Re: Another Limited lens
On 13 Sep 2004 at 22:07, Alan Chan wrote: > I imagine the DA40/2.8 would be so cheap they must think why not? It draws > attention and won't cost much. But I much prefer they don't call it "Limited" > unless the whole thing was made of metal. As to the normal shooting range, I > think they have tried to cover with a few zooms which most people would buy > anyway. Limited sounds about right, limited appeal, limited ergonomics, limited image quality (I assume its a classic Tessar design), just what were they thinking? Obviously not about a nice medium wide (~24mm) fast lens for their digital lens line up :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Printing Question
On the other hand, a set of color compensating (cc) filters isn't very expensive., and they can be used in almost any enlarger. They go right in the filter drawer. The same place you would put your contrast filters that you use when printing on multigrade paper. When Cibachrome was introduced some thirty years ago, you could buy a kit that included the paper, a roller tank, the chemistry, and the cc filters for a rather reasonable price. I think Ilford bought the technology and continued to market it as Ilfochrome. It was a reversal process that produced high contrast, high saturation color prints from transparencies. I tried it a few times. I still have some of the prints. They were quite nice and apparently long lasting. You might still be able to buy an ilfochrome kit. I'm sure you can buy cc filters. Kodak also has a reversal process called Type R. I'm not sure if the chemistry and paper are widely available However. Warning, the ilfochrome/Cibachrome chemistry is very nasty stuff. Legend has it that the guy who invented Cibachrome died from overexposure to the chemistry. Could be an urban legend, but having sniffed it quite a bit, I can believe it. Paul On Sep 13, 2004, at 10:10 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Peter J. Alling advised: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: I don't know whether this is a strange question or not ... Assuming I don't want to make any changes to the colours I see on the slide, can I print from a slide using an enlarger designed for black-and-white (i.e. one that doesn't have the set of colour-printing filter)? Sorry it won't work that way, you'll still need to compensate for difference in the color sensitivities in the paper batch. Oh well, at least my question had a simple answer. Thank you. I had a feeling it wouldn't be that easy, but figured I had to ask just in case. -- Glenn
Re: Another Limited lens
It appears to be very similar to the M 40/2.8. On Sep 14, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote: Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Alan Chan wrote: smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/ prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/ enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
On Sep 14, 2004, at 10:49 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Me too, buffer is better but they can stick the SD card up their Rs. I've just had a read of the DPReview preview. Biggest pluses for me: USB2.0 (the article mentions a FireWire port later on but as this isn't listed in the specifications I'll take it as a typo) Faster flash sync They didn't skimp on the viewfinder And they kept DOF preview. Minuses: No program lines... although I doubt that will be a problem considering it does still have aperture and shutter priority modes. The size... it does look awfully small. It'd be interesting to see one with the new 40mm Limited lens. I think I'll buy one if the NZ distributors don't go creaming the price. I might even sell my LX to help fund it. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
On Sep 14, 2004, at 1:45 AM, John Francis wrote: But you weren't beside me at Laguna Seca in turn 4 in 2000 (I believe) listening to my PZ-1p rewind when all of a sudden Paul Tracy lost it, bounced across the gravel trap, and went into the tyre barrier. No, but I was. It was a frightening moment. Didn't even have time to think about my LX on the tripod. And my lens was way too long to get the shot. My full attention was fixed on saving my butt..
*ist D AF problems? Sigma compatibility issues?
So while my ist D's been away being looked at for AF inaccuracy, I found someone else on the dpreview forums (same camera, same lens- Sigma EX 28-70 2.8 DF, same country!) in my shoes! What are the chances. So we talked on the phone for a bit trying to figure out what to do next, and came to the conclusion it was now in the hands of CR Kennedy for now.. Here's the post: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028&message=10246357 At first he thought it was just the one lens, but it appears he's found focusing problems with some other Sigma lenses too. Now, realising that this could turn into a bag out Sigma fest, I must add, though, that my 28-70 2.8 has been giving nothing less than outstanding performance on my film body. Anyway, here's the thread: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028&message=10263599 and here are the tests (Sigma 28-70 2.8 DF, 105 2.8 Macro, 50 2.8 Macro, 70-300 4-5.6 Apo Macro super): http://www.pbase.com/wallyoz/tests Anyone else have time to test (http://md.co.za/d70/ Tim Jackson's focusing test chart) couple of Pentax and Sigma lenses for a bigger sample? Regards, Ryan
RE: *istDs and SD cards
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:31:03 +0100, Rob Brigham wrote: >I actually think the istDs is pitched just about as well as Pentax could >have done in my opinion. The SD card thing will stop me seriously >considering it any time soon, but then again I don't really need it >anyway. Might have considered it as a backup if it took the same cards >and was REALLY cheap though. I am actually thinking of the Optio MX4 for taking macro movies. This takes the SD cards and because I am looking at movies I would buy large capacity cards. I may have to invest in one of those adaptors. I've seen a few things in the *istDS that I would like to see as firmwear upgrades in the *istD, like histogram view as default in preview mode and defining the startup zoom magnification, but I'm going to stick with the *istD for now. >What ultimately stops me though is that I am looking for the istD to >become my backup and my primary to have a larger sensor and better feel. >I pick up my MZ-S to feel joy, but pick up the istD to take pictures. This is my plan exactly. I have situations where 6 Mpixels is the right amount, but there are times I would like a bit more - 10 or 12. I'm keeping one MZ-S for film until it's no longer available, then it will go on display in my camera cabinet. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:33:20 +0200, Antonio wrote: > >Anyone know if the K-lens compatibility is improved on the *istDs? The spec mention the "K-lenses' can be used with some limitations. The same custom-function to allow the shutter to fire with non-A setting is also there. However, there is no "green-button" so I am not sure how you would trigger the metering with a K lens ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
RE: Metz SCA 374/2 AF M1 Pentax question
Hi Henk thanks for answering both of my questions . It saved my and the adapters life :-) I heard that the adapter needs a newer revision to work with all Pentaxes, but should work with the SFX-series. I will have to try. I have that general adapter manual from Metz, thanks a lot for your kind offer. greetings Markus > > Markus, > > I used to have a 374/2 adapter and (if I recall correctly) SB was > spotbeam (i.e. to use the red sensor light for AF measurement but the > flash not triggered by the camera). The middle position was for first > curtain synchronisation (which is standard) and the right position for > second curtain (for moving subjects). > To replace the batteries you have to switch a plate horizontally. I > remember this moved very stiff with a heavy spring to the batteries. I > found the red sensor light of the 374/2 not always working well and > changed to a 3701 in combination with the 32MZ-3. > > Henk >
RE: Metz SCA 374/2 AF M1 Pentax question
Hi Sven thanks very much. It is exactly as you have written, you saved my and the adapters life! very helpful... Markus > Subject: AW: Metz SCA 374/2 AF M1 Pentax question > > > Markus, > > IIRC, the whole rear 'panel' is supposed to slide away and the > "s.b" switch > (whatever that stands for) makes the adapter work as an AF assist > lamp only, > without triggering the flash. > > Sven > > > > -Ursprungliche Nachricht- > Von: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Montag, 13. September 2004 18:51 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Metz SCA 374/2 AF M1 Pentax question > > > > Hi Pentax users > > I got a new Metz SCA 374/2 flash adapter for my Pentax SFXn from > Ebay but it > did not come with a manual > and there are no manuals at www.metz.de for these SCA adapters to download > and I did not find any information > in a google search. > > The adapter seems to need four batteries but I am simple too > stupid to find > out how to open that battery > case "thing" without using force. > > Can anybody help me by showing how to place batteries into (open) this > adapter and > maybe explain the switch "S.B" too? What's the "default" or > "best" setting. > > I think Jens has one of these adapters, do you hear me Jens ? > > thanks in advance > Markus > >
Re: PAW: Leaves
Hi! > Another shot from the botanical garden: > > http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/album/view.php?i=5 Attila, it is competent, this image, but just like those of myself it begs this question - what is the center of interest here? I look around and it is even difficult to find one leave that is fully in the frame... It is quite nice but it is inconclusise so to say... I hope this reply will not be the only one in this thread... Boris
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
They could use the AE-L button instead... Alex Sarbu --- Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:33:20 +0200, Antonio wrote: > > > > >Anyone know if the K-lens compatibility is improved > on the *istDs? > > The spec mention the "K-lenses' can be used with > some limitations. > > The same custom-function to allow the shutter to > fire > with non-A setting is also there. > > However, there is no "green-button" so I am not sure > how > you would trigger the metering with a K lens ... > > Regards, JvW > > > -- > Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery > > > ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
I think the uncluttered body will appeal to many. Not to me (I usually need to change settings via hard switches, not button+colour LCD, which draws too much attention to you when it lights up) though. Still, for the intended market, it looks great. Good they kept the big viewfinder! SD cards may be gaining popularity, although the CF is IMO the best format (most physically rugged and about the right size for not misplacing it). But also Leica has only SD cards in their new digital R back. Fra
Re: Another Limited lens
Wouldn't this be a decent portrait length for APS-class Digital? My only wish is that the optical quality is better than the 43/1.9 with its barrel issues. If this is just another Tessar it will be average, but if it's optimized for digital imaging then it might really sell the bodies. (Like software selling computers.) Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: OT: Bill's NoLogo Strat-was: black cloaking tape
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:48:55 -0400, you wrote: >I recall Vantage guitars. Used to work in a music store way back when. > >IIRC, they were Japanese solid bodies; Did the more expensive ones >have a neck-through-body design (a la B.C Rich)? Yes, the more expensive ones did. Mine isn't one pf those. :) >I also wonder if they were the ones that came standard with DiMarzio pickups? Could be. I replaces the pickup in mine with an EMG active pickup. *Very* nice unit. >I remember some of the guitar and bass players that worked at the >store saying that the sound and quality was somewhat variable, but >that if one looked, a real nice playing guitar/bass could be found >among them. Yep. They play nice and where the manufacturer skimped was in the bolt-on components like the tuning machines and bridges. I eventually replaced just about everything but the wood on mine! But every time I went into the studio, the engineer would express amazement at the great sound from this bass they'd never heard of before.
Re[2]: PAW: Leaves
Hello boris, > Attila, it is competent, this image, but just like those of myself it begs this > question - what is the center of interest here? I look around and it is even > difficult to find one leave that is fully in the frame... I can count tree. > It is quite nice but it is inconclusise so to say... Maybe I should crop it, but don't know how. Attila
Re: OT: Bill's NoLogo Strat
Hi guys, While you're on this, would you happen to know anything about mini-humbuckers? Was thinking of replacing the pickup on my Yamaha AEX 500. Took a look at Seymour Duncan, but you can't really tell without playing with it, can you?' Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:40 AM Subject: Re: OT: Bill's NoLogo Strat-was: black cloaking tape > On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:48:55 -0400, you wrote: > > >I recall Vantage guitars. Used to work in a music store way back when. > > > >IIRC, they were Japanese solid bodies; Did the more expensive ones > >have a neck-through-body design (a la B.C Rich)? > > Yes, the more expensive ones did. Mine isn't one pf those. :) > > >I also wonder if they were the ones that came standard with DiMarzio pickups? > > Could be. I replaces the pickup in mine with an EMG active pickup. > *Very* nice unit. > > >I remember some of the guitar and bass players that worked at the > >store saying that the sound and quality was somewhat variable, but > >that if one looked, a real nice playing guitar/bass could be found > >among them. > > Yep. They play nice and where the manufacturer skimped was in the > bolt-on components like the tuning machines and bridges. I eventually > replaced just about everything but the wood on mine! > But every time I went into the studio, the engineer would express > amazement at the great sound from this bass they'd never heard of > before. > > >
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Come on, people! The *ist-DS is the digital version of the MZ-6! But, unlike the MZ-6, it has a good viewfinder... (that's my main compliant regarding MZ-6) Now I hate Pentax; they really wants to take my money :( In fact, I don't think I'll buy the *ist-DS (I don't want to switch to digital yet). But maybe, if they'll make a battery grip for it and if it's compatible with K/M lenses... Alex Sarbu ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Me too, buffer is better but they can stick the SD card up their Rs. > >I can't see many *ist D owners running out to buy one as a back-up body. Well of *course* not! They don't *want* ist-D owners to buy the cheaper camera! It's meant for an entirely different target audience: People who want a "high end" camers (DSLR) but don't even know what mirror lock-up is. People who like the idea of interchangable lenses but who care less about lens compatibility than memory card compatibility (the intended buyer for this camera probably already owns a high end digicam and has a pocketful of SD cards).
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Cotty wrote: > >> It's aimed at would-be 300D >> owners! > >Nope. That SD thingie suggests it's aimed at Optio users. Even better: It's aimed at Nikon/Canon/Minolta digiam owners!
Oahu Photo Suggestions
Hi Everyone, I will be travelling to Honolulu for a week, leaving this Saturday. I will be taking my istD and was wondering if anyone had some suggestions for where to go? I want to get out and explore the entire island. Hoping to get some shots of surfers, etc. I plan on going to Pearl Harbor as well. Thanks in advance for any suggestions! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes)
> Has anybody used > the Sigma 300/4 with an AF x1.4 teleconverter, and if yes, then > which one and how well does the AF work ? Yes used the Sigma 300 f/4 with the Sigma EX 1.4x TC and it worked very well, focusing was quite quick considering the focal length, the Sigma comes equipped with a limit switch which helps. The Sigma is an internal focusing lens and the focal length changes with the focused distance, at infinity (according to reports) it is 326mm making it 456mm with the 1.4x TC. 450mm f/5.6 John -- Original Message --- From: "Jim Colwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:54:54 -0300 Subject: Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes) > Thanks to all for your comments on AF 400mm lenses. > > I hadn't thought of using a teleconverter on a 300/4. Maybe I > should also consider a FA-200/2.8 with a x2 teleconverter. I have a > Pentax Rear Converter-A 2X-S, and rarely use it (OTOH, I use the > 1.4X-L and 2X-L on my SMCP 500/4.5 quite often). Has anybody used > the Sigma 300/4 with an AF x1.4 teleconverter, and if yes, then > which one and how well does the AF work ? > > Doug's comments agree with the information that I've found, but it's > always best to get the opinion of somebody who has actually used all > of the lenses being compared. The off-warranty repair work is a > good recommendation for Sigma. --- End of Original Message ---
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
It reminds me of the ME-Super... not that much features, but small and working. Fra
Re: Another Limited lens
I just don't get what the idiots were thinking... 40mm pancake for 1.5x crop digital?!? 60mm pancake? Nice, but the thing that was missing was 40mm EQUIVALENT pancake... THAT would be nice. OTOH, Tessar formula can be made to be the best lens, if utilised with the right glasses... look at Leica Elmarit and Cosina Heliar (both of which are similar to Tessar design), Nikkor 40/2.8, and some old process Apo-Tessars. All of these are among the best lenses ever. I still don't understand why they didn't make it like 26mm/2.6 or such... equivalent of the classical 40mm pancake. As it is, it's just a one-off item to collectors, not for users...Not that useful for portraits (as it will have DOF of a 40mm lens, not the 60mm equivalent). fra
Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes)
> That combination DOES suffer a bit from chromatic-abberations in > high-contrast scenes, but that is not just the TC, the lens does that > all by itself as well I thought it was APO? shouldn't have chromatic-abberation should it? John -- Original Message --- From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:09:03 +0200 (CDT) Subject: Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes) > Hi John, > > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:05:47 -0400 (EDT), John Francis wrote: > > > > >I'm really glad to see this discussion. As I've described in another thread, > >I have run into a slight problem with my current long telephoto setup, and > > I have been using the A* 300mm f/2.8 with the 1.7AF too, > and have not been bothered by the 'central sensor' only. > However, that is simply my style of shooting anyway. > > But it IS a heavy beast for sure. > > >might want to consider enabling myself with an AF 300 or 400 mm lens. I'm > >also considering being kind to myself and my aging legs, and settling for > >a 300/f4 or a 400/f5.6; these could also share filters with the 80-200/f2.8 > > I got myself a slightly beaten up (Pentax-NL DEMO model) FA* 400mm f/5.6 > and must say I really love it. I have been shooting a lot of hand- > held with that on the *istD, as well as monopod or tripod usage. > > It is light, focuses pretty fast (and amazingly close for a 400mm). > > It is much like the FA* 200mm f/2.8, just a bit longer and with a > tripod mount. > > >As another poster has mentioned, a 300 with a 1.4x TC could be tempting. > > I do have the Sigma 1.4EX but have not used it on the FA* 400 yet due > to a mechanical problem that hit the 1.4 TC a few months back ... > > I have been using it with the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX zoom and it > works fine there, without much quality loss. > That combination DOES suffer a bit from chromatic-abberations in > high-contrast scenes, but that is not just the TC, the lens does that > all by itself as well :-) > > Regards, JvW > > -- > Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery --- End of Original Message ---
Re: Re[2]: PAW: Leaves
Hi! > > I look around and it is even > > difficult to find one leave that is fully in the frame... > I can count tree. I did not say they were not there all together :). > > It is quite nice but it is inconclusise so to say... > Maybe I should crop it, but don't know how. I cannot help you on this one. I cannot come up with any reasonable crop. But recently I've been having hard time cropping my stuff, so I should shut up, I suppose. Did you make more shots on same location that day? Boris
Re: black cloaking tape (was: Re: istD in style)
While Paul's original "fondler" comment irked me, I also understood what was being referenced. There are "fondlers" of all camera brands ... as well as other objects. What irked me the most were comments by Cotty, greywolf (sorry, your names come to mind most readily), and some others, who seemed to be judgmental and critical of Juan's preference for taping his PENTAX, and then of some Leica photogs for taping their cameras. These are the same people who customize their gear, or maybe put fancy wheels on their cars, or perhaps buy expensive sun glasses, etc. IIRC, one of these folks critical of those putting tape over the Leica red dot had at one time complained about the red Pentax logo strap, and noted that he used the strap in such a way that the logo didn't show. WTF difference is there between that act and a piece of tape over a red dot? BTW, as a parenthetical aside, Leica made a black dot for a while. Many people did not/do not care for that red dot at all! Many of us modify our gear so it suits us better, or makes it more enjoyable for us to use. We've been doing things like that since we were kids, sticking cards in the spokes of our bicycles, or putting streamers on the handlebars, or bedecking them with reflectors or decals. How many here have something in or on their car that has modified it from stock? We wear clothes that make a statement as to who we are ... some prefer a subdued look, others something with more flair and color. Some here have tattoos, others would never consider such decoration. It's all personal preference. Photo.net, as Paul mentioned, is but one small segment of the Leica population on the internet. The LUG, the LEG, the Leica forum where we sometimes post, and even the Pentax list, are filled with many other Leica users who are not collectors or pretenders, but, as you've said, serious photographers, whether amateur or pro, and no one seems to complain about the quality of their photographs being diminished by their use of tape to cover the red dot or not (Ohh, this photo would have been so much better had that red dot been / not been taped over). I seem to recall one Leica user on this list having recently posted a pic of his old M with quite a bit of tape on it. Got a few Ooohs and Ahhs from list members. There are always going to be users with different preferences. Some take pride in how beat up their cameras are, others love the new look and feel, and some want nothing more than to make their cameras more of a personal statement to get full enjoyment from them. Look, when you spend as much as we do for our gear, and photograph in remarkably dissimilar situations, it's quite understandable to want your camera to reflect your taste and perhaps be modified to better suit its use. Juan rejoined the list, and shared with us that he'd gotten an istd in an open and friendly way, only to have his decision to tape the logo criticized by Cotty, whether tongue in cheek or not. The result of that post got others, like lemmings, to offer their reasons why those who choose to use tape are pretentious or fondlers, or just plain nuts. What a fine, welcoming greeting from those who claim this is a friendly, warm, and welcoming list. FEH! Maybe there should be some tape placed over the mouths of some list members ... maybe even mine . OK, I'm done. No more from me on this subject. Shel "People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 9/13/2004 7:42:42 AM > Subject: Re: black cloaking tape (was: Re: istD in style) > > On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:22:19 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've spent quite a bit of time on PhotoNets Leica forum, and I still go there occasionally. There's a certain breed of Leica owner that is frequently seen at that site that tends to raise my hackles. "Fondler" is perhaps the wrong term because it does imply that I'm talking about serious collectors. "Pretender" would perhaps be a better word. The Leica owners that irritate me are those who are totally ignorant about photography but love to be seen with a Leica hanging around their neck. They assume that the camera will make them a great photographer, but that's not their real purpose. Being seen with the Leica is their purpose. They black tape it to show that they're part of the cognoscenti: real Leica photographers. They even hold endless debates about the proper method of disguising the red dot. A lot of the real Leica photographers have left that list, and I rarely go there anymore. > > > > But you're right. Leias are great, and I love them. I just hate to see them abused by a loud and mindless minority. But I won't mention it again. > > Hey, Paul, > > You can mention it again if you want. You know why? Because you're a > grandfather, and your entitled, damn it!! > > Seriously, I've not been on the Photo.net Leica Forum, so I've no
Re: Another Limited lens
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Alan Chan wrote: > smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited > > http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm My opinion? Sh*te. Just a curio. Kostas
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Rim shot. ;-) http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_s500.asp This is their smallest decent digicam. And *it is* very small. Takes CF. They do have some SD digicams - those in the $200 price range. Nikon is in about the same situation, SD for the entry level and CF from there up to the SLRs. Minolta ? Who is Minolta ? Is that a girl name ? Mark Roberts wrote: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cotty wrote: It's aimed at would-be 300D owners! Nope. That SD thingie suggests it's aimed at Optio users. Even better: It's aimed at Nikon/Canon/Minolta digiam owners!
Re: Mediocre Lenses ( wasRe: Takumar 85/1.8 price)
Oh, so he upgraded from his days as a lawyer ;-) Frantisek Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 7:14:28 PM, graywolf wrote: g> The took Frank vocabulary away when he quit law. Now he only knows 600 words. g> -- g> frank theriault wrote: >> On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:10:16 -0400, Peter J. Alling >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>They collect stamps Frank... >> >> >> Really!! >> >> Well, I learned something new today. I had no idea. >> >> Thanks, Peter, >> frank >> >> >>
Re: Grandpa Stenquist
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, mike wilson wrote: > Let us know if you do. I'm only about 120 miles away and there's at > least one PDMLer who is right on the door step. Congratulations, by the > way. That will be me. Congratulations Paul! Kostas
Re[4]: PAW: Leaves
> Did you make more shots on same location that day? Yes I did. They can be seen at http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/album/ It's not in it's final state, maybe I will rescan some of those, and there will be a couple more. Attila
Re: OT: Grandpa Waller (Was Grandpa Stenquist)
Congrats Ken! Kostas
RE: Limits of 6x7
Aaron Reynolds has a few 24x36(or somewere in that range)print samples hung on the store wall,from his 6x7. Done from scans and Epson printers. The detail is just beautiful. There is one from Fuji 800 speed film,i cannot see any grain. Kevin, if your doing them yourself in a darkroom, i think the enlarger can be turned around and projected on to the floor for larger prints,but you probably know that already.:-) Dave (waiting to do MF prints himself)Brooks >Shel penned: > Kevin, m'lad ... depends on many factors, including film used, degree of > accurate exposure, quality of processing, quality of gear (sharpness of > lenses, alignment of enlarger), viewing distance, etc. Let me say this: > I've viewed some 24x36 prints from Salgado made with 35mm TX that when > viewed from relatively close distances were outstanding in their detail and > sharpness (Cory Waters will attest to the quality). I've also seen > portions of a 35mm negative that were blown up to about eight feet wide > using a proprietary process and a Tango drum scanner that showed virtually > NO grain and superb sharpness and detail even when viewed close up (within > inches of the print!). > > However, if you can't get something nice at about 60-inches on the short > side from a 6x7 negative, your gear and your technique need serious > improvement. > > Shel > > > From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > What are the acceptable max enlargements for 6x7? > >
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Rim shot. ;-) > >http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_s500.asp > >This is their smallest decent digicam. And *it is* very small. Takes CF. >They do have some SD digicams - those in the $200 price range. > >Nikon is in about the same situation, SD for the entry level and CF from >there up to the SLRs. Yes, you can find exceptions like these, but they *are* exceptions. SD is now the largest selling memory card format.
Re: *istDs and SD cards
Rob, just as in the film world you have different capacities and formats, also in the digital world. Get over it. If you dont like SD dont buy it. A. On 14/9/04 11:31 am, "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is more the capacity of the SD cards in my opinion. > > I am 100% convinced CF is here to stay as the 'standard' for DSLRs. > > Take an extreme example of the EOS 1Ds or the Kodak 14n - how many > images do you think you would get on a 1Gb CF card then? Now look at > the DSLRS pushing towards 8Mp as the second wave and suddenly this kind > of extreme storage doesn't look so extreme anymore. > > Sure SD cards will grow in capacity, but so will the data storage > requirements of Digicams as the Megapixel race continues. > > People seem to be suggesting that the difference between CF and SD in > terms of price will dissappear because SD cards are getting bigger and > cheaper. Well what do you suppose CF cards have been doing and will > continue to do while this happens? > > I was surprised to see mini-SD the other day - where did this come from? > Maybe SD is dead too in that case? > > I still think that in DSLR land the space saving of SD over CF is almost > pointless in all but the extreme compacts. I still think they could > have put CF into the istDs - just that they chose not to because of the > market segment they were looking at. > > PDAs, MP3s and Phones size is a major issue because they need to be > pocketable and the card makes up a more significant percentage of the > size - some MP3 players are little bigger than the card+battery. > > You are never going to have a pocketable DSLR using APS sensors so this > is not at all comparable. > > > I actually think the istDs is pitched just about as well as Pentax could > have done in my opinion. The SD card thing will stop me seriously > considering it any time soon, but then again I don't really need it > anyway. Might have considered it as a backup if it took the same cards > and was REALLY cheap though. > > What ultimately stops me though is that I am looking for the istD to > become my backup and my primary to have a larger sensor and better feel. > I pick up my MZ-S to feel joy, but pick up the istD to take pictures. > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Nenad Djurdjevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 14 September 2004 07:00 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: *istDs and SD cards >> >> >> I notice that a lot of people are concerned that the *istD >> and *istDs use different memory cards. I can understand if >> someone has made a big investment in CF cards that this would >> be annoying. However it is possible to buy a SD to CF >> adaptor for only a few dollars that allows SD cards to be >> used in the *istD. This makes CF cards redundant other than >> the fact that they are still cheaper than SD cards (at the >> moment). Most new cameras and in fact most electronic >> equipment now use SD cards (PDAs, phones, MP3 players, etc) >> and I think the CF card is on the way out. >> >> I have only one 512MB CF card for my *istD and in my case it >> makes more sense to buy SD cards in future. I shoot only >> jpeg and download to my harddrive often. If anything, my >> Optio 43WR point and shoot needs bigger cards than my *istD >> as it has 30fps 640x480 video that chews up memory space very >> quickly indeed. In fact I am about to buy a high speed 1GB >> SD card that I will be able to use in either camera. >> Supposedly the SD-CF adaptor slows down writing to the card >> but if so I haven't noticed. >> >> >
Re: Another Limited lens
Simple physics. 40mm is about the shortest lens that will clear the mirror box. Anything shorter than that needs to be a retrofocus design, and thus much larger. -- Frantisek wrote: I just don't get what the idiots were thinking... 40mm pancake for 1.5x crop digital?!? 60mm pancake? Nice, but the thing that was missing was 40mm EQUIVALENT pancake... THAT would be nice. OTOH, Tessar formula can be made to be the best lens, if utilised with the right glasses... look at Leica Elmarit and Cosina Heliar (both of which are similar to Tessar design), Nikkor 40/2.8, and some old process Apo-Tessars. All of these are among the best lenses ever. I still don't understand why they didn't make it like 26mm/2.6 or such... equivalent of the classical 40mm pancake. As it is, it's just a one-off item to collectors, not for users...Not that useful for portraits (as it will have DOF of a 40mm lens, not the 60mm equivalent). fra -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Another Limited lens
Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just don't get what the idiots were thinking... They were thinking that they could sell a *tiny" lens with excellent optical quality to go with their incredibly compact new DSLR... while investing virtually no R&D money into the project (assuming they're re-using the old M 40/2.8 optical formula and just scaling it down to a smaller image circle). They've obviously been paying attention to the selling prices of the old M40/2.8 on eBay.
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
And, without a doubt that is just the market it is aimed at. -- Bruce Dayton wrote: That is pretty much my take also. It looks very similar to my daughter's film *ist. She is a big candidate for it. I'm sure in the not too distant future I'll be getting one for her. The SD card situation for it does not bother me. I already got my backup *istD some time ago and am happy with my decision back then. I still prefer identical interfaces rather than two similar cameras. Bruce Monday, September 13, 2004, 5:57:35 PM, you wrote: C> My quick response: better = USB 2. faster FPS and bigger buffer. Larger C> LCD, faster synch, better sharpness, saturation and contrast range settings, C> apparently you can rotate pictures in camera and have the default display C> with the histogram overlay and has a blown-highlights indicator. C> not as good = no mirror lock up, doesn't look like it can take a vertical C> release/battery grip C> Stuff that doesn't worry me either way: SD cards, Picture modes. C> Exactly what I expected in a "budget" DSLR to compete with the 300D. Those C> of you thinking it was going to be a replacement for the current *ist D were C> insane. After all these years haven't you figured out how Pentax works? C> Honestly it looks like a *ist film body... C> What I'm hoping for as a result of this camera being released: firmware C> updates for the current D and new/updated browsing/RAW conversion software. C> Christian -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It reminds me of the ME-Super... not that much features, but small and >working. Good analogy. Cameras like the ME Super were sneered at by purists when they first appeared but they sold millions. Could the ist-SD be the ME Super of digital SLR's? Pentax could do a lot worse :)
Re: OT: Bill's NoLogo Strat-was: black cloaking tape
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:04:36 -0400, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Humm... Straight line or not, I like it. > > I might have burned in the body of guitar a bit myself (maybe it is fine > on the print though). All the detail needed to tell the story is right > there. More would just be distracting. > Tom, This is just a straight scan from a 4x6 quickprint. No manipulation of anything when it was printed or after the scan. Definitely the guitar needs burning, as it's far too hot right now. The print has some potential, but I only posted it to show my friend's Strat with the logos covered, not as an example of a good photo. I may work on it someday, though . cheers, frank -- "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
Re: Another Limited lens
Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 3:45:43 PM, Graywolf wrote: G> Simple physics. 40mm is about the shortest lens that will clear the G> mirror box. Anything shorter than that needs to be a retrofocus design, G> and thus much larger. Oh. I see. Dumb me :) I guess a shorter FL pancake could be made for the 300D and 20D, as they have the smaller mirror for EF-S mount (although I am not sure, I am not keen of browsing specifications of cameras I am not interested in). Good light! fra
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Jan van Wijk wrote: However, there is no "green-button" so I am not sure how you would trigger the metering with a K lens ... With a half-press of the shutter release, perhaps? After all, you won't be doing much autofocussing with a K lens... S
Re: *istDs and SD cards
Since, I understand that someone has just announced an 8gb SD card, I don't think that need be a concern for long. That will be real expensive I imagine. -- Rob Brigham wrote: The problem is more the capacity of the SD cards in my opinion. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: black cloaking tape (was: Re: istD in style)
Funny. Before reading this thread, I made an upgrade to the Leica with a progressive-design sticker... from some Japanese design expo. See here. Next version will have the sticker better placed to replace the red dot... http://members.chello.cz/fotof/temp/leica.jpg As a sidenote, black labeling old cameras really works. They usually go unnoticed even for a Leica. People who think that all who relabel their cameras are mad or bloated are just , well, [#$censored] :) Fra
Re: black cloaking tape (was: Re: istD in style)
ft> guitars as it's great publicity for them. But, since they don't pay ft> me to use their product, I refuse to give them free publicity." Well said. Applies to brand-logoed T-shirts wearers as well. Good light! fra
Re: Another Limited lens
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:48:26 -0400, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Well, it's so thin. If the M 2.8 40mm is a pancake, surely this will be the Crepe Lens. Actually, I hope Crepe Lens doesn't catch on - sounds too much like Crap Lens... I think it's very cool, but as someone else said, are they tainting the name "limited" by making a non metal lens? cheers, frank -- "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
Re: black cloaking tape (was: Re: istD in style)
>> 3) The owner is mad as a March hare. Surely that's the option that's the most becoming to me ;-) Good light! fra
Re: Another Limited lens
OUCH. Guess I won't be getting one after all. Of course i could still use it on my PZ1p but I prefer to be able to use a lens on all my Pentax bodies. Robert - Original Message - From: "Michel Carrère-Gée" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Another Limited lens > Robert Woerner a écrit : > > >Some of us still shoot film cameras like the MZ-S. Maybe we would like an AF > >pancake. Thank you Pentax. I'm gonna get one.TOO CL. > > > > > > > Ist DA lens, no aperture ring for MZ-S:-(( > >
Re: Boxes for batteries
On 13/9/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: >I take it you never shorted out a nicad with your keys. Some folks just >love to live dangerously. Some of us just have to learn the hard way (I >am referring to myself here, for those who take any comment as a >personal attack on them). Hey I still take that personally!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
I always thought that Canon & Nikon are mainstream and not the exceptions. I don't care about what kind of memory is used in Fukumoro brand cameras, MP3 players, voice recorders or cell phones. And BTW the largest selling memory format is DIMM. Just a bad morning here and feeling irreverent ;-) Mark Roberts wrote: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rim shot. ;-) http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_s500.asp This is their smallest decent digicam. And *it is* very small. Takes CF. They do have some SD digicams - those in the $200 price range. Nikon is in about the same situation, SD for the entry level and CF from there up to the SLRs. Yes, you can find exceptions like these, but they *are* exceptions. SD is now the largest selling memory card format.
Re: *istDs and SD cards
I think I'll wait until the *ist-Dn with the higher frame rate and better buffer management, (and maybe instantaneous stop down tv metering as an option). Steve Jolly wrote: Rob Brigham wrote: I actually think the istDs is pitched just about as well as Pentax could have done in my opinion. The SD card thing will stop me seriously considering it any time soon, but then again I don't really need it anyway. Might have considered it as a backup if it took the same cards and was REALLY cheap though. I think that Pentax would prefer you, and indeed anyone reading this particular mailing list, to fork out the extra for the *istD anyway. Which reinforces your claim that they pitched it perfectly, in my opinion. :-) S -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Another Limited lens
At least it has a better focus ring than the M. Sincerely, C.Brendemuehl "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: Another Limited lens
Looks more like the old 18mm fixed aperture fisheye Pentax made ages ago. Paul Stenquist wrote: It appears to be very similar to the M 40/2.8. On Sep 14, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote: Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Alan Chan wrote: smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/ prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/ enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
On 14/9/04, Nenad Djurdjevic, discombobulated, unleashed: >Of course the *istDs not a pro camera - but it should have wider >appeal than the original *istD and IMHO is probably the best camera in its >market segment at the moment. You say it's not a pro camera but I tell you what, I can see a lot of pros keeping one buried at the bottom of a bag or jacket. The best thing that has going for it is the size. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Another Limited lens
Since Barrel distortion is at the edge of the frame I would assume it's much less of a problem on the *ist-d/ds. CRB wrote: Wouldn't this be a decent portrait length for APS-class Digital? My only wish is that the optical quality is better than the 43/1.9 with its barrel issues. If this is just another Tessar it will be average, but if it's optimized for digital imaging then it might really sell the bodies. (Like software selling computers.) Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
On 14/9/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, unleashed: >Cotty wrote: >> Very small size. Good. >> >> I would consider one as a pocket camera. > >Especially with that new pancake lens, that would be fantastic... > >S Hmmm. I would have one with a 20mm lor a 24mm lens attached I think. That pancake would be of no interest to me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
SD vs. CF
Just to let you know about this kind of devices: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/suppliesroom/ver94447.html So if you got a CF slot camera, you can use SD or other format of memory in it. But it doesn't work the other way round.
Re: Another Limited lens
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Robert Woerner wrote: > Some of us still shoot film cameras like the MZ-S. Maybe we would like an AF > pancake. Thank you Pentax. I'm gonna get one.TOO CL. Apart from the lack of aperture priority, will this not vignette on FF 35mm? Kostas
RE: Boy, I Sure Hope I Can Fix Her!
Actually I suspect this might be one of those "died the day the warranty ran out" ones. I've had several ME Supers that were close to mint but non-working. As popular as the camera was I suspect QC wasn't always what it should have been. This one shows NO wear at the film plane so I doubt it was used very much. Hopefully just a bad solder joint, cracked flex board or something like that. I'm a little wierd about display cameras, if they don't work, they don't get displayed. I feel that having a non-working camera is like having just a picture of one. Though I like looking at them my true fascination is with the marvelous mechanisms inside. My little contribution to the world of eccentricity. ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Boy, I Sure Hope I Can Fix Her! > > > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:27:44 -0400, Graywolf > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sure you can find a beat up but working perfectly chrome one to act > > as a parts donor, Don. > > > > Even if it can't be fixed, it will make a very pretty shelf camera. > > It's obviously been well used, it's long since fulfilled it's destiny > as a taker of photographs, it might deserve some time to just sit in > the pasture and chew it's cud... > > OTOH, if you can get it working, all the better. > > Lovely catch! > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it > as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt >
Re: Another Limited lens
Don't know what it's made from yet, only seen the pict. frank theriault wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:48:26 -0400, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Well, it's so thin. If the M 2.8 40mm is a pancake, surely this will be the Crepe Lens. Actually, I hope Crepe Lens doesn't catch on - sounds too much like Crap Lens... I think it's very cool, but as someone else said, are they tainting the name "limited" by making a non metal lens? cheers, frank -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Another Limited lens
It wouldn't be hard, but I doubt it's better... CRB wrote: At least it has a better focus ring than the M. Sincerely, C.Brendemuehl "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
European PDMLM at Photokina?
Hi, will there a pdml meeting at the photokina? Bye Katrin -- Supergünstige DSL-Tarife + WLAN-Router für 0,- EUR* Jetzt zu GMX wechseln und sparen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I always thought that Canon & Nikon are mainstream and not the exceptions. Yeah, but most Nikonr consumer cams and quite a few Canons use SD cards. In terms of sales volume the balance is in favor of SD even amongst these two makes. (Sony is actually the biggest selling digital camera brand, IIRC and they use their own Memory Stick cards). You can't get any more mainstream than Kodak, which is, I believe, the number three selling digicam maker: All theirs use SD cards (except for the full-frame DSLRs!)
Re: *istDs and SD cards
"Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Actually my biggest problem is the form factor, sd cards are just too >damned small. Right on, Peter! Too easy to lose. Too small to write on. I have zero interest in buying any memory card that's smaller than CF. I expect, however, that this isn't anything to worry about. I can foresee CF becoming the format for "serious" cameras and SD becoming the choice for "consumer grade" products. 6-megapixel, APS-frame DSLRs are already starting to move down from the first category to the second. Perhaps more so after Photokina.
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 14/9/04, Nenad Djurdjevic, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Of course the *istDs not a pro camera - but it should have wider >>appeal than the original *istD and IMHO is probably the best camera in its >>market segment at the moment. > >You say it's not a pro camera but I tell you what, I can see a lot of >pros keeping one buried at the bottom of a bag or jacket. The best thing >that has going for it is the size. Especially with that 40mm pancake lens on it... Way cool.
Re: *istDs and SD cards
I would tend to agree with that. The human interface is more important than engineering types tend to think. When something is too small it becomes more of a pain than an asset. -- Peter J. Alling wrote: Actually my biggest problem is the form factor, sd cards are just too damned small. If you just put one in the device, (camera, phone, whatever), and leave it there it isn't a problem, but if you intend to change them in and out they are just too fiddley, and you have a better chance of dropping one and not ever finding it again. I dropped an exposed roll of 35mm down a sewer grate once, that was painful enough. Rob Brigham wrote: The problem is more the capacity of the SD cards in my opinion. I am 100% convinced CF is here to stay as the 'standard' for DSLRs. Take an extreme example of the EOS 1Ds or the Kodak 14n - how many images do you think you would get on a 1Gb CF card then? Now look at the DSLRS pushing towards 8Mp as the second wave and suddenly this kind of extreme storage doesn't look so extreme anymore. Sure SD cards will grow in capacity, but so will the data storage requirements of Digicams as the Megapixel race continues. People seem to be suggesting that the difference between CF and SD in terms of price will dissappear because SD cards are getting bigger and cheaper. Well what do you suppose CF cards have been doing and will continue to do while this happens? I was surprised to see mini-SD the other day - where did this come from? Maybe SD is dead too in that case? I still think that in DSLR land the space saving of SD over CF is almost pointless in all but the extreme compacts. I still think they could have put CF into the istDs - just that they chose not to because of the market segment they were looking at. PDAs, MP3s and Phones size is a major issue because they need to be pocketable and the card makes up a more significant percentage of the size - some MP3 players are little bigger than the card+battery. You are never going to have a pocketable DSLR using APS sensors so this is not at all comparable. I actually think the istDs is pitched just about as well as Pentax could have done in my opinion. The SD card thing will stop me seriously considering it any time soon, but then again I don't really need it anyway. Might have considered it as a backup if it took the same cards and was REALLY cheap though. What ultimately stops me though is that I am looking for the istD to become my backup and my primary to have a larger sensor and better feel. I pick up my MZ-S to feel joy, but pick up the istD to take pictures. -Original Message- From: Nenad Djurdjevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 September 2004 07:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *istDs and SD cards I notice that a lot of people are concerned that the *istD and *istDs use different memory cards. I can understand if someone has made a big investment in CF cards that this would be annoying. However it is possible to buy a SD to CF adaptor for only a few dollars that allows SD cards to be used in the *istD. This makes CF cards redundant other than the fact that they are still cheaper than SD cards (at the moment). Most new cameras and in fact most electronic equipment now use SD cards (PDAs, phones, MP3 players, etc) and I think the CF card is on the way out. I have only one 512MB CF card for my *istD and in my case it makes more sense to buy SD cards in future. I shoot only jpeg and download to my harddrive often. If anything, my Optio 43WR point and shoot needs bigger cards than my *istD as it has 30fps 640x480 video that chews up memory space very quickly indeed. In fact I am about to buy a high speed 1GB SD card that I will be able to use in either camera. Supposedly the SD-CF adaptor slows down writing to the card but if so I haven't noticed. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: istDs - what a great camera!
USB 2.0 downloads! -Original Message- From: Nenad Djurdjevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: istDs - what a great camera! I just read the *istDs review on dpreview. What a great camera! Yes, it is a cut-down *istD but then again it is cheaper, smaller and lighter and has some worthwhile improvements. It really is a digital version of the film ist which in turn is an updated version of the MZ10 - a very under-rated camera. Of course the *istDs not a pro camera - but it should have wider appeal than the original *istD and IMHO is probably the best camera in its market segment at the moment. I can see nothing from the rivals that would compete. It's small, compact, well made and featured. Many fixed-lens ZLRs (if that's they're called) are larger and heavier. Pentax deserves to sell heaps of them just as they sold heaps of ME series cameras in the 80s. Well Done Pentax! Keep up the good work! (Now if Pentax could just release another firmware upgrade for the original *istD with some of the suggestions PDMLers have made - I would be very much obliged!)
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
On 14 Sep 2004 at 8:00, Mark Roberts wrote: > "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Me too, buffer is better but they can stick the SD card up their Rs. > > > >I can't see many *ist D owners running out to buy one as a back-up body. > > Well of *course* not! They don't *want* ist-D owners to buy the > cheaper camera! It's meant for an entirely different target audience: > People who want a "high end" camers (DSLR) but don't even know what > mirror lock-up is. People who like the idea of interchangable lenses > but who care less about lens compatibility than memory card > compatibility (the intended buyer for this camera probably already > owns a high end digicam and has a pocketful of SD cards). My point is that with a little bit more thought and it would have appealed to a far wider potential market. However it's appeal is yet to be tested, like the *ist D it's still not a Canon or a Nikon. My guess is that the price of the 300D will tumble as soon as the *ist Ds hits the market. Good luck to Pentax, they are late to market again. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
Sony is now using CF in some models, along with Mem Stik Shel > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (Sony is actually the biggest selling digital > camera brand, IIRC and they use their own Memory Stick cards).
RE: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
The price of the 300D has already been tubling in the UK for a few months now. The 10D seems to be getting close to freefall now too... It is hard to see how Pentax could possibly undercut their competition as things stand, which is why I am glad they seem to have taken a fresher approach by pushing the small & light thing and possibly appealing to a new group of buyers. Now we know why they don't bother with a ZLR like the other makes - they don't need one, the istDs does the job and more! > -Original Message- > From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > My point is that with a little bit more thought and it would > have appealed to a > far wider potential market. However it's appeal is yet to be > tested, like the > *ist D it's still not a Canon or a Nikon. My guess is that > the price of the > 300D will tumble as soon as the *ist Ds hits the market. Good > luck to Pentax, > they are late to market again. > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/> ~distudio/publications/ > Pentax > user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > >
Re: *istDs and SD cards
On 14 Sep 2004 at 11:45, Graywolf wrote: > I would tend to agree with that. The human interface is more important > than engineering types tend to think. When something is too small it > becomes more of a pain than an asset. Bigger is better has fallen from its pedestal, it's now smaller is superior, stuff the ergonomics. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: European PDMLM at Photokina?
Hello Katrin, Half a year ago I suggested that there should be such a meeting. However, unfortunately, I won't be able to join as I will be away in the Ukraine. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi, will there a pdml meeting at the photokina? Bye Katrin
Re: Grandpa Stenquist
Thanks Kostas, Hope to see all the Scottish PDMLers some day soon. Paul > On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, mike wilson wrote: > > > Let us know if you do. I'm only about 120 miles away and there's at > > least one PDMLer who is right on the door step. Congratulations, by the > > way. > > That will be me. Congratulations Paul! > > Kostas >
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
The best one for that action is Sony's Memory Stick ;-) Rob Studdert wrote: Me too, buffer is better but they can stick the SD card up their Rs.
Re: European PDMLM at Photokina?
I can be there on Sep. 28 or 29 in the afternoon. Just tell me the time. Bye, Dario - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: European PDMLM at Photokina? > Hi, > will there a pdml meeting at the photokina? > Bye Katrin > > -- > Supergünstige DSL-Tarife + WLAN-Router für 0,- EUR* > Jetzt zu GMX wechseln und sparen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl >
Re: *istDs and SD cards
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 00:54:25 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14 Sep 2004 at 11:45, Graywolf wrote: > > > Bigger is better has fallen from its pedestal, it's now smaller is superior, > stuff the ergonomics. The folks who bring us Canon and Nikon pro DSLR's don't think so. Kripes, they're about the size of 6x7's!! cheers, frank -- "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
"Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The price of the 300D has already been tubling in the UK for a few
>months now. The 10D seems to be getting close to freefall now too...
>
>It is hard to see how Pentax could possibly undercut their competition
>as things stand, which is why I am glad they seem to have taken a
>fresher approach by pushing the small & light thing and possibly
>appealing to a new group of buyers.
If the baby-D is built as well as the original, it'll be a better buy
than the Rebel even if Canon does lower the price. It sounds like the
construction of the ist-Ds feels as good as the ist-D, from the sounds
of the DPreview article.
Anyone else notice that Phil Askey sounded uncharacteristically
enthusiastic about this camera? ("that this is what Olympus's
Four-Thirds System should have been all about, compact and lightweight
digital SLR bodies (and lenses!)"
Re: European PDMLM at Photokina?
Hi Dario, I'm not sure yet, whether I will go, but I can only go at the weekend... I have to work and it's at least 3 hours by train... bye Katrin > I can be there on Sep. 28 or 29 in the afternoon. Just tell me the time. > Bye, > Dario > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:31 PM > Subject: European PDMLM at Photokina? > > > > Hi, > > will there a pdml meeting at the photokina? > > Bye Katrin > > > > -- > > Supergünstige DSL-Tarife + WLAN-Router für 0,- EUR* > > Jetzt zu GMX wechseln und sparen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > > -- Supergünstige DSL-Tarife + WLAN-Router für 0,- EUR* Jetzt zu GMX wechseln und sparen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
lol! Product codes which are just.. wrong.
http://tinyurl.com/4qoyt (look for 'Jessops Code') Ry
Still busy
I apologize for not replying to some messages which deserve some comments (especially grandpa's ;-), but I'm still too busy, working all the time (till late night) before I'l leave for Cologne. Bye, Dario
RE: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
On 14 Sep 2004 at 15:53, Rob Brigham wrote: > The price of the 300D has already been tubling in the UK for a few > months now. The 10D seems to be getting close to freefall now too... There is an AUD200 cash back on the 300Ds at the moment, I've got a flyer in front of me quoting AUD1790 for the 300D + 18-55 which would make it about GBP621 with the cash back. I have one next to me at the moment and I must say that even given its bulbous body and crappy plastic feel all of the buttons work as expected unlike my supposedly superior *ist D. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
> Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >You say it's not a pro camera but I tell you what, I can see a lot of > >pros keeping one buried at the bottom of a bag or jacket. The best thing > >that has going for it is the size. Mark Roberts agreed with Cotty, and further elaborated: > > Especially with that 40mm pancake lens on it... > Way cool. > The only pros who are going to stick a *istDs in their pocket (or anywhere else) are going to be pros who use a Pentax DSLR - which now, of course, means the *istD. And we know that very few pros use one (I suspect they're all on this list). But then we've already established that no one with a *istD will "downgrade" to a *istDs, due to the card incompatibilty issue. Why is a pro using a Nikon or Canon DSLR going to stick a Pentax dslr in their pocket? With the greatest of respect, I don't see that happening at all. cheers, frank -- "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
Re: European PDMLM at Photokina?
If we'll meet during the show, I'm afraid I cannot stay with you so much (too busy, too much to do for job there in just 2 days). If we'll meet late in the afternoon, just before leaving the show, I could probably be more relaxed, and then go walking along the bridge and then have some milk/tea/beers :-) and then, who knows... Anyone interested? Dario - Original Message - From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:08 PM Subject: Re: European PDMLM at Photokina? > I can be there on Sep. 28 or 29 in the afternoon. Just tell me the time. > Bye, > Dario > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:31 PM > Subject: European PDMLM at Photokina? > > > > Hi, > > will there a pdml meeting at the photokina? > > Bye Katrin > > > > -- > > Supergünstige DSL-Tarife + WLAN-Router für 0,- EUR* > > Jetzt zu GMX wechseln und sparen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > >
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
On 14 Sep 2004 at 11:08, Mark Roberts wrote: > If the baby-D is built as well as the original, it'll be a better buy > than the Rebel even if Canon does lower the price. It sounds like the > construction of the ist-Ds feels as good as the ist-D, from the sounds > of the DPreview article. I hope not. Feel as in the feel in the hand is one thing but the button feedback and response on the *ist D sucks, I've got my *ist D and a 300D in my hands at the moment. I've spent a lot of time cursing the *ist D joy-stick and checking the top LCD when I press the drive mode button, the 300D is a joy to use in comparison. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Just another week in Florida...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:18:37 -0400, Cesar Matamoros II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The North Bay > is not too much farther away. Hey, there's a North Bay in Ontario!! At least ours is actually up north (although someone from, say, Yellowknife might dispute that). Be safe, Cesar. We'll all look to hear from you as this thing progresses. And, if you evacuate, take as many cams as you can with you!! cheers, frank -- "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
On 14/9/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >Why is a pro using a Nikon or Canon DSLR going to stick a Pentax dslr >in their pocket? With the greatest of respect, I don't see that >happening at all. Because pros need to spend money. They claim expense against income tax. A teeny tiny Pentax DSLR is a cute thing to have tucked away with a little lens stuck on it for those times when the big kit stays in the car while the photog marches off to find lunch, etc. OTOH it could all be complete bollocks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
You can buy it without any rebate for this price in the UK now! http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=777_4_409_40901 Or body only for £539. 10D is £799 from the same place (body only). This includes shipping and VAT. > -Original Message- > From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 September 2004 16:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: What, no *ist-Ds messages? > > > On 14 Sep 2004 at 15:53, Rob Brigham wrote: > > > The price of the 300D has already been tubling in the UK for a few > > months now. The 10D seems to be getting close to freefall > now too... > > There is an AUD200 cash back on the 300Ds at the moment, I've > got a flyer in > front of me quoting AUD1790 for the 300D + 18-55 which would > make it about > GBP621 with the cash back. I have one next to me at the > moment and I must say > that even given its bulbous body and crappy plastic feel all > of the buttons > work as expected unlike my supposedly superior *ist D. > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/> ~distudio/publications/ > Pentax > user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > >
Re: *istDs and SD cards
On 14 Sep 2004 at 11:08, frank theriault wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 00:54:25 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 14 Sep 2004 at 11:45, Graywolf wrote: > > > Bigger is better has fallen from > its pedestal, it's now smaller is superior, > stuff the ergonomics. > > The folks who bring us Canon and Nikon pro DSLR's don't think so. > Kripes, they're about the size of 6x7's!! You are right in those cases of course, doesn't seem to keep the punters with the cash away though :-) I haven't yet had the opportunity to really spend some time with the top end digicams from either Nikon or Canon and it's probably not a bad thing as I suspect I'd end up like Cotty :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
May I suggest you to check the 20D too once it's out. Rob Studdert wrote: I hope not. Feel as in the feel in the hand is one thing but the button feedback and response on the *ist D sucks, I've got my *ist D and a 300D in my hands at the moment. I've spent a lot of time cursing the *ist D joy-stick and checking the top LCD when I press the drive mode button, the 300D is a joy to use in comparison.
Re: *istDs and SD cards
On 15/9/04, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: >I haven't yet had the opportunity to really spend some time with the top end >digicams from either Nikon or Canon and it's probably not a bad thing as I >suspect I'd end up like Cotty :-) Patience Studdsy, the *ist D Pro will be along in a while. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
some photos
hello, a small gallery here, http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/ltx.htm mild latex fetish stuff. I have used Pentax KX & Ricoh XR-X bodies. My favourite lens for this kind of shooting is probably my M-50/1.7, but in those sessions I have also used A-85/1.4, A-50/1.7, K35/3.5 & A100/4 lenses and maybe sometimes a Ricoh 50/2 -lens, too. I can't remember exactly which lenses I have used for these shots, but those lenses I have had in my bag, and usually I have used all of them, but most of them were shot with Pentax gear anyway. T400cn & Provia 400 films. In those sessions, I have used my KX loaded with t400cn and the Ricoh body with the slide film. Some of the B&W shots may have been converted from slides, can't remember. About the image manipulation: I have cloned out small areas or details here & there, and of course I have done basic things like contrast adding etc. If you have something to ask, use the feedback link on that page.. (I'm sorry if this message was sent earlier today to the list..I'm re-sending it now, because I think the first one never reached the list) cheers, Timo
Batteries for Older Cameras
As a change of pace from this recent digital deluge, I've just received a couple of camera donations for the 6thStreet workshop, and neither camera has batteries. What batteries does the K1000 and the P3 use? Thanks! Shel
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:21:47 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because pros need to spend money. They claim expense against income tax. Attention all pros who need to spend money. Invest in Frank's Fotographic Future (I was thinking about calling it Phrank's Photographic Phuture, but that's going a bit too far, don't you think?). Buy me stuff. That way you get the write off, and I get to use new equipment. If the Income Tax people ever question your expenditure, I promise to send the gear back to you immediately. It will look well used, I promise you (thus not raising any suspicions). Thanks in advance. cheers, frank -- "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
Re: some photos
Hey, you're my hero ;-) Difficult to pick up a fav, there are several: http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/ltx_re05.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/thltx01w.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/f100025.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/jltx18.jpg Hey, you were quite productive ! Great shot ! Hartikainen wrote: hello, a small gallery here, http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/ltx.htm mild latex fetish stuff. I have used Pentax KX & Ricoh XR-X bodies. My favourite lens for this kind of shooting is probably my M-50/1.7, but in those sessions I have also used A-85/1.4, A-50/1.7, K35/3.5 & A100/4 lenses and maybe sometimes a Ricoh 50/2 -lens, too. I can't remember exactly which lenses I have used for these shots, but those lenses I have had in my bag, and usually I have used all of them, but most of them were shot with Pentax gear anyway. T400cn & Provia 400 films. In those sessions, I have used my KX loaded with t400cn and the Ricoh body with the slide film. Some of the B&W shots may have been converted from slides, can't remember. About the image manipulation: I have cloned out small areas or details here & there, and of course I have done basic things like contrast adding etc. If you have something to ask, use the feedback link on that page.. (I'm sorry if this message was sent earlier today to the list..I'm re-sending it now, because I think the first one never reached the list) cheers, Timo
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
Make me a price for that Vivitear lens of yours. I could use a loupe and you'll do much better without it. ;-) frank theriault wrote: Buy me stuff. That way you get the write off, and I get to use new equipment. If the Income Tax people ever question your expenditure, I promise to send the gear back to you immediately. It will look well used, I promise you (thus not raising any suspicions).
Re: Batteries for Older Cameras
Shell. Never owned a P3, but, the K1000 uses a single battery. I use Duracel #ms-76 or an LR-44.Just remember the meter is on as soon as the cap is off the K1000. I have owned mine since 1997 and have put 3 batteries in it including the original. The ms-76 drain slowly but you'll know when its about to die.Sluggish meter. Dave > IIRC, both cameras use a pair of 76 batteries, or a 2L76 lithium. > Follow the markings on the battery cover to see which way to put them in. > > -Mat > > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:38:51 -0700, Shel Belinkoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a change of pace from this recent digital deluge, I've just received a > > couple of camera donations for the 6thStreet workshop, and neither camera > > has batteries. What batteries does the K1000 and the P3 use? Thanks! >
Re: Oahu Photo Suggestions
My advice, if you can, is to go to Kauai (sp?). Plan on investing a lot of time in line @ Pearl! Get in a car and head west out of town around the coastline. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Steve Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Oahu Photo Suggestions > Hi Everyone, > > I will be traveling to Honolulu for a week, leaving > this Saturday. I will be taking my istD and was > wondering if anyone had some suggestions for where to > go? I want to get out and explore the entire island. > Hoping to get some shots of surfers, etc. I plan on > going to Pearl Harbor as well. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions! > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >
Re: some photos
HAR ! The first 4 were exactly my picks, see previous message ;-) Say Tan are you thinking self-shots ? ;-) Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Hi Timo, These are fantastic shots, right up there with the kind of stuff I want to shoot! I particularly love these ones: http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/ltx_re05.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/thltx01w.jpg (what a GORGEOUS model!) http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/f100025.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/jltx18.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/th012.jpg Great Stuff!! Tanya Mayer Photography Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 49831247 Mobile +61 0429831247 -Original Message- From: Hartikainen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2004 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: some photos hello, a small gallery here, http://www.kolumbus.fi/t_ja_s.hartikainen/ltx/ltx.htm mild latex fetish stuff. I have used Pentax KX & Ricoh XR-X bodies. My favourite lens for this kind of shooting is probably my M-50/1.7, but in those sessions I have also used A-85/1.4, A-50/1.7, K35/3.5 & A100/4 lenses and maybe sometimes a Ricoh 50/2 -lens, too. I can't remember exactly which lenses I have used for these shots, but those lenses I have had in my bag, and usually I have used all of them, but most of them were shot with Pentax gear anyway. T400cn & Provia 400 films. In those sessions, I have used my KX loaded with t400cn and the Ricoh body with the slide film. Some of the B&W shots may have been converted from slides, can't remember. About the image manipulation: I have cloned out small areas or details here & there, and of course I have done basic things like contrast adding etc. If you have something to ask, use the feedback link on that page.. (I'm sorry if this message was sent earlier today to the list..I'm re-sending it now, because I think the first one never reached the list) cheers, Timo
RE: istDs - what a great camera!
Cotty said: "Because pros need to spend money. They claim expense against income tax." And this my friends, is the exact reason that i'll be buying one the second it becomes available over here... Tanya Mayer Photography Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 49831247 Mobile +61 0429831247 -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 1:22 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! On 14/9/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >Why is a pro using a Nikon or Canon DSLR going to stick a Pentax dslr >in their pocket? With the greatest of respect, I don't see that >happening at all. Because pros need to spend money. They claim expense against income tax. A teeny tiny Pentax DSLR is a cute thing to have tucked away with a little lens stuck on it for those times when the big kit stays in the car while the photog marches off to find lunch, etc. OTOH it could all be complete bollocks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
