Re: Re: Google Earth photo links

2006-01-27 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I doubt it's your network, if it has network problems then it won't 
be able to
log on, my bets are on a graphics driver incompatibility. Try 
starting it from
the start menu using the DirectX start icon. If it still doesn't 
open
successfully then change your screen colour depth, the aim is to get 
the
application to open and remain open so that you can get into the 
options tab
and optimise the settings to suite the particular machine. It's 
worth the

effort.


I think Mike is right about the network being the obstacle. I just ran 
a packet capture, and found that the app use port 1097 and 1098 for 
authentication towards the Google server. It needs to log on to fetch 
map graphics. Corporate/university firewall usually blocks all traffic 
on high ports (1024), so that could very well explain why the app 
stalls in startup.


Jostein



Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread Jostein

Tom,

You mean as in: Pentax users that *mostly* already own the lenses 
they want. 


:-)

Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: lens around to buy?



From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I think a 200/2.8 is pretty exotic for the average slr buyer. I also 
believe that the *stD appeal to two kinds of buyers; 1) entry level 
users who buy kit lenses. 2) Pentax users that already own the 
lenses they want. They only use the *istD because something better 
isn't available. I believe there are very few who buys exotic Pentax 
glass these days.





I'll agree with you on the above with the caveat of using the word 
mostly.


Tom C.






Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I find that easier to stomach than that a box full of loose wires badly 
connected together can give me inner peace, or haven't you heard about 
auditing...


Bob W wrote:

I know he's a Scientologist, but I don't feel that his 
enthusiasm for Scientology makes him weird.  Certainly no 
more weird than other people with strong religious or 
political beliefs.  With that as a basis, then you might have 
to consider the pope as being weird.


   



he believes a man was born of a virgin, and subsequently came back from the
dead. 


I'd say that was weird.

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Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/1/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Usually I'll engage in an argument when I believe I have a valid point to 
make. 

Mark!




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Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/1/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's hard to buy what isn't available.

Bonus points. Mark!




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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm surprised that you'd leave his personal life to him since he 
doesn't.  At least not where his religion is concerned. 


Shel Belinkoff wrote:


I just asked Marnie in what way she thought Tom Cruise is weird.  I have no
thoughts about him one way or another.  I don't watch TV interviews with
him.  I judge him solely on his entertainment value through the movies he
makes, and leave him to his personal life.  I've seen four or five of his
movies - some I've liked, some I didn't.  I do know that he was
instrumental in getting a couple of independent films released, films that
otherwise may not have been made.  Based on that, he seems to be a pretty
decent guy.

I didn't ask you to change [my] mind.  A simple explanation for how he is
weird is all I asked.

Shel



 


[Original Message]
From: keith_w 
   



 


Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   

I love it when I read comments like that.  In what way is Tom Cruise 
weird?


Shel
 


In what way is he NOT wierd?

If you think Tom Cruise is normal there's nothing I can say that will 
change your mind.


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Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]


In a frank talk I once had with a Pentax rep, I found out that 
Pentax tells Pentax USA little more than Pentax tells us.


That, I believe, very much reflects the behaviour of all 
representatives outside Japan.



He described the company officials as arrogant.


In this country, the Japanese are simply referred to as silent. :-)

Jostein 



RE: Google Earth photo links

2006-01-27 Thread Bob W
Type in 'se10 0ef' and it'll zoom to my street. Quite hi-res for most of
London. If you zoom closer you can see my house on the north-east part of
the street - it's has a white blob on top, which is the skylight. If you
squint you can see me sunbathing naked on the landing. I'll wave...

Google must have a really good camera. Have you noticed that it's daytime
throughout the world!

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 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 27 January 2006 07:44
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: Google Earth photo links
 
 Excellent. Just tried it on a Powermac dual 1 Ghz with 1 GB 
 RAM and it ran very well. I'd heard about it before but never 
 seen it. Our little corner of Oxfordshire is just a green 
 blobby mass, so maybe we'll get hi- res when Wills is king
 
 
 
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Re: Re: Google Earth photo links

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 08:09:13 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Re: Google Earth photo links
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I doubt it's your network, if it has network problems then it won't 
  be able to
  log on, my bets are on a graphics driver incompatibility. Try 
  starting it from
  the start menu using the DirectX start icon. If it still doesn't 
  open
  successfully then change your screen colour depth, the aim is to get 
  the
  application to open and remain open so that you can get into the 
  options tab
  and optimise the settings to suite the particular machine. It's 
  worth the
  effort.
 
 I think Mike is right about the network being the obstacle. I just ran 
 a packet capture, and found that the app use port 1097 and 1098 for 
 authentication towards the Google server. It needs to log on to fetch 
 map graphics. Corporate/university firewall usually blocks all traffic 
 on high ports (1024), so that could very well explain why the app 
 stalls in startup.
 
Seems to be so 8-(  Graphics card is compatible.  I'm quite suprised the app is 
not available for Win9X, with so many existing users.  Ho hum.

Thanks for your help, Rob and Jostein.

mike


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Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 08:25:20 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 I find that easier to stomach than that a box full of loose wires badly 
 connected together can give me inner peace, or haven't you heard about 
 auditing...

Peter, you're weird.

 
 Bob W wrote:
 
 I know he's a Scientologist, but I don't feel that his 
 enthusiasm for Scientology makes him weird.  Certainly no 
 more weird than other people with strong religious or 
 political beliefs.  With that as a basis, then you might have 
 to consider the pope as being weird.
 
 
 
 
 he believes a man was born of a virgin, and subsequently came back from the
 dead. 
 
 I'd say that was weird.
 
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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
...and Scientology is a scam, but who am I to judge?  Wait a minute, I'm 
not going to even try to be evenhanded here.  Sorry, but you are full of 
it.  My cousin would be dead by her own hand or institutionalized for 
her own safety,  if not for the drugs prescribed by a Psychiatrist, (an 
MD by the way).  With the she can live a fairly normal life, without 
them, she'd be hanging from a chandelier in a manic stage or by a rope.  
Some people have chemical imbalances which cannot be countered by any 
kind of will power, vitamins, exercise, (she was a guide for an Outward 
Bound type of program),  or magical boxes full of wires and blinking 
lights.  Little Tommy has been brainwashed.  What the hell is your excuse?


Bob W wrote:


I agree with little Tommy on this one. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience. And
I'm not weird!

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/2
   


4/AR2005062401866_pf.html
 

The Wikipedia (spelling?) entry on him is kind of, um, 
interesting as well.


Incidentally, to clarify in advance -- I just found that 
Washington Post item for the first time, but since it 
provides the story, I didn't continue searching for my 
original source of information about the episode. I didn't 
base my opinion on the WP article, which appears to be an 
opinion piece, but on news reports of the same interview (and its

fallout.)

ERNR




   




 




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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling

I've been in lamer ones.

Doug Brewer wrote:


This has to be the lamest flame war in PDML history.





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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling

I'm not weird, you think I made that up?

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/

mike wilson wrote:


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 08:25:20 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc

I find that easier to stomach than that a box full of loose wires badly 
connected together can give me inner peace, or haven't you heard about 
auditing...
   



Peter, you're weird.

 


Bob W wrote:

   

I know he's a Scientologist, but I don't feel that his 
enthusiasm for Scientology makes him weird.  Certainly no 
more weird than other people with strong religious or 
political beliefs.  With that as a basis, then you might have 
to consider the pope as being weird.


  

   


he believes a man was born of a virgin, and subsequently came back from the
dead. 


I'd say that was weird.

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ist-DL2 press release

2006-01-27 Thread Thibouille
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200603.html

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Re: Which lens do you use most?

2006-01-27 Thread Powell Hargrave
DA 18-55 Kit lens travels with me on the DS.  It is compact, light and does
many jobs quite well.  Mine is certainly sharp enough and the slight
distortion and CA can easily be fixed with PTLens if needed.

Sigma 50mm EX Macro.  To get up close.

Zenitar fish eye for fun and to get wide.

Others as needed.  Hope to use the Tokina 100-300 f4 more if it ever gets
dry outside.

Powell



Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

2006-01-27 Thread dagt
A problem for analysts may be that family controlled businesses are much more 
unpredictable than others.  A rich enthusiast may be better at keeping an 
otherwise doomed department alive long enough to make it profitable, while the 
ordinary investor looses his interest long before that.

DagT 

 fra: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dato: 2006/01/27 fr AM 08:35:16 CET
 til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 emne: Re: Financal Condition of Pentax
 
 Herb is a financial analyst, if he were really good at it he wouldn't be
 working for someone else.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 1/24/2006 3:03:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
 
 On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, John Forbes wrote:
 
   
 
 As for the rest, I think you underestimate the power of your own voice. 
 The person who started this thread said he had read that Pentax was in 
 financial difficulties.  How many other people have read one of Herb's 
 posts and believed it?  According to Herb's prognostications, Pentax went 
 bust six months ago.
 
 
 Let me tried to understand this: is the imaging division of Pentax now 
 making profit? That's the one Herb was saying was a loss-maker. He always 
 said that the company, as a whole, was making money.
   
 
 According to their latest report (2005.11.09: Interim Report on Settlement 
 
 
 of 
   
 
 Accounts ( Consolidated ) for Business Year Ending March 31, 2006), the 
 imaging division made an operating loss.
 
 The company as a whole is profitable.
 
 
 
 Which is what Herb has always said. Of course he guessed whether the 
 company would close down the loss-making division, but of course all 
 anyone can do about that is guess.
 
 Kostas
 
 Yes, I agree. Herb may have been dubious about Pentax's future, but he did 
 not distort the figures. He reported the financial facts accurately.
 
 Marnie aka Doe 
 
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson
No, I was referring to a person being pacified by some kind of man-made placebo 
as opposed to having faith in a historical tale that contradicts commonsense.
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 09:07:56 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 I'm not weird, you think I made that up?
 
 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/
 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 08:25:20 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 I find that easier to stomach than that a box full of loose wires badly 
 connected together can give me inner peace, or haven't you heard about 
 auditing...
 
 
 
 Peter, you're weird.
 
   
 
 Bob W wrote:
 
 
 
 I know he's a Scientologist, but I don't feel that his 
 enthusiasm for Scientology makes him weird.  Certainly no 
 more weird than other people with strong religious or 
 political beliefs.  With that as a basis, then you might have 
 to consider the pope as being weird.
 

 
 
 
 he believes a man was born of a virgin, and subsequently came back from the
 dead. 
 
 I'd say that was weird.
 
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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling

That there are taxes at all is abhorrent...

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


That religious organization are tax exempt at all is, IMO, abhorrent.

Shel



 


[Original Message]
From: Juan Buhler
   



 


The fact that here in America a group like scientology is tax exempt
is abhorrent.
   





 




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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling

That's the pitiful part.

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc




Tom is not weird. Wrong adjective. He is pitiful.



Perhaps he has been brainwashed.

William Robb





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Re: OT: Scientology (was Capa Doc)

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling

But it came out squeaky clean.

Bob Shell wrote:



On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:33 AM, William Robb wrote:


Tom is not weird. Wrong adjective. He is pitiful.



Perhaps he has been brainwashed.




It would only take the trial size detergent pack to do that.

Bob





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Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 09:34:11 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 That there are taxes at all is abhorrent...

What have the Romans ever done for us?

 
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 That religious organization are tax exempt at all is, IMO, abhorrent.
 
 Shel
 
 
 
   
 
 [Original Message]
 From: Juan Buhler
 
 
 
   
 
 The fact that here in America a group like scientology is tax exempt
 is abhorrent.
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: GESO: A new photoblog

2006-01-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Cotty wrote:


On 26/1/06, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://color.jbuhler.com


Your shots are *dangerously* sharp :-)


Noticed that myself. I have never shot anything like it.

Kostas (Milano fan :-)



Re: istD plus 16-45 f4 for $1200

2006-01-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:

More interestingly they have a *ist-DS for $499 while they are selling a 
*ist-DL for $569, in the same listed condition...


What I find interesting is that I am not moved. At all. Even though 
digital cameras are exempt of import duties.


Kostas (check it again if planning to import though, been a while 
since I last checked this)




Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling

I will not go into Python.

mike wilson wrote:


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 09:34:11 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc

That there are taxes at all is abhorrent...
   



What have the Romans ever done for us?

 


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

   


That religious organization are tax exempt at all is, IMO, abhorrent.

Shel





 


[Original Message]
From: Juan Buhler
  

   




 


The fact that here in America a group like scientology is tax exempt
is abhorrent.
  

   





 


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Re: ist-DL2 press release

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
They upgraded the DL a bit... 
Maybe the DL is being dropped from the line up. 
So when the D2 is released everything will have a 2 in it's name.



Thibouille wrote:


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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
It really depends on intent I guess.  There is an intent to deceive in 
the use of the E-meter, somewhere along the way, because anyone with the 
least understanding of biology and electronics can tell you exactly how 
it works and what it is doing, and it sure as hell isn't what the 
auditor says it is.  The Pope may believe in a very improbable story as 
the basis for his belief, but it's a belief, not a con, at least as far 
as I can tell. 


mike wilson wrote:


No, I was referring to a person being pacified by some kind of man-made placebo 
as opposed to having faith in a historical tale that contradicts commonsense.
 


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 09:07:56 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc

I'm not weird, you think I made that up?

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/

mike wilson wrote:

   


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 08:25:20 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc

I find that easier to stomach than that a box full of loose wires badly 
connected together can give me inner peace, or haven't you heard about 
auditing...
  

   


Peter, you're weird.



 


Bob W wrote:

  

   

I know he's a Scientologist, but I don't feel that his 
enthusiasm for Scientology makes him weird.  Certainly no 
more weird than other people with strong religious or 
political beliefs.  With that as a basis, then you might have 
to consider the pope as being weird.


 

  

   


he believes a man was born of a virgin, and subsequently came back from the
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I'd say that was weird.

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Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 10:43:55 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 It really depends on intent I guess.  There is an intent to deceive in 
 the use of the E-meter, somewhere along the way, because anyone with the 
 least understanding of biology and electronics can tell you exactly how 
 it works and what it is doing, and it sure as hell isn't what the 
 auditor says it is.  The Pope may believe in a very improbable story as 
 the basis for his belief, but it's a belief, not a con, at least as far 
 as I can tell. 

Is that not just a function of time?

 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 No, I was referring to a person being pacified by some kind of man-made 
 placebo as opposed to having faith in a historical tale that contradicts 
 commonsense.
   
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 09:07:56 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 I'm not weird, you think I made that up?
 
 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/
 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 08:25:20 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 I find that easier to stomach than that a box full of loose wires badly 
 connected together can give me inner peace, or haven't you heard about 
 auditing...

 
 
 
 Peter, you're weird.
 
  
 
   
 
 Bob W wrote:
 

 
 
 
 I know he's a Scientologist, but I don't feel that his 
 enthusiasm for Scientology makes him weird.  Certainly no 
 more weird than other people with strong religious or 
 political beliefs.  With that as a basis, then you might have 
 to consider the pope as being weird.
 
   
 

 
 
 
 he believes a man was born of a virgin, and subsequently came back from 
 the
 dead. 
 
 I'd say that was weird.
 
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Re: ist-DL2 press release

2006-01-27 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200603.html

No anti-shake?

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Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
In some cases yes.  However in the case of most of the current world 
religions I expect that they were honest examples of trying to explain 
the unexplainable.   L. Ron Hubbard, noticed that most of the adherents 
of Psychology among other modern replacements for religion, treated them 
as true beliefs, not as science, and took advantage of that, hiding a 
core of garble farb in the trappings of science.  The advantage of 
this is that you can change your core to match any particular persons 
preconceptions.  The obvious purpose is to hide the truth rather than 
explain it.



mike wilson wrote:


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 10:43:55 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc

It really depends on intent I guess.  There is an intent to deceive in 
the use of the E-meter, somewhere along the way, because anyone with the 
least understanding of biology and electronics can tell you exactly how 
it works and what it is doing, and it sure as hell isn't what the 
auditor says it is.  The Pope may believe in a very improbable story as 
the basis for his belief, but it's a belief, not a con, at least as far 
as I can tell. 
   



Is that not just a function of time?

 


mike wilson wrote:

   


No, I was referring to a person being pacified by some kind of man-made placebo 
as opposed to having faith in a historical tale that contradicts commonsense.


 


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 09:07:56 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc

I'm not weird, you think I made that up?

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/

mike wilson wrote:

  

   


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri AM 08:25:20 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc

I find that easier to stomach than that a box full of loose wires badly 
connected together can give me inner peace, or haven't you heard about 
auditing...
 

  

   


Peter, you're weird.





 


Bob W wrote:

 

  

   

I know he's a Scientologist, but I don't feel that his 
enthusiasm for Scientology makes him weird.  Certainly no 
more weird than other people with strong religious or 
political beliefs.  With that as a basis, then you might have 
to consider the pope as being weird.




 

  

   


he believes a man was born of a virgin, and subsequently came back from the
dead. 


I'd say that was weird.

Bob




   



 


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Re: ist-DL2 press release

2006-01-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

No.

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: ist-DL2 press release



This one time, at band camp, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200603.html


No anti-shake?

Kevin


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Re: Cannot handle mixed files with Picasa or Rawshooter?

2006-01-27 Thread Peter McIntosh

P. J. Alling wrote:

Try Irfanview, it's a free editor with a thumbnail/browsing feature, 
it handles Pentax PEF files, (from the DS and D) and most other image 
files.  You can select an external editor to use as well.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Irfanview also handles PEF files from the *ist-DL now.

Ciao,

Peter in Sydney



Re: istD plus 16-45 f4 for $1200

2006-01-27 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:54:21 -, Kostas Kavoussanakis  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:

More interestingly they have a *ist-DS for $499 while they are selling  
a *ist-DL for $569, in the same listed condition...


What I find interesting is that I am not moved. At all. Even though  
digital cameras are exempt of import duties.


Kostas (check it again if planning to import though, been a while since  
I last checked this)


Import duties on nearly everything are now very low.  It's the VAT you  
have to worry about.


John


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Re: ist-DL2 press release

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
This is just buzz marketing. It's a new version of the DL, a minor 
upgrade meant to stimulate sales. It's nothing to get excited about, 
and it's nothing to wring one's hands over. The sky isn't falling.

Paul
On Jan 27, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


No.

Dario

- Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: ist-DL2 press release



This one time, at band camp, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200603.html

No anti-shake?
Kevin
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Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:13:15 -, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



On 27 Jan 2006 at 1:36, John Forbes wrote:


I'm not arguing with you, Rob, that they should be available new.  I'm
just saying that one can equip oneself quite well by buying second-hand.
If I had the cash, there is not one desirable Pentax lens that I could  
not

have bought in the past year in excellent condition at lower than new
prices.

So:

1. yes, they ought to be available new,
2. but it doesn't matter; they're available second-hand (and cheaper).


I suspect that our definitions of cheap and available differ somewhat.

Last Dec an A*200/4 sold on eBay for $1,343.43
Last June two FA80-200/2.8 sold on eBay for  $1,563.35 and $1,149.99
Last June an FA*200/4 sold on eBay for $1,132.00
Last May an A*200/4 sold on eBay for $1,125.00
Last April an FA*200/4 sold on eBay for $1,225.92
Last April an A*200/4 sold on eBay for $1,187.29
Last March an FA80-200/2.8 sold on eBay for $1,081.35

Cheap to some but hardly common given the volume of Pentax gear that  
filters

though eBay.


Now you're putting words into my mouth, Rob.  I never said cheap, I said  
cheaper [than new], and as for available, I said that over a year  
every desirable lens could have been bought.  Obviously that's not nearly  
as good as being able to buy off the shelf, but it does mean that those  
who seek can find.


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Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

2006-01-27 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling

Subject: Re: Financal Condition of Pentax



Herb is a financial analyst, if he were really good at it he wouldn't be
working for someone else.


You are being a more than a lttle mean spirited, and I think, wrong as well.
Look at it the other way, if he was bad at it, he would't be employed.
Were Pentax doing as well as you would like to believe, they'd have told 
Samsung to go piss in a bucket.
Shooting the messenger may make you feel better, but it doesn't change the 
veracity of the message.


William Robb 





Re: Google Earth photo links

2006-01-27 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty

Subject: Re: Google Earth photo links



Excellent. Just tried it on a Powermac dual 1 Ghz with 1 GB RAM and it
ran very well. I'd heard about it before but never seen it. Our little
corner of Oxfordshire is just a green blobby mass, so maybe we'll get hi-
res when Wills is king


The imaging of my neck of the woods still shows my house with a cottage 
roof. I took that roof off nearly 3 years ago.


William Robb 





Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling

Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc



That there are taxes at all is abhorrent...


Just think, no taxes; no roads, no schools, no hospitals, no police or 
military.

We'd still be living in caves killing our neighbors for scraps of food.

William Robb.




Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling 
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc




That's the pitiful part.


It can happen to anyone.
Most Republicans suffer from some sort of it.

William Robb



Perhaps he has been brainwashed.






Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: John Forbes

Subject: Re: lens around to buy?





Now you're putting words into my mouth, Rob.  I never said cheap, I said 
cheaper [than new], and as for available, I said that over a year 
every desirable lens could have been bought.  Obviously that's not nearly 
as good as being able to buy off the shelf, but it does mean that those 
who seek can find.


It most likely means that Pentax has lost a bunch of potential high end DSLR 
customers who are selling off their primo lenses to finance Nikons and 
Canons, and laughing all the way to the bank that this stuff seems to be 
golden.


William Robb




Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
I'm passing this along to the list at the request of someone who works
at Pentax Canada:

I currently work for Pentax and we are calling out to
pentax users for images shot with Pentax digital
cameras. Digital SLR and point and shoots.
Please mention what camera you used to take the photo.


We would like to have one or two of you best images
sent to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If there are people in your shot please think before
you send it to us. They may not want to be in a slide
show. These photos will not be used on our website or
in any print ads. Only in a slide show of images at
conventions.

We don't need big files 500k or smaller. These will be
used in a slide so at conventions to show images
produced on pentax cameras.

Thank you for your time.

I can assure you that this is entirely legit, and although I'm not
sure that the person wants his name passed along, he does indeed work
for Pentax Canada.

cheers,
frank


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Re: Re: Google Earth photo links

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri PM 12:36:15 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Google Earth photo links
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cotty
 Subject: Re: Google Earth photo links
 
 
  Excellent. Just tried it on a Powermac dual 1 Ghz with 1 GB RAM and it
  ran very well. I'd heard about it before but never seen it. Our little
  corner of Oxfordshire is just a green blobby mass, so maybe we'll get hi-
  res when Wills is king
 
 The imaging of my neck of the woods still shows my house with a cottage 
 roof. I took that roof off nearly 3 years ago.
 
I think it uses 2001 images.


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Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Peter, you're weird.

What's your point?

-frank

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Re: PESO - The Big Sniff

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I rather like it.

Thanks, Peter.

And a blanket thanks to everyone else who commented.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO: Drama

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/26/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/2006-01.htm
 :)


Very, er, dramatic?

g

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO - two new images

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/26/06, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A couple of shots taken a few days ago on my morning walk - comments
 welcome.


 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4061003

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4061007


I like them both, but (unlike some others, it seems) I like the bridge
shot best.  I just like bridges, I guess.  That one's a good one!

cheers,
frank

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Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri PM 12:50:58 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc
 
 On 1/27/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Peter, you're weird.
 
 What's your point?
 

I like stating the obvious.


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Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri PM 12:47:29 GMT
 To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
 
 I'm passing this along to the list at the request of someone who works
 at Pentax Canada:
 
 I currently work for Pentax and we are calling out to
 pentax users for images shot with Pentax digital
 cameras. Digital SLR and point and shoots.
 Please mention what camera you used to take the photo.
 
 
 We would like to have one or two of you best images
 sent to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If there are people in your shot please think before
 you send it to us. They may not want to be in a slide
 show. These photos will not be used on our website or
 in any print ads. Only in a slide show of images at
 conventions.
 
 We don't need big files 500k or smaller. These will be
 used in a slide so at conventions to show images
 produced on pentax cameras.
 
 Thank you for your time.
 
 I can assure you that this is entirely legit, and although I'm not
 sure that the person wants his name passed along, he does indeed work
 for Pentax Canada.
 
So how much are they paying and who holds the copyright?

Shall I guess?


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Re: Re: Google Earth photo links

2006-01-27 Thread David Savage
On 1/27/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wrom: OWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDU
 
  The imaging of my neck of the woods still shows my house with a cottage
  roof. I took that roof off nearly 3 years ago.
 
 I think it uses 2001 images.



It's a few more than that I think.

My neck of the wood's is pretty current. Most of the building that has
gone on in the last 12 months is up to date.

Dave



Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I like stating the obvious.

LOL!

cheers, etc,
frank


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Re: Glowing Sahuaros

2006-01-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Magazine cover Joe...  Great shot!   Regards,  Bob S.

On 1/26/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well done Joe. Other than working this scene for variations, (isolate single
 plants, landscape orientation, parts of a single plant etc.) I have no
 suggestions.

 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message -
 From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:01 PM
 Subject: PESO: Glowing Sahuaros


  http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/4609/display/4849127
 
  This is the first time I have encountered the right lighting to try this.
  Suggestions for how to do it better are welcome.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Joe
 





Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 So how much are they paying and who holds the copyright?

 Shall I guess?

I'm only the messenger.  I'm assuming that the e-mail address (above)
would be the place to send any enquiries...

cheers,
frank

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Re: Peso: runners

2006-01-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks PJ,
Actually, I think that's sunrise you see on the left side of the road.
 Some rays of dawn managed to get thru the fog which was thicker near
the trees.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 1/27/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like the composition and the muted colors, the only thing that bothers
 me is what appears to be pinkish
 flair on the left hand side of the road near the bottom edge of the
 image.  Not much you could do about that
 short of photoshoping it out.

 Bob Sullivan wrote:

 We had a snowstorm Friday night and went over to the Arboretum at
 sunrise on Saturday morning.  I took a number of shots with the Ds and
 16-45 zoom.  Here is one of them...
  http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/runners.jpg
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 
 
 


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Re: PESO: Drama

2006-01-27 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/26/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/2006-01.htm
 :)

Keeps timing out - will try later - if I feel like it.

Been having web site troubles for a while. Host is replacing a suspect
firewall unit this weekend. Hope that fixes things.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Best Deal Ever - was: Accidental Enablement

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/26/06, Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 My humble apologies frank.  NO Wait!  I'm sure, sooner or later, I will
 find a reason to hate you too, (other than your being from Trona) so will
 hold my apology in abeyance.

I think the best deal I ever got was at a yard sale, about 7 years
ago.  Actually, it was my father who made the purchase, then he gave
the items to me:

Spotmatic SP500,
Super Tak f2.0 55mm,
Takumar f3.5 200mm (pre-set aperture)

All for $20 Cdn.  The only problem was that the meter appeared to be
not working.  I looked at it, changed the plastic collar on the
battery so that the polarity was correct, and it's been working like a
charm ever since.

That was my first Pentax ever.  When I bought my first SLR, back
around 1970, I wanted a Spotmatic, but couldn't afford one, so I got a
Praktica, as they were cheap, and I figured that I could use the
screwmount lenses on a Spotmatic if I could ever afford one.

I had long since had my Praktica stuff stolen, and was camera-less at
the time of the yard-sale purchase.  My dad got the stuff for me as he
remembered how much I wanted a Spottie back in the day.

Just think, had he not bought the stuff on a whim, I might not be on
this list today.  So, you can blame him for me being here g.

And, that's the story of my best deal ever.

cheers,
frank

ps:  I know I've told the list about this before.  Apologies to those
who've heard this (possibly even more than once) before.


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Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Drama

2006-01-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/26/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/2006-01.htm

Drama indeed :)

Is that a photoblog, Mark? I see navigation arrows and a date, but it
times out when I try to go there...

It's a project I'm doing for the Duquesne University Theater Arts
Department. The photo in the link (which you should be able to reach
when my host replaces a defective firewall) is a photo of a wall in
their office. Most of the others are of program brochures from plays
they have put on - going all the way back to 1913! Very cool stuff.
 
Hope web site problems will be worked out shortly.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm only the messenger.  I'm assuming that the e-mail address (above)
 would be the place to send any enquiries...

Any questions regarding this matter can be forwarded to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I know that if I had a Pentax digital camera, I'd send a few in.  I
think it would be fun, but that's just me.  If you don't think it
would be fun, then don't participate...

cheers,
frank


--
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Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, mike wilson wrote:


So how much are they paying and who holds the copyright?


I am not sure anyone can remove the copyright; you took it so it's 
yours. Whether you pass the right for reproduction is something else 
(I think :-).


Kostas



Re: Enablement: M*300/4

2006-01-27 Thread Stephen Moore


Jon Myers wrote:


I've got a M*300/4 on its way to me. I'm stoked. Now I
need something super duper wide, like an M20/4 or one
of the 15s (yeah right, neither is happening anytime soon)


Great lens! A fine compromise between reach and hand-holdability.

predictable_rant
But I wish it had a tripod collar...
/predictable_rant

Good shooting,
Stephen



Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Kennedy
If this is a formal Pentax Canada request, I'm surprised that they
would want these sent to a freebee gmail account.  Puts some red flags
up for me.  I would have thought that they would use the Pentax or
PentaxCanada domain email accounts.

(Course, I'm extremely cautious with respect to this kind of request
on the internet).


dk

On 1/27/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm passing this along to the list at the request of someone who works
 at Pentax Canada:

 I currently work for Pentax and we are calling out to
 pentax users for images shot with Pentax digital
 cameras. Digital SLR and point and shoots.
 Please mention what camera you used to take the photo.


 We would like to have one or two of you best images
 sent to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If there are people in your shot please think before
 you send it to us. They may not want to be in a slide
 show. These photos will not be used on our website or
 in any print ads. Only in a slide show of images at
 conventions.

 We don't need big files 500k or smaller. These will be
 used in a slide so at conventions to show images
 produced on pentax cameras.

 Thank you for your time.

 I can assure you that this is entirely legit, and although I'm not
 sure that the person wants his name passed along, he does indeed work
 for Pentax Canada.

 cheers,
 frank


 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: Enablement: M*300/4

2006-01-27 Thread Fred
 I've got a M*300/4 on its way to me. I'm stoked.

 Great lens! A fine compromise between reach and hand-holdability.

Indeed.  I find 300mm to be a great hand-holdable FL (assuming that the
light is reasonably bright).

 predictable_rant
 But I wish it had a tripod collar...
 /predictable_rant

In the words of Bill Clinton, I feel your pain - g.

Fred





Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread Larry Levy

In a fit of rare lack of understanding Rob Studdert admitted:


missing something given my view of Pentax's apparent
practices, they don't strike me as a company who are striving to service 
their

customers, hell even Pal said so in a roundabout way. :-)


Rob is missing the animal husbandry meaning of the term servicing. In the 
recent past Pentax has been extensively using that defintion with regard to 
its customers.


Larry in Dallas



Re: Enablement: M*300/4

2006-01-27 Thread Jon Myers
I wonder if it'll put too much strain on an LX+winder
tripod-mounted... Guess I'll find out in a week or two
when it arrives! :)

--- Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've got a M*300/4 on its way to me. I'm stoked.
 
  Great lens! A fine compromise between reach and
 hand-holdability.
 
 Indeed.  I find 300mm to be a great hand-holdable FL
 (assuming that the
 light is reasonably bright).
 
  predictable_rant
  But I wish it had a tripod collar...
  /predictable_rant
 
 In the words of Bill Clinton, I feel your pain -
 g.
 
 Fred
 
 
 
 


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Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/27/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm only the messenger.  I'm assuming that the e-mail address (above)
 would be the place to send any enquiries...

Any questions regarding this matter can be forwarded to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I know that if I had a Pentax digital camera, I'd send a few in.  I
think it would be fun, but that's just me.  If you don't think it
would be fun, then don't participate...

Y'know, I'm just short of militant when it comes to copyright grabs, but
even I think this sounds like fun. It seems they don't want any
copyright or even high-res files, just some stuff to show off on a
projector at a trade show. I'll send 'em a few.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Just arrived: very nice 645n with FA 45-85/4.5! What a nice piece of pro
equipment. Too bad Pentax doesn't make something similar for K-mount... So
now my film photos will be rather only 6x4.5 ;-)
Digital shmigital ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Enablement: M*300/4

2006-01-27 Thread pnstenquist
When using it on a tripod, I would use the LX without the winder. It's a more 
secure connection and less lever length to stress the connection. I once 
mistakenly attached my LX, motor drive and A400/5.6 to a tripod using the 
tripod mount in the motor drive rather than the lens' mount. (A case of brain 
fade.) The weight of the lens ripped the motor drive apart.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Jon Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I wonder if it'll put too much strain on an LX+winder
 tripod-mounted... Guess I'll find out in a week or two
 when it arrives! :)
 
 --- Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I've got a M*300/4 on its way to me. I'm stoked.
  
   Great lens! A fine compromise between reach and
  hand-holdability.
  
  Indeed.  I find 300mm to be a great hand-holdable FL
  (assuming that the
  light is reasonably bright).
  
   predictable_rant
   But I wish it had a tripod collar...
   /predictable_rant
  
  In the words of Bill Clinton, I feel your pain -
  g.
  
  Fred
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Dickey Chapelle Article (redux)

2006-01-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
This was posted yesterday and only received one comment.  I didn't see a
copy on the list, so perhaps there was some problems with the posting.  So,
one more try ... my apologies if it did appear on the list and if this is a
duplicate post.



Not too many people know about Dickey Chapelle. Those that do, generally
don't know much about her other than she was a photojournalist and that she
was killed in Vietnam. There hasn't been much written about her until
recently, over the last couple-three years. And even that which has been
written is often incomplete or wrong.
 
I've always known of Dickey Chapelle, or at least it seems that way. I
must have seen some of her work in Look magazine, or read some articles she
wrote in Reader's Digest. I really can't recall, but years later, when
someone casually mentioned her name, I was reminded of her, and decided to
find out more about her life and her work. During the past couple of years
I've come across a couple of Marines who knew her in Vietnam, one who was
there when she was killed, and a friend of the pilot who choppered her
lifeless body out of Chu Lai on that fateful day. 
 
I've become a fan of Dickey Chapelle, a women whose career was filled with
firsts - the first woman PJ in Vietnam, the first woman PJ killed in
Vietnam, the first woman covering the war in the pacific, the first and
only woman on the front lines at Iwo Jima, the first woman to parachute
into combat zones, and the first to tell the world that the US was engaged
in a war in Vietnam, and that we weren't just advisors. 
 
In 1962, Dickey photographed a U.S. Marine, in uniform, combat-ready in the
door of a helicopter, surrounded by a cadre of South Vietnamese soldiers.
It was the first published photograph of an American in combat in Vietnam
and the photo won the 1963 Press Photographer's Association Photograph of
the Year award. The list of Dickey Chapelle firsts is large, and I
discover more every month.
 
Over the years I've become a fan and a booster of Dickey Chapelle, and have
been looking for new or long forgotten information about her. In 1957 she
went to Algiers, the first journalist to be accredited by the partisans,
and lived amongst them for a month or so,
documenting their struggle against the French. I didn't know of that until
recently, and just a couple of days ago Dr. Sheila Webb, the author of an
article entitled An American Journalist in the Role of Partisan – Dickey
Chapelle’s Coverage of the Algerian War, and I had a chance to talk via
email, and she sent me a copy of the article she'd written. 

The article appeared in a rather obscure journal, American Journalism, and
puts forth the argument that The work of Chapelle prefigured the more
engaged photography [style] of the 1960's and that The photographs and
copy she produced in the Algerian Hills in 1957 offered a fresh discourse
in style, approach and visuals. Webb compares Chapelle's style of working
to that of Robert Capa's during the Spanish Civil War.
 
If you're interested in photojournalism, and learning more about Dickey
Chapelle, Dr. Webb's article can be found on one of my web pages. It'll be
there for about a week before being taken down.
 
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/dickey_chapelle/algiers.pdf (1.25mb)
 
Shel




Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Just arrived: very nice 645n with FA 45-85/4.5! What a nice piece of pro
equipment. Too bad Pentax doesn't make something similar for K-mount... So
now my film photos will be rather only 6x4.5 ;-)
Digital shmigital ;-)


Way to go!!! Congrats!!!

Boris



Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Jostein

Eey!
Congrats Sylwek! ;-)
Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Analog enablement


Just arrived: very nice 645n with FA 45-85/4.5! What a nice piece of 
pro
equipment. Too bad Pentax doesn't make something similar for 
K-mount... So

now my film photos will be rather only 6x4.5 ;-)
Digital shmigital ;-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





RE: Enablement: M*300/4

2006-01-27 Thread Jens Bladt
Congratulations, Jon.
I have one of those too. It's simply a brilliant lens.
I'd love to have one of the 3.5/15mm lenses as well. But that won't happen
some day soon either ;-(
Until then I'll continue using my A 2.8/20mm, which is actually an excellent
lens too.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jon Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 27. januar 2006 07:51
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Enablement: M*300/4


I've got a M*300/4 on its way to me. I'm stoked. Now I
need something super duper wide, like an M20/4 or one
of the 15s (yeah right, neither is happening anytime soon)

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Re: Enablement: M*300/4

2006-01-27 Thread Fred
 I wonder if it'll put too much strain on an LX+winder tripod-mounted...
 Guess I'll find out in a week or two when it arrives! :)

 When using it on a tripod, I would use the LX without the winder. It's a
 more secure connection and less lever length to stress the connection. I
 once mistakenly attached my LX, motor drive and A400/5.6 to a tripod
 using the tripod mount in the motor drive rather than the lens' mount. (A
 case of brain fade.) The weight of the lens ripped the motor drive apart.

I'd recommend what Paul has suggested, Jon.  While both the weight (maybe
2/3) and the length (maybe 1/2) of the M* 300/4 are less, compared with the
A 400/5.6, it would still be a pretty big source of torque on the winder.
While it may not actually rip apart the winder, it certainly would be
stressing the winder's rigidity, maybe pushing it to where you might have a
rather unstable setup for shooting at 300mm FL.  OTOH, the LX with just the
300/4 is no big deal (it's front-heavy, of course, but I've done that
before with no apparent problems).

Fred





Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If this is a formal Pentax Canada request, I'm surprised that they
 would want these sent to a freebee gmail account.  Puts some red flags
 up for me.  I would have thought that they would use the Pentax or
 PentaxCanada domain email accounts.

 (Course, I'm extremely cautious with respect to this kind of request
 on the internet).

Okay, I'm going to say this one more time:

I received the request to post this matter to the list from a Real
Pentax Canada Guy, who (while I won't say that I know him well) I've
personally met in the flesh, and even talked to and everything.  He
just doesn't want his name used at this point, but he'll be happy to
answer any enquiries if you e-mail him at his official Pentax e-mail
addie:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The g-mail address, I assume, was set up specially for this little
endeavor, so as not to clog up Pentax' corporate account.

If that's not good enough, he has authorized me to give you his phone numbers:

1-905-286-5585 extension 322,

or, toll-free:  1-800-461-6203 extension 322

Really guys, this is supposed to be a fun thing, and who knows, it may
help out the manufacturer of our beloved cameras in some small way. 
As I said, if I had a digicam, I'd be in there with all sorts of
blurry pix, to do my part.  g

But, if yer uncomfortable, just don't submit pix.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
You don't need taxes to support any of those things, and think how much 
cleaner the environment would be without modern highways...


William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT: Capa Doc



That there are taxes at all is abhorrent...



Just think, no taxes; no roads, no schools, no hospitals, no police or 
military.

We'd still be living in caves killing our neighbors for scraps of food.

William Robb.






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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.  You don't have a 
political party in your country that could survive if a bright light 
were shining on it. 


William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: OT: 
Capa Doc




That's the pitiful part.



It can happen to anyone.
Most Republicans suffer from some sort of it.

William Robb



Perhaps he has been brainwashed.










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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling

No fair you took time to think.

mike wilson wrote:


From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/27 Fri PM 12:47:29 GMT
To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

I'm passing this along to the list at the request of someone who works
at Pentax Canada:

I currently work for Pentax and we are calling out to
pentax users for images shot with Pentax digital
cameras. Digital SLR and point and shoots.
Please mention what camera you used to take the photo.


We would like to have one or two of you best images
sent to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If there are people in your shot please think before
you send it to us. They may not want to be in a slide
show. These photos will not be used on our website or
in any print ads. Only in a slide show of images at
conventions.

We don't need big files 500k or smaller. These will be
used in a slide so at conventions to show images
produced on pentax cameras.

Thank you for your time.

I can assure you that this is entirely legit, and although I'm not
sure that the person wants his name passed along, he does indeed work
for Pentax Canada.

   


So how much are they paying and who holds the copyright?

Shall I guess?


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Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Pål Jensen


- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Just arrived: very nice 645n with FA 45-85/4.5! What a nice piece of pro
equipment. Too bad Pentax doesn't make something similar for K-mount... So
now my film photos will be rather only 6x4.5 ;-)
Digital shmigital ;-)



I don't know about that!
I have in front of me a 645NII with the 33-55 lens. Also an LX with the 31 
Limited and the MZ-S with the 43 Limited. I'll say these cameras are 
(almost) evenly matched. If only they would make something similar in 
digital...


Pål 





Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You don't need taxes to support any of those things, and think how much
 cleaner the environment would be without modern highways...


You're right.  I think we could also do away with currency, while
we're at it.  I think governments should go out the window too.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Seriously.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.  You don't have a
 political party in your country that could survive if a bright light
 were shining on it.

What are you talking about?

We have the New Democratic Party!

Seriously.

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri PM 03:30:15 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
 
 No fair you took time to think.

That'll be the day.

 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri PM 12:47:29 GMT
 To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
 
 I'm passing this along to the list at the request of someone who works
 at Pentax Canada:
 
 I currently work for Pentax and we are calling out to
 pentax users for images shot with Pentax digital
 cameras. Digital SLR and point and shoots.
 Please mention what camera you used to take the photo.
 
 
 We would like to have one or two of you best images
 sent to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If there are people in your shot please think before
 you send it to us. They may not want to be in a slide
 show. These photos will not be used on our website or
 in any print ads. Only in a slide show of images at
 conventions.
 
 We don't need big files 500k or smaller. These will be
 used in a slide so at conventions to show images
 produced on pentax cameras.
 
 Thank you for your time.
 
 I can assure you that this is entirely legit, and although I'm not
 sure that the person wants his name passed along, he does indeed work
 for Pentax Canada.
 
 
 
 So how much are they paying and who holds the copyright?
 
 Shall I guess?
 
 
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Re: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
Peter said to me:
 
  No fair you took time to think.

mike retorted:

 That'll be the day.


Hey!

-frank, always thinking about something or other

--
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Re: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/27 Fri PM 03:47:09 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
 
 Peter said to me:
  
   No fair you took time to think.
 
 mike retorted:
 
  That'll be the day.
 
 
 Hey!

He was talkin' to me!

mike
off to get a mohican


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Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just arrived: very nice 645n with FA 45-85/4.5! What a nice piece of pro
 equipment. Too bad Pentax doesn't make something similar for K-mount... So
 now my film photos will be rather only 6x4.5 ;-)
 Digital shmigital ;-)


Good on you!

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 He was talkin' to me!

 mike
 off to get a mohican

So he was.

What's a mohican?

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mike
off to get a mohican

Don't take the last one...
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO: Tank on a perch

2006-01-27 Thread Amita Guha
On 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   I haven't posted a photo here in a while. This is
   one of the reasons why :) :
   http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/478517/1/53498988
  
   Cropped for camera tilt.
  
   Amita

 Nice shot and nice cat.Lighting is good and face nice and sharp.

Thanks!



PESO - Bummer

2006-01-27 Thread Doug Brewer

http://www.alphoto.com/images/bummer.jpg



RE: Dickey Chapelle Article (redux)

2006-01-27 Thread Unca Mikey
Hi Shel -- I saw your original posting and downloaded the article, 
but haven't read it yet.  I hate reading long PDFs on the screen, and 
won't have access to a printer until next week.  But the subject 
sounds interesting to me -- thanks for passing it along.


*UncaMikey

(I was in Vietnam when I first had the time and opportunity to get a 
good camera, on RR in Hong Kong:  a black Spotmatic.)




Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On 1/27/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mike
 off to get a mohican

 Don't take the last one...


I heard that movie (the version with Daniel Day Lewis, in case there
are more than one version) was mostly shot in North Carolina, in the
Blue Ridge range.

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



RE: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Jens Bladt
Congratulations. Wish it was mine :-)
Which brings me to a question I want to ask:
How do people get good 120-film development these days?
I just spoke to two large Danish professional labs. Both have stoped
developing slides. One of them film all together.
I's all digital now.

Small labs don't handle 120-film well at all (The still beleive they were
done with grandfathers collectible, I guess).
I very often get film back with spots (bad development), scratches, finger
prints etc.
I wonder if this is the same everywhere?
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 27. januar 2006 15:40
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Analog enablement


Just arrived: very nice 645n with FA 45-85/4.5! What a nice piece of pro
equipment. Too bad Pentax doesn't make something similar for K-mount... So
now my film photos will be rather only 6x4.5 ;-)
Digital shmigital ;-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





Web Page

2006-01-27 Thread Pål Jensen

I plan to set up my own web page dedicated to my photography.
I am a novice in web page design and everything associated with it. I need 
to know it all!
Any tips you may have from design, software, web page provider, selling 
images over the net... whatever..will be welcomed.


Pål 





Re: PESO - Bummer

2006-01-27 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Doug Brewer wrote:


http://www.alphoto.com/images/bummer.jpg




Hope you'll be sharing the story behind it in due course.



Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Pål Jensen


- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I wonder if this is the same everywhere?



No


Pål 





Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread Tom C

From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]


In a frank talk I once had with a Pentax rep, I found out that Pentax tells 
Pentax USA little more than Pentax tells us. He described the company 
officials as arrogant.


Joe



Oh the irony of it all!

Maybe Pentax Japan is selling all their gear domestically?

Tom C.




Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Pål Jensen wrote on 27.01.06 16:34:

 
 I don't know about that!
 I have in front of me a 645NII with the 33-55 lens. Also an LX with the 31
 Limited and the MZ-S with the 43 Limited. I'll say these cameras are
 (almost) evenly matched. If only they would make something similar in
 digital...
Both MZ-S and LX are not produced anymore. But It would be good if Pentax
could produce DSLR of such a quality.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: lens around to buy?

2006-01-27 Thread Tom C

Hah! :-)


Tom C.



From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: lens around to buy?
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:13:44 +0100

Tom,

You mean as in: Pentax users that *mostly* already own the lenses they 
want. 


:-)

Jostein

- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: lens around to buy?



From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I think a 200/2.8 is pretty exotic for the average slr buyer. I also 
believe that the *stD appeal to two kinds of buyers; 1) entry level users 
who buy kit lenses. 2) Pentax users that already own the lenses they 
want. They only use the *istD because something better isn't available. I 
believe there are very few who buys exotic Pentax glass these days.





I'll agree with you on the above with the caveat of using the word 
mostly.


Tom C.









Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread Tom C

Mark!


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That there are taxes at all is abhorrent...






Re: Re: OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-27 Thread Tom C

Mark II !


From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What have the Romans ever done for us?







Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Gasha


Oo, great.

I have 645 with FA 55/2.8.

I would like to hear about quality of zoom lens. Manual focus fixfocals 
are rather cheap, but heavy.


Gatis

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

Just arrived: very nice 645n with FA 45-85/4.5! What a nice piece of pro
equipment. Too bad Pentax doesn't make something similar for K-mount... So
now my film photos will be rather only 6x4.5 ;-)
Digital shmigital ;-)





Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix

2006-01-27 Thread Tom C



I would think that it would a request placed on Pentax Canada's website.

Tom C.







From: Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:13:00 -0500

If this is a formal Pentax Canada request, I'm surprised that they
would want these sent to a freebee gmail account.  Puts some red flags
up for me.  I would have thought that they would use the Pentax or
PentaxCanada domain email accounts.

(Course, I'm extremely cautious with respect to this kind of request
on the internet).


dk

On 1/27/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm passing this along to the list at the request of someone who works
 at Pentax Canada:

 I currently work for Pentax and we are calling out to
 pentax users for images shot with Pentax digital
 cameras. Digital SLR and point and shoots.
 Please mention what camera you used to take the photo.


 We would like to have one or two of you best images
 sent to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If there are people in your shot please think before
 you send it to us. They may not want to be in a slide
 show. These photos will not be used on our website or
 in any print ads. Only in a slide show of images at
 conventions.

 We don't need big files 500k or smaller. These will be
 used in a slide so at conventions to show images
 produced on pentax cameras.

 Thank you for your time.

 I can assure you that this is entirely legit, and although I'm not
 sure that the person wants his name passed along, he does indeed work
 for Pentax Canada.

 cheers,
 frank


 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson








Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Jostein wrote on 27.01.06 16:06:

 Eey!
 Congrats Sylwek! ;-)
Thanks Jostein, and thanks for all your wise words about 645 system :-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Analog enablement

2006-01-27 Thread Pål Jensen


- Original Message - 
From: Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I would like to hear about quality of zoom lens.


The zoom lenses are as good or better than the primes. All of the zooms 
flare less than the FA 45/2.8 lens.


Pål 





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