Re: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto photos

[frank theriault]

Hi, Stan,

I think I can see about where we were, but I notice from the scoreboard that those
shots seem to be taken top of the first inning, and we were a bit late arriving
(somewhere between the top and bottom of the inning).  Any shots a bit later in the
game?  I'll take a look at these ones in more detail tonight, when I get home from
work.

BTW, your native friend (native to Toronto, that is) is 1/2 right.  You do drop the
second "t", but you've added an extra syllable.  It's pronounced "Tranna".

Amazing detail on those big scans!  Wow.  Those big negs blow up real good, don't
they!!

Nice to get a chance to meet with you, Stan.  Maybe next time, I'll come down to
KC!!

regards,
frank

Stan Halpin wrote:

> I just did quick scans of some of my Toronto photos. Including shots of
> three of the four PDMLers I met. Brendan managed to avoid being in most
> photos . . .
>
> Go to  and look in the Toron'o folder. {A
> native told me that the second "t" in Toron'o is not pronounced.} There are
> two (very large) shots there of the baseball game I went to. Frank claims he
> was "... first base line, about 1/2 way between the plate and first, maybe
> 25  or 30 rows up . . ."  Can you spot him? Frank, can you see where you are
> in either shot?
>
> Stan
>

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Re: Bummer! Anyone have any ideas what went wrong?

[kleickly]

I wasn't quite as lucky as you.  My slides were terrible.  I've learned a 
valuable lesson with this one.
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Re: AF Converter project?

[mike wilson]

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> How feasible does this sound? 

Sounds quite feasible to me.

Nikon register = 46.5mm
Pentax (I can only find screw but I assume K is the same) =
45.46mm

Therefore spacers will be needed to make the Nikon work, which
is eaier than removing material to make the PK work on Nikon. 
Reversible, as well.  Don't know about the aperture mechanism.

Why not bring the bits to PDML 2002 and we can look at it?  I
don't mind playing with other people's parts.  Promise to wear
gloves...

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Re: Bummer! Anyone have any ideas what went wrong?

[kleickly]

The images were very dark.  Some of the slides were just black.  I guess what 
I was referring to when I send they appeared "faint", was that on a couple of 
them I could see that the were photos of a white trillium.  However, the 
white trillium certainly was not white.  
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AF Converter project?

[JGeoffreyStevens]

>Doesn't the 1.7x lose 1.5 stops? or is it 1.7 stops?

I have one of these converters and the instruction 
pamphlet says that 'the f-stop multiplied by 1.7 becomes the actual one'.

HTH,
Geoff
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Re: More on E-6 processing

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, at 06:25  PM, Bill Owens wrote:

>  So far it looks like the water is going to stay within 2 degrees or
> less F, so it should work okay.

Two degrees is a pretty big variation for E-6.

-Aaron
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Re: More on E-6 processing

[Aaron Reynolds]

32 C may be enough, you'll simply have to adjust your processing times 
to compensate.  Temperature consistency is the most important part.

Agfa's E-6 kits have suggested times for 30 C and 38 C.

-Aaron
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Re: 67 Experience

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, at 06:08  PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> The
> lenses, the viewfinder image all work together to bring a joy back
> into photography for me.

This is exactly what I went through in the fall, when I "rediscovered" 
my 67 gear.

It's a fantastic feeling, isn't it?

-Aaron
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Re: LX/MX Screens: which is your favo(u)rite/most used

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, at 02:16  PM, Christian Skofteland wrote:

> 3. The grid on the LX screen REALLY helps me with composition (my 
> greatest
> challange).  Not only that, since using it, I've had fewer tilted 
> horizons!

Me too.  Now that I finally have a wide angle lens for my 67, I've 
decided I need a grid screen for it, too.

-Aaron
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Re: 67 Experience

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, at 04:30  PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Speaking of the 67 experience, I received the neg and print you sent.
> Arrgh!  The print is pretty poor.  It looks like it was made on a color
> paper as there are some strands of hair with an auburn tinge to them.

...leading to a complete lack of contrast control.  Woohoo!

There's nothing like a bad b&w print on colour paper for horror value.

-Aaron
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Re: OT: E6 processing at home: worth my trouble for30 rolls a year?

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, at 11:42  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Have you tried the
> Tetenal kits ?  They look as though they area available in small pack 
> sizes.

Agfa sell a 500mL kit, which they say is good for four rolls.

-Aaron
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Re: Split Image Or Not Split Image

[Aaron Reynolds]

Up until 1998, every SLR I had ever used had a split image focusing 
screen.  Then, I got a Pentax 67.  At first I was disoriented with the 
67, and was concerned about being able to focus.  For a time I 
considered buying a different screen for it.

Then I stopped thinking about it, and just USED the camera, and I found 
that it was not an issue at all, and now I am so used to it that I don't 
think I actually pay attention to the split image in my 35mm bodies any 
more.

-Aaron
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Re: AF Converter project?

[Mishka]

Anyone heard of Nikon to PK lens adapters out there? I would buy one in a
heartbeat...

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From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: AF Converter project?


> Hi,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > How feasible does this sound?
>
> Sounds quite feasible to me.
>
> Nikon register = 46.5mm
> Pentax (I can only find screw but I assume K is the same) =
> 45.46mm
>
> Therefore spacers will be needed to make the Nikon work, which
> is eaier than removing material to make the PK work on Nikon.
> Reversible, as well.  Don't know about the aperture mechanism.
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Re: m42 to K adapter -- experience?

[David Brooks]

Although i have had an adaptor since 1997,i have
just recently started to use it.The 4-5 sample
pic's i took turned out not to bad on the K1000
and i fiqured out why they were not working on
the SP(film advance not at '0' so no readings Doh)
I'm jsut bothered by the big difference in the
on board meter and the handheld meter.I hope to
finish a roll of Portra 160 in the K1000 thei weekend
with the adaptor on.
As far as having to open wide to focus and stop
down to meter and shot,not a big pain so far.

Dave


Pentax User
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Vivitar Series 1 90mm

[Camdir]

A new toy, but in the wrong fitting for you guys, sad to say.

But what a beauty, oh yes indeedy. Does 1:1 and has build quality to rival 
Leica R, albeit without the horrendous weight.

If you see one in PK, just buy it.

Kind regards

Peter
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RE: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Paris, Leonard]

Certainly, since most people buy on the basis of price. If it performed
decently, all the better.

Len
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Portrait lens recommendations?


>If Pentax came out with a new version of a fairly
>inexpensive FA 85/2, it would probably sell like the proverbial
>hotcakes...

Certainly better than the 1.4 at least... I think!?

regards,
Alan Chan
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M6

[David Chang-Sang]

Hi Shel,

Read through the emails about the split image and noted your question about
the M6;  unfortunately it's already spoken for and sold.

I had fun while it was in my hands but; seeing as how I have a Contax G2
already (even though it's not a Leica) which I enjoy using and it produces
sharp images, I couldn't justify the cost to hang onto the M6.  I will
eventually buy another one, some day, just not right now :)  I have to learn
more about the cameras I do own (k1000 included) rather than try to become
accustomed to another :)


Cheers,
Dave
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Re: Leaf shutter operation on Pentax 67 165mm f/4.0 LS

[Anthony Farr]

I hope no one minds me contributing to a dead thread.  My wife had her gall
bladder removed last week so my priorities have been elsewhere.  Perhaps by
the end of the evening I can get my PDML backlog under the one thousand mark
:)

This caught my eye:

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From: "Bolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(snip)
> -- but there is already uneven
> exposure center to edges caused by the leaf shutter.
>
(snip)

If you stop and think about it this can't be true.  A leaf shutter opens
from the centre then closes back to the centre.  This means that the first
and last moments of an exposure are at minimum aperture, quickly enlarging
to the working aperture where the bulk of an exposure is made.  Most of an
exposure produces no difference in fall-off of illumination compared to an
exposure by a perfect focal plane shutter.  The very small portion of
exposure that occurs during the opening and closing of a leaf shutter can
only reduce light fall-off, not increase it, because lenses have more even
light distribution at smaller apertures.  OTOH leaf shutters theoretically
give an increase in depth of field for any given aperture due to the part of
exposure made at less than the working aperture, but again this would be
practically undetectable.

Regards,
Anthony Farr
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RE: Website Update

[Mark Cassino]

Thanks, Len -

My DSL is pretty fast throughout the day, except for when it stops dead (2 
- 5 minutes at a time.)

I think that if I averaged in the mini down periods it would be no faster 
than the 56k modem it replaced

- MCC

At 07:19 AM 4/25/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Depending on your browser, I use IE, you can hover the cursor over each
>large image and see what the file size is.  I didn't see any large files and
>they load quickly. But I was looking at about 6:00 am CDT. We can't really
>go by loading time alone.  We also have to consider lots of other factors, a
>couple of which are:  How many other people may be browsing the same site at
>the same time we are. What the traffic is like on the net at the time we are
>browsing.  Peak hours slow things down a lot.
>
>Len
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RE: Website Update

[Mark Cassino]

Thanks, Taka - Glad you liked it!

- MCC

At 05:28 PM 4/24/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Mark-
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>
>Taka
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RE: Website Update

[Mark Cassino]

At 10:00 PM 4/24/2002 +0200, Familie wrote:

>I really enjoyed your new styled website!
>
>The pictures are very nice, but they take long to be loaded although I have a
>quick connection (DSL). Do you use jpg format with 100% quality?

Thanks!

I save the images as TIFFs and then compress them using an old version of 
ACDSee set to quality of 88.  The majority of the images are <100kb, but 
some creep up into the mid 100's. I hadn't noticed it but the B&W 
landscapes seem to be the worst for not compressing - I guess all the edges.

Thanks for your feedback!

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Re: Website update

[Albano_Garcia]

Mark wrote:
I assume you are talking about the type in the logo and on the front page -
otherwise it is just plain Arial (right?) (Worrying that something went
amok in the formatting.)
 Exactly. I mean the title. Arial is fine.


>I like the overall simple design, but I would change the type, and just as
>a suggestion, for the main home page, I wolud put the sections titles in a
>single line, over a black rectangle under the photos (like the one above
>the photos with the title, with same lenght, but not as tall). I hope you
>understand what I'm trying to say, it's hard to explain with words.
I think I visualize it - you mean the navigation buttons?  Or the actual
image title?  I almost dropped the image titles altogether since they are
duplicated in the frame around the image, but then there would nothing for
search engines to index...

/ I mean the section titles in the main home page.

Well, in the title those are the glyphs for the four alchemical elements -
air, water, fire, earth - and the light / time / vision are roughly
analogous to the three alchemical principals - salt, sulphur, and
mercury.  I'm probably dating myself but don't they teach alchemy at
university any more? :-)

// Not in mine at least ;-)
Regards

Albano
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Re: 67 Experience

[gfen]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Sounds like a plan. We have to get a 67 in Shel's hands before he goes
> TLR. Seriously, anyone considering a TLR must shoot and develop a roll
> of film in the TLR before buying. You have to experience the "what you
> see is not what you get" side of TLR photography. I lived with it for
> many years. The Pentax 6x7 was a godsend.

I'm curious as to what you mean in regards to this statement.

The thing I'be found irritating about the TLR is teh fact that is a waist
level finder, and I'm just not used to that. Not too mention I'm fat, so
it sits way out on my gut and I have to peer forward to see into it. :)

Oh well, going to check out some Pentax MF cameras in the flesh, today.
I've already got a line on unloading the ring that's going to give me
(most) of the cash for the setup. Whee!

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Re: What is the most quiet body?

[Albano_Garcia]

In my experience it's the ME Super. It's very discrete
I find the noise of the LX more and more anoying everyday
(I've also used K1000, MX, LX, ZX-M, MZ-5, ZX-5n and MZ-7)
Regards

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Re: m42 to K adapter -- experience?

[Mishka]

By the way, what prevents one to have an adapter mounted on the lens
all the time (like adaptall) and use the m42 lens just like any other
K-mount lens? 
That may be a stupid question, but I have never used such an adapter.
  

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Re: Vivitar Series 1 90mm

[Mishka]

I am considering buying one, so tell me more...
Does it focus the "wrong" way? What's its weight? What is the street
price?


On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:50:03 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> A new toy, but in the wrong fitting for you guys, sad to say.
> 
> But what a beauty, oh yes indeedy. Does 1:1 and has build quality to
> rival 
> Leica R, albeit without the horrendous weight.
> 
> If you see one in PK, just buy it.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
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RE: M6 - Boy am I *dumb*

[David Chang-Sang]

sheesh..
remind me to wake up before I decide to email people :-)

My apologies to the list and Shel for that note this morning shoulda
gone to him directly.

Cheers,
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E-6

[Bill Owens]

Hey Aaron, tried to send this off list, but mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced

Thanks for your comments on processing E-6, Aaron.

I left the heater in a bowl of water overnight and the temperature variation
was less than 1 degree F.

I realize that I'll probably not save a ton of money by processing my own
E-6, but there is the satisfaction of doing it myself.  Back in the mid
70's, when I last processed Ektachrome, I played around with pushing a few
rolls and was pleased with the results.

Thanks again, I'm off to buy a cheap aquarium pump to circulate the water

Bill
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Re: m42 to K adapter -- experience?

[Christian Skofteland]

I had a similar experience with a non-pentax version.  It wouldn't come off 
the camera.  It was on my LX and I was real nerveous when I tokk pliers and 
screwdriver to it.  Thankfully it finally came off.  Later, I bought a 
genuine Pentax adapter and it locks and unlocks smoothly and easily.  I 
rarely use it however and try to get k-mount lenses instead.

Christian

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 23:48, Paul Ewins wrote:
>
>
> I have two of these, one genuine Pentax and the other is third-party. The
> TP one is a very tight fit and twice I have had to unscrew the mount from
> the camera to get the adapter out. When I bought my SMCT 500f4.5 it had a
> genuine Pentax converter and that works a lot better even although it looks
> exactly the same. The tolerances must be just a little more accurate.
> Anyway, the Pentax one goes on and off with no fuss at all.
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Re: AF Converter project?

[Camdir]

In a message dated 25/04/02 13:54:15 GMT Daylight Time, Bob writes:

<< Subject: Re: AF Converter project?
 
 Why?
 
 Bob
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 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:57 PM
 Subject: AF Converter project?
 
 
 > How feasible does this sound? ( I am not an engineer or even a high-level
 > bodger).
 >
 > Pentax AF 1.7x - remove K mount plate from front - replace with Nikon F
 > mount.
 >
 > Somehow re-engineer the diaphragm control pin to give auto aperture.
 >
 >  Just mulling over this 300mm F2.8 Arsat that's here. Doesn't the 1.7x
 lose
 > 1.5 stops? or is it 1.7 stops?
 >
 > Sounds like a Rob Studdert Special Projects Division thingie to
 > me?
 > >>

Why not?

A relatively inexpensive 510mm F4.5-ish AF lens for Pentax. As I recall, the 
Arsat retails about GBP699 new. As I have a nice condition used one lying 
around...why not? Even a manual diaphragm version would be 
fine by me. The AF will still work ok. 
 Frankly I am surprised that Illinois Bill has not seized on this already.

Peter
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Re: Vivitar Series 1 90mm

[Fred]

> A new toy, but in the wrong fitting for you guys, sad to say. But
> what a beauty, oh yes indeedy. Does 1:1 and has build quality to
> rival Leica R, albeit without the horrendous weight.

Does it do the "1:1" by using the macro adapter, Peter?

Fred
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Re: AF Converter Project

[Camdir]

In a message dated 25/04/02 13:54:15 GMT Daylight Time, Mishka writes:

<< Anyone heard of Nikon to PK lens adapters out there? I would buy one in a
 heartbeat... >>

Never seen - hence this. Once had a Nikon lens to Canon FD body adapter - 
this works because the  throat of FD bodies is larger than the F mount. Used 
to rent that 200mm F2 from Leeds Hire for indoor sports jobs. Those go for a 
small fortune. I guess that there would have to be either a teleconverter or 
extension tube involved with Nikon lens - PK body. Having the AF1.7x Adapter 
makes everything a whole lot more feasible - or does it?

BTW, I posted the drawings for this idea to myself by Royal Mail Special 
Delivery yesterday :)

Kind regards

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Re: Color photography is a no-brainer

[Mark Cassino]

Nice shots - great placment on the twigs.  The red lady bugs are getting 
less common here in  sw Michigan and those new fangled orange ones are 
taking over.

- MCC

At 11:16 PM 4/24/2002 +, you wrote:
>Last weekend I had a great shoot with Amy, my favorite model. You'll see
>one of the shots in the June portrait PUG.
> But let me get to the point. I shot three rolls of Plus X BW and
>three rolls of Portra 160 color neg. The lab was closed when I finished,
>but I went home and processed the Plus X, according to my standard
>recipe. I then made some contact sheets and printed a few 16x20s. Yeah,
>I fussed over them, doing some test prints on smaller paper and
>reprinting the big ones until I was totally satisfied. But it wasn't
>very difficult to obtain some prints that were very nice to my eye.
> On Monday morning I dropped the Portra 160 off at the lab. They
>processed it and printed some 3x5s for me. The 3x5s were okay for
>proofs, lacking a little bit in contrast and saturationbut good enough
>to help me choose negatives to scan and print. So I did.
>The scanning went well enough. I scanned some on an Epson 1640 and
>some on an Agfa Duoscan 2500T, producing files of 170 meg and 260 meg
>respectively. One of my favorite shots was a bit contrasty, with the
>model being exposed quite differently from the background. (Main light
>flash on a reflector umbrella with the leaf shutter lens, sky light for
>fill). The scan didn't seem all that difficult, but when I loaded them
>in the computer I had a heck of a time setting levels, hue, contrast,
>and brightness at a point where the shots would print well. I kept
>ending up with too much contrast and/or posterization even though things
>looked good on the screen. Slightly frustrated, I rescanned with the RGB
>curve tweaked a bit to give less contrast and the gamma pumped up to
>around 2.1 with an appropriate amount of scanner exposure. Back in
>PhotoShop I resorted to following the techniques for color correction
>and contrast control as outlined in Barry Haynes and Wendy Crumpler's
>book, titled "Photoshop 6 Artistry." This procedure focuses on
>levels,using the eyedroppers to set highlight and shadow limits as well
>as midtone range. That helped a lot. I made a few other intuitive
>changes to saturation level and brightness. Then I used Selective Color
>to pull some yellow out of the neutrals. Finally, I made a test print,
>corrected a bit more, made another test print, corrected a bit more, and
>finally, at long last, made a very nice print.
> Which all goes to show that color photography is a no brainer.
>Paul Stenquist
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Re: Bummer! Anyone have any ideas what went wrong?

[Mark Cassino]

I'd vote for the "mis-read ISO contact" theory - though I can only think of 
two times my Pz-1p did this is the last 4 years. Maybe the sensors on your 
camra have a problem with the placment of the contacts on slow films like 
Velvia?  You could try popping in a cannister and seeing if it reports the 
ISO correctly.

FWIW - many people shoot Velvia at ISO 40. The slight over exposure takes 
the edge off the contrast and tones down the colors a bit.

- MCC

At 06:36 AM 4/24/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I just had 3 rolls of slide film developed-- 1 roll of Provia F400 and 2
>rolls of Velvia.  I recently got the film via mail order from NY (first time
>for mail order film for me).  My camera is a PZ-1p and I was using 2 lenses,
>a macro lens and a Pentax 28-105.  The Provia slides turned out fine.  None
>of the Velvia slides turned out.  All were dreadfully underexposed.  Faint
>images could be seen on some of them using a cheap light box type viewer, but
>most of them were so dark that nothing could be seen.  I used the
>HyperProgram mode mostly with some +/- adjustments at times, and I changed
>between the 2 lenses throughout the 2 rolls, just as I did on the Provia
>roll.  I honestly don't know what happened.  I would think at least 1 or 2 of
>the shots would have come out, just by law of averages even if I had messed
>up the camera settings (which I am sure I did not do).  This has never
>happened to me before.  I'm even wondering if something happened to the film
>during shipping, but the Provia seems to work fine, and they were shipped
>together.  I used the same local processor that I usually use.  Any thoughts,
>anyone?
>Thanks!Kathy L.
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Now that William and Shel mention it, if I had to name a lens I wish I hadn't sold, it 
would probably be the 85/2M. I've sold off some fine glass--SMC 135/2.5, SMC 24/2.8K, 
35/2M, SMC Takumar 500/4.5, Vivitar Series 1 200/3--but other lenses in my set could 
do more or less the same job. Not so the 85/2M.


William Johnson wrote:
Amen.  I think this lens rocks, and, though I don't have any other 85's, 
I do have a couple of other highly regarded pentax short telephotos; the 
K105/2.8 and K135/2.5.  I almost always reach for the M85/2.0 first. 

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Re: AF Converter project?

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 Apr 2002 at 12:38, mike wilson wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > How feasible does this sound? 
> 
> Sounds quite feasible to me.
> 
> Nikon register = 46.5mm
> Pentax (I can only find screw but I assume K is the same) =
> 45.46mm
> 
> Therefore spacers will be needed to make the Nikon work, which
> is eaier than removing material to make the PK work on Nikon. 
> Reversible, as well.  Don't know about the aperture mechanism.

Probably wouldn't even need the registration distance corrected as the AF would 
probably take care of the differential. Aperture coupling would prove more 
difficult I'd imagine? I haven't any Nikon gear any longer to check how it all 
works.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: m42 to K adapter -- experience?

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 Apr 2002 at 12:54, Mishka wrote:

> By the way, what prevents one to have an adapter mounted on the lens
> all the time (like adaptall) and use the m42 lens just like any other
> K-mount lens? 
> That may be a stupid question, but I have never used such an adapter.

The K-mount adaptor mounts flush and as such can't be locked into the K mount 
like a conventional K lens (screw lenses don't lock either). In order to 
prevent the K-mount adaptor from falling out of the body (with the screw lens 
attached) it is furnished with a small locking spring that fits into one of the 
K bayonet keys. As such it can only be released from the K mount after the lens 
has been un-screwed.

Moral of the story: Don't Super Glue your K-mount adaptor onto your screw lens 
(without suitable modifications of course) :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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RE: Light Proofing a Darkroom

[Butch Black]

You can get a bolt of heavy plastic sheathing from Home Depot for under $10
US. One layer isn't quite enough so you need to double it up. Get a sheet of
styrofoam insulation, cut it to snugly fit the window, glue the plastic to
the styrofoam leaving about 6" overlap on all 4 sides. Put it in the window,
tape the overlap to the sill with duct tape.

For the door get some self stick weatherstripping and line the jamb. a draft
"snake" on the bottom works well as does a piece of old carpet. If that's
not enough hang a curtain rod (metal u-shaped ones) and use a heavy curtain
that goes to the floor. Remove the snake and curtain when not a darkroom.

BUTCH

"Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself"
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RE: AF Converter project?

[Rob Brigham]

Shame, they dont do one to mount pentax glass on a D30!

I notice they were discontinued a couple of years ago.

> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Chu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 25 April 2002 16:25
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: AF Converter project?
> 
> 
> This is a 1.4x converter that allows mounting a Nikon
> lens to PK mount body.  I don't have one and don't
> know how well it works.
> 
> http://store.yahoo.com/kenkomall/kenkt14mt14x.html
> 
> --- Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone heard of Nikon to PK lens adapters out there?
> > I would buy one in a
> > heartbeat...
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: AF Converter project?
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How feasible does this sound?
> > >
> > > Sounds quite feasible to me.
> > >
> > > Nikon register = 46.5mm
> > > Pentax (I can only find screw but I assume K is
> > the same) =
> > > 45.46mm
> > >
> > > Therefore spacers will be needed to make the Nikon
> > work, which
> > > is eaier than removing material to make the PK
> > work on Nikon.
> > > Reversible, as well.  Don't know about the
> > aperture mechanism.
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 56

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 163


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (2)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (7)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (2)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (3)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
SMC Tak 100 4 (1)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (3)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 30

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.

Members: 94

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (7)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (2)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (23)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (7)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (13)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (3)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (8)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Bodies Survey Results UPDATE 165

[Albano_Garcia]

Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other
members,thanks.
Also, I've not included 110 and digital cameras, just because I started
this way, and I didn't want to change in the middle of the way.
Also, if you already submited and want to add new items, please put clearly
in your message: this is not my first submission, so I don't put you twice
in
the total answers.
Thanks to all contributors.

TOTAL ANSWERS: 465 members
MANUAL FOCUS:

Screw Mount:
- Asahiflex IIa5
- Asahiflex IIb6
- Asahi Pentax (AP)5
- K4
- S1
- SL...8
- SV..10
- S1...3
- S1a.11
- S2...2
- S3...5
- SP500...14
- SP1000..13
- Spotmatic IIa2
- Spotmatic SP69
- Spotmatic SP II.34
- Spotmatic F.43
- Spotmatic F MD...2
- Spotmatic MD.3
- ES..18
- ES II...25
- ElectroSpotmatic.4
- H1...2
- H1a..5
- H2...5
- H3...7
- H3v..5

Bayonette:

- KM..19
- KX..46
- KX MD1
- K2..45
- K2 DMD..13
- K1000...86
- K1000 SE11
- MX.139
- ME..43
- MF-1.1
- ME SE2
- ME Super...144
- ME Super SE..4
- MV...8
- MV1..2
- MG..14
- LX.163
- Super Program...79
- Super A.49
- Program Plus18
- Program A...10
- A30004
- A3...2
- A3(date).1
- P3...8
- P3n..9
- P30..8
- P30n.1
- P30t14
- P5...8
- P50..4
- ZX M25
- MZ M15

AUTOFOCUS:

- ME F11
- SF 1.5
- SFX..4
- SF 1n8
- SFXn13
- SF 7.2
- SF 108
- PZ 120
- PZ 1 SE..2
- Z1..25
- PZ 1p...74
- Z1p.41
- Z5...2
- Z5p..1
- PZ 105
- Z 10.5
- PZ 20...13
- Z 20.5
- Z 50p2
- PZ 706
- Z 70.1
- MZ S33
- MZ 322
- ZX 511
- MZ 515
- ZX 5n...63
- MZ 5n...43
- MZ 6.1
- ZX 7.9
- MZ 7.8
- ZX 10...11
- MZ 10...14
- ZX 308
- MZ 301
- ZX 509
- MZ 50...12

MEDIUM FORMAT:
- 645.19
- 645n.4
- 6x7.19
- 67...9
- 67 II9
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 48

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 11 votes.

Members: 110

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (10)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (5)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (2)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (11)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)
Paterson Acupan 800 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Most Used Body Survey Results UPDATE 4

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- It must be the body you use most (time, quantity of shots, whatever...)
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks

Winner (by now):   LX with 8 votes


Members: 43

Screwmount:
- Spotmatic F (1)

K Manual Focus:
- K 1000 (1)
- KM (1)
- KX (1)
- K2 (1)
- MX (3)
- ME Super (3)
- LX (8)
- Super Program (2)
- P 30t (1)
- ZX M (1)


K Autofocus:
- PZ 1 (1)
- Z 1p (1)
- PZ 1p (3)
- PZ 70 (1)
- MZ S (5)
- MZ 5n (1)
- ZX 5n (3)

Medium Format:
- 6x7 (3)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Re: m42 to K adapter -- experience?

[Fred]

> However, you would find that, without the lens/adapter combo onto
> a K-mount body, there is nothing to keep the diaphragm activating
> lever on the body's K-mount from pushing back against the twisting
> motion you're applying when mounting the adapter to the body - not
> a very stable situation - and you finally realize the reason why
> the little springy locking/unlocking thingie is there in the first
> place.

Oops.  That sentence ~should~ have said:

"However, you would find that, without the little springy
locking/unlocking thingie, there is nothing to keep the diaphragm
activating lever on the body's K-mount from pushing back against the
twisting motion you're applying when mounting the adapter to the
body - not a very stable situation - and you finally realize the
reason why the little springy locking/unlocking thingie is there in
the first place."

Sorry for the incoherence.

Fred
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k-mount to 67 adapter: Silly question

[Christian Skofteland]

Hi All;

A quick silly question:  If I use 6x7 lenses on my K-mount bodies will it be 
open aperture meetering or stop-down metering?  Also is there an adapter to 
mount 645 lenses on K-mount bodies?

Thanks.

Christian
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RE: Light Proofing a Darkroom

[tom]

This is exactly what I've got going on.

One more point - duct tape isn't light proof. 4 layers of duct tape
isn't light proof. 2 layers of Bogen gaffer's tape *is*.

tv

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Butch Black
>
>
> You can get a bolt of heavy plastic sheathing from Home
> Depot for under $10
> US. One layer isn't quite enough so you need to double it
> up. Get a sheet of
> styrofoam insulation, cut it to snugly fit the window, glue
> the plastic to
> the styrofoam leaving about 6" overlap on all 4 sides. Put
> it in the window,
> tape the overlap to the sill with duct tape.
>
> For the door get some self stick weatherstripping and line
> the jamb. a draft
> "snake" on the bottom works well as does a piece of old
> carpet. If that's
> not enough hang a curtain rod (metal u-shaped ones) and use
> a heavy curtain
> that goes to the floor. Remove the snake and curtain when
> not a darkroom.
>
> BUTCH
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Re: Vivitar Series 1 90mm

[Camdir]

Hello Fred & Mishka.

Well, as I do not have an OM body here I cannot say if it requires a tube for 
1:1 - the barrel markings don't suggest anything of the sort. Focusses in the 
opposite direction to Pentax.

This one is well used although all the mechanics & optics are good. We are 
selling it at GBP75. From memory the last independent macro we had of this 
type was the Kiron 105, which was just perfect & went for GBP120.

Kind regards

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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Pentxuser]

Shel what's the rant on the 12mm f2.8??
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Rfsindg]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Well, I paid $320 back in '81 for the M85/2 fairly heavily discounted too.
 Seemed like a lot of money to me back then. It and the 35/2 were about the
 most expensive lenses in the 28 to 200mm range Pentax sold back then. >>

 Yes, the M 85mm f2 was expensive when introduced.  I think I may have 
paid even a bit more shortly after introduction.  It was a real case of 
sticker shock after the M135/3.5 and M28/2.8, my only other lenses.
 In any case, it was my most valued and most used lens for many years.  
Eventually I came to own an A100/2.8 Macro, and that pushed the M85/2 out of 
the small bag I carried most often.
 I used the lens most often indoors with poor light.  Camera shake was a 
bigger enemy than lens sharpness to my photos.  I threw lots of pictures 
away, but have some great pictures remaining.  
Don't hesitate to buy this lens!
Regards,  Bob S. 
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Re: AF Converter project?

[Camdir]

In a message dated 25/04/02 16:13:05 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Therefore spacers will be needed to make the Nikon work, which
 > is eaier than removing material to make the PK work on Nikon. 
 > Reversible, as well.  Don't know about the aperture mechanism.
 
 Probably wouldn't even need the registration distance corrected as the AF 
would 
 probably take care of the differential. Aperture coupling would prove more 
 difficult I'd imagine? I haven't any Nikon gear any longer to check how it 
all 
 works.
  >>
 As an aside, Nikon once made a TC16a similar to the Pentax 1.7x. However, I 
can tell you that it sucks. Bigtime. This mod will be based on the 1.7x AF 
adapter and nothing else.

Kind regards

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Re: Split Image Or Not Split Image

[Patrick White]

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" asks:
>Do any of you prefer the Split Image over the other finders ?
>What cameras do you use that have the split image finders if any ?
>I've been considering a second SLR body to go with the K1000 that may have
this
>feature.

It depends on what you want to use the camera for.  I've got a body (Ricoh)
with a diagonal split-image surrounded by a microprism, a body with a
microprism only (K-1000) and one with a matte screen (PZ-1p).
For macro shots, the matte screen can't be beat.  DOF is so small, and
subjects go out of focus so fast, that getting accurate (manual) focus with
it is pretty easy.  The split image usually goes black under the same
magnifications, and the microprism "pixelates" the images to the point that
they are both worse than ineffective for focus -- they prevent assessing
focus in that part of the image.  I find that having such an invisibility
hole in the center of my macro images to be a major handicap.
On the other hand, for scenics, portraits and just general all-around use,
the split focusing body is my choice for manual focus.  With both the matte
screen and microprism-only one, I've aleays had to guess at focus.  With the
split image I just have to align the edges across the split, and that is
easy.  I'd actually expect that the microprism would be easier than the
matte screen, but it doesn't work that way for me (probably because my brain
processes images in a slightly offbeat way that stresses the importance of
edges).

hope that helps,
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Re: Split Image Or Not Split Image

[Cotty]

>My little Leica CL (a rangefinder) obviously has split image and couldn't 
>do without that ;-)
>
>Really, Cotty? Not a coincident-image (superimposing) rangefinder, like all 
>other RF cameras I'm aware of?

Oh yeah, well, you know what I mean - I mean, I knew what I meant, I 
mean, oh Hell. Forget it!

I don't need to see through viefinders to see double images!

Best,

Cotty

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You Auto 110 guys might be interested in this...

[Norman Baugher]

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1348740895
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Cotty]

>Here's a suggestion: instead of reading tests and what others have to
>say about this lens, or any piece of equipment, wrap your little fingers
>around the barrel and use it.  Decide for yourself if it's suited to
>your needs.  I've numerous 85mm lenses, and while the A*85/1.4 may be
>"better" than the K85/1.8, and the K85/1.8 "better" than the M85/2.0,
>they all have a place and a use, they each have their own unique
>characteristics.  You have to decide what characteristics are most
>important.  I'd be most reluctant to give up any of them.  But if I had
>to give up one, it would not be the M85/2.0

That's got to be one of the single most useful pieces of advice I have 
ever seen on this list! I'll second that.

Cheers,

Cotty

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Re: Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 48

[andre]

I see 3 medalists:

>Kodak Tri-X (11)
>Fuji Velvia (10)
>Fuji Provia 100F (9)


And runner ups...

>Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
>Kodak Supra 400 (5)

etc.

As the number of answers are quite low, a better view would come from 
a choice of 1 film in each category (slides, b&w and color neg) or 3 
films overall.  But that would mean more hours in front of an excel 
sheet...

Andre
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Mishka]

After all the good things I have heard here about M85/2, I am leaning
heavily towards buying one. What does the collective wisdom say, is
$250 a good deal for the one in "Ex++" condition (whatever that means)?
I am afraid, mail order is my only choice. 

And, on a related subject: anyone knows shops that stock on used Pentax
stuff in Boston area? I looked at what Hunt's has (the biggest one, in
Melrose, I think) and wasn't impressed. 

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:20:20 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> << Well, I paid $320 back in '81 for the M85/2 fairly heavily discounted too.
>  Seemed like a lot of money to me back then. It and the 35/2 were about the
>  most expensive lenses in the 28 to 200mm range Pentax sold back then.
>  >>
> 
>  Yes, the M 85mm f2 was expensive when introduced.  I think I may have 
> paid even a bit more shortly after introduction.  It was a real case of 
> sticker shock after the M135/3.5 and M28/2.8, my only other lenses.
>  In any case, it was my most valued and most used lens for many years.  
> Eventually I came to own an A100/2.8 Macro, and that pushed the M85/2 out of 
> the small bag I carried most often.
>  I used the lens most often indoors with poor light.  Camera shake was a 
> bigger enemy than lens sharpness to my photos.  I threw lots of pictures 
> away, but have some great pictures remaining.  
> Don't hesitate to buy this lens!
> Regards,  Bob S. 
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Re: Pentax Program Plus

[James Adams]

Paul,
David said all photos were taken by him with a Kodak DC4800, and he used
photoshop to crop and resize down to 1000 pixels wide.
So the Program Plus is as seen - near mint.
James

> - Original Message -
Paul wrote:
Looks great. Are those photos of the camera or did the seller grab them
from an internet site? In any case, it sounds like a good buy.
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Shel Belinkoff]

$250.00 seems reasonable ... although I don't know why you'd want to
spend that kind of money.  A Sagamo X-RF 90/2.0 for $39.95 might be a
much better deal .

Mishka wrote:
> 
> After all the good things I have heard here about M85/2, I am leaning
> heavily towards buying one. What does the collective wisdom say, is
> $250 a good deal for the one in "Ex++" condition (whatever that means)?
> I am afraid, mail order is my only choice.

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Re: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto photos

[Brendan]

WOW those scans are good! It was great meeting ya
Stan, btw how is the 645 it took a  bit of a bump up
here.

--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi, Stan,
> 
> I think I can see about where we were, but I notice
> from the scoreboard that those
> shots seem to be taken top of the first inning, and
> we were a bit late arriving
> (somewhere between the top and bottom of the
> inning).  Any shots a bit later in the
> game?  I'll take a look at these ones in more detail
> tonight, when I get home from
> work.
> 
> BTW, your native friend (native to Toronto, that is)
> is 1/2 right.  You do drop the
> second "t", but you've added an extra syllable. 
> It's pronounced "Tranna".
> 
> Amazing detail on those big scans!  Wow.  Those big
> negs blow up real good, don't
> they!!
> 
> Nice to get a chance to meet with you, Stan.  Maybe
> next time, I'll come down to
> KC!!
> 
> regards,
> frank
> 
> Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
> > I just did quick scans of some of my Toronto
> photos. Including shots of
> > three of the four PDMLers I met. Brendan managed
> to avoid being in most
> > photos . . .
> >
> > Go to  and look
> in the Toron'o folder. {A
> > native told me that the second "t" in Toron'o is
> not pronounced.} There are
> > two (very large) shots there of the baseball game
> I went to. Frank claims he
> > was "... first base line, about 1/2 way between
> the plate and first, maybe
> > 25  or 30 rows up . . ."  Can you spot him? Frank,
> can you see where you are
> > in either shot?
> >
> > Stan
> >
> 
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Camdir]

In a message dated 25/04/02 18:05:01 GMT Daylight Time, "Graywolf"  writes:

<< I get the feeling that those comments come from folks who thought the lens
 would make them into a great photographer without effort on their part. It
 didn't, so it must be a bad lens. And, then there are the instant experts
 who read lens tests, or read negative comments on the internet and pass that
 on as gospel.
  >>
Well, I am shooting on the 135mm F2.5 Takumar at present. Somewhen around 
next Christmas, when I finish that roll, I'll let you know about it. Everyone 
said it was such a bad lens, I thought I'd have to see for myself. 

KR

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Re: AF Converter Project

[Camdir]

In a message dated 25/04/02 18:05:01 GMT Daylight Time, Richard writes:

<< This is a 1.4x converter that allows mounting a Nikon
 lens to PK mount body.  I don't have one and don't
 know how well it works. >>

Which way round is it, though? ie N body to PK lens? How bizarre. but not 
as bizarre as the Canon FD (oem) FD body - Exakta lens mount adapter. The 
Japanese
absolutely love these.why?

KR

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Re: k-mount to 67 adapter: Silly question

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: Christian Skofteland
Subject: k-mount to 67 adapter: Silly question


> Hi All;
>
> A quick silly question:  If I use 6x7 lenses on my K-mount
bodies will it be
> open aperture meetering or stop-down metering?  Also is there
an adapter to
> mount 645 lenses on K-mount bodies?

Stop down metering, and yes.

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RE: Light Proofing a Darkroom

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Does anyone remember the episode of Get Smart where the chief has introduced a new 
film system, in which proper development requires that the lights be ON? Agent 86 
(Maxwell Smart) walks in, exclaims, "Chief! The lights are on!" and flips them off, 
ruining the development.

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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

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Last night I received my first set of prints from my KX. I shot an indoor event with a 
50, a 135, and mostly with my SMC 200/2.5K, all shots at f/2.8 to f/5.6, with shutter 
speeds ranging from 1/15 to 1/60 second. 

This roll is easily the sharpest I've ever shot indoors without flash. And why? 
Because I used a KX, mostly with mirror lockup, instead of a Super Program.

Three months ago I sold my 85/2M because it disappointed me as soft under such 
conditions. Now I realize that I was probably getting too much camera vibration. I 
loved using the 85/2 outdoors.

T Rittenhouse wrote:

For what it is worth. I have owned the M85/2 and it was sharp enough to piss 
off lady sitters who thought they didn't have skin pores. I have used the 
infamous M28/2.8 and it is a good sharp lens. Maybe a tad soft wide open but 
who normally uses a WA wide open, and if they do why did they buy just a 
2.8.

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Kenko Converter

[Camdir]

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<< Hello Mr. Blake,
 
 Thank you for your interest in our product. Unfortunately we are out of stock
 and will no longer be receiving the Nikon to Pentax. Also, we do not ship
 outside of the United States nor are we set up to accept international credit
 cards.
 
 Regards,
 
 Raul De Dios
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Hello Mr. Blake,

Thank you for your interest in our product. Unfortunately we are out of stock
and will no longer be receiving the Nikon to Pentax. Also, we do not ship
outside of the United States nor are we set up to accept international credit
cards.

Regards,

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> You are listing KT1.4MT is the discontinued products section. We are
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>
> Can you ship to UK? USPS Air/insured (NOT courier service, please)
>
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Re: k-mount to 67 adapter: Silly question

[Camdir]

In a message dated 25/04/02 18:05:01 GMT Daylight Time, Christian writes:

<< A quick silly question:  If I use 6x7 lenses on my K-mount bodies will it 
be 
 open aperture meetering or stop-down metering?  Also is there an adapter to 
 mount 645 lenses on K-mount bodies? >>

1. Stop-down.
2. yes, and it's not cheap. (same price as the 6x7-K)

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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 30

[Mishka]

wouldn't it make more sense to count only incremental votes (meaning,
if someone didn't vote, that means that they just didn't change their
mind/preferences)? that would result in a lot less mail traffic for the
maintainer, i would guess.

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:31:14 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> 1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
> 2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
> owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a
> wish
> list).
> 3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
> 4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members.
> I'll
> not count votes sent to list.
> Regards
> 
> DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
> same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
> must put all this or that together". Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.
> 
> Members: 94
> 
> M42:
> - Spotmatic (1)
> - Spotmatic II (1)
> - Spotmatic SP (2)
> - Spotmatic F (1)
> - SP 500 (2)
> - ES (1)
> 
> K Manual Focus:
> - KX (7)
> - K2 (2)
> - K2 DMD (2)
> - K1000 SE (1)
> - MX (8)
> - ME (1)
> - ME Super (1)
> - LX (23)
> - Super Program (1)
> - Program A (1)
> 
> K Auto Focus:
> - Z1 (1)
> - Z1p (2)
> - PZ1p (7)
> - Z 5 (1)
> - MZ S (13)
> - ZX5n (2)
> - MZ5n (3)
> 
> Medium Format:
> - 645 (1)
> - 6x7 (8)
> - 67 (1)
> - 67II (1)
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[James Adams]

Peter wrote
Well, I am shooting on the 135mm F2.5 Takumar at present.

Although I have both the Super Tak 135mm f3.5 and SMC Tak 135mm f3.5 lenses,
I have tended to use my  SMC Takumar 105mm f2.8 for Portraits.

Now that I'm starting B&W again, I might experiment with 135mm lenses.
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Re: k-mount to 67 adapter: Silly question

[Christian Skofteland]

Thanks!

Christian

On Thursday 25 April 2002 13:27, William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Christian Skofteland
> Subject: k-mount to 67 adapter: Silly question
>
> > Hi All;
> >
> > A quick silly question:  If I use 6x7 lenses on my K-mount
>
> bodies will it be
>
> > open aperture meetering or stop-down metering?  Also is there
>
> an adapter to
>
> > mount 645 lenses on K-mount bodies?
>
> Stop down metering, and yes.
>
> William Robb
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Re: AF converter project

[Camdir]

I found some snaps of the 300mm here:

http://www.concentric.net/~jdq/new.shtml

Jeez, $1950 - I must be in the wrong business. 

Kind regards

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RE: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto photos

[tom]

Ok, who's "ready-to-shoot" guy, and is Brendan the one with the
reversed baseball hat?

I assume Frank is the other guy.

And how'd you make the big scans?

tv

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto photos
>
>
> WOW those scans are good! It was great meeting ya
> Stan, btw how is the 645 it took a  bit of a bump up
> here.
>
> --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi, Stan,
> >
> > I think I can see about where we were, but I notice
> > from the scoreboard that those
> > shots seem to be taken top of the first inning, and
> > we were a bit late arriving
> > (somewhere between the top and bottom of the
> > inning).  Any shots a bit later in the
> > game?  I'll take a look at these ones in more detail
> > tonight, when I get home from
> > work.
> >
> > BTW, your native friend (native to Toronto, that is)
> > is 1/2 right.  You do drop the
> > second "t", but you've added an extra syllable.
> > It's pronounced "Tranna".
> >
> > Amazing detail on those big scans!  Wow.  Those big
> > negs blow up real good, don't
> > they!!
> >
> > Nice to get a chance to meet with you, Stan.  Maybe
> > next time, I'll come down to
> > KC!!
> >
> > regards,
> > frank
> >
> > Stan Halpin wrote:
> >
> > > I just did quick scans of some of my Toronto
> > photos. Including shots of
> > > three of the four PDMLers I met. Brendan managed
> > to avoid being in most
> > > photos . . .
> > >
> > > Go to  and look
> > in the Toron'o folder. {A
> > > native told me that the second "t" in Toron'o is
> > not pronounced.} There are
> > > two (very large) shots there of the baseball game
> > I went to. Frank claims he
> > > was "... first base line, about 1/2 way between
> > the plate and first, maybe
> > > 25  or 30 rows up . . ."  Can you spot him? Frank,
> > can you see where you are
> > > in either shot?
> > >
> > > Stan
> > >
> >
> > --
> > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all
> > possible worlds. The pessimist fears it
> > is true." -J. Robert
> > Oppenheimer
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Re: What is the most quiet body? Leica?! Ha ha...

[Christopher Lillja]

>>>Nothing beats a range finder for the quietness, an advantage of Leica.

Ha ha. Nope. My digital with the sound turned off is totally, totally silent. Blows 
away all my Pentaxes, and my Leica IIIa. It's my tool of choice when I shoot in a 
really quiet classroom, with a shy teacher.

My quietest Pentax is an ancient, incredibly beat up, dead-meter Spotmatic, which I 
love, and I often use in a classroom with a declasse Russian 85/2 mounted. Beautiful 
bokeh, and just soft enough to soften the age spots on our more, ummm, "senior" 
faculty.

Cameras I've used in order of loudness (Loudest first):

Koni Omega (Shutter is quiet but advance is like a rifle shot or, more properly, a 
rifle bolt!)
Nikon N6006
Konica TC
Konica FT1
MZ5 (Quietest Pentax shutter, motor ruins it)
ZX7
Super Program
K1000
ME
Spotmatic

(Big Gap)

Zorki 6
Leica IIIa
Speed Graphic (Leaf shutter)
Sony Digital (Sound turned off)

I use every one of these regularly (except for the Konica FT1, which I've sold.)

Chris L.
School Publications Guy
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Plastic Developing Reels

[Shel Belinkoff]

Recently I read that photo flow can build up on plastic reels causing
loading difficulties or problems as the solution doesn't really wash off
completely.  Has anyone experienced this problem?
-- 
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Re: M6 - Boy am I *dumb*

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 10:10  AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:

> Who was it that thought ...

In case anyone thinks I'm singling someone out for embarrassment, I'll 
point out that simple math eluded me in a series of posts where I 
continually confused the numbers 12,800, 128,000 and 1,280,000.

-Aaron
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Serendipity survey

[oscar . 7300]

Last fall, I was driving home from work with a clear 
view of downtown New York.  I saw a rainbow that 
appeared to begin where the WTC had stood until only a 
month or two before.  It was so clear that I couldn't 
believe that other cars weren't pulling over to look at 
it. I pulled over and was happy I had a camera in the 
car.  No film in the camera.  But there's usually a roll 
or two in the car somewhere, even if only because it 
fell out of a bag.  I searched the car from top to 
bottom.  No luck.  By then, the rainbow was fading 
anyway.

Serendipity lost, I guess.  But perhaps for the best.  
The image would have been a bit of a cliche that was no 
match for the tragedy to which it referred. 

Steve   
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Re: For Aaron

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 11:05  AM, Bill Owens wrote:

> Aaron,
>
> Here's the response I got from my off list email to you.

Thanks, Bill.  Are messages off-list to me still bouncing?

-Aaron
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RE: Plastic Developing Reels

[tom]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
>
>
> Recently I read that photo flow can build up on plastic
> reels causing
> loading difficulties or problems as the solution doesn't
> really wash off
> completely.  Has anyone experienced this problem?

Yeah, though mine kept gunking up even when I stopped using wetting
agent. I'm one 120 reel short of a full set of steel reels now, so I
don't really use plastic anymore.

tv
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ME Super/Motor Drive A

[Ken Archer]

Are these two compatible?

-- 
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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[Shel Belinkoff]

  I've noticed that some of my plastic reels are harder to load
than others, and this morning I looked carefully at all of them.  Some
have a slight discoloration, which may be an indicator of Photo Phlo
Phlegm.  I decided to run those through the dishwasher just to
experiment an see if it has any effect.  I guess it's time for more
Hewes reels. I was going in that direction anyway.

tom wrote:
 
> Yeah, though mine kept gunking up even when I stopped using wetting
> agent. I'm one 120 reel short of a full set of steel reels now, so I
> don't really use plastic anymore.

-- 
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Re: Serendipity survey

[David Brooks]

I quess the 'being in the right place' syndrome was
taking the "Sparkys day at the Farm"(Pug submission
last May or June)
After the foal had been born the 3 dogs came out to the
paddock with their owners and the new dog,Sparky,i think
just wanted to see who the new kid was and play.I just 
had a funny feeling something was going to happen to the
dog so i just kept the camera pointed at him,then boom,
run sparky run.
This picture has won a ribbon at the fair and everyone 
who see's it has a big howl over it.
This is my one and so far only Serendipity shot.

Dave


Pentax User
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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[Brendan]

No but I notice edwal fixer leaves alot of residue on
my plastic reels. I spend more time cleaning the reels
than developing film. Any ideas on a plastic friendly
fixer residue solvent?

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> plastic reels causing
> loading difficulties or problems as the solution
> doesn't really wash off
> completely.  Has anyone experienced this problem?
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RE: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto photos

[Brendan]

No I'm goofier than Dave, the guy with the reversed
baseball cap. Yup that was Frank the "other guy" the
ready to shoot person is Jeff. I managed to hide alot
from Stan when he pointed the 645 my way :-)

--- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, who's "ready-to-shoot" guy, and is Brendan the
> one with the
> reversed baseball hat?
> 
> I assume Frank is the other guy.
> 
> And how'd you make the big scans?
> 
> tv
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brendan
> > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:04 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto
> photos
> >
> >
> > WOW those scans are good! It was great meeting ya
> > Stan, btw how is the 645 it took a  bit of a bump
> up
> > here.
> >
> > --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi, Stan,
> > >
> > > I think I can see about where we were, but I
> notice
> > > from the scoreboard that those
> > > shots seem to be taken top of the first inning,
> and
> > > we were a bit late arriving
> > > (somewhere between the top and bottom of the
> > > inning).  Any shots a bit later in the
> > > game?  I'll take a look at these ones in more
> detail
> > > tonight, when I get home from
> > > work.
> > >
> > > BTW, your native friend (native to Toronto, that
> is)
> > > is 1/2 right.  You do drop the
> > > second "t", but you've added an extra syllable.
> > > It's pronounced "Tranna".
> > >
> > > Amazing detail on those big scans!  Wow.  Those
> big
> > > negs blow up real good, don't
> > > they!!
> > >
> > > Nice to get a chance to meet with you, Stan. 
> Maybe
> > > next time, I'll come down to
> > > KC!!
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > frank
> > >
> > > Stan Halpin wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just did quick scans of some of my Toronto
> > > photos. Including shots of
> > > > three of the four PDMLers I met. Brendan
> managed
> > > to avoid being in most
> > > > photos . . .
> > > >
> > > > Go to  and
> look
> > > in the Toron'o folder. {A
> > > > native told me that the second "t" in Toron'o
> is
> > > not pronounced.} There are
> > > > two (very large) shots there of the baseball
> game
> > > I went to. Frank claims he
> > > > was "... first base line, about 1/2 way
> between
> > > the plate and first, maybe
> > > > 25  or 30 rows up . . ."  Can you spot him?
> Frank,
> > > can you see where you are
> > > > in either shot?
> > > >
> > > > Stan
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all
> > > possible worlds. The pessimist fears it
> > > is true." -J. Robert
> > > Oppenheimer
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Re: For Aaron

[Bill Owens]

Don't know.  I'll send a test and see.

Bill  KG4LOV
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From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: For Aaron


> On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 11:05  AM, Bill Owens wrote:
> 
> > Aaron,
> >
> > Here's the response I got from my off list email to you.
> 
> Thanks, Bill.  Are messages off-list to me still bouncing?
> 
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Re: Pentax Fan who uses his LX 2000

[Joseph McAllister]

on 04/22/02 10:59, Christian Skofteland opined:

> I've always said that if I had an LX 2000, Titanium, or Gold I'd use it.  Why
> not?  As Cesar told me when I made fun of his beat-to-hell LX: "It's a TOOL!"
> 
> Having a rare camera and not using it is like the  a-holes that have a
> vintage Ferrari and don't exercise it on the track.

Why spend a fortune on an LX-2000 when my three LX are still producing good
images? (My opinion, I know...)

I have a friend who is just finishing up a garage down the Puget Sound coast
a bit. Three working bays, and 40 double width parking slots for cars on two
floors, and a three bedroom apartment with a view on the third floor. Now he
doesn't have to remember which rental he left what at, and one or more of
his restoration and racing grease monkeys can work until midight, and be on
it again at dawn!

And he races them at any venue the organizers will pay air freight on the
car, transportation for two, and free lodging for a week surrounding the
event. Surprisingly, he gets to go to lots of places this way.

His cars? A Mix. Andretti's 1978 Lola that he won the F1 championship
piloting, a dozen Ferraris, from coupes to F1, a handful of other F1 and
Indy types, and his current crop of the sexiest Detroit iron for drivers.
He'll have a 2003 Ford GT-40 before they hit the showrooms.

Two years ago (or three) he took my sister to an event in Adelaid, AU for a
week or two. Brought one of the F1 Ferraris. Raced it (he's not that good a
driver,really) against 15 other F1 vehicles, came in 10th, with a blown
engine. The car's still here, but the engine is still at the Ferrari
factory, waiting for a new crank, some rods, and new pistons to be made by
some of the Italian style grease monkeys. So far, the engine rebuild has
cost him $55,000.00 dollars, and they don't know when they will get it
finished. 1970 F1 Ferrarri engine parts are not stocked on the shelf, and
they were never made in any quantity back then.

I have volunteered to occupy the apartment if he would plumb in a darkroom
and leave enough room for a photo studio for cars and models, but he has so
far not taken my offer any further than a nod and a grin.  

Man, I do apologize for the off topic ramble, but my stories must be told!

JoMac, Pentaxian
   "Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh"

   and above the rest.
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Living life  aw  o
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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Plastic Developing Reels


> Recently I read that photo flow can build up on plastic reels
causing
> loading difficulties or problems as the solution doesn't
really wash off
> completely.  Has anyone experienced this problem?

Yes. Pretty ugly isn't it. I still haven't found a solvent that
will remove the goop easily. Howver, a quick rinse in a quart of
water with some borax in it seems to keep it from building up
too much.

William Robb
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: Mishka <
Subject: Re: Portrait lens recommendations?


> After all the good things I have heard here about M85/2, I am
leaning
> heavily towards buying one. What does the collective wisdom
say, is
> $250 a good deal for the one in "Ex++" condition (whatever
that means)?
> I am afraid, mail order is my only choice.

Shot with the M 85mm f/2. I never did get the scan right, and
the PUG image is awfully contrasty. In the original print, you
can count as many hairs of the dawg as you care to.
http://pug.komkon.org/01nov/2Rotties.html

I have both the M85, and the FA77, and frankly, I don't like the
77 anywhere near as much.

William Robb
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Re: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto photos

[Jeff]

Hi Stan,
I hope your Toronto visit was pleasant.
We had a great time dodging raindrops and puddles at the TPDML.
I haven't developped my film yet. I don't know what surprises await me.
Nice shot of that "ready to shoot" guy, but he should go on a diet (not
honey Lager).
If you have a larger JPEG, could you please email me a copy?
Hope to meet again

Jeff
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From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: Cameras at baseball games - Toronto photos


> I just did quick scans of some of my Toronto photos. Including shots of
> three of the four PDMLers I met. Brendan managed to avoid being in most
> photos . . .
>
> Go to  and look in the Toron'o folder. {A
> native told me that the second "t" in Toron'o is not pronounced.} There
are
> two (very large) shots there of the baseball game I went to. Frank claims
he
> was "... first base line, about 1/2 way between the plate and first, maybe
> 25  or 30 rows up . . ."  Can you spot him? Frank, can you see where you
are
> in either shot?
>
> Stan
>
> > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 08:45:29 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Cameras at baseball games
> >
> > Hey, Stan,
> >
> > It was great meeting you last Saturday BTW!  Always nice to meet a list
> > member.
> > I'm glad the weather got a bit (a bit?!?) better for you while you were
here.
> > Weird that we should be at the same game, eh?  Tuesday was a gorgeous
night
> > for
> > ball!
> >
> > We were first base line, about 1/2 way between the plate and first,
maybe 25
> > or
> > 30 rows up.  Pretty good seats, but my 200mm wasn't quite long enough.
> >
> > Luckily, despite the fact that I live here, I'm not so much of a Jays
fan.  So
> > I
> > could still enjoy the game.
> >
> > Hope you had a good trip.
> >
> > regards,
> > frank
> >
> > Stan Halpin wrote:
> >
> >> Frank - I went with a few U.K. and Australian colleagues to the game
last
> >> Tuesday. First night the dome was open, seats along the left field line
with
> >> a great view of the Tower, several of the many BoSox home runs landed
near
> >> us to the delight of my friends who had never seen a baseball game
before. I
> >> think they got it confused with American Football and thought that 14-2
was
> >> a normal score.
> >>
> >> Anyway, on the way in, I had to empty everything out of the small
detachable
> >> knapsack from my Lowepro bag. So I am carrying my 645 with 150mm
mounted,
> >> 35mm lens in one coat pocket, 75mm in the other, and they didn't care
about
> >> any of it. They just wanted to be sure that I left the sack at the
storage
> >> area. I wonder what the reaction would have been if I had worn the
> >> fanny-pack portion of the Lowepro setup. My sense is that that would
have
> >> been ok.
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Re: k-mount to 67 adapter: Silly question

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 Apr 2002 at 12:07, Christian Skofteland wrote:

> Hi All;
> 
> A quick silly question:  If I use 6x7 lenses on my K-mount bodies will it be
> open aperture meetering or stop-down metering?  Also is there an adapter to
> mount 645 lenses on K-mount bodies?

Hi Christian,

Since both the 645 and 67 to K adaptors are designed to allow rotation of the K 
mount body (great when the lens is tripod mounted) they provide no aperture 
coupling. The 67 to 645 adaptor however has aperture coupling but no rotation 
capability.

See: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/pentaxmfvs35mmlenstest.html

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[Bob Rapp]

For those doing colour work and E6, if your stabiliser contains
formaldehyde, avoid plastic reels. Otherwise, unspool the film and stabilise
in an external bath.

Bob
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[Nitin Garg]

The takumar bayonet lenses were cheap consumer grade k-mount lenses.
not worth $100 at all. There are better performing lenses available for
less.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 05:45:18PM -0400, J. Gerace wrote:
> hcan you explain why?
> 
> Nitin Garg wrote:
> 
> >If its the pentax takumar bayonet lens then its very bad.
> >If its the pentax takumar screwmount lens then its expensive tho not
> >bad.
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:57:17PM -0400, J. Gerace wrote:
> >
> >>O.K. - you're starting to scare me.: )  I just 'won' a Pentax 
> >>Takumar 135 2.5 lens on e-bay for $100.Is this bad?
> >>
> >>Julia
> >>
> >>James Adams wrote:
> >>
> >>>Peter wrote
> >>>Well, I am shooting on the 135mm F2.5 Takumar at present.
> >>>
> >>>Although I have both the Super Tak 135mm f3.5 and SMC Tak 135mm f3.5 lenses,
> >>>I have tended to use my  SMC Takumar 105mm f2.8 for Portraits.
> >>>
> >>>Now that I'm starting B&W again, I might experiment with 135mm lenses.
> >>>James
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Re: Portrait lens recommendations?

[J. Gerace]

Well, Thanks...

that was as much as I wanted to spend. I think if I find that I'm 
enjoying aspects about the lens then I'll search for a better one. From 
the little I had time to read - it seemed like it was about 50/50 on 
positives and negatives.I think it'll suit me for right now..if 
not, well, lesson learned, I guess.

take care,

Julia

Ken Archer wrote:

>Julia, 
>
>I have bought and sold on ebay about 200 times.  One thing I have 
>learned is that you have to do your homework before you buy anything on 
>ebay.  March 17 I sold a lens like the one you bought in almost mint 
>condition for $39.00.  Today, a much sought after K 135/f2.5 sold for 
>$181.00 and it was probably a better deal than the one I sold for 
>$39.00.  
>
>If I am not familiar with the going prices on a lens or camera I will 
>do a search on ebay, in this case "Pentax 135mm".  That just shows you 
>what is available.  On the left side of the screen you will see under 
>Show Only, "Completed Items".  There you can find out what the item you 
>want to buy has been selling for.
>
>You can also see what other members of the PDML think of a lens by 
>looking at Stan Halpin's site:
>
>http://www.concentric.net/~Smhalpin/
>
>Ebay is just like a swimming pool...you need to look before you leap.
>
>Ken
>
>On Wednesday 24 April 2002 04:45 pm, J. Gerace wrote:
>
>>hcan you explain why?
>>
>>Nitin Garg wrote:
>>
>>>If its the pentax takumar bayonet lens then its very bad.
>>>If its the pentax takumar screwmount lens then its expensive tho not
>>>bad.
>>>
>>>On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:57:17PM -0400, J. Gerace wrote:
>>>
O.K. - you're starting to scare me.: )  I just 'won' a Pentax
Takumar 135 2.5 lens on e-bay for $100.Is this bad?

Julia
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Re: a deal on ebay

[Brendan]

OMG!

--- Steven Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1348817466
> To bad I didnt see it! :(
> 
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Re: a deal on ebay

[Anthony Farr]

Was $12.99 the BIN price, or just the highest bid before BIN was used?  The
auction page doesn't show BIN as a seperate line once the auction's finished
:(
Another one that got away :(

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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From: "Steven Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1348817466
> To bad I didnt see it! :(
>
> steve
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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[Shel Belinkoff]

Well, I'm just gonna continue retiring the reels as the gunk up and
replace 'em with Hewes reels.

William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Shel Belinkoff
> Subject: Plastic Developing Reels
> 
> > Recently I read that photo flow can build up on plastic reels
> causing
> > loading difficulties or problems as the solution doesn't
> really wash off
> > completely.  Has anyone experienced this problem?
> 
> Yes. Pretty ugly isn't it. I still haven't found a solvent that
> will remove the goop easily. Howver, a quick rinse in a quart of
> water with some borax in it seems to keep it from building up
> too much.

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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[Paul Stenquist]

I've always suspected that Photo-Flo might leave some kind of residue,
so I rinse my reels in water before leaving them out to dry. I don't
know if that's enough, but they seem to be okay. However, they are all
stainless. I don't own any plastic reels.
Paul

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
>   I've noticed that some of my plastic reels are harder to load
> than others, and this morning I looked carefully at all of them.  Some
> have a slight discoloration, which may be an indicator of Photo Phlo
> Phlegm.  I decided to run those through the dishwasher just to
> experiment an see if it has any effect.  I guess it's time for more
> Hewes reels. I was going in that direction anyway.
> 
> tom wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, though mine kept gunking up even when I stopped using wetting
> > agent. I'm one 120 reel short of a full set of steel reels now, so I
> > don't really use plastic anymore.
> 
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e-Bay heads-up for 645 buyers

[Bgpentax]

  Hi Guys..
   This one might go cheap 'cause the seller thinks his gear is PENTEX.

 see item  1348820025   

Regards,
 Bob
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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Ed ...

Years ago I used to use SS reels, and, 25+ years later, when I took up
photography again, I found the plastic reels much easier to load, so I
started using them.  But now Hewes reels will be replacing the plastic
ones.  I admit that I have strayed . 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  Why would anyone use plastic reels?

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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[William Robb]

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> Well, I'm just gonna continue retiring the reels as the gunk
up and
> replace 'em with Hewes reels.

I couldn't possibly do that. I like my Jobo far too much.
William Robb
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Re: Plastic Developing Reels

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hewes makes reels for the Jobo, if I'm not mistaken.  At least they do
for the Jobo hand processing tanks.  Are the reels different for the
powered, rotary tanks?

William Robb wrote:
> 
> > Well, I'm just gonna continue retiring the reels as the gunk
> > up and replace 'em with Hewes reels.
> 
> I couldn't possibly do that. I like my Jobo far too much.
> William Robb

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