Re: I'm Back
Hi Paul, I wish I could join you guys today, but I`m chained to the yard this weekend, getting 2311 square feet of dirt ready for sod that will be going in next weekend. You guys have fun, and enjoy your stay Paul! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: I'm Back Hi all, I'm still in LA for another five days, but I managed to get my earthlink account working well in the hotel, so I resubscribed. I'm anxious to see what you folks have been talking about. I've had a bit of time for shooting, and have burned about a dozen rolls of 120. I'm meeting Mark Dalal tomorrow morning. We're going to shoot some street stuff and perhaps some surfers in Venice. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
So ... there's nothing there that we didn't know. A big neg beats a small neg in quality. Frankly, I'd have expected better quality from the 6x7. William Robb wrote: Warning, this is about a 500kb download. http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Am I Really a Dinosaur?
100 lines per millimetre is 25.4 x 100 is 2540 lines per inch. Is it OK to say that this could be translated to 2540 ppi, or do I miss something here? Frits Wüthrich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur? Close only counts in horse shoes ... please explain why 4000ppi is the of resolution. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur? Well, I can't argue the point, as I'm not well versed in these things, but that doesn't stop me from having an informed opinion, which is that you're wrong. Actually, he is pretty close to being right. William Robb J. C. O'Connell wrote: 4000ppi is probably better than 35mm can do because the lenses w/ film rarely if ever achive more than 100 lines/mm which would be more like a 2400x3600 pixel image which is only about 8.5 Mpixel. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Would you stop already! :) When I hit the $200 Million Lotto tonight I`m going to get a few of those 67II`s. In the 6X7 detail pic there is something that looks like a fire at the bottom of the right tank, any idea what it is? The detail achieved with the big neg is amazing! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: A little 6x7 enabling Warning, this is about a 500kb download. http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur?
Does anyone ever read my posts? Here is the essense of my previous comments on this. The structure of the image and the resolution of the optical system are not the same thing at all. On film resolution is where the image starts to blur together that blur is sort of analog, that is it blends. Digital images are, well digital, the edges of the pixels are distinct. The point where the digital image begins to appear analog is at least 10 times the resolution limits of the optical system. Which puts you up around that 10K ppi figure I mentioned in another post. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Frits J. Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: RE: Am I Really a Dinosaur? 100 lines per millimetre is 25.4 x 100 is 2540 lines per inch. Is it OK to say that this could be translated to 2540 ppi, or do I miss something here? Frits Wüthrich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur? Close only counts in horse shoes ... please explain why 4000ppi is the of resolution. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur? Well, I can't argue the point, as I'm not well versed in these things, but that doesn't stop me from having an informed opinion, which is that you're wrong. Actually, he is pretty close to being right. William Robb J. C. O'Connell wrote: 4000ppi is probably better than 35mm can do because the lenses w/ film rarely if ever achive more than 100 lines/mm which would be more like a 2400x3600 pixel image which is only about 8.5 Mpixel. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Looks like an irrigation thingy to me. Bill KG4LOV, WPRS983 [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the 6X7 detail pic there is something that looks like a fire at the bottom of the right tank, any idea what it is? The detail achieved with the big neg is amazing! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K mount to 39mm adapters.
Hello to All, Do they make an adapter to fit a 39mm screw mount lens onto a Pentax camera? A Fellow Pentaxian, Ryan Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I'm Back
We've been talking about you, Paul. Thanks for letting us know you are back. har Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: I'm Back Hi all, I'm still in LA for another five days, but I managed to get my earthlink account working well in the hotel, so I resubscribed. I'm anxious to see what you folks have been talking about. I've had a bit of time for shooting, and have burned about a dozen rolls of 120. I'm meeting Mark Dalal tomorrow morning. We're going to shoot some street stuff and perhaps some surfers in Venice. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I'm Back
Thanks Steve, I was hoping to get you out, but maybe next time. I'm still going to try to get up to the canyons before I leave. Can't do it today, however, because I'm on call. Have fun playing in the dirt. Paul Steve Larson wrote: Hi Paul, I wish I could join you guys today, but I`m chained to the yard this weekend, getting 2311 square feet of dirt ready for sod that will be going in next weekend. You guys have fun, and enjoy your stay Paul! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: I'm Back Hi all, I'm still in LA for another five days, but I managed to get my earthlink account working well in the hotel, so I resubscribed. I'm anxious to see what you folks have been talking about. I've had a bit of time for shooting, and have burned about a dozen rolls of 120. I'm meeting Mark Dalal tomorrow morning. We're going to shoot some street stuff and perhaps some surfers in Venice. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bellows 100mm Weird Bokeh
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Bellows 100mm Weird Bokeh William, Not too pretty. What does it look like with a regular image and highlights? Just like that shape? I posted some images to the lens gallery a while back from this lens. It is the screw mount version. I don't have the URL at hand, I lost my bookmarks during the last windows melt down. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
WTB: Bogen Tripod Legs and Head
I know what you mean about the Bogen QR, Nick. I just converted my Bogen QR system to Cullmann. Cullmann plates are smaller and lighter, and will install no matter which direction the plate is aimed. Installing the Bogen QR was always an act of anxiety, though I confess I didn't get how to do it properly until recently, when I realized that you must first cock the lever, rather than to slide in the QR plate in a way that causes it to cock. Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really care for the Bogen Quick-Release system so I'd prefer a head without it. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WTB: Bogen Tripod Legs and Head
Hmmm ... I think it might depend on which head you're using. The head that came with my 3221 had a pretty weak QR, but the 410 head has a nice-sized QR which is solid and secure. Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: I know what you mean about the Bogen QR, Nick. I just converted my Bogen QR system to Cullmann. Cullmann plates are smaller and lighter, and will install no matter which direction the plate is aimed. Installing the Bogen QR was always an act of anxiety, though I confess I didn't get how to do it properly until recently, when I realized that you must first cock the lever, rather than to slide in the QR plate in a way that causes it to cock. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: More Shelf Cleaning
Two lenses for parts/repair Focal 80-200 Mount broken. $5 shipped in US Accura 200mm SM, focus ring loose $5 shipped in US Collin * Get over it. Dr. Laura - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: SMCP 135/2.5
Somehow I ended up with an extra one of these. The glass is perfect, and the cosmetics are fine as well. There is the remnant of a sticker on the front element barrel that I've had some difficulty in removing, although I've been told it can be easily removed with a little patience and some de-gumming stuff, neither of which I have. The downside to this lens is that it needs a lubrication ... there's some looseness in the barrel or front element group. I've seen lenses much worse than this that still make great photos, but, frankly, I'd suggest a CLA for this puppy. With that in mind, the price is low: $70.00 + shipping. If you're interested, please contact me off list. Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bellows 100mm Weird Bokeh
William! As you know, All out of focus shapes are the shape of the aperture as traced by the light source(s) - always. If the light source had been a point source, then the edges of the aperture blades would have been reproduced exactly - save for some minor diffraction. You've not told us what this is a photo of. It appears to be an overexposed photo of an out of focus, non point, possibly near round light source. If the light source was (essentially) round, then you have 8 blades in your aperture on that screw mount lens. I have the K-mount version which has 6 blades. I'm not sure this would actually be called bokeh. It's more a fuzzy picture of the bokeh generator. It would be nice if the star was exposed as gray. That way we could view the light distribution across the aperture. I've noticed that this has more of an effect on the bokeh of many photos than the shape of the aperture. Bokeh (bad, good, neutral, disturbing) is a matter of taste. Regards, Bob... Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event. - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] William, Not too pretty. What does it look like with a regular image and highlights? Just like that shape? Friday, February 15, 2002, 9:07:11 PM, you wrote: WR A couple of days ago, I mentioned the weird aperture shape of WR the Bellows 100mm lens, and the interesting bokeh it gives. WR The first link is a picture of the aperture at f/8, the second WR is an example of the bokeh it produces at that apeture. WR http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Bell100AP.jpg WR http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Bell100bok.jpg - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: flash guns (star blitz 3800)
It'll work like an old fashioned non-ttl flash, i.e. it will just fire at full power. I dont know if the difference in use for the other contacts may have a detrimental effect though. You may get some wierd results on film. Regards, /\/\ick... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: flash guns (star blitz 3800) Hi There I have a 3600 dfni ttl dedicated flash gun for nikon mount (star blitz) I put this on my pz1p and as soon as i fired a shot the flash gun went off. Will this work for this camera or is it the way it is.. Can anyone help Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax a best ever prime lens at Pop?
I haven't read the text yet, but the index doesn't mention an article about the three best primes, and I cannot find an article that refers to the 3 best primes. Is this yet another example of a headline for an article that was pulled before printing? JoMac, Pentaxian It looks like an example of rushed, sloppy magazine production. Some staff were probably talking among themselves about how these lenses gave the highest test results Pop Photo has seen. Then someone in marketing slapped that on the cover. Another example of the right hand not talking to the left. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax a best ever prime lens at Pop?
Are you guys saying that there's no article inside about the best lenses, or just nothing about the pentax lens? Joseph Tainter wrote: It looks like an example of rushed, sloppy magazine production. Some staff were probably talking among themselves about how these lenses gave the highest test results Pop Photo has seen. Then someone in marketing slapped that on the cover. Another example of the right hand not talking to the left. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Several Pentax cameras and other items
These are some Pentax cameras I have for sale, because nowadays they see very little or no use, and I want to sell them to fund other Pentax equipment purchases. This is the first lot: Pentax SFX AF SLR body (like new) + Pentax soft case for the SFX + SMC Pentax-F 35-70 mm. 3.5-4.5 (one of the best standard zooms Pentax has made) + 2 SFX battery grips, one for 2CR5 lithium battery and other for 4 AA batteries (everything is mint, except that one of the plastic tabs of the soft case is missing, but it is perfectly functional) Instruction manual (in Spanish) Everything for 180 euro. Second lot: Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR body + SMC Pentax-F 35-80 mm. 4-5.6 (a fine standard zoom lens) + Fg battery pack (the body and battery pack are like new, the lens is EX+ cosmetically; optically and mechanically it's perfect) Instruction manual for the camera in Spanish, and in English for the battery pack. Everything for 280 euro. Shipping expenses will be paid by the buyer. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: is something wrong with the list ?
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Nitin Garg wrote: It must have been a different problem in my case. University mailboxes dont have notion of full unless the disk gets full if someone else is hogging up all space). Must have been that or network issues. I am online almost all the time and my inbox has very few mails at a time. If it's a university system then it's almost certainly a Unix type mail system and your email is stored in your home directory. If your disk quote is full with other files, you may not have enough room to get more email. Also, your email may be marked read, but still on the disk. The PDML takes up a lot of space on disk. My PDML mailbox is only the last three months and it's 57Mb! dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net Actual war is a very messy business. Very, very messy business. -- Kirk, A Taste of Armageddon, stardate 3193.0 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: For REAL Pentax fans only...
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/collection/ Someone *needs* a polariser very, very badly. dave and a tripod -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net People that can't find something to live for always seem to find something to die for. The problem is, they usually want the rest of us to die for it too. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: is something wrong with the list ?
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:46:14AM +0800, dave o'brien wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Nitin Garg wrote: It must have been a different problem in my case. University mailboxes dont have notion of full unless the disk gets full if someone else is hogging up all space). Must have been that or network issues. I am online almost all the time and my inbox has very few mails at a time. If it's a university system then it's almost certainly a Unix type mail system and your email is stored in your home directory. If your disk there is a seperate system mail partition where incoming mail gets spooled. quote is full with other files, you may not have enough room to get more email. Also, your email may be marked read, but still on the disk. The nopes. I keep my inbox only for unread mails. I move them or delete them to my personal mail folder (ie one in my home directory) as soon as i have read them. PDML takes up a lot of space on disk. My PDML mailbox is only the last three months and it's 57Mb! i delete most of pdml mails, so it takes only a few KBs at most at any given time :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
67 Negative copying: eek!
Hi folks.. Once more I return to the font of all knowledge: I need to make some 4x5 internegs of my favorite 67 shots (having actually LOST my #1 ever bw shot when i moved).. I'm getting going on this project on Monday\Tuesday (eek)... I'm picking up PROFESSIONAL B/W Duplicating Film SO-132 for the job, but i'm a little confused by the process to use to actually GET the exposure. The Kodak site quoteth: EXPOSURE You can use tungsten, fluorescent, or tungsten-halogen light sources to expose this film. Make a series of test exposures under your conditions. Start with a trial exposure of 40 seconds if you use a tungsten light source that provides 5 footcandles (54 lux) at the exposure plane. More exposure produces lower densities in the duplicate; less exposure produces higher densities. Now - I plan to use my Saunders LPL to project the negative onto the film (which will be flattened on my vacuum easel), and development will be no issue. QUESTIONs:... How in HECKS name can I calculate 5 footcandles (54 lux)... what f-stop is this? I can measure light using my Sekonic 501... Looking at the curves, I'm going for density of 1 with 20 second exposure (20 lux seconds)... Is this correct, or have I got it wrong? http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f11/f00 9_0149ac.gif Thanks, Oliver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flight advice
For an update, I had no problems going through the checkpoints at either airport (ATL SFO) I had no film over 400 in the bag so I just left them in there and ran it through the machine... One roll developed so far and it looks ok to my decidedly untrained eye. I was not asked to open my bag at all. One interesting anecdote though: At San Francisco on the way home there was a person with a Pelican case in front of me who was picked to have their shoes examined. While she was away letting someone sniff her shoes (what a job!), they hand-checked her case and were confused by what they found. The checker didn't recognize the contents and was asking the surrounding workers if they knew what these things were. Nobody seemed to so I chimed in They're microphones.. She said Oh, OK. packed them back in the case and sent it along. Good thing I wasn't an accomplice! Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WTB: Bogen Tripod Legs and Head
If, I invest in a QR system, it'd prolly be one of the Arca-Swiss varietys. I've seen the qr plates by Really Right Stuff models for the pz1p that are machined specifically for the bottom plate of that camera, matching it's curves. They also manufacture plates for most of the Pentax Big Glass that's on my wish list. I was not aware that Bogen had more than one type of QR system. I am only familiar with thos g**awful hexagon thingamajigs, that add quite a bit of weight to the camera. And (without mods) does nothing to keep the camera from twisting when at odd angles. Nick --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm ... I think it might depend on which head you're using. The head that came with my 3221 had a pretty weak QR, but the 410 head has a nice-sized QR which is solid and secure. Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: I know what you mean about the Bogen QR, Nick. I just converted my Bogen QR system to Cullmann. Cullmann plates are smaller and lighter, and will install no matter which direction the plate is aimed. Installing the Bogen QR was always an act of anxiety, though I confess I didn't get how to do it properly until recently, when I realized that you must first cock the lever, rather than to slide in the QR plate in a way that causes it to cock. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Re: For REAL Pentax fans only...
dave o'brien wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/collection/ Someone *needs* a polariser very, very badly. dave and a tripod You don't seem to be a REAL Pentax fan, Dave. Noticing the technical incompetence of the photos means that your heart was not beating fast enough while looking at them... Cheers, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Leica SUCKS
I've traded in all of my leica systems and moved up to PENTAX 67II system. The glass beats the Zeiss, the format beats 35 mm, and it rules! I hereby apologise for all previous slanderous comments made about all Pentax systems. (I apologise for the anit-troll - the email address used to fake this is now closed!) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss thewho_@hotmail.com
bugger. i guess the secrets out... I am an idiot... - Original Message - From: Oliver Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Alarm (Re: auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss thewho_@hotmail.com)
Oliver Raymond wrote: auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leica SUCKS
ok - this really sucks... I saw the FLAME WARRIORS mail, and I was TRYING to be theWHO, but hotmail used by existing id :( not funny... please don't beat me up! - Original Message - From: Oliver Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: Leica SUCKS I've traded in all of my leica systems and moved up to PENTAX 67II system. The glass beats the Zeiss, the format beats 35 mm, and it rules! I hereby apologise for all previous slanderous comments made about all Pentax systems. (I apologise for the anit-troll - the email address used to fake this is now closed!) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flight advice
Which alway make you wonder if they would recognize a bomb if they saw it. Makes you feel safe doesn't it. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: CBWaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Re: flight advice For an update, I had no problems going through the checkpoints at either airport (ATL SFO) I had no film over 400 in the bag so I just left them in there and ran it through the machine... One roll developed so far and it looks ok to my decidedly untrained eye. I was not asked to open my bag at all. One interesting anecdote though: At San Francisco on the way home there was a person with a Pelican case in front of me who was picked to have their shoes examined. While she was away letting someone sniff her shoes (what a job!), they hand-checked her case and were confused by what they found. The checker didn't recognize the contents and was asking the surrounding workers if they knew what these things were. Nobody seemed to so I chimed in They're microphones.. She said Oh, OK. packed them back in the case and sent it along. Good thing I wasn't an accomplice! Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K mount to 39mm adapters.
Hello, No there's no K- to 39mm adapter, there is howeven a 39mm to 42mm adapter and of course the K to 42 screwmount. The use of 39mm lenses on a K-body is very very very limited, there are some, now very old, russian lenses you can use, they were made for the first Zenit SLR's, those are the only lenses you can use without losing infinityfocussing. Be aware not to use leica screwmountlenses directly on a slr because of the rangefinder cam on the lens could kill your mirror. Also the mountregister is something of 29 mm instead of 45.5 of the K-mount. If you want to use it for enlarginglenses on a K-mountbellow be free to try it, I did try it and wasn't to pleased with the results. (The lens: Rodenstock Rodagon 2.8/50) René - Original Message - From: Ryan Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 3:00 PM Subject: Re: K mount to 39mm adapters. Hello to All, Do they make an adapter to fit a 39mm screw mount lens onto a Pentax camera? A Fellow Pentaxian, Ryan Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax a best ever prime lens at Pop?
There's no article, just reviews of the three prime lenses (including the 31 limited), plus a review of a zoom. There's also a review of a Voigtlander camera, which comes with the reviewed Voigtlander lens. In the camera review they do say that the Voigtlander lens may be the best prime they have tested. On Pop Photo's online discussion forum the managing editor does clarify that the three primes reviewed are what the cover refers to. I think it's sloppy. I'm reading through the issue now. It is filled with writing and typesetting errors. Either the copyeditor was out sick, or they have just cut back on copyediting to save money. Either way, the magazine is annoying to read. Peterson's has had the same problem over the past few issues. Joe Are you guys saying that there's no article inside about the best lenses, or just nothing about the pentax lens? Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: For REAL Pentax fans only...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: You don't seem to be a REAL Pentax fan, Dave. Noticing the technical incompetence of the photos means that your heart was not beating fast enough while looking at them... Yeah, I'm definitely waning - I just had a 15/3.5 in my hands and refused to buy it, looked at all three limited lenses and decided they were too expensive and ignored an 85/1.4 in favour of a quarter pounder with cheese from MacDonald's. But I did think that an FA120/4 (645) with the right adapters was probable my next lens, so maybe I'm not completely hopeless. I'm still weighing up an 800/f4.0 (6x7) vs my wife throwing me out, so there's hope for me yet. dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net To err is human, to purr feline. To err is human, two curs canine. To err is human, to moo bovine. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 Negative copying: eek!
Oliver Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks.. Once more I return to the font of all knowledge: [Using Duplicating film.] QUESTIONs:... How in HECKS name can I calculate 5 footcandles (54 lux)... what f-stop is this? I can measure light using my Sekonic 501... Looking at the curves, I'm going for density of 1 with 20 second exposure (20 lux seconds)... Is this correct, or have I got it wrong? The `Ultimate Exposure Computer' might help you. There is a EV/Lux/ Footcandle chart near the bottom of that page. I guess that you will end up around EV 4.5 . http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f11/f009_0149ac.gif [URL repaired.] -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flight advice
I boarded a plane in Detroit last week with a big lead bag full of film. They opened the top and peeked in, but didn't look under the three or four rolls of film they could see through the top of the bag. I could have had anything under them. Paul T Rittenhouse wrote: Which alway make you wonder if they would recognize a bomb if they saw it. Makes you feel safe doesn't it. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: CBWaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Re: flight advice For an update, I had no problems going through the checkpoints at either airport (ATL SFO) I had no film over 400 in the bag so I just left them in there and ran it through the machine... One roll developed so far and it looks ok to my decidedly untrained eye. I was not asked to open my bag at all. One interesting anecdote though: At San Francisco on the way home there was a person with a Pelican case in front of me who was picked to have their shoes examined. While she was away letting someone sniff her shoes (what a job!), they hand-checked her case and were confused by what they found. The checker didn't recognize the contents and was asking the surrounding workers if they knew what these things were. Nobody seemed to so I chimed in They're microphones.. She said Oh, OK. packed them back in the case and sent it along. Good thing I wasn't an accomplice! Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I'm back
welcome back, pooky. At 9:28 AM +13002/17/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, or at least typed: Hi all, I got my PC running again so I've resubscribed. Hope I haven't missed too much when I was browsing the archives the past couple of weeks. BTW Pegasus Mail users may be interested to hear that version 4.0 has been released. It has some pretty nifty new features but you can still make it look like the old version. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: ebay LX
Just thought I would announce this one more time...only one day left. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1332197297r=0t=0showTutorial=0ed=1014001400indexURL=0rd=1 Contact me off list if you have any questions. Cheers, Bob = What boots up must come down. Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flight advice
Perhaps you should have told them that. Len --- I boarded a plane in Detroit last week with a big lead bag full of film. They opened the top and peeked in, but didn't look under the three or four rolls of film they could see through the top of the bag. I could have had anything under them. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Now this is one fast lens!
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333464009 65mm / 1:.075! * Get over it. Dr. Laura - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
aurora alert
folks, According to SpaceWeather.com, a coronal mass ejection that happened on Valentine's Day is expected to reach the earth this saturday or sunday, possibly resulting in auroras. As far as I can tell, it seems like the current sun spot cycle is winding down, so this might be the last chance to get some photos for quite some time (the cycles are 14 years or so in length, aren't they)? Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flight advice
I'm hesitant to say anything to the security people, because I've heard of people who've been subjected to extensive searches and delays when they've spoken out. But I'm thinking I ought to call the FAA. It's happened twice now since 911, both times at Detroit Metro. Paul Len Paris wrote: Perhaps you should have told them that. Len --- I boarded a plane in Detroit last week with a big lead bag full of film. They opened the top and peeked in, but didn't look under the three or four rolls of film they could see through the top of the bag. I could have had anything under them. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: FS M 135/3.5
In very excellent condition. With caps a case. $50 Steve - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now this is one fast lens!
And I thought the Canon 50mm f/0.95 was fast! Len --- - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: Now this is one fast lens! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=133346400 9 65mm / 1:.075! * Get over it. Dr. Laura - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OM1
I moved from an OM1 to the Pentax ME-Super to get more reliable metering. The OM1 was ok when it was working, but I was getting it re-calibrated every 6 months or so . . . I had been through that with a Nikkormat and just did not see the need to put up with that hassle. Maybe if you use it in manual with a handheld meter . . . stan From: Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 04:07:20 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Pentax fast glass? Warren, I think you may have ruined me for life. I looked into the OM system, and WOW! That 90mm f2 macro supposably outperforms the 90mm Summicron and Elmarit Leica's and with greater contrast, plus works as an equally great macro lens! Who cares if it ways over 19 oz! Not me. I've always liked the OM1 body, but for some reason thought the lenses were just averageSilly me. The body is almost as small as an MX, is light, quiet, rugged, _and has mirror lock up_, plus is cheap(to make up for the very expensive 90mm macro). I also like the shutter speed placement on the lens mount. Thanks for turning me on to Olympus. Marcus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are considering switching systems and don't mind a camera whose end has been officially announced, I might suggest Olympus as they excel in fast wide angles. There is the 21/2, 24/2, 28/2, 35/2, 50/1.2, 85/2, 90/2 and 100/2. The 90 is the sharpest but also the priciest. Average prices run as follows 21 $550, 24 $300, 28 $275, 35 $175, 50 $250, 85 $225. The 28, 35, 50, 90 and 100 are wonderfully sharp and are pretty good wide open. Warren - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
right angle lens question from earlier...
Hi gang, Someone was asking about a right angle mirror or lens for Pentax? Go here: http://www.usedphoto.com Click Pentax and scroll down...he has an Asahi mirror adapter for $65. Probably a deal... Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: flight advice
Paul, That is a dilemna. If you speak out, you will probably make flying for photographers even harder, but if you don't speak out, security could be compromised. Bruce Dayton Saturday, February 16, 2002, 6:12:19 PM, you wrote: PS I'm hesitant to say anything to the security people, because I've heard PS of people who've been subjected to extensive searches and delays when PS they've spoken out. But I'm thinking I ought to call the FAA. It's PS happened twice now since 911, both times at Detroit Metro. PS Paul PS Len Paris wrote: Perhaps you should have told them that. Len --- I boarded a plane in Detroit last week with a big lead bag full of film. They opened the top and peeked in, but didn't look under the three or four rolls of film they could see through the top of the bag. I could have had anything under them. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now this is one fast lens!
Probably a radiographic (xray) lens. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Now this is one fast lens! And I thought the Canon 50mm f/0.95 was fast! Len --- - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: Now this is one fast lens! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=133346400 9 65mm / 1:.075! * Get over it. Dr. Laura - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax lenses
SCM Pentax, SCM Pentax M, and SCM Pentax A are manual focus. SCM Pentax F, and SCM Pentax FA are autofocus. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: pentax lenses Hi, Can some one explain to me which lenses in pentax smc came out as a manual focus lense and auto focus lense. Just trying to get my way around this. Does anyone also know where I can get a Grip Strap for my Pz1p? Tried a few stores in Melbourne (genus, michaels photo time) and they seem not interested in selling Pentax. Everywhere I go there all pushing the Nikon F80 or N80 and when you ask the question they look at you with eyebrows up in the air as if there saying 'what do you want me to do' - then they try to sell you sigma alternatives. I have given up on Genius, Phototime and Michaels in Melbourne and will be purchasing my gear in future through European Cameras in Sydney or B H Photo. They seem to be the only 2 that are interested. This could be me but thats what I have learnt. Thanks joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fw: OT - Pentax 67 for fashion photography
I thought the list might be interested in this guys comments on the 6x7. It was in the rec.photol.equipment-mediumformat newsgroup. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Stefan Patric [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: OT - Pentax 67 for fashion photography On Friday 15 February 2002 17:44, zxcvar wrote: Greetings! Some one wrote in another newsgroup that he has seen fashion photographers shooting with Pentax 67. I thought fashion photographers will use digital or more fashionable cameras. It is surprising to see some one using such old camera system. I do not use medium format cameras. So please excuse my ignorance. Just curious. With thanks. Why do find this so surprising? Can only the newest, most cutting-edge, technologically advance equipment produce good photographs? Seems you have been afflicted with the New is Best syndrome, wherein nothing old can produce anything good. True, the Pentax 6 x 7 system has been around a long time--over 30 years--but it is still made, has been updated and upgraded as needed to maintain viability in the photographic market, but basically today's model, for all intense and purposes, is the same as yesterday's. Besides producing excellent images, the Pentax 6 x 7 has several advantages over other 6x7 reflex cameras. It is small (for a 6x7), easy to hold and use hand-held, and quick to operate just like a 35mm; and for fast action fashion shoots, this is exactly what is needed. That is not to say, that other medium format cameras (or even 35mm) can't be used for fashion, but years ago, when I was first beginning my professional photo career, I assisted a photographer who told me that the Pentax Super Takumar lenses ...liked women, and produced the most beautiful skin tones and tonal gradations of any lens. For that reason, he did all his glamour, fashion and theatrical work with the Pentax and reserved the Hasselblad for industrial, product, architecture, and men. Of course, others will have a different opinion. -- Stefan Patric [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fw: OT - Pentax 67 for fashion photography
Thanks for sharing. It is very interesting to read his comments. I marvel over and over how many people don't ever think of photography beyond equipment. Likely they have never produced a powerful photograph, only captured personal memories. For people like that photography is only about cool equipment, not about the end result. Bruce Dayton Saturday, February 16, 2002, 7:20:48 PM, you wrote: TR I thought the list might be interested in this guys comments on the 6x7. It TR was in the rec.photol.equipment-mediumformat newsgroup. TR Ciao, TR Graywolf TR TR - Original Message - TR From: Stefan Patric [EMAIL PROTECTED] TR Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format TR Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:20 PM TR Subject: Re: OT - Pentax 67 for fashion photography On Friday 15 February 2002 17:44, zxcvar wrote: Greetings! Some one wrote in another newsgroup that he has seen fashion photographers shooting with Pentax 67. I thought fashion photographers will use digital or more fashionable cameras. It is surprising to see some one using such old camera system. I do not use medium format cameras. So please excuse my ignorance. Just curious. With thanks. Why do find this so surprising? Can only the newest, most cutting-edge, technologically advance equipment produce good photographs? Seems you have been afflicted with the New is Best syndrome, wherein nothing old can produce anything good. True, the Pentax 6 x 7 system has been around a long time--over 30 years--but it is still made, has been updated and upgraded as needed to maintain viability in the photographic market, but basically today's model, for all intense and purposes, is the same as yesterday's. Besides producing excellent images, the Pentax 6 x 7 has several advantages over other 6x7 reflex cameras. It is small (for a 6x7), easy to hold and use hand-held, and quick to operate just like a 35mm; and for fast action fashion shoots, this is exactly what is needed. That is not to say, that other medium format cameras (or even 35mm) can't be used for fashion, but years ago, when I was first beginning my professional photo career, I assisted a photographer who told me that the Pentax Super Takumar lenses ...liked women, and produced the most beautiful skin tones and tonal gradations of any lens. For that reason, he did all his glamour, fashion and theatrical work with the Pentax and reserved the Hasselblad for industrial, product, architecture, and men. Of course, others will have a different opinion. -- Stefan Patric [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Things Have Changed
Ran into a friend today and told him of a client of mine who introduced me to his printer. My friend asked What kind is it? to which I replied It's a person - he does BW darkroom work. My friend also had an opportunity to use the new Sigma camera with the Foveon chip, comparing it to the Nikon D1 (Is that what it's called) and the Canon D-30. He said the results from the Sigma were superior. Didn't have a chance to talk a lot more about it, but he said the Sigma showed zero color fringing where both the Nikon and Canon did. There is a surprising development in the offing about which I can't say too much other than it might put a smile on the face of those who desire a bigger chip (sensor?) in a 35mm-sized camera. To paraphrase my friend, It'll kick ass! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flight advice
And you think they care? Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Re: flight advice I'm hesitant to say anything to the security people, because I've heard of people who've been subjected to extensive searches and delays when they've spoken out. But I'm thinking I ought to call the FAA. It's happened twice now since 911, both times at Detroit Metro. Paul Len Paris wrote: Perhaps you should have told them that. Len --- I boarded a plane in Detroit last week with a big lead bag full of film. They opened the top and peeked in, but didn't look under the three or four rolls of film they could see through the top of the bag. I could have had anything under them. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: flight advice
Have you flown lately? What's going on with security is a farce. It's meant to give the average public a warm feeling, but it isn't accomplishing much but long delays. Would any of this have stopped what happenned on 9/11, I think not. The best thing re security since 9/11 is that passengers will be much more inclined to fight someone trying to take over an aircraft than they would have pre 9/11. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: Re[2]: flight advice Paul, That is a dilemna. If you speak out, you will probably make flying for photographers even harder, but if you don't speak out, security could be compromised. Bruce Dayton Saturday, February 16, 2002, 6:12:19 PM, you wrote: PS I'm hesitant to say anything to the security people, because I've heard PS of people who've been subjected to extensive searches and delays when PS they've spoken out. But I'm thinking I ought to call the FAA. It's PS happened twice now since 911, both times at Detroit Metro. PS Paul PS Len Paris wrote: Perhaps you should have told them that. Len --- I boarded a plane in Detroit last week with a big lead bag full of film. They opened the top and peeked in, but didn't look under the three or four rolls of film they could see through the top of the bag. I could have had anything under them. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 Negative copying: eek!, and longish
- Original Message - From: Oliver Raymond Subject: 67 Negative copying: eek! QUESTIONs:... How in HECKS name can I calculate 5 footcandles (54 lux)... what f-stop is this? I can measure light using my Sekonic 501... Looking at the curves, I'm going for density of 1 with 20 second exposure (20 lux seconds)... Is this correct, or have I got it wrong? Don't worry, you can test it this way. The duplicating film is very slow, more like contact printing speed if I remember. It is very exposure sensitve, and also pretty development sensitive, so you might want to do a full lab style test on it. Here is what I would do. Set the lens to the best aperture. Then make a test sheet of a grey card (you can use the white side, but you have to subtract 3 stops of speed from the end calculation. Use a really wide exposure range, say about 10 stops. Remember to start with the dark slide all the way out, and progressively cover the film. Use the camera at infinity focus Base your beginning exposure on 5 stops less than iso 12, or whatever your meters lowect iso setting is. Process the film as per the instruction sheet. You will hopefully end up with a sheet that goes from clear to black. Make another test sheet, starting with the exposure time of the last clear strip on the first test. You will have a pretty good idea of the exposure increment from the first test. Process the film according to the instruction sheet. This test should give you your speed point, though I have had to make a third test on some occassions. Your speed point is where the film density is .15 over BDF on a transmission densitomer that is set up for negatives (most come that way). If you don't have a desitometer, a close up lens adapted to a spot meter can work, put the neg on a light table and measure stops. The speed point is one stop over BDF. If you can refine the test down to 1/3 stop increments, you don't need a measuring tool. The speed point would be the third visible density patch from BDF. Now to find the proper development time. Take a sheet of unexposed but normally processed film and put it in your neg carrier. Make sure it is in focus. You can gently scratch the emulsion to have something to focus on. Set your lens to its best aperture. Make a test print (if you use VC papers, use grade 2) to see where the first visible density increase is. This is the tentatively correct exposure time for this film/ paper combination at that particular magnification. Use this time and elevation for the remainder of the test. Now, back to the camera. Expose a few film sheets of a gray scale using the correct exposure from the first test set, and process one of them according to the instruction sheet. Make a print of it using the correct exposure time. Inspect the print to see if you need more, or less negative contrast. Process a second sheet, but adjust the development time, or temperature or dilution (whatever strategy you normally use to affect the amount of development will work) in the direction you need to go. I try to make sure I over correct at this stage, as that way I have a parameter limit that I can work back from. Make a print of this negative at the correct exposure time. Decide now if the correct exposure time is actually correct. If you have had to make a big change to the amount of film development, you may have to look at if the BDF has shifted, which will throw off the correct print exposure. Don't be surprised if you need to increase the exposure by a bit to see light tone deliniation, but your exposure time should be within a half stop, more likely a third stop. Now we can really start to fine tune things. Process the third sheet of film, hopefully using a development time somewhere in between the first two development times. Print this sheet at the adjusted exposure time. Inspect to see what adjustments you need. You may decide you need a bit more film exposure, or perhaps a bit less, or that you may still need some refinement of the development time. Change only one parameter at a time when running additional tests. Have fun William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bellows 100mm Weird Bokeh
Sorry, I didn't post naught but the pictures. The bokeh picture is a bare 60 watt light bulb from about 15 feet, wit the lens focused to about 3 feet. It is far from a point source. William Robb - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: Bellows 100mm Weird Bokeh William! As you know, All out of focus shapes are the shape of the aperture as traced by the light source(s) - always. If the light source had been a point source, then the edges of the aperture blades would have been reproduced exactly - save for some minor diffraction. You've not told us what this is a photo of. It appears to be an overexposed photo of an out of focus, non point, possibly near round light source. If the light source was (essentially) round, then you have 8 blades in your aperture on that screw mount lens. I have the K-mount version which has 6 blades. I'm not sure this would actually be called bokeh. It's more a fuzzy picture of the bokeh generator. It would be nice if the star was exposed as gray. That way we could view the light distribution across the aperture. I've noticed that this has more of an effect on the bokeh of many photos than the shape of the aperture. Bokeh (bad, good, neutral, disturbing) is a matter of taste. Regards, - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now this is one fast lens!
Wow! It's so fast even the camera couldn't capture it clear. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333464009 65mm / 1:.075! _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flight advice
Yeah. they probably care. Their asses are on the line. Kenneth Waller wrote: And you think they care? Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Re: flight advice I'm hesitant to say anything to the security people, because I've heard of people who've been subjected to extensive searches and delays when they've spoken out. But I'm thinking I ought to call the FAA. It's happened twice now since 911, both times at Detroit Metro. Paul Len Paris wrote: Perhaps you should have told them that. Len --- I boarded a plane in Detroit last week with a big lead bag full of film. They opened the top and peeked in, but didn't look under the three or four rolls of film they could see through the top of the bag. I could have had anything under them. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Anyone from Bangalore, India on the list??
Hi all, Looking for some enthusiast from Bangalore with whom I can share my experiences and learn by interaction. Also looking for a store here that stocks films other than Kodak Gold 100/200/Max, Fujifilm 100/200 and Konica Centuria 100/200 besides Ektachrome 100/200. I would like to try out other films that guys on the list and others use. Couldn't find any at the more popular studios like G.K. Vale and Foto Flash. The cardboard slide mounts too weren't as good and gave me trouble with my projector. Anyone here from Bangalore?? Thanks, Gaurav - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OM1
I understand that the metering in the OM1 is fairly primitive. This would seem to be it's weakest link. And if you recall I am looking for a system for shooting chromes almost exclusively. I was thinking along the lines of an OM1 for tripod mirror locked up type shooting and as a back-up for a OM-2. I wonder if the OM1 could be fitted with a OM2 meter...? OK, back to reality. Believe me I'm not running out and buying into any system just yet. I have a couple of months before I hit the road. I'm still trying to sort out film from my last trip. I spent three months with a Canon QL17 and Minox 35ML. Lot's of fun. By the way, that ME doesn't have an exposure lock, does it? Same for the LX, I just don't get it. Doesn't having to manually compensate for lighting negate most of the benefits of AE? Plus if I recall the ME's compensation is in full stop's? --- Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I moved from an OM1 to the Pentax ME-Super to get more reliable metering. The OM1 was ok when it was working, but I was getting it re-calibrated every 6 months or so . . . I had been through that with a Nikkormat and just did not see the need to put up with that hassle. Maybe if you use it in manual with a handheld meter . . . stan From: Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 04:07:20 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Pentax fast glass? Warren, I think you may have ruined me for life. I looked into the OM system, and WOW! That 90mm f2 macro supposably outperforms the 90mm Summicron and Elmarit Leica's and with greater contrast, plus works as an equally great macro lens! Who cares if it ways over 19 oz! Not me. I've always liked the OM1 body, but for some reason thought the lenses were just averageSilly me. The body is almost as small as an MX, is light, quiet, rugged, _and has mirror lock up_, plus is cheap(to make up for the very expensive 90mm macro). I also like the shutter speed placement on the lens mount. Thanks for turning me on to Olympus. Marcus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are considering switching systems and don't mind a camera whose end has been officially announced, I might suggest Olympus as they excel in fast wide angles. There is the 21/2, 24/2, 28/2, 35/2, 50/1.2, 85/2, 90/2 and 100/2. The 90 is the sharpest but also the priciest. Average prices run as follows 21 $550, 24 $300, 28 $275, 35 $175, 50 $250, 85 $225. The 28, 35, 50, 90 and 100 are wonderfully sharp and are pretty good wide open. Warren - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now this is one fast lens!
On that note. Am I the only one who gets uneasy about buying cameras from people who can't properly use one? --- Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! It's so fast even the camera couldn't capture it clear. Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
