Re: More Limited products from Pentax

2001-10-04 Thread David A. Mann

Aaron Reynolds writes:

  Still waiting to stumble on that irresistible-bargain LX,
 
 Take heart, I am living proof that they're out there.  (Found one for
 $400 CDN.)

 A guy at work owns two LX bodies and has told me he's getting interested in 
going digital.  Now I've got an ethical dilemma: keep him away from the dark 
side (or is that dark slide), or give his LXen a good home :)

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: medium format scanners

2001-10-04 Thread David A. Mann

Tiger Moses writes:

 What are youusing to scan negatives/slides of 120 film?  and what is the
 resolution of that equipment?

 I'm using an Agfa Arcus 1200.  It will scan anything transparent up to 8x10 
(up to 4x5 without glass plates), and printed material can go a little bigger (yes, 
it is quite a large scanner).

 Its rated at 1200x2400dpi (2400x2400 interpolated).

 Do you recommend someone buy the same thing?

 If cost is a limiting factor, yes.  Mine was only NZ$1800, which is well under 
$1000USD but I did have to purchase a SCSI card separately which cost me 
about NZ$40 from memory.

 Its great for scanning to the desktop (I run at 1280x1024) or the web.  I would 
prefer better sharpness and a little more resolution (particularly for 35mm) but 
its software driver is excellent, and it comes with Photoshop LE.  In fact, the 
software is so good (once you've set it up right) that I haven't even looked at 
Vuescan.  It also came with some colour management software that I haven't 
used except for the odd print I've tried.

 Also the Dmax is a bit low (but probably a more honest figure than other 
vendors) so dark areas can pick up a little noise.  This hasn't hugely bothered 
me yet.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Scanning Kodachrome

2001-10-04 Thread Mark Dalal

Hey Folks,

Well, I'm adding the elusive A 100/2.8 Macro the lens bag and was wanting to
see what the results are with some of the ulta-slow high resolutions films.
I've got a few rolls of APX 25 but I would like to try a couple rolls of the
Kodachrome 25. I've heard that there can be problems scanning this film and
was wondering what that's all about. Anyone have some definitive info on
this?

Thanks,

Mark
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OT: a picture

2001-10-04 Thread Timo Hartikainen

Hi,

autumn leaves
http://pp.hok.fi/hartikainen/lehdet.htm

KX, M 50/1.7 @ f4, Fuji 400 Superia.

(the background is a basketball field painted on the ground..)

Timo


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Re: Flash recommendations for LX please

2001-10-04 Thread MPozzi

What is your experience with the LX and Metz 40MZ3i in
terms of results?
I find it difficult to get well balanced shots with
this combination (tends to overexpose).
I have been shooting it on x synchro  at f4. For the
type of shots I do, I need to automise it as much as
possible...
thanks
M

 
--- Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The good old Pentax AF280T should do. I believe it
 is still available brand 
 new. I have the Metz 40MZ3i which is an excellent
 flash, but doesn't balance 
 well on traditional manual focus bodies which is
 rather small in comparsion. 
 I use it mainly on Z-1p.
 
 regards,
 Alan Chan
 
 I'm sure this one has been turned over many times
 before, but if you
 could please bear with me...
 
 Any recommendations for a flash unit for the Pentax
 LX?
 
 I hate using flash, and never do for 'my' pics. But
 more and more I'm
 asked to do portraits and on a sunny day I can't be
 bothered arsing about
 with reflectors. I could do with a little fill-in
 flash. What would work
 with my LX? Remember - it has to be easy for my
 addled brain to figure
 out...
 
 I know about redeye, but it has to be hotshoe
 mounted, and maybe even the
 option of an external battery. Bounce head
 essential, but I could live
 without swivel. Pentax brand considered first, but
 what about Metz and
 other makes as well?
 
 A few pointers here would be greatly appreciated
 from one who considers
 natural light the best way, but when someone's
 paying for a result, needs
 must...
 
 Cheers!
 
 Cotty
 
 

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Re: OT: any Mac OS X users using Mail.app for PDML?

2001-10-04 Thread Kristian Walsh

Hi,

I've been using it for a while. The only thing I can say is that the 
filtering sucks. You can just about get it to move stuff around, 
(Preferences, Rules) based on sender, but it's a lot less sophisticated 
than Eudora (which I think has the best filtering around) or 
Outlook/Entourage.

Avoid AddressBook like the foetid carbuncle it is. Also Dock gets very 
annoying very quickly - have a look at DragThing for X 
(www.dragthing.com) which is far far more useful, and I'm not just 
saying that because I know the author ;-)

And finally, to drag this kicking and screaming back on-topic, my 43mm 
1.9 arrived yesterday evening ;-). By then it was too dark to go 
shooting, but today is a different matter ;-)
--
Kristian


On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 05:12 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:

 I'm installing OS X on the iBook here, and I was just wondering if
 anyone had used the bundled mail.app for PDML...anyone know of any
 issues I should be aware of?

 Thanks ahead,

 -Aaron
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Re: New Toys

2001-10-04 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 03/10/01 21:00:19 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello Peter,
 
 What is your price on the 100mm F2.8 M, 35mm F2.8M and 50mm F1.4A
 
 James
 Richmond  BC Canada 

James- they are all listed on the used site.

Please mail us off-list.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: Film/paper combo question

2001-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Guys ...

I've been using ID-11 almost exclusively for a few months, and it is a
little hotter than D-76.  IOW, some charts will suggest that ID-11
and D-76 be used for the same amount of time for a given emulsion.  In
that scenario ID-11 seems to give me slightly overdeveloped negs - not
by a lot, but enough to make printing highlights a PITA some times. 
I've knocked a minute off ID-11 times in some situations in order to
get better quality negs.  Pay careful attention to the contrast range
in whatever scene you're shooting.  

As Mr. Wheatfield suggests, always test your film/developer/exposure
combinations.  Don't take anything you read here, or anywhere else, no
matter how authoritative the source may be, as correct.  There are
just too many variables in BW processing.

William Robb wrote:

 In theory, ID-11 and D-76 are interchangable. In practice, they
 are slightly different in activity. I don't remember which is
 the faster developer. I don't think it makes a heck of a lot of
 the difference if you use one or the other, as long as you test
 in the combination.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Re: PUG Commentary for Richard Seaman

2001-10-04 Thread jbrooks

We have even been briefed on what to do if our MD gets kidnapped by 
terrorists! But we're not paranoid, oh no.   :)
Jim 


Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:39:52 -0400
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PUG Commentary for Richard Seaman 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 This is Jim Brooks, now with a new email account. Zetex PLC were deleting
 email with suspicious content (including many of the PDML digests)

 From that disclaimer tacked onto the bottoms of your mails, they seemed
a little paranoid. :) 

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RE: a picture

2001-10-04 Thread Ed

Wonderful use of color, Timo.

Thanks,
Ed
http://lightandsilver.com 

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 Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: a picture
 
 
 Hi,
 
 autumn leaves
 http://pp.hok.fi/hartikainen/lehdet.htm
 
 KX, M 50/1.7 @ f4, Fuji 400 Superia.
 
 (the background is a basketball field painted on the ground..)
 
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Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.

2001-10-04 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Actually, your right eye does not have that good a lens, but it is connected
to a very high power computer that does a lot of post processing rather
transparently. At the rate computers are improving we should be able to
manufacture an equivalent one in about a hundred years or so.


- Original Message -
From: Mark Dalal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.



 While this post is made in jest, it brings up something I've been thinking
 about. When asked to list a favorite lens, my gut reaction is to say my
 right eye.
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Photo CDs

2001-10-04 Thread Richard Klein

I tried getting a roll of film developed straight to a CD for the first time
yesterday.  I forget the brand name, but it wasn't a Kodak PhotoCD.  The
files on the CD were .jpg images, approximately 1480x1035, 24-bit color.  I
was a bit disappointed because that resolution doesn't allow for much
zooming and cropping before you run into blatant pixellation.  Is this the
same for all photo CDs, or could I do better going with another lab?

   -Rich
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Re: The 5n could be the best if ...

2001-10-04 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Hey, I didn't know it was Friday. grin
-graywolf
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Re: Photo CDs

2001-10-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Richard Klein
Subject: Photo CDs


 I tried getting a roll of film developed straight to a CD for
the first time
 yesterday.  I forget the brand name, but it wasn't a Kodak
PhotoCD.  The
 files on the CD were .jpg images, approximately 1480x1035,
24-bit color.  I
 was a bit disappointed because that resolution doesn't allow
for much
 zooming and cropping before you run into blatant pixellation.
Is this the
 same for all photo CDs, or could I do better going with
another lab?

That is called a Picture CD. We make em at Wal-Mart for about 10
bucks. IMHO, they are a really cheap and cheerful product. They
are scanned from the print, not the negative, so the quality is
dependant on print quality (I would lay odds they made a set of
prints from your negatives).
Funny thing, we paid 10 grand (Canadian) for the equipment. I
figure I could have bought the stuff retail for about 2000.00.
William Robb
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Re: More Limited products from Pentax

2001-10-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: David A. Mann
Subject: Re: More Limited products from Pentax




  A guy at work owns two LX bodies and has told me he's getting
interested in
 going digital.  Now I've got an ethical dilemma: keep him away
from the dark
 side (or is that dark slide), or give his LXen a good home :)

Tell him the LX is outdated, high maintenance equipment.
Re-inforce his decision to go digital, while at the same time,
undermine his confidence in the LXen. By the time you are done,
if you do it smart, you should be able to get the LX for just
about nothing.
Good luck
William Robb
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Re: Scanning Kodachrome

2001-10-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Mark Dalal
Subject: Scanning Kodachrome


 Hey Folks,

 Well, I'm adding the elusive A 100/2.8 Macro the lens bag and
was wanting to
 see what the results are with some of the ulta-slow high
resolutions films.
 I've got a few rolls of APX 25 but I would like to try a
couple rolls of the
 Kodachrome 25. I've heard that there can be problems scanning
this film and
 was wondering what that's all about. Anyone have some
definitive info on
 this?

You need a scanner with a fairly long dynamic range. My 30 bit
HP is very prone to banding with Kodachrome. My friends 48 bit
LEAF handles it very nicely. Kodachrome has a very high D-Max, I
think still the highest of any slide film.
Congratulations on the A 100mm macro. It is one of the better
lenses out there, nearly as good as the FA 77mm, but with much
closer focusing. Even the bokeh is pretty good.

William Robb
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Items for sale

2001-10-04 Thread Kent Gittings

I'm back on the list again. However I need to liquidate most of my Pentax AF
gear. Here is a short list:
ZX-5n Mint  original owner
Battery Grip FgMint original owner
AF500FTZ Flash  Mintoriginal owner
AF240FT Flash Mint  used (Ebay)
flash adapter Fg  Mint  original owner
Flash cable   Mint  original owner  one that goes from above flash to the
shoe adapter, short

Pentax SMC-F 50/1.7 Ex  used (camera store)
Tamron 28-200/3.8-5.6 LD Super  Mintoriginal owner
Tamron 28-105/4-5.6 LD  Mintused (Ebay)
Tamron 70-300/4.5-5.6 LDEx  used (Ebay) Rebadged Promaster
Sigma 1.4x TC   Ex  Used (Ebay)

I'm keeping all my manual stuff for use with my Super A MD setup. Also
haven't decided to sell my Pentax 1.7x AF TC yet either.
And don't think I'm entirely playing favorites as I've got some pro lenses
for my Maxxum 9 that I've replaced going on sale also. Have to pin some
people down on the Minolta users group list or they will be going on Ebay
later also.
Whoever buys the ZX-5n gets a repairable ZX-10 also for a small added charge
(optional second Battery Grip Fg available). Was my wife's camera and she
has something else now.
Kent Gittings



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Re: Photo CDs

2001-10-04 Thread David J Brooks

Richard.
I'm going to try this next weekend with a roll or
two i plan to take at our awards dinner for the horse
year.I'll let you know how successful my lab does it.
He has the Fuji system(version excapes me at the moment)

Dave

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From: Richard Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:42:46 -0400 
To: Pentax Discussion Mailing List (E-mail) pentax-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Photo CDs


I tried getting a roll of film developed straight to a CD for the 
first time
yesterday.  I forget the brand name, but it wasn't a Kodak 
PhotoCD.  The
files on the CD were .jpg images, approximately 1480x1035, 24-bit 
color.  I
was a bit disappointed because that resolution doesn't allow for much
zooming and cropping before you run into blatant pixellation.  Is 
this the
same for all photo CDs, or could I do better going with another lab?

   -Rich
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RE: More Limited products from Pentax

2001-10-04 Thread Kent Gittings

The joke goes:
There are 2 kinds of people. Those that divide people into 2 groups and
those in the other group.
Kent Gittings

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clive Williams
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:25 PM
To: Pentax Discuss
Subject: RE: More Limited products from Pentax


This could turn into one of those dangerous games that begin There are
two kinds of people...  (Those that categorize people into two types,
and ...? grin)

I can certainly see myself in what Mick describes in (i), though, with
the perhaps the proviso that reading the extraordinary depth and breadth
of knowledge on this list can turn one into more of a connoisseur than
one intended.  I just wish I'd discovered it before I embarked on
parenthood-induced penury, although I got here just in time - can you
imagine how I'd feel if I'd seen my son's first smile through a Tokina??

Still waiting to stumble on that irresistible-bargain LX,

Clive.

P.S. And of course, if that Limited 22mm ever comes along...

Mick wrote:
I think there are many more divisions that that, I would chance at
another
  two:

  i) Those who would like to be connoisseur cant afford to be, so
are very
  selective in what and if they buy, sometimes accepting non top
notch on a
  cost benefit basis, but always wanting the best.

  ii) Those who just must have the latest and rarest because of
that, not
  necessarily because it's the best.
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Agfa Snapscan

2001-10-04 Thread David J Brooks

Just wondering if anyone has experience with the
Snapscan e20 or e25.They are on sale for under $100.00 Can
and i'm looking for a scanner,mostly for web stuff.

Thanks 

Dave


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FS: Pentax-A* 135/1.8

2001-10-04 Thread Pål Jensen

I'm still reluctantly considering selling my A* 135/1.8. It comes with original lens 
hood and leather hard case. I need to finance a new FA645 300/5.6 and the 645nII and I 
never use my 135/1.8 although I would love to stick to it. 
I plan to take the e-bay route but if I receive a good offer I might sell it to a PDML 
participant.

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Experience with the Pentax A645 1,4X converter

2001-10-04 Thread Pål Jensen

Has anyone experience how well the A 1,4X converter for the 645 system works? 
Particularly with the FA645 120/4 Macro and the FA645 300/5.6 lenses.

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Re: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 28

2001-10-04 Thread Anthony Farr

- Original Message -
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(snip)
 ... and even the
 best orange mask removal can cause colour aliasing artifacts and/or
 a slight colour cast at the extreme ends of the intensity range.


John,

Could you describe colour aliasing.  I can't find the term in the
literature I have.  I know that aliasing is about how the transition
between adjacent contrasting areas of an image is managed.  I can't
understand how the concept relates to the way that the colours of an
image are managed.  Of course the two concepts may be completely
separate and the common word is a red-herring.

Regards,
Anthony Farr
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Re: A645 35/3.5 and Cokin filter system

2001-10-04 Thread tom

Pål Jensen wrote:
 
 Is there any problem using the Cokin filter system with this lens? Will it cause 
vignetting?

No, I haven't noticed any.

tv
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Re: Film/paper combo question

2001-10-04 Thread John A. Hufnagel

Ok... You all gotta stop this talk!  I'm getting the shakes waiting for
the $$$ to build my darkroom from all this film/paper talk.  =)

I'm really looking forward to trying different dilutions and times for
processing film and paper.  Are there any general rules that apply to
this, relating dilution and time to contrast and density?  Or am I just
in for a long and glorious set of weeks holed up in my hole
experimenting? =P

For the record, my last BW work was done using D-76 on Plus-X and
Tri-X(usually full strength) and Dektol (full strength) with Kodak BW
paper (I don't remember the name of it though... It's been 7 years since
I last developed a picture!)

I loved Plus-X/Tri-X (god.. I could push that film to 6400 and get some
killer pictures out of it... The grain structure was awesome.)  and I
HATED the TMAX films... Horrific grain IMHO.

Enough rambling... Time to make some money to buy all this stuff.

-- John
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Re: Singing the praises of the 645n

2001-10-04 Thread tom

Trevor Wiebe wrote:
 
 The A version.

Which is the f/3.5 version. Does anyone on the list own the 150/2.8? I
got to handle one a bit and take a few shots, but not really enough to
judge it's performance.

I was quite pleased with how light and compact it is. It's significantly
smaller then the 120/4.

tv
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Re: Film/paper combo question

2001-10-04 Thread tom

John A. Hufnagel wrote:
 
 I'm really looking forward to trying different dilutions and times for
 processing film and paper.  Are there any general rules that apply to
 this, relating dilution and time to contrast and density? 

Yeah. Higher developer concentration and/or longer dev times = higher
contrast. Density or shadow detail is mostly determined by exposure.
Developer dilution also has grain and accutance effects.

The correct contrast for your negs will be determined by your
equipment, materials and taste.

Buy The Film Developing Cookbook by Anchell and Troop, which explains
all this and more.
 
  Or am I just
 in for a long and glorious set of weeks holed up in my hole
 experimenting? =P


Weeks? Try months or years, but try to get over it. Time and thought
dedicated to thinking about and trying Paper X and Developer Y might be
better spent figuring out how to take better pictures, not to mention
actually taking them. Last year, when I thought of photography, I
thought of film and chemicals. This year I think about subjects and
places.

Well, I think about nice lenses too.

I spent a year trying things. I'm ok now. ;)
 
 For the record, my last BW work was done using D-76 on Plus-X and
 Tri-X(usually full strength) and Dektol (full strength) with Kodak BW

Full strength Dektol? Wow. Usually it's used 1:2.

Ultra Black is nice too, though inventory has been sketchy around here,
so I usually just stick to Dektol unless I know the print is going on a
wall. I use XTOL 1:1 and DD-X with D100, D400, Tri-X and TMZ. This after
experimenting with everything out there...

Have fun!

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Re: Photo CDs

2001-10-04 Thread Anand DHUPKAR

that's true.  i too had some my films done on photo CD by kodak and was 
really not happy with the pictures.  not only resolution, even the colours 
too were not that good.  normally those have a bit of red in them.  so, 
finally i went in for scanner - HP S20 - relatively cheap and versatile 
enough.


From: Richard Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discussion Mailing List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Photo CDs
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:42:46 -0400

I tried getting a roll of film developed straight to a CD for the first 
time
yesterday.  I forget the brand name, but it wasn't a Kodak PhotoCD.  The
files on the CD were .jpg images, approximately 1480x1035, 24-bit color.  I
was a bit disappointed because that resolution doesn't allow for much
zooming and cropping before you run into blatant pixellation.  Is this the
same for all photo CDs, or could I do better going with another lab?

-Rich
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FS: LX (early model) body only no prism.

2001-10-04 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Hi everybody,

It's sad to part from an LX but this one has to go.
This is an early model, the one without the meter activation by
the prism release button. It works fine, the metering is really
good and it is not affected by sticky mirror disease. It comes
with the SC-21 screen. Cosmetically it's nice except for a
superficial loss of paint near the mount, where the X and FP
signs are engraved.
It has a problem, though. The focusing is good when you focus
using the center part of the screen, but it's slightly off when
focusing is done using the upper or the lower part of the frame.
If you are used to focus with the focusing aids and then
recompose the frame, you will never experience any problem. It
can surely be fixed, but I have no time to care about it.
I'm NOT going to sell it through eBay.
If I do not receive a fair offer I'll probably trade it for
something else at the local shop, but I'd prefer to find it a
good new home.

Please contact me off list if interested.

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Re: Photo CDs

2001-10-04 Thread Chris Brogden

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Richard Klein wrote:

 I tried getting a roll of film developed straight to a CD for the
 first time yesterday.  I forget the brand name, but it wasn't a Kodak
 PhotoCD.  The files on the CD were .jpg images, approximately
 1480x1035, 24-bit color.  I was a bit disappointed because that
 resolution doesn't allow for much zooming and cropping before you run
 into blatant pixellation.  Is this the same for all photo CDs, or
 could I do better going with another lab?

Both PictureCD and the PhotoNet CD scan to 1536x1024.  You can request a
high-res PhotoNet CD at 2000x3000, and this has much better quality.  Or
your lab may have a specialized high-res scan option for more money.

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Re: OT: a picture

2001-10-04 Thread Anand DHUPKAR

Too good colours.
I loved the picture.
Congratulations.


From: Timo Hartikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: a picture
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 10:20:04 +0300

Hi,

autumn leaves
http://pp.hok.fi/hartikainen/lehdet.htm

KX, M 50/1.7 @ f4, Fuji 400 Superia.

(the background is a basketball field painted on the ground..)

Timo


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RE: Photo CDs

2001-10-04 Thread Richard Klein

Oh yeah, they made prints.  I took the prints because they were making them
anyway, and I'm hoping to find some time today to try scanning them myself.
I thought they'd have better scanners, though, and more scanning experience.
I didn't think about whether they were making the CD from the prints or from
the negatives.  Perhaps if I ask the right questions they'd scan straight
from the negatives next time.

   -Rich


William Robb wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Klein
 Subject: Photo CDs
 
 
  I tried getting a roll of film developed straight to a CD for
 the first time
  yesterday.  I forget the brand name, but it wasn't a Kodak
 PhotoCD.  The
  files on the CD were .jpg images, approximately 1480x1035,
 24-bit color.  I
  was a bit disappointed because that resolution doesn't allow
 for much
  zooming and cropping before you run into blatant pixellation.
 Is this the
  same for all photo CDs, or could I do better going with
 another lab?
 
 That is called a Picture CD. We make em at Wal-Mart for about 10
 bucks. IMHO, they are a really cheap and cheerful product. They
 are scanned from the print, not the negative, so the quality is
 dependant on print quality (I would lay odds they made a set of
 prints from your negatives).
 Funny thing, we paid 10 grand (Canadian) for the equipment. I
 figure I could have bought the stuff retail for about 2000.00.
 William Robb
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Re: RE: a picture

2001-10-04 Thread Timo Hartikainen

David Brooks wrote:
I can never get my Superia 400 to look that good
from the lab


I must confess, I should have mentioned it, there are some things I tweaked 
with software.. but it was by mistake, I'm not very good with PS and those 
kind of graphics programs..(I tried different contrast  brightness 
settings)

The original pic is pretty much like this pic, very colourful but less 
contrast.

timo

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Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hurry

2001-10-04 Thread tom

Mark Dalal wrote:
 
 Hey Folks,
 
 If you've wanted a 67, you can't pass this one up:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281821351

Especially with that 28mm.

What up with your other email?

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Re: To Zx-5n or not... ( A little bit OTT)

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan

As with most AF lenses today, it fells like rubber.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Saw the following comment:
 
  I agree that the 50mm is horrible to focus
 manually but
  it's so sharp I can live with it.
 
 What about the FA50 f1.4, I know the optics are
 great but 
 What's the MF feel like?
 
 I ask because I was toying with the idea of
 convincing my wife 
 to make it my Christmas present.
 
 :-)
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RE: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hurry

2001-10-04 Thread David Hatfield

Too late!  It's gone.  Wish it had been me!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of tom
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hurry

Mark Dalal wrote:

 Hey Folks,

 If you've wanted a 67, you can't pass this one up:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281821351

Especially with that 28mm.

What up with your other email?

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Re: 20mm F1.4

2001-10-04 Thread David A. Mann

Antti-Pekka Virjonen writes:

 Wow... The infamous 15/1.4 :-)

 I just measured the front element of my 15/3.5.  At about 67mm that must 
really make it a 15mm f/0.22, right? ;)  Pentax has been underselling its 
products!

(It's Friday in my timezone)

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hurry

2001-10-04 Thread David A. Mann

tom writes:

  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281821351
 
 Especially with that 28mm.

 Strange, I thought the widest 67 lens is the 35mm fisheye.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: More Limited products from Pentax

2001-10-04 Thread David A. Mann

William Robb writes:

 Tell him the LX is outdated, high maintenance equipment.
 Re-inforce his decision to go digital, while at the same time,
 undermine his confidence in the LXen. By the time you are done,
 if you do it smart, you should be able to get the LX for just
 about nothing.

 Too late, I think.  I've told him in the past just how good those things are.  All I 
can do is offer them a good home (and tempt them with some A* glass) and 
hope he doesn't charge me ebay prices :)

 I was talking to the owner of the camera shop last night and he told me how 
he found an LX at an insurance auction.  It had been in a 4WD which 
overturned in a river.  The camera had been stored somewhere around roof-
level so it spent a few hours underwater.  He picked it up for 50 bucks (NZ 
dollars, worth about half that in US currency) and it still works today without 
repair, over 10 years later.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Located all sorts of goodies

2001-10-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

http://www.pawluk.com/darkroom/#four

Here's all sorts of stuff that might interest some of you.  Backpacks, darkroom stuff. 
 Enjoy shopping.

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Located all sorts of goodies

2001-10-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

http://www.pawluk.com/darkroom/#four

Here's all sorts of stuff that might interest some of you.  Backpacks, darkroom stuff. 
 Enjoy shopping.

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Re: More Limited products from Pentax

2001-10-04 Thread Aaron Reynolds

David A. Mann wrote:
  A guy at work owns two LX bodies and has told me he's getting 
interested in
  going digital.  Now I've got an ethical dilemma: keep him away from 
the dark
  side (or is that dark slide), or give his LXen a good home :)

Tell him to hold on to one of them and sell the other to you.

Dilemma solved!

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Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hu rry

2001-10-04 Thread Mark Roberts

28mm is probably a misreading of 2.8 (as in f2.8), especially likely since
the seller, judging by the price, clearly didn't know what he had (if indeed
he had it; the feedback rating of 2 didn't exactly inspire confidence
for me).

-- Original Message --

tom writes:

  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281821351
 
 Especially with that 28mm.

 Strange, I thought the widest 67 lens is the 35mm fisheye.


-- 
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Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hurry

2001-10-04 Thread tom

David A. Mann wrote:
 
 tom writes:
 
   http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281821351
 
  Especially with that 28mm.
 
  Strange, I thought the widest 67 lens is the 35mm fisheye.

Well, it *might* be...or maybe that 28mm is a rare prototype, a steal at
$670.

Maybe an 'A' 35/1.4 will come up soon.

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RE: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Lewis, Gerald

Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do have a 93 Alfa Romeo 164L
and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.

Jerry in Houston

-Original Message-
From: Paul Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)


Hi Gianfranco,

My second car was a 1975 Series1 Beta it was white with an 1800 motor, it
wasnt in the best condition, but drove wondrfuly, a few years later i had a
1980 Series 2 with a 2 litre motor. I liked the 1800 motor more. If i found
the right one i'd buy another series 1 again.

If i lived in Italy i'd definately have a Lancia :)

In my garage at home i have an 1975 Fiat 128 Sedan, very cute car. nice
little car, its not registered, i bought it for $100au :)

Paul
- Original Message -
From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:30 AM
Subject: OT: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)


 Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gianfranco,
 
  h, nice car the Lancia Flaminia, Lancias are my favourite
 cars :)
  unfortunatley they dont import them to Australia anymore, so
 most of the
  Lancia around here are worn out old rusty Betas. A few Fulvias
 around though
 

 Hi Paul,
 It's a real pity... I know that they stopped manufacturing the
 right drive version because there wasn't enough market for them
 anymore in UK and Japan.
 My father had a tan 1978 Beta that eventually got rusty too...
 but I had at least the opportunity to drive it few times before
 dismissing it. I'm still looking for the right, good shaped Beta
 to purchase: they're quite inexpensive now but cannot be
 registered like classic cars yet.

 Ciao,

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Re: Re[4]: Preparing for a Day of Photography

2001-10-04 Thread Rfsindg

Bob Walkden writes:
 it's not clear from this, Bruce, whether
 you mean Shel's wife/partner/boyfriend/
 girlfriend or Bob S's wife/partner/boyfriend/
 girlfriend. Of course, it being California
 and all, perhaps they share.

Bob,

I'm from the more conservative middle of the USA, and my wife frowns on sharing... g

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hurry

2001-10-04 Thread Mark Dalal

From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Mark Dalal wrote:
 
  Hey Folks,
 
  If you've wanted a 67, you can't pass this one up:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281821351

 Especially with that 28mm.

Well, it's the newer style body with TTL meter, probably a 90/2.8 and what
looked like the 45/4. All seemed like the newer style lenses too. Even if
the body needed a CLA, you'd be coming out ahead as something like that
would retail for around $1600.

 What up with your other email?

I'm having some grief with my hosting company...

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Fw: Way off topic, but pass it on

2001-10-04 Thread Bill Owens

Subject: Way off topic, but pass it on


 Just received a bill today for our Providian Credit Card.  Effective Nov
5,
 they are going to charge an additional $9.95 per month for online
payments.
 I guess since interest rates are now low, they need a new way to rip off
 their customers.

 Sorry, but I had to vent.

 Bill, KG4LOV
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Re: Way off topic, but pass it on

2001-10-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens
Subject: Fw: Way off topic, but pass it on


 Subject: Way off topic, but pass it on


  Just received a bill today for our Providian Credit Card.
Effective Nov
 5,
  they are going to charge an additional $9.95 per month for
online
 payments.
  I guess since interest rates are now low, they need a new
way to rip off
  their customers.
 
  Sorry, but I had to vent.

Good deal for them, they get you to bypass the labour intensive
part of the process so they can lay people off, then they charge
you extra for saving them money. I told one bank to go F*k
themselves when they tried to pull a stunt on me a few years
ago. I went into a branch to pay my VISA (drawn on their bank)
and they tried to hit me with a service fee. I told them they
could shove their card and the balance owed into their nether
regions. I never did pay that card off. When they tried to
collect, I made so much trouble for them they dropped the issue
and ate the balance.
Funny thing, they sent me an application for a card a few years
later, so I applied for fun, expecting to get a Dear Squid
letter, but they issued a card.
I was amazed, to be sure.
William Robb
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RE: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Trevor Wiebe

I have a well-used Saturn.  It has four wheels, a
steering wheel and a horn that goes BEEP.  SO THERE.


--- Lewis, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do
 have a 93 Alfa Romeo 164L
 and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.
 
 Jerry in Houston
 
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 From: Paul Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey
 Pentax.)
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OT -- back to WTC

2001-10-04 Thread Robert Harris

Someone has put together a brilliant slide show of the events of Sept. 
11. Loads very slowly with a dial-up connection but, IMO, worth waiting for.

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Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hurry

2001-10-04 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Mark Dalal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, it's the newer style body with TTL meter, probably a
90/2.8 and what
 looked like the 45/4. All seemed like the newer style lenses
too. Even if
 the body needed a CLA, you'd be coming out ahead as something
like that
 would retail for around $1600.

Well, if you think that I paid more for a (new) 90/2.8...
I hope it's true that he ships in USA only.
:(

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RE: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Trevor Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a well-used Saturn.  It has four wheels, a
 steering wheel and a horn that goes BEEP.  SO THERE.

I think it's - almost - enough...

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Re: OT -- back to WTC

2001-10-04 Thread Trevor Wiebe

Great!  Where?

--- Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Someone has put together a brilliant slide show of
 the events of Sept. 
 11. Loads very slowly with a dial-up connection but,
 IMO, worth waiting for.
 
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RE: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Lewis, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do have a 93
Alfa Romeo 164L
 and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.
 

The GTV-6 is a very good car that didn't sell very well in
Italy, because all the cars over 2000 cm³ at that time were
charged of a huge tax.
Now Alfa and Lancia belong to the same group (for a short period
they were together as Alfa-Lancia Industriale. I don't know
how Fiat, owner of the two brands, is managing the different
companies now).

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Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Mark Roberts

I have a 1984 Subaru GL with 140,000 miles on it (it's going to get me through
one more winter...I hope).

If you own a nice car you're not spending as much money on cameras, lenses and
film as you might be otherwise ;-)

Trevor Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a well-used Saturn.  It has four wheels, a
steering wheel and a horn that goes BEEP.  SO THERE.

--- Lewis, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do
 have a 93 Alfa Romeo 164L
 and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.

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Re: OT -- back to WTC

2001-10-04 Thread Robert Harris

Trevor Wiebe wrote:

 Great!  Where?


Whoops -- forgot this.

http://www.zaffix.com/dslr/onlytime.swf

 
 --- Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Someone has put together a brilliant slide show of
the events of Sept. 
11. Loads very slowly with a dial-up connection but,
IMO, worth waiting for.
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Oh the agony!

2001-10-04 Thread Mark Dalal

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281890801

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Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Trevor Wiebe

Ah, but you are an amateur, sir!  My sister-in-law
just consigned her Honda CRX to the scrap heap after
aprox. 375,000 miles.  The body was being held
together by rust, which in turn was held together by a
combination of chewing gum, prayer and sheer
recklessness.  It had more pits and dents than a
teenager's face.

Keep on going with that rig.  You have MANY more miles
to go before that particular Subaru sleeps ... (with
apologies to Robert Frost).


--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a 1984 Subaru GL with 140,000 miles on it
 (it's going to get me through
 one more winter...I hope).
 
 If you own a nice car you're not spending as much
 money on cameras, lenses and
 film as you might be otherwise ;-)
 
 Trevor Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a well-used Saturn.  It has four wheels, a
 steering wheel and a horn that goes BEEP.  SO
 THERE.
 
 --- Lewis, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do
  have a 93 Alfa Romeo 164L
  and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 www.robertstech.com
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Re: Lancia (Way off Topic)

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

I think Fiat is marketing Alfa very well and they appear to be selling well
and whilst they are doing this they are letting Lancia die a slow painful
death. The new Alfas are very nice, shame i cant afford one :)

In 1990 Alfa pulled out of Australia and a Fiat a few years before. Alfa
returned in 1998 (i think it was 1998) when they released the 156 and they
been exceptionaly well ever since.  I think there is also plans to
reintroduce Fiats.

In Australia Alfa earned itself a very poor name, by making some pretty
mechanicaly troublesom cars with quite poor build quality and prone to rust.
Mainly 33s, Sud and others. The 164 sold exceptionaly poorly too, i dont
think the styling was a big hit here.

Lancias were better before Fiat took control of them, i think the Fulvia and
2000 Berlina were that last great Lancias. The Beta was a different car to
any prior Lancia and was more like a Fiat, but with better build quality.

Regards,
Paul Jones


- Original Message -
From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)


 Lewis, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do have a 93
 Alfa Romeo 164L
  and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.
 

 The GTV-6 is a very good car that didn't sell very well in
 Italy, because all the cars over 2000 cm³ at that time were
 charged of a huge tax.
 Now Alfa and Lancia belong to the same group (for a short period
 they were together as Alfa-Lancia Industriale. I don't know
 how Fiat, owner of the two brands, is managing the different
 companies now).

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Re: HP Photosmart S20 and BW

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

I have found with my S20 that if i scan them in b/w mode then they come out
terribly.  I get good results if i scan them as a colour negative and then
import them into Photoshop, then turn them into a b/w image by using the
channel mixer and clicking monochrome. I dont use grey scale as it doesnt do
a great job.

If i scan them in b/w mode i seem to lose some shadow detail.

Regards,
Paul Jones


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: HP Photosmart S20 and BW


 i was referring to the bw pictures on noman koren's site
 ...http://www.normankoren.com/ImageOld/index.html.  i missed to point out
 it, sorry.


 From: Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: HP Photosmart S20 and BW
 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:48:37 -0400
 
 Paul, William, Bill and all othes on list ---
 
 I am referring once again about our earlier notes on HP S20.
 
 With our discussions the other day that BW negatives don't come out that
 good, I wrote to Norman Koren - and he came back saying the pictures he
has
 on his web site at http://www.normankoren.com are with very much with HP
 S20
 - with some manipulation in editor.
 He says he uses picture window software -  some might prefer using
 photoshop.
 
 I feel those are pretty good, hence thought of mentioning on the list..
 
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Re: OT -- back to WTC

2001-10-04 Thread Trevor Wiebe

Extremely moving.  The editorial rant at the end
ruined it, though.  The images and the accompanying
music should have been allowed to speak for
themselves.  It's amazing how the incredible power of
images can be undermined by words.  It's sort of like
watching a powerful and moving film and having some
bonehead in the next seat telling you throughout what
each scene means to him.

Absolutely incredible images, though, and their
juxtaposition was extremely well done.


--- Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trevor Wiebe wrote:
 
  Great!  Where?
 
 
 Whoops -- forgot this.
 
 http://www.zaffix.com/dslr/onlytime.swf
 
  
  --- Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Someone has put together a brilliant slide show of
 the events of Sept. 
 11. Loads very slowly with a dial-up connection
 but,
 IMO, worth waiting for.
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Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

375,000 miles is quite impressive for a Honda CRX, i wouldnt have though it
possible :)

I doubt any Lancia made it that far :)


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From: Trevor Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)


 Ah, but you are an amateur, sir!  My sister-in-law
 just consigned her Honda CRX to the scrap heap after
 aprox. 375,000 miles.  The body was being held
 together by rust, which in turn was held together by a
 combination of chewing gum, prayer and sheer
 recklessness.  It had more pits and dents than a
 teenager's face.

 Keep on going with that rig.  You have MANY more miles
 to go before that particular Subaru sleeps ... (with
 apologies to Robert Frost).


 --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a 1984 Subaru GL with 140,000 miles on it
  (it's going to get me through
  one more winter...I hope).
 
  If you own a nice car you're not spending as much
  money on cameras, lenses and
  film as you might be otherwise ;-)
 
  Trevor Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a well-used Saturn.  It has four wheels, a
  steering wheel and a horn that goes BEEP.  SO
  THERE.
  
  --- Lewis, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do
   have a 93 Alfa Romeo 164L
   and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.
 
  --
  Mark Roberts
  www.robertstech.com
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Re: Flash recommendations for LX please

2001-10-04 Thread Alan Chan

What is your experience with the LX and Metz 40MZ3i in
terms of results?
I find it difficult to get well balanced shots with
this combination (tends to overexpose).
I have been shooting it on x synchro  at f4. For the
type of shots I do, I need to automise it as much as
possible...

Unfortunately, I used full manual mode when I still had the LX. If the 
subject was large, I suggest you try A mode which is not TTL. You can 
alter the f-stop setting on the flash to achieve the compensation. For 
instance, for outdoor shots, if the camera was set to f4, you can set the 
flash to f2.8 or even f2. This way, you can achieve flash compensation 
(without TTL of course). However, altering the f-stop on the flash in TTL 
mode takes no effect, this method works for non-TTL modes only.

regards,
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Re: Oh the agony!

2001-10-04 Thread Trevor Wiebe

Now that hurts.  I think we can all take some solace
in the fact that the item was likely dusty and in need
of a good wiping with a damp cloth.


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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281890801
 
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Re: Oh the agony!

2001-10-04 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Mark Dalal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281890801
 

It seems we reached 151 LX on the list (if I'm right and the
buyer is Tonghang Zhou)...

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Re: Photo CDs

2001-10-04 Thread Kenneth Waller

I've been using Kodak Photo CD service to digitize my slides over the last
3+ years and have been very happy with the results. Costs me locally about
$1.50 to $2.00 US per image scan depending on the number of slides scanned.
The CD has 5 resolutions per image, from 192X128 up to 3072X2048. I usually
get over 100 scans per CD. these scans sometime require minor lightpoint and
darkpoint adjustment and some minor color adjustment, which only take a
minute or two along the way to sizing and printing or posting. I have only
printed up to 8X10, but once I fire up my Epson 2000P we'll see how big
these images can be and still be acceptable. There appears to be confusion
about the different CD scanning services out there. From what I can tell,
the Kodak picture CD service is limited to web postings or smallish prints.
Kodak also offers a Photo CD Pro whicch allows scans up to 70mb, but cost
over $20 per scan.  I believe that with the Kodak Photo CD service, like
other mass marketed processes,  it will only be as good as the people doing
the scanning.
Ken Waller
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Photo CDs


 Rich wrote:
  I tried getting a roll of film developed straight to a CD for the first
time yesterday.  I forget the brand name, but it wasn't a Kodak PhotoCD.
The files on the CD were .jpg images, approximately 1480x1035, 24-bit color.
I was a bit disappointed because that resolution doesn't allow for much
zooming and cropping before you run into blatant pixellation.  Is this the
same for all photo CDs, or could I do better going with another lab?  

 First time I did that they were truely cheap and cheerful .jpg's of maybe
256K each onto a floppy.  The second time it was closer to your experience.
The images were still unsatisfactory.

 Lately I have tried more Kodak CD's.  The first batch I tried worked out
OK with images of 2000x3000 pixels available on the CD.  Later I sent about
80 negatives and slides for scanning thru the local service.  The results
were OK again, but I did note some variation in quality of the final
product.  I thought some of the slides weren't scanned as well as before and
I was surprised by some of the negatives...very good while others were just
OK.

 I paid about $1.50 each to put the 80 images up.  That's cheaper than the
$600 I'd need for a good scanner and it didn't take any of my time, but I
want better results!

 Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Oh the agony!

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

Its very rare that i see an auction and it actualy pains me that i missed
it, but this one definately does.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Oh the agony!


 Mark Dalal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281890801
 

 It seems we reached 151 LX on the list (if I'm right and the
 buyer is Tonghang Zhou)...

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Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Paul Jones
Subject: Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)


 Living in Australia i have no idea what a saturn is :)

 The only American cars we get here are Jeeps, Neons and
Voyagers. There are
 quite a few Jeeps on the roads, next to no Neons and only a
few more
 voyagers :)

You don't know how very lucky you are...
WW
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Old friends in terrible places...

2001-10-04 Thread John A. Hufnagel

I spotted this the other day...
Time magazine... October 8, 2001 issue... Page 8... Center colum... At
the bottom...
The older lady is using a black bodied Honeywell Pentax and (my guess) a
50mm f/1.4.

Glad to see old friends (the camera) still out there doing what they do
best... Even if the circumstances of their use are tragic.

-- John
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Re: right eye (was MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Bob Rapp

Nenad Djurdjevic wrote


 Just what is the resolution of the human eye.  Do any of the biologists
out
 there know?  Obviously there are a certain number of light sensitive
neurons
 (rods and cones) in the retina and the number of these must be
quantifiable.
 So how many megapixels are we talking about?  It would be interesting to
 find out.

How many times have you looked at a print and it is not as detailed as
you recall seeing it in the view finder. The eyes ability to distinguish
detail is remarkable - only the field of vision is very narrow. I am anxious
to know my self.
The exception of the above is with low speed BW film. For what is
worth, the resulting resolution of the film and optical system is:

1/R = 1/O X 1/F

where R = resolution of the negative
  O = resolution of the optical system
  F = resolution of film
Colour negative film rates anywhere from 80 to 125 lpm and BW 150 and
upwards

Bob.
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Re: right eye (was MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread William Robb

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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:25 PM
Subject: right eye (was MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)


 Just what is the resolution of the human eye.  Do any of the
biologists out
 there know?  Obviously there are a certain number of light
sensitive neurons
 (rods and cones) in the retina and the number of these must be
quantifiable.
 So how many megapixels are we talking about?  It would be
interesting to
 find out.

I don't know about the number of receptors, I recall reading
somewhere (it was probably a Zone VI newsletter) that a well
corrected human eye can resolve about 10 lines per millimeter at
it's closest focus distance. Hence, if a finished print resolves
greater than that, it will appear sharp at any viewing
distance.
William Robb
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Re: Preparing for a Day of Photography

2001-10-04 Thread Bob Keefer

Shel:

You're miles ahead of me in equipment readiness. I only usually have time
for:

1) Sit down in a quiet place and think about what I'm going to be
photographing.

2) Sketch out three or four shots I think I am going to want to look for.

3) Try to imagine whether any unusual technique is called for; if so, review
how I might go about it.

That leads to

4) what equipment will I need? What do I need to bring besides cameras and
film?
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FS: M135/3.5

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

I am selling my M 135/3.5, its in pretty much as new condition. Glass is
perfect and i cant see any braising on the body. Both Aperture and Focus
operate smoothly. It comes with a case, the case is in average condition.

I'm asking $65us for it, plus $5us shipping. I'm in Australia, so the $5us
shipping is to the US. Insurance would be a little bit more.

I can accept payment with Paypal.

Any questions let me know.

Regards,
Paul Jones
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Re: Agfa Snapscan

2001-10-04 Thread Bruce Dayton

Mine has too.  I was comparing it to a true film scanner.  I have had two
flatbeds (one being the Agfa Snapscan) and two film scanners.  The film
scanners turn out much better images than the flatbeds.  One is scanning the
negative and the other is scanning a print made from the negative.

Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA


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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: Agfa Snapscan


  It is more a problem of contrast and sharpness rather than
  resolution.  That being said, it is my second flatbed and I think it is
a
  decent unit.

 I guess it depends on your equipment, but my Agfa Snapscan 1212 has
 done a great job with contrast, resolution, etc.

 --Amita
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Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

I was in a camera shop today and they had a K 85/1.8 for sale for $270au
($135us). So i bought it :) The body has a bit of brasing, but the glass is
perfect.

I've been wanting to get a 77/1.7 for  a while, but havent had the funds.
This should fill the gap nicely.

How much do these usualy sell for?

Also is it worth while getting an original pentax hood for it? if i can
actualy find one.

Regards,
Paul Jones
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Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8

2001-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Paul ...

Good find, great price.  I've seen these lenses in excellent condition
go for as much as $600.00 on eBay, although I think they are worth a
bit less than that.  Last year I bought and sold a damaged lens for
$350.00.  IAC, you did well - it's not a cheap lens.

Finding an original hood for this lens is, IMO, a waste of time.  It
takes a clip-on plastic hood which is easily knocked off.  I use an
old Nikon HN-7 for this puppy.  It's a perfect fit, it's metal, it
screws on, and it can be found more easily and for less money than an
original Pentax hood.

An added advantage is that it's a better hood for Pentax 50mm lenses
than the standard Pentax hoods for that focal length.  It'll require a
step-up ring, but that's cheap and easy to come by.  This scheme also
allows the use of one size filter for the 85mm and the 50mm lenses.

You can see one here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281938348

Paul Jones wrote:

 I was in a camera shop today and 
 they had a K 85/1.8 for sale for $270au
 ($135us). So i bought it :) 
 
 How much do these usualy sell for?
 
 Also is it worth while getting an 
 original pentax hood for it? if i can
 actualy find one.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Re: right eye (was MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Rfsindg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just what is the resolution of the human eye.  Do any of the biologists out
 there know?  Obviously there are a certain number of light sensitive neurons
 (rods and cones) in the retina and the number of these must be quantifiable.
 So how many megapixels are we talking about?  It would be interesting to
 find out. 

The eye has a central part of our vision which is sharper than the rest.  We 
look at things to focus the image on this part of the retina and maximize the 
detail we see.  

The eye is also connected to a marvelous image processing computer with great 
software.  Many people believe they see the whole visual field in great 
detail, all the time.  In fact, the software stitches together sharp images 
of smaller fields into a bigger whole.

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Oh the agony!

2001-10-04 Thread David A. Mann

Ken Archer writes:

 I guess misery loves company.  Well, I'm right there with you.

 Yeah same here.  I spent more than that on film last night :(

Cheers,


- Dave

David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec)
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Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up,
 while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield
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Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8

2001-10-04 Thread Rfsindg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was in a camera shop today and they had a K 85/1.8 for sale for $270au
 ($135us). So i bought it :) The body has a bit of brasing, but the glass is
 perfect.
 
 I've been wanting to get a 77/1.7 for  a while, but havent had the funds.
 This should fill the gap nicely.
 
 How much do these usualy sell for? 

Paul,

You would be lucky to see one for US$280, or double that amount from an 
internet shop.  They are truely rare to find.  I'm still looking...

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

Hi Shel,

Looks like i did get a good buy :)

I emailed the guy with that ebay auction for the hood and will see if he
will ship to Australia, if so i'll grab it.

I'm looking forward it testing the lense on the weekend.

This completes what i was aiming for with my primes to carry around. 24/2,
50/1.4 and now 85/1.8.

Althought a 35/2 would fit in there nicely :)

Regards,
Paul Jones

- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8


 Hi Paul ...

 Good find, great price.  I've seen these lenses in excellent condition
 go for as much as $600.00 on eBay, although I think they are worth a
 bit less than that.  Last year I bought and sold a damaged lens for
 $350.00.  IAC, you did well - it's not a cheap lens.

 Finding an original hood for this lens is, IMO, a waste of time.  It
 takes a clip-on plastic hood which is easily knocked off.  I use an
 old Nikon HN-7 for this puppy.  It's a perfect fit, it's metal, it
 screws on, and it can be found more easily and for less money than an
 original Pentax hood.

 An added advantage is that it's a better hood for Pentax 50mm lenses
 than the standard Pentax hoods for that focal length.  It'll require a
 step-up ring, but that's cheap and easy to come by.  This scheme also
 allows the use of one size filter for the 85mm and the 50mm lenses.

 You can see one here:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281938348

 Paul Jones wrote:

  I was in a camera shop today and
  they had a K 85/1.8 for sale for $270au
  ($135us). So i bought it :)

  How much do these usualy sell for?
 
  Also is it worth while getting an
  original pentax hood for it? if i can
  actualy find one.

 --
 Shel Belinkoff
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Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8

2001-10-04 Thread Bob Rapp

Dammit!!
Where was I? You have one of the sharpest in not the sharpest 85 ever
made IMHO (I have the SMCT version and will never part with it). As I am in
OZ, what else did they have?.. 1 K105/2.8?

Bob
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From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:10 PM
Subject: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8


 Hi,

 I was in a camera shop today and they had a K 85/1.8 for sale for $270au
 ($135us). So i bought it :) The body has a bit of brasing, but the glass
is
 perfect.

 I've been wanting to get a 77/1.7 for  a while, but havent had the funds.
 This should fill the gap nicely.

 How much do these usualy sell for?

 Also is it worth while getting an original pentax hood for it? if i can
 actualy find one.

 Regards,
 Paul Jones
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Rare Desireable Pentax Lenses (was: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8)

2001-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You would be lucky to see one for US$280, 
 or double that amount from an internet shop.  
 They are truely rare to find.  I'm still looking...

This brings up something interesting to ponder: Which Pentax lenses
might be the most rare and desirable?  Clearly the K85/1.8 and it's
older brother, the SMCT 85/1.8 would fall into that group, as might
the K105/2.8.  The Screw mount 135~600 zoom has got to be amongst the
rarest lenses Pentax ever made.  I've only seen one (which was a
mess!) and have never even seen a photo of it.
-- 
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Re: Got a Bargain, they also had a Tak 500/4.5

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

The shop also had a Pentax Screw Mount 500/4.5 for $700au ($350us), it
looked like it was brand new out of the box.


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I was in a camera shop today and they had a K 85/1.8 for sale for
$270au
  ($135us). So i bought it :) The body has a bit of brasing, but the glass
is
  perfect.

  I've been wanting to get a 77/1.7 for  a while, but havent had the funds.
  This should fill the gap nicely.

  How much do these usualy sell for? 

 Paul,

 You would be lucky to see one for US$280, or double that amount from an
 internet shop.  They are truely rare to find.  I'm still looking...

 Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8

2001-10-04 Thread Paul Jones

They didnt make much else of signifigance, except for a Spotmatic ES (could
have been ESII) with 50/1.4 for $380au (190us), it looked like it was brand
new also.

If they had of had a K105/2.8, i would have grabbed that too :)


- Original Message -
From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8


 Dammit!!
 Where was I? You have one of the sharpest in not the sharpest 85 ever
 made IMHO (I have the SMCT version and will never part with it). As I am
in
 OZ, what else did they have?.. 1 K105/2.8?

 Bob
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:10 PM
 Subject: Got a Bargain, I think, an 85/1.8


  Hi,
 
  I was in a camera shop today and they had a K 85/1.8 for sale for $270au
  ($135us). So i bought it :) The body has a bit of brasing, but the glass
 is
  perfect.
 
  I've been wanting to get a 77/1.7 for  a while, but havent had the
funds.
  This should fill the gap nicely.
 
  How much do these usualy sell for?
 
  Also is it worth while getting an original pentax hood for it? if i can
  actualy find one.
 
  Regards,
  Paul Jones
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