Re: Auro Show Snaps
I may go ahead and shoot B&W. I'm more interested in the people than the cars. However, I'll probably shoot a roll or so of color just to see how it reacts under the lights. I just can't imagine using a flah. Heck, I don't even know how to work one. I liked your earlier idea about using a fluorescent filter, and if I can find one, I'll try it, too. William Robb wrote: annoying for the type of photography that I do. > > Simple solution (I don't know why peolple try to complicate > things with flash anyway), shoot Fuji Superia 800, over expose > by a stop, or more if possible, and let the colour fall here it > will. If you are shooting under green lights, and your pictures > are a bit green, so it goes. It beats the hell out of normal > coloured subjects in front of a green background. > Here. look at this. I admit to underexposing by at least a stop, > but the picture gets the point across: > http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Rollei_Attacks.jpg > This was shot on some old Fuji 1600 film and is obviously under > exposed by a stop or more. > Better still, shoot it on black and white. This is where you do > your best work. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG 2003 Themes
- Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: PUG 2003 Themes It was a =joke=, Bill... But still, it might be interesting to see the interpretations. Oops. Sorry, I thought you were sewious. OTOH, it might William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Critique request
At 09:31 PM 11/15/01 -0600, you wrote: >If anyone has the time I'd appreciate any critique on the following image: I love the lighting and composition. Gary J. Sibio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Auro Show Snaps I don't use flash. I don't own a flash. Flash is intrusive and annoying for the type of photography that I do. Simple solution (I don't know why peolple try to complicate things with flash anyway), shoot Fuji Superia 800, over expose by a stop, or more if possible, and let the colour fall here it will. If you are shooting under green lights, and your pictures are a bit green, so it goes. It beats the hell out of normal coloured subjects in front of a green background. Here. look at this. I admit to underexposing by at least a stop, but the picture gets the point across: http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Rollei_Attacks.jpg This was shot on some old Fuji 1600 film and is obviously under exposed by a stop or more. Better still, shoot it on black and white. This is where you do your best work. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
At 08:58 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >Just a poll: >Where do you buy your film? B&H or Adorama Gary J. Sibio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Flag Wrapped Building
Earlier this month a major office building in the area was wrapped in an American flag. I shot a number of frames of this unique event, and here's one that I'd like to share with you all. Hope you enjoy it, and feel free to comment. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/flagbldg.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular
Paul Jones wrote: > Hi, > > >From my calculations it should start at 4:00am in Melbourne. As its 1:00 am > for HK and 2:00am for Tokyo and Melbourne is 3 hours infront of HK and 2 > hours in front of Tokyo. > > What times sunrise in Sydney and Melbourne at the moment? not sure, but here in Byron Bay its at about 5:40. But what DAY does this happen, Saturday, Sunday, Monday? Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Points of Order
Hi Mafud: I'm probably not entirely serious about scanning everything! However, I do have a collection of negatives and slides which I have been asked to give to a web-based institute, as they are an almost unique record of a particular place taken between 1967-69, and they number several hundreds of each. In this case, it's not really my right to exclude anything except the technically bad, I think. I will keep the negatives - my feeling is that eventually (and I'm not putting a time frame on this) it will be quite hard to get cheap wet-printing done commercially, but until then I'll maintain both, gradually building the scanned copies up. The process should be one which easily identifies those which are really worth keeping and those which can be binned. Incidentally, I did go through the hard task of weeding out the really bad stuff a couple of times already! As to whether I would choose to print from the scan or the negative: all depends on the quality I can achieve from computer technology vs traditional, modified for the potential use. I have had one perfectly satisfactory set published in a technical journal, which incidentally were (see another thread) desaturated colour scanned from an original 35mm slide at 1600dpi on a flatbed - pushing the technology a bit, I think! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > In a message dated 11/14/01 5:07:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Time to get scanning - only about 6000 negatives and slides to go, and I'll > > > > be > > up to date - if I stop shooting new stuff! > > > > > > Hey John! > > Are you going to scan ~each and every~ negative? And why? > What I realized is that most "snapshots" are only good for viewing, not > keeping. > > But how many... all of them? And pray tell, what are you going to do with the > negatives? ...And which would you actually choose to have a print made from > in ten years: your CD or the negatives? > > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Three more screwmount lenses to use.
With it being overcast here I ended up going into Ft. Lauderdale to take some shots. Not much to speak of but at least I got out. I ended up visiting some pawn shops and camera shops. I think I hit paydirt! I found this neat little camera shop that repairs cameras. They did not have much in Pentax K mount, but they did in M42! I now have added to my arsenal: Super-Takumar 35mm f3.5 Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 105mm f2.8 with hood and case Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 200mm f4 All came with front caps, one Honeywell the rest Asahi, and rear caps, one non-Takumar. I left both the 135 f2.5s there along with the 55 f1.8s being that I already have these. I was like a kid in a candy store. I am glad I have the M42-K adapter with me. Now I can try them all out on either the LX or MZ-S (that would make a pretty picture, the Tele_Takumar 300/6.3 on the MZ-S.) He is going to check about another lens they may have. I will not let the cat out of the bag about it. I will check next week to see if he has it. I guess these lens purchases (with the 300/6.3) are my birthday and Christmas presents to myself. I could tell this was the place for me when two steps inside the door, in the showcase, was not only an Argus and other neat cameras, but an H1a with clip-on meter. All are excellent, but not mint, woohoo, César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida in Hollywood, Florida - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
In a message dated 11/15/01 11:14:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I don't use flash. I don't own a flash. Flash is intrusive and > May I then forewarn you you won't be happy with the color rendition of ~any~ image you take under all that mixed lighting? Not only will your photos be way off vis-vis the ~actual~ color of any automobiles you shoot, your backgrounds will be busy and miserable. One last suggestion: try to get into the preview show to take your photos. I might also say what you propose to do is ~not~ the type of photography you normally take, whatever that is. Shooting under mixed lighting sux under the best of conditions. Without a flash: I guarantee mixed if not horrid results. But ... to each his own. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting Leonids - any tips?
It's all going to depend on how many there really are. If it's a storm, I don't plan to leave my shutter open for much more than a minute, possibly a good deal less, otherwise they will wipe each other out on the film. If there's only 1 a minute or so, then I'll probably use a longer exposure. This is with 400 speed film. I plan to have three cameras set up. One with my newly acquired Zenitar 16mm fish-eye (which I'm very proud of). One with a 28/f3.5. The other will be a 43f/1.9. One of these will be on a motorized tracker, the other two will show some star trailing, but that's not necessarily bad. It depends what you like. This following site has some tips too. They make sense based on what I've experienced. http://leonids.hq.nasa.gov/leonids/photo.html Clear skies and good shooting. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: shooting Leonids - any tips? > I was reading that to shoot meteors, you should > use the widest angle lens possible and do > 5-to-10-minute exposures. Does anyone here have > any tips they'd like to share? This will be my > first meteor shower. > > Thanks, > Amita > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
In a message dated 11/15/01 3:13:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This certainly hasn't been my experience of them. Your experience is ~rare~ with B&H, on the phone or in person. If you remember, they are New Yorkers. But their vast inventories, order taking procedures (you give them your phone number, they pull up your history) and shipping efficiency makes me go back. And yeah, I'm simply not going to pander to local merchants who would charge me up to $45 a pro-pak (of stale, unrefrigerated film) when I can buy fresh stuph from B&H for $30 plus shipping. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular
Hi, >From my calculations it should start at 4:00am in Melbourne. As its 1:00 am for HK and 2:00am for Tokyo and Melbourne is 3 hours infront of HK and 2 hours in front of Tokyo. What times sunrise in Sydney and Melbourne at the moment? Paul - Original Message - From: "Kevin Waterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular > Richard Seaman wrote: > > > folks, > > > > Here's a NASA website talking about the upcoming Leonid shower: > > > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast08nov_1.htm > > That all looks good for us in Australia, but I dont know what time I should > be looking? > > anyone? > > Kevin > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Critique request
What's to critique? An excellent image! I can see nothing that needs improvement. Maris - Original Message - From: "Delano Mireles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax discuss pdml.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:31 PM Subject: Critique request | If anyone has the time I'd appreciate any critique on the following image: | | http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?00n2Vn | | Thank you! | | Delano | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Nostalgia
> I may be wrong in this but I think the OM-10 has OTF metering only in the flash > mode while the more professional single digit OM's (OM2/3/4) have OTF in both > flash and ambient light metering. > BTW, it's a lovely camera and part of a truly great system. > RK If my understanding of the manual is correct, it's just the opposite. OTF metering in ambient lighting and auto flash only with T20 or T32 flashes. The metering is supposedly accurate only to 2 seconds, although the shutter stays open much longer. General opinion seems to be that beyond that, reciprocity failure takes over. My assumption is that the same would be true with the LX. (How's that for staying nearly on topic?) :-) Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Nostalgia
Bill Owens wrote: > I'm anxiously awaiting the Big Brown Truck with the first component of my > desire to wax nostalgic and have cameras I have owned and liked in the past. > The first is an Olympus OM-10 with the GC manual adapter and 50/1.8 lens, > which should arrive today or tomorrow. > > Is the OTF metering a big deal with this camera? Since the max shutter > speed is 2 seconds, my guess would be no, but I'd appreciate other comments. > I may be wrong in this but I think the OM-10 has OTF metering only in the flash mode while the more professional single digit OM's (OM2/3/4) have OTF in both flash and ambient light metering. BTW, it's a lovely camera and part of a truly great system. RK - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
I don't use flash. I don't own a flash. Flash is intrusive and annoying for the type of photography that I do. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You might test a flash indoors to see what I mean. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular
Richard Seaman wrote: > folks, > > Here's a NASA website talking about the upcoming Leonid shower: > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast08nov_1.htm That all looks good for us in Australia, but I dont know what time I should be looking? anyone? Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
I buy all my film from Don's Photo. Since I work there, it makes sense... :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers (and taking their pictures)
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Juan J. Buhler wrote: > Hi folks, > > I put together a page of pictures I took when meeting other people > from the list. Nothing great photographically (some are almost good, > though) but a nice collection of good moments. > > http://www.jbuhler.com/html/pdml.html That's a great idea, Juan! Thanks. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Jim Apilado wrote: > I purchase all my wedding film (Fuji) from B & H in NYC. Heck. Let's > say I buy most of my film from them. Locally, Portland OR, I like to > buy the 12 exposure rolls of Fujicolor from Ritz Camera. Short of > bulk loading B&W film, I wish I could get BW film in 12 exposures. Ilford makes 12exp B&W film. Their FP4 (ISO 125) and HP5 (ISO 400) are available in 12, 24 and 36 exposures for 35mm. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WARNING: OT: 1000 Points of Order
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > John Mustarde wrote: > > > >> Last Friday I finally got all my 78 rpm records transferred > >> to 8-track tapes. So what's next? > >> > But John, that's a technological step backwards! You should be > transferring those 78s to wax cylinders, which are easily listened to > with a pin and a piece of paper. Bosh! You don't need that newfangled wax stuff... good ol' tinfoil works just fine. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Buying a scanner
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Buying a scanner > Also I might be able to get a scanner so I need you opinion on which > brand > and model is best for around $500. Sorry my budget is very low but > those > of you with kids will understand. I do know that getting a film > scanner > will be very expensive so I am resorting to just the plain scanner. > > To get a high-quality scanner at near that price, look for a used Nikon > LS-2000 on eBay. It was Nikon's high-end 35 mm. scanner until a few > months ago, when Nikon brought out some new models. Now the price on > used LS-2000s has dropped. I got mine for $576 and am very happy with > it. Nikon meant this model for professional use. If you get a good one > you will be happy. Otherwise, with a new $500 scanner, it will be a > lower-quality model and you may or may not get results that you like. I will once again reccomend the Polaroid Sprintscan 4000. After the rebate, you can get it for $550 brand new. I've been very impressed by both the scanner and the software. It has very low noise in the shadows and it is a 4000dpi scanner. Check out the archives of the filmscanner mail list to get more info... http://phi.res.cse.dmu.ac.uk/Filmscan/ Isaac > > Joe > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Low budget WA?
Todd, I have not heard of this lens. Do you know where I might be able to find out more about this lens? I'm intrigued by the thought of a fisheye. Thanks, Delano on 11/15/01 9:42 PM, Todd Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have found the 19mm Vivitar reasonably sharp, but flare prone and poor > contrast. Seems well built though. It is in the same price range is the > Zenitar 16mm fisheye. The Zenitar is a better lens in almost every aspect > (about the only way the Vivitar is better is that you can use any filter > with it, the Zenitar is limited to 3 B&W filters+clear). You might as well > get the Zenitar, the distortion is so bad with the Vivitar it practically > is a fisheye. > > Todd > > At 01:30 PM 11/15/01 -0600, you wrote: >> With a couple of birthday's on the horizon and Christmas around the corner >> the budget is a little tight but I'm constantly looking for a little more >> "space" in certain shots. >> >> Does anyone have any experience with the 19mm Vivitar? I realize this by >> far no pro lens but it "affords" me a wider angle than my current 28mm >> limit. >> >> Thanks for any replies >> >> D >> - > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular
folks, Here's a NASA website talking about the upcoming Leonid shower: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast08nov_1.htm There's a great looking photo on the site, taken with a fisheye over a four hour period. The Leonids are annual, and this one's supposed to be much better than the 1998 event, which someone said had meteors which cast shadows on the ground! Someone on the list I think said that it's on Saturday morning, but according to the website above it's on Sunday. Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Low budget WA?
I have found the 19mm Vivitar reasonably sharp, but flare prone and poor contrast. Seems well built though. It is in the same price range is the Zenitar 16mm fisheye. The Zenitar is a better lens in almost every aspect (about the only way the Vivitar is better is that you can use any filter with it, the Zenitar is limited to 3 B&W filters+clear). You might as well get the Zenitar, the distortion is so bad with the Vivitar it practically is a fisheye. Todd At 01:30 PM 11/15/01 -0600, you wrote: >With a couple of birthday's on the horizon and Christmas around the corner >the budget is a little tight but I'm constantly looking for a little more >"space" in certain shots. > >Does anyone have any experience with the 19mm Vivitar? I realize this by >far no pro lens but it "affords" me a wider angle than my current 28mm >limit. > >Thanks for any replies > >D >- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Critique request
If anyone has the time I'd appreciate any critique on the following image: http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?00n2Vn Thank you! Delano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG 2003 Themes
Me: What does "Digital" mean? All photos submitted to PUG have been digitized. Bill: I dunno, it was just a word that popped into my head. Me again: Okay...barring further clarification, it's an open month. Me: What does "Professional" mean? (Heck, I'm a professional, but not in photography.) Bill: That was Doug Brewer's idea. Lets ask him shall we?? Me again: Okay, Doug, what does it mean? Same as digital? Bill: Remember, 2003 will be the year of irreverence. Also, nothing really is cast in stone. I changed a bunch of 2002 themes because they were too equipment specific. If these ideas meet with catcalls and thrown vegetables, I am open to yet more theme sugestions. The Cliché theme stays Me again: Yes, I like that one. It will take some creativity, sort of like the Bulwer Lytton prize: a very good worst picture. Well done, Bill. We should start thinking up a prize for the best cliché image. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX???
Haven't I answered this before? The huge reason is that majordomo does not have this capacity. Since it doesn't, someone would have to build a hack. That someone would have to be someone other than me, because A.) I have no time and B.) I have no interest in spending the time to build a redundancy into the digest subject list and, of course, C.) I'd have to teach myself perl scripting before I could even begin to attack something as relatively temperamental as the majordomo digesting procedure. Which brings us back to A. I could see the need for an index on the digest, and I worked hard to get it done. Frankly, I don't see numbers as any sort of improvement; it's no harder to search for a word string than it is to search for a number string. However, if someone else wants to build it, test it and explain to me how to install it, I'll see what I can do. Doug At 7:43 AM -050011/15/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, or at least typed: >Several times I've written and asked why this site cannot use a numbered >index. It is easier to look at a numbered index and then find a numbered >entry. It is easier then attempting to read similiar entries from a long >list, unnumbered. > >Thank you, >Burt >NYC >USA -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
And you thought _you_ hated UPS
> http://homepage.mac.com/simonster/PhotoAlbum3.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG 2003 Themes - "professional"
Richard Seaman writes: > I know what a "professional" is when applied to a person, but what > qualifies a photo to appear in the PUG "professional" gallery? > > Does it have to be a photo shot for money? It doesn't say anything about professional photography. I like the idea as its open to a lot of interpretation. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
shooting Leonids - any tips?
I was reading that to shoot meteors, you should use the widest angle lens possible and do 5-to-10-minute exposures. Does anyone here have any tips they'd like to share? This will be my first meteor shower. Thanks, Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
When I need some "last minute" film for a job, I will buy at Citizens. It still is cheaper to buy at B&H even with the shipping added. I use to buy at Camera World in their retail store downtown. They were still higher than B&H but I was a loyal customer, having started with them way back in the late 1970's. When the ownership changed a lot of service I use to get from them changed. Even a long time customer wouldn't get them to change their mind. I no longer buy anything from Camera World either at their retail store or on mail order. Jim A. > From: Timothy Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:34:50 -0800 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: where to buy film > > Jim... > > Have you shopped at Citizen's Photo for film? I'm curious to see how their > prices compare to B&H. Obviously B&H will be cheaper, but by how much? > > t > > On 11/15/01 6:27 AM, Jim Apilado wrote: > >> I purchase all my wedding film (Fuji) from B & H in NYC. Heck. Let's say I >> buy most of my film from them. Locally, Portland OR, I like to buy the 12 >> exposure rolls of Fujicolor from Ritz Camera. Short of bulk loading B&W >> film, I wish I could get BW film in 12 exposures. >> >> Jim A. >> >>> From: "Cory or Brenda Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:58:57 -0500 >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: where to buy film >>> >>> Just a poll: >>> Where do you buy your film? >>> >>> Cory Waters >>> - >>> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >>> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >>> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax "K" 55mm f/1.8
I have the above lens for sale. I'll take the first $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping. If you are interested please reply OFF LIST to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The glass is clean and it works perfectly. The only distraction is a very little paint loss around the filter ring. Believe me, it 'it's =very= little. Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: where to buy film
B&H for everything but the Kodak Gold 100, which I get at K-Mart for less than $1.35 per roll. Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cory or Brenda Waters Sent: November 15, 2001 8:59 AM Just a poll: Where do you buy your film? Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG 2003 Themes
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, lbparis wrote: > The word professional has changed in meaning over the past > several decades. At one time there weren't a lot of professions > because there had to be a clear path to a professorship in the > career field to be one. Now, all one has to do to be considered > a professional is to earn a living doing whatever it is that he > does. Professionals had college/university degrees to work > through in order to gain the level of being a professional. Yeah, but how about professional cameras? Why don't we try to define that, uh? I'm just saying. [hiding under my desk] j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Nostalgia again - OT
If memory serves, Olympus guaranteed reliable exposure down to 2 seconds but the camera will actually go much longer. Reciprocity and all that kicks in so I guess they figured they'd best not claim too much. ppro > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Owens > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Nostalgia again - OT > > > > I received the OM-10 today and am somewhat puzzled. The manual states that > AE is available from 2 sec to 1/1000. However, it appears that the lower > limit is considerably more than 2 seconds, or will this change when I get > around to loading film? I know the OM-10 uses OTF metering, and if it's > available at more than 2 seconds, it sounds like a really nice feature. > > Bill, KG4LOV > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG 2003 Themes
The word professional has changed in meaning over the past several decades. At one time there weren't a lot of professions because there had to be a clear path to a professorship in the career field to be one. Now, all one has to do to be considered a professional is to earn a living doing whatever it is that he does. Professionals had college/university degrees to work through in order to gain the level of being a professional. But, hell, you all knew that. You're all just baiting me to get me to state the obvious. I've got to quit being so easily led to foolishness. :( Len --- - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: PUG 2003 Themes > What does "Professional" mean? (Heck, I'm a professional, but not in > photography.) > > Thanks, > > Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
TO BAD IT DOES NOT ACCEPT PENTAX GLASS BOB RAPP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out On 15 Nov 2001, at 14:19, Rob Brigham wrote: > And at $6500 US! > > This is inside the tantaive price spoken by Pentax for the MZ-D. Hi Rob, Pentax never made claims about the price, the figure that was floating about was a speculated price only based on the cost of one off CCD purchase that was printed in one of the French photo magazines. > Sounds like Pentax had a change of heart then, because the sensor is > obviously available, and it can be done for the money that was rumoured. The CCD has been confirmed to be unavailable as per Mark Roberts reports to the list, the information is straight from Philips AFAIK. > Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! This you can shout from the roof tops as soon as the Contax Digital hits the streets, but it ain't there yet. And I would guess if it even does get there then they are building using pre-purchased CCD stock (hence limited numbers) or some component that we know nothing of? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: digital pixels, etc...
Thursday, November 15, 2001, 6:27:07 PM, Robert wrote: RH> William Robb wrote: >> Find something else to talk about. RH> Why? This is so much fun. RH> Bob Cause you are hijacking "my" thread... I didn't want to start another "discussion" - only future will tell, and it really doesn't matter to me. Silver will stay, even if for lovers of the medium like us. I won't mind working in digital when it reaches level of film (I mean the cameras. I want to have a digital which will be usable for at least half the years of my K2DMD... And if we will have to coat our own Hp5+, so be it... Now please let's talk it elsewhere. Frantisek BTW, what I asked about in the first place, thanks for all the responses about digital output in the print. They were very helpful. I am seriously thinking about a cheaper digital for commercial pictures which are not "worth" film (please undestand that the photographic market in Czech republic is very small and pretty saturated. And photogrpahy is often quite a lot underpaid. So often the profit margin for normal news pictures on external basis is pretty, well, marginal. Company banquets pay much better, but are not much interesting...) Thanks! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: EI-2000 - questions and sample pics PLEASE
Thursday, November 15, 2001, 6:55:48 AM, Mike wrote: MJ> Len wrote: >> Except, perhaps, for the Olympus E-10 and E-20n which SLRs with >> manual zoom, and will zoom just as fast as you want. They're >> priced a lot lower than Nikon and Canon SLR digitals. DPReview >> is a good place to read about them. MJ> I would kill to own one of these Although it's OT, I have used the E-10 for a while, borrowed from a friend PJ. The manual zoom ring is great, indeed. Only the viewfinder seemed too dim to me (probably because of the beam-splitter arangement, and the smaller virtual image which needs to be more magnified in the finder). I also thought it would have better finder display (it was old design, much like SFXn age bodies - no bargraph like in Z1 or MZ-5n, only aperture+speed+infocus indicator). Otherwise, a great tool. Anything below it is either slow or LCD-pseudo-slr (I had a look at one of those, with homecamera-like lcd finder, and it was completely unusable. They used some outdated lcd in the finder, so it was so "grainy" and unsharp, even worse than your ordinary DV cam finder. I expected something like in Betacams or professional S-VHS cameras (big, B&W, super-resolution finder, with high visibility from apart, and almost real resolution) BTW, I heard that Olympus will make a SLR with interchangeable lenses based on E10? E20 is pretty shitty wrt noise, I heard. I am looking forward to the Pentax digital, even if I can't afford it ;-) Frantisek BTW, thanks for all the help about EI-2000. If I have some direct question, I know where to ask :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 2nd day of photoschool
Well, if they put them into full auto mode, the pictures should be pretty sharp and well exposed. The days of photography courses that insist on fully manual cameras for the students are pretty much over. I've seen messages posted here that support doing that because it frees the mind to concentrate on the subject and the composition. I never argue with folks that say things like that because they are entitled to their point of view. And, lately, I've been concentrating on avoiding trivial arguments. Bear with me though, because sometimes I forget. :) Len --- - Original Message - From: "Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: 2nd day of photoschool > Well I never thought people could be such Lemmings but > now I'm convinced that they are. The instructor uses a > Nikon 3hp and several old Ricohs so what do the other > students decide to buy for their first SLR? since you > can't get Ricohs new they invaded Henry's and Vistek > buying the most expensive Nikons they can afford. One > got a F5, most others got F80's or F65's with 28-80 or > 28-105 zoom lenses on them. I was having a field day > watching these new N owners trying to figure out their > cameras while the first class assignment called for > bracketing with a 50mm on slide film, I can't wait to > see their results ( or lack of ). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: digital pixels, etc...
Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 5:31:30 PM, Tom wrote: TR> I do not have experience submitting digital photos to a newspaper, but I do TR> know that most such photos have been taken with a 2000-2500 ppi SLR such as TR> the Kodak DCS *20 series or the Canon D30. In fact the old AP2000 was a 2000 TR> ppi Camera (historical note: The AP2000 was made for the Associated Press by TR> Kodak. It is the ancestor of all the Kodak DCS Cameras). Wow, I would like to see it. Very early technology is most times very interesting or nice. TR> 133 line screen for a newspaper? My how quality has improved over the years. TR> I would have thought that newsprint paper could not sustain such a fine TR> screen. My mistake - I was talking about better paper than the usuall news rags. Of course grayscale newspapers are about 80 lpi screen. Though, I _do_ think when I counted the part-colour part-grayscale dailies we have (I _hate_ colour dailies - it takes out the seriousness... long live FAZ!), I counted about 133 lpi in the colour photos and the usual 80 lpi in the grayscale. I will have a look at it again,... [away from keyboard, measuring with my trusted Brüder Henn-Wien 50x typog loupe] I found 5 dots per mm, equating ~127-130 dots per inch. That's about the usual 133 lpi, or did I get something wrong? Its on normal newsprint paper (though, what is "normal" news paper - this paper is less rags more paper it seems than the usuall all-rags of 10 years back), although looking a little better. Grayscale photos are still ~80 lpi. (sorry, this was pretty OT) TR> But your math is fine, your image needs 1.5 to 2.0 times the resolution of TR> your halftone screen. TR> --graywolf Thanks! When using only 1.5x resolution, is there much quality loss visible (I know it depends on more factors, and even less countable like author or viewer...)? I ask because I fell in love with a S(Z)LR digicam, with only 1.5MP res - a Sony DSC D700 (Sony! Even more Off Topic! Sorry). Even though I don't know how much it costs or costed (or even how old is it)... manual zooming and 28-140mm/2-2.4 lens are big pluses! Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax 200mm f/4 macro
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:29:10 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >I have the chance to get a 200 f/4 macro lens, but I have no clue what a >reasonable >price for this lens is. Can anyone help? > The Pentax A* 200/4 ED IF macro sold new for $950 US at B&H and other repuitable mail-order companies. It always held its value well on the second hand market. I've rarely seen them for sale second-hand, and the two or three I've seen sold were priced a little over $800. I don't have any info handy on the newest Pentax AF 200/4 macro. They are both great lenses. I have first hand knowledge of two samples of the A* 200/4 Macro, and I trust some glowing reports on PDML for the FA* version. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax 200mm f/4 macro
I am ~assuming~ that you are talking about the A* 200mm f4 macro (not the new FA*). The A* version comes up rarely on e-bay and they seem to sell for around $850 U.S. That is aproximately what I paid for mine in like-new condition with a soft case and a B+W UV filter attached. Mind you, though, that my high bid was a good bit higher than that, and I gladly would have paid more. This is because I specifically wanted the manual focus version for its tactile finess. Keep in mind that B&H photo advertises the new FA* version for about $1,350. (http://www01.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___222164___PE2004MFA___REG___CatID=0___SID=EA67B1DD1A0) Take this into consideration when making your decision. They are ~not~ optically identical, and I have no idea how the FA* compares to the A*. Also keep in mind that the A* version is not often available, so if you are a fan of the A series lenses, sieze the moment! Hope this helps. -Jonathan- > Hi, > > I have the chance to get a 200 f/4 macro lens, but I > have no clue what a > reasonable > price for this lens is. Can anyone help? > > Frank Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Photocritique.net posting
Thanks for the kind words, Gianfranco. I agree -- that wood in the background bothers me a bit too. Amazing how much 210mm will compress foreground and background. Would have liked to get closer to the girls and use a wider lens, but I didn't dare distract them any more that I already was. :-) Also wished I could have caught one of them with a head turned toward the camera. It was a fun and relaxing shoot, and I got several I was pleased with. Thanks again! Take care, Bill Peifer Rochester, NY > -Original Message- > From: Gianfranco Irlanda [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: New Photocritique.net posting > > Hi Bill, > > It's really a wonderful shot! > If I have to find something to critique, the girl dressed in red > suffers from the dark wooden truss (?) in the background right > over her head, which is a bit disturbing, but it's almost > splitting hairs... > > Well done! > > Gianfranco - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG 2003 Themes
- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: PUG 2003 Themes Okay, Bill: What does "Digital" mean? All photos submitted to PUG have been digitized. I dunno, it was just a word that popped into my head. What does "Professional" mean? (Heck, I'm a professional, but not in photography.) That was Doug Brewer's idea. Lets ask him shall we?? Remember, 2003 will be the year of irreverence. Also, nothing really is cast in stone. I changed a bunch of 2002 themes because they were too equipment specific. If these ideas meet with catcalls and thrown vegetables, I am open to yet more theme sugestions. The Cliché theme stays P.S. I thought Synchronicity was being dropped. The nice thing about this job, I get to change my mind about a few things. We will be 18 months between Equinox galleries. I like the communityness of the Synchronicity gallery concept. William Robb PUG Gallery Maintainer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
On 15 Nov 2001, at 8:58, Cory or Brenda Waters wrote: > Just a poll: > Where do you buy your film? L&P Photographics in Artarmon (North Sydney), good prices and plenty of big fridges but shipping might be a little expensive for you though. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
On 15 Nov 2001, at 14:19, Rob Brigham wrote: > And at $6500 US! > > This is inside the tantaive price spoken by Pentax for the MZ-D. Hi Rob, Pentax never made claims about the price, the figure that was floating about was a speculated price only based on the cost of one off CCD purchase that was printed in one of the French photo magazines. > Sounds like Pentax had a change of heart then, because the sensor is > obviously available, and it can be done for the money that was rumoured. The CCD has been confirmed to be unavailable as per Mark Roberts reports to the list, the information is straight from Philips AFAIK. > Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! This you can shout from the roof tops as soon as the Contax Digital hits the streets, but it ain't there yet. And I would guess if it even does get there then they are building using pre-purchased CCD stock (hence limited numbers) or some component that we know nothing of? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
R: Miracles happens
Albano wrote: > The police asked some more data, a handshake and I went back to work with the > biggest smile and happiness you can imagine I hope that among the data there wasn't your address! And then: > / Thanks. We have a football cheer song that claims "Policia > Federal, la verguenza nacional" (federal police, national shame) Albano, you're lucky the shop was in Capital Federal: if the policeman was a Bonaerense one, you know, he would have stolen the gear from you just out of the shop... Bravo! fabio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Photocritique.net posting
Hi Bill, It's really a wonderful shot! If I have to find something to critique, the girl dressed in red suffers from the dark wooden truss (?) in the background right over her head, which is a bit disturbing, but it's almost splitting hairs... Well done! Gianfranco - Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: New Photocritique.net posting > Hi all, > > http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?zzn33n-p15121403 > > As always, comments and criticisms appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill Peifer > Rochester, NY Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG 2003 Themes
Okay, Bill: What does "Digital" mean? All photos submitted to PUG have been digitized. What does "Professional" mean? (Heck, I'm a professional, but not in photography.) Thanks, Joe P.S. I thought Synchronicity was being dropped. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Photocritique.net posting
Hi all, http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?zzn33n-p15121403 As always, comments and criticisms appreciated. Thanks in advance, Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Low budget WA?
On Thursday, November 15, 2001, at 02:40 PM, Delano Mireles wrote: > Along the same lines, I just saw on BH a Sigma 24mm 2.8 - any comments > on > this as well? I have the manual focus one and I'm quite fond of it. Flare control isn't great (even with the dinky hood), but it's nice and sharp. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX??=3 F
> Bill Owens wrote: > > >MacBurt wrote: > >> WHY CAN"T WE LOOK LIKE THIS??? > > > > BECAUSE DOUG DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME OR FUNDS TO DO THIS. > > NOT BAD BILL BUT YOU SHOULDA USED SOME EXCLAMATION MARKS!!! > > -- > Mark Roberts > www.robertstech.com Darn, I knew I forgot something :-) BTW Mark, I'm looking forward to your presentation next Spring. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
i buy from the film shop in new york. fuji reala mostly. when you buy $100.00 worth the shipping is free. delivery is about two days . Received: from smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id D872C1082; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from noc002.aitg.com (noc002.aitg.com [216.32.91.72]) by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 358661629 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:33:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by noc002.aitg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA12315 for pentax-discuss-pdml-list; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail5.carolina.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by noc002.aitg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA12310 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hppav ([24.88.170.127]) by mail5.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:11:45 -0500 Message-ID: <004601c16df7$ee6f3620$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <001301c16ddd$abda6060$a244d6d1@corywate> <009801c16ded$71fbf920$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: where to buy film Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:34:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Just a poll: > > Where do you buy your film? Usually Camera World of Charlotte, unless I need something and don't feel like driving 50 miles roundtrip. In which case it's usually Gold 200 wherever I happen to be. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: where to buy film
Juan J. Buhler wrote: >When you have problems with an order, B&H is usually excellent. This certainly hasn't been my experience of them. when they had a problem verifying a credit card of mine once, they delayed my shipment for nearly a week and were extremely rude and unhelpful, especially when I refused to photocopy and fax my card to them, (I did offer to give alternative details and they ignored that until the third attempt at offering). I rarely use them now, only if I cant get what I need form Adorama, and B&H have it in stock. G! it's getting me all wound up thinking about it. Regards, /\/\ick... ++ || __/) Mick Maguire | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (_/) ICQ: 48609010 | \/ | \ /---+ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Miracles happens
Some answers to great PDMLers: Mark Roberts wrote: Congratulations Albano! Great story (and a happy ending, no less) Thanks, Mark. Tom C wrote: Glad you got your LX back! Good you stood your ground. Too bad there's jerks out there like that. Makes you wonder if some of the police aren't splitting the take with the pawn shop owners. You can bet your whole year's salary this is the way they go. Juan wrote: It only makes you wonder that if you're not from Buenos Aires. If you are from there, you *know* the cops split the take with the thieves. :-( Good for Albano, in any case. Argentino who knows the way they work here. Gracias por la onda, Juan. Gianfranco wrote: Hi Albano, Good news indeed! Remember what you wrote then? "I went to the police, and now, if I see the camera in a store, I can claim for it. Probabilities are low, but exist." You did evoke that! I'm really happy for you. Now you'd probably better be careful to avoid to pass around Libertad for a while... Ciao, / Thanks Gianfranco, and yes, I'll avoid this place for a long long time (I'm not going to buy nothing here, as I never did. Everybody knows here they are trash). Cory wrote: WO H!! I'd have bet you a dollar that this wouldn't have happened. BUT It's YOUR tenacity that got your camera back. GOOD JOB man!!! Many others would have let it go. I'm glad for you :) Cory Waters wondering how long it would take to catalog all the serial numbers of everything I'd not like to lose. / Thanks, Cory. And take note of every serial number you have. I've learned the lesson. DO IT NOW. Cotty wrote: Well done Albano - you did it! I admire you for sticking to your principles in a tricky situation. Now for f.'s sake stay away from bad guys with guns! / Thanks a lot, Cotty. And living here in Buenos Aires, it's very hard to stay away from them. :-( Bob wrote: And ... Insure the stuff!!! I lost out on a blad w/lenses plus 2 spotmaitcs and a swag of gear 30 years ago. That was a dear lesson and my stuff has been fully insured since. Yes, I'll if I can. It's not easy to insure this kind of stuff here. My friend was insured, but it was because his father has a huge insurance covering houses, cars, country states, etc. I'll try to insure my stuff if I can. Thanks. anand wrote: wow albano, i too am happy you got your camera back. i really wish you could have your 100 mm lens too. / Thanks, Believe I'm more than happy recovering the more important item. David S. wrote: Great to read your good news & glad our cops aren't as crooked as yours seem to be. / Thanks. We have a football cheer song that claims "Policia Federal, la verguenza nacional" (federal police, national shame) Tom R. wrote: Good for you. - --graywolf - - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. / Thanks, Tom. Great phrase too! Carlos Royo wrote: Well done, Albano, and congratulations. Besides of being lucky, you need guts to do what you did. Cheers, / Gracias Carlos. John Coyle wrote: Very glad for you Albano - it must have been heart-stopping moment when you realised it was your LX! I have never been lucky enough to get any of mine back! Who buys this bent stuff anyway - certainly not PDML'ers... / It was a feeling I'll remember all my life. And yes, I never do and never will buy stuuf from this guys. Kevin wrote: I lost my MZ-30 and some lenses and about 6 months back. I have since replaced it with a MZ-S put I do but I would still like it back. It is heartening to here your story. Thanks Kevin. I hope you recover them sometime just as I did. All the best. Thanks to all, note your serial nos., insure your stuff, take care and ENJOY Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
In a message dated 11/15/01 1:52:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I don't use flash. So, with that in mind, would you suggest an 800 > speed film over a 400 speed film? I never heard of a faster film > "neutralizing" color cast. Why is that? > I suggested an 800 speed film with a "pop" of flash in that flash (at daylight temperatures) allows for a more true representation of prime colors than letting the ambient light decide what you will see. Flash also "separates" the subject [detail] from the background. The flash effect itself can be as little as 1/25th (four stops under and still give a pleasing effect. You might test a flash indoors to see what I mean. Slower films (ISO 400 or slower), let more of the orange-red spectrum in (onto the film) (or something like that). Faster films don't. **Someone who can explain the technical side of light can be more specific. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: CD-RW Question
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" < Subject: Re: OT: CD-RW Question > Very true. There's a lot to be said for having a local place to go to when > something goes wrong. But there are alternatives to CompUSA. There are plenty of > small, independent copmuter shops around; you just have to dig a bit (or ask > around) to find *good* ones. I've found a good one here in Rochester. I mainly > buy memory and CPUs from them because they know me well enough to believe me > when I have a problem (a mail order place will usually insist you damaged it > during installation and you're SOL). We don't have CompUSA up here, but we do have a couple of cheap and dirty computer outfits that run nationwide big boxes. My experience to date is that they sell nicely specified crap. Sure, the machine I just bought used from a friend (a Techtronics built for the Canucks in the crowd) has a PIII 667 chipset, so is fairly fast, but it came with a crapola video card, a junk sound card and an ugly monitor. The system BIOS is good, but the motherboard is garbage. I am hoping the case it came in doesn't have a flakey power supply. So far, I have replaced ~everything~ other than the box and motherboard. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX??=3 F
Bill Owens wrote: >MacBurt wrote: >> WHY CAN"T WE LOOK LIKE THIS??? > > BECAUSE DOUG DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME OR FUNDS TO DO THIS. NOT BAD BILL BUT YOU SHOULDA USED SOME EXCLAMATION MARKS!!! -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Low budget WA?
Along the same lines, I just saw on BH a Sigma 24mm 2.8 - any comments on this as well? thanks, Delano > From: Delano Mireles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:30:11 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Low budget WA? > > With a couple of birthday's on the horizon and Christmas around the corner > the budget is a little tight but I'm constantly looking for a little more > "space" in certain shots. > > Does anyone have any experience with the 19mm Vivitar? I realize this by > far no pro lens but it "affords" me a wider angle than my current 28mm > limit. > > Thanks for any replies > > D > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
Jim... Have you shopped at Citizen's Photo for film? I'm curious to see how their prices compare to B&H. Obviously B&H will be cheaper, but by how much? t On 11/15/01 6:27 AM, Jim Apilado wrote: > I purchase all my wedding film (Fuji) from B & H in NYC. Heck. Let's say I > buy most of my film from them. Locally, Portland OR, I like to buy the 12 > exposure rolls of Fujicolor from Ritz Camera. Short of bulk loading B&W > film, I wish I could get BW film in 12 exposures. > > Jim A. > >> From: "Cory or Brenda Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:58:57 -0500 >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: where to buy film >> >> Just a poll: >> Where do you buy your film? >> >> Cory Waters >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
One vote for B&H... On 11/15/01 5:58 AM, Cory or Brenda Waters wrote: > Just a poll: > Where do you buy your film? > > Cory Waters > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Low budget WA?
With a couple of birthday's on the horizon and Christmas around the corner the budget is a little tight but I'm constantly looking for a little more "space" in certain shots. Does anyone have any experience with the 19mm Vivitar? I realize this by far no pro lens but it "affords" me a wider angle than my current 28mm limit. Thanks for any replies D - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers (and taking their pictures)
Sheesh, first Shel looks like Hannibal Lecter, now Gianfranco turns out to look like Stanley Kubrick! Why can't I look like Tom Cruise? Why why WHY? -Aaron who looks more like Ed from Barenaked Ladies - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Digital Print Challenge (was Tom 's digital challenge)
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Bob Walkden wrote: > good story. Which scanner, printer, paper and ink/pigment did he > eventually choose? Yes, tell us Mike! Some of us also shoot a Leica with 50mm Summicron, and would like to know what's better to print digitally than the piezo setup! Piezo prints also look better the bigger they are. I agree with the reasons you give, whatever inkject artifacts become less important as the print size increases. j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Cory or Brenda Waters wrote: > Just a poll: > Where do you buy your film? Usually at B&H in New York. The last order went to filmshop.com, which was a bit cheaper than B&H. Service was just as good, but I didn't have any problems. When you have problems with an order, B&H is usually excellent. I usually get about 20 rolls of Tri-X, 20 Neopan SS, 10 Neopan 1600, and maybe something else to try. The last time it was a brick of Ilford XP2. j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Meeting PDMLers, here they are!
Sorry Netscape users. I just fixed it, and checked the page on Netscape for Win2000. The URL, again, is http://www.jbuhler.com/html/pdml.html (not that the pictures are really worth all that anticipation) Apologies, j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX???
> WHY CAN"T WE LOOK LIKE THIS??? BECAUSE DOUG DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME OR FUNDS TO DO THIS. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers (and taking their pictures)
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: > Juan J. Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.jbuhler/com/html/pdml.hmtl > > Hi Juan, > > Are you sure the URL is correct? I'm not able to open the page. > Am I doing something wrong? Sorry, my mistake. Make that slash a dot: > > http://www.jbuhler.com/html/pdml.hmtl j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers , Where Are They?
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, tom wrote: > They work on IE, not netscape. > > The end of the table and the body seem not to be coded... Oh gosh, I always do that. Sorry guys. I'll fix it right away. Ever since I switched to Opera I end up not realizing when I have unfinished tables in my pages... Give me a few minutes... j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX???
START START START START In a message dated 11/15/01 7:43:20 AM, MacBurt writes: Several times I've written and asked why this site cannot use a numbered index. It is easier to look at a numbered index and then find a numbered entry. It is easier then attempting to read similiar entries from a long list, unnumbered. WHY CAN"T WE LOOK LIKE THIS??? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Leonids (Rob Miracle) 2. Thom Hogan's "The Nikon Flash Guide" (Paul McKenney) 3. 80-400 for safari? VR and 1.4x converter, VR and monopods (Eliot Nierman) 4. AI lens conversion (Robert Zuch) 5. RE: 80-400 for safari? VR and 1.4x converter, VR and mono pods (Robert Fately) 6. Nikon Flash Guide UK (James Grove) 7. RE: 80-400 for safari? VR and 1.4x converter, VR and monopods (Jon Grant) 8. Re: Nikon Flash Guide UK (Alexander) 9. nimh in F801 (Long Stewart) 10. earthquake OT (Jonathan Levy) 11. Re: Leonids (Jeff Stocki) 12. RE: Nikon Flash Guide UK (James Grove) 13. Re: loading IR film in sunlight (Andreas Fischer) 14. re:NiMH batteries in F801s (or any other camera) (RIBNITZ Robert) 15. finally - full frame digital camera! (Alexander) 16. Re: Re: Omni-bounce (Mike S) 17. Re: Re: loading IR film in sunlight (Fred Michaels) 18. Re: Re: Omni-bounce (Jack Casner) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:41:37 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rob Miracle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Nikon] Leonids Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:44 PM 11/14/2001 -0700, Alan K Unangst wrote: >The Leonids meteor showers start today in the U.S.. If anyone knows how to >shoot them I would appreciate the help. Please E-mail directly. I need a >slight diversion and this would be a good one. I will be using an F5 as >well as an FA. Actually, the peak time is Saturday 11/18 around 5am EST. Normally Sky & Telescope's web site (www.skypub.com) has a a link on how to photograph them in simple terms. The best source for astrophotography information is "Astrophotography for the Amateur" by Michael A. Covington. Cambridge University Press ISBN 0-521-62740-0. Basically you are going to make a time exposure of a star field. You can guide your camera so that your stars won't trail or not guide it and have some star trails and hope a meteor crosses the field while the shutter is open. You need a 35mm camera with a 50mm or wider angle lens. You need a tripod and a cable release that opens.Any film 200 speed or faster will work. With astrophotography you are trying to capture minute amounts of light. If your film is too slow, then it won't record anything. If its too fast sky glow will nuke your pictures. Put the camera on the tripod, open it up to the lens's fastest setting (Covington suggests not opening up any faster than F1.7... I personally would stop down one from wide open Your mileage may vary), aim it at the expected radiant (in the case of the Leonids, at the constellation Leo). "Expose for several minutes or until a bright meteor passes through the field." quoting from the book. Shoot a lot of shots and different lengths. Now assuming a 50mm lens pointed at Leo, your longest exposure with out significant star trails is around 20 - 25 seconds.Depending on where you are, 25 seconds may pick up significant fog from city lights. Since you are going to be making time exposures, your FA will be a better choice than your F5 since the F5 sucks battery power when the shutter is open. Your not going to need any metering or auto exposure. You need manual exposure set for infinity. Take a lounge chair, a blanket and lay back and enjoy. Rob Thanks, Rob -- Rob Miracle Photographic Miracles 203 Carpenter Brook Dr. Apex, NC 27502 http://www.photo-miracles.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Paul McKenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:03:03 -0500 Subject: [Nikon] Thom Hogan's "The Nikon Flash Guide" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I ordered it from Amazon last week, and it arrived yesterday at my Michigan office. From my initial review, it is superior to anything else on the market. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:33:50 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eliot Nierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Nikon] 80-400 for safari? VR and 1.4x converter, VR and monopods Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the opportunity to go on a safari in Africa I was thinking of getting the new 80-400 VR to use with my F100. Would this be a good choice? If so, does VR work with 1.4x converter? (I know it doesn't with Nikon but thought it did with some other good brands.) Does VR work with a monopod? If so any recommendations of one to use with lens and is a ball head needed? If so, any recommendations for that? Thanks in advance. Sorry to put so many questions into one email. Eliot etc. etc. etc. WHY CAN"T WE LOOK LIKE THIS??? Thank you, Burt Yust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where do you buy film?
I usually buy from New York, either B&H (www.bhphotovideo.com) or Adorama (www.adorama.com). I have to pay about $6 ups charges, but you can save far more than that if buying a reasonable amount (I usually get at least 10 rolls at a time, usually 20 and stash it in the fridge). For me it's mainly cost and selection that make me mail order. My local pro camera shop has a good selection too, (but not as good as those two). The trouble is they charge up to double the price. HTH Regards, /\/\ick... ++ || __/) Mick Maguire | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (_/) ICQ: 48609010 | \/ | \ /---+ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where do you buy film? I usually buy around here where I live. The most important thing is which film to use. Currently I am going back and forth between Kodak TMAX 100 and Ilford FP4 125. Cannot decide which one to stick to. I don't really have that much experience with either since I am just getting into photography. So I will ask you guys, which of the two do you prefer and why? Also I might be able to get a scanner so I need you opinion on which brand and model is best for around $500. Sorry my budget is very low but those of you with kids will understand. I do know that getting a film scanner will be very expensive so I am resorting to just the plain scanner. Thanks for the advice. They are always appreciated. Francis M. Alviar Irvine, CA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Hi, The way I read the article, the camera is not yet "out" but will be available in February. Let's see if it actually hits the stores and will find its way into the hands of consumers. Mike Johnston wrote: > > The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel > Philips CCD. See: > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers (and taking their pictures)
No pics on my system Bill Owens wrote: > > Gosh, I had no idea Shel was even bigger than I am. > > This works: > > > > http://www.jbuhler.com/html/pdml.html > > > > Gianfranco -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tele-Takumar 300 f6.3
Thanks for that tidbit. I found it strange that the lens was so light. When I get home I will have to look at the specs of the 300 f/4 Takumar and compare. I do not see myself using the lens much, but then again you never know. But there was no way I was going to walk away from it. It looks great attached to a camera. I may just put it on a tripod with my Spotmatic or S1a and just have it standing in the living room. A, the advantages of being single César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida in Hollywood, Florida > -Original Message- > From: Paul M. Provencher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Tele-Takumar 300 f6.3 > > The lens was billed as a price-advantaged, compact alternative to the 300 > f/4 Takumar and was sold at the same time as the Super > Takumar. It takes a smaller filter if memory serves correctly, and other > than that, everything that Mike Steele said is true! > > ppro > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Steele > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:16 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Tele-Takumar 300 f6.3 > > > > > > > > Hi Cesar, > > You are correct. The lens is called a "pre-set" lens. > > I suppose it is a step back from "automatic aperture" > > lenses, in that it is a manual process, but I kind of > > enjoy it. It does require a slower, more deliberate > > approach to photographybut then if you have an SV > > (as I do)...you already know that! Enjoy! Mike > > Steele > > > > --- "Matamoros, Cesar A." > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To keep a long story short... I was in a store on > > > Sunday that is an > > > antique mall. One store front with numerous > > > vendors. A few vendors had > > > some old cameras. One had a Ricoh with a Pentax-A > > > 50/2 on it. > > > > > > This same vendor had a Tele-Takumar 300mm f 6.3 > > > with caps, hood, > > > case and tripod mount. I returned to inspect it > > > yesterday. I could not > > > turn it down. It is not mint. Probabloy paid too > > > much. It shows some use > > > but is clean. I have already put it on the SV to > > > check its operational > > > feel. I probably will not be able to try it with > > > film until I get down to > > > Miami. > > > > > > I also put it on an adapter and tried it on an LX. > > > A totally > > > different feel than the A* 300/4. I am assuming > > > that the one ring sets the > > > working aperture and the other sets it once you are > > > done focusing. Is this > > > correct? > > > > > > Just had to tell someone, > > > > > > Cesar > > > > > > P.S. Any thoughts on this lens? > > > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tele-Takumar 300 f6.3
> -Original Message- > From: Bill D. Casselberry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Tele-Takumar 300 f6.3 > > Paul wrote: > > > It takes a smaller filter if memory serves correctly, and other > > than that, everything that Mike Steele said is true! > > I'm sure the filter is smaller, my 1963 version 300mm f4 > Takumar takes 82mm filters! I have the matching 200mm f5.6 > Tele-Takumar (my first Pentax lens @ US$50 w/ case, hood&caps) > and it is a nice sharp lens. Also a pre-set, w/ 49mm filters. > > Bill > > - > Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast > > http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Bill, I don't have calipers with me. But based on what is written on the hood and comparing with a 52mm lens cap the size appears to be a 58mm. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida in Hollywood, Florida - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers (and taking their pictures)
Gosh, I had no idea Shel was even bigger than I am. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This works: > > http://www.jbuhler.com/html/pdml.html > > Gianfranco - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Although I'll never buy one I like the looks, sort of like a digital Maxxum 9. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Johnston Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel Philips CCD. See: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers , Where Are They?
Hi Dick, That's strange, I have no problems with the photos. You are not able to see even the thumbnails? There should be 14 of them. Gianfranco - Original Message - From: dick graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Meeting PDMLers , Where Are They? > I get it to open but I can't find the PDMLers pics. Where are they? > > DG > > > At 03:34 AM 11/15/01 -0800, you wrote: > >This works: > > > >http://www.jbuhler.com/html/pdml.html > > > >Gianfranco Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Rob Brigham wrote: > And at $6500 US! > > Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! What's new? :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Digital SLR?
More fun would be an M39>M42 and an M42>K plus the AF 1.7x AF and have autofocus Leica lenses on a Pentax body. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Brogden Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital SLR? On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > What's the latest rumor on a Pentax digital SLR? > Cant wait to mount my SMCTs on that baby. And if I can find an M37-M42 adapter, I'll couple that with the M42-K adapter and the AF1.7x teleconverter to get an autofocus Asahiflex lens on a digital SLR body. Should be fun. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film for ballet performance
800 ASA and no tripod >From: "Maris V. Lidaka, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Film for ballet performance >Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:39:16 -0600 > >My niece is performing in Chicago this weekend (Friday, so I'm looking for >help today Thursday) - a small YMCA auditorium, I don't know what the >lighting will be but I guess whatever is usual for stages. > >No flash of course: Should I use 400 speed film or faster? Bring a >tripod? > >Any recommendations of negative film type? I have Kodak Supra 400 on hand >but I can buy something else tomorrow. > >Maris >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
Cory or Brenda Waters wrote: > Just a poll: > Where do you buy your film? B&H or Adorama. Of course, I can visit them -- I don't know if I would want to use mail order these days, with the threat of irradiation of mail coming up. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: digital pixels, etc...
Mike Johnston wrote: [snip] I have in my own collection several LARGE prints... > (larger than 11x14) that look superb. > > A photorealistic printer in this day and age costs $200-$300. The Epson C80, > the Canon S600. Both capable of gorgeous output up on up to letter size > sheets. Certainly large enough to replace Jack and Jill's drugstore 4x6's. > > I'm wondering if your experience of digital isn't a bit out of date Mike: Further support for your position. I have an acquaintance -- I regret that I do not know his name, we have crossed paths at a restaurant we both frequent for a few years and chat but never have been formally introduced -- who was a photojournalist, now retired from that but still doing photography. First of his prints that I saw were flowers shot against a black background. Vivid, highly saturated, sharp, etc. I thought they probably were cibachromes from Velvia -- but no, all shot with a digital camera and printed on an Epson 1270, size 11x14 (I believe, I didn't measure them). Seems he gave up film a while ago. More recently I saw some shots he took shortly after 9/11 at the WTC site, where he somehow got the cops to let him in. Also large prints, sharp with saturated color, no jagglies, etc. I couldn't tell them from good C-prints. (One of them appeared as the front cover of a recent issue of a digital imaging mag, which had several others inside.) I do not know what digital camera he uses but suspect it is top of the line. (I saw it once but did not inspect it closely -- but it is not one of the compact units.) And he knows what he is doing in processing -- he also teaches courses on using Photoshop part time. His work demonstrated to me that with the best of today's equipment and with enough knowledge and, I suppose, lots of practice, excellent final products are possible. Makes it clear to me that the future is digital. Bob Harris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Meeting PDMLers , Where Are They?
I get it to open but I can't find the PDMLers pics. Where are they? DG At 03:34 AM 11/15/01 -0800, you wrote: >This works: > >http://www.jbuhler.com/html/pdml.html > >Gianfranco > > >--- Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Juan J. Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.jbuhler/com/html/pdml.hmtl > > > > Hi Juan, > > > > Are you sure the URL is correct? I'm not able to open the > > page. > > Am I doing something wrong? > > > > Ciao, > > > > Gianfranco > > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > > http://personals.yahoo.com >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals >http://personals.yahoo.com >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: where to buy film
I buy all my Velvia and Provia at the local camera store... Christian Skofteland > -Original Message- > From: Cory or Brenda Waters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Just a poll: > Where do you buy your film? > > Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
I purchase all my wedding film (Fuji) from B & H in NYC. Heck. Let's say I buy most of my film from them. Locally, Portland OR, I like to buy the 12 exposure rolls of Fujicolor from Ritz Camera. Short of bulk loading B&W film, I wish I could get BW film in 12 exposures. Jim A. > From: "Cory or Brenda Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:58:57 -0500 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: where to buy film > > Just a poll: > Where do you buy your film? > > Cory Waters > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
And at $6500 US! This is inside the tantaive price spoken by Pentax for the MZ-D. Sounds like Pentax had a change of heart then, because the sensor is obviously available, and it can be done for the money that was rumoured. Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! > -Original Message- > From: Mike Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 November 2001 13:50 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out > > > The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel > Philips CCD. See: > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp > > --Mike > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Attn Tom Rittenhouse - I accept your challenge
Aaron Reynolds wrote: > On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 08:24 PM, Bill Owens wrote: > > > And will meet you at 12:00 Noon on Friday, November 16, 2001 at Camera > > World > > with my 4x6 digital print that is equal to or better than the average > > minilab print. > > Cue the music from "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly". Make it high noon and I'll be there with a point-and-shoot strapped to my hip, can't miss with those! Norm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX??=3 F
MacBurt wrote: >Several times I've written and asked why this site cannot use a numbered >index. It is easier to look at a numbered index and then find a numbered >entry. It is easier then attempting to read similiar entries from a long >list, unnumbered. List maintainer Doug Brewer answered you at least once. Basically, it's beyond the constraints imposed by his already stretched time and money budgets for keeping the list going. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina ATX 24-40
In a message dated 15/11/01 10:32:47 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I've been looking at a Tokina AT-X 24-40mm F2.8 to replace some of the primes I own. Is this a good lens? How much is a reasonable price for it? Hiroto >> Hiro Miyama have one listed in their ad this month at 24K, AB. It's Nikon mount but that gives you an idea. Needless to say, we have a couple also. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film for ballet
For slides, EPT or EPJ (do they still make these?), or if no tungsten then possibly Fuji Multispeed. For prints the Fuji Press 800 is admirable. I shot indoor sports on 400-1600asa, lens apertures generally 2.8 and wider. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WARNING: OT: 1000 Points of Order
> John Mustarde wrote: > >> Last Friday I finally got all my 78 rpm records transferred >> to 8-track tapes. So what's next? >> But John, that's a technological step backwards! You should be transferring those 78s to wax cylinders, which are easily listened to with a pin and a piece of paper. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
where to buy film
Just a poll: Where do you buy your film? Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel Philips CCD. See: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Attn Tom Rittenhouse - I accept your challenge
On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 08:24 PM, Bill Owens wrote: > And will meet you at 12:00 Noon on Friday, November 16, 2001 at Camera > World > with my 4x6 digital print that is equal to or better than the average > minilab print. Cue the music from "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly". -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital & BW Photography
On Thursday, November 15, 2001, at 05:21 AM, Bob Rapp wrote: > I'm particularly interested in the responses. I personally think that > digital is a long way from replacing B&W. I doubt that there are many > printers available at any cost that can do justice to the full grey > scale of > a B&W print. I'm interested, too, but I'll tell you what the kicker is here: bigger prints. I am perfectly happy with the results I get on the Epson 7500 using black ink only printing a 35mm Delta 3200 neg at 8x10. On the other hand, an APX 25 neg printed 5x7 looks grainy and the tonal range seems compressed. This is because rather than using different shades of gray, as the quad tone inksets do, the printer just uses one ink: dark black. This leads to patterning resembling grain in smooth mid-tones. However, if the image is not smooth, and the scan reveals detail in the film's grain, the resulting print can be quite excellent (though not equivalent to a fibre based print). I would imagine that a 4000dpi scan from Tri-X could make a nice 11x14. The b&w hockey prints on the wall at the store were done this way. I keep considering moving to quad tone on my old Epson 1200, but I still haven't seen a result that I've been wowed by. And if I'm going to spend $500 on a conversion kit, I want to be wowed. I do find that quite often duotones printed with the full colour inkset look fabulous. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Digital & BW Photography
Bob R. wrote: > I'm particularly interested in the responses. I personally think that > digital is a long way from replacing B&W. I doubt that there are many > printers available at any cost that can do justice to the full grey scale of > a B&W print. You haven't seen enough Piezography prints yet!! --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
