Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello John,

I use BreezeBrowser Pro for my galleries.  Works very quickly and
easily.  After it generates, all you have to do is ftp it up to your
site.

Here is a sample of a gallery:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/index.htm

On top of that, it is a full photo organizer with many other features.

www.breezesys.com


-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, October 2, 2005, 11:15:03 PM, you wrote:

JC> Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted earlier,
JC> I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make it faster and
JC> easier to do.  So, I have a question:

JC> Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete
JC> gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or Photobucket or
JC> any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and whatnot on my
JC> own site.

JC> I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so I
JC> can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.

JC> Thanks!

JC> John Celio

JC> --

JC> http://www.neovenator.com

JC> AIM: Neopifex

JC> "Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a
JC> statement." 






Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Mishka wrote on 03.10.05 2:25:

> There are no fast and light normal lenses for APS bodies.
There's Sigma 30/1,4. Nikon has it's AIS 35/1,4 (althought usable with
metering only on D1 and D2 series) and Minolta has AF 35/1,4 too. 35/2 is a
very nice lens on Pentax DSLRs too and is small and light.

> There are no small and light and reasonably fast wides
> (similar to 24/2.8 and 20/2.8) for APS bodies.
Treating it thi way, I could say that there's no 600/2.8 for FF at all,
while you get this FOV with 400/2.8 on APS-C cameras. The same apply to
other long lenses. Something for something.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Shel Belinkoff wrote on 03.10.05 4:25:

> Pentax buys their sensors from Sony, iirc.  Sony has just announced, or
> released, a new camera, the DSC-R1, which uses a Sony-made, 10mp CMOS
> sensor with the dimensions of 14mm x 21mm.  The camera has a retail price
> of $1,000.00.  Seems like Pentax might do well to take advantage of this
> sensor if they can, and if Sony's putting out a camera for $1,000.00 it
> seems that the sensor price might be reasonable enough for Pentax to come
> out with a very competitively priced camera.  Any comments on this?
Unlikely, or we will end with Pentax DSLR with 1.7x crop ;-) I think that
could be sensor that is supposed to be used in forthcoming Nikon D200 with
10.4 MP and full APS-C size.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



RE: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip

2005-10-03 Thread Gautam Sarup
Ann,

One more voice...

Very nice.  Particularly liked your photograph in
the Toledo bus station.

Gautam


> -Original Message-
> From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:10 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip
> 
> 
> I keep adding to this
> 
> random order due to photo.net but my laziness, too
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=518950
> 
> A couple are from bus or train window -
> all digital - sorry, not ist
> 
> ann
> 
> 



Re: Re: UK readers, Kodak Cleaning Solution?

2005-10-03 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/10/02 Sun PM 11:56:53 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: UK readers, Kodak Cleaning Solution?
> 
> Everclear.  95% ethanol. Available at your local liqueur store.
> 
> It has the advantage that if the light fails you can use it to get 
> drunk. It was developed to clean parascope lenses during the war. Mixed 
> with pineapple juice in the South Pacific to make Torpedo Juice (a 
> beverage that made the jungle go away for awhile).
> 
> Only thing wrong with it as a lens cleaner (in the US) is the alcohol 
> tax makes it rather expensive.

Same in the UK.  So the better option is to buy a bottle of the best vodka you 
can find, drink most of it, forget about cleaning the lens and go take 
pictures.  They will look superb.

m


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Re: Adobe camera raw 3.2

2005-10-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Glen wrote on 03.10.05 1:26:

> I just bought the download version of Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0
> yesterday, and I notice it includes Camera Raw version 3.2. (Elements 4.0
> is so new, that it isn't on the shelves of any of the retailers that I
> checked with, but you can buy it direct from Adobe right now.)
Could you try in your free time whether ACR 3.2 enables to do batch
processing under Photoshop Elements 4 just like under PS CS2 or not?

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Dust on Your Sensor

2005-10-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I use a Giottos Rocket hand-bulb blower most of the time and it does  
a great job. I use the Visible Dust Sensor Brush for when the sensor  
is particularly dirty. So far, I've needed to use the Sensor Brush once.


Godfrey


On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:00 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Over in the LeiCanon list, this product was mentioned as a goo  
choice for

dust removal and sensor cleaning.

http://www.visibledust.com/

What do you use ... I may need to add some sensor cleaning stuff to  
my kit.



Shel







Re: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)

2005-10-03 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/10/03 Mon AM 02:25:27 GMT
> To: 
> Subject: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)
> 
> http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id32.html
> 
> The first two are new and show the birds with the lower beak in the water.
> 
> Comments always appreciated.
> 
Excellent environmental stuff.  I prefer the framing of the second.  Did wonder 
about the water on the third. 8-)


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Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Oct 2005 at 9:18, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

> Treating it thi way, I could say that there's no 600/2.8 for FF at all,
> while you get this FOV with 400/2.8 on APS-C cameras. The same apply to
> other long lenses. Something for something.

Ah, bad argument, you can always crop a shot tighter but try to crop one wider 
:-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 03.10.05 10:03:

> Ah, bad argument, you can always crop a shot tighter but try to crop one wider
> :-)
Of course :-) But bear in mind that in case of crop "equipped" cameras you
get "sweet spot" from WA lenses - no more soapy and fuzzy corners, as it is
clearly visible in samples from 5D and on of top L lenses - 17-40/4 ;-)
APS-C dedicated lenses have usually unform sharpness from corner to corner
too, something that is usually close to impossible for FF lenses in corners
on FF sensor. That's one of the reasons why Nikon D2X sells much better than
Canon 1Ds among nature photographers. They've got better sharpness even in
corners, have greter DOF and usually don't need top noise performance above
iso400.
If supposed Nikon D200 with 10 MPix APS-C sensor will be under $2000 SRP and
will have AIS lenses compatibility (it would mean access to the largest
lenses choice among any mount), it will easily outsell 5D.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: PESO - Neve Tzedek series #1

2005-10-03 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


I know a little about Neve Tzedek - about its history and unique character.
This photo shows nothing of the place, shows not one iota of what the area
is about, captures nothing of its character or history.  It's a nice pic -
somewhat graphical in quality - but it could be from anywhere - any town,
city, or village almost anywhere in the world.  Show us Neve Tzedek, not a
sign or a piece of a wall.   What a disappointment.  The whole city is open
to you, and this is what you choose to present?  I'm disappointed.


Will do. I agree with your statement, Shel. I simply found the graphical 
way it came out to be rather nice. This is very plain photo - no hidden 
meaning, no special intention, just a post box that came out nice.


Boris



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread dagt
> Mishka wrote on 03.10.05 2:25:
> 
> > There are no small and light and reasonably fast wides
> > (similar to 24/2.8 and 20/2.8) for APS bodies.

>From what I've seen I'm not sure if I would have been satisfied with the 
>quality of those primes on a full frame dslr anyway.  If they have to 
>reconstruct their lenses it doesn't metter much if they make a DA or D-FA 
>lens.  

DagT



Re: Difference between F and FA lens?

2005-10-03 Thread Lucas Rijnders

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 03:45:46 +0200, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry Fred, I should have looked at mine.
I took the name directly from Boz's site.
You are correct, it DOES NOT say ED on the lens.


stock", still in the box, and it never seemed to live up to the  
reputation

that some wanted it to have.  I originally tried it out on film (manually
focusing it, but I recently tried it as an af lens on my DS, and it still
doesn't impress me.  Sample-to-sample variance has been claimed for the
differing opinions on this lens, and so maybe that's it, and maybe I just
got a bad one...


Now that we're at it... I've had the power zoom FA70-200 for a couple of  
years. I was quite happy with it, until I read that it was supposed to be  
an absolute dog of a lens. Never touched it again, of course ;-)
I recently purchased the F70-210 bases on it's reputation, and I must say  
that, to my amazement, I don't see a staggering difference between the two  
in normal use. I've read this same comment (from someone who used the  
side-by-side) somewhere on the 'net as well, recently.


Now either I have a good FA, a bad F, or I don't know what to look for.  
(Quite possible, though with some other lenses (the FA 28-70/4, the  
vivitar series one 70-210 and the tamron SP90) I could see the diference  
immediately).
Anyone care to comment? In what situations should the F outperform the FA?  
Could their respective reputations be exaggerated?


Oh, on negative film, that is...
--
Regards, Lens-angst Lucas



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Stitching software? 

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Rob Studdert 

> Ah, bad argument, you can always crop a shot tighter but try to crop one
wider 
> :-)




Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so I 
> can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.

Sounds like all you need is a simple script/class to display the thumbnails
on a page of your choice. Is this correct?

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Toralf Lund

Rob Studdert wrote:


On 2 Oct 2005 at 17:57, Toralf Lund wrote:

 


Always glad to amuse ;-) [ ... ]
   



[ ... ] no more issues over scratched films blamed on my perfectly clean camera 
bodies and no more bad print crops etc.
 

I guess I've been lucky in this respect... I've had my fair share of not 
very good prints, but a generally view them as proof copies anyway, if I 
do the development + all prints routine. The film is, however, OK as a rule.



[ ... ]
   



I'm much happier storing my image files on DVD, in fact I migrated all my old 
CD back-ups to DVD as soon as it was economically feasible. DVD media is 
inherently more robust [ ... ]


Possibly. The main issue with DVDs is really that there isn't one common 
format. A bit annoying.



Every DVD I have written successfully has verified and has been 
reliable on later reading, I have no concerns about "separation" etc, I'm 
 

What I was referring to, is that the main risk with CD storage according 
to people that use it for professional archival purposes, is complete 
disintegration of the media, i.e. you don't expect one or two files to 
go bad on you, but you might loose all of them in one go. These people 
expect a lifetime of no more than 10 years from a CD - actually I think 
they sometimes renew the media every 5 years. But they are probably a 
lot more worried (or should I say paranoid) about the loosing the data 
than you and I.




I had a very capable computer system before I bought my digital camera, it was 
designed for digital editing of still images and audio, direct digital capture 
just made the whole process more streamlined. [ ... ] The reality is that a very 
capable computer is pretty inexpensive these days 

Yes. Like I said, the real issue is the data management. Thinking that 
storing a lot of largish files on a computer costs you nothing is very 
naive. It either costs you time or it costs you money (or both). Then 
there is the overall computer maintenance cost...


And you do need some kind of a computer, I think, at least if you want 
to save money. If you let the labs do the job for you, you will easily 
end up with a higher cost than for film. I guess you have one really 
low-cost option in the stand-alone camera media/CD/DVD/camera i/o units, 
though...
   



Not so, some people want the control that a computer provides some don't. For 
instance I have an associate who is computer illiterate and who owns and uses a 
DSLR, they print straight to a little Epson printer which reads cards directly. 
It's not how I'd like to operate but this person is very pleased and they do 
win print prizes at their camera club so it's fulfilling their requirements.


Yeah, I guess it depends on what you want to do. I think, however, it is 
fair to assume that people in general, and subscribers to this list in 
particular, will want to store their picture in a more permanent form 
than what an inkjet print gives you. In fact, prints from a lab would 
probably be better, and cheaper, too...



I do write this persons files to disc as a favour but as they only shoot JPG so 
it wouldn't be costly to have it done at a bureau either.
 

To me, JPG storage just makes no sense for the kind of equipment we are 
discussing here...



Some people throw away their negatives after they receive their prints, digital 
shooters are allowed to do just the same. I'd bet that the vast majority of 
reprints/enlargements made in my country are print copies.

Yeah, if you don't care about the quality... But I really don't 
understand why people who don't would get a DSLR in the first place. Why 
not save even more money by buying a cheap P&S?




If it doesn't suite you to do the work yourself pay someone else


At a higher cost than the one normally expected from film...

but one of the 
biggest advantages to digital image work-flow is the creative control that it 
returns to the photographer. The post-processing stream can become as important 
as the image capture since there is no need to relinquish a large part of the 
process to a lab who can only guess about what you wish to achieve in your 
final prints.


 

I've been thinking that digital cameras *really* start to make a 
difference as and when the media used in the camera itself becomes so 
cheap and reliable that you can simply keep that as a "master copy"...
   



I personally far prefer to have my archive data on optical media than 
electronic media.
 


Yes, but the camera media might conceivably be optical, too.


[ ... ]
 



Fair enough. I don't feel that I would shoot more than now, which is 
perhaps a roll a week, in any case...
   



I suspect that if you had a DSLR you would likely be shooting far more than the 
equivalent of a film per week.


I rather doubt it. A film per week is already shooting "more". The 
normal is, or used to be, 2 or 3 films a year, I think... (I mean, for 
people in general.)


- T




RE: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)

2005-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I like the first (topmost) of the three best.  They're all nice shots,
though ...

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Christian 
>
> http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id32.html




Re: Back from vacation: Lessons learned

2005-10-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, John Coyle wrote:

Dave, do you think the problem might be your metering mode?  I would expect 
the use of averaged metering to cause this type of problem, and have been 
successful with the same sort of set-up (*ist-D and AF330FTZ) using spot 
metering.


This seems to suggest that the metering modes have an effect on flash 
metering. I am not sure this is the case, but I am prepared to be 
corrected. These are different meters.


Very interested,

Kostas



Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread David Oswald
IrfanView along with IrfanView Thumbs will do it.  You can batch convert 
your photos to the proper dimensions and create thumbnailed web 
galleries all in one step.  Then just FTP it to your website.  See 
http://www.irfanview.com




John Celio wrote:
Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted 
earlier, I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make 
it faster and easier to do.  So, I have a question:


Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete 
gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or Photobucket 
or any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and whatnot 
on my own site.


I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so 
I can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.


Thanks!

John Celio

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RE: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Henk Terhell
John, Jalbum (www.jalbum.net) is a gallery generator which is freeware.
It is easily adjusted to your preferred lay-out. My gallery with jalbum
is at www.dewindvanvoorne.nl/fotoalbum

Henk
  

> -Original Message-
> From: John Celio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 03 October, 2005 8:15 AM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator
> 
> 
> Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I 
> posted earlier, 
> I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make 
> it faster and 
> easier to do.  So, I have a question:
> 
> Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete 
> gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or 
> Photobucket or 
> any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and 
> whatnot on my 
> own site.
> 
> I'd prefer this program feature complete page template 
> customization, so I 
> can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> John Celio
> 
> --
> 
http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement." 




Re: PESO - Neve Tzedek series #1

2005-10-03 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Some more info about the neighborhood it was founded by Rotshild
himself. it's been the REALLY beginning of Tel-Aviv and it's REALLY
different from the whole spirit we know now. When you walk there
between the older houses you feel different... it's amazing how the
place can bring you back in time 50-60 years... I really love this
place (you know... ;-) )


I agree.


About your photo - It's nice... but it's an Israelian photo. People
who don't know the language will have difficulties to understand it.
you didn't show the beauty of the place.. Nor the amazing colors nor
the amazing spirit of it... you have the right photos man... why did
you choose to show this one?


Indeed. I just liked the graphics, like I said to my reply to Shel.

I cannot show all of my photos at once you know...

Two more of the series I've shown already, if I am not mistaken:

http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=219730
http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=219839

And there is another, more recent:

http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=221608

Boris



Re: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/10/03 Mon AM 08:50:35 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
> 
> Stitching software? 
> 
> Shel 

Knitting software might be a better analogy (even bigger LOL)

> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Rob Studdert 
> 
> > Ah, bad argument, you can always crop a shot tighter but try to crop one
> wider 
> > :-)
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Mishka
On 10/3/05, Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mishka wrote on 03.10.05 2:25:
>
> > There are no fast and light normal lenses for APS bodies.
> There's Sigma 30/1,4.

not according to sigma -- there's 28/1.8, and it weights a pound

> Nikon has it's AIS 35/1,4 (althought usable with

$500 and 400g, manual focus only

also, i doubt very much that they are anywhere as sharp as 50/1.x

> Treating it thi way, I could say that there's no 600/2.8 for FF at all,
> while you get this FOV with 400/2.8 on APS-C cameras. The same apply to
> other long lenses. Something for something.

correct. but i personally don't care about 600mm/2.8 and care very
much for 50/1.4
and 24/2.8.

mishka



Re: OT: Back in Lake Charles after Rita the Ravager

2005-10-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sid, Good to hear you are safe and more or less sound...  Bob S.

On 10/3/05, Sid Barras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi pentax gang,
> I'm back in Lake Charles, actually been back 5 days now, but I also
> have a phone line that works with my modem now too. Still no
> electricity.
>
> But I'm much more fortunate than about 50% of the population here in
> Calcasieu Parish. (and about 100% of the population of Cameron
> parish, our southern, coastal neighbor)
>
> A full report to follow, with pictures; as soon as I get the trees
> off my roof, and tarps laid down to keep the rain out of my attic.
> Structure of my house is basically undamaged. The vast majority of
> the lovely old live oaks in this area survived. The "water
> oaks" (what I've always called them-- a taller oak tree, with a
> smoother, whiter bark, and an upright growth habit, and these are
> deciduous, though their leaves don't "color" as they drop in autumn)
> are what have mainly devestated the area around here. These trees
> have fallen over, roots and all (and they seem to share a shallow,
> weak root system) and crushed many, many homes around here. Most pine
> trees that have not survived "snapped" in the middle of the trunk, as
> opposed to simply toppling over as the water oaks have. These oaks
> and pines are probably 95% of the trees that fell. Of the others, the
> most common "fallen" varieties are sycamores, magnolias, and cedars.
> Most of the pecans and other hardwoods still stand.
>
> Well, I'm blathering on. More to follow, and more to the point, pics
> for pentax people to peruse..
>
> Sid
>
> PS: Mark, I saw your post-- a South Louisiana pdml gathering sounds
> great. I'm sure we have a few fellows within the "Houston to New
> Orleans" sphere as well... Also, did you hear that Avery Island has
> fairly well survived too?
>
>



Re: OT: Brand new silver LX

2005-10-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
Sure looks like you'll get excellent exposure with it.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: Brand new silver LX

As I mentioned here a few months ago, I just bought a brand new silver LX.

I'm bringing it to the SF PDML next week so you guys can check it out,
but for the rest, you can look at this page:

http://tinyurl.com/8r6fm

:)

j

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Re: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)

2005-10-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
All excellent Christian!

Looks like the workshop was well worth it.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)

http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id32.html

The first two are new and show the birds with the lower beak in the water.

Comments always appreciated.

Thanks

Christian




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Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Tom Reese
Shel asked:

> I've not been reading all the messages in this thread, so maybe I missed
> something about this.
>
> Pentax buys their sensors from Sony, iirc.  Sony has just announced, or
> released, a new camera, the DSC-R1, which uses a Sony-made, 10mp CMOS
> sensor with the dimensions of 14mm x 21mm.  The camera has a retail price
> of $1,000.00.  Seems like Pentax might do well to take advantage of this
> sensor if they can, and if Sony's putting out a camera for $1,000.00 it
> seems that the sensor price might be reasonable enough for Pentax to come
> out with a very competitively priced camera.  Any comments on this?

Pentax is reportedly making their own sensors. That should give them a price
advantage with their new digital SLRs.

Tom Reese



Re: Pentax Future? The future of DSLR cameras....

2005-10-03 Thread Bob Shell


On Sunday, October 2, 2005, at 06:38  PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


 I think this
is mainly due to everyone but Canon relying on an outside source for
sensors.  I know that Nikon has a D2h type body, but it is really
designed for a specific use - still not like the 20D.

The crux of the problem here is sensor suppliers.


Exactly on point, Bruce.  Canon is the only SLR maker who make their 
own sensors.  Every other maker is at the mercy of their supplier, 
Sony.  Until Sony speeds up their release of new large sensors, new 
cameras will just be same old same old.  The only other company big 
enough to challenge Canon is Konica Minolta.  Rather than build 
facilities to make their own sensors, they've launched a joint venture 
with Sony.


Bob



advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Frank Wajer
Hi all,

I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera (for 
example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and hope it has an 
aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses as I'm used to.
However, the prices of prints is getting outrageous, about six times more 
expensive than internet printing services. So I'm thinking about buying a 
filmscanner to fill the gap till the D2 comes. I need a cheap solution that 
gives me good pictures up to 13x18 cm prints. Bigger I'll do the old fashioned 
expensive :-(( way. Any advice?

Frank



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Bob Shell


On Sunday, October 2, 2005, at 10:25  PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Seems like Pentax might do well to take advantage of this
sensor if they can, and if Sony's putting out a camera for $1,000.00 it
seems that the sensor price might be reasonable enough for Pentax to 
come

out with a very competitively priced camera.  Any comments on this?


Just because Sony makes a sensor for their own use does not mean they 
will offer it for sale on the open market.


Bob



Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey

2005-10-03 Thread Don Sanderson
1394 hits on the web page and 158 submissions so far.

Still trickling in.

Tell everyone to go to:

http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax

and take _THE_ Pentax Wishlist survey.


Or, contact me at:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

for comments/suggestions/praise/butt chewing.

Thanks!
Don



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Toralf Lund

John Forbes wrote:

I suspect Toralf is alluding to the fact that more than half of the 
human  beings who have ever lived are still alive today.  As they 
haven't yet  died, we cannot be certain that they will.  (This is very 
worrying.)


Exactly ;-)



I just wish that everyone on this list shared one hundredth part of  
Toralf's optimism.


I don't mind the pessimism in general so much myself. What can get me a 
bit worked up, is the continuous assertion that Pentax will always be 
one step behind because they are a smaller company than some of their 
competitors, that Canon will always make the best cameras because they 
have more money to spend on R&D etc. I just don't think this is the 
case. In fact truly great products often come from more minor players, 
and the highest amount of latest- and-greatest features or the longest 
list of three-letter abbreviations, is not the same thing as making the 
highest-quality products.


- Toralf



Re: PESO: Early Autumn

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/2/05, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=193957
> Just a little picture for you to criticize in my absence (I'm going away for
> work for some days). The title translates something like Early Autumn.
> I'm trying to keep it simple, playing with a cliché, trying to add something
> new to.
>
> And I do know that the top leaf is out of focus ;-)
>
> *istDS, Sigma DC 18-50mm 1:2.8 EX, 18mm, 400 ISO Raw, f/5,6, 1/800
> Both the camera and the leaves are handheld.
>

I like it.  Very simple, nice lighting, nice colours, nice sky, very autumnal.

Lovely photo.

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Brand new silver LX

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/2/05, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I mentioned here a few months ago, I just bought a brand new silver LX.
>
> I'm bringing it to the SF PDML next week so you guys can check it out,
> but for the rest, you can look at this page:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8r6fm
>
> :)

You fooled me again!

I love Vespas.  Congrats on your new baby.

cheers,
frank


--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted 
earlier, I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make it 
faster and easier to do.  So, I have a question:


Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete 
gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or Photobucket or 
any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and whatnot on my 
own site.


I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so I 
can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.


Thanks!

John Celio


	I'm a linux guy.  I don't like super-dooper active XYZ Java CSS 
whizbang database type webpages since they're horrible overkill 98% of the 
time they're used.  I use 'webAlbum'... it's a script that will 
automatically generate static HTML photo galleries.  The template can be 
customized, although I haven't bothered.


-Cory

*
* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
*



Re: OT: Back in Lake Charles after Rita the Ravager

2005-10-03 Thread keith_w

Sid Barras wrote:


Hi pentax gang,


[...]

Well, I'm blathering on. More to follow, and more to the point, pics  
for pentax people to peruse..


Sid

PS: Mark, I saw your post-- a South Louisiana pdml gathering sounds  
great. I'm sure we have a few fellows within the "Houston to New  
Orleans" sphere as well... Also, did you hear that Avery Island has  
fairly well survived too?


Isn't that where the Tabasco peppers are grown and processed?

keith whaley



Re: OT: Back in Lake Charles after Rita the Ravager

2005-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/10/05, Sid Barras, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hi pentax gang,
>I'm back in Lake Charles, actually been back 5 days now, but I also  
>have a phone line that works with my modem now too. Still no  
>electricity.
>
>But I'm much more fortunate than about 50% of the population here in  
>Calcasieu Parish. (and about 100% of the population of Cameron  
>parish, our southern, coastal neighbor)
>
>A full report to follow, with pictures; as soon as I get the trees  
>off my roof, and tarps laid down to keep the rain out of my attic.  
>Structure of my house is basically undamaged. The vast majority of  
>the lovely old live oaks in this area survived. The "water  
>oaks" (what I've always called them-- a taller oak tree, with a  
>smoother, whiter bark, and an upright growth habit, and these are  
>deciduous, though their leaves don't "color" as they drop in autumn)  
>are what have mainly devestated the area around here. These trees  
>have fallen over, roots and all (and they seem to share a shallow,  
>weak root system) and crushed many, many homes around here. Most pine  
>trees that have not survived "snapped" in the middle of the trunk, as  
>opposed to simply toppling over as the water oaks have. These oaks  
>and pines are probably 95% of the trees that fell. Of the others, the  
>most common "fallen" varieties are sycamores, magnolias, and cedars.  
>Most of the pecans and other hardwoods still stand.
>
>Well, I'm blathering on. More to follow, and more to the point, pics  
>for pentax people to peruse..
>
>Sid

Good luck Sid. Take care.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)

2005-10-03 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id32.html

The first two are new and show the birds with the lower beak in the water.


Now Mike's explanation makes illustrated sense ;-).

I don't hate you, I really don't... Hate is wasted emotion... Note to 
self - Don't Hate Christian... ;-)


Boris



Re: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/2/05, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id32.html
>
> The first two are new and show the birds with the lower beak in the water.
>
> Comments always appreciated.
>
> Thanks

All three are wonderful, the first one's the best.  I like the blue
water, the angle of the bird which highlights the gull-wings, the wake
formed by his beak in the water which traces right to left across the
frame.

It's gorgeous!

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/10/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I don't mind the pessimism in general so much myself. What can get me a 
>bit worked up, is the continuous assertion that Pentax will always be 
>one step behind because they are a smaller company than some of their 
>competitors, that Canon will always make the best cameras because they 
>have more money to spend on R&D etc. I just don't think this is the 
>case. In fact truly great products often come from more minor players, 
>and the highest amount of latest- and-greatest features or the longest 
>list of three-letter abbreviations, is not the same thing as making the 
>highest-quality products.

Just yesterday, I advised a colleague to dump the EOS 350D he had
borrowed, and go play with an *istDs. He wasn't happy with the 350 and
assumed all DSLRs at this price point were going to be the same. He's on
his way to try the Ds :-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: OT: Brand new silver LX

2005-10-03 Thread David Savage
LOL Juan mate, that's the second time I've fallen for that.

Dave

On 10/3/05, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I mentioned here a few months ago, I just bought a brand new silver LX.
>
> I'm bringing it to the SF PDML next week so you guys can check it out,
> but for the rest, you can look at this page:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8r6fm
>
> :)
>
> j
>
> --
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
>
>



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Cotty wrote on 03.10.05 14:37:

> Just yesterday, I advised a colleague to dump the EOS 350D he had
> borrowed, and go play with an *istDs. He wasn't happy with the 350 and
> assumed all DSLRs at this price point were going to be the same. He's on
> his way to try the Ds :-)
Let us know what happened ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: OT: Brand new silver LX

2005-10-03 Thread danilo
go vespa go!!

brm popopopoopoopopop

;)

Danilo
vespa px 2001 edition 151cc.



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Gasha

Hi,

i'm using my Epson 3170 for medium format film and for 35mm too.

So far it is good for my needs.
And it was cheap - around $250

Gasha

Frank Wajer wrote:

Hi all,

I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera (for 
example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and hope it has an 
aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses as I'm used to.
However, the prices of prints is getting outrageous, about six times more 
expensive than internet printing services. So I'm thinking about buying a 
filmscanner to fill the gap till the D2 comes. I need a cheap solution that 
gives me good pictures up to 13x18 cm prints. Bigger I'll do the old fashioned 
expensive :-(( way. Any advice?

Frank





Re: PESO - Neve Tzedek series #1

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I recently went for a shoot to Neve Tzedek. Neve Tzedek is The First
> neighborhood of Tel Aviv. That is the city was founded just there...
> This is extremely fascinating place.
>
> Here is one shot from a little series I shot there. Hebrew writing means
> "The planned electricity outage has been *canceled*"...
>
> http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1062967&ref=author
>
> Please click on the image and choose black as a background.
>
> Thanks.
>
> As usual the honest and brutal opinions are sought after.
>

I like the exposure and the composition.  I think my problem is that I
don't know what the heck I'm looking at.  Having the posted notice
explained by you is good, the those things on the wall are unfamiliar
to me.  Not knowing what they are or what they're for leaves me
looking at the photo in terms of pure composition and no context.

Like I said, I do like the composition, but without that context,
there's not enough there to help me to really enjoy it as much as I
think I could.  I think there's a cultural gulf that I need to cross
here.

cheers,
frank


--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Toralf Lund

Cotty wrote:


On 3/10/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed:

 

that Canon will always make the best cameras because they 
have more money to spend on R&D etc. I just don't think this is the 
case. In fact truly great products often come from more minor players, 
and the highest amount of latest- and-greatest features or the longest 
   

That should probably be "*having* the the highest amount of...", or 
whatever...


list of three-letter abbreviations, is not the same thing as making the 
highest-quality products.
   





Just yesterday, I advised a colleague to dump the EOS 350D he had
borrowed, and go play with an *istDs. He wasn't happy with the 350 and
assumed all DSLRs at this price point were going to be the same. He's on
his way to try the Ds :-)
 


Good ;-)

- Toralf



Re: OT: Back in Lake Charles after Rita the Ravager

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/05, Sid Barras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi pentax gang,
> I'm back in Lake Charles, actually been back 5 days now, but I also
> have a phone line that works with my modem now too. Still no
> electricity.
>
> But I'm much more fortunate than about 50% of the population here in
> Calcasieu Parish. (and about 100% of the population of Cameron
> parish, our southern, coastal neighbor)
>
> A full report to follow, with pictures; as soon as I get the trees
> off my roof, and tarps laid down to keep the rain out of my attic.
> Structure of my house is basically undamaged. The vast majority of
> the lovely old live oaks in this area survived. The "water
> oaks" (what I've always called them-- a taller oak tree, with a
> smoother, whiter bark, and an upright growth habit, and these are
> deciduous, though their leaves don't "color" as they drop in autumn)
> are what have mainly devestated the area around here. These trees
> have fallen over, roots and all (and they seem to share a shallow,
> weak root system) and crushed many, many homes around here. Most pine
> trees that have not survived "snapped" in the middle of the trunk, as
> opposed to simply toppling over as the water oaks have. These oaks
> and pines are probably 95% of the trees that fell. Of the others, the
> most common "fallen" varieties are sycamores, magnolias, and cedars.
> Most of the pecans and other hardwoods still stand.
>
> Well, I'm blathering on. More to follow, and more to the point, pics
> for pentax people to peruse..
>
> Sid
>
> PS: Mark, I saw your post-- a South Louisiana pdml gathering sounds
> great. I'm sure we have a few fellows within the "Houston to New
> Orleans" sphere as well... Also, did you hear that Avery Island has
> fairly well survived too?

Sid, you're not blathering.

Thank goodness that you're (relatively) unscathed from Rita, at least
compared to some of your neighbours.  I'm sure you have a great deal
of work ahead of you, but it certainly sounds like you're one of the
fortunate ones.

Thank goodness you're safe, and thanks for the report/update.

cheers,
frank


--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Oct 2005 at 11:05, Toralf Lund wrote:

> Possibly. The main issue with DVDs is really that there isn't one common 
> format. A bit annoying.

I settled on DVD-R since it's the more prevalent media standard.

> What I was referring to, is that the main risk with CD storage according 
> to people that use it for professional archival purposes, is complete 
> disintegration of the media, i.e. you don't expect one or two files to 
> go bad on you, but you might loose all of them in one go. These people 
> expect a lifetime of no more than 10 years from a CD - actually I think 
> they sometimes renew the media every 5 years. But they are probably a 
> lot more worried (or should I say paranoid) about the loosing the data 
> than you and I.

I don't believe optical media longevity is really such a problematic issue, 
there is so much contradictory information circling about that I'm happy to 
rely upon my personal experiences which have been very good over the last ten 
years. What I do know is that some of the older films in my possession have 
disintegrated before my eyes even in near ideal storage conditions.

> Yes. Like I said, the real issue is the data management. Thinking that 
> storing a lot of largish files on a computer costs you nothing is very 
> naive. It either costs you time or it costs you money (or both). Then 
> there is the overall computer maintenance cost...

As I indicated archiving my digital images takes me no more than 45 mins per 
4.7GB of data, that's acceptable to me and the cost is minimal. I do however 
run a large RAID array where I also keep live copies of all my files however 
obviously it's not a necessity.

> Yeah, I guess it depends on what you want to do. I think, however, it is 
> fair to assume that people in general, and subscribers to this list in 
> particular, will want to store their picture in a more permanent form 
> than what an inkjet print gives you. In fact, prints from a lab would 
> probably be better, and cheaper, too...

I'm far happier to store my RAW image files and final edits in digital form, 
it's then so easy to return to the original files to edit or re-print.

> To me, JPG storage just makes no sense for the kind of equipment we are 
> discussing here...

I think you'll find that there are still quite a few people even here on this 
forum that shoot and store their images primarily or only in JPG formats. It 
works for some people.

> Yeah, if you don't care about the quality... But I really don't 
> understand why people who don't would get a DSLR in the first place. Why 
> not save even more money by buying a cheap P&S?

SLRs provide more flexible modes of operation than the general P&S, there are 
all sorts of other reasons why someone may opt for an SLR type camera over a 
P&S, it doesn't all have to be about perceived image quality.

> Yes, but the camera media might conceivably be optical, too.

Hopefully all my best film images will find their way onto optical media in a 
digital form within the next year or so, then I can start making some decent 
prints :-)

> I rather doubt it. A film per week is already shooting "more". The 
> normal is, or used to be, 2 or 3 films a year, I think... (I mean, for 
> people in general.)

Fair enough.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Sorenson
I mainly use BreezeBrowser - it has lots of features and an array of 
templates that are customizable if you can fake your way through a 
little html/java.  At about 80USD it's a good deal.


Another option I use if I want something just quick & dirty is Porta -

http://www.stegmann.dk/mikkel/porta/

Best of all, it's freeware.

-P

John Celio wrote:
Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted 
earlier, I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make 
it faster and easier to do.  So, I have a question:


Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete 
gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or Photobucket 
or any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and whatnot 
on my own site.


I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so 
I can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.


Thanks!

John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement."








Re: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/2/05, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I keep adding to this
>
> random order due to photo.net but my laziness, too
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=518950
>
> A couple are from bus or train window -
> all digital - sorry, not ist
>

What a wonderful gallery!  (so far - I bet you've got many more gems
to show us).

At first blush, these jump out:

Will Call, Lilly, Dusk Near Regina, Morning Coffee, City Lights
Bookstore (which really needs to be in B&W ), Shopping (even if you
weren't in it I'd like it a lot).

Terrific stuff!

cheers,
frank


--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Frank Wajer
Hi again,

how about the Konica Minolta Dimage scan dual IV?
Looks like a nice scanner to me? Anyone use this one?

Frank



Re: OT: Brand new silver LX

2005-10-03 Thread Juan Buhler
On 10/3/05, danilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danilo
> vespa px 2001 edition 151cc.

Cool!  The new PXs are not legal here in California--2-stroke over
50cc are only allowed if vintage...

So it's 4-stroke engines for me.

j

--
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Frank Wajer wrote on 03.10.05 15:12:

> how about the Konica Minolta Dimage scan dual IV?
> Looks like a nice scanner to me? Anyone use this one?
You'd better look for Elite II because it has hardware based dust and
scratches removal (ICE) - it saves a lot of time. Dual IV does it via
software and only removes dust, but is is far from being 50% as good as true
ICE. And because it is slightly older scanner than Dual IV, you should find
one used for similar price to newer one.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Toralf Lund"

Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...



I don't mind the pessimism in general so much myself. What can get me a 
bit worked up, is the continuous assertion that Pentax will always be one 
step behind 


We just have to look at their performance over the past 35 years or so to 
figure this out.


William Robb




Re: Re: UK readers, Kodak Cleaning Solution?

2005-10-03 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"

Subject: Re: Re: UK readers, Kodak Cleaning Solution?





Same in the UK.  So the better option is to buy a bottle of the best vodka 
you can find, drink most of it, forget about cleaning the lens and go take 
pictures.  They will look superb.


Clean lenses are over rated anyway. I've seen more lenses damaged by overly 
anal cleaning than by dust.


William Robb 





Re: UK readers, Kodak Cleaning Solution?

2005-10-03 Thread Bob Shell


On Monday, October 3, 2005, at 09:18  AM, William Robb wrote:



Same in the UK.  So the better option is to buy a bottle of the best 
vodka you can find, drink most of it, forget about cleaning the lens 
and go take pictures.  They will look superb.


Clean lenses are over rated anyway. I've seen more lenses damaged by 
overly anal cleaning than by dust.


William Robb



One photographer I know was quite famous for the look of his images, 
sharp but slightly misty.  Many had speculated on just how he got that 
look.  Actually it was an accident, he told me.  He never put lens caps 
on his lenses, and stored them on a shelf in the living room of his 
apartment face up.  He is a heavy smoker.  After a few years of this 
his lenses developed a nice patina, and his photos looked just the way 
he envisioned them.  I won't name names, but he is a Pentax 
user/spokesperson and has shot a number of the Pentax calendars in the 
past.


Bob



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd not worry about the aperture coupler, the *ist-Ds2 is unlikely to 
have new mechanical features, it's mostly the *ist-Ds electronics in a 
*ist-DL body shell. 


Frank Wajer wrote:


Hi all,

I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera (for 
example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and hope it has an 
aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses as I'm used to.
However, the prices of prints is getting outrageous, about six times more 
expensive than internet printing services. So I'm thinking about buying a 
filmscanner to fill the gap till the D2 comes. I need a cheap solution that 
gives me good pictures up to 13x18 cm prints. Bigger I'll do the old fashioned 
expensive :-(( way. Any advice?

Frank


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Christian
Try coppermine Photo Gallery.  It uses PHP, MySQL and apache to create 
thumbnails and intermediate images.


http://coppermine-gallery.net/index.php

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 2:15 AM
Subject: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator


Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted 
earlier, I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make it 
faster and easier to do.  So, I have a question:


Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete 
gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or Photobucket 
or any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and whatnot on 
my own site.


I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so I 
can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.


Thanks!

John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement."






Re: OT: Back in Lake Charles after Rita the Ravager

2005-10-03 Thread pnstenquist
Good news. We were starting to worry about you. The first reports suggested 
only minimal damage in Lake Charles, but as the days went by a much more 
disturbing picture emerged. Hope you get everything back together real soon.
Paul


> Sid, Good to hear you are safe and more or less sound...  Bob S.
> 
> On 10/3/05, Sid Barras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi pentax gang,
> > I'm back in Lake Charles, actually been back 5 days now, but I also
> > have a phone line that works with my modem now too. Still no
> > electricity.
> >
> > But I'm much more fortunate than about 50% of the population here in
> > Calcasieu Parish. (and about 100% of the population of Cameron
> > parish, our southern, coastal neighbor)
> >
> > A full report to follow, with pictures; as soon as I get the trees
> > off my roof, and tarps laid down to keep the rain out of my attic.
> > Structure of my house is basically undamaged. The vast majority of
> > the lovely old live oaks in this area survived. The "water
> > oaks" (what I've always called them-- a taller oak tree, with a
> > smoother, whiter bark, and an upright growth habit, and these are
> > deciduous, though their leaves don't "color" as they drop in autumn)
> > are what have mainly devestated the area around here. These trees
> > have fallen over, roots and all (and they seem to share a shallow,
> > weak root system) and crushed many, many homes around here. Most pine
> > trees that have not survived "snapped" in the middle of the trunk, as
> > opposed to simply toppling over as the water oaks have. These oaks
> > and pines are probably 95% of the trees that fell. Of the others, the
> > most common "fallen" varieties are sycamores, magnolias, and cedars.
> > Most of the pecans and other hardwoods still stand.
> >
> > Well, I'm blathering on. More to follow, and more to the point, pics
> > for pentax people to peruse..
> >
> > Sid
> >
> > PS: Mark, I saw your post-- a South Louisiana pdml gathering sounds
> > great. I'm sure we have a few fellows within the "Houston to New
> > Orleans" sphere as well... Also, did you hear that Avery Island has
> > fairly well survived too?
> >
> >
> 



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Technically advanced and feature rich don't always translate to best.  
Best is what does the job.  Sometimes a "lesser" product that has what 
you need is the best. 


Toralf Lund wrote:


John Forbes wrote:

I suspect Toralf is alluding to the fact that more than half of the 
human  beings who have ever lived are still alive today.  As they 
haven't yet  died, we cannot be certain that they will.  (This is 
very worrying.)



Exactly ;-)



I just wish that everyone on this list shared one hundredth part of  
Toralf's optimism.



I don't mind the pessimism in general so much myself. What can get me 
a bit worked up, is the continuous assertion that Pentax will always 
be one step behind because they are a smaller company than some of 
their competitors, that Canon will always make the best cameras 
because they have more money to spend on R&D etc. I just don't think 
this is the case. In fact truly great products often come from more 
minor players, and the highest amount of latest- and-greatest features 
or the longest list of three-letter abbreviations, is not the same 
thing as making the highest-quality products.


- Toralf





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling

Double Traitor.

Cotty wrote:


On 3/10/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed:

 

I don't mind the pessimism in general so much myself. What can get me a 
bit worked up, is the continuous assertion that Pentax will always be 
one step behind because they are a smaller company than some of their 
competitors, that Canon will always make the best cameras because they 
have more money to spend on R&D etc. I just don't think this is the 
case. In fact truly great products often come from more minor players, 
and the highest amount of latest- and-greatest features or the longest 
list of three-letter abbreviations, is not the same thing as making the 
highest-quality products.
   



Just yesterday, I advised a colleague to dump the EOS 350D he had
borrowed, and go play with an *istDs. He wasn't happy with the 350 and
assumed all DSLRs at this price point were going to be the same. He's on
his way to try the Ds :-)




Cheers,
 Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_



 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
DALSA has a full-frame sensor, so does Kodak. In fact the older DALSA FF 
6MP sensor was in the CONTAX N Digital and the MZ-D, they currently 
offer a 11MP Sensor.


-Adam

Bruce Dayton wrote:

The reality is that everyone but Canon has done this, because no one
else has a full frame sensor.  All the other manufacturers would be
foolish to not provide some wide angle lenses to compensate for the
crop factor.  However, if they made full frame ones, they would be too
big and heavy and too expensive.  All you have to do is compare the
size/weight and price of the 15/3.5 to the DA 14/2.8 to see that.





Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Adam Maas

Tom Reese wrote:

Shel asked:



I've not been reading all the messages in this thread, so maybe I missed
something about this.

Pentax buys their sensors from Sony, iirc.  Sony has just announced, or
released, a new camera, the DSC-R1, which uses a Sony-made, 10mp CMOS
sensor with the dimensions of 14mm x 21mm.  The camera has a retail price
of $1,000.00.  Seems like Pentax might do well to take advantage of this
sensor if they can, and if Sony's putting out a camera for $1,000.00 it
seems that the sensor price might be reasonable enough for Pentax to come
out with a very competitively priced camera.  Any comments on this?



Pentax is reportedly making their own sensors. That should give them a price
advantage with their new digital SLRs.

Tom Reese


Since when. Pentax is an Optics company not a semi-conductor company, 
but does not have access to a chip fab as far as I'm aware.


-Adam



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread pnstenquist
Rob noted:
> As I indicated archiving my digital images takes me no more than 45 mins per 
> 4.7GB of data, that's acceptable to me and the cost is minimal. 

I've been archiving with the new LaCie 16X DVD burner. With Titanium Toast 6, 
it can pack 4.7 gigs onto a DVD in about ten minutes. For right around $250, 
that burner was one of the best investments I've ever made. I've now gotten in 
the habit of archiving important shots immediately. Yesterday I filled three 
one gig cards shooting a jewelry ad. Ten minutes after I got home the files 
were on my hard drive and a DVD. Once I process the RAWs, I'll burn another DVD 
with the select tiffs and all the original RAWs.
Paul
> 


> On 3 Oct 2005 at 11:05, Toralf Lund wrote:
> 
> > Possibly. The main issue with DVDs is really that there isn't one common 
> > format. A bit annoying.
> 
> I settled on DVD-R since it's the more prevalent media standard.
> 
> > What I was referring to, is that the main risk with CD storage according 
> > to people that use it for professional archival purposes, is complete 
> > disintegration of the media, i.e. you don't expect one or two files to 
> > go bad on you, but you might loose all of them in one go. These people 
> > expect a lifetime of no more than 10 years from a CD - actually I think 
> > they sometimes renew the media every 5 years. But they are probably a 
> > lot more worried (or should I say paranoid) about the loosing the data 
> > than you and I.
> 
> I don't believe optical media longevity is really such a problematic issue, 
> there is so much contradictory information circling about that I'm happy to 
> rely upon my personal experiences which have been very good over the last ten 
> years. What I do know is that some of the older films in my possession have 
> disintegrated before my eyes even in near ideal storage conditions.
> 
> > Yes. Like I said, the real issue is the data management. Thinking that 
> > storing a lot of largish files on a computer costs you nothing is very 
> > naive. It either costs you time or it costs you money (or both). Then 
> > there is the overall computer maintenance cost...
> 
> As I indicated archiving my digital images takes me no more than 45 mins per 
> 4.7GB of data, that's acceptable to me and the cost is minimal. I do however 
> run a large RAID array where I also keep live copies of all my files however 
> obviously it's not a necessity.
> 
> > Yeah, I guess it depends on what you want to do. I think, however, it is 
> > fair to assume that people in general, and subscribers to this list in 
> > particular, will want to store their picture in a more permanent form 
> > than what an inkjet print gives you. In fact, prints from a lab would 
> > probably be better, and cheaper, too...
> 
> I'm far happier to store my RAW image files and final edits in digital form, 
> it's then so easy to return to the original files to edit or re-print.
> 
> > To me, JPG storage just makes no sense for the kind of equipment we are 
> > discussing here...
> 
> I think you'll find that there are still quite a few people even here on this 
> forum that shoot and store their images primarily or only in JPG formats. It 
> works for some people.
> 
> > Yeah, if you don't care about the quality... But I really don't 
> > understand why people who don't would get a DSLR in the first place. Why 
> > not save even more money by buying a cheap P&S?
> 
> SLRs provide more flexible modes of operation than the general P&S, there are 
> all sorts of other reasons why someone may opt for an SLR type camera over a 
> P&S, it doesn't all have to be about perceived image quality.
> 
> > Yes, but the camera media might conceivably be optical, too.
> 
> Hopefully all my best film images will find their way onto optical media in a 
> digital form within the next year or so, then I can start making some decent 
> prints :-)
> 
> > I rather doubt it. A film per week is already shooting "more". The 
> > normal is, or used to be, 2 or 3 films a year, I think... (I mean, for 
> > people in general.)
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> 
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> 



Re: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip

2005-10-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote:
> 
> as much as I hate to line up with the crowd, I agree with both. 

Heaven forefend!

>I don't know
> which name kept going through my head more: Robert Frank, or Edward Hopper.

WOw - well, um, frankly (ohoh pun alert) I'm
awfully glad to have someone
think of Hopper - I'm a big fan.  But I'll take
getting mentioned in the
same breath with Frank... 

Golly - you guys know how to make a girl feel
good.

> Makes me want to buy a Greyhound ticket.

Bob, trust me, you DON'T want to do THAT :)

> 
> I'm getting a bit sick of PDMLers and their galleries. First Juan, then
> Jostein, now this. I may have to give up photography.
> 
> --
> Cheers,
>  Bob

I'm awfully pleased to be in their company, too!

annsan the blushing
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 02 October 2005 08:32
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip
> >
> > > Really nice gallery Ann, your eye for line and form is
> > second to none.
> >
> > As much as dislike agreeing with Cotty ;-) (kidding), I agree
> > with him completely.
> >
> > Ann, you rule!
> >
> > --
> > Boris
> >
> >
> >
> >



Enablement: Photo Vest

2005-10-03 Thread Jens Bladt
Surprise! I got my vest with the Canon-logos today.
That is amazingly fast. I ordered it Friday from Hong Kong! How do they do
this??

Well, I paid 30 USD for shipping - still THAT IS FAST - 3 days!!
It is actually a copy of the well known (ebay) Fotodiox Deluxe Pro Photo
Vest from Illinois, USA.
Only cheaper and with Canon EOS logos (got to get rid of those soon :-)

Regards
Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt




Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Charles Robinson

On Oct 2, 2005, at 23:54, John Francis wrote:


But that's not relevant.  The complaint was that the *ist-D didn't
have the same brightness, or the same magnification, as the MX.
That's not so - at the same magnification, the viewfinder images
appear equally bright.  Obviously at the same magnification the
*ist-D has a smaller image.  But that's because it has a smaller
sensor, and the different viewfinder image sizes reflect this.



OK, then maybe the word "magification" is the wrong word to use.

My impression, based on the non-scientific method of "having just  
looked through one for a half minute" is that the ME Super viewfinder  
looked brighter probably just because the image was so LARGE through  
there.  Even if both viewfinders have the same intensity of light  
coming off of the focusing screen to the user's eye, the older  
(larger) viewfinders are going to seem brighter because of the larger  
surface area (I guess).


Like I've said before, there's not much that can be done about it -  
but the older viewfinders still are more satisfying to look through.   
Too bad they hold film (which I haven't used in over two years now).


 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Adam Maas

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

Frank Wajer wrote on 03.10.05 15:12:



how about the Konica Minolta Dimage scan dual IV?
Looks like a nice scanner to me? Anyone use this one?


You'd better look for Elite II because it has hardware based dust and
scratches removal (ICE) - it saves a lot of time. Dual IV does it via
software and only removes dust, but is is far from being 50% as good as true
ICE. And because it is slightly older scanner than Dual IV, you should find
one used for similar price to newer one.



That depends on if you're shooting colour or not. ICE doesn't work on 
traditional B&W films (it does on C-41 B&W) or Kodachrome.


I've got the Scan Dual III and am very happy with it. But I shoot about 
75% B&W (more now, with the D I see no need to ever shoot colour film again)


-Adam



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
Frank mentioned the D2 not the DS2. The D2 might have full mechanical 
coupling, but I do consider that unlikely.


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:
I'd not worry about the aperture coupler, the *ist-Ds2 is unlikely to 
have new mechanical features, it's mostly the *ist-Ds electronics in a 
*ist-DL body shell.

Frank Wajer wrote:


Hi all,

I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera 
(for example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and hope 
it has an aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses as I'm 
used to.
However, the prices of prints is getting outrageous, about six times 
more expensive than internet printing services. So I'm thinking about 
buying a filmscanner to fill the gap till the D2 comes. I need a cheap 
solution that gives me good pictures up to 13x18 cm prints. Bigger 
I'll do the old fashioned expensive :-(( way. Any advice?


Frank


 








Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Tom Reese wrote:
>> 
>> Pentax is reportedly making their own sensors. That should give them a price
>> advantage with their new digital SLRs.
>
>Since when. 

Over a year, at this point. 

>Pentax is an Optics company not a semi-conductor company, 
>but does not have access to a chip fab as far as I'm aware.

Every digital camera manufacturer that doesn't now make their own
sensors is currently working toward being able to do so. Pentax among
them. Supposedly Pentax's CMOS sensor will be going into the ist-D
replacement.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip (and stuff re bw)

2005-10-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:
> 
> On 10/2/05, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I keep adding to this
> >
> > random order due to photo.net but my laziness, too
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=518950
> >
> > A couple are from bus or train window -
> > all digital - sorry, not ist
> >
> 
> What a wonderful gallery!  (so far - I bet you've got many more gems
> to show us).
> 
> At first blush, these jump out:
> 
> Will Call, Lilly, Dusk Near Regina, Morning Coffee, City Lights
> Bookstore (which really needs to be in B&W ), Shopping (even if you
> weren't in it I'd like it a lot).
> 
> Terrific stuff!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 

Frank (and all you guys)
again , thanks so much for your encouragement -
and it really is helpful
when people pick out faves.  I think MY favorite
is the high desert morning,
so lucky to get that one.. to be in that place..
f8 and be there .

I took a lot of shots I would have taken in BW had
I been shooting film -
but I'm now getting used to shooting color.  I'm
not happy with my conversions
to black and white from color for display... there
were any number of times
on the trip where I missed having my trusty KX or
LX, tri-x and a 50mm f1.4.

ann



> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, P. J. Alling wrote:


Frank Wajer wrote:

I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera (for 
example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and hope it has an 
aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses as I'm used to.


I'd not worry about the aperture coupler, the *ist-Ds2 is unlikely to have 
new mechanical features, it's mostly the *ist-Ds electronics in a *ist-DL 
body shell.


He said istD2 (no S in there :-). Still the same answer will likely 
hold true though.


Kostas (stay out of it, JCO, next year again)



Re: PESO - Cape May teaser (OT - not Pentax)

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/1/05, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Black skimmer:  errr. ummm.  skimming
>
> http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-27
>
> or if the above link isn't working or is taking too long:
>
> http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id32.html
>
> Comments always welcome.

This is the one that I liked best of the gallery of three, right?

Well, I think it's an amazing shot.  Someone else said that it's Nat'l
Geo quality.  I agree with that - it's that good.

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



RE: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Henk Terhell wrote:


John, Jalbum (www.jalbum.net) is a gallery generator which is freeware.


Back in May when I asked I got similar answer and picked JAlbum. Only 
used it once, and quite happy I was about it. Seemed fairly 
customisable as well.


Kostas



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm beginning to think that the Ds2 is the D2 at this point.  I expect a 
new body and new name for a truly upgraded body, sorry.


Adam Maas wrote:

Frank mentioned the D2 not the DS2. The D2 might have full mechanical 
coupling, but I do consider that unlikely.


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

I'd not worry about the aperture coupler, the *ist-Ds2 is unlikely to 
have new mechanical features, it's mostly the *ist-Ds electronics in 
a *ist-DL body shell.

Frank Wajer wrote:


Hi all,

I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera 
(for example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and 
hope it has an aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses 
as I'm used to.
However, the prices of prints is getting outrageous, about six times 
more expensive than internet printing services. So I'm thinking 
about buying a filmscanner to fill the gap till the D2 comes. I need 
a cheap solution that gives me good pictures up to 13x18 cm prints. 
Bigger I'll do the old fashioned expensive :-(( way. Any advice?


Frank


 










--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread graywolf
Photoshop CS2 will generate a photo gallery. You get several choices of 
styles.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



John Celio wrote:

Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted 
earlier, I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make 
it faster and easier to do.  So, I have a question:


Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete 
gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or 
Photobucket or any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages 
and whatnot on my own site.


I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, 
so I can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.


Thanks!

John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making 
a statement."







Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread graywolf

Stitch, stitch, stitich...

But that is not always the same .

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



Rob Studdert wrote:


On 3 Oct 2005 at 9:18, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 


Treating it thi way, I could say that there's no 600/2.8 for FF at all,
while you get this FOV with 400/2.8 on APS-C cameras. The same apply to
other long lenses. Something for something.
   



Ah, bad argument, you can always crop a shot tighter but try to crop one wider 
:-)



Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998


 





Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, Cotty wrote:


On 2/10/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:


The Chongites think that Pentax might pull out of photography.





The sensible thing is just to forget the whole issue.


...and pretend it doesn't exist.


First of all, can I kindly ask that you drop the "chongites" business, 
it is a personal attack and as such it does not befit this list, in my 
opinion.


You also see, John, that there are other people who agree with Herb 
that Pentax needs to up the ante, and do so fast too, irrespective of 
whether they accept Herb's financial accounts of Pentax.


Why not pull out of this thread if speculation is not your thing, or 
contribute sparsely or extensively as you please, but please keep your 
bitter rage for yourself or thrash it out with Herb offline, if he is 
interested.


Kostas



RE: Difference between F and FA lens?

2005-10-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, Joseph Tainter wrote:


I love mine too (on film). But the standard disclaimer comes from Dario:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/t04p13e.htm


--

I recall suggesting to Dario that I thought he might have focusing problems 
with his F 70-210 in this test, that that the entire test should be redone 
focusing on a brick wall. He agreed, but I guess he never redid the test, or 
took down these invalid results.


I think he re-shot them and concluded that the lens has *focusing 
problems*. Which is what the test shows. Or did I misunderstand what 
you are contesting?


Kostas
p.s.: The misattribution is not my deed :-)



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Tim Sherburne

I'm on the precipice of enablement for one of these. I'll be interested to
see what others say. Comments in the PDML archives are generally positive.

t

On 10/3/05 6:12, Frank Wajer wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> how about the Konica Minolta Dimage scan dual IV?
> Looks like a nice scanner to me? Anyone use this one?
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> 




Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread graywolf

So, they are up an operational?

You are correct, eventually all serious digital camera makers will have 
to have their own fab capability or they will not be able to compete 
with Canon. And BTW, for those who say Pentax can not afford a fab (I do 
not agree with that. Venture capital is always available.), you do not 
necessarily need to own one, you can lease production time from one 
owned by someone else.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



Mark Roberts wrote:


Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


Tom Reese wrote:
   


Pentax is reportedly making their own sensors. That should give them a price
advantage with their new digital SLRs.
 

Since when. 
   



Over a year, at this point. 

 

Pentax is an Optics company not a semi-conductor company, 
but does not have access to a chip fab as far as I'm aware.
   



Every digital camera manufacturer that doesn't now make their own
sensors is currently working toward being able to do so. Pentax among
them. Supposedly Pentax's CMOS sensor will be going into the ist-D
replacement.


 





Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Bob Shell
A better way to put it would be to say that no one but Canon has a 
reasonably priced full frame sensor.  The Dalsa one has a much higher 
price, and the Kodak is stratospheric.


Bob

On Monday, October 3, 2005, at 10:05  AM, Adam Maas wrote:

DALSA has a full-frame sensor, so does Kodak. In fact the older DALSA 
FF 6MP sensor was in the CONTAX N Digital and the MZ-D, they currently 
offer a 11MP Sensor.


-Adam

Bruce Dayton wrote:

The reality is that everyone but Canon has done this, because no one
else has a full frame sensor.  All the other manufacturers would be
foolish to not provide some wide angle lenses to compensate for the
crop factor.  However, if they made full frame ones, they would be too
big and heavy and too expensive.  All you have to do is compare the
size/weight and price of the 15/3.5 to the DA 14/2.8 to see that.







Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Frank Wajer
> I'd not worry about the aperture coupler, the *ist-Ds2 is unlikely to 
> have new mechanical features, it's mostly the *ist-Ds electronics in a 
> *ist-DL body shell. 

I was thinking about the D2 not the DS2.

Frank

> 
> Frank Wajer wrote:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera (for 
> >example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and hope it has an 
> >aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses as I'm used to.
> >However, the prices of prints is getting outrageous, about six times more 
> >expensive than internet printing services. So I'm thinking about buying a 
> >filmscanner to fill the gap till the D2 comes. I need a cheap solution that 
> >gives me good pictures up to 13x18 cm prints. Bigger I'll do the old 
> >fashioned expensive :-(( way. Any advice?
> >
> >Frank
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> When you're worried or in doubt, 
> Run in circles, (scream and shout).
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 09:58:45 -0400
> From: "Christian" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Internet Photo Gallery Generator
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> format=flowed;
> charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Try coppermine Photo Gallery. It uses PHP, MySQL and apache to create 
> thumbnails and intermediate images.
> 
> http://coppermine-gallery.net/index.php
> 
> Christian
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Celio" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 2:15 AM
> Subject: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator
> 
> 
> > Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted 
> > earlier, I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make it 
> > faster and easier to do. So, I have a question:
> >
> > Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete 
> > gallery on your own website? I do not want to use Flickr or Photobucket 
> > or any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and whatnot on 
> > my own site.
> >
> > I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so I 
> > can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John Celio
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.neovenator.com
> >
> > AIM: Neopifex
> >
> > "Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
> > statement."
> > 
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:58:32 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: OT: Back in Lake Charles after Rita the Ravager
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Good news. We were starting to worry about you. The first reports suggested 
> only minimal damage in Lake Charles, but as the days went by a much more 
> disturbing picture emerged. Hope you get everything back together real soon.
> Paul
> 
> 
> > Sid, Good to hear you are safe and more or less sound... Bob S.
> > 
> > On 10/3/05, Sid Barras wrote:
> > > Hi pentax gang,
> > > I'm back in Lake Charles, actually been back 5 days now, but I also
> > > have a phone line that works with my modem now too. Still no
> > > electricity.
> > >
> > > But I'm much more fortunate than about 50% of the population here in
> > > Calcasieu Parish. (and about 100% of the population of Cameron
> > > parish, our southern, coastal neighbor)
> > >
> > > A full report to follow, with pictures; as soon as I get the trees
> > > off my roof, and tarps laid down to keep the rain out of my attic.
> > > Structure of my house is basically undamaged. The vast majority of
> > > the lovely old live oaks in this area survived. The "water
> > > oaks" (what I've always called them-- a taller oak tree, with a
> > > smoother, whiter bark, and an upright growth habit, and these are
> > > deciduous, though their leaves don't "color" as they drop in autumn)
> > > are what have mainly devestated the area around here. These trees
> > > have fallen over, roots and all (and they seem to share a shallow,
> > > weak root system) and crushed many, many homes around here. Most pine
> > > trees that have not survived "snapped" in the middle of the trunk, as
> > > opposed to simply toppling over as the water oaks have. These oaks
> > > and pines are probably 95% of the trees that fell. Of the others, the
> > > most common "fallen" varieties are sycamores, magnolias, and cedars.
> > > Most of the pecans and other hardwoods still stand.
> > >
> > > Well, I'm blathering on. More to follow, and more to the point, pics
> > > for pentax people to peruse..
> > >
> > > Sid
> > >
> > > PS: Mark, I saw your post-- a South Louisiana pdml gathering sounds
> > > great. I'm sure we have a few fellows within the "Houston to New
> > > Orleans" sphere as well... Also, did you hear that Avery Island has
> > > fairly well survived too?
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:06:16 -0400
> From: "P. J. Alling" 
> To: pentax-d

Re: PESO: On My Way Home

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/2/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was walking home from work yesterday, on a beautiful
> autumn afternoon, and came upon this fella soaking up
> the last rays of the sun:
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3773799
>
> Technical: Pentax Optio 33L, -1.7 stops exposure
> compensation, cropped and contrast boosted a bit in PE
> 2.
>
> Plaudits and brickbats welcomed.
>
> Rick
>

Cool.  I really like the lighting here.  And, I always like turtles. 
The branch on the upper left is blown out, but it really doesn't
bother me here.

Nice one.

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread R.C.Booth
Frank, I use a Minolta Dimage IV and am very pleased with it.  However I 
would advise looking for a scanner with Digital Ice software bundled with 
it.  The Dimage does not but I have purchased LaseSoft Imaging's SilverFast 
software which does an excellent job.  If I was to do it again I would put a 
priority on Digital Ice even at the expense of less resolution.


RCB
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Wajer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:52 AM
Subject: advice for filmscanner



Hi all,

I'm not yet ready to dump my analog camera and buy a digital camera (for 
example a ist-ds). In fact I want to wait for the istD2 and hope it has an 
aperture coupler so I'll be able to use my K/M lenses as I'm used to.
However, the prices of prints is getting outrageous, about six times more 
expensive than internet printing services. So I'm thinking about buying a 
filmscanner to fill the gap till the D2 comes. I need a cheap solution 
that gives me good pictures up to 13x18 cm prints. Bigger I'll do the old 
fashioned expensive :-(( way. Any advice?


Frank



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Re: PESO - follow up 3 skimmers skimming (OT - not Pentax)

2005-10-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
I concur with Frank - the one you showed us first was technically well
done, but didn't grab me much.  The first in the series does.  Nice
work!

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, October 3, 2005, 5:37:16 AM, you wrote:

ft> On 10/2/05, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id32.html
>>
>> The first two are new and show the birds with the lower beak in the water.
>>
>> Comments always appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks

ft> All three are wonderful, the first one's the best.  I like the blue
ft> water, the angle of the bird which highlights the gull-wings, the wake
ft> formed by his beak in the water which traces right to left across the
ft> frame.

ft> It's gorgeous!

ft> cheers,
ft> frank

ft> --
ft> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Frank,

If you are shooting 35mm only and mostly print film rather than
slides, it would be a good choice.  I have used the Scan dual II for
several years and am happy with it's price/performance.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, October 3, 2005, 6:12:06 AM, you wrote:

FW> Hi again,

FW> how about the Konica Minolta Dimage scan dual IV?
FW> Looks like a nice scanner to me? Anyone use this one?

FW> Frank


 



Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Tim Sherburne

Hey John... You didn't mention a platform, but I you're on the Mac, might I
suggest Galerie:



It's free and works very well with iPhoto. You can create your own
templates, and the author and other users have created quite an extensive
library if you're not in to that.

Tim


On 10/2/05 23:15, John Celio wrote:

> Hey y'all, after putting together the Spin Doctors gallery I posted earlier,
> I decided I'm never going to post many photos if I don't make it faster and
> easier to do.  So, I have a question:
> 
> Are there any programs out there that will help you set up a complete
> gallery on your own website?  I do not want to use Flickr or Photobucket or
> any other site, I want to keep the photos and the pages and whatnot on my
> own site.
> 
> I'd prefer this program feature complete page template customization, so I
> can make the resulting pages look like any other page on my site.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> John Celio
> 
> --
> 
> http://www.neovenator.com
> 
> AIM: Neopifex
> 
> "Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a
> statement." 
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: Help: Internet Photo Gallery Generator

2005-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Photoshop v 7 and CS also have the gallery feature.  The galleries can be
modified, and even templates taken from other galleries can be used if you
know what you're doing.

Shel 

> [Original Message]
> From: graywolf 

> Photoshop CS2 will generate a photo gallery. You get several choices of 
> styles.




RE: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip

2005-10-03 Thread Butch Black
Nice series Ann. I particularly liked bus stop in Redmond Ca. and morning 
coffee. I liked the space needle but think it could use a bit of contrast. 
Try using the black eyedropper on the needle if you are using PS, Elements, 
or most of the other image editing programs.


Butch 





Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Charles,

I have to partially agree with you.  The size of the image in the old
MX, ME Super, LX and such are truly wonderful.  Buy my experience with
using slower lenses with them rather sucks.  They are too grainy and
darken too quickly compared to the D - When I put a 3.5 or slower lens
on my MX, it becomes very annoying - just darker and course looking.
At 2.8 and faster it is very nice.  The D is usable without being so
annoying to at least 5.6.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, October 3, 2005, 7:11:39 AM, you wrote:
CR> OK, then maybe the word "magification" is the wrong word to use.

CR> My impression, based on the non-scientific method of "having just
CR> looked through one for a half minute" is that the ME Super viewfinder
CR> looked brighter probably just because the image was so LARGE through
CR> there.  Even if both viewfinders have the same intensity of light
CR> coming off of the focusing screen to the user's eye, the older  
CR> (larger) viewfinders are going to seem brighter because of the larger
CR> surface area (I guess).

CR> Like I've said before, there's not much that can be done about it -
CR> but the older viewfinders still are more satisfying to look through.
CR> Too bad they hold film (which I haven't used in over two years now).

CR>   -Charles

CR> --
CR> Charles Robinson
CR> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CR> Minneapolis, MN
CR> http://charles.robinsontwins.org





Re: Super Takumar vs. SMC Takumar

2005-10-03 Thread Andre Langevin
Some Super-Takumar are multicoated but they are uncommon.  They were 
the last batch of Super-Takumar before the lens mechanism was updated 
for open aperture metering.


Super-Takumar and single-coating lenses are now prefered by some 
japanese photographers for black-and-white.  And today you also find 
the new Voigtlander 40/1.4 as a S.C. lens, and it is more expensive 
than the M.C. version!


Will there be a S.C. craze as there has been a bokeh craze?

Andre

The SuperTaks are multicoated, it's just not the SMC coatings, which 
are better.

And darnit, I've been looking for a SMC/Super Takumar 35/3.5...

-Mat

On 10/2/05, Peter Spiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Today at a camera fair I passed up what might have been a good deal on a
 SuperTakumar 35mm f/3.5 lens.  I'm hoping to find the multi-coated version
 instead.   Does anybody have experience in using both kinds?  Is there a
 noticeable difference, e.g., in contrast, under ordinary shooting
 conditions?   (I've never actually used a Super Takumar lens, but I used to
 have some pre-multi-coated Olympus Zuiko lenses which I recall had quite low

 > contrast, and this has prejudiced me against these older lenses.)




Re: PESO - Neve Tzedek series #1

2005-10-03 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


I like the exposure and the composition.  I think my problem is that I
don't know what the heck I'm looking at.  Having the posted notice
explained by you is good, the those things on the wall are unfamiliar
to me.  Not knowing what they are or what they're for leaves me
looking at the photo in terms of pure composition and no context.


Like I said - it is a post box with Electric Company notice in it. If I 
were to consider it an abstract, would help?



Like I said, I do like the composition, but without that context,
there's not enough there to help me to really enjoy it as much as I
think I could.  I think there's a cultural gulf that I need to cross
here.


Frank, if I may - here is another shot of the series:

http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=221882

I wonder what would you have to say?

Boris



RE: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-03 Thread Derek
Nice summary Tom.

Derek


> And here I think is a key item in this discussion I'd like to bring to 
> peoples attention.  I'm not picking on Jens here, I promise.  He wrote:
> 
> >I am in fact a very proud owner of a *istD and a MZ-S.
> 
> The thing is, I'm a proud owner of Pentax equipment as well.  No one here is 
> attacking anyone's purchasing decision.  Keep on enjoying your Pentax 
> equipment.  If someone's self-esteem has been injured so that they must 
> defend Pentax no matter what, well I'm sorry.
> 
> The discussion seems to go:
> 
> Statement:  "I'm worried about Pentax and their future viability in the 
> market place".
> 
> The response seems to be:  "I like my Pentax camera, how dare you say 
> anything negative about Pentax".
> 
> We're not even talking about the same thing.
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Whenever I have some money to spend - I go for some nice glass. F. 2.8 or
> >better, regardless of the focal length.
> >Right now I'm testing a Sigma 2.8/70-200mm AP0. I'm considering a used FA
> >2.8/80-200mm in stead.
> >
> >At first the MZ-D was predicted to have a price tag of 10.000 USD. I would
> >probably never get it anyway.
> >The people who judge, buy or order my photographs never ask what camera
> >brand I use.
> >Only the photographs are of any interst.
> >
> >
> >Jens Bladt
> >Arkitekt MAA
> >http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> >
> >
> >-Oprindelig meddelelse-
> >Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sendt: 1. oktober 2005 23:11
> >Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >Emne: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
> >
> >
> >That pretty well sums it up for me. Good post, John.
> >Paul
> >On Oct 1, 2005, at 4:05 PM, John Forbes wrote:
> >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > The continual negativism on this forum doesn't make it a better place,
> > > and it certainly doesn't HELP Pentax.  What is does is to distort
> > > people's assessment of Pentax's true position.
> > >
> > > You wouldn't think so from some of the posts, but Pentax is a
> > > profitable company. It clearly went through a hard time when it was
> > > forced to abandon the MZ-D, and I personally think it has bounced back
> > > from that rather well.  A company with less financial muscle, and less
> > > commitment to photography, would have given up then.  The fact that it
> > > didn't speaks volumes.
> > >
> > > As the more level-headed members of this site point out, the current
> > > DSLR range (the D, incidentally, is still available) meets the needs
> > > of most people, even most PDML members.  Yes, it would be nice to have
> > > extra bells and whistles, but most of us don't actually need them, and
> > > many of us wouldn't pay very much for them. That's not to deny that
> > > there are some photographers whose needs are clearly not well served
> > > by the present line-up.  However, they are a small minority, and with
> > > luck (and a little time), the D replacement will address their
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > It is noteworthy that there are now very few list members left who
> > > have not bought a Pentax DSLR.  Clearly, there must be something good
> > > about them.
> > >
> > > In my view the Pentax DSLRs provide a much better picture-taking
> > > experience than any 35mm film camera, and I expect my two D bodies to
> > > be active for some time to come, whatever the future of Pentax.  That
> > > means I will continue to buy lenses.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:20:45 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> In answer to your last question, yes I've perceived that to be the
> > >> case sometimes, but not with the Chongwagon comment.  However, it's
> > >> not all whining and negativism.  Some of it's an ongoing analysis
> > >> and, yes, speculation regarding the future of the brand, and
> > >> therefore the wisdom of future potential 'investments'.
> > >>
> > >> I single-handedly, and others who tend to share the same views, will
> > >> not make those views come true.  Pentax, having marketed and produced
> > >> in the manner they have, are responsible for their image, ranking in
> > >> the marketplace.
> > >>
> > >> Tom C.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > >>> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
> > >>> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:38:16 +0100
> > >>>
> > >>> Which is a pretty big market if you think about it, in MF terms.
> > >>>
> > >>> Why don't you post a lot more negative messages about Pentax?  That
> > >>> way  you'll make your worst fears come true.
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems to me that in life we need a certain amount of optimism.
> > >>> People  who get things done are optimists; people who whinge and
> > >>> bellyache are not  nice to know and tend not to amount to much.
> > >>>
> > >>> Have you noticed that the most prolific posters of pictures on this
> > >>> site,  and the best photographers, do not as a rule jump 

Re: PESO: On My Way Home

2005-10-03 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Frank!  That branch bothered me a bit, too,
but the photo lost something when I cropped it out, or
reduced the contrast enough to preserve its detail.

Rick

--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 10/2/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was walking home from work yesterday, on a
> beautiful
> > autumn afternoon, and came upon this fella soaking
> up
> > the last rays of the sun:
> >
> >
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3773799
> >
> > Technical: Pentax Optio 33L, -1.7 stops exposure
> > compensation, cropped and contrast boosted a bit
> in PE
> > 2.
> >
> > Plaudits and brickbats welcomed.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> 
> Cool.  I really like the lighting here.  And, I
> always like turtles. 
> The branch on the upper left is blown out, but it
> really doesn't
> bother me here.
> 
> Nice one.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri
> Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 




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Re: Pentax Logo DIY

2005-10-03 Thread Stephen Moore


Bruce Dayton wrote:


Hello Tom,

I'm in.  Make that two for me.


Is this the rare occasion when a "me too" post isn't
looked askance at?

Put me in for a couple or three.

Stephen Moore



Re: advice for filmscanner

2005-10-03 Thread Gasha


I used Acer ScanWit 2740 (with ICE) some time ago.
Film holder was excellent. And bundled software worked ok.

Minoltas bundled software was not easy to use, so you have to try 
SilverFast or something else.


Gasha

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Hello Frank,

If you are shooting 35mm only and mostly print film rather than
slides, it would be a good choice.  I have used the Scan dual II for
several years and am happy with it's price/performance.





Re: PESO - Neve Tzedek series #1

2005-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hello Boris - My original comment - to which you've neither responded nor
acknowledged - stands for this one as well.  On the chance you've not seen
my first post, I'll just repost it here.  There's nothing new to be added
or anything to be deleted:

Hello Boris ...

I know a little about Neve Tzedek - about its history and unique character.
This photo shows nothing of the place, shows not one iota of what the area
is about, captures nothing of its character or history.  It's a nice pic -
somewhat graphical in quality - but it could be from anywhere - any town,
city, or village almost anywhere in the world.  Show us Neve Tzedek, not a
sign or a piece of a wall.   What a disappointment.  The whole city is open
to you, and this is what you choose to present?  I'm disappointed.

Shel 

> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman 

> Frank, if I may - here is another shot of the series:
>
> http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=221882
>
> I wonder what would you have to say?




Re: PESO - Neve Tzedek series #1

2005-10-03 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Hello Boris - My original comment - to which you've neither responded nor
acknowledged - stands for this one as well.  On the chance you've not seen
my first post, I'll just repost it here.  There's nothing new to be added
or anything to be deleted:


Shel, the list is hiccuping again, I think. Here is what I responded to 
your original comment:


"Will do. I agree with your statement, Shel. I simply found the 
graphical way it came out to be rather nice. This is very plain photo - 
no hidden meaning, no special intention, just a post box that came out 
nice."


Thanks!

Boris




Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce ...

A good point, although one I cannot really comment upon other than to say
I've never used a lens as slow as a 5.6 so I cannot make any comparisons. 
However, I have used a number of 3,5 lenses on cameras from the original
Spottie through the LX, and have ~just~ started to use them on the DS. 
Perhaps I'll make a few comparison viewings and see if what you say holds
true for me, and my old, tired eyes, as well.

If you really want to be blown away, use some fast glass - f2.0 or faster -
with one of the new, brighter LX screens, or one of the screens
specifically designed for use with fast glass ... WOW!

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Bruce Dayton

> I have to partially agree with you.  The size of the image in the old
> MX, ME Super, LX and such are truly wonderful.  Buy my experience with
> using slower lenses with them rather sucks.  They are too grainy and
> darken too quickly compared to the D - When I put a 3.5 or slower lens
> on my MX, it becomes very annoying - just darker and course looking.
> At 2.8 and faster it is very nice.  The D is usable without being so
> annoying to at least 5.6.




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