Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
Well, there IS that. I've got the M/2, A/1.7, M/1.4, and K/1.8 (the last is 55mm). The M/1.4 is almost always in the bag, the M/2 is used sometimes as a reversed lens, the others are shelf-sitters. I've got such a collection because they all came on bodies I purchased. Jens Bladt wrote: Who said I only have one? Jens Bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 26. november 2004 10:34 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens The best one is the one you own.
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
I only modify things cuz companies don't make what I want in the first place. Several years ago, I learnt to sew for the very same reason. Hmm, how about a nice quilted camera bag ? G Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward
On 26/11/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, unleashed: How come you're out and about anyway, Cotty? Isn't it like another eleven months until Halloween? ;-) Hey us ghouls are out there all year round man, just watchin you Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Film vs. Digital - A necessary test
:-) oops. On Nov 27, 2004, at 2:19 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote: Actually I did understand... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
On 26/11/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: This certificate entitles the bearer to: One(1) official, licensed, patented and copy righted *ROUND TUIT Please mail with $2.00 for postage and handling to: The General Tuit Corp. 123 Doit Tuit Drive Dept. BULL-001 Tuit, Mass. 12345-1234 (Please specify Round to recieve the proper Tuit) You don't do the square kind? fft Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What series lens do I have?
On Nov 27, 2004, at 5:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The K designation was unofficial. I think Pentax users just invented that to distinguish that first series of lens options from the later ones. Oh, I thought the K series matched the fact that they came out with the K cameras, and the M series came out with the M series cameras, and the A series came out with the A series cameras??? At least, that is my interpretation, based on the K-Mount Page... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO: ist D black and white
On 26/11/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: Slowly, I am getting familiar with the ist D as a street camera. Today I went out shooting, trying to forget that it is a digital camera that takes color, and thinking as I usually do, in black and white. Of all lenses, I took the FA 16-45, it seemed like a pity to let it gather dust while I use only primes. All these six pictures are istD/FA16-45, taken to BW in Photoshop via channel mixer, using settings that try to imitate how Tri-X renders color tones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/jbstreet/show/ Fabulous set of smudges Juan. Love the slideshow pres . Well done. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
On 26/11/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long needle Scotch Pine this year. We haven't had one of those in many years. Different is fun. Anyway, I shot it with the DA 16-45. I dialed in about plus 1.5 exposure compensation at f11, and positioned the camera on a cabinet. The exposure was around half a second I think. In any case, here it is. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg Interesting. You have come across a classic mixed lighting situation and balanced the picture entirely for tungsten. I daily shoot pics for the news in such scenarios (minus the nice tree :-) and I can tell you that I hate the ultra blue windows with a vengeance. Some people like the cold blue exteriors through a window I gather ;-) For video, what I would do here is have a couple of redheads up with half-blue gels on them (about 3900K I think they are) and balance for daylight (5600K). This keeps the exterior light from going so blue, and allows the artificial lighting to meet the daylight half way, while giving the domestic lamps some nice warm pools of tungsten illumination. Also, the tree lights would have a nice rosy glow to them. It looks like you've sprayed gold paint on everything but the windows ;-) For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated as much as possible - I appreciate you probably shot RAW I know we all see things different, I merely present my approach in such situations. Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Phun with Photoshop RAW Converter
Hello Paul Looking at the posted link I saw that an application called The File Browser mentioned. Since I'm looking for a Thumb Nail and database application for the people at work, I wonder if this is stand-alone application? Or does it work as a Photoshop plug-in only. Will it work as a plug-in for Photoshop Elements 2.0 or 3.0? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. november 2004 17:46 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Phun with Photoshop RAW Converter George gave us the url for some adobe white papers these other day. They explain the browser and the CS RAW converter in considerable detail. I found these to be very valuable and an interesting read. I don't agree with everything the author says, but it's very informative. (For example, with Pentax RAW, I think some sharpening in the converter is almost always a plus.) Thanks for the tip, George. The docs are at http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html
Re: What series lens do I have?
You got a K there. Jack Davis wrote: Among those lens series' referenced on this list, is one designated as K. In addition to those in my bag carrying the letter ID's; FA, A, ,M is one without an alpha ID. The markings are limited to: ASAHI OPT. CO., Japan smc PENTAX 1:2.8 24mm 6983748. It takes a 52mm filter. Is this a K lens? Knowing will not change my sleep pattern, but the question was left alone in my head again. Thanks, Jack __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
Thanks to al who commented. I figured a bit of holiday cheer was just the thing for a slow list day. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 1:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long needle Scotch Pine this year. We haven't had one of those in many years. Different is fun. Anyway, I shot it with the DA 16-45. I dialed in about plus 1.5 exposure compensation at f11, and positioned the camera on a cabinet. The exposure was around half a second I think. In any case, here it is. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg Oh, my. That IS a VERY nice picture. ERNR
Re: PESO: ist D black and white
Nice shots. Some great moments captured here. In terms of the conversion, I find the mid range grays to be a bit too heavy. For example, I think the faces of those who are obviously caucasion are generally darker than a good tri-x print would render them. You might open them in PS, go to curves and pull down the middle of the curve a bit. But then again, you might prefer them just the way they are. In any case, some very good work here. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 1:58 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: My name is Juan and I am a Tri-X user. Slowly, I am getting familiar with the ist D as a street camera. Today I went out shooting, trying to forget that it is a digital camera that takes color, and thinking as I usually do, in black and white. Of all lenses, I took the FA 16-45, it seemed like a pity to let it gather dust while I use only primes. All these six pictures are istD/FA16-45, taken to BW in Photoshop via channel mixer, using settings that try to imitate how Tri-X renders color tones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/jbstreet/show/ [that goes to a nice flickr slideshow--if that doesn't work, go here and click on the thumbnails:] http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/jbstreet Comments appreciated. j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: What series lens do I have?
You're correct. But the K designation never appeared on the lenses, whereas M and A lenses were identified with the series letter. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 5:25 AM, Jon Glass wrote: On Nov 27, 2004, at 5:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The K designation was unofficial. I think Pentax users just invented that to distinguish that first series of lens options from the later ones. Oh, I thought the K series matched the fact that they came out with the K cameras, and the M series came out with the M series cameras, and the A series came out with the A series cameras??? At least, that is my interpretation, based on the K-Mount Page... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phun with Photoshop RAW Converter
The File Browser is part of PSCS. I don't know if it's included with Elements 3.0. Perhaps someone else can answer. On Nov 27, 2004, at 5:44 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Hello Paul Looking at the posted link I saw that an application called The File Browser mentioned. Since I'm looking for a Thumb Nail and database application for the people at work, I wonder if this is stand-alone application? Or does it work as a Photoshop plug-in only. Will it work as a plug-in for Photoshop Elements 2.0 or 3.0? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. november 2004 17:46 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Phun with Photoshop RAW Converter George gave us the url for some adobe white papers these other day. They explain the browser and the CS RAW converter in considerable detail. I found these to be very valuable and an interesting read. I don't agree with everything the author says, but it's very informative. (For example, with Pentax RAW, I think some sharpening in the converter is almost always a plus.) Thanks for the tip, George. The docs are at http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
Nice touch Paul, even if a bit early. Being Jewish, we never had a tree. But the kids had a great time at my folks house putting up their tree. My folks didn't mind either. They are good memories! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:27:37 -0500, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We used to wait with the tree until mid December or so. But now that the children are grown, they're only here on Thanksgiving and won't be back until 'Christmas. So Thanksgiving has become tree time. A tree is best when it's a family thing. I have some Jewish friends who do Chanukah trees along with their Menorah. Obviously not Orthodox. I know it's not in any way a part of the Jewish tradition, but it's still a fun holiday thing. We light a Menorah even though we're not Jewish. It's done both in recognition of our Jewish friends and as a symbol of the common heritage of the Jewish and Christian faiths. Our celebration is really quite secular. We're not deeply religious, but we're aware of our roots. On Nov 26, 2004, at 11:14 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: 'tis the season for jolly and merry Christmas pictures. Nice tree, Paul ... y'know, I never had a Christmas tree, never decorated anything for the holidays. I think you gentiles have the right idea. Sometimes the Jews are just to friggin' serious. But tell me, isn't putting a tree up the day after t'giving a bit early? Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long needle Scotch Pine this year. We haven't had one of those in many years. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg
Re: Paw N'other one of Copper
Unfortunatly just the meter in the k1000. I shot at the meter reading then 1 stop over and 1 under.This is the 1 stop over. This is were i should have had the PZ-1. I like the meter in that camera. Dave How are you metering these images? I would spotmeter the dog's face compensate accordingly (bracket reduced exposure around -1.0, -1., -.5, -1.5) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Paw N'other one of Copper I dont doubt it. I had a hard time getting it to this stage.:-) Its not a great image,just thought id pass it on until i get a better one going next weekg Dave Dave, I like the pose and the background trees, but the exposure needs help - way to dark on the face on my monitor. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:17 AM Subject: Paw N'other one of Copper http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper3.jpg Shot this one just prior to the rock shot i submitted last week. She's on the rock, but i was shooting into the setting sun and was trying for a bit of a silloette thingy. Very cloudy overcast day. This was the better scan of the two shots. I know there is not much detail in the body,but the face seems ok. Her mouth is a bit blurry as she moves it when she hear's the click. Again,enjoy and attack a way. Dave
Re: Paw N'other one of Copper
Thanks for the comments Wendy. I was not really happy with it,but i wanted to post it and see what helpfull comments came out of it. Sort of a Paw/Wow combo.lol Dave Hi Dave, You know im a sucker for dog shots :-) But this really doesn't work for me. Sorry! Wendy
Re: What series lens do I have?
The K designation was unofficial. I think Pentax users just invented that to distinguish that first series of lens options from the later ones. Oh, I thought the K series matched the fact that they came out with the K cameras, and the M series came out with the M series cameras, and the A series came out with the A series cameras??? At least, that is my interpretation, based on the K-Mount Page... This is basically true. However, just remember that the K designation is an unofficial (user-invented) designation. In addition, the distinctions between each series is not always correctly applied by sellers (and I'm not just picking on eBay here, either) - it is not uncommon for some sellers to refer to ~any~ pre-A K-mount lens as an M lens, even if sometimes, of course, a particular pre-A lens might actually be a K lens. So it can be a case of buyer be aware. Fred
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
- Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving Looks like something painted by a Norman Rockwell imitator. (Not a criticism, too warm for a usual Rockwell, and no people). It would make a nice card. Rockwell would have ditched the gas barbecue in favour of a pig on a spit, I am sure. William Robb
Re: What series lens do I have?
- Original Message - From: Jon Glass Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? On Nov 27, 2004, at 5:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The K designation was unofficial. I think Pentax users just invented that to distinguish that first series of lens options from the later ones. Oh, I thought the K series matched the fact that they came out with the K cameras, and the M series came out with the M series cameras, and the A series came out with the A series cameras??? At least, that is my interpretation, based on the K-Mount Page... Thats more or less correct, the different lens versions are/were contemporaneous with different camera lines, however, there are significant differences between the different lines. The K lenses are somewhat larger, and most people seem to think they are better lenses overall than the smaller M lenses. The A series lenses and all later lenses have electrical contacts on the mount, and the A position on the aperture ring that allows the camera to control the aperture. note; since the FAJ lenses don't have an aperture ring, they are locked in permanent A position. William Robb
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
Any of the manual focus 50/1.7's. I love the 50/1.4 but I have never had one that was quite as good as a 1.7 at the same f-stop. I'm surprised that we didn't hear more from the lovers of the f/1.7 versions, of which there are a few here on the PDML - I would have guessed that this thread (emphasizing optics and not aperture ring notchiness - g) would have brought 'em out of the woodwork Fred
Re: What series lens do I have?
In addition, the distinctions between each series is not always correctly applied by sellers (and I'm not just picking on eBay here, either) - it is not uncommon for some sellers to refer to ~any~ pre-A K-mount lens as an M lens, even if sometimes, of course, a particular pre-A lens might actually be a K lens. So it can be a case of buyer be aware. Just another thought on this: Often the incorrect distinction is easily spotted (and only merits a cognoscenti chuckle or two g) - there are no M versions of certain lenses (e.g., 15/3.5, 85/1.8, etc.) - but sometimes there is indeed a chance of confusion (e.g., with the 50/1.4's, certainly). Fred
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
Hi Fred ... While I like my lenses (otherwise I wouldn't have them), and especially like the 1.7 for its size and light weight, it doesn't, to my eye, have any particularly outstanding optical characteristics. By outstanding I don't mean great, just some characteristic that's unique, or special, or different enuf from the M1.4 or the M2.0 that'll make me want to grab it rather than the others when it's time for an M lens. It's competent, enjoyable to use, a little faster/slower than some, and that's about it. My M1.7 doesn't get used much since there's no reason to take it out too often it's so much between the others in it's features and optics, if you know what I mean. Shel [Original Message] From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any of the manual focus 50/1.7's. I love the 50/1.4 but I have never had one that was quite as good as a 1.7 at the same f-stop. I'm surprised that we didn't hear more from the lovers of the f/1.7 versions, of which there are a few here on the PDML - I would have guessed that this thread (emphasizing optics and not aperture ring notchiness - g) would have brought 'em out of the woodwork Fred
Re: Phun with Photoshop RAW Converter
Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The File Browser is part of PSCS. I don't know if it's included with Elements 3.0. Perhaps someone else can answer. Both Elements 2.0 and 3.0 contain a File Browser. Not sure how different it is from the one in CS, since I've never actually seen CS in person. ERNR
RE: What series lens do I have?
Here's a prime example of that by Adorama, who should know better: http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20146759.html AFAIK the 55/1.8 didn't come in an M. (This is a pretty good deal on the K though, they seem to be getting pretty hard to find.) Don -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:37 AM To: Fred Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? In addition, the distinctions between each series is not always correctly applied by sellers (and I'm not just picking on eBay here, either) - it is not uncommon for some sellers to refer to ~any~ pre-A K-mount lens as an M lens, even if sometimes, of course, a particular pre-A lens might actually be a K lens. So it can be a case of buyer be aware. Just another thought on this: Often the incorrect distinction is easily spotted (and only merits a cognoscenti chuckle or two g) - there are no M versions of certain lenses (e.g., 15/3.5, 85/1.8, etc.) - but sometimes there is indeed a chance of confusion (e.g., with the 50/1.4's, certainly). Fred
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
While I like my lenses (otherwise I wouldn't have them), and especially like the 1.7 for its size and light weight, it doesn't, to my eye, have any particularly outstanding optical characteristics. Yes, Shel, I personally would agree. However, I was just hoping to get some of the as-yet-unheard-from 50/1.7 fans involved in the discussion. After all, a thread on Pentax's Best 50mm Lens would theoretically be relevant to almost any PDML member - g. Fred
RE: PESO: ist D black and white
Hi Juan ... My first comment is that I like the photos, the images. They definitely have your stamp on them. The mid range tones look a little compressed, the silvery grey tones so characteristic of Tri-X seem to be missing. Some of the pics look like they're underexposed a scosh, although I do like they way they look apart from the somewhat compressed mid tones. But I'm a mid tone kind of guy ;-)) Have you tried the double layered Hue Saturation technique for converting to BW? Where did you get the settings that emulate Tri-X? I'd like to see these, or at least some of them, larger (the women with the dog, guy with buckets, and the Chinese market pics). Can you put them up somewhere with an 800 or so pixel width? Shel [Original Message] From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] My name is Juan and I am a Tri-X user. Slowly, I am getting familiar with the ist D as a street camera. Today I went out shooting, trying to forget that it is a digital camera that takes color, and thinking as I usually do, in black and white. All these six pictures are istD/FA16-45, taken to BW in Photoshop via channel mixer, using settings that try to imitate how Tri-X renders color tones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/jbstreet/show/ [that goes to a nice flickr slideshow--if that doesn't work, go here and click on the thumbnails:] http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/jbstreet Comments appreciated. j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
RE: Phun with Photoshop RAW Converter
The Elements 2 and CS browsers are quite similar. I still use Elements when shooting JPEG, it's a lot faster on my machine for quick Tweak+Print jobs. I won't upgrade to 3 though, I'll stick with CS. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Phun with Photoshop RAW Converter Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The File Browser is part of PSCS. I don't know if it's included with Elements 3.0. Perhaps someone else can answer. Both Elements 2.0 and 3.0 contain a File Browser. Not sure how different it is from the one in CS, since I've never actually seen CS in person. ERNR
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
Maybe but with all those PDMLers who have converted to, or now primarily use, the istd and similar cameras, it's not surprising that the ubiquitous 50mm lens has fallen somewhat from favor. Just a guess or maybe the list population is busy digesting turkey and out shopping or preparing their Christmas lists ;-)) And hasn't Pentax dropped the 1.7 in the autofocus variations? Shel [Original Message] From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I like my lenses (otherwise I wouldn't have them), and especially like the 1.7 for its size and light weight, it doesn't, to my eye, have any particularly outstanding optical characteristics. Yes, Shel, I personally would agree. However, I was just hoping to get some of the as-yet-unheard-from 50/1.7 fans involved in the discussion. After all, a thread on Pentax's Best 50mm Lens would theoretically be relevant to almost any PDML member - g. Fred
RE: What series lens do I have?
It didn't. I think some people consider M to mean manual as in manual focusing. Just a guess Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's a prime example of that by Adorama, who should know better: http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20146759.html AFAIK the 55/1.8 didn't come in an M. (This is a pretty good deal on the K though, they seem to be getting pretty hard to find.) Don
RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
All they list for AF are the 43/1.9 and the 50/1.4. For MF they still list the 50/2 and 50/1.2, no more 1.4 for MF. :-( Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens Maybe but with all those PDMLers who have converted to, or now primarily use, the istd and similar cameras, it's not surprising that the ubiquitous 50mm lens has fallen somewhat from favor. Just a guess or maybe the list population is busy digesting turkey and out shopping or preparing their Christmas lists ;-)) And hasn't Pentax dropped the 1.7 in the autofocus variations? Shel [Original Message] From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I like my lenses (otherwise I wouldn't have them), and especially like the 1.7 for its size and light weight, it doesn't, to my eye, have any particularly outstanding optical characteristics. Yes, Shel, I personally would agree. However, I was just hoping to get some of the as-yet-unheard-from 50/1.7 fans involved in the discussion. After all, a thread on Pentax's Best 50mm Lens would theoretically be relevant to almost any PDML member - g. Fred
Re: What series lens do I have?
Here's a prime example of that by Adorama, who should know better: http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20146759.html Yes, Adorama should know better - g. I think that, to some sellers, if it's a manual focus Pentax K-mount lens and it has electrical contacts, then it's an A lens, but if it has no contacts, then it's an M lens. Part of the problem is that the commonly used PDML - but unofficial - designation of a K lens is not as well known in the outside world - the guy at Adorama is presented with a 55/1.8 lens to describe, and it doesn't say M or A on it, or anything other than the usual (and thank God it is indeed usual) SMC designation (which is also found on the M and A lenses, of course), and he/she really doesn't want to just call it an SMC Pentax lens (which is, of course, exactly what it is). Part of the problem goes back to 1975, when Pentax came out with the K-mount bodies and lenses. Pentax made a switch in nomenclature from SMC Takumar to SMC Pentax (as if all future Pentax lenses could simply be called SMC Pentax - as if there would be only one lens series in the future), without envisioning that there might very soon - 1976 or 1977 - be a reason to be more descriptive in describing SMC Pentax lens series). Fred
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
but with all those PDMLers who have converted to, or now primarily use, the istd and similar cameras, it's not surprising that the ubiquitous 50mm lens has fallen somewhat from favor. This is perhaps true. And hasn't Pentax dropped the 1.7 in the autofocus variations? Gee, I think that there are (or, at least were) F and FA 50/1.7's. Fred
RE: What series lens do I have?
AFAI can see, this is a brilliant, short and informative desciption, Don! I'll keep it. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. november 2004 04:18 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: What series lens do I have? The first of the Pentax bayonet lenses were not given a letter designation, they are commonly refered to as K lenses after the mount type. (As opposed to M42 screw mount)If you have a good imagination the one long and two short flanges on the mount form the letter K if connected by lines. ;-/ The M series was next and was known for being lighter and smaller than their predecessors. Then came the A or KA lenses, these have the A setting and contacts to allow them to work in Program mode on cameras so equipped, such as the Super Program and on up to the ist D/DS. Then came the KAF and KAF2 which added autofocus. These are given the F, FA and FAJ letters. FAJ's have no aperture ring and aperture must be set on the camera. Now we have the DA lenses with a smaller image circle to match the the APS size sensor in the ist D and ist DS. They are KAF2 mount. The neat thing is all K mount lenses are Backward Compatible. (Except for the DA and FAJ) And more letters to follow...(We all hope!) ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What series lens do I have? Among those lens series' referenced on this list, is one designated as K. In addition to those in my bag carrying the letter ID's; FA, A, ,M is one without an alpha ID. The markings are limited to: ASAHI OPT. CO., Japan smc PENTAX 1:2.8 24mm 6983748. It takes a 52mm filter. Is this a K lens? Knowing will not change my sleep pattern, but the question was left alone in my head again. Thanks, Jack __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
RE: What series lens do I have?
I agree Fred, the problem with Adorama is they list third party lenses as px/k or pentax-k, now one has no clue whether they are M or A type. I've talked with them and they say *someday* they will start designating by mount. (ie:K,KA,KAF,etc) That would help a lot. Don -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:13 AM To: Don Sanderson Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? Here's a prime example of that by Adorama, who should know better: http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20146759.html Yes, Adorama should know better - g. I think that, to some sellers, if it's a manual focus Pentax K-mount lens and it has electrical contacts, then it's an A lens, but if it has no contacts, then it's an M lens. Part of the problem is that the commonly used PDML - but unofficial - designation of a K lens is not as well known in the outside world - the guy at Adorama is presented with a 55/1.8 lens to describe, and it doesn't say M or A on it, or anything other than the usual (and thank God it is indeed usual) SMC designation (which is also found on the M and A lenses, of course), and he/she really doesn't want to just call it an SMC Pentax lens (which is, of course, exactly what it is). Part of the problem goes back to 1975, when Pentax came out with the K-mount bodies and lenses. Pentax made a switch in nomenclature from SMC Takumar to SMC Pentax (as if all future Pentax lenses could simply be called SMC Pentax - as if there would be only one lens series in the future), without envisioning that there might very soon - 1976 or 1977 - be a reason to be more descriptive in describing SMC Pentax lens series). Fred
RE: What series lens do I have?
Thanks Jens, it's incomplete but Boz's page has the rest for those who want to go real deep. I almost just referred to that page but I know for me it was (and sometimes still is!) TOO detailed to get a simple answer. For those who want to look at this great site, it's here: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/ Don -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What series lens do I have? AFAI can see, this is a brilliant, short and informative desciption, Don! I'll keep it. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. november 2004 04:18 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: What series lens do I have? The first of the Pentax bayonet lenses were not given a letter designation, they are commonly refered to as K lenses after the mount type. (As opposed to M42 screw mount)If you have a good imagination the one long and two short flanges on the mount form the letter K if connected by lines. ;-/ The M series was next and was known for being lighter and smaller than their predecessors. Then came the A or KA lenses, these have the A setting and contacts to allow them to work in Program mode on cameras so equipped, such as the Super Program and on up to the ist D/DS. Then came the KAF and KAF2 which added autofocus. These are given the F, FA and FAJ letters. FAJ's have no aperture ring and aperture must be set on the camera. Now we have the DA lenses with a smaller image circle to match the the APS size sensor in the ist D and ist DS. They are KAF2 mount. The neat thing is all K mount lenses are Backward Compatible. (Except for the DA and FAJ) And more letters to follow...(We all hope!) ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What series lens do I have? Among those lens series' referenced on this list, is one designated as K. In addition to those in my bag carrying the letter ID's; FA, A, ,M is one without an alpha ID. The markings are limited to: ASAHI OPT. CO., Japan smc PENTAX 1:2.8 24mm 6983748. It takes a 52mm filter. Is this a K lens? Knowing will not change my sleep pattern, but the question was left alone in my head again. Thanks, Jack __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: What series lens do I have?
- Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: RE: What series lens do I have? Thanks Jens, it's incomplete but Boz's page has the rest for those who want to go real deep. I almost just referred to that page but I know for me it was (and sometimes still is!) TOO detailed to get a simple answer. For those who want to look at this great site, it's here: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/ Quoted from Mike Johnston: I think I'll answer this, since it also caused me a good deal of confusion at first. Here's a brief history of the basic 35mm Asahi Pentax lens names. There are a number of specialty lenses with different designations that I've omitted for the sake of clarity. 1952: Takumar lenses. Allegedly named after a man named Takuma Kajiwara, who was either a Japanese painter [Comen], or a Japanese photographer who lived in New York in the 1950's [sic]...a personal friend of George Eastman, the founder of Eastman Kodak Co. It's reported Mr. Kajiwara designed the early Takumar lenses [Jonkman]. These were M42 screwmount lenses. The M42 screwmount was a German invention that came to be known as Pentax screwmount because Asahi made the most popular camera line to use it. It is distinct from the Leica screwmount, which Marc James Small dubbed LTM (Leica Thread Mount). Many enlarger lenses still use Leica screwmount, and recent years have seen the first new Leica screwmount lenses in decades, made by Cosina under the Voigtlaender name. There are no current-production M42 screwmount lenses that I know of. 1958: a series of semi-automatic lenses called Auto-Takumar. M42 screwmount. 1963: The Super-Takumar line. M42 screwmount. 1971: The Super-Multi-Coated Takumar line. M42 screwmount. Introduced with the Spotmatic SPII. These lenses had early multicoating nearly identical to Zeiss T* coating, and linkages for open-aperture metering with the Spotmatic F. Early versions had metal knurled focusing rings and the words Super-Multi-Coated spelled out on the front of the lens. Later versions switched to a rubberized focusing rings and were marked SMC Takumar. Note that both Super-Multi-Coated Takumar and SMC Takumar lenses are often both indiscriminately called SMCT and SMC Takumar. People should really be specific and either spell out the name of the earlier lenses or else abbreviate it S.-M.-C. Takumar to distinguish earlier from later versions. 1975: Pentax switched from M42 screwmount to the K bayonet mount. The Pentax screwmount had been universal, with many manufacturers making lenses that would fit any M42 camera; Pentax attempted to do the same with the K mount, leaving the patent open to anyone who wanted to use it--and bucking the trend towards proprietary bayonet mounts. Consequently, a number of smaller manufacturers also used the Pentax K-mount. Despite this, it never really achieved universal status. The early Pentax K-mount lenses are called SMC Pentax lenses and are briefly referred to as K lenses. Many carried over from the last of the M42 lenses and are very fine lenses optically and mechanically. They were contemporaneous with the first three Pentax K-mount cameras, called the KX, KM, and K2. 1977: A lens line introduced for the compact M bodies. They are smaller than the SMC Pentax lenses and are generally neither quite as good optically nor quite as nicely built, although they are mostly still of very fine quality and very well-made. They are marked SMC Pentax-M, abbreviated SMCP-M and referred to briefly as M lenses. Although they are K-mount lenses, they are NOT K lenses, an appellation which refers to the SMC Pentax line. 1983: A line of lenses usable with program mode, marked SMC Pentax-A, abbreviated SMCP-A and referred to as A lenses. Although they are generally slightly better than the M lenses optically, they are generally not quite as well made. They are the first Pentax lenses that more or less lacked the legendary smooth focusing feel of the Super Takumars. 1987: F lenses. The first autofocus line. Compatible with the K-mount. 1991: FA lenses. The current autofocus line, also compatible with the K-mount. 1997 (? someone correct me if I'm wrong): The Limited lenses. Designed for an autofocus rangefinder that was shelved. FA lenses with metal barrels sold as premium, deluxe autofocus lenses with metal barrels, they are in fact NOT limited, but are regular stock items. There are now three, all with unusual focal lengths: the 43mm, the 77mm, and the 31mm. So, to recap, it looks like this: M42 screwmount lens series: == 1952: Takumars 1958: Auto-Takumars 1963: Super-Takumars 1971: Super-Multi-Coated Takumars, later ones marked SMC Takumar K-mount lens series: 1975: SMC Pentax lenses, also called K lenses 1977: M lens line 1983: A lens line Autofocus lens series: = 1987: F autofocus lenses 1991: FA autofocus lenses 1997(?): Limited (FA) lenses Hope that's all clear. If I've made any mistakes in
Re: What series lens do I have?
On Nov 27, 2004, at 3:18 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: The neat thing is all K mount lenses are Backward Compatible. (Except for the DA and FAJ) Would an FAJ lens work on, say, a Program Plus, which can operate in program mode, setting the aperture for you? or will it not work at all? (not that it matters now that I sold my P+, although it is always possible I'll buy another or similar in the future). -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What series lens do I have?
- Original Message - From: Jon Glass Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? Would an FAJ lens work on, say, a Program Plus, which can operate in program mode, setting the aperture for you? or will it not work at all? (not that it matters now that I sold my P+, although it is always possible I'll buy another or similar in the future). Yes. The FAJ lenses will work on any body that has aperture control built in (but no direct control, such as a thumbwheel), in either programmed automatic or shutter preferred automatic. William Robb
RE: What series lens do I have?
FAJ will work on the Program Plus in Program mode and in Shutter Preferred mode if this is available on the PP. Manual and Aperture Preferred (my favorite) will NOT be available. Also no F stop can be set when used in Bulb. For me that answer is a NO, for you it may be OK. Don -Original Message- From: Jon Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? On Nov 27, 2004, at 3:18 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: The neat thing is all K mount lenses are Backward Compatible. (Except for the DA and FAJ) Would an FAJ lens work on, say, a Program Plus, which can operate in program mode, setting the aperture for you? or will it not work at all? (not that it matters now that I sold my P+, although it is always possible I'll buy another or similar in the future). -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What series lens do I have?
Thanks William, that's a good mini-history. Don -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? Quoted from Mike Johnston: big snip Hope that's all clear. If I've made any mistakes in this, please, folks, don't be shy about setting me straight (like I need to say that g). --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photographing at the Auto Show
On Nov 27, 2004, at 2:55 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm going to the auto show in San Francisco on Saturday. Thought I'd take my 18mm and 24mm, plus perhaps a 50mm for people shots. Anything else seems too long. Any thoughts on that? You might want something longer for detail shots. At least if this is an antique car show--you know, hood ornaments, wheel spokes, or even dash boards (especially them, as you probably can't get close enough to them). I have a friend who shot a car parade/show on Jersey, and he had a fair number of such shots, and used a longer lens to get a bunch of them Just thinking out loud... Hope I'm not too late... :-) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What series lens do I have?
On Nov 27, 2004, at 3:54 PM, Don Sanderson wrote: For me that answer is a NO, for you it may be OK. For me, I would call it a conditional yes. :-) So long as I can put it on my camera and shoot--and if it's a lens worth using... maybe, for instance, for wide angle... Worth remembering at least. Thanks for the help! -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tamron style lens caps
Some mentioned getting Tamron lens caps for all their lenses a while back. This is what I'd like to do, those center finger grips are the greatest, especially if you rough them up a bit for even better grip. They're the only way to go with a hood in place. Does anyone know where these are available in all different sizes, I've had no luck so far finding 49,52,55,58 and 67mm. 72 and 77 I found. TIA Don (National lens cap dropping champion) ;-)
RE: Tamron style lens caps
That should be Someone mentioned! :-( And I might add they don't need to be Tamron brand just a style with the center grips. Don -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:18 AM To: PDML Subject: Tamron style lens caps Some mentioned getting Tamron lens caps for all their lenses a while back. This is what I'd like to do, those center finger grips are the greatest, especially if you rough them up a bit for even better grip. They're the only way to go with a hood in place. Does anyone know where these are available in all different sizes, I've had no luck so far finding 49,52,55,58 and 67mm. 72 and 77 I found. TIA Don (National lens cap dropping champion) ;-)
Re: What series lens do I have?
FAJ will work on the Program Plus in Program mode and in Shutter Preferred mode if this is available on the PP. Manual and Aperture Preferred (my favorite) will NOT be available. Also no F stop can be set when used in Bulb. For me that answer is a NO, for you it may be OK. For me, I would call it a conditional yes. :-) So long as I can put it on my camera and shoot--and if it's a lens worth using... maybe, for instance, for wide angle... Worth remembering at least. Thanks for the help! I guess I'd also call it a conditional yes, too, although aperture-preferred autoexposure is my most-used mode, and I do like to set the aperture on (TTL) flash photos. If a lens is really good, and can be used with only ~modest~ inconvenience on a body for which it was not designed (and, this is for both forward-in-time and backward-in-time directions), I'd probably still try to sue the lens. For example, I'm planning on using my K 135/2.5 and K 200/2.5 lenses (and ~certainly~ a number of my old VS1 gems) on the *ist D or *ist DS (when I eventually get a digital body). On the other hand, I'd be less likely to use an FAJ lens on an older body, ~unless~ it were really optically superb and I had no other more correct (so to speak) lens to use instead. Fred
RE: PESO: ist D black and white
Hi Juan ... Hi Juan. I'm just starting to try the tri-x films,so i'll trust you on your settings,for now.vbg I like the first one the best,the guy in the street car(or is it a bus.??)Seems to have good range and i think this one shows a good PS conversion. Is there a Tri-x plug in somewere?? BTW i have shot 2 rolls,1 35mm and 1 6x7,both on contact sheets only.They seem to have a bit more smoothness to them than the Tmax i'm used to. Dave [Original Message] From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] My name is Juan and I am a Tri-X user. Slowly, I am getting familiar with the ist D as a street camera. Today I went out shooting, trying to forget that it is a digital camera that takes color, and thinking as I usually do, in black and white. All these six pictures are istD/FA16-45, taken to BW in Photoshop via channel mixer, using settings that try to imitate how Tri-X renders color tones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/jbstreet/show/ [that goes to a nice flickr slideshow--if that doesn't work, go here and click on the thumbnails:] http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/jbstreet Comments appreciated. j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: PESO - Pinnacles 5
Hi Bruce I think i like this one the best. There is shadow in the forground but i can make out good detail. The sky is a nice blue and i like how the clouds seem to be leaving a trail. The more is see from your DA 16-45 F4 the more i'm leaning towards that kit. Dave Ok, this is the last Pinnacles shot I will share. I tried to not sharpen as much when downsizing this one, as a few mentioned that previous ones looked unnatural. Anyway, Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, circular polarizer, handheld: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0026.htm Comments welcome. Bruce
RE: What series lens do I have?
Thanks group! I'm archiving much more lens development history than I'll likely need. Every answer appreciated. Jack --- Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first of the Pentax bayonet lenses were not given a letter designation, they are commonly refered to as K lenses after the mount type. (As opposed to M42 screw mount)If you have a good imagination the one long and two short flanges on the mount form the letter K if connected by lines. ;-/ The M series was next and was known for being lighter and smaller than their predecessors. Then came the A or KA lenses, these have the A setting and contacts to allow them to work in Program mode on cameras so equipped, such as the Super Program and on up to the ist D/DS. Then came the KAF and KAF2 which added autofocus. These are given the F, FA and FAJ letters. FAJ's have no aperture ring and aperture must be set on the camera. Now we have the DA lenses with a smaller image circle to match the the APS size sensor in the ist D and ist DS. They are KAF2 mount. The neat thing is all K mount lenses are Backward Compatible. (Except for the DA and FAJ) And more letters to follow...(We all hope!) ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What series lens do I have? Among those lens series' referenced on this list, is one designated as K. In addition to those in my bag carrying the letter ID's; FA, A, ,M is one without an alpha ID. The markings are limited to: ASAHI OPT. CO., Japan smc PENTAX 1:2.8 24mm 6983748. It takes a 52mm filter. Is this a K lens? Knowing will not change my sleep pattern, but the question was left alone in my head again. Thanks, Jack __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: PAW: Reflections of Fall
Hi Kenneth I really like this one. I like how the colours work together,and the reflection. I trhink someone mentioned the forground focus,but i think its not to bad as is. Dave Brooks Please check out Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html MZ-S, 70-210mm F, Velvia @ 50. Would have been my December PUG if I could get a round tuit. Comment: Yea, Nay or otherwise. Thanks in advance for looking commenting. Kenneth Waller
Re: What series lens do I have?
That is more or less true but Pentax never officially designated the SMCP lenses as K series lenses. All lenses since the introduction of the K mount are properly K lenses. (Some might give me an argument about the DA and FAJ lenses but I don't think Pentax officially makes a distinction), Jon Glass wrote: On Nov 27, 2004, at 5:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The K designation was unofficial. I think Pentax users just invented that to distinguish that first series of lens options from the later ones. Oh, I thought the K series matched the fact that they came out with the K cameras, and the M series came out with the M series cameras, and the A series came out with the A series cameras??? At least, that is my interpretation, based on the K-Mount Page... -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
I frequently use my SMC Pentax 50/1.4 with my *istD, It's probably my most used lens for tabletop shots in the studio. I didn't participate in this thread, because I figured we had run this topic into the ground several times in the past. But I'll be happy to add that in addition to the above mentioned K 50/j1.4, I have a Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50/1.4, an SMC Pentax 55/1.8, an M 50/1.7, and an M 50/4 macro. They're all quite good. But only the K 50/1.4 and the M 50/4 macro see much use. I've been watching for a good deal on an FA 50/1.4, and will eventually add that to my collection. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 9:01 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Maybe but with all those PDMLers who have converted to, or now primarily use, the istd and similar cameras, it's not surprising that the ubiquitous 50mm lens has fallen somewhat from favor. Just a guess or maybe the list population is busy digesting turkey and out shopping or preparing their Christmas lists ;-)) And hasn't Pentax dropped the 1.7 in the autofocus variations? Shel [Original Message] From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I like my lenses (otherwise I wouldn't have them), and especially like the 1.7 for its size and light weight, it doesn't, to my eye, have any particularly outstanding optical characteristics. Yes, Shel, I personally would agree. However, I was just hoping to get some of the as-yet-unheard-from 50/1.7 fans involved in the discussion. After all, a thread on Pentax's Best 50mm Lens would theoretically be relevant to almost any PDML member - g. Fred
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
my A 1.7 is my most used lens. most favorite to. i have no idea why people complain about its build quality -- i find it quite good and smooth. and sharp too. and because it's quite a bit lighter, i use it more than 1.4, together with MX (not optio -- the real one) best, mishka On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:22:17 -0500, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any of the manual focus 50/1.7's. I love the 50/1.4 but I have never had one that was quite as good as a 1.7 at the same f-stop. I'm surprised that we didn't hear more from the lovers of the f/1.7 versions, of which there are a few here on the PDML - I would have guessed that this thread (emphasizing optics and not aperture ring notchiness - g) would have brought 'em out of the woodwork Fred
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
They do, but delivery is delayed since they don't roll very well... Cotty wrote: On 26/11/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: This certificate entitles the bearer to: One(1) official, licensed, patented and copy righted *ROUND TUIT Please mail with $2.00 for postage and handling to: The General Tuit Corp. 123 Doit Tuit Drive Dept. BULL-001 Tuit, Mass. 12345-1234 (Please specify Round to recieve the proper Tuit) You don't do the square kind? fft Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PESO: The Wilderness Ride
Not a PAW, because my personal guideline is that PAWs are for new photos. I found this while digging through the archives for my PUG yesterday. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2898612size=lg Comments are always welcome. cheers, frank Nice one Frank. You have captured,speed and excitment in the picture. Nicely framed to. Dave
Re: PESO: Buck at my Door
For the time you had to shoot this,i'd say it turned out fine. Only on ebit of the white seems blown out on my monitor. Dave Here's a snap shot taken earlier today. This is a buck resting against a planter in my front lawn , just 30 feet from our front door: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2899066 The lighting was pretty bad, and the white spots on the buck are badly blown out, but this was the best I could do before he got up and ran away. Dan Matyola Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com
Re: What series lens do I have?
Jeez, I think I paid $20 for mine. Don Sanderson wrote: Here's a prime example of that by Adorama, who should know better: http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20146759.html AFAIK the 55/1.8 didn't come in an M. (This is a pretty good deal on the K though, they seem to be getting pretty hard to find.) Don -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:37 AM To: Fred Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? In addition, the distinctions between each series is not always correctly applied by sellers (and I'm not just picking on eBay here, either) - it is not uncommon for some sellers to refer to ~any~ pre-A K-mount lens as an M lens, even if sometimes, of course, a particular pre-A lens might actually be a K lens. So it can be a case of buyer be aware. Just another thought on this: Often the incorrect distinction is easily spotted (and only merits a cognoscenti chuckle or two g) - there are no M versions of certain lenses (e.g., 15/3.5, 85/1.8, etc.) - but sometimes there is indeed a chance of confusion (e.g., with the 50/1.4's, certainly). Fred -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What series lens do I have?
, I'd probably still try to sue the lens. ...and, without a good lawyer, I'd probably lose... g Make that use - sheepish grin Fred
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
The M 1.7 is a bit sharper in the corners than the m 2.0 and is the recommended lens, due to superior flatness of field, over the 50 f 1.4's when using a bellows. I got rid of the only SMCP M 50 2.0 I ever owned after comparing the results to the SMCP-M. 50 1.7. Still as I said I find myself using the 43mm Ltd a lot more, even though they are roughly the same size. Fred wrote: While I like my lenses (otherwise I wouldn't have them), and especially like the 1.7 for its size and light weight, it doesn't, to my eye, have any particularly outstanding optical characteristics. Yes, Shel, I personally would agree. However, I was just hoping to get some of the as-yet-unheard-from 50/1.7 fans involved in the discussion. After all, a thread on Pentax's Best 50mm Lens would theoretically be relevant to almost any PDML member - g. Fred -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: What lens do you find is on your *istD most often
1. 24mm f/2.8 SMC-A 2. 14mm f/2.8 DA 3. 50mm f/1.4 SMC-A 4. 90mm f/2.8 Tamron Macro I also use at times the 50mm f/2.8 SMC-A Macro, 100mm f/2.8 SMC-A, and 200mm f/4 SMC-M. The same lenses also do service on my MZ-S, including the 14mm DA. A manual focus prime sort of guy I suppose ;) Nick
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
because I figured we had run this topic into the ground several times in the past. But, that's never stopped us before, so why should it now? g Heck, twenty years from now, when probably most of the PDML members are using zooms all the time, and, to the rest, a 50mm lens is just a special-purpose portrait lens (assuming that APS-sized sensors remain the norm, although I hope not), there'll still be a few of us old codgers that'll be willing to beat the Pentax's Best 50mm Lens discussion into the ground once more... Fred
Re: What series lens do I have?
Sure it would work, but you would lose direct control of the lenses aperture. Jon Glass wrote: On Nov 27, 2004, at 3:18 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: The neat thing is all K mount lenses are Backward Compatible. (Except for the DA and FAJ) Would an FAJ lens work on, say, a Program Plus, which can operate in program mode, setting the aperture for you? or will it not work at all? (not that it matters now that I sold my P+, although it is always possible I'll buy another or similar in the future). -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What series lens do I have?
Fred wrote: snip for both forward-in-time and backward-in-time directions), I'd probably still try to sue the lens. this really has become a litigious society... Fred -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What lens do you find is on your *istD most often
my first choice is FA*28-70/2.8. Jostein
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
The M 1.7 is a bit sharper in the corners than the m 2.0 and is the recommended lens, due to superior flatness of field, over the 50 f 1.4's when using a bellows. I got rid of the only SMCP M 50 2.0 I ever owned after comparing the results to the SMCP-M. 50 1.7. Yes, I don't think even Pentax recommends the 50/1.4 for flat-field work. You mention the M 50/2. I wonder how an A 50/2 work work. It is my opinion that the lens design that was changed the most from M to A models was the 50/2. The A 50/2 is quite a best buy for almost generic (g) 50's... Fred
Re: What series lens do I have?
for both forward-in-time and backward-in-time directions), I'd probably still try to sue the lens. this really has become a litigious society... Har! Fred
Re: Pentax 67 vs 6x7
Stop being jealous Cotty, just because I left you for Jack and took your figurines when I walked out Norm Cotty wrote: On 24/11/04, César, discombobulated, unleashed: GFMtn is bad for its enablement - thanks Bob and Bruce. And let us not forget Norm - his battered 67 is just up my alley... And I never knew he cared!
Re: What series lens do I have?
I'm sure you heard about the group of lawyers who got together and opened a chain of Japanese restaurants. They're called Sosumi Shel [Original Message] From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] , I'd probably still try to sue the lens. ...and, without a good lawyer, I'd probably lose... g Make that use - sheepish grin Fred
RE: What series lens do I have?
I got mine with a broken K1000, but now that I've been looking for a second one to keep with the D there are very few to be had. I won't pay the Adorama price either but I may live to regret not doing so. Don -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? Jeez, I think I paid $20 for mine. Don Sanderson wrote: Here's a prime example of that by Adorama, who should know better: http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20146759.html AFAIK the 55/1.8 didn't come in an M. (This is a pretty good deal on the K though, they seem to be getting pretty hard to find.) Don -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:37 AM To: Fred Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? In addition, the distinctions between each series is not always correctly applied by sellers (and I'm not just picking on eBay here, either) - it is not uncommon for some sellers to refer to ~any~ pre-A K-mount lens as an M lens, even if sometimes, of course, a particular pre-A lens might actually be a K lens. So it can be a case of buyer be aware. Just another thought on this: Often the incorrect distinction is easily spotted (and only merits a cognoscenti chuckle or two g) - there are no M versions of certain lenses (e.g., 15/3.5, 85/1.8, etc.) - but sometimes there is indeed a chance of confusion (e.g., with the 50/1.4's, certainly). Fred -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
Hi Peter, I didn't know that ... might be worthwhile using the 50/1.7 for some closeup work then. Thanks! Shel [Original Message] From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] The M 1.7 is a bit sharper in the corners than the m 2.0 and is the recommended lens, due to superior flatness of field, over the 50 f 1.4's when using a bellows.
RE: What series lens do I have?
:-/ -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What series lens do I have? I'm sure you heard about the group of lawyers who got together and opened a chain of Japanese restaurants. They're called Sosumi Shel
RE: SPAM-LOW: Tamron style lens caps
Does anyone know where these are available in all different sizes, I've had no luck so far finding 49,52,55,58 and 67mm. 72 and 77 I found. Adorama has lens caps from Hama with inner grip, but only inner grip, not inner and outer like the Tamron caps. They have them in 49mm and probably other sizes as well. I buy them for all my lenses.
RE: SPAM-LOW: Tamron style lens caps
Outstanding, thanks Amita! Don -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Tamron style lens caps Does anyone know where these are available in all different sizes, I've had no luck so far finding 49,52,55,58 and 67mm. 72 and 77 I found. Adorama has lens caps from Hama with inner grip, but only inner grip, not inner and outer like the Tamron caps. They have them in 49mm and probably other sizes as well. I buy them for all my lenses.
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated as much as possible - I appreciate you probably shot RAW Take the Raw file, adjust the white balance for tungsten (for the interior). Open it again, and adjust the white balance for daylight (for the exterior). Overlay them as seperate layers, erase the offending parts (I'd put the ouside layer on the bottom, then erase the windows from the top (inside) layer. Merge the layers. Voila! William Robb
RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
I'm surprised that we didn't hear more from the lovers of the f/1.7 versions, of which there are a few here on the PDML - I would have guessed that this thread (emphasizing optics and not aperture ring notchiness - g) would have brought 'em out of the woodwork Oh, I love my A 1.7, but I've never had the 1.4, so I can't do a comparative analysis. All I can say is that it's the sharpest, most contrasty 50mm prime I have, but that's only comparing it to all the f/2s I have lying around. Amita
Re: PESO: ist D black and white
Shel, Cesar, others: I'm suspecting a monitor gamma thing at play here. The skin tones don't look dark in my Powerbook. I'll try saving the files with an embedded profile, that might help. Where did you get the settings that emulate Tri-X? What I did was to take a comparison between a color photo and a Tri-X photo of the same scene (for an example, check here: http://www.silveroxide.com/MorePixes.htm ), and play in Photoshop with the channel mixer until I could make the color image look like the Tri-X one. Then I saved the settings as an action. The url above doesn't have a real Tri-X image though, I cannot find the images I originally used. I'd like to see these, or at least some of them, larger (the women with the dog, guy with buckets, and the Chinese market pics). Can you put them up somewhere with an 800 or so pixel width? Will do. I have to reconvert them from the raw files though, I initially converted at 800 pixels just to preview them... j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
Quoting Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but with all those PDMLers who have converted to, or now primarily use, the istd and similar cameras, it's not surprising that the ubiquitous 50mm lens has fallen somewhat from favor. This is perhaps true. And hasn't Pentax dropped the 1.7 in the autofocus variations? Gee, I think that there are (or, at least were) F and FA 50/1.7's. Fred I have an autofocus 50/1.7 which I think is an F not FA but I couldn't guarantee it. Bought second-hand, not recently. Hope this clarifies something. :-) ERNR
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
I didn't get Cotty's message, so I'm guessing what the rest of it was. I think flash would have pretty much wiped this out. I wanted f11 to keep most of the room in focus. With enough flash to control color at that stop, the tree lights would have been all but invisible. I wanted something in between a tungsten light feel and a fully corrected look. So I did shoot raw at the tungsten preset and then warmed it up a bit. I don't mind the outside being blue. It contributes to the sense of cold. Bill's layer fix is something I've done before when it mattered more. I may reshoot this for stock without the chairs and small table. But rather than layer it, I'll probably wait until it's a bit darker. That way I won't have to move the grill g. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 12:32 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated as much as possible - I appreciate you probably shot RAW Take the Raw file, adjust the white balance for tungsten (for the interior). Open it again, and adjust the white balance for daylight (for the exterior). Overlay them as seperate layers, erase the offending parts (I'd put the ouside layer on the bottom, then erase the windows from the top (inside) layer. Merge the layers. Voila! William Robb
Re: PESO: ist D black and white
Hi Juan, My comment wasn't so much about skin tones as it was about overall mid-range tonality being compressed. Of course, skin tones often fall into that range. Perhaps that's a bit of nit picking for some, but as a long time Tri-X user, it's those middle tones that keep me coming back. That's not to say that the tonality of your pics is poor - in fact, I like a lot of what I see on the screen (that's in part why I want to see them larger), I just don't see it quite as Tri-X like as you may, or may have hoped to see. If you want to post or send a RAW file, please do. Well, come to think of it, with my dial-up connection it'll take me forever to download it. Maybe you can put one or two on a CD and snail-mail it in my direction. Possible? In any case, the conversion to BW looks pretty good - a lot better than many that I've seen. Have you tried printing the pics? Shel [Original Message] From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/27/2004 10:02:14 AM Subject: Re: PESO: ist D black and white Shel, Cesar, others: I'm suspecting a monitor gamma thing at play here. The skin tones don't look dark in my Powerbook. I'll try saving the files with an embedded profile, that might help. Where did you get the settings that emulate Tri-X? What I did was to take a comparison between a color photo and a Tri-X photo of the same scene (for an example, check here: http://www.silveroxide.com/MorePixes.htm ), and play in Photoshop with the channel mixer until I could make the color image look like the Tri-X one. Then I saved the settings as an action. The url above doesn't have a real Tri-X image though, I cannot find the images I originally used. I'd like to see these, or at least some of them, larger (the women with the dog, guy with buckets, and the Chinese market pics). Can you put them up somewhere with an 800 or so pixel width? Will do. I have to reconvert them from the raw files though, I initially converted at 800 pixels just to preview them... j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Best way to convert to BW using PS Elements v2.0 or Microsoft Digital Image Pro v7.0?
Hi all, I don't have Photosop yet. I have been working with PS Elements and Microsoft Digital Image Pro v7.0. Does anyone have any suggestions for the best way to convert istD images into BW? Maybe Pentax's software is better? TIA for any ideas, I really appreciate it! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
Quoting Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: my A 1.7 is my most used lens. most favorite to. i have no idea why people complain about its build quality -- i find it quite good and smooth. and sharp too. and because it's quite a bit lighter, i use it more than 1.4, together with MX (not optio -- the real one) I had one of those -- A 50/1.7 -- its aperture ring was stuck when I got it, and after repair it worked OK for a while and then started to get stiff again and difficult. Having, by that time, the F 50/1.7 (I know I said in another message I wasn't sure if it was F or FA, well now that I've looked on Boz's site I've id'd it as an F) for use with the PZ-1, when I bought my LX I also bought an M 50/1.4 and got rid of that problem-child A lens quick. So if you ever heard *me* complain of the build quality, that would be why. However, as César and I recently discussed in yet another thread, one's mileage may vary quite a bit with gear. ERNR
RE: Best way to convert to BW using PS Elements v2.0 or Microsoft Digital Image Pro v7.0?
Does Elements use layers and the Hue Saturation or Channel Mixer adjustments? If so, try these choices: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/color2bw.html Shel [Original Message] From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have Photosop yet. I have been working with PS Elements and Microsoft Digital Image Pro v7.0. Does anyone have any suggestions for the best way to convert istD images into BW? Maybe Pentax's software is better? TIA for any ideas, I really appreciate it! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)
I tried Bill Robb's suggested layer fix. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2914383size=lg The original is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg I prefer it with Bill's fix. It's still sufficiently gloomy outside, but the blue isn't so intrusive. Good idea, Bill. Next time I'll move that grill. In fact, if I get bored, maybe I'll paint it out later. It's a bit of work with the window panes, but it could be done. On Nov 27, 2004, at 1:21 PM, Paul wrote: I didn't get Cotty's message, so I'm guessing what the rest of it was. I think flash would have pretty much wiped this out. I wanted f11 to keep most of the room in focus. With enough flash to control color at that stop, the tree lights would have been all but invisible. I wanted something in between a tungsten light feel and a fully corrected look. So I did shoot raw at the tungsten preset and then warmed it up a bit. I don't mind the outside being blue. It contributes to the sense of cold. Bill's layer fix is something I've done before when it mattered more. I may reshoot this for stock without the chairs and small table. But rather than layer it, I'll probably wait until it's a bit darker. That way I won't have to move the grill g. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 12:32 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated as much as possible - I appreciate you probably shot RAW Take the Raw file, adjust the white balance for tungsten (for the interior). Open it again, and adjust the white balance for daylight (for the exterior). Overlay them as seperate layers, erase the offending parts (I'd put the ouside layer on the bottom, then erase the windows from the top (inside) layer. Merge the layers. Voila! William Robb
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
i guess i've been lucky. my other 50s are A 1.2, A 1.4 and M 1.4 (which is now for sale). i like them all. best, mishka On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:32:52 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had one of those -- A 50/1.7 -- its aperture ring was stuck when I got it, and after repair it worked OK for a while and then started to get stiff again and difficult. Having, by that time, the F 50/1.7 (I know I said in another message I wasn't sure if it was F or FA, well now that I've looked on Boz's site I've id'd it as an F) for use with the PZ-1, when I bought my LX I also bought an M 50/1.4 and got rid of that problem-child A lens quick. So if you ever heard *me* complain of the build quality, that would be why. However, as César and I recently discussed in yet another thread, one's mileage may vary quite a bit with gear. ERNR
PESO: Alexandra
Last week, we saw my friend's 2 1/2 month old baby for the first time. I'm still learning to shoot indoors, but this shot was one of the non-blurry ones. I corrected for the yellow cast in Capture One. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/300338 Amita
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 11:32:51AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated as much as possible - I appreciate you probably shot RAW Take the Raw file, adjust the white balance for tungsten (for the interior). Open it again, and adjust the white balance for daylight (for the exterior). Overlay them as seperate layers, erase the offending parts (I'd put the ouside layer on the bottom, then erase the windows from the top (inside) layer. Merge the layers. Voila! William Robb That would take away some of the appeal of the shot, IMO. I really like the way the warm room interior is thrown into harsh contrast with the cold blue exterior.
RE: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)
Hi Paul I couldn't help myself. Just had to jump in here: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/pauls-tree.jpg Tried to get it to look a little more like it was later in the evening without totally disappearing the bluish tint outside and preserving the blue lights on the tree. Selected the blue I wanted to preserve, inverted the selection, used Hue/Saturation adjustment to adjust the blue and cyan outside, using only saturation and lightness. Just did a QD sample what do you think? Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/27/2004 10:42:49 AM Subject: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving) I tried Bill Robb's suggested layer fix. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2914383size=lg The original is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg I prefer it with Bill's fix. It's still sufficiently gloomy outside, but the blue isn't so intrusive. Good idea, Bill. Next time I'll move that grill. In fact, if I get bored, maybe I'll paint it out later. It's a bit of work with the window panes, but it could be done.
Re: M series lens questions
Two others: the 28-50mm the 80-200mm. The two macro lenses mentionned earlier were different as the K had 52mm ring and the M, 49mm. Andre at least one, 2000mm reflex K and M. Herb - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: M series lens questions right, there is no M 15mm lens. This brings up the question, did pentax ever relabel any of the K lenses as M with exact same optical and mechanical design? ( i.e. they relabelled it M because it was already a very compact design by industry standards when initially released as a K?)
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
On 27 Nov 2004 at 10:51, Mishka wrote: my A 1.7 is my most used lens. most favorite to. i have no idea why people complain about its build quality -- i find it quite good and smooth. If you use it as an aperture priority lens off the A setting and have a finer lens to compare it to you'll soon realize why. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
That'll get ya into the holiday mood. Looks real comfy, like a movie set. All you need is a good book, your favorite adult beverage a fire in the fire place. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:02 PM Subject: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long needle Scotch Pine this year. We haven't had one of those in many years. Different is fun. Anyway, I shot it with the DA 16-45. I dialed in about plus 1.5 exposure compensation at f11, and positioned the camera on a cabinet. The exposure was around half a second I think. In any case, here it is. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg
RE: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)
On 27 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul I couldn't help myself. Just had to jump in here: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/pauls-tree.jpg The problem with this method is that you still have to deal with the original tungsten colour temperature conversion so de-saturating makes it come out an un- natural cyan. If I had access to the RAW file I would have used the original tungsten conversion and built a mask using the deep blue then made a daylight conversion (set the level to emulate dusk) and used the mask to overlay it, best of both worlds. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
i have never used it on A setting (my two bodies are MX and LX). oh, the lens is four years old, i bought it as a demo (basically, new) from Adorama for $50. i think that was the best $50 spent on any photo gear i have. best, mishka On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:18:56 +1000, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Nov 2004 at 10:51, Mishka wrote: my A 1.7 is my most used lens. most favorite to. i have no idea why people complain about its build quality -- i find it quite good and smooth. If you use it as an aperture priority lens off the A setting and have a finer lens to compare it to you'll soon realize why.
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Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
On 27 Nov 2004 at 16:48, Mishka wrote: i have never used it on A setting (my two bodies are MX and LX). oh, the lens is four years old, i bought it as a demo (basically, new) from Adorama for $50. i think that was the best $50 spent on any photo gear i have. I've still got one A50/1.7 and out of the four I've owned at various stages none have been spectacular build wise. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Tamron style lens caps
So far I have only seen Tamron, Pentax (Tamron clone), Nikon (new style) and a brandless caps (Nikon clone on eBay) with this fearure you mentioned. I have seen Tamron at a local retailer, and BH carry the Tamon, Pentax Nikon too. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan That should be Someone mentioned! :-( And I might add they don't need to be Tamron brand just a style with the center grips.
Re: What series lens do I have?
Hi, I'm sure you heard about the group of lawyers who got together and opened a chain of Japanese restaurants. They're called Sosumi Apparently Apple Computer used the name to goad Apple Corp (the Beatles), after a lawsuit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)
I think it works. It appears to be virtually identical to the layer fix that I did following Bill's suggestion. I think the ultimate fix is going to be to shoot it when it's dark outside :-) Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 2:32 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul I couldn't help myself. Just had to jump in here: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/pauls-tree.jpg Tried to get it to look a little more like it was later in the evening without totally disappearing the bluish tint outside and preserving the blue lights on the tree. Selected the blue I wanted to preserve, inverted the selection, used Hue/Saturation adjustment to adjust the blue and cyan outside, using only saturation and lightness. Just did a QD sample what do you think? Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/27/2004 10:42:49 AM Subject: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving) I tried Bill Robb's suggested layer fix. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2914383size=lg The original is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg I prefer it with Bill's fix. It's still sufficiently gloomy outside, but the blue isn't so intrusive. Good idea, Bill. Next time I'll move that grill. In fact, if I get bored, maybe I'll paint it out later. It's a bit of work with the window panes, but it could be done.
Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
I've still got one A50/1.7 and out of the four I've owned at various stages none have been spectacular build wise. Rob Studdert Can you make your way along these? Andre The leaf springs that push the A button out will fall off the lens and foul the aperture ring movement. I've repaired it on the A28/2.8. The repair is trivial, the disassembly isn't tough...just keep track of the little ball bearing that makes the clicks for the aperture stops. Bob S. The problem associated with the all plastic 'A' prime lenses (and some 'F' lenses too) has to do with the material being chosen, and the structural designs. I tried cleaning and relubricating but only worked for a week or so, then the problem came back. It was better if the bearing was removed, but not exactly a solution. 'A' lenses with metal body + plastic aperture ring are okay (like A50/1.4 or A70-210/4). Alan Chan Common problem with the A50/1.7. The aperture ring is plastic, rather than metal as on the A50/1.4, and it wears readily. Also the springs that tension the A button sometimes break off. They can be reattached, but it 's a bit tricky and takes some creativity. Mark Roberts If you are careful, you can take the aperture ring off and glue the leaf springs down with super glue. The only tricky part is doing it slowly and not looseing the tiny ball bearing that makes the f stops go click. But you should be handy with small parts and have patience. Bob S. What I did to repair mine was to clean all the lubricant from the area with spirits. And then use a slow setting epoxy glue to re-attach the spring making sure that no glue fouled the rotating parts of the mechanism. I'd stay away from cyanoacrylates (ie Super Glue®) as it can foul surfaces whilst curing. Rob Studdert If you fix this problem, I favor a very, very small dot of JB weld (epoxy) as I always have it around for many other purposes. It too requires that the lens remain unassembled for a few days as with all glues and epoxies, but after 24 hrs there is less out gassing and it will NEVER fail. In addition to being useful to bind things together, this stuff can be used to form parts and can be filed, sanded, milled, drilled and polished. Bob... I actually drilled a hole where the broken plastic spike used to be and re-attached the spring with a tiny screw (how Pentax should have done it in the first place). Mark Roberts I can strip and rebuild a BMW 3.0 liter inline 6, I can balance the carbs on a 12 cylinder E-type Jaguar by ear, and I can diagnose and repair almost any photo lab problem, but those darned A series lenses don't like me at all. William Robb
