Re: CLA in Vancouver?

[Alan Chan]

Unfortunately, they were closed in June. Gone for good.  :-(

regards,
Alan Chan
There's a Pentax Canada service centre near the Burrard St. Bridge.  I
think that it's on 2nd or 3rd avenue, just east of Burrard.  I'm not
sure if they'll work on old cameras though.  I had a good experience
when I brought my F 80-200 4.7-5.6 in for a loose lens element.
-Scott
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Re: CLA in Vancouver?

[Scott Nelson]

There's a Pentax Canada service centre near the Burrard St. Bridge.  I
think that it's on 2nd or 3rd avenue, just east of Burrard.  I'm not
sure if they'll work on old cameras though.  I had a good experience
when I brought my F 80-200 4.7-5.6 in for a loose lens element.

-Scott


On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 21:25, Alan Chan wrote:
> My MX cannot focus at infinity with the FA*24/2 so it is time for CLA. Any 
> good service centre in Vancouver area or BC? Thx!
> 
> regards,
> Alan Chan
> 
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Re: My Son...

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

WR> With all due respect, is it really appropriate to call someone who disagrees
WR> with your opinion either an asshole of a fucker?
WR> History, or perhaps a world court, will, at some point, determine whether
WR> the war on Iraq was needed, ethical, necessary or legal.
WR> I don't think we will determine it here though.

WR> William Robb

You're perfectly right. It is also as much inappropriate to insult a
father whose son just lost two feet in line of duty. I really see no
reason whatsoever why all this (your favorite curse word here)
discussion should take place.

I suppose that the only responses that Bob should have received should
have been those of sympathy and support. To me he is first of all a
fellow human and a fellow PDMLer, not the member of some (your yet
another favorite curse word here) political group.

Apparently this discussion does take place and I am writing this
message. It really saddens me.

---
Boris Liberman
www.geocities.com/dunno57

Re: Following street photography threads

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

You make a perfect sense to me, Frank. Well, not you, but you said,
that is . Indeed, I was looking out of the window with the
camera in hand and then I saw these two women walking. And then I saw
the umbrella. Then I saw to which direction they were walking and
almost immediately afterwards I managed to shoot them from above
. What was amazingly favorable condition at that very time, is
the lack of other people since this is rather busy plaza. Even with
220 mm, it is wide enough for somebody else to spoil the shot.

Indeed all I wanted were some lines of the plaza, two people walking
and the Umbrella!

Otherwise, I did not know of any Hungarian photographer to work of
which this looks similar .

Thanks!

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ft> I guess I'm saying all of this to tell you that I wouldn't worry about the
ft> "no faces are shown" thing.  For this shot, the human forms in the photo
ft> work perfectly, imho.  You're not trying to say anything about the people
ft> or their personalities per se, but rather, you're portraying them and
ft> their relationship with the architecture of the plaza.  Am I making
ft> sense?  

ft> Anyway, lovely shot, Boris.

ft> ciao,
ft> frank

Milwaukee PDML

[tom]

Any folks in Milwaukee? I'll have a couple of hours to hang out
tomorrow night if interested.

Not sure if I'll be able to check email so call me on my cell at
301-758-3085.

tv

CLA in Vancouver?

[Alan Chan]

My MX cannot focus at infinity with the FA*24/2 so it is time for CLA. Any 
good service centre in Vancouver area or BC? Thx!

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Re: My Son...

[Gary L. Murphy]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You have been very well behaved and tolerant considering your son's hardships.

Yeah! What he said

--
Later,
Gary

Re: Re[2]: My Son...

[Rfsindg]

Bob,

The point of view Miska continues to demonstrate is deplorable.
If he can't adapt his beliefs and attitudes to this country,
perhaps he should return to a government and political system 
he is more comfortable with.  We won't miss him here...

You have been very well behaved and tolerant considering your son's hardships.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>  This is not about the war. It's about my son. It all started as about my
>  son. That's all it's about. I don't have a lot of folks to talk to about
>  this and many folks on the PDML have been my friends for about five years.
>  My son is going through a personal hell right now and because I'm his dad, 
I
>  am too.

Re: Following street photography threads

[Dan Matyola]

Yes, that's the photographer to whom I referred.  I remember a great B&W 
shot from a radio tower looking down on a plaza with umbrellas and 
striking shadows.

Albano Garcia wrote:

Lazlo Moholy Nagy, maybe?
Regards
Albano

--- Dan Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nice shot, Boris.  I reminds me of the work of a
famous Hungarian (I 
think) photographer, but I'm having a "senior
moment" right now and 
can't remember thename.

Re: Re[2]: My Son...

[Bob Blakely]

This is not about the war. It's about my son. It all started as about my
son. That's all it's about. I don't have a lot of folks to talk to about
this and many folks on the PDML have been my friends for about five years.
My son is going through a personal hell right now and because I'm his dad, I
am too.

I have posted no pro war shit except as response to crap such as you sent
me, a trace of the threads will verify this.

I took your post exactly as you obviously meant it, harsh and mean spirited
toward my son, and responded appropriately.

As you note, I don't take your crap anonymously.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Ignatiev
  To: Bob Blakely
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:36 PM
  Subject: Re[2]: My Son...


  I implied that PDML is not a place for political
  bullshit, and you have repeatedly been trying
  to start offtopic pro-US Army threads there. I find
  this offensive to say the least. I am sure some other
  readers feel that way too.

  As far as the articles go, don't write "fuck you"
  notes to me, send them directly to the editors of
  the Time Magazine.

  I sincerely hope that youe son recovers soon. And that
  he has also learned to stay away from the political
  games governments play, albeit having paid too high
  price for that bit of knowledge.

  Mishka

  > No, my son is not a thief or a vandal as you ARE
  > suggesting. He is mentioned in the article both at
  > the beginning and at the end.
  >
  > The Army deals severely with looters and vandals.
  >
  > Needless to say, I am not happy to have you implying
  > that my son is a thief and a vandal and/or that he
  > is an associate of thieves and vandals.
  >
  > If, however, you insist that he is, well then rest
  > assured that he paid for it with the loss of both
  > his feet.
  >
  > Damn. Another PDML fucker.
  >
  > Bob...

RE: Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[Amita Guha]

If I might interject on this thread, in case anyone is curious about the
area, here are some photos of Loch Ness and Urquhart Castle from my
humble days as a student and P&S photographer...
http://www.beyondthepath.com/photos/scotland_93/inverness.html


> > Cotty, did you by any chance visit Urquhart Castle? Because I 
> > understand there's a new visitor's center there.
> 
> We were there today, Vera and I. The boys wanted to scale the walls 
> too, while Elin went with Steve and Alma back to the house.

Re: Letter From Scotland - Day 6

[John Coyle]

Cotty, is that the same Bob Harris who used to host 'The Old Grey Whistle
Test' on BBC TV?  Fond memories of staying up late to watch that when I
lived in England!  He used to be in the vanguard of rock music DJ's (or more
correctly, VJ's): the only problem was he had a slight whistle himself when
he used words with sibilants!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:37 AM
Subject: Letter From Scotland - Day 6



> After returning back to the shack, er chalet, I started on a bottle of
> dry French white and soon had the 2 visiting clans tucking into bangers
> and mash while the Bob Harris (country+western) show blared out some
> great tracks. [If you're into country and would like to hear the English
> slant on it - and a bloody good DJ to boot - check out Bob Harris on
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/country/bob_harris/index.shtml - click on
> 'listen again' to the right - his show is on every Thursday evening at
> 1900 BST / 1800 GMT.]
>

Re: AF280T Flash clip ons

[Rfsindg]

Also B&H and ebay have them.
Tele is 135, wide is 24.
Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>  I believe Adorama ( http://www.adoramacamera.com ) sells a Pentax AFT-1 
Tele
>  Adapter ($22.50) for AF-200S/200SA, 280T Flashes (gives greater
>  concentration of the flash beam with telephoto lenses in the 85mm - 200mm
>  range)
>  
>  They also carry the Pentax AFW-1 Wide Angle Adapter ($16.50) for AF200S,
>  200SA, 200T, 280T Flashes (extends flash coverage for use with wide angle
>  lenses down 24mm).

Re: Following street photography threads

[Albano Garcia]

Lazlo Moholy Nagy, maybe?
Regards

Albano


--- Dan Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice shot, Boris.  I reminds me of the work of a
> famous Hungarian (I 
> think) photographer, but I'm having a "senior
> moment" right now and 
> can't remember thename.
> 
> 


=
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RE: Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[Amita Guha]

> The visitor's center is basically a café and souvenir shop. There is 
> also a theater showing a 8 minute film on the history of the castle.

Ah, thanks for satisfying my curiosity. :) There is some nutcase online
who thinks that the visitor's center is an eyesore, and that Historic
Scotland wants to build a hamburger restaurant at the site of the
Glencoe massacre...

MX mirror bumper foam

[T Rittenhouse]

Awhile back there was some argument about the thickness of this item. I said
2mm, another list member said 3mm.

I now have in front of me, one each, genuine, new, Pentax Mirror Shock
Absorber, for the MX. The foam is somewhat denser than the stuff I get from
Micro Tools, but much softer than mouse pad foam. It has a notch for the
viewscreen latch cut out of the back. Dimensions (measured): 40mm long, 3mm
deep, and 2mm thick.

The current part number if anyone is interested is 24001.B090.

Since Pentax USA seems to have them in stock, why make your own? This part
is the only piece of foam in the MX that I am aware of that is somewhat
critical in dimensions and density since it can affect the mirror timing.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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Re: Lakes that are deep - Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[Jostein]

Dan, Graywolf,

Douglas Adams, whose works both Cotty and I very much enjoy, wrote of 
a drink called the Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster. Which has the effect 
on people like baving you brains slapped out by a slice of lemon 
wrapped around a large, gold brick.

I'm pretty sure Cotty can provide me with one for proper 
punishment...:-)

If it needs dilution, I'll use Scottish water, I promise.

Cheers,
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Re: My Son...

[Bill Owens]

I wasn't referring as to whether or not he disagrees with my opinion.I could
care less about others either agreeing or disagreeing with me.  I was
referring to the fact that he seemed to basically blaming Aaron himself for
his injuries and more or less saying he thinks he got what he deserved.
I've been on this list for the better part of 5 years now, and usually am
able to keep my cool.  Sorry I wasn't able to this time, Doug.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: My Son...


> With all due respect, is it really appropriate to call someone who
disagrees
> with your opinion either an asshole of a fucker?
> History, or perhaps a world court, will, at some point, determine whether
> the war on Iraq was needed, ethical, necessary or legal.
> I don't think we will determine it here though.
>
> William Robb
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: My Son...
>
>
> > Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the way
> he
> > wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion
> than
> > his.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Damn. Another PDML fucker.
> > >
> > > Bob...
> > >   - Original Message -
> > >   From: Mike Ignatiev
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM
> > >   Subject: Re: My Son...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   were these the links that you really meant?
> > >
> > >   (Time.com)
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101030714-46
> > > 3062,00.html
> > >
> > >   (a copy of the article)
> > >   http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Jostein]

On 31 Jul 2003 at 10:09, Steve Desjardins wrote:
> Congratulations.  We need at least one PUG shot of the wedding from
> Jostein.
> 

Thanks, Steve!
I'll see what I can do. :-)

Cheers,
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Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Jostein]

Thanks, Steve!

There will be more coming.

Cheers,
Jostein
On 31 Jul 2003 at 4:38, Steve Larson wrote:

> Congratulations Cotty! Great news to cap a perfect birthday! I`ll never
> forget your anniversary ;) Nice pic Jostein.
> Steve Larson
> Redondo Beach, California
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:19 PM
> Subject: Congrats to Cotty!!!
> 
> 
> > Gang,
> > Cotty got himself married today.
> > 
> > The first official image can be found at:
> > http://www.oksne.net
> > Click the Scotland link, and you're there.
> > The image is taken with a Optio S.
> > 
> > There will be more official pics later, but they have to be processed 
> > first; taken with a 645NII on portra 400VC.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Jostein
> > (the proud photographer)
> > 
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Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Jostein]

Hi, Gianfranco!

Good to hear you returned home safely.
And thanks again for dropping by in Boat of Garten.
It was a memorable night.

Cheers,
Jostein

On 31 Jul 2003 at 14:49, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:

> Hi Cotty and Alma,
> 
> I came back home yesterday night (plane was a bit late) and
> didn't have the time to write anything, so...
> 
> AUGURI
> 
> (pronounced like ah-oo-goo-ree for you driving on the left side
> of the street... :-))
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Gianfranco  
>   
> 
> =
> 
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Re: My Son...

[William Robb]

With all due respect, is it really appropriate to call someone who disagrees
with your opinion either an asshole of a fucker?
History, or perhaps a world court, will, at some point, determine whether
the war on Iraq was needed, ethical, necessary or legal.
I don't think we will determine it here though.

William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: My Son...


> Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the way
he
> wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion
than
> his.
>
> Bill
>
> > Damn. Another PDML fucker.
> >
> > Bob...
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: Mike Ignatiev
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM
> >   Subject: Re: My Son...
> >
> >
> >
> >   were these the links that you really meant?
> >
> >   (Time.com)
> >
> >
>
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101030714-46
> > 3062,00.html
> >
> >   (a copy of the article)
> >   http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: Letter from Scotland - Day 5

[John Coyle]

(resent after the original disappeared into cyberspace)
Hey, Cotty, congratulations! I hope you and Alma continue to be as happy as
you must have been to take this step.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
(now approaching 9 blissful wedded years)

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: Letter from Scotland - Day 5



> Up early due to the din of a JCB (tractor and backhoe to the yanks)
> building next door at 07:35, but we made it to Inverness for our
> important appointment. My S.O. of nearly 17 years, Alma, and I were
> married at Inverness Registry Office at high noon, followed by a
> reception at a 1st class restaurant (The Riverhouse).

Re: Lakes that are deep - Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[T Rittenhouse]

Well, since I posted the link. I take that as a grave insult. Cotty, if that
guy is still hanging around, reach over and slap him for me, then have a
drink with him for me too 

Actually, I posted the first link that came up in google, figuring anyone
who wanted more accurate information could do their own search. By the way,
if you have a problem with the information in that link, complain to the US
government (it is their website) not me.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Lakes that are deep - Letter from Scotland - Day 3


> On 30 Jul 2003 at 17:58, Dan Matyola wrote:
>
> > I think that all over the world, figure like this get exaggerated by
> > folks promoting the local wonders.
> >
>
> Sorry, I didn't mean to go bragging about the virtues of Norwegian
> freshwater supplies. My point was merely to give some support to my
> statement about them doing insufficient research into the matter
> before publishing the website. Had I been at home, I could have
> looked up the matter in my textbooks on limnology.
>
> However, I don't think my memory is that rusty, since I apparently
> got the figures for both Baikal and Tanganyika almost right. :-)
>
> cheers,
> Jostein
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Letter From Scotland - Day 6

[Cotty]

A hectic day, but an interesting one. A letter delivered a couple of days
previously kindly informed us that the electrical supply would be
interrupted due to 'essential substation maintenance' at around 9 am this
morning. In fact it was 08.58 am, and my toast had literally just popped
up :-)

Alma had the foresight to fill two Thurmos flasks full of boiled water
from the kettle for tea and coffee (already worth her weight in gold
after only 2 days marriage) so my mug of Earl Grey was uninterrupted

We decided to drive up to Loch Ness again, this time over a mountain
route taking in some twisty turny narrow roads full of German and Dutch
tourists, and ending up at Dores, opposite Urquehart Castle on the south
east bank where we stopped for lunch on a pebbly beach. Plenty of photo-
opps here as we scrambled over the rocks and threw down some sandwiches.

Jostein drew his 645nII from its bag and proceeded down to the waterline.
I did battle with my Manfrotto ballhead that suddenly gave up the ghost
24 hours earlier - refusing to lock up properly, and refusing to rotate
on it's base as advertised. We puzzled over it for a while but the
combine brains of a representative force from Norway and Britain were
defeated and we settled for a beer instead. I persevered on with it
however, jiggling it into action and then tightening it with herculean
effort. Sort of like Caveman's humour, it works after a fashion ;-)

The odd stop along the route provided one or two colourful locales and at
the southern-most tip of the loch we happened upon Fort Augustus where
many a tourist pauses to admire the boats gathering in the half a dozen
locks that empty into the loch - if you get my meaning.

Thoughts turning towards dinner, I spied a butchers and popped in for
some local pork and herb sausages and scotch pies witch turned out to be
a big hit with the Norwegians. They just about scoffed the lot!

After returning back to the shack, er chalet, I started on a bottle of
dry French white and soon had the 2 visiting clans tucking into bangers
and mash while the Bob Harris (country+western) show blared out some
great tracks. [If you're into country and would like to hear the English
slant on it - and a bloody good DJ to boot - check out Bob Harris on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/country/bob_harris/index.shtml - click on
'listen again' to the right - his show is on every Thursday evening at
1900 BST / 1800 GMT.]

Difficult to convey the splendour and beauty of the place in these few
paragraphs - it isn't on the grand scale that I would classify such
places as NYC, the Grand Canyon, the Norwegian fjords, and so on. It has
a charm all of its own, and I really connect with it. The scent of the
pine as you walk through the woods is overpowering and delicious. The
light is fabulous and changes so rapidly that quite literally if you
blink, you miss it. The people are very friendly and I adore the Scots
accent - it is simply so familiar. I could easily live here as my *wife*
says, and I could.

Perhaps not just yet, as I still have a lot to do in my career and life
back home in the south of England. I retire (officially) in 2025 - not
that far away really - and I could see myself forever roaming the fells
in search of the perfect light. Well, at least here or France ;-)

Dinner down, PDML digests checked (thanks to all who have offered
congrats on our marriage - I have read most out to the bride - who has
chuckled where appropriate and paid attention when barked at!) and lights
nearly out. The conclusion of another day, with only another remaining.
Tomorrow may see us climb one of the highest peaks around (Cairngorm) at
several thousand feet (only tiddlers compared to *your* neck of the
woods, I know ;-) carrying camera gear, food, water etc - well, at least
to the train. There's a funicular railway that goes to the top and we'll
be on it. God only knows how I'll cope with Grandfather Mountain - I
suppose Bill Owen's beer will carry us to the top of that one - *parp*.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Lakes that are deep - Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[Dan Matyola]

I wasn't implying that you were bragging or wrong about the depths of 
Norwegian lakes.  I was just pointing out that tourist bureaus, chambers 
of commerce and similar organizations somtimes spread claims that have 
not been properly documented, out of a sense on local pride and a lack 
of fact-checking resources.

Jostein wrote:

On 30 Jul 2003 at 17:58, Dan Matyola wrote:

I think that all over the world, figure like this get exaggerated by 
folks promoting the local wonders.

Sorry, I didn't mean to go bragging about the virtues of Norwegian 
freshwater supplies. My point was merely to give some support to my 
statement about them doing insufficient research into the matter 
before publishing the website. Had I been at home, I could have 
looked up the matter in my textbooks on limnology. 

However, I don't think my memory is that rusty, since I apparently 
got the figures for both Baikal and Tanganyika almost right. :-)

Re: Lakes that are deep - Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[frank theriault]

Hi, Jostein,

Well, no matter how rusty your memory, your figures were a damn sight more
accurate than Wheatfield and his Whatever Arrow Lake in B.C. Canada!


cheers,
frank

Jostein wrote:

> However, I don't think my memory is that rusty, since I apparently
>
> got the figures for both Baikal and Tanganyika almost right. :-)
>
> cheers,
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Re: Following street photography threads

[Dan Matyola]

Nice shot, Boris.  I reminds me of the work of a famous Hungarian (I 
think) photographer, but I'm having a "senior moment" right now and 
can't remember thename.

Re: My Son...

[Dan Matyola]

Dag T wrote:

Also, people get hurt when they go to war.  It´s not the movies, 
heros  get hurt too.  They sacrifices something for some cause.  I 
feel sorry  for their families.
Then behave as if you do feelsorry for then.

Re: Odd request

[Dan Matyola]

Yes, it explains quite a bit, actually.

U+B Scheffler wrote:

I hope I could explain my point of view a little bit.

RE: Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[Jostein]

On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:10, Amita Guha wrote:

> Cotty, did you by any chance visit Urquhart Castle? Because I understand
> there's a new visitor's center there.  

We were there today, Vera and I. The boys wanted to scale the walls 
too, while Elin went with Steve and Alma back to the house.

The visitor's center is basically a café and souvenir shop. There is 
also a theater showing a 8 minute film on the history of the castle.

However, the boys ran up and down, played Harry Potter scenes and the 
attack on Helm's Deep from Lord of the Rings and had a great time in 
general. It was great fun watching them. The castle's history is 
quite interesting too, but the kids really stole the show.

cheers,
Jostein 

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Re: Vs: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Jostein]

On 31 Jul 2003 at 9:36, Raimo Korhonen wrote:

> Well - the most common cause of divorces is marriage.
> All the best!
> Raimo
> Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

[whistling:]
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Re: Lakes that are deep - Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[Jostein]

On 30 Jul 2003 at 17:58, Dan Matyola wrote:

> I think that all over the world, figure like this get exaggerated by 
> folks promoting the local wonders.
> 

Sorry, I didn't mean to go bragging about the virtues of Norwegian 
freshwater supplies. My point was merely to give some support to my 
statement about them doing insufficient research into the matter 
before publishing the website. Had I been at home, I could have 
looked up the matter in my textbooks on limnology. 

However, I don't think my memory is that rusty, since I apparently 
got the figures for both Baikal and Tanganyika almost right. :-)

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Re: Following street photography threads

[frank theriault]

I like it a lot.

I don't really think of it as "street photography" (and I say that not as
a criticism, just an observation).  It's more "architectural" insofar as
the subject of the shot is the plaza, and it's geometrical lines.  The two
people, and the umbrella are integral parts of the photo to me sure;  in
fact I think your sense of timing, capturing them where you did vis-a-vis
the geometry of the plaze is amazing.  Also, the tilt of the geometric
lines, the vertical bodies is wonderful - for me it puts some amount of
tension (that's not really what I mean, but I don't know what other word
to use) in the scene.

I guess I'm saying all of this to tell you that I wouldn't worry about the
"no faces are shown" thing.  For this shot, the human forms in the photo
work perfectly, imho.  You're not trying to say anything about the people
or their personalities per se, but rather, you're portraying them and
their relationship with the architecture of the plaza.  Am I making
sense?  

Anyway, lovely shot, Boris.

ciao,
frank

Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I know it is one of the most criticized approaches, but on the other
> hand no faces are shown, so I suppose I will force my conscience to be
> silent.
>
> Anyway, here for your enjoyment one of my better shots from the last
> film I processed. Though heavy this Soligor zoom performs quite
> decently...
>
> http://www.usefilm.com/image/183690.html
>
> Does it work? I wonder whether the umbrella is popping out enough?
>
> Thanks.
>
> ---
> Boris Liberman
> www.geocities.com/dunno57

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Oppenheimer

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Hi Cotty and Alma,

I came back home yesterday night (plane was a bit late) and
didn't have the time to write anything, so...

AUGURI

(pronounced like ah-oo-goo-ree for you driving on the left side
of the street... :-))

Ciao,

Gianfranco  
  

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Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[frank theriault]

Well, Lon,

Yesterday, I was going to offer Cotty my congrats, and his lovely bride my
condolences.  But, I thought it might be bad taste on their Wedding Day.

However, this is the day after (when she's undoubtedly awoken to the harsh
light of reality anyway), and since you've gone and opened this little can
of worms...

Nah, even a cynical guy like me can't do it!  Congrats again to both of you
(once just wasn't enough).  I'm going to have another drink this evening to
your long and prosperous marriage.  Cheers!  

regards,
frank

Lon Williamson wrote:

> The woman is DAFT!  vbg.
> Congratulations!!!1
>
> -Lon
>

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Re: My Son...

[Dag T]

Can´t you all just stop and accept that there are heros and sacrifices  
made on both sides of any war, regardless of the cause and sanity of  
the leaders.

Norway was occupied by Germans for 5 years, but even then many  
recognized that many solders where just ordinary family men, good sons  
and father being a long way from home and missing their loved ones.   
This, however, did not make Hitler any better.

Also, people get hurt when they go to war.  It´s not the movies, heros  
get hurt too.  They sacrifices something for some cause.  I feel sorry  
for their families.

So stop it

DagT

På torsdag, 31. juli 2003, kl. 20:32, skrev Bill Owens:

Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the  
way he
wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion  
than
his.

Bill

Damn. Another PDML fucker.

Bob...
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike Ignatiev
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM
  Subject: Re: My Son...


  were these the links that you really meant?

  (Time.com)


http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/ 
0,10987,1101030714-46
3062,00.html

  (a copy of the article)
  http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php

Website Update

[Mark Cassino]

Hi folks -

I just put up a new update to my website.  There's a handful more warbler 
photos and the conclusion to the essay about shooting them. Plus ~125 more 
photos, mostly from recent months.

Stop on by if you a chance - and as always comments, feedback, and mention 
of glaring HTML errors are appreciated!

The URL is -

http://www.markcassino.com

- MCC
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Re: Odd request

[Dag T]

There are tests confirming such things, but people tend to forget that 
scientific methods also demands that the tests are reproducible.  This 
means that an independent group should get the same results following 
the same procedures.  A theory is accepted when a number of such tests 
confirm the result.  This is where pseudo-science differs from science.

:-)

DagT

På torsdag, 31. juli 2003, kl. 20:49, skrev U+B Scheffler:

I read some time ago that there were made emperical tests with groups 
that
were compared. One group of  patients got the prayers of a group of 
people,
the other not. All that for a certain time. And the result was that the
recovery was better in the first group.
Sure there are statistic problems and so on with those empiric things. 
I
cannot remember where I read this but I am quite sure it appeared in at
least one serious magazine, too.
I noticed that because usually those results are counted to that sort 
of
people who believe in supernatural things and are not scientific in the
denotation that is defined by the science.
That test was scientific in a form that is used everywhere by science 
for
example to explore the effect of pharmaceutical products on human 
beings.

You should know that from time to time I use REIKI, a japanese method 
for
self-recovery. (Difficult to "explain", you could take a look at
http://www.parama.com/html/reiki.html  ). I know of my practise that 
some
things
are possible that are usually not accepted from critical people who 
can't
understand it like they believe to understand other things like atomic 
model
and so on.
Reiki is no praying at all but it shows what spiritual energy can do.
So I was happy to find some more hint beside my own experience that
convinces me a little more that I am not chasing soap bubbles when I do
Reiki. For sure I need this convincing , too, because I studied 
physics and
maths - so I know all that models are only models and there are so many
things you can't yet explain with it. Acupuncture, too, is a thing that
works but the europeen medicine can't explain it and accepts it very 
slowly.

I hope I could explain my point of view a little bit.

Regards
Bernd
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Heide Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Odd request

Not questioning your seriousity here, Bernd, but...when you write
"scientifically proved", then what *exactly* do you mean?
Inquiring scientist wanting to know.

--thomas

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:39:14 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (U+B Scheffler) wrote:
It is scientifically proved that the prayer of lot's of people for
a certain person - even if they know it personally - will
accelarate the recovery. So I call all the list members that are
ready for a good deed to do so. If Bill will accept this. Will you,
Bill?
Best wishes,
Bernd
postscript: It should be necessary to know the date of your birth,
Bill, to target our action.
postscript 2: I mean all this seriously!

Re: Following street photography threads

[Paul Stenquist]

I find it an interesting image. The combination of the geometric pattern,
umbrella, and deep shadows is pleasing to me.
Paiul

Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I know it is one of the most criticized approaches, but on the other
> hand no faces are shown, so I suppose I will force my conscience to be
> silent.
>
> Anyway, here for your enjoyment one of my better shots from the last
> film I processed. Though heavy this Soligor zoom performs quite
> decently...
>
> http://www.usefilm.com/image/183690.html
>
> Does it work? I wonder whether the umbrella is popping out enough?
>
> Thanks.
>
> ---
> Boris Liberman
> www.geocities.com/dunno57

Re: flash for Super Program

[Rfsindg]

Welcome Paul,
Always nice to have someone familiar with SunpaK flash for TTL.
I never figured out if they would work with my Super Program...
Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I just joined the list and would like to introduce myself, and throw my 2
> cents in on this thread. My name is Paul. I am have been taking pictures
>
 as a hobby and semi-professionally for almost 30 years. My first camera
> was a Pentax Spotmatic II. Since then I have expanded out and my
>
 collection includes Nikon and Leica, but I still love my Pentaxes. I have
> 
a Pentax 645, Pentax 6x7, and a bunch of 35mm stuff including a 
> SpotmaticII, a K2, and Super Program.  
>
>  Anyway, to the matter at hand - a TTL capable flash for the Super Program.
>  I have had great success with the Sunpak  Auto 444D with the Pentax TTL
>  module. It  accepts Sunpak’s complete line of interchangeable dedicated
>  shoe modules. The one I use for Pentax TTL is the "PT2D" module.

Wanted - extension tube

[Leon Altoff]

Hello all,

Is there anyone out there with a spare 11 or 12 mm extension tube which
they would be willing to sell?

If so then please contact me off list.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon

Re: Following street photography threads

[Christopher Lillja]

I like it, Boris.

Specifically, I like the repeated circular form of the umbrella and
it's shadow. I think I like the second person in the photo because it
repeats the form (vertical line) of the first person.

>>>Does it work? I wonder whether the umbrella is popping out enough?

Not quite. But, printed in black and white, this might be an excellent
starting point for a hand tint.  Or, if your darkroom is digital, use
layers to render everything but the umbrella in monochrome, then punch
up the saturation.

Have fun, man.

Chris L.

OT: German Members

[tom]

Could someone in Germany who might be willing to do me a favor shoot
me an email?

Thanks,

Tom

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301-758-3085

Following street photography threads

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

I know it is one of the most criticized approaches, but on the other
hand no faces are shown, so I suppose I will force my conscience to be
silent.

Anyway, here for your enjoyment one of my better shots from the last
film I processed. Though heavy this Soligor zoom performs quite
decently...

http://www.usefilm.com/image/183690.html

Does it work? I wonder whether the umbrella is popping out enough?

Thanks.

---
Boris Liberman
www.geocities.com/dunno57

Re: Odd request

[U+B Scheffler]

I read some time ago that there were made emperical tests with groups that
were compared. One group of  patients got the prayers of a group of people,
the other not. All that for a certain time. And the result was that the
recovery was better in the first group.
Sure there are statistic problems and so on with those empiric things. I
cannot remember where I read this but I am quite sure it appeared in at
least one serious magazine, too.
I noticed that because usually those results are counted to that sort of
people who believe in supernatural things and are not scientific in the
denotation that is defined by the science.
That test was scientific in a form that is used everywhere by science for
example to explore the effect of pharmaceutical products on human beings.

You should know that from time to time I use REIKI, a japanese method for
self-recovery. (Difficult to "explain", you could take a look at
http://www.parama.com/html/reiki.html  ). I know of my practise that some
things
are possible that are usually not accepted from critical people who can't
understand it like they believe to understand other things like atomic model
and so on.
Reiki is no praying at all but it shows what spiritual energy can do.
So I was happy to find some more hint beside my own experience that
convinces me a little more that I am not chasing soap bubbles when I do
Reiki. For sure I need this convincing , too, because I studied physics and
maths - so I know all that models are only models and there are so many
things you can't yet explain with it. Acupuncture, too, is a thing that
works but the europeen medicine can't explain it and accepts it very slowly.

I hope I could explain my point of view a little bit.

Regards
Bernd

- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Heide Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Odd request


> Not questioning your seriousity here, Bernd, but...when you write
> "scientifically proved", then what *exactly* do you mean?
>
> Inquiring scientist wanting to know.
>
> --thomas
>
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:39:14 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (U+B Scheffler) wrote:
>
> > It is scientifically proved that the prayer of lot's of people for
> > a certain person - even if they know it personally - will
> > accelarate the recovery. So I call all the list members that are
> > ready for a good deed to do so. If Bill will accept this. Will you,
> > Bill?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Bernd
> >
> > postscript: It should be necessary to know the date of your birth,
> > Bill, to target our action.
> > postscript 2: I mean all this seriously!
> >
> >
>

Re: My Son...

[Bill Owens]

Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the way he
wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion than
his.

Bill

> Damn. Another PDML fucker.
>
> Bob...
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Mike Ignatiev
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM
>   Subject: Re: My Son...
>
>
>
>   were these the links that you really meant?
>
>   (Time.com)
>
>
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101030714-46
> 3062,00.html
>
>   (a copy of the article)
>   http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php
>
>

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Alek Kozak]

Congratulation Cotty!
I shall have second anniversary of my wedding next Tuesday and I must say
that it is very, very nice day.
Maybe I buy my great wife any lens
Cheers
Alek
- Original Message -
From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:19 PM
Subject: Congrats to Cotty!!!


> Gang,
> Cotty got himself married today.
>
> The first official image can be found at:
> http://www.oksne.net
> Click the Scotland link, and you're there.
> The image is taken with a Optio S.
>
> There will be more official pics later, but they have to be processed
> first; taken with a 645NII on portra 400VC.
>
> Cheers,
> Jostein
> (the proud photographer)
>
> --
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Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Steve Desjardins]

Wow.  I guess I wasn't reading the posts carefully enough, as I didn't
see this coming.

Congratulations.  We need at least one PUG shot of the wedding from
Jostein.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Re: Vs: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Caveman]

Rumours has it that Cotty followed the new procedure, where he digitally 
signed the electronic version of the registry. This quite explains why 
the whole party nedeed their laptops.

cheers,
caveman

Normally July is better

[brooksdj]

Humph.Worst July ever.
I have a rather heafty truck repair bill coming up next week,so after a long think i'll
have to sell
some spare equipment that is not getting much use.
SF-1 with SMC A 35-70 macro
Sigma 100-300 DL AF zoom
My new  to me smc m 28mm 
Possibly a K1000 with smc a 35-80 zoom and the smc 80-200 zoom(not sure if i want to 
sell
it will mull)
Email me if interested and i'll supply details,pictures etc.
Sorry,keeping the 6x7 .:-)
Also have a 10'3" Zodiac inflatable boat for $1000.00 Can.$ 
Dave

RE: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Amita Guha]

Many congrats, Cotty! That's wonderful news.

So what did you bribe her with to get her to marry you? ;) 

Amita

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Lon Williamson]

The woman is DAFT!  vbg.
Congratulations!!!1
-Lon

Jostein wrote:
Gang,
Cotty got himself married today.
The first official image can be found at:
http://www.oksne.net
Click the Scotland link, and you're there.
The image is taken with a Optio S.
There will be more official pics later, but they have to be processed 
first; taken with a 645NII on portra 400VC.

Cheers,
Jostein
(the proud photographer)

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

["Mike Ignatiev"]

Ditto! 

Looking forward to a "Married an proud of it!" thread


Best,
Mishka

Re: flash compensation? -- further question

[Lon Williamson]

I think you've run into an inverse-square law problem, something that
applies to all light sources.  Things will work more consistently this
way:  Get your subjects as close to the background as possible and use
a longish lens to minimize the difference in intensity of light falling
on subject and background.
If you try to get a portrait shot of someone in the middle of a large
dark room, you risk blown-out faces and dark backgrounds every time,
no matter what kind of fancy flash settings are used.
Yong Yang wrote:
I had a question about flash compensation. I ever took some pics in a museum using PZ-1p @ HyP mode with flash. When I got the processed pictures back, I found people's faces were over-exposured. I thought this is because the background was so dark and I should use flash compensation to correct the light emitted from the flash so that people's faces won't be over-exposured. So next time, I did that by using -1.0EV for flash compensation. But when I got the pictures, the same problem existed. I talked to a friend. He told me probably I shouldn't use flash compensation. Instead, I should use exposure compensation to correct the dark background. I haven't tried what he said yet. Can anyone let me know how I should do to get good results for this situation so that next time when I go there I know I'll be getting good pics?

--- "Frank Wajer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

I've been reading about flash compensation on this list but it's not clear
to me what it means. I also cannot find anything in the manual of my MZ-5n.
Is it the same as fill-flash with the flash at lower output so it won't completely
fill in the shadows?
The explanation (trick) about using manual mode and the exposure compensation
dial for flash compensation, for what flash/body combinations is that.
I just bought a AF360FGZ from ADORAMA (great shop BTW) and it has flash comp.
on the flash so I guess I don't need to use the trick?
thanx,

Frank


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Re: flash for Super Program

[Lon Williamson]

You need a flash with Pentax analogue TTL to take advantage
of the SuperProgram.  I think the best compromise flash for
it is the AF280T, the most powerful Pentax flash that will mount on
the hot shoe.  Tilt, swivel, thyristor settings (2), full
manual, and 1/32 manual are available in addition to TTL.
The flash has a confirmation lamp, ready lamp, test fire
button, and an angled down macro setting, and can accept
wide-angle (24mm) and telephoto (90mm) clip-ons from Pentax.
Third party cables can be found to get the flash off-camera.
The GN is about 90 (feet) at ASA100, making it a fairly
powerful flash.
Amita Guha wrote:
I just got my new Super Program in the mail. It appears to function
perfectly, and that SMC 50mm/1.7 is a sweet little lens. I've been
studying the manual and it looks like there are some special flash
modes, but I don't think my Vivitar Thyristor flash will work with them.
Do I need some sort of special Pentax flash to take advantage of these
features?
Thanks,
Amita 

Re: flash for Super Program

[brooksdj]

> AF200T or AF280T are what you need. ($20 or 
$50 are good prices)
> Either one works with the Super Program to give TTL flash, ie
> flash is measured IN the camera by a sensor not in the flash.
> It gives great flash photography as you change lenses.

I second(or is it up to third now)the AF280T.I use it with my SP and the wedding i 
shot in
January 
turned out just fine.I think i shot mostly TTL 1/60 or 1/30 at about f4 then f 5.6 when
the room got to 
dark to focus quickly.
Nice combo
Most of the used prices up here that i have seen are in the range of $150-190 Canadian.

Dave

Re: Newbie Questions

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

> There appear to be 2 versions of this lens, and they are different
> optically, the earlier being noticeably better.
>
> http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/pentax_zooms.html#80-200
>
> Is there a way to tell them apart?

Thanks to Boz's site, I found a way: the K and early M 80-200/4.5
focus down to 1.6m, whereas the newest ones do better, as 1.2m.

Kostas

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Mark Cassino]

Congrats, dude!

- MCC

At 11:19 PM 7/30/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Gang,
Cotty got himself married today.
The first official image can be found at:
http://www.oksne.net
Click the Scotland link, and you're there.
The image is taken with a Optio S.
There will be more official pics later, but they have to be processed
first; taken with a 645NII on portra 400VC.
Cheers,
Jostein
(the proud photographer)
--
Photos at: http://www.oksne.net
AutoPug author.
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Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Steve Larson]

Congratulations Cotty! Great news to cap a perfect birthday! I`ll never
forget your anniversary ;) Nice pic Jostein.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:19 PM
Subject: Congrats to Cotty!!!


> Gang,
> Cotty got himself married today.
> 
> The first official image can be found at:
> http://www.oksne.net
> Click the Scotland link, and you're there.
> The image is taken with a Optio S.
> 
> There will be more official pics later, but they have to be processed 
> first; taken with a 645NII on portra 400VC.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jostein
> (the proud photographer)
> 
> -- 
> Photos at: http://www.oksne.net
> 
> AutoPug author.
> Submit your images at: 
> http://www.oksne.net/autoPug/PugForm.asp
> 
> 
> 

Re: Odd request

[Dr E D F Williams]

This stuff prompted me to ask Hugh Burnett to remind me about George King.
Hugh writes:

'An ex-taxi driver was doing the washing up in his flat in London when a
naked Fakir materialised in the room, who told him to go to a hill in Devon.
So he went, noticed two shadows on the hedge as he walked in the moonlight -
and to his surprise met Jesus, who'd come over from one of the planets in a
flying saucer. As a result of this remarkable event the Aetherius Society
was born.

George King - for it was he - in due course invented a Prayer Box, and
whenever appropriate loads of followers would arrive in coaches and
cars to assemble on the now Holy Hill. The box was mounted on a tripod, and
George stood in front of it, awaiting the moment when the chanting group
behind him had charged him sufficiently with prayer-power. Their chant was a
repeated 'Om Mani Patmi Hum!' King would then leap in the air to gain the
force to send the prayer-energy into the box. A lady sat on a stool, wrapped
in woollies and cap - as were they all, because it was freezing - with a
stop
watch, keeping tally of the amount of prayer-powers being collected. Only
George could tell when the Box was full - he could feel the tingle that
signalled success.

We got all this on film, and George, when asked on camera how many
people had told him this was complete, total, and utter nonsense,
replied thoughtfully - 'Not many!'. The prayer-power was not dispatched to
the
Almighty; it was beamed towards places on earth, facing some crisis, such as
forest fires, tornadoes, earthquakes and similar disasters. It always seemed
to me that it should have been transmitted prior to the relevant disaster,
rather than after it had happened.

King finished up with a notional Peace Prize, presented in Malta, by which
time he'd become a Knight, a Sri Yogi, an Honourable and various other
titles. He'd founded an Aetherius Church somewhere near London Bridge, which
had a flying saucer suspended above the altar.'

Hugh says "Now that he's dead, there's no mention of any of this by various
suited gents, who occasionally turn up on telly fringe-religious
programmes."

Don
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- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Heide Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Odd request


> Not questioning your seriousity here, Bernd, but...when you write
> "scientifically proved", then what *exactly* do you mean?
>
> Inquiring scientist wanting to know.
>
> --thomas
>
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:39:14 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (U+B Scheffler) wrote:
>
> > It is scientifically proved that the prayer of lot's of people for
> > a certain person - even if they know it personally - will
> > accelarate the recovery. So I call all the list members that are
> > ready for a good deed to do so. If Bill will accept this. Will you,
> > Bill?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Bernd
> >
> > postscript: It should be necessary to know the date of your birth,
> > Bill, to target our action.
> > postscript 2: I mean all this seriously!
> >
> >
>

Re: flash for Super Program

[Rfsindg]

AF200T or AF280T are what you need. ($20 or $50 are good prices)
Either one works with the Super Program to give TTL flash, ie
flash is measured IN the camera by a sensor not in the flash.
It gives great flash photography as you change lenses.
The AF280T is really nice, tilt, swivel, & bright.
The AF200T has no bounce head and is a bit less powerful.
Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  I just got my new Super Program in the mail. It appears to function
>  perfectly, and that SMC 50mm/1.7 is a sweet little lens. I've been
>  studying the manual and it looks like there are some special flash
>  modes, but I don't think my Vivitar Thyristor flash will work with them.
>  Do I need some sort of special Pentax flash to take advantage of these
>  features?

Re: Letter from Scotland - Day 5

[Kathleen]

Congratulations, Cotty & Alma ! ! !

Re: flash for Super Program

[Alek Kozak]

Also Metz with SCA 372 would be very good choice, IMHO
Alek
- Original Message - 
From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: flash for Super Program


> > I just got my new Super Program in the mail. It appears to
> > function perfectly, and that SMC 50mm/1.7 is a sweet little lens.
> > I've been studying the manual and it looks like there are some
> > special flash modes, but I don't think my Vivitar Thyristor flash
> > will work with them. Do I need some sort of special Pentax flash
> > to take advantage of these features?
> 
> Congratulations on your new toy, Amita.  ;-)
> 
> To enjoy all of the flash features that the Super Program/A can use,
> you need one of the Pentax analog TTL flash units, such as the
> AF200T, AF280T, AF400T, AF080C, or AF140C (or, one of the compatible
> similar third-party flash units).  I'd suggest the AF280T as a good
> all-around TTL flash unit for the purpose...
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
> 

Re: Newbie Questions

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, U+B Scheffler wrote:

> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:01:22 +0200
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Newbie Questions
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> Raimo wrote:
>
> A 4.5/80-200 SMC-M Pentax would fit your needs very well - if you can find
> one. Very
> sharp and contrasty (mine was sharper than 4/200 SMC-M Pentax that I had
> before it).
> Not expensive.
>
>
> REPLY:
>
> You're the second, if not the third, who claims the M 80-200/4.5 is better
> than the M 200/4. The M zoom represent the first generation of Pentax zooms
> that really took off saleswise. Almost certainly because it was quite good.
> The M zooms is not at all a shabby lens optically. Recommended as a budget
> zoom.
>
>
> Pål
>
>
> So I am the fourth. Constant good results troughout the range. And good
> bokeh, for nearby objects, too - see my july pug entry
> http://pug.komkon.org/03jul/green.html
>
> Regards
> Bernd

There appear to be 2 versions of this lens, and they are different
optically, the earlier being noticeably better.

http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/pentax_zooms.html#80-200

Is there a way to tell them apart?

Thanks,
Kostas

Re: News from DPReview

[Alek Kozak]

Thank you!
Alek
- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: News from DPReview


> My largest so far is 24X30 on Portra 800.  Looked very nice.  I find
> that from 4X5 on up, the 67 negs produce noticeably better images.  I
> have tons of 8X10's printed and there is a marked difference between
> that and my 35mm even when shooting with FA* glass.
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 5:27:17 AM, you wrote:
>
>
> WR> - Original Message -
> WR> From: "Alek Kozak"
> WR> Subject: Re: News from DPReview
>
>
> >> Hi,
> >> What enlargements have you done using your 67 Pentax?
>
> WR> I have gone as large as 40x60 inches for a store display. Didn't look
the
> WR> greatest close up, about as good as an 11x14 from a 35mm neg, but from
where
> WR> it was hung, it looked fantastic.
>
> WR> William Robb
>
>
>

Re: Question on SMC-FA 35mm f/2 lens and hood ...

[Alek Kozak]

Hi Joe,
When you test the lens please drop me a line about its performance.
Cheers
Alek
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Wilensky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: Question on SMC-FA 35mm f/2 lens and hood ...


> I just received an SMC-FA 35mm f/2 from B&H, new in the box. It's a 
> beautiful lens, and the manual focus feel and the width of the 
> focusing ring is a bit better than my FA 50/1.4 and 28/2.8, as others 
> have commented. My question is about mounting the tulip hood -- 
> unless I'm missing something completely, it seems the hood mounting 
> bayonet grooves on my lens aren't lined up correctly.
> 
> The white line on my lens that is used for lining up with the white 
> line on the hood for mounting purposes (line them up, then rotate the 
> hood until it clicks into place) is located at between 2 and 3 
> o'clock on the lens barrel with the front of the lens facing me. But 
> this causes the hood to mount quite a bit rotated from its proper 
> orientation, which is supposed to have the "Pentax" at the top and 
> the little door for rotating a polarizer at the bottom. It seems 
> roughly 45 degrees off from where it should be, if not a bit more. 
> This makes the whole point of a dedicated tulip hood useless, since 
> vignetting would likely occur.
> 
> This seems to be the only physical way the hood will mount on this 
> lens, and the bayonet mount for the filter on the end of the lens is 
> not rotateable.
> 
> Is this a manufacturing defect? Could the lens actually have been 
> assembled with this error? Everything else lines up (the lens mount 
> itself, the f/stop and focusing scale, etc.). Or am I missing 
> something?
> 
> Joe
> 
> 

Cotty

[Clive evans]

Should have said this!

-Forwarded Message-

From:   Clive evans, 101335,1564
To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED], INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date:   31/07/2003 11:19 PM

RE: Cotty

Cotty
Many congratulations..
The lovely  Teresa and I were married In Gretna Green  two years ago last
September [rode from Antibes to  back on my Harley with ten days touring
beautiful Scotland..great!]
Then Barcelona for your first anniversary would be an excellent
idea.?
Best
Clive
Antibes
France

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[mike wilson]

Well done!

H; _still_ no mention of it on the BBC news site.  Is that because
you work for Carlton?

mike

RE: Letter from Scotland - Day 5

[Rob Brigham]

Bout bloody time mate!

I found it hard to think of you as anything other than husband & wife
last year because you seemed so together.

Serious congrats are in order and you better start planning the next
p***up, sorry PDML get together so that I can toast the pair of you.
Maybe I will send you a drink in the post in the meantime...

Have a damn fine time up there!

Rob

> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 30 July 2003 22:23
> To: Pentax List
> Subject: Letter from Scotland - Day 5
> 
> 
> Well folks, I haven't read the backlog of PDML digests, but 
> full marks to Wendy Beard for emailing me direct with the 
> *triumph* clue (yes, the Triumph Stag). [addendum: apparently 
> also to Bob W for the bad jokes - Jostein reading his real 
> time posts as i write...]
> 
> Up early due to the din of a JCB (tractor and backhoe to the 
> yanks) building next door at 07:35, but we made it to 
> Inverness for our important appointment. My S.O. of nearly 17 
> years, Alma, and I were married at Inverness Registry Office 
> at high noon, followed by a reception at a 1st class 
> restaurant (The Riverhouse). Jostein and Vera Oksne 
> witnessed, and photographic evidence was obtained by a 645n 
> and 75mm (Jostein), a Powershot G2 (Stefan), and an Optio S 
> (Jostein). Here's a link direct to a pic from the Optio:
> 


Jostein won;t thank me for that because it bypasses his frames and goes
straight to the page (I loathe frames), but to keep him happy, here's
the proper link:



navigate at the left towards 'Scotland'

Most of the day was taken up with the nuptials and only this evening did
we all go out for a walk down to the river near the chalet we are
staying in. While the kids threw stones into the water, Jostein managed
a few frames before he, of course, had to show them how to skip a flat
one across the steam.

I shot loads.

Thanks in advance for all your cangratulations - I'll read each and
every post and reply to all, asap..

Meanwhile, I think we're supposed to consummate the marriage in some way
or other..

;-)


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Lakes that are deep - Letter from Scotland - Day 3

[dagt]

Sure.  Either by exaggerating the actual depth or, when you can't get away with this 
because the numbers are established and known, by "forgetting" facts that most people 
will not miss.

:-)

DagT

> Fra: Dan Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I think that all over the world, figure like this get exaggerated by 
> folks promoting the local wonders.
> 
> Jostein wrote:
> 
> >I think it must be down to incomplete research. 
> >The largest lake in Norway, Mjøsa, would come in 9th on that list 
> >with it's 430 meters. There are at least 10 lakes in Norway deeper 
> >than that. Also, there are some lakes in central Europe that should 
> >be on the list I think, like lake Geneva and some of the North 
> >Italian lakes.
> >
> >Also, IIRC, the figure on lake Nyasa, or Lake Malawi as it's official 
> >name is now, is about 200m too high. OTOH, there's at least one other 
> >volcanic lake in the Congo basin that should be on the list. It's 
> >name escapes me, but FYI I'm thinking of a lake that caused havoc a 
> >decade ago when it burped a huge cloud of carbon dioxide that drifted 
> >down a valley and killed several thousand people.
> >
> >Oh, well. Time to put the Limnologist in me back to sleep.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

Cotty

[Clive evans]

Cotty
Many congratulations..
The lovely  Teresa two years ago last September [rode from Antibes to  back
on my Harley with ten days touring beautiful
Scotland..great!]
Then Barcelona for your first anniversary would be an excellent
idea.?
Best
Clive
Antibes
France

Re: Odd request

[Thomas Heide Clausen]

Not questioning your seriousity here, Bernd, but...when you write
"scientifically proved", then what *exactly* do you mean?

Inquiring scientist wanting to know.

--thomas

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:39:14 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (U+B Scheffler) wrote:

> It is scientifically proved that the prayer of lot's of people for
> a certain person - even if they know it personally - will
> accelarate the recovery. So I call all the list members that are
> ready for a good deed to do so. If Bill will accept this. Will you,
> Bill?
> 
> Best wishes,
> Bernd
> 
> postscript: It should be necessary to know the date of your birth,
> Bill, to target our action.
> postscript 2: I mean all this seriously!
> 
> 

Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Harold Owen]

Congratulations to the Cotty Clan on their recent wedding, may the
happiness continue for years to come.

My admiration to the photographer who was still able to remain upright
and operate a camera after all the 'wee drams' that must have been
consumed during the celebrations!

Cheers - Harry
-- 
Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Further scanner questions

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

on 30.07.03 21:24, Boris Liberman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> The owner of closing photo shop in my area proposed to me to buy his 2
> month old Canon Scan FS 2710 film scanner for $450.
> 
> Any of you using it? Is it worth it?
Very expensive. I would rather look for lightly used Nikon Coolscan III,
which has ICE as opposed to this Canon. I have bought mine in almost like
new condition for 330$.

-- 
Pozdrowienia
Sylwek

Re: Letter from Scotland - Day 5

[Bill Owens]

Uh,er,ah, as a matter of fact yes.  I even thought of you this past Sunday
when I started brewing the brown and red ales.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: Letter from Scotland - Day 5


> >Could we send them to the bear habitat and let them play with the bears?
:-)
>
> LOL. And I suppose the beer habitat is PDML Central?
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
>
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Re: Letter from Scotland - Day 5

[Cotty]

>Could we send them to the bear habitat and let them play with the bears? :-)

LOL. And I suppose the beer habitat is PDML Central?




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Congrats to Cotty!!!

[Chris Stoddart]

> Cotty got himself married today.

Well Cotty, congratulations! I must say, you took me by suprise - I
thought with all those stag hints you were going shooting bloody Red Deer!

Was it a spur-of-the-moment thing or did you have it in mind before you
headed up there?

Chris

Re: Further scanner questions

[mike wilson]

Hi,

Boris wrote:

> The owner of closing photo shop in my area proposed to me to buy his 2
> month old Canon Scan FS 2710 film scanner for $450.
> 
> Any of you using it? Is it worth it?

I have the 2700.  Not impressed.  It does a competent job for what it is
but I find that saturation and sharpness are lost.  Some slides are
_impossible_ to replicate.  Also the 2710 is not supported by Vuescan,
which is important as the Canon software is worse than the scanner.  It
seems to be an intermediate model before the 4000 came out.

Mine was a shop soiled example that overwhelmed me with its cheapness. 
In other words, an impulse buy.  Don't fall into the same trap - try any
scanner before you buy.

mike

Re: Newbie Questions

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> have you compared this A28/2.8 with any other 28mm from
Pentax?

Hi Alek,

No i have not but i found some informations at
http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/pentax_primes.html
It confirms the poor quality of the A28/2.8 and suggests
that the best 28mm is the old K28/3.5 despite the size and
weight.

Rodolphe



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