Re: Darkroom or Digital for beginners
Digital photography can provide instant gratification. One of the most often heard comments here and in other places is that people like the idea of seeing their photos immediately. They can edit on the LCD display immediately after the photo is taken. Moving to the "darkroom" side of the equation, a great many people do little or no editing of their photos, small tweaks at most, such as cropping, a little color correction, and that's about it. Instant! More advanced folks use more features in their editing software, but still don't go very far into it. And a skilled PS user can get a good result in less time than it'll take to set up the darkroom for a printing session and make some prints. Yeah, some folks spend a long time on their photo work, but I'll bet that, had they used a darkroom previously, they spent a long time there, too, in order to get a print just right. And regardless of what work one does with editing software, the pic can be viewed on the screen and printed in less than five minutes from the time the exposure is made. And that includes boot up time Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/28/2004 11:47:11 PM > Subject: Re: Darkroom or Digital for beginners > > In a message dated 5/26/2004 10:13:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > We live in a society fuelled by instant gratification and disposable > everything. We need children today who will want to know how things work. > Our throw away culture is nothing to be proud of. > > I'm not having a 'go' Cotty, it really is for everyone's benefit, especially > today's youngsters :-) > > Malcolm > --- > Well, I am late posting to this thread. > > And I have no views either way about whether to darkroom or not to darkroom. > > But I beg to differ that the digital darkroom approach provides INSTANT > gratification. Not if you really tweak stuff and are a perfectionist. That can take > hours and hours, in fact. > > Marnie aka Doe
Re: Darkroom or Digital for beginners
In a message dated 5/26/2004 10:13:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We live in a society fuelled by instant gratification and disposable everything. We need children today who will want to know how things work. Our throw away culture is nothing to be proud of. I'm not having a 'go' Cotty, it really is for everyone's benefit, especially today's youngsters :-) Malcolm --- Well, I am late posting to this thread. And I have no views either way about whether to darkroom or not to darkroom. But I beg to differ that the digital darkroom approach provides INSTANT gratification. Not if you really tweak stuff and are a perfectionist. That can take hours and hours, in fact. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PAW: Stalking the Beast
In a message dated 5/26/2004 3:42:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: PAW: Stalking the Beast >Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:20:14 -0400 > >Speaking of the Pentax 50's, the following wild beast > >http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/ > >was captured without the aid of AF or high FPS with an A 50 1.7 at >1/125 and f4 (*istD). He turned on me but I fought him off with my >monopod. - Hehe. Totally kewl. Nice color contrast and great composition. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Street Portraiture
In a message dated 5/28/2004 7:05:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once in awhile I'll stop someone on the street and ask them if I can shoot a portrait there on the spot. I found this lady earlier today, knocked off two frames of her in front of a blue wall, PhotoShoped her around a bit, and here she is: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397401&size=lg Paul -- Wow! Really nice, Paul. What great color. Marnie aka Doe Wonder how much you had to Photoshop.
Re: Outside the Shattuck Theater in Berkeley
In a message dated 5/27/2004 10:00:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had to meet someone in downtown Berkeley yesterday afternoon. While waiting for her I caught these two people sitting and talking outside the Shattuck Theater (where I later saw Supersize Me). http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/outside.html Shel Belinkoff --- I don't know, shel, you really caught these people with unpleasant expressions. :-) Especially in the lower pic. Not sure what to make of that. Or what my reaction is to that. Was that deliberate? (I haven't read the other PDML comments yet.) Marnie aka Doe
Re: Street Portraiture
Beautiful lady. However, what did she look like before you manipulated her image? Jim A. > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:16:29 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Street Portraiture > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:34:17 -0400 > > Once in awhile I'll stop someone on the street and ask them if I can > shoot a portrait there on the spot. I found this lady earlier today, > knocked off two frames of her in front of a blue wall, PhotoShoped her > around a bit, and here she is: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397401&size=lg > Paul >
Short Optio S4 review
Hey Gang, A few weeks ago, my brother called me up asking for a recommendation on a digital camera to use for snapshots and for shooting stuff to sell on ebay. He insisted that it be extremely small. How small? He felt his Canon A40 was too big. So naturally, I turned him onto the Optio S4 and he excitedly bought it. He agreed to lend it to me for a couple of weeks. I used it today while going on a 10K AVA walk in downtown San Antonio. Here are some of the photos. Nothing to swoon over, I have to shoot quick or I'll be left behind. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=401012 Some impressions: 1) There isn't much control one can exact over this camera in terms of exposure - just Program AE with some exposure compensation. Man did I miss having aperture priority. Oddly enough, it gives you the exposure data. Why? I dunno. Sure there's exposure compensation but quite frankly, I think Pentax was out to taunt the users of this camera . 2) Autofocus is pretty quick but can be hit or miss. I had several shots that were discarded because they were soft. 3) I was not very pleased with the lens. There's quite a bit of distortion at the wide end. Flare control seems pretty poor and there was noticeable purple fringing from time to time. In macro mode, the corner can be really soft. It was really noticeable in this photo: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397442&size=lg The corners seem to have...distortion and blur at the same time. Not too pleasing, especially when I printed it. 4) It's extremely difficult to get shallow depth of field. 5) Shot to shot time is pretty respectable and it turns on and off pretty quick. 6) The LCD monitor was not very easy to read in daylight. 7) The On/Off button is way too close to the shutter release. Every now and then, I found myself turning it off instead of shooting. 8) The four way control button is not very easy to use. 9) Overall, exposure was pretty good. 10) Women love this camera. They ooh and ahh at the very sight of it . I short, it's a neat little camera to use for vacation snaps. It's incredibly portable. Battery life is decent. It operates quickly and quietly. For more serious photographic ventures, this one's best left at home. Mark
Re: PAW: Street Portraiture
We disagree on what constitutes a portrait, as I said in my earlier post. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/28/2004 9:35:50 PM > Subject: Re: PAW: Street Portraiture > > > On May 28, 2004, at 9:48 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Hi Paul ... > > > > That's very nice, but upon seeing the photo I was quite disappointed. > > It > > looks like it could have been done in a studio. > > That's exactly the idea. It does look like it could have been done in a > studio. But it was done on a street corner with just the camera. Sure, > I could have done a rugged street pic. But that's not a portrait. That > would have been a snapshot. A portrait requires a bit more work. > Paul
Re: PAW: Street Portraiture
She was flattered. She had seen my camera and didn't turn away, so it was obviously a good opportunity to request a shot. She posed quite enthusiastically. Paul On May 28, 2004, at 10:53 PM, graywolf wrote: Nice, Paul. That takes guts to do. Though thinking back to when I did things like that, they usually are more flattered than put out. -- Paul Stenquist wrote: Once in awhile I'll stop someone on the street and ask them if I can shoot a portrait there on the spot. I found this lady earlier today, knocked off two frames of her in front of a blue wall, PhotoShoped her around a bit, and here she is: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397401&size=lg Paul -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Street Portraiture
Her eyes drew me in. But I did enhance them a bit in PS. (See above.) However, the color was there, and the wall was a good match. Paul On May 28, 2004, at 10:11 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Once in awhile I'll stop someone on the street and ask them if I can shoot a portrait there on the spot. I found this lady earlier today, knocked off two frames of her in front of a blue wall, PhotoShoped her around a bit, and here she is: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397401&size=lg What fantastic eyes she has. I may need to move where you are. You'd die of hunger if you waited for a shot on the street like that over my way. Malcolm
Re: PAW: Street Portraiture
On May 28, 2004, at 9:48 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul ... That's very nice, but upon seeing the photo I was quite disappointed. It looks like it could have been done in a studio. That's exactly the idea. It does look like it could have been done in a studio. But it was done on a street corner with just the camera. Sure, I could have done a rugged street pic. But that's not a portrait. That would have been a snapshot. A portrait requires a bit more work. Paul
Re: PAW: Street Portraiture
Hi Bruce, Thanks. She had some complexion problems, so I did some work with the clone tool. Then, I selected her eyes, pumped up the blue and the saturation. Next, a second layer and a heavy gaussian blur at 50% opacity. Finally, I erased her eyes and lips from the second layer. Paul On May 28, 2004, at 9:58 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Paul, I like the shot. It looks very natural and she seems quite comfortable. The lighting does very well for her eyes as well. When you say "photoshopped" - what all did you do? Bruce Friday, May 28, 2004, 4:44:49 PM, you wrote: PS> Once in awhile I'll stop someone on the street and ask them if I can PS> shoot a portrait there on the spot. I found this lady earlier today, PS> knocked off two frames of her in front of a blue wall, PhotoShoped her PS> around a bit, and here she is: PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397401&size=lg PS> Paul
Re: GFM weather
Mark Roberts wrote: > There's an excellent hiking/outdoors shop called Footsloggers near GFM. > Their official t-shirt has the motto -- "Hike naked, it puts color in your cheeks". Surely that can't be good for their "bottom line" !8^D Bill
Re: Vivitar's KA/R mount...
Had trouble with my Vivtar 80-180 Flat Field zoom on the LX and the *ist D. I had to file down the flange on it to a more appropriate size. After that, it worked just fine on both cameras. IL Bill On May 28, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Timothy Sherburne wrote: Hello all.. I need to draw on your collective wisdom: Are there any Pentax K-mount bodies that will not accept a Vivitar KA/R lens? The specific lens in question is Vivitar's Series 1 19-35/3.5-4.5 zoom. Thanks! Tim
FA 77 Limited
This focal length didn't interest me much in 35 mm. format, but on the *ist D it is a different matter -- an angle of view equivalent to about 117 mm. in 35 mm. format, and f1.8 to boot. I can see a use for that. I use my fast primes mainly in low light, so I need them to be good wide open and stopped down a little. Can owners of this lens let me know how it performs at wide apertures? Has anyone who has used it on the *ist D noticed any chromatic aberration problem? Bon weekend, everyone (as they say in Mali). Thanks, Joe
Street Portraiture
Once in awhile I'll stop someone on the street and ask them if I can shoot a portrait there on the spot. I found this lady earlier today, knocked off two frames of her in front of a blue wall, PhotoShoped her around a bit, and here she is: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397401&size=lg Paul
Re: June PUG comments
Hey Steve, Thanks for the plug! -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, May 28, 2004, 12:29:09 PM, you wrote: SJ> Hmmm, most of this month's submissions are far too good to be clichés in SJ> my opinion :-) SJ> A few that caught my eye: SJ> Jaume Lahuerta, "Big Ben" - ok, so maybe there *are* no original shots SJ> of the Houses of Parliament, but that's a damn good try :-) SJ> Frank Theriault, "Your Humble Servant" - nice cliché, and you've SJ> thoughtfully obscured your phiz behind a dirty great lens... ;-) SJ> Bruce Dayton, "Camping" - possibly my favourite this month. SJ> Ray Ford, "Sunset at Sagamore Bridge" - wins the "best cliché" award SJ> imo, and is a nice sunset to boot. SJ> Cotty, "Kept" - is that a feather in your cap? :-) SJ> S
RE: Interesting article about Pentax in Australia
Is there somekind of bond between the two? In Denmark Pentax and Sigma are imported by the same company: Fovitech. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 28. maj 2004 04:31 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Interesting article about Pentax in Australia Or simply because Sigma is more famous than Pentax. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan >Because there is a higher profit margin on Sigma lenses? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: Good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London?
Bob W wrote: > there is nobody who specialises in Pentax, although they all > tend to have a few pieces. Your best bet is to visit them all > in the West End one day to see if they've got anything in. > > I regret to say that I've done it so often that I have a route: > > Jessops, Tottenham Ct. Rd. - gone downhill a lot > > Kingsley, TCR > > West End Cameras, TCR > > Jessops, New Oxford St. - usually a good bet > > Jacobs, ditto > > Jessops Classic, Pied Bull Yard > > the Japanese place on Museum St. (can't remember the name, > but very good quality, and rarely Pentax) > > one opposite Jessops Classic > > R G Lewis, Southampton Row > > there's a little shop by the bus stop on New Oxford St. opp. > Museum St. that often has a lot of stuff > > London Camera Centre, the Strand > > Jessops, the Strand - gone downhill a lot > > Cameraworld, Wells St. > > Nicholas, near Mornington Crescent, often has some good > stuff, but typically over-priced Now that looks like an entertaining day out. I pretty much went off Jessops for their negative view of Pentax film cameras, but I'd be happy to buy one from them if they kept the snide comments behind the counter. Cameraworld are fine. The others I either haven't seen at all or been too in years. The last shop on your list has a most amusing price structure. I generally hate shopping or window shopping - even for cameras - but this looks like fun. Malcolm
RE: Only -PUG June is available on my website
Hi Adelheid, > I am afraid this is Jostein's part. > The autopug is his baby. > If you are in doubt please send the submission as mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sensible Subject. > Otherwise it gets caught in my Spamfilter. > > Then I'll check whether it made it or not and submit it myself. > It might have something to do with time outs. > Or you tried to submit a picture which is too big. This won't > be accepted and if it is really big the site times out. > I got one pic with 1 MB once and this definitely kills the page. I attempted to send a submission this month, but I suspect the problem is at my end rather than yours. I will put up a PAW version instead of this over the weekend. The PUG is a fantastic resource and thanks to both yourself and Jostein for providing this. Malcolm
Re: Need help w/portrait
jtainter wrote: > > For a light afternoon moment, here's her reaction to my second take: > > "That's a great picture! I feel like I was photographed by that Scuvolli guy. Or > is it Scuvollo? > Thanks so much!" > Joe Ok which is it she thinks it is great or she thinks it is Scavullo??? annsan
Re: Good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London?
I visited eight of the shops on Bob W.'s list last month, and want to say the service from the folks downstairs at Jessops (New Oxford) was excellent. I'd like to add one shop to Bob's list: Vintage Cameras (at Kirks Cameras) http://www.vintagecameras.co.uk/. It is located in Sydenham, which is about 20min south of Tower Bridge Station on the light rail system. Vintage has a good selection of Pentax, but my target was 120 roll film folders; I bought a Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 521 in mint condition - very nice. You might also want to visit Calumet (mostly medium and large format), just north & west of Euston Station; they're closed on Saturday. Jim www.jcolwell.ca
Re: FS Friday: K-series SMC 50 f/1.4 - near mint
drool!! --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm selling my near-prefect-condition SMC 50/1.4 (it > took me months of > eBay scouring to find one in this condition). $75.00 > + shipping. It's > about as close to perfect condition as you're ever > likely to find. > Photos at > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014a.jpg > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014b.jpg > > Please give this lens a good home! > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
Re: Speaking of music....GFM
I mean something that plays normal cassettes - most boom boxes still have one side for tape one for cd. Not as old as um WE are :) ann Bill Owens wrote: > > Not if you what you mean "old fashioned" is what I think you mean. > > Bill > > - Original Message - > From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: Speaking of musicGFM > > > Bill Owens wrote: > > > > > > I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, > Paul > > > and Mary amongst others. > > > > > > Bill > > > > Bill, do you have an actual old fashioned cassette > > player??? > > > > ann > >
PAW: Street Portraiture
Once in awhile I'll stop someone on the street and ask them if I can shoot a portrait there on the spot. I found this lady earlier today, knocked off two frames of her in front of a blue wall, PhotoShoped her around a bit, and here she is: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2397401&size=lg Paul
Re: Extension tubes for K1000
Scott Cassel posted: > If I got a set of screw mount auto extension tubes, would that work with the K1000 and the screw mount Takumars if I just put the K Mount Adaptor on the part of the tubes that connect to the camera? Yes, you can -- I have done exactly this with my father's extension tubes and screw-mount lens, and the K1000 I had at the time. > Lastly, what about using my screw mount Takumar's with a reverser ring? If the ring was a screw mount, would I be able to use the K mount adaptor on it? And vice versa - if the reverser fitted the K mount, could I use the K mount adaptor on the opposite end to connect the screw mount adaptors? I once found a screwmount reverser ring going really cheap, and I have used that with the K mount adapter also. However, my father has since purchased a K1000 and now has my screwmount-to-K adapter, so it's been a while ... (and I can no longer reverse my lenses). Hope this helps. ERN
GFM (sorry, you stay at homes) couple questions
Do any of you like to use, want to use a sunscreen and citronella thing called BUZZ OFF? I bought some and it made me gag one I put more than a tiny bit on my hand... I have a full tube of it, and if it suits anyone I'll bring it along... ann
Re: GFM weather
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So if I am gathering correctly, it will be nice during the day but maybe I >need a warm jacket at night? > >Drat, all the stores have summer wear right now. Maybe I need to visit a >sports shop. (I get by with weak little not-too-warm jackets in CA.) There's an excellent hiking/outdoors shop called Footsloggers near GFM. Actually, they have two locations, one in Blowing Rock and one in Banner Elk. Both within easy driving distance of the mountain. Their official t-shirt has the motto "Hike naked, it puts color in your cheeks". -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Speaking of music....GFM
"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. I'm bringing my acoustic guitar. I believe Doug Brewer and TV are also bringing guitars. Anyone who shows up with an accordion will be ejected ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: PAW: Woody Guthrie
-Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:32 AM frank theriault wrote: > > And, to find that you mention me in the same sentence as him is an > (undeserved) honour. Funny, but my roomate made an offhand comment > about me being like the "Miles Davis of photographers" - again > undeserved - but I knew what she meant. I've thought that what I do > is sort of like jazz - improvising and interpreting, but I like the > Woody Guthrie thought about as much, because of the human element of it. > > Anyway, thanks. And, as for mentioning me in the same breath as Shel, > well, I'll talk to you later about ~that~ one! > Don't be so modest Frank. Everyone on this list likes your work. I just wish I could go to GFM to see some of it in person, and the person behind it. :) rg Frank takes photos? I really should pay attention to this list :-) I enjoy his photos too. But I am really drawn to the personna. Likewise all the other PDMLers I hope to see at GFMtn. I just hope people remember who I am, César Panama City, Florida P.S. Pity I do not have time to comment on all the photos... Even this weekend will leave me no time to myself...
RE: Speaking of music....GFM
-Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:05 PM Bill Owens wrote: > > I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul > and Mary amongst others. > > Bill Bill, do you have an actual old fashioned cassette player??? ann I hope so for Frank's sake. The Belizean music I have is on cassette. Cesar Panama City, Florida
RE: Will I ever use my MX again?
Talking to the sales clerk, the lower model digital SLR cameras from Nikon and Canon stay around a little bit. But the highest models of both and Pentax are gone as soon as they hit the shelves. Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:32 AM And that really is the problem. They sell so fast almost no one has a demo machine. Because there is none on the shelves people come to the erroneous conclusion that the *istD is not selling well. As you know, Cesar, our area Pentax Rep claims they still have thousands of units on back order. -- Cesar Matamoros II wrote: > I was at my photo store this afternoon dropping off some MF film when the > sales clerk asked me if I had my *ist D with me. It was draped over my > shoulder, with my Optio S in the fanny pack. > > There was an customer interested in digital with some Pentax lenses. I > handed my camera to him. The store did not have an *ist D in stock - as > soon as they come in, they are gone. > > The customer was impressed with the size and liked being able to use his > lenses on them. He was a little interested in being able to use non-A and > M42 lenses on it. > -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: GFM weather
That sounds rather cold to me considering I am viewing highs of 90º. It is already in the upper 70s by the time I get to work :-) I get to work rather early, César Panama City, Florida P.S. Temp - 86º, bright sunshine, being off the water with the windows open no need for air conditioning. Time to hang out in the hammock on the front porch :-) -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:43 PM Long range for next weekend from weather.com calls for highs in the low 70's and lows in the mid 50's. Bill - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:35 PM > So if I am gathering correctly, it will be nice during the day but maybe I > need a warm jacket at night? > > Drat, all the stores have summer wear right now. Maybe I need to visit a > sports shop. (I get by with weak little not-too-warm jackets in CA.) > > Marnie aka Doe
RE: Will I ever use my MX again?
Don't forget that I ususally bring my arsenal of screwmount lenses :-) Along with SP, SV, S1a, and S3, César Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:34 AM Hey Steve, I have a few screw mount lenses that I'll try to remember to bring if you want some extras. Bill - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:24 AM > I feel your pain. Since I only shoot color, I find that the whole > digital approach is a better fit for me. Digital better fits my > strengths and weaknesses, and because of that I get better photos using > my *istD than my MZ-S. Film has advantages, but I don't do the kind of > photography that takes advantage of them. > > Actually, part of me is tempted to take my SP500 to G.M. and use that > for the photo contest, just for old times sake. I'd be restricted to a > 55 mm lens, but hey, that's part of the fun. > > > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
FW: Product update from bhphotovideo.com
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Re: Good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London?
Cheers, bob - all within walking distance from my Hotel. Excellent! A. On 28 May 2004, at 22:33, Bob W wrote: Hi, Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:42:29 PM, Antonio wrote: Hi, Can anyone recommend a good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London? Is there anyone who specialises in SMCP (K) primes? there is nobody who specialises in Pentax, although they all tend to have a few pieces. Your best bet is to visit them all in the West End one day to see if they've got anything in. I regret to say that I've done it so often that I have a route: Jessops, Tottenham Ct. Rd. - gone downhill a lot Kingsley, TCR West End Cameras, TCR Jessops, New Oxford St. - usually a good bet Jacobs, ditto Jessops Classic, Pied Bull Yard the Japanese place on Museum St. (can't remember the name, but very good quality, and rarely Pentax) one opposite Jessops Classic R G Lewis, Southampton Row there's a little shop by the bus stop on New Oxford St. opp. Museum St. that often has a lot of stuff London Camera Centre, the Strand Jessops, the Strand - gone downhill a lot Cameraworld, Wells St. Nicholas, near Mornington Crescent, often has some good stuff, but typically over-priced -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Scene from a Mall
Why, thank you, Lon. You flatter me. Thanks to everyone else who commented on this one, as well. I won't waste the bandwidth to name each of you. I almost didn't print it up. It came from my first roll after getting the Leica CL back from the shop, and I really didn't feel particularly inspired that day for some reason. Things weren't clicking, and I never got on that "roll" that sometimes happens when you get the flow going. On the whole, that roll was pretty bad. There were a bunch of shots similar to that one, but after looking at the contacts a few times, that one seemed to emerge from the dreck. So I blew it up, and it seemed to work, both for me, and those who've seen it. I've gotta go back and look at some old negs, to see what gems (if any) may be lurking in the darkness. Anyway, I'm away for the weekend right now, back Sunday night, then Tuesday off to GFM, so I'm not likely to be around much (the place I'm going to this weekend has a really slow computer, so I may be able to lurk a bit). Later, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Frank Favorite so Far. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: OT - Music on the Road
So far, I've found a good quality set of headphones more satisfactory than speakers suitable for travel. Friend has devise that allows use of more than one set of headsets while maintaining impedance match for player -- forget the brand. Just my experience. In my opinion, IPOD and the like are great travel/walking/outdoor event companions. Otis Wright Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Gang Call me slow, but I just discovered how easy it is to copy CD's to the hard drive using the Win Media Player. It's pretty much all automatic, and it astounds me how much info is on the disk. This opens the door to copying music to some sort of portable device for use in the car and while travelling. What sorts of devices, apart from an iPod, can be used for this purpose? Does MP3 or MP4 (that's the format, right?) sound pretty good compared to a home system or a good sound system on the computer? What do you do for speakers on the road? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Shel Belinkoff
Re: Good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London?
I'll keep a copy of that for the next time we visit the UK. thanks, keith whaley P.S. what have you about London Pubs? Bob W wrote: Hi, Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:42:29 PM, Antonio wrote: Hi, Can anyone recommend a good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London? Is there anyone who specialises in SMCP (K) primes? there is nobody who specialises in Pentax, although they all tend to have a few pieces. Your best bet is to visit them all in the West End one day to see if they've got anything in. I regret to say that I've done it so often that I have a route: Jessops, Tottenham Ct. Rd. - gone downhill a lot Kingsley, TCR West End Cameras, TCR Jessops, New Oxford St. - usually a good bet Jacobs, ditto Jessops Classic, Pied Bull Yard the Japanese place on Museum St. (can't remember the name, but very good quality, and rarely Pentax) one opposite Jessops Classic R G Lewis, Southampton Row there's a little shop by the bus stop on New Oxford St. opp. Museum St. that often has a lot of stuff London Camera Centre, the Strand Jessops, the Strand - gone downhill a lot Cameraworld, Wells St. Nicholas, near Mornington Crescent, often has some good stuff, but typically over-priced
RE: Need help w/portrait
Run it through "NeatImage" http://www.neatimage.com Jens mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: jtainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. maj 2004 19:26 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Need help w/portrait Well, its not really a portrait. A woman in our lab received an award today, so I recorded the presentation with the *ist D and DA 16-45. The rtf flash was all I had available. Now she is afraid that her skin looks blotchy in the photo. (Her skin is actually quite smooth, but you know how it is.) I was going to print an enlargement for her. Is there anything I can do in Photoshop to make her think her skin looks as smooth as it actually is? Help me out here, gang. Darn these sharp Pentax lenses. Thanks, Joe
Re: Good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London?
Hi, Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:42:29 PM, Antonio wrote: > Hi, > Can anyone recommend a good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London? Is there > anyone who specialises in SMCP (K) primes? there is nobody who specialises in Pentax, although they all tend to have a few pieces. Your best bet is to visit them all in the West End one day to see if they've got anything in. I regret to say that I've done it so often that I have a route: Jessops, Tottenham Ct. Rd. - gone downhill a lot Kingsley, TCR West End Cameras, TCR Jessops, New Oxford St. - usually a good bet Jacobs, ditto Jessops Classic, Pied Bull Yard the Japanese place on Museum St. (can't remember the name, but very good quality, and rarely Pentax) one opposite Jessops Classic R G Lewis, Southampton Row there's a little shop by the bus stop on New Oxford St. opp. Museum St. that often has a lot of stuff London Camera Centre, the Strand Jessops, the Strand - gone downhill a lot Cameraworld, Wells St. Nicholas, near Mornington Crescent, often has some good stuff, but typically over-priced -- Cheers, Bob
Extension tubes for K1000
This is likely a rookie question, but...I'm looking to get a set of extension tubes for my recently purchased K1000, but am somewhat unsure what to get because some of the lenses I also bought are SMC Takumar screw mounts...and I also have the k mount SMC-A 50mm f/2 lens that came with the camera. If I got a set of screw mount auto extension tubes, would that work with the K1000 and the screw mount Takumars if I just put the K Mount Adaptor on the part of the tubes that connect to the camera? Inversely, it seems that I would not be able to use the screw mount auto ext. tubes with the K mount lens and K mount body, unless I used two adaptors, which seems a bit much. I'd like to get a set of K mount ext tubes, but they seem to be a bit harder than the screw mounts to find at the moment (at least on ebay). If I did, I assume I could use my screw mount Takumar's with them if I put the K mount adaptor on the lens and connected that to the extension tube - right? Lastly, what about using my screw mount Takumar's with a reverser ring? If the ring was a screw mount, would I be able to use the K mount adaptor on it? And vice versa - if the reverser fitted the K mount, could I use the K mount adaptor on the opposite end to connect the screw mount adaptors? Thanks in advance for your help, and I hope that all makes some sense! Scott
Good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London?
Hi, Can anyone recommend a good 2nd Hand Pentax dealer in London? Is there anyone who specialises in SMCP (K) primes? Thanks. Antonio
RE: Only -PUG June is available on my website
I am afraid this is Jostein's part. The autopug is his baby. If you are in doubt please send the submission as mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sensible Subject. Otherwise it gets caught in my Spamfilter. Then I'll check whether it made it or not and submit it myself. It might have something to do with time outs. Or you tried to submit a picture which is too big. This won't be accepted and if it is really big the site times out. I got one pic with 1 MB once and this definitely kills the page. Cheers Adelheid -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 28. Mai 2004 19:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Only -PUG June is available on my website Adelheid, I hope the submission process gets better soon. This is the 2nd or third month that I have worked to prepare and submit something only to find nothing in the PUG. It's frustrating. The AutoPUG submission page errored off as the last response I got after pressing SUBMIT. Does this mean it went thru and then errored or that it didn't go thru at all? (most likely) I just couldn't tell and without a confirmation, I didn't know. Regards, Bob S. Adelheid writes: > Hi folks, > > The June PUG is ready on my website. > > This means: > > Some links on this page are NOT!!! working. > But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the > pictures of June. > > I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month and last > month is available! No archives as such. > > So now the issue of the URL > It will change each month at present it is: > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun > > I hope this helps a little. > Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on > the komkon server. > > Cheers > Adelheid
Re: Speaking of music....GFM
Not if you what you mean "old fashioned" is what I think you mean. Bill - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Speaking of musicGFM > Bill Owens wrote: > > > > I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul > > and Mary amongst others. > > > > Bill > > Bill, do you have an actual old fashioned cassette > player??? > > ann >
June PUG comments
Hmmm, most of this month's submissions are far too good to be clichés in my opinion :-) A few that caught my eye: Jaume Lahuerta, "Big Ben" - ok, so maybe there *are* no original shots of the Houses of Parliament, but that's a damn good try :-) Frank Theriault, "Your Humble Servant" - nice cliché, and you've thoughtfully obscured your phiz behind a dirty great lens... ;-) Bruce Dayton, "Camping" - possibly my favourite this month. Ray Ford, "Sunset at Sagamore Bridge" - wins the "best cliché" award imo, and is a nice sunset to boot. Cotty, "Kept" - is that a feather in your cap? :-) S
Re: Speaking of music....GFM
Bill Owens wrote: > > I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul > and Mary amongst others. > > Bill Bill, do you have an actual old fashioned cassette player??? ann
p.s. regarding WORD WARS and my pix
oh - two of my stills are in the press kit... the one in the park (shot with a borrowed camera and crappy film) and the one of Matt Graham are available for download. http://www.7thart.com/wordwars/press.htm annsan
Re: Vivitar's KA/R mount...
Thanks, Mike. This lens works great (unmodified) on my ZX-M and ME Super, but not so well on a ZX-L owned by a eBay buyer. In the several years I've owned the lens, I haven't run into either problem you describe. Anyone interested in buying this lens? It's in great shape! Let me know off-line. Thanks, Tim On 5/28/04 10:56, mike wilson wrote: > Hi, > > Timothy Sherburne wrote: >> Hello all.. >> >> I need to draw on your collective wisdom: Are there any Pentax K-mount >> bodies that will not accept a Vivitar KA/R lens? The specific lens in >> question is Vivitar's Series 1 19-35/3.5-4.5 zoom. > > They will all accept it - after you've modified the back of the lens 8-) > > Otherwise, it's not a good idea to try to mount it on _any_ Pentax. If > I remember correctly, there are _two_ compatibility problems. One is to > do with the tongue of metal that protects a lever and the other is to do > with the lens locking tab. Of possible outcomes, the first will cause > damage if the camera is operated with the lens mounted, the second will > cause the lens to be unremoveable from the body. That's the limit of my > knowledge, I'm afraid. > > mike > > >
[Fwd: "Word Wars" in NYC (real theatrical run!)]
On the web site I found another of my photos used - the one of Matt Graham is mine, the other three on that page are not. Matt is sitting in front of my Scrabble board at the NY club. Joel tells me one of the shots of mine from Washington Square park is there, too, but I couldnt' get the trailer to play and didn't see it elsewhere -- any you guys got fancy stuff, have a look??? I _may_ have another film credit coming up and a bit of money from it... Don't want to jinx it by telling all now -- Things are starting to turn around for me suddenly -- precipitated in part by the generosity of a particular PDML'er. It was magical. annsan Original Message Subject: "Word Wars" in NYC (real theatrical run!) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:24:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Eric Chaikin's feature length documentary film "Word Wars", featuring Joe Edley, Matt Graham, Marlon Hill and myself, (not to mention quite a few of you on this mailing list), will get its official premiere on Friday, June 11 at the Cinema Village theater in Manhattan. The distributor, Seventh Art Releasing, has put up a very nice looking web site for it, http://www.7thart.com/wordwars/ and if you click "Find a Screening" at the top of the page, you'll find the dates and a link to the theater. Times are not yet published, but the theater can be called for them at 212-924-3363, and the location is 12th St., betw 5th Ave and University Pl. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll anagram, and you'll learn more about your favorite Scrabble experts than you may have wanted to know, if you haven't already read it in Stefan Fatsis' "Word Freak.". And best of all, you'll enjoy the health benefits of massive doses of massively overpriced popcorn and air conditioning. Warning: this film contains profane language, mild drug use, and some funny music -- parental guidance, if not discretion, strongly suggested. But please do tell your adult friends and neighbors. Joel Sherman
Re: Is it Real or is it PhotoShop?
Friday, May 28, 2004, 12:08:40 PM, Alan wrote: AC> I really don't think anyone really cares what the original scene looked AC> like. Every photo we have seen in magazines have been heavily "enchanced" to AC> capture our attention. Just look at those super saturated National AC> Geographic photos! Btw, Auto Contrast seldom works for me. It has the AC> tendency to overdo. Hi Alan, when you get into the Levels or Curves window, press the Options button to customise the way AutoLevels and AutoColour and AutoContrast work. I suggest replacing the 0.5% clipping values with something much smaller, 0.2% for really low contrast images or 0.1% (or less) for images where you get heavy clipping of shadows/highlights using the Auto command.This applies to Photoshop and almost all other programs using autolevels/... If I have time, I may get into this discussion of "reality". Perhaps later :) But some manipulation is inherent in the medium of photography, which is not real. It's not capturing whole reality (like some painters were afraid first time photography came out), it's about capturing its small slice. Good art uses any medium to its advantage, so photography benefits from reductionary approach, IMO. Just capturing a vista as the eye saw it is impossible (because eye sees in many many small movements, while it sees the photograph printed as a whole), and if anybody tried that (all the superlarge posters of waterfalls), it usually accounted to no art and no reality as well! Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: FS Friday: K-series SMC 50 f/1.4 - near mint
Hi, Mark, I'm replying to the list because my e-mails to you got bounced back (I tried sending from two different accounts). I did send an e-mail to your [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Anyway, ... Is the 50/1,.4 still available? The K2 keeps nagging, "Can we buy it? Can we buy it?" I don't know why it doesn't appreciate the nice M series 50/1.4 I gave it -- it just keeps muttering something about "... not authentic to the original K series bodies." Thanks, Joe I'm selling my near-prefect-condition SMC 50/1.4 (it took me months of eBay scouring to find one in this condition). $75.00 + shipping. It's about as close to perfect condition as you're ever likely to find. Photos at http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014a.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014b.jpg Please give this lens a good home! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
Re: Speaking of music....GFM
Hi, >> >> Don't you *dare* leave Petula Clark @ home! >> > I've an "oldies" CD that has several of her numbers on it. Hmm. It'll be like Old Compton Street up there. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Vivitar's KA/R mount...
Hi, Timothy Sherburne wrote: Hello all.. I need to draw on your collective wisdom: Are there any Pentax K-mount bodies that will not accept a Vivitar KA/R lens? The specific lens in question is Vivitar's Series 1 19-35/3.5-4.5 zoom. They will all accept it - after you've modified the back of the lens 8-) Otherwise, it's not a good idea to try to mount it on _any_ Pentax. If I remember correctly, there are _two_ compatibility problems. One is to do with the tongue of metal that protects a lever and the other is to do with the lens locking tab. Of possible outcomes, the first will cause damage if the camera is operated with the lens mounted, the second will cause the lens to be unremoveable from the body. That's the limit of my knowledge, I'm afraid. mike
Re: Only -PUG June is available on my website
Adelheid, I hope the submission process gets better soon. This is the 2nd or third month that I have worked to prepare and submit something only to find nothing in the PUG. It's frustrating. The AutoPUG submission page errored off as the last response I got after pressing SUBMIT. Does this mean it went thru and then errored or that it didn't go thru at all? (most likely) I just couldn't tell and without a confirmation, I didn't know. Regards, Bob S. Adelheid writes: > Hi folks, > > The June PUG is ready on my website. > > This means: > > Some links on this page are NOT!!! working. > But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the > pictures of June. > > I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month and last month > is available! No archives as such. > > So now the issue of the URL > It will change each month at present it is: > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun > > I hope this helps a little. > Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as > the one on the > komkon server. > > Cheers > Adelheid
RE: tan is a dickhead...
On 28/5/04, tv, discombobulated, offered: >Well, if you can wait till Saturday there's bound to be something around >here that will work. like a Canon ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website
Clear your cache. Or try to reload. It works fine on my end. Cheers Adelheid -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 28. Mai 2004 17:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website I see everything *except* the thumbnails. Contributor's names are there, but nothing to click on. Regards, Bob... --- "No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session." -- Mark Twain From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Adelheid: > > Thank you so much. > > ERN > > Adelheid told us: > > The June PUG is ready on my website. (... snip ...) > > > So now the issue of the URL > > It will change each month at present it is: > > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun
RE: tan is a dickhead...
On 27/5/04, ROB B, discombobulated, offered: > I thought you >were going to say you forgot the camera or possibly the flash card - >that's what I would call a dickhead, that or Cotty forgetting the beer >or something! D'oh! I think I've nearly drunk it all, better go check TA Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Vivitar's KA/R mount...
Hello all.. I need to draw on your collective wisdom: Are there any Pentax K-mount bodies that will not accept a Vivitar KA/R lens? The specific lens in question is Vivitar's Series 1 19-35/3.5-4.5 zoom. Thanks! Tim
Re: The Sojourn Approacheth
On Fri, 28 May 2004 11:07:58 -0400, Steve Desjardins wrote: > I just got a memo from me (as head of the Institutional > Effectiveness Committee) to me (as head of the chemistry > dept.) that I'm late with a report. I'd better leave > before I have to rough with myself. Taking lessons from Ambrose Burnside? :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
PUG favorites
I don't think I've ever seen a PUG where I only had one or two favorites out of all the great shots, but this month, "Duck! " by Max McRae really jumped out at me. The position of the bird at the moment of capture is really interesting...not a cliché at all! The angle of the light and the blurred background are also great. I also loved "istDaCat Again" by Joseph Tainter. I like how the narrow DOF makes even the cat's cheek blurred, and how the angle makes his head look big. :) Coincidentally, both of these shots were taken with the istD; I'm paying a lot more attention to what can be done with the camera now that I have one!
Re: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website
I see everything *except* the thumbnails. Contributor's names are there, but nothing to click on. Regards, Bob... --- "No man’s life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session." -- Mark Twain From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Adelheid: > > Thank you so much. > > ERN > > Adelheid told us: > > The June PUG is ready on my website. (... snip ...) > > > So now the issue of the URL > > It will change each month at present it is: > > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun
Re: Will I ever use my MX again?
Hey Steve, I have a few screw mount lenses that I'll try to remember to bring if you want some extras. Bill - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Will I ever use my MX again? > I feel your pain. Since I only shoot color, I find that the whole > digital approach is a better fit for me. Digital better fits my > strengths and weaknesses, and because of that I get better photos using > my *istD than my MZ-S. Film has advantages, but I don't do the kind of > photography that takes advantage of them. > > Actually, part of me is tempted to take my SP500 to G.M. and use that > for the photo contest, just for old times sake. I'd be restricted to a > 55 mm lens, but hey, that's part of the fun. > > > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: PAW: Woody Guthrie
frank theriault wrote: And, to find that you mention me in the same sentence as him is an (undeserved) honour. Funny, but my roomate made an offhand comment about me being like the "Miles Davis of photographers" - again undeserved - but I knew what she meant. I've thought that what I do is sort of like jazz - improvising and interpreting, but I like the Woody Guthrie thought about as much, because of the human element of it. Anyway, thanks. And, as for mentioning me in the same breath as Shel, well, I'll talk to you later about ~that~ one! Don't be so modest Frank. Everyone on this list likes your work. I just wish I could go to GFM to see some of it in person, and the person behind it. :) rg
Re: PAW: Woody Guthrie
frank theriault wrote: Again, apologies for being so late commenting on this one. As I've mentioned before, I don't delete PAWs if I get behind (if I do, it's an accident), and I do try to comment on every one, eventually. I was intrigued, looking at the subject line of this one for the last week or so. I wondered if it were a restored vintage photo or something. Now that I read the body of your post, Gonz, I do recall hearing of the play; sounds really interesting. Hopefully it will end up on the road and in Toronto some day. I don't know as much about him as I should, but I really admire his music, politics and life. And, to find that you mention me in the same sentence as him is an (undeserved) honour. Funny, but my roomate made an offhand comment about me being like the "Miles Davis of photographers" - again undeserved - but I knew what she meant. I've thought that what I do is sort of like jazz - improvising and interpreting, but I like the Woody Guthrie thought about as much, because of the human element of it. Anyway, thanks. And, as for mentioning me in the same breath as Shel, well, I'll talk to you later about ~that~ one! So, the photo (I figured I better get around to that ). Like it a lot. You really captured a moment there! Off kilter and all, he really looks like a teetering drunk on the top of a freight car (riding the rails has long been a fantasy of mine - one that will go unfulfilled I'm afraid). If I hadn't known it was a play, I'd have chastized you for the obvious photoshopping of the background , but one way or the other, you're right, it looks cool. Comp is just wonderful, as is exposure. Thanks for the comment. Honestly though, the background did really look like that! I was tempted to increase the contrast to make him completely silhoette, but it really looked artificial at that point. It was backlit and very saturated looking, my daughter did much of the lighting stagework for this play. All in all, a terrific photograph, Gonz! Thanks for posting it and allowing me to ramble on a bit... BTW, are there any copyright issues that you know of? In other words, did you ask permission to take photos? I always ask, and more often than not, they say no (I always respect them). Once, an usher kept giving me the evil eye during intermission, because some jerk took a flash photo, and usher thought it was me (after he said "no"). I actually went up to him and told him it wasn't me, and showed him that I didn't have a flash, and I wouldn't have used one at a performance, but I don't think he believed me. I mean, why would I ask, and then not respect their wishes. Anyway, just curious if you asked. They were fine with it, being college students and all. If I had space, I would put it on a web site to give them some exposure. Like you said though, they really hate flash photography, and will not let you in with a flash mounted on the camera. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Woody Guthrie Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 22:26:44 -0500 Well, not a pic of him But a pic of a play about him. For those who don't recognize the name, Woody Guthrie was a folk song composer that wrote songs about everyday life in small town America mainly during the depression, he is kind of a musical version of photographers like Shel & Frank, capturing special moments, but in music instead of pictures. Here is a nice bio: http://www.woodyguthrie.org/biography.htm and here is a pic of a very interesting scene in the play when he is supposed to be on top of a train inebriated. I liked the backdrop and the resultant silhouette: http://home.austin.rr.com/randj/pics/_IGP0599-web.jpg Comments, critiques, OT discussion, etc., welcome. Gonz _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Will I ever use my MX again?
I feel your pain. Since I only shoot color, I find that the whole digital approach is a better fit for me. Digital better fits my strengths and weaknesses, and because of that I get better photos using my *istD than my MZ-S. Film has advantages, but I don't do the kind of photography that takes advantage of them. Actually, part of me is tempted to take my SP500 to G.M. and use that for the photo contest, just for old times sake. I'd be restricted to a 55 mm lens, but hey, that's part of the fun. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Speaking of music....GFM
I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul and Mary amongst others. Bill
Re: The Sojourn Approacheth
It's definitely time to get way for a few days. I just got a memo from me (as head of the Institutional Effectiveness Committee) to me (as head of the chemistry dept.) that I'm late with a report. I'd better leave before I have to rough with myself. Sigh. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - Music on the Road
Alle 10:10, venerdì 28 maggio 2004, Dan Zaharevitz ha scritto: > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Hi Gang > > > > Call me slow, but I just discovered how easy it is to copy CD's to the > > hard drive using the Win Media Player. It's pretty much all automatic, > > and it astounds me how much info is on the disk. This opens the door to > > copying music to some sort of portable device for use in the car and > > while travelling. > And you have never seen (yet) the Konqueror audiocd:/ plugin... ah... those windows users ;) Danilo.
Re: New York sunset
Looks like rain in the North East today. Too Bad. Bob W wrote: Hi, those of you who are in NYC may have the chance to get a fairly unusual photo today: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Squirrel and Wild Turkey Chick
I'm a big fan of Doug's work. Thought some of you might enjoy these pics. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Doug Herr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > California Ground Squirrel, also known as Beechy Ground Squirrel, munching on > the seed pods of the California Poppy: > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com/mammals/cgsq01.jpg > > and a Wild Turkey (trust me on this one): > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/witu12.jpg > > Technical stuff: Leicaflex SL, 280mm f/4 APO-Telyt-R, Kodachrome 64. > Shoulder stock used with Turkey, shoulder stock and monopod used with > squirrel. All comments welcomed. > > Doug Herr > Birdman of Sacramento > http://www.wildlightphoto.com
Re: OT - Music on the Road
Neither of our vehicles has a CD player, but I play my CD's using a portable CD player and an adapter for the cassette player in both vehicles. Bill > > Hi Gang > > > > Call me slow, but I just discovered how easy it is to copy CD's to the hard > > drive using the Win Media Player. It's pretty much all automatic, and it > > astounds me how much info is on the disk. This opens the door to copying > > music to some sort of portable device for use in the car and while > > travelling. What sorts of devices, apart from an iPod, can be used for > > this purpose? Does MP3 or MP4 (that's the format, right?) sound pretty > > good compared to a home system or a good sound system on the computer? > > What do you do for speakers on the road? > > > > Thanks for any help or suggestions. > > > > > > Shel Belinkoff > > > > > > > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html > > >
Re: OT - Music on the Road
I am currently copying many of my small collection of CD's to MP3. In my case I am doing it because it is much cheaper to do that than to buy a CD changer. Basically I find I can get about 7 CD's onto one MP3 encoded CD that I play in the DVD deck. I will someday replace the stereo in the truck with one that will play MP3 CD's as well. You can get a portable MP3 capable CD player at Wal-Mart for under $30 as well, a cheap alternative for an expensive (but smaller) MP3 player. 7-8 hours of music without having to change CD's. It works for me... -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Gang Call me slow, but I just discovered how easy it is to copy CD's to the hard drive using the Win Media Player. It's pretty much all automatic, and it astounds me how much info is on the disk. This opens the door to copying music to some sort of portable device for use in the car and while travelling. What sorts of devices, apart from an iPod, can be used for this purpose? Does MP3 or MP4 (that's the format, right?) sound pretty good compared to a home system or a good sound system on the computer? What do you do for speakers on the road? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Shel Belinkoff -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: FS Friday: Lenses SMC K 30/2.8 and SMC K 105/2.8
Both excellent optics. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Jarek Dabrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/28/2004 5:29:05 AM > Subject: FS Friday: Lenses SMC K 30/2.8 and SMC K 105/2.8 > > Hello PDML, > > I am selling two rare Pentax K lenses on eBay, SMC 30/2.8 and SMC 105/2.8. > Worldwide shipping. > > SMC 30/2.8 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3818069552 > > SMC 105/2.8 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3818070977 > > Auctions end on Tuesday. > > Regards > Jerry >
Re: I'm outta here...
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: > > Thanks Jostein! > > Woohoo! I just landed in Brisbane! (Checking in via my laptop)... > > Flying out to Tokyo in the morning (about 9 hours time), it's all very > exciting! Don't any of you go talking about me ok, cause I'll be listening! > > tan. Tan - see you soon! By the way - that web place for your notes and progress was dated May 30th 2 days ago -- there isn't THAT much difference between the time over there and over here is there??? :) ann > > -Original Message- > From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: I'm outta here... > > Bon voyage, Tan! > > Jostein > (4 nights to go) > > Quoting Tanya Mayer Photography <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Title says it all! See you all very soon! > > > > tan. > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
PAW - Playing children
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2396176&size=lg Comments are welcome, even though these kids keep me too busy to comment much myself... DagT
Re: Will I ever use my MX again?
And that really is the problem. They sell so fast almost no one has a demo machine. Because there is none on the shelves people come to the erroneous conclusion that the *istD is not selling well. As you know, Cesar, our area Pentax Rep claims they still have thousands of units on back order. -- Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I was at my photo store this afternoon dropping off some MF film when the sales clerk asked me if I had my *ist D with me. It was draped over my shoulder, with my Optio S in the fanny pack. There was an customer interested in digital with some Pentax lenses. I handed my camera to him. The store did not have an *ist D in stock - as soon as they come in, they are gone. The customer was impressed with the size and liked being able to use his lenses on them. He was a little interested in being able to use non-A and M42 lenses on it. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: Lens Renderings
http://plg.komkon.org/ seems to work... -Original Message- From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lens Renderings Who had the site showing the differences in each lens' renderings across the various apertures? Was that Valentin? Is that site still up? Collin --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website
Adelheid: Thank you so much. ERN Adelheid told us: > The June PUG is ready on my website. (... snip ...) > So now the issue of the URL > It will change each month at present it is: > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun (snip)
Lens Renderings
Who had the site showing the differences in each lens' renderings across the various apertures? Was that Valentin? Is that site still up? Collin --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
ONLY -PUG June is available on my website
Hi folks, The June PUG is ready on my website. This means: Some links on this page are NOT!!! working. But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the pictures of June. I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month and last month is available! No archives as such. So now the issue of the URL It will change each month at present it is: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun I hope this helps a little. Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the komkon server. Cheers Adelheid
FS Friday: Lenses SMC K 30/2.8 and SMC K 105/2.8
Hello PDML, I am selling two rare Pentax K lenses on eBay, SMC 30/2.8 and SMC 105/2.8. Worldwide shipping. SMC 30/2.8 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3818069552 SMC 105/2.8 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3818070977 Auctions end on Tuesday. Regards Jerry
Re: FS Friday: K-series SMC 50 f/1.4 - near mint
Mark, May I ask why are you selling it if it is so good? Antonio On 28 May 2004, at 13:58, Mark Roberts wrote: I'm selling my near-prefect-condition SMC 50/1.4 (it took me months of eBay scouring to find one in this condition). $75.00 + shipping. It's about as close to perfect condition as you're ever likely to find. Photos at http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014a.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014b.jpg Please give this lens a good home! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
OT: Manhattan Sunset photo
Ther is an interesting photograph on the Astronomy Picture of the Day page for May 28: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Re: FS Friday: K-series SMC 50 f/1.4 - near mint
An excellent price for an excellent lens. It's sharpness at f/8.0, plus or minus 1.5 stops, is almost legendary! I keep mine on my MX, and were it not as perfect as the one you show here, I'd snap it up right now! keith whaley Mark Roberts wrote: I'm selling my near-prefect-condition SMC 50/1.4 (it took me months of eBay scouring to find one in this condition). $75.00 + shipping. It's about as close to perfect condition as you're ever likely to find. Photos at http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014a.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014b.jpg Please give this lens a good home!
Re: Is it Real or is it PhotoShop?
Of course what we've seen in photographs over the years is someone's attempt to portray their version of reality (mostly). The very fact that we are trying to record a 3 dimensional scene with a media (among other limitations)that has only 2 dimensional capability, takes it out of the realm of true reality (whatever that is). -Original Message- From: Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Is it Real or is it PhotoShop? OK Gang... I'm grappling with the issue of manipulation. I have a shot I took with the *istD. It comes nowhere close to my recollection. So I've put 3 versions up on www.photo.net. The 1st is the original, including water drops on the lens. The 2nd is one that's been processed in PS using Image--> Adjust---> Autocontrast. The 3rd, using the 2nd as a base, reduces contrast by -30 on the scale as PS sees it. Not very scientific... It's probably not a fair test because of the water on the lens in the original, and because somehow I managed to size them slightly differently, but that's the only manipulation I made. The original was simply resized. Numbers 2 and 3 were converted to a .psd during manipulation and then saved as a .jpg. I think the third matches my recollection far better than the first... and I think the second is pretty questionable. If any of you have insights, comments, etc., I'd like to hear them. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=249195 In analyzing what I see and feel, it brings questions to my mind regarding manipulation... 1. (showing my stupidity) Assuming many of us have always just taken our film in to be processed most of our lives, we've come to accept the returned result as THE photo. 2. It's quite difficult to remember exactly what we saw, a day, or in this case about a week, after the image is captured. 3. In the past I would have looked at photo 1 as a waste... now I see it differently. 4. Is all this moot? Has photography, the images we've seen from "the masters", and from popular modern acclaimed photographers, always been a rendering of what was seen through the viewfinder, and never been THE reality? Thanks. Tom C. PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
FS Friday: K-series SMC 50 f/1.4 - near mint
I'm selling my near-prefect-condition SMC 50/1.4 (it took me months of eBay scouring to find one in this condition). $75.00 + shipping. It's about as close to perfect condition as you're ever likely to find. Photos at http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014a.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/smc5014b.jpg Please give this lens a good home! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: Was - New York sunset
Almost as unusual will be all the fleet week ships of the U S Navy. -Original Message- From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 28, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New York sunset Hi, those of you who are in NYC may have the chance to get a fairly unusual photo today: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html -- Cheers, Bob PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Rob... PAW 1 - Hummingbird
Thanks Rob... No I haven't attempted to adjust brightness yet... that would be cheating wouldn't it? ;) Back beating the same old horse... one of the reasons I'm hesitant to do adjustments is I often can't clearly remember the scene so I don't know if my adjustment becomes a 'correction' as opposed to an 'enhancement'. For instance, I have some storm/rainbow shots that I recently took with the *istD. They look pretty washed out, not as I remember seeing them. When I do an auto-levels on them in Photoshop, man it makes a big difference and is more what I remember. But the difference is so huge and the results so much better that I feel guilty accepting the change... Any coments on this? Thanks, Tom Tom C. From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW 1 - Hummingbird Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:12:15 +1000 On 27 May 2004 at 10:47, Tom C wrote: > My first PAW is at this address... > > http://eseephoto.com/album.php?albumid=42ab2b214219fe005b2d&1085674794 > > Let me know if you can access it... I don't know if it's password protected or > not. Thanks. > > *istD w/smc FA 28-200 @ 200 > 1/350 sec > f/6.7 > JPEG best > Saved as .psd and unsharp masked in Photoshop before saving again as a .jpg Very nicely executed, the only improvement it may have benefited from would have been a little light reflected on the birds underside, have you tried lightening it up a little in PS? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Outside the Shattuck Theater in Berkeley
Both good photos, Shel, but I kind of wish that the girl in the top photo and the boy in the bottom were in the same frame . I guess you could photoshop 'em together . A real urban scene. I also like the garbage can on the right. Adds a certain touch to it all. Nice pair of pix. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Outside the Shattuck Theater in Berkeley Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:58:58 -0700 I had to meet someone in downtown Berkeley yesterday afternoon. While waiting for her I caught these two people sitting and talking outside the Shattuck Theater (where I later saw Supersize Me). http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/outside.html Shel Belinkoff _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: I'm outta here...
Rest assured, we'll talk behind you :-) Ciao! Dario - Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: RE: I'm outta here... > Thanks Jostein! > > Woohoo! I just landed in Brisbane! (Checking in via my laptop)... > > Flying out to Tokyo in the morning (about 9 hours time), it's all very > exciting! Don't any of you go talking about me ok, cause I'll be listening! > > tan. > > -Original Message- > From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: I'm outta here... > > > > Bon voyage, Tan! > > Jostein > (4 nights to go) > > Quoting Tanya Mayer Photography <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Title says it all! See you all very soon! > > > > tan. > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > >
Re: Outside the Shattuck Theater in Berkeley
Hi Shel, Trying to get rid of some distracting details, I ended up with this one: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/outside1-grey.jpg Dario - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Outside the Shattuck Theater in Berkeley > Hi Bruce ... > > I was going to convert to B&W ... it actually looked pretty good with a > simple greyscal flip in PS - but decided to get some feedback, see if > anyone cared for the colors. I usually "see" in B&W, and am often > distracted by color, or am not the best judge of its use in photographs. > The top one's my first choice as well. > > Here's the same photo in color and with two conversion techniques. The > conversions were just quickies, but the differences are pretty clear. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/outside-conv.html > > Thanks for taking time to comment. > > Shel Belinkoff
RE: Photo Sites
I concur with Shel. Photo.net. Max of 100 photos if you don't subscribe (I think it's $25US a year). -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Photo Sites Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:11:02 -0600 Can anybody suggest a free site where pictures can be posted that does not require a login? Thanks. Tom C. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Interesting article about Pentax in Australia
Then why on earth do Kennedy's fail to market Pentax lenses with the cameras. Every 'package' they promote has Sigma lens rather than Pentax! Comes with being sole importer/distributor for both I guess. Can anyone say "conflict of interests" Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Director of Development, eyeon Software
Re: Mirror foam on MX
Alan Chan wrote: It is bad. The worst part is, if it sticks to the plastic focus screen, it will leave permanent mark. If you intend to replace the foam yourself, remove the screen first. The foam should be 3mm thick and can be found on eBay. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Hmm, no, it isn't gooey at all. It just crumbles really easily. Does it have to be eggsacktly 3mm thick? I don't think this is too bad, there's still some on the sides. It's just on the middle part that most of it has gone away. /Henri
Will I ever use my MX again?
For b&w. Digitial just doesn't cut it yet. It may later, but not yet. Collin --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: PAW 1... again
Very nice, Tom. Nice bokeh, nice composition. Paul On May 27, 2004, at 3:33 PM, Tom C wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2394287 Tom C.
RE: Is it Real or is it PhotoShop?
I really don't think anyone really cares what the original scene looked like. Every photo we have seen in magazines have been heavily "enchanced" to capture our attention. Just look at those super saturated National Geographic photos! Btw, Auto Contrast seldom works for me. It has the tendency to overdo. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan OK Gang... I'm grappling with the issue of manipulation. I have a shot I took with the *istD. It comes nowhere close to my recollection. So I've put 3 versions up on www.photo.net. The 1st is the original, including water drops on the lens. The 2nd is one that's been processed in PS using Image--> Adjust---> Autocontrast. The 3rd, using the 2nd as a base, reduces contrast by -30 on the scale as PS sees it. Not very scientific... It's probably not a fair test because of the water on the lens in the original, and because somehow I managed to size them slightly differently, but that's the only manipulation I made. The original was simply resized. Numbers 2 and 3 were converted to a .psd during manipulation and then saved as a .jpg. I think the third matches my recollection far better than the first... and I think the second is pretty questionable. If any of you have insights, comments, etc., I'd like to hear them. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=249195 In analyzing what I see and feel, it brings questions to my mind regarding manipulation... 1. (showing my stupidity) Assuming many of us have always just taken our film in to be processed most of our lives, we've come to accept the returned result as THE photo. 2. It's quite difficult to remember exactly what we saw, a day, or in this case about a week, after the image is captured. 3. In the past I would have looked at photo 1 as a waste... now I see it differently. 4. Is all this moot? Has photography, the images we've seen from "the masters", and from popular modern acclaimed photographers, always been a rendering of what was seen through the viewfinder, and never been THE reality? Thanks. Tom C. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: OT - Music on the Road
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Gang Call me slow, but I just discovered how easy it is to copy CD's to the hard drive using the Win Media Player. It's pretty much all automatic, and it astounds me how much info is on the disk. This opens the door to copying music to some sort of portable device for use in the car and while travelling. I've found that it can open up even more than that. It allows you to manage all your music on the computer. I copy the CD and store it away, no need for racks and racks of CDs to be accessible. With a home network (wireless network that you can set up for $150 or less), you can stream the music to your stereo system and even control what is playing via a web interface. What sorts of devices, apart from an iPod, can be used for this purpose? Amazon.com and all the other usual places have big lists under MP3 and Digital Media Players. They range from tiny things with under 32MB and cost less than $100 to "jukeboxes" with 40GB or more costing over $500. I have a 20 GB Rio Karma which I've put about 275 CDs on and I've been very happy with it. Does MP3 or MP4 (that's the format, right?) sound pretty good compared to a home system or a good sound system on the computer? That is the subject of flame wars that combine the worst of both audio and computer flame wars! As someone else mentioned, there a lots of choices, both in the method of compression and the extent of compression. The "standard" MP3 is 128 Kb/sec which results in about a factor of 10-15 space savings. I think most people can hear a difference between music compressed at this level and the uncompressed version if played side by side, but a good many people don't consider the difference to be particularly significant. If you are more picky you can compress less but of course your space savings goes down. It seems a fair number of people that are relatively picky about sound can live with compression at the level of 192-256 Kb/sec. DanZ -- * Dan Zaharevitz * Camp Springs, MD * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I can't wait
On May 28, 2004, at 4:25 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: The current istD price is < $1300 with lens, mail order. As we see a new cheapie @ < $600 next year and the nice one maintaining that $1500-price-class prsence, then used istD units should start going pretty cheap. Minolta Multi Pro film scanner was something like US$4,000 when it came out. Now its US$2,000. Keep those affordable digital cameras coming - I'll be able to afford one of these scanners before long :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
