Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI
Thanks Leanne - I'll pass this on via Communique Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 20 Mar, 2007, at 15:36, leanne wynne wrote: New Findings Support Fetal Overnutrition Hypothesis Reuters Health Information 2007. © 2007 Reuters Ltd. NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Feb 28 - Findings from an epidemiologic study lend further support to the fetal overnutrition hypothesis: subjects overexposed to glucose, free fatty acids, and amino acids in utero are at increased risk for obesity later in life. According to this hypothesis, it is the mother's weight status that determines the degree of fetal overnutrition. Thus, the hypothesis helps explain why obesity is often passed from parent to offspring. In the present study, reported in the February 15th issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology, Dr. Debbie A. Lawlor and colleagues correlated the maternal body mass index (BMI) with offspring BMI in 3340 parent-offspring trios drawn from an Australian birth cohort. Maternal BMI was assessed at the first antenatal clinic visit and offspring BMI was determined at age 14. In addition, paternal BMI was calculated from the mother's report of the father's height and weight. The offspring's BMI was more closely linked to the mother's BMI than the father's, Dr. Lawlor, from the University of Bristol in the UK, and colleagues note. For a one-standard-deviation increase in maternal and paternal BMI, offspring BMI increased by 0.362 and 0.239 standard deviations. There is currently an epidemic of obesity in Western societies, the authors conclude. The potential importance of the suggestion, from our study, that greater maternal size during pregnancy, either through programming of neuroendocrine pathways or through epigenetic or other mechanisms, results in greater offspring BMI in later life means that this issue warrants further investigation. Am J Epidemiol 2007;165:418-424. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 _ Advertisement: Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx? URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3As k%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext_t=754951090_r=seek_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] ? subscription renewal
Hello to all at ozmidwifery I'm already a subscriber and wonder if the copied email below is legit or should I be wary of it? Regards Jan Hello We have received a request to subscribe the following email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the Ozmidwifery mailing list. We need to make sure you want this subscription. If you do wish to subscribe, click the following link to confirm: http://cgi.mail-list.com/r?ln=ozmidwiferyrn=s02121228582410 Or, if you prefer, Reply to this message and send it back to us without altering it. If this is all a mistake or you no longer wish to subscribe, simply ignore this message. If you suspect someone may be abusing your email address, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with complete details. Regards The team @ Birth International Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] job
Hi Anke - a happy New Year to you Bullying is the name of the game in most Autralian maternity units. I can only suggest that you start working with women again and not with colleagues. Set up your own practice. It is so satisfying working one-to-one rather than deal with disgruntled staff who are working their butts off trying to provide a service for which they just don't have the numbers. You could start up your own community classes as a private childbirth educator Run them in your home initially and move into a local church or community hall as your class number increase. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 11 Jan, 2007, at 14:04, Anke Dalman wrote: Hi list members, I wanted to send this email under “how do you deal with your frustrations?’ but the text is not really an answer to that discussion. Therefore I started a new one. I just quit my job at the local hospital, because I could no longer accept the way women and staff (lower in rank and peers) were treated there by the other staff (higher in rank). However, I would like to work where staff can be civil towards each other and their clients, preferably in education or midwifery (or both). I have a Graduate Diploma in Childbirth Education and a Master of Midwifery. If there is no job like this in Australia for me, I might have to go to Holland. Because I have my children here and grandchildren as well I prefer to stay in Australia. If anyone can help, please let me know here or on my email at home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. Anke Dalman
Re: [ozmidwifery] doula for tassie
Try the Launceston Birth Centre Jo ,,, Jean,Rosie or Liz might have some contacts. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> All the best Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 8 Nov, 2006, at 11:50, jo wrote: x-tad-biggerHi all,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerDoes anyone know of any doulas working in Tassie and any hospitals, midwives or OB’s supportive of VBAC. Have just had a lengthy chat on the phone with a woman who has had 2 c/sections and is desperate for a vaginal birth. Even went as far as to ask if I’d travel to Tassie in March next year to support her./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerAny contacts would be wonderful./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThanks in advance/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJo x/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger Jo Hunter National Convenor Homebirth Aus Coordinator Homebirth Access Sydney Innate Birth doula and CBE (02) 47 51 9840
Re: [ozmidwifery] doula for tassie
We've got up to the 180s Jo ... We still need about twenty more midwives to launch the scheme. Any midwife reading this who thinks they may want to do the odd home birth in the future ... or even do independent teaching, childbirth classes, should consider putting their name on the insurance list. It's 'pay as you go so it won't cost you an arm and a leg. Simply contact the College [EMAIL PROTECTED]> with your name, address and telephone contact and ask that your details be put on the insurance list. Thanks Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 8 Nov, 2006, at 12:34, jo wrote: x-tad-biggerGreat! Thanks Jan. Have just emailed them./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerWas wondering how the insurance for midwives is going, are you nearly at the 200 needed?/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCheers/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJo x/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJan Robinson/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:28 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCc:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Rosie Green Liz Ekins/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] doula for tassie/x-tad-bigger Try the Launceston Birth Centre Jo ,,, Jean,Rosie or Liz might have some contacts. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> All the best Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 8 Nov, 2006, at 11:50, jo wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of any doulas working in Tassie and any hospitals, midwives or OB’s supportive of VBAC. Have just had a lengthy chat on the phone with a woman who has had 2 c/sections and is desperate for a vaginal birth. Even went as far as to ask if I’d travel to Tassie in March next year to support her. Any contacts would be wonderful. Thanks in advance Jo x Jo Hunter National Convenor Homebirth Aus Coordinator Homebirth Access Sydney Innate Birth doula and CBE (02) 47 51 9840
Re: [ozmidwifery] Wounds
Hi Brenda and all My clients always self-manage their wounds with warm air from their dryer. How much enhancement of healing occurs I do not know, but I DO know that each and every one of them reports that it is SO SOOTHING ... they never dab their wound with anything at all. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 6 Oct, 2006, at 13:04, brendamanning wrote: Apologies for the x posting. Have a query on behalf of a colleague. Does anyone know of any research regarding the use of warm air (ie hair driers) to help heal peri abdo wounds. We did it years ago it went out possibly with the moist wound healing phase. She is after actual research for evidence based prac, has googled MIDIRd for it but nothing so far. I will ask our skin integrity nurse too. Any research you all know of ? With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [ozmidwifery] intact peri
Hi Paivi There was a national survey on HOMEBIRTH outcomes that included position of birth and perineal status published by Hilda Bastian in the late 1980s - not sure if anything has been produced since then Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 2 Oct, 2006, at 06:54, Päivi wrote: Hi all, I am writing an article on episiotomy. I need to know what is the % of intact perineum among homemidwifes or birth centres? This is when the mother is having a natural birth. Does this change if the mother has an epidural and is having the baby in a hospital? What I mean is that how much can the hospital midwife do to save the perineum if the mother has opted for epidural? Is it still mainly to do with the skills of the midwife? Or is it a harder job with a medicated mom? Do you all practise hot compresses, perineal massage with oil (during birth) / perineal support? What is the % of intact peri in a waterbirth? Many questions... Thank you for any ideas or comments. Päivi
Re: [ozmidwifery] intact peri
Hi all and Mary I would only use a hot compress if the woman wasn't using water... I seem to be running about 95% waterbirths these days (or under the shower) Perineal massage during labour is a NO,NO in my practice. I sometimes find women put their own hands in front of the presenting part as if to keep the head flexed when giving birth .. it seems to be something that happens spontaneously for some women. Episiotomies? I've never done one ... even managed to get through my training without having to perform one for the records If there is going to be a tear ... so be it ... the perineum will give in the line of least resistance ... usually straight down the midline. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 2 Oct, 2006, at 12:59, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-biggerHi Paivi, I cannot give you statistics of homebirth as I do not have immediate access to them. I will see if we have any stats on our service that I can access. Just in general, the main way to protect the perineum is not to tell the woman to push, but to allow her to use her natural open glottis pushing, an keep hands off. At home we do not do directed pushing. I cannot speak for birth centres, but their philosophy is much the same. Each midwife does different things, but it is not usual to use compresses or perineal massage during birth. Is that what you have found Jan? I wouldn’t put too much weight on the Bastian research as not all of us completed her surveys. I personally have done 3 episiotomies in 24 yrs, but would do one if I thought necessary. Hospital midwives will have to answer the one about epidurals. MM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerPäivi/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Monday, 2 October 2006 4:54 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [ozmidwifery] intact peri/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHi all,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI am writing an article on episiotomy. I need to know what is the % of intact perineum among homemidwifes or birth centres? This is when the mother is having a natural birth./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerDoes this change if the mother has an epidural and is having the baby in a hospital? What I mean is that how much can the hospital midwife do to save the perineum if the mother has opted for epidural? Is it still mainly to do with the skills of the midwife? Or is it a harder job with a medicated mom?/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerDo you all practise hot compresses, perineal massage with oil (during birth) / perineal support?/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerWhat is the % of intact peri in a waterbirth?/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerMany questions... Thank you for any ideas or comments./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerPäivi/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] DO SOMETHING!
The College is currently asking all it's members to write to their Federal Member about this. It would not be too hard to send a cc to Tony I'm with you Mary, Let's do it! Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 2 Oct, 2006, at 12:59, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-biggerMany of us seem to think that it is a retrograde step, but telling each other stories will not change things. What can we do to put forward our views to the government? I guess we could rely on “someone else” to “do something” but WE really need to write to our Federal Health Minister, our local fed Politician, go and see them, etc. If everyone on this list wrote to Minister Tony Abbott, he would have to be a little bit impressed and may actually get more info before continuing on his rigid way. LETS DO IT. MM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerbrendamanning/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Monday, 2 October 2006 8:13 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] Backward step/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger Going back to the maternity nurse or Gen/ Obstetric nurse working in Midwifery is how NZ worked in the 70's 80's. It was unsatisfactory then would be the same now, despite the fact the we did 6 months obs in our general training we weren't midwives it showed. I worked in mid whilst attending homebirths, worked in birth suite, postnatal, taught pre-natal classes spent 3 years in charge of SCN as a RGON in the early 80's when I went to train as a midwife just like Di M I too found it a revelation. It's a retrograde step undermines all the recognition of your specialised profession you Australian midwives have fought so hard for. It's just another path on: follow the American leader. With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerD. Morgan/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Monday, October 02, 2006 9:54 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] RE:/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI agree Michelle, I too worked in a rural area prior to completing my Mid many years ago and can still remember the revelations I felt while learning Midwifery. As an RN non Midwife, I was quite ignorant of what a true Midwife's role involved. It was scarey stuff./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCheers/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerDi M/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] postnatal 5 star hotel stays
Women would be far better off demanding private health fund reforms Private Health should provide real choice and start paying for best practice i.e. * private midwife's fee (continuity of care only) *housekeeper/doula service for four hours each day for one week while the new mother establishes her lactation and bonds to her baby at home Grand United are getting close to doing this. I can imagine that any first-time mother coming home from a few days at the Hilton will be a prime candidate for post-partum depression once the reality of being home alone with her new baby sets in. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 21 Sep, 2006, at 21:10, jesse/jayne wrote: My friend was really looking forward to her 5 star experience after the birth of her baby earlier this year. She felt like she was finally getting something back after paying hefty private health insurance for many years. She ended up with GD, being induced and emergency c-sect so didn't get to stay at the hotel for free. She felt very ripped off! How the hell can they justify spending our private health fund premiums on something like this? Jayne - Original Message - x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJanet Fraser/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:31 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article/x-tad-bigger Women can find community though like in many forums where friendships and practical support abound, meals are cooked, children cared for and all without some unquestioning consumerism coming into play. Playgroups, ABA groups, forums, primary schools, birth groups are all good places for the kind of support desparately lacking in our lives. Maybe you could encourage meal provision among your DDCs? Denying the sacredness of birth and women is what has led us to this silly fake idea that a 5 star hotel makes up for that lack of respect and support we are accorded in pregnancy and birth. It's like the really consumerist baby shower instead of a woman-focussed blessingway or motherway. It's really sad that we live in a world where care by complete strangers is a treat and one from which our other children are removed. J x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerKelly @ BellyBelly/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:18 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article/x-tad-bigger And the whole mindset of having a rest with your other kids somewhere else escapes me. Fark yucko. x-tad-bigger>> I wouldn’t want to be away from my kids, but it’s because the problem lies far deeper than a matter of resting up at a hotel. It’s because far too many mothers do not have support, community and husbands working longer hours every week. They are desperate for a break, nurturing etc and they are not getting it. Need to work on the root cause of this not the symptoms. Big ask./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerBest Regards,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerKelly Zantey/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCreator, /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerGentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerBellyBelly Birth Support/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJanet Fraser/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Thursday, 21 September 2006 6:21 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article/x-tad-bigger Frankly it appals me that people think it's ok for health funds to cover this crap that should be a luxury we pay for ourselves. What about some equity of health care in this country? How about health funds pay for proper midwifery not bloody hotels. I think it's nauseating. Maybe if only SICK women, as opposed to BIRTHING women, were in hospital beds we wouldn't have a perceived need for luxury frigging hotels as a back up. And the whole mindset of having a rest with your other kids
Re: [ozmidwifery] midwives birthing?
Hi Sadie Don't know of any research and we've all been aware of catching each other's babies in hospital for yonks as you say. I just want to say it is fairly common event in independent midwifery practice to be approached by midwives or midwifery students to provide pregnancy,birth and puerperal care at home. In fact one of my September clients is a midwife. She has just flown all the way home from o/s to have her first baby here in Sydney (the only 'choice' for o/s women in the country where her husband works is an obstetrician) She will be returning o/s about one month after the birth. There was some research done by Hilda Bastian when she was president of Homebirth Australia that produced a social profile of clients of independently practicing midwives. She used the results of this research very effectively to debate the home birth cause on a televised national debate (ABC Melbourne event) I think way back in the 1980s. When challenged by an obstetrician that the majority of home birth clients were 'alternative-type hippies' she was very quick to put him in his place by quoting the results of her national survey in fact the majority of home birth clients were HEALTH PROFESSIONALS. I still find that is the case with my practice today. For any budding PhD student it would be a great research topic to revive again you would need to find Hilda to get a copy of her paper ... I used to have it but now sure where it is buried in the piles of papers in my garage these days. The television debate would still be available from the ABC I would think. It would be worthwhile showing to students. While there is evidence that midwives eat their young and horizontal violence rules ... I believe there is also ample evidence in private practice that midwives midwife their own too. Does someone want to give it a go? Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 6 Sep, 2006, at 22:04, Sadie wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any research that has been conducted on midwives birthing midwives? We've all caught our colleagues babies - but I'm trying to find some research for one of our students and I'm drawing a complete blank. Any ideas wise women?? Cheers, Sadie
Re: [ozmidwifery] Granuloma umbilicus
Silver Nitrate is the go Natalie Most medicos recommend it and it works. However have seen one woman who did not want to put anything on it and left it to dry and eventually shriveled up into a smaller mass inside the umbi. She put small piece of plastic under nappy to protect it and left it exposed to air for a good five minutes every time nappy changed. Blow dry with hairdryer after bath or other wetting. It took about three weeks to grow good skin over raw areas. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 23 Aug, 2006, at 20:52, Natalie Dash wrote: Hi everyone, My clients baby boy is 6 1/2 weeks old has a Granuloma Umbilicus. She has been told by the Dr to treat it with Silver Nitrate (stick from the chemist) that it should drop off in 3 - 5 days. She wondered if there were any effective natural ways to treat it... she read online about sea salt. If not S.N was used, is it possible that it could burn the skin surrounding the granuloma? Could the SN leak into the surrounding tissue? Are there any possible complications that may not have been mentioned to her? Thanks Natalie Innate Birth Childbirth Education Birth Support 4757 2080 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds
Hi all NSW Teachers Federation Health Society also pays out ... Home Births by a qualified midwife (9 months waiting period) A benefit of up to $850, including antenatal and post natal visits, for services of a registered midwife nurse in private practice. (Confinement $500) Defence Health Commonwealth Bank NRMA (through MBF) Grand United also pay (ask your midwife to register with them 02 9370 6712 or toll free on 1800 800 245 outside Sydney) . Government Employees Health Fund (postnatal care only) Navy Health (call 1300 30 6289 to register with them) Manchester Unity (only if your midwife has PI insurance) NIB Healthcover also will provide a one off payout if you have been a long-standing member Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 13 Aug, 2006, at 21:21, Justine Caines wrote: Dear Marie and All Australian Unity offer $2000 towards HB (I don’t know if they cover midwifery outside the home). I assume this is a planned Hosp birth with 1-2-1 Mid. MBF are now hard to deal with but even when they were good they only pay for one or the other ie HB or Hopsital services. They have in the past paid the whole amount but now you would need to fight for that. They do not advertise this at all. All arrangements are 1 off’s If the woman is going public with the Ob (Assume that’s where you’d get the support) then it should be fine. NIB offer Mid services (only $750) so pretty poor. I believe HBA also cover midwifery. I can’t find it on their site however. I would ask that even if she goes with Aust Unity that she writes to them and seeks the full amount she is charged. It is ridiculous for PH funds to pay out $5000 to $15,000 for a c/s (often with no medical indication) and yet peanuts for midwifery. But unless we ask we won’t get. Also could she please cc this to the Private Health Insurance Ombudsman (I’ll attach some points for her letter to both the PH fund and the Ombudsman below) JC Private Health Insurance Ombudsman Mr John Powlay (and this is from their site) www.phio.org.au You can raise a complaint with us by phone, email, fax or letter. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Health Insurance Ombudsman Level 7, 362 Kent Street SYDNEY NSW 2000 Complaints Hotline:1800 640 695 Telephone: (02) 8235 8777 Facsimile: (02) 8235 8778 Points to raise to PH Funds and the Ombudsman in support of Midwifery Care *There are more babies born each year than any other health procedure. Appropriate cost effective PH options re maternity will affect all policy holders. Funds offer bonuses and incentives for maximising wellness and yet with childbirth they totally promote sickness and discourage women from maintaining wellness and minimising intervention. *In private health insurance there is absolutely no competition, it is totally medically dominated. *It is also an area that is crippling health funds (so much so that smaller funds actually tell you which Obstetrician you can see as they can only afford some). *Some funds are looking at providing a midwifery benefit (as they recognise the huge cost saving) but where is the Government support?? Still no assistance with insurance. - (this would be for the Ombudsman) With insurance all funds could offer choice (that would also double as a HUGE cost saver). Importantly it would also make PHI a viable option for rural consumers (currently as most rural areas do not have private Obs or even Obs there is no point joining up). This shows what a giant waste of money PHI is in its current form. (this would be for the Ombudsman)
Re: [ozmidwifery] griffith
Hi Andrea I suggest forwarding this to Elaine Dietsch who heads the school of midwifery at Charles Sturt ... there may be some lecturers and students there who would be willing to form a Charles Sturt midwifery clinic and offer a home birth service, perhaps in collaboration with clinicians at Griffith, Leeton and Wagga Wagga? I often get requests from the Riverina and can never put the women in contact with ANYONE!! There must be some midwives down there willing to form a group practice? The two women concerned may be willing to form a Riverina Group of the Maternity Coalition and get the power of the larger group behind them in their quest. They could then write to the Minister, Mr John Hatzistergos to ask him if he knows there in no ONE-TO-ONE M IDWIFERY CARE on offer anywhere in their area other than YOU Just a thought Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 10 Aug, 2006, at 14:55, Andrea Quanchi wrote: There is definitively something happening in Griffith. I have had two women call me from Griffith in the last two weeks wanting a homebirth. I am willing to go there ( a bit over three hours from Echuca) but was wondering if anyone knows someone living closer who might be interested in being involved. Any suggestions. I was laso wondering what uni is doing mid up that way whether there was any mid students interested. Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] advise on placenta previa
Hi Paivi Your friend most likely has a bicornuate (heart shaped) uterus. There is a dip in the middle of the fundus around this time that makes the baby appear to be lying lower - sometimes like the outline of an oblique lie. The placenta is usually sited in one horn and the baby is in the other - baby very cramped, hence the strong contractions. These women usually deliver early, somewhere between 36-38 weeks. Your friend could do a search on the www uterine anomalies, bicornuate uterus would be good key words to start with. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 6 Aug, 2006, at 21:09, Päivi Laukkanen wrote: Hi again you wise women, I was just talking to a friend of mine, who is 26 wks pregnant. (First pregnancy). She has been having very strong contractions and went to see a doctor because of this. She was told, that she has a placenta previa, and the placenta goes over... (She was very confused, since the doctor didn't explain her what was going on, just kept saying: Very strange it goes over...). She had a soft cervix and also strep B. They also said, that baby is laying very low. She was send for bed rest at home and has been having contractions all the time. I know she has been hoping for an intervention free birth. Can anyone give any thoughts on this, since it's out of my knowledge and would like to learn more about it. Päivi Childbirth Educator Finland
[ozmidwifery] Fwd: TV show
Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au Begin forwarded message: From: Kat's Meow - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 17 July, 2006 00:17:45 GMT+10:00 To: 'Jan Robinson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TV show Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jan - totally unrelated - I noticed this in the TV guide and thought you might be interested (if you aren't already aware of it!) Pregnant in Two Wombs 7.30pm - 8.30pm SBS Tuesday 18 July 2006 This documentary features Claire, who is expecting two babies from two wombs. Claire, 34, was born with two wombs and two vaginas. She was told by doctors that because her wombs are half-sized she might never be able to have children, but in October 2004 - against odds of one million to one - she conceived in both her wombs at once. This documentary follows Claire and her husband David through this risky and emotionally charged pregnancy. Claire is carrying a boy in one of her wombs and a girl in the other and has been told that she has a one in four chance of giving birth to her babies prematurely. She must live with the fear that she may lose one or both of them. Consultant obstetrician and multiple birth specialist Myles Taylor of Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital knows that Claire is one of only 70 women in world medical history known to have been pregnant in two wombs. He keeps a very careful watch on the pregnancy, scanning the babies at least every fortnight, and cares for Claire as she faces a series of crises, including a potentially life-threatening blood clot and worries about the growth of the girl's head. This documentary follows Claire's exceptional pregnancy, from 24 weeks to the birth of her babies and beyond. Genre: Documentary Country: UK Language: English Rating: PG Other: Closed Captions Widescreen Duration: 60 mins Chris. Chris Rehberg (mob: 0402 91 90 92) KAT'S MEOW x-tad-smaller®/x-tad-smaller Innovative solutions for visual communication.x-tad-smaller TM/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller( PO Box 12 Lugarno 2210 )/x-tad-smaller
Re: [ozmidwifery] Get-Up website
Hi Stephen and Felicity I have today returned your petition -- great idea and nicely presented. I found it easy to contribute (not like some other web sites) Apart from GET UP AND GIVE BIRTH! type of campaigns encouraging women to seek and demand midwifery care, I would like to see all Governments petitioned regarding their total discrimination against women and midwives. Both State and Federal Governments have ignored all submission put to them by our Society (see below) for Medicare provider numbers and indemnity insurance assistance as provided for both obstetricians and GPs who provide pregnancy and birth services in the public domain. Although Government response has always been you're private, so get your own insurance there is a way independent midwives could provide the home birth choice for ALL women if they were appointed as HON. VISITING MIDWIVES to their Area Health Boards. To gain an appointment (and Medicare provider number) the IPMs would provide certain hours of work gratis for the midwifery students and new graduate midwives in their area. If you can think of a simple way to put this ... perhaps as a slogan on your website ... I'd be eternally grateful. Keep up the good work - your site is extremely visible and motivational. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 5 Jul, 2006, at 12:46, Stephen Felicity wrote: The Joyous Birth community is organising a Get Up petition addressing the current abysmal state of affairs in QLD (the Midwifery witchhunts). You need to be a registered member of JB to access the forum and view the discussion relating to this, but here's some relevant information I've cut from the discussion for those on the list interested in getting active about birthing issues:- If you have a good idea for a new GetUp campaign on an important national issue, then we would love to hear about it. If you can, tell us the focus of the campaign and suggest the action the campaign would ask our members to take. Send your campaign ideas to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. All campaigns ideas are read and sorted by our staff, but unfortunately we can't respond simply because of the volume of emails we receive. For media enquiries, please visit the Media page. GetUp is a trademark of GetUp Limited (A.B.N. 99 114 027 986). GetUp Ltd Level 7, 280 Pitt St Sydney NSW 2000 Phone 02 9264 4039 x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerKelly @ BellyBelly/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:17 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [ozmidwifery] Get-Up website/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI came across a website recently called Get-Up (/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerhttp://www.getup.org.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger)/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger What is GetUp? x-tad-smallerGetUp is a new political movement to build a more progressive Australia. /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerGetUp brings together like-minded people who want to bring participation back into our democracy. GetUp.org.au members use the latest online tools to act on the most important issues facing the country./x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-biggerI had a brainwave (one of the few LOL!) - perhaps someone could contact them about getting some birthing issues on there? It’s all so very easy to get petitions set up and sent to the government, I had a look through their campaigns and signed some petitions the other week and they get HUGE responses and have a great site using great technology to make it all the easier. Anyone interested in contacting them? Hopefully we can pass on all the evidence we saw at the homebirth conference to help bring birth back home and help rural birthing mothers./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerBest Regards,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerKelly Zantey/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCreator, /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerBellyBelly.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerGentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerBellyBelly Birth Support/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] MOY interview
Hi Mary CONGRATULATIONS - Wonder Woman from the West You deserve this award more than anyone else I know - Your consistent promotion of midwifery services, support of less experienced colleagues, dissemination of new knowledge to your peers and always being available to women seeking a midwife choice despite a sometimes negative political climate puts you ahead of the rest. Enjoy the day Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 5 May, 2006, at 10:07, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-biggerSorry, I just realized that will only be broadcast in WA. I hope they do interviews in other states for IMD, MM/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] Herbal tea for swelling in pregnancy
Another remedy is to partake of at least one meal of FRESH diuretic vegetables each day, • Plenty of celery, cucumber, lettuce and other green leafy types • Drink water only (and at least eight glasses) NO TEA, COFFEE, JUICES • RECLINE for half hour each afternoon in a LATERAL position (left best unless uncomfortable on that side) Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 13 Apr, 2006, at 07:58, Johnsonhere wrote: Kaz Cooke talks about using Dandelion leaf tea in Up the Duff. Lots of trips to the loo though. Other option is lots of water to flush system out. - Original Message From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Herbal tea for swelling in pregnancy Date: 13/04/2006 00:01 The name of it has lost me, I remember there being a herbal tea you can drink in pregnancy to help with fluid retention#8230; currently supporting a woman who has been checked out for PE and all is fine, but she has swelling in her face and would like to know anything she can do to help. Thanks in advance! Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly..com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support nbsp; Dodo - an Official Sponsor of the 2006 FORMULA 1 (tm) Foster's Australian Grand Prix -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re :Politics
Hello Lyle There's a great opportunity not to be missed here. Invite this guy to come up to your hospital to talk to the midwives and mothers about how he intends to improve the maternity services in his electorate. Is he going to put pressure on Mr Hazistergos to endorse more one-to-one models of midwifery care in your area!(If the midwives are up to it, that is.) Also you could suggest to him that he put pressure on the AHS Board to appoint the home birth midwives in your area as visiting midwives and assist them with insurance. Until this politician understands that the women in your area need to have a primary care midwife provide one-to-one care during their pregnancies, labours and births (instead of so called shared care options) then he doesn't have much to boast about to the women does he? How do your birth outcomes compare with elsewhere in the state? Are there women in your hospital that are less than happy with the maternity services? Would they and the midwives want to see a positive change? Do you have many midwives in your hospital who belong to the Maternity Coalition? Have they read the Mat. Coalition's National Action Plan for Maternity Services? Talk to the local women before you invite this politician up to your hospital - perhaps to speak to the midwives first. Be interesting to see if he puts your suggestion in the too hard basket but if he doesn't support world's best practice then he doesn't get to speak to the women - it's as simple as that. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 12 Feb, 2006, at 08:49, Lyle Burgoyne wrote: Hi, I work in a NSW public hospital as a midwife and our local state member has given us consent forms to get the mothers to fill in to give him permission to to send them a congratulatory card after the birth of there baby.He is a member of the current government party and holds his seat by a very slim margin .Am I being cynical in thinking this is politics sinking to another low to get votes ?Or is he just being nice and geting to know his new constituents??? Is it happenning at any other hospitals? I really dont think it is my job to do this for him or any other politician .What do others think?? Thanks Lyle -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Brisbane midwife
Contact Kerrie Paul Mary, she will fill you in. Happy New Year Love Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 8 Jan, 2006, at 11:54, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-biggerCould someone give me details of any homebirth midwives practicing in Brisbane. Please email me off line if you don’t want to be public. Thanks, Mary Murphy /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] NATIONAL HOME BIRTH AWARENESS WEEK
Anything is better than nothing Mary - keep up the great work to raise the home birth midwife profile - as you have always done Love Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 25 Oct, 2005, at 10:14, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-biggerJan, I know this sounds like a great idea, but where am I going to get the time for all those phone calls??. I will have to try another way- perhaps our regular get together on the first Thursday of the month will have to do. Cheers, MM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJan Robinson/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Tuesday, 25 October 2005 7:42 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [ozmidwifery] NATIONAL HOME BIRTH AWARENESS WEEK/x-tad-bigger To all ASIM members and any midwives who have been involved in home births Call your clients this week and tell them how much you value their support Pop in with a cake to see some house-bound mother with little children Keep the good-will going Have a wonderful week spreading the good word about home births The more you give - the more you'll get Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] need some guidance
Hi Debbie If you can get in touch with Noeline Lang who works at Bathurst - she may be able to provide some helpful advice. All the best with your new venture Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 29 Oct, 2005, at 12:17, Debbie wrote: Hi All, I am a new midwife completed CSU Wagga studies in 2004, near the end of a postgrad year at Orange Base Hosp presently. I have been approached by a couple that are expecting their first baby in March. They would like a homebirth midwife. I would love to support this womans' and partners' choice. They are newly married 4/12 don't have much $$ well who does when you're starting out. I have a passion for home birth but have not been involved in any. No one is presently operating independently here. I have lots of Q's and need all equipment and documentation. Due to personal budget constraints is there possibility of hiring the necessary equip? Can anybody direct me to someone for back up support and all the logistics. This woman is presently going through the Midwives Clinic here in Orange. Eager to hear, learn and provide a professional service for this woman and her family. In Anticipation Debbie Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ozmidwifery] NATIONAL HOME BIRTH AWARENESS WEEK
To all ASIM members and any midwives who have been involved in home births Call your clients this week and tell them how much you value their support Pop in with a cake to see some house-bound mother with little children Keep the good-will going Have a wonderful week spreading the good word about home births The more you give - the more you'll get Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dutch midwives
Hi Sadie You can email Tine Oudshoorne re her availability when your colleague will be in Holland. She is always hospitable and has a wealth of knowledge about the midwifery profession in both the Netherlands and Europe Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 19 Oct, 2005, at 19:02, Sadie wrote: Hi, One of my colleagues is going to Holland soon to visit her relatives, and while she is there she would love to catch up with some fellow midwives for coffee and chat. Would any of our 'ozmidders' in Holland be interested in emailing their contact details to me off list? Thanks, Sadie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] 'Breech birth woman wise'
Wacko Tina and well done You can now join the increasing numbers of standing breech converts Congratulate your colleagues please Regards Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 20 Oct, 2005, at 11:29, Jenny Cameron wrote: Fantastic Tina, a magic midwifery moment. Wish there were more. Jenny Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACM President NT branch ACMI PO Box 1465 Howard Springs NT 0835 08 8983 1926 0419 528 717 x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerTina Pettigrew/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCc:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:45 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [ozmidwifery] 'Breech birth woman wise'/x-tad-bigger Hi everyone, tis me againjust wanted to share with you that last Friday while I was working in our family birthing unit I had the most awesome of experiences.. being midwife for a woman with an undiagnosed breech birthWoo Hoo!!! Poor Janine and my fellow midwives at Geelong have had to put up with me walking around with a smile too big for my facesimply one of the most awesome births I have witnessed as this strong and powerful woman birthed her breech baby in the standing position.The baby, a frank breech, just birthed beautifully into my and the woman's third year B Mid follow thru students handsIt was truly and all BMid affair, with the birthing woman herself a 3rd year BMid student!!! What also adds to the splendor of this birth was that unbeknown to the BMid student and I, the consultant obstetrican did make into the birth but just kept quiet and stood at the back of the room and watched as we facilitated the birth (well we did nothing really as 'hands off the breech' came flooding back from my midwifery education) we just supported/reassured and held the space for the woman who stood strong and powerful and breathed out her baby daughter.I can't stop smiling as on reflection I can't believe that this OB got to witness 'breech birth woman wise'a totally midwifery approach to breech birth!! The baby was born in good condition, Apgars of 6 at 1 and 9 at 5...a quick check over by the paed and she was straight back into her mothers armsthe birth topped off with a wonderful physiological third stage!! For those of you close to me, you know that I have had a rough trot the past few months with my midwiferybut such experiences as this help to restore one's faith in the 'power of woman' and reignite the spark that fuels the flame of my passion for midwifery and woman's innate knowlege and wisdom to birth. Trusting in the process of birth, women, and our skills as midwives has always been at the core of my midwifery philosophy...to truly work in partnership with women and trust in their innate abilities to birth safely and joyously is a totally empowering experience...not just for the woman but also for the midwife!!! Maggie Bank's book 'breech birth woman wise' has taken on a whole new meaning for meI continue to be amazed at what woman teach us if we are just humble enough to watch and listen. Yours in reforming midwifery, Tina Pettigrew. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/70 - Release Date: 29/09/2005
Re: [ozmidwifery] Letter to the Ed published!
Congratulations Tania Public awareness and furthering education begins with people like you Best regards Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 16 Oct, 2005, at 17:30, Tania Smallwood wrote: x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFollowing the article in the Adelaide Advertiser last week about our private hospital caesarean section rates, I am amazed that I had this letter printed, first letter on the page, big headline, wow!/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerMany birth Choices for mothers…/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerIt sadly comes as no surprise to those of us in involved in the birth consumer groups in SA that some private hospitals have excessively high caesarean section rates. We are witness to the incongruence of the system on a daily basis, with hundreds of women a year accessing us for information and support, both before and after their births. /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerMany of these women are looking for answers to why their birth journey was not as they had envisaged it, and ways in which to make it better next time. The fact that many women don’t know what their choices are precludes them from making truly informed decisions, and heavily impacts on their outcomes physically, mentally and emotionally./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe Birth matters consumer support group runs regular birth choices seminars, aimed to inform women and their families of all their choices regarding the different types of pregnancy care available, place of birth, pain-relief options and pros and cons of interventions in labour and birth, just to mention a few of the topics covered./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI would like to second Sandra Kanck’s appeal for women to become more educated in this most important and transforming time of their lives, and to be truly in the driver’s seat when it comes to their birth. For further information about the next birth matters seminar, coming up in November, I am happy to be contacted via email…./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTania Smallwood/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHow’s that!!!/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTania/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerXx (waiting for the influx of registrations for the next seminar!)/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] Wyong
Thanks for passing on this news Di Please give all the midwives my best wishes - especially Val I hope the Wyong midwives will now form a sub-branch of the Maternity Coalition with the local women - through them you will continue to move from strength to strength. Make sure you include one of the more articulate women on your 'policies and procedures' committee and make sure she is at every meeting the Wyong midwives have. The local medicos will continue to try and erode your program, but they will always take notice of the women standing beside you Go to www.maternitycoalition.org.au to find out how to form a group Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 20 Sep, 2005, at 11:06, diane wrote: Im a midwife at Wyong just north of Gosford. We have a long established, wonderful midwifery led low risk unit with big baths in all three rooms. New unit opened in Feb this year, team model of care, and hopefully soon caseload care also, BUT., the unit has been closed for births and has been since May. The official spiel stated the SHORT!!! term closure is because of staffing issues which are not very well specified on the few occasions it has been in the media. The ED doctors who provide back up care in case of neonatal probs are the ones with staffing and industrial issues and the families of the Wyong shire are paying the price. Often that price, especially for the primips, is the obligatory CS or ventouse. There is a lovely new postnatal unit at Wyong, with 14 single rooms for those who wish to stay. I believe we are avoiding the Midwifery Led terminology and are using something along the lines of Primary Maternity Care unit. We have always had obstetric cover and i believe this is to continue in those cases where transfer to Gosford is not advised Cheers Di.
[ozmidwifery] Ina May's quote of the week
Hi all Probably Mary has already pasted this but couldn't resist sharing it again in case some midwives missed it. I came upon it on Ina May's website Cheers Jan x-tad-smallerIt's not just the making of babies, but the making of /x-tad-smallerx-tad-biggermothers/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger that midwives see as the miracle of birth. /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger -- Barbara Katz Rothman, Sociologist, Author of /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerThe Tentative Pregnancy/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger, /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerGenetic Maps and Human Imaginations/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger and other books. /x-tad-bigger Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats
Hi Tania, Sue et al Many stats are never reported. The point I was trying to make was that most members of the public (lay people) would not be aware of the Public Health Act (or other relevant Acts) that affect maternity care in their state or territory. Women who choose to birth unattended may not have anyone with any knowledge of state laws in attendance. Often a mother, other relative or close friend attends the birth and they would not be expected to have knowledge of the Public Health Acts. That's what their health professional is supposed to update them on. New parents mostly go and get their baby registered as without a birth certificate they can't claim the relevant family allowances through CentreLink. Even then our Births Deaths and Marriages Department tells me that many itinerant workers do not bother to register their child until it comes time to start school. BDM assure me they do not prosecute parents for late registration. The fact that some children are not registered until they are older means that the home birth data constantly alters. When I talked to BDM last week they gave me ten more home births (recently submitted) to add to the numbers for the year 2003. I regularly participate in refresher programs for registered midwives and I'm sorry to report that many of the refreshing midwives DO NOT HAVE A CLUE on what Acts govern their practice (other than the Nurses Acts). Nor do many of my colleagues working in public hospitals. They simply avoid the issue that they see as being the responsibility of the ward clerk. I'm sure Sue must get very frustrated when she is sticking her neck out to do the right thing while her so called 'professional colleagues' do not. I should remind all on this list that ignorance is not seen as an excuse in the eyes of the law. Any registered midwife that fails to furnish the completed NOTIFICATION OF BIRTH FORM with the matching data to the NSW MIDWIVES DATA COLLECTION runs a huge risk of a large fine and/or a jail sentence. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 16 Sep, 2005, at 08:36, Tania Smallwood wrote: x-tad-biggerWhat actually happens when women choose to birth unattended? Are their stats just lost, or never reported? Surely a woman could do her own stats and post them in without the fear of being punished for holding herself out to be a midwife? I have been wondering about that here in SA, where there are several women I know of, and probably lots that no-one hears about that choose to birth in this way, and wondering how they are accounted for in the numbers? /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTania/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJan Robinson/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Thursday, 15 September 2005 4:30 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats/x-tad-bigger Hi Andrea Yes it is a huge discrepancy but the law only relates to births attended by registered doctors or midwives. Registered health professionals have an obligation to report the details of each birth they attend whether they occur at home or in a hospital. They have to provide the NOTIFICATION OF BIRTH to BDM and submit the perinatal data to the appropriate department of their Dept of Health. It is the parents responsibility to register the birth of their child. I assume that MOST of the unreported home births are that way because lay people would be unaware of their state laws. Individuals who are aware of the laws also understand that if they DO report any births that they attend also run the risk of holding themselves out to be a midwife and that is PUNISHABLE by law. It would be interesting for midwives to approach their own state/territory Dept of BDM as to the number of babies registered as being born at their home address and then get the figures from the perinatal data collections to compare. Anyone want to get cracking in their state? I'd love to get data from around the country. I have some Tasmanian figures and I have some from Victoria but they are not as easy to interpret as the NSW data. At the moment we are using the NSW figures to try and convince the Health Minister to publicly fund the home births and therefore provide a legitimate choice of skilled home birth practitioner for ALL women wanting a home birth. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Cresc
Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats
Hi Andrea Yes it is a huge discrepancy but the law only relates to births attended by registered doctors or midwives. Registered health professionals have an obligation to report the details of each birth they attend whether they occur at home or in a hospital. They have to provide the NOTIFICATION OF BIRTH to BDM and submit the perinatal data to the appropriate department of their Dept of Health. It is the parents responsibility to register the birth of their child. I assume that MOST of the unreported home births are that way because lay people would be unaware of their state laws. Individuals who are aware of the laws also understand that if they DO report any births that they attend also run the risk of holding themselves out to be a midwife and that is PUNISHABLE by law. It would be interesting for midwives to approach their own state/territory Dept of BDM as to the number of babies registered as being born at their home address and then get the figures from the perinatal data collections to compare. Anyone want to get cracking in their state? I'd love to get data from around the country. I have some Tasmanian figures and I have some from Victoria but they are not as easy to interpret as the NSW data. At the moment we are using the NSW figures to try and convince the Health Minister to publicly fund the home births and therefore provide a legitimate choice of skilled home birth practitioner for ALL women wanting a home birth. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 15 Sep, 2005, at 08:23, Andrea Quanchi wrote: Jan that is a huge discrepancy, How many of these ones not reported to Data Collection are attended by registered midwives do you think? Surely the data collection could approach these people not reporting, through the births deaths and marriages, through the families that they are attending to cover the privacy issues, informing them of their duty to report and where they can access the data collection material. You wont get all of them but you might get some more. Are they scared of being identified if they are not registered? Maybe it needs to be free from this issue if you want the data Andrea On 15/09/2005, at 7:58 AM, Jan Robinson wrote: Hi Andrea, Denise et al I have just been in touch with our Dept of Births Deaths and Marriages again for an update on babies registered as being born at home. The numbers change each year as there are some people who don't register their child until they need to go to school so I get updates for each year. So far what we have in NSW is actual number of home births registered number of PLANNED HOME BIRTHS reported to perinatal data collection (NSW Midwives Data Collection) 1999 493139 2000 394108 2001 388144 2002 322 99 2003 383109 2004 359don't have the 2004 figures from NSWMD collection yet - hope to have them soon - the BDM are much more organised with data collection but I guess that is because they have motivated providers of their data (the parents). Even though there has been a law since the 1990s that states all doctors and midwives who attend home births must submit their data - the NSWMD knows a lot of health professionals fail to report. There is no law that states unattended home births have to be reported to the NSWMDC. 2005 to date 197 You can see there is quiet a difference in the records I'd love some budding Master's student to get busy on this one as I won't have time for it until I retire and that won't be until we get the home births publicly funded across the country. I feel sure that if primary care midwives had the medicare provider number a lot of those unattended women would have a registered midwife with them for the birth. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 14 Sep, 2005, at 22:35, Andrea Quanchi wrote: it doesnt say but they would be able to tell you. They are quite forethcoming with info or you may be able to get it from their website as a lot of the past documents are on there. I havent got time tonight to look Andrea Q On 14/09/2005, at 6:35 PM, Denise Hynd wrote: Dear Andrea Have these BBA births in Vic increased since the loss of MIPP insurance and some midwives withdrawing from practice?? Jan Robinson said there was an increased in these births there possibly some more un assisted hombirths in NSW over this period!! She found this by comparing the midwife and birth notification figures because the latter would include women who birthed at home a
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birthing options around Gosford - help please
Hi Julie Talk to Carolyn Hastie in the first instance Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 2 Sep, 2005, at 18:15, Julie Clarke wrote: x-tad-biggerHi/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger I have just received a ‘phone call from a very excited friend who is 8 weeks pregnant, who lives at Gosford, and has asked my advice about her birthing options in that area… I am hoping my ozmid friends will be able to fill me in on details as I am unsure…/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerWarm hug/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJulie/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger Julie Clarke CBE x-tad-biggerIndependent Childbirth and Parenting Educator/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerACE Grad Dip Supervisor/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerNACE Advanced Educator and Trainer/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerNACE National Journal Editor/x-tad-bigger Transition into Parenthood Sessions x-tad-bigger9 Withybrook Place/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSylvania NSW 2224/x-tad-bigger Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-tad-biggervisit Julie's website: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerwww.transitionintoparenthood.com.au/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] Rural doctors group supports small birthing units
Thanks for this Andrea Watch for the two page spread in the Sunday Telegraph next Sunday Public awareness is certainly beginning to work in our favour. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 16 Aug, 2005, at 22:23, Andrea Quanchi wrote: Found this on the ABC website and thought it was a good sign that at least some doctors recognise the benefits that small birthing services have to offer. Andrea Quanchi Public urged to back rural birthing services. 16/08/2005. ABC News Online http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1438285.htm The Rural Doctors Association of Australia is encouraging women to take advantage of birthing services in their towns to help retain the services The association says studies have shown that small *** DISCLAIMER *** This message was sent to you using the Send to a friend facility on ABC Online (http://www.abc.net.au). To make a comment about this email, contact us: http://www.abc.net.au/contact/ Be sure to also include this entire email message. The ABC is not responsible for the content of this email, and anything said in this email does not necessarily reflect the ABC's views. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Finding Tina
Try Tina Pettigrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 6 Aug, 2005, at 23:04, Robyn Thompson wrote: Can anyone help me with a current email address for Tina Pettigrew, my last email bounced back? Regards, Robyn
Re: [ozmidwifery] accreta
Yes Jan Some years ago in Bankstown hospital - a similar thing happened. The patient did not want to go to theatre and asked the obstetrician what alternatives she had. The obstetrician was willing to go along with conservative management. i.e. • cutting the cord short • providing antibiotic cover • waiting expectantly • daily observations The placenta dropped out six days later in the toilet. No infection, no undue bleeding ... I think the woman went home a day or two later. The staff at Bankstown could tell you more about this case. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 9 Jul, 2005, at 13:35, Janet Ireland wrote: Love when i have never heard of this has anyone had experience with accreta where the placenta is left to come away itself ie in this case 3 mths later , jan
Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth of twins
So happy for you Sue - what a wonderful start to the winter break. Can't wait to get up to Byron and hear more details. Lots of egg flips and parsley and pineapple smoothies for the new mother and a lots of hugs for you Love Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 6 Jul, 2005, at 08:48, Sue Cookson wrote: Hi everyone, I thought to let you know about a lovely homebirth of twins on Monday 4th July. Two little boys, 6lb7oz and 5lb 12oz, born 10.5 hours apart. SRM 3.30 am and birth of baby #1 at 6.49am. Then a few hours where ctxs were fairly regular but not so strong unless baby#1 was breastfeeding. You could see the second baby positioning itself and the uterus working hard to pull down into shape for baby#2. I'd clamped the cord of baby#1 after 10 mins in case of bleedthrough, and clamped the other end as well so that the placenta retained its size until after baby#2 was born. After about 4 hours I asked to check baby #2 position. It was too hard to palpate so I did a VE and found head there, not well applied, but there. Cervix was 9 ish cms. So we waited, fetal heart always good and strong. Set up the pool and mother relaxed for an hour or so with ctxs beginning to pick up again. She decided to hop out and at 5.05 pm baby#2 emerged in his caul. She birthed the placenta unaided 35 minutes later. Blood loss 300ml. (Her Hb and ferritin levels were both low). It was a huge leap of faith, but there was nothing happening to raise any alarm bells. Both babies are really gorgeous, feeding well and very happy. I am once again humbled by the strength of women Sue -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] lotus placenta
Good on you Mary - and the wonderful Joondalup staff. It's great to see so many living up to their title - and truly being WITH WOMAN Hope someone is writing a letter on behalf of this wonder-woman and her baby. The medicos need thanks for being so supportive too - what a great team you have there -all working towards 'best outcomes'. Regards Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 5 Jul, 2005, at 21:58, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-biggerI have just attended verrry long primip labour, which culminated in a caesarean section. The woman had valiantly striven for a normal birth at home and planned a lotus birth, where the umbilical cord and placenta is kept intact (in a special bag) until it drops off in 4-6 days or so. When she realized she couldn’t birth her baby vaginally, she was desperate to still have a lotus birth. The paediatrician was puzzled not hopeful and the surgeon was adamant that it couldn’t be done. However, it was! She is now sitting up in her hospital bed with her baby and her placenta and so thrilled. It has so eased her mind over the unexpected C/S. and comforted her that the baby will get the benefits of keeping the placenta attached. Many thanks to the staff at Joondalup Health Campus for making this possible and for being patient with her over her insistence that the cord not be cut. Blood for cord gasses was taken and found the O2 to be very good. A great outcome. Once again women’s courage continues to amaze me. The latest issue of Mothering Magazine has a great article by Sarah Buckley about the placenta and how it forms and functions. A really informative read for midwives and mothers (and anyone else). Cheers, MM/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] hypnotherapy
There's a great little book recently available called 25 ways to awaken your BIRTH POWER by Danette Watson and Stephanie Corkhill Hyles This book and CD set are unique: they are part-visualisation, affirmation, breathing exercise and relaxation. Music by the Mozart Effect's Don Campbell will enhance your clients birth preparation and inspire integration of mind, body and spirit. It is great value at $29.95 and you can order it by going to www.awakenyourbirthpower.com or phone 02 6383 3553 fax 02 6383 3587 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 28 Jun, 2005, at 20:41, Dean Jo wrote: x-tad-biggerCould anyone on list from SA give me an idea of anyone offering Hypnotherapy/Visualization for pregnant women here in Adelaide? WCH were doing a bit of a trial but they are not anymore./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCheers/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJo/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 6/27/2005
Re: [ozmidwifery] Mareeba Midwifery Service
GOOD ON YOU MAREEBA MIDWIVES Happy babies grow from happy birth days Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Jun, 2005, at 10:35, Judy Chapman wrote: ..is up and running today, have had two babies this morning. They must have been crossing the legs waiting though my woman was always going to birth here because her last labour was precipitate. Lovely way to celebrate a new beginning. Cheers Judy Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] looking for Janie Paul-Smith
That could be great Kim - I have a Christmas card that is two years old now and really want to re-establish contact with Janie - she did a resfresher course with me many years ago when she was working in Sydney, also can I get the address of the NZ midwives list from you? Would be good to have in my address book. I only have the NZ College address plus a few academics. Cheers Jan PS getting closer to solving the PI insurance problem - hope there is some good news soon Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 23 Jun, 2005, at 20:42, Kim Stead wrote: Jan - would you like me to post this to the NZ Midwives list for you?? Kim ---Original Message--- x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerDate:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger 20/06/2005 7:47:31 a.m./x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [ozmidwifery] looking for Janie Paul-Smith/x-tad-bigger Hi ozmidders If anyone from NZ is lurking here I am anxious to re-establish contact with Janie Paul-Smith who I believe is now back home in NZ. She may be practising under the name of Paul or Smith If anyone knows of Janie's whereabouts please ask her to contact me Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au imstp_emo_en.gif>
[ozmidwifery] looking for Janie Paul-Smith
Hi ozmidders If anyone from NZ is lurking here I am anxious to re-establish contact with Janie Paul-Smith who I believe is now back home in NZ. She may be practising under the name of Paul or Smith If anyone knows of Janie's whereabouts please ask her to contact me Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
[ozmidwifery] Re: Travelling to MIDWIVES2005?
Hi travel gurus If any Australian midwife wants a tax-deductible bus tour on the way to the ICM we have four seats vacant on our bus. Interested parties should contact us via www.midwiferyaustralia.com.au in the first instance. Any midwife traveling on the midwiferyaustralia bus will be assured of having a week's close encounter with o/s midwives from Hong Kong, USA and New Zealand. They will also be guaranteed to meet Australian clinicians and academics each day of the tour. Lots of fun and wonderful scenery to boot. In the meantime - look forward to collecting my satchel from the meeting planners on Sunday. Cheers Jan Robinson Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 17 Jun, 2005, at 13:56, The Meeting Planners wrote: Travelling to MIDWIVES2005? Want to save time AND get the best possible airfare to MIDWIVES2005? Send your travel request through to Corporate Travel Management and let the experts take care of the rest. Phone toll free 1800 630 866 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or complete the webpage enquiry form www.travelctm.com/enq/MIDWIVES2005.htm
[ozmidwifery] Fwd: Aden Ridgeway Valedictory Speech
Hi ozmidders If anyone wants to listen to the Senate broadcast next Wednesday - the details are posted below. Senator Ridgeway has always been strong in his support of midwives during his term in office (and has attended most of the MC NSW rallies and hosted both our insurance meetings in the Senate Committee Rooms at Parliament House May and June) so it would be great for as many midwives as possible to wish him luck before his final speech. You can send best wishes to Aden via Liz Willis (see email address below) Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au Begin forwarded message: From: Willis, Liz \(Sen A. Ridgeway\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 17 June, 2005 12:34:45 GMT+10:00 Subject: Aden Ridgeway Valedictory Speech Many people have been contacting our office wanting to know when Aden will be giving his final speech in the Senate. The best we can get at this stage is sometime between 9.30am and 2pm on Wednesday 22 June. The reason for the vagueness is that there are 15 Senators retiring on 30 June, so there are not only 15 individual speeches to get through, but there will also be many other Senators who will want to pay tribute to some, or all, of the 15. The valedictories will start Tuesday night from 6-11pm and continue Wednesday from 9.30-2. ABC News Radio is scheduled to broadcast the Senate on the Wednesday till 2pm. News Radio frequencies are as follows Canberra 1440 AM Brisbane 936 AM Sydney 630 AM Newcastle 1458 AM Melbourne 1026 AM Hobart 747 AM Adelaide 972 AM Perth 585 AM Darwin 102.5 FM Gold Coast 95.7 FM Gosford 98.1 FM Northern Tasmania 92.5 FM Of course you Canberra-based mob can be there in the Senate public gallery. I'll let you know when we are able to get an idea of more definite times but that may not be till the Wed morn. In the meantime if you can pass this info through your networks that would be helpfulthanks Liz Liz Willis Senator Aden Ridgeway's Office 0417 410 506 02 98188422 www.adenridgeway.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Albury/Wodonga
Hi Jus Joy Cocks [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robyn Thompson Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 14 Jun, 2005, at 10:18, Justine Caines wrote: Dear All Does anyone know of an independent midwife covering the Albury/Wodonga area?? Many Thanks Justine Justine Caines Secretary Homebirth Australia PO Box 105 Merriwa NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65482248 E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.homebirthaustralia.org
Re: [ozmidwifery] Joyous Birth reminder - 25th June
Thanks for this Janet I'll put it in the next Communique. The hands have been a great success and attracted much attention at our Insurance Summit yesterday. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 14 Jun, 2005, at 09:30, Janet Fraser wrote: x-tad-biggerJoyous Birth/x-tad-bigger is turning One! x-tad-bigger/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerCome celebrate home birth!/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJoin us for our anniversary bash. Beautiful food, belly dancing, artwork, inspiration, birth stories and, as ever, lots of support!/x-tad-biggerWhere: 7 Abercorn Avenue Ivanhoe VIC 3079 When: 6pm Saturday 25 June 2005 How much: $10 a head - children and midwives free For more information Janet 9499 8954, Tracey 9727 2040 We will alsobe signing letters and hands for the ongoing indemnity campaign! Joyous Birth Home Birth Forum - a world first! http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/ Accessing Artemis Birth Trauma Recovery http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis
Re: [ozmidwifery] Hi
Hi Jeannine, Roz Donnellen-Fernandez would be the best person to approach. She is ASIM's official representative for South Australia. Good luck with your studies and your move Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 9 Jun, 2005, at 11:16, JoFromOz wrote: Jeannine Bradow wrote: Hello list, I'm Jeannine, wife, mum (2kids and 2 dogs) and midwife. I was on the list some years ago and have had a break away. I was wondering if there is anyone on the list currently working in Adelaide in Mid who can give me some inside info on services available, models of care, best places to work etc. I will be moving there from th NT at the end of the year. I'm also doing my masters in midwifery at the moment so if anyone has information on access to library services, universities in adelaide, or any interesting mid articles or texts they'd like to share would be appreciated also. If anyone out there just wants to chat and compare notes I'd love to. Nean -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. Hi Jeannine, Did you used to work at the Northern Hospital in Epping, by any chance? Jo (was Zoch - now Watson) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] MidResearch
Hi Kate I think the right arm is used exclusively so that we all collect blood pressure data from pregnant women in the same way. The woman's BP recordings can then be scientifically compared with BP data collected from other pregnant women. The initiative of gathering comparative data globally came from an international group of researchers looking at hypertension in pregnancy (all hypertension specialists) many years ago. I can't remember the name of the group - perhaps someone else on this list knows it? The group recommended that professionals involved in maternity care should use the same assessment techniques globally to assist collection of reliable research data. Australian midwives can be assured that if they record a pregnant woman's BP using the appropriate cuff applied to the right arm, with the woman sitting and feet supported, that the data they collect can be safely compared with that collected from an pregnant Inuit woman living in Alaska. That's my understanding Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 2 Jun, 2005, at 19:15, Kate /or Nick wrote: I'm keen to see anything on this too. I did a search on it a few weeks ago, and discovered that in all people, the dominant arm tends to have a higher BP. So I guess you take it on the right arm because most women are right handed and you want the higher BP from a PE perspective? Also, sitting/supine affects BP. I did find these: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=9219119dopt=Abstract http://www.greenjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/55/3/285 which might help. Please let me know if you find anything else. Kate - Original Message - From: Ceri Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MidResearch On the topic of research, does anyone have any evidence on why we take BP on the right arm antenatally?? And any other guidelines or evidence on 'how' to take the BP??? thanks Katrina -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] PI INSURANCE FOR MIDWIVES
is not in the best interests of healthy pregnant women. I'm sure you all have plenty of arguments for supporting rural midwives who provide primary care, especially to aboriginal women - start getting them incorporated into a letter now! Yours in continuity of care Jan PS. At this point in time, the words I want to see included in our national political statement are FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORKING WITH PRIVATE RESOURCES TO ESTABLISH PRIMARY MIDWIFERY CARE FOR AUSTRALIAN WOMEN Please put up the words YOU would like to hear on this chat line and/or send them directly to the convenor of the Insurance Meetings, Claire Bunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello from a HypnoBirthing practioner
You might like to contact Christina Oudshoorne Marietje. She may be able to help you. Her email address is here in the cc box. Have a wonderful trip. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 18 May, 2005, at 17:57, Marietje Stuckey wrote: Hi all I have been reading all the interesting postings and find them most informative. I am a HypnoBirthing practioner in Melbourne, Next week on the 27th of May I am flying to the Nederlands and would like to spend some time with a midwife . I will be in Holland for 5 weeks. I have been in contact with Beatrijs Smulders who give me a couple of e-mail contacts but with computer breakdowns I have not been successful in arranging anything. I see this trip overseas as a fantastic opportunity to broaden my knowledge in the birthing area. If anyone reading this could be of any assist in regards with contacts in Holland please contact me ASAP. Thanks very much for taking the time to read this. Hope to hear from someone soon. Happy Birthing Marietje Stcukey
Re: [ozmidwifery] ICM
Hi Cheryl Usually all the programs are in the Congress satchel that you pick up at the Registration Desk when you arrive. It's a good idea to go along and register the evening before the Congress officially opens so you have plenty of time to decide what programs you want to attend the next day. Email the organisers and ask them to clarify this. If you or any of your colleagues are coming to Sydney first Robyn Thompson and myself would love to show you the beautiful coast of NSW (as well as meet Australian midwives along the way) through our Midwifery Australia pre-congress Professional Tour. Check out www.midwiferyaustralia.com.auif you are interested in exploring this option further. Jan Robinson Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 17 May, 2005, at 19:25, Cheryl LHK wrote: Just need some more info. Have sent (and paid) the application to attend the ICM in Brisbane in July. But have received no further information regarding the four days, which lectures I can choose from etc, jsut the confirmation e-mail and receipt. Has anyone else recieved more than this, or are they still processing things? Cheryl -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal breech birth
You will Kim One day a little breech baby will seek you out and you'll be fine supporting it's mother. Make sure you all support this student and buy her a copy of Maggie Banks book Breech Birth Woman-Wise so she knows there is another way. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 24 Apr, 2005, at 16:19, Kim Stead wrote: Hi again Not sure what happened in theatre as I only heard about it afterwards but it sounded pretty straight forward after the initialpanic and getting to theatre before mum birthed her baby herself. What was really disappointing is the two people involved - a clinical nurse educator and student midwife.I don'tblame the student at all but think someone supposedly experienced enoughto be in a teaching role, should have known better and acted accordingly.. Afterwards the student was very overwhelmed and the nurse educator repeatedly kept saying, thank god we got her to theatre and saved her!!! I wascompletely speechless about the whole event. What message does this student take away from this situation and how will this affect her future midwifery practice??? I've never been fortunate enough to be present at a breech birth butknowing the mechanisms and rules of hands off etc, think that wewould all be capableof supporting mum to birth this baby herself. There is always senior staff on hand but perhaps that is where the problem lays?Just thinking out loud. I prey that I get to see this and vaginal twin birth before I retire. Kim ---Original Message--- x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerDate:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger 04/24/05 12:54:07/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] ENDING GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MIDWIVES/x-tad-bigger yes this was very much a planned breech birth. we have a breech-very keen obstetrician and there have been 4 at that hospital this week including 2 breech twins. (this one was actually caught by the MW with him in the room) the mum's attitude too, was such a huge part of it i think. she just thought 'why wouldnt i be able to birth her??' so she birthed her on the birth stool with no troubles :) what happened once in theatre kim? Kim Stead [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thatsounds wonderful Emily. I 'assume' is was a known/planned breech birth??The last one at our hospital was an undiagnosed multi who wasfully, raced to theatre in order to 'save'mum and babe!! Arhh!! It is certainly a dying art. Kiwi Kim ---Original Message--- x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerDate:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger 04/24/05 11:42:34/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [ozmidwifery] ENDING GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MIDWIVES/x-tad-bigger yepo mine is sent off too Jan. BTW, this morning at 5am i was at a lovely vaginal breech birth and a new little black haired girl came in to the world on the night of the full moon. this was the first breech baby i had seen born - except for videos! - and i was amazed how quick it all was. about 3 hrs 1st stage and 18 mins of pushing. and an 8 pound 5 girl. perfect! Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Nicole and all I believe I wrote this letter some time ago. I am unsure where it has resurfaced from!! Tony Abbott embarrassed? Who cares. The update on the Medicare safety-net is. It was purely from Obstetricians hiking their fees (70% in 12 months!!) that blew the safety net out. So what does the responsible Howard Government do? Doe they rope in Obstetricians gross increase? No They punish the poorest Australians and increase the safety net from $300 to $500. Remember this 70% increase only represents care for 30% of Australian women (as thats how many private Obs care for). Rural women pay as taxpayers for Medicare to receive no service (within Cooee). While they subsidise Australias wealthiest speciali! sts a! nd women. So Tony Abbott has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to curb spending by Obs. I would hazard a guess that the majority of women accessing Private Ob services were not within the $300 safety net bracket anyway, they would of been in the higher $700 bracket. So this is an absolute JOKE, and Mr Abbott needs to know we are on to him. I think Fed Treasurer Costello needs a visit too!! Justine Justine Caines National President Maternity Coalition Inc PO Box 105 MERRIWA NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65482248 Fax: (02
Re: [ozmidwifery] ENDING GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MIDWIVES
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE OVERSIGHT KATE THE email letter is included for all members to personalise, then print out and sign -- then post it. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE .. ADD MP after the Hon Tony and make sure your send it to him. There is another suggestion for the PM and that will need a title alteration too. Use your heads to design the letter YOU WANT TO SEND. The ozmidwifery version is only a SUGGESTION The major aim of this excercise is to get as many letters to Parliament House by 5th May as possible and as many completed HANDS doc. back to me so I can collate them and take them with me to the meeting. Don't forget to put a date, your signature, then your name in WRITING and ADD YOUR ADDRESS AND PHONE CONTACT NUMBER before you put any letters in the envelope. Thank you one and all for your interest in this exercise Yours in midwifery Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 23 Apr, 2005, at 12:03, Mary Murphy wrote: FYI x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerKate /or Nick/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerSaturday, April 23, 2005 5:35 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerRe: [ozmidwifery] ENDING GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MIDWIVES/x-tad-bigger Jan: A couple of suggestions re letter. Firstly, and of critical importance, the addressee is incorrect. It is addressed to Abbott but dear Prime Minister. Suggest it needs to be changed to either Dear Mr Abbott or Dear Minister! It may seem inconsequential, but correct protocol is to address it to: The Hon Tony Abbott MP. May seem irrelevant, but Ministerial Office staff (generally, can't speak specifically) tend to get superior and their backs up when things like that MP are left off. Kate (who has spent far too many years working with Ministers and Ministerial Office staff!)
Re: [ozmidwifery] ENDING GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MIDWIVES
Hi Justine, Nicole and all Your letter was circulated in Homebirth Access Sydney's BIRTHINGS for all members to copy and send to Tony. There was acknowledgment that the letter came from Maternity Coalition. I sent the letter out to all the IPMs to distribute to their clients and later to ozmidwifery for a wider audience. I have had lots of replies now from clients who have told me they have already posted their letter to Tony. I hope to hear of more postings from this list. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 23 Apr, 2005, at 21:17, Justine Caines wrote: Hi Nicole and all I believe I wrote this letter some time ago. I am unsure where it has resurfaced from!! Tony Abbott embarrassed? Who cares. The update on the Medicare safety-net is. It was purely from Obstetricians hiking their fees (70% in 12 months!!) that blew the safety net out. So what does the responsible Howard Government do? Doe they rope in Obstetricians gross increase? No They punish the poorest Australians and increase the safety net from $300 to $500. Remember this 70% increase only represents care for 30% of Australian women (as thats how many private Obs care for). Rural women pay as taxpayers for Medicare to receive no service (within Cooee). While they subsidise Australias wealthiest specialists and women. So Tony Abbott has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to curb spending by Obs. I would hazard a guess that the majority of women accessing Private Ob services were not within the $300 safety net bracket anyway, they would of been in the higher $700 bracket. So this is an absolute JOKE, and Mr Abbott needs to know we are on to him. I think Fed Treasurer Costello needs a visit too!! Justine Justine Caines National President Maternity Coalition Inc PO Box 105 MERRIWA NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65482248 Fax: (02)65482902 Mob: 0408 210273 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.maternitycoalition.org.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Independent midwife numbers
I'm down to fifty on the ASIM mailing list for our Communique, Sue I'm sure there are more IPMs around who don't belong though. As a rough estimate I'd say there are at least 70 practising full time and part time around the country. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 21 Apr, 2005, at 16:34, Andrea Quanchi wrote: not enough but it would be hard to tell because some are not admitting it and some not wanting to practice without insurance Count me as 1 but the MIPP list is useful for Victoria Andrea Quanchi On 21/04/2005, at 1:28 PM, Sue Cookson wrote: Hi all, Just completeing my assignment - anyone know approximately how many independently practising midwives there are across Australia? Thanks, Sue -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Advice Please
Hi Justine With monochorionc twins the risk of prolapsed cord is increased when the membranes rupture if the second twin is lying transversely above it's sibling in the same sac. Once the sac ruptures there is the possibility that the cord could get dragged down with the escape of fluid, especially if the head of the first twin is not engaged, i.e. the head of the first baby is not filling the pelvic cavity. Prolapsed cord is more likely to occur if the waters break before term and before the head of the first twin has engaged. Therefore preventing premature labour is the key to preventing cord prolapse. The mother should get as much rest as she can (try to take a nap each afternoon) and keep up her level of fitness by eating healthily (to avoid pre-eclampsia, more common with monozygotic twins) and taking a walk or swim every day. The exercise could be modified if there are other children to chase - getting enough REST then becomes the critical element. It is a good idea to have an ultrasound around 38 week to make sure there is no entanglement of the cord at that point and to confirm that both babies have a longitudinal lie. Once it is know that the presenting part of the first baby is engaged the risks of cord prolapse are reduced. Of course if the first baby is a breach near term there will be more pressure put on this woman to have an elective c/s as there is a more risk of cord prolapse if she goes into premature labour. This usually leads to the recommendation of an elective c/s BEFORE TERM... not in the best interests of a good start to mothering of twins. I'd advise this woman to inform herself as much as she can, I'd also advise her to have a second opinion from an obstetrician at the second hospital as to the zygosity of her twins. Then make her birth plans with her partner. Providing there are no health problems with the mother or the babies she and her partner should make an appointment with the midwives at both hospitals and see if there are any who will support her during her labour and birth if she elects to go this way if babies are both in a good position. She'll need to talk to those who work in the delivery area. It's important that this woman knows she has the right to refuse any medical treatments that are offered to her if she is of the opinion that they are not in the best interests of herself or her babies. It's best if she takes along a copy of her written birth plans and make sure there is a copy in the hand of everyone at the meeting. If the staff will not offer any support then, providing all is well with her antenatal checks, wait until she is in labour and don't go to the hospital until the last possible moment. That way it will be less likely she will become a caesarean statistic. She could start her research by accessing www.unassistedchildbirth.com/twins.htm but should keep in mind that the stories on this website might not relate to monozygotic twins. She should also access the Australian Multiple Birth Association to see if they have a list of references on monozygotic twins. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 21 Apr, 2005, at 21:34, Justine Caines wrote: Dear All In my non-midwife capacity, I need help on this one please!!! This came to be via homebirth Australias website Many Thanks Justine I've just been told that the hospital does not ever attempt vaginal birth of monochorionic twins, and have rung another hospital and been told the same thing. We've been told that 'research shows' that it is too risky because of the risk of cord prolapse. I would imagine they would also be concerned about the placenta separating before the 2nd twin is born. I have not yet been able to find out what research they are referring to, and am in the process of looking for more info before giving up on the idea of trying for a vaginal birth. It came as quite a shock to me that it was seen as a foregone conclusion regardless of our health or the position of the babies. Obviously I wouldn't consider a home birth in this situation, but I thought your organization might be able to point me in the right direction re finding info/research/stats on this type of birth. If I'm going to go along with their recommendations I want to understand why and feel confident that it's the best thing to do.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife Practitioners are midwives with theirown practice
Thanks heaps Jo We hope to have those hands from all over Australia. Hope the Tony and the PM are impressed. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 20 Apr, 2005, at 10:37, Dean Jo wrote: x-tad-biggerI understand fully Jan and have already filled in my hand (and one for each of my family) and have had others sign the sheets I will send them off at the end of this week.It was just an opportunity to get a room full of signatures and when one person the second one to see the petition- saw the word Practioner the room then entered into the debate and people were not comfortable with the term and thus the petition. I was a bit dismayed as the overall issue in my mind was far toimportant to worry about wording that someone like Abbott would simply not get anyway!/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI understand you Jan, thank you for not taking offense to my original posting, and assure you I am still handing out the hands!/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCheers/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJo/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger-Original Message-/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJan Robinson/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerWednesday, April 20, 2005 9:02 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJo Bainbridge/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCc:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[ozmidwifery] Midwife Practitioners are midwives with theirown practice/x-tad-bigger Hi Jo No offense meant with the midwife practitioner title - we are going to Canberra to get a senate inquiry going specifically into the insurance crisis that exists for independent midwife practitioners. Almost all of the IPMs would have the words MIDWIFE PRACTITIONER on their business cards. The word PRACTITIONER tells the world that this particular midwife conducts their own private practice and distinguishes them from a midwife who is in employment. IPMs also use their business cards to tell the world that they are specialists in NATURAL BIRTHS (we don't want to be confused with the Nurse Practitoners who can prescribe drugs) We believe that if a woman is sick enough to have to take prescribed drugs then she needs to consult with a medical practitioner. We IPMs are specifically going to Canberra to right some wrongs, including the inequality that exists in Government support for maternity health professionals so while we are there we are also going to petition Tony Abbot to re-look at Medicare provider numbers for midwives who provide primary care to pregnant women. Obstetricians, GPs, physios, chiros all have medicare provider numbers. Obstetricians also get some support for their insurance premiums. Midwife practitioners are primary carers and perform exactly the same service that an obstetrician does for a healthy woman and yet they have to do it without the benefit of Government Medicare support and without any indemnity insurance. We want to right this wrong. If we get Medicare provider numbers then the flow-on will occur for our colleagues who work in primary care case load situations. IPMs are not covered vicariously by any employer - therefore we need to look at ways of obtaining indemnity insurance for oursleves. Seeking Federal Government support is just ONE of the avenues we are exploring - We need to do SOMETHING about insurance before we become extinct! Once the private arm of midwifery disappears women wanting personalised care from a midwife will have to go hopping - already there are more unattended home births than those having a registered midwife in attendance. it will take years for the hospitals to have every midwife taking on her own case load. forming true partnerships with women and begin to offer women a choice of birth venue. Until that happens I hope our colleagues will continue to support us in attempting to provide a safe, satisfying and COST FREE service to women who want to give birth at home. Hope this helps you understand our cause and I hope lots of SA supporters of primary midwifery care will fill out those hands and write lots of letters to Tony Abbott and send them to him for International Midwives Day. Remind Tony to join in the celebrations on 5th May when you sign your letter. Yours in women's choice Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au x-tad-bigger--
[ozmidwifery] Midwife Practitioners are midwives with their own practice
Hi Jo No offense meant with the midwife practitioner title - we are going to Canberra to get a senate inquiry going specifically into the insurance crisis that exists for independent midwife practitioners. Almost all of the IPMs would have the words MIDWIFE PRACTITIONER on their business cards. The word PRACTITIONER tells the world that this particular midwife conducts their own private practice and distinguishes them from a midwife who is in employment. IPMs also use their business cards to tell the world that they are specialists in NATURAL BIRTHS (we don't want to be confused with the Nurse Practitoners who can prescribe drugs) We believe that if a woman is sick enough to have to take prescribed drugs then she needs to consult with a medical practitioner. We IPMs are specifically going to Canberra to right some wrongs, including the inequality that exists in Government support for maternity health professionals so while we are there we are also going to petition Tony Abbot to re-look at Medicare provider numbers for midwives who provide primary care to pregnant women. Obstetricians, GPs, physios, chiros all have medicare provider numbers. Obstetricians also get some support for their insurance premiums. Midwife practitioners are primary carers and perform exactly the same service that an obstetrician does for a healthy woman and yet they have to do it without the benefit of Government Medicare support and without any indemnity insurance. We want to right this wrong. If we get Medicare provider numbers then the flow-on will occur for our colleagues who work in primary care case load situations. IPMs are not covered vicariously by any employer - therefore we need to look at ways of obtaining indemnity insurance for oursleves. Seeking Federal Government support is just ONE of the avenues we are exploring - We need to do SOMETHING about insurance before we become extinct! Once the private arm of midwifery disappears women wanting personalised care from a midwife will have to go hopping - already there are more unattended home births than those having a registered midwife in attendance. it will take years for the hospitals to have every midwife taking on her own case load. forming true partnerships with women and begin to offer women a choice of birth venue. Until that happens I hope our colleagues will continue to support us in attempting to provide a safe, satisfying and COST FREE service to women who want to give birth at home. Hope this helps you understand our cause and I hope lots of SA supporters of primary midwifery care will fill out those hands and write lots of letters to Tony Abbott and send them to him for International Midwives Day.Remind Tony to join in the celebrations on 5th May when you sign your letter. Yours in women's choice Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] midwife costings
Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 14 Apr, 2005, at 10:46, Barry Sonja wrote: Dear all, Wondering if anyone would know the current AN-DRG costs for a spontaneous vaginal birth in NSW or where I would be able to obtain it. (not sure if they are different in each state). Thanks Sonja
Re: [ozmidwifery] need article help please
Dear Sharon If you are a member of the Australian College of Midwives then you should be able to access it through them. Pat Brodie is the president of it's state Branch (The NSW Midwives Association). Call the NSW Midwives Association on 02 9281 9522 and ask the office staff if they have copy of Pat's article there. If you belong to the College you will probably get it for free - otherwise there will be a small charge. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 10 Apr, 2005, at 11:42, sharon wrote: recommended to read as part of our Graduate Midwifery program. It is entitled midwifery and primary health care P. Brodie wrote the article and it appeared in Volume
Re: [ozmidwifery] Expo this weekend
Hi Abby Do you still have me down for Friday afternoon? I have it in my diary Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 11 Apr, 2005, at 08:09, Abby and Toby wrote: Hi, Homebirth Access Sydney is in need of your support. We need some more people to help out at the stand this weekend. I am sure we are all aware that in Australia less than 1% of births occur at home, it is a tragedy. Women do not seem to be aware of their options and choices for prenatal and birth support. Nor do women and their partners seem to be aware of the safety of homebirth and the amazing support that an independent midwife can offer. Pregnancy and parenting expos are a great way to bring awareness to womens birthing choices and to the services that independent midwives provide. It would be really wonderful if a few more Sydney midwives could join HAS in promoting homebirth at this expo. So far, only one midwife has put her hand up to volunteer and we need more. If you have just a couple of hours spare, please join us in giving women options and information. You can promote your services while you are there and help women and their partners become aware. It is a small step, but it is a small step in the right direction. More awareness on a grassroots level means more acceptance of midwives and homebirthing. Please email me if you want to help out. We still have spaces on Saturday 12pm-2pm and every afternoon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Love Abby HAS Events Co-ordinator -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Indigenous birthing
Hi Emily What part of the country will you be wanting to do your 8 weeks full time elective? I may be able to put you onto someone. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 30 Mar, 2005, at 19:51, Emily wrote: Hi everyone Im a student trying to organise an elective for later this year and was hoping some of you might have some ideas. It is an 8 week full time elective starting in late july. I have to do an assignment on health inequality issues faced by Indigenous women, so im looking for anyone who sees indigenous women, it doesnt have to specifically be an Indigenous health service. I have already been out to Alukura women's clinic in Alice Springs but this time want to focus on birthing issues more than antenatal care, which i did a lot of at Alukura. Ideally I'd love to find a home birth MW that sees alot of Indigenous women but a hospital birthing centre/maternity ward would be great too. Thanks so much :) emily Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports -Sign up for Fantasy Baseball.
Re: [ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning
Hi Lindsay If you are a home birth fan and would like to meet with home birth midwives please let me know off line. I can give you the meting venues of a few different home birth groups around Sydney - also some interstate. Please contact me as below. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 30 Mar, 2005, at 16:56, Mike Lindsay Kennedy wrote: x-tad-biggerHi./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI have just come home from an exciting day as a Student Midwife. My first Two births Okay I was only a witness, but it was still pretty exciting stuff. The first lady was a VBAC. Supposed to be a Cesar on Friday, came in this morning in labour and I think the Obstetrician was so busy with his theatre list that he just let her labour. I think he planned to do a Cesar (in his mind anyway) after lunch. He kept saying that she was progressing BUT she probably wouldnt deliver. And she did!! Not only that but the Dr didnt get there! It was beautiful! Within half an hour the lady who I had been with all morning (IOL for postdates) also delivered. The Dr made it for that one. Shame really, it just wasnt as nice. So.. not my perfect scenarios, I am a Home Birth fan myself, but in a hospital where two weeks ago everyone had a LSCS, I was pretty thrilled to have two normal deliveries. I have to admit caring for the women post section I was beginning to doubt my desire to be a Midwife. It just isnt my thing, all those post op obs and PCAs and drains etc. But todays experience reminded me why I want to do this! /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTotally enthused!/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerLindsay/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOn Behalf Of/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJulie Clarke/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerWednesday, March 30, 2005 6:21 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHi/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI have just come in the door from supporting at another wonderful birth, which was a successful vbac./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe woman had made a well informed choice to aim for a vbac and not a repeat cesar, however she experienced the usual normal anxiety of anyone having a vaginal birth compounded with lack of confidence because she didnt get there last time./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerWell we worked through those issues slowly and gently, over an hour and a half she pushed her baby into the world a gorgeous baby girl with a lovely head of dark curly hair./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe midwife was lovely, gentle, positive, calm, quiet and unobtrusive./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe dad was great and got into trouble a couple of times I felt sorry for him he was crestfallen because he was trying to do his best./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe woman was so pleased with herself at having achieved what she wanted to achieve a natural active birth with no drugs, no intervention and a fine healthy baby./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerShe didnt have any colostrum after the cesar and was worried but after this normal birth we got the baby on and the baby looked very contented and relaxed as I left./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerAnd I have come home with another big smile on my face satisfied in the knowledge that when a woman puts her mind to it and no one stands in her way she can do anything cant she?/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerA great experience to start the day./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerWarm hug to all/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJulie/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger Julie Clarke CBE x-tad-biggerIndependent Childbirth and Parenting Educator/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerACE Grad Dip Supervisor/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerNACE Advanced Educator and Trainer/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerNACE National Journal Editor/x-tad-bigger Transition into Parenthood Sessions x-tad-bigger9 Withybrook Place/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSylvaniaNSW 2224/x-tad-bigger Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-tad-biggervisit Julie's website:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerwww.transitionintoparenthood.com.au/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning
Good on you Julie Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 30 Mar, 2005, at 06:21, Julie Clarke wrote: x-tad-biggerHi/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI have just come in the door from supporting at another wonderful birth, which was a successful vbac./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe woman had made a well informed choice to aim for a vbac and not a repeat cesar, however she experienced the usual normal anxiety of anyone having a vaginal birth compounded with lack of confidence because she didnt get there last time./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerWell we worked through those issues slowly and gently, over an hour and a half she pushed her baby into the world a gorgeous baby girl with a lovely head of dark curly hair./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe midwife was lovely, gentle, positive, calm, quiet and unobtrusive./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe dad was great and got into trouble a couple of times I felt sorry for him he was crestfallen because he was trying to do his best./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe woman was so pleased with herself at having achieved what she wanted to achieve a natural active birth with no drugs, no intervention and a fine healthy baby./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerShe didnt have any colostrum after the cesar and was worried but after this normal birth we got the baby on and the baby looked very contented and relaxed as I left./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerAnd I have come home with another big smile on my face satisfied in the knowledge that when a woman puts her mind to it and no one stands in her way she can do anything cant she?/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerA great experience to start the day./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerWarm hug to all/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJulie/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger Julie Clarke CBE x-tad-biggerIndependent Childbirth and Parenting Educator/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerACE Grad Dip Supervisor/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerNACE Advanced Educator and Trainer/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerNACE National Journal Editor/x-tad-bigger Transition into Parenthood Sessions x-tad-bigger9 Withybrook Place/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSylvaniaNSW 2224/x-tad-bigger Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-tad-biggervisit Julie's website:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerwww.transitionintoparenthood.com.au/x-tad-bigger
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug
No clues as to what you need to do Helen I'm pretty slow on the uptake when it comes to computers. Do you actually need ozmidwifery in your address book? That is the one address that I tend to remember. Just a thought Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Mar, 2005, at 18:29, Helen and Graham wrote: Thanks Jan Yes I also received it. I had to retype the ozmidwifery details into my address book. ? why x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJan Robinson/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerSunday, March 27, 2005 6:01 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerRe: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug/x-tad-bigger This reached the list Helen Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website:www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Mar, 2005, at 17:13, Helen and Graham wrote: I seem to be able to receive from but not send to the list. I have contacted the list administrator but haven't heard anything back yet
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Hi Isis Why would anyone want to subject the poor little fetus to such torture just to prove a point? There are plenty of fetal epidermal cells and lanugo present in amniotic fluid if proof is needed. As for the head-down thingo, can't they palpate? What a bunch of sadists! Perhaps one day a woman will sue the practitioners for assault or fetal abuse? Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 29 Mar, 2005, at 10:10, JoFromOz wrote: Isis Caple wrote: Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being pulled at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her sons birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her sons hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I cant find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis I remember this... the large teaching hospital I did my training in in Melbourne used to use allegator forceps to do ARMs. When new doctors were learning the ARM technique, the plucking of a foetal hair was 'proof' that the infact, had ruptured the membranes. I can still hear them now...I got a foetal hair... Horrid. Jo (RM) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Question about engagement
Hi Jo It's really important that the fetal head does not enter the cavity of the pelvis too early, otherwise the bladder would be unable to fill and the rectum unable to hold onto the required amount of faecies. The connective tissues around the pelvic floor muscles do not soften until the last few weeks of pregnancy to allow the head to engage. It is important that this happens at the same time that the symphysial and sacro- iliac joints of the pelvis soften to allow the pelvic girdle to expand. If all this softening occurred earlier in the pregnancy the growing uterus would be bulging downwards into the pelvis with great discomfort to the mother, and probably a cervical prolapse to boot. Not what a woman wants during what should be the happiest time of her life. The kicks in the diaphragm alerts the mother to the necessity of sitting upright with a good posture so that the lungs can expand for maximal oxygenation all these physiological events are planned to occur at just the right time to meet the mother's and baby's changing needs. Just short of miraculous isn't it ? and we take it all for granted. Good luck with your studies Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 24 Mar, 2005, at 22:05, Julie Clarke wrote: Hi Jo I always have a little hopeful thought when I hear of a midwife who is pregnant that she will give herself a wholesome opportunity to intuitively experience her pregnancy - her growing belly, changing body and boobs, enjoy the swirls and kicks of her growing baby and cherish the secrets of pregnancy like the feeling of communicating with her baby and knowing things that you can't put into words or explain to someone else. It is such a beautiful opportunity to gain insights and understanding that no Maggie Myles textbook can convey. I hope you get the chance to read some of the wonderful classics Sheila Kitzinger's books, Janet Balaskas Active Birth, Claudia Panuthos Transformation through Birth, Ina May Gaskin Spiritual Midwifery, None of them are nurses or midwives all of them are women who are mothers. There is something unique about each of their books detailing their work and understanding. I think there can be lots of reasons why babies engage or don't engage. On one level we can discuss the mechanics of it all can't we? Such as the baby's head being the heaviest part and so gravity will encourage it downwards, or when the baby starts to be a bigger size it will naturally try to fit more comfortably between mum's ribs and pelvis. Or it could be that the baby begins to come to some realization that it will have to commence working on it's exit and begins to strategise on the most suitable way out. Perhaps it's the increasing Braxton hicks (practicing) contractions of the uterus that are letting the baby know that soon it will be born and with that gentle warning the baby begins to prepare more seriously for it's role in the birth and recognizes that becoming engaged into the pelvis is a clever little thing to do. I think there is quite a bit of quiet unrecognized communication between the woman and the baby. Childbirth Without Fear by Read and Ideal Birth by Sondra Ray and Birth Without Violence by Frederick Leboyer are more fascinating books to seek out too. Jo, I wish for you a wonderful journey through your pregnancy, labour, birth and loving your little one. Embrace the experience. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoFromOz Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 8:09 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Question about engagement ... no, not the romantic kind... We were discussing pregnancy on night duty last night (as you do when you are a Midwife, and pregnant!), and I was wondering if anyone knew why babies don't 'engage' earlier than they do? I mean, at 32 weeks, my baby's head is pretty small, so why wouldn't gravity allow the head to go deep into my pelvis, instead of having a butt and legs right up under my rib cage already? One suggestion was that it is because the foetus floats, but I don't see why... None of us really had any ideas - do any of you? Ta :) Jo (RM) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visi
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery program attracts Fed Government support and funding
Well done Tracy - the world needs more people like you Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Mar, 2005, at 10:56, Tracy Smith wrote: Hello fellow midwives, My name is Tracy Smith. A colleague Deb Pattrick and I, developed and manage a life education program called Core of Life. Some subscribers may have heard of it before. This program educates adolescents about the reality of being pregnant, giving birth and parenting a newborn. It isalwaysco-presented with one of the presenters having a background in midwifery and is an incredible opportunity to share midwifery knowledge and normal childbirth with our parents of the future. This week it was announced that Core of Life has been endorsed by the Australian government and funded through Family and Community Services to expand Nationally over a three year period. We are very excited and would like to thank all those midwives who have encourage and supported us along this 5 year journey. It is our endeavour to enlighten all teenagers about the challenge and incredible journey they face with becoming a parent and how midwives and midwifery care can assist and empower them along the way. Cheers and Happy Easter (I know mine is now!) Tracy Smith
Re: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)
Hi Holly There are two books, probably in UTS library, where you may get some references. Mothering the Mother - how a Doula can help you have a shorter, easier and healthier birth Klause, Kennell and KlausAddison Wesley Pain, Distress and the Newborn BabyMargaret Sparshott,Blackwell Science If you can get hold of the old Grantly Dick Reed books on Fear and Pain in Childbirth - Knowledge is power type of approach - they are great resources. There was a short article by Denis Walsh - Psychological barriers to labour on page 430 of the British Journal of Midwifery July 2004 Vol 12, no 7 with a related birth incident that sounded similar to that which you observed. Good luck with your searching and have a happy Easter Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Mar, 2005, at 14:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, I've been reading everyones posts with great interest over the last few weeks and I have to say that everyone has such a great amount of knowledge combined it's fantastic and inspirational! I'll take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Holly I'm a first year bmid student at uts in nsw. This is the first year nsw has run the course and I am one of only 29! We all feel very honoured to have been chosen to do this course but overwhelmed and a bit scared!! I have four children who keep me very busy, but a fantastic husband and a very flexible nanny who have been my lifeline in the first four weeks (only 3 years to go! yipee!!) So my question is : I'm doing a critical reflection on an incident i observed in delivery 2 wks ago. I'm after articles etc that are about fear of pain in labour which can lead to ineffective pushing. Also relevant would be articles on how the pain of labour/childbirth can lead to delayed bonding between mother and baby. Pardon me if I use incorrect language in my descriptions (i'm struggling with the politically correct stuff). I'm also interested in knowing if Royal Hospital in Brisbane will look at employing bmids in 3 yrs time? I think someone on here is from that hospital? Thanks for you time and help in advance. ps - I have searched [EMAIL PROTECTED] with limited success -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug
This reached the list Helen Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Mar, 2005, at 17:13, Helen and Graham wrote: I seem to be able to receive from but not send to the list. I have contacted the list administrator but haven't heard anything back yet
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Hi Andrea and listers During the ICM held in Norway some years ago the Minister for Health ( a tall, beautiful blond woman) came to the Congress and told us thatwhen those men (the doctors) came along and said all baths had to be removed from our local maternity unit - THAT IS WHEN I WENT INTO POLITICS! I remember the Prime Minister (also female) was equally impressive when she delivered her speech. They both came across as powerful women who would not waiver in their views on women's birth choices. It concerns me that Australian midwives are so slow to see the advantages in forming partnerships with women, listen to them and work with them to provide the types of birth services women want. It is difficult in many areas to convince midwives to even contemplate taking on their own caseload. Perhaps time will alleviate my concerns. I hope I see all Australian midwives working 'with women' before I die. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 13 Mar, 2005, at 18:17, Andrea Robertson wrote: Hi Belinda, I am sitting here with Susanna Houd (from Denmark) and she says that Swedish women would never allow waterbirths to be banned it has been a part of the birth scene for years. South Australia has recently adopted Statewide policy (in consultation with consumers, midwives, doctors, paediatricians) on waterbirths that means that women anywhere in the State can have a water births. Regards, Andrea At 01:48 AM 12/03/2006, you wrote: I had an antenatal class yesterday and when they asked about waterbirth I discussed it along with hospital policy basically letting them know the benefits of it but that there are many practitioners who don't support it etc. One woman in the class said she was from Sweden and that they have recently banned waterbirth? Does anyone know anything about this?? Belinda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Hi Tina I'm so upset to hear that this is how most of you wonderful B Mid women have ended up. It seems like the Bachelor of Midwifery courses are turning out similar end-products to the old post-grad Diploma courses - i.e., swelling the numbers for the existing hospital work force. The maternity administrators who are forward-thinking enough to bring in case load practice are not acting quickly enough to enroll potential midwifery graduates . Administrators should already be in contact with those students planning to graduate this year, offering them the opportunity experience in a midwifery case load program before their B Mid studies are completed and they have to start to hunt around for 'shifts' in fragmented care programs. I don't see many hospitals advertising that they are going to set up Community Midwifery Programs this year either. Where is the leadership and vision amongst the rank and file? Perhaps some one can email ozmidwifery and tell me that I am dead wrong? I hope so. ASIM will be offering a scholarship to final year UTS students when the current course gets towards it's end stage. That way the independent midwives and the home birth community will ensure that the most motivated midwifery students obtain valuable home birth experience during the last year of their course and will be able to work with independent practitioners when they graduate. Jan PS Please let the Society know if you ever intend to re-locate up into NSW Tina. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 14 Mar, 2005, at 14:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/14/2005 1:52:01 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It concerns me that Australian midwives are so slow to see the advantages in forming partnerships with women, listen to them and work with them to provide the types of birth services women want. It is difficult in many areas to convince midwives to even contemplate taking on their own caseload. Perhaps time will alleviate my concerns. I hope I see all Australian midwives working 'with women' before I die. Jan Hello Jan and everyone. Jan I couldn't agree more!! As a recently graduated midwife, educated via a Bachelor of Midwifery (predicated on continuity and woman-centred care) I am now working fulltime shift-work across my scope of practice (rotating thu pregnancy, birth and after birth care) and I can't believe that midwives feel that full-time shift work is a wonderful way work!! Having just completed my midwifery studies with full time uni and a caseload of between 10-15 women a year across the 3 years of the B Mid...I was NO WHERE nearly as tired I am now with doing the full-time shift work.it sucks big time!!! Where I work is a large regional midwifery unit in Victoria, and the move is towards implementing one-to-one midwifery care for women, with a known midwife throughout their pregnancy, birthing and early parenting journey - caseload. However, this move is being met with strenuous opposition from many of the midwives who WILL NOT even contemplate that perhaps there is another way to be 'with woman' than the current fear based, institution focused, inflexible rostered based system of maternity care. So like Jennifairy, I too am also working with a MIPP to keep my skills up of supporting women in their on own power to birth at home on a partime basis where I am sharing a small caseload of women with another midwifery colleague, while continuing to work to educate midwives on the benefits of one-one midwifery care with known womenwhilst continuing to practice the bulk of my midwifery in what now seems like on planet Mars!! Yours in reforming midwifery Tina Pettigrew.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro
Hi Jenni Welcome to the world of independent midwifery. You can usually pick up good deals on most of the items you have mentioned if you attend the Trade and Education exhibitors at the State, National and International ACMI Conferences. If you are going to Brisbane to the ICM in July you will get some great prices there, especially if you utilise the buying power of a group of like-minded individuals. Often the prices on Dopplers are reduced for Conference buyers and a further discount is provided if two or three of you buy together. Another tack is to start attending meetings of the local IPMs and ask them who they buy from - someone may even have some second-hand home birth equipment for sale. Yours in independent midwifery Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 7 Mar, 2005, at 19:44, Jennifairy wrote: Hi all, just a short (hopefully!) intro. Ive been away from the list for the last 2 or 3 years whilst doing my BMid here in SA - study tended to take over my life keeping up with the volume of mail from here was just too much! Anyways, Im finished/registered/the 'real deal' now, a RM of the first cohort of 'direct entry' midwives in Australia, now apprenticing with a MIPP on my way to fulfilling 'the dream' and *really* enjoying my life now that Im not under the study thumb! Im madly trying to get my 'kit' together, in the market for a waterproof doppler. What Im asking for from you gals ( maybe guys) is what you use/would recommend brand-wise. Ive only ever used Huntleighs in the hospitals Ive done placements at, but there are some others out there wondering if anybody can 'give me the goss' - the Huntleighs are currently around $900+ so I need to know Im making the right decision! I havent started earning 'real money' yet so this is a big buy for me. Ive managed to find forcep clamps a fabulous digital fishing scale for baby weighing on EBay (yeah, Ive become an EBay groupie now that I have the time), but if anyone has ideas/contacts etc for other stuff Id be really happy to hear from you (for eg, where do I get wooden pinards?). I need everything! cheers thanx in advance Jennifairy RM!! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Home birth with a midwife on a Current Affair
No idea except 'soon' , Joanne Myra Parsons, the midwife concerned will let us all know as soon as the producer tells her Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 23 Feb, 2005, at 14:05, Mrs Joanne M Fisher wrote: Any idea when it will be aired Jan? x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJan Robinson/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerWednesday, February 23, 2005 7:52 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerRe: [ozmidwifery] letter to the ed in Adelaide.../x-tad-bigger Great effort Jo. Keep up the pressure everybody - we want the public to become aware of how important it is to have a known midwife with you at birth. We should be seeing a nice home birth with a midwife soon on a Current Affair - keep watching the program. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 22 Feb, 2005, at 17:24, Tania Smallwood wrote: Hi Just a quick mail to say congratulations to Jo Bainbridge for her excellent letter to the editor in todays Advertiser, outlining the importance of the first group of DE midwives and the vision we all have for every woman to have her own known midwife. Well done Jo! Tania
Re: [ozmidwifery] letter to the ed in Adelaide...
Great effort Jo. Keep up the pressure everybody - we want the public to become aware of how important it is to have a known midwife with you at birth. We should be seeing a nice home birth with a midwife soon on a Current Affair - keep watching the program. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 22 Feb, 2005, at 17:24, Tania Smallwood wrote: Hi Just a quick mail to say congratulations to Jo Bainbridge for her excellent letter to the editor in todays Advertiser, outlining the importance of the first group of DE midwives and the vision we all have for every woman to have her own known midwife. Well done Jo! Tania
Re: [ozmidwifery] Camden Rally
Hi Sonja I'm unable to get there tomorrow but one of my clients (very pregnant) is going .. Jodie Dearsly plus 2 girls + bump Lynne Gross may also go, but I haven't heard back from her. I hope the rally is a rip,roaring success ... I 've been listening to this evening's news while doing my email and they are making it sound that it is very poor management to have births spread over two campuses -- bad management for who? This is all part of the plan for 'streamlining' maternity services across the state and have ALL women birth in 'centres of excellence' and then trapus back to a postnatal unit nearer to their homes. I heard Professor Dwyer on this one at a talk he gave at Royal North Shore Hospital ... although I publicly protested about the inevitable labour complications that occur when you remove women from all their support systems (and their carer) to give birth not one midwife at the meeting (and they were there from all over the state) backed me up. I hope the message gets across loud and clear tomorrow that healthy women do not need doctors to give birth ... and women prefer continuity of care from their midwives when they are preparing for normal births without drugs etc etc. There is an adequate ambulance service to transfer any mother or baby should unexpected complications occur. It would take no longer for a woman to get from Camden to Campbelltown by ambulance than it would for her to get to Campletown from her own home. All the best Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 7 Feb, 2005, at 15:40, Barry Sonja wrote: Once again Camden Maternity and Birth Centre are holding a rally in conjunction with the community. As you would be aware Camden is under threat of closing. A review was conducted 2-3 weeks ago and we still have not heard what the recommendations are. However, on the grapevine we have heard that the recommendations were given to the Minister early last week. We would be more than happy for any of you to join us this Saturday 12th Feb 11am at the AH I Building, Argyle St Camden to demand community and consumer input into local, safe maternity care. We are sick of being dictated to by the paternalistic medical profession. Sonja
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centre
Hi Michelle Mackay Birth Centre is certainly on track ... I hear nothing but praise of your work. I'm sure having the centre situated AWAY from the main building makes a huge difference. It seems the closer the Birth Centre is to labour ward the higher the transfer rate the 'partnership' that was with the women begins to include 'other parties' and that certainly influences the woman's decision making when she's most vulnerable. You can be very proud of your efforts in Townsville ... I hope you keep publishing the results of your work. Do you have a Townsville Birth Centre website? There is bound to be a computer whizz amongst your consumer supporters who would set it up for you that way you can take Townsville Birth Centre to the world and include your consumer feedback. You will be amazed at the number of overseas midwives who will 'visit' you. I hope to meet up with some of you at the ICM in Brisbane in July. Regards Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 20 Jan, 2005, at 20:13, Michelle Windsor wrote: Hi Jan, I agree that there can be a huge difference in what is regarded as a 'birth centre'. Here in Mackay we have a birth centre which is a small house at the back of the maternity unit. There are four midwives and we care for women from early pregnancy through to the birth and beyond. The postnatal stay is a maximum of 24 hours and then we follow up with home visits for up to 10 days after the birth. We don't make decisions for the women but encourage them to be informed and take responsibility for decisions relating to the birth etc. We have a library (including videos) which the women can borrow from. There is no set time limit with appointments, and aside from antenatal classes we try to do a lot of education with each visit. There is strong consumer support and involvement with the birth centre (including a reference group which helped formulate the original policies). The whole philosophy of the birth centre and the midwives is that pregnancy and birth are a normal part of life. We have many beautiful natural births here - no routine VE's, no CTG's in labour, birth in the place and position that the woman chooses and many physiological third stages. The birth centre here has been here for over 10 years now and has had over 1000 babies born in that time. Cheers, Michelle Jan Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi Di There was a Birth Centre Network NSW wholly funded by NSW Health a few years ago, but not sure that it is still functional. I can remember a concern of the network at the time that no women from disadvantaged groups ever used the existing birth centres so a lovely little pamphlet was designed and distributed (courtesy of NSW Health) that attempted to define the birth centre concept and explain the advantages to women who used them. cover page was titled ... Birthing Place for All Women pic of baby inserted here BIRTH CENTRES inside was What is a birth centre? *A place to have your baby away from Labour Ward but still part of the hospital *In a birth centre each room has a double bed, chair, curtains and nice furnishings *The midwives of the birth centre will see you right throu! gh your nate-natal care, labour and after birth *A doctor will be called if problems arise *Medicare covers costs for birth centre care Why use a birth centre? *You have your baby your way * It's a relaxed, friendly atmosphere * You can have your own support - whoever you want * A natural birth is encouraged with hot showers, baths and hot packs, but if you want there is the gas or needle for pain (hard to believe this one!) * Cultrural practices are respected and encouraged Who can use a birth centre? Almost all women can use a birth centre, but you may need to book in early Who will I see? Usually the midwives are female You may be able to have shared care with a general pracftitioner, obstetrician or private midiwfe People to talk to there followed the local birth centres and Social work department contact detaiils as well as aboriginal medical service. Lots of work went into dev! eloping this pamphlet and as far as I can remember no feedback data was ever collected or the success of it's dissemination evaluated. Shame about that. If you really want a good definition of a Natural BIrth Centre - here is the one I like best . A Natural Birth Centre is * a safe, home-like place to have your baby. * managed by midwives who are specialists in natural birth * for women who plan to have their baby naturally. * located in (or near) a public maternity hospital that facilitates medical referral if necessary The Birth Centre midwives provide care for low-risk women throughout pregnancy, labour, birth and afte
[ozmidwifery] AMCAL - getting busier
At least Amcal responds to emails quickly It will be interesting to see how long it takes the relevant department to respond Jan Dear Jan, Thank you for your email. I have forwarded this to the relevant department and have asked them to respond to you directly. If you need to contact me in the interim I can be contacted on the numbers below or via return email. regards Kate Rose Amcal Club Manager Dir: +3 9542 9490 Mob: 0400 18 11 65 AMCAL 1408 Centre Rd CLAYTON VIC 3168 Freecall: 1800 500 760 x-tad-smallerJan Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]>/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller01/19/05 06:05 PM/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]> /x-tad-smaller Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
[ozmidwifery] AMCAL reply
Hi listers This is the response I got from Amcal Will argue the point again with Kyle when I get some time to do it. If someone else wants to take them to task in the meantime - feel free - they might re-evaluate their advertising campaign. Jan Kylie Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20th January, 2005, 10.45: 11 GMT + 11:00 Dear Jan, Thankyou for taking the time to write to us about your concerns. Amcal is not advocating that bottle feeding is superior to Breast Feeding. Nor are we suggesting that Amcal Pharmacists are the only or official expert on the matter. We believe that breast feeding should be the preferred option for all mothers. If however, for whatever medical condition or reason a mother is considering a change, the Amcal Pharmacist can provide advice on what formula is suitable. We would always advise our customers to consult their GP or child health nurse before considering such a change. Kind regards Kylie Devers x-tad-smallerTitle: /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerFirstname: Jan /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerSurname: Robinson /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerUnit Number: 8 Robin Crescent /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerStreet Number: South Hurstville /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerStreet Address: /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerState: NSW /x-tad-smaller Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Amcal
Have voiced my concern that a pharmacist could set themselves up as a lactation consultant Barb. I'll give them two days to reply to my email and then call their customer service number and complain about the offensive wording again. For those that don't want to access the website but could spare a few minutes to complain to AMCAL, call 1800 500 718 Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 18 Jan, 2005, at 23:20, Barb Glare wrote: Hi, I ruined my day today by picking up a brochure at an Amcal pharmacy. I quote Feeding Problems Whether you are breast or bottle feeding your baby, things don't always go smoothly. Some women have problems with cracked, sore nipples and infection (called mastitis) Some babies can have difficulty in attaching to the breast or with sucking. It may also take time before the production of breastmilk adjusts to your baby's needs. Your Amcal pharmacist can offer advice on many common feeding problems and, if you are bottle feeding your baby, they can help you choose the right formula from the many available. Breast milk is generally considered good for babies and you can consult your Pharmacist or GP when considering formula products. priceless, huh? Odd how they mention you may have problems whether you are breastfeeding or bottle feeding, but all the problems they mention are breastfeeding problems. Not that baby's stools will be so hard they will be agony to pass. Not the problems associated with allergies etc. And the last sentenceI'm speechless If you are offended by this as I am, I suggest that you report this to APMAIF Their guidelines are athttp://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/health-pubhlth-strateg-foodpolicy-apmaif.htm But don't take them too literally, just let them know that you are NOT HAPPY with this sort of behaviour. I have met with APMAIF, and they tell me they don't see the point in attempting to strengthen their scope of practice because they rarely ever get complaints from mothers or health professionals. If you feel the urge to complain to AMCAL their website iswww.amcal.com.au Barb
Re: [ozmidwifery] And this from the rural doctors!!!
Shame Dr Payne did not add support safe births in midwifery units in the bush. The latest published NSW Midwives Data Collection (2003) clearly shows that the highest rate of normal vaginal birth was among residents of the Greater Western Area (67.6 per cent), and the next highest was Hunter and New England (66.7 per cent) ... the real winners were in the other/not stated category (68.7 per cent normal vaginal births) which I am assuming were the small rural units previously closed to maternity patients. Women will beat a path to their door in strong labour so that they can by-pass the so-called obstetric 'centres of excellence' run by their Area Health Service. Glad there are still some women-friendly midwives at the door of these smaller units still there to greet them. NB Highest rates of instrumental delivery ere among residents of Northern Sydney and Central Coast Area (12.1 per cent) and the caesarean section rate varied from 23.9 per cent among mothers resident in the Sydney South West Area to 32.0 per cent in the Northern Sydney Central Coast Area. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 18 Jan, 2005, at 22:54, Justine Caines wrote: Well well! In politics they call them spin doctors! I think real Drs can spin anything!!! It helps us though JC Xx MEDIA RELEASE 20 December 2003 031220 SIZE DOESNT MATTER ITS WHAT YOU DO WITH IT THAT COUNTS! The reports appearing in yesterdays press that suggest the safety of women and babies is compromised at Camden Hospital due to the small number of deliveries in the last year to eighteen months, misrepresents the facts in relation to obstetric services, Dr Sue Page, National President of the Rural Doctors Association of Australia, said today. I refer specifically to claims made in yesterdays Daily Telegraph that as the Camden Maternity unit has only delivered fewer than 500 babies that its service should be closed as a matter of safety because apparently this number is well below the safe standard of 1000 to 1500 births for a unit of its size. In fact international research has shown this assertion to be dangerously wrong. Canadian research that has investigated U.S., Australian, New Zealand and its own rural services has compared the outcomes of care in different size hospitals, the smallest of which do not have cesarean section capability. The data results showed that small community hospitals with less than 100 deliveries per year had the lowest perinatal morbidity and mortality rates. (Canadian Journal of Rural Medicine 1998;3(2):75) Australia and New Zealand data clearly show that women delivering in rural hospitals attended exclusively by procedural GPs and midwives, with or without immediate cesarean section capability, have fewer premature births, and fewer hypoxic infants and lower birth-weight-specific mortality rates than the larger level II and III hospitals. In brief, a small rural hospital is the safest place to have your baby; the available evidence suggests that these hospitals with limited services and, in many cases, without local cesarean section capability, do offer acceptably safe maternity care irrespective of the total number of babies delivered in a 12 month period safer than the large maternity centres of an impersonal city hospital, Dr Sue Page said. Perhaps even more importantly, populations that do not have access to local maternity care seem to have worse perinatal outcomes. So suggestions that the Camden Maternity unit, or any other small hospitals unit, should be closed down due to safety, and services relocated to the larger city centres, must be vigorously opposed. Government policies should be about supporting the amazing results these rural facilities can achieve; health services policy needs to be more focused on the results of research, such as the study referred to above, and less about rationalizing the bottom line. All the available research clearly supports the maintenance of rural maternity care services in Australias rural communities. I call on State governments around Australia to stop political spin doctoring of maternity care and instead support the safe delivery of babies in the bush, said Dr Page. Media contacts: RDAA President, Dr Sue Page on 0414 878 385 RDAA Media Adviser, Amalia Matheson on 02-6273 9303 or 0418 265 690
Re: [ozmidwifery] Camden Rally
Well done Sonja and wonderful Camden women and midwives Unfortunately I was not in Sydney but look forward to catching up with your event when I read the Sunday papers tonight. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 15 Jan, 2005, at 16:02, Barry Sonja wrote: Dear all Just to let you know that there was an excellent rally in Camden today to save our maternity unit. Over 300 people attended with hopefully fantastic media coverage. It is amazing how many mothers and babies and pregnant women will march in over 35 degree heat. Look for us on the tele and the Sunday papers. We also hope to have a bigger and better one in a months time if our demands to keep the unit open are not met. Sonja
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centre
Hi Di There was a Birth Centre Network NSW wholly funded by NSW Health a few years ago, but not sure that it is still functional. I can remember a concern of the network at the time that no women from disadvantaged groups ever used the existing birth centres so a lovely little pamphlet was designed and distributed (courtesy of NSW Health) that attempted to define the birth centre concept and explain the advantages to women who used them. cover page was titled ... Birthing Place for All Women pic of baby inserted here BIRTH CENTRES inside was What is a birth centre? *A place to have your baby away from Labour Ward but still part of the hospital *In a birth centre each room has a double bed, chair, curtains and nice furnishings *The midwives of the birth centre will see you right through your nate-natal care, labour and after birth *A doctor will be called if problems arise *Medicare covers costs for birth centre care Why use a birth centre? *You have your baby your way * It's a relaxed, friendly atmosphere * You can have your own support - whoever you want * A natural birth is encouraged with hot showers, baths and hot packs, but if you want there is the gas or needle for pain (hard to believe this one!) * Cultrural practices are respected and encouraged Who can use a birth centre? Almost all women can use a birth centre, but you may need to book in early Who will I see? Usually the midwives are female You may be able to have shared care with a general pracftitioner, obstetrician or private midiwfe People to talk to there followed the local birth centres and Social work department contact detaiils as well as aboriginal medical service. Lots of work went into developing this pamphlet and as far as I can remember no feedback data was ever collected or the success of it's dissemination evaluated. Shame about that. If you really want a good definition of a Natural BIrth Centre - here is the one I like best . x-tad-bigger A Natural Birth Centre is/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger * a safe, home-like place to have your baby. * managed by midwives who are specialists in natural birth * for women who plan to have their baby naturally. * located in (or near) a public maternity hospital that facilitates medical referral if necessary The Birth Centre midwives provide care for low-risk women throughout pregnancy, labour, birth and afterwards. The Birth Centre education program aims to empower women and their support people with a unique understanding of pregnancy and birth knowledge that facilitates participation in decision making related to the birth of their baby. /x-tad-bigger I don't think any of the so called Birth Centres can say they adhere to all the above criteria. I would like to hear from any who think they do. I would like to see the development of Natural Birth Centres attached to each and every public hospital in the country. There would need to be a transfer of staff out into Community Midwifery programs ... The Community premises would become the Natural Birth Centres of the future and the focal point for women who wish to arrange for a home birth as well. Midwives who see their career pathway as becoming specialist in natural births do not rotate through labour and delivery suites and commit themselves to community services and forming partnerships with women rather than be placed on the rotating roster within a maternity unit. This is something that needs discussion at national level - perhaps put on the ACMI executive agenda. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 16 Jan, 2005, at 10:43, Ken WArd wrote: The birth centre where I work offers midwife care throughout antenatal, intrapartum and post natal. We encourage non-drug use in labour, but do have gas and morphine. These are NEVER offered, and not given on first ask. It is between the midwife the woman and her supports when drugs are used, the vast majority do not even think about it. Nitros does not affect her choice for a water birth, but morphine does, she can labour in water. Iv therapy can be given to rehydrate if necessary, and ceased once a litre has been given. We have research based policies, and are therefore more liberal than delivery suite. eg 48 hours RM, 42 weeks before induction, trans. to DS. No CTGs. Physiological 3rd stage except for previous pph and 'at risk' such as prolonged second stage. We inundate our clients with info, pros and cons, and encourage them to do their own research. They are usually home in 24hrs. We are no longer doing VBACs, due to obest. intervention.. Maureen -Original Message- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Ofdiane Sent:Saturday, 15 January 2005 12:05 AM To:ozmidwif
Re: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline (Cas) McCullough!!
Good on YOU Cas and Wayne and midwives all. There'll be more evidence to roar about now and one more little voice to join the chorus in the fight for womens' choice. See you at some rally somewhere Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 14 Jan, 2005, at 09:21, Jodie Miller wrote: This is a quick note to all Cas's friends in birth reform. At 5.45 this am, Adam Samuel McCullough was roared into this world with the love and perseverence of mum Caroline and dad Wayne at Selangor Private Hospital near Maleny (Qld) with midwives Lynne and Vicki. After a lng pregnancy and a lng pre-labour he only took a rapid 5 hours (or so) to greet his parents. Naturally Cas and Wayne are ecstatic to have achieved a totally natural vaginal birth after two prior caesareans!! Please send your congratulations and support to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please feel free to pass on the news! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] interesting
Thanks for this Mary Have just sent a copy to all the women I know who have had vaginal breech births. They will be overjoyed to see this. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 10 Jan, 2005, at 23:18, Mary Murphy wrote: From the birthnews list: 22. EIDE MG, Oyen N, Skjaerven R, Irgens LM, et al. Breech Delivery and Intelligence: A Population-Based Study of 8,738 Breech Infants. Obstet Gynecol 2005;105:4-11. http://amedeo.com/p2.php?id=15625134s=neo ABSTRACT available
Re: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support
Hi Kate If your friend contacts me I can connect her with some of the independent midwives in western Sydney. She is most welcome to come along to our ASIM meetings that the Sydney IPMs hold third Wednesday of each month ... usually in one of our homes, sometimes in a cafe or hospital venue. Some of us also attend the HAS meetings (Homebirth Access Sydney) and by attending those as well your friend could begin to develop a supportive network of women and midwives who are specialists in natural birth. Happy New Year Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 10 Jan, 2005, at 22:14, Kate /or Nick wrote: Hi I'm a mature aged second year BMid student at UniSA. One of our younger students moved to Adelaide from Tasmania last year to do the course. She is a really lovely, mature, perceptive girl and has been very supportive of fellow students (including me) through various traumas. Given all the changes she had to manage last year, I think she did really well, but recruiting follow throughs was a problem for her. Part of the problem was lack of networks, and part her youth - and that she looks quite young. This year she will probably be living around Parramatta NSW. So yet again, she is in a new state, with no networks, and limited access to the pregnant women she desperately needs. Sophie I discussed emailing this group. I am sending the email because she felt a little self conscious doing self-promotion and I can probably say nice things about her that she would hesitate to say about herself! She is keen, open to learning, really sweet (making that comment makes me feel old!). She is aware of her limitations. And because of her lack of networks, she really needs help to get those follow through women to meet course requirements. I believe she has joined the homebirth group in an attempt to meet some pregnant women. I have spoken to my family in Sydney, but was hoping that some of you in Sydney (esp western and nth-western!) might be able to help her. Advice, ideas, or pregnant women would be wonderful. Is anyone able to take her under their wing? What are good/bad hospitals to approach. Are there any people she should contact? Many thanks Kate
Re: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support
Hi Jane Sorry I didn't see your response before I replied. Perhaps catch up with you at the next ASIM meeting? Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 10 Jan, 2005, at 22:45, Jane Palmer wrote: Dear Kate I am happy to provide some support. I live in Dundas 5-10 from Parramatta. My phone number is 9873 1750 Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf OfKate /or Nick Sent:Monday, 10 January 2005 10:15 PM To:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject:[ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support Hi I'm a mature aged second year BMid student at UniSA. One of our younger students moved to Adelaide from Tasmania last year to do the course. She is a really lovely, mature, perceptive girl and has been very supportive of fellow students (including me) through various traumas. Given all the changes she had to manage last year,I think she did really well, but recruiting follow throughs was a problem for her. Part of the problem was lack of networks, and part her youth - and that she looks quite young. This year she will probably be living around Parramatta NSW. So yet again, she is in a new state, with no networks, and limited access to the pregnant women she desperately needs. Sophie I discussed emailing this group. I am sending the email because she felt a little self conscious doing self-promotion and I can probably say nice things about her that she would hesitate to say about herself! She is keen, open to learning, really sweet (making that comment makes me feel old!). She is aware of her limitations. And because of her lack of networks, she really needs help to get those follow through women to meet course requirements. I believe she has joined the homebirth group in an attempt to meet some pregnant women. I have spoken to my family in Sydney, but was hoping that some of you in Sydney (esp western and nth-western!) might be able to help her. Advice, ideas, or pregnant women would be wonderful. Is anyone able to take her under their wing? What are good/bad hospitals to approach. Are there any people she should contact? Many thanks Kate
Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth slogans
HOMEBIRTH - naturally Baby Jesus - born naturally Have a great pageant. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 18 Nov, 2004, at 17:00, Tania Smallwood wrote: Wondering if you wonderful women can bombard me please with some homebirth slogans, looking for something direct and eye catching to go on a t-shirt, our local Homebirth Network in Adelaide is in a small Hills christmas pageant next week, so as usual, everything at the last minute, but there are some wanting to get t-shirts made up, and I'm at a bit of a loss... Thanks!\ Tania
[ozmidwifery] Re: [MCNSW] Great News for NT Women
Well done to all the wonderful women (and their mates) who worked so tirelessly to right the wrong. At least the pathway has been cleared to commence the journey towards eventually getting one-to-one midwifery care through community health programs. I hope yesterday's success brings renewed efforts from all the other states to achieve Community Midwifery programs with home birth as a viable option right across Australia. Now is the time to send the Hon Peter a Christmas card (hopefully with a natural birth theme) and thank him for all his support. Then it will be time to extend your goals to have Maternity Coalition members (men and women) on each and every Health Area Board (or advisory council) ... to ensure internal pressure continues . until Community Midwifery is the accepted norm in this country and every woman visits her community midwife when she first becomes pregnant (instead of booking with her GP). I'll be having a glass of champaign tonight to toast your success NT women and midwives, but I'll keep in the back of my mind It will be far too easy for any new Governments or new public servants to say this project is too expensive or this project is not working in 2005. The first battle has been won, but we must not become complacent. Happy Christmas and a Happier New Year Jan PS I've just found a great card for the Hon Peter! A Santa in his red swimmers, leading a line a cuddly koalas across the sand hills and down to the sea. I think it depicts the NT scene at this moment. POST YOURS OFF THIS WEEK Dr Peter Toyne MLA Minister for Health GPO Box 3146 Darwin NT 0801 Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 18 Nov, 2004, at 03:33, Justine Caines wrote: Dear All It seems that Maternity Coalition women and midwives have done it! Today the NT Health Minister, Toyne launched a comprehensive package of reform for NT maternity services and indemnity for Independent midwives (of which the NT Gov will cover). I cant attach the release and it is not yet on the website, but for those interested in looking later here is the link http://www.nt.gov.au/ocm/media_releases/ A good day for MC, A great day for NT women and midwives!! Thanks so much to Virginia Nock for a sterling effort of the last 18 months, it was her wonderful experience of homebirth and a known midwife that fuelled the passion. This is an example of how a national organisation who has developed respect and has some clout can support a branch to make great in-roads locally. Just shows when we tap all of our talents what we can do together!! Also very positive for the rest of the country, if Australias smallest jurisdiction can self insure private midwives then why not VIC, NSW etc. Champers tonight! JC Justine Caines National President Maternity Coalition Inc PO Box 105 MERRIWA NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65482248 Fax: (02)65482902 Mob: 0408 210273 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maternity Coalition NSW www.maternitycoalition.org.au Yahoo! Groups Sponsor x-tad-smallerADVERTISEMENT/x-tad-smallerimage.tiff> image.tiff> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MCNSW/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [ozmidwifery] KYM- Caroline Flint Query.
Hi Wende Your friend needs to access Caroline Flint's books Sensitive Midwifery Heinmann Nursing 1986 Reprins in 87, 89. The ISBN is 0 433 10620 4; The other book Community Midwifery - a practical guide is co-authored with Mary Cronk - Heinemann Medical Books 1989 ISBVB 0-433-00017-1 They should be available through an inter-university library loan. I can't believe the lecturer would expect information to be collected without providing some references, however, your friend might also try for a copy of TEAM MIDWIFERY FOR EVERYONE - Building on the Know Your Midwife Scheme - an article in the March 1989 Midwives XChronicle Nursing Notes pp66 Writers were Julie Frohlich and Sally Edwards, both from St Luke's Hospital, Guildford. Another important document around the time that Caroline was writing her books was THE VISION - Proposals for the Future of the Maternity Services from the Association of Radical Midwives - Printed by Spa Printing and Copying, Droitwich. I'm sure the Association of Radical Midwives would still have copies of their Vision available if you contacted them. I've lost my emai details tol contact them now, but someone else on this list may have it. To quote from the introduction of THE VISION We have set out in A.R.M. to propose a new Vision for the maternity services in 10 years time. We recognize and applaud the strides our profession has made, particularly in the alst 10 years, but feel the crisis is far from over. Many midwives feel frustrated with the present segmented pattern of care (6,7) and find themselves feeling far from practitioners in their own right (8) Do these words sound familiar to you? I was heavily influenced by Carolyn and some members of the A.R.M. who I met while attending an ICM in the UK and realising we were even further behind the 8-ball than the UK here in Australia set out to educate myself and obtain the experience necessary to feel confident as a midwife practitioner. I have never regretted my move out of the hospital system and into the community and continue to work towards having community midwifery with all the practitioners in the community team taking on their own case load as best practice here in Australia. That's why I support the Maternity Coalition and the wonderful women within it who also have the same vision of Community Midwifery Teams right across this country. I agree with your thoughts about night duty. I spent two years straight on night duty early in my midwifery career and that is where I learned the most too ... I had some great experiences with undiagnosed twins and breeches that stood me in good stead when I went out into my own practice. The fact that the doctors did not want to get out of bed at night (and that was the time most babies were born before the days of medically managed labours and births) allowed me to get up close and personal with all the women who walked through our front door. I could not help but see the difference in interventions between women who laboured at home and only came into hospital when they thought their baby was actually arriving and the poor women who were admitted to await the onset of labour or to be induced. I hope your friend (and you too) manage to find copies of Carolyn's books as they have been my inspiration when there was no one else to guide me. I think they should be included on the required reading list for every midwifery course in this country. Good luck with your searching and gathering of new knowledge Never refuse an offer of attending a labouring woman at night! Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 16 Nov, 2004, at 12:14, Graham Wende Smith wrote: A student midwife at our rural unit needs info on the KYM scheme as devised by Caroline Flint. Specifically related to events in 1987. She doesn't know what event(s) in 1987 - it is a date mentioned by her lecturer. She doesn't have internet access at the moment so I volunteered to ask for her. She is receiving a well rounded education at the moment - depending on one's point of view of course! She and I watched over a primip's waterbirth last week of an OP baby who took 3 hours of non-directed pushing to emerge. Sunday night an asymptomatic primip had a seizure with a head on view. A week or so ago there was an intervention free planned term vaginal twin birth and two colleagues have had VBACS.! Night duty is definitely the time to experience everything midwifery practice can throw at you. Thank you on her behalf for any info you can supply. Wende ( at the coal face since 1972 ) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] IMPLEMENTING NMAP IN NSW
Hi listers If you truly believe that all Australian women should have the choice of their own midwife through local Community Midwifery programs read on. Here's your chance to influence NSW maternity services by getting as many midwives and consumers from this list onto the new Area Health Advisory Councils. At last we have an opportunity to support the case for community midwifery at local level and back up all the hard work Justine and Barb have put in nationally. Applications are now open for Members and the Chair person for all of the newly structured NSW Health Areas (as advertised in last week's SMH) Further information can be found at http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/pbh/councils.html You will need three referees and a lot of good reasons why you should sit on these influential Councils but I figure there are enough listers who have the required written/verbal/communication and presentation skills, and plenty of experience in conflict resolution. If we can get enough Maternity Coalition members onto these Advisory Councils we can make lots of positive changes to the fragmented maternity services of NSW and get midwifery services out into the community where they belong. Make your move quickly as applications close Friday, 26th November 2004. Listers living in other states and territories should check with their Health Departments as to whether they are undergoing similar restructuring. Looking forward to hearing of many successful applications via the 2005 Members List. Who knows, we might even have some Chair persons! Yours in best practice Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] ACMI bulletin link
Hi Barb Thanks for this offer. I have been going to call you for the last few days but don't know where the day-time hours go lately. Just wanted to tell you I caught the last ten minutes of your Radio talk - (with Theo) and thought it went along really well. I was totally impressed with what I heard from both of you. A few of my friends caught it as did my brother so it had a wider audience than the ozmidwifery list. Well done! Catch up with you one of these days. Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 3 Nov, 2004, at 18:11, Dr Barbara Vernon wrote: x-tad-biggerDear all,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerlatest College of Midwives e-bulletin/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerhas been issued today, with an update on midwifery issues, media interviews and other activities in recent weeks:/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerIf you would like to receive this monthly e-bulletin automatically you are most welcome to join the bulletin list whether or not you are a member of the College (though of course we would welcome your support through membership!! visit/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerfor more info). Just follow the instructions at the end of the bulletin./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerKind regards, Barb./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerDr Barbara Vernon/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerExecutive Officer/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerAustralian College of Midwives/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerPh +61 2 6230 7333/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerMob 0438 855 529/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger'Midwifery: Pathways to Healthy Nations'/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger27th Congress of the International Confederation of Midwives/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerBrisbaneConvention Centre, 24-28 July 2005/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerwww.midwives2005.com/index.shtml/x-tad-bigger
[ozmidwifery] Homebirth Awareness - Today's the day to ACT!
Good Morning Listers Just reporting that both the Sunday Herald and SundayTelegraph ran stories on HOMEBIRTHS today. I also heard the exciting news that home births may soon be funded in NSW on 2GB (both 5am and 6am newscasts) so thought it appropriate to follow through with a nice little home birth garden story on Graham Ross's Gardening Show Graham was most interested and already knew of the value of placenta's to roses .. it came across as the home birth communities contribution to gardening. The spin-off from my call was that the 2GB producer then asked me if I would contribute something to Luke Bonnar's show (which has an emphasis on good health) which runs between 9am and noon. Can everyone get cracking today? Strike while the iron is hot and respond to talk-back radio or else write a letter to the newspapers in response to their stories. See if you can get photographers to your picnics and other home birth awareness events this week. I mentioned the forthcoming HBA Conference in WA so perhaps others can continue to publicise that event. Have a great week everyone ... I'm waiting for a now 2 weeks overdue baby that perhaps realises the importance of waiting to be the first baby born on Monday. Yours in home birthing Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] ICM conference
Hi to Lieve and any other overseas midwives who access this list. If you are coming to the ICM and would like to have a fun-filled week with myself and Robyn Thompson before you meet with Andrea, Trish and and all the ACMI crew, check out our MIDWIFERY AUSTRALIA website. Robyn and I have organised a professional tour that will include the major sights of the NSW north coast while meeting Australian midwives in their workplace along the way. All pre-congress tour costs with MIDWIFERY AUSTRALIA will be TAX DEDUCTABLE. Please vist www.midwiferyaustralia.com.au See you in Sydney first Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 13 Oct, 2004, at 21:25, ID AC Quanchi wrote: Lieve, Any chance you can come to the ICM conference in Brisbane next year and we would all be ableto meet you Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Uniting midwives midwifery students
RX ENCOURAGE ALL PRACTISING MIDWIVES TO JOIN THE MATERNITY COALITION, FORM A LOCAL GROUP AND LET THE MOTHERS IN YOUR AREA KNOW MIDWIVES EXIST. INVITE WOMEN TO COME AND SEE THE WONDERFUL SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED BY MIDWIVES IN YOUR LOCAL HOSPITAL. GET OUT AND TALK TO YOUNGER WOMEN WHO HAVE NOT YET FINISHED THEIR SCHOOLING. Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 10 Oct, 2004, at 13:03, Callum Kirsten wrote: So true Louise, In NZ there is a saying...woman need midwives need woman It is usually shown with the words forming a circle... Unfortunately there are still so many woman out there who don't know what a midwife could offer...It is really sad. I know our branch of ACMI are looking at taking it back to ground level and getting out there and educating woman on what a midwife is and what we offer... Without the woman of NZ being so political and vocal, midwives wouldn't be where they are now in NZ. It was a joint fight between midwives and woman, and it paid off. How do we get that here? Firstly i guess we need to unite midwives. Personally i don't give a toss where we train, whether it's RN or direct entry. As far as i'm concerned how you train does not make the midwife. As a Bmid student i get alot of critisicm about not being an RN, and some hospitals have asked when i would be doing my RN's as until then i am unemployable to them! The amazing midwives who i am learning from up here in the NT, and the same ones who are being devistated by the legislation up here are RN trained midwives and i couldn't ask for better mentors! But back to the public support, what do we do to unite as midwives and then to unite as woman and midwives??? Kirsten Darwin ~~~start life with a midwife~~~ - Original Message - From: Geoff Louise Wightman [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Uniting midwives midwifery students My biggest concern is that the postnatal area seems to be fair game as an area for RN's to move into as it would seem the value of a midwife in the eyes of management only extends to birth suite. Should we not ask the general public to consider this issue? Who would they like to give them the best care a midwife or an RN that has had a quick orientation to the postanatal area? Without public support, midwives will be fighting a losing battle as economics takes over. In dispair Louise - Original Message - From: Sadie [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Uniting midwives midwifery students I thought RN's couldn't work on labour ward because of insurance? At KEMH even agency midwives (excluding Nurse West) cannot work on labour ward because the insurance does not cover them. Sadie -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1.889 (20041008) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Independent Midwives support of women in Theatre
Hi Marie It's absolutely essential that the person who will be providing on-going care for the mother and baby is present at the birth if adequate debriefing is to take place over the next few weeks. Have a talk to the administrators at St George and RPAWC. They are both pretty good at asking the midwife in to a surgical birth. They may be able to provide you with some written ammunition to take along to the recalcitrant hospital. It might also be helpful to have a written birth plan presented to the hospital beforehand so that every couple's wishes are known to the hospital staff should a caesarean birth become necessary. Good luck at the meeting Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 6 Oct, 2004, at 23:11, Marie Heath wrote: Hi everyone Hopeful of some quick assistance as seeking points and references to reflect the importance of independent midwives, as primary care providers, supporting their clients in theatre when lscs becomes a required procedure One particular hospital has stepped backwards, and whilst ipm relationships are acknowledged by midwifery staff, theatre staff have deemed that only the partner can attend theatre with the women. Have to meet with midwifery and theatre management Friday - any comments, and references to support why our relationship [as a recognised midwife - not as a support person] with our clients is essential - would be greatly appreciated Regards to all Marie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004
Re: [ozmidwifery] Scottish parliament approves bill to protect right to breastfeed in pub
Thanks for this Denise I'll put it in the next Communique. I also want to get hold of the front p;age of the Fremantle Herald that reads McGinty fails midwives I don't suppose any of the midwives over there scanned it into their computers? I will phone Laraine Hood this morning to find out if she has it. Brian McKenna has just been over to WA to an insurance conference and then went on to UK to see what he could do via Lloyds. Am waiting for him to return with great apprehension. He will never do business through the College again but we might have a chance through ASIM if we can get the numbers. Keep up the good work you are doing in WA. I don't think I'll be seeing you at the HBA but you never know ... my next client due keeps telling me that she is going early and as she is coming out to Penrith with me tomorrow to shout and scream with Justine maybe that will get her into labour. Who knows. Talk soon. Jan PS Don't worry if you don't have the Herald scanned. I will probably be able to request it via their email address. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Sep, 2004, at 20:38, Denise Hynd wrote: Forwarded by Denise Hynd x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerUNICEF UK Baby Friendly Initiative/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerFriday, September 24, 2004 7:47 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerScottish parliament approves bill to protect right to breastfeed in pub/x-tad-bigger image.tiff> 24 September 2004 Scottish parliament approves bill to protect mothers' right to breastfeed in public Members of the Scottish Parliament have voted overwhelmingly in favour of a bill which will make it a criminal offence to harrass or discriminate against a mother who feeds her baby in public. The Breastfeeding, etc. (Scotland) Bill was passed yesterday by 80 votes to 15. It is now expected to become law by the end of the year. UNICEF UK supports the bill and helped its sponsor, Labour MSP Elaine Smith, to launch it in Summer 2002. The bill seeks to make it an offence for venues which usually admit children to prevent mothers from breast- or bottle feeding their babies. UNICEF recently commended the pro-active approach by the Scottish Executive in promoting breastfeeding. This bill is a further example of the positive approach being taken in Scotland. Links: BBC coverage Scottish Parliament pages Scotland leads the way in Baby Friendly progress x-tad-smallerThis is a news update from the UNICEF UK Baby Friendly Initiative. To unsubscribe or to change your subscription, /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerclick here/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller./x-tad-smaller image.tiff>x-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerSubscribe/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerUnsubscribe/x-tad-smaller
Re: [ozmidwifery] Put Midwifery Care on the Agenda Thurs Sep 30
Count me in too Justine Can't wait for the action Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 24 Sep, 2004, at 08:38, Abby and Toby wrote: I'll be there with bells on!! Love Abby x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJustine Caines/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJulie Clarke/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ;/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOzMid List/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ; /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerPat Brodie/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ;/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerHannah Dahlen/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ;/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger; /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerLisa Metcalfe/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger; /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerNicole Christensen/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger; /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerMC NSW Branch/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerFriday, September 24, 2004 12:21 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[ozmidwifery] Put Midwifery Care on the Agenda Thurs Sep 30/x-tad-bigger Dear All As part of Maternity Coalitions election campaign, women are gathering outside Jackie Kellys electorate office in Penrith to highlight the lack of choice in maternity care (and particularly that the Nepean Birth Centre has remained closed for 3 years). Jackie Kelly is the Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister and is the member that the PM chose When launching his Medicare Package. Jackie was the Government rep at the federal launch of NMAP in September 2002. Despite her personal support her Gov has done nothing to give women and families choice in maternity care. We plan to remind her on Thursday Sep 30. We plan to make a strong and positive statement of the need for an election commitment on what is such a critical part of a woman and families life. If you can possibly come we would appreciate your support. When: Thursday September 30 11am Where: Jackie Kellys electorate office cnr of Woodriff and Tindale Streets PENRITH More Details: Justine Caines or Jo Hunter 0408210273 47519840
Re: [ozmidwifery] midwives.com.au
Hi Simona Ozzie midwives already have access to ozmidwifery to generate professional debate and interaction across the world. We also have websites that we can use to profile our practices provided by the ACMI and ASIM. This list sounds like it will become a data base for internet shopping eventually. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Jan Robinson Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 23 Sep, 2004, at 20:43, Sue Cookson wrote: Hi Simona, An interesting concept with your website, but if I may ask, who are you and what is your birthing philosophy; is the website your private domain or is it subsidised by anyone? Having been an active part of the homebirth movement in Australia for over 20 years, I'm not sure that I know who you are and what your motives are and who you classify as a midwife? I mean no disrespect here, but am interested in your history/philosophy/motivation. Sue Cookson Hello I would like to make all Midwives aware that the Midwives message board is now up and running at www.midwives.com.au click on your say and sign up (midwives only). You can still opt to have postings sent to your own email box - however there is a great advantage to visiting the Your Say message boards in your own time, rather than having your email box filled with subjects and posts that are really of no interest to you - and simply clutter up your email box. The service is free. Alll Midwives that sign up to the service between now and the end of October will be entered in a free draw - the winner will get their own profile on www.midwives.com.au Whilst www.midwives.com.au is still partly under construction, there is already plenty to see - especially in the your Shop section. This website is based and run here in Australia - however due to the incredible service that is offered in supporting the midwife memorabilia by cafepress, the products are shipped from the USA -globally, take about 7-10 days. This site is designed primarily to create greater awaress of midwifery - both here in Australia and worldwide. One of the services offered is to have your own midwives email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The long term goals regarding www.midwives.com.au is to create a search engine for everything midwifery - and we would love to hear your idea's both for products in the shop and anything else you would like to see featured on the site. Thanks for reading Warmest regards Simona _ Smart Saving with ING Direct earn 5.25% p.a. variable rate: http://ad.au.doubleclick.net/clk;7249209;8842331;n?http://www.ingdirect.com.au /burst6offer.asp?id=8 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Doula conference
Hi Denise Have circulated this to the ASIM midwives. Most of us are flat chat at the moment. Good luck with it Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 11 Sep, 2004, at 09:03, Denise Love wrote: First NationalDoulaconferencex-tad-biggeris Here..Sept 1819join us for a wonderful weekend of sharing birth infobelly dancing, drumming and good food!Woman are gathering from all over Australia.email me for more info or get you rego forms in if you already haventFort hose waiting for the venue.Brent Street School of Performing Arts./x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger723 Elizabeth St Waterloo 1440/x-tad-bigger x-tad-smaller/x-tad-smaller x-tad-biggerDenise x/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger image.tiff>x-tad-smallerEverything you ever need to know about birth and living! Doula School/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerDenise Love/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerBirth Central-LifeOptions/Doula express/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerShop 101/10 Lachlan St,/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerMOORE PARK /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerwww.e-lifeoptions.com/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallertel:/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller1300 139 507/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerSignature powered by Plaxo/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerWant a signature like this?/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerAdd me to your address book.../x-tad-smaller
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwives wanted on the East Coast
Hi Laraine If you refer her to me I can give them midwives' to contact at North Ryde ... not sure where Springfied is but will possibibly be able to give her some information. Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 11 Sep, 2004, at 20:01, Laraine Hood wrote: I have two clients who have moved to the East from WA. One will be in North Ryde, NSW. Primip, and wanting either a home birth, preferably with a Christian midwife, or birth centre birth. The other is G3 in Springfield, NSW. Her history is one B. centre and one homebirth. Could anyone with info for either of these clients please email me, off list if preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your help. Laraine
