Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[Ken Archer]

I still can't get the zoom to work.  I may have to order two manuals.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> Do they still charge $4 for bipedal manual? :)
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?
> 
> 
> > Ken Archer wrote:
> > > 
> > > I did and I'm still trying to figure out how to make it zoom ;-)
> > 
> > It employs the advanced and complicated bipedal zoom mechanism.
> > 
> > You may need to get a manual from Pentax.
> > 
> > tv
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:12:27 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Man, you should have grabbed that sucker! Talk about RARE!  :-))
> > > >
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Re: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)

[Alan Chan]

> >What do you usually use a 50mm for? It seems too long
> >for a nice landscape and too short for a portrait. I
> >would love to get the lens (been rated too well to
> >ignore it) but I really don't know how useful it can
> >be. It would be nice if other readers could contribute
> >what they would use a 50mm for, too.

I have found myself using lenses from 24mm to 400mm (210 + 2X actually) for 
landscape. So I guess 50mm is not too long for landscape.

regards,
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Re: Repeat messages?

[David P. Chernicoff]

At 11:16 PM 3/12/2001 -0600, Ken Archer wrote:
>It's only paranoia when you just think they're out to get you.  In your case,
>they real are out to get you.
>
>On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > Good paranoia is never truly wasted ...
> >
> > Tom Rittenhouse obsessed:
> >
> > > Darn! You mean I wasted all that paranoia?

Even paranoids have enemies -

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Re: Repeat messages?

[Ken Archer]

It's only paranoia when you just think they're out to get you.  In your case,
they real are out to get you.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> Good paranoia is never truly wasted ...
> 
> Tom Rittenhouse obsessed:
> 
> > Darn! You mean I wasted all that paranoia?
> > 
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Re: Interesting old Pentax book found.

[Rofini]

Cesar asks:

> PENTAX & SINGLE-LENS REFLEX PHOTOGRAPHY
> by Robert Fuhring

> Anyone else come across this book?

I have the fifth edition featuring the Spotmatic  and have been
through it a couple of times. It's encouraging (for us manual
focus users) to read the older literature when these cameras
were praised as fast, capable instruments. Useful in discussion
of handling these cameras..you are expected to fire off two
frames per second with perfect composition. Like most older
books, very sparse on the types of lens discussions that crop up
on PDML.

Mark Rofini

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Re: Interesting old Pentax book found.

[William Johnson]

Hi César,


As my travel continues in Utah, I stopped in a
>book store 

Was this Sam Weller's?  If you like books, this is the
place.

as I was
>walking around taking photos.  Of course I had to
>peruse the photo section,
>talk about old books!  I found an interesting small
>photo book with a
>Honeywell Pentax on the cover.


 >   PENTAX & SINGLE-LENS REFLEX PHOTOGRAPHY
 >   by Robert Fuhring
 >   Copyright 1962,

I don't have this one, but some time back at Sam
Weller's I came across one of similar vintage:

New Heiland Pentax SLR Guide
by Kenneth S. Tydings
Copyright 1961, 2nd printing 1962.

It's been fun to read and of course the pictures of
the equipment are informative.

Some of these old books are a hoot in that they aren't
too "politically correct".  I was looking at one there
about 6 months ago from the '60's and it described the
105/2.8 takumar as "a lens that you can focus on any
portion of a young lady's anatomy without her being
any the wiser".

How times have changed, huh?

Today you would need at least a 300mm  :-)

Hope you are enjoying your stay here.

William in Utah.





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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[John Glover]

Do they still charge $4 for bipedal manual? :)


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?


> Ken Archer wrote:
> > 
> > I did and I'm still trying to figure out how to make it zoom ;-)
> 
> It employs the advanced and complicated bipedal zoom mechanism.
> 
> You may need to get a manual from Pentax.
> 
> tv
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:12:27 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:
> > >
> > > >I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)
> > >
> > > Man, you should have grabbed that sucker! Talk about RARE!  :-))
> > >
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Re: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)

[John Glover]

Except for the FA 28-70/4 AL, probably among the best of the 'standard' 28-70 out 
there..Also, the F 28-80 is also a good lens as well.  I've never used the F 
28-80 but do have the 28-70/4 and for the money, you'll not find a better lens in its 
class, IMHO.

John



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Subject: Re: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)


>  (And many of the now 'standard' size zooms, (in the 28-70 or 28-80
> category,) have terrible ratings. Especially the Pentax's, sorry to say...)
> But there are good 3rd party standard range zooms available too. Just check
> 

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Re: Self-timer on Super Program

[Steve Scott]

>> it shouldn't be too tough to fix if what Alan Chan says about the dirty
contact is true. <<

I sure hope that's the case.  My self timer ceased functioning many years ago
on my Super Program of nearly 18 years vintage.  I also had the film counter
fail to reset when the camera was new but got that repaired under warranty.
The self timer problem only showed up well after the warranty period was over.

I just took the camera in for it's first ever CLA and asked if they could look
at the timer switch.  I figured it's just an electrical contact which perhaps
is not making contact.  Let's see if that pans out.

My package consists of the Super Program, MotorDrive-A, A50/1.7, A70-210/4 and
AF280T.  I have M lenses (28/3.5 and 135/3.5) plus a K 45-125/4 (still one of
my favorite lenses).  Just sold my A50/2.8 Macro, K24/2.8 and Kiron 80-200/4 on
eBay recently.  Hoping to pick up an M200/4 soon.

Regards,
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Alan Chan wrote:

> >Yep, that's what I do...and it doesn't work :(
> >Ah well, it shouldn't be too tough to fix if what Alan Chan says
> >about the dirty contact is true.
> >And I did get the whole package (Program Plus, A50/1.4,
> >A70-210/4, A35-105/3.5, AF200T, filters, etc.) for a great
> >price.
>
> You have three great lenses at least. 8-) About the self-timer, that's what
> the repairman told me. He said this was a common problem with the Super
> A/Program. I did not try to fixed it myself, but you can peel off the
> leather to see if you can isolate the timer switch without strip down the
> camera. If not, you better let the professional do the job. The shutter
> release button often has similar problem too.
>
> regards,
> Alan Chan
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Interesting old Pentax book found.

[Matamoros, Cesar A.]

As my travel continues in Utah, I stopped in a book store as I was
walking around taking photos.  Of course I had to peruse the photo section,
talk about old books!  I found an interesting small photo book with a
Honeywell Pentax on the cover.

PENTAX & SINGLE-LENS REFLEX PHOTOGRAPHY
by Robert Fuhring
Copyright 1962, Second Printing, February, 1963
American Photographic Book Publishing Company, Inc.
Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 62-12301

I have only gotten through the introduction the book is only 123
pages long.  His emphasis is on the H-1 and H-3.  The last three pages list
those two cameras with all sorts of lenses and accessories.

I quote from the introduction - 
' I hope to show that with the Pentax you can tackle a broader range
of subject matter, at more reasonable cost, than with any other camera
system.' 
  ...
'An unusual number of talented magazine and newpaper photographers
have come to use the new Pentaxes, and their reasons should also be reasons
why any serious photographer will want to consider this camera.  Pentax
prices, downright modest in view of the quality and performance, also bring
the highest standards within reach of many more photographers.'

With that alone it seems to be that it may make for interesting
reading.

Anyone else come across this book?

César
Hanging out in Utah


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Re: old archive

[IronWorks]

Yes - at http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/

Maris Lidaka

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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:35 PM
Subject: old archive


| Hi
|
| is the old pentax discussion list archived somewhere - discuss.pentax.com
| My search engine keeps teasing me with references to the old list that
look
| interesting!
|
| Alastair Robertson
|
| 
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| Ecology, Institute of Natural Resources
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Re: Repeat messages?

[Treena Harp]

Good paranoia is never truly wasted ...

Tom Rittenhouse obsessed:

> Darn! You mean I wasted all that paranoia?
> 
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Re: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)

[Steve Scott]

I shot a whole roll of KodaColor 400 inside the USAF museum in Dayton,
OH in the early 80's.  All of it was with my 50/1.4 and available
light.  I was more than pleased with the results.  I relied mostly with
the camera's meter.  I don't remember if I used my K-1000 or MX.  I
don't think I had an ME at the time.  Especially stunning was their
stained glass window.   I could capture a full static display without
cropping.  Anything wider would have looked too busy.  The 50 is
definitely your most versatile lens.

Regards,
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Kelvin Ang wrote:

> Hello Skip,
>
> What do you usually use a 50mm for? It seems too long
> for a nice landscape and too short for a portrait. I
> would love to get the lens (been rated too well to
> ignore it) but I really don't know how useful it can
> be. It would be nice if other readers could contribute
> what they would use a 50mm for, too.
>
> Kelvin
>
> --- dosk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes. Although the DOF, [the part of the picture
> > available just in front of,
> > or just behind, the focused upon subject] is greatly
> > limited as far as what
> > one can include in a close-up f1.4 shot.
> > But this is true with every fast, wide open lens...
> > And at least the FA 50/1.4 focuses sharp as a tack
> > [at every aperture, tho
> > some better than others, naturally] on whatever
> > subject matter is included.
> > And can do so w/o flash, and in very dim light!
> > I have it, and it always goes wherever my SLR
> > goes...
> > A must for outdoor night scenes, and interiors in
> > available light!
> > A fantastic lens!
> > Skip
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Re: FILM V DIGITAL (humorous)

[Todd Stanley]

Well I shot a picture with a film grained Fuji slide film with my Pentax
camera, tripod, and FA* glass, and got a nice Ilfochrome made from it, then
I a picture with my Barbiecam from a moving car and printed it out on my
dot matrix printer.  The film picture is way better so obviously everything
digital is crap!  :)

Todd

At 11:06 PM 3/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Over on rec.photo.? a gentle man has compared film v digital and
>concluded that digital is better.  He did this by scanning a 4x6
>photo and printing it out as a 8x12 and printing an 8x12 taken
>with his 3 megapixel camera.  He says the digital picture was
>definitely the better of the two.
>
>???
>--Tom
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old archive

[Robertson, Alastair]

Hi

is the old pentax discussion list archived somewhere - discuss.pentax.com 
My search engine keeps teasing me with references to the old list that look
interesting!

Alastair Robertson


Dr Alastair W. Robertson, Senior Lecturer
Ecology, Institute of Natural Resources
Massey University, Private Bag 11222
Palmerston North, NEW ZEALAND
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Re: Repeat messages?

[Tom Rittenhouse]

Darn! You mean I wasted all that paranoia?


Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm not usually one to let a good conspiracy theory die on the vine, but in 
>this case it was Ken's ISP. They had cached a bunch of messages, and then instead of 
>forwarding, they reversed them back into the pdml server. interesting. I contacted 
>the tech people there, who didn't sound surprised.
> 
> Doug
> 
> At 3:42 PM -05003/11/01, Tom Rittenhouse caused thus to appear:
> >Heck, maybe my multiple message problem wasn't Netscape after
> >all.  This kind of sounds like maybe a bomb type virus attacking
> >mail and list servers is going around.  I wonder how many other
> >servers have had this kind problem over the past week or so?


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Re: Me Super Fixer?

[Ken Archer]

I bookmarked his page earlier.  I would sure be interested in how things turn
out for you.  Now I know why there is protection in large groups.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> Hello all;
>  I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything good or
> bad about him.  If not, perhaps I will play guinea pig
> for the list and let you know how it goes.  He is from
> California, btw.
> 
> 
> dave
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FILM V DIGITAL (humorous)

[Tom Rittenhouse]

Over on rec.photo.? a gentle man has compared film v digital and
concluded that digital is better.  He did this by scanning a 4x6
photo and printing it out as a 8x12 and printing an 8x12 taken
with his 3 megapixel camera.  He says the digital picture was
definitely the better of the two.

???
--Tom

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Re: FP and X was(Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera )

[Tom Rittenhouse]

On Ebay they call them unused old stock. As far as I know there
is only one company in the world currently making flash bulbs.  
There is/was supposed to be another one in China but I have
never found any information on them. Megaflash in Ireland does
not make FP rated bulbs as far as I know.

Now about that "unused" thing they are always saying on Ebay. 
Maybe I could advertise, "Collector's special. Once used flash
bulbs? These flash bulbs were used only one time with a genuine
Speed Graphic in a real Graflite flashgun by a actual
photographer.  Bid early and bid high, these will go fast to
serious collectors. 
--Tom


Ken Archer wrote:
> 
> Once upon a time, you could buy a long duration "focal plane" flash bulb.  I
> guess you still can, but I haven't seen one in a long time.  Anyway, the X was
> for electronic flash and the FP for focal plane bulbs.


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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[Gary L. Murphy]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:15:26 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:

>I would've, but I'd just made a great deal on a slightly used bridge in
>Brooklyn, and din't have any money left.

ROTFLMAO!!  :-)

Way to go, Dan!





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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[Gary L. Murphy]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:31:13 -0600, Ken Archer wrote:

>I did and I'm still trying to figure out how to make it zoom ;-)

Use a reversing ring!  :-)




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Re: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)

[dosk]

A ("normal") 50mm f1.4?? (Or f1.7, f1.8, f1.9, f2.0...)

I find a 50 ideal for those scenes that are "busy"; scenes that have a lot
in them (like city street scenes), where you might not want to use a WA lens
because the shot would then become cluttered.
IMO it's good for landscapes in that particular condensing way, but then
it's also excellent for expanded close-ups where you want close detail of a
subject (say, like a tree, or a store front, or a car,) but also want to get
the whole width of the subject in. And it does not distort perspective, like
the way many WA and telefoto lenses do.
Last Sunday I had to shoot quilted artwork on the walls of a church, as a
favor for a friend. I couldn't have asked for a more perfect lens than a
50/1.4 to do it!
It's also great for dim light scenes, both interior and exterior, where you
might want to keep the lighting soft and natural and not flattened out with
flash. (And nighttime street scenes are fantastic!)
It's not a telephoto and it's barely a WA, so it has neither's faults. A 50
is in between, and as such is extremely versatile. (And it can teach one a
great deal about composing.)  So much so, that years ago many famous (and
non-famous) photographers thought nothing of going on a shoot with their SLR
equipped with ONLY a 50mm lens.
Also, with a good make 2x tele-converter, your 50/1.4 becomes a rather good
100/2.8. (And for not very much more money either.)

But, on the other hand, I must add that I myself like the 'prime' (means:
non-zoom)lenses for shorter ranges, and so intend to eventually also equip
myself with a 24mm or 28mm prime WA. (I already have a 2x TC, and a 50-175
tele zoom for the long end.)
And you yourself might not like to go this way; it's eventually a more
expensive system, and not one always as easy to use as, say, a 28-80mm zoom,
where you can get a lot of different focal lengths in play very quickly.
Just bear in mind that the zooms (generally speaking) are usually not quite
as sharp as the primes, and most do not come in versions faster than f3.5
unless you want to spend good $$ here also.
(And many of the now 'standard' size zooms, (in the 28-70 or 28-80
category,) have terrible ratings. Especially the Pentax's, sorry to say...)
But there are good 3rd party standard range zooms available too. Just check
the ratings before you buy...

I'm not trying to convince you of anything here. You have to figure out
yourself which way you want to go in photography. But IMO a good 50mm is a
good way to begin. (And keep in mind that if you ever do buy a lens you
don't like, in today's camera market (especially on e-bay) you can usually
get most of your money back on the re-sale of a good lens.)
Hope this helps...
Skip


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From: "Kelvin Ang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:28 PM
Subject: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)


> Hello Skip,
>
> What do you usually use a 50mm for? It seems too long
> for a nice landscape and too short for a portrait. I
> would love to get the lens (been rated too well to
> ignore it) but I really don't know how useful it can
> be. It would be nice if other readers could contribute
> what they would use a 50mm for, too.
>
> Kelvin
>
> --- dosk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes. Although the DOF, [the part of the picture
> > available just in front of,
> > or just behind, the focused upon subject] is greatly
> > limited as far as what
> > one can include in a close-up f1.4 shot.
> > But this is true with every fast, wide open lens...
> > And at least the FA 50/1.4 focuses sharp as a tack
> > [at every aperture, tho
> > some better than others, naturally] on whatever
> > subject matter is included.
> > And can do so w/o flash, and in very dim light!
> > I have it, and it always goes wherever my SLR
> > goes...
> > A must for outdoor night scenes, and interiors in
> > available light!
> > A fantastic lens!
> > Skip
>
>
>
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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[Dan Scott]

>On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:12:27 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:
>
>>I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)
>
>Man, you should have grabbed that sucker! Talk about RARE!  :-))
>
>
>
>
>Later,
>Gary

I would've, but I'd just made a great deal on a slightly used bridge in
Brooklyn, and din't have any money left.

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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[tom]

Ken Archer wrote:
> 
> I did and I'm still trying to figure out how to make it zoom ;-)

It employs the advanced and complicated bipedal zoom mechanism.

You may need to get a manual from Pentax.

tv

> 
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:12:27 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:
> >
> > >I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)
> >
> > Man, you should have grabbed that sucker! Talk about RARE!  :-))
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Re: 1.4X or 1.5X teleconvertor in screw mount?

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Larson" <> Steve Larson
> Redondo Beach, California
>  Never under any circumstances take a sleeping pill and a
laxative
> on the same night. 

Is that what I am doing wrong
Jeeze, now I feel dumb.
Wheatfield

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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[Ken Archer]

I did and I'm still trying to figure out how to make it zoom ;-)

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:12:27 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:
> 
> >I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)
> 
> Man, you should have grabbed that sucker! Talk about RARE!  :-))
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Later,
> Gary
> 
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Re: Neutral Density Filter

[Paul Jones]

Hi,

Thanks for that, it was pretty much as i thought. i was just confirming :)

Thanks
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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Neutral Density Filter


> Paul Jones wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am wondering what a neutral density filter is for? I have a couple
that
> > just look like there the equivelant of sunglasses for the lense.
>
> Sometimes the scene is too bright for the aperture or shutter speed you
> want. You use a ND filter to reign it in. Here's an example:
>
> http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/co_stream1.html
>
> I wanted a shutter speed somewhere between 1/8 and 1/2 second to get the
> cotton candy effect. I was using velvia, but even stopped down to f/22 I
> was getting shutter speeds around 1/30 or 1/60.
>
> A ND filter would have been useful. (I ended up using an ND grad, a
> polarizer, and rating the film at 25.)
>
> > I was also curious about the neutral density gtaduated filters, do these
> > just fade from a heavier tint to a lighter tint?
>
> From tinted to untinted. The typical use is holding detail in the sky
> when shooting landscapes.
>
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1.4X or 1.5X teleconvertor in screw mount?

[Steve Larson]

Hi all,
 Has anyone ever seen or own a 1.4X or 1.5X teleconvertor in screw mount?

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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OT: Pic o' the day

[tom]

Sorry guys, you're going to be inundated

http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/balto_tower_10030001.html

FA 645 120/4 Macro, Pan F+, 25 filter

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Me Super Fixer?

[Dave Weiss]

Hello all;

I have been in contact with a guy named Klaus
Garcia who has offered to fix my Me Super for 
what I consider to be a small sum.  My Me Super
does not advance the film at first, and then, 
after retrying about 50 times, it will advance it
every third time, then every other time, then 
everytime.  If it sits again for awhile, this
process must be done again.  Anyhow, he seems 
knowledgable.  He says it is a "gummy mechanism 
caused by breakdown of mirror charge arm return 
damper."


 I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything good or
bad about him.  If not, perhaps I will play guinea pig
for the list and let you know how it goes.  He is from
California, btw.


dave





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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[Gary L. Murphy]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:12:27 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:

>I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)

Man, you should have grabbed that sucker! Talk about RARE!  :-))




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Re: My first Spotmatic... and a question

[Steve Larson]

Hi Gianfranco,
 Congrats on the Spotmatic! I`m glad it cleaned up OK for you. I think
you will like it.
I can`t answer the question, yet. I picked up a Super Tak 50 1.4, but have
not
used it yet.
 I did`nt know there were two versions of the 50mm 1.4 Super Tak. How do you
tell them apart? Peter Jonkman`s page lists them both, the 8 element /7
group,
 and the 7 element/6 group, but with no pics. The weight is different, one
is
245 grammes, and the other is 230, and I don`t have a scale.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: My first Spotmatic... and a question


> Hi everybody,
>
> This afternoon, while heading home, I've been attracted by a "bargain"
> Spotmatic SP offered at a very nice price. The camera had some corrosion
on
> the top and around the mount. It worked fine, though (I couldn't test the
> meter - dead battery) and had its original case (in very good shape) and a
> Super Takumar 50/1.4. The seller asked me 48 US$ for it. The last two
> Spotmatics (F?) I saw around here went for something like 180 US$ (one
LINB,
> the other had a kind of sticky mirror problem) so I bought the SP on the
> spot.
> Back home I started to clean the camera and - surprise! - the corrosion
was
> superficial only. Only between the pentaprism and the speed knob the
surface
> still looks mat and shows some wear.
> Now the SP looks good and I think it has been barely used for a very long
time
> (it shows no brassing, scratches or dents of any kind). The lens is the
> cleanest I've ever seen (now I understand why so many people still loves
the
> old screwmount Pentax lenses) :)
> Now the question: how does the Super-Takumar 50/1.4 compares to the K, KM
and
> F/FA versions? It's the second version (seven elements in six groups).
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Gianfranco
>
> PS. Er, Albano? Please add an SP.
>
> 
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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

[Dan Scott]

>When it's described on EBay, of course:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1221346392
>
>
>Paul Franklin Stregevsky
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>W: (703) 834-4648

Ha! That's nothing.

I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)

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Re: Pros don't use Pentax?

[Shel Belinkoff]

Baron Wolman just recently started using a Pentax 928 P&S for some
of his everyday shooting.  He LOVES the camera.  To hear him talk,
he's more excited about it than his Nikon gear ... I kid you not.

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Re: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)

[PAUL STENQUIST]

I find that a 50mm lens is frequently a good choice to frame a
full-figure portrait, a small group of people or a street scene. (My
current PUG submission is a street scene that was shot with a 50.) The
50 works well for photographing some indoor activities. I've used it on
a couple of occasions to photograph  billiard players. I sometimes use
the 50 for landscapes as well, but I do find that its "normal"
perspective can be a bit bland in this type of photography. 

Kelvin Ang wrote:
> 
> Hello Skip,
> 
> What do you usually use a 50mm for? It seems too long
> for a nice landscape and too short for a portrait. I
> would love to get the lens (been rated too well to
> ignore it) but I really don't know how useful it can
> be. It would be nice if other readers could contribute
> what they would use a 50mm for, too.
> 
> Kelvin
> 
> --- dosk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes. Although the DOF, [the part of the picture
> > available just in front of,
> > or just behind, the focused upon subject] is greatly
> > limited as far as what
> > one can include in a close-up f1.4 shot.
> > But this is true with every fast, wide open lens...
> > And at least the FA 50/1.4 focuses sharp as a tack
> > [at every aperture, tho
> > some better than others, naturally] on whatever
> > subject matter is included.
> > And can do so w/o flash, and in very dim light!
> > I have it, and it always goes wherever my SLR
> > goes...
> > A must for outdoor night scenes, and interiors in
> > available light!
> > A fantastic lens!
> > Skip
> 
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Re: My first Spotmatic... and a question

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Todd Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Nice find.  If the meter works you really got a good deal.  As for the lens
> I believe it's the same optically as the SMC Tak, K and M series F1.4 lens,
> except there is no SMC of course.  It's an excellent performer.  Enjoy!
> 
> BTW, where did you pick up this camera?  Pawn shop?
> 
> Todd

Hi Todd,
I've checked the meter with an old 1,5 volts battery - of the wrong type,
reverse mounted - that showed 1,3 volts remaining. I put the battery in the
compartment and hold the cap with a finger to allow the contact. It could
sound absurd but it works! The meter worked in the wrong way, of course (it
indicated the overexposure by pointing at the minus sign and vice versa) but
it should work fine if my little experiment didn't damage anything. :)
No pawn shop. There are some streets in Naples where a kind of "pavement
market" takes place. There are Chinese, Polish and sometimes Italian people
that sell various kind of stuff, i.e. cheap clothes, watches, fhishing rods
and so on. And, of course, used cameras and lenses; especially from Russia,
but there are often japanese cheap lenses. This Spotmatic comes from a guy I
know that has its own place in one of those streets (from the same guy I
bought a Zenitar 16mm fisheye in K mount years ago and last year a K-1000 with
a broken hotshoe, plus its 50/2,  for 65 US$).

Gianfranco


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Re: FA 28-105 3.2-4.5 AL [IF] Picture

[Douglas E Harmon]

Silver, yuck They need to start making the black models again.. Even
on the MZ/ZX series they look better

l8r,
Douglas E Harmon
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:30 AM
Subject: FA 28-105 3.2-4.5 AL [IF] Picture


: Look at
:
: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2001/200110.html
:
: Arnie
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Re: Sears lens

[Todd Stanley]

No they have several.  I think they have in K mount a non-macro, a macro,
and a macro with KA contacts.  The last two are the ones to get.

Todd

At 09:55 AM 3/12/01 +0800, you wrote:
>Yes, one of the lens is Sears 135mm but I don't know whether it has macro
>feature because I have not got it. Does Sears have only one 135mm lens?
>
>Frankie
>
>
>**
>
>From: Tiger Moses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Sears lens
>
>The is one well known Sears lens, a 135mm that had a true macro feature,
>otherwise they are all just average 3rd party lenses.
>
>At 02:13 PM 3/9/01 +0800, you wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>A friend want to sell me several old manual lenses (K-mount). Two of which
>>are "Sears" lenses. I have no knowledge of this brand. Would you please
>>tell me about its quality?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Frankie
>

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Re: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4

[Douglas E Harmon]

You can't beat the combo of the MZ/ZX with the 28-70 F4... Lite and
realatively fast, it is definately great for casual shots walking around
The lense gets a little crazy(distortion) at the wide end... Even more so
than the newer 28-80 consumer lens sold in the kits...

l8r,
Douglas E Harmon
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4


: I own both and like both.  When I bought a camera for my daughter I gave
her
: the 28-70 because my instincts (and photos) indicated that I had more
: confidence in the 28-105.  However, the28-105 is heavier, larger and I
: have recently bought another 28-70.  I like the 28-70 on my ZX5n w/o
battery
: pack, a very light combo for family shooting or walking around. However,
I
: also am gravitating back to primes for speed and quality.
: - Original Message -
: From: "adrian sorescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:48 AM
: Subject: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4
:
:
: > Hi gang,
: >
: > There is a powerzoom 28-105 lens around here in a second hand store .
: > 2 months and nobody buyed it !! :(((
: >
: > I'm pleased about my 28-70/4...but... powerzoom(& my Z-1p) and positive
: comments on
: > the list about "best consumer grade 28-105"
: >
: > I need feedback from ppl who used both lenses
: >
: > I'll do some tests this weekend.
: >
: > thanks in advance,
: > adrian sorescu
: >
: >
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Re: Don't you just hate being too late on eBay?

[Todd Stanley]

Well, that's good to know.  Have fun with it, and if you don't like it I'll
take it off your hands for $100 :)

Todd

At 09:11 PM 3/11/01 EST, you wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
><< http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1221287672
> 
> $99?!?!?  ARRGHHH  >>
>
>Todd,
>
>It's going to a good home...
>
>Regards,  Bob S.
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RE: Accessory hose for sale!

[Peter Smith]

Looks to me like the hose that goes between a bicycle pump and the tyre
valve.

Peter

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johan Schoone
> Sent: 12 March 2001 15:00
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Accessory hose for sale!
>
>
> X - A scroll of news from
> Mark Roberts  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Read it? [yn] y
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1220636208
> >
> >Damned if *I* know what it is... ;)
>
> It is a bit short to connect a pneumatic tool to an air compressor.
>
> ObPhoto: Check out
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1221453874
> --
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Re: What do you shoot with 50mm?

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Kelvin Ang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Skip,
> 
> What do you usually use a 50mm for? It seems too long
> for a nice landscape and too short for a portrait. I
> would love to get the lens (been rated too well to
> ignore it) but I really don't know how useful it can
> be. It would be nice if other readers could contribute
> what they would use a 50mm for, too.
 
Hi Kelvin and all,
I should say "almost anything", because "anything" would be a lie, although
not far from the truth. I usually have with me the K-1000 with its 50/1.7,
plus a 28 and a 100 in the bag, but the 50mm usually is my first approach to a
subject (often the only approach). Every time I have to shoot in available
light and/or I prefer to bring only a lens, the 50mm is my choice. I like it
for full/half size (lenght?) portrait too (not only head, of course).

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RE: Ebay - Buy it Now!

[Frits J. Wüthrich]

Auction ends when time runs out. Item goes to the highest bidder, whatever
the price.

Frits
>
>
> I 'spose since a reserve price not met constitutes a non-auction.
>  How does it
> work on a non-reserve auction (like most of mine)?
>
> Steve S.
> http://people.mn.mediaone.net/sscott2
>
> Tiger Moses wrote:
>
> > When did they modifiy the feature, over the weekend.
> > First bid used to kill the option, you have buy it now upto
> when the reserve
> > has been met now apparently!
> >
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Re: What do you shoot, and why?

[Gary L. Murphy]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:39:10 -0800, Mark Roberts wrote:

>He must be one of those guys from Texas :-)

Yup! It's legal here =all= the time!  :-)




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Re: What do you shoot, and why?

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I love the solitude, the focus, the hunt, the subjects, the gear, and the
> photographs. I love tracking down the ID of my latest find and picking up
> anything I can on its history or the origin of the name. I love sitting
> over my photos, trying to figure out what went right and what didn't, and
> thinking about how I'll shoot it differently next time.
> 
> So, what do you shoot? And why that?

Once a girl asked me the same question, and my answer was almost like this: "I
take pictures of things, events and persons that touch me".
It happened seven years ago.
I'm not sure if the same question would move me to the same answer now. I
still take that kind of pictures, and they usually are among my best shots,
but I probably wouldn't answer in the same way.
Now that I am a professional photographer I shoot lots of pictures of subjects
I like, and lots of subjects I don't like. What I like is architecture and
portraiture, what I dislike... everything that doesn't bring me to learn more
and improve my skills. 
My personal commitment is to take a different look at the city of Naples and
its urban life, so the most part of my pictures are urban shots. Another work
in progress concerns the life in the universities of Naples, that dates from
the late eighties.

Why? I haven't the faintest idea. 

Gianfranco




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What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)

[Kelvin Ang]

Hello Skip,

What do you usually use a 50mm for? It seems too long
for a nice landscape and too short for a portrait. I
would love to get the lens (been rated too well to
ignore it) but I really don't know how useful it can
be. It would be nice if other readers could contribute
what they would use a 50mm for, too.

Kelvin

--- dosk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Yes. Although the DOF, [the part of the picture
> available just in front of,
> or just behind, the focused upon subject] is greatly
> limited as far as what
> one can include in a close-up f1.4 shot.
> But this is true with every fast, wide open lens...
> And at least the FA 50/1.4 focuses sharp as a tack
> [at every aperture, tho
> some better than others, naturally] on whatever
> subject matter is included.
> And can do so w/o flash, and in very dim light!
> I have it, and it always goes wherever my SLR
> goes...
> A must for outdoor night scenes, and interiors in
> available light!
> A fantastic lens!
> Skip



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RE: Re[2]: FA 50mm f/1.4

[J. C. O'Connell]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelvin Ang
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: FA 50mm f/1.4
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Thanks for the clarification. I believe I got what you
> mean. Does it then make good portraits wide opened? I
> guess the 50mm focal length is too short for
> comfortable distance between the photographer and the
> subject.
> 
> Kelvin
>
Definately too short.
A 100mm to 120mm lens is MUCH better suited for portrait work.
Especially head shots. Using a 50mm for headshots is futile
and will result in very unflattering views of the subject.
JCO
 
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Re: Re[2]: FA 50mm f/1.4

[Kelvin Ang]

Hi there,

Thanks for the clarification. I believe I got what you
mean. Does it then make good portraits wide opened? I
guess the 50mm focal length is too short for
comfortable distance between the photographer and the
subject.

Kelvin

--- Alin Flaider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>
>By local edge I mean the limit between two areas
> with significant
> difference of illumination. Local contrast is best
> described as
> applying to points on opposite sides and very near
> to this border and
> characterizing the texture of the image, as opposed
> to overall
> contrast that compares the darkest and the lightest
> areas of the
> image. 
>When wide open, the lens produces very small
> halos around the most
> pronounced edges and thus blends the two distinct
> areas around an edge
> still clearly defined. The resulting effect is a
> subtle, pleasing
> softness that suits certain subjects where mood and
> atmosphere are
> more important than absolute sharpness. By f/2
> aperture, the softening
> greatly diminishes, while at f/2.8 is not visible
> anymore.
>BTW, this is not the softness most other lenses
> display at wide
> apertures, where the blending completely erases the
> local edges and
> effectively compromises the sharpness. It doesn't
> show up in the MTF
> tests either - one more reason to take these with a
> grain of salt.
>...
>Wow, hope this makes any sense.
> 
>Servus, Alin



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RE: Ebay - Buy it Now!

[J. C. O'Connell]

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tiger Moses
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 4:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Ebay - Buy it Now!
> 
> 
> When did they modifiy the feature, over the weekend.
> First bid used to kill the option, you have buy it now upto when 
> the reserve
> has been met now apparently!
> 
> 
> 
I noticed the change too. But when I went to the BIN
explaination page, it still says that the first bid
will kill the BIN feature. Shame on ebay!
JCO

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Re[2]: color reversal film?

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

actually, I'm completely wrong about this, and I apologise for
spreading my shameful ignorance around the world like a farmyard
disease :o(

It is, in fact, slide film.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, March 12, 2001, 9:55:31 PM, you wrote:

> Hi,

> reversal film is negative film, ie it is reversed.

> Another name for slide film is transparency film.

> Bob

> Monday, March 12, 2001, 9:08:52 PM, you wrote:

>> Hi
>> In the following link there is reference to "color reversal film".

>> https://www.thecamerazone.com/productdetails2.cfm?Product_ID=RAP120

>> Could anybody tell what is "color reversal film"?

>> Is "reversal film" another name to "Slide film"?

>> Thanks
>> Ramesh


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Mike Johnston's final post....for now.

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: March 12, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: See ya!


> Bill,
> Thanks.
> Listen, I've already unsubscribed, but I had one last message
in my out box
> that I forgot to post. I guess I can't post from off-list (is
that right?).
> Anyway, would you mind passing it along? Half of it will be of
iinterest to
> people, the other half is just an answer to Chris's question
about what
> people shoot, which is--typically for me--too long.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --Mike
>
>
>
>
> >>>
> I've already unsubscribed, but two little items of business I
should follow
> through on before I disappear:
>
> First, the Pentax MX reliability survey--I didn't tabulate all
the answers
> because a number of them were verbal and anecdotal, but
generally the 22
> respondants reported less reliable operation than I had
anticipated. Only 4
> people said their MX's were bulletproof and an equal number
said the
> reliability was unacceptable; the predominant answer was "not
as reliable as
> expected."
>
> The other thing that emerged from the survey is that most
people who
> answered are not using their MXs much any more--either they
are not using
> them at all or are using them in a secondary role.
>
> Fully six people mentioned that they found the K1000 more
reliable than the
> MX.
>
>
> Second, Dan wrote:
>
> > So, what do you shoot? And why that?
>
> For 20 years now I've shot 35mm black-and-white for myself. I
would say I
> basically shoot out of curiosity. I'm interested in how
photographs work and
> what they mean, and I try a lot of odd things in order to find
out more
> about what makes a good photograph.
>
> I also like equipment, mainly lenses, and I do a fair amount
of shooting
> just to find out how different lenses "look" and behave in a
variety of
> situations. I love this kind of experimenting too.
>
> I'm interested in photography mainly as a recording medium. I
take pictures
> that might be considered "diary" shots of real life. I go in
with the
> realization that most of them won't "turn out" to be "good"
photographs,
> which is okay with me.
>
> My shooting at this point has dropped down below 100 rolls a
year which is
> the lowest amount of shooting I've done since 1982. I make
maybe 600 prints
> a year, maybe a tenth of which are fine prints on 8x10 or
11x14. My favorite
> part of the process is workprinting, making quick'n'dirty
8x10's on RC paper
> to see what various negatives look like. I love the sense of
rediscovery,
> seeing what worked and what didn't. I love looking through my
stacks of
> workprints, too. Naturally as a former custom printer I can
work very fast
> (15-30 work prints in a few hours is about average) and people
not
> infrequently tell me that my work prints look better than
their final
> prints. When I do final prints I make maybe 2-3 prints in the
same time it
> takes to do ten times as many work prints. I'm a better
printer than I am a
> shooter.
>
> The photographs I'm interested in least are "standard" or
"stock" or
> "pretty" shots, and I'm allergic to anything that is dishonest
or faked. I
> would much rather make an honest photograph than a pretty one
or one that
> other people will think is "good." Despite having had a public
role in
> photography for a number of years as a writer and editor, I
see my own
> photography as purely a personal hobby and I try not to engage
in any
> activity that would make my work more public--I haven't
accepted a
> commission for money since I quit doing professional work in
1993, and I
> don't exhibit. It's not that I mind doing these things, or
that I don't
> think they're good to do, but I just like the feeling of
freedom that comes
> with just working for myself and I've been trying to guard
that.
>
> Buh-buh-ba-duh dat's all, Folks!
>
> Adieu,
>
> --Mike
>
>

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Re: Vs: Nikon RF, was: pre-spotmatics, SV, around '64

[Shel Belinkoff]

Except for the new commemorative edition that came out last year.

Raimo Korhonen wrote:

> Apparently the last Nikon rangefinders were the special batch of 2000 units of S3 in 
>black made for the Tokyo Olympics in 1964. Otherwise the Nikon RF production seems to 
>have ended in 1961.

--
Shel Belinkoff
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there are only good photographs.


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RE: color reversal film?

[Lewis, Gerald]

WRONG!

-Original Message-
From: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 3:56 PM
To: Ramesh Kumar_C
Subject: Re: color reversal film?


Hi,

reversal film is negative film, ie it is reversed.

Another name for slide film is transparency film.

Bob

Monday, March 12, 2001, 9:08:52 PM, you wrote:

> Hi
> In the following link there is reference to "color reversal film".

>
https://www.thecamerazone.com/productdetails2.cfm?Product_ID=RAP120

> Could anybody tell what is "color reversal film"?

> Is "reversal film" another name to "Slide film"?

> Thanks
> Ramesh


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New Tamron zoom

[Joseph Tainter]

You might want to consider the old FA Power Zoom 28-105/f4-5.6. It's
heavy (with relatively useless power zoom that you can turn off), but is
also a sharp lens in its class and quite highly regarded. It was
designed for the 1p. This is the standard lens on my 1p. I don't know if
it's still being produced, but a few calls should tell you it any are
available new. If not, try KEH.

I'll be looking closely at reviews to see how the new FA 28-105 and FA
24-90 compare to this old workhorse.

Another fairly good choice (sharper than most consumer 28-105s) is the
Tokina 28-105/f3.5-4.5. It's a solid piece of glass and metal, but is
out of production. Might still be available. Lacks macro capability.

Joe
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Re: Ebay - Buy it Now!

[Steve Scott]

I 'spose since a reserve price not met constitutes a non-auction.  How does it
work on a non-reserve auction (like most of mine)?

Steve S.
http://people.mn.mediaone.net/sscott2

Tiger Moses wrote:

> When did they modifiy the feature, over the weekend.
> First bid used to kill the option, you have buy it now upto when the reserve
> has been met now apparently!
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Re: Carl ·Zeiss·Jena·lenses:·Are·they·"real"·K ·mounts?

[Rob Studdert]

On 12 Mar 2001, at 17:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My thanks to Gabor, Jens, and Evan for clarifying the mount arrangement in
> CZJ lenses. Because of my aversion to dimmed viewfinders, I no longer
> regret that I recently missed picking up a "K-mount" CZJ 20/2.8 for $200 by a
> few hours.

Hi Paul,

My 20f2.8 lenses don't cause a problem with VF brightness for me, for that 
matter neither does the 15f3.5, I use all of them in pretty poor light regularly. 
>From a practical perspective if you are having problems with lenses of f2.8 or 
slower I would suggest that you try some different focus screens (I don't 
recall what bodies that you are using).

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: Ebay bargain

[Otis Wright, Jr.]

Will it be delivered?  That is the question.
Otis Wright
 
 
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David,
K1000 for $10...no I don't think you can lose on this one!  Even
if the lens
doesn't work!
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Re: Minolta restructures - a typical move?

[Rob Studdert]

On 13 Mar 2001, at 0:15, dave o'brien wrote:

> If you look at the press release, they make a big play over the fact
> that you can use 6x7 and 645 lenses on it.  Not news to serious
> pentaxians, but the kind of thing which might grab the attention of
> someone used to a different system.

Hi Dave,

This may in fact be the key, consider how many pro-shooters may use P67 
or P645 but not have any P35mm gear, this is an ideal opportunity to sell the 
Pentax 35mm system to pros. Once you have a digital body that you can 
use on your 645 or 67 lenses I am sure you would buy at least a couple of 
35mm lenses to use with the digital body alone? Then maybe a 35mm film 
camera, then maybe some more 35mm lenses

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: Achiever 630AF flash

[Sid Barras]

Shot wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Today one of my friends offered to sell me a flash - it's Achiever
> 630AF (with added below "for Pentax Z10"). His friend is selling one
> and he was asking if I'm interested. This flash has a GN of 30 and AF
> beam.
>
> Does anybody have any info about this flash?
>
> Is $50 about right price for one?
>

Hi,
I've got one too, and it's a good flash unit. But I got mine on ebay for
$40, I think.

Also, I liked mine so much, I bid on another one, and got it for $45.
When it got to me, it was DOA. I knew the seller, and knew he hadn't
sold me a broken one. Anyway, I got my money back. About 3 months later,
another 630 AF appeared on Ebay. I bid on it and got it. $39 for this
one. And believe it or not, this one got to me dead too! (different
seller). I had a bit of trouble getting my money back on the second one,
but eventually, I had a refund.

These two episodes led me to conclude: Though it's a fine unit, it
apparently has some fragile electronics. Even though my original unit
has not given me any trouble, my experience is enough to give me pause
about having one shipped to me. Perhaps you can get yours without
subjecting it to the rigors of a shipping co. like UPS or USPS.

Good luck. But I do think $50 is just a tiny bit too much.

Sid



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My first Spotmatic... and a question

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Hi everybody,

This afternoon, while heading home, I've been attracted by a "bargain"
Spotmatic SP offered at a very nice price. The camera had some corrosion on
the top and around the mount. It worked fine, though (I couldn't test the
meter - dead battery) and had its original case (in very good shape) and a
Super Takumar 50/1.4. The seller asked me 48 US$ for it. The last two
Spotmatics (F?) I saw around here went for something like 180 US$ (one LINB,
the other had a kind of sticky mirror problem) so I bought the SP on the
spot.
Back home I started to clean the camera and - surprise! - the corrosion was
superficial only. Only between the pentaprism and the speed knob the surface
still looks mat and shows some wear.
Now the SP looks good and I think it has been barely used for a very long time
(it shows no brassing, scratches or dents of any kind). The lens is the
cleanest I've ever seen (now I understand why so many people still loves the
old screwmount Pentax lenses) :)
Now the question: how does the Super-Takumar 50/1.4 compares to the K, KM and
F/FA versions? It's the second version (seven elements in six groups).
Thanks in advance.

Gianfranco

PS. Er, Albano? Please add an SP.


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Carl·Zeiss·Jena·lenses:·Are·they·"real"·K·mounts?

[Paul . Stregevsky]

My thanks to Gabor, Jens, and Evan for clarifying the mount arrangement in
CZJ lenses. Because of my aversion to dimmed viewfinders, I no longer
regret that I recently missed picking up a "K-mount" CZJ 20/2.8 for $200 by
a few hours.

But Gabor also wrote:


Some old teles (2.8/120, 2.8/180) are a bit different, they were
designed for use on 35mm and MF as well, and the mount can be changed
easyly.


Is the 180/2.8, then, a true K mount, with full metering?

PS: Anyone who would like to read collected comments or current sourcces
for the Jena 20/2.8, 25/4, or 180/2.8, write to me. A Swedish dealer (
http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-60531/) currently lists a K-mount CZJ 24/2.8 MC
(multicoated) Macro in grade A for 2000 Swedish kroenig (about $202); the
24/2.8 is described as "extremely rare" on a Practika site (
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/Mall/2536/Lenses.htm).


Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Belated PUG comments

[Juan J. Buhler]

On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, aimcompute wrote:

> " El Rastro, December 2000 " by Juan Buhler
> I love the expressions captured on the faces.  This is not my type of
> photography, but this shot strikes me as very well executed and outstanding.

Thanks very much. 

Also, thanks to the other people who commented on my picture. I have
only been reading the list on and off, and with 1100 messages in my
PDML folder now, I haven't been able to thank you guys properly.

I now need to get some texture/pattern shot for next month...

j


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Re: color reversal film?

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

reversal film is negative film, ie it is reversed.

Another name for slide film is transparency film.

Bob

Monday, March 12, 2001, 9:08:52 PM, you wrote:

> Hi
> In the following link there is reference to "color reversal film".

> https://www.thecamerazone.com/productdetails2.cfm?Product_ID=RAP120

> Could anybody tell what is "color reversal film"?

> Is "reversal film" another name to "Slide film"?

> Thanks
> Ramesh


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Ebay - Buy it Now!

[Tiger Moses]

When did they modifiy the feature, over the weekend.
First bid used to kill the option, you have buy it now upto when the reserve
has been met now apparently!

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RE: color reversal film?

[Jens Bladt]

Yes!
Jens

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Hi
In the following link there is reference to "color reversal film".

https://www.thecamerazone.com/productdetails2.cfm?Product_ID=RAP120

Could anybody tell what is "color reversal film"?

Is "reversal film" another name to "Slide film"?

Thanks
Ramesh
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RE: color reversal film?

[Lewis, Gerald]

In a word...yes

Jerry in Houston

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Hi
In the following link there is reference to "color reversal film".

https://www.thecamerazone.com/productdetails2.cfm?Product_ID=RAP120

Could anybody tell what is "color reversal film"?

Is "reversal film" another name to "Slide film"?

Thanks
Ramesh
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Vs: Nikon RF, was: pre-spotmatics, SV, around '64

[Raimo Korhonen]

Apparently the last Nikon rangefinders were the special batch of 2000 units of S3 in 
black made for the Tokyo Olympics in 1964. Otherwise the Nikon RF production seems to 
have ended in 1961.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

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Aihe: pre-spotmatics, SV, around '64


 Interestingly, Nikon doens't list S3 or any other
>rangefinder. Did they abandon rangefinders before 1964? Canon still has the
>Canon 7 rf.

>Frantisek
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Re: New Tamron zoom

[canislupus]

>Unfortunately the focus direction is wrong way in Pentax and Nikon
>mount. Ralf

I would say the Tamron's got the "right" way focus direction. All my old
lenses (the lenses which made SLR concept - Exakta lenses. Granddads of all
SLR lenses ) turn the way as Tamron (and opposite the way of F 1.4/50).
So I am used to the Tamron's  :o)

Frantisek
(P.S.: I am glad that the "5 posts a day per member" limit is not yet :)

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Re: New Tamron zoom

[canislupus]

*** My reply to Ralf:
Unfortunately, Tamron's SP series is not so good now as it used to be. I
wouldn't rate it "FA* so to say". Normal Tamron zooms are cheapish consumer
zooms, while the SP series has the pro lenses, but similar to other
third-party's pro lenses. I think the * Pentax lenses are all somewhat over
that level :)
To be honest, Tamron made great lenses in the SP series, but they chose to
discontinue most of them, for strange reasons...
All IMHO, of course.

And the SP 24-135 is propably be a big flare-prone lens. At least the
Pentax 24-x has Ghostless coating (or not?). My 35-105/2.8 SP certainly
flares, although not worse than other 2.8 zooms.

Frantisek

*** Ralf wrote:
Here in Germany, the Tamron SP 24-135mm is sold well above $500,
whereas the announced Yen price for the Pentax 24-90mm puts it in the
range of the old FA 28-105mm, means below $500. So the Tamron is more
expensive. The magazine reviews here are very positive. Note that the
SP series is Tamrons high end series (FA* so to say). Unfortunately the
focus direction is wrong way in Pentax and Nikon
mount. Ralf

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RE: Achiever 630AF flash

[Lewis, Gerald]

I have had one for about 3 years, using it on my PZ-70 and PZ-20.  It has
functioned perfectly and I have no complaints.  The tilting and rotating
head is really nice for bounce flash.  I bought mine, NIB, on ebay for about
$85 and I consider it a good buy.  I would expect it to be in excellent
condition for $50 as a used price.

Jerry in Houston

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Hello.

Today one of my friends offered to sell me a flash - it's Achiever 
630AF (with added below "for Pentax Z10"). His friend is selling one 
and he was asking if I'm interested. This flash has a GN of 30 and AF 
beam.

Does anybody have any info about this flash?

Is $50 about right price for one?

Cheers,
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Re: New Tamron zoom

[canislupus]

Nick wrote:
>I am looking for a zoom to replace my old 35-80 and I am casting my eyes
>over the new Tamron 24-135 SP. Has anyone seen any reviews of this lens? I
>am going to use it on my PZ1p. I suspect it will be quite a bit cheaper than
>the Pentax 24-90 and has a more range but I have no idea how the quality
>will stand up.

Nick, in my experience and from what I heard, such super-zooms are
generally not much good. I have Tamron SP 2.8/35-105, and I like it, even
for big prints (well stopped down,of course!), although it has lots of
colour fringing in the corners. The newer, "better" version was SP
2.8/28-105, which by all reviews sucks - even more fringing, etc... Newer
is not always better. I would guess the 24-135 SP be even worse. And for
the price of it, you can propably buy two 2.8 zooms from Tokina (for
example, 28-105/2.8 costs ~40 000 Kc /1000$/ here. A Tokina or Sigma
2.8/28-70 zoom costs from 15 000-20 000 Kc! And both are considered way
better than the 28-105/2.8).

But if you are simply looking for an universal lens to produce 4x6" prints
and not much more, any quality zoom will be be ok. But maybe the new Tamron
is really good, some 24-x zooms are considered to be very good (e.g. the
Nikon's 24-120/3.5-5.6), although I still think a zoom that's 5.6 WIDE OPEN
at long end simply sucks because my zoom is already STOPPED DOWN 2 STOPS at
5.6 - while my zoom's quality at 2.8 maybe sucked, at 5.6 it outperforms
the Nikon anytime (and at f/4 it outperforms it by a full stop :)

Sorry I couldn't help you much with the _actual_ quality of that new
Tamron, but I just wanted to tell you that a 2.8/28-70 from Sigma or Tokina
or an used 2.8/35-105 Tamron might be a lot better, and propably at least
1.5x cheaper. (the SP 2.8/28-105 Tamron started to retail around 800$ in
the US I think). There are still some relatively cheap 24mm primes (e.g.
the Sigma 1.8/24, told to be cheaper by 100$ than the Pentax one), or
~20-35 zooms to complement a 28-70 lens. 

Frantisek

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RE: Re semi-old: K1000 light meter issues.

[Peifer, William [OCDUS]]

Brent wrote:
>The exact same situation occurs if the ISO is 100 and the shutter
>is set to "B". It does not however occur at a "B" when the ISO is
>50...but it does if the dial is set to the blank space between "B"and
>1/1000 sec.

Hi Brent,

The combination of ASA 100 film speed setting and B shutter setting is
actually the battery test position.  At this setting, the meter is supposed
to peg full-scale positive if your battery is good.

Hope this helps.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY

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Re: What do you shoot, and why?

[Harry Baughman]

i wondered if someone would say something about that wording. i am sure
everyone knew what i was talking about.




"Gary L. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:47:35 -0500 (EST), Harry Baughman wrote:
>
>> i like to shoot people. 
>
>I thought that was illegal in most places... :-)))

He must be one of those guys from Texas :-)
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color reversal film?

[Ramesh Kumar_C]

Hi
In the following link there is reference to "color reversal film".

https://www.thecamerazone.com/productdetails2.cfm?Product_ID=RAP120

Could anybody tell what is "color reversal film"?

Is "reversal film" another name to "Slide film"?

Thanks
Ramesh
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Re: Bodies Roll Call UPDATE 68

[Aaron Reynolds]

"Juan J. Buhler" wrote:

> MWAH HA HA...
> 
> All your LX are belong to us!

*snicker* http://www.geocities.com/driseog/ayb.html

-Aaron
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Achiever 630AF flash

[Shot]

Hello.

Today one of my friends offered to sell me a flash - it's Achiever 
630AF (with added below "for Pentax Z10"). His friend is selling one 
and he was asking if I'm interested. This flash has a GN of 30 and AF 
beam.

Does anybody have any info about this flash?

Is $50 about right price for one?

Cheers,
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Re: Which one?

[Steve Scott]

Many years ago I purchased a Tamron (I believe) 500 mirror for my M series bodies and 
K-1000.  There was noticable loss of sharpess but contrast really took the big hit.  
It eventually was stolen from my car while
on a trip (along with a Vivitar 283 flash and SMC-M 135/3.5 lens).  I replaced the 
flash and the 135 but not the mirror lens.

I don't think the mirrors can compare image-wise to the optical tele's but the optical 
lens can't compare to the mirror in price.  If you need a long lens at an affordable 
price, by all means try one.

I've got one shot with the 500 mirror on my web site:

http://people.mn.mediaone.net/sscott2/Text_Files/bottle.htm

Regards,
Steve S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello folk, new guy again.
>
> I am considering a 500mm tele addition to my modest stable. I have two alternatives 
>presently, one is a Tamron f8 mirror tele and the other is an Pentax f8 optical tele. 
>What advice have you for a rank amateur?
>
> BTW, Many thanks to all who responded on the zoom lens query! I went with the Tamron 
>100-300 Macro. Nice save, gentlemen!!!
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I hold a sample of the MZ-S !!!

[Pentax Clover]

Hello 
I hold last thursday a sample of the MZ-S!!!
It is very special event but its price gives a bad taste of it
See you

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Re: New Tamron zoom

[Alexander Krohe]

Nick Snowdon wrote: 
I am looking for a zoom to replace my old 35-80 and I
am casting my eyes over the new Tamron 24-135 SP. Has
anyone seen any reviews of this lens? I am going to
use it on my PZ1p. I suspect it will be quite a bit
cheaper than the Pentax 24-90 and has a more range but
I have no idea how the quality will stand up.


Referring to EU-prices, www.internet-foto.de  lists
both lenses: There, the price of the Tamron 24-135
SP/3.5-5.6 is DM 1.141,00 and of the SMCP-FA
24-90/3.5-4.5 is DM 1.191,00. This translates into
something like EUR/USD 540 and 565 respectively.
Have fun!
Alexander 










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OT: PreBay Stuff

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Some goodies I picked up today that'll go cheap here.
I'll pay US shipping on these items.

Collin

#1.  Case $25
 Metal construction and good foam inside.
http://www.integrityonline21.com/dpconsult/ebay/case.jpg
http://www.integrityonline21.com/dpconsult/ebay/caseb.jpg

#2  50mm Filter Set  $20 for all
 Hoya Polarizer
 Vivitar Orange O2
 Vivitar Yellow K2
 Vivitar Soft II
 Vivitar Cross Screen IV
http://www.integrityonline21.com/dpconsult/ebay/filters.jpg

#3 Kodak Master Photoguide$4
 All sorts of great technical data

Other

#4 Canon FS body and rear lens caps $3

#5 Canon Manuals  $3
Speedlite 155A  &  Power Winder A

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executive and judiciary in the same hands . . .
may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."

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Re: relaxer for film?

[Dan Scott]

>Dan,
>
>I heard that if you pee on it, it will straighten right out.  Wouldn't hurt
>to try.  It supposed to cure athlete's foot and keep the pests of off roses.
>:-)
>
>Tom C.

Thanks Tom. I'll let the volunteer PUG critics handle that.

(FWIW, it's extremely efficacious on cats.)

Dan Scott
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Re: What do you shoot, and why?

[Shel Belinkoff]

People ... I love working with all sorts of people in many types of
environments. Kids are great, especially when I can capture the
relationship between kids and their parents.  I love catching a hug
or a kiss, a touch or a glance, or some other indication of
closeness and the love and bond between parent and child.

I like working with street people - shooting the street is an
exhilarating experience, and sometime challenging in that it's often
difficult to get close to people who don't want to be observed or
have an intrusion in their lives.

The idea of documenting the relationship of people to what's
happening in their lives, the joys and the sadness, loneliness and
camaraderie, silliness and seriousness, has always interested me,
and going back through old negatives and prints it seems that my
best work has been with people.  People and Pentax - a winning
combination!

"For me, the creation of a photograph is experienced as a heightened
emotional
response, most akin to poetry and music, each image the culmination
of a compelling impulse I cannot deny." --- Ruth Bernhard 
 
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Vs: Carl Zeiss Jena lenses: Are they "real" K mounts?

[Raimo Korhonen]

The 2.8/180 mm is the original & legendary Olympia Sonnar of 1936 designed for the 
Contax II rangefinder.
All the best!
Raimo
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>Hi, 
>
The 2.8/180 Sonnar is a huge beast, designed 
>for Pentacon Six, with good picture quality.




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Re: Don't be such an ass

[aimcompute]

Yeh, I realize I'm probably wrong now (Head hung ashamed) and that Tom R.
was being funny.  Where I came from an A was anything between 90 - 100.  If
the teacher was particularly impressed by some ungradeable aspect of the
paper you got an A+.  It's likely the original  poster was not rating things
by the technical ratings though, probably just trying to get across it was
in very very good shape.



Tom C.

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>
>
> aimcompute wrote:
>
> > It's like receiving an A+ from a teacher in school.  The highest grade
one
> > can receive is an, the + is used for emphasis.
>
> Uh, not to be sarcastic, but where I come from, an A denotes 80 to 89
> percent while an A+ is for 90 to 100%.  Mint+ is like saying that mint
> can be less than perfect, therefore there is a grade above it.
>
> -Aaron
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Re: relaxer for film?

[aimcompute]

Dan wrote:

> >
> > I dropped a roll of print film off at a new lab for processing and
> > sleeving, and, instead of sleeving, they rolled the film and put it into
> > the canister the film cartridge was in. I've cut it into 5 frame strips,
> > but I'm having a heck of a time trying to uncurl the strips so I can
scan
> > them.
> >
> > If I soak the strips in water, will they straighten out? If not, do you
> > have any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan Scott
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dan,

I heard that if you pee on it, it will straighten right out.  Wouldn't hurt
to try.  It supposed to cure athlete's foot and keep the pests of off roses.
:-)

Tom C.


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Re[2]: Ghostless coating: which lenses have it?

[Takehiko Ueda]

Hi Boz,

I confirmed it with Pentax Lenses catalogue as of June 2000.
It says "Two aspherical lenses, glass mold and hybrid, are
adopted. Various technologies such as floating zoom and
GHOSTLESS COATING enable this lens to perform very well at
all focal length and perspective."

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/

> Hi,
> 
> Recently Alin Flaider wrote:
> > 
> >It was mentioned on the FA 35/2 press release and
> possibly for the > FA 20-45/4 too. For sure ghostless
> coatings is associated with the new > 24-90/3.5-4.5.
> 
> It was also mentioned in the press release of the
> 28-105/3,2-4,5.  Can anyone confirm for the 20-35/4?
> 
> Thanks,
> Boz
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Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

[Jan van Wijk]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:59:37 +1300, David A. Mann wrote:

>> The digital SLR (MZ-D ?) will heve a 24x36 mm sensor, equal in size to
>> the 35mm system FILM camera's.
>
> I am fully aware of that.  I was aiming my post at the "other" brands who use 
>those puny little APS-size sensors (are we allowed to be snobbish yet?:)
>

Yup, reading back in the thread, I can see that now ...

>> Theoretically this would be 43mm (do I hear black limitted ? :-) and any of the
>> existing 50mm lenses will do just fine ...
>

BTW: For the Nikon D1 and Canon D30, the theoretical "standard" lens would
be around 28mm. So 35mm is already on the long side!
(They have multiplication factors of 1.5 to 1.6)

> Darn, now I have to buy a black Limited for the Z-1p and a silver one for the 
>K2.

Feel enabled :-)

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Re: FA 50mm f/1.4

[dosk]

Yes. Although the DOF, [the part of the picture available just in front of,
or just behind, the focused upon subject] is greatly limited as far as what
one can include in a close-up f1.4 shot.
But this is true with every fast, wide open lens...
And at least the FA 50/1.4 focuses sharp as a tack [at every aperture, tho
some better than others, naturally] on whatever subject matter is included.
And can do so w/o flash, and in very dim light!
I have it, and it always goes wherever my SLR goes...
A must for outdoor night scenes, and interiors in available light!
A fantastic lens!
Skip

Subject: FA 50mm f/1.4


> Hi,
>
> I've read many good comments about this lens. Does it
> perform well in the entire range of aperture settings,
> particular wide open at f/1.4?
>
> Thanks,
> Kelvin
>
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Re: Minolta restructures - a typical move?

[dave o'brien]

A scroll of mail from Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:57:55 -0500
Read it? y
>I don't know how well it will sell, but what list members are
>missing is this camera won't be competing with 3 mega-pixel
>amateur cameras but with cameras that are now selling for about
>$25,000us.  So they will be a bargain in that category.  I do
>understand that Canon and Nikon are about to release cameras in
>the category, but they will be in the same price range. 
>Heretofore only Kodak has had a full frame CCD.  The MZ-Digital
>will be very competitive.
>--Tom

Yep, it will be very competitive in a tiny market for a short period.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking it.  I think it's a terrific
attention grabber for the Pentax system as a whole, but I don't think
it'll sell in any kind of useful quantities.  Probably not any more
than the others do.

If you look at the press release, they make a big play over the fact
that you can use 6x7 and 645 lenses on it.  Not news to serious
pentaxians, but the kind of thing which might grab the attention of
someone used to a different system.

I think Pentax are using it to reinforce their hi-tech, precision
instrument image.  Unfortunately, they only seem to have this image in
Japan.

The digital market is changing so fast that any of the new crop of
megapixel cameras will be out of date within a year or two anyway.
It's those companies which will allow you to upgrade your body and
keep your lens system who'll survive.

dave
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Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye

[dave o'brien]

A scroll of mail from Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 12
Mar 2001 12:25:08 +0100
Read it? y
>I wrote:
>
>> A company that doesn't reply to e-mails is certainly suspect. 
>
>
>Well, they finally replied today after three weeks. So they don't seem that suspect 
>after all.

An online company that takes three weeks to reply is dubious as all
hell.  Especially if they're handling your money.

dave
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Re: FA 50mm f/1.4

[Kelvin Ang]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. You mention that it displays a
softening effect around the _local edges_. Can you
explain what you mean by local edges? And, how does
local contrast differ from overall contrast? I'm quite
new to photography but I'm eager to learn more.

Thanks again,
Kelvin

--- Alin Flaider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>   Kelvin, it's excellent starting with 2.8, when
> there's no more light
> fall-off and the resolution easily allows for 30x40
> cm blow-ups.
>   Wide-open it displays a softening effect around
> the local edges that
> reduces the local contrast and diminishes the
> apparent resolution, but
> it doesn't affect the overall contrast. It also
> shows excellent flare
> control even when wide open.
>   In my view it does a splendid job when shooting
> stage performances
> both with low contrast lighting when it still
> resolves very well the
> details, and with harsh lights that would flare
> badly with anything
> else but smc glass.



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Re: Ghostless coating: which lenses have it?

[Bojidar Dimitrov]

Hi,

Recently Alin Flaider wrote:
> 
>It was mentioned on the FA 35/2 press release and possibly for the
> FA 20-45/4 too. For sure ghostless coatings is associated with the new
> 24-90/3.5-4.5.

It was also mentioned in the press release of the 28-105/3,2-4,5.  Can
anyone confirm for the 20-35/4?

Thanks,
Boz

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Re: OT: the Kodak disc camera, was Re: Help! My kids stole myPentax (teaching kids photography)

[Steve Scott]

>> Those Kodak instant print cameras are really valuable.  Remember
them?
>> After Polaroid won their patent case, those Kodak gems really became
>> collectable.  I've seen a few at thrift stores.  No one wants them
-yet!
>> Jim A.

Really?  I was just looking at my wife's old Kodak.  She lost out on the
opportunity to sell it back to Kodak for the settlement price of $50 so
it's been sitting on our shelf for 15 years.  Still has a pack of film
for it!!!  And the original box.  Or like, in 1982, when a guy offered
to buy my Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 1 with Level 2 basic and 16kb RAM for
$500.  I wound letting it go for $50 in 1987 just to get rid of it.

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Re: Accessory hose for sale!

[Johan Schoone]

X - A scroll of news from 
Mark Roberts  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Read it? [yn] y
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1220636208
>
>Damned if *I* know what it is... ;)

It is a bit short to connect a pneumatic tool to an air compressor.

ObPhoto: Check out
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Re: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4

[Mark Stringer]

I own both and like both.  When I bought a camera for my daughter I gave her
the 28-70 because my instincts (and photos) indicated that I had more
confidence in the 28-105.  However, the28-105 is heavier, larger and I
have recently bought another 28-70.  I like the 28-70 on my ZX5n w/o battery
pack, a very light combo for family shooting or walking around. However,  I
also am gravitating back to primes for speed and quality.
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From: "adrian sorescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:48 AM
Subject: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4


> Hi gang,
>
> There is a powerzoom 28-105 lens around here in a second hand store .
> 2 months and nobody buyed it !! :(((
>
> I'm pleased about my 28-70/4...but... powerzoom(& my Z-1p) and positive
comments on
> the list about "best consumer grade 28-105"
>
> I need feedback from ppl who used both lenses
>
> I'll do some tests this weekend.
>
> thanks in advance,
> adrian sorescu
>
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Re: Price of F* 300/4.5 ?

[Mark Stringer]

I bought mine about a year ago for $565.  It is the most exciting thing I
have done in 35mm photography.  Imagine a 300mm lens that gives results like
shooting with a 50mm lens. I almost wept on seeing the first pictures I
took.  I couldn't believe the sharpness. I will always have a Pentax camera
and this lens. I want more lens like this.  I could give up 6x7 if I had a
bag of lens that took pictures this good.  BTW, I use the tripod collar a
lot (i.e. remote taking pictures of hummingbirds at a feeder. How else would
you do this?)
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 5:39 AM
Subject: Price of F* 300/4.5 ?


> What is the best price you've seen for a mint used
> SMC F* 300/4.5 ?
>
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Re: What do you shoot, and why?

[William Wiseman]

>"Gary L. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:47:35 -0500 (EST), Harry Baughman wrote:
> >
> >> i like to shoot people.
> >
> >I thought that was illegal in most places... :-)))
>
>He must be one of those guys from Texas :-)
>-
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Re: A* 200/2.8: exact name

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Boz ..

It reads: SMC PENTAX-A* 1:2.8 200mm ED

Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:

> I need to know the exact name that appears on the barrel of the A* 200/2.8
> ED lens.

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OT FW:50 sheets of high-gloss inkjet photo paper for $12

[Delano Mireles]

Hope nobody minds the post.  Just thought that some may find this helpful
since it seems there are a few people on the list who are using inkjet
printers to make prints.



==

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among the cheapest letter-size, inkjet photo papers that we
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Re: Accessory hose for sale!

[Doug Brewer]

Looks like coax cable to me.

Doug



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> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item20636208
>
> Damned if *I* know what it is... ;)


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