Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Hi John, on 16 Jun 04 you wrote in pentax.list: - He uses a relatively poor 18-35 instead of the DSLR-optimized 16-45 Because that's what his target audience will buy. Most *istD sets in Germany are sold with the 16-45 or a Sigma lens. The 16-45 is not much more expensive than the 18-35. The 18-35 was sold in reasonable numbers before the 16-45 came out and when the *istD was available as a set, only. Cheers, Heiko
Re: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan..
LOLKMBWBH Dario (laughiung out loud, keeping my belly with both hands) - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:50 AM Subject: RE: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan.. Babelfish sucks. I don't know why so many people use it. I'm not so sure, I found this from an 1986 Pentax advertising campaign. Did we only see this in Australia? http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/1986/1986pentax.htm Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan.. Babelfish sucks. I don't know why so many people use it. http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/ Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Was just using Altavista Babelfish to try to scout any new developments from Pentax Japan: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?url=http%3A%2F%2 Fwww.pentax.co.jp%2Fjapan%2Fnews%2F2004%2F200428.htmllp=ja_en Nothing major, but thought this translation was worth a post: In new mid-term management plangrowth and enlargement in keyword, the technology which covers long time the ? ? ? ? with the centralized ? ? ? the good ? ? ? ? ? kilogram sushi ? scorpion mustache ? ? ¬ and others, it raises technical power, brand power and profitability in the basis, assures the growth and enlargement of continuous business, directs to the completion of ??? and starts promoting this plan. The good kilogram sushi scorpion mustache! Very cool. Cheers, Ryan PS. The rest of the page was vaguely comprehensible, but this one's over my head.. Any takers? _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=htt p://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan..
I'm not so sure, I found this from an 1986 Pentax advertising campaign. Did we only see this in Australia? http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/1986/1986pentax.htm Cheers, Simon Hahaha, thats awesome. Even has a moustache :) Brilliant! :) Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Probably couldn't get the Vietnamese Lens Builder to construct a 16-45 for him in time for the article. They certainly don't seem available around here... Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Director of Development, eyeon Software - Original Message - From: Dr. Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler Hi John, on 16 Jun 04 you wrote in pentax.list: - He uses a relatively poor 18-35 instead of the DSLR-optimized 16-45 Because that's what his target audience will buy. Most *istD sets in Germany are sold with the 16-45 or a Sigma lens. The 16-45 is not much more expensive than the 18-35. The 18-35 was sold in reasonable numbers before the 16-45 came out and when the *istD was available as a set, only. Cheers, Heiko
Re: Giving up on the FA 28-70/4
On 10 Jun 2004 at 16:44, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'll need to do some more tests myself, but certainly any other tests with lenses around that focal length are more than welcome. I've made a series of comparative test shots using lenses from 16mm to 77mm, all the files are unmodified high res low compression JPG files so the total set is around 20MB. Please let me know if you would like to view the files and I'll post you an email containing the test details and links. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Giving up on the FA 28-70/4
I gave up on the 28-70mm F4 a year ago. Got a 28-105mm Power Zomm instead. Got some publishable images with the 28-70mm f4 however, but over OK. Not on par with the FA 20-35mm F4 which is amazing...can't say enough good things about it. The AF gave out as well on the 28-70 (well it was off; could see it in the viewfinder). This lens would need $$ repair from Pentax; better off buying a new lens. Cliff --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jun 2004 at 16:44, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'll need to do some more tests myself, but certainly any other tests with lenses around that focal length are more than welcome. I've made a series of comparative test shots using lenses from 16mm to 77mm, all the files are unmodified high res low compression JPG files so the total set is around 20MB. Please let me know if you would like to view the files and I'll post you an email containing the test details and links. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 = Cliff Nietvelt Photography PO Box 1142, Station M Calgary, Alberta T2P 2K9 CANADA www.cliffnietvelt.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: SV: Film and Development
Let me add my voice to those complaining about color neg film development. Anyone got a good way to clean the dust and crud off? I've tried soft brushes, blowers, and a de-ionizer. Can you _wash_ color negs like you can BW negs? Any magic concoctions for washing? -Lon
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
I'd say at least 2 years, but I don't know if that's pure speculation or wishfull thinking. Alex Sarbu --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Sarbu Alexandru Subject: Re: Nikon to abandon film... Yes, but please ignore Phil's comments and read only the article. Kimura said Nikon had no plans to stop producing film SLRs, but that it may next year start considering pulling out of the film compact camera business due to a sharp plunge in demand. It's clear that SLRs will be next, but imho not in the near future. Define near. William Robb __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
I'd say at least 2 years, but I don't know if that's pure speculation or wishfull thinking. Alex Sarbu --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Sarbu Alexandru Subject: Re: Nikon to abandon film... Yes, but please ignore Phil's comments and read only the article. Kimura said Nikon had no plans to stop producing film SLRs, but that it may next year start considering pulling out of the film compact camera business due to a sharp plunge in demand. It's clear that SLRs will be next, but imho not in the near future. Define near. William Robb __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
I'd say at least 2 years, but I don't know if that's pure speculation or wishfull thinking. Alex Sarbu --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Sarbu Alexandru Subject: Re: Nikon to abandon film... Yes, but please ignore Phil's comments and read only the article. Kimura said Nikon had no plans to stop producing film SLRs, but that it may next year start considering pulling out of the film compact camera business due to a sharp plunge in demand. It's clear that SLRs will be next, but imho not in the near future. Define near. William Robb __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
RE: PDML characters
Tom Reese wrote: Tanja - first impression - yep she has several screws loose everywhere second impression - I underestimated the number of loose screws Erm, thanks - i think lol! It was great to meet you guys too Tom and I agree that there just wasn't enough time to truly get to know each person as well as I'd have liked to. I guess its just lucky then, that I will be there next year! Hopefully, you and your lovely wife will be able to assist me in tightening some of my screws! Well, at least you thought of Frank in a similar light, so I am in good company there! ;-) tan. (the screwy one) -Original Message- From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:39 AM ¡ My thoughts on a few of the people I met at GFM: snip Cesar - a great guy once you get past his peculiar LX fetish. His mission in life seems to be gathering every LX ever made and performing some weird Frankenlizard experiments on them. I hope he's successful in his quest to invent a lens with a vertically slit aperture to match. I did notice a frightening gleam in his eyes when he handled those 6x7 beasts. I wonder if the owners were able to clean off the drool marks. snip I wish I could have gotten to know you all better. I'm already looking forward to next year. Tom Reese
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't get it. You didn't see people flocking to stores to buy Nikon F100s, Canon A3s, or Pentax MZ-Ss, all of which are in about the same price range as the cheapest DSLRs. People who were buying film PS cameras ($100-200) or film SLRs ($250-400) are now suddenly in the market for $1000 cameras? I never said I understood it. But, that's what I've been seeing. I've had alot of non-photographers express interest in the low end D-SLRs. They've bought a PS type digital, really liked using it, and now want to check out one of the two lower cost D-SLRs. I've honestly never had anyone shoot with a film PS and be so inspired by the results that they wanted to go out and drop $1000 on a film SLR. Mark
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
the sharp plunge in demand is Nikon's PS film camera sales dropping from about 1.3 million two years ago to about 600K last year to about 50K this year (over comparable periods). if that is not a clear sign to Nikon then what is? i also seriously doubt any other PS film camera vendor is selling noticeably better. total Japanese manufacturer film SLR production has dropped from a peak of something like 3 million to well under half a million over a slightly longer time period. Herb - Original Message - From: Sarbu Alexandru [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:10 AM Subject: Re: Nikon to abandon film... I'd say at least 2 years, but I don't know if that's pure speculation or wishfull thinking.
Re: IS in Pentax *istD (was Re: canon vs pentax)
Herb Chong asked: since when isn't a pendulum an accelerometer? pendulum: A body suspended from a fixed support so that it swings freely back and forth under the influence of gravity, commonly used to regulate various devices, especially clocks. Also called simple pendulum accelerometer: An instrument used to measure acceleration a pendulum could be used to measure the acceleration due to gravity if an accelerometer were attached to it. The pendulum optical system in the Canon IS lenses works more from inertia than anything else. When the camera lens assembly moves the optical pendulum tends to remain stationary through inertia (and apparently some type of gyroscopic device(s)). The optical pendulum is designed to compensate for slight shifting of the lens axis. The above is based on the IS explanation in the Canon lens guide. An accelerometer based system would measure the camera movement and calculate the required compensation then servo motors (or some other type of device) would attempt to make that compensation. IMO that would be a mess. The Canon system is simple and elegant at the same time. I do wonder what sacrifices are being made in the design of the optics to make it work. I don't know if there is a difference in sharpness between IS lenses with IS turned off and non IS lenses. It would be interesting to find out. I have no idea how the Nikon system works. Tom Reese
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
I think that's one interesting thing about impulse buying. Some consumers don't actually bother how much they spent (so long as they could afford), but they are buying the most cost efficent products (low end in most cases). A $100 PS is a low end film camera, so to a $1000 DSLR in the digital world. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I don't get it. You didn't see people flocking to stores to buy Nikon F100s, Canon A3s, or Pentax MZ-Ss, all of which are in about the same price range as the cheapest DSLRs. People who were buying film PS cameras ($100-200) or film SLRs ($250-400) are now suddenly in the market for $1000 cameras? I never said I understood it. But, that's what I've been seeing. I've had alot of non-photographers express interest in the low end D-SLRs. They've bought a PS type digital, really liked using it, and now want to check out one of the two lower cost D-SLRs. I've honestly never had anyone shoot with a film PS and be so inspired by the results that they wanted to go out and drop $1000 on a film SLR. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
Graywolf forwarded this message to the list: Tom Reese, like many on the list, just don't understand BUSINESS. He says the Nikon F5 is too good a camera and has too loyal a following to drop it from the lineup in the foreseeable future. He suggests in making that statement that Nikon should keep making something that is not selling, just to make people feel good. Go into your neighborhood camera store (where an F5 is stocked) and ask when they last sold one. The folks behind the counter will look at each other, scratch their heads and probably say that they don't remember when they last sold one. Nikon doesn't have the money to keep making things which are not selling. I understand business very well. You make products that people want to buy. I also understand that Nikon has a relatively large customer base of professional photographers who use the F5. I don't think Nikon ever sold vast numbers of the F5 model. It is still important to them as proof that they make the best (yes I know this is debatable but it is marketing) cameras. There are still segments of the professional market that are predominantly film based. John Shaw is still shooting 90% film (as of a few weeks ago in a seminar I attended). I do not believe that Nikon will drop the F5 from their lineup until they have a replacement for it. I could be wrong but I can't see them abandoning it even if they aren't selling very many of them. I believe that it is too important to their marketing department (more pros use Nikon equipment than any other brand) for one thing. I also believe that slide film provides something that digital does not and can't because of the nature of the medium. I believe that slide film will be around after print film disappears. I believe that digital is better if you want prints but there is no digital replacement for transparencies if that is what you want. I could be wrong about slide film demands too. Those are my opinions. Tom Reese
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get it. You didn't see people flocking to stores to buy Nikon F100s, Canon A3s, or Pentax MZ-Ss, all of which are in about the same price range as the cheapest DSLRs. People who were buying film PS cameras ($100-200) or film SLRs ($250-400) are now suddenly in the market for $1000 cameras? At the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend, which is a film-only photo competition, fully 40% of those surveyed own a DSLR. (Out of 160 participants, 104 completed the survey.) That's vastly higher than I expected. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarbu Alexandru wrote: Yes, but please ignore Phil's comments and read only the article. Kimura said Nikon had no plans to stop producing film SLRs, but that it may next year start considering pulling out of the film compact camera business due to a sharp plunge in demand. It's clear that SLRs will be next, but imho not in the near future. Define near. That's the most ridiculous part of the whole Nikon statement: They don't give a time frame for any of it. Saying We're going to eventually stop making film cameras - someday is a bit like a weather forecaster saying It's going to rain - eventually. Well, yes it is. Duh. Without a timeframe it isn't a prediction so much as a statement of the obvious. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: SV: Film and Development
Hi, at the lab I go to they used ethylalcohol to clean the really cruddy negs the customer thomped upon (or whatever). Sometimes it worked. Sometimes not. If the crud is embedded in the emulsion, you are 90% out of luck. There are some commercial negative cleaners made by Tetenal, but I believe them to be alcohol as well. Washing the negative in distilled water wouldn't harm it either. Especially with the alcohol, try it out on some crap before :) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: canon vs pentax
Well, Leica went from the 39mm screw mount to the bayonette M mount on the RF's. Though they produced both for about 10 years. The reflex mount has changed in detail several times. While Nikon has kept the same basic mount it too has changed in detail, and the newest lenses will not work on old cameras and vis versa. Minolta used to introduce new cameras so often I got to calling them Cameras de Jur. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikon and Leica are the only companies I know of who have maintained one mount standard in their SLR lines. Minolta, Canon, and Contax switched over to go AF. Pentax switched over to go K-mount (rather late, considering the age of other bayonet-mount systems), and Olympus basically threw in the towel and went to 4/3. Of course you'll get fewer features with new and old Nikon gear but they WILL mount (other than a few real oddballs). -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: canon vs pentax
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: canon vs pentax as to keep people with good old Pentax lenses from selling them in disgust and buying Canon. Sure, that would be the same Canon that completely abandoned their user base once already? At least Pentax doesn't have that in their history. Nikon and Leica are the only companies I know of who have maintained one mount standard in their SLR lines. Minolta, Canon, and Contax switched over to go AF. Pentax switched over to go K-mount (rather late, considering the age of other bayonet-mount systems), and Olympus basically threw in the towel and went to 4/3. Of course you'll get fewer features with new and old Nikon gear but they WILL mount (other than a few real oddballs). Bullshit. Have you actually looked at the lens compatability issues with Nikon and Leica? With Nikon, there is the AI lens compatability issue, then there are all sorts of issues surrounding whether a particular lens will meter or even allow shutter operation. Even the Nikon users call the lens compatability issue a minefield. In order to get away from it, you have to go to their very top line models, and even then, I doubt if a non AI lens will even mount anymore. I don't know a lot about Leica R series, but I have heard about compatability issues between 2 cam and 3 cam lenses (though I don't have a clue what this means). Personally, I think Canon made the right choice. Their mount was probably the worst on the market (small, hard to operate). Actually, the M42 mount was smaller and harder to operate. The FD mount was about as easy as any other bayonet, and I never had problems with the breech lock, although I did find that the camera wanted to be sitting on it's back when mounting lenses. Agreed on dropping the FD mount being the right choice. It was, i fact, the only choice, but it was a huge gamble for them. William Robb
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: Nikon to abandon film... I also believe that slide film provides something that digital does not and can't because of the nature of the medium. I believe that slide film will be around after print film disappears. I believe that digital is better if you want prints but there is no digital replacement for transparencies if that is what you want. I could be wrong about slide film demands too. Pro film use accounts for about .5% of the market, slide film accounts for about 5% of the pro film market. Pro directed equipment and film are corporate pride items, not money makers. How long pro directed film equipment stays on the market is dependant on how long the companies feel the pride of having it on the market is important to them. The rich amateur is going to digital now, not pro directed film cameras, and the real pros are going to digital in droves, mostly completely abandoning film. If a company has the resources and willingness to put a very expensive product on the market (such as an F6 class camera) knowing that they will sell a half dozen worldwide, more power to them. I just don't see it happening. William Robb
Re: SV: Film and Development
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek Subject: Re: SV: Film and Development Hi, at the lab I go to they used ethylalcohol to clean the really cruddy negs the customer thomped upon (or whatever). Sometimes it worked. Sometimes not. If the crud is embedded in the emulsion, you are 90% out of luck. There are some commercial negative cleaners made by Tetenal, but I believe them to be alcohol as well. Washing the negative in distilled water wouldn't harm it either. Especially with the alcohol, try it out on some crap before :) If the neg is really dirty, washing in warm water and a mild detergent is a good solution, as detergent will remove grease (finger oil) better than dedicated film cleaners. Commercial film cleaners are a chemical called trichlorithene (the spelling may be wrong). William Robb
Re: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan..
ROFL!! I have a feeling that's not the last we'll see of the mustachioed sushi-scorpion.. Simon that's hilarious.. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: RE: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan.. Babelfish sucks. I don't know why so many people use it. I'm not so sure, I found this from an 1986 Pentax advertising campaign. Did we only see this in Australia? http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/1986/1986pentax.htm Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan.. Babelfish sucks. I don't know why so many people use it. http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/ Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Was just using Altavista Babelfish to try to scout any new developments from Pentax Japan: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?url=http%3A%2F%2 Fwww.pentax.co.jp%2Fjapan%2Fnews%2F2004%2F200428.htmllp=ja_en Nothing major, but thought this translation was worth a post: In new mid-term management plangrowth and enlargement in keyword, the technology which covers long time the ? ? ? ? with the centralized ? ? ? the good ? ? ? ? ? kilogram sushi ? scorpion mustache ? ? ¬ and others, it raises technical power, brand power and profitability in the basis, assures the growth and enlargement of continuous business, directs to the completion of ??? and starts promoting this plan. The good kilogram sushi scorpion mustache! Very cool. Cheers, Ryan PS. The rest of the page was vaguely comprehensible, but this one's over my head.. Any takers? _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
CF-card recovery software (was: ISTD in-camera corruption of RAW images)
And, more important, I contacted the seller, and they will most likely replace the card with a 1Gb Ultra-II card and send the old one in to Sandisk under guarantee. That would be a great replacement, so I am not trying to 'FIX' the card now if I can get a faster and new card instead :-) Well, I went to the dealer yesterday, and they simply exchanged the defective Sandisk 1Gb card (which I bought USED from them btw :-) by a brand new Sandisk Ultra II of the same capacity. Perfect service! Another nice bonus is that I also received the mini CDROM that comes with new Sandisk cards, and that has an interesting piece of recovery software on it. It is called Sandisk ResquePRO 2.0 and is intended to recover deleted or otherwise lost images from any removale medium. The interesting things is, I had a card with ONE image on it (a Pentax RAW file) which was not seen by that software initially (as expected). After deleting the file, and re-scanning the media, it DID show this deleted file (with the first letter changed to '#'). Much to my surprise, when i clicked on it, it OPENED the file correctly in the Pentax PhotoBrowser! So you can recover RAW files just as easy as JPGs which is quite nice! Recovery means copying the file (data) to another drive, it is not an in-place undelete ... Regards, JvW PS: The image shown in the PentaxBrowser is actually a copy they create in the TEMP directory ... -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: canon vs pentax
And, like Pentax, with an inexpensive adapter, every threaded lens ever made for the Leica will work on any Leica bayonet mount body, as well as lenses from Nikon, Canon, Cosina, a Pentax or two, Russian Jupiters, and others. And while there have been minor changers to the SLR mount over the years, every Leica lens made for the SLR will work on newer cameras. Shel [Original Message] From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/17/2004 5:04:15 AM Subject: Re: canon vs pentax Well, Leica went from the 39mm screw mount to the bayonette M mount on the RF's. Though they produced both for about 10 years. The reflex mount has changed in detail several times. While Nikon has kept the same basic mount it too has changed in detail, and the newest lenses will not work on old cameras and vis versa.
Re: canon vs pentax
Hi Bill I'm far from well-versed in the two cam / three cam scenario, but I do believe that the lenses can be used interchangeably, and that simply modifications can be made to the two cam lenses to allow them to be used in three cam bodies. IOW, while I may have some details wrong, the bottom line is that it's no big deal. Shel Bill Robb wrote: I don't know a lot about Leica R series, but I have heard about comparability issues between 2 cam and 3 cam lenses (though I don't have a clue what this means).
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:36:40 +0200, you wrote: OK, Jostein, You and the others who posted on this subject have convinced me. It makes little sense to me, but I can accept that many snapshooters are now buying a DLSR. Hopefully, while most of them will store those cameras in adrawwer after a while, some will grow as amateur photographers, and that's a good thing. Dario Our daughter is a good example of a snapshooter. A few years ago when she was in her early twenties I gave her a very nice ME Super set with a couple of primes, a zoom, and a flash. She was thrilled, and using this nice set she caught the snapshooting bug. So what did she buy for an upgrade from the ME Super? Canon Rebel. Kit lens short zoom. 70-300 that I bought her for a present. Now, a couple of years later, she has added the Digital Rebel as her primary camera, which came with an 18-55 kit lens. Most likely she has reached her equipment saturation point, and probably won't ever upgrade again. Snapshooter behavior: On her recent trip to Hawaii, she took one 512mb card. As it filled up, she made more space by editing the bad ones, then started lowering the resolution to get more on the same card. It never occurred to here to go spend the bucks for another CF card, or an image tank, or the other options. She thought it was perfectly okay to lower the resolution to get more pics on her one card. BTW, the Digital Rebel is an odd gunmetal color, which gets more ugly the more I look at it. But for all its plastic body, it still feels fairly sturdy, and is much larger than one would expect, especially compared to the *istD. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: canon vs pentax
as to keep people with good old Pentax lenses from selling them in disgust and buying Canon. The moderator of the Nikon D1 BB has switched to the Canon Mark II.Wonder what that signifies.?? Dave
1/2 way there
Made a boo boo on my taxes this year and got back an additional $370.00 Canadian.Now i have 1/2 of what i need to add the D. Dave
Re: canon vs pentax
I think we also agree that dropping M42 mount was the right choice for Pentax. The bayonet mount is much easier (faster) to use, imo. And I'm not sure you can make M42 AF lensesbodies... Alex Sarbu --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the M42 mount was smaller and harder to operate. The FD mount was about as easy as any other bayonet, and I never had problems with the breech lock, although I did find that the camera wanted to be sitting on it's back when mounting lenses. Agreed on dropping the FD mount being the right choice. It was, i fact, the only choice, but it was a huge gamble for them. William Robb __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: canon vs pentax
OK, the last time I replied to this list I did it all wrong and added unnecessarily to length of the response. Subject: Re: canon vs pentax With Nikon, there is the AI lens compatability issue, then there are all sorts of issues surrounding whether a particular lens will meter or even allow shutter operation. Even the Nikon users call the lens compatability issue a minefield. In order to get away from it, you have to go to their very top line models, and even then, I doubt if a non AI lens will even mount anymore. Perhaps its a minefield if one expects total compatibility of all lenses with all bodies but, its really not so bad. For example, Non-AI lenses can be easily and cheaply modified and some AI bodies will accept non-AI lenses. For the most part its nice to know that purchasing a new body would not require the acquistion of an entirely new set of lenses. I think this is also a point in favor of Pentax as well: that older K mount lenses can still be used with the latest bodies. RCB
Re: canon vs pentax
On 17 Jun 2004 at 9:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The moderator of the Nikon D1 BB has switched to the Canon Mark II.Wonder what that signifies.?? I guess that he/she had very little $$$ invested in Nikon glass or he/she has pockets full of spare cash? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
Most of these posts are making reasonable arguments. The problem is we are trying to distinguish between a 1-2 vs. 4-5 year time scale, and this is sufficiently tight prediction that it's hard to know which argument will prevail. I think it is safe to say that high end film SLRs will be gone in 10 years. One problem is that the DSLRs are viewed as an indication of where a company is technologically. I think it could actually HURT Nikon to release an F6, since the reaction might be God, they'll still spend RD money on that stuff? No wonder Canon is beating them . . .. Not everyone feels like this, but I think the majority do and in this case trying to please both could actually hurt you. And Nikon has got to be worried. They are nothing special in the digital PS market and, at the high end, 1D Mark II is a more impressive camera than the D2H. Pentax may be trying to hold onto a niche but Nikon is trying to avoid ending up there. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/17/04 07:53AM Graywolf forwarded this message to the list: Tom Reese, like many on the list, just don't understand BUSINESS. He says the Nikon F5 is too good a camera and has too loyal a following to drop it from the lineup in the foreseeable future. He suggests in making that statement that Nikon should keep making something that is not selling, just to make people feel good. Go into your neighborhood camera store (where an F5 is stocked) and ask when they last sold one. The folks behind the counter will look at each other, scratch their heads and probably say that they don't remember when they last sold one. Nikon doesn't have the money to keep making things which are not selling. I understand business very well. You make products that people want to buy. I also understand that Nikon has a relatively large customer base of professional photographers who use the F5. I don't think Nikon ever sold vast numbers of the F5 model. It is still important to them as proof that they make the best (yes I know this is debatable but it is marketing) cameras. There are still segments of the professional market that are predominantly film based. John Shaw is still shooting 90% film (as of a few weeks ago in a seminar I attended). I do not believe that Nikon will drop the F5 from their lineup until they have a replacement for it. I could be wrong but I can't see them abandoning it even if they aren't selling very many of them. I believe that it is too important to their marketing department (more pros use Nikon equipment than any other brand) for one thing. I also believe that slide film provides something that digital does not and can't because of the nature of the medium. I believe that slide film will be around after print film disappears. I believe that digital is better if you want prints but there is no digital replacement for transparencies if that is what you want. I could be wrong about slide film demands too. Those are my opinions. Tom Reese
Re: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan..
Simon King wrote: Babelfish sucks. I don't know why so many people use it. I'm not so sure, I found this from an 1986 Pentax advertising campaign. Did we only see this in Australia? http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/1986/1986pentax.htm Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan.. Babelfish sucks. I don't know why so many people use it. http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/ How should I put this, close but no cigar. Or in other words don't quit your day job. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Was just using Altavista Babelfish to try to scout any new developments from Pentax Japan: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pentax.co.jp%2Fjapan%2Fnews%2F2004%2F200428.htmllp=ja_en Nothing major, but thought this translation was worth a post: In new mid-term management plangrowth and enlargement in keyword, the technology which covers long time the ? ? ? ? with the centralized ? ? ? the good ? ? ? ? ? kilogram sushi ? scorpion mustache ? ? ¬ and others, it raises technical power, brand power and profitability in the basis, assures the growth and enlargement of continuous business, directs to the completion of ??? and starts promoting this plan. The good kilogram sushi scorpion mustache! Very cool. Cheers, Ryan PS. The rest of the page was vaguely comprehensible, but this one's over my head.. Any takers? _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Damn, either the 18-35 is very expensive in Germany or the 16-45 is really inexpensive... Dr. Heiko Hamann wrote: Hi John, on 16 Jun 04 you wrote in pentax.list: - He uses a relatively poor 18-35 instead of the DSLR-optimized 16-45 Because that's what his target audience will buy. Most *istD sets in Germany are sold with the 16-45 or a Sigma lens. The 16-45 is not much more expensive than the 18-35. The 18-35 was sold in reasonable numbers before the 16-45 came out and when the *istD was available as a set, only. Cheers, Heiko
Re: canon vs pentax
On 17 Jun 2004 at 9:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The moderator of the Nikon D1 BB has switched to the Canon Mark II.Wonder what that signifies.?? Then Rob Studdert said: I guess that he/she had very little $$$ invested in Nikon glass or he/she has pockets full of spare cash? I think the later Rob.Sounded like he had a wack of equipment,but is po'd at the customer service end.I hear that a lot on that BB. Dave
Re: GFM: Dans l'Objectif du Lapin Demente
LOL. I love the he crawls out of his lair shot. Reminds me of an ad for a cheap horror flick.
Re: OT: Launch of my New Website
It's very nice to see such high quality work coming from a list member. Too bad, just as we are graced by such incredibly good photos, that the maker is considering going to another camera brand. I don't think there are many people, who are this serious about their photography, using Pentax gear in comparison to Nikon and Canon... It's a shame Pentax may lose another walking advertisement for its equipment. Anyway, your site is one of the nicest I've seen in a long time. Very well done. I agree with some of the earlier comments about the navigation, but I think they are minor points. Your photography is absolutely first rate. Keep up the good work. Thanks Vic
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
So true. Another point: For some folks $1000 isn't that expensive. They easily spend this kind of money on TVs and videocams. They just buy the Rebel as a high end PS. I think DReb is pretty ugly, but I do think the D70 is knida nice. I epxect the Baby D will have quite a bit of silver. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/17/04 08:49AM On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:36:40 +0200, you wrote: OK, Jostein, You and the others who posted on this subject have convinced me. It makes little sense to me, but I can accept that many snapshooters are now buying a DLSR. Hopefully, while most of them will store those cameras in adrawwer after a while, some will grow as amateur photographers, and that's a good thing. Dario Our daughter is a good example of a snapshooter. A few years ago when she was in her early twenties I gave her a very nice ME Super set with a couple of primes, a zoom, and a flash. She was thrilled, and using this nice set she caught the snapshooting bug. So what did she buy for an upgrade from the ME Super? Canon Rebel. Kit lens short zoom. 70-300 that I bought her for a present. Now, a couple of years later, she has added the Digital Rebel as her primary camera, which came with an 18-55 kit lens. Most likely she has reached her equipment saturation point, and probably won't ever upgrade again. Snapshooter behavior: On her recent trip to Hawaii, she took one 512mb card. As it filled up, she made more space by editing the bad ones, then started lowering the resolution to get more on the same card. It never occurred to here to go spend the bucks for another CF card, or an image tank, or the other options. She thought it was perfectly okay to lower the resolution to get more pics on her one card. BTW, the Digital Rebel is an odd gunmetal color, which gets more ugly the more I look at it. But for all its plastic body, it still feels fairly sturdy, and is much larger than one would expect, especially compared to the *istD. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
RE: Camera Bag Enabled
Just to get back on topic for a second (sorry) I got a Domke F1 a few years ago. It's a little big, but I really do like it. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Hi Peter, on 17 Jun 04 you wrote in pentax.list: Damn, either the 18-35 is very expensive in Germany or the 16-45 is really inexpensive... fotokoch.org (beeing not the cheapest online shop) sells them both for 479,- Euro = 575,- USD. Cheers, Heiko
Re: OT: Launch of my New Website
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:10:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Nietvelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Launch of my New Website Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes I have considered it. I have steered away from 600's in general because they are heavy and big, and can not be used with a Wimberly side-kick. You can with a 500mm though. Though i am very fit and a built guy, I get tired just thinking hauling a 600mm f4 in the Rockies or Tetons. My leaning right now is for the Canon EF 400mm F4 DO. If Pentax made a 400mm f4 I would be on it like a cheap suit. Trust me I have thought of almost every camera brand lens combos combo, priced them out, etc., etc. Is a stop or half a stop that important? Pentax made a fine 500/4.5 MF, and I think still makes a 400/5.6 AF. Both Nikon and Pentax made 600/5.6s, which would be lighter than the 600/4s, but you are probably looking for an AF lens. If Pentax made a 400/4 it would probably be pretty big. I've thought at times that I'd love to see a 400/4.0 from Nikon but considering the size and cost of the 400/3.5 from Nikon I'm not sure it'd gain me much. Contax does make a 400/4 USM IIRC. DJE
Re: Opinions: A35/2 vs K30/2.8
OK, I have been looking for a nice SMC-A 35mm f/2 for a long time ... for those who have said they own one and hardly ever use it, will you consider selling it? Give me a price, or let me know what you may be looking for in trade. Joe RE: Haven't used the K 30 f/2.8, but I do own the A35 f/2. It is a pretty spectactular lens. To bad I almost never use it. ... I have both these lenses. I have shot tests with them, but I haven't put much mileage on the 30 and haven't touched the 35 in a decade. -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
OT: Montreal photo equipment shop recommendations
I will be visiting Montreal this summer and was wondering whether anyone had any recommendations for camera shops to visit. I would be looking for new and used Pentax lenses, used Konica AR lenses, and possibly some other accessory-type stuff. Thanks, Chaso = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Nikon to abandon film...
From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graywolf forwarded this message to the list: Tom Reese, like many on the list, just don't understand BUSINESS. He says the Nikon F5 is too good a camera and has too loyal a following to drop it from the lineup in the foreseeable future. He suggests in making that statement that Nikon should keep making something that is not selling, just to make people feel good. Go into your neighborhood camera store (where an F5 is stocked) and ask when they last sold one. The folks behind the counter will look at each other, scratch their heads and probably say that they don't remember when they last sold one. Nikon doesn't have the money to keep making things which are not selling. I understand business very well. You make products that people want to buy. I also understand that Nikon has a relatively large customer base of professional photographers who use the F5. Just out of curiousity, in what genre of professional photography? I haven't seen an F5 in the field in over a year. Most areas of photography that require better than 11-14MP require medium format. I don't think Nikon ever sold vast numbers of the F5 model. It is still important to them as proof that they make the best (yes I know this is debatable but it is marketing) Canon still sells EOS1Vs, I think, so Nikon will presumably keep selling F5s. Last I looked you could still get new F3s! Quite possibly the production line has stopped and they are building from parts. cameras. There are still segments of the professional market that are predominantly film based. John Shaw is still shooting 90% film (as of a few weeks ago in a seminar I attended). I do not believe that Nikon will drop the F5 from their lineup until they have a replacement for it. Other than the AF system, though, and battery consumption, there is very little on the F5 that needs improvement. It's at least as good as anyone else's top-of-the-line film camera. It's strongest competitor in many ways is Nikon's own F100. I could be wrong but I can't see them abandoning it even if they aren't selling very many of them. I believe that it is too important to their marketing department (more pros use Nikon equipment than any other brand) for one thing. I doubt this is still true. Now, it's Canon. Of course I'm still convinced that Pentax retains the big FA* lenses for more of less the same reason. I've never seen one in the wild, and only once or twice heard of anyone who uses one. I get the impression that most of them are built to order, as some of Nikon's oddballs used to be. I also believe that slide film provides something that digital does not and can't because of the nature of the medium. I believe that slide film will be around after print film disappears. I believe that digital is better if you want prints but there is no digital replacement for transparencies if that is what you want. I could be wrong about slide film demands too. You can, or at least could, burn digital images to slide film (expensively, at a service bureau). Digital manipulation artists apparently do this a lot. While I prefer slide film myself, I'm not sure what it offers in practice to most people except perhaps the ability to bore their friends in darkened rooms. DJE
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
both together? like in a package? BH (not the cheapest place in America) sells the 18-35 for US$165 and the 16-45 for US$430 Christian -Original Message- From: Dr. Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 17, 2004 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler Hi Peter, on 17 Jun 04 you wrote in pentax.list: Damn, either the 18-35 is very expensive in Germany or the 16-45 is really inexpensive... fotokoch.org (beeing not the cheapest online shop) sells them both for 479,- Euro = 575,- USD. Cheers, Heiko
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Actually, I bet it's a fair sample of serious amateurs. Many serious amateurs in the US spend enough money on their gear to include a DSLR, if they want one. Most of the these folks don't use Pentax, although the PDML get-together lead to an over representation of Pentax. For that matter, we might under represent the DSLR ownership since Pentax doesn't have a low end DSLR yet. At the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend, which is a film-only photo competition, fully 40% of those surveyed own a DSLR. (Out of 160 participants, 104 completed the survey.) That's vastly higher than I expected. True, but I'm betting GFM was a skewed sample of photographers. How many of them also own multiple film cameras? How many of them own LXen or MZ-Ss? For that matter, the fact that they went to (and presumably paid for) a photo workshop would suggest that most of the attendees were more serious than the average amateur. DJE
Re: Last GFM 2004 link update - 16th June.
Thanks for doing this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/04 01:52PM On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:04:12 +0100, Malcolm Smith wrote: **As Doug F has kindly provided a web page for the GFM 2004 links, this will be the last one** These updates are now online on the web page http://www.NutDriver.org/GFM2004.shtml I will try to catch updates as they go by on the PDML, but it would make my life a lot easier if you'd send me an email to let me know if you want to be added or removed from the list or if I've missed a page or entered the URL wrong. For these purposes, please send me an email at DougF (at) NutDriver.org. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: OT: Windows 98 help
Hmmm... maybe you can just reinstall the OS? Boot from a win98 CD and choose to install in the same location - don't format the drive. Make that drive the primary master, to be sure it will be the C: drive on your system (you'll be able to use your old win95 drive as D:, but of course you can't boot from it) Good luck - you'll need it! grin Alex Sarbu --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! What I'd like to know is whether swapping between my old and this new Win98 drive somehow will give me trouble swapping back to my present Win95 C:drive. (Like, will it work at all to get the new Win98 running? Would this somehow change bios settings (or cause other modifications) which will give me problems when returning to my old (present) Win95 set up? My understanding, which is of course limited g, would be that what you describe is close to impossible. That is, if you take a Win98 bootable hard drive from random PC and put it into another PC it most probably won't boot. You might end up having to reinstall much of the components probably including the OS itself. Now, if you were to have bootable hard drive with Win98 that you had set up properly on your PC and along with it have another one with Win95 that was also properly set up, you could do what you describe. Furthermore, there are multi-boot managers so that in fact, you wouldn't even have to open the box and play with jumper switches... Hope I did not increase your confusion. Boris __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
PAW - SF MOMA Photo
Here's another from our day at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. I don't know if it needs a title, but a few crossed my mind ... anyway, regardless of what it's called, maybe you'll find it interesting or worthy of a second look http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/sfmoma2.html Shel
War Photographer: James Nachtwey
Hi, Last night I watched War Photographer, a documentary dealing with the work of James Nachtwey. The film was in theaters a few years ago, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's now out on DVD in this country, and I'd like to suggest a viewing. A unique aspect to this film is that there's a mini camera mounted on Nachtwey's Canon, and the viewer gets to see how the photographer chooses his shots, when and where he changes aperture or shutter speed, what those parameters are, and when he makes the exposure. There's also a segment of Nachtwey working with his printer to finalize a print for an exhibition. The amount of time and detail that went into making the final print may not be surprising to those who have made their own exhibition quality prints, or who are familiar with the process, but, nevertheless, it was fascinating to watch. The documentary is inspiring, to say the least, and the film was every bit as good and intriguing the second time around. Plus, the DVD has some nice extra features. Shel Shel
PAW - Some Nice Cambodian Pics
Not my work, but worth viewing, IMO ... http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/71087.html?1087111096 http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/71727.html?1087480849 Shel
OT: Other Pentax News
More of a FYI than news if anyone is interested TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. (7750) aims to strengthen its endoscope business by teaming up with TeraRecon Inc. The tie-up with the U.S. firm will help enhance the diagnostic functions of Pentax's products. The California-based manufacturer of medical imaging systems has expertise in a technology for reproducing 3-D images on-screen at high speed using data from such diagnostic systems as CT (computerized tomography) scanners. By integrating this technology into its endoscopes, Pentax will be able to offer a system that can display 3-D images from an image diagnostic machine and an endoscope side by side. The system will give doctors a better diagnostic tool in cancer treatment, for example, by providing a view inside the body that an endoscope alone could not. Pentax also plans to expand its artificial bone and other medical businesses to bolster its medical products division, which already generates about 60% of its operating profit. Pentax has a roughly 2% stake in TeraRecon. (The Nihon Keizai Shimbun Friday morning edition)
SV: Casio/Pentax
I have read that a great many digital cameras are of Sanyo origin... Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. juni 2004 16:50 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Casio/Pentax on 16.06.04 16:44, Collin Brendemuehl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's also remember that there are only so many semiconductor fabricators out there. Open up a Canon or Nikon and you'll find other names as well. Well, my friend was at service point with his friend who borught Canon Digital Ixus for reparation. Technician disassembled camera at their presence - most parts (including lens!) were made by... Sony :-) It really suprised me, I thought that at least lens would be made by Canon... -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: PAW - SF MOMA Photo
Hi, Here's another from our day at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. I don't know if it needs a title, but a few crossed my mind ... anyway, regardless of what it's called, maybe you'll find it interesting or worthy of a second look http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/sfmoma2.html sometimes I think a title is the photographer's (or scultor's, or painter's, or ... (I can't bring myself to use the A word)) way of beating their audience about the head, or forcing an opinion on them. I think this is one of those cases. A friend of mine who is a sculptor and jewellery maker had a couple of very nice pieces in an exhibition a couple of years ago. They were glass scultpures in cases, and each worked as a series, like film frames. Piece #1 started with 2 red glass hearts hanging next to each other on threads. The 2nd part showed one heart. In the 3rd part the heart was shattered in pieces on the floor of the case. This piece was untitled. Piece #2 started with 2 tall, identical shards of glass next to each other. In part 2 one of the shards was shattered in pieces on the floor of the case, while the other shard was intact. In part 3 both shards lay shattered. The first piece sold within about 3 seconds of the exhibition opening, and was hugely popular. The second piece she called 9/11, and it seemed much less popular. I told her off about the title because I thought she should let her audience figure it out for themselves, rather than forcing it on them, and telling them what to think. When she removed the title, it sold. Give your audience something to do! -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Camera Bag Enabled
Thursday, June 17, 2004, 4:15:19 PM, Steve wrote: SD Just to get back on topic for a second (sorry) I got a Domke F1 a few SD years ago. It's a little big, but I really do like it. It's about OK size if you need to put full assignment gear into it. They are nice bags, I have myself F2 and F803 (or 802?). I think they go well with my ragged (or rugged? vgb) self ;-) I have been trough assignments in heavy rain for hours with them (they are made of cotton) and not a drop inside. OTOH for some people they are too unprotective. Depends on how you (ab)use your cameras. BTW, I heard they are either out of business (was it Tiffen that acquired Saunders which acquired Domke bags years ago?), or doing badly. Czech importer (Kodak!) stopped carrying them two years ago, and I haven't seen them much in Europe as well. If that's true, I will just have to make my own. I am getting a good supply of (technical!) super-heavy-grade hemp cloth so be prepared to see some Stoned (TM) camera bags at next EuroPDML ;-) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: War Photographer: James Nachtwey
Hi, Last night I watched War Photographer, a documentary dealing with the work of James Nachtwey. The film was in theaters a few years ago, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's now out on DVD in this country, and I'd like to suggest a viewing. [...] Seconded -- Cheers, Bob
Re: interesting piece of gear
Cosina makes one (if it's similar) for their Voigtlnder line of rangefinders. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
PJA offering both IMHO. It seems Europeans, at least PJA Germans are being ripped off. Bah, you should have seen the prices here in Czechia ;-) Real prices depend a lot on the country, importer and the mother organisation. For example, Pentax here isn't true Pentax subsidiary, it's just a small importer. That's why the IstD prices in Czechia are high. But for example even some higher-end (2.8) Sigma lenses, and all Cosina lenses, are about 20-30% (!) cheaper here than in Germany. And I could get (if I was into studio photography that much) Kodak DCS Pro SLR/n for ~3000 Euro (new!). Try to match THAT!!! :) Sadly, most other equipment (photographic) is cheaper in the US. Except the Cosina Voigtländer lenses, most items are about 30% less in the US. Generally (except the UK), US official prices (from the producer) are about the same as here in the EU, but one price is in $, the other in Euro. Which makes a realworld difference quite big, because dollar is currently quite lower than Euro. I am considering getting some items (flashes) from the US. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: OT: Montreal photo equipment shop recommendations
I will be visiting Montreal this summer and was wondering whether anyone had any recommendations for camera shops to visit. I would be looking for new and used Pentax lenses, used Konica AR lenses, and possibly some other accessory-type stuff. Thanks, Chaso If you ever make it to Quebec City (a 2 hours and a half drive from Montreal), there are a few camera shops, but the big one is Photo Presto in the center of town. Huge used equipment section. Good on Pentax, low on Konica. They have a WEB site, but their used list is far from complete. They bargain for 15-20% less. What are you looking for in Konica AR? I am going to Montreal saturday and will be able to comment once back in Quebec. Andre
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
If you ever consider buying, say, a 300/2.8 or a 70-200/2.8, it actually pays of to take a flight to NYC, buy it there and fly back. The FA*300/2.8, for example, is four plane tickets cheaper at BH than in Norway or Sweden. :-) Jostein Quoting Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: PJA offering both IMHO. It seems Europeans, at least PJA Germans are being ripped off. Bah, you should have seen the prices here in Czechia ;-) Real prices depend a lot on the country, importer and the mother organisation. For example, Pentax here isn't true Pentax subsidiary, it's just a small importer. That's why the IstD prices in Czechia are high. But for example even some higher-end (2.8) Sigma lenses, and all Cosina lenses, are about 20-30% (!) cheaper here than in Germany. And I could get (if I was into studio photography that much) Kodak DCS Pro SLR/n for ~3000 Euro (new!). Try to match THAT!!! :) Sadly, most other equipment (photographic) is cheaper in the US. Except the Cosina Voigtländer lenses, most items are about 30% less in the US. Generally (except the UK), US official prices (from the producer) are about the same as here in the EU, but one price is in $, the other in Euro. Which makes a realworld difference quite big, because dollar is currently quite lower than Euro. I am considering getting some items (flashes) from the US. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
OT: Wine (Hungarian, Romanian)
Hi, I decided to bring some life to PDML, with something else than Pentax vs Canon discussion ;-) And with only Beer being drunk at the GFM PDML Central, how about some wine? I am editing a lot of photographs from digital instead of watching a nice film in my favourite club cinema (sigh!) *anybody - Staveni by Milos Zabransky g it's in Czech though : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0304752/ * ... so I bought myself a bottle of Hungarian wine to go with it. As I don't like computers that much, working on one for extended time is certainly easier with some wine to sip for me! I admit, fellow Hungarian PDMLers wouldn't probably recommend it, it's the normal stuff we get imported here... Cabernet Franc Rose from Alfld region. What would you recommend (except excellent Tokaj of course, that goes without saying!) to smuggle back with me when I go trough Hungaria this summer? From heavier, red wines, probably? As I will be traveling to Romania (Buna Ziwa!), I will also bring back some of my favourite Romanian ones. If any of the PDMLers from Hungary or Romania would be interested in a meeting, I would very much like to! Timeline and schedule is still very sketchy, though. Probably going trough Buda Pest to Arad and then deciding. Probably Bucurest as well. There is a shadowy bar at the trainstation that every friend who had been there recommends. Emilia or similar name? I can't remember just now. Multumesk! Good light, Frantisek Vlcek P.S.: if you see some derranged Frank Theriault-like g posts from me in a few hours, you will know that I have finally succumbed to both the Janis Joplin music on my record player and the wine, missing the tomorrow's deadline... Editing photos on the computer can be so streinous sometimes :-)
Re: OT: Other Pentax News
ban TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. (7750) aims to strengthen its ban endoscope business by teaming up with TeraRecon Inc. Pentax endoscope anyone? There could be some at Ebay :) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I bet it's a fair sample of serious amateurs. Many serious amateurs in the US spend enough money on their gear to include a DSLR, if they want one. Yep. If anything, it's skewed towards film users because those who've sold off all their film gear couldn't participate. In fact, Michael Reichmann has told me he's seeing more and more people at his workshops who have *never* owned a film camera in their lives. (He noticed this after explaining things using film photography analogies and getting blank stares in return. g) Some more tidbits: 104 people (out of about 160 present) completed the survey for us. 46% were first-timers at GFM. 12.5% have never used a digital camera. 40% own a DSLR. 32.7% very much want a digital contest next year. 19.2% very much *don't* want a digital contest next year. 54% do half or more of their photography in digital now. 15.4% do virtually all of their photography in digital now. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: War Photographer: James Nachtwey
SB There's also a segment of Nachtwey working with his printer to finalize a SB print for an exhibition. The amount of time and detail that went into The scene where he points to the huge print tacked on the wall, and tells them - burn in there some more, and they tear it away? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: OT: Other Pentax News
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. (7750) aims to strengthen its endoscope business by teaming up with TeraRecon Inc. snip Thanks for the inside scoop... ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
GFM survey; film v digital.
Mark Roberts wrote: Some more tidbits: 104 people (out of about 160 present) completed the survey for us. 46% were first-timers at GFM. 12.5% have never used a digital camera. 40% own a DSLR. 32.7% very much want a digital contest next year. 19.2% very much *don't* want a digital contest next year. 54% do half or more of their photography in digital now. 15.4% do virtually all of their photography in digital now. Is MF included in this, or was this a 35mm film v digital survey only? Malcolm
Re: OT: Other Pentax News
There usually are... From some of the recent discussion I suppose they could help Keppler. Frantisek Vlcek wrote: ban TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. (7750) aims to strengthen its ban endoscope business by teaming up with TeraRecon Inc. Pentax endoscope anyone? There could be some at Ebay :) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: GFM survey; film v digital.
Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Some more tidbits: 104 people (out of about 160 present) completed the survey for us. 46% were first-timers at GFM. 12.5% have never used a digital camera. 40% own a DSLR. 32.7% very much want a digital contest next year. 19.2% very much *don't* want a digital contest next year. 54% do half or more of their photography in digital now. 15.4% do virtually all of their photography in digital now. Is MF included in this, or was this a 35mm film v digital survey only? It was a survey regarding shooting preferences, digital use, digital experience, printing habits, software use, etc. Neither Manual Focus nor Medium Format entered into any of the questions. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:29:52 PM, Jostein wrote: J If you ever consider buying, say, a 300/2.8 or a 70-200/2.8, it actually pays of J to take a flight to NYC, buy it there and fly back. J The FA*300/2.8, for example, is four plane tickets cheaper at BH than in Norway J or Sweden. :-) *see the World, make your buying abroad* ;-) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: SV: Casio/Pentax
PS Digital are pretty much generic. Many of the companies sell each others cameras with just a sightly different case on it. Some are made by companies who do not put their name on them at all but only sell them through 3rd party (quite often big name) vendors. -- Jens Bladt wrote: I have read that a great many digital cameras are of Sanyo origin... Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. juni 2004 16:50 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Casio/Pentax on 16.06.04 16:44, Collin Brendemuehl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's also remember that there are only so many semiconductor fabricators out there. Open up a Canon or Nikon and you'll find other names as well. Well, my friend was at service point with his friend who borught Canon Digital Ixus for reparation. Technician disassembled camera at their presence - most parts (including lens!) were made by... Sony :-) It really suprised me, I thought that at least lens would be made by Canon... -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: GFM survey; film v digital.
Mark Roberts wrote: It was a survey regarding shooting preferences, digital use, digital experience, printing habits, software use, etc. Neither Manual Focus nor Medium Format entered into any of the questions. Thanks Mark. Malcolm
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
fotokoch.org (beeing not the cheapest online shop) sells them both for 479,- Euro = 575,- USD. Cheers, Heiko WAY overpriced for the 18-35 which sells for ~$200.00 US here. Bill
Re: GFM survey; film v digital.
Mark, What are the odds that there will be a digital contest next year? Will it be combined with film or it's own? -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, June 17, 2004, 1:26:35 PM, you wrote: MR Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Some more tidbits: 104 people (out of about 160 present) completed the survey for us. 46% were first-timers at GFM. 12.5% have never used a digital camera. 40% own a DSLR. 32.7% very much want a digital contest next year. 19.2% very much *don't* want a digital contest next year. 54% do half or more of their photography in digital now. 15.4% do virtually all of their photography in digital now. Is MF included in this, or was this a 35mm film v digital survey only? MR It was a survey regarding shooting preferences, digital use, digital MR experience, printing habits, software use, etc. Neither Manual Focus nor MR Medium Format entered into any of the questions.
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
Isn't the 18-35 more like $170? CW - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler fotokoch.org (beeing not the cheapest online shop) sells them both for 479,- Euro = 575,- USD. Cheers, Heiko WAY overpriced for the 18-35 which sells for ~$200.00 US here. Bill --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 6/16/2004
Bulb shaped grip
amita I use one of these with my voigtlander 12mm [stops me getting my fingers in the picture] Buy from www.photovillage.com in NYC for $25 [cheaper than cameraquest] Clive Antibes France
Re: OT: Other Pentax News
Man, that was straight from the bottom CW - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 3:49 PM Subject: Re: OT: Other Pentax News [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. (7750) aims to strengthen its endoscope business by teaming up with TeraRecon Inc. snip Thanks for the inside scoop... ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 6/16/2004
Three cheers for the rubberband man!
Lets all give a hearty hurrah for Mark, GFM's rubber-band man. He provided one and all with nifty little rubber-bands to keep our pesky eye-cups on the camera! What a nice guy... CW --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 6/16/2004
FS Friday- Pentax flash clearance
Hi All Have following for sale: AF 280T Battery grip Hot shoe lead for grip Screw in sync lead for grip [can never remember numbers for these] AFT1 tele adapter Sunpak 422D with PT-1D [LX] module AF 400FTZ AF 240FT I do paypal, contact me if you're interested and we can haggle. Clive Antibes France
Re: OT: Other Pentax News
TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. (7750) aims to strengthen its endoscope business by teaming up with TeraRecon Inc. This is one instance where, given the choice, I would opt to use the model with smallest max aperture. Chaso = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
RE: OT: Other Pentax News
I made a Video twenty years ago (wat the time when the LX was news) using a Pentax Endoscope, which I borrowed from a Danish Pentax rep. We made a video showing a walk through town using an endoscope and a architectural scale model of a proposed townscape. Only problem was the circular pictures :-) Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Frantisek Vlcek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juni 2004 21:40 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: OT: Other Pentax News ban TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. (7750) aims to strengthen its ban endoscope business by teaming up with TeraRecon Inc. Pentax endoscope anyone? There could be some at Ebay :) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
WTB: pentax flash AF160
Hi, I am looking for the pear-shaped Pentax AF160 flash. Please, only the version with power-saving circuitry. Anyone here with an extra? Thanks! Good light, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
- Original Message - From: Kristian Walsh Subject: Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler . It's ironic that we only started to get good quality (cheap) prints from C41 film when the all-digital labs arrived :-) Sorry, but this statement is beyond bullshit. You are just plain and simply wrong. William Robb I'm not sure I completely disagree with her on that. While I do believe, like you, that an analog printer in the hands of a skilled and properly trained technical will print noticeably better then a digital printer, most of them were at higher end minilabs. Once the drug store chains and big box mega-stores started doing 1 hr processing the price to develop and print a roll of film dropped almost in half. In my area it went from about $12 a roll for a 24 exposure single prints at the independents to $6.99 at the chains. The problem was that analog machines need technicians that understand color printing and are willing to put the effort into it. The programming in the new digital machines does a much better job at color and density setting on automatic then the older analog machines, and the technicians at most chains are going to print on full automatic most of the time. You could build an analog printer with better programming, but I don't see enough of a market for any manufacturer to seriously consider it. So, if we're defining good quality as decent color and density and cheap as $6.99 a roll or 39 a reprint, then she has a point. I'm currently printing on an analog machine, a Fuji SFA 250, and am slowly building my business by 1) good and consistent quality prints, 2) good customer service, and 3) good photographic knowledge. But given the consumer shift to digital I'd jump at a chance to get a Frontier, even though we currently offer prints from digital media via our Fuji PrintPix and Aladdin. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: GFM survey; film v digital.
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the odds that there will be a digital contest next year? Will it be combined with film or it's own? Plans are for next year to be film only. Things in the world of photography are changing too fast to make any predictions about the following year :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: canon vs pentax
Earlier John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what did she buy for an upgrade from the ME Super? Canon Rebel. Kit... Now, a couple of years later, she has added the Digital Rebel as her primary camera, which came with an 18-55 kit lens. Since part of this thread talks about lens compatibility I'll toss this in here. (Don't remember if it's been said yet.) My local camera dealer was lamenting that the Canon 18-55mm zoom that comes with the 300D will only fit the 300D. You can't put it on a 10D or any of the other canon bodies. It has something to do with some sort of a wedge shaped protrusion on the rear of the lens that fits into a hollowed out area inside the mount. I don't know if he was kidding, but he seemed pretty serious. See you later, gs
Re: canon vs pentax
That's right - it's a new mount, EF-S (as opposed to the normal EF mount) David My local camera dealer was lamenting that the Canon 18-55mm zoom that comes with the 300D will only fit the 300D.
Re: OT: Montreal photo equipment shop recommendations
Chaso, Simons is a great photo shop in downtown Montreal. I was there in 2002, and they had plenty of Pentax stuff. They are online, but the inventory of used stuff is very incomplete; it concentrates on Leica and MF gear. http://www.simonscameras.com/contact/index.asp There are many other shops worth visiting as well; check out the yellow pages and use a map to plot your path. There are about a half-dozen in a small area. I recommend you start at Simons. Good luck. Jim www.jcolwell.ca
Shops for used Pentax in Washington DC
Can anybody recommend some good shops for used Pentax gear in Washington DC and Arlington VA area ? Thanks, Jim www.jcolwell.ca
FS Friday
Something for the Brotherhood: SMC Pentax Skylight 1a filter, 67 mm., for 6x7. This is new in box, but the box is old and I guess this is new old stock. This filter is really new and has clearly never been on a lens. A beauty. $25.00. And still for sale at reduced prices: FA PowerZoom 28-105 F4.0-5.6. Ex or EX+ by KEH standards. KEH sells them for $126. This one is $90. It is truly a lot of lens for $90. Pentax AF 400T turnip-masher flash, with bracket. GN 130 (in feet). EX or EX+. KEH sells them from $189 to $205. Yours for $125. Sigma 70-300 AF APO Macro F4.0-5.6. This is the apochromatic version, and it yields quite sharp images. The macro capability if quite handy. KEH had one recently in EX+ for $133. This one is like new with original box, bag, shade, papers, all for $90. Olympus Varimagni Right Angle Finder. This one fits Pentax cameras (at least since the PZ-1p, including the *ist D). It has 1.2 and 2.5x magnification, and shifts between landscape and portrait mode. I'd keep it, but since I wear glasses it is just too difficult for me. $75, or make me a reasonable offer. And the surprise: Arsat 35 mm. F2.8 shift/tilt in K-mount. This one came directly from the factory in the Ukraine (where the K-mount attachment was put on specifically to fill my order) and is still in like new condition. Here's your chance to own a genuine tilt/shift lens for a fraction of the price of a Japanese one. It is sharp, sturdy, and well made. These go for $360 on eBay. Yours for $200. Prices are exclusive of shipping. Please email me off list if interested: jtainter at mindspring dot com Thanks, Joe
RE: Shops for used Pentax in Washington DC
You might try Ace in Sterling - http://www.acephoto.net/ tv -Original Message- From: Jim Colwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:14 PM To: pdml Subject: Shops for used Pentax in Washington DC Can anybody recommend some good shops for used Pentax gear in Washington DC and Arlington VA area ? Thanks, Jim www.jcolwell.ca
RE: The Last Two Days
This is just about the cutest shot I've yet to see from gfm - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2452756 tv -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I used the Leica for daytime shots. Here are a few snaps from the last two days (most of them on Sunday): http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=406131
Pentax advertising slogans - Was: Pentax Mid-term Management Plan
Peter observed; How should I put this, close but no cigar. Or in other words don't quit your day job. Hi Peter, Wouldn't dream of it. That'd change it from 5 minutes of PS'ing to something my mortgage depended on. ...but while we're on the subject, what sort of an advertising slogan is Reliable gear for your travels (IIRC) ? I mean, it's not very emphatic, and it's a little odd having a slogan for what is predominantly an optical company that doesn't mention the optics. If all you want is reliable, use a pinhole camera. If they were a vehicle manufacturer they'd probably have something like Our cars have wheels Considering their market share I'd go for something more daring. Something like (to paraphrase a recent historical figure) It's all about the glass stupid Then again, I'm not going to give up my day job. Have there been any Pentax slogans that have been any good? Cheers, Simon Simon King wrote: Babelfish sucks. I don't know why so many people use it. I'm not so sure, I found this from an 1986 Pentax advertising campaign. Did we only see this in Australia? http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/1986/1986pentax.htm Cheers, Simon How should I put this, close but no cigar. Or in other words don't quit your day job.
Re: canon vs pentax
- Original Message - From: George Sinos Subject: Re: canon vs pentax My local camera dealer was lamenting that the Canon 18-55mm zoom that comes with the 300D will only fit the 300D. You can't put it on a 10D or any of the other canon bodies. It has something to do with some sort of a wedge shaped protrusion on the rear of the lens that fits into a hollowed out area inside the mount. This is true. Think of it as the Canon version of the DA mount. The major difference is that with the DA mount, you can use it on a film body, provided you don't mind a cropped negative. I believe the 16-45 will actually cover the 35mm neg from around 24mm and longer. William Robb
Re: Opinions: A35/2 vs K30/2.8
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: Opinions: A35/2 vs K30/2.8 You don't have a 31LTD then? Well, yes. But thats why I am no longer looking for a 30mm lens. William Robb
Re: OT: Other Pentax News
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: OT: Other Pentax News Give me time to digest this, as find this thread very intestine : Cotty, Aren't you already on the Digest? William Robb
Re: IS in Pentax *istD (was Re: canon vs pentax)
have you used any Canon IS equipment, particularly their binoculars? you still haven't said anything that says a pendulum isn't an accelerometer. it measures acceleration and does something. the gyros inside Olympus equipment for IS also measure acceleration and does something. all Canon has done is have it do the detection mechanically. however, since having IS enabled uses a lot of power from the camera body, that something is power actuated, even if it is mechanically controlled. Herb - Original Message - From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:21 AM Subject: Re: IS in Pentax *istD (was Re: canon vs pentax) The above is based on the IS explanation in the Canon lens guide. An accelerometer based system would measure the camera movement and calculate the required compensation then servo motors (or some other type of device) would attempt to make that compensation. IMO that would be a mess. The Canon system is simple and elegant at the same time. I do wonder what sacrifices are being made in the design of the optics to make it work. I don't know if there is a difference in sharpness between IS lenses with IS turned off and non IS lenses. It would be interesting to find out.
Question: Minilab processing of digital files
Sometime soon, perhaps at Christmas, I will get my wife a digital point-and-shoot. She would not want to do image editing or printing, just take the SD card to a minilab. With most of my *ist D images, I have to use Photoshop's Auto Levels to get the image to the full light-level gamut. Otherwise the images are a bit muddy. My wife is not going to do this with her images. So I wonder: If you take unprocessed jpeg images on a CF or SD card to a minilab, does the machine perform something like Auto Levels? Or do the images just come out muddy? Wheatfield, Butch, or anyone? Thanks, Joe
RE: Steep Grade
Hi Ann, Fantastic shot! I love the way the icons and symbols draw the eye around the image. Having both the cars in the gloom - one emerging and one leaving is perfect - did you plan that? Thanks for sharing Simon annsan writes: Here is one more - if I can get all my chorse done before I depart I'll do an HTML instead of the sep jpgs... http://users.rcn.com/annsan/steepgrade.jpg
Re: canon vs pentax
This is true. Think of it as the Canon version of the DA mount. The major difference is that with the DA mount, you can use it on a film body, provided you don't mind a cropped negative. I believe the 16-45 will actually cover the 35mm neg from around 24mm and longer. Indeed, except Canon already have non-full frame DSLRs (10D, D60, D30 etc) that their new mount will _not_ work on. Of course, one could say they'll work on as many previous Canon DSLRs before the 300D, as DA lenses will on Pentax DSLRs before the *istD Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Director of Development, eyeon Software
