Re: End of K-mount?
I knew there was something else I liked about my PZ-1p. The ability to control the aperture from the body, without an aperture ring. You say that the MZ-S can't do this? Len --- On MZ-S, the program shift is achieved by turning the aperture ring of the lens to aperture priority mode. If a KAJ lens is mounted on MZ-S, you won't have manual control over aperture value. Same as MZ-3/5/5n. That's why I am not happy as a user of MZ-S and MZ-5n. If KAJ lenses become a mainstream in Pentax lineup, my only camera that can still operate aperture priority mode is my very first MZ-50. Regards, Henry Chu 14/2/2003 _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?
Steve wrote: Does the Micro-Trekker have a place to attach a tri-pod? I did not see one displayed on this backpack on lowepro's web site. No idea. However, unless you carry a micro tripod, none of backpacks can hold a decent sized tripod. I have a large Lowe Pro Pro trekker and it cannot hold a tripod like the Manfrotto 055. What is the difference-maybe just that the AW models come with an all-weather cover for nasty weather? Basically, yes. Pål
Re: End of K-mount?
Chris wrote: We obviously have different opinions on this, but I never believe anyone who insists that something is impossible, especially when it's happened to every other major camera companies' lenses. I never said anything was impossible.I even said that they may switch to the Canon mount! The point is that it is completely fruitless to whine about possibilities, that are even at odds with what the company is saying, as there are countless possibilities. There are only weeks to the PMA show. If we are lucky some of the news leak out before that time. I suggest that whining start the moment Pentax do cripple the K-mount and not before it happens. At PMA we will se new SLR(s) in some form or another giving us the clue of pentax direction in the slr market. This is because I expect (but could be wrong) that we will see the first installment(s) of Pentax completely new SLR line at PMA. Pål
Re: Question for the AF guys?
Do you all only use the AF for moving subjects/action and switch it off for static subjects? Yes Pål
Re: Best cheap telephoto?
John Mustarde wrote: There aren't any great lenses beyond 200mm unless one is willing to pay the price. \ The K, M, and A 400/5.6 are all excellent lenses. The big advantage of the A is closer focusing. However, I use the K with an A2X-S converter and get very nice results. Sharpness and contrast are quite good. Paul Stenquist
Re: The Five VS1 70-210 Versions
What's a QDOS? Why, that's an easy one to answer, Keith. (g) Vivitar says QDOS stands for Quantum Duplex Optical System. Right... (g) I haven't gotten around to writing down my own explanation of it yet, but here's a few links for the inquiring mind - g - Experiences with the Vivitar Series 1 Q-dos Lens - http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/stereo/q-dos/q-dos.html Anaglyph (3D) pictures of Emperor Penguins (homebrew QDOS) - http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/Anaglyph.html Polychromatic Anaglyphs - A Technical History (several pages) - http://www.ray3dzone.com/plychm1.html I also took a few more shots with the QDOS lens a few days ago - I'll get them scanned and online as soon as I can. Right now, I just have one actual QDOS photo online (time to find and dust off those ol' 3-D glasses) (or you can simply use a clear piece of red glass or plastic in front of your left eye and a clear piece of blue glass or plastic in front of your right eye) - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/vqdos/vqdos01.jpg Here's a few shots of the lens itself - With the slide switch set for normal lens use - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/vqdos/vqdosnormpos.jpg A view from the rear of lens when set for normal use - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/vqdos/vqdosrearn.jpg With the slide switch set for QDOS use - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/vqdos/vqdosqdospos.jpg A view from the rear of lens when set for QDOS use - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/vqdos/vqdosrearq.jpg And that's probably more info than you really wanted, Keith - g. Fred
Re: do you practice any other arts?
You really have to learn how to see what is in front of you instead of seeing the symbol you have in your head. Looking at an image upside or on an unfamiliar scale helps side step that look, quickly recognize, assign a symbol, and move on to other stuff groove the brain wants to get into. I think this is why a lot of photographers love large-format cameras so much. The fact that the image is upside-down helps, rather than hinders, their compositional visualization. Plus, there really is something wonderful about the image of the world on the ground-glass. I haven't shot with a view camera for years, but I still miss that. --Mike
Re: do you practice any other arts?
Doug wrote: hmmm. Dan has apparently read and digested Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. ...which would also be a nice book recommendation for Amita. --Mike Amita wrote: I'm looking at learn-to-draw books online now but I think I need to go to a bookstore and figure out which book is best.
Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?)
Would be nice to hear some impressions... Seems like this bag could be nice to have when sailing with my equipment (which actually happens every time I am on-board my sailboat... ;-) I'd rather not wish to think what happens if I accidentally drop my current backpack overboard with all the precious Pentax (and LF) stuff. Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: do you practice any other arts?
Everything else comes from studying the good stuff, practice, practice, and more practice and occassionally having someone who knows more than you say, try this instead of that. Come to think of it, just about everything comes from that. ;-) So true, so true! --Mike
Re: OT: Shelby Lee Adams
When I came from Ireland, I had a strong Ulster accent, but got by fine in Quebec City for many years, since Quebecers speak as quickly as people from Northern Ireland (Norn Iron). When I moved to Toronto, however, no-one could understand me, and I had to put on a Canadian accent, which still sounds foreign to me. So you can imagine how I felt during a trip to Ireland, when I dialed a wrong number, and the person on the other end said to his friend, There's some Yank on the line, is it for you? Pat, One time I was driving in the high country in Connemara and I got flagged down by an old man by the side of the road who was looking for his sheep. He asked me for a ride, and when I consented he whistled to the woods and a boy and three dogs piled into my back seat while the old man got into the front seat. We had a nice conversation for many miles, over the barking of the dogs (the boy never uttered a word)--but when I spoke to the old man in my normal voice, he looked at me as if I came from Mars, or was speaking Swahili. It was only when I did my bravest impression of his own thick accent that he could understand me at all. I'm sure to him I still had a Yank accent, but if any of my friends could have heard my clumsy attempt to try to speak Irish, they would have howled with laughter. g --Mike
Re: Question for the AF guys?
On 13 Feb 2003 at 20:16, Bruce Dayton wrote: Another difference is that when using manual focus and the matte area, I can compose and focus in any order - using AF I have to lock focus and recompose. I tend to get better composition when not using AF. Doesn't mean you can't, just that my percentage is better with manual focus. That's my experience too, AF really upsets my work-flow. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
RE: Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?)
Supposed to be cery good at what it says (keeping your kit dry), but with a frustratingly difficult zipper as a result. -Original Message- From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 February 2003 11:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?) Would be nice to hear some impressions... Seems like this bag could be nice to have when sailing with my equipment (which actually happens every time I am on-board my sailboat... ;-) I'd rather not wish to think what happens if I accidentally drop my current backpack overboard with all the precious Pentax (and LF) stuff. Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
RE: Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?)
Yes, I suppose the zipper is the fact why Lowe says: inner zip and top clip for easy access while away from water. I guess this bag with all loaded equipment will float alongside me (if I remember to wear my PFD) even in the worst case scenario of everything else going down to the seabed like a rock... *grin*. Antti-Pekka At 11:33 14.2.2003 +, Rob wrote: Supposed to be cery good at what it says (keeping your kit dry), but with a frustratingly difficult zipper as a result. -My Original Message- Would be nice to hear some impressions... Seems like this bag could be nice to have when sailing with my equipment (which actually happens every time I am on-board my sailboat... ;-) I'd rather not wish to think what happens if I accidentally drop my current backpack overboard with all the precious Pentax (and LF) stuff. --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: Best cheap telephoto?
John I wonder if you ever tried your 1000mm K with the 1.7AF? Sure, the AF doesn't, but how about the results? I could put together a package of 1000mm plus 1.7 for say £600/$1000. 1700mm Fnot very much at all anybody? Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter CAMERA DIRECT 8 DORSET STREET BRIGHTON EAST SUSSEX BN2 1WA UK http://www.camera-direct.com TEL 44 1273 681129 FAX 44 1273 681135
Leaving for a while
Folks, I'm now at a stage where I have to delete 90% of the messages without reading them. Not because I want to, but because I try to avoid sleep deprivation to the same level as poor Brad Dobo... :-) Work has been more demanding lately, and I have a few other projects in my spare time (incl. more picture taking). Will be back in a fortnight, if things go as I hope. Would hate to miss the activity here around PMA :) Keep up the steam, folks. Pentax rulez. BCNU, Jostein === Betjen alle dine ePost kontoer fra ett sted gratis og uforpliktende. Bruk http://mail.TBT.biz Dette er en ekstra service fra http://isp.TBT.no og et supplement til ePost leseren på http://mail.TBT.no ===
RE: Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?)
I am not sure if it will float? I would guess that depends on how much kit you have in it... -Original Message- From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 February 2003 11:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?) Yes, I suppose the zipper is the fact why Lowe says: inner zip and top clip for easy access while away from water. I guess this bag with all loaded equipment will float alongside me (if I remember to wear my PFD) even in the worst case scenario of everything else going down to the seabed like a rock... *grin*. Antti-Pekka At 11:33 14.2.2003 +, Rob wrote: Supposed to be cery good at what it says (keeping your kit dry), but with a frustratingly difficult zipper as a result. -My Original Message- Would be nice to hear some impressions... Seems like this bag could be nice to have when sailing with my equipment (which actually happens every time I am on-board my sailboat... ;-) I'd rather not wish to think what happens if I accidentally drop my current backpack overboard with all the precious Pentax (and LF) stuff. --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
RE: Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?)
At 11:57 14.2.2003 +, Rob wrote: I am not sure if it will float? I would guess that depends on how much kit you have in it... Yes, I too believe it depends on the weight of the kit. Actually I e-mailed them today and asked how much equipment it will float... let's see what they say. According to the info found on their web-site: The DryZone 200 holds a variety of systems and if it falls into the water (with the zipper closed, of course) this unique backpack floats -- even fully loaded. Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?
On 13 Feb 2003 at 20:07, Steve Pearson wrote: Also, how does it hold up to moisture? It looks like it is not one of Lowepro's AW models? Do they use the same material as the AW models? What is the difference-maybe just that the AW models come with an all-weather cover for nasty weather? As others have said the AW version has an additional all weather cover, like an integrated rain coat that can be pulled out and over the pack should you be subjected to a torrential downpour. And just to rehash previous posts of mine I said: For my money the Lowepro gear is worth the cash, the back pack seem to fit pretty well and they're tough, I've ended up on my butt a few times and scraped it pretty badly and it's come through well. Also I always clean my gear after a grubby excursion and the first thing is a good swamping under the hose, if the zips are down up I can give it a drenching before it's wet inside and mine isn't even an AW, so I'd expect that they'd perform as advertised. And an extract from a post October 2001: Some listers may recall that I made requests to the list (some months ago) regarding peoples preferences for back-pack style bags, by far the most popular bags seemed to be the LowePro series (they have a daunting array of models and combinations). So whilst in NYC I checked out BH (It's gotta be the biggest, busiest photo- shop in the world). There they had virtually the full array of LowePro cases as well as many others, there is generally one of each model on the shelf to poke prod and otherwise cast your eyes over. Unfortunately I could find potential uses for nearly all the range but finally decided on the Mini-Trekker. I also bought a bucket load of Tamrac QR straps which are now handing off most of my hard cases and bodies (excepting the LX of course since the strap lug system on it is the best of any 35mm slr IMHO). The Mini-Trekker has a very comfortable harness and an integrated tripod support in the form of an up-side-down external pocket. It is normally held in place by Velcro can be flapped down to hold the tripod feet and in the middle and at the pop of the case there are elastic cables with QR clips which hold the mid section and top of the tripod firmly. The pack (which weighs in empty at about 1.1kg) weighed just over 10kg fully packed but remained quite comfortable to lug about for extended periods. The pack contained a MF system including 3 lenses + hoods, a 35mm system including 2 bodies, a motor drive and 4 lenses + hoods, light meter, two finders, table-top tripod, flash light, cable releases, many spare batteries, Lenspen, Sharpie marker pen, ball-point pen, small note-pad, ID card, up to 50 rolls of 135 and 120 film and occasionally my full sized tripod with ball head. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?
On 14 Feb 2003 at 12:03, Pål Jensen wrote: Steve wrote: Does the Micro-Trekker have a place to attach a tri-pod? I did not see one displayed on this backpack on lowepro's web site. No idea. However, unless you carry a micro tripod, none of backpacks can hold a decent sized tripod. I have a large Lowe Pro Pro trekker and it cannot hold a tripod like the Manfrotto 055. Huh? My Mini-Trekker holds my 441 (same size as 055) + 308RC just fine using the integrated fold down feet pouch and elastic straps. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
RE: Anyone using the Lowe Dryzone 200 ? (Was: Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?)
I just found an article (nicely written) about the bag: http://www.vividlight.com/articles/1714.htm Along other things it says Lowe claims a Dryzone will float with 60 pounds of gear inside. That is a lot of stuff... Antti-Pekka At 14:11 14.2.2003 +0200, I wrote: Yes, I too believe it depends on the weight of the kit. Actually I e-mailed them today and asked how much equipment it will float... let's see what they say. According to the info found on their web-site: The DryZone 200 holds a variety of systems and if it falls into the water (with the zipper closed, of course) this unique backpack floats -- even fully loaded. --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: Cheap SLRs
It is a puzzle isn't it? Switching for that reason alone gains people nothing. Except, maybe, some sense of striking back at Pentax for doing what Nikon has been doing for a while already. Len --- This is TOTALLY bizarre! People will switch to Nikon because Pentax makes a couple of entry level lenses that lack aperture rings just like entry level Nikon lenses. This makes a lot of sense!! Pål _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: do you practice any other arts?
I don't engage in the visual arts, but as a member of the local community band, I guess you could say I engage in the performing arts. Since I'm not a very good photographer or trombonist, I find neither helps me with the other :-O Bill - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: do you practice any other arts? I attended my first drawing class last night. It was just a one-session thing, to get me started with drawing. I'm trying to learn to draw because I want to get into logo design as part of my web business. Drawing is a commpletely alien exercise to me, but I feel I need to learn it to add to my skillset. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else on the list draws or engages in any other visual or other arts. If you do, do you think practicing one helps your skill in the other, or maybe hinders it? I am wondering if learning to draw will affect my photgraphy at all. Amita
Re: Watch those backgrounds
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watch those backgrounds: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030213/161/39o1n.html I can't believe the photographer didn't do that on purpose! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Question for the AF guys?
Having multiple AF sensors, and a quick way of being able to manually select them, lets you go back to compose then focus. Maybe Pentax will will incorporate a version of the now standard selector pad on their new camera. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Feb 2003 at 20:16, Bruce Dayton wrote: Another difference is that when using manual focus and the matte area, I can compose and focus in any order - using AF I have to lock focus and recompose. I tend to get better composition when not using AF. Doesn't mean you can't, just that my percentage is better with manual focus. That's my experience too, AF really upsets my work-flow.
Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax...
Mike, was that 45mm Nikkor P the GN Auto? Len --- From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax... Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:31:34 -0600 If I am not mistaken, Popular photography proclaimed the 45mm and the Pentax 43mm to be two of the three best prime lenses ever or something like that. (So I don't get thrown off this list, I like my FA 50mm f/1.4 better). Actually, the three best ever were supposedly the 45mm Nikkor P, the Pentax 31mm Limited, and the Cosina/Voigtlander 50/3.5. But thanks for your comments about the 45mm. I'm always interested in reading firsthand comments like that. --Mike _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
New Toys
Just arrived: LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one this. Z1 KX chrome x 2 MG chrome 85mm F1.8 K 50mm F4 SMC Tak M42 macro 28mm F3.5 SMC Tak Shade 28-80 FA Tokina 17mm FB1/FC1 combo FD1 AF280T Cable release F Benbo Mk1 early Manfrotto 058 029 head Russian M42 Bellows BPM K bellows with slide copier cute little Orion Trekker bag Cheers Peter
Re: do you practice any other arts?
Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone else on the list draws or engages in any other visual or other arts. If you do, do you think practicing one helps your skill in the other, or maybe hinders it? I am wondering if learning to draw will affect my photgraphy at all. I guess I fit into the other arts category: I'm a musician. I'm sure it affects my photography *somehow*, but I'm not sure how ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Pentax, wake up! (was: K and M lenses are now obsolete)
A very good point! Len --- If the new wide angle lens is designed specially for the new Pentax D-SLR (like Nikon's AFS12-24) for reduced image coverage, I see no point for Pentax engineers to put an aperture ring on it, even if it is k-mount because you won't mount it on any of the existing film cameras. Regards, Henry Chu 14/2/2003 _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Feb 2003 at 20:07, Steve Pearson wrote: Also, how does it hold up to moisture? It looks like it is not one of Lowepro's AW models? Do they use the same material as the AW models? What is the difference-maybe just that the AW models come with an all-weather cover for nasty weather? As others have said the AW version has an additional all weather cover, like an integrated rain coat that can be pulled out and over the pack should you be subjected to a torrential downpour. I have the Photo Trekker AW, which does have the rain cover. I've never had to use the rain cover because the pack material itself is water resistant enough for light rain; I've been fortunate enough to not get caught in any hard rain while hiking with the pack...yet. (It's going to happen some time, though!) This is a pretty large pack. I can carry a decent 645 kit along with a good 35mm outfit and a Manfrotto 3021 strapped on the outside. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Re: Question for the AF guys?
For me, i bought AF so i can shoot horse's,dog's,cat's (sorry Mike) and flying geese with a bit more confidence.I still have 5 mf bodies(Pentax) for macro,'scapes and BW stills. Can' get rid of mr that easy:) :) Dave Begin Original Message From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:17:24 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question for the AF guys? J. C. O'Connell wrote: Seems like with static subjects, using AF would be leaving things to chance. Yup, that's what I feel. With very few exceptions, on a static object I'm going for I always use MF. About the only exception would be doing candid shots of the grandkids or the like which would be more or less snapshots -- Later, Gary End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?
That would be overkill. Canon EOS bodies can use either type of AF lens without having a switch to choose between them. If you were going to use AF at all, why would you NOT want the advantage of the USM? The only real choices we need are: AF or MF. We already have that. Len --- From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:00:49 -0800 Perhaps it could be done with a switch on the lens to determine which AF method was used? Something like AF/USM switch. When the switch was in AF position, the power for the USM would be disconnected and the lens acted like a regular Pentax AF lens. When the switch was set to USM, the conventional AF mechanism would be disengaged and USM would click in. But that creates a dilemma, since future AF bodies should or might support current AF lenses, you might actually have the choice to use either AF methods when USM lenses were mounted on USM bodies. The situation is a bit like digital/analog flash system. Nikon chose to integrate analog support in digital flashes while Pentax chose to integrate analog support in AF digital bodies. However, if Pentax would ever release USM lenses, it would be highly likely to follow what Nikon did - USM lenses must be used on newer bodies which support both AF method. regards, Alan Chan _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Mike's kryptonite?
Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do have a big soft spot in my heart for carnivorous plants, Best comment yet in this thread! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Question for the AF guys?
Bruce wrote: Maybe Pentax will will incorporate a version of the now standard selector pad on their new camera. They will if what I'm told is true... Pål
Re: Watch those backgrounds
I would agree that he took the photo on purpose but I don't think he had anything to do with the background. He shot what was there. He probably would have had a hard time not including the background. The background is the logo of the group he leads. Len --- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Watch those backgrounds Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:36:36 -0500 Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watch those backgrounds: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030213/161/39o1n.html I can't believe the photographer didn't do that on purpose! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: do you practice any other arts?
Hi! No, I don't take drawing classes, nor I took any. Well, what I had in my school back in Moscow does not count. I remember none of what I supposedly was taught. I do engage in Art of Computer Programming. Well, I did, and now I wish I could re-engage at maximum warp. Anyway, there is something in programming that I think helps me in my photography. It is a matter of dealing with the problem in a very specific organized way... I will not go any deeper into that bg. I have a friend who sometimes draws sketches of his compositions before he actually creates them and ultimately shoots them on film. I think that any activity that makes your creative drive burn fuel at its earnest is quite helpful... Oh, by the way, I've decided that I need to have a proper web page - not just tables and images. So I am learning some stuff - now sitting in front of the sucker, struggling with the layout of the page... Just my two one hundreds... --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625
Re: New Toys
Wow, must be a prototype? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one this.
Re: do you practice any other arts?
At 06:20 AM 2/14/03, Mike wrote: Doug wrote: hmmm. Dan has apparently read and digested Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. ...which would also be a nice book recommendation for Amita. --Mike Indeed. Searching through the vast emptiness of my brain, I've also stumbled on The Awakened Eye, sort of a Zen approach to drawing. Doug
RE: DC Outing #5 (change of plans)
-- -Original Message- -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:14 PM -- -- -Original Message- -- From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- As stated previously, I will be there. -- -- Good, #7 will be happy to see you again. -- -- This is shaping up to be a pretty big one, we might have 7 -- or 8 people -- show up. -- -- tv -- Great! You have been hiding #7 on me :-) César
Re: Question for the AF guys?
Hi, Rob Studdert wrote: On 13 Feb 2003 at 20:16, Bruce Dayton wrote: Another difference is that when using manual focus and the matte area, I can compose and focus in any order - using AF I have to lock focus and recompose. I tend to get better composition when not using AF. Doesn't mean you can't, just that my percentage is better with manual focus. That's my experience too, AF really upsets my work-flow. Maybe the thing you guys need is a combination of two more focusing points, eye-controlled AF-sensor selection and full-time manual override? Just a thought... Boz
Re: do you practice any other arts?
tom wrote: Last night she was copying a picture, and I took a look and noticed she was doing it upside down. I mean she had the photo she was copying upside down, and she was drawing it right side up. Said it helped her draw what's there, not what she thinks is there. Sound familiar? Wow! This is so similar to a common copyeditor's trick. You read the page forward for content. Then you scan it backwards to proof. That throws it just enough out of context that you can easily see see what's really there, not what your eye expects to see. Try it on the preceding paragraph... Regards, Stephen
RE: do you practice any other arts?
My wife and I took drawing lessons years ago at the NY Art Students League (a great place). In one class, the instructor remarked to my wife If you could draw, you would be dangerous, pointing out that she had a great sense of composition but lesser technical drawing skills. So, after that, she took up photography! Her drawing compositions were interesting, and that carries into her photography. (My skills lead to boring compositions, but we can still enjoy what we're not good at). Steve I attended my first drawing class last night. It was just a one-session thing, to get me started with drawing. I'm trying to learn to draw because I want to get into logo design as part of my web business. Drawing is a commpletely alien exercise to me, but I feel I need to learn it to add to my skillset. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else on the list draws or engages in any other visual or other arts. If you do, do you think practicing one helps your skill in the other, or maybe hinders it? I am wondering if learning to draw will affect my photgraphy at all. Amita
Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?
Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: On the other hand I think there is no need to implement USM at all. The shaft/pin drive methods works about as fast and good as the USM competition and it allows the lenses to be cheaper without the motor. For wide-angle to short telephoto lens, your point is right. But for long telephoto lens, especially those without internal focusing, USM is much faster. Another major advantage for USM is that it is very silent, which is important for wildlife or concert photography. Regards, Henry Chu 14/2/2003 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: End of K-mount?
Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: I imagine that the FAJ lenses behave like an A, F or FA lenses set on the A aperture. Due to MZ-S's program-shift, you should be able to deliberately set any aperture value you want. Strictly speaking, MZ-S doesn't have program-shift. When the aperture is set on the A position, the only way you can change the aperture value is by shifting to the shutter-priority mode. Regards, Henry Chu 14/2/2003 _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Favorite Backpack style photo bag?
Hi Steve, There is the Lowepro Dryzone 200 model as well. I have 2 pics that I got from Rob Studdert showing how its built as well as how much you can put into it. They under 200kb in total so if you want I can forward it to you. Feroze
Re: do you practice any other arts?
Hi Amita, I've studied fashion design, graphic design and web design. I do all 3 at the same time but Graphics mostly. Photography is mostly a hobby except if I'm taking a pack shot. But I have started to get in wedding photography as well cause the money is there. Learning to hand draw to draw logo's is a bit of an mission. Most logo's especially corporate types would have to be in a pantone colour and you would have to submit chromolins as well as single colour variations. Much easier with CorelDraw, Illustrator and maybe Freehand, but I wouldn't advise the last one. Doing this by hand is almost impossible. Free hand drawings nowadays are mostly required by fashion illustration, advertising or product illustration. Mostly done with a tablet and a pc/Mac. All what I've learnt from studying the other is cross applied to photography. Things like composition and sense of colour balance remain consistent throughout the various fields and I don't think I could seperate the various techiques into definite little boxes. It will affect your photography, but then again what you've learnt from photography will affect your drawing as well. Feroze - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:41 AM Subject: do you practice any other arts? I attended my first drawing class last night. It was just a one-session thing, to get me started with drawing. I'm trying to learn to draw because I want to get into logo design as part of my web business. Drawing is a commpletely alien exercise to me, but I feel I need to learn it to add to my skillset. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else on the list draws or engages in any other visual or other arts. If you do, do you think practicing one helps your skill in the other, or maybe hinders it? I am wondering if learning to draw will affect my photgraphy at all. Amita
RE: do you practice any other arts?
Wow! This is so similar to a common copyeditor's trick. You read the page forward for content. Then you scan it backwards to proof. That throws it just enough out of context that you can easily see see what's really there, not what your eye expects to see. Another good one is to read the piece out loud, either to yourself or to someone else, and have the other person read it back to you. It helps a lot with rhythm, sentence structure and composition. I used to do it with my friends in college.
Re: FS: MX and KX
MX finders are the best. (There that should get some argument), but seriously the MX has about the best SLR viewfinder I've ever seen. At 11:07 AM 2/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: I'm going to waffle too long on this and miss a chance (which is good, as I have no money...) but what's the viewfinder like on an MX? Is it nice and clear and bright and easy to manually focus? I've actually been pondering an ME Super, but if an MX fits the bill, I'd certainly go that route, as well. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
FS: S3 and Meter
Hi all.No takers last week so i'll throw it out one more time. One S3 c/w clip on meter: Camera in good shape,minor scratches and dings 55mm f1.8 in good shape,i see no fungus scratches etc. I bought this in the fall of 2001 and ran +_ 8 rolls in it.Meter seems quite accurate.Has a battery.Found the everready case for it. Once i received my SP 500 back from the shop,it has been sitting. Asking $100.00 Canadian(about $60.00 US.plus shipping at cost. Postal or Bank MO cashable in Canada or personal cheque from North America addys. Please contact off list if interested. Also cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a precaution. Thanks for looking Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Leaving for a while
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 05:26 AM, Jostein wrote: Folks, I'm now at a stage where I have to delete 90% of the messages without reading them. Not because I want to, but because I try to avoid sleep deprivation to the same level as poor Brad Dobo... :-) Work has been more demanding lately, and I have a few other projects in my spare time (incl. more picture taking). Will be back in a fortnight, if things go as I hope. Would hate to miss the activity here around PMA :) Keep up the steam, folks. Pentax rulez. BCNU, Jostein I've been thinking along the same lines, lately. Good luck! Dan Scott
RE: New Toys
LOL!! Must show this link to others, cheers! -Original Message- From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 February 2003 16:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Toys Wow, must be a prototype? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one this. It' probably removeable with proper tool. First try to work it out with the back part of a hammer. If no success the front part should be used. Brian Ayling is my master. He's seen at work at http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html Andre --
Re: New Toys
Hi Bill, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is to remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there... [Snip] Uh, Keith Do ya suppose that the battery cover is engaging on the O-ring (which it probably is), then pushing down enough on that engaged O-ring as you screw in the cover, such that the positive metal contact on the battery case is not even making contact with the inside surface of the cover? Before surrendering to the repairman, I'd be tempted to find a larger button cell that will fit in the compartment properly. Which is sprecisely what I did. I got a proper battery made by Varta, right size and all...and it works just fine. My jury-rigged attempt just needed too much messing around. It helps to do it right! grin keith whaley Just the other day, somebody mentioned a currently manufactured size that fits -- maybe your local office supply store would be a good place to check, since Office Depot seems to carry a good selection around here (Rochester, NY). Or, use the O-ring, but stuff a little wad of foil between the top of the battery and the inside surface of the door? Good luck! Let us know how you make out. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY
RE: Question for the AF guys?
Even if I had the ability (long enough AF lens) I would still use MF for my action shots. While shooting rugby, for example, I follow the action and change the focus according to who may come into my viewfinder... Just cannot do that with AF. Not even with the sensor following your eye. I find that I will adjust focus using my peripheral while composing and having my eye straight ahead. It sounds pretty complicated the way I said it, but it isn't really. Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:23 AM -- -- That is true. But many times I will slowly move the focus back and -- forth within the composition to see the effect, or my composition is -- such (commonly portraiture) that no AF sensor would be right over the -- eye. AF is great, but it isn't necessary for some types of shooting. -- It is almost essential for other types. Knowing your own style, the -- capability of the equipment and lots of practice helps you to get the -- most from the technology. Having the capability to use AF is very -- nice. -- -- -- Bruce -- -- -- -- Friday, February 14, 2003, 4:40:40 AM, you wrote: -- -- BR Having multiple AF sensors, and a quick way of being -- able to manually -- BR select them, lets you go back to compose then focus. -- Maybe Pentax will -- BR will incorporate a version of the now standard selector -- pad on their -- BR new camera. -- -- BR BR -- -- BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- -- On 13 Feb 2003 at 20:16, Bruce Dayton wrote: -- -- -- -- Another difference is that when using manual focus and -- the matte area, -- I can compose and focus in any order - using AF I have to -- lock focus -- and recompose. I tend to get better composition when not -- using AF. -- Doesn't mean you can't, just that my percentage is better -- with manual -- focus. -- -- -- -- That's my experience too, AF really upsets my work-flow. --
Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax...
Len, I'm not Mike (well actually I am Mike but not THAT Mike) The new 45mm Nikkor P is the lens that Popular Photography chose as one of its best prime lenses ever. It has the electronics to provide matrix metering, distance information for flash etc on electronic bodies, but is in all other ways a manual focus lens. Michael Leonard Paris wrote: Mike, was that 45mm Nikkor P the GN Auto? Len ---
Re: FS: MX and KX
On Friday 14 February 2003 11:35, Peter Alling wrote: MX finders are the best. (There that should get some argument), but seriously the MX has about the best SLR viewfinder I've ever seen. Ok; I'll bite... Have you tried an LX? Christian (at least this debate won't be about DSLRs or the demise of the K-mount)
Re: Question for the AF guys?
The way I work now is plenty accurate and adequate. I use AF when needed and MF the rest of the time. Just because AF exists doesn't mean it needs to be used all the time. I can't see how my workflow would improve any more by more AF points. My eye wanders around the frame looking at composition and annoying background elements. I can just see eye control Bruce Friday, February 14, 2003, 5:45:38 AM, you wrote: BD Hi, BD Rob Studdert wrote: On 13 Feb 2003 at 20:16, Bruce Dayton wrote: Another difference is that when using manual focus and the matte area, I can compose and focus in any order - using AF I have to lock focus and recompose. I tend to get better composition when not using AF. Doesn't mean you can't, just that my percentage is better with manual focus. That's my experience too, AF really upsets my work-flow. BD Maybe the thing you guys need is a combination of two more focusing BD points, eye-controlled AF-sensor selection and full-time manual BD override? BD Just a thought... BD Boz
Re: Question for the AF guys?
For weddings, I mostly shoot manual focus. Once in a while, I'll shoot AF (of course then I have to use my 35mm MZ-S), but mostly it is MF on MF (medium Format). Wedding are actually quite static for what I shoot. I am a bit more traditional. Tom may have a different use as he shoots a more photojournalist style. Don't get me wrong, I would never consider buying a 35mm without AF, but there are many, many times when it is not better and sometimes worse than manual focusing - with the caveat that you have good eyesight and good technique and a good viewfinder. AF for me is wonderful when I am shooting moving subjects that have no obvious, predictable pre-focus locations. I've done a lot of youth sports - turned into slideshows for the end of season. AF has been indispensable for that (come to think of it, a DSLR would have been perfect!). The rest of the time, I haven't found it to be an improvement over manual focus. Bruce Friday, February 14, 2003, 7:35:08 AM, you wrote: SD Even if the camera is on autofocus, you can still see what's in focus. SD If it's a problem, I switch to MF. (It's a static subject, so speed is SD not essential). I'm also one of those folks that finds the point, SD focus lock, recompose a comfortable and natural approach. This is SD probably because I was away from photography for a while, and came back SD into it with an AF camera. Don't forget, the focus right is loose on AF SD lenses, so MF is not as comfy as my old SP500. SD I know there's a number of wedding guys on the list. What do y'all do? SD That's an interesting combo of static and moving candid. SD Steven Desjardins SD Department of Chemistry SD Washington and Lee University SD Lexington, VA 24450 SD (540) 458-8873 SD FAX: (540) 458-8878 SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/03 10:56PM But I wonder about your comment. Why would you say AF would be SD leaving things to chance? SD Well its just that with manual focus, I know exactly what SD I want to focus on and dont have to hope the camera/lens SD focusses properly. SD JCO
Re: 43/1.9 lens
Alexander, I think this is about the best summary of the characteristics of the 43mm Limited that I've read. alexanderkrohe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 43mm ltd. lens is not poor wide open compared to other standard lenses. It is not as good wide open as it is stopped down (as any fast standard lens). At f4 and smaller openings the ltd. is absolutely amazing. It's major strengths are detail (make big enlargements!), intense color reproduction and bokeh characteristics. I think the range of opinions about the 43mm reflect that it is quite different in characteristic from the 1.4 /1.2 50mm lenses. Some like its characteristics more than others. E.g. the ltd. seems to be produce slightly cooler colors. Also it does not show such soft out of focus images as do the 1.4/1.2 50mm lenses. In the out of focus images from the 43mm ltd, colors remain intense but detailed structures and color nuances tend to disappear, i.e. larger surfaces look uniform (no idea how to describe this better), edges are smooth and absolutely no swirling. This bokeh characteristics is great for candid shots, street scenes, landscapes and even macro (with extension rings). I think this is what Pal describes with 3D-effect. It seems to be difficult to describe but it is quite exceptional ... Alexander -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: do you practice any other arts?
Learning to hand draw to draw logo's is a bit of an mission. To be honest, I didn't even want to get into it. The main reason I'm trying to learn to draw is that I have an idea for the logo for my own site, which will be distinctly non-corporate, and I can't afford a designer, so I figure I may as well learn to do it myself. I mean, I ought to be able to brand my own site, right? So learning to draw what I have in mind is my main priority right now. And that will be one more skill to have. Of course there's a lot more than that to web design/branding/logo design/etc., but every little bit helps. ;) I have a full set of design software on my pc, so if (god forbid) I ever need to get involved in print work, I'll have the tools to do the color conversions and such. Mostly done with a tablet and a pc/Mac. Yeah, I have my eye on the 6x8 Wacom Intuit or whatever it's called. I'm going to buy it soon. I've heard it makes using Photoshop a whole new experience.
RE: Question for the AF guys?
Because of my eyesight, and the low light level in many churches (or other wedding venues) I depend on AF, fast lenses (at least f/2.8) and the AF assist light provided by my flash. So far, I have been very happy with the results. Remember guys, I'll be 67 next month. It's a method that works for me. Younger people, with better eyesight, may find other methods more satisfactory. Len --- I know there's a number of wedding guys on the list. What do y'all do? That's an interesting combo of static and moving candid. Steven Desjardins _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: Question for the AF guys?
-Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] For weddings, I mostly shoot manual focus. Once in a while, I'll shoot AF (of course then I have to use my 35mm MZ-S), but mostly it is MF on MF (medium Format). Wedding are actually quite static for what I shoot. I am a bit more traditional. Tom may have a different use as he shoots a more photojournalist style. I don't really have a recipe, gut generally: - When it gets dark, AF is close to useless. - I'm more prone to use AF with a wide angle than a telephoto - I often use AF for group shots - It's possible I've never used AF with the FA 85/1.4 - I use AF more often with the MZ-S than with the 645n I use AF maybe 15% of the time. I just don't think it's that fast or accurate, or maybe I just don't trust it. tv
Re: Watch those backgrounds
Yes, assuming there was not a big crowd of photographers pressing together to get the same shot. Remember, the donkey ears may not have been in his mind until after the shot was sent to the editor. Len --- From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Watch those backgrounds Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:05:51 -0500 On Friday 14 February 2003 08:21, Leonard Paris wrote: I would agree that he took the photo on purpose but I don't think he had anything to do with the background. He shot what was there. He probably would have had a hard time not including the background. The background is the logo of the group he leads. Len True, but all the photographer had to do was take one step to the left or right and there would be no donkey ears. Christian _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: New Toys
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one this. Does anyone know anything about this? I've never heard of it before. chris
Re: Question for the AF guys?
Yes, I do that too, in good light with plenty of time to shoot. It's good technique with portraits. Len --- That is true. But many times I will slowly move the focus back and forth within the composition to see the effect, or my composition is such (commonly portraiture) that no AF sensor would be right over the eye. AF is great, but it isn't necessary for some types of shooting. It is almost essential for other types. Knowing your own style, the capability of the equipment and lots of practice helps you to get the most from the technology. Having the capability to use AF is very nice. Bruce _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Chip tech
Anyone seen this? Is it likely this chip would make it into a slr? http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03021303atmel8mpccd.asp Dan Scott
FS: Pentax MX + Motor Drive + Nicad
I have a Pentax MX Chrome body with an MX motor drive and Nicad Pack M for sale. The MX was my backup body when I was shooting professionally -- I ran no more than 200 rolls through it back then. I acquired it from the original owner (another pro) who also used it as a backup. It was serviced by Allied in Minneapolis about 9 months ago. I ran about half a dozen rolls through it after it was serviced to verify that everything was working correctly. The motor drive has been with the body since it was purchased new. This is the 5 fps motor, not the winder. It was NOT serviced with the body, but runs perfectly. The NICAD pack is well used but fully functional. I installed new 300 mAh cells in it last year. I purchased the pack new back in 198?, and have recelled it seven or eight times since. No charger is included. Will sell as a kit or split the motor/nicad from the body. Would like to get about $325 for everything but will entertain offers since I'd rather sell it than leave it sit unused. - jim rupprecht
Re: Mike's kryptonite?
Audrey 2 At 11:07 AM 2/14/03, you wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Christian Skofteland wrote: What was the name of the plant in Little Shop of Horrors? Audrey, after the protagonist's love interest. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax...
OK, thanks. I'm not up on the current Nikkor MF lenses. I know Nikon has reproduced the 45mm with the same (or very close) formula as the GN Auto. Just wonder how the GN Auto fares in comparison with the new 45mm, then. Didn't Nikon make this new lens with the FM3a in mind? Len --- Len, I'm not Mike (well actually I am Mike but not THAT Mike) The new 45mm Nikkor P is the lens that Popular Photography chose as one of its best prime lenses ever. It has the electronics to provide matrix metering, distance information for flash etc on electronic bodies, but is in all other ways a manual focus lens. Michael Leonard Paris wrote: Mike, was that 45mm Nikkor P the GN Auto? Len --- _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: End of K-mount?
I guess I don't understand this. I assume that the FAJ lenses would act like an A or FA lens on A. This means that the body would pick the Av and Tv. Turning the main dial on the MZ-S would cycle though combinations of Av and Tv that still work. (This is just like a program shift) Manual mode is not possible, although you could exert some control with exposure comp. Is this correct? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FS: MX and KX
I was going to mention the old Nikon F as having a very good viewfinder but reconsidered doing so because the Nikon F has interchangeable viewfinders, as does the LX, which should disqualify it from being compared to fixed viewfinder SLRs. Len --- On Friday 14 February 2003 11:35, Peter Alling wrote: MX finders are the best. (There that should get some argument), but seriously the MX has about the best SLR viewfinder I've ever seen. Ok; I'll bite... Have you tried an LX? Christian (at least this debate won't be about DSLRs or the demise of the K-mount) _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: do you practice any other arts?
Calligraphy... I think they support each other somewhat with composition. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [skip] Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else on the list draws or engages in any other visual or other arts. If you do, do you think practicing one helps your skill in the other, or maybe hinders it? I am wondering if learning to draw will affect my photgraphy at all.
Re: FS: MX and KX
On Friday 14 February 2003 13:08, Leonard Paris wrote: I was going to mention the old Nikon F as having a very good viewfinder but reconsidered doing so because the Nikon F has interchangeable viewfinders, as does the LX, which should disqualify it from being compared to fixed viewfinder SLRs. Len Just to be argumentative The standard LX viewfinder FA-1 is one of the best on any SLR. Christian
Re: Question for the AF guys?
For me, it's long, fast lenses (wide open, or 1 stop down) with shallow DOF, that I absolutely depend on AF. You can get burnt with group shots (particularly with rows of people) with AF: you need to focus about 1/3 way back into the group. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really have a recipe, gut generally: - When it gets dark, AF is close to useless. - I'm more prone to use AF with a wide angle than a telephoto - I often use AF for group shots - It's possible I've never used AF with the FA 85/1.4 - I use AF more often with the MZ-S than with the 645n I use AF maybe 15% of the time. I just don't think it's that fast or accurate, or maybe I just don't trust it. tv
Now OT: Nikkor 45mm lenses (was Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real,old-style Pentax . . .)
The 45mm and the FM3A were released at the same time and both are available in either matching silver or black. Here are a couple of links if you are interested. http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_norm.html http://www.digital-images.net/Lenses/body_lenses.html#45P All this talk of the Nikkor 45mm has made me start to lust after the Pentax 43mm Limited :-) . Michael Leonard Paris wrote: OK, thanks. I'm not up on the current Nikkor MF lenses. I know Nikon has reproduced the 45mm with the same (or very close) formula as the GN Auto. Just wonder how the GN Auto fares in comparison with the new 45mm, then. Didn't Nikon make this new lens with the FM3a in mind? Len --- Len, I'm not Mike (well actually I am Mike but not THAT Mike) The new 45mm Nikkor P is the lens that Popular Photography chose as one of its best prime lenses ever. It has the electronics to provide matrix metering, distance information for flash etc on electronic bodies, but is in all other ways a manual focus lens. Michael Leonard Paris wrote: Mike, was that 45mm Nikkor P the GN Auto? Len --- _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: End of K-mount?
Steve, That sounds right to me. When I used PZ-1p's and you had a dial to spin for shutter and one for aperture, it seemed like two are necessary/useful. In reality, shifting one shifts the other. The one difference is in the case of over/underexposure control, you could specify whether the shutter speed or aperture were to shift. Don't see how you could do that with an MZ-S. Bruce Friday, February 14, 2003, 10:06:34 AM, you wrote: SD I guess I don't understand this. I assume that the FAJ lenses would act SD like an A or FA lens on A. This means that the body would pick the Av SD and Tv. Turning the main dial on the MZ-S would cycle though SD combinations of Av and Tv that still work. (This is just like a program SD shift) Manual mode is not possible, although you could exert some SD control with exposure comp. Is this correct? SD Steven Desjardins SD Department of Chemistry SD Washington and Lee University SD Lexington, VA 24450 SD (540) 458-8873 SD FAX: (540) 458-8878 SD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FS: MX and KX
Christian Skofteland wrote: Just to be argumentative The standard LX viewfinder FA-1 is one of the best on any SLR. Indeed, but with which screen? :-) Malcolm
Re: Question for the AF guys?
I guess one way to think of it, is that when you need AF, you REALLY need it. When you don't need AF, it becomes one's own style to use or not. Like Bruce, I have found my greatest need at 200mm+. Bruce Friday, February 14, 2003, 10:25:33 AM, you wrote: BR For me, it's long, fast lenses (wide open, or 1 stop down) with shallow BR DOF, that I absolutely depend on AF. You can get burnt with group shots BR (particularly with rows of people) with AF: you need to focus about 1/3 BR way back into the group. BR BR BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really have a recipe, gut generally: - When it gets dark, AF is close to useless. - I'm more prone to use AF with a wide angle than a telephoto - I often use AF for group shots - It's possible I've never used AF with the FA 85/1.4 - I use AF more often with the MZ-S than with the 645n I use AF maybe 15% of the time. I just don't think it's that fast or accurate, or maybe I just don't trust it. tv
Re: Now OT: Nikkor 45mm lenses (was Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax . . .)
Michael, I you have to lust, that is a good one to lust for :) Bruce Friday, February 14, 2003, 10:26:30 AM, you wrote: MC All this talk of the Nikkor 45mm has made me start to lust after MC the Pentax 43mm Limited :-) . MC Michael
FS: 4 Sigma Lenses + TC's
The following lenses will be placed on eBay within the next week unless, of course, someone here would like to buy them beforehand. Sigma 105 mm f2.8 EX 1:1 Macro lens - includes lens shade, and soft lens case Sigma 24-70 mm f2.8 EX lens - includes lens shade, and soft lens case Sigma 70-200 mm f2.8 EX lens - includes lens shade, and soft lens case Sigma 50-500 mm f4.5-6.3 lens - includes lens shade and soft lens case Sigma 1.4x EX teleconverter Sigma 2.0x EX teleconverter For the 70-200 and 24-70, I'll include the CPL and UV filters for my lovely (and not-so-lovely) PDML members. All of the equipment (except the 50-500) was purchased [not by me] over the summer months of 2002, and the 50-500 was purchased in January, 2003. Everything listed is in Like New condition. You wont even know that it was preowned... (well besides the fact that you bought it used). If you purchase and are unsatisfied with the condition of any of this equipment (you wont be, so this sentence is a waste of my time, but...) then I will keep your money and kindly ask Doug Brewer to unsubscribe you from PDML before you post negative feedback to the list. Just kidding... making sure you were paying attention. Of course, I'd refund your money and take my doggone lens back. As always, contact me off-list if you have questions about / interest in these items. Thanks, and enjoy your weekend. jerome
Re: 4 Sigma Lenses + TC's
Is the 105 mm f2.8 EX an autofocus or a manual lens - and the others? Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: FS: 4 Sigma Lenses + TC's The following lenses will be placed on eBay within the next week unless, of course, someone here would like to buy them beforehand. Sigma 105 mm f2.8 EX 1:1 Macro lens - includes lens shade, and soft lens case Sigma 24-70 mm f2.8 EX lens - includes lens shade, and soft lens case Sigma 70-200 mm f2.8 EX lens - includes lens shade, and soft lens case Sigma 50-500 mm f4.5-6.3 lens - includes lens shade and soft lens case Sigma 1.4x EX teleconverter Sigma 2.0x EX teleconverter For the 70-200 and 24-70, I'll include the CPL and UV filters for my lovely (and not-so-lovely) PDML members. All of the equipment (except the 50-500) was purchased [not by me] over the summer months of 2002, and the 50-500 was purchased in January, 2003. Everything listed is in Like New condition. You wont even know that it was preowned... (well besides the fact that you bought it used). If you purchase and are unsatisfied with the condition of any of this equipment (you wont be, so this sentence is a waste of my time, but...) then I will keep your money and kindly ask Doug Brewer to unsubscribe you from PDML before you post negative feedback to the list. Just kidding... making sure you were paying attention. Of course, I'd refund your money and take my doggone lens back. As always, contact me off-list if you have questions about / interest in these items. Thanks, and enjoy your weekend. jerome
Re: FS: MX and KX
I own two. I said about the best didn't I, it's so hard to prefer one of your babies over another. At 12:11 PM 2/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 11:35, Peter Alling wrote: MX finders are the best. (There that should get some argument), but seriously the MX has about the best SLR viewfinder I've ever seen. Ok; I'll bite... Have you tried an LX? Christian (at least this debate won't be about DSLRs or the demise of the K-mount) Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
Re: End of K-mount?
I downloaded the MZ-S manual. In program mode the camera picks a f stop/shutter speed combination, and that is THE one and only one it will use in program mode for that given EV. With program shift you can select any f stop/shutter speed combination that gives the same EV. This is usually implemented with a dial that allows you to scroll through the combinations without having to touch any other control. The MZ-S would do no better with a FAJ lens than a 20 year old Super Program. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I don't understand this. I assume that the FAJ lenses would act like an A or FA lens on A. This means that the body would pick the Av and Tv. Turning the main dial on the MZ-S would cycle though combinations of Av and Tv that still work. (This is just like a program shift) Manual mode is not possible, although you could exert some control with exposure comp. Is this correct? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Now OT: Nikkor 45mm lenses (was Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_real, old-style Pentax . . .)
Bruce, First I gotta get the 85 or 77. Then maybe the 43mm? Michael Bruce Dayton wrote: Michael, I you have to lust, that is a good one to lust for :) Bruce Friday, February 14, 2003, 10:26:30 AM, you wrote: MC All this talk of the Nikkor 45mm has made me start to lust after MC the Pentax 43mm Limited :-) . MC Michael
Re: FS: MX and KX
Peter Alling posted: MX finders are the best. (There that should get some argument), but seriously the MX has about the best SLR viewfinder I've ever seen. OK, I'm going to argue. I prefer the LX viewfinder (FA-1) to the MX viewfinder. The MX one was MUCH improved by installing an LX S-something-6-something screen, but not so far as to catch up the LX in my preference.
Re: 4 Sigma Lenses + TC's
Quoting Dr E D F Williams: Is the 105 mm f2.8 EX an autofocus or a manual lens - and the others? They are all autofocus. The Macro lens (105mm) has the usual (?) clutch mechanism on the lens for switching from AF to MF. IMHO, it has a nice feel to it in the MF mode (I guess you'd say that it's well dampened, or something like that...) For more info the lenses (filter size, min focusing distance, etc) you can check out this lens chart on Sigma's website: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/html/lenschart.htm oR! you can just ask me more questions. oh.. by the way, i also have a Tenba camera bag (backpack) on eBay right now if anyone is interested... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2911884826 Thanks again, j.
Re: Now OT: Nikkor 45mm lenses (was Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax . . .)
mm.77 Homer (doug) At 01:55 PM 2/14/03, you wrote: Bruce, First I gotta get the 85 or 77. Then maybe the 43mm? Michael
Test
I'm back :) Dave
Re: do you practice any other arts?
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Bob Walkden wrote: Picasso was an astonishingly good draughtsman. --- Bob Bob, Nothing astonishing about that. What I found (in my days as an art student) curious was the number of fellow students who dismissed the ability to draw or paint in a realistic mode as something uncool, not really connected to Art except in a historic sense. They were busy making bad copies of contemporary art without understanding that most of the people they were aping had developed and honed control of their tools via very traditional, representationalist means. Once you master your tools and techniques, you have the power to place every element where you want it and the freedom to explore, bend or break rules as you please. Not mastering the Craft aspect of an art one wishes to practice is astonishing. Soapbox mode off. Dan Scott
Re: do you practice any other arts?
Hi, Friday, February 14, 2003, 10:53:14 PM, you wrote: True, but at the end of his life he could sell anything as long as it had his signature on it. so what? He deserved it, and if people wanted to give him the money, why should he not take it? This does not detract from his skill as a draughtsman or his contribution to our culture. Bob At 09:05 PM 2/14/2003 +, you wrote: Hi, Friday, February 14, 2003, 4:21:30 PM, you wrote: So you were right? :) At 11:35 PM 2/13/2003 -0800, you wrote: I took a community college class on So you think you can't draw? My drawings look like a cross between Picasso and some kindergarten art. Picasso was an astonishingly good draughtsman.
Re: do you practice any other arts?
- Original Message - From: Dan Scott Subject: Re: do you practice any other arts? Once you master your tools and techniques, you have the power to place every element where you want it and the freedom to explore, bend or break rules as you please. Not mastering the Craft aspect of an art one wishes to practice is astonishing. That sounds a lot like what I was saying during the 50mm lens debate a while back.. William Robb
Re: Test
Run hide he's back :D --- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm back :) Dave __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
RE: Test
Bahahahahaha :) Finally got the ME-F the 50mm 1.4 is so nice on it :) Dave -Original Message- From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Test Run hide he's back :D --- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm back :) Dave __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Snow Geese in Washington state
Here are a few shots I took on a recent trip to the Skagit Valley in Washington state of flocks of overwintering snow geese. I didn't get exactly the shot I wanted, but it was a lot of fun anyway. I used my MZ-S with the 400 mm 5.6 Pentax AF. Here's the link: http://www.geocities.com/hn_phototravels/ Harald Rust __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com
RE: Question for the AF guys?
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:59:19 -0500, tom wrote: - When it gets dark, AF is close to useless. The MZ-S is a lot better about that. It can autofocus in light low enough that I can't do a good job focusing manually. - I'm more prone to use AF with a wide angle than a telephoto Opposite for me. The DOF usually takes care of the wide angle shots for me. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: M42 EBC Fujinons
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have mucho experience the M42 Fuji EBC Fujinon lens lineup? I just bought an EBC 50mm F1.4 for kicks but havent got a clue about the rest of their lineup. They seem to be pretty scarce compared to the Takumars... I know simply that Fuji made two superlong Fujinon T lenses in M42 screwmount: a 400/4.5 (5 elements, 4 groups, 1990 g, close focus 8 meters) and a 600/5.6, both using EBC (Electron Beam Coating) multicoating. I've never seen the 600 for sale, and I've seen just one 400. But I don't track the Other section of Ebay. The Auto switch of Pentax lenses won't work on Fujica screwmount bodies, at least not on all Fujicas. I assume that Fujinon lenses will not work in Auto mode on some or all SpotMatics. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax...
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd even buy a plain vanilla MX if they still made one. Anyone want to speculate what it would sell for if Pentax built one now? (Less than an FM3a, I'm sure... Maybe Pentax should outsource its manufacturing to Cosina. Unfortunately, fine as the new Cosina-Voigtlander lenses are, Cosina's bodies (RF and SLR) are, at best, second-rate. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pentax MX + Motor Drive + Nicad
Hi James, I believe I spoke to you about this setup before, and then ran into an insurance bill and couldn't go through wth the deal. If it is still available and you are still willing to deal with me I would be happy to buy it at that price. As before it is the motordrive I really want, so if somebody wants the MX feel free to sell it separately, but otherwise I will happily buy the whole kit. thanks, Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - Original Message - From: Rupprecht, James R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:02 AM Subject: FS: Pentax MX + Motor Drive + Nicad I have a Pentax MX Chrome body with an MX motor drive and Nicad Pack M for sale. The MX was my backup body when I was shooting professionally -- I ran no more than 200 rolls through it back then. I acquired it from the original owner (another pro) who also used it as a backup. It was serviced by Allied in Minneapolis about 9 months ago. I ran about half a dozen rolls through it after it was serviced to verify that everything was working correctly. The motor drive has been with the body since it was purchased new. This is the 5 fps motor, not the winder. It was NOT serviced with the body, but runs perfectly. The NICAD pack is well used but fully functional. I installed new 300 mAh cells in it last year. I purchased the pack new back in 198?, and have recelled it seven or eight times since. No charger is included. Will sell as a kit or split the motor/nicad from the body. Would like to get about $325 for everything but will entertain offers since I'd rather sell it than leave it sit unused. - jim rupprecht
Re: Snow Geese in Washington state
Harald, We see Canadian Geese in similar numbers here in Illinois and Wisconsin. They are marked differently, but quite stunning when seen in migration. Usually happens in later fall... Nice pictures, you should have taken more! Regards, Bob S. In a message dated 2/14/03 7:22:38 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I used my MZ-S with the 400 mm 5.6 Pentax AF. Here's the link: http://www.geocities.com/hn_phototravels/ Harald Rust
Re: Pentax MX + Motor Drive + Nicad
So how much for just the MX if you split the kit? Bruce Friday, February 14, 2003, 5:31:00 PM, you wrote: PE Hi James, PE I believe I spoke to you about this setup before, and then ran into PE an insurance bill and couldn't go through wth the deal. If it is still PE available and you are still willing to deal with me I would be happy to buy PE it at that price. As before it is the motordrive I really want, so if PE somebody wants the MX feel free to sell it separately, but otherwise I will PE happily buy the whole kit. PE thanks, PE Paul Ewins PE Melbourne, Australia PE - Original Message - PE From: Rupprecht, James R [EMAIL PROTECTED] PE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PE Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:02 AM PE Subject: FS: Pentax MX + Motor Drive + Nicad I have a Pentax MX Chrome body with an MX motor drive and Nicad Pack M for sale. The MX was my backup body when I was shooting professionally -- I ran no more than 200 rolls through it back then. I acquired it from the original owner (another pro) who also used it as a backup. It was serviced by PE Allied in Minneapolis about 9 months ago. I ran about half a dozen rolls through PE it after it was serviced to verify that everything was working correctly. The motor drive has been with the body since it was purchased new. This is the 5 fps motor, not the winder. It was NOT serviced with the body, but PE runs perfectly. The NICAD pack is well used but fully functional. I installed new 300 mAh cells in it last year. I purchased the pack new back in 198?, and have recelled it seven or eight times since. No charger is included. Will sell as a kit or split the motor/nicad from the body. Would like to PE get about $325 for everything but will entertain offers since I'd rather sell PE it than leave it sit unused. - jim rupprecht
RE: Test
Yah! he's pentax again lol. --- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bahahahahaha :) Finally got the ME-F the 50mm 1.4 is so nice on it :) Dave -Original Message- From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Test Run hide he's back :D --- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm back :) Dave __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
