Re: Some pictures
Isabell. =-D Not sure about the music though. Great site and great photography, Dario. Cheers, Cot Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Hello
Good to see another woman on the list :-) Danke, Cotty Hi Katrin, I'll help Cotty out here just in case you read his message as I did: Steve (Cotty) is a 6'+ boy photographer :-) LOL. Why thank you Rob, that's the nicest way anyone's ever described me. I do like a little cross dressing, it has to be said disclaimer ;-) Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Re[2]: 645nII
Costs are comparable here in the Great White North then Bruce.For a roll of 120 colour out of the Y-M(12 exposures) is $5.00 Can. 5x5 proofs are about the same $0.55.I can do a roll for under $14.00 Can if all come out.Sometimes i miss frome 12 in the Y-M. I agree to Bruce that MF is more deliberate knowing i only have 10-12 frames to work with. Dave Kevin, There are fewer choices in films for 120/220 than for 35mm. As a general rule, the pro grade films are available, but many of the consumer ones are not. All of the major manufacturers make some roll films. Medium Format is often used for weddings, portraits and landscapes so these types of films are readily available. As to processing cost - my lab charges 2.29 to process a roll of 120 and .49 per proof print (4X5 for my 67). Cost of larger prints are the same as for 35mm. So cost per shot is a little higher because I only get 10 shots per roll (645 gets 16) vs 36 for 35mm. That makes it about 3 times higher for 67 as the cost per roll and development is the same as 35 - just fewer shots. I can tell you that my keeper rate has improved with MF. Probably due to a few factors. 1) The negative is much bigger and so blowups look much better - more detail and tonality. 2) The camera is slower to operate and so I am more deliberate. 3) The cost per print is higher so I don't tend to pop frames off like I would with 35mm (thinking it might be good - almost always isn't). Bruce
Re: OT: The Accessories
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: We buy cars with nice accessories. Why not lenses? Check out the filter! Coz a $175 BIN is too rich for me.. however, I think I'll be watching this for awhile, I wanted an FA50/1.4. In other news, according to UPS, my new Pentax should be on my door step when I get home.. yay! -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: 645nII
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Kevin Waterson wrote: 120, 220, 70mm, polaroid. Supposedly NPC is coming out with a digital back, but I haven't seen any announcement. ok, what is the difference between these backs? A 120 insert gives you 15 shots from a roll of 120, a 220 insert doubles this with 220 film (which lacks the paper backing), and a 70mm insert (or is this a back replacement?) gives 90 shots per roll. The polaroid back lets you use, surprise surprise, polaroid film.. It connects to the inside via some sort of fiber optic cord. The digital back? No idea. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Anthony Farr wrote: Afraid I don't know the word's origins, but I'm sure it's not an acronym, and has no hidden meaning. If it's an abbreviation I don't know the full word. Works for me, I'd just never heard it before.. Is it a derogatory remark, though? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Yes, but you have to send me a quarter. I'll send both of you a quarter if you quit bickering. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: There's an Italian word tirocinio which means apprenticeship, training, so it has to do with somebody trying to learn something. I'll accept this explanation, and now that I've got a history, can cleverly insert the word into my vocabulary in an attept to sound smarter than my friends. :) you'll forget that pro stands for professional, info means information, bino was binoculars, and so on. I'd never heard the term bino either, until recently, on this list witht he DigiBino or whatever they call it. And, because I like to hijack threads, I just registered a domain name for my whole photo musing nonsense, eighteenpercent.com, and now's the time where everyone tells me how witty and smart it is, so I feel good about myself and my head balloons to enourmous size! -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Single use camera
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Kevin Waterson wrote: I was considering a single use / disposable camera for a test run. Kevin, I carry a kodak max OUTDOOR single use with me regularly... just for those times when I've seen Kodak hyping up a new disposable camera they've produced which supposedly had a better lens (the Ektanar lens). This may or may not be any better. I'm sure its more expensive. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: 645nII
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, tom wrote: 120 and 220 are standard MF film sizes. The 645n gets 16 frames per 120 roll, 33 per 220. You need a different back for each because 120 Does the 645n manage to pull an extra frame that the 645 does not? Every specification I've seen for 645 list it as being 15. Also, how difficult and time consuming is it to load an insert, beit 120 or 220? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: DSLRs and viruses
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: Wassat, Brad? I had to leave the computer for a second to take my daily dose of Geritol. (I think you ~have~ to be old to remember Geritol - anyone out there remember Ted Mack's Amateur Hour, sponsored by Geritol? I do...) Time to have another glass of prune juice... -frank In the future, please post messages in english :) Brad Dobo Yeah, instead of that weird Canadian you people are always speaking... -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: DSLRs and viruses
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Peter Alling wrote: How to infect a digital camera. Build a worm that infects a PC. It does nothing except watch for a Digicam to attach to the PC, (easy enough to do). When a digicam attaches emulate the twain driver while uploading a patch to the camera, (this is more difficult). Once done, as Microsoft used to say, where do you want to go from here? This is a fine way to do it, but I think everyone misses the point of just what some obnoxious twit COULD do, assuming one is able to patch camera firmware from the PC: Why infect, why not just scramble and render useless? That would put a serious kink in the onslaught of digital camera sales, because once one version of this is released, a thousand others will come right along after it. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: I'm not complaining, but...
Things happen :-) Good job, Doug! You've had and have your hands full and we all appreciate it. Maris - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: I'm not complaining, but... Knowing that the list has been down of late, and that Doug is doing yeoman work in getting things going, I don't want to complain, but several of my posts that I sent several hours ago still haven't shown up. A couple of them just turned up in the last hour or so, and a couple still are somewhere in cyberspace. Not that I had anything interesting to say... g Anyone else having this problem, or is it just me?
Re: Scanning negs
What scanner are you using, and what computer, OS, and scanning software? Speaking generally, negative film has an orange cast, which has to be dealt with by the software in the process of inverting the negative to a positive image, so there are clearly some additional issues to deal with. Maris - Original Message - From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:56 AM Subject: Scanning negs Hi all, I've recently been scanning a few negatives using my film scanner. I usually scan slides which, once the colour profiles are set up right, require very little (or no) adjustment for colour balance: just a small tweak of the levels to improve contrast, then I can carry on with sharpening and dust removal. Is it too much to expect the same kind of ease when scanning negatives, or do their colours tend to require a bit of Photoshop manipulation, even after registering the film base in the scanner driver? The negs I've been scanning are giving me a slight yellow cast at the moment (mainly Agfa Portrait 160, and a couple from Reala). Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: 645nII
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Kevin Waterson wrote: What range of film is available for the 120 back? Without starting a war, what is a good film? eg Do fuji make film for 645? They do, I've used Reala 100 in my YM124 for colour alot, recently. As for what's a good film? The only answer that seems to matter is whatever you like, and no matter what, the answer always seems to come back to that. What is the cost of a roll for the 120 for the 645? Depends on what you buy. I like to use www.bhphotovideo.com and www.adorama.com for my film purchases, and I always buy gray market. Dunno where you live, but because I'm American, I assume EVERYONE lives in the USA. :) A quick note about Adorama: Again, I'm left with nothing but good feelings for these guys. I highly suggest them as a first choice when buying something. Is a mid roll change possible with the 120? (that would be nice) I do not think it is. I'll let someone smarter answer that. How do processing costs compare with 35mm? I do mostly BW, so it doesn't cost me any more, really. I also take my colour 120 to a Ritz camera nearby (with a Frontier), and they charge me the same price as a 12 roll of 135 film (I'm having them develop and print a roll of 120 6x6s, which I get back as 4x4 prints). -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Single use camera
In a message dated 10/9/02 11:33:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Really for what they cost and ease of use, etc, they are really fantastic cameras. I know they don't suit most of us here (unless in unusual circumstances or emergencies (when your backup's backup goes :)) My brother 2 years go spent the summer in Western Europe and had a bunch of I think Fuji 800 speed. He actually had some really nice shots. Of course, he went with 3 buddies and every other picture was taken by a waitress/hostess of them in all the different bars, pubs, and clubs. It was basically a BIG club hop trip for them :) So ya, if you want to record memories, or scenery you really can't beat disposables for the money and easy of use. (Lets not get into digital cameras and the point at which they pay for themselves :)) Brad Dobo I have to disagree here. If I'm going to spend whatever it costs to develop film, I want it to be high quality. My daughter often uses a Samsung point and shoot camera we have around the house and whenever I develop the film I wonder if I should just ditch the camera. (And this is a decent little point and shoot.)If the conditions are perfect, the camera is capable of good 4x6 pictures, but if flash is required the pictures usually begin to fall apart. I can't imagine getting good pictures with a disposable loaded with 800 asa film. I recognize that everyone has different expectations of the film they get back, but disposables are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for anyone who cares, in the least, about their photos. Vic
RE: 645nII
-Original Message- From: gfen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, tom wrote: 120 and 220 are standard MF film sizes. The 645n gets 16 frames per 120 roll, 33 per 220. You need a different back for each because 120 Does the 645n manage to pull an extra frame that the 645 does not? Yes. Also, how difficult and time consuming is it to load an insert, beit 120 or 220? Um, it takes 15-45 secs to get the film loaded in the insert depending on what mood the film is in. To get the insert in the camera is just a twist of a button. tv
Re: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
In a message dated 10/9/02 11:57:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey ladies, gentleman and old-farts :), Another email to get away from digital :) I had a wierd thought. (I know, setting myself up for a stupid joke :)) I was thinking about why the major camera manufacturers don't release a VHS tape series (or DVD) on how to use *their* camera. It may not be the same as yours, but it's pretty general all around. A good 4-8 course on basic usage, with different available accessories, can not only teach you some photography and (ie Pentax's system) specifically deal with said system. Moreover, what a great way to advertise the number of accessories available. Maybe cost a $100. Maybe I'm very wrong here, but wouldn't that be something that people buying entry-level SLRs want? Ok, so leads me to just one question. They would (in above) use either the best new camera (MZ-S?) or the best selling SLR they currently make. So, the question is does anyone *know* what is the best seller OR (Yes Bruce we are going to guess) care to offer their choice/opinion of a best seller? Brad Dobo Pentax did exactly that with the PZ1. I have a copy of the video. I also have a copy of an older Pentax video along the same lines that I think was available during the LX era. It is pretty basic but it's ok.. Vic
Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Cotty wrote: 4 -The new Hasselblad H1 is no longer 6x6, it's 6x4.5. Indeedy-doody. With lenses made by Fuji, not Zeiss (how do you pronounce that, anyhoo?).. Its caused quite the uproad on rec.photo.mediumformat or whatever its called. MF users want top quality with good portability. Their sensor sizes will perhaps level off around 6X4.5, who knows. But their sensor quality will continue to increase, and they will welcome that. MFD will be costly, but professionals have to spend money on expensive things or they will get taxed on it :-) Something tells me 6x6, as for some reason people seem to insist on this size.. Myself, I don't care for 6x6, as I'm going to want to crop down to 645 anyway. Except this wasn't about me... :) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Re: deteriorated foam rubber - self-repair?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your statement. I guess what CLA means, but could you please tell me the long words of this abbreviation? I agree with you that those cameras are worth the costs. Clean Lubricate Adjust -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: 645nII
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, tom wrote: Um, it takes 15-45 secs to get the film loaded in the insert depending on what mood the film is in. To get the insert in the camera is just a twist of a button. And for someone who's never done it before? 45 minutes? I managed to figure out the loading in my TLR pretty quickly, though.. the only place I hang up on it now is getting the stupid spools to lock into place. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
Like these? http://www.nikonmall.com/category.asp?search_id=4 I was thinking about why the major camera manufacturers don't release a VHS tape series (or DVD) on how to use *their* camera.
Re: age of cameras
On 10 Oct 2002 at 14:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Is it possible to find out in what year a camera was manufactured? I'm just curious who the older is, my me/mx or me ^_^ Hi Katrin, Without copies of the original purchase documents for the camera its not possible to determine its actual age. You can however get an idea of the period over which the particular model was manufactured from Boz's site at: http://www.BDimitrov.de/kmp/ Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Scanning negs
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking generally, negative film has an orange cast, which has to be dealt with by the software in the process of inverting the negative to a positive image, so there are clearly some additional issues to deal with. i have had the most success with older lower and mid-range scanners by scanning as a positive, inverting in Photoshop, and then using Auto Levels to give me a starting point. newer scanners do a much better job and i let the Twain driver take care of most of the conversion. Herb
Re: New lens got me thinking
Is this the same analogy as whether to carry a 45-125/f4 zoom or just a plain 135/2.8 prime for the long end? Francis M. Alviar Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:12:06 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New lens got me thinking Plain Text Attachment [ Save to my Yahoo! Briefcase | Download File ] Just picked up a mint SMC M100/2.8 and it got me thinking. (Anything to get my mind off this Digital discussion) I've always had a craving for an 80-200/2.8. They are certainly convenient and very high quality lenses. Problem is, they are big, heavy and very expensive. So I was thinking. Would I rather go out with my miniature 100/f2.8, my 200/f2.5, and maybe the 120/f2.8 or the 80/f2, as opposed to lugging out the 80-200/f2.8. Certainly there would be less changing of lenses with the zoom. But, if you're like me, you often end up using the zoom more or less at its two extremes most of the time — At the 80 end or the 200 end. Not a lot of in between stuff. In fact, I usually end up at the long end wishing for more. The zoom seems like overkill if you're mostly using it at around 80 or 100, surely the 80/f2 or the 100/f2.8 is a better choice. And it's even pretty big at the 200 end compared to say the 200A*/f2.8 or the older 2.5. Maybe I'm better off without the 80-200/f2.8. Just some food for thought. What do you think? Vic __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com
Re: 6x7 flare
It's most likely that this flare comes from the camera front, and is not a leak through the back. The unflared (darker) strip along the edge is the shadow of the film-gate or some part of the mirror box immediately next to the film-gate's edge. There is a small chance that it's light leakage through the finder that's getting past the raised mirror. This would be absent when the camera is held to your eye and worst when shooting with an uncovered waist-level finder or no finder. A light leak from the front of the camera is so unimaginable I can't begin to think where it might originate. However, I feel most strongly that it's flare from a bright light source just outside the frame that is within the lens's image circle. This bright image would reflect from one of the mirror box's surfaces and you should inspect your camera for a shiny spot or lost paint/baffling material close to the edge of the frame, possibly on the underside of the mirror. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I can't remember if my post last night actually made it to the list. Rather than re-type it (I don't keep a sent folder) I'll just point you to the image of some flare I've had with my Pentax 6x7. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/flare-1.jpg I had this kind of flare on 3 frames (I think) of 120 neg film with two different lenses. Always the same part of each frame. In most cases the flare did not extend outside the frame (and never to the edge of the film). All the affected frames had a thin strip at the edge with no flare at all (as you can see in the image). Can anyone offer a plausible explanation? Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: age of cameras
On 10 Oct 2002 at 14:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Is it possible to find out in what year a camera was manufactured? I'm just curious who the older is, my me/mx or me ^_^ Mine was bought new in 1981. I think you can only roughly date them based on the years they were in production. The ones with a metal film holder came before my model which has a plastic film holder, so you could date some a little more accurately. Is that right, chaps? --- Wendy Beard
Re: Heard it from a rep...
yeah, that may be true, but the bad news is that the nikon list is populated by mindless wienies. At 01:24 PM 10/9/02 -0400, you wrote: snip So, I got this from the Nikon list (which can take a lickin' but keep on tickin' - sorry Doug): more snippage
Re: Mmmmmm
- Original Message - From: Shaun Canning Subject: Mm Someone want to lend me a couple a grand? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1387520130 Read his shipping info and buy with confidence. NOT. Even if I was interested in another lens for my little cameras, I wouldn't touch this guys auction. William Robb
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
Dario, Shaun and Rob have put a better definition to the word Tyro than my own misty memory could manage. Yes, a keen student is more precise than is a keen amateur. There's definitely no slur involved, it's actually a quite neutral term, emotively speaking. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Works for me, I'd just never heard it before.. Is it a derogatory remark, though?
Re: New lens got me thinking
I also tend to use the extremes rather than framing a shot with the zoom capabilities. And there's no question that I would rather spend the money on some good primes than on an expensive zoom. I tend to buy zooms as conveniencelenses so the last thing I want is this expensive heavy thing. I would be tend by high quality slower zooms, however, if they were light enough. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
- Original Message - From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) Subject: RE: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question Like these? http://www.nikonmall.com/category.asp?search_id=4 Nikon also used to put on a travelling road show called the Nikon School (I don't know if the program is dropped, or if Regina just doesn.t get it anymore). This was a terrific program that taught photographic theory. The slide shows were top notch (not surprising considering the photo luminaries who use Nikon), and the speakers were erudite and helpful. They were about photography, they were not live infomercials for Nikon equipment. William Robb
Re: OT: The Accessories
- Original Message - From: gfen Subject: Re: OT: The Accessories In other news, according to UPS, my new Pentax should be on my door step when I get home.. yay! If it is there, buy a lottery ticket. William Robb
Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
- Original Message - From: gfen Subject: Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future? On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Cotty wrote: 4 -The new Hasselblad H1 is no longer 6x6, it's 6x4.5. Indeedy-doody. With lenses made by Fuji, not Zeiss (how do you pronounce that, anyhoo?).. Its caused quite the uproad on rec.photo.mediumformat or whatever its called. foo gee or Zise William Robb
Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
- Original Message - From: gfen Subject: Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Yes, but you have to send me a quarter. I'll send both of you a quarter if you quit bickering. Bruce accepts Paypal. William Robb
RE: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
Nikon has several different ones now: http://www.nikonschool.com/ BR -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Nikon also used to put on a travelling road show called the Nikon School (I don't know if the program is dropped, or if Regina just doesn.t get it anymore).
Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
Zeiss rhymes with nice. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Zeiss (how do you pronounce that, anyhoo?)..
Re: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote: Nikon also used to put on a travelling road show called the Nikon School (I don't know if the program is dropped, or if They do, my friend's mother and aunts attended one of these not more than six months ago in the Lehigh Valley, PA area. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: I'm not complaining, but...
I agree, The major-domo as used by the Vancouver Linux User Group and the old PDML took hours for posts to appear. I've had replies to my posts appear ages before the post reach my server(My emails are downloaded automatically every 5 minutes from my server). James
Re: Digital! I got digital!
So I declare myself as hero of the day for choosing a Pentax digicam instad of one of its competitors:-) Maybe there's really something like loyality, at least in situations like these where an objective decision between nearly identical products from different manufacturers is impossible. I hope that the Optio will arrive tomorrow or on Saturday... Where did you order it from? I ordered one from Pixmania last week but they told me they've been recalled and will be re-released later in the month due to a problem with the USB interface - I hope they do, I'll be buying one before Christmas to replace the Yashica PS that gets family use, and it'll either be an Optio 330GS (cheap option) or the Canon S30 (dear option) if the 330GS never appears - S30 has lots of manual options but is 100 euro dearer Of course, I ordered a 128 meg CF card and a CF reader (so the USB problem wouldn't have affected me anyway) and they are here. Nice card - shame there's no camera to go with it...
Results! of the SMC Pentax K-Mount Extreme Telephoto Prime Lens Poll
THE RESULTS OF THE PDML SMC PENTAX K-MOUNT EXTREME TELEPHOTO PRIME LENS POLL: 1st place (32 points): SMC Pentax-FA* 1:2.8 300mm EDIF 2nd place (24 points): SMC Pentax-FA* 1:4 600mm EDIF 3rd place (20 points): SMC Pentax-A* 1:2.8 300mm EDIF 3rd place (20 points): SMC Pentax-FA* 1:4.5 300mm EDIF 3rd place (20 points): SMC Pentax-A* 1:2.8 400mm EDIF 6th place (17 points): SMC Pentax-FA* 1:5.6 400mm EDIF 7th place (12 points): SMC Pentax-A* 1:8 1200mm EDIF 8th place (8 points): SMC Pentax-F* 1:4.5 300mm EDIF 9th place (6 points): SMC Pentax-A* 1:5.6 600mm EDIF 10th place (5 points): SMC Pentax-F* 1:4 600mm EDIF 11th place (4 points): SMC Pentax 1:8/1000 12th place (3 points): SMC Pentax-A* 1:4 300mm 13th place (2 points): SMC Pentax Reflex 1:13.5 2000mm 14th place (1 point): SMC Pentax-M* 1:4 300mm 14th place (1 point): SMC Pentax 1:4.5/500 14th place (1 point): SMC Pentax Reflex 1:11 1000mm 31 votes were collected. As in the previous polls, everybody's first choice got 3 points. 2nd and 3rd choices got 2 and 1 points, respectively (if different lenses were chosen). However, not all votes included 3 choices. Thanks again to all members of the PDML who voted. Next will be a poll on SMC Pentax Macro Lenses (starting tonight). Arnold
Re: OT: Anybody want it?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, it was written: ALSO Cord has a couple of AF200T flashes $19.95 ea. Anyone want one? This is one of those times I wish I understood flash, because I'd like to pick one up, mainly because I've come to realize there's times where you need flash, and the on-camera built-in on the -5n won't cut it, plus I guess I should use a bracket to mount it off camera? (I'm hoping this sparks a discussion on flash usage, and what would work best on a -5n and 645, also, if I decide to add an old K body to my collection, would an AF flash still work correctly?). -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Digital! I got digital!
Hi Tim, on 10 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list: I hope that the Optio will arrive tomorrow or on Saturday... Where did you order it from? I ordered one from Pixmania last week but they I'm living in Germany and ordered it from Foto Koch (www.fotokoch.de). I've ordered it 5 or 6 hours ago and they had 2 on stock. told me they've been recalled and will be re-released later in the month due to a problem with the USB interface - Ohoh... I hope my Optio will be OK... I hope they do, I'll be buying one before Christmas to replace the Yashica PS that gets family use, and it'll either be an Optio 330GS (cheap option) or the Canon S30 (dear option) if the 330GS never appears - S30 has lots of manual options but is 100 euro dearer I'm quite sure that the GS appears soon. It has a good price and might be a real cash cow for Pentax in the christmas business. I don't remeber the S30 prices, but wouldn't a 330RS or even a 430RS an alternative? They provide many manual functions. Of course, I ordered a 128 meg CF card and a CF reader (so the USB problem wouldn't have affected me anyway) and they are here. Nice card - shame there's no camera to go with it... I keep my fingers crossed for you... Regards, Heiko
SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll
Hello PDML the list works properly again, so I can start the next poll, the SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll You are invited to choose 3 lenses among the SMC Pentax Macro lenses. Please IMAGINE that you have no Macro lens for your k-mount camera. Also IMAGINE that you have enough money and a good opportunity to buy k-mount SMC PENTAX MACRO lenses in k-mount. What SMC Pentax k-mount macro lens would you like to get and use most (1st choice)? What lens would you pick as your 2nd choice, if your first choice was not available? What lens would you pick as your 3rd choice (if your 1st and 2nd choice were not available)? Please choose among the following lenses: A50/f2.8 Macro F50/f2.8 Macro FA50/f2.8 Macro K50/f4 Macro M50/f4 Macro A100/f2.8 Macro F100/f2.8 Macro FA100/f2.8 Macro FA100/f3.5 Macro K100/f4 Macro M100/f4 Macro A100/f4 Macro K100/f4 Bellows A*200/f4 Macro ED FA*200/f4 Macro EDIF The Dental versions of the A100/f4 Macro and M100/f4 Macro will be included with the non-dental versions. Rules: 1.) Pick your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice (please choose different lenses, because only per lens only one choice will be counted). You may choose less than 3 but not more than 3 choices. 2.) Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] unless you want to send it to the PDML, e.g. with comments. 3.) I will count all votes that are sent before Sunday, October 13th, 21:00 hours German time. Have fun with this poll, again, and thanks, again, in advance for contributing. Arnold
67 grip question.
Hi everyone, I want to acquire a wooden grip in 'fair' condition (no point in an as new, as my 67 has some slight cosmetic damage) and prices seem to vary greatly. Can anyone suggest a pay no more than figure, for one that would fit my requirements? Thanks, Malcolm
Re: RE: age of cameras
I bought my MX in september 1977, body-no. 0500 921. It had a metal film holder. Regards Bernd - original Nachricht I'm not aware of any compilation of serial #'s and year of mfg. Those of us who bought them new, and still can remember what year that was, could post that info to the list. I'll have to my 1982 MX at home. BR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi! Is it possible to find out in what year a camera was manufactured? I'm just curious who the older is, my me/mx or me ^_^ thx bye Katrin --- original Nachricht Ende -- Neue Freunde finden! Spielend in Kontakt kommen und neue Freunde finden in der freenet.de Community! Jetzt durchstarten unter: http://www.freenet.de/tipp/community/
Re: Digital! I got digital!
I'm quite sure that the GS appears soon. It has a good price and might be a real cash cow for Pentax in the christmas business. I don't remeber the S30 prices, but wouldn't a 330RS or even a 430RS an alternative? They provide many manual functions. Only downside of the 330RS is that for similar money to the S30, you only get two aperture settings and it doesn't support microdrive. Also the Canon has RAW mode as well as Jpeg. The 330GS appeals with its price point...
Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll
A100/f2.8 Macro A*200/f4 Macro ED F50/f2.8 Macro --
Re: New lens got me thinking
I would be tend by high quality slower zooms, . . . I think I meant to say I would tend to buy high quality slower zooms, . . . (I'll blame the spell checker 8^)
[Fwd: A new ad for Manfrotto]
Hi Flavio, Very nice and kind of cute, except for the harsh lighting and the bluish lighting. Also there are too many shadows for me, otherwise it's a great idea. Sincerely, Ryan I'll try again, just in case. I had some replies but never saw my own message either in the digests or as a single message. Ciao, Flavio Original Message Subject: A new ad for Manfrotto Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 16:46:22 +0200 From: Flavio Minelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] BCC: PaMa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all. I tried to create a new ad for Manfrotto starting from some fun shots I took of my son playing with my new tripod, why don't you have a look and send me some comments? It's just for fun, but I could send it to Manfrotto, just in case they like it... http://space.tin.it/arte/flamin/Adv-Manfrotto.jpg (It's about 130 Kb, sorry) Ciao, Flavio __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
I wouldn't quite go that far. Good film scanned on a good printer will still be better than an image from a 6MP DSLR. But they are close, no doubt. Certainly close enough for my needs. Sorry - that should, of course, read ' Good film scanned on a good scanner...' Cheers, Cot Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Hello
first it was a bit hard going but after a few times it was better. when I stretch it then after about half a centimeter there's a bit resistance but once over it it's normal until the end... maybe it is because there is no film in it yet... but it seems to work because the numbers on the picture counter move.. The MX film wind-on lever has a stand-off position, whereby the wind lever only starts winding film and cocking the shutter from this position. The stand-off position is also used as a facility to keep the light meter switched on after half-depressing the shutter button to activate the meter. EG, move the film wind-on lever to stand-off position, presss the shutter release button gently, and you will feel a click as the meter locks into the on position. Or leave it in the fully retracted position and just gently press the shutter release to activate the meter, switching it off after moving your fingfer off the shutter release. I think I could have explained that better ;-) HTH Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
October Pug - three favorites
Thru the Windscreen by Facit - The impressionistic style works for me as well as the colors from the umbrella. Boom by Brendan MacRae - I submitted a lightning shot as well. I like Brendan's because of lighting and detail on the cloud bottoms. Very ominous. I See the Light by Ken Waller - Wonderfully framed using all the elements of style I try so hard (and fail) to use. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT Listguy.Thanks and a ??
Hayg Doug.Thanks for all the work getting the list back up.I'm sure your pooped by now. One quick question.Is the list not recognizing free email accounts?I'd like to get my canoemail.com back on the list as it is easier to manage than this one but no luck yet.Something your still working on??or i'm out of luck for now. Thanks again Dave Brooks
Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:45:54 +0200 Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello PDML the list works properly again, so I can start the next poll, the SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll umm, I use a bellows... Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Kevin Waterson Byron Bay, Australia
Re: OT: Anybody want it?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, it was written: ALSO Cord has a couple of AF200T flashes $19.95 ea. Anyone want one? This is one of those times I wish I understood flash, because I'd like to pick one up, mainly because I've come to realize there's times where you need flash, and the on-camera built-in on the -5n won't cut it, plus I guess I should use a bracket to mount it off camera? (I'm hoping this sparks a discussion on flash usage, and what would work best on a -5n and 645, also, if I decide to add an old K body to my collection, would an AF flash still work correctly?). Boz's site is explicit on this topic (Analog TTL flashes do TTL on all bodies, digital TTL flashes only work TTL on digital bodies). Some good information also on cords. Just google Boz and Pentax and take second entry. So K bodies and 645 only work with older analog flashes (Pentax, Metz etc.). If you don't like tele adapter etc., some Metz are good options as they zoom. Maybe you could try to start a thread with specific questions, and see what happens. Cheers, Andre --
RE: New lens got me thinking
Well, if portability is an issue I'd opt for the 100mm and the 200mm. I wouldn't bother with the 85 or 120, cause they're too close to the 100. I'd go for the zoom if flexibility was most important (and in overt photojournalism - i.e. when you're not bothered that your subject knows you're there). Still, if you don't have the need for autofocus and the 2.8 speed, the Series 1 Vivitars 70-210/3.5 should do well - the second one (with the 62mm filter thread) is supposed to be smaller than the first one, but even the latter isn't that big (sure it's not an M135/3.5 but not a Tokina ATX 2.8 either). Just my two cents, Łukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New lens got me thinking Just picked up a mint SMC M100/2.8 and it got me thinking. (Anything to get my mind off this Digital discussion) I've always had a craving for an 80-200/2.8. They are certainly convenient and very high quality lenses. Problem is, they are big, heavy and very expensive. So I was thinking. Would I rather go out with my miniature 100/f2.8, my 200/f2.5, and maybe the 120/f2.8 or the 80/f2, as opposed to lugging out the 80-200/f2.8. Certainly there would be less changing of lenses with the zoom. But, if you're like me, you often end up using the zoom more or less at its two extremes most of the time — At the 80 end or the 200 end. Not a lot of in between stuff. In fact, I usually end up at the long end wishing for more. The zoom seems like overkill if you're mostly using it at around 80 or 100, surely the 80/f2 or the 100/f2.8 is a better choice. And it's even pretty big at the 200 end compared to say the 200A*/f2.8 or the older 2.5. Maybe I'm better off without the 80-200/f2.8. Just some food for thought. What do you think? Vic
Re: Hello
well, the 50mm is a pentax 1.7 (I own 2 of them now ^_^) and the zoom is a albinar 1.38 On 9 Oct 2002, at 16:41, frank theriault wrote: Hi, Katrin, First, let me add my welcome to the list, along with the others. Second, $115US (or thereabouts) for an MX, with 50mm Pentax lens, 80-200 zoom and camera bags is an ~excellent~ price! It may be an even better deal than that, depending on the lenses. I'm assuming the 50mm lens is likely an M f2.0. If it's better than that (like a 1.7 or a 1.4, then you scored. I'm also assuming that the zoom is a piece of crap generic thing. If it's a brand-name one (maybe a Pentax?), then you scored big! I too have an MX, and I love it - it very quickly became my number one body (then again, I was using Spotmatics up to that point). You'll find that there are many on this list who are up on the latest equipment out there, but you'll also find many who still own, love and use their older equipment. You should be able to learn lots about your MX, your ME and photography in general here. Don't be afraid to ask questions. We're mostly a pretty friendly bunch. :-) regards, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! thanks for the nice welcome ^_^ I got my mx today, seems to be ok so far, although I have to buy some batteries and haven't taken any pics yet only the Rapid- Wind-lever or whatever it is called feels a bit strange at least compared to my me...I paid 120 Euro (about 115 US$?) for the body, a pentax 50mm lens, a 80-200 mm tele, a matching bag (don't know how to call them in english) and a cute camera bag for the camera and about two other lenses in red leather which is probably as old as the camera... there were even uv filters on the lenses but one is full of scratches... To me that seemed ok... now please don't tell me that it was too much, but to me it seemed the other auctions ended higher... it was a buy now... bye Katrin On 9 Oct 2002, at 17:14, Cotty wrote: Hi Katrin, Welcome to the list! Things are a bit hectic here at the moment as the computer that holds the list was (presumably) broken until very recently, and even now things are not quite steady. There is some 'tweaking' still going on, hence your first post not making it. You will find the MX a joy to use, it is so simple and beautiful. I have 2 of them - one retired, one still seeing plenty of active service. Good to see another woman on the list :-) Danke, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. ** -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: Hello
You can pretend that's a soft-focus filter! LOL that's the idea a 2-in-one lense... even better then a normal uv filter *g* ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: age of cameras
I found this page here... http://members.iinet.net.au/~cam/serial/ mine mx has 919 and the me has 123 sorry for the stupid question, but which part is the film holder? my english is not at it's best when it comes to photography.. but I hope that changes soon ^_^ thanks On 10 Oct 2002, at 9:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine was bought new in 1981. I think you can only roughly date them baseds on the years they were in production. The ones with a metal film holder came before my model which has a plastic film holder, so you could date some a little more accurately. Is that right, chaps? --- Wendy Beard ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: Some pictures
http://www.dariobonazza.com I love London #19! London #17 is my fave. What a wonderful juxtaposition! I find #16 is the funniest... --
Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll
Kevin Waterson schrieb: the list works properly again, so I can start the next poll, the SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll umm, I use a bellows... There is one bellows lens in the poll, the K100/f4 Bellows Maybe you would be wanting that? Arnold
Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll
1. FA*200/4 EDIF (one of my fantasy lenses). 2. A100/2.8 Macro (my current macro lens, a sweetheart that I also use for portrait work when I want a part of someone's body or face). 3. K100/4 bellows (for work in the garden when I finally break down and get the bellows for the LX and true macrophotography). Tom From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Universität Hamburg Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:45:54 +0200 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:02:38 -0400 Hello PDML the list works properly again, so I can start the next poll, the SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll You are invited to choose 3 lenses among the SMC Pentax Macro lenses. Please IMAGINE that you have no Macro lens for your k-mount camera. Also IMAGINE that you have enough money and a good opportunity to buy k-mount SMC PENTAX MACRO lenses in k-mount. What SMC Pentax k-mount macro lens would you like to get and use most (1st choice)? What lens would you pick as your 2nd choice, if your first choice was not available? What lens would you pick as your 3rd choice (if your 1st and 2nd choice were not available)? Please choose among the following lenses: A50/f2.8 Macro F50/f2.8 Macro FA50/f2.8 Macro K50/f4 Macro M50/f4 Macro A100/f2.8 Macro F100/f2.8 Macro FA100/f2.8 Macro FA100/f3.5 Macro K100/f4 Macro M100/f4 Macro A100/f4 Macro K100/f4 Bellows A*200/f4 Macro ED FA*200/f4 Macro EDIF The Dental versions of the A100/f4 Macro and M100/f4 Macro will be included with the non-dental versions. Rules: 1.) Pick your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice (please choose different lenses, because only per lens only one choice will be counted). You may choose less than 3 but not more than 3 choices. 2.) Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] unless you want to send it to the PDML, e.g. with comments. 3.) I will count all votes that are sent before Sunday, October 13th, 21:00 hours German time. Have fun with this poll, again, and thanks, again, in advance for contributing. Arnold
Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
With lenses made by Fuji, not Zeiss (how do you pronounce that, anyhoo?).. Zeiss rhymes with vice. :-) Cot Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Digital! I got digital!
today I did something crazy. Inspired by the whole DSLR threads and especially Cotty's digital adventure (that I'm following in his digital diary - keep on writing, Cotty!), I have ordered a digital camera. You dear sweet thing, Heiko. Bless you. And you even did one better than me - you got a Pentax digital ;-) I'm in bed with Darth Bloody Vader. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Digital! I got digital!
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Cotty wrote: I'm in bed with Darth Bloody Vader. Watch out for the light sabre... -- http://www.eighteenpercent.com - http://www.infotainment.org photography - being no part of it
Re: Some pictures
Deb wrote: I also dig the athletic person in front of the windmills at Essex. This could have been a typical touristy shot of a buddy with the windmill, but as it is, it's truly unique. The story of that photo. I was touring Essex together with a friend of mine and I had just taken a few typical tourist shots. I was thinking to leave the windmill, when a young girl arrived, together with her mother. As soon as the girl saw the windmill, she probably got the idea to mimic it, and did a twirl. Too quick and too unexpected, so I was unable to take a shot. However, I thought it was too nice a picture to miss it, hence I asked the girl (and his mum, of course) for a kind replay, promising them an enlargement. I was lucky, since Hannah (the girl) was a young dancer from Scotland, not shy and already accustomed to play in public and she agreed to be my subject for a couple of pictures. Of course, once back home to Italy, I chose the best picture and I mailed her an enlargement. I believe both she and me were quite happy with that picture. The kite gallery is really inspiring for me, especially frames 2, 5, 7, 10, and 11. We have two kite festivals on South Padre Island during the year, and I think one is coming up. Over here, that event usually takes place in April each year. There are also more kite festivals here and there in Italy, but IMO this is by the best one, since the place is so good both for the wind and the location for nice photos. As a bonus, it's just a few Kms from my home. Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
RE: Digital! I got digital!
gfen wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Cotty wrote: I'm in bed with Darth Bloody Vader. Watch out for the light sabre... Comparison with digital and film will you do..much will you evaluatefilm is not of the dark side... Malcolm
Re: Anybody want it?
I'm interested in a flash if there's one still available.. - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl collinb@@safe-t.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: OT: Anybody want it? Ektagraphic III A autofocus projector 125/3.2 Raynox lens One 140 tray. Shipped in US: $125 ALSO Cord has a couple of AF200T flashes @ $19.95 ea. Anyone want one? Collin
Re[2]: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
Hi, With a last name like fenstermacher, you'd think I'd have this German thing down... it's pretty easy really: -ei- is like ice, lice, rice, nice, dice, mice, spice, Zeiss... -ie- is like wiener, as in schnitzel. alles in ordnung! --- Bob Thursday, October 10, 2002, 3:24:00 PM, you wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote: foo gee I knew that one, but it makes me laugh to see it spelled out as foo gee. or Zise Aha! I wasn't sure if it was zice or zeeece, and now I know. I asked one other person awhile back, and he said he's heard it both ways. With a last name like fenstermacher, you'd think I'd have this German thing down...
RE: Mmmmmm
ditto Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 11 October 2002 1:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mm William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Escrow would be the only way to go with this auction. If you bid, you are accepting his terms. His terms pretty much leave the buyer with his ass hanging out. Personally, I'm not impressed with his screw you attitude. He could mail you a brick and not take any responsibility for it. It's a bad way to ask a person to trust you for a few thousand dollars. I agree completely. In practice, I think escrow would keep you safe from brick shipments but I personally wouldn't buy from this guy just on principle. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
What was the size of the images that you were comparing? Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future? Consider the following: 1 - It is believed that current top of the line 6 Megapixel SLR's (Canon D60 and Fuji S2 Pro) can match more or less the quality of 24x36mm film SLR's. I saw the pictures made with my friend's S2 Pro (and Sigma 15-30 zoom) and I have to admit it's true. nothing worse than you could obtain with your favorite film SLR and a first class lens. Maybe the Nikon D100 is a bit worse that Canon and Fuji, but not so far away. Such cameras are more or less half-format compared to 24x36 film cameras. What do you think? Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Bellows, lens and LX (was: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll)
I use the 100/4 bellows lens on an Auto Bellows A with my LX (FB1/FD1 finder). It's an amazing combination and I would recommend it to anyone interested in quality macro photography. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tom Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll 3. K100/4 bellows (for work in the garden when I finally break down and get the bellows for the LX and true macrophotography). Tom
6mp Digital
Went into Cord lunch today. Saw a 20x30 color print (real, not inkjet) made from a 6mp CCD digital. In a word: Nice. Very, very few edge artifacts from being digital. The color depth just isn't quite as good as film, but if done 11x14, there would be NO reason to consider film. And I prefer film because of the latitude advantages. Yet, in a controlled lighting situation, the good stuff is very, very nice. It was printed by a piece of Italian hardware in the lab. Never got the name. Anyway, that's what Cord is doing. Pro digital printing. Collin
OT: BTW
Cord also has a Majestic tripod with some extension arms, geared head, and Slik macro head. $150, IIRC. Anyone interested in a nice heavy tripod? Collin
Re: Bellows, lens and LX
- Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland Subject: Bellows, lens and LX (was: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll) I use the 100/4 bellows lens on an Auto Bellows A with my LX (FB1/FD1 finder). It's an amazing combination and I would recommend it to anyone interested in quality macro photography. I have the screw-Tak version which I use on either the Bellows A or else on the helicoid extension tube. It's cool on the tube because you can get infinity focus with it then. It has charming bokeh. William Robb
Re: Some pictures
Dario, What a wonderful collection, super stuff. James
Re: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
Many companies have done just that; even Pentax. I have one for the PZ1 series cameras, which sure helped to decipher their frickin' manual, but that's another story. The video showed me that the PZ1 series of cameras are surprisingly easy to use, unlike Pal's claim that 'they are the most complex camera... The PZ1 is fabulous to use once you know how to use it efficiently; unfortunately, even after dozens of readings of the manual, it still seemed really complicated. I guess a picture is worth a thousand words. Cameron on 10/10/02 2:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:55:43 -0400 To: PDML \(Pentax\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question Hey ladies, gentleman and old-farts :), Another email to get away from digital :) I had a wierd thought. (I know, setting myself up for a stupid joke :)) I was thinking about why the major camera manufacturers don't release a VHS tape series (or DVD) on how to use *their* camera. It may not be the same as yours, but it's pretty general all around. A good 4-8 course on basic usage, with different available accessories, can not only teach you some photography and (ie Pentax's system) specifically deal with said system. Moreover, what a great way to advertise the number of accessories available. Maybe cost a $100. Maybe I'm very wrong here, but wouldn't that be something that people buying entry-level SLRs want? Ok, so leads me to just one question. They would (in above) use either the best new camera (MZ-S?) or the best selling SLR they currently make. So, the question is does anyone *know* what is the best seller OR (Yes Bruce we are going to guess) care to offer their choice/opinion of a best seller? Brad Dob
Re[2]: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
Perhaps only in the window-making business? Collin O'Brendemuehl :) With a last name like fenstermacher, you'd think I'd have this German thing down...
Re: Bellows, lens and LX (was: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll)
Hi Christian, I have an LX with the FB1/FD1 combination, and have been thinking of getting the FE-1 along with the bellows, but do you think I really need it? thanks, Tom From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:01:31 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bellows, lens and LX (was: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:59:15 -0400 I use the 100/4 bellows lens on an Auto Bellows A with my LX (FB1/FD1 finder). It's an amazing combination and I would recommend it to anyone interested in quality macro photography. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tom Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll 3. K100/4 bellows (for work in the garden when I finally break down and get the bellows for the LX and true macrophotography). Tom
Re: 6mp Digital
This is something that I seem to miss: I know that a print needs 350dpi ( 7lpmm, and a single line has to contain at least two pixels across: black and white) to be critically sharp. OTOH 6 mp spread over 11x14 surface would yield circa 200 dpi - 4lpmm. Which is slightly more than the half of the needed information. I can definitely see more than 4lpmm. Therefore there seem two be these possible explanations: -- those who claim that there would be NO reason to consider film have poor sight -- ... or they look at the print from too far away -- or they take interpolation for true resolution. In fact, I bet one can make a truly terrific 20x30 print of Black Square with 1 mp camera :) Mishka - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: 6mp Digital Went into Cord @ lunch today. Saw a 20x30 color print (real, not inkjet) made from a 6mp CCD digital. In a word: Nice. Very, very few edge artifacts from being digital. The color depth just isn't quite as good as film, but if done @ 11x14, there would be NO reason to consider film. And I prefer film because of the latitude advantages. Yet, in a controlled lighting situation, the good stuff is very, very nice. It was printed by a piece of Italian hardware in the lab. Never got the name. Anyway, that's what Cord is doing. Pro digital printing. Collin
Re: Bellows, lens and LX (was: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll)
FE-1 is fantastic, even without bellows. It's my second most-used finder (guess which one is the first? :) The image is HUGE. The focusing is precise. If you can get it --go for it. Oh yes, it also doubles as a great 35mm loupe. Mishka - Original Message - From: Tom Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Bellows, lens and LX (was: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll) Hi Christian, I have an LX with the FB1/FD1 combination, and have been thinking of getting the FE-1 along with the bellows, but do you think I really need it? thanks, Tom From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:01:31 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bellows, lens and LX (was: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:59:15 -0400 I use the 100/4 bellows lens on an Auto Bellows A with my LX (FB1/FD1 finder). It's an amazing combination and I would recommend it to anyone interested in quality macro photography. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tom Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll 3. K100/4 bellows (for work in the garden when I finally break down and get the bellows for the LX and true macrophotography). Tom
Re: Mmmmmm
Please don't refer to auctions here until they are completed. Some of us are watching them. Some of us are serious bidders. Paul Stenquist Shaun Canning wrote: Someone want to lend me a couple a grand? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1387520130 Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to: full moon with silhouette
thanks for that Jostein. A very elaborate answer, which I hope I have understood fully. I have a few doubts, which might seem silly... please bear with me. * if I am going to depress the film rewind button and prevent the film from advancing, why would I need to tighten the rewind crank with a rubber band? * about partly covering the lens - would this affect the background image, as this would have to be a long time exposure? (unless I take it in daylight and return to the exact spot later). thanks again. now to wait for another 10 days or so -Sridhar - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arathi-Sridhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:22 AM Subject: Re: how to: full moon with silhouette Hi, Sridhar. 1/125 f/11 @ ISO 200 sounds pretty right for capturing moon detail. I think I'd suggest a double exposure. 1. Use the film rewind krank to tighten up the film. Try to keep it tight with a rubber band or something. 2. Partly cover the lens to exclude the moon, and take the silhouette first. I don't dare to guess exposure times here... Maybe some experimenting first is a good idea. 3. Push in the film rewind button on the bottom side of the camera, and keep it in while... 4. Cock the shutter. The film will not advance. 5. Expose again, this time with the moon. Use the settings you mentioned. Note that you may have to adjust the tripod if the moon has moved far during the first exposure. The only thing you need to know is where in the frame you want the moon to be, because, as you have seen, the moon-exposure will not record any detail in the hilltop anyway. Hope I understood your question right... Best, Jostein - Original Message - From: Arathi-Sridhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:22 PM Subject: how to: full moon with silhouette Hi. I tried and goofed this time too. Well the setting was this: hill quite close by, and wished to take a full moon shot as it rose from behind the hill. Around 7:30 pm, and it was pretty dark (gets dark around 7). hoped to get the silhouette of the hill alongwith. As suggested here, I gave it 1/125 and f8 (and another closer to f11). Konica Centuria 200. The negative shows a small bright spot, which would represent a somewhat overexposed moon, and nothing else. How do I get the silhouette of the hill? Do I need to make double exposure? If so, can I do it with my K1000? this one is bothering me, really. thanks in advance. -Sridhar
New Pentax
The last time I purchased a Pentax new was back in the early 70's when I purchased a chrome model ES II. Today, I received a Pentax Optio 230 from BH. BH had a better price so I decided to go for the 230. Anyone on the list own one? Jim A.
Re: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
It's too bad they don't seem to be around now. I'd like to see the MZ-S with various lenses and accessories put through it's paces. Every bookstore I go into I look for Pentax books. They always have the book with the 'older' bodies, but never anything new, and nothing like the 'Nikon System Handbook'. Unfortunate, maybe I'll switch to Nikon to get that. g Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: Re: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question Many companies have done just that; even Pentax. I have one for the PZ1 series cameras, which sure helped to decipher their frickin' manual, but that's another story. The video showed me that the PZ1 series of cameras are surprisingly easy to use, unlike Pal's claim that 'they are the most complex camera... The PZ1 is fabulous to use once you know how to use it efficiently; unfortunately, even after dozens of readings of the manual, it still seemed really complicated. I guess a picture is worth a thousand words. Cameron on 10/10/02 2:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:55:43 -0400 To: PDML \(Pentax\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question Hey ladies, gentleman and old-farts :), Another email to get away from digital :) I had a wierd thought. (I know, setting myself up for a stupid joke :)) I was thinking about why the major camera manufacturers don't release a VHS tape series (or DVD) on how to use *their* camera. It may not be the same as yours, but it's pretty general all around. A good 4-8 course on basic usage, with different available accessories, can not only teach you some photography and (ie Pentax's system) specifically deal with said system. Moreover, what a great way to advertise the number of accessories available. Maybe cost a $100. Maybe I'm very wrong here, but wouldn't that be something that people buying entry-level SLRs want? Ok, so leads me to just one question. They would (in above) use either the best new camera (MZ-S?) or the best selling SLR they currently make. So, the question is does anyone *know* what is the best seller OR (Yes Bruce we are going to guess) care to offer their choice/opinion of a best seller? Brad Dob
Re: Oh yeah? Well mine's bigger! (was Re: Mmmmmm)
Too bad, it doesn't list the MZ-S in there...and I was going to buy it too :) Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Debra Wilborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Oh yeah? Well mine's bigger! (was Re: Mm) When I worked for the student newspaper, out photographers had this *thing* about showing off their big lenses, always trying to out-do one another. It must be a guy thing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1387632388 Deb in TX --- Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone want to lend me a couple a grand? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1387520130 Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: New Pentax
I own it Jim. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 1:14 AM Subject: New Pentax The last time I purchased a Pentax new was back in the early 70's when I purchased a chrome model ES II. Today, I received a Pentax Optio 230 from BH. BH had a better price so I decided to go for the 230. Anyone on the list own one? Jim A.
RE: New lens got me thinking
P.S. I have just spent a week in Tasmania with my customized backpack and strap set-up, and it worked really well in the field. The pack is about a 45 liter Tatonka pack, which is heaps big enough, and in that I carried a 19-35mm, a 28-80 f2.8, an 80-200 f2.8, an FA 100mm f2.8, and an AF500 flash. One of the lenses was mounted on my z-1 hanging off the shoulder straps of the pack. I probably walked 120 kilometers over the course of the week carrying all this a gore-tex coat some filters, and heaps of film. If all the gear is comfortably seated in the daypack on my back, it really isn't that heavy to carry. The secret is using a pack with a proper harness system. This makes all the difference in weight distribution. Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 11 October 2002 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New lens got me thinking Yep, got to agree with John. I have the Tokina 300mm f2.8 and AF converter combo, and it's a screamer. Works like a charm. Naturally, it is all a little soft wide-open, but stopped down to 5.6 or 8, and its great. Although, even wide open this combo is pretty good. I have a Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 as well, which is also beautiful to use. I am not worried about the weight, as I am no shrinking violet myself and don't feel the weight much. Having said that, I have made up a strap rig that clips onto my camera and the straps of my daypack to take the weight on my shoulders rather than on my neck. It works like a charm. It's amazing what you can do with 4 feet of webbing strap and some tri-glides! Cheers Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Mustarde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 11 October 2002 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New lens got me thinking On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:12:06 EDT, you wrote: Maybe I'm better off without the 80-200/f2.8. Just some food for thought. What do you think? If you're gonna carry the weight, get big glass - 300/2.8. Forget the 80-200/2.8 - you already know you the kit you like, and you already know you want something longer. So for just a little more than a first-rate AF 80-200/2.8 you can get a used Tokina AT-X 300/2.8 and a Pentax 1.7x AF Adaptor which makes a really sharp semi-AF 510/f5 lens. Heck, if you want to ecoomize, just skip the lens and get the Pentax AF adaptor for your 200/2.5. Makes a great combo. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
RE: Oh yeah? Well mine's bigger! (was Re: Mmmmmm)
There really is no substitute for length and width...300mmx112mm is pretty impressive in anyone's language. Whether you choose to use it or flaunt it is another question entirely. Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Debra Wilborn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 11 October 2002 1:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oh yeah? Well mine's bigger! (was Re: Mm) When I worked for the student newspaper, out photographers had this *thing* about showing off their big lenses, always trying to out-do one another. It must be a guy thing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1387632388 Deb in TX --- Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone want to lend me a couple a grand? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1387520130 Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: Website woes
Vic, It didn't even load for me...just sat there a minute or so. I finally cancelled. BTW, I am running a DSL line so it should have loaded reasonably fast. This further confirms my dislike for anything AOL. Bruce Thursday, October 10, 2002, 9:52:25 PM, you wrote: Pac Hey guys I'm trying to get a website up and running on AOL using their Pac software. Sometimes it loads quickly. other times it seems to take forever. Pac Could a few of you try it and tell me if it's quick or if it takes forever. Pac It's very early in the process so there's not much there right now. Pac Vic Pac The address is Pac http://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html
Re: Website woes
At 22:47 10.10.2002 -0700, you wrote: Pac Hey guys I'm trying to get a website up and running on AOL using their Pac software. Sometimes it loads quickly. other times it seems to take forever. Pac Could a few of you try it and tell me if it's quick or if it takes forever. Pac It's very early in the process so there's not much there right now. Pac Vic Pac The address is Pac http://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html Works fine from here... Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: Scanning negs
Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: What scanner are you using, and what computer, OS, and scanning software? Agfa Arcus 1200 (scsi), PC/Windows ME, Agfa Fotolook 3.6 (the latest driver for the scanner). I've also tried Vuescan which does support my scanner. Speaking generally, negative film has an orange cast, which has to be dealt with by the software in the process of inverting the negative to a positive image, so there are clearly some additional issues to deal with. Yes I'm aware of this. What I am curious about is whether its possible to just register the film base colour with the scanner driver (which mine does), then just scan away with no need to ever adjust colour for that type of film. I hate adjusting colour. Its not always possible to do it by the numbers and correcting by eye is imprecise and inconsistent. Fotolook has an annoying bug which bases some inaccessible settings on the results of the previous automatic setting. I had trouble getting good results from Vuescan when setting everything to neutral... I will play around a bit more with that package. Apart from my recent playing, I only have experience with scanning slides and prints which are very easy to deal with once you get the hardware colour profiles set up. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Macro Lens Poll
1: FA100 f/2.8 Macro. This lens is always mounted on one of my cameras. 2: FA*200mm f/4 Macro. A bit long and a bit slow but I might as well see what all the fuss is about ;) 3: A100mm 1/4 Macro. I owned the screwmount version of this for a while. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Scanning negs
Anthony Farr wrote: Have a look at the separate colour channels of the histogram of an average scene (YMMV). If any of the channels looks either very compressed or extended to the point of severe clipping then that channel needs its slope adjusted to better match the others. This may be possible post-scanning in your favourite image editor, but severe cases will need to be adjusted at the time of scanning. Thanks for the suggestion. The histograms turn out fine, although the tonal range is a bit compressed (I need to bring the shadows slider up a bit). The preview of the driver allows me to see if I'll be clipping anything. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: 6x7 light leak (not flare)
Debra Wilborn wrote: Here's a really simple, cheap test to find the leak. And I know this from experience. :) Thanks for the tip. It might be useful if I was getting the leak on every frame :) There's no film in the camera at the moment so I'll have a closer look at it in the next couple of days. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Digital! I got digital!
Hi Cotty, on 10 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list: today I did something crazy. Inspired by the whole DSLR threads and especially Cotty's digital adventure (that I'm following in his digital diary - keep on writing, Cotty!), I have ordered a digital camera. You dear sweet thing, Heiko. Bless you. :-)) But only to keep the facts clear: I'm a 1.92m tall Teutonic fellow. I don't know the British standard specifications for a sweet thing...;-) And you even did one better than me - you got a Pentax digital ;-) Yes. In the size of Yoda. I'm in bed with Darth Bloody Vader. This remembers me of theese small little Ewoks attacking the Empire. And who has won in the end? BTW - if Pentax would release a DSLR in the next e.g. 12 months - would you change back to Pentax? I assume that it would have similar features as the D60 and a higher resolution. Let us also assume, that this wouldn't be a financial disaster...;-) Regards, Heiko
PDML is now ultra fast!
Doug made a fantastic work with the list... mail goes thru the list server now lightning fast... Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
DSLR - I know, I know
Just had lunch with a good friend of mine. He got back last night from a trip to Italy and the Greek Isles. Shortly before the trip, he bought a Nikon D100 (already owned an N80) and the new Sigma 15-30 zoom to go with his 28-105 and 80-400 VR. His experience was very mixed. In general, he really loved using the camera. He is kind of gadgety and this camera certainly accommodates his needs there. He really liked the ability to change ISO speeds frame by frame as his needs changed. Three big downsides: His first comment was that the 1.5 focal length multiplier was really a problem. He ended up using the Sigma 15-30 about 90% of the time. He really wants to go wider, but doesn't have many options. Next problem was that the matrix metering seemed to underexpose (I looked at all his pictures) quite often. Anytime there was any sky in the picture, it seemed to underexpose more than his N80. At least things weren't burned out, but boy, does he have some major photoshop work ahead of him. Almost as bad as scanning and fixing. Third big problem was that the camera is no longer working. The last day of his trip, he took it into a moist environment (didn't even get the camera wet, just quite humid) and now the electronics are haywire. Maybe it got a virus :)(big grin). So now he has to send it in for repair. I bring this up as a real world experience of someone using a DSLR - they are not the silver bullet to solve all our problems. Seems they solve a set of problems and create their own set. Just different - not a full blown replacement, I think. Bruce
