Interesting find

[David Mann]

Hi all,
A pawn shop here is closing down and they're having a big sale to get 
rid of their stock.  I went in today to see what they had left, and 
found something I'd never seen before.

A genuine Asahi Pentax 67mm polarizing filter specifically made for 
Pentax 6x7 lenses (it's bayonet mounting).  There was no price on it so 
the guy offered it to me for NZ$50 - a bit higher than I'd have liked 
but he wouldn't budge so I bought it anyway.  At today's exchange rate 
that's... about US$35.  I have no idea what it's really worth, either 
new or secondhand.  B&H have a number of the 6x7 filters listed but not 
this one (no, it's not the horrendously expensive drop-in polarizer for 
the big lenses).

It appears to be a circular polarizer as it doesn't affect the metered 
prism finder.  The design is quite clever: the front does not rotate 
which is a very good feature if you have a lens hood attached.

It fits the 90mm f/2.8 and the 165mm f/2.8 nicely.  I guess I now need 
the 82mm version to fit my other lenses, but considering how often I 
use the things I probably shouldn't have even bought this one.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

RE: One More Try -- LX with SMC-M 50/1.4 & FA-1 finder

[handmaid]

Aaron - 'I put some new foam in the back rails a few months ago.' Every LX I've 
seen (about seven) has a rubber gasket around the back, not foam. The rubber 
gasket doesn't perish like foam and thus doesn't need replacing... what is it 
you have done?

Handmaid

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FS: SF eyepiece cover; Pentax hoods; SM ER case; Olympus AD2

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

Hi folks,

The following are for sale; please contact me off-list. No Paypal, so
things may be difficult for our overseas fellows.

- SF-series eyepiece cover. Good condition.

- SF-series flash hotshoe cover. Has a mark but works fine.

- SMC Pentax (K) round hood for 135/2.5, 200/4, 85-210/4.5 (58 mm).
  This is clip-on. One of the springs is lazy but I never had any
  problems.

- SMC Pentax (K) rectangular hood with (tired) leather holder for
  50/1.4 and 50/1.7 (49mm). Lettering a bit worn, but springs
  excellent.

- Takumar rectangular hood for 28/3.5. This is the twist-on bayonet
  type (49mm). Some surface brassing, but *very* tightly fitting.

- Spottie era leather ever-ready case. Fairly worn.

- Olympus AD2 with rear cap. I don't have an Olympus (came with a
  lens) to test it but if it does not work your money will fly back to
  you in a flash (incl postage).

Let me know,

Kostas

Adaptall 2 for Pentax, which one ?

[Jens Bladt]

Do any of you know which Adaptall mount I should look for, if I want to use
a Tamron lens that will allow for uisng shutter priority or programed AE on
a "A"-series body, perhaps even on the *ist D (provided I use a "A-series
Tamron lens")?

It seems there are more than one Adaptall 2 mount (R1 and ...?)
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

[mike wilson]

Hi,
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/hanging.html
Is this the full version of the segment of negative you showed us before 
Christmas?

mike

Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[mike wilson]

John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:30:00AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, if you *will* use web browsers as mail clients ...
Agreed.  I have to set the one at work to accept html mail, as many of the dipsticks who are supposed to be running the place think it's good to send 15Kb messages to ask simple questions.  

I won't do that for my primary mail program.  Well, it *accepts*
html mail, but it displays it as text, complete with all the tags.
That means it's all but impossible to understand what is being said. 
As a result, those questions don't get answered.

Occasionally I fire up an alternative mail program (usually when
there is an attachment I really want to extract, or somesuch).
I then go back and review any outstanding malformed messages.
Pretty much the same for me, at home.  At work, with the power mad (they 
think that "being in charge of" means "have power over" rather than "be 
responsible for") little masturbators in "management" positions, it is 
easier to leave it in HTML mode and not have to explain for the 
umpteenth time to their walnut-sized brains (which I suspect _are_ 
located in their nether regions) that they are abusing a system.

mike
feeling better now but I might do that again for fun.

AW: OT-Coffee Theory

[Michael Heim]

Never (!) turkish coffee without sugar. But with sugar it's delicious...

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Januar 2005 00:43
An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Betreff: Re: OT-Coffee Theory


Oh no! Cowboy Coffee is boiled, and boiled, and boiled, and boiled some
more. 
The only time they thought it was too strong was when the bottom was
eaten out 
of the pot (GRIN). Think over cooked Turkish coffee without sugar.


Here is how to make good Campfire Coffee:

One #10 tin can (of course you can use something else but this is
traditional)

3/4 full of cold water (cold is very important)

Pinch of salt (neutralizes some of the bitterness)

3 hand fulls of course ground coffee --adjust to taste from experience
(let set 
on top of the water, DO NOT STIR)

3 egg shells (optional, but removes a lot of the kerosene that makes
coffee so 
bitter)

Put on fire until it just starts to boil (when the grounds sink)

Remove from fire

Pour 1/2 cup of cold water over the top to settle grounds.

Pour into cups carefully so as not to raise the grounds from the bottom
of the can.



graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:41:17 -0500, Graywolf wrote:
> 
> 
>>Actually I think the best coffee is campfire (boiled) coffee if it is 
>>done right. I learned how to make it from a chef. Since I have known 
>>people to come from all over a campground to get mine, I guess others 
>>agree with me.
> 
> 
> We always called that "Cowboy Coffee".  I've never developed the knack

> for getting something drinkable that way.  I ended up getting an 
> aluminum percolator that I can put on the grate over the fire to perc 
> coffee.
> 
> 
> TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
> 
> 
> 
> 


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AW: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Michael Heim]

Outlook 2002 doesn't.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Januar 2005 01:28
An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Betreff: Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited


So does Outlook Express...

Regards,
Bob...

From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> John Francis wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> 
> 
> Netscape mail client thinks this is an email address.  Wonder if it's
> where the DSLR fairy lives?

Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Bob W]

Hi,

> Pretty much the same for me, at home.  At work, with the power mad (they
> think that "being in charge of" means "have power over" rather than "be
> responsible for") little masturbators in "management" positions, it is
> easier to leave it in HTML mode and not have to explain for the 
> umpteenth time to their walnut-sized brains (which I suspect _are_ 
> located in their nether regions) that they are abusing a system.

> mike
> feeling better now but I might do that again for fun.

perhaps you're not using the right type of language to talk to them.

Tell them that you're going to enterprise-solution the end-to-end turnkey
delivery of an innovative customer-centered value-add which transitions
fast-track authoring for a communicatively architected stripped-down
point-to-point global email solution for the enterprise.

And do it with Powerpoint.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob (That'll be $50,000.00 please) Ripov, MBA

Re: Adaptall 2 for Pentax, which one ?

[Jim Colwell]

Jens Bladt wrote:
> Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:32:09 -0800

> Do any of you know which Adaptall mount I should look for, if I want to se
> a Tamron lens that will allow for using shutter priority or programed AE
on
> a "A"-series body, perhaps even on the *ist D (provided I use a "A-series
> Tamron lens")?

> It seems there are more than one Adaptall 2 mount (R1 and ...?)
> All the best

> Jens Bladt

I have an Adaptall-2 which works fine in AE mode with a Tamron SP 1:5.6
300mm Tele Macro BBAR MC Model 54 lens on MZ-5N, MZ-7 and SuperProgram
bodies.  The lens body has an aperture setting labelled 'AE' which is linked
by underline to the "32" aperture setting.  I purchased the adapter new
about three years ago, and I still have the box and owner's manual (sheet of
paper, really).  To quote the Adaptall-2 manual "...due to limitations of
Pentax cameras, the minimum aperture of F/32 cannot be used even if your
lens has this minimum aperture", and "The position of F/32 serves as AE".

The adapter's box is labelled "ADAPTALL-2 CUSTOM MOUNT MONTURE ADAPTALL 2"
on all six sides, and it additionally says "for Tamron MF Lenses" on the
front and back of the box.  The only place where it mentions Pentax is on
the top flap in the UPC area, where it says "O2C PENTAX-K".  The "O2C"
designation may be important, but I don't know.  The adapter itself is only
labelled "TAMRON", "P/KA" and "JAPAN", with the these three labels on
different parts of the adapter base plate, which contacts the camera mount
when the lens is on the body.  The base plate also has three "button"
electrical contacts which mate with the body's AE lens interface.  These
electrical contacts are not visible on the inside face of the adapter, which
goes "in" the lens body, but you can see a small circuit board with
spring-clip electrical contacts just inside this inside face of the adapter.
This circuit board is a slim arc of an annulus which spans about 1/4 or
90deg of the inner circumference.

In order to activate the AE aperture control, you have to depress the small
black tab at about 7 o'clock on the adapter, in the same way as you have to
push the little button on an -A or newer Pentax lens.  When the lens is
mounted, this AE tab is horizontally opposite from the K-mount release
button on the body.  I have found that it is possible to mount the adapter
so that manual aperture control works, but AE does not.  I think the key
(besides depressing the little tab), is to ensure that the other flatter and
wider tabs are fully rotated clockwise when looking at the base of the
adapter.  Generally, I mount it and rotate things until it all works.

BTW, the adapter is FS - contact me through my web site if want more info.

Jim
www.jcolwell.ca

Re: Adaptall 2 for Pentax, which one ?

[mike wilson]

K/A
Make sure you get a promise for return.  They can be faulty with it 
being obvious.

mike
Jens Bladt wrote:
Do any of you know which Adaptall mount I should look for, if I want to use
a Tamron lens that will allow for uisng shutter priority or programed AE on
a "A"-series body, perhaps even on the *ist D (provided I use a "A-series
Tamron lens")?
It seems there are more than one Adaptall 2 mount (R1 and ...?)
All the best
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

*istDS - first thoughts

[Derby Chang]

Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm
D

Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:
Hi,

Pretty much the same for me, at home.  At work, with the power mad (they
think that "being in charge of" means "have power over" rather than "be
responsible for") little masturbators in "management" positions, it is
easier to leave it in HTML mode and not have to explain for the 
umpteenth time to their walnut-sized brains (which I suspect _are_ 
located in their nether regions) that they are abusing a system.

mike
feeling better now but I might do that again for fun.

perhaps you're not using the right type of language to talk to them.
Tell them that you're going to enterprise-solution the end-to-end turnkey
delivery of an innovative customer-centered value-add which transitions
fast-track authoring for a communicatively architected stripped-down
point-to-point global email solution for the enterprise.
And do it with Powerpoint.
Would that be with one of the 200(!!!) laptops we have had stolen in the 
last year?

Calibrating for CCD/CMOS noise

[Frantisek]

Hi,
   I don't remember this appearing here, but after some thought on how
   to reduce fixed noise in long exposure photos (where a lot of the
   noise is fixed and not random because of effects of additional
   circuitry and temperature), I found this very interesting article
   on photo.net exactly about this, reducing fixed/bias noise in
   sensors.

http://www.photo.net/learn/dark_noise/

   I will do some real world trying out, and post the results. Using
   GIMP or IMAGEMAGICK it could be even easier to automate the
   process.

Good light!
   fra

Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Peter Smekal]

Really nice shots, Derby. I like the portrait. BTW did you ever consider
buying the *istD instead?
Peter, Sweden

>Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.
>
>http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm
>
>D

Re: Adaptall 2 for Pentax, which one ?

[Frantisek]

Hi,

personally, I found the KA version less reliable, because often the
contacts were just a tiny bit off and didn't make proper contact. It
sure freaked me out when suddently I couldn't take a photo. I threw it
out afterwards. Having to rotate the lens a bit on/off to be able to
get a photograph is not my idea of good design...

The plain old K is the best, both mechanically and without exposure
quirks because of bad contacts.

However, when opting for the plain K, you obviously lose some
functionality especially on IstD/IstDS...

And do get either a return policy or get it very cheaply. I have had
few cases of lenses and adaptalls being badly compatible...'twas the Nikon
adaptalls, but I believe some compatibility quirks might be with other versions 
as
well.

Otherwise, there were some excellent lenses in Adaptall mount.

Frantisek

Re: PESO - Making Espresso (was: Re: OT-Coffee Theory)

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lovely shot!  Of course, you took the Greatest Coffee Photo of
all
> time:  the one you submitted to PUG a couple of years ago with
the
> bubbles on the top of the coffee shaped like set jewels. 


LOL!
 
> I like this one, though.  

Thanks for the kind words, Frank!

Gianfranco

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Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Paul Stenquist]

Interesting read. Some nice shots too.
Paul
On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm
D

Re: PESO - Making Espresso (was: Re: OT-Coffee Theory)

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very nice, Gianfranco. Good example of how interesting
pictures can be
> made out of mundane everyday objects and situations.

Muchas gracias, Juan!
In fact, I used it in an exhibition called something like "Daily
Archaeologies", representing weird couples of objects of daily
life.

Ciao,

Gianfranco 

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Re: PESO - Making Espresso (was: Re: OT-Coffee Theory)

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lovely!

Thanks!

Gianfranco

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Re: PESO - Making Espresso (was: Re: OT-Coffee Theory)

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks a lot better in B&W ... this RGB version looses the
beauty of Scala.
> 

I guess you are right, Shel. I simply forgot to convert it to
greyscale or desaturate it...

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[Ryan Lee]

How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 1.4? 

Cheers,
Ryan

RE: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Anthony Farr]

That was a brave link to post, Cotty.  Thanks for providing a good laugh.

But (on a sci-fi fancydress theme) this guy is braver:

http://www.gougoule.com/tron/


regards,
Anthony Farr 

> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On 21/1/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >No, but if he did, we would surely make fun of it!!
> 
> 
> http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare5.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 

Re: PESO: Mom at 90

[Ryan Lee]

Hi Bruce, thanks for the tip, I'm going to look for it to try it out. Know
whether it would work 'converting' an already black and white image?

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ryan Lee" 
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Mom at 90


> Hello Ryan,
>
> I know that in PictureWindow Pro, when you convert to B&W, you are
> allowed to pick a color to use for the conversion - acts like a filter
> used on the shot.  Sort of what you are talking about.
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Saturday, January 22, 2005, 12:17:21 AM, you wrote:
>
> RL> Hi Jens,
>
> RL> I noticed the same thing actually, especially with skin tones. At
first I
> RL> thought it was black and white points which needed adjusting, but I
couldn't
> RL> seem to duplicate film quality black and white with the ist D.
>
> RL> Here were some ist D samples (shot in colour, then greyscaled, then
black
> RL> and white points adjusted slightly):
> RL> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2755874
> RL> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2755852
>
>
> RL> However, the 20D produced some interesting results with the in-camera
black
> RL> and white (with contrast filters, e.g. red, green etc.)
> RL> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907358&size=lg
> RL> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907401&size=lg
>
> RL> Now a potentially silly question- is there a way to apply a red or
green
> RL> contrast filter to a black and white image in Photoshop, Paintshop, or
> RL> ACDSee, and how would I go about it?
>
> RL> Cheers,
> RL> Ryan
>
>
> RL> - Original Message - 
> RL> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> RL> To: 
> RL> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:09 PM
> RL> Subject: RE: PESO: Mom at 90
>
>
> >> Beeautiful photograph.
> >> It's funny how many digital B&W photographs have this "metal greyish -"
or
> >> "silver greyish" apperance!
> >> Jens
> >>
> >> Jens Bladt
> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: AW: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Keith Whaley]

Which "Netscape Mail client" were you thinking about, Mike?
My Netscape 7.2 thinks it's an email address.
keith whaley
Michael Heim wrote:
Outlook 2002 doesn't.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Januar 2005 01:28
An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Betreff: Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

So does Outlook Express...
Regards,
Bob...

From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John Francis wrote:

1/[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Netscape mail client thinks this is an email address.  Wonder if it's
where the DSLR fairy lives?

Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[John Whittingham]

At least £65 GBP over here, probably closer to £100. I managed to get a FA 
50mm f1.4 on the front of a ZX-5n for the price I would have paid for either 
seperately in the UK, got lucky I guess.

John



-- Original Message ---
From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:03:51 -
Subject: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

> How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 
> 1.4?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ryan
--- End of Original Message ---

Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[Paul Stenquist]

I think they've been going for around $175 on ebay. The FA has been 
going for around $200. Is the FA considered superior? I want to 
purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally 
perceived as the best.
Paul
On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:

How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 1.4?
Cheers,
Ryan

Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Fred]

> Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.

> http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm

What lenses did you use, Derby?  (Presumably you didn't use the 43 for all
of them, or did you?)  Thanks.

I did take notice of your MEF acquisition.  So, you've gotten some new AF
technology at about the same that time that you also came up with some
about-as-primitive-as-you-can-get AF technology - .  (I have a couple of
seldom-used mint MEF's here (one chrome and one black), along with their
weird AF 35-70/2.8 lenses, that are fun to play with once in a long while.)
I suspect you'll use your new *ist DS a lot more than you'll use that "new"
MEF - .

Fred

Re: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

[Shel Belinkoff]

Yes, it is, well, mostly.  It's been cropped a bit to straighten out the
scene and to eliminate some extraneous visual elements.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: mike wilson

> > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/hanging.html
>
> Is this the full version of the segment of negative you showed us before 
> Christmas?

Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Tim Sherburne]

Nice selection of pictures, Derby. Thanks for sharing!

Tim

On 1/22/05 5:38, Derby Chang wrote:

> 
> Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.
> 
> http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm
> 
> D
> 
> 
> 

Re: Interesting find

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David Mann"
Subject: Interesting find


It appears to be a circular polarizer as it doesn't affect the 
metered prism finder.  The design is quite clever: the front does 
not rotate which is a very good feature if you have a lens hood 
attached.
It is a linear polarizer, not a circular.
I think I paid about 10 bucks for one a few years ago.
William Robb 

Re: Semi-newbie question: MX or something else?

[Cerulean]

My lenses are the original Asahi smc 50mm; a Soligor
mc zoom+macro 80-200mm no.381866860; and a Albinar-adg
2x teleconverter.  So, I guess I only have two lenses.
 Plus I've got 4 filters, I think they're mostly UV.


--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:27:20 -0500, Peter J. Alling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The MX is a fine camera very robust and well
> built, with every feature
> > needed for serious
> > photography.  On the other hand the one you have
> may be beyond
> > economical repair.  
> 
> I agree with everything said so far.  One thing that
> may help sway you
> in favour of keeping the MX or, indeed, sticking
> with Pentax at all,
> would be which lenses you have.
> 
> If they're Pentax lenses, then it's very likely you
> have some pretty
> good lenses there, and it may be worth investing in
> a platform to use
> them with.  If they're low-quality third-party
> lenses, you may decide
> that it's just as well to look elsewhere, if it
> turns out that repair
> costs are prohibitive.
> 
> As others have said, if repairs are under about
> $150, it's likely
> worth getting done.  Just make sure you use a
> reputable shop, with a
> good warranty (90 days on repairs is, I would say,
> the industry
> standard).  If repairs are more than that, and you
> decide that the
> quality of your lenses makes it worth sticking with
> Pentax, you might
> look for another MX and keep the one you have now as
> a parts camera. 
> As someone already mentioned, parts are getting
> scarce for this 20
> year old camera, and your current one has, say, a
> functioning meter,
> it may come in handy in the future.
> 
> The MX is a lovely camera, one that many here on
> this list still use
> and enjoy on a regular basis - this author included.
> 
> HTH,
> frank
> -- 
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri
> Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 

MZ-S: what is a good price ?

[Thibouille]

What is, for you all, a "normal" price for an MZ-S.
I know it is good state (at least) but do not know much more for now
until I get more information.

Is there anything special I should ensure  ?

Thanks

Thibouille

Any Gmail invitation needed?

[Thibouille]

I have a couple ones so if anybody needs one, just ask kindly :)


Thibouille

PESO: 2003

[Juan Buhler]

Taking pictures of people's backs is one of the biggest problems of
shy street photographers. Sometimes I fall into that, it seems like
it's a way to lie to myself and say that I've taken the picture. This
pictures rarely work.

Now, looking at some pictures from a couple of years ago, I found this:

http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0175.html

(M6, Summicron 50mm, Tri-X)

I think this one does work somehow.

Opinions welcome.

j


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: PESO: The past times two

[Juan Buhler]

Hi Paul,

Sorry for the late comment.

I really liked this picture, for all the reasons other people already
stated. But also, because of how it shows how similar people are to
each other, regardless of place and time. With small variations in
skin tone, maybe in the kind of bread on the table, etc, I can imagine
very similar scenes anywhere in the world. From culture to culture we
are, contrary to what first impressions (and sometimes our
politicians) would lead us to believe, more similar than we are
different.

Thanks for posting it.

j


On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:35:47 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I shot this in Sweden 25 years ago with a Fuji 801 and a Vivitar 20/3.5 lens. 
> (Wish I had a better wide angle at that time.) The two men in the photo are 
> my uncle Olle and my great uncle Einar. This was the first time I met them. 
> The location is the kitchen of the farmhouse where my father was born in 
> 1906. Olle and Einar were talking when I walked in. They didn't see me, so I 
> was able to get a candid photo. It was on tri-x. Scanned from the negative 
> quite recently. It's here:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1789579&size=lg
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: carrying cameras in London

[mike wilson]

Hi,
Amita Guha wrote:
Now that I'm in the planning stages of this...will I make a tasty target for
muggers if I carry around my Lowepro Offroad (fits 1 body/2 lenses plus
external pouches)? I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such
over there. Nate's carrying his Adorama Slinger.
London is full of bandits 8-)  But very few of them carry guns.  And you 
are likely to meet few of those.  It's all about probabilities - Ryan 
was unlucky in Paris at New Year.  Many people weren't.  Many English 
people are worried about visiting New York.  You live there.  Just take 
the precautions you would take anywhere.

By the way, we haven't booked anything yet, but we are planning to be in the
UK for something like May 18 - 25. We'd love to meet anyone who is
available, and we're up for day trips or a night or two outside London.
It's a long way to come for one night but feel free to visit if you want.
m

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From:
Subject: Re: OT: Dog Stuff


Congratulations to you both (and good luck with the other legs).
Thanks John.
I expect I'll need it.
Beginners luck and all.
Mind you, I'm a little worried about someone who has dogs named
"Rollei" & "Leica".
Why? Just curious.
> We've seen Rollei recently; large, black,
and impressively menacing in appearance.  I assume Leica is
smaller, quieter, and more agile, and generally more likely to
be prepared to do what you ask?

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/TheFellas.html
Leica is the one on the left.
She is about an inch smaller than Rollei, and about 10 pounds 
lighter.
Much more eager to please, but a very serious dog.
Were she a person, I suspect she would be quite the little nerd.

Here is a more recent picture that shows the size difference a bit 
better.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/fellas2.html

Thanks for the good wishes.
William Robb

OT: Dog Stuff

[William Robb]

My dog club is holding an obedience trial this weekend.
After 8 years of doing this stuff with Leica, I finally decided (was 
berated into by other club members) to try to do something about 
titling her.
At the risk of jinxing the rest of the weekend, on our first outing, 
we scored 193 out of a possible 200 points, and earned her first leg 
on a CD title.

William Robb 

Re: AW: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[mike wilson]

Hi,
Keith Whaley wrote:
Which "Netscape Mail client" were you thinking about, Mike?
My Netscape 7.2 thinks it's an email address.
That's what I'm using.  I think it's the @ in the middle of it, with no 
spaces.  Most browser type interfaces will highlight it as a link.

mike

Re: carrying cameras in London

[Ryan Brooks]

Amita Guha wrote:
Now that I'm in the planning stages of this...will I make a tasty target for
muggers if I carry around my Lowepro Offroad (fits 1 body/2 lenses plus
external pouches)? I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such
over there. Nate's carrying his Adorama Slinger.
 

I carried a 1DsmII in plain site on my last visit everywhere.  No 
problems.  Just be smart about it.

-Ryan

Re: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

[mike wilson]

Magnificent work.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Yes, it is, well, mostly.  It's been cropped a bit to straighten out the
scene and to eliminate some extraneous visual elements.
Shel 


[Original Message]
From: mike wilson

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/hanging.html
Is this the full version of the segment of negative you showed us before 
Christmas?

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[johnf]

William Robb mused:
> 
> My dog club is holding an obedience trial this weekend.
> After 8 years of doing this stuff with Leica, I finally decided (was 
> berated into by other club members) to try to do something about 
> titling her.
> At the risk of jinxing the rest of the weekend, on our first outing, 
> we scored 193 out of a possible 200 points, and earned her first leg 
> on a CD title.

Congratulations to you both (and good luck with the other legs).

Mind you, I'm a little worried about someone who has dogs named
"Rollei" & "Leica".   We've seen Rollei recently; large, black,
and impressively menacing in appearance.  I assume Leica is
smaller, quieter, and more agile, and generally more likely to
be prepared to do what you ask?

carrying cameras in London

[Amita Guha]

Now that I'm in the planning stages of this...will I make a tasty target for
muggers if I carry around my Lowepro Offroad (fits 1 body/2 lenses plus
external pouches)? I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such
over there. Nate's carrying his Adorama Slinger.

By the way, we haven't booked anything yet, but we are planning to be in the
UK for something like May 18 - 25. We'd love to meet anyone who is
available, and we're up for day trips or a night or two outside London.

Thanks,
Amita

Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[John Whittingham]

> Is the FA considered superior? I want to 
> purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally 
> perceived as the best.

>From various MTF test results I've seen the 'F' looks to be superior to 
the 'FA' but these tests are rarely the only consideration. I upgraded from 
the F 50mm f1.7 to the FA 50mm f1.4 mainly due to the faster aperture.


John 

-- Original Message ---
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:10:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

> I think they've been going for around $175 on ebay. The FA has been 
> going for around $200. Is the FA considered superior? I want to 
> purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally 
> perceived as the best.
> Paul
> On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:
> 
> > How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 1.4?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan
> >
--- End of Original Message ---

Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Larry Levy]

Derby Chang posted
Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm
On your website you bemoan the lack of a gripstrap available for the DS like 
the one for the PZ-1. You're half right.

Pentax doesn't have a comparable Hand Grip FDP for the DS and it doesn't 
have a Battery Grip like the D-BG1 for the istD (and no port for the power). 
Still, all is not lost. After adding the Hand Grip FDP to my Z-1, I became 
quite used to using it as it made the camera more comfortable and the strap 
provided "insurance." When I got my istD, I added the D-BG1. This made the D 
more like what I was used to, but gave me no "insurance."

Someone posted that he added an Op-Tech hand grip to his D, and that this 
compounded the difficulty in accessing the CF card. I liked the idea, and 
went looking. I wound up with a Hakuba Grip-PH which I screwed into the 
tripod mount of the D-BG-1 and attached to the D strap lug (attaching the 
strap to the Grip-PH). The Grip-PH is made of material similar to the FDP's 
material and has the added advantage of wrapping around my wrist. (Note: If 
I remember to position the strap correctly, it doesn't provide any 
additional interference with CF access.) Hakuba also makes one that doesn't 
include a wrist strap.

So, while I can't recommend anything to replace the hand grip aspect of the 
FDP on your PZ-1 for your DS, I can recommend the Hakuba to replace the 
strap aspect.

Larry in Dallas 

Re: carrying cameras in London

[Juan Buhler]

A month ago I was in London, with my istD, Leica M6 and a Domke bag.
No problems at all--actually I never even thought about safety.

Just use common sense, don't leave your camera bag open when walking
around, and you'll be ok.

j


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:13:03 -0500, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now that I'm in the planning stages of this...will I make a tasty target for
> muggers if I carry around my Lowepro Offroad (fits 1 body/2 lenses plus
> external pouches)? I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such
> over there. Nate's carrying his Adorama Slinger.
> 
> By the way, we haven't booked anything yet, but we are planning to be in the
> UK for something like May 18 - 25. We'd love to meet anyone who is
> available, and we're up for day trips or a night or two outside London.
> 
> Thanks,
> Amita
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: PESO: 2003

[Graywolf]

The fact that she seems to be looking over his shoulder makes the photo. If she 
had been looking any place else it would not be very interesting. I do like this 
one, Juan.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
Juan Buhler wrote:
Taking pictures of people's backs is one of the biggest problems of
shy street photographers. Sometimes I fall into that, it seems like
it's a way to lie to myself and say that I've taken the picture. This
pictures rarely work.
Now, looking at some pictures from a couple of years ago, I found this:
http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0175.html
(M6, Summicron 50mm, Tri-X)
I think this one does work somehow.
Opinions welcome.
j


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Re: PESO: 2003

[Keith Whaley]

H.
Good shots there...
30059 does elicit a number of questions and comments!
What was the older gent staring at? "H. Yes. Ahem."
Something the man in the foreground was 
holding/leading/carrying/Pushing? Now, if you want a look of deadly 
serious intent, this is your man!
Looks like a street scene full of tourists.
Well done, Juan!

keith whaley
Juan Buhler wrote:
Taking pictures of people's backs is one of the biggest problems of
shy street photographers. Sometimes I fall into that, it seems like
it's a way to lie to myself and say that I've taken the picture. This
pictures rarely work.
Now, looking at some pictures from a couple of years ago, I found this:
http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0175.html
(M6, Summicron 50mm, Tri-X)
I think this one does work somehow.
Opinions welcome.
j

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[Joseph Tainter]

Well, congratulations and best wishes to Leica and Wheatfield.
I am trying to figure out what could be done with that combination of 
names. Leica and Wheatfield LLC? Leica and Wheatfield, attorneys-at-law?
Leica and Wheatfield, purveyors of fine photographs? Leica and 
Wheatfield, by Appointment to Her Majesty the Queen?

Maybe something will come to me.
Joe

Re: Adaptall 2 for Pentax, which one ?

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

My 300/5.6 Tamron with the A Adaptall-2 mount works just fine on my Super 
Program.

Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks

Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[Ryan Lee]

Actually that's interesting you should say that Paul- I'd say I've been
keeping a reasonably close eye on eBay for the past year or two, and not
once have I ever seen the SMC F 50 1.4 ever come up. The 1.7 is a lot more
common it seems.

Not that it's conclusive, but photodo scores the FA at 4.2 while the F at
4.6 too.

I was considering putting the lens on eBay for plenty more just to try my
luck as the finances are wearing a bit thin. I'm guessing there's a good
chance a collector out there really wants it.

Not sure if I'll go through with it though, it's brilliant hardware..

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but


> I think they've been going for around $175 on ebay. The FA has been
> going for around $200. Is the FA considered superior? I want to
> purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally
> perceived as the best.
> Paul
> On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:
>
> > How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 1.4?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan
> >
>
>

Strange bedfellows

[Cotty]

On a mission in the local town and as I strode past my local camera
store, what caught my eye? Three DSLRs in the window - a 1D mark 2
flanked by a Dynax (Maxxum D7) and an *ist DS !

I've never seen a new Pentax in this window ever, let alone a DSLR (T4
Cameras, Witney, UK). The Pentax was £799 - the Minolta £1100, the Canon
didn't have a price tag on it ;-)

Seeing the 1D next to the Pentax did set  my thought processes churning -
I was impressed.

Fighting enablement.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: Strange bedfellows

[mike wilson]

Cotty wrote:
On a mission in the local town and as I strode past my local camera
store, what caught my eye? Three DSLRs in the window - a 1D mark 2
flanked by a Dynax (Maxxum D7) and an *ist DS !
I've never seen a new Pentax in this window ever, let alone a DSLR (T4
Cameras, Witney, UK). The Pentax was £799 - the Minolta £1100, the Canon
didn't have a price tag on it ;-)
Seeing the 1D next to the Pentax did set  my thought processes churning -
I was impressed.
Fighting enablement.
That's maximum retail price for the Pentax - you should be able to get 
it, with lens, for at least £50 less.

What a swine I am
m

Re: Strange bedfellows

[Herb Chong]

it seems that the imaging division of Pentax is going to make a profit for a 
change this quarter, mostly because of DSLR sales. i believe that the *istDs 
is mostly responsible, but it is hard to tell from the reports i have seen. 
just to even things out, the endoscope business looks like it is in trouble.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Strange bedfellows


Seeing the 1D next to the Pentax did set  my thought processes churning -
I was impressed.

Re: carrying cameras in London

[Bob W]

Hi,

Saturday, January 22, 2005, 5:13:03 PM, Amita wrote:

> Now that I'm in the planning stages of this...will I make a tasty target for
> muggers if I carry around my Lowepro Offroad (fits 1 body/2 lenses plus
> external pouches)? I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such
> over there. Nate's carrying his Adorama Slinger.

Where have you heard about these muggings? Most gun crime here is
drug-related. I don't suppose you'll be getting involved in any of
that.

I've lived in London since 1981 and never heard or seen a gun, except
at a shooting range and on the belts of the police who guard diplomats,
politicos and royalty. On the other hand I have heard several IRA bombs
explode.

I've been carrying cameras all that time and never been mugged or had
any problems (except burglary).

These things do happen, of course, but on the whole you should be
perfectly safe.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 1/22/2005 9:58:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/TheFellas.html
Leica is the one on the left.

She is about an inch smaller than Rollei, and about 10 pounds 
lighter.
Much more eager to please, but a very serious dog.
Were she a person, I suspect she would be quite the little nerd.

Here is a more recent picture that shows the size difference a bit 
better.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/fellas2.html

Thanks for the good wishes.

William Robb
=
Congrats and Good luck!

You know, when I read the first post, my head did not immediately translate 
Leica into "dog". I had to read it three times to get it. (CD = Companion Dog; 
in the computer/photogaphy world, naturally, it means something else -- 
doubling the confusion.)

Hehehehe.

Which I only know from having read some mystery books that include dog 
training. Have fun.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

RE: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[Jens Bladt]

I've seen at least or 4 or 5 during the last six months. The last one
(California) ended two days ago and went for 188 USD:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48558&item=3867324192
&rd=1

Some of them was located in Germany, and said Germany Only, but usually the
German agree to ship across boarders if yoy ask kindly, preferably in
German.

Accordning to Photodo it's one of the best 50mm lenses on the plantet Earth!
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. januar 2005 07:25
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but


Actually that's interesting you should say that Paul- I'd say I've been
keeping a reasonably close eye on eBay for the past year or two, and not
once have I ever seen the SMC F 50 1.4 ever come up. The 1.7 is a lot more
common it seems.

Not that it's conclusive, but photodo scores the FA at 4.2 while the F at
4.6 too.

I was considering putting the lens on eBay for plenty more just to try my
luck as the finances are wearing a bit thin. I'm guessing there's a good
chance a collector out there really wants it.

Not sure if I'll go through with it though, it's brilliant hardware..

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but


> I think they've been going for around $175 on ebay. The FA has been
> going for around $200. Is the FA considered superior? I want to
> purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally
> perceived as the best.
> Paul
> On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:
>
> > How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 1.4?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan
> >
>
>

Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Thibouille wrote:

> What is, for you all, a "normal" price for an MZ-S.

Shop price in the UK for a Mint/Mint- one is around 400GBP. Ebay price
is more or less the same in my experience.

HTH,
Kostas

Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[Joe Wilensky]

An F 50/1.4 just finished on auction on eBay about a week ago -- $182, 
I think. I'll post a link in a minute if I find it. It was the first I 
saw on eBay in months and months and months, perhaps a year. One that I 
saw previously had been included in an SFXish package, and the price 
seemed to reflect the fact that bidders knew the 1.4 was more 
desireable than the 1.7.

I bought an F 50/1.4 at KEH in EX condition for $144 this past fall -- 
also, one of the first I had seen there in many months.

It is extremely rare that they show up just about anywhere.
I don't know why the scores should be different at all, though, between 
the F and FA versions. The optical formula seems to be exactly the 
same. Did they add the ghostless SMC coatings to the FA? If they did, 
you'd think the FA would stand a chance to score slightly higher.

Joe
On Jan 23, 2005, at 1:25 AM, Ryan Lee wrote:
Actually that's interesting you should say that Paul- I'd say I've been
keeping a reasonably close eye on eBay for the past year or two, and 
not
once have I ever seen the SMC F 50 1.4 ever come up. The 1.7 is a lot 
more
common it seems.

Not that it's conclusive, but photodo scores the FA at 4.2 while the F 
at
4.6 too.

I was considering putting the lens on eBay for plenty more just to try 
my
luck as the finances are wearing a bit thin. I'm guessing there's a 
good
chance a collector out there really wants it.

Not sure if I'll go through with it though, it's brilliant hardware..
Cheers,
Ryan
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

I think they've been going for around $175 on ebay. The FA has been
going for around $200. Is the FA considered superior? I want to
purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally
perceived as the best.
Paul
On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:
How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 
1.4?

Cheers,
Ryan

Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

[Leon Altoff]

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:04 +0100, Thibouille wrote:

>What is, for you all, a "normal" price for an MZ-S.
>I know it is good state (at least) but do not know much more for now
>until I get more information.
>
>Is there anything special I should ensure  ?

Back in September I sold one on eBay for US$590.  The seller ended up
taking the vertical grip as well for a total of US$700.  The camera had
only had 42 rolls through it.  I still have one MZ-S and I'm going to
keep that until film is no longer available.

Are you buying or selling?


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon

RE: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

[Jens Bladt]

Well, European prices, especially Danish (taxes and all) is something
special. I sold mine (incl. BG-10 grip) for 700 USD, which was considerably
less than I paid 6 months earlier (1000 USD). If you can get one for 500-600
USD I would consider it a good price - in like new condition.
Eye piece and all caps (flash shoe, remote connection etc.) should be
present.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. januar 2005 19:18
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: MZ-S: what is a good price ?


What is, for you all, a "normal" price for an MZ-S.
I know it is good state (at least) but do not know much more for now
until I get more information.

Is there anything special I should ensure  ?

Thanks

Thibouille

Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[Joe Wilensky]

It went for $188.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItem&category=48558&item=3867324192&rd=1

Joe
On Jan 23, 2005, at 1:25 AM, Ryan Lee wrote:
Actually that's interesting you should say that Paul- I'd say I've been
keeping a reasonably close eye on eBay for the past year or two, and  
not
once have I ever seen the SMC F 50 1.4 ever come up. The 1.7 is a lot  
more
common it seems.

Not that it's conclusive, but photodo scores the FA at 4.2 while the F  
at
4.6 too.

I was considering putting the lens on eBay for plenty more just to try  
my
luck as the finances are wearing a bit thin. I'm guessing there's a  
good
chance a collector out there really wants it.

Not sure if I'll go through with it though, it's brilliant hardware..
Cheers,
Ryan
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

I think they've been going for around $175 on ebay. The FA has been
going for around $200. Is the FA considered superior? I want to
purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally
perceived as the best.
Paul
On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:
How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50  
1.4?

Cheers,
Ryan

Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Cotty]

On 23/1/05, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.
>
>http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm

Nice pics and report Derby.




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Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Very nice pictures! 

I use the Hakuba Grip-LH ($19 at B&H) with my DS. Put it on as
soon as I bought the camera and have not yet taken it off. I
filed off its little registration stop and angle it a little
forward on the base, that gives me a perfect hand strap. The
grip's base blocks the battery compartment, but that only takes
a moment or two to overcome (just loosen the base and swing it
out of the way to change the batteries). 

I have no need for a vertical grip and prefer the camera to be
small and light anyway. 

It's a wonderful camera. I'm shooting a lot with some A and M
lenses, plus the DA14, FA135, and the 31 Limited should be here
this week. 

Godfrey

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Re: carrying cameras in London

[Cotty]

On 22/1/05, Amita Guha, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such
>over there

Extremely rare at gunpoint. Possibly with knives. Tourists are targets
wherever you go. Behave sensibly and don't advertise. Stay near crowds.
You'll be fine.




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Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Cotty]

On 23/1/05, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That was a brave link to post, Cotty.  Thanks for providing a good laugh.
>
>But (on a sci-fi fancydress theme) this guy is braver:
>
>http://www.gougoule.com/tron/

yo Tony - ROTFLMAO

That is hysterical!!




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Expensive Tamron SP 200-500mm

[Jens Bladt]

Some ebayer paid 676 USD for this lens:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4688&item=3867347228&;
rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

KEH sells this in excellent condition (without the Adaptall mount) for 429
USD!
http://www.keh.com/shop/product.cfm?bid=TL&cid=07&sid=newused&crid=9780588

Jens


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: PESO: 2003

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:41:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, looking at some pictures from a couple of years ago, I found this:

http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0175.html

(M6, Summicron 50mm, Tri-X)

I think this one does work somehow.

Opinions welcome.

j
===
Yes, it works. Like it. 

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: Strange bedfellows

[Cotty]

On 22/1/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:

>just to even things out, the endoscope business looks like it is in trouble.

In the shit ?




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Re: Expensive Tamron SP 200-500mm

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 1/22/2005 1:37:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
KEH sells this in excellent condition (without the Adaptall mount) for 429
USD!
http://www.keh.com/shop/product.cfm?bid=TL&cid=07&sid=newused&crid=9780588

Jens
===
Yeah, but it's pretty obvious, if you watch ebay, that lots do not know KEH 
is there. (I didn't went I was first doing photography.)

Also obvious is the fact that people got caught up in the heat of the moment 
when bidding. Danger, danger... 

Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: *istDS - first thoughts

[Derby Chang]

Peter wrote:
Really nice shots, Derby. I like the portrait. BTW did you ever consider
buying the *istD instead?
Peter, Sweden
Thanks Peter,
Yep I did consider it. But after looking around for a bit, it seems the 
D is discontinued, in Australia at least.  In fact the shop where I 
bought the DS said they couldn't sell the D because people didn't 
understand it was a better camera that the DS. They even went as far as 
saying, if there was one left in the warehouse, I could have it for the 
same price as a DS. Alas, they were sold out.

It doesn't bother me too much. I probably only miss hyperprogram in the 
*istD.
D

Re: Ilford update

[Mark Roberts]

"John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Good news:
>
>Firstcall have in stock Pan-F, Delta 100, 400, 3200 and according to them it 
>is still being produced at the present time despite Ilford being in 
>receivership. Hope this is of some help.

Thanks for the update! Good news indeed.

-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: carrying cameras in London

[Amita Guha]

> Where have you heard about these muggings? Most gun crime 
> here is drug-related. I don't suppose you'll be getting 
> involved in any of that.

I guess mostly on the Fodors and Frommers travel boards. I've been reading
the usual horror stories about pickpockets and purse snatchers. When I was
living in London I usually felt safer than I do here at home, but I haven't
been there since 1993, so I didn't know. But it sounds like it's fine over
there, and in NY I'm extremely protective of my stuff, so I guess I was
concerned  about nothing. Many thanks to everyone for the input!

Amita

Re: carrying cameras in London

[Mishka]

i've heard the same about some outer parts of nyc (such as, e.g., queens)
:)

best,
mishka

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:13:03 -0500, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such over there.

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[Peter J. Alling]

I just want to congratulate Leica on her superb job of getting you trained.
William Robb wrote:
My dog club is holding an obedience trial this weekend.
After 8 years of doing this stuff with Leica, I finally decided (was 
berated into by other club members) to try to do something about 
titling her.
At the risk of jinxing the rest of the weekend, on our first outing, 
we scored 193 out of a possible 200 points, and earned her first leg 
on a CD title.

William Robb


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

OT: Happy to be home

[Bob Sullivan]

Hi, 

Lynn & I started today in Washington, DC visiting my daughter at GWU
and seeing some of the Inauguration on Thursday.  They were
threatening 4-7 inches of snow today in DC, so we were happy to be on
the 9:30 AM flight to Chicago.

After a $50 Taxi ride to Dulles International at 7 AM, United Airlines
told us the flight was canceled and the next was 9:45 PM into Chicago.
 I inquired about Regan National Airport, and they got us on a 10:30
AM flight, so another $50 Taxi ride BACK INTO the city (same salt
trucks parked along the interstate waiting for the snow to start) and
then a wrestling match with the self-service ticketing machines and a
call on the HELP hand set installed next to the machine and it finally
gave up two boarding passes.

I think we were more successful than most, as it proved to be the last
flight into Chicago and we got two aisle seats.  Departure was delayed
until 11:20 AM as the equipment was late.  Seems the original pilot
got stuck in a ditch on the way to the airport.  They offered free
tickets to 4 travelers who were willing to delay departure until
tomorrow to accomodate some international travelers connecting thru
Chicago.

We insturment landed at O'hare to 1/4 mile visibility and plenty of
snow.  It's snowing to beat the band now and I've got 6 inches on the
driveway despite evidence that the neighbor ran the snowblower over it
sometime in the past 24 hours.  This is a pretty good storm as it
stretches some 1,000 miles from Chicago to Washington, DC.

Regards,  Bob S.

Re: PESO: The past times two

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Juan. How true. And it's interesting that the kitchen is frequently the 
center of life for every culture. It's where the family comes together and 
takes their nourishment, so I guess it's natural that we gravitate toward the 
source of our food. Of course at one time it was the only room in the house 
that was warm on winter days.
Paul


> Hi Paul,
> 
> Sorry for the late comment.
> 
> I really liked this picture, for all the reasons other people already
> stated. But also, because of how it shows how similar people are to
> each other, regardless of place and time. With small variations in
> skin tone, maybe in the kind of bread on the table, etc, I can imagine
> very similar scenes anywhere in the world. From culture to culture we
> are, contrary to what first impressions (and sometimes our
> politicians) would lead us to believe, more similar than we are
> different.
> 
> Thanks for posting it.
> 
> j
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:35:47 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I shot this in Sweden 25 years ago with a Fuji 801 and a Vivitar 20/3.5 
> > lens. 
> (Wish I had a better wide angle at that time.) The two men in the photo are 
> my 
> uncle Olle and my great uncle Einar. This was the first time I met them. The 
> location is the kitchen of the farmhouse where my father was born in 1906. 
> Olle 
> and Einar were talking when I walked in. They didn't see me, so I was able to 
> get a candid photo. It was on tri-x. Scanned from the negative quite 
> recently. 
> It's here:
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1789579&size=lg
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
> 

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter"
Subject: Re: OT: Dog Stuff


Well, congratulations and best wishes to Leica and Wheatfield.
I am trying to figure out what could be done with that combination 
of names. Leica and Wheatfield LLC? Leica and Wheatfield, 
attorneys-at-law?
Leica and Wheatfield, purveyors of fine photographs? Leica and 
Wheatfield, by Appointment to Her Majesty the Queen?
We used to be Robb, Robb, Undertable, Springer and Finch, back when 
we had different dogs and some birds.
Thanks for the congratulations.

We just got home from the afternoon trial where Leica and I managed a 
194 out of a possible 200.

William Robb 

RE: Expensive Tamron SP 200-500mm

[Jens Bladt]

Marnie aka Doe wrote:
>Also obvious is the fact that people got caught up in the heat of the
moment
>when bidding. Danger, danger...

I know the feeling:-)


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. januar 2005 22:41
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Expensive Tamron SP 200-500mm


In a message dated 1/22/2005 1:37:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
KEH sells this in excellent condition (without the Adaptall mount) for 429
USD!
http://www.keh.com/shop/product.cfm?bid=TL&cid=07&sid=newused&crid=9780588

Jens
===
Yeah, but it's pretty obvious, if you watch ebay, that lots do not know KEH
is there. (I didn't went I was first doing photography.)

Also obvious is the fact that people got caught up in the heat of the moment
when bidding. Danger, danger...

Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but

[pnstenquist]

I'm pretty sure I saw an F 50/1.4 last week. I don't know what it went for, but 
it was at $160 or so when I saw it. I think it had just a few hours to go. B&H 
sells the FA 501.4 for $209 new when they have them in stock. At the moment, 
they dont't. I've seen some FAs go for more on ebay than B&H charges for a new 
one. These days, ebay is definitely a sellers market.
Paul


> Actually that's interesting you should say that Paul- I'd say I've been
> keeping a reasonably close eye on eBay for the past year or two, and not
> once have I ever seen the SMC F 50 1.4 ever come up. The 1.7 is a lot more
> common it seems.
> 
> Not that it's conclusive, but photodo scores the FA at 4.2 while the F at
> 4.6 too.
> 
> I was considering putting the lens on eBay for plenty more just to try my
> luck as the finances are wearing a bit thin. I'm guessing there's a good
> chance a collector out there really wants it.
> 
> Not sure if I'll go through with it though, it's brilliant hardware..
> 
> Cheers,
> Ryan
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Not that I'm definitely selling it, but
> 
> 
> > I think they've been going for around $175 on ebay. The FA has been
> > going for around $200. Is the FA considered superior? I want to
> > purchase one or the other, so I'm wondering which is generally
> > perceived as the best.
> > Paul
> > On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:
> >
> > > How much would one pay for a MINTY++ bleeding-eyes-sharp SMC F 50 1.4?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ryan
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

Re: Strange bedfellows

[Jens Bladt]

My dealer just got the DS on the shelf (I never even saw a real *ist D
before oredring one).
On the shelf, the *ist Ds don't even look like a DSLR, in kind of blends in
with all the P&S digies.
This might actually prove to be a bit of problem :-(

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. januar 2005 22:38
Til: pentax list
Emne: Re: Strange bedfellows


On 22/1/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:

>just to even things out, the endoscope business looks like it is in
trouble.

In the shit ?




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Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

[pnstenquist]

> Thibouille wroteA;> I'm considering a purchase. But these beast seem pretty 
> rare, even on Ebay..I sold my laptop so have a couple hundreds euros to spend 
> :) and in my
> opinion, digital is simply not mature enough.

Youre right where I was a year ago. Although you might say I was even more 
commited to film because I was shooting almost all 6x7 MF film and a bit of 
35mm film. Then a local pro showed me what he could do with 6.1 megapixel 
digital files shot in RAW and converted in PhotoShop CS. If you have a chance, 
you should look into the digital potential before you buy another 35mm film 
camera. I've been accused of crusading for digital. I'm not. I hope we all 
continue to shoot film. But i feel obligated to caution anyone who opts for an 
expensive 35mm film camera instead of digital. That's just my opinion. Others 
will disagree.
Paul

RE: carrying cameras in London

[Amita Guha]

> i've heard the same about some outer parts of nyc (such as, 
> e.g., queens)
> :)

Touché. Guess I took the message boards a little too much to heart. Now I
feel silly. :)

Thanks,
Amita

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[Ann Sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:

> My dog club is holding an obedience trial this weekend.
> After 8 years of doing this stuff with Leica, I finally decided (was
> berated into by other club members) to try to do something about
> titling her.
> At the risk of jinxing the rest of the weekend, on our first outing,
> we scored 193 out of a possible 200 points, and earned her first leg
> on a CD title.
>
> William Robb

Hope you took pictures of Leica with a Pentax -

Probably NOT a good idea to put her leg on a CD however --

and now, back to staring at snow out my window...

har har
ann

Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

[Thibouille]

I'm considering a purchase. But these beast seem pretty rare, even on Ebay...
I sold my laptop so have a couple hundreds euros to spend :) and in my
opinion, digital is simply not mature enough.

---
Thibouille


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:04:19 -0500, Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 7:18 PM +0100 1/22/05, Thibouille wrote:
> >What is, for you all, a "normal" price for an MZ-S.
> >I know it is good state (at least) but do not know much more for now
> >until I get more information.
> >
> >Is there anything special I should ensure  ?
> 
> I received my new MZ-S yesterday. $750 from Adorama. The battery grip
> from B&H was $145.
> --
> Steve
> â
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 


-- 


Thibouille

Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

[Steve Sharpe]

At 7:18 PM +0100 1/22/05, Thibouille wrote:
What is, for you all, a "normal" price for an MZ-S.
I know it is good state (at least) but do not know much more for now
until I get more information.
Is there anything special I should ensure  ?
I received my new MZ-S yesterday. $750 from Adorama. The battery grip 
from B&H was $145.
--
Steve
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Re: Strange bedfellows

[Herb Chong]

that would be when it wasn't in trouble.
Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Strange bedfellows


On 22/1/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:
just to even things out, the endoscope business looks like it is in 
trouble.
In the shit ?

RE: carrying cameras in London

[Lewis Matthew]

From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: carrying cameras in London
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:13:03 -0500
Now that I'm in the planning stages of this...will I make a tasty target 
for
muggers if I carry around my Lowepro Offroad (fits 1 body/2 lenses plus
external pouches)? I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such
over there. Nate's carrying his Adorama Slinger.

My wife and I go to London every other year, most recent was May 2004. 
Neither of us has ever been near what seemed to be a potential danger. Both 
of us carry cameras and a small accessory bag. I regard London as safer for 
"out of towners" than our American metros.

As an aside, I am an avid believer in the quote from Samuel Johnson (I think 
these are his words); "When you are tired of London, you are tired of life".

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Re: OT: Happy to be home

[pnstenquist]

Glad you made it home. The weather is definitely a problem for the midwest, 
north central, and northeast. Here in Michigan, we have about ten inches of new 
snow. It's very cold, so the snow is light and blowing around. I'm remodeling a 
bathroom and needed some parts, so I drove about five miles to Lowes Hardware 
in my Jeep. Lots of fun. But I wouldn't want to be out there in a 2WD car. It's 
winter.
Paul


> Hi, 
> 
> Lynn & I started today in Washington, DC visiting my daughter at GWU
> and seeing some of the Inauguration on Thursday.  They were
> threatening 4-7 inches of snow today in DC, so we were happy to be on
> the 9:30 AM flight to Chicago.
> 
> After a $50 Taxi ride to Dulles International at 7 AM, United Airlines
> told us the flight was canceled and the next was 9:45 PM into Chicago.
>  I inquired about Regan National Airport, and they got us on a 10:30
> AM flight, so another $50 Taxi ride BACK INTO the city (same salt
> trucks parked along the interstate waiting for the snow to start) and
> then a wrestling match with the self-service ticketing machines and a
> call on the HELP hand set installed next to the machine and it finally
> gave up two boarding passes.
> 
> I think we were more successful than most, as it proved to be the last
> flight into Chicago and we got two aisle seats.  Departure was delayed
> until 11:20 AM as the equipment was late.  Seems the original pilot
> got stuck in a ditch on the way to the airport.  They offered free
> tickets to 4 travelers who were willing to delay departure until
> tomorrow to accomodate some international travelers connecting thru
> Chicago.
> 
> We insturment landed at O'hare to 1/4 mile visibility and plenty of
> snow.  It's snowing to beat the band now and I've got 6 inches on the
> driveway despite evidence that the neighbor ran the snowblower over it
> sometime in the past 24 hours.  This is a pretty good storm as it
> stretches some 1,000 miles from Chicago to Washington, DC.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 

RE: carrying cameras in London

[pnstenquist]

I feel silly as well. That's generally my goal on Saturday evenings .
Paul


> > i've heard the same about some outer parts of nyc (such as, 
> > e.g., queens)
> > :)
> 
> Touché. Guess I took the message boards a little too much to heart. Now I
> feel silly. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Amita
> 
> 

Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 01:00:40PM +, mike wilson wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:30:00AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>>From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>>Well, if you *will* use web browsers as mail clients ...
> >>
> >>Agreed.  I have to set the one at work to accept html mail, as many of 
> >>the dipsticks who are supposed to be running the place think it's good to 
> >>send 15Kb messages to ask simple questions.  
> >
> >
> >I won't do that for my primary mail program.  Well, it *accepts*
> >html mail, but it displays it as text, complete with all the tags.
> >That means it's all but impossible to understand what is being said. 
> >As a result, those questions don't get answered.
> >
> >Occasionally I fire up an alternative mail program (usually when
> >there is an attachment I really want to extract, or somesuch).
> >I then go back and review any outstanding malformed messages.
> 
> Pretty much the same for me, at home.  At work, with the power mad (they 
> think that "being in charge of" means "have power over" rather than "be 
> responsible for") little masturbators in "management" positions, it is 
> easier to leave it in HTML mode and not have to explain for the 
> umpteenth time to their walnut-sized brains (which I suspect _are_ 
> located in their nether regions) that they are abusing a system.
> 
> mike
> feeling better now but I might do that again for fun.

I find that replying to them from a text-only email program, keeping the
entire mess of HTML, etc., as quoted text (using a ">" as a quote character
to further mess up their TAG parser) quite often does the trick.

Re: OT: Happy to be home

[Mark Roberts]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Glad you made it home. The weather is definitely a problem for the
>midwest, north central, and northeast. Here in Michigan, we have 
>about ten inches of new snow. 

We got about 5 inches here in Pittsburgh and you'd think the city had
been evacuated! Quite amusing to someone who used to live in Rochester
:) There's a big football game here tomorrow so I hope they get the
streets cleared by then.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: OT: Dog Stuff

[Amita Guha]

> and now, back to staring at snow out my window...

A friend who's more ambitious than I am just told me he's on his way out to
shoot the snow, now, at night. I think he's crazy! I might do it tomorrow
but there's no way I'm going out in this now. 

Amita

Re: carrying cameras in London

[Mark Roberts]

You don't really need to worry about getting robbed at gunpoint in
London, but in Oxford I believe you should be concerned that someone
might shoot you with their Canon :-P

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: Happy to be home

[Amita Guha]

Bob, glad to hear you made it home. That was a close call. Did you have to
dig your car out to get home from the airport?

Amita

> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:20 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: OT: Happy to be home
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Lynn & I started today in Washington, DC visiting my daughter 
> at GWU and seeing some of the Inauguration on Thursday.  They 
> were threatening 4-7 inches of snow today in DC, so we were 
> happy to be on the 9:30 AM flight to Chicago.
> 
> After a $50 Taxi ride to Dulles International at 7 AM, United 
> Airlines told us the flight was canceled and the next was 
> 9:45 PM into Chicago.  I inquired about Regan National 
> Airport, and they got us on a 10:30 AM flight, so another $50 
> Taxi ride BACK INTO the city (same salt trucks parked along 
> the interstate waiting for the snow to start) and then a 
> wrestling match with the self-service ticketing machines and 
> a call on the HELP hand set installed next to the machine and 
> it finally gave up two boarding passes.
> 
> I think we were more successful than most, as it proved to be 
> the last flight into Chicago and we got two aisle seats.  
> Departure was delayed until 11:20 AM as the equipment was 
> late.  Seems the original pilot got stuck in a ditch on the 
> way to the airport.  They offered free tickets to 4 travelers 
> who were willing to delay departure until tomorrow to 
> accomodate some international travelers connecting thru Chicago.
> 
> We insturment landed at O'hare to 1/4 mile visibility and 
> plenty of snow.  It's snowing to beat the band now and I've 
> got 6 inches on the driveway despite evidence that the 
> neighbor ran the snowblower over it sometime in the past 24 
> hours.  This is a pretty good storm as it stretches some 
> 1,000 miles from Chicago to Washington, DC.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[johnf]

Ann Sanfedele mused:
> 
> and now, back to staring at snow out my window...
> 
> har har
> ann

Here's what I see if I stare out of my window:

Re: Happy to be home

[Bob Sullivan]

No, left my car in the garage at work on Wens. and took a taxi back
from the airport today.  The car was cold, but dry - no snow.
Regards,  Bob S.


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:52:50 -0500, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob, glad to hear you made it home. That was a close call. Did you have to
> dig your car out to get home from the airport?
> 
> Amita
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:20 PM
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: OT: Happy to be home
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Lynn & I started today in Washington, DC visiting my daughter
> > at GWU and seeing some of the Inauguration on Thursday.  They
> > were threatening 4-7 inches of snow today in DC, so we were
> > happy to be on the 9:30 AM flight to Chicago.
> >
> > After a $50 Taxi ride to Dulles International at 7 AM, United
> > Airlines told us the flight was canceled and the next was
> > 9:45 PM into Chicago.  I inquired about Regan National
> > Airport, and they got us on a 10:30 AM flight, so another $50
> > Taxi ride BACK INTO the city (same salt trucks parked along
> > the interstate waiting for the snow to start) and then a
> > wrestling match with the self-service ticketing machines and
> > a call on the HELP hand set installed next to the machine and
> > it finally gave up two boarding passes.
> >
> > I think we were more successful than most, as it proved to be
> > the last flight into Chicago and we got two aisle seats.
> > Departure was delayed until 11:20 AM as the equipment was
> > late.  Seems the original pilot got stuck in a ditch on the
> > way to the airport.  They offered free tickets to 4 travelers
> > who were willing to delay departure until tomorrow to
> > accomodate some international travelers connecting thru Chicago.
> >
> > We insturment landed at O'hare to 1/4 mile visibility and
> > plenty of snow.  It's snowing to beat the band now and I've
> > got 6 inches on the driveway despite evidence that the
> > neighbor ran the snowblower over it sometime in the past 24
> > hours.  This is a pretty good storm as it stretches some
> > 1,000 miles from Chicago to Washington, DC.
> >
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> 
>

Re: OT: Dog Stuff

[Juan Buhler]

Nice Leica and Rollei.

Just make sure you don't put black tape on those.

:-)

j


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:57:31 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> Subject: Re: OT: Dog Stuff
> 
> > Congratulations to you both (and good luck with the other legs).
> 
> Thanks John.
> I expect I'll need it.
> Beginners luck and all.
> 
> >
> > Mind you, I'm a little worried about someone who has dogs named
> > "Rollei" & "Leica".
> 
> Why? Just curious.
> 
>  > We've seen Rollei recently; large, black,
> > and impressively menacing in appearance.  I assume Leica is
> > smaller, quieter, and more agile, and generally more likely to
> > be prepared to do what you ask?
> 
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/TheFellas.html
> Leica is the one on the left.
> 
> She is about an inch smaller than Rollei, and about 10 pounds
> lighter.
> Much more eager to please, but a very serious dog.
> Were she a person, I suspect she would be quite the little nerd.
> 
> Here is a more recent picture that shows the size difference a bit
> better.
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/fellas2.html
> 
> Thanks for the good wishes.
> 
> William Robb
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: Strange bedfellows

[Peter J. Alling]

Oh, go ahead Cotty, you _know_ you want one.
Cotty wrote:
On a mission in the local town and as I strode past my local camera
store, what caught my eye? Three DSLRs in the window - a 1D mark 2
flanked by a Dynax (Maxxum D7) and an *ist DS !
I've never seen a new Pentax in this window ever, let alone a DSLR (T4
Cameras, Witney, UK). The Pentax was £799 - the Minolta £1100, the Canon
didn't have a price tag on it ;-)
Seeing the 1D next to the Pentax did set  my thought processes churning -
I was impressed.
Fighting enablement.

Cheers,
 Cotty
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