RE: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
G'day Fred. Mate thanks for the heads-up. I've just updated the Ds. Like the auto ISO Love the AF/c Adore the AE-L selection. The tiny pictures in selection of the picture modes may be cute on a PS, but seems too toyish for a DSLR. Thanks Mate. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, Australia -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2005 4:12 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: *ist DS Firmware 2.00 *ist DS firmware 2.00 is out - http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20050415e.html Changes - - AF mode has been added to the [Rec. Mode] in the Menu and the AF mode - Auto Sensitivity has been added in the sensitivity mode - AE-L button on M has been added in the Custom menu - The effect of Digital soft filters can be selected from weak, middle or strong - Dutch and Swedish languages has been added to the language - The sample picture will be displayed in the LCD monitor when select picture modes - For prevent the confusion, the item that was not able to be set by the menu, made a gray character. Fred -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/188 - Release Date: 29/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/188 - Release Date: 29/11/2005
Re: I'm back
On 30/11/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Brain surgery? On 11/30/05, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back, Bill. Ask your doctor is he can do anything for Cotty. Joe Tried it. Didn't work. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Thanks! (firmware update for -DS)
I don't know if anyone FROM Pentax reads this list, but if so, I wanted to publicly say thanks for the firmware update for the *ist-DS. I installed Version 2.0 tonight. It was just as easy as the previous upgrade, but with seemingly much more benefit. The greyed-out Fn menu options is a helpful addition indeed. No more wondering why auto-flash doesn't work in 'P' mode (hint, in v2.0 that option is grayed out to reflect the fact that it's not really an option). The AF-C and AF-S mode selection is probably the most important and meaningful addition. This actually adds real-shooting functionality that was essentially missing (or severely crippled) in the earlier firmware versions. And putting Auto-ISO on the Fn menu is where it belongs. The changes to the custom menu are helpful as well. The new artwork for the various pic modes is fluff, but why not I guess. ;) Anyway, thanks for continuing to support us -DS users.
Re: srbg to Adobe RGB ?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:00:10PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: srbg to Adobe RGB ? The stock stuff I submit has to be Adobe RGB - am I screwed? or is there a way I can take that tif and translate it into Adobe RGB. I have a sinking feeling that I cant. Edit/ Convert to Profile. The window that opens allows you to covert the image to the new profile. Hopefully, Elements has that. William Robb Sort of. First of all, you have to have turned on full colour management. Once you've done that you'll get an option to select the colour space as part of the Save As dialog box.
Re: PUG open
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:26:10AM +0100, Adelheid v. K. wrote: Hi folks, The December PUG is available on my website AND on the komkon server. http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/05dec and http://pug.komkon.org Happy celebrations Cheers Adelheid Thanks, Adelheid. The thumbnail images appear to be rather over-compressed, though; they all show some pretty nasty JPEG artifacts.
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your take the image from the camera to the printer, you will see almost no difference. If you take the image from the camera to the computer doing a little editing along the way you will see a little bit of difference. If you reopen the image and do a bit more editing and save it a couple of times you will see quite a bit of difference. Tom, you're talking about re-saving as jpeg each time. No point. I shoot jpeg all the time. I copy across from card to computer. Those that get worked on are saved as PSDs, period. Then: some are re-sized up to 300ppi for printing (usually not saved) some are re-sized down to 700 pixels along the longest edge and saved as (smaller) PSDs ready to use directly in my website software (Freeway) or some are re-sized down to a suitable size for viewing on a computer screen and turned into 50~100 KB jpegs (using the 'save for web' function in CS) ready for email. Aside from the last option, I don't revisit the jpeg format once the image has left the camera. Freeway creates the jpeg from the ~1MB PSD files and does a good job (aside from stripping the profile out of it - something they are working on, I have been told). BTW, my hair upped and left long before I ate my hat ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Re: I'm back
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/01 Thu AM 08:05:46 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm back On 30/11/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Brain surgery? On 11/30/05, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back, Bill. Ask your doctor is he can do anything for Cotty. Joe Tried it. Didn't work. Cheers, Cotty You're not supposed to do it yourself. ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
SMC Pentax-DA FISH-EYE 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 ED [IF]
Has been announced: http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=6813 For a picture: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-DA_Fish-Eye_10-17mm_F3.5-4.5_ED_(IF)/reqID--6729/subsection--Digital_35mm_zoom -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Thanks! (firmware update for -DS)
David Oswald wrote: I don't know if anyone FROM Pentax reads this list, but if so, I wanted to publicly say thanks for the firmware update for the *ist-DS. I installed Version 2.0 tonight. It was just as easy as the previous upgrade, but with seemingly much more benefit. The greyed-out Fn menu options is a helpful addition indeed. No more wondering why auto-flash doesn't work in 'P' mode (hint, in v2.0 that option is grayed out to reflect the fact that it's not really an option). The AF-C and AF-S mode selection is probably the most important and meaningful addition. This actually adds real-shooting functionality that was essentially missing (or severely crippled) in the earlier firmware versions. And putting Auto-ISO on the Fn menu is where it belongs. The changes to the custom menu are helpful as well. The new artwork for the various pic modes is fluff, but why not I guess. ;) Anyway, thanks for continuing to support us -DS users. Hmmm... my new *ist-DL seems to be up-to-date, as I'd expect. It has these features already - certainly the greyed-out Fn modes and auto ISO in Fn, and AF-C and AF-S. Oh - it's got the sample pics too. Ciao, Peter in Sydney
Re: SMC Pentax-DA FISH-EYE 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 ED [IF]
Lucas Rijnders wrote on 01.12.05 10:33: Has been announced: http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=6813 For a picture: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-DA_Fi sh-Eye_10-17mm_F3.5-4.5_ED_(IF)/reqID--6729/subsection--Digital_35mm_zoom Thanks for info! Interesting part is here: * Optical system for this product was jointly developed and designed with Tokina Co, Ltd. ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
Fred wrote: Oops - a report on the dpreview Pentax SLR forum that the photo count is reset to 0 by the upgrade. Well, here's another report on this - I found that after the new firmware, when I put in a fresh card, it reset the image counter to zero. However, once I put in a half filled card, it started again where it left off. I formatted a new card again and it is still at the proper image number. I am really pleased to know this, hope others will find it helpful. I haven't tried it yet myself - It's late, and I learned long ago to never do serious technical things when more than approximately 2/3 aslee... Fred This worked for me. Not that I really mind about the frame counter. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: SMC Pentax-DA FISH-EYE 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 ED [IF]
On 1/12/05, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed: Has been announced: http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=6813 For a picture: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P- DA_Fish-Eye_10-17mm_F3.5-4.5_ED_(IF)/reqID--6729/subsection-- Digital_35mm_zoom DPR: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0512/05120103pentax_fishizoom.asp Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
O.T.: Paint.NET
G'day All I came across this today thought I'd share for those who might find it interesting: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.html It's a free image editing application built on the Windows .NET framework. It's a bit basic for my tastes, but the important things like layers, levels adjustments, cloning, sharpening etc.are included (no curves that I've found). Funny thing is, a lot of the keyboard shortcuts are the same as those in PS. Cheers, Dave
Re: srbg to Adobe RGB ?
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:00:10PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: srbg to Adobe RGB ? The stock stuff I submit has to be Adobe RGB - am I screwed? or is there a way I can take that tif and translate it into Adobe RGB. I have a sinking feeling that I cant. Edit/ Convert to Profile. The window that opens allows you to covert the image to the new profile. Hopefully, Elements has that. William Robb Sort of. First of all, you have to have turned on full colour management. Once you've done that you'll get an option to select the colour space as part of the Save As dialog box. I have full color management checked. when I get into the save as dialog box, the ICC profile is checked. with the image in question, it shows srbg (with a bunch of numbers after that) except for images from this one cd, it tells me it is Adobe RGB. I have elements 2.0 ann the perplexed
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
I find a raw file has 3-4 stops of latitude to play with. How many you got in those jpegs? Does the camera always save the jpeg the way you want it to? What do you do if it doesn't? You continue shooting jpegs, I'll continue shooting raw. That way we will both be happy grin. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your take the image from the camera to the printer, you will see almost no difference. If you take the image from the camera to the computer doing a little editing along the way you will see a little bit of difference. If you reopen the image and do a bit more editing and save it a couple of times you will see quite a bit of difference. Tom, you're talking about re-saving as jpeg each time. No point. I shoot jpeg all the time. I copy across from card to computer. Those that get worked on are saved as PSDs, period. Then: some are re-sized up to 300ppi for printing (usually not saved) some are re-sized down to 700 pixels along the longest edge and saved as (smaller) PSDs ready to use directly in my website software (Freeway) or some are re-sized down to a suitable size for viewing on a computer screen and turned into 50~100 KB jpegs (using the 'save for web' function in CS) ready for email. Aside from the last option, I don't revisit the jpeg format once the image has left the camera. Freeway creates the jpeg from the ~1MB PSD files and does a good job (aside from stripping the profile out of it - something they are working on, I have been told). BTW, my hair upped and left long before I ate my hat ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
graywolf wrote: Stay away from me, Shel. http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf/meanderings/_images/New-Me.jpg A man who would eat a classic $15 Stetson is dangerous. graywolf $15? What, back in 1874? 1910? An authentic Stetson today is quite pricey! keith
Re: H1 Blad - some gains, some loses
Thanks for a very comprehensive report, Kevin. Very interesting to read what to expect from a MedF digital over the current APS size offerings from Pentax. If the Pentax digital 645 materialises, this is probably what it has to match. At least in terms of noise characteristics, AF performance and interface. Even if the Pentax sensor size will be only 16 Mpix, it will be sufficient for most uses. Do you have any idea about the battery performance of the H1 kit? Using triple-As sound like a short-lived solution...:-) Also, do you have any thoughts about the ruggedness of the H1 system? Would it be possible to expose a H1 to more hostile environments, like shorelines, deserts or wet conditions? Cheers, Jostein Quoting Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I took the H1 for a test drive today and I must say I was thoroughly impressed. From the moment I first held it, the feeling of the camera let the operator know this was not a toy. Looking through the view finder I found it to be a vast improvement from that offered by pentax. The view was light and bright, even under low light it was easy to find an edge to work with. A change from the tradition backs of the blads, no darkslide is needed when changing backs, very convenient when working in the dark. The digital back offers a 22 megapixel 48.9mm x 36.7mm sensor and various backs have various sizes available. The Kodak back is 22 megapixel 36mm x 36mm. This is a welcome change from the APS size as it allows much better cropping. The first big hit comes with CF cards, each image is 96Meg but it does allow saving in PS's DMG format. Also the ability to hook up firewire directly to a computer/laptop is something I believe all pro models should have. If you have anything less than a 2 gig card, you need to start spending. This is a real plus for the APS size images as it affords much cheaper and smaller CF cards. Another plus in the Pentax camp was the use of AA batteries, the H1 uses 3 CR-123 lithium batteries or an extension which carries 8 AAA batteries. There is not a large range of lenses available and I spent my time with the 80mm f2.8 as this is something I am familiar with in low light. There is nowhere near the range of AF lenses available for Pentax. What impressed me instantly was the Auto Focus speed. This was a vast improvement on Pentax, although it did struggle with object coming directly at the camera. The AF in low light was impressive also. In situations where the *istD spent its time hunting, the H1 nailed it and had the image on disk. A great gain was the ISO rating which is available up to 6400. I have use the *istD at 3200 and the image is horribly noisy. The Blad was not totally clean at 6400 but gave a good result, and at 3200 was comparable with the 800 of the Pentax. On using a strobe with the H1 flash was available at all speeds A pointless addition to the H1 is a pop-up flash with a guide number of 12. Although I could see where this may be useful in triggering other flashes... maybe. Flash was available at all speeds. The button to stop down the lense is almost in-accessble for my fingers, I hope this changes at some time. When comparing the controls to the Pentax I find the Pentax more intuitive, perhaps that comes from years of use, but navigating the Blad menu system was not too difficult and with little effort I could access the settings I needed. I guess the losses are in wieght, at about 2kg this is not something you would wear around your neck while hiking, although the design seems to invite that. I found myself constantly comparing with the 6x7 (something I will never part with). Other loses are in FPS at just under 2fps this is not a fast capture. The loss of AA batteries and the added cost of new AAA packs, and the added cost of new and larger CF cards, I would consider 4gig a reasonable size, make for some additional costs to this not cheap camera. The kit I am looking at comes in at $AUD40,000.00 although much of this cost is in the digital back. (film backs are available). The lenses are designed by Hasselblad and made by Fuji, Bokeh is BAD. Pentax glass has it all over these lenses if the 80mm 2.8 is anything to go by. I dont know why they chose Fuji as Contax usses Zeiss and they have a much better offering in lenses. On the plus side, the extra sensor size/mp is a welcome change and the ultra-fast AF is what I really was testing for. I passed this test easily, and could even focus on a fly on a black backdrop without hunting. In all I was impressed with the AF system in low light, which is what I was looking for but at $40k I will take look at the Contax before committing, unless of course Pentax comes up with a 645D with a new or improved AF system. Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
- Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before OS X you could not have given me one. Now that they ahave grown up I would like to have one myself. Someone send me the money. My feelings exactly. Now that it's UNIX, I'd like to have one too. Christian
Re: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
I'm wishing that Pentax would add quick access to metering modes. Possibly a custom item to swap metering mode onto the Fn keys in place of flash mode, which would then be back in the menus. It's unlikely that you'd frequently be using both at the same time, but I'd switch in and out of spot metering all the time while outdoors, for example. It'd also be nice if you could switch to spot metering and manual exposure, look around a scene while watching the exposure read-out change, and see if the values are going to be within the range you want. With old lenses. Does anyone spot meter any more? I started using it with slide film, and you'd think it'd be useful for digital as well. Brian
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
fra: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before OS X you could not have given me one. Now that they ahave grown up I would like to have one myself. Someone send me the money. My feelings exactly. Now that it's UNIX, I'd like to have one too. That was the first reason why I started to consider Mac. After using xWindows and Unix in Sun and Wax work stations in 1987-1989 I was never very impressed by MS Windows. It is nice to have Unix again, although I really don't need the old unix commands, like ls -a and biff, any more... DagT
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01.12.05 13:27: That was the first reason why I started to consider Mac. After using xWindows and Unix in Sun and Wax work stations in 1987-1989 I was never very impressed by MS Windows. It is nice to have Unix again, although I really don't need the old unix commands, like ls -a and biff, any more... GUI of OSX is real pleasure to use, you should be happy with it :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
Shel Belinkoff wrote: The day that someone can show me that one platform is inherently better than another is the day I'll eat my Stetson. Don't you mean drink my Stetson?? Pretty high alcohol content, but tastes awful! Bob
Re: My first PESO
Works for me now. Not sure it was worth the effort. Bob On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Bob Shell wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: http://www.uandimag.com No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good -Adam Who knows the editor/publisher. I get an error message that the URL can't be found. Bob Just checked it, and it's working. -Adam
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
Rob Studdert wrote: On 30 Nov 2005 at 20:24, Toralf Lund wrote: Actually, I don't believe for one moment that digital photos are generally free, either (as I've mentioned before.) I just have too much experience with management of large amounts of data for that. What can be said, is that what you decide to throw away, is free. So like I said (more or less), if I had thought that I would want to delete a lot of images, I would have got a digital camera a long time ago... This argument is moot, who says all files need to be maintained on-line, that;s the only way that cost of storage could become significant. The price of good quality DVD media is less than US$0.50 per disc so each RAW image (using the bloated *ist D files) costs less than US$0.0015, so it costs US$15 to store 10,000 RAW files, hardly bank breaking. There is also the cost of doing the storage job. Moving files around or writing them to DVD takes time - probably more than handling the negs in my experience. Then it is a question of how paranoid you are. Should you trust the DVD media (which does not really have a proven track record)? Do you want redundancy, and how much? At work, we use tape media with quite a bit of overlap, and trust me, this will be a lot more expensive than film. But it's a lot safer, too (I mean, I'd probably trust one negative more than one DVD or tape, but not more than 3 or 4 copies on different tapes stored at different locations) Still, it's the time taken to handle the data that's the main issue, not the media cost. And yes, this increases a lot when you keep data on-line instead of archiving the data directly. Of course, I do some of the same things for a living so it's tempting to estimate the cost of e.g. writing the files to a DVD from what I get paid to do the same job at work. Which is probably more than the film cost of the same images... Another thing is that when people talk about how much cheaper digital is, they seem to be comparing with the price of developing *and printing* from film, which does not seem fair... We've discussed this before, of course... I think digital will *really* make a difference as and when the actual media used in the camera becomes so low-cost and reliable that you won't have to copy the data at all. (But I've probably mentioned that earlier, too.) As has been pointed out by other people on this list earlier, some experience with the more careful planning normally associated with film, is probably good for most photographers... Careful planning or not I usually come away from any photo opportunity with more usable images shooting digital than I did film because I'm no longer constrained by the cost of film. You have probably learned to think about what you are doing, rather than shooting uncritically and hoping some of the pictures will be good like many DSLR users who haven't photographed a lot earlier, seem to be doing. But you don't have to use film to learn that, of course... - T
Re: Back Focus!
Jens I have never had a problem with back focus with my istD, however in low light situations with my D1 it does happen. Camera tends to focus on an object further that what you really want. The finder in the D1 is very good, and i can usually tell if i'm off,then i just refocus. The only time i really see this is during the two indoor horse shows i do, as the lighting is very poor. Dave Hello list What is back focos? Does the camera focus closer to or further away from where it should? Which lenses are especially prone to back focus on a *ist D? Only analog lenses? Please A friend asked me. I don't know, so I ask where I expect people (you guys) to knoe the answer :-) Regards Jens
OT - Verizon online DSL
Sorry to spam the list but I need some help with verizon online DSL service If anyone in the US has this service and has an install CD, can you please contact me off-list? I need one small file off the CD. Thanks! Christian
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Geez, Marnie, I can hardly store the 10K slides I have, and I only keep about 1/4 of what I shoot. When I go digital and shoot raw, hard disk space and DVDs will present the same problem! Here's an innovative storage system for CDs and DVDs. I'm considering getting a couple of these to store my CDs. Not only would it take up less space but it would automate finding the correct CD. http://www.imation.com/products/disc_stakka/index.html Bob
Re: PESO - Blacksmith
On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Bob, I suppose it is not generally a good idea to be somewhat disappointed by a work of maestro ;-)... Yet... Maestro? I think that's the first time anyone has called me that!! I cannot say why, but I have this feeling that the person you depicted is not breaking sweat... He looks at ease. He doing his job, but he is doing it in a very light, relaxed kind of way. I suppose it is my pre-judice speaking, but I'd like to see some tension. After all the work of blacksmith is dangerous and demanding... He was actually working and I was firing off shots as he worked. He was not sweating. The shop is open on one side and it was a cold day. On a warmer day I doubt he would have been wearing a shirt, and that might have been more interesting. But you seize the opportunities that come your way. May be I am off base, but that's what I feel when I look at this photo... Technically, your Nikon definitely did not let you down... This was one of a number of shoots I did with the D70 while I was testing it for a magazine review. I sometimes actually get good shots while reviewing cameras. Bob
Re: PESO - Thistle
Bruce, Nice shot, but something about the brown bud in the middle that I don't like. The bloom on the left is good - especially against the background. The bud on the right is nice, very round feeling. The brown branch in the middle just seems out of place/distracting. Regards, Bob S. On 11/30/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce
Re: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
Brian Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone spot meter any more? I started using it with slide film, and you'd think it'd be useful for digital as well. I did so with a Contarex Super and I'd love to have it readily available with the istDS without having to wade through several menu layers. Ralf ...who OTOH doesn't remember when he last used a flash. -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
Brian Dunn wrote: I'm wishing that Pentax would add quick access to metering modes. Possibly a custom item to swap metering mode onto the Fn keys in place of flash mode, which would then be back in the menus. It's unlikely that you'd frequently be using both at the same time, but I'd switch in and out of spot metering all the time while outdoors, for example. It'd also be nice if you could switch to spot metering and manual exposure, look around a scene while watching the exposure read-out change, and see if the values are going to be within the range you want. With old lenses. Does anyone spot meter any more? I started using it with slide film, and you'd think it'd be useful for digital as well. Brian I almost never take the D out of spot metering mode. The D does have quick access to the modes though (A switch like on the film *ist). -Adam
Re: PESO - Thistle
Bruce, while I don't find any major fault with this it just doesn't do anything for me. A documentary shot of a thistle. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Thistle I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Thanks! (firmware update for -DS)
Peter McIntosh wrote: David Oswald wrote: I don't know if anyone FROM Pentax reads this list, but if so, I wanted to publicly say thanks for the firmware update for the *ist-DS. I installed Version 2.0 tonight. It was just as easy as the previous upgrade, but with seemingly much more benefit. The greyed-out Fn menu options is a helpful addition indeed. No more wondering why auto-flash doesn't work in 'P' mode (hint, in v2.0 that option is grayed out to reflect the fact that it's not really an option). The AF-C and AF-S mode selection is probably the most important and meaningful addition. This actually adds real-shooting functionality that was essentially missing (or severely crippled) in the earlier firmware versions. And putting Auto-ISO on the Fn menu is where it belongs. The changes to the custom menu are helpful as well. The new artwork for the various pic modes is fluff, but why not I guess. ;) Anyway, thanks for continuing to support us -DS users. Hmmm... my new *ist-DL seems to be up-to-date, as I'd expect. It has these features already - certainly the greyed-out Fn modes and auto ISO in Fn, and AF-C and AF-S. Oh - it's got the sample pics too. Ciao, Peter in Sydney Yep, the new DS firmware adds the features that the DS2 and DL had over the DS. -Adam
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
Does the camera always save the jpeg the way you want it to? Tom, please elaborate. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 1, 2005 6:33 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched I find a raw file has 3-4 stops of latitude to play with. How many you got in those jpegs? Does the camera always save the jpeg the way you want it to? What do you do if it doesn't? You continue shooting jpegs, I'll continue shooting raw. That way we will both be happy grin. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your take the image from the camera to the printer, you will see almost no difference. If you take the image from the camera to the computer doing a little editing along the way you will see a little bit of difference. If you reopen the image and do a bit more editing and save it a couple of times you will see quite a bit of difference. Tom, you're talking about re-saving as jpeg each time. No point. I shoot jpeg all the time. I copy across from card to computer. Those that get worked on are saved as PSDs, period. Then: some are re-sized up to 300ppi for printing (usually not saved) some are re-sized down to 700 pixels along the longest edge and saved as (smaller) PSDs ready to use directly in my website software (Freeway) or some are re-sized down to a suitable size for viewing on a computer screen and turned into 50~100 KB jpegs (using the 'save for web' function in CS) ready for email. Aside from the last option, I don't revisit the jpeg format once the image has left the camera. Freeway creates the jpeg from the ~1MB PSD files and does a good job (aside from stripping the profile out of it - something they are working on, I have been told). BTW, my hair upped and left long before I ate my hat ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Thanks! (firmware update for -DS)
I installed Version 2.0 tonight. It was just as easy as the previous upgrade, but with seemingly much more benefit. The greyed-out Fn menu options is a helpful addition indeed. No more wondering why auto-flash doesn't work in 'P' mode (hint, in v2.0 that option is grayed out to reflect the fact that it's not really an option). The AF-C and AF-S mode selection is probably the most important and meaningful addition. This actually adds real-shooting functionality that was essentially missing (or severely crippled) in the earlier firmware versions. And putting Auto-ISO on the Fn menu is where it belongs. The changes to the custom menu are helpful as well. One thing I was hoping for that doesn't seem to be in the release is the linking of aperture and exposure when using K/M lenses. Since K/M lenses are only useful in M mode, why not make Av mode a linked-aperture mode. Set the lens at the aperture you want, put the dial on Av, hit the AE-L button while pointing at something. As it stops down to meter, it holds the *difference* between wide-open and stopped-down. Then, it will adjust the shutter speed if the light changes. If you move the aperture ring (or probably move off Av mode), you need to redo it. It would be more convenient than the AE-L button push *everytime*. Still... the new AE-L feature is something that annoyed me with A lenses (and didn't even know it). Very nice addition. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: PESO - Thistle
On 12/1/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm I like it. Thistles are such a contradiction. Quite lovely to look at, but a real PIA when the stick to one's clothing or skin - all prickly and irritating. They remind me of women LOL g, dr. I think you've captured that contradiction here, especially with the whithering brown bud in between the other ones. As usual, technically brilliant. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED This MF film scanner can be had at a price from Amazon of no more than a decent DSLR ($1800). Too good to be true it seems. Amazon refuse to ship it internationally and B+H wants $200 in shipping costs! Pål
Re: PAW: The Dave Young Quartet, Take 2
Amazing. You sent this message Sunday; it spun around in cyberspace for 4 days and landed in my mailbox today. Your resent message got here first! Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's still pretty fuzzy (except that the bass is kind of sharp g), as I had to shoot handheld at 1/15th, but I like this much better than the first one: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3910767size=lg I when I left my house that morning, I had no idea that I'd be catching this concert that afternoon; I was completely unprepared for shooting low-light that day. I had a fresh roll of HP5+ that I pushed two stops, but I'd have rather shot that with an LX/K f1.2 50mm and a roll of Neopan 1600 pushed to 3200. But, under those difficult conditions, I'm pretty satisfied with this one (much more than the last one that I posted of this concert). Thanks for looking and commenting (should you choose to). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Too good to be true it seems. Amazon refuse to ship it internationally and B+H wants $200 in shipping costs! If the B+ H web page says something is in stock can one assume it really is in stock? Reputedly, this scanner is hard to get hold of... Pål
Re: H1 Blad - some gains, some loses
- Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, do you have any thoughts about the ruggedness of the H1 system? Would it be possible to expose a H1 to more hostile environments, like shorelines, deserts or wet conditions? In my opinion the Hasselblad is strictly a studio item... Pål
Re: PESO - Thistle
Bruce, Wonderful lighting, detail, and control of the background. I think the composition might be stronger with about 20% cropped off the left. Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: Histogram question
AFAIK, they average the channels. The only one showing separate channels is some Fuji. Regards Albano --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been told that a lot of DSLR cameras use only the green channel when calculating the histogram, instead of the full RGB data. Does the Pentax *istDS display a true RGB histogram, or not? It seems that there have been times when the histogram hasn't been entirely accurate for me. I got clipped highlights sometimes when the histogram didn't suggest any such thing. thanks, Glen Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
OT: Are you all smiling ??
In this morning's Globe And Mail (a Canadian newspaper) there was an article called Say Cheese, the focus is on ease for cameras of the future which discussed various new 'features' that will be soon available on cameras. The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portrait were smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking. These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? Fred. This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca
Re: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
Spot metering is readily available on the D, and I use it when the situation warrants it. Paul Brian Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone spot meter any more? I started using it with slide film, and you'd think it'd be useful for digital as well. I did so with a Contarex Super and I'd love to have it readily available with the istDS without having to wade through several menu layers. Ralf ...who OTOH doesn't remember when he last used a flash. -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: PESO - More Mom Hands
In a message dated 11/30/2005 7:37:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thumb doesn't bother me at all. I think it's a very strong image, and more than worthy to be in this series. Terrific work, very moving. cheers, frank == Thanks, frank. Marnie vbg
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
Now that looks interesting, and it's not even very expensive. Rick --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Geez, Marnie, I can hardly store the 10K slides I have, and I only keep about 1/4 of what I shoot. When I go digital and shoot raw, hard disk space and DVDs will present the same problem! Here's an innovative storage system for CDs and DVDs. I'm considering getting a couple of these to store my CDs. Not only would it take up less space but it would automate finding the correct CD. http://www.imation.com/products/disc_stakka/index.html Bob __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: srbg to Adobe RGB ?
In a message dated 12/1/2005 6:37:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have full color management checked. when I get into the save as dialog box, the ICC profile is checked. with the image in question, it shows srbg (with a bunch of numbers after that) except for images from this one cd, it tells me it is Adobe RGB. I have elements 2.0 ann the perplexed == The srbg and numbers is a profile for your specific monitor. Probably a default one if you have never run Adobe Gamma. Marnie
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
Op Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:47:09 +0100 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portraitwere smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking.These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? Beauty detector. The AF-assist light will shine in ugly people's eyes until they are so annoyed they leave the frame. -- Regards, Lucas (Off buying sunglasses)
Re: Sensor size vs megapieixels and photo quality
'Vague' is my only reality. Jack --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep! As long as you realize that the choice is vague (anti-nitpicker statement). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jack Davis wrote: Got it..the smaller the sensor the greater the density the smaller the pixel the noisier the image. The crossing point is that place where you make a noise/image choice. Jack --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the smaller the pixel the more noise. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jack Davis wrote: Maybe it's a question of a pixel density/noise crossing point? The more pixels the more noise? Jack? --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you asking at what point the signal-to-noise ratio becomes more importatant than pixel count? Sounds like a pretty simple question, but it is not. A small sensor 2mp camera is adequate for web use. An astronomer wants a camera that is not going to generate a noise pixel when the point sources he is photographing may only be one pixel wide (I believe they work around that by comparing multiple images taken a few minutes apart. The stars seem to move the noise usually doesn't). I think that right now in consumer grade sensors a 6mp APS size sensor is about optimum which may explain why the makers don't seem to be in any great hurry to increase megapixel counts on the semipro cameras. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bill Owens wrote: Where is the crossover point where sensor size overtakes the number of megapixels in regards to final print quality. Bill __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED This MF film scanner can be had at a price from Amazon of no more than a decent DSLR ($1800). Too good to be true it seems. Amazon refuse to ship it internationally and B+H wants $200 in shipping costs! Pål Having seen one, I can understand the shipping costs. I've got computers smaller than this scanner, it's HUGE. -Adam
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01.12.05 13:27: That was the first reason why I started to consider Mac. After using xWindows and Unix in Sun and Wax work stations in 1987-1989 I was never very impressed by MS Windows. It is nice to have Unix again, although I really don't need the old unix commands, like ls -a and biff, any more... GUI of OSX is real pleasure to use, you should be happy with it :-) Man, I worked on OSX for a year at the photo store and came to despise it... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
My feeling is that if any of the many back of the photo magazine photo (etc) houses accurately represents their stock, it would be BH. Now someone can relate their BH horror story. I'm currently going through one with Adorama. Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Too good to be true it seems. Amazon refuse to ship it internationally and B+H wants $200 in shipping costs! If the B+ H web page says something is in stock can one assume it really is in stock? Reputedly, this scanner is hard to get hold of... Pål __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Histogram question
At 12:11 AM 12/1/2005, David Mann wrote: On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I just did a QD test using my *ist D and the camera histogram responds similarly to green and red. However what I didn't check is how the histogram is calculated, possibly if one channel is clipped and the others are low the aggregate RGB histogram will display as unclipped? The driver for my scanner tends to round low values to zero when displaying so I'm finding it very easy to blow out the highlights if I'm not careful. I think there is a good chance that the Pentax either rounds some of the low values to zero or perhaps doesn't combine three channels before providing the histogram results. I've noticed that sometimes the histogram will appear to indicate that the brightest value captured is a mid-tone, maybe 128 out of 256. However, if I adjust the white point lower in my editing software to correct the overly dark scale, small highlight areas will sometimes begin to clip, well before I have gotten anywhere near what the histogram says is the brightest value recorded. Sometimes, the clipping only occurs in one or two channels, which makes the highlight area look discolored. There might still be detail in the highlight from the one or two channels that didn't clip, but it still doesn't look good because of the color shift. In general, the histogram is a big help in setting exposure and contrast settings on the camera, but there are still some cases where I think it gives misleading information. Some sort of clipping indicator would be a nice addition to the camera's preview features, or possibly provide a numerical readout of the very brightest and darkest pixels captured in the image, as measured on a 0-255 scale. take care, Glen
RE: PESO - Thistle
As always from you; technically it is near perfect. Besides this, it is kind of boring. Sorry for my bluntness ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1. desember 2005 06:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Thistle I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce
Re: PESO - Thistle
In a message dated 12/1/2005 5:22:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11/30/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce == I like it. Although I think I'd like it better without the top one being chopped off. Also,I think you do better when you see a deeper anthropomorphic philosophical meaning in nature -- from the universal to the macro -- family relationship or politics or something. ;-) Marnie
Re: I'm back
A transplant. Doe === Brain surgery? On 11/30/05, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back, Bill. Ask your doctor is he can do anything for Cotty. Joe
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
What next ??? An intent program in which the camera will only fire when it can captures your intent - beauty, sadness, emotion etc. This sholud eliminate a lot of mis-taken images VBG Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Are you all smiling ?? In this morning's Globe And Mail (a Canadian newspaper) there was an article called Say Cheese, the focus is on ease for cameras of the future which discussed various new 'features' that will be soon available on cameras. The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portrait were smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking. These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? Fred. This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
When I bought my Nikon Super Coolscan IV several years ago, I found several places with cheaper (than B+H) prices, but when I went to order, B+H was the only place to have them in stock. B+H is my most trusted source of photographic equip. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED My feeling is that if any of the many back of the photo magazine photo (etc) houses accurately represents their stock, it would be BH. Now someone can relate their BH horror story. I'm currently going through one with Adorama. Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Too good to be true it seems. Amazon refuse to ship it internationally and B+H wants $200 in shipping costs! If the B+ H web page says something is in stock can one assume it really is in stock? Reputedly, this scanner is hard to get hold of... Pål __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Digital file numbering?
In a message dated 11/28/2005 12:57:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any suggestions? Ralf === I keep the same numbers the camera attaches, but rename the directories I have copied cards to so they are significant to me. I've never kept track by date, but am debating pulling some EXIF data out and doing something with it. So basically I have minimal organization. At one point I was creating contact sheets for all my slides, but haven't finished yet. I only have a flat bed scanner that can do only four slides at once, so it took time and I didn't get that far. (I already did it for all my prints -- negative film shots, but that was easy because they were often printed up by the lab with an index card of shots.) I am now debating creating contact sheets for all my digital shots. I file the contact sheets in a notebook. One notebook does me fine for now. I used regular typing paper rather than photo paper, partially to save money, and because I just want a visual record of what I have. For that it wasn't necessary for that to have great thumbnails on photo paper, just adequate thumbnails to remind me of what I have. I have my slides stored by box and those are numbered. Starting from the first roll of slides I shot until the last. Basically I have done the same thing with all my negative film shots as well. Though I am not sure I numbered them. But they are organized chronologically in an acid free archival box. A visual record is easier for me to mentally process than numbers or any kind of fancy databasing system using numbers or dates. For digital contact sheets I would organize them by directory rather than roll, but for me directories amount to the same thing. Each directory equals one uploaded card, regardless of how full I loaded the card. And I would order the digital contact sheets chronologically. It would be nice to pull out the EXIF data and put the ISO, f-stop and shutter speed below each thumbnail. Some people recommended EXIF readers a while back. Right now I can't pull that up from my PDML archives. I am debating using Irfanview for doing the contact sheets since it can use Canon RAW to make thumbnails. But Elements makes nice contact sheets. So visual recording is easier for me. But I haven't shot as much as many people have either. Anyway, once I have some organization on paper, organizing the real images is a snap. And follows my paper organization. Marnie
Re: OT: Weegee Speaks
Powell Hargrave wrote: Radio talk show host Mary Margaret McBride interviewed Weegee http://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/weegee/speaks.html Great stuff! Would be if it opened! Is it browser-specific? keith
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before OS X you could not have given me one. Now that they ahave grown up I would like to have one myself. Someone send me the money. My feelings exactly. Now that it's UNIX, I'd like to have one too. That was the first reason why I started to consider Mac. After using xWindows and Unix in Sun and Wax work stations in 1987-1989 I was never very impressed by MS Windows. It is nice to have Unix again, although I really don't need the old unix commands, like ls -a and biff, any more... DagT Right. Because the Mac, being the Mac, buries the command structure the user shouldn't have to get involved with on an every day basis. They DO provide for opening a command line, just like Sun OS did, so that you MAY use UNIX commands if you want to, but most of it is GUI interface (IOW not text) as always. I used a Sun workstation for a while (maybe 1990?) while doing CAD work. Nice, but the Mac is far less complicated for the operator. Deep down the Mac is pretty powerful, as an interface, and it's easy to understand (intuitive) and use. keith whaley
Re: Sigma 28-105/2.8-4
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Be aware that the difference in field of view between 90 and 105mm is quite small. See http://homepage.mac.com/godders/2zmFoVcomp.jpg for comparison. The real advantages of the 24-90 are much more field of view at the wide and and better performance when wide open at the tele end. Thanks, Godfrey. Can you help me understand your diagram? Is the small, green rectangle the FOV at (more or less) 90? Here is an exercise I would like to solve: Assuming a lens at 90mm and another at 105mm, how much closer to the subject should one go so as to get a photograph with the same dimensions on the recording medium. Cluelessly yours, Kostas
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
In a message dated 12/1/2005 8:04:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What next ??? Blinkies for extraneous elements: when a telephone pole is growing out of Aunt Jane's head, a wastepaper basket has crept into the scene, power lines in a landscape shot, etc. Blink, blink, blink, blink, BLINK! Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
Hi! In this morning's Globe And Mail (a Canadian newspaper) there was an article called Say Cheese, the focus is on ease for cameras of the future which discussed various new 'features' that will be soon available on cameras. The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portrait were smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking. These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? Fred, it is undubitably good that you did not include any links OTOH, I must say I laffed real hard... Imagine in 10 years - camera such as *istD would pack up a power of modern super comp... Then us programmers can go as wild as we can... -- Boris
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] My feeling is that if any of the many back of the photo magazine photo (etc) houses accurately represents their stock, it would be BH. Now someone can relate their BH horror story. I'm currently going through one with Adorama. They certainly are reputable and I have dealt with them before but that was over 10 years ago. Does anyone know if they still insist that you fax a copy of your credit card to them before they accept the order? It is an incredible hassle as I have neither a copy machine or a fax at hand. I would have preferred to shop at Amazon though... Pål
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
That is kind of cool. It's just too bad that it doesn't include a built-in DVD/CD reader. That way, your discs would never have to leave the machine. Of course, you can do the same sort of computer database indexing and tracking of files without this fancy machine. The biggest difference, is you have to retrieve the disc yourself from its storage area. A good CD storage album can hold 100 or 200 discs and do almost the same job as this machine, for a fraction of the cost. Just be sure to scan all your discs with indexing software and store them in indexed physical locations--and be sure to always put them back in the designated and numbered slot they belong in. ;) take care, Glen At 09:56 AM 12/1/2005, Rick Womer wrote: Now that looks interesting, and it's not even very expensive. Rick --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Geez, Marnie, I can hardly store the 10K slides I have, and I only keep about 1/4 of what I shoot. When I go digital and shoot raw, hard disk space and DVDs will present the same problem! Here's an innovative storage system for CDs and DVDs. I'm considering getting a couple of these to store my CDs. Not only would it take up less space but it would automate finding the correct CD. http://www.imation.com/products/disc_stakka/index.html Bob __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
There is doubtless a market of the mindless recorder of things/events who have no thoughts of skill or art..only convenience. If the record is false or contrived..hey! all the better. I'm not sure I want to know what's next. Jack --- Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:47:09 +0100 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portraitwere smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking.These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? Beauty detector. The AF-assist light will shine in ugly people's eyes until they are so annoyed they leave the frame. -- Regards, Lucas (Off buying sunglasses) __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
Blinkies for extraneous elements Great idea, Some one should keep a list and send to Pentax to keep them abreast of the latest wants from photogs. V B G Speaking of lists to Pentax, what ever happened to the list of wants that was generated several weeks ago and were going to be forwarded to Pentax Japan? Did I miss something regarding this list. Someone was going to the trouble of compiling. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Are you all smiling ?? In a message dated 12/1/2005 8:04:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What next ??? Blinkies for extraneous elements: when a telephone pole is growing out of Aunt Jane's head, a wastepaper basket has crept into the scene, power lines in a landscape shot, etc. Blink, blink, blink, blink, BLINK! Marnie aka Doe :-) PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
On 12/1/05, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They certainly are reputable and I have dealt with them before but that was over 10 years ago. Does anyone know if they still insist that you fax a copy of your credit card to them before they accept the order? It is an incredible hassle as I have neither a copy machine or a fax at hand. I would have preferred to shop at Amazon though... I have not had to do that in 4 years or so of dealing w/ BH. Then again, my credit card(s) have US billing addresses, and I'm having them shipped to the US. -Mat
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
I just ordered from B+H last week (I'm in the US of A) and they took my cc info over the phone. Of course I order from them several times a year they seem to have me on file. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] My feeling is that if any of the many back of the photo magazine photo (etc) houses accurately represents their stock, it would be BH. Now someone can relate their BH horror story. I'm currently going through one with Adorama. They certainly are reputable and I have dealt with them before but that was over 10 years ago. Does anyone know if they still insist that you fax a copy of your credit card to them before they accept the order? It is an incredible hassle as I have neither a copy machine or a fax at hand. I would have preferred to shop at Amazon though... Pål PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: H1 Blad - some gains, some loses
Since you can change backs on the H1 you can always get the Kodak 16mp MP back for it. Jostein wrote: Thanks for a very comprehensive report, Kevin. Very interesting to read what to expect from a MedF digital over the current APS size offerings from Pentax. If the Pentax digital 645 materialises, this is probably what it has to match. At least in terms of noise characteristics, AF performance and interface. Even if the Pentax sensor size will be only 16 Mpix, it will be sufficient for most uses. Do you have any idea about the battery performance of the H1 kit? Using triple-As sound like a short-lived solution...:-) Also, do you have any thoughts about the ruggedness of the H1 system? Would it be possible to expose a H1 to more hostile environments, like shorelines, deserts or wet conditions? Cheers, Jostein Quoting Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I took the H1 for a test drive today and I must say I was thoroughly impressed. From the moment I first held it, the feeling of the camera let the operator know this was not a toy. Looking through the view finder I found it to be a vast improvement from that offered by pentax. The view was light and bright, even under low light it was easy to find an edge to work with. A change from the tradition backs of the blads, no darkslide is needed when changing backs, very convenient when working in the dark. The digital back offers a 22 megapixel 48.9mm x 36.7mm sensor and various backs have various sizes available. The Kodak back is 22 megapixel 36mm x 36mm. This is a welcome change from the APS size as it allows much better cropping. The first big hit comes with CF cards, each image is 96Meg but it does allow saving in PS's DMG format. Also the ability to hook up firewire directly to a computer/laptop is something I believe all pro models should have. If you have anything less than a 2 gig card, you need to start spending. This is a real plus for the APS size images as it affords much cheaper and smaller CF cards. Another plus in the Pentax camp was the use of AA batteries, the H1 uses 3 CR-123 lithium batteries or an extension which carries 8 AAA batteries. There is not a large range of lenses available and I spent my time with the 80mm f2.8 as this is something I am familiar with in low light. There is nowhere near the range of AF lenses available for Pentax. What impressed me instantly was the Auto Focus speed. This was a vast improvement on Pentax, although it did struggle with object coming directly at the camera. The AF in low light was impressive also. In situations where the *istD spent its time hunting, the H1 nailed it and had the image on disk. A great gain was the ISO rating which is available up to 6400. I have use the *istD at 3200 and the image is horribly noisy. The Blad was not totally clean at 6400 but gave a good result, and at 3200 was comparable with the 800 of the Pentax. On using a strobe with the H1 flash was available at all speeds A pointless addition to the H1 is a pop-up flash with a guide number of 12. Although I could see where this may be useful in triggering other flashes... maybe. Flash was available at all speeds. The button to stop down the lense is almost in-accessble for my fingers, I hope this changes at some time. When comparing the controls to the Pentax I find the Pentax more intuitive, perhaps that comes from years of use, but navigating the Blad menu system was not too difficult and with little effort I could access the settings I needed. I guess the losses are in wieght, at about 2kg this is not something you would wear around your neck while hiking, although the design seems to invite that. I found myself constantly comparing with the 6x7 (something I will never part with). Other loses are in FPS at just under 2fps this is not a fast capture. The loss of AA batteries and the added cost of new AAA packs, and the added cost of new and larger CF cards, I would consider 4gig a reasonable size, make for some additional costs to this not cheap camera. The kit I am looking at comes in at $AUD40,000.00 although much of this cost is in the digital back. (film backs are available). The lenses are designed by Hasselblad and made by Fuji, Bokeh is BAD. Pentax glass has it all over these lenses if the 80mm 2.8 is anything to go by. I dont know why they chose Fuji as Contax usses Zeiss and they have a much better offering in lenses. On the plus side, the extra sensor size/mp is a welcome change and the ultra-fast AF is what I really was testing for. I passed this test easily, and could even focus on a fly on a black backdrop without hunting. In all I was impressed with the AF system in low light, which is what I was looking for but at $40k I will take look at the Contax before committing, unless of course Pentax comes up with a 645D with a new or improved AF system. Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this morning's Globe And Mail (a Canadian newspaper) there was an article called Say Cheese, the focus is on ease for cameras of the future which discussed various new 'features' that will be soon available on cameras. The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portrait were smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking. These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? One that comes pre-loaded with family pictures or course! You'll be able to choose age, race and general attractiveness of your family in advance! Order one now! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
In a message dated 12/1/2005 8:26:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's an innovative storage system for CDs and DVDs. I'm considering getting a couple of these to store my CDs. Not only would it take up less space but it would automate finding the correct CD. http://www.imation.com/products/disc_stakka/index.html Bob Been reading reviews. It's actually pretty cool. I don't have enough discs now to matter. But if I ever do... Thanks for the link. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
Frustrated users tossing cameras that refuse to take pictures at walls. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this morning's Globe And Mail (a Canadian newspaper) there was an article called Say Cheese, the focus is on ease for cameras of the future which discussed various new 'features' that will be soon available on cameras. The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portrait were smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking. These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? Fred. This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Histogram question
Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, they average the channels. The only one showing separate channels is some Fuji. The Canon 1D-II and 1Ds-II will display separate R, G and B histograms. So will the Sigma SD10, if you're interested! ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Digital file numbering?
Given the number of good ideas here, it's probably not a bad place to mention photo organization software. Google offers Picasa at www.picasa.com. This is free software and is a good inexpensive way to see what this type of software can do to help you out. My current organizer is imatch available at www.photools.com. It's $60 (US) and is very powerful, but a bit awkward to learn. Adobe has chimed in with an organizer bundled with Photoshop Elements v3 and v4. There is a lot of function resulting from the synergy resulting from the combination with Elements. The list price is about $100 but you can usually find it discounted around $70 or less. There are 30 day free trials available for download for each of the last two. See you later, gs
Re: PESO - Thistle
Thanks for the comments, Bob. Getting other opinions on this one is very helpful. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 5:20:48 AM, you wrote: BS Bruce, BS Nice shot, but something about the brown bud in the middle that I don't like. BS The bloom on the left is good - especially against the background. BS The bud on the right is nice, very round feeling. BS The brown branch in the middle just seems out of place/distracting. BS Regards, Bob S. BS On 11/30/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce
Re: srbg to Adobe RGB ?
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 05:42:53AM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote: John Francis wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:00:10PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: srbg to Adobe RGB ? The stock stuff I submit has to be Adobe RGB - am I screwed? or is there a way I can take that tif and translate it into Adobe RGB. I have a sinking feeling that I cant. Edit/ Convert to Profile. The window that opens allows you to covert the image to the new profile. Hopefully, Elements has that. William Robb Sort of. First of all, you have to have turned on full colour management. Once you've done that you'll get an option to select the colour space as part of the Save As dialog box. I have full color management checked. when I get into the save as dialog box, the ICC profile is checked. with the image in question, it shows srbg (with a bunch of numbers after that) except for images from this one cd, it tells me it is Adobe RGB. I have elements 2.0 Ah. I have 3.0 (mainly for the RAW converter)
Re: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
*ist DS firmware 2.00 is out - http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20050415e.html Well, I performed the update (1.02 to 2.00), and it worked like a charm. I think it took just a little longer than the upgrade from 1.00 to 1.02. Of course, all of the menu and Fn settings are (not surprisingly, of course) reset back to all of the defaults settings. Oh well... Fred
Re: PESO - Thistle
Kenneth, I do appreciate your thoughts and candor. That is what is so nice about the list - you can get valuable feedback. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 5:36:01 AM, you wrote: KW Bruce, while I don't find any major fault with this it just KW doesn't do anything for me. A documentary shot of a thistle. KW Kenneth Waller KW -Original Message- KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW Subject: PESO - Thistle KW I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm KW wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is KW something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. KW Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld KW ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 KW Converted from Raw using Capture One LE KW http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm
Re: PESO - Thistle
Frank, I do appreciate you articulating what you like about this shot. I have been trying to determine exactly what holds my attention with this one. When I am working on images, I have a directory of images that have potential. This one has sat in there for awhile but I wasn't ready to toss it. Your comments may help me figure out why I like it. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 6:01:55 AM, you wrote: ft I like it. ft Thistles are such a contradiction. Quite lovely to look at, but a ft real PIA when the stick to one's clothing or skin - all prickly and ft irritating. They remind me of women LOL g, dr. ft I think you've captured that contradiction here, especially with the ft whithering brown bud in between the other ones. ft As usual, technically brilliant. ft thanks, ft frank ft -- ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson ft On 12/1/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm
Re: Why I Haven't Yet Switched
On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Glen wrote: That is kind of cool. It's just too bad that it doesn't include a built-in DVD/CD reader. That way, your discs would never have to leave the machine. Machines with built-in players do exist, but they cost a lot. This one costs about $ 120. It automatically retrieves the disk you want. I think I will get one and check it out. Bob
Re: Sigma 28-105/2.8-4
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:15:49PM +, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Be aware that the difference in field of view between 90 and 105mm is quite small. See http://homepage.mac.com/godders/2zmFoVcomp.jpg for comparison. The real advantages of the 24-90 are much more field of view at the wide and and better performance when wide open at the tele end. Thanks, Godfrey. Can you help me understand your diagram? Is the small, green rectangle the FOV at (more or less) 90? Here is an exercise I would like to solve: Assuming a lens at 90mm and another at 105mm, how much closer to the subject should one go so as to get a photograph with the same dimensions on the recording medium. Well, that's easy. You should move forward until you're 90/105 of the distance you started from.
Re: PESO - Thistle
Thanks Rick. I'll take a look at your cropping suggestion. Perhaps post it if I like it. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 6:47:49 AM, you wrote: RW Bruce, RW Wonderful lighting, detail, and control of the RW background. I think the composition might be stronger RW with about 20% cropped off the left. RW Rick RW --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce RW __ RW Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! RW http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: *ist DS Firmware 2.00
Also see - http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20050415e-1.html This might be worth printing and (after folding in half) sticking into the DS manual. It's sort of in English (just like the manual - g) - seriously, it has a concise description of each of the new functions, along with some specimen menu photos. [Perhaps when Pentax USA (you know, the Petnax people), etc., gets around to making the DS 2.00 update available on its own web site, it might clean up the descriptions a bit - or, maybe not - g.] Of course, what may be missing from the page at the above URL (and also, naturally, missing from the original manual) are any subtle changes to some of the original setting options that might be caused by the 2.00 changes... Fred
Re: PESO - Thistle
Hello Tim, Dont' worry about being blunt. The photo was posted to get opinions - I am glad that you would tell me how you feel. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 7:25:40 AM, you wrote: TØ As always from you; technically it is near perfect. TØ Besides this, it is kind of boring. Sorry for my bluntness ;-) TØ Tim TØ Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) TØ Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds TØ (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1. desember 2005 06:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Thistle I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce
Re: Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED
No..they don't require faxing your credit card. At least, not as of a couple months back. Javck --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] My feeling is that if any of the many back of the photo magazine photo (etc) houses accurately represents their stock, it would be BH. Now someone can relate their BH horror story. I'm currently going through one with Adorama. They certainly are reputable and I have dealt with them before but that was over 10 years ago. Does anyone know if they still insist that you fax a copy of your credit card to them before they accept the order? It is an incredible hassle as I have neither a copy machine or a fax at hand. I would have preferred to shop at Amazon though... Pål __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Thistle
Marnie, you are correct that my shots are better when I see a deeper meaning in them. Perhaps that is what is holding me back on this one. Thanks for commenting. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 7:27:44 AM, you wrote: Eac == Eac I like it. Although I think I'd like it better without the top one being Eac chopped off. Eac Also,I think you do better when you see a deeper anthropomorphic Eac philosophical meaning in nature -- from the universal to Eac the macro -- family relationship Eac or politics or something. ;-) Eac Marnie Eac In a message dated 12/1/2005 5:22:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, Eac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eac On 11/30/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce
Re: Histogram question
I got it from here: One issue that has come up is that with the possible exception of the Fuji S2 Pro all other current DSLRs only display overall luminosity histograms and not individual channel brightness. This means that it's possible to blow out one of the R G or B channels without realizing it. Here's what Thomas Knoll has to say on the matter... Full article here: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml Regards Albano --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, they average the channels. The only one showing separate channels is some Fuji. The Canon 1D-II and 1Ds-II will display separate R, G and B histograms. So will the Sigma SD10, if you're interested! ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: H1 Blad - some gains, some loses
This one time, at band camp, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any idea about the battery performance of the H1 kit? Using triple-As sound like a short-lived solution...:-) No, I have no insight to the battery choices of Hasselblad Also, do you have any thoughts about the ruggedness of the H1 system? Would it be possible to expose a H1 to more hostile environments, like shorelines, deserts or wet conditions? Like the its fore-fathers this is a rugged metal body, although it is covered with some sort of plastic grey/black to give it a look of a modern DSLR. I would be loathe to take this to the beach or a dusty environment as it does not seem to be well sealed like a 35mm and it would be too easy for particles to get between the back and the body. Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: PESO - Thistle
Any anthropomorphic or philosophical meaning associated with a photo has no bearing whatsoever on the quality, good or bad of the shot. If it means somehow that you try harder, put more effort into, or are excelling because it's your passion, when you see a potential shot with some meaning, before you release the shutter, then I can understand it. To many times around here I see, IMO, lousy shots that receive praise because they 'hold some deeper meaning', when in reality they are just lousy shots. I like thistles and this shot holds some appeal. I suspect I feel the same way about it as you do Bruce. The thistle flower on the left is beautiful, but it seems there are too many other distractions that make the entirety somehow 'disharmonious'. In the spirit of ruthless self-critique, which I attempt to exercise on my self, I would edit this one out. Next summer? Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Thistle Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:41:18 -0800 Marnie, you are correct that my shots are better when I see a deeper meaning in them. Perhaps that is what is holding me back on this one. Thanks for commenting. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 7:27:44 AM, you wrote: Eac == Eac I like it. Although I think I'd like it better without the top one being Eac chopped off. Eac Also,I think you do better when you see a deeper anthropomorphic Eac philosophical meaning in nature -- from the universal to Eac the macro -- family relationship Eac or politics or something. ;-) Eac Marnie Eac In a message dated 12/1/2005 5:22:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, Eac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eac On 11/30/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce
Re: Digital file numbering?
In a message dated 12/1/2005 9:16:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Google offers Picasa at www.picasa.com. This is free software and is a good inexpensive way to see what this type of software can do to help you out. === I just downloaded that one (before you mentioned it :-)) and am checking it out. Looks interesting. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - Thistle
I like this. I'ts an attractive picutre. I'd like it a lot more with the out-of-focus leaf and bloom in the right background removed. It would be a relatively easy painting job. Paul Frank, I do appreciate you articulating what you like about this shot. I have been trying to determine exactly what holds my attention with this one. When I am working on images, I have a directory of images that have potential. This one has sat in there for awhile but I wasn't ready to toss it. Your comments may help me figure out why I like it. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 6:01:55 AM, you wrote: ft I like it. ft Thistles are such a contradiction. Quite lovely to look at, but a ft real PIA when the stick to one's clothing or skin - all prickly and ft irritating. They remind me of women LOL g, dr. ft I think you've captured that contradiction here, especially with the ft whithering brown bud in between the other ones. ft As usual, technically brilliant. ft thanks, ft frank ft -- ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson ft On 12/1/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm
Re: Digital file numbering?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/1/2005 9:16:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Google offers Picasa at www.picasa.com. This is free software and is a good inexpensive way to see what this type of software can do to help you out. === I just downloaded that one (before you mentioned it :-)) and am checking it out. Looks interesting. Marnie aka Doe Look before you download! This product is available for Windows and IE only... keith whaley
Re: PESO - Blacksmith
Bob, post the link again It never came into my mailbox - I presume the blacksmith isn't naked :) ann p.s. I was intrigued by your discussion of it with boris
Re: PESO - Thistle
Tom, a well articulated commentary and worthy of much thought. I suspect that deeper meanings allow us to relate to something that we otherwise, might not relate to. And, as you say, it probably encourages more effort to make the deeper meaning come out. Your assessment is very good and mirrors how I feel about it. It is always good to get other opinions. I have to chuckle many times about how my wife and I perceive images differently. Many that she likes, I don't and vice versa. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 10:22:11 AM, you wrote: TC Any anthropomorphic or philosophical meaning associated with a photo has no TC bearing whatsoever on the quality, good or bad of the shot. TC If it means somehow that you try harder, put more effort into, or are TC excelling because it's your passion, when you see a potential shot with some TC meaning, before you release the shutter, then I can understand it. TC To many times around here I see, IMO, lousy shots that receive praise TC because they 'hold some deeper meaning', when in reality they are just lousy TC shots. TC I like thistles and this shot holds some appeal. I suspect I feel the same TC way about it as you do Bruce. The thistle flower on the left is beautiful, TC but it seems there are too many other distractions that make the entirety TC somehow 'disharmonious'. In the spirit of ruthless self-critique, which I TC attempt to exercise on my self, I would edit this one out. TC Next summer? TC Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Thistle Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:41:18 -0800 Marnie, you are correct that my shots are better when I see a deeper meaning in them. Perhaps that is what is holding me back on this one. Thanks for commenting. -- Bruce Thursday, December 1, 2005, 7:27:44 AM, you wrote: Eac == Eac I like it. Although I think I'd like it better without the top one being Eac chopped off. Eac Also,I think you do better when you see a deeper anthropomorphic Eac philosophical meaning in nature -- from the universal to Eac the macro -- family relationship Eac or politics or something. ;-) Eac Marnie Eac In a message dated 12/1/2005 5:22:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, Eac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eac On 11/30/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this shot sitting in the electronic pile for awhile. I'm wondering what you all think of it. I am undecided, but there is something that holds my interest. Thoughts appreciated. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191.htm -- Bruce
Re: OT: Are you all smiling ??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this morning's Globe And Mail (a Canadian newspaper) there was an article called Say Cheese, the focus is on ease for cameras of the future which discussed various new 'features' that will be soon available on cameras. The one that caught my attention was At a recent exhibition in New York, Canon showed cameras that spot human faces and analyze their expressions. One prototype waited until all subjects in a portrait were smiling before taking the picture. Another detected blinking. These won't be commerical products for at least a year What next ??? Fred. geez - That's REALLY pathetic. ann This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca
Re: H1 Blad - some gains, some loses
Hi, Thanks for the review Kevin. I'm sick of such a camrea myself having had an old 2000FC with assorted lenses for years together with my Pentax equipment. The camera with digital back got a very good review in the Swedish magazine FOTO where they concluded that it offered a superior image in terms of resolution and noise compared to the top of the notch Canon. The oldrule still is valid - the bigger the better- However with one exception - that is the lack of antialiasing filter whichmight give moire at times. This is due t the fact that the lenses have a higher resolution than the lenses and thus cannot sample all the details (accurately) that the lenses put on the sensor. An old known problem in signal analysis. However, they concluded that this was not really a major problem and that the advantages outweighed the disadvantages. I would be curious to hear your experience on this with highly detailed subjects further on. Yes its a bit strange they deserted Zeiss. It could have been that at a time Zeiss thought that they could not produce high quality AF optics - again accroding to FOTO (Swedish magazine if I remeber correctly). Actually some of the most recent Blad optics for their old line was not made by Zeiss either. It turned out that they had started some devlopment - design of optics - with modern software - the could give them the optical quality they were looking for. The magazine FOTO claimed in on sentence - that the new lenses for H1/H2 were as good or maybe even better than the old. If the camera is as rugged as the old Hasselbads then one should be able to take them anywhere - but Josteins might be right - maybe dust could be a problem? With old Blads this is not any problem. I've used mine in environments rangin from -40C up to +30C from snow to beach - however one needs to be careful particularly at the beach. One always should. As for backpacking - I do it with some 5 kilos of Blad eequipment and add som Pentax gear to that. It works but is of course not as fast as moving around with a much smaller 35mm/APSC-digi stuff. Cheers Ronald Jostein Thu, 01 Dec 2005 04:00:14 -0800 Thanks for a very comprehensive report, Kevin. Very interesting to read what to expect from a MedF digital over the current APS size offerings from Pentax. If the Pentax digital 645 materialises, this is probably what it has to match. At least in terms of noise characteristics, AF performance and interface. Even if the Pentax sensor size will be only 16 Mpix, it will be sufficient for most uses. Do you have any idea about the battery performance of the H1 kit? Using triple-As sound like a short-lived solution...:-) Also, do you have any thoughts about the ruggedness of the H1 system? Would it be possible to expose a H1 to more hostile environments, like shorelines, deserts or wet conditions? Cheers, Jostein Quoting Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I took the H1 for a test drive today and I must say I was thoroughly impressed. From the moment I first held it, the feeling of the camera let the operator know this was not a toy. Looking through the view finder I found it to be a vast improvement from that offered by pentax. The view was light and bright, even under low light it was easy to find an edge to work with. A change from the tradition backs of the blads, no darkslide is needed when changing backs, very convenient when working in the dark. The digital back offers a 22 megapixel 48.9mm x 36.7mm sensor and various backs have various sizes available. The Kodak back is 22 megapixel 36mm x 36mm. This is a welcome change from the APS size as it allows much better cropping. The first big hit comes with CF cards, each image is 96Meg but it does allow saving in PS's DMG format. Also the ability to hook up firewire directly to a computer/laptop is something I believe all pro models should have. If you have anything less than a 2 gig card, you need to start spending. This is a real plus for the APS size images as it affords much cheaper and smaller CF cards. Another plus in the Pentax camp was the use of AA batteries, the H1 uses 3 CR-123 lithium batteries or an extension which carries 8 AAA batteries. There is not a large range of lenses available and I spent my time with the 80mm f2.8 as this is something I am familiar with in low light. There is nowhere near the range of AF lenses available for Pentax. What impressed me instantly was the Auto Focus speed. This was a vast improvement on Pentax, although it did struggle with object coming directly at the camera. The AF in low light was impressive also. In situations where the *istD spent its time hunting, the H1 nailed it and had the image on disk. A great gain was the ISO rating which is available up to 6400. I have use the *istD at 3200 and the image is horribly noisy. The Blad was not totally clean at 6400 but gave a good result, and at 3200 was comparable with the 800 of the Pentax. On using a strobe with
Re: Thanks! (firmware update for -DS)
On 12/1/05, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I was hoping for that doesn't seem to be in the release is the linking of aperture and exposure when using K/M lenses. [...] Some of us had been hoping for something like that for the D in the past. Now what would be extremely great would be if Pentax made the firmware open source, at least for cameras they are not making anymore, like the istD. That would create a sizeable following of geeks, would ensure the appearance of really cool things done with their cameras, and could only benefit Pentax--I believe greatly. Heck, I'd even pay some money for a firmware developer kit if there was one. j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: srbg to Adobe RGB ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/1/2005 6:37:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have full color management checked. when I get into the save as dialog box, the ICC profile is checked. with the image in question, it shows srbg (with a bunch of numbers after that) except for images from this one cd, it tells me it is Adobe RGB. I have elements 2.0 ann the perplexed == The srbg and numbers is a profile for your specific monitor. Probably a default one if you have never run Adobe Gamma. Marnie Actually, this turns out not to be the problem. my default is Adobe 98 RBG - the file was from a cd produced after I loaded images that were not recorded in Adobe onto someone elses computer and then burned them. As it turns out, happily, I can send the image alerting the agency that it is srgb and I'll be ok. that ws really my only concern. Best, ann
