RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Bill, Bill, Bill,

It was not 30 degrees out.  It was not night time, it was pre-dawn.  I could
not be driving out and about that cold with the top down.  It was only
probably in the 50s.  One of the good things about an 8-cylinder is the
amount of heat it produces.  Crank up the heat and all is well.

I recall driving about with a friend in January with the vents properly
pointed and the fan on high :-)

If I bring a PDMLer, I will try to take it easy on the way to GFMtn,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

P.S. The complete story at GFMtn


-Original Message-
From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:39 PM


Well, most people don't drive around at night in 30 degree temperatures with
the top down on their convertibles 8-)

Bill

> Ahhh yes, my first trip to GFMtn.  Talk about an interesting experience.
>
> 'We don't do that around here', paraphrasing the cop,
>
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida

RE: in da streets

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Interesting.  I have always wanted to tour the Americas before going abroad.
But all these opportunities keep coming up.

If you stay there long enough I may take you up on it.

How many free pages are left on my passport?

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:18 PM

Yaaay, come and visit me!!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 12:58 AM

> -Original Message-
> From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> tv,
>
> Maybe we can make it part of our world tour!!!

Let's do a southern hemisphere tour next winter.

tv

RE: in da streets

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Tanja,

Visiting Honduras as often as I have, not to mention other Central American
countries, I am used to not having electricity :-)

Though it would be fun to shoot them working the pedals...  I used to bike
quite a bit, I volunteer to pedal for a while to send messages to the PDML.

Need to get in training for that one,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:57 PM

Yeah, I can show you how I have my kids all set up and peddling like the
flinstones to generate the power to run my pc! hehe...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 12:34 PM

Yeah, I've been meaning to do this for a while. We'll talk at GFM.

You, short on vacation? That's like me being short on beer. Just seems
wrong.

We would also need to see how much it is to charter a donkey to Tanya's
village. I hear they have running water now, so it shouldn't be too bad.

tv

> -Original Message-
> From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:43 PM
>
> tv,
>
> I am somewhat limited in time and such, but if you are serious
>
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:58 AM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > tv,
> >
> > Maybe we can make it part of our world tour!!!
>
> Let's do a southern hemisphere tour next winter.
>
> tv

RE: in da streets

[Cesar Matamoros II]

With apologies to the list...

Digame Albano.  Que dicen de las mujeres Argentinas?

En realidad pensando una visita,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Albano Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:49 PM

come here guys, we have great beer and you now what
hey say about our women ;-)

Albano


--- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I've been meaning to do this for a while.
> We'll talk at GFM. 
> 
> You, short on vacation? That's like me being short
> on beer. Just seems
> wrong.
> 
> We would also need to see how much it is to charter
> a donkey to Tanya's
> village. I hear they have running water now, so it
> shouldn't be too bad.
> 
> tv
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cesar Matamoros II
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:43 PM
> > 
> > tv,
> > 
> > I am somewhat limited in time and such, but if you
> are serious
> > 
> > Cesar
> > Panama City, Florida
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:58 AM
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Cesar Matamoros II
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > tv,
> > > 
> > > Maybe we can make it part of our world tour!!!
> > 
> > Let's do a southern hemisphere tour next winter.
> > 
> > tv
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 


=
Albano Garcia
"El Pibe Asahi"

RE: Too Much PAW

[Cesar Matamoros II]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:45 PM

Tanja said:
> OMG - no wonder my poor hubby worries about me and "that bloody
photography
> list".  I spend half of my life convincing him that hanging out with you
lot
> is "safe"!  He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
> meeting with a bunch of "internet stalkers", lol, his words, not mine!

Just remember, at least five of us WIMMEN are planning to be there!
I'm bringing my own bodyguard, though ...

ERN


Eleanor,

You did not have to bring your own.  You just know that I would have been
the first in line to do the job.

Just ask the other WIMMEN PDMLers that have met me :-)

How far away is GFMtn?

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

RE: in da streets

[Cesar Matamoros II]

tv,

I have plenty of vacation.  It is just that I have invitations to Budapest,
London, Beirut, Spain (not sure where), and my usual suspects - Honduras,
Mexico, Belize...

I plan each international trip to be at least two weeks, or why bother...

Speaking of running water...  I recall using outhouses when visiting family
during summer vacation.  Bathing by bucket, been there, done that, within
the last two years...  Showering in palapa stalls under the stars, a nice
memory...

It would take a lot to keep me from turning my nose up at a place...

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:34 PM

Yeah, I've been meaning to do this for a while. We'll talk at GFM.

You, short on vacation? That's like me being short on beer. Just seems
wrong.

We would also need to see how much it is to charter a donkey to Tanya's
village. I hear they have running water now, so it shouldn't be too bad.

tv

> -Original Message-
> From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:43 PM
>
> tv,
>
> I am somewhat limited in time and such, but if you are serious
>
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:58 AM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > tv,
> >
> > Maybe we can make it part of our world tour!!!
>
> Let's do a southern hemisphere tour next winter.
>
> tv

RE: Whisky (was Re: PAW: A good breakfast)

[Cesar Matamoros II]

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:17 PM

On 24/2/04, CESAR AND HIS AMAZING SNAKESKINS disgorged:

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:00 AM
>>
>>On 23/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>>
>>>I'm only in London half the time right now, but if you happen to hit the
>>>right half then I'd be interested.  (Well, I'd be interested anyway but
>>>you know what I mean...)  Late May (as suggested by Keith elsewhere)
>>>would probably be good.
>>>
>>>If you want suggestions, I know a number of good real-ale pubs in West
>>>London... :-)
>>
>>Late May sounds fine.

>
>Cotty,
>
>Will you have recovered from GFMtn by then?
>
>Hmmm, maybe I can take the trip over for this one...  Looks like I will not
>be able to make it across the pond before then.
>
>Cesar
>Panama City, Florida

Now look here my lad. I know that time may have a habit if seeming to
stand still in the sleepy burbs of Florida, but it looks like it's
actually going in reverse!

End of May > pub meet London

Beginning of June > NPW

When I was younger, I could do anything to excess. Through years of
patience and self-sacrifice, I have finally put the brakes on, throttled
back, dug my heals in. The only thing I do to excess now is spend money
that I don't have...

I'll have a couple a beers, a few glasses of wine. I'm much more of a
listener than the talker I used to be. If you say, ' What you having?' in
the bar, I'll listen!



Cheers,
  Cotty

Oops!  It just goes to show what happens when I spend too much time at work.
It has gotten to the point that I no longer have a personal life and have
totally lost the sense of time.  Is it really the end of February???

This just means that I cannot make the pub meet in London :-(  I really have
to make it out there sometime...  Maybe this year is not it?  Though I did
want to make it ere my cousin leaves London.  I try to travel on the cheap,
it allows me to make it out internationally...

Maybe you can convince me to make the trip across the pond during GFMtn...

Actually relaxing reading the PDML,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

PAW: Lake Michigan wetlands

[Paul Sorenson]

Never thought I had anything good enough for PUG postings, but PAW got me
out of *lurker* mode.  Constructive criticism appreciated.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/washingt.htm

Paul

Re: PAW - Hat and Beard

[Steve Jolly]

*Nice* beard.

S

Cotty wrote:

Okay, in an effort to steer away from car threads and abstain from beer
threads, here's some dude with a hat:




Cheers,
  Cotty
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OT- A fairygirl "funny"

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Just something to make you all smile...

Again, my dad sent this to me...

Very clever and some of them take a bit to work out, but hilarious!

I love #7 and #16! hehe.

tan.

PS no offence to any Chinese PDML'ers, just a bit of fun!



Subject: FW: Chinese for dummies


For all you fast learners...

Learn Chinese in 5 minutes...  (You MUST read them out loud)
1) That's not right ..  Sum Ting Wong
2) Are you harboring a fugitive?..  Hu Yu Hai Ding
3) See me ASAP..  Kum Hia Nao
4) Stupid Man ...  Dum Fuk
5) Small Horse ...  Tai Ni Po Ni
6) Did you go to the beach?  ..  Wai Yu So Tan
7) I bumped into a coffee table .  Ai Bang Mai Fa Kin Ni
8) I think you need a face lift ..  Chin Tu Fat
9) It's very dark in here ...  Wao So Dim
10) I thought you were on a diet   Wai Yu Mun Ching?
11) This is a tow away zone ...  No Pah King
12) Our meeting is scheduled for next week ...  Wai Yu Kum Nao?
13) Staying out of sight .  Lei Ying Lo
14) He's cleaning his automobile ..  Wa Shing Ka
15) Your body odor is offensive ...  Yu Stin Ki Pu
16) Great ..  Fa Kin Su Pah

RE: GFM

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Hi guys - yep, it will constitute a tax deduction but will make little
difference to me this year.  I will already be making a "loss" due to
purchases such as *istD, studio lights, new PC, laptop etc which already add
up to well over $12k.  Of course, I am not REALLY making a loss, but being
my first year in business, it will appear that way, thus I won't be paying
any tax anyways.  Yes, I will be able to claim it as a tax deduction but it
doesn't really help that much when I won't be paying any tax anyways... (It
will carry through to next year, but that doesn't help now! lol).

tan.

-Original Message-
From: David Miers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFM


I don't know about Australian law, but a tax write off?

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 7:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFM



It is going to cost me around au$4k to come, and I could have my entire
office and front verandah gutted and renovated for that amount, so convince
me guys, how can I truly justify the expense?  And don't just say because of
how much fun it'll be, I already know that! lol...

tan.

Re: Too much mail

[Steve Jolly]

I thought I should add my support to the PAW concept in its current 
incarnation.  I'll personally try to average one photo a week (or 
fewer), I guess.  I disagree with the suggestion of limiting the photos 
to those taken with Pentax equipment - there's already the PUG for that, 
and besides, I find it interesting to see what people have to complement 
their Pentax SLRs, and how well it performs. :-)

S

Amita Guha wrote:

Frankly, it seems that there are enough people here who like 
the concept just the way it is.  


I agree. I think the PAW is great the way it is. It has already allowed
me to display a couple of shots here that I couldn't have posted on the
PUG for one reason or another. We always talk about the gear on this
list, or about technique, but we so rarely discuss the results, or what
moves us to shoot, except for once a month when the PUG comes out. This
is a great way to share our common passion. And I think it's great that
it's drawing some lurkers out into the open.
Quite frankly, the endless talks about gear or cars or what have you can
get tedious, but I don't complain about them because that seems to be
what everyone wants to talk about. Likewise, if a lot of people are into
the PAW and you don't like it, just ignore it.
And I agree with Shel or whoever it was who said that it shouldn't be
restricted to just Pentax gear, since we're not hosting it on
PDML-sanctioned web space. 

Amita

Re: PK-fit Elmar's head (Was: PK mount lenses)

[Andre Langevin]

I did unscrew the Elmar head (with elastic band and following 
instruction gathered on google).  It has a thread about 39.5mm and 
very fine.  Unusable.

The Tele-Elmar's head has a LTM 39mm thread.  It is also 50% more 
expensive than the Elmar.  But it is said to have more saturated 
color.  I'll keep an eye opened and will try to sell my Elmar.

Andre

Re: Photoshop CS RAW Converter

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 Feb 2004 at 21:28, William Robb wrote:

> I just bought my second 1 gig card today.
> Thats over a hundred rolls of film, bought, processed and printed
> just on memory alone.
> Anyone who thinks digital is even remotely inexpensive was shooting a
> hell of a lot of pictures on film.

Lucky sods, a roll of Fuji Velvia 100 135-36 RVP here is AU$20.61 (Vanbar), E-6 
D&D processing without mounting is AU$8.80, 1GB Ridata Ultra-Pro 52x CF card is 
AU$401.50 (Power in Numbers). So here 1GB card is equivalent to 13.5 rolls of 
Velvia processed and unmounted (or about 15 rolls if you buy 5 roll pro-packs).


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: PAW - Happy Daze (just for Wendy)

[Stan Halpin]

Shi-Tzu's are virtually always happy. Or dazed. When God was 
allocating brains among dogs, Shi-Tzu's were off playing.

Stan

Peter J. Alling wrote:

Nice detail but he/she doesn't look happy...

Stan Halpin wrote:

OK - I'll play the game and give people a chance to fire back at me...

http://home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/HappyDaze.jpg

This is absolutely untouched except for resizing and compressing. No 
sharpening, no color or levels work, no nothing.

*ist-D with FA* 80-200/2.8 @ 200mm, handheld. Taken this last weekend 
at a bike race. This is one of the interested spectators...

Stan

Re: PAW - Happy Daze (just for Wendy)

[Stan Halpin]

That dog is a wimp. I don't think she bites her food without 
asking it first if it is ok. I just met her Saturday, but we 
had one like her.

Stan

graywolf wrote:

That is an angry looking Wookey. Watch out or you will wind up with your 
arm torn off. (grin)

--

Stan Halpin wrote:

OK - I'll play the game and give people a chance to fire back at me...

http://home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/HappyDaze.jpg

This is absolutely untouched except for resizing and compressing. No 
sharpening, no color or levels work, no nothing.

*ist-D with FA* 80-200/2.8 @ 200mm, handheld. Taken this last weekend 
at a bike race. This is one of the interested spectators...

Stan

Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[ernreed2]

John Mustarde:
> The Tamron 24-135 handles well, is fairly sharp at all f-stops, and
> the magnification factor is handy, but it's not well suited for
> outdoor pics on a sunny day even with its tulip hood.  
> 
> Flares badly, to say the least.
> 
> http://www.photolin.com/misc/flare.jpg
> 
> Oh where's the Pentax Super Multi-Coating when you need it?

On Pentax lenses?

ERN

Re: Too Much PAW

[ernreed2]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Tanja said: 
> >  
> >
> >>OMG - no wonder my poor hubby worries about me and "that bloody photography
> >>list".  I spend half of my life convincing him that hanging out with you lot
> >>is "safe"!  He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
> >>meeting with a bunch of "internet stalkers", lol, his words, not mine!
> >>
> >>
I said:
> >Just remember, at least five of us WIMMEN are planning to be there!
> >I'm bringing my own bodyguard, though ... 
> >
so then Peter J. Alling inquired:
> And a shotgun?
> 
The bodyguard says to tell you his new SUV doesn't have a gun rack yet.

ERN

RE: Digicam Slide Duplicator / Scanner

[Andy Chang]

Shel,
It looks pretty good to me. I was thinking about doing the same thing a
while ago with my Oly 5050 but never got around to do it... (cause I'm
lazy). I'll give it a try this weekend if the weather is bad... 

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:41 AM
To: PDML
Subject: Digicam Slide Duplicator / Scanner

There has been some discussion here about finding a slide
duplicator for the istd.  Well, I was looking at some slides
on the light box earlier, and decided to try out the little
Sony's macro setup to copy a slide.  I did a few, and seem
to have gotten a little better at it.  So, FWIW, here's a
slide duplicated/scanned with the Sony.

This may not have been the best frame to use for the
experiment, but it was handy.

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/peris.html

Comments?

Re: PAW - Happy Daze (just for Wendy)

[graywolf]

That is an angry looking Wookey. Watch out or you will wind up with your arm 
torn off. (grin)

--

Stan Halpin wrote:
OK - I'll play the game and give people a chance to fire back at me...

http://home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/HappyDaze.jpg

This is absolutely untouched except for resizing and compressing. No 
sharpening, no color or levels work, no nothing.

*ist-D with FA* 80-200/2.8 @ 200mm, handheld. Taken this last weekend at 
a bike race. This is one of the interested spectators...

Stan


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."

Re: The Local Pentax SLR Conundrum

[ernreed2]

> From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Cord tells me that the reason they're not stocking the istD
> > (or any other Pentax SLR) is because Pentax is not able to
> > deliver the quantities they need for building volume sales
> > and the large customer base that a retailer needs to establish
> > a product line.
> >
> > But they do sell a lot of Pentax p&s, both film & digital.
> 
> One of the stores in San Antonio will no longer be carrying anything by
> Pentax. The only other stores has minimal stock.
> 
> Mark
> 

Which is which, Mark (like I can't guess?)
ERN

Re: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

[Mark Cassino]

At 11:26 AM 2/26/2004 +1000, John Coyle wrote:

Mark, have you checked p131 of the manual?   There are a couple of
situations mentioned there, including, of course, low batteries!
Thanks - tried new batteries, ran down the checklist in the manual. Still
no flash. On the bright side - I did learn about the Auto setting. Didn't
even know that was there.
Looks like I'll have to ship it off to Colorado for repairs. Last summer I
had a problem with the "Lock" setting staying locked even when the switch
was moved out of the lock position, so I guess they can fix that as well.
- MCC

-

Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-

RE: I did a bad thing

[ernreed2]

Cesar said:
> Come on now.  I did not say it would be snake skinned, now did I?
> 
> I seem to recall your not having too much of a problem sitting beside me and
> close to the LX for our group shot in San Antonio.

I seem to recall that someone was always closer to the snaky LX than I was. 
Also, I never actually touched it.

ERN

RE: in da streets

[Doug Franklin]

>From: Albano Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>come here guys, we have great beer and you now what
>hey say about our women ;-)

Yes, I know.  I even dated one, years ago.  Almost killed me, she did.
:-)  Now I just have to scrape together some cash.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Digicam Slide Duplicator / Scanner

[Shel Belinkoff]

There has been some discussion here about finding a slide
duplicator for the istd.  Well, I was looking at some slides
on the light box earlier, and decided to try out the little
Sony's macro setup to copy a slide.  I did a few, and seem
to have gotten a little better at it.  So, FWIW, here's a
slide duplicated/scanned with the Sony.

This may not have been the best frame to use for the
experiment, but it was handy.

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/peris.html

Comments?

Re: PAW - Happy Daze (just for Wendy)

[Peter J. Alling]

Nice detail but he/she doesn't look happy...

Stan Halpin wrote:

OK - I'll play the game and give people a chance to fire back at me...

http://home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/HappyDaze.jpg

This is absolutely untouched except for resizing and compressing. No 
sharpening, no color or levels work, no nothing.

*ist-D with FA* 80-200/2.8 @ 200mm, handheld. Taken this last weekend 
at a bike race. This is one of the interested spectators...

Stan

Re: Photoshop CS RAW Converter

[William Robb]

> >Yeah - the "digital is free" mantra sounds a bit hollow as you
punch in you
> >charge card numbers into the Adobe site - but it's worth it!
> >

I just bought my second 1 gig card today.
Thats over a hundred rolls of film, bought, processed and printed
just on memory alone.
Anyone who thinks digital is even remotely inexpensive was shooting a
hell of a lot of pictures on film.

William Robb

Re: in da streets

[Peter J. Alling]

Hey guy's watch it, you woke up Frank.

frank theriault wrote:

Beer?

Women?

Huh?

-frank

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The 
pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Albano Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




come here guys, we have great beer and you now what
hey say about our women ;-)
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Re: Too Much PAW

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 23:02:54 +0200, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

> Lasse (who fondless ass she photographss)

You're a _bad_, _bad, boy Lasse.  But it's the comment I would have
made, had I been so bold, so I guess that makes me one, too. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[John Mustarde]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:39:03 -0500, you wrote:

>Nikon's 24-120 is reportedly a big seller (and very popular with the
>wedding shooters). There are a couple of options in the 24-135 range,
>too (Sigma, Tamron).
>And the Pentax 24-90 is in the ballpark, too :)


The Tamron 24-135 handles well, is fairly sharp at all f-stops, and
the magnification factor is handy, but it's not well suited for
outdoor pics on a sunny day even with its tulip hood.  

Flares badly, to say the least.

http://www.photolin.com/misc/flare.jpg

Oh where's the Pentax Super Multi-Coating when you need it?


--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:38:58 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Shoot! Any astronauts on the list?
> 
> Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that
> was back in college.

I'm guessing that was _inner_ space, if your college years were
anything like mine. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: WAY OT - Top speed- Cars

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:25:02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Cory
> Hasn't been over a hundred since that day.

Cory, you _have_ to do a track day with us!

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Butch Black]

On 24/2/04, DAN 'ZIPPY' MAYTOLA disgorged:

>Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter.


So you flew Phantoms. I was a jet engine mechanic in the USAF and used to
work on J79-15 engines for the RF4-C recon version

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: Too Much PAW

[Peter J. Alling]

And a shotgun?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tanja said: 
 

OMG - no wonder my poor hubby worries about me and "that bloody photography
list".  I spend half of my life convincing him that hanging out with you lot
is "safe"!  He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
meeting with a bunch of "internet stalkers", lol, his words, not mine!
   

Just remember, at least five of us WIMMEN are planning to be there!
I'm bringing my own bodyguard, though ... 

ERN

 

Re: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)

[Peter J. Alling]

I don't even want to think about it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

frank theriault wrote:
 

I dunno.

"Spotmatic" was a pretty cool name, IMHO.
 

and Peter Alling commented:
 

Well, you had 30 years for it to grow on you who knows *ist may seem to 
be a cool name in 30 years.

   

Yeah -- who knows WHAT names they may come up with between now and then!!

ERN

 

Soft focus (was Re: PAW - My first)

[Butch Black]

Any suggestions that would mimic a soft focus lens reasonably well?
Diffusers are not at all the same type of animal.

Zeiss softar filters are supposed to be good but very expensive. With the
*ist-D I think I would just use gaussian blur in PS, duplicate the
background layer first, then apply, then use the erase tool carefully on the
eyes, eyebrows and mouth. If the eyes are sharp the soft focus looks less
artificial. finally bring the opacity on the blurred level down to 80-85%,
again makes it look less artificial.

Contact me off list if you want to see a couple examples

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)

RE: Too Much PAW

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Yeah, somehow, judging by the looks of Frank's bunny ears, I think I'll be
pretty safe.  Unless that is, Cotty squashes me in the back of tv's car on
the drive to GFM!

hehe...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 12:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Too Much PAW


Tanja said:
> OMG - no wonder my poor hubby worries about me and "that bloody
photography
> list".  I spend half of my life convincing him that hanging out with you
lot
> is "safe"!  He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
> meeting with a bunch of "internet stalkers", lol, his words, not mine!

Just remember, at least five of us WIMMEN are planning to be there!
I'm bringing my own bodyguard, though ...

ERN

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Bill Owens]

Well, most people don't drive around at night in 30 degree temperatures with
the top down on their convertibles 8-)

Bill

> Ahhh yes, my first trip to GFMtn.  Talk about an interesting experience.
>
> 'We don't do that around here', paraphrasing the cop,
>
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida

Re: PAW (4 pictures street photography)

[Stan Halpin]

These shots do not do a great deal for me. They are like 
many which I have taken when I have traveled - they remind 
me of a time/place, but they have little impact for anyone else.

Of the four, I like the broad view of City Hall the best.

The others, I am not sure what you are seeing. For example, 
the one with the balcony and roof line: is this of the 
balcony railing? The roofline in the background? Both? As it 
is, the elements fight one another. If you were slightly 
higher, then the roofs would seem to rest on top of the 
railing, and you would have an interesting effect, maybe. If 
you were lower and shot with very shallow depth of field, 
then the roofs would be hidden and you could have a nice 
'texture/detail' shot of the railing.

With the shot of the full City Hall, if you had moved 
forward a bit you might have gotten more of a reflection of 
the tower in the river, plus you would have eliminated the 
distraction of the railing in the foreground.

All minor things, just some thoughts for you to try next time.

Thanks for sharing!

Stan

Boros Attila wrote:

At last I got developed my first pictures taken with my new camera,
the MZ-6. So here they are:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2161546
A balcony with a good view in Oradea, downtown. I think it is nicer in B&W.
The following two picutres were taken from that balcony:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2161563
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2161567
The City Hall from a window near the balcony. I wanted the river to be
in the picture, there were nice highlights in it, as can be seen in
the bottom left corner.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2161557
Comments are wellcome:)

Attila

Re: The Local Pentax SLR Conundrum

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cesar Matamoros II"
Subject: RE: The Local Pentax SLR Conundrum


> That is what I am seeing, they are selling well.  My local store,
> unbeknownst to me has sold 6 *ist Ds, and at least 6 Optio Ss,
along with
> just about every other Pentax p&s, and apparently not doing too
shabby with
> the SLRs.
>

I asked at my local shop today. The girl said the istD was a steady
seller.
I didn't ask about anything else.

William Robb

Re: GFM

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography"
Subject: RE: GFM



>, so convince
> me guys, how can I truly justify the expense?  And don't just say
because of
> how much fun it'll be, I already know that! lol...

1) You will be visiting a foreign land, which is always educational.

2) You will be spending several days at what is a very well respected
photographic retreat, chock full of seminars given by people who are
very, very good photographers.

3) If you pay attention, you will likely learn more about the art and
craft of photography in that weekend than you could learn in several
years of self education.

4) It may well be a once in a lifetime experience, and would be a
shame to miss out on.

5) It could probably be considered a tax deduction, and may cost you
far less than you think.

William Robb

Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[Alan Chan]

Anyone ever used the Tamron 28-105 f/2.8? I've heard diametrically
opposing opinions of it.
Tamron was making some laughable "SP" lenses in recent history, and the 
SP35-105/2.8 & SP28-105/2.8 are the most expensive junk thus far (I had the 
35-105/2.8). Fortunately, they learnt from their huge mistake and start 
making some nice & affordable SP lenses again (17-35/2.8-4, 28-75/2.8, 
70-210/2.8, 180/3.5 macro).

Regards,
Alan Chan
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RE: The Local Pentax SLR Conundrum

[Cesar Matamoros II]

That is what I am seeing, they are selling well.  My local store,
unbeknownst to me has sold 6 *ist Ds, and at least 6 Optio Ss, along with
just about every other Pentax p&s, and apparently not doing too shabby with
the SLRs.

I have not looked lately, but they may still have an MZ-S,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Local Pentax SLR Conundrum


Cord tells me that the reason they're not stocking the istD
(or any other Pentax SLR) is because Pentax is not able to
deliver the quantities they need for building volume sales
and the large customer base that a retailer needs to establish
a product line.

But they do sell a lot of Pentax p&s, both film & digital.

Collin

RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Ahhh yes, my first trip to GFMtn.  Talk about an interesting experience. 

'We don't do that around here', paraphrasing the cop,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 7:51 AM

"Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>My '96 Mustang Cobra convertible I have gotten to 100mph while passing in
>3rd gear with the top down.  Try not to do that too often, the police look
>out for cars like mine.

Don't we know!
;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: I did a bad thing

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Eleanor,

Come on now.  I did not say it would be snake skinned, now did I?

I seem to recall your not having too much of a problem sitting beside me and
close to the LX for our group shot in San Antonio.

See you at GFMtn,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:12 PM

Cesar posted:
>
> I may just [re-skin] my 645n to see tv really shrink away from it.
>

tv and WHO ELSE???!!!

ERN
the
ophidiophobic

Re: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

[John Coyle]

Mark, have you checked p131 of the manual?   There are a couple of
situations mentioned there, including, of course, low batteries!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:21 AM
Subject: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem


> I suspect that something is broken here, but I'm wondering if I just have
a
> setting goofed up...
>
> The built in flash on my Mz-S just plain does not work.  I pop it up,
> nothing happens - when in program mode the shutter and aperture speeds
> don't change and it does not fire.  Wireless flash with the AF360FGZ also
> does not owrk, but the flash unit seems to work when it is mounted on the
> camera.
>
> I fiddled around with the flash button on the camera and have it set with
> just the flash indicator in the LCD (no wireless, redeye, highspeed,
> etc.)  I also checked the Pentax function settings for functions 9, 10,
and 11.
>
> I'm guessing that it will need a trip to Pentax repair - any ideas about
> what might disable the flash or other settings to check?
>
> - MCC
> -
>
> Mark Cassino Photography
>
> Kalamazoo, MI
>
> http://www.markcassino.com
>
> -
>
>

Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[Sung Nee]

At 20:45 25/02/04, you wrote:
Anyone ever used the Tamron 28-105 f/2.8? I've heard diametrically
opposing opinions of it.
I have one. I use it for my Minolta. I found it to be quite nice, not too 
sharp, but certainly not soft. It's great for weddings because it does not 
render overly fine details of the blemishes of the skin. But it's heavy and 
a bit big.

Best regards

Sung Nee 

Re: WAY OT - Top speed- Cars

[John Coyle]

1959 for me - but I got lucky once when I had a busted speedo on the Mini.
Cop pulled me over and said "Would you continue to do less than 30, please
sir?" (the limit in urban areas in those days was 30 mph).  I, of course,
said yes, praying he wouldn't notice that the speedo was reading 85 mph!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I've been driving since 1960 and have had NO speeding tickets or
moving
> violations.
>
> Bill
>
>

Re: PK-fit Elmar's head (Was: PK mount lenses)

[Sung Nee]

At 04:00 26/02/04, you wrote:
I have an Elmar 135 f4 (M).  Can I unscrew the head?
Yes!

>>I can only unscrew a little aluminum ring under the aperture ring.
It uncovers some screws.  Should I go on?<<
Yes, I think so.

>>If it unscrews, I could maybe adapt the head to a Pentax zoom tube.<<

The part that gets unscrewed is the lens itself. The bigger part left 
behind is called the focusing mount. Unfortunately the 135 cannot be 
attached to a Pentax zoom tube. My technician used the Pentax zoom tube 
because it happened to fit the 90 lens, that's all. He made another tube 
for my 135 lens, which can only be used for the 135 lens.

Best regards

Sung Nee 

RE: Very enjoyable evening

[tom]

What did you eat? 

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:09 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Very enjoyable evening
> 
> I got a call today from our local Pentax rep letting me know 
> he was in town and invited the wife and I to dinner.  We had 
> a wonderful time, and even ran into a mutual friend at the 
> restaurant which made it even more enjoyable.
> He also loaned me his 18-35 to try on my ist* D. All and all 
> a great evening.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 

RE: in da streets

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Yaaay, come and visit me!!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 12:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: in da streets


> -Original Message-
> From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> tv,
> 
> Maybe we can make it part of our world tour!!!

Let's do a southern hemisphere tour next winter.

tv

Very enjoyable evening

[Bill Owens]

I got a call today from our local Pentax rep letting me know he was in town
and invited the wife and I to dinner.  We had a wonderful time, and even ran
into a mutual friend at the restaurant which made it even more enjoyable.
He also loaned me his 18-35 to try on my ist* D. All and all a great
evening.

Bill

Re: GFM

[Stan Halpin]

In this country it would be a deductible business expense. 
You would recoup most of the cost in tax savings.

And think how you can jack up your prices once you can say 
'I studied with tv in North Carolina, that is in the States 
you know, and so of course my rates will be higher than the 
others. I am better and I deserve more.'

Stan

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

ops, i've been discovered...

Ok, so I couldn't keep my mouth shut could i?

Well, here's the deal...

I am pre-registered for GFM

I am NOT bothering with my sister and her whole wedding fiasco, I basically
told her and my mum to "go jump"...
I have kept the dates free in my diary and have already turned down a couple
of bookings for that weekend...
I am saving the  to come...

I am struggling with the guilt of spending such dollars on a selfish and
somewhat frivolous endeavour when we have a house that needs renovating
badly and other bills to pay...
I am struggling with the thought of being away from my kids for over 10
days...
I THINK I am coming, BUT have to get over the guilt thing and the whole
"sooky mother" thing
I haven't posted about it to list up 'til now (except to email a few of you
to discuss it, you know who you are! lol), as I didn't want to be seemed to
be "piking out" again.  I had planned to wait until I had the aeroplane
ticket in my hot little hand before making the grand announcement...
That was, until I decided to try to be a smart arse again and gave myself
away! lol, Cotty, you would have to notice it and make me "come out of the
closet" wouldn't you!?!
It is going to cost me around au$4k to come, and I could have my entire
office and front verandah gutted and renovated for that amount, so convince
me guys, how can I truly justify the expense?  And don't just say because of
how much fun it'll be, I already know that! lol...
tan.





-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 9:10 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: GFM
On 24/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:


Beware GFM'ers - there will be a sober person around WITH camera, and a
DIGITAL one at that - no film limitations to worry about... lol!


Hey Fairygilr, does this mean you have decided to go to GFM?



Cheers,
  Cotty
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Photographer a Week

[Bill Sawyer]

Here is Bill Schwab's website. He's a Detroit native, has a style much like
the better known Michael Kenna.  For the darkroom aficiando's, check out his
"darkroom cam."

http://www.billschwab.com/

Has anyone thought about incorporating Shel's idea into their website, as a
list of links?

Re: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[Keith Whaley]

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
> When I moved from Missouri/Kansas to California I had to redefine some
> of my thinking.
> 
> In the midwest, "no cars on the road" meant NO cars on the road.
> In California, "no cars on the road" means that you can go the speed
> limit or faster.  

Well, not necessarily!

> There are always cars on the road!

Literally! Whether 0230 or 1430. . .always cars, and more cars. . .
And, that may NOT mean you can drive the posted limit.
My wife and I started on a trip up North, a few months ago. . . about
0500-0515. 
Figured there'd be little less traffic then, until we got further out in
the boonies.
Hah!
Not a heck of a lot different from 0930, same route. . .

keith whaley

> Bruce
> 
> Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 4:20:35 PM, you wrote:
> 
> ft> Sounds like when I used to live in Kitchener/Waterloo.  I used to joke that
> ft> a KW "traffic jam" was 6 cars at a stop light.
> 
> ft> No one laughed, but I always thought it was funny...
> 
> ft> 
> 
> ft> cheers,
> ft> frank
> 
> ft> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
> ft> fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
> 
> >>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >>I'm so glad that where I live, we only get that kind of traffic for
> >>about 5 minutes in the morning, and 5 minutes in the afternoon.
> >>
> >>William Robb

RE: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

That is a cool shot Shel...

You know what I don't think there is even that many cars in my entire town!
lol

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 10:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California


Usually not quite as bad ... poor weather slows the commute
down quite a bit.

I LOVE watching the commuters from my window while enjoying
a fresh brioche and a nice cuppa cawfee.

I grab a shot from the window whenever there's interesting
weather or something else that catches my eye.  They're
nothing much, just a record of what's going on out there.

frank theriault wrote:
>
> Is the expressway that crowded every morning?
>
> I'm so glad I don't have to commute!  Where I live, it's 15 minutes from
> downtown by bike, the same by car, and about 20 by subway.
>
> An interesting, if dismal, photo.  

RE: OT: The new product range from Apple...

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

OMG!! How funny...!

This one is the best...

http://www.electric-chicken.co.uk/oldoryoung.html

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 9:53 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: OT: The new product range from Apple...


On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Hi,
>
>should have been called the i-Cac.
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
> Bob

That's even funnier than the ad ;-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[Bruce Dayton]

When I moved from Missouri/Kansas to California I had to redefine some
of my thinking.

In the midwest, "no cars on the road" meant NO cars on the road.
In California, "no cars on the road" means that you can go the speed
limit or faster.  There are always cars on the road!


Bruce


Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 4:20:35 PM, you wrote:

ft> Sounds like when I used to live in Kitchener/Waterloo.  I used to joke that
ft> a KW "traffic jam" was 6 cars at a stop light.

ft> No one laughed, but I always thought it was funny...

ft> 

ft> cheers,
ft> frank

ft> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
ft> fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




>>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>I'm so glad that where I live, we only get that kind of traffic for
>>about 5 minutes in the morning, and 5 minutes in the afternoon.
>>
>>William Robb
>>
>>

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RE: GFM

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

ops, i've been discovered...

Ok, so I couldn't keep my mouth shut could i?

Well, here's the deal...

I am pre-registered for GFM

I am NOT bothering with my sister and her whole wedding fiasco, I basically
told her and my mum to "go jump"...

I have kept the dates free in my diary and have already turned down a couple
of bookings for that weekend...

I am saving the  to come...

I am struggling with the guilt of spending such dollars on a selfish and
somewhat frivolous endeavour when we have a house that needs renovating
badly and other bills to pay...

I am struggling with the thought of being away from my kids for over 10
days...

I THINK I am coming, BUT have to get over the guilt thing and the whole
"sooky mother" thing

I haven't posted about it to list up 'til now (except to email a few of you
to discuss it, you know who you are! lol), as I didn't want to be seemed to
be "piking out" again.  I had planned to wait until I had the aeroplane
ticket in my hot little hand before making the grand announcement...

That was, until I decided to try to be a smart arse again and gave myself
away! lol, Cotty, you would have to notice it and make me "come out of the
closet" wouldn't you!?!

It is going to cost me around au$4k to come, and I could have my entire
office and front verandah gutted and renovated for that amount, so convince
me guys, how can I truly justify the expense?  And don't just say because of
how much fun it'll be, I already know that! lol...

tan.





-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 9:10 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: GFM


On 24/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Beware GFM'ers - there will be a sober person around WITH camera, and a
>DIGITAL one at that - no film limitations to worry about... lol!

Hey Fairygilr, does this mean you have decided to go to GFM?



Cheers,
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Re: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/25/2004 3:43:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:55:02 -0800
>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/rainview.html
>
>Taken from my bedroom window this morning ...
>

We've been having bad weather too in N. CA. The fog and rain and/or cold has 
continued and continued. Been a bummer. Approaching the end of Feb. I tend to 
expect more spring.

Looks like traffic we have in the Bay Area. Could be the local freeway at 
rush hour, in fact.

Species automobilis in its natural habitat :-)


Marnie aka Doe 

Re: OT - Photoshop question

[Herb Chong]

whic version of PS? the CS version allows Contact Sheet II direct from File
Browser and you have your choice of all images or only selected images. PS 7
doesn't allow it and you have to use File|Automate.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: OT - Photoshop question


> Any suggestions as to how I can print a 'contact-sheet' page of pics
> straight from the File Browser in Photoshop - without using Contact Sheet
> II ??

Re: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[frank theriault]

Sounds like when I used to live in Kitchener/Waterloo.  I used to joke that 
a KW "traffic jam" was 6 cars at a stop light.

No one laughed, but I always thought it was funny...



cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm so glad that where I live, we only get that kind of traffic for
about 5 minutes in the morning, and 5 minutes in the afternoon.
William Robb


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RE: Too Much PAW

[frank theriault]

Tanya,

Call hubby over to the computer right now.

Show him this:

http://www.nrg666.com/pdml/portraits/pages/FrankTheriault.htm

It will calm any concerns he might have about the quality of people you'll 
meet at GFM.

cheers,
frank
PS:  I couldn't help thinking, when I read your husband's comment about 
"internet stalkers", "Yeah, we've all been on this list for years and years, 
quietly planning and waiting, being patient, waiting for the moment to 
strike, viper-like, at our prey..."  

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




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 He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
meeting with a bunch of "internet stalkers", lol, his words, not mine!

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Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter.
>>>
>>>Shoot! Any astronauts on the list?
>>
>>Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that was back
>>in college.
>>Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing, though...
>
>You're a wise-acre, Roberts ;-) Can you teach me?

I would never presume to offer any teaching to the acknowledged master.

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Re: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault"
Subject: RE: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California


> Is the expressway that crowded every morning?
>
> I'm so glad I don't have to commute!  Where I live, it's 15 minutes
from
> downtown by bike, the same by car, and about 20 by subway.
>

I'm so glad that where I live, we only get that kind of traffic for
about 5 minutes in the morning, and 5 minutes in the afternoon.

William Robb

Re: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[Shel Belinkoff]

Usually not quite as bad ... poor weather slows the commute
down quite a bit.

I LOVE watching the commuters from my window while enjoying
a fresh brioche and a nice cuppa cawfee.

I grab a shot from the window whenever there's interesting
weather or something else that catches my eye.  They're
nothing much, just a record of what's going on out there.

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> Is the expressway that crowded every morning?
> 
> I'm so glad I don't have to commute!  Where I live, it's 15 minutes from
> downtown by bike, the same by car, and about 20 by subway.
> 
> An interesting, if dismal, photo.  

Re: Bulk Film Loader Ques

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Bulk Film Loader Ques


> Been thinking about getting a bulk film loader.  Is anyone
> still using these things.  Which brands are considered
> better?  I'd want a very good quality loader and don't mind
> paying a little extra for it.

If you can find a Lloyd, go for it.
Simple design, and easy to use.
It has one weakness which is the felt light seal needs to be kept
clean.
I have 2 Lloyds, one is over 30 years old now, and have never had a
scratched film because of the loader.
The other loader I have is the Watson, which is plasticy and
gimmicky.
It does the job, but not as nicely as the Lloyd.

William Robb

Re: OT - Photoshop question

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty"
Subject: OT - Photoshop question


> Any suggestions as to how I can print a 'contact-sheet' page of
pics
> straight from the File Browser in Photoshop - without using Contact
Sheet
> II ??

On a Windows machine, you could do a snapshot of the screen and paste
that into a new canvas.
I don't know if you can do that with those other machines though.

William Robb

RE: Too Much PAW

[Cotty]

On 25/2/04, TANJA THE SWEET disgorged:

>OMG - no wonder my poor hubby worries about me and "that bloody photography
>list".  I spend half of my life convincing him that hanging out with you lot
>is "safe"!  He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
>meeting with a bunch of "internet stalkers", lol, his words, not mine!

LOL. You should listen to him more.


Cheers,
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Re: Too Much PAW

[Cotty]

On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>> On 24/2/04, TAN THE FONDLER disgorged:
>> 
>> >hehe, the challenge is on!
>> >
>> >tan. (who "fondles" AS she photographs)
>> >
>> >ps no wise arse comments about "fondling", ok Cotty? hehe.
>> 
>> I'll let someone else have a go :-)
>> 
>> Cue Lasse...
>
>Yes, yes, Cotty... You want me to have a go at fondling, yes?
>I haven't been following the thread in detail, but I recall something
>about tans bottom and now she says she fondles AS she photographs. Am I
>to step in here?
>Sure, I'll do the fondling if it helps. Just send me an airline ticket,
>one tuna sandwich and a note to the captain where to take me and I'd be
>most happy to oblige.
>
>Lasse (who fondless ass she photographss)

Oh Lord. Scandinavians. It's all bottoms isn't it.

Well, she asked for it.


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Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Cotty]

On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>>>Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter.
>>
>>Shoot! Any astronauts on the list?
>
>Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that was back
>in college.
>Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing, though...

You're a wise-acre, Roberts ;-) Can you teach me?


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Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Cotty]

On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>>Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter.
>
>Shoot! Any astronauts on the list?
>
>As George Kennedy said to a hapless Global Aiways pilot trying to taxi a
>stuck 707 from the snow when he protested that he had clocked up half a
>million miles in the air:
>
>'Yeah, well you've only managed three feet on the ground!'

Apologies. 'Airport'.




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Re: London PubDML (was Re: Whisky)

[John Dallman]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Clark) wrote:

> I know a quaint little pub where they mainly  sell Peter's Ales.

I'm keen; prefer a weekend. 

--- 
John Dallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], HTML mail is treated as probable spam.

Re: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)

[frank theriault]

I don't care what you guys say.  I thought Spotmatic sounded cool back in 
the "60's, and I think it sounds cool now.  And nothing anyone says is going 
to change my opinion.

Ever.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:34:42 -0500
Yes, it sounded like something to remove spots from your trousers.

--

frank theriault wrote:

I dunno.

"Spotmatic" was a pretty cool name, IMHO.
--
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you are not going to be able to change them anyway."

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Re: OT: The new product range from Apple...

[Cotty]

On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Hi,
>
>should have been called the i-Cac.
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
> Bob

That's even funnier than the ad ;-)



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OT: The new product range from Apple...

[Cotty]

On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>http://www.electric-chicken.co.uk/

ROTFL!


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Re: zooms

[Robert Gonzalez]

I have an F35-135, I don't know if its the same optical formula as the 
A35-135, but mine is very soft optically.

rg

Andre Langevin wrote:

Well, I have repeatedly heard on the PDML that A35-105mm was one of 
the best zooms made by Pentax.  Although optically, not mechanically. 
Some comments (maybe 10) are on Stan Halpin's site.

I have seen very few comments about the A35-135, but I remember it was 
not said it was great.  My opinion on this one may not be well 
informed...

Andre

On 24 Feb 2004 at 18:23, Andre Langevin wrote:

 A35-105mm is viewed here as one of the best zoom ever made by Asahi
 while the 35-135 could be one of the worst.


Where is here and what were they being compared to?

Rob Studdert

Re: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

[Mark Cassino]

At 01:46 PM 2/25/2004 -0500, Robert & Leigh Woerner wrote:

Does the flash work in servo mode?


I'm not sure what servo mode is - the AF?  I tried it with AF disabled, to 
no avail...

- MCC
-
Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-

RE: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California

[frank theriault]

Is the expressway that crowded every morning?

I'm so glad I don't have to commute!  Where I live, it's 15 minutes from 
downtown by bike, the same by car, and about 20 by subway.

An interesting, if dismal, photo.  

-frank

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Not exactly PAW: Sunny California
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:55:02 -0800
http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/rainview.html

Taken from my bedroom window this morning ...

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Re: *istD - I got one, and it's great!

[Mark Erickson]

Nick, 

I really like my MZ-S interface too.  I would have been
happy if Pentax had just taken their MZ-D design (you
know, the full-frame DSLR that they never released) and
redone the electronics with a sensor like that in the
*istD.  It would be s nice to have a consistent user
interface between digital and film SLRs. 

Of course that approach would have precluded a couple of
the cost-saving elements of the *istD, namely the plastic
body and less-functional version of the K mount.  Oh well. 

--Mark 

Well the *istD body I "accidentally" bought on eBay for 
£732.56 arrived OK. It appears brand new, the batteries 
are sealed, and it has a proper Pentax UK
warranty registration card. Seems a bargain. 

I've started to play with it and have a couple of observations: 

1) The viewfinder shows much less of the image than the LCD 
Monitor. Perhaps the film cameras are like that too but 
the delay between taking the picture and getting the result 
makes it less obvious. Strange thing is that the effect
seems more pronounced with distant subjects than with closeups. 

2) Ergonomically it is nowhere near as good as my MZ-S. 
It's not bad, but the MZ-S is a masterpiece. Why Pentax 
couldn't have left at least some of the controls in the same 
place mystifies me. The green button is in a particularly
awkward place given the frequency with which it is used. 

I need to get out to take some proper pictures to see 
how it handles in the field, and to see what the 1.5 crop 
means in practice. I am well pleased with
it though, and think I got a bargain. 

Nick

London PDML Pubs (was: Re: Whisky)

[Cotty]

On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I would suggest a West London venue, perhaps starting at the pubs by
>Hammersmith
>Bridge and heading west along the river. Especially on a late spring
>or early summer evening.
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
> Bob


That sounds perfectly fabulous. I love the river.


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Re: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)

[Peter J. Alling]

Well, you had 30 years for it to grow on you who knows *ist may seem to 
be a cool name in 30 years.

frank theriault wrote:

I dunno.

"Spotmatic" was a pretty cool name, IMHO.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The 
pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "David Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:06:03 -0700
Pentax never has been very good at naming their equipment.  This is 
after
all the company that made the "ME SUPER", a great camera with an ego
problem.

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Re: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)

[graywolf]

Yes, it sounded like something to remove spots from your trousers.

--

frank theriault wrote:

I dunno.

"Spotmatic" was a pretty cool name, IMHO.
--
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"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."

Re: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)

[mike wilson]

What's even more bizarre is that this is the second time I've
mis-spelled bizarre on the list.  Maybe it's my lack of pzzazz

m

David Madsen wrote:
> 
> The * (asterisk) on the ist and istD are similar to the star on the FA*
> lenses, which are similar to the Zeiss T* symbol.  But, you are right, it is
> still weird.
> 
> David Madsen
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.davidmadsen.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mike.wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Shel wrote:
> 
> > Well, Larry, as long as there's a Pentax somewhere in your
> > life, the rules keeper must consider that, and that, had you
> > had the Pentax with you, you'd have used it instead of the
> > asterisk brand.  That said, lemme look at the pic ...
> 
> Is it not bizzare that the only brand to have an asterisk in its lineup
> is Pentax?
> 
> mike giggler

Re: PAW - My first

[Rfsindg]

Bruce,

I think him looking at her is on the right track.
The first shot is very pretty and dreamy, but the body language is wrong.
He's looking at us and she's contemplating something.
Better is your suggestion of him looking at her looking at the bouquette.

Clearly, the first shot has something positive that the 2nd doesn't.
You just need a way around the negative aspect.

Regards,  Bob S.

Bruce Dayton writes:

> Thanks for the comments.  This type of shot is less typical of what is
> shown within the PDML and it seems that there are quite varying
> opinions - all equally valid.
> 
> The attempt was to produce a dreamy shot.  The soft focus has some
> impact as does the pose and setting.  In the first image, her not
> looking at the camera doesn't bother me, perhaps the real issue there
> is that he IS looking at the camera.  Both looking or both not.  Maybe
> if he were looking more at her it would be better.
> 
> The second shot has both with their attention together, which is what
> we are most used to.  I'm unsure myself as to which I like better.
> The couple ordered 8X10's of both, so maybe they couldn't 
> decide
> either.

Re: Photographer a Week (Forsyth)

[mike wilson]

Hi Albano,

Albano Garcia wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> Thanks for the data. With style I referred to his way
> to photograph people posing smiley and happy to do so,
> looking friendly and proud of their existences. I like
> this kind of portraits, no matter if they are more or
> less documentary than no posed ones.
> Regards

I understand.  I also like his pictures, especially those of the
children who seem to be enjoying the novel situation of being
photographed.

An aside: how likely would his pictures have been to survive if it was a
collection of CDs rather than the more obvious prints and negatives?

mike

Re: PAW

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/25/2004 1:09:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> web  site.
> So here's my Picture A Week - I promise to keep it to one a week.
>
> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
> taken @ White Sands, New Mexico.
>
> Comments - good/ bad/indifferent
>
> Kenneth Waller


That's cool. That's exactly my "kind of thing." (The kind of thing I'd like 
to be able to shoot and shoot well.)

Maybe a little stronger contrast, but I don't know what I am talking about, 
really. Ignore me.

Very nice.

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: GFM info -- I'm Coming!

[Eactivist]

>In a message dated 2/25/2004 2:05:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Terrific gnus, Marnie!!

>Woo Hoo!  This is gonna be some shindig!

>(did I just say shindig?) 

>cheers,
frank

Sure sounds like it, Bill has told me lots of PDMLers will be there.

BTW, what other female PDMLers are going??? I think I saw annsan mentioning 
she was going. Anyone else? Just us two?

(Just curious.)

Marnie aka Doe 

RE: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

[Bill Sawyer]

Mark,  I'll have mine with me Sunday, if you want to compare the two for
settings.

-Original Message-
From:   Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   February 25, 2004 11:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

I suspect that something is broken here, but I'm wondering if I just have a
setting goofed up...

The built in flash on my Mz-S just plain does not work.  I pop it up,
nothing happens - when in program mode the shutter and aperture speeds
don't change and it does not fire.  Wireless flash with the AF360FGZ also
does not owrk, but the flash unit seems to work when it is mounted on the
camera.

I fiddled around with the flash button on the camera and have it set with
just the flash indicator in the LCD (no wireless, redeye, highspeed,
etc.)  I also checked the Pentax function settings for functions 9, 10, and
11.

I'm guessing that it will need a trip to Pentax repair - any ideas about
what might disable the flash or other settings to check?

- MCC
-

Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

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RE: "late" performance

[Winston]

Not really, like I said, 77 is an outstanding example. Very sharp across
the f/stops at least from wide opened to f/11. I never used anything
smaller than f/11. But I agree that some new Nikons are best at f/5.6,
like the 17-35/2.8 and other fast zooms/primes.

I agree too that Nikon 24/2 is not a good example either, although it's
24/2.8 is very good. I also like my Nikon's 20/2.8 and 28/2.8. That's
why in the end I rarely used 24mm.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "late" performance


>From: "Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I'll second that. 43 is an excellent lens, it's just that the optimum
>performance comes 'late' at f/8-f/11. 

I get the impression that this is fairly typical for Pentax designs.
Is this because they use fairly simple and traditional optical formulas,
or perhaps because the Pentax community tends to shoot in such a way 
that such optimization makes sense (i.e. scenic and landscape)?

Most modern Nikon lenses seem to peak about f/5.6-f/8.0 which is a
better
fit for me--I rarely see f/11!   With few exceptions, most lenses are
pretty nasty both wide open and fully stopped down (due to diffraction).

I'm told that a "perfect" lens should actually produce best performance
wide open.  Some of Nikon's big teles apparently come pretty close to 
this, peaking a stop or half stop down from wide open.  This is not
to say that these lenses are close to "perfect"--I suspect it is a 
question of design optimization.  Apparently said long fast lenses
are not so good stopped down past f/5.6 or so.  Of course shooting
a 200/2.0 at f/8 is madness!

>I wished Pentax makes something wider than 31mm and longer than 100mm
>Limited lenses.

I'll second that.  While I'm not likely in the market for any FA
limited lenses (MAYBE the 77) they'd be a lot more tempting for me
if they ranged a little wider and longer.

>I'm not satisfied with the FA 24/2. Too much distortion,
>and sharpness could be better at wide f-stops. 

Interesting.  I've got a Nikkor AIS 24/2.0 that does not have a great
reputation and did not fare well in my tests.  I'd have expected the FA 
24/2 (which has an aspheric element, yes?) which is a later design
apparently aiming for a very high standard to be superior.  Fortunately,
I 
don't use a 24 much, preferring 28 and 20.  For some reason both Nikon
and Pentax seem to have done better at these focal lengths than at 24.

DJE

RE: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)

[frank theriault]

I dunno.

"Spotmatic" was a pretty cool name, IMHO.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "David Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Asterisks (WAS Re: PAW - My Grandaughter)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:06:03 -0700
Pentax never has been very good at naming their equipment.  This is after
all the company that made the "ME SUPER", a great camera with an ego
problem.
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RE: Too Much PAW

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

OMG - no wonder my poor hubby worries about me and "that bloody photography
list".  I spend half of my life convincing him that hanging out with you lot
is "safe"!  He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
meeting with a bunch of "internet stalkers", lol, his words, not mine!

You are very naughty boys, now go to the back of the classroom and behave
yourselves...

...And no fondling ass you walk there, ok?!?



tan.

-Original Message-
From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 7:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Too Much PAW


From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> On 24/2/04, TAN THE FONDLER disgorged:
>
> >hehe, the challenge is on!
> >
> >tan. (who "fondles" AS she photographs)
> >
> >ps no wise arse comments about "fondling", ok Cotty? hehe.
>
> I'll let someone else have a go :-)
>
> Cue Lasse...

Yes, yes, Cotty... You want me to have a go at fondling, yes?
I haven't been following the thread in detail, but I recall something about
tans bottom and now she says she fondles AS she photographs. Am I to step in
here?
Sure, I'll do the fondling if it helps. Just send me an airline ticket, one
tuna sandwich and a note to the captain where to take me and I'd be most
happy to oblige.

Lasse (who fondless ass she photographss)

Re: GFM info -- I'm Coming!

[frank theriault]

Terrific gnus, Marnie!!

Woo Hoo!  This is gonna be some shindig!

(did I just say shindig?) 

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GFM info -- I'm Coming!
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:18:35 EST
Okay, batten down the hatches and hide the booze*, Marnie aka Doe is coming
to GFM!
Well, I am mailing off the registration fee tomorrow by express mail, so if
it gets there in time, that is.
I'll be staying at night off mountain, because I feel I am not up to 
camping
anymore. Cold ground, stiff knees.

This should be a kick.

Marnie aka Doe  (*Actually, I don't drink. Or I don't drink very often or
very much when I do. ;-) So your booze is safe.)
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Re: Ice Race - First Photos

[frank theriault]

Ya gots ta hit us first, Keith.

BTW, maybe that's why we wear our courier bags nice and low...



cheers,
frank
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From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

They stop that sort of "fun" after they get a tranquilizer dart in their
butt. . .
keith

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RE: PAW (Robb's)

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Sorry Bill, but with respect, I have to agree with Lasse here.  I too, felt
that the shot appeared to be too dark.  It is kind of "muddy" on my screen
which is callibrated sRGB.

I have done very similar tight crops on many occasions and love to "break"
the rules, but for some reason, whether it be her expression or maybe the
lighting, I am not keen on this shot...

I think it would probably lend itself to black and white better than colour,
although the contrast is very low so not sure about that.  I just don't
really like the colours which appear very "flat" to me.

*eek, sorry*

tan.  (this is the first time I have ever posted anything negative about a
photographer's work, usually I just refrain from posting anything if I don't
love a shot, but thought I'd better get me some balls... so to speak).



-Original Message-
From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 4:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW (Robb's)


From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> My humble contribution for this week.

> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/IMGP2449ni.html
>
> My intention is to produce a new photograph each week for this
> project.
> This was shot last Sunday.
> I am sure there will be more of this model in the future.

I guess you're welcoming comments on it?

My monitor is not calibrated, why I sometimes - as when looking at this
picture - ask myself whether it renders everything a bit too dark, or not.
She, or her eye/gaze, doesn't really "come through" to me, so to speak.
You already mentioned the nose, which did disturb me a quite a bit.
There is also something about the tight crop or position of the head - or
maybe I even would have liked a further crop of the left (her right) cheek
and up to her chin, in order to pull forward her left eye a bit more, but
maybe that wouldn't be a picture you wanted.

Thanks,
Lasse

Re: "late" performance

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 Feb 2004 at 15:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Most modern Nikon lenses seem to peak about f/5.6-f/8.0 which is a better
> fit for me--I rarely see f/11!   With few exceptions, most lenses are
> pretty nasty both wide open and fully stopped down (due to diffraction).

Most modern Pentax lenses peak (relative to maximum sharpness and contrast) 
between f4 to f8.




Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

"late" performance

[edwin]

>From: "Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I'll second that. 43 is an excellent lens, it's just that the optimum
>performance comes 'late' at f/8-f/11. 

I get the impression that this is fairly typical for Pentax designs.
Is this because they use fairly simple and traditional optical formulas,
or perhaps because the Pentax community tends to shoot in such a way 
that such optimization makes sense (i.e. scenic and landscape)?

Most modern Nikon lenses seem to peak about f/5.6-f/8.0 which is a better
fit for me--I rarely see f/11!   With few exceptions, most lenses are
pretty nasty both wide open and fully stopped down (due to diffraction).

I'm told that a "perfect" lens should actually produce best performance
wide open.  Some of Nikon's big teles apparently come pretty close to 
this, peaking a stop or half stop down from wide open.  This is not
to say that these lenses are close to "perfect"--I suspect it is a 
question of design optimization.  Apparently said long fast lenses
are not so good stopped down past f/5.6 or so.  Of course shooting
a 200/2.0 at f/8 is madness!

>I wished Pentax makes something wider than 31mm and longer than 100mm
>Limited lenses.

I'll second that.  While I'm not likely in the market for any FA
limited lenses (MAYBE the 77) they'd be a lot more tempting for me
if they ranged a little wider and longer.

>I'm not satisfied with the FA 24/2. Too much distortion,
>and sharpness could be better at wide f-stops. 

Interesting.  I've got a Nikkor AIS 24/2.0 that does not have a great
reputation and did not fare well in my tests.  I'd have expected the FA 
24/2 (which has an aspheric element, yes?) which is a later design
apparently aiming for a very high standard to be superior.  Fortunately, I 
don't use a 24 much, preferring 28 and 20.  For some reason both Nikon
and Pentax seem to have done better at these focal lengths than at 24.

DJE

Re: I love my Heaven77

[Mark Roberts]

"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 25 Feb 2004 at 22:18, Winston wrote:
>
>> I
>> wished Pentax makes something wider than 31mm and longer than 100mm
>> Limited lenses. I'm not satisfied with the FA 24/2. Too much distortion,
>> and sharpness could be better at wide f-stops. 
>
>Same here, pity the 14/2.8 was a DA not a LTD :-(

True. But considering what the 15/3.5 cost, imagine the price of a
14/2.8 LIMITED! 

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: I love my Heaven77

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 Feb 2004 at 22:18, Winston wrote:

> I
> wished Pentax makes something wider than 31mm and longer than 100mm
> Limited lenses. I'm not satisfied with the FA 24/2. Too much distortion,
> and sharpness could be better at wide f-stops. 

Same here, pity the 14/2.8 was a DA not a LTD :-(


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: FS: SMC-M 100mm f/2.8

[Albano Garcia]

I jutst wanted to say that I own this lens and it's a
GREAT performer, fast and compact, sharp with good
bokeh. 
So, if you need a short tele... BUY IT NOW!
Regards

Albano


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> I'll post this again Friday, but here's an early
> notice:
> 
> For sale: Pentax SMC-M 100mm f/2.8 lens. EX
> condition with virtually 
> no body wear. Glass is clean with a very minor
> amount of dust specks 
> visible between elements. Includes original Pentax
> front and rear 
> caps. Diaphragm blades clean and snappy; focusing
> smooth and M-series 
> buttery firm.
> 
> $85. Free shipping in the continental U.S.
> 
> Joe
> -- 
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