Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread Alan Chan
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just reading about AF using the centre point, and recomposing on closer
 subjects - here's a really interesting page:
 http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm

I have been asking myself the same question since I started photography as 
hobby 15
years ago. The only difference was we were using split screen, but otherwise 
the same.

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Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread David Savage
Interesting read, I was thinking about just this subject yesterday.

Although in regards to the following...

It is far better to use a less sensitive/less accurate autofocus
sensor on the edge of the frame that will at least attempt to set the
correct focus distance than to use the more accurate centre sensor
that is guaranteed to focus behind where you intended

...you could always manual focus :-)

Which raises a question. What's the disadvantage to composing and then
focusing? (Obviously focusing aids such a microprisims  split
screens, are not much good then.) When using a matte screen, why focus
using the centre, then recompose?

Or am I the only idiot who manually focuses then composes? :-)

Dave S




On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:52:30 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just reading about AF using the centre point, and recomposing on closer
 subjects - here's a really interesting page:
 
 http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread David Savage
Apologies for the gross overuse of the word then. 

Dave S
(Really should read my messages before I hit send)


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:22:47 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interesting read, I was thinking about just this subject yesterday.
 
 Although in regards to the following...
 
 It is far better to use a less sensitive/less accurate autofocus
 sensor on the edge of the frame that will at least attempt to set the
 correct focus distance than to use the more accurate centre sensor
 that is guaranteed to focus behind where you intended
 
 ...you could always manual focus :-)
 
 Which raises a question. What's the disadvantage to composing and then
 focusing? (Obviously focusing aids such a microprisims  split
 screens, are not much good then.) When using a matte screen, why focus
 using the centre, then recompose?
 
 Or am I the only idiot who manually focuses then composes? :-)
 
 Dave S
 
 
 On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:52:30 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just reading about AF using the centre point, and recomposing on closer
  subjects - here's a really interesting page:
 
  http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm
 
  Cheers,
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Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Feb 2005 at 7:52, Cotty wrote:

 Just reading about AF using the centre point, and recomposing on closer
 subjects - here's a really interesting page:
 
 http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm

even an inch of error in that case is about as significant as a fart in a 
tornado LOL


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Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread Alan Chan
--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or am I the only idiot who manually focuses then composes? :-)

Clearly not...um I mean you are not the only one. vbg

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Re: Photo Essay - Hunt Ban

2005-02-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Cotty wrote:

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/huntban.html

I like quite a few, but I single out the third one. Really, really
good. Find the guy and show him. If I were him I would be glad to
know.

Kostas



PDML Portrait gallery (was: Re: the mighty fall)

2005-02-21 Thread Cotty
Frank sez: 

A self portrait gallery would be fun.  I know Paul Jones did the one
that Cotty refered to (that was the one wherein the now infamous bunny
ears made their debut), but I guess that's gone.

Is Paul still about or has he departed? Did anyone save the page or know
if we could collect the pics from Paul? I would be willing to host the
page if Paul's site is offline.

Or we could start a new one?

The offer is there.




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Re: Hi stranger!

2005-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/05, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed:

good to see you're no longer in woopwoop

You bloody Aussie's crack me up.




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Re: Photo Essay - Hunt Ban

2005-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/05, Simon King, discombobulated, unleashed:

Excellent reportage, and one or two simply beautiful portraits

Thanks Simon :-)




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Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread dagt
Which is one of the reasons why I like good screens and  manual focus primes 
with large apertures.  They make it possible to focus anywhere on the screen 
and compose at the same time. This is faster than any AF I have tried.

DagT

 
 fra: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Just reading about AF using the centre point, and recomposing on closer
 subjects - here's a really interesting page:
 
 http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm
 
 
 
 
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Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

2005-02-21 Thread John Whittingham
 Ewww... I saw the tell-tale underseat triangulation but just
 couldn't believe that someone would cut up a beautiful Ducati
 frame for that huge and heavy lump of a four cyl engine...

Sacrilege I know :) Can't help but admire his engineering prowess though.


John


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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:10:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

 Ewww... I saw the tell-tale underseat triangulation but just
 couldn't believe that someone would cut up a beautiful Ducati
 frame for that huge and heavy lump of a four cyl engine...
 
 Na, I'm not biased. ;-)
 
 Godfrey
 
 --- John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sounds awesome :) Wouldn't have guessed the Duke 750 frame,
  modified beyond  recognition to my eyes.
 
   
   
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Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread Frantisek
MR I just filled in the form on their web site. It says they'll email me a
MR link from which to download the software. It's been a couple of hours
MR and still nothing. How long did it take for you?

It arrived in few minutes... Perhaps they are overloaded now. Bit of a
warning though - for me it doesn't work. I can't get the 100% zoom
image to work. There has been some talk about problems on Athlon
machines.

One thing I miss in it are the curves and levels. I have not been a
big fan of them, but after I finally learned how to work with them, I
would have to learn to use other controls ;-) Same thing I disliked
about PS CS - it has that many different controls to adjust exposure!
Just too many - especially in ACR it's different from normal editing.
I admit that the shadows/brightnes/... sliders in ACR worked quite
well, and probably the few sliders in RSE2005 will work quite well
too, but it's pain learning completely different ways of adjusting
exposure again :(

I would have most liked just grade 00-5 and time, with plugin options
for split-grade and two-bath print developer ;-)

This brings a question - what's your favourite way of adjusting
exposure? What is the most natural to you? In digital developing of
course :)



Good light!
   fra



Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
The PSCS RAW converter provides excellent control over exposure. i use 
the exposure slider to control the brightest highlights. The shadow 
slider adjusts the deepest shadow areas. Then I use the brightness 
slider to adjust the midtone values. You can bring up the midtones with 
the brightness control without affecting the highlights. That's great. 
Finally, the contrast control will move the ends of the histogram away 
from the middle or toward the middle. The sum result is control that's 
more accurate than levels and curves and more intuitive as well. I 
can't imagine working any other way. Sometimes, I'll provide a little 
fine tuning with  the shadows/highlights tool after converting to tiff, 
but generally I do almost all my adjustments in the PSCS RAW converter.
Paul
On Feb 21, 2005, at 6:53 AM, Frantisek wrote:

MR I just filled in the form on their web site. It says they'll email 
me a
MR link from which to download the software. It's been a couple of 
hours
MR and still nothing. How long did it take for you?

It arrived in few minutes... Perhaps they are overloaded now. Bit of a
warning though - for me it doesn't work. I can't get the 100% zoom
image to work. There has been some talk about problems on Athlon
machines.
One thing I miss in it are the curves and levels. I have not been a
big fan of them, but after I finally learned how to work with them, I
would have to learn to use other controls ;-) Same thing I disliked
about PS CS - it has that many different controls to adjust exposure!
Just too many - especially in ACR it's different from normal editing.
I admit that the shadows/brightnes/... sliders in ACR worked quite
well, and probably the few sliders in RSE2005 will work quite well
too, but it's pain learning completely different ways of adjusting
exposure again :(
I would have most liked just grade 00-5 and time, with plugin 
options
for split-grade and two-bath print developer ;-)

This brings a question - what's your favourite way of adjusting
exposure? What is the most natural to you? In digital developing of
course :)

Good light!
   fra



Re: PESO - Rufus

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Lacus
Hello John,
   http://jfwaf.com/Rufus.jpg

Actually this was a case of almost missing the shot because I'm
so used to seeing Rufus sitting around looking magnificent.  But
for some reason this time I looked at him as a photographer, and
saw that nice sunlight breaking through his fur (originally he
was on a different part of the ledge, with even better lighting).
I agree, backlighting works very well here. Very nice picture although I 
would crop the wooden frame on the left. Something like:

http://www.misenet.sk/Rufus/
Cheers,
Bedo.


Re: viewfinder magnifier

2005-02-21 Thread Fred
 I have the viewfinder magnifier for the Spotmatic and friends. I've never
 used it in anger.

And, I'll bet that no animals were harmed during shooting film with it,
either.

Fred




Re: Photo Essay - Hunt Ban

2005-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:

I like quite a few, but I single out the third one. Really, really
good. 

Thanks Kostas :-)




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Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

2005-02-21 Thread John Whittingham
 Ewww... I saw the tell-tale underseat triangulation but just 
 couldn't believe that someone would cut up a beautiful Ducati 
 frame for that huge and heavy lump of a four cyl engine... 

Sacrilege I know :) Can't help but admire his engineering prowess though. 

John 



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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:10:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

 Ewww... I saw the tell-tale underseat triangulation but just
 couldn't believe that someone would cut up a beautiful Ducati
 frame for that huge and heavy lump of a four cyl engine...
 
 Na, I'm not biased. ;-)
 
 Godfrey
 
 --- John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sounds awesome :) Wouldn't have guessed the Duke 750 frame,
  modified beyond  recognition to my eyes.
 
   
   
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Re: PAW: people portraits series 2005, #9

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Some of them try to get away... 

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/09.htm

Taken with Pentax *ist DS + FA 31/1.8. 
Comments and critique always appreciated. 

Great shot! Made me smile.
The blur of the moving subject works because you can still tell she's
smiling. I don't think the photo would be nearly as good if you'd used a
faster shutter speed and frozen the motion. Very Theriaultean. ;-)

-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just reading about AF using the centre point, and recomposing on closer
subjects - here's a really interesting page:

http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm

Kind of a silly article, IMO. It only really applies at close distances
in situations in which you'd be better off using manual focus.

I just use manual focus in these situations :-/

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Photography and writing
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Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm

Kind of a silly article, IMO. It only really applies at close distances
in situations in which you'd be better off using manual focus.

I just use manual focus in these situations :-/

I'm kinda new to this AF thing (just over 2 years) and it's something I
hadn't thought about, as I use the focus, lock, and recompose method with
AF. Having said that, I use manual a lot, and certainly with portraits so
it's not happened to me...

Made me think tho!




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Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ewww... I saw the tell-tale underseat triangulation but just
couldn't believe that someone would cut up a beautiful Ducati
frame for that huge and heavy lump of a four cyl engine... 

Actually, that air-cooled four is surprisingly lightweight.
The builder of the JF1200 has owned and raced Ducatis (a 750 and a
350-that-eventually-became-a-450 on which he won the WERA Vintage 3
national championship) so he knows and loves Dukes. But his requirements
for a streetbike were, first and foremost, low maintenance (and simple
maintenance - no desmo valves!) and reliability. Along with massive
horsepower and a wide powerband. For simplicity's sake he wanted an air
cooled motor. No bodywork, so everything's easy to get at. No one built
a bike that met his criteria so he made his own.

-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: FA50 1.4 corner sharpness

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Lacus
Fred,
There do seem to be small (but not insignificant) optical improvements for
the A (and, it would be assumed, the FA) over the M, but they are still
fairly small differences.  And, for some users, they might be small enough
that the build quality and focus feel of the M over the A (and especially
the FA) might be more significant.
I wouldn't call them improvements - they are just slightly different. 
Yes, you get more sharpness with the A version, but at the expense of 
the bokeh. The M50/1.4 does have absolutely the best bokeh I've ever 
seen. It's hard to judge from the web picture, anyway I've tried to 
support my opinion:

http://www.misenet.sk/Mermaid/
So I have both A and M versions and their 1.7 complements as well. :-)
Bedo.



Keppler's take on DSLR prices drop

2005-02-21 Thread Alin Flaider

  Toying with the Pricing Disaster:
  http://www.photoreporter.com/2005/02-07/features/the_way_it_is.html

  Servus, Alin



Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Or am I the only idiot who manually focuses then composes? :-)
 
 Clearly not...um I mean you are not the only one. vbg
 


What Alan said. I do this too.

ERNR



Re: FA50 1.4 corner sharpness

2005-02-21 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Fred,
 
  There do seem to be small (but not insignificant) optical improvements
 for
  the A (and, it would be assumed, the FA) over the M, but they are still
  fairly small differences.  And, for some users, they might be small
 enough
  that the build quality and focus feel of the M over the A (and
 especially
  the FA) might be more significant.
 
 I wouldn't call them improvements - they are just slightly different. 
 Yes, you get more sharpness with the A version, but at the expense of 
 the bokeh. The M50/1.4 does have absolutely the best bokeh I've ever 
 seen. It's hard to judge from the web picture, anyway I've tried to 
 support my opinion:
 
 http://www.misenet.sk/Mermaid/
 
 So I have both A and M versions and their 1.7 complements as well. :-)


I own and love an M 50 1.4 -- PLEASE y'all, don't tempt me to start yearning 
after an autofocus one!! (I also own, and quite like, an F 50 1.7 but the 1.4 
is just extra special.)

ERNR



RE: FA 20mm samples?

2005-02-21 Thread Amita Guha
 http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d303014.htm
 http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d004002.htm
 http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d104332.htm

Thanks!



Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread Frantisek

Monday, February 21, 2005, 1:07:38 PM, Paul wrote:
PS The PSCS RAW converter provides excellent control over exposure. i use
PS the exposure slider to control the brightest highlights. The shadow
PS slider adjusts the deepest shadow areas. Then I use the brightness
PS slider to adjust the midtone values. You can bring up the midtones with
PS the brightness control without affecting the highlights. That's great.
PS Finally, the contrast control will move the ends of the histogram away
PS from the middle or toward the middle. The sum result is control that's
PS more accurate than levels and curves and more intuitive as well. I
PS can't imagine working any other way. Sometimes, I'll provide a little
PS fine tuning with  the shadows/highlights tool after converting to tiff,
PS but generally I do almost all my adjustments in the PSCS RAW converter.

Thanks! That's very interesting, and helpful, account of it.

Good light!
   fra



Re: Peso -- Check the oil with that fillup sir?

2005-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
Peter,
Would prefer to see texture/detail in the pumps. Does
the sun 'rake' their near side?
I like the possibilities.

Jack
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 Technical Data
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 smc Pentax-FA 20-35mm f4.0 @ f16.
 
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Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread brooksdj
 
 Monday, February 21, 2005, 1:07:38 PM, Paul wrote:
 PS The PSCS RAW converter provides excellent control over exposure.  PS 
 but generally
I do 
almost all my adjustments in the PSCS RAW converter.
 
 Thanks! That's very interesting, and helpful, account of it.
 
 Good light!
fra
 

  I have used the PS Elements 3 Raw converter on a few Pef's.It seems adaqate 
for what i
have 
attempted to do so far.
I thought spending $130.00 Can for El3 before dropping over $800.00 Can for CS 
would be a
good 
idea.:-)

Dave




Re: PESO - Rufus

2005-02-21 Thread Christian


John Francis wrote on 2/20/2005, 5:59 PM:

  http://jfwaf.com/Rufus.jpg

The side-lighting is beautiful.  Nice looking cat for a cat.

-- 
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Re: Photo Essay - Hunt Ban

2005-02-21 Thread Christian


Cotty wrote on 2/19/2005, 11:36 AM:

 
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/huntban.html

My favorite is the last one with the dogs behind the fence.

The second from the top, with the riders on horseback and the hounds 
milling around before the hunt, is a great shot too.  You can really 
feel the energy of the dogs in that shot.

-- 
Christian
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Re: Photo Essay - Hunt Ban

2005-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/huntban.html

My favorite is the last one with the dogs behind the fence.

The second from the top, with the riders on horseback and the hounds 
milling around before the hunt, is a great shot too.  You can really 
feel the energy of the dogs in that shot.

Many thanks Christian. Hope you are well.




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Re: PESO: Roasting Marshmallows, Canadian Style

2005-02-21 Thread Christian


frank theriault wrote on 2/18/2005, 7:24 PM:
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3130444size=lg
 
  Nothing overly serious, just a fun pic, but you may comment if so
  compelled.

I think you have figured out what works with a fish-eye lens.  Very cool 
angle/perspective.

-- 
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Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a DSLR,
but more information is needed.

There have been some comments on the list to the effect that some manual
focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results when used with the
istD(s).  A little more information is needed.  Which lenses are giving
poor results?  In what way are the results poor?  When using a particular
lens, are the problems only in certain circumstances, or across the board. 
I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's bird
shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes.  So, any
comments on the quality of images with various manual lenses would be
appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
helpful as well.

Thanks!

Shel 




Re: FA50 1.4 corner sharpness

2005-02-21 Thread Fred
 There do seem to be small (but not insignificant) optical improvements
 for the A (and, it would be assumed, the FA) over the M, but they are
 still fairly small differences.  And, for some users, they might be
 small enough that the build quality and focus feel of the M over the A
 (and especially the FA) might be more significant.

 I wouldn't call them improvements - they are just slightly different.
 Yes, you get more sharpness with the A version, but at the expense of
 the bokeh. The M50/1.4 does have absolutely the best bokeh I've ever
 seen. It's hard to judge from the web picture, anyway I've tried to
 support my opinion:

I do see what you're saying, Peter, and I also do (basically) agree
(although my personal choice is slightly different).

I do not think that Pentax has ever made a bad 50/1.4 (and this certainly
was true back in the screwmount days, and it is still true in the era of
disappearing FA 50/1.4's).  My point is just that the differences between
Pentax 50/1.4's may be quite subtle (and sometimes not so subtle - the need
for AF, for example, is not a subtle need - g).  So, you really like
the M, while I really like the A (which also has very nice bokeh, in my
opinion, is a wee bit sharper overall than the M, and has the 'A' contacts
that make for simpler use on an eventual *ist DSLR), etc.

I've owned a number of 50's over time, and I've settled on the A 50/1.4
(and the much less frequently used A 50/1.2) as my 50mm keepers.  (I've
got a few 50/1.7's and 50/2's still kicking around, but that's only because
I just haven't gotten rid of 'em.)  (I also have a K 55/1.8, too, I guess.)

Fred




PESO - 5 birds

2005-02-21 Thread Christian
A few new birds. Photographed yesterday afternoon around the lake.

2 Northern Cardinals:
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=0

http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=1

A Junco
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=4

and 2 sparrows:
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=21

http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=22

All shot with the D @iso 200 on an overcast day with Sigma 300/4 and 
1.4x or 2x TCs.  Slight cropping but not much.

Comments welcomed.

-- 
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RE: Peso -- Check the oil with that fillup sir?

2005-02-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Peter,

The detail on the pumps isn't very clear, which diminishes the impact and
interest.  Looks like you've got some lens flare in there, too.  I'd like
to see the shot from the other side of the pumps.  Is there an old and
dilapidated gas station behind them?  Just a thought: a faster shutter
speed might allow for a sharper image.  I don't think you need f16 for DOF
on the istD, and a less sharp background might ad to the impact of the
pumps.

Go back and photograph the scene again from different perspectives, and in
different light.  You've got an interesting subject, and some more pics
might bring up a real gem or two.  Think about photographing the details on
the pump.  The  tetraethyl lead sign is a good point, maybe the face of a
pump with the old fashioned numbers that show the gallons and price for the
purchase, and so on.  Treat the pumps as though they can tell a story of
days past.  Do a real portrait or character study just as you would with a
person.  Use different lenses - using a longer lens might be an interesting
approach, as might a macro or using extension tubes.  Bring a tripod.

Shel 


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 http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_cyowtfs.html

 Technical Data
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 smc Pentax-FA 20-35mm f4.0 @ f16.




MZ-S Autofocus/Exposure Operation

2005-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
As I recall, someone asked about an MZ-S quirk
wherein PF #6 setting would not permit a hold of both
focus and exposure. 
I checked my MZ-S and found that it will not when the
shutter release is partially depressed, but does  when
the AF button on the back is depressed. 
I may not accurately recall the question wording and
it has not as yet shown up in the archives.
Hope helpful.

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PAW: Surprise

2005-02-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!
http://webaperture.com/gallery/photos/43609
No comment.
Boris


Re: Focus + Recompose Hoovers - Interesting Info

2005-02-21 Thread Peter J. Alling
Which is why in critical situations you should manually focus, using the 
ground glass and ignore the focus assist, since a focus sensor probably 
won't be on the point you want in critical focus.

Cotty wrote:
Just reading about AF using the centre point, and recomposing on closer
subjects - here's a really interesting page:
http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm

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Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Fred
Hi, Shel.

 The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a
 DSLR, but more information is needed.

Same situation here, so thanks for asking the question.

 I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's bird
 shots)

And just which lens was used that was so awful?

Fred




Re: PAW: Surprise

2005-02-21 Thread Peter J. Alling
Ok, I won't.
Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
http://webaperture.com/gallery/photos/43609
No comment.
Boris


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Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 There have been some comments on the list to the effect that
some
 manual focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results
when
 used with the istD(s).  A little more information is needed. 
 Which lenses are giving poor results?  In what way are the
 results poor?  When using a particular lens, are the problems
 only in certain circumstances, or across the board. I've seen
 some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's
bird
 shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes. So,
 any comments on the quality of images with various manual
lenses
 would be appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of
larger
 images) might be helpful as well.


Digital sensors are very unforgiving about off-axis chromatic
aberration, much more so than film, and focal length can make a
greater difference as the interaction of the sensor's lenses and
the angle of incidence from light coming from the lens can
exacerbate whatever issues might be there. There are processing
techniques that can be used to reduce these problems as well. 

Blooming at high contrast junctures is another issue where
sensors differ from film response. Thin tree limbs against a
white sky, etc, show this up very clearly. Often the blooming
turns colors (purple, red, magenta, green) depending upon the
specific camera and sensor. Lenses don't contribute to this
directly, but how well the lens manages flare has an effect on
the image quality which can add to or diminish how the blooming
looks. 

The good news is that I have not seen much in way of issues with
the Pentax mf lenses I've acquired. I've acquired a lot of them
in the bare six weeks since I bought this camera, focal lengths
from 24mm to 200mm mostly A series, and all of them seem to
perform very nicely. The A24/2.8 seems to have a bit more flare
than the A28/2.8, the M85/2 as well; The Takumar K 135/2.5 is
only single coated but with a deep lens hood does very
respectably. I can't say that my results are looking
substantially different from what I used to get with similar
lenses on film. I haven't seen Paul's bird shots so I'm not sure
what exactly you're responding to there. 

I have heard from one or two friends that the FA24/2 AL has
quite a bit of CA at wide apertures on the D/DS, but is well
controlled when stopped down. I've also heard one or two
suggestive side references that the FA28/2.8 has a similar issue
but then I've also heard that the FA28 is brilliant and
excellent. ?? Some have mentioned that the FA100 macro has CA
issues which the D-FA100 macro eliminates ... Again, I have no
direct experience, but have heard testimonials in both
directions.

Overall, however, I wouldn't put this issue up as a barrier. So
far, the Pentax lenses I've used on the DS have proven to be
excellent, whether old or new, and all seem to have such
beautiful imaging character that I'm very happy to have moved
into this camera system with the DS from my Canon gear. 

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Keppler's take on DSLR prices drop

2005-02-21 Thread Alin Flaider

  Re-send:
  
  Toying with the Pricing Disaster:
  http://www.photoreporter.com/2005/02-07/features/the_way_it_is.html

  Servus, Alin




Raw problem on mac

2005-02-21 Thread Andre Langevin
I can open my raw pictures in windows XP directly in PS and, without 
any setting, get a good picture.  In mac, the process is different 
and the final result in PS is only a central portion of the original 
photo and all red!  The photo is fine in the small Pentax plug-in 
window.  Is there anything I should know?

Andre


Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread pnstenquist
I really haven't experienced any difficulty with manual lenses that is native 
to the digital process. The fringing on out of focus areas in some of those 
backlit long lens shots occurs on film as well. It's a product of the A2X 
converter in combination with the A 400/5.6 lens. It doesn't seem to have 
anything to do with the digital process. Here's an example where the same thing 
occured on film:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1223558

Although I've been using the DA 16-45 more and more, I use manual lenses for 
the most part with my *ist D. I shoot a lot of studio work for stock with the K 
50/1.4, 85/1.8 and 135/2.5. I'm very pleased with the results, as is my stock 
house. The a 400/5.6 performs fine without the converter and in more normal 
lighting situations.   Here's a shot that is somewhere between crosslit and 
backlit. It's shot with the A 400/5.6 on the *ist D without the converter. The 
red on the water is an algae bloom, not an aberration.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2266884

Paul


 The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a DSLR,
 but more information is needed.
 
 There have been some comments on the list to the effect that some manual
 focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results when used with the
 istD(s).  A little more information is needed.  Which lenses are giving
 poor results?  In what way are the results poor?  When using a particular
 lens, are the problems only in certain circumstances, or across the board. 
 I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's bird
 shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes.  So, any
 comments on the quality of images with various manual lenses would be
 appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
 helpful as well.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Shel 
 
 



RE: Keppler's take on DSLR prices drop

2005-02-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Interesting read.  The comments about the increasing sales of slr's that
use film was most interesting.  While it's only one comment, I seem to
recall reading other articles in which this point is mentioned.  Does this
mean that there's a shift going on, and that the sales of DSLR's are going
to taper off, or that better DSLR's are needed that can produce higher
quality images, or which are easier to use, cheaper to purchase, offer more
lenses .. just musing out loud here.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Alin Flaider

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Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks for clarifying that, Paul ...

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 2/21/2005 9:41:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

 I really haven't experienced any difficulty with manual lenses that is
native to the digital process. The fringing on out of focus areas in some
of those backlit long lens shots occurs on film as well. It's a product of
the A2X converter in combination with the A 400/5.6 lens. It doesn't seem
to have anything to do with the digital process. Here's an example where
the same thing occured on film:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1223558

 Although I've been using the DA 16-45 more and more, I use manual lenses
for the most part with my *ist D. I shoot a lot of studio work for stock
with the K 50/1.4, 85/1.8 and 135/2.5. I'm very pleased with the results,
as is my stock house. The a 400/5.6 performs fine without the converter and
in more normal lighting situations.   Here's a shot that is somewhere
between crosslit and backlit. It's shot with the A 400/5.6 on the *ist D
without the converter. The red on the water is an algae bloom, not an
aberration.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2266884

 Paul


  The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a
DSLR,
  but more information is needed.
  
  There have been some comments on the list to the effect that some manual
  focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results when used with the
  istD(s).  A little more information is needed.  Which lenses are giving
  poor results?  In what way are the results poor?  When using a
particular
  lens, are the problems only in certain circumstances, or across the
board. 
  I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's
bird
  shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes.  So, any
  comments on the quality of images with various manual lenses would be
  appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
  helpful as well.
  
  Thanks!
  
  Shel 
  
  




Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread DagT
I don´t think it´s that simple.  Most of my lenses behave like they did 
with film.  The most disappointing lens is my FA 100 2.8 macro, which 
in some situation have shown CA (or purple fringing is probably a 
better description).

From what I´ve heard some older constructions, especially longer lenses 
are OK, while modern AF lenses with IF, floating lens groups and other 
more specialized designs are more vulnerable.

I can get you examples from any of my lenses, just ask...
DagT
På 21. feb. 2005 kl. 16.44 skrev Shel Belinkoff:
The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a 
DSLR,
but more information is needed.

There have been some comments on the list to the effect that some 
manual
focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results when used with the
istD(s).  A little more information is needed.  Which lenses are giving
poor results?  In what way are the results poor?  When using a 
particular
lens, are the problems only in certain circumstances, or across the 
board.
I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's 
bird
shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes.  So, any
comments on the quality of images with various manual lenses would be
appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
helpful as well.

Thanks!
Shel




Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Cassino
Hi Shel -
I've had no problems at all with my manual focus lenses and the *ist-D.  I 
have shot literally thousands of images with the A* 200 f4 macro, and have 
no lens related complaints. In fact - the *ist-D renders edges so sharply 
that I had to modify my technique for on-the-fly bug close-ups, and now use 
a  monopod for better camera support.

I have also used the *ist-D with the Kiron 105mm f2.8 macro and with the 
A*400 f2.8 plus the 1.7x A adapter - the results were excellent. .

If you look at my botanicals gallery -
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/botanical/botanical.htm
All but one of the New Shots were taken with the *ist-D and either the A* 
200 or Kiron 105. (One shot of the field of Trillium is a 6x7 color neg.)

I point out this directory because the shots are taken without flash - with 
birds and bugs, I almost always use flash. I do use a gold reflector and did 
let a lot of the whites in those botanical shots run to warm tones - I liked 
it at the time.  But I think it does show that the *ist-D can meter well and 
also produce sharp images and a nice bokeh with manual focus lenses. 
Though, I do use a handheld meter in addition to the camera's meter, and put 
a lot of thought into the correct exposure - especially in not losing 
highlights.

I don't know about M, K, and Screwmount lenses - I have only used manual 
focus A lenses.

HTH -
MCC
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Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:44 AM
Subject: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD


The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a DSLR,
but more information is needed.
There have been some comments on the list to the effect that some manual
focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results when used with the
istD(s).  A little more information is needed.  Which lenses are giving
poor results?  In what way are the results poor?  When using a particular
lens, are the problems only in certain circumstances, or across the board.
I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's bird
shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes.  So, any
comments on the quality of images with various manual lenses would be
appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
helpful as well.
Thanks!
Shel




AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Michael Heim

With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. I
can still see the boxes in the dialog, but they are greyed out.

Well, that's the point.

Michael



Re: MZ-S Autofocus/Exposure Operation

2005-02-21 Thread Joe Wilensky
My question was that when the AF button is set up to be able to lock 
both AF and AE (a PF setting option), this actually completely 
_disables_ the AE-L button so that it no longer has any effect when 
pressed. It's an odd quirk, because although the AF and AE 
lock-or-not-lock options on the MZ-S are numerous, it actually 
removes a feature when this setting is chosen. With the AF button set 
this way, it seems there is no longer an AE lock only feature on the 
camera. With a manual focus lens, it's not an issue, because the AF 
button on the back will only serve as an AE lock. Of course, setting 
the AF button to do only an AF lock then lets the AE-L button operate 
as it should, which seems to be the best option for anyone who wants 
a simple AE lock feature. There is also a PF for letting the selected 
focus point be a focus and AE lock, and there's also a PF to have the 
press-the-shutter-button-halfway feature _not_ lock focus at all, so 
the combinations are too plentiful, it seems!

Joe

As I recall, someone asked about an MZ-S quirk
wherein PF #6 setting would not permit a hold of both
focus and exposure.
I checked my MZ-S and found that it will not when the
shutter release is partially depressed, but does  when
the AF button on the back is depressed.
I may not accurately recall the question wording and
it has not as yet shown up in the archives.
Hope helpful.
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Re: Keppler's take on DSLR prices drop

2005-02-21 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
It's the computer industry all over again.
Saturated hardware sales == plummeting prices.
The next solutions are soft
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Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Andre Langevin
From what I´ve heard some older constructions, 
especially longer lenses are OK, while modern AF 
lenses with IF, floating lens groups and other 
more specialized designs are more vulnerable.

DagT
I'm looking for a fast 35/2 for the D.  Would I 
be better with an old K 35/2 or M/A 35/2 than 
with the FA 35/2?

Andre


Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Andre Langevin
Also, as the 24/2 has a bad reputation on the D, would Kiron/Vivitar 
fast 24mm lenses be better?

ANdre


Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

2005-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ewww... I saw the tell-tale underseat triangulation but just
 couldn't believe that someone would cut up a beautiful Ducati
 frame for that huge and heavy lump of a four cyl engine... 
 
 Actually, that air-cooled four is surprisingly lightweight. 

LOL ... An aircooled, four-cyl vs 90 deg VTwin debate on the
Pentax mailing list? Wonders will never cease. ;-)

I dunno, Mark. Light as a 4-cyl 1200cc engine might be, it has
got to be twice the weight of the Ducati 750 bevel drive engine
unit. An air-cooled engine is generally speaking heavier too,
due to all the finning and the increased spacing between bore
centers required to ensure sufficient cooling.

 ...requirements for a streetbike were, first and foremost, low
 maintenance (and simple maintenance - no desmo valves!) ...

More propagation of myth about Ducati valve gear. I've owned
several four cylinder motorcycles as well as several Ducatis
with desmo valve gear. In all cases, without a doubt, the four
cylinder engines take more time to service and maintain,
particularly when setting the valves. 

 .. reliability. Along with massive horsepower and a wide
powerband.

A big four has smaller, less-stressed cylinders and can produce
more horsepower as a result at the same amount of stress on the
engine parts. Thus overall longevity can be greater, assuming
you run the engines at the same specific power level. However,
in on-the-road practice, well-maintained examples of both turn
up similar reliability records, and both have a wide powerband.
The increased displacement of the four simply wins on total
power output, and makes up for its heavier bulk and the effect
on handling. 

 No one built a bike that met his criteria so he made his own.

And that's the bottom line. I have built up several bikes to
meet my particular desires as no one made exactly what I wanted,
too. Specials like this can be delightful and work very well, if
something of a bit of heresy and horror to the purists. ;-)

I enjoy fours, v-fours, flat-twins, v-twins, triples, etc. All
the configurations have their individual charm, positive and
negative aspects. Most of my bikes have been modified to meet my
desires in one way or another, I usually just don't get so
radical as to require a wholesale frame conversion for a street
bike. 

I build my bikes for the road, after all, and the different
needs of road usage vs racing needs apply. When I was building
road-racing bikes for money (in the dark ages before 1978...), I
thought in terms of how many hours between rebuilds and how
quickly a rebuild could be effected. Changing and modifying
frames to achieve new goals was considered de rigeur... 

Bringing this back to photography, the differences between
motorcycle engines/chassis and the character of the motorcycles
they bring into being is much like selecting one of 7 or 8 50mm
lenses for a particular rendering quality or flatness of field
characteristic, eh? ;-)

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Re: MZ-S Autofocus/Exposure Operation

2005-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks! I understood that the point of the initial
post was to learn if anyone else had experienced this
operational quirk.
Actually, the manual advises that F6 setting [2]
nullifies operation of AE lock button.(page 115).

Jack
--- Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My question was that when the AF button is set up to
 be able to lock 
 both AF and AE (a PF setting option), this actually
 completely 
 _disables_ the AE-L button so that it no longer has
 any effect when 
 pressed. It's an odd quirk, because although the AF
 and AE 
 lock-or-not-lock options on the MZ-S are numerous,
 it actually 
 removes a feature when this setting is chosen. With
 the AF button set 
 this way, it seems there is no longer an AE lock
 only feature on the 
 camera. With a manual focus lens, it's not an issue,
 because the AF 
 button on the back will only serve as an AE lock. Of
 course, setting 
 the AF button to do only an AF lock then lets the
 AE-L button operate 
 as it should, which seems to be the best option for
 anyone who wants 
 a simple AE lock feature. There is also a PF for
 letting the selected 
 focus point be a focus and AE lock, and there's also
 a PF to have the 
 press-the-shutter-button-halfway feature _not_ lock
 focus at all, so 
 the combinations are too plentiful, it seems!
 
 Joe
 
 
 As I recall, someone asked about an MZ-S quirk
 wherein PF #6 setting would not permit a hold of
 both
 focus and exposure.
 I checked my MZ-S and found that it will not when
 the
 shutter release is partially depressed, but does 
 when
 the AF button on the back is depressed.
 I may not accurately recall the question wording
 and
 it has not as yet shown up in the archives.
 Hope helpful.
 
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Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also, as the 24/2 has a bad reputation on the D, would
 Kiron/Vivitar fast 24mm lenses be better?

There's been a lot of debate about the FA24/2 AL on the D/DS on
the DPReview forum. I'm not sure what to make of all the debate,
but the word of one poster there whom I know from the PAW list
and other venues I feel is credible. 

He found the lens to be quite sharp all through the aperture
range, found that there was a bit more CA at wide apertures than
he was expecting. But also found that storing exposures in RAW
format and then using Photoshop's Camera Raw plug-in, which has
CA correction utilities, ameliorated this issue to a non-issue.
His biggest beef about the lens was more its size and weight,
which is considerable, and found that he preferred a manual
focus lens anyway. 

He's moved on to a K24/2.8, which I don't know whether he's
received yet. I recently acquired an A24/2.8 and like it a lot:
it demonstrates a bit more flare than the A28/2.8 but is
otherwise an excellent performer on the DS, with sharpness and
rendering quite similar to the A28/2.8. 

Regards the FA35/2.0: I've only heard one person say they didn't
like it on the *ist D, and I don't know if they ever used it on
a film camera. That's the lens I had ordered but changed to an
FA31/1.8, due to its excellent reputation and my desire for an
f/2 lens in this focal length range. 

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Re: FA50 1.4 corner sharpness

2005-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've owned a number of 50's over time, and I've settled on the
 A 50/1.4  (and the much less frequently used A 50/1.2) as my
50mm
 keepers.  (I've got a few 50/1.7's and 50/2's still kicking
around, but that's
 only because I just haven't gotten rid of 'em.) 

:-) I've been in the throes of 50mm lens addiction recently. I
agree on the A50/1.4 ... it's just my favorite so far as it has
the imaging I want as well as feels great .. but today i have
the A50/2 with me and yesterday i was shooting with the F50/1.7.


I find myself quite torn between the convenience of AF and the
feel I get working with manual focus lenses. I carried a
completely AF kit yesterday (31, 50, 135) and today I'm carrying
a completely MF kit (24, 50, 85). When I go traveling, it's
going to be hard to choose which ones to carry... 

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Re: MZ-S Autofocus/Exposure Operation

2005-02-21 Thread Joe Wilensky
I don't see that in my copy -- do you have a revised manual?
And of course, the obvious question to the fact that the AE lock 
button's operation is nullified is -- why?

Joe
Thanks! I understood that the point of the initial
post was to learn if anyone else had experienced this
operational quirk.
Actually, the manual advises that F6 setting [2]
nullifies operation of AE lock button.(page 115).
Jack
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Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Monday, February 21, 2005, 6:07:39 PM, Michael wrote:


With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. I
can still see the boxes in the dialog, but they are greyed out.

 Well, that's the point.

If you are still having trouble with this then, as I explained
yesterday to John, and as I have explained before, you are looking
at the wrong view of that tab.

You have to switch to the 'Advanced ' view (whatever it's called
in German). Then on that tab you find the properties such as 'Titel',
'Kommentar' etc. and click in their value field to make the edit box
appear.

I'm sorry to sound frustrated, but I really don't know how to explain
it more clearly without actually coming to Germany and doing it for
you.

It is a bad piece of user interface design, but all the same, I figured
out how to do it within 1 minute of reading your original email.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
Well this is only half a Pentax lens, Rear Converter-A 2X-S.  The other
half of the lens is an old medium price Bushnell screw mount 200mm tele.
The combination shows chromatic aberration / blooming wide open.  I've
added some 100% crops to show how the nasties can be cured.

http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image1.htm

Powell


At 07:44 AM 21/02/2005 , Shel wrote:

There have been some comments on the list to the effect that some manual
focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results when used with the
istD(s).  A little more information is needed.  Which lenses are giving
poor results?  In what way are the results poor?  When using a particular
lens, are the problems only in certain circumstances, or across the board. 
I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's bird
shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes.  So, any
comments on the quality of images with various manual lenses would be
appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
helpful as well.



PESO - Sharp Enough

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
Goofin' around with an old lens and a new converter.

Added some 100% crops of aberration correction, mainly for Shel.

Powell



istD is back, Tam 28-75mm sample

2005-02-21 Thread Amita Guha
I got my D back today! I had to drive to the UPS dispatch center because for
some reason they put my apartment number but no street address on the
package. But the camera seems to be in great condition. The packing slip
says that they replaced the aperture control magnet and endcoder assembly,
as well as the circuit board and/or the sensor. I need to test to see if my
hot pixels are gone, but I haven't seen them yet.

Anyway, here is a test shot with the Tamron 28-75mm Di. I know some people
were interested in seeing some samples from that lens.
http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/407195/1/16259869


Amita



Re: PESO - 5 birds

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Cassino
Nicely done!
- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Original Message - 
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:06 AM
Subject: PESO - 5 birds


A few new birds. Photographed yesterday afternoon around the lake.
2 Northern Cardinals:
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=0
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=1
A Junco
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=4
and 2 sparrows:
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=21
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=22
All shot with the D @iso 200 on an overcast day with Sigma 300/4 and 
1.4x or 2x TCs.  Slight cropping but not much.

Comments welcomed.
--
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: istD is back, Tam 28-75mm sample

2005-02-21 Thread John Whittingham
Looks like a fine performing lens, I wish they (Tamron) would release a 70-
200 f/2.8 to complement it.

John


-- Original Message ---
From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:26:45 -0500
Subject: istD is back, Tam 28-75mm sample

 I got my D back today! I had to drive to the UPS dispatch center 
 because for some reason they put my apartment number but no street 
 address on the package. But the camera seems to be in great 
 condition. The packing slip says that they replaced the aperture 
 control magnet and endcoder assembly, as well as the circuit board 
 and/or the sensor. I need to test to see if my hot pixels are gone,
  but I haven't seen them yet.
 
 Anyway, here is a test shot with the Tamron 28-75mm Di. I know some people
 were interested in seeing some samples from that lens.
 http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/407195/1/16259869
 
 Amita
--- End of Original Message ---



RE: istD is back, Tam 28-75mm sample

2005-02-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Beautiful photograph. Great lens!
Congrats with you camera repair. Was the repair expensive?
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. februar 2005 20:27
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: istD is back, Tam 28-75mm sample


I got my D back today! I had to drive to the UPS dispatch center because for
some reason they put my apartment number but no street address on the
package. But the camera seems to be in great condition. The packing slip
says that they replaced the aperture control magnet and endcoder assembly,
as well as the circuit board and/or the sensor. I need to test to see if my
hot pixels are gone, but I haven't seen them yet.

Anyway, here is a test shot with the Tamron 28-75mm Di. I know some people
were interested in seeing some samples from that lens.
http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/407195/1/16259869


Amita




RE: PESO - Sharp Enough

2005-02-21 Thread Jens Bladt
so sharp it cut itself right out of the email?
Cheers 
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Powell Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. februar 2005 20:24
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO - Sharp Enough


Goofin' around with an old lens and a new converter.

Added some 100% crops of aberration correction, mainly for Shel.

Powell




Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 04:07 AM 21/02/2005 , Paul wrote:

The PSCS RAW converter provides excellent control over exposure. i use 
the exposure slider to control the brightest highlights. The shadow 
slider adjusts the deepest shadow areas. 

I just learned about using the Alt key while dragging these sliders.
What a huge plus!

Powell



Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, the alt key is a real plus. It will show you what is out of range. 


 At 04:07 AM 21/02/2005 , Paul wrote:
 
 The PSCS RAW converter provides excellent control over exposure. i use 
 the exposure slider to control the brightest highlights. The shadow 
 slider adjusts the deepest shadow areas. 
 
 I just learned about using the Alt key while dragging these sliders.
 What a huge plus!
 
 Powell
 



RE: PESO - Sharp Enough

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
Whoops!
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image1.htm

No not that sharp  :)


At 11:39 AM 21/02/2005 , you wrote:

so sharp it cut itself right out of the email?
Cheers 
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Powell Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. februar 2005 20:24
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO - Sharp Enough


Goofin' around with an old lens and a new converter.

Added some 100% crops of aberration correction, mainly for Shel.

Powell





PESO - Sharp Enough - with url

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image1.htm

Goofin' around with an old lens and a new converter.

Added some 100% crops of aberration correction, mainly for Shel.

Powell 



Re: PESO: A light

2005-02-21 Thread Juan Buhler
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:22:59 -0800 (PST), Gianfranco Irlanda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://www.jbuhler.com/photoblog/index.php?showimage=24

 A truly beautiful shot, Juan!
 Perfect timing, and I love the tonal range. How are you
 converting your shots to BW?

Thanks Gianfranco!

I use the channel mixer in PS, with 25%, 35% and 40% for R, G and B
respectively. I had found these values by observation, but then I
downloaded Petteri Sulonen's actions from here:

http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/n_Digital_BW/n_Digital_BW/a_Digital_Black_and_White.html?page=7

In case that link s too long:

http://tinyurl.com/6gwcy

Those actions include a few to convert to BW trying to emulate
different films. Then the prepare darkroom action sets a few layers
that are useful for tweaking th tonality, dodging/burning, etc.

I always do a batch low res conversion  of the raw images (my contact
sheet), at 1024 pixels horizontal res. My web pictures are from
there. I only go back to the original raw files when printing or when
a photo requires special treatment.

Thanks again for looking.

Ciao,

j



-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog



AW: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread keller.schaefer
I happily use all my manual lenses and I think that the differences
discussed between lenses and betwen digital and analog applications are
overrated - and the words on the digitally improved labels that some
lenses now carry are mostly marketing blurb.

What can be said is that comparing lens performance has become much EASIER
with digital, so that many people do it - but you can still make many
mistakes that spoil the results and lead you to false conclusions. I have
myself 'compared' many of my lenses and I have however fooled myself many
times...
As an example, when you look at 100% crops of images taken wide open, you
are not only judging the lens - you are also judging the focussing ...
unless you made sure that the focussing was VERY accurate (i.e. done
manually  with a loupe). Autofocus is not good enough here.

My bottom line is that with digital it is LESS important which lens you
take. At least stopped down a little they all work well.
As an example, here is a comparison between a lens with a mediocre
reputation, the M 2,8/40 and the F 1.4/50 of which some say it is the best,
both at f=8.
www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-kellersv2/4050.jpg

Yes, you can see the difference - but it isn't big.

Sven




-Ursprungliche Nachricht-
Von: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2005 16:45
An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Betreff: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD


The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a DSLR,
but more information is needed.

There have been some comments on the list to the effect that some manual
focus Pentax lenses don't produce very good results when used with the
istD(s).  A little more information is needed.  Which lenses are giving
poor results?  In what way are the results poor?  When using a particular
lens, are the problems only in certain circumstances, or across the board.
I've seen some awful looking results with some longer lenses (Paul's bird
shots), but they seemed to be relegated to backlit scenes.  So, any
comments on the quality of images with various manual lenses would be
appreciated. Reasonably sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
helpful as well.

Thanks!

Shel




RE: PESO - Sharp Enough

2005-02-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Flaming brilliant!
It ot a Sharp speaker? :-))
I think the right hand picture is perhaps a little over sharpened, isn't it?

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Powell Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. februar 2005 20:59
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: PESO - Sharp Enough


Whoops!
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image1.htm

No not that sharp  :)


At 11:39 AM 21/02/2005 , you wrote:

so sharp it cut itself right out of the email?
Cheers
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Powell Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. februar 2005 20:24
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO - Sharp Enough


Goofin' around with an old lens and a new converter.

Added some 100% crops of aberration correction, mainly for Shel.

Powell






RE: istD is back, Tam 28-75mm sample

2005-02-21 Thread Amita Guha
 Beautiful photograph. Great lens!
 Congrats with you camera repair. Was the repair expensive?
 Jens

Thanks! The repair was free; the camera was still under warranty.

Amita 



Re Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread brooksdj
Shel said: 
 
 The time is getting closer for me to make a decision about getting a DSLR,
 but more information is needed.
sized pics (sections of larger images) might be
 helpful as well.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Shel
 
 
Shel,the only mf lens i have used so far on my D is the A 50 f 1.7. I dont see 
any
problems so far.

Dave





Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've owned several four cylinder motorcycles as well as several 
Ducatis with desmo valve gear. In all cases, without a doubt,
the four cylinder engines take more time to service and maintain,
particularly when setting the valves. 

All I can tell you is that the builder of the Frankenbike has owned,
street-ridden and raced Ducati singles and twins as well as Japanese
fours, and he's worked as a motorcycle mechanic (he's currently the
service manager at a BMW dealership) for over 20 years. 

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: FA 20mm samples?

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d303014.htm
 http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d004002.htm
 http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d104332.htm

Thanks!

 Not that you can tell much from small web images but I suppose they're
better than nothing. My seat-of-the-pants impression is that the 20/2.8
is one of the sharpest lenses I've ever used in terms of actually
resolving detail (the F100/2.8 macro would be its main rival). In the
Stars Over Dolly Sods photo (7d303014), at full resolution you can
actually tell that the brightest star is actually a planet (probably
Venus) because you can see it exhibits a phase like the moon, rather
than being round.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO - Sharp Enough

2005-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Flaming brilliant!
It ot a Sharp speaker? :-))
I think the right hand picture is perhaps a little over sharpened, isn't it?

The right hand shot might be a *little* oversharpened (though it's
within the matter of taste area IMO) for monitor display but
definitely not for printing.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: MZ-S Autofocus/Exposure Operation

2005-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
Manual: Copyright 2001.
I imagine the designers felt it more logical if the AF
button were to operate this combination. 
The referenced manual info is in the lower push- pin
MEMO under the page 115 [F6} heading. It may be that
you're looking for wording other than appears there.
Sorry if I confuse.

Jack

--- Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't see that in my copy -- do you have a revised
 manual?
 
 And of course, the obvious question to the fact that
 the AE lock 
 button's operation is nullified is -- why?
 
 Joe
 
 Thanks! I understood that the point of the initial
 post was to learn if anyone else had experienced
 this
 operational quirk.
 Actually, the manual advises that F6 setting [2]
 nullifies operation of AE lock button.(page 115).
 
 Jack
 
 -- 
 
 Joe Wilensky
 Editor, Cornell Chronicle
 Cornell News Office
 312 College Ave.
 Ithaca, NY 14850
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail
 (607) 255-5373 fax
 
 http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle.html
 
 




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OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...

2005-02-21 Thread Tan and Steve

Hey all,

I just know that one of you out there will be able to answer this!

Basically, I have my lappy networked to my PC via ethernet.  All was working
fine when all of a sudden two days ago, I get the little yellow exclamation
mark over the network connection in the windows task bar near the time.
When I click on it it says that there is Limited or No connectivitiy.  When
I click on repair it says that windows is trying to renew my IP address
but after a while brings up an error and says that it was unsuccessful and
to contact the network administrator (hehe, that would be ME!  eek!). I am
able to view the hard drives and shared folders/files on each computer,
however, I am unable to access the internet or email on the lappy.

I am running Win XP on both systems. Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated!

Thanks so much in advance!!

:)

Tan.

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247



Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Herb Chong
i look at 100% crops at f5.6 or f8 all the time, because that is what i 
shoot often, and many lenses with excellent reputations from pre-*istD days 
don't stand the transition. even on slides, many of the lenses talked about 
here as being exellent aren't acceptable for me.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: keller.schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: AW: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD


As an example, when you look at 100% crops of images taken wide open, you
are not only judging the lens - you are also judging the focussing ...
unless you made sure that the focussing was VERY accurate (i.e. done
manually  with a loupe). Autofocus is not good enough here.



Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
In what way aren't they acceptable?  Can you provide an example?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 2/21/2005 1:20:42 PM
 Subject: Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

 i look at 100% crops at f5.6 or f8 all the time, because that is what i 
 shoot often, and many lenses with excellent reputations from pre-*istD
days 
 don't stand the transition. even on slides, many of the lenses talked
about 
 here as being exellent aren't acceptable for me.




Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-21 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ooooh. I stand corrected. There *is* something uglier than an
Amazonas.
I think you're missing the innocent charm of this machine. ]'-)

God, I hope so...
;-)
Watch it sunshine, or I'll make you ride it whilst you're over here. 
Ever ridden a bike with leading link forks?

m


Re: PESO - Big Dress Day

2005-02-21 Thread mike wilson
Peter J. Alling wrote:
mike wilson wrote:
snip
I thought the Kazimierz, Krakow subtitle to the picture was quite 
enough clue 8-)

Anyway, I see nothing wrong with naming a child with an unusual name. 
They only have to endure vicious spitefulness through infant and 
primary school.  After that, it's plain sailing.

And a great addition to the incomes of members of the psychiatric 
community...

You're not a licensed psychologist, are you?
Definitely not licenced 8-)
m


Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread Derby Chang
Paul wrote
The PSCS RAW converter provides excellent control over exposure. i use 
the exposure slider to control the brightest highlights. The shadow 
slider adjusts the deepest shadow areas. Then I use the brightness 
slider to adjust the midtone values. You can bring up the midtones with 
the brightness control without affecting the highlights. That's great. 
Finally, the contrast control will move the ends of the histogram away 
from the middle or toward the middle. The sum result is control that's 
more accurate than levels and curves and more intuitive as well. I 
can't imagine working any other way. Sometimes, I'll provide a little 
fine tuning with  the shadows/highlights tool after converting to tiff, 
but generally I do almost all my adjustments in the PSCS RAW converter.
Paul

One thing I miss in the PSCS RAW converter is an eyedropper tool. It 
would be great to be able to take a shot of a white and grey card and 
use this reference PEF to get a correctly balanced XMP file for the rest 
of the shoot by just clicking on the cards. As it is, adjusting the 
color temp and tint sliders isn't too bad, but it is subjective. Hmm..I 
suppose I could get an in-camera white balance done.

D
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc



Re: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...

2005-02-21 Thread Alan Chan
--- Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am running Win XP on both systems. Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated!

You may try InternetOptions/Connection/Setup in IE6 to setup the internet 
connection again.

=
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan




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Re: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...

2005-02-21 Thread John Francis
Tan and Steve mused:
 
 
 Hey all,
 
 I just know that one of you out there will be able to answer this!
 
 Basically, I have my lappy networked to my PC via ethernet.  All was working
 fine when all of a sudden two days ago, I get the little yellow exclamation
 mark over the network connection in the windows task bar near the time.
 When I click on it it says that there is Limited or No connectivitiy.  When
 I click on repair it says that windows is trying to renew my IP address
 but after a while brings up an error and says that it was unsuccessful and
 to contact the network administrator (hehe, that would be ME!  eek!). I am
 able to view the hard drives and shared folders/files on each computer,
 however, I am unable to access the internet or email on the lappy.
 
 I am running Win XP on both systems. Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated!


[Question:  if you've lost internet access, how are you sending email?]

Windows file sharing uses a different 'protocol' from Internet access;
it's quite possible to share files, etc., with no internet connection.

To get out onto the Internet you need an IP address (a quadruple of
numbers - something that looks like like 192.168.0.100).  This will be
something you get from your ISP (either a fixed address, or one which is
dynamically allocated from a pool when you dial up or otherwise connect).

In order for two different computers to share a single internet connection
you will usually need something called a 'router'.  It's unclear from your
message whether you can usually do this, or whether you only connect to
the internet from your laptop.  I'll assume the simpler case - access from
the laptop only.  If that is the case I suspect there is something wrong
between your laptop and your ISP.  It could be a connection, a faulty wire,
or something beyond your house.  If it's a dialup connection, is there a
way for you to see whether the phone is 'in use' during the connection?

Try disconnecting and reconnecting the cables.  If you have an external
modem (DLS modem, cable modem, etc.) try power cycling that, as well.



Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Feb 2005 at 10:50, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 There's been a lot of debate about the FA24/2 AL on the D/DS on
 the DPReview forum. I'm not sure what to make of all the debate,
 but the word of one poster there whom I know from the PAW list
 and other venues I feel is credible. 
 
 He found the lens to be quite sharp all through the aperture
 range, found that there was a bit more CA at wide apertures than
 he was expecting. But also found that storing exposures in RAW
 format and then using Photoshop's Camera Raw plug-in, which has
 CA correction utilities, ameliorated this issue to a non-issue.
 His biggest beef about the lens was more its size and weight,
 which is considerable, and found that he preferred a manual
 focus lens anyway. 

I can't agree, with the CA trimmed its sharpness in the corners (which really 
aren't on a *ist D or DS and I've tried two samples to be sure) hoovers 
compared to the A24/2.8, I agree however that it's overly huge and heavy. I 
still own both lenses BTW, just haven't got around to selling the FA24/2 yet 
but it's definitely on the block.

 He's moved on to a K24/2.8, which I don't know whether he's
 received yet. I recently acquired an A24/2.8 and like it a lot:
 it demonstrates a bit more flare than the A28/2.8 but is
 otherwise an excellent performer on the DS, with sharpness and
 rendering quite similar to the A28/2.8. 

I've got a Sigma clip-on Perfect tulip hood for 50mm lens on my A24/2.8, with 
this out of frame flare becomes a non issue.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5268.jpg
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5271.jpg
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5272.jpg
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5274.jpg
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5275.jpg

 Regards the FA35/2.0: I've only heard one person say they didn't
 like it on the *ist D, and I don't know if they ever used it on
 a film camera. That's the lens I had ordered but changed to an
 FA31/1.8, due to its excellent reputation and my desire for an
 f/2 lens in this focal length range.

I haven't owned an FA35/2 but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't very good on 
the *ist D, I've not heard any complaints from people I trust.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Feb 2005 at 11:15, Powell Hargrave wrote:

 Well this is only half a Pentax lens, Rear Converter-A 2X-S.  The other
 half of the lens is an old medium price Bushnell screw mount 200mm tele.
 The combination shows chromatic aberration / blooming wide open.  I've
 added some 100% crops to show how the nasties can be cured.
 
 http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image1.htm

Do you mask and desaturate the purple bloom? It's a good job but sharpening is 
tending to severe?

Also I've found that bloom is exacerbated by the sharpening algorithm in PS CS 
RAW, if I've an image with particularly nasty bloom I'll only sharpen after the 
CA/Bloom is dealt with.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave

One thing I miss in the PSCS RAW converter is an eyedropper tool. It 
would be great to be able to take a shot of a white and grey card and 
use this reference PEF to get a correctly balanced XMP file for the rest 
of the shoot by just clicking on the cards. 

Eye dropper in the upper left hand corner.



RE: PESO - Sharp Enough

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 12:15 PM 21/02/2005 , Jens Bladt wrote:

Flaming brilliant!
It ot a Sharp speaker? :-))
I think the right hand picture is perhaps a little over sharpened, isn't it?

Yes for web viewing at100%.  Fine when reduced to 800 x 600 and likely
about right for printing.

http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image1.htm

Powell



Re: New interesting RAW converter

2005-02-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Feb 2005 at 8:34, Derby Chang wrote:

 One thing I miss in the PSCS RAW converter is an eyedropper tool. It 
 would be great to be able to take a shot of a white and grey card and 
 use this reference PEF to get a correctly balanced XMP file for the rest 
 of the shoot by just clicking on the cards. As it is, adjusting the 
 color temp and tint sliders isn't too bad, but it is subjective. Hmm..I 
 suppose I could get an in-camera white balance done.

My version (2.4) includes an eye-dropper tool for setting WB in the top left 
next to the preview image. I do with it exactly as you describe.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Herb Chong
not sharp enough. the FA 24-90 is one example. shooting Provia, it isn't 
easily distinguishable from any other excellent prime or zoom like the FA 
50/2.8 Macro or the FA* 80-200/2.8. with Velvia, with good technique, it 
shows a little less sharpness. on the *istD, the 1.5x crop factor turns a 
very good lens into an average one. that's not good enough and i don't use 
the FA 24-90 anymore except when i need a light set of 3 lenses to cover 
from 16 to 320mm. if weight is less of an issue, i would rather carry the 
FA* 28-70/2.8, or perhaps the set of 3 Limiteds and the FA* 80-200/2.8 and 
the FA* 400/5.6. the FA* 24/2, of course, has the chromatic aberration i 
don't like. i got rid of all my Sigma lenses, except the 12-24, for 
sharpness, bokeh, and chromatic aberration reasons. the 12-24 shows all of 
the above effects, but not to the degree of the other Sigmas. if there were 
a Pentax 12mm, whether prime or zoom, i would replace the Sigma. the DA 
14/2.8 isn't sharp enough for my liking.

none of these conclusions of mine are based more than seeing the effect of 
the 1.5x crop factor of the sensor. i don't have single examples to show of 
any of these. they are the results of observing my best lenses on both film 
and digital bodies and seeing which of my lenses are the worst with each. 
anything too much worse than my best, i put away, like the 24-90, waiting 
for the occasional roll of film i shoot, or for the day a full frame digital 
from Pentax finally arrives, or i sell.

the FA 50/2.8 Macro,  FA* 80-200/2.8, and the DA 16-45/4 are my benchmarks. 
if i can look at a 100% image from any other lens and can see a sharpness 
difference immediately, then it's not good enough. if i have to compare 
carefully to see a difference, then i keep the lens. wide open performance 
isn't as critical as f8-f11 performance. since i am almost always on a good 
tripod system, vibration movement isn't an issue.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD


In what way aren't they acceptable?  Can you provide an example?



Re: FA 20mm samples?

2005-02-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Feb 2005 at 15:55, Mark Roberts wrote:

  Not that you can tell much from small web images but I suppose they're
 better than nothing. My seat-of-the-pants impression is that the 20/2.8
 is one of the sharpest lenses I've ever used in terms of actually
 resolving detail (the F100/2.8 macro would be its main rival).

It's interesting how perceptions can vary. I still enjoy my A20/2.8 but it's 
now one of the poorest performing WA lenses I own. It's definitely a contender 
for a new super-duper AL design revamp.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



RE: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...

2005-02-21 Thread Tan and Steve

Hi Alan and John!

Thanks so much for your responses - I should probably clarify a couple of
things.

My PC is connected to the internet via cable (broadband).  I use my PC
predominantly, which is how I send and receive emails.  My lappy is my
second 'puter and it connects to the internet THROUGH my network and PC's
internet connection.  The reason for this is that Steve will sit and work on
the lappy whilst I am working on the PC.

When I initially set up the network, I experienced the same problem and a
friend of mine told me to manually enter the IP addresses, and which numbers
to use.  However, I can't remember just where it is that I go to enter the
IP addresses, and I can't remember them anyways!

I did ping them using the command prompt and there is no response from
either, which is strange as I AM able to access files/folders.

Sorry, I am very confusing aren't I?!?! hehe.

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247

-Original Message-
From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2005 7:35 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...


--- Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am running Win XP on both systems. Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated!

You may try InternetOptions/Connection/Setup in IE6 to setup the internet
connection again.

=
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan




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Re: A vision of Guzzis (OT)

2005-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 All I can tell you is that the builder of the Frankenbike has
owned,
 street-ridden and raced Ducati singles and twins as well as
Japanese
 fours, and he's worked as a motorcycle mechanic (he's
currently the
 service manager at a BMW dealership) for over 20 years. 

I worked as a motorcycle and automobile mechanic for a decade or
so, was a parts manager and service writer at a Honda dealership
for about five years as well. Built road racing motorcycles for
a few years too. 

That was well over 20 years ago now. I think I might have a few
years on him. ;-)

Godfrey

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Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 02:54 PM 21/02/2005 , Rob Studdert wrote:

 
 http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image1.htm


Do you mask and desaturate the purple bloom? 

I select the bloom with Color Range and then desaturate.


It's a good job but sharpening is tending to severe?

Yes, for 100% web viewing.


Powell 



Re: Manual Focus Pentax Glass on istD

2005-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't agree, with the CA trimmed its sharpness in the
corners
 (which really aren't on a *ist D or DS and I've tried two
samples
 to be sure) hoovers compared to the A24/2.8, ... 

Difference of opinion, Rob. I haven't owned an FA24/2AL to see
for myself, and so far I'm quite happy with the A24/2.8 so I
likely never will. However, John's opinions have proven quite
credible to me on many occasions so far. 

 I've got a Sigma clip-on Perfect tulip hood for 50mm lens on
 my A24/2.8, with this out of frame flare becomes a non issue.
 
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5268.jpg
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5271.jpg
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5272.jpg
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5274.jpg
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp5275.jpg

I'd be interested to know the part number of that lens hood. I'm
currently using a Nikon HN-1 hood, which is the recommended hood
for a 24mm lens on 35mm format, but I'd like to get something
tighter for the 16x24mm field of view. I do have a B+W 49mm
round hood that is normally suggested for a 24x36mm film camera
format and 50mm lens, perhaps I will try that to see if it
vignettes. 

Any comments on the A35/2.8? I just picked up one of those very
cheap, should be here in a day or three. There's only one
comment on Stan's Pentax list (not a very complimentary one) but
I've read that the M35/2.8 (identical optical formula
supposedly) is quite a good lens, if a little soft wide open. At
the price, I was willing to experiment...

Godfrey



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