' (of Sept 2000 of course) Hit Ctrl-F and search for orion. It tells you 1238 servers are running orion. (If you want your boss to go ahead with orion, don't show him number 5 on the list!) Frank On Friday, October 20, 2000 12:38 PM, Sven van 't Veer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. www.cachoeiro.net www.snpc.com.br -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
RE: ALTERNATIVES TO JDK1.3
I'm still using 1.2.2 for all my development, if only because we need to deploy to platforms that have no 1.3 available. Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Sierra Fernandez Sent: 19 October 2000 20:52 To: Orion-Interest Subject: ALTERNATIVES TO JDK1.3 Could you tell me if there is an alternative compiler to jdk 1.3? I'm looking for other compilers but they should compile all my middleware components (servlets, JSPs,EJBs,JavaBeans) TIA -- Sierr@ --
RE: JSP-Compiled Servlets ??
you can see the generated sources by setting "development=true" in one of the config files (I think either server.xml or global-web-application.xml). -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Santosh KumarSent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 10:49To: Orion-InterestSubject: JSP-Compiled Servlets ?? hi all, Weknow that JSP are compiled into servlets. In Jrun, I canview the equivalent servlet source code for the JSP. ButOrion doesnt seem to provide the source as well as class file. All it creates is a binary jsp.Cache file. But my job is to get into the code and see how the servlet is getting written and compare with servlets generated thru other jsp-engines. What do i do? Regards, Santosh Santosh Kumar C == Senior Systems Engineer == Wipro Technologies == 1-8-448, Laxmi Building, S.P. Road, == Begumpet, Secunderabad - 500 003 == A.P, India. == Phone@: 91407896008 Ext 4511 == Fax @: 91407896123 == eMail@: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == url @: http://www.wipro.com == The World's First SEI CMM Level 5 Software Services Company
RE: Kawa Enterprise Edition 5.0
it is not mentioned in the documentation to support anything beyond WebLogic
and the RI that ships with J2EE.
Please ask Tek-tools directly and keep us informed.
Jeroen T. Wenting
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Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
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Subject: Kawa Enterprise Edition 5.0
Hello:
Dose Kawa Enterprise Edition 5.0 support Orion J2EE server ??
Thanks in advance.
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RE: Does Orion have an FTP service?
it would also allow the service to be used by people behind firewalls that
block ftp (there are a lot of those, either by design or accident (read
faulty installation or software)).
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Rimmer
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 05:43
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Does Orion have an FTP service?
Why bother FTP'ing the file? Not only is the file sent cleartext
("orders" sound like they make include credit card info, etc.) but it's
also one more system (and another daemon, e.g. security concerns) to
write and support. Just make the file accessible via password protected
HTTPS. That would make it not only secure but also utilize existing
Orion's functionality.
Neville Burnell wrote:
Hi,
Does orion have an FTP service?
If not does anyone know of a good Java FTP server that might be used
with orion?
We are looking at downloading files created by our J2EE App running
on Orion [basically online orders] to a remote sales order system for
subsequent processing. AutoFTP from Primasoft
(http://www.primasoft.com/ftp.htm) looks good for automating the
download, but Orion doesn't have an FTP service [or does it?]
How do other Orion sites handle FTP ?
TIA
Neville Burnell
Business Manager Software
--
Jason Rimmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: URGENT! jsp file size limit
Looks like your resultset becomes too large to fit in the memory-structure used to store it. This is more likely a restriction in the Java runtime than in the application server. Have you tried running it on other appservers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Savotchkin Egor Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 07:59 To: Orion-Interest Subject: URGENT! jsp file size limit Hi all! Orion seems to have jsp file size limit, when my analog of the ScreenDefinitions.jsp from Pet Store grows beyond this limit orion issues: 500 Internal Server Error Error parsing JSP page /visitor/visitor.html Error creating jsp-page instance: java.lang.VerifyError: (class: __jspPage0_template_jsp, method: _jspService signature: (Ljavax/servlet/http/HttpServletRequest;Ljavax/servlet/http/HttpSe rvletRespo nse;)V) Illegal target of jump or branch Egor Savotchkin
RE: JSPs and Linux/UNIX permissions
Not with Orion (don't use that on unix, corporate standard is iPlanet and Websphere), but we've had problems that JSPs were not compiled when no execute rights had been set on them for the user used by the server. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vincent Chen Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 20:28 To: Orion-Interest Subject: JSPs and Linux/UNIX permissions ALL, (I just posted this as a "bug", but perhaps, it's just a bad setting.) Has anyone run into JSPs file-permissions issues w/ UNIX? Thanks. Definition: ORIONDIR - The distribution directory that contains orion.jar, etc. DEPLOYMENTDIR - The deployment directory that holds the config, application, document root, application, application-deployment, etc. Our goal is to divorce ORIONDIR from DEPLOYMENTDIR completely, to minimize upgrade headaches. ORIONDIR is read-only DEPLOYMENTDIR is writeable for "root" With this setup, start the server as "root": cd $ORIONDIR; java -jar orion.jar -config $DEPLOYMENTDIR/config/server.xml This results in access errors when the server try to generate the temporary .java files for .jsp pages. We have to give write permission just to $ORIONDIR (not any of its subdirectories) for the server to process JSPs correctly. It seems that the server is trying to generate the .java files directly in $ORIONDIR, and ignoring any temporary-directory settings for orion-web-app in global-web- application.xml -vince Vincent Chen eRIDE 363 Brannan Street San Francisco, CA 94107 (415) 369-9880 x215 [EMAIL PROTECTED] eRIDE - Driving Business http://www.eride.com
RE: Can't create xxxxx.jsp.jspCache files
the cache is in /orion/application-deployments/application-name/persistence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 08:40 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Can't create x.jsp.jspCache files Hi All... When we run Orion under Debian Linux as user orion where orion has permission to write into its directory tree, an attempt to create the JSP files x.jsp.jspCache fails (permission denied). If we run Orion as root, it runs fine and creates the files, which persist. If we then run orion again as user orion, the JSP examples that we ran when Orion was root run fine, indicating that Orion, when running as user orion, can at least read these files. So, my question is, exactly what does Orion do and where does it write when it makes those xxx.jsp.jspCache files? If we know this, we should be able to configure our system to give Orion the correct permissions. Thanks... Jim
RE: What database are you using??
For serious (i.e. mission critical, large) projects, use Oracle, DB2 or Sybase. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mikko Kurki-Suonio Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 07:51 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: What database are you using?? On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Jim Archer wrote: I'm currious to know what database products people are using with Orion, open source or commerical. Also, please include any comments about problems if you have had any, or anything thats really great. Actually, we're right now in the process of evaluating DB products for a "serious" production environment. HyperSonic works fine for quick tests, but I don't feel like using it for really important stuff. So far: InterBase 6.0 for Linux. Trouble mapping the "long" datatype. Prone to spurious crashes/deadlocks. SOLID: Again, Orion refuses to map "long" correctly. Otherwise it seems to work fine. //Mikko
RE: What database are you using??
Using Orion with Interbase and Oracle for development, iPlanet and Oracle for deployment (corporate choice, I'm a lowly developer). Problem with Interbase is that several column names used in the autocreated tables Orion makes during deployment are actually reserved words (like password). As we don't use EJB (another corporate choice, having to do with yet another corporate choice to switch to Websphere which has very poor EJB support in the future) that's not really a problem (yet). Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer Sent: 30 September 2000 02:44 To: Orion-Interest Subject: What database are you using?? Hi All... I'm currious to know what database products people are using with Orion, open source or commerical. Also, please include any comments about problems if you have had any, or anything thats really great. Thanks! Jim
RE: Online Orion Support
AFAIK this is it... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SanjaySent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 11:11To: Orion-InterestSubject: Online Orion Support Hello there , Is there any online Orion support available? We have alicensed verison of Orionbut still i am unable to get support. thank you Cheers
RE: 413 Request Entity Too Large
please turn of capslock... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SanjaySent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:20To: Orion-InterestCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 413 Request Entity Too Large ERROR DUE TO oRION BUG USE LATEST VERSION - Original Message - From: Mike Cannon-Brookes To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 9:59 AM Subject: 413 Request Entity Too Large Sometimes I get this as the result of a jsp page "413 Request Entity Too Large" Reloading seems to fix it - why does this occur? Is it an Orion bug or a malformed request? Surely the former if reloading fixes it? Network problem? Mike Mike Cannon-Brookes - Associate Editor, Australiainternet.com Corporation - The Internet Industry Portal Ph: (612) 9251 3397 - Mob: 0416 106090 - The Media Network @ http://australia.internet.com- Meet A Guru @ http://www.breakfastforums.com.au- Subscribe Online @ http://www.enewsletters.com.au
RE: Looking for Fellow Programmers
would be nice, would it? Sadly he did not include an email address where people can send to :) Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: 13 September 2000 18:22 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Looking for Fellow Programmers hey, I dont think the initial offer is a problem (what better place to meet J2EE programmers), but why dont you carry on your dealings via private email?
RE: Run Orion on port80 without being root?
you could have 2 servers (one on port 80 and one somewhere else) with the one on port 80 forwarding all requests to the other one. Maybe not the prettiest solution, but it might work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sach Jobb Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 09:00 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Run Orion on port80 without being root? Idealy that is what i'm looking for: basically having it start up as root and then switching the process over to another user (like apache does). In our dev env this isn't a problem because they use non-priv ports, but there's just something about seeing a billboard with an add like: "come visit us at our new web site www.bigcompany.com:8092" that just doesn't have quite the right ring to it. ;) What's the theory behind using the JNI code? I'm not familiar with it. cheers, sach %s/windows/linux/g On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, John Barrett wrote: In *nix systems, there isnt a solution except to startup as root and then change to another user/group, like Apache does. I dont think that Java has the ability to manipulate its UID/GID without JNI code. - Original Message - From: Sach Jobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 1:11 PM Subject: Run Orion on port80 without being root? Has anyone found a way of running Orion on port80 without being root? I'm getting ready to launch a finance based site and i'm quite concerned about security. I've seen messages like this posted before but i have yet to see any kind of resolution. Any ideas? cheers, sach %s/windows/linux/g
RE: JBuilder 4
It has been announced, not released. I expect the official release at the upcoming BorCon Europe in London on the 24th. Borland usually has an announcement before the official unveiling, and does the latter at a BorCon somewhere (London happens to be the next one). Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sven van 't Veer Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 13:36 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JBuilder 4 Cory Adams wrote: JBuilder 4.0 just came out and the Enterprise edition will let you develop fully J2EE compliant apps. Does anybody have any experience using this version of JBuilder 4 and Orion? Well, since it's 'just out' it will be hard to find anyone with experience. However, since you can debug j2ee apps in JBuilder-Orion with JB 3.5, I guess it will be possible with JBuilder 4 too. sven -- == Sven van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
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I am currently receiving 2 copies of each message... Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe)
RE: Is this list moderated?
nope. But sometimes it takes a while for some reason(or maybe you sent them to the wrong address??) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ismael Blesa Part Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 15:31 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Is this list moderated? I have written several mails and not all of them has been sent on the list. Is this list moderated by someone?
RE: URLs in web apps
and even correctly closed ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Clark Sent: 02 September 2000 17:41 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: URLs in web apps Indeed it is. Mike Kevin Duffey wrote: HI, Is that a HTML 4.0 tag? I never saw that one before. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Clark Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:48 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: URLs in web apps Alternatively, you could use this syntax... html head base href="%= request.getContextPath() %" / /head body a href="file.jsp"click/a /body In general, the servlet engine automatically maps the directory name to the application, but references to URLs from standard HTML tags are not automatically mapped. When the base href tag is used, all relative URLs are resolved relative to this value. If your application is mapped to the directory "myapp", then in the example above the href would reference "/myapp/file.jsp". Mike Kevin Duffey wrote: I think your ok..but I use the request.getContextPath() in a "included" header file on all my JSP pages. I assign it to a contextPath string var and use it in all my href tags a href="%= contextPath %/path/file.jsp"click/a But, I believe the spec allows relative paths to the root of the web app. So, if your root is /, and the dir is i3-web, and you have a linke to /path/page.jsp, it would be from /i3-web/path/page.jsp. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kurt Hoyt Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:31 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: URLs in web apps I've noticed an inconsistency in how URLs are used within the servlet engine in Orion. Perhaps I've never had to deal with this since this is the first servlet engine I've used that supports .war files, server.xml, web.xml files, etc. I have a web app that is deployed like this: server.xml contains this line: application name="i3" path="../i3"/ default-web-site.xml contains this line: web-app application="i3" name="i3-web" root="/i3"/ application.xml contains these lines: /module web web-urii3-web/web-uri context-root//context-root /web /module I expect that absolute URLs used anywhere in my JSPs (and that includes a href="..", %@ include file="..." %, and response.sendRedirect() calls) would look like this /i3/rest of URL. However, I've noticed that for anything other than a href="..." tags, the /i3 is implied and all I need is /rest of URL for absolute paths. I have two questions: 1. What does the context-root element do? The servlet and JSP specs are pretty vague about this. 2. Should I be calling request.getContextPath() and using it to create absolute URLs for a href="..." tags or just try and use relative URLs within the a href="..." tags? Kurt in Atlanta -- // // // Mike Clark // // Clarkware Consulting // Enterprise Java Architecture, Design, Development // // http://www.clarkware.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +1.720.851.2014 // -- // // // Mike Clark // // Clarkware Consulting // Enterprise Java Architecture, Design, Development // // http://www.clarkware.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +1.720.851.2014 //
RE: Which JDK to use?
I'm having trouble with glibc and java (Sun for now). I have glibc 2.1.3, JDK 1.2.2. When I try to start a Swing/AWT application I get a 'shared library not found' error. Anyone know something about that? non-GUI programs run fine. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lawrence Fry Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 01:50 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Which JDK to use? Stas, I have been having great luck with IBMJava2-13 on my linux box. Make sure you have glibc 2.1.2 or better, I found an issue with glibc 2.1.1. Otherwise, its works findand its FAST! regards, Lawrence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stanislav Maximov Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:46 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Which JDK to use? Importance: High Hello, I've tried Blackdown 1.2.2, but it seems to be not very fast. Could you please suggest me another JDK to use on Linux with Orion 1.0.3? Thanks in advance. stas@
RE: Which JDK to use?
I'm not on linux myself at the moment, but I'll try it when I have the opportunity. Thanks for the hint. I'm having trouble with glibc and java (Sun for now). I have glibc 2.1.3, JDK 1.2.2. When I try to start a Swing/AWT application I get a 'shared library not found' error. Anyone know something about that? non-GUI programs run fine. I'm not sure about that, but I think I've seen something similar in the past. The solution was to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing out to $JAVA_HOME/lib or so and all started to be working fine. I can't check it out as I'm on Solaris, but I'm pretty sure it should help.
RE: Using development=true
generated sources will be stored in oriondir/application-deployments/webapp/persistence (or something like that). if development="false", they will not be saved. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Clark Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 04:47 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Using "development=true" Doesn't seem to alter the behavior. I attempted to create a src and classes directory, and point the application.xml and global-web-application.xml to the classes directory, while using the source-directory attribute pointed at the src directory. Since both classloaders still point to the same class files, the default classloader wins out. Mike Kevin Duffey wrote: My understanding is that you need to have orion-web-app development="true" source-directory="drive:path" ... / Also, any objects stored in the HttpSession must be implementing Serializable or you'll have problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Clark Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:58 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Using "development=true" Is anyone successfully using the development="true" option for web applications where the web application classes and the non-web application classes share the same root directory? For example, if you have all your classes rooted in d:/projects/com/xyz/, you can point the reloading classloader to this directory by adding the following to the global-web-application.xml file... orion-web-app jsp-cache-directory="file:d:/orion/persistence/jsp" servlet-webdir="/servlet" development="true" autoreload-jsp-beans="true" classpath path="file:/d:/projects" / ... /orion-web-app The servlet engine will automatically compile and reload servlets (and referenced beans) contained within this root directory that have been edited. However, if you add the same directory to the application.xml file, as in... library path="file:/d:/projects" / then the standard (non-reloading) classloader will take precedence over the reloading classloader used by the web application, and edited servlet files will no longer be reloaded. I understand that I could break up my directory hierarchy into two separate roots, for example d:/projects/apps/com/xyz/... d:/projects/web-apps/com/xyz/... and use the d:/projects/apps in the application.xml and the d:/projects/web-apps in the global-web-application.xml. I also understand that these apps could be deployed as separate JAR and WAR files, but this isn't very convenient in development mode. It's common to root all classes in a single directory, so I'm interested to hear how others may be tackling this problem. Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- // // // Mike Clark // // Clarkware Consulting // Enterprise Java Architecture, Design, Development // // http://www.clarkware.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +1.720.851.2014 //
RE: Where Orion puts the code?
orion/application-deployments/application/persistence but only when development="true" Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ismael Blesa Part Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 13:56 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Where Orion puts the code? I have some jsps and I have a strange error. Where OrionServer puts the code generated?
RE: Orion and InterBase
it works fine. Just copy interclient.jar to /orion/lib I use the following schema-xml: ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE database-schema PUBLIC "-//Evermind//- Database schema" "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/database-schema.dtd" database-schema name="Interbase" not-null="not null" null="default null" primary-key="primary key" max-table-name-lenght="30" type-mapping type="java.lang.String" name="varchar(255)" / type-mapping type="int" name="number(20,0)" / type-mapping type="long" name="number(20,0)" / type-mapping type="float" name="number(20,5)" / type-mapping type="double" name="number(30,0)" / type-mapping type="byte" name="number(10,0)" / type-mapping type="char" name="char(1)" / type-mapping type="short" name="number(10,0)" / type-mapping type="boolean" name="number(1,0)" / type-mapping type="java.util.Date" name="date" / type-mapping type="java.io.Serializable" name="blob" / disallowed-field name="password" / disallowed-field name="date" / /database-schema which seems to work. Any improvements are welcome ;) Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of A. Gregory Rabil Sent: 28 August 2000 15:35 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion and InterBase Has anyone experienced connecting Orion to InterBase 6.0. I've been successful hooking Orion up to several RDBMS via the JDBC-ODBC bridge. With InterBase, the InterClient package provides the connectivity and the JDBC driver. My data-sources.xml file looks something like the following: data-source name="Default data-source" class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource" location="jdbc/DefaultDS" pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS" xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS" ejb-location="jdbc/DefaultEJBDS" url="jdbc:interbase://localhost/E:/Inprise/InterBase/data/mydb.gdb" connection-driver="interbase.interclient.Driver" username="user" password="password" / /data-sources The interclient.jar file is in my classpath, but I get an error when I start Orion that it cannot locate the DriverManager "interbase.interclient.Driver". Any ideas? Thanks, Greg
RE: servlet tag in jsp/shtml file, works .. with a problem
you do, like I stated earlier... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Juan Pablo Lorandi Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 14:43 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: servlet tag in jsp/shtml file, works .. with a problem Don't you have to escape the ampersand?? param name="somehtml" value="\nbsp;" ?? My 2c, Rifle -Original Message- From: Tomi Panula-Ontto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 4:02 AM To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: servlet tag in jsp/shtml file, works .. with a problem Hello, we would like to replace Apache+Jrun with OrionServer and right now I'm testing OrionServer v1.2.0 by trying to move our existing sites to OrionServer. However, we have used SERVLET tag rather extensively. That did not work in OrionServer at first. Then I changed all shtml files to be processed with jsp servlet. SSI works, servlet tag works. Great! But then I ran into a problem. Here is a example code to demonstrate the problem: (Put it to the default-web-app) - test.jsp html head titletest/title /head body servlet name="DateServlet" param name="somehtml" value="nbsp;" /servlet /body /html - test.jsp CRASH. OrionServer says: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Missing '=' in attribute key/value pair at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpServletRequest.u4(JAX) ... Now, remove the character from the nbsp; in the parameter value. No crashes. Is this a bug?
DTDs Was:RE: Can
it's a bug (already reported). Remove the last 's' from the name (to get database-schema.dtd). Counter-question: where is the ejb-jar DTD? I get a 404 when trying to retrieve it from Sun. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Kew Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 00:41 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Can Hi there, Can anyone tell me where to get "database-schemes.dtd"? According to .xml files at $orion_home/config/database-schemas/, it should locate at "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/database-schemes.dtd", but I could not find the file at this url. Thanks, Jennifer Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: Can
if a URL is given, it can be used to retrieve the DTD from the network. If the location is not valid (or if the network is not available, which has the same effect), validation will fail. Having the DTD at hand for documentation and study can also be quite useful (especially for poorly documented features). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Cannon-Brookes Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:59 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Can DTD's do not actually have to be at a particular URL, AFAIK that is just a 'primary key' to differentiate that DTD from other DTD's in the document? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Kew Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:41 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Can Hi there, Can anyone tell me where to get "database-schemes.dtd"? According to .xml files at $orion_home/config/database-schemas/, it should locate at "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/database-schemes.dtd", but I could not find the file at this url. Thanks, Jennifer Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: Debugging servlets
read the FAQ. It's there... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stanislav Bernatsky Sent: 23 August 2000 15:48 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Debugging servlets Could anyone explain me how to debug servlets in Kawa+Orion? When I debug ejb's its all works fine. Best regards, Stanislav Bernatsky
RE: JSP examples not running
500 means the server encountered an error running the JSP. try to set development="true" in global-web-application.xml and you may get a more descriptive error (like the full Exception). If you have not restarted Orion since copying tools.jar, do so now. It is required. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelly Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 07:18 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: JSP examples not running Hi I have just downloaded Orion and installed it on Digital Unix The Websever is running OK. I have copied the tools.jar to the Orion directory. But when I have try to view the JSP example pages I get HTTP error 500. All the permissions on the files are OK. I can view the html and txt files via the server. How can I determine that the pages are being served by the ServletRunner Is there some config attribute to set to enable JSPs? Any other suggestions? thanks Jeff
RE: Orion and IIS
maybe he wants to run ASP or ISAPI? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin DuffeySent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 23:28To: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Orion and IIS Why would you want to? Orion has a much faster web server built in. Use that instead..and toss IIS to the dogs. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale BronkSent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 4:55 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: Orion and IIS Anyone know how to set IIS to forward all requests to Orion? Dale Bronk[EMAIL PROTECTED]Windscape Consulting, Inc.http://www.windscape.comMobile: 404-918-2766Office: 770-754-0498
RE: Oracle DS
Be sure to use version 8.1.6 or upwards of the OraJDBC driver, though. Earlier versions do not work at all with Java2 (as we found out after several weeks of swearing)! Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Krueger Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 14:12 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Oracle DS At 14:38 21.08.00 , you wrote: Hello I can't get my Orion running with Oracle datasource. Could somebody shed some light on this? Maybe some example of data-sources.xml? TIA stas@ data-source name="Procurement Datasource" class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource" location="jdbc/ProcurementDS" xa-location="jdbc/xa/ProcurementXADS" ejb-location="jdbc/ProcurementEJBDS" url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@servername:1521:S701A" connection-driver="oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver" schema="database-schemas/oracle.xml" username="user" password="pass" inactivity-timeout="30" / no problems with orion and oracle at all. HTH, robert (-) Robert Krüger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
RE: what are you missing in apache-like functionality?
I do not think the J2EE specs prohibit you from implementing something that is not part of it. That would be too restrictive, IMO, and enough reasons to drop the J2EE compliance in that respect. PHP, mod-perl, and documentation would be good. Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cory Adams Sent: 19 August 2000 16:55 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: what are you missing in apache-like functionality? But don't you think that would cause Orion to deviate from the Sun J2EE spec.? PHP is great to work with but it is definately not something that is anywhere close to being part of J2EE. You could implement many of the same types of PHP functions perhaps with custom TagLibs or rewrite to JSP. Cory At 08:21 AM 8/19/00 -0500, Andrew Panagos wrote: List So far 1) mod_rewrite 2) mod_expires 3) I would like php to the list so desired Apache to Orion wants. We have alot of investment in php files. It would be great to be able to use them with Orion instead of having to run Apache and Orion Andrew
RE: POLL: what are you missing in apache-like functionality?
I think such request merely indicate the need for more complete documentation. Documentation (and you are doing a good job, but it should not be needed, Evermind should do it for us) is the greatest weakness Orion has (not counting the bugs Swing causes in the tools, these are generic to Java applications using Swing). I like Orion, but without docs, I could never sell people on it (the people who need to set up and maintain it are not programmers, they are Unix and NT sysadmins... And at the price, it is difficult to get management people convinced anyway (the expensive == good syndrome is very strong here). Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joseph B. Ottinger Sent: 19 August 2000 20:31 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: POLL: what are you missing in apache-like functionality? I'm also disturbed at seeing requests for CGI and PHP (and simple BASIC auth) in Orion. Come on, folks! CGI and PHP support are *already there* - and it's not difficult to figure out. Documentation on Orion is sketchy, no doubt. That's why I started www.orionsupport.com - and eventually it'll be able to accept text from *anyone* so that as we learn new things, we'll be able to document it ourselves so we can use a cutting edge server to its potential. We don't need to waste time asking for non-j2ee functionality (like "simple basic auth" sounds, to me, considering that the list has had working directions for "simple basic auth" a day or two ago that work) or capabilities it already has (like PHP and CGI support). --- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo HOMES.COM Developer
RE: please please please include change list with new releases
developers creating documentation that is useful to users? You must be kidding ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karl Avedal Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 23:26 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: please please please include change list with new releases Hello Ari, All I can say is that I couldn't agree more, we really need that and I'm internally pushing developers to write good notes meant for users, for every change they make :) Hopefully it will help. However, changes.txt will be updated to 1.2 when it's released (it's just experimental so far). Regards, Karl Avedal Ari Halberstadt wrote: I have no idea what has been changed in each version. Does version X fix some bug? What are the new features I can use? Anything cool and fun to play with? The changes.txt file included with v1.2.0 only goes up to v1.1.16, which is woefully out of date. Configuration management and bug tracking software can be used to automatically generate complete release notes, or you could have your engineers keep notes and include them with the distribution.
RE: MySql?
Interbase 6 is great, when you don't mind the shortcomings in the JDBC
driver (a fix for it is now in testing, though): it does not support
renaming columns using AS. So "select count(*) AS userCount from users" will
not allow getInt("userCount"), though getInt(1) works fine, so there is a
simple workaround.
I find Interbase stable and fast as well. Maybe not quite as good there as
Oracle, but at the price (and the footprint, full install is under 25MB,
where Oracle has a minimum install of about 250MB).
Jeroen T. Wenting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jens Stutte
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 09:32
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: AW: MySql?
Just to drop in a line: We successfully use Interbase 6 as database server
for our entity beans (BMP, so do not ask for a database scheme ;-). It
should fit all the needs the people have that want to use MySQL - first of
all, it's now free... (and, astonishingly, it seems even faster,
although i
did no real benchmarking). The JDBC drivers seem stable, but they do not
support long and timestamp values in the database yet (that
means, they only
use Interbase dialect 1, not the new one, 3).
Regards
Jens Stutte
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Richard Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 02:30
An: Orion-Interest
Cc: Orion-Interest
Betreff: RE: MySql?
MySQL can be used with EJB's, but entities will have to be
written in such
a way as to get around the lack of transaction support, ie.
using table
locks (Yuck!). THis however alone does not guarantee data
integrity, as a
connection that is dropped in the middle of a set of queries,
will result
in the locks being dropped, meaning table locks are only
useful when two
concurrect connections are trying to write/ read to the same
table, and
locks will ensure that one connection blocks till the other drops the
lock.
So, you can still do session beans, but not standard entity beans.
MaxSQL is MySQL with Berkeley DB support for transactions.
THis has been
announced, but not released yet. I think they are waiting till the
existing Berkeley DB transactions mod is more stable before
they release
it. You could have a preview by getting the Mod and installing it with
MySQL and seeing how it goes with EJB's under Orion.
Have not had too much of a play with EJB support on Orion yet, but i
understand you have to create a schema for particular databases to use
them as EJB datasources ??
cheers,
Richard.
ps. I have been using MySQL for some time on Orion, as a standard
datasource, but have not tried it with EJB's yet. It is fine
as a standard
datasource, the JDBC drivers ( the mm variety ) even have transaction
handling routines. (commit, rollback, etc... ) They just dont
work, ie.
The transaction gets fired through query by query without
regard for data
integrity.
---
Richard Woodward
G8 Labs Ltd.
Wellington
New Zealand
Direct Dial (04) 9393414
---
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Michael Bushe wrote:
Since MySQL doesn't support transactions (hence IMHO is a toy like
MSAccess), so I would be surprised if it would work with
any EJB server. If
you want an open source solution I'd try PostgreSQL or
Inprise's Interbase.
I'm starting with Oracle and moving to one of those. I did
try PostgreSQL
with the RI and that worked, so I bet Orion would work too.
Let us know or
I'll let y'all know in a couple of months.
Michael
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Steven Punte
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 1:01 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: MySql?
Has anyone ever use the database "mysql" successfully with Orion?
Steve
STeve Punte
e-Business Software Architect
Technologent Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: posting fourth time but did not got any answer
Title: RE: posting fourth time but did not got any answer I know it's not very robust. That's why I designated it a quick hack. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hani SuleimanSent: 14 August 2000 17:31To: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: posting fourth time but did not got any answer This isn't a very robust approach, because finalize is not guaranteed to be called. It might or might not. In fact in case of server shutdown, it's pretty unlikely to get called. For servlets, you should do your shutdown stuff in the destroy method, which the server will call before it terminates (assuming it's a graceful shutdown, of course). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J.T. Wenting Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:32 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: posting fourth time but did not got any answer For server shutdown, a quick hack is to create a servlet that loads on server startup, has an empty init method, no service methods, and a finalize that does something. finalize will get called when the class instance (of which there is only one, of course) is garbage collected, which happens to be right before the JVM terminates ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 14:32 To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: posting fourth time but did not got any answer for server startup, the following should do: 1. specify load-on-startup for your servlet in web.xml 2. specify load-on-startup for your web application in web-site.xml for server shutdown, I have no idea Khan Kamran schrieb: Hi all, I want to know how i can run my servlet at orion server startup and shutdown. Pleaaa as he lp Thanks Kamran
RE: posting fourth time but did not got any answer
For server shutdown, a quick hack is to create a servlet that loads on server startup, has an empty init method, no service methods, and a finalize that does something. finalize will get called when the class instance (of which there is only one, of course) is garbage collected, which happens to be right before the JVM terminates ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 14:32 To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: posting fourth time but did not got any answer for server startup, the following should do: 1. specify load-on-startup for your servlet in web.xml 2. specify load-on-startup for your web application in web-site.xml for server shutdown, I have no idea Khan Kamran schrieb: Hi all, I want to know how i can run my servlet at orion server startup and shutdown. Ples help Thanks Kamran
RE: CMP:Exception in thread main java.lang.InternalError
in
Java, issue conn.setAutoCommit(true) to set autocommit on for Connection conn
(if the database engine supports it), or setAutoCommit(false) to turn it
off.
Default is usually on, for some reason.
Jeroen T. Wenting[EMAIL PROTECTED]Murphy was
wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wim
veningaSent: Friday, August 11, 2000 20:13To:
Orion-InterestSubject: Re: CMP:Exception in thread "main"
java.lang.InternalErrorHi Ishpal,
Do you use cloudscape as your db, because I got this error using cloudscape
as my database. Look in your application.log file, if you get the
following error
7/29/00 3:49 PM Error in bean Klant SQL Exception: Cannot issue commit
when autoCommit is on. at c8e.k.j.l_(Unknown Source) at
c8e.k.j.l_(Unknown Source) at c8e.k.j.d(Unknown Source) at
c8e.k.q.commit(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.sql.an.commit(JAX)
at com.evermind.sql.aj.commit(JAX) at
com.evermind.server.ejb.DataSourceConnection.commit(JAX) at
KlantHome_EntityHomeWrapper35.create(KlantHome_EntityHomeWrapper35.java:451)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method) at
com.evermind.server.rmi.bd.run(JAX) at
com.evermind.server.rmi.bb.hv(JAX) at
com.evermind.server.rmi.bb.run(JAX) at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX)
7/29/00 3:51 PM Stopped
Your db (in my case cloudscape) has autocommit on, look in your db's
documentation on how to set the autocommit on. I have looked for this in
the cloudscape docs but couldn't find it.
Hope this helps.
Greetings Wim Veninga
Ishpal wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to access an Entity bean from a client on a seperate JVM.
I can access everything and the EntityBean is also successfully
deployed.
The EntityBean adds a row to the table. When i call
home.create(id,name,age) from the client ... I get the following
Exception.
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Object was null but
still part of the cache
at com.evermind.server.rmi.a8.invokeMethod(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.rmi.a_.invoke(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.rmi.a0.invoke(JAX)
at __Proxy0.create(Unknown
Source) at
ProfileClient.main(ProfileClient.java:48)
My Client code is:---
ProfileHome profilehome =
(ProfileHome)PortableRemoteObject.narrow(objref,ProfileHome.class);
Profile = profilehome.create(id,name,age);
I have also tried with ... profilehome.create(id,name,age);
The ProfileBean code for create is as:--
public ProfilePK ejbCreate(int
id,String name,int age){
this.id=id;
this.name=name;
this.age=age;
return null; }//ejbCreate
ProfilePK is the primary key class...
.
The value gets added in the database. But the client terminates by
throwing the above exception.
Where could I go wrong. Please help..
Thanks, Ishpal.
RE: JSP on Win98
have you copies tools.jar to the main orion folder? The error seems to be an IE 'friendly HTTP error message'. You can turn those of (and the server-generated messages on ) from tools-options-advanced in IE. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Su, Yi Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 06:06 To: Orion-Interest Subject: JSP on Win98 Hi, I've tried Orion examples on Windows NT 4 and Windows 2000 server. They are all OK. But I couldn't get through in Win98 machine. The problem is whenever a page refers to a JSP page, a "Page not found" will be throwed. Could anyone please help me out? Thank you, Su Yi
RE: webapp design: how to handle connection pooling
Option 2 is better when you are dealing with application servers, especialy with Orion. Orion has a very easy built-in connection pooling capability. When you suggest this method, I assume you are talking about an Orion specific mechanism correct? This is convenient if Orion is the only server you're using. If you ever want to migrate your app to a new server, you have to use that server's method or resort to the custom connection pool class above. Have I grasped the situation, or is there a J2EE-based "standard" mechanism for connection pooling that is portable across application servers? There is a J2EE standard for connection pooling in the works, from what I've heard, but it is not in the 1.2.1 release. Personally, I always use a 3rd party one, for exactly the reason you state: cross-server portability. I test on Orion and Tomcat, deploy on iPlanet, using different database engines as well. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
RE: webapp design: how to handle connection pooling
you do have to release the connections back to the pool, usually with a free(Connection) command or similar. the pool then handles closing the actual Connection for you. Maybe Orion's implementation wants the Connection to be closed outside the pool, but this seems illogical to me. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Peer Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 09:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: webapp design: how to handle connection pooling Hi everybody, thank you for your responses! i forgot to say that i am already using orion's connection pooling capability (i never thought i would give up my old connection pooling package, but orion made it possible ;=) the reason why i wrote the original message to this list was that i knew i am making something wrong, because since i upgraded to orion 1.1.37 i got that interesting warning on my console: "DriverManagerConnectionPoolConnection not closed, check your code!" (and i get lots of them ;=) this made me think about how to manage connections in general. i did not know i had to CLOSE the connections (i thought a connection pool consists of OPEN connections) as you can see, i still don't understand this whole db-connection stuff, so every additional info is still very appreciated!! thanks, joe - to Keven: i haven't tried yet, but i don't see a reason why orion should NOT be able to pool connections to different databases Keven Duffey wrote: My input follows: * some people say, it's best practice to put 1 connection into 1 user's http session and use it for all requests of that user This only works if you don't have a lot of users concurrently, say a small intranet application, that doesn't care scalibility. The reason is database connection can't be serialized for sure and connection in http session can't be replicated across your web server farm. Hence each user in a session requires to use the same machine in your web farm. This could be terrible if you intend to serve thousands of users concurrently. Secondly database licensing is an issue. Some database vendors charge you by concurrent opened connection. If your site has a thousand users concurrently, you will need to purchase a thousand licenses (That is the thing scares me most). Agreed with replier..you would NEVER want to do this. If you are not careful you can lose the connections which will ultimately crash the database and/or the web server. VERY bad design. * other people say it's best practice to use a connection for every request. (and if more than one methods are involved, the connection should be given as a method parameter) I would rather use this per-requset approach. Only open a connection whenever a request comes in and needs database access. I can't think of a reason why passing around connection as parameter is a bad idea as long as it is in the same request. This isn't bad. There are better ways. * again other people argue that they don't care at all about reusing connection, they just open and close them when they need/want to I would not like this idea since opening a database connection is expensive unless there is a connection pooling mechanism in place. This is VERY slow, and in some tests its 100's of times slower than implementing a connection pool. For the original sender (and Conrad if you are not aware of this), there are two methods I would choose over the others above. The first is connection pooling. Servlets in the same web app maintain a Servlet Context that is a good place to store "global" objects. By making a connection pool class and putting it in the servlet context when the web app is first loaded, the connection pool is available to all servlets (and JSP pages). Beyond that, a connection pool allows you to open one or more connections and keep them alive while the web app is running. Because of this, instead of going over the network and opening a connection on each request, then closing that connection, you are given an immediate opened connection from the pool on every request. This class is relatively easy to implement as well. Option 2 is better when you are dealing with application servers, especialy with Orion. Orion has a very easy built-in connection pooling capability. Generally the EJB layer would use this to get and set data in the database, but your JSP/Servlets can do the same as well. Each Orion app server (assuming you are using a cluster for fail-over, load-balancing and scalability) can have its own connection pool settings. You provide the database driver, number of connections, and login/password. The rest is done through JDBC 2.0 DataSources. Now..I am not a pro at this yet..so I am taking a
RE: Jive
I'm working on building Jive. I'll look into it and forward your message to the main maintainers. Jive probably does not see the class, but the JSP engine does. Maybe that's what is causing problems. Have you been able to create the Jive database on hSQL? If so, can you send in the SQL scripts for it? We want to have broad support. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Miller Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 15:13 To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jive Has anyone here used Jive (www.coolservlets.com/jive) with Orion (1.1.37)? I've just tried to set it up, and hit a problem because the orion/lib/hsql.jar file contains a class called 'Tree'. Jive also has a class called this, and when I try to use it in a JSP page, Orion finds Hypersonic's Tree class first. So the question is, should this Hypersonic class be visible to my JSP page? I would have thought not unless I explicitly used %@ page import ... % Has anyone else seen this problem?
RE: Jive
Will Orion survive without hSQL installed? I do not use it for anything myself, so if Orion can do without, so can I. I could always replace it with another database if that is possible (instantDb, Interbase, Oracle (at work), even MS Access...). Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joseph B. Ottinger Sent: 09 August 2000 19:06 To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest; Matt Adam Tucker Subject: Re: Jive Um, no. It's not a bug in orion. It's a classpath issue, and literally a problem with hsql.jar, as stated. $ORION/lib jars get put in the classpath, and since Tree.class in hsql is in the default package, it's exposed according to java's rules. If you want to blame Java, fine. Go for it. If you want to blame hsql, fine. Go for it. In either case, blame is deserved (well, mostly for hsql, but hey.) Orion is doing nothing to the classpath to make it behave oddly. The solution is to fix hsql.jar, really, not modify orion or jive. On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Chris Miller wrote: Thanks for the reply Jeroen. As far as I can see, this is actually a bug in Orion - it's exposing the classes in hsql.jar (and probably the other /lib jars?) to JSP pages when it shouldn't be. I don't think Jive needs fixing? As for the hSQL scripts, I'm sorry but I don't have any - I'm actually using SQL Server (but I have a script for that if you want it?). My solution to the problem I described was to simply remove the hsql.jar file from /orion/lib since I'm not using it. - Original Message - From: "J.T. Wenting" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Matt Adam Tucker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Jive I'm working on building Jive. I'll look into it and forward your message to the main maintainers. Jive probably does not see the class, but the JSP engine does. Maybe that's what is causing problems. Have you been able to create the Jive database on hSQL? If so, can you send in the SQL scripts for it? We want to have broad support. Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Miller Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 15:13 To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jive Has anyone here used Jive (www.coolservlets.com/jive) with Orion (1.1.37)? I've just tried to set it up, and hit a problem because the orion/lib/hsql.jar file contains a class called 'Tree'. Jive also has a class called this, and when I try to use it in a JSP page, Orion finds Hypersonic's Tree class first. So the question is, should this Hypersonic class be visible to my JSP page? I would have thought not unless I explicitly used %@ page import ... % Has anyone else seen this problem? --- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo HOMES.COM Developer
RE: How do you like Orion?
real-life story: Allaire increased the price of Spectra (I think it was) about tenfold because people would not buy it. They considered it was not expensive enough to be any good... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Clark Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 02:39 To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How do you like Orion? It's unfortunate that folks are willing to fork over tens of thousands of dollars for similar products while casting a skeptical eye on products that are more realistically priced. It's a high-powered application server, not a Mercedes! We've somehow been brainwashed into thinking that application servers should be expensive, both for development and production, and along the way the notion of quality has gone by the wayside. At any rate, Orion is an outstanding product, at a reasonable price, and I'd highly recommend that you kick its tires. Mike Charles Fausz wrote: Hi there busy people, I'll be quick. We're in the research stage, we've chosen JBuilder for our Java tool, now we've got to find an application server. Our development platform will be NT. My boss wants to use MS IIS and MTS, but I'd like to stay away from MS if possible. So... how do you like working with Orion App server? Would you recommend it to others? Anything we should know about it? I'm concerned about how cheap it is, is there something hidden here? Will I get what I pay for? Thanks for any input. Have a nice day! Phil -- // // // Mike Clark // // Clarkware Consulting // Enterprise Java Architecture, Design, Development // // http://www.clarkware.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +1.720.851.2014 //
RE: Great speed up in Orion 1.1.30
Anything is more stable than the equivalent IBM product in my experience... The notable exception being DB2. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Krueger Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 09:20 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Great speed up in Orion 1.1.30 it does crash occasionally, mostly when redeploying applications but it's stable enough for development and more stable than the ibm "final" and it's a lot faster than jdk1.2.2. wouldn't recommend using it in a production system, though (I doubt the license allows this with the beta anyway). regards, robert At 23:06 25.07.00 , Brady Moritz wrote: you mention using the sun 1.3 jdk, I tried using this and it woudl crash on some of the test pages with orion... tried 1.2.2 and it works fine. this was with orion 1.0.3, have tehse problems been repaired? Thanks Brady Moritz Moritz Designs (-) Robert Krüger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
RE: Shutting down in Windows NT.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 09:17 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Shutting down in Windows NT. I get the same errors AFTER upgrading to 1.1.30 -Original Message- From: Rick Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sonntag, 23. Juli 2000 22:40 Subject: Re: Shutting down in Windows NT. I did that. Now I get this message: Christian Sell wrote: you will have to upgrade to the latest version. This can be done with the command java -jar autoupdate.jar
RE: Shutting down in Windows NT.
Still happens in 1.1.30. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Bos Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 3:40 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Shutting down in Windows NT. I did that. Now I get this message: Christian Sell wrote: you will have to upgrade to the latest version. This can be done with the command java -jar autoupdate.jar error.log log.log
FW: Oracle-Driver not found
-Original Message- From: J.T. Wenting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 4:32 PM To: Andreas Reckmann Subject: RE: Oracle-Driver not found I have found you must add classes12.zip to /orion/lib (the same goes for all other jars/zips with JDBC drivers). Maybe an option to provide a classpath to the driver in data-sources.xml would be handy for a future release? Jeroen T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andreas Reckmann Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 3:02 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Oracle-Driver not found Hi, I want to run an Entity bean connected to a Oracle 8.1.5 Database. java -jar -cp $CLASSPATH orion.jar Error initializing server: DriverManagerDataSource driver 'oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver' not found data-sources.xml: ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE data-sources PUBLIC "Orion data-sources" "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/data-sources.dtd" data-sources data-source name="STP data-source" class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource" location="jdbc/DefaultDS" pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS" xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS" ejb-location="jdbc/stp" url="jdbc:oracle:thin@localhost:1521:stp" connection-driver="oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver" username="system" password="manager" / /data-sources Thanks, Andreas
