Re: PESO: Liftoff

2007-08-10 Thread Toine
Thanks Jostein,
No I didn't delete it. No idea why I like it (maybe for the reasons
you mentioned) and maybe because I didn't compose it or planned it.
The consensus seems to be to delete it, Pentax gallery declined it in
a record time and now I'm sure: it's printing big and going on the
wall.

On 8/8/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Toine,

 Chiming in very late. Hope you haven't deleted it yet. :-)

 I think it's a keeper for many reasons. It has a decent composition
 with the triangle between the sharp horizontal line and the escaping
 bug. It is immediately obvious what is going on, and still it is a bit
 abstract. The distinction between OOF and motion blur is notable, but
 they work together because of the good sharpness on the in-focus line.

 It has very pleasant colours, and the OOF areas are soft and nice too.

 cheers,
 Jostein

 2007/7/28, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  For this peso I really need your advice (thumbs up or down)
 
  http://leende.net/peso/20070728
 
  A total surprise. Normally I delete blurred shots but this one looks
  like a keeper.
 
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Re: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread David Mann
On Aug 10, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Christian wrote:

 I found this guy in my backyard

 http://tinyurl.com/36h4fp

 Budgerigar (Melopsittacus undulatus) native to Australia, photographed
 in Germantown, Maryland, USA He looked really tired!

I'll have to see if I can find wild budgies in Australia next  
month... perhaps this specimen had escaped from his cage?

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Re: PESO - Blues Singer

2007-08-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
You have captured some nice personality in that shot.  Nice job!

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Thursday, August 9, 2007, 5:56:06 AM, you wrote:

ft My PESO Jazz Trumpeter was of my friend Tim Hamel.  Like every jazz
ft guy I know, he plays in several bands, some jazz, some not.

ft The aforementioned photo of Tim was taken as he was playing in Laura
ft Hubert's band.  She's a wonderful Blues/Jazz singer (note I put
ft blues first) based here in Toronto.

ft I hope her sense of humour comes out in this photo:

ft http://tinyurl.com/28msse

ft 
http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrnLQbMIuBI/AiY/gXHLKIX4h6Q/s1600-h/aug_8+002.jpg

ft Comments always welcome.

ft cheers,
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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread Brendan MacRae
Okay, here are the three I entered.

The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge shot
was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter that
one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had wanted to
enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
suprise me as the composition is a little, well, all
over the place.

http://www.primelensphoto.com/fair/index.html

-Brendan


--- syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No I have not seen it yet.
 Where can I find them? Sorry, I am always a bit more
 fanatic to see
 awardwinning pictures...
 
 Syb
 
 2007/8/10, Brendan MacRae
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Brendan MacRae wrote:
  
   So, I had three prints entered in the
 photography
   competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of
 my
   landscapes got a second place in the
 Professional
   category and another got Best in Show for Pro
 Color
   Photos.
  
   Congratulations!
  
   Now show us the photos.
   So we can hate you, of course ;-)
 
  Thanks!
 
  You guys have seen them already. One is a macro
 shot
  of an orchid with water droplets the other a
 landscape
  on the Yuba river.
 
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread David Savage
On 8/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Accuracy is for the unimaginative:-)).

I'll remember that next time someone says I missed the focus.

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
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 Accuracy is for the unimaginative

Good one!

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I bought a WhiBal card because there are times when it would be  
useful to have a reliable white/gray/black reference in a test frame  
when I'm doing post processing. I never manually set a white balance  
in the camera, it's a waste of time unless you're using JPEG capture,  
and I only use RAW capture.

If I need to calibrate a camera for accuracy, a gray card isn't going  
to be much use...

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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
Very nice! I like what you do with water. The sparklink drops on the
orchid, and the quasi-frosen water in the creeks...

Deserved to be a winner!

Syb

2007/8/10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Very nice work. A well-deserved win. I remember seeing the bridge.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Okay, here are the three I entered.
 
  The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge shot
  was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter that
  one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had wanted to
  enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
  suprise me as the composition is a little, well, all
  over the place.
 
  http://www.primelensphoto.com/fair/index.html
 
  -Brendan
 
 
  --- syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   No I have not seen it yet.
   Where can I find them? Sorry, I am always a bit more
   fanatic to see
   awardwinning pictures...
  
   Syb
  
   2007/8/10, Brendan MacRae
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Brendan MacRae wrote:

 So, I had three prints entered in the
   photography
 competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of
   my
 landscapes got a second place in the
   Professional
 category and another got Best in Show for Pro
   Color
 Photos.

 Congratulations!

 Now show us the photos.
 So we can hate you, of course ;-)
   
Thanks!
   
You guys have seen them already. One is a macro
   shot
of an orchid with water droplets the other a
   landscape
on the Yuba river.
   
-Brendan
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread David J Brooks
On 8/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Roberts

 Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card



 
 I'll remember that next time someone says I missed the focus.
 
  You miss the focus sometimes???
 

 I miss my hair sometimes.

Look in a mirror, that should help.:-)

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread David Savage
On 8/11/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Roberts

 Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card



 
 I'll remember that next time someone says I missed the focus.
 
  You miss the focus sometimes???
 

 I miss my hair sometimes.
 ww

...when your trying to comb it?

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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Funny, but if I were judging I like the first one ... yuba ? ... much  
more than the orchid, with the bridge scene coming in second.

Such is the caprice of judging...

G

On Aug 10, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

 Okay, here are the three I entered.

 The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge shot
 was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter that
 one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had wanted to
 enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
 suprise me as the composition is a little, well, all
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I found that with the DS body that the metering calibration for RAW  
format capture was off by between .3-.7 EV, no matter what the  
lighting. In bright circumstances, and low ISO settings, I nearly  
always needed to add .3EV ... at ISO 400-800 and low light, tungsten  
illumination, I needed to set .7EV. The K10D does much better in this  
regard, I'm much more of the time at 0 to +.3EV.

White balance should be of no consequence, although it's possible  
that changing the white balance somehow affects the metering  
calibration ... dunno. Although it is true that imaging and metering  
sensors are more sensitive to light in the red/IR range than in the  
green/blue range, and incandescent light is shifted way into the red  
range, so maybe the adjustment to WB could affect it in that way  
somehow...

Godfrey



On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 There is one type of lighting where I found it useful to set
 the WB manually, while shooting RAW.

 While shooting in low ncandescent light,
 if I use the auto white balance, the images turn to be way  
 underexposed
 when the balance is corrected. (this is on *istDS)
 It may be possible to do exposure compensation instead, but I haven't
 tried this yet.

 I bought a WhiBal card because there are times when it would be
 useful to have a reliable white/gray/black reference in a test frame
 when I'm doing post processing. I never manually set a white balance
 in the camera, it's a waste of time unless you're using JPEG capture,
 and I only use RAW capture.

 If I need to calibrate a camera for accuracy, a gray card isn't going
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread David Savage
On 8/11/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Savage wrote:

 On 8/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Accuracy is for the unimaginative:-)).
 
 I'll remember that next time someone says I missed the focus.

 You miss the focus sometimes???

Yep.

For example portraits with the tip of the nose (or the ears) pin sharp.

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

On 8/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Accuracy is for the unimaginative:-)).

I'll remember that next time someone says I missed the focus.

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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

2007-08-10 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2007-08-10, at 13:29, P. J. Alling wrote:

 The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product.   It  
 could
 be old stock or the could still be making them.  Each distributor is
 semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think  
 will
 sell.

 http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens-- 
 smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection-- 
 Digital_35mm_telephoto
Both FA* 600/4 and FA* 300/2.8 are listed as current on Japanese  
Pentax site, just 600/4 is available only by order:
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin 
Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card



 
 The main inconvenience is that you need to do some house chores
 before that towel becomes gray. :-D
 

It's only a problem if the wife is inefficient G
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts 

Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card




I'll remember that next time someone says I missed the focus.
 
 You miss the focus sometimes???
 

I miss my hair sometimes.
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

There is one type of lighting where I found it useful to set
the WB manually, while shooting RAW.

While shooting in low ncandescent light, 
if I use the auto white balance, the images turn to be way underexposed 
when the balance is corrected. (this is on *istDS)
It may be possible to do exposure compensation instead, but I haven't
tried this yet.

Igor


Fri Aug 10 11:54:54 EDT 2007
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I bought a WhiBal card because there are times when it would be  
useful to have a reliable white/gray/black reference in a test frame  
when I'm doing post processing. I never manually set a white balance  
in the camera, it's a waste of time unless you're using JPEG capture,  
and I only use RAW capture.

If I need to calibrate a camera for accuracy, a gray card isn't going  
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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread pnstenquist
Very nice work. A well-deserved win. I remember seeing the bridge.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Okay, here are the three I entered.
 
 The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge shot
 was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter that
 one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had wanted to
 enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
 suprise me as the composition is a little, well, all
 over the place.
 
 http://www.primelensphoto.com/fair/index.html
 
 -Brendan
 
 
 --- syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No I have not seen it yet.
  Where can I find them? Sorry, I am always a bit more
  fanatic to see
  awardwinning pictures...
  
  Syb
  
  2007/8/10, Brendan MacRae
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Brendan MacRae wrote:
   
So, I had three prints entered in the
  photography
competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of
  my
landscapes got a second place in the
  Professional
category and another got Best in Show for Pro
  Color
Photos.
   
Congratulations!
   
Now show us the photos.
So we can hate you, of course ;-)
  
   Thanks!
  
   You guys have seen them already. One is a macro
  shot
   of an orchid with water droplets the other a
  landscape
   on the Yuba river.
  
   -Brendan
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Rick Womer wrote:

Mark!!

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Accuracy is
for the unimaginative:-)).
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I was just gonna say that

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Mark Roberts
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've used white mat board as well, although only when shooting cars  
 or something else that has to be color accurate. I generally just  
 adjust color temperature to my personal preference. Accuracy is for  
 the unimaginative:-)).

I use these:

http://warmcards.com/

I keep a set in my camera bag for still photography, and in my video  
camera bag for video use.  They let you tune color balance pretty  
much any way you want so you don't have to fool with it after the fact.

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread pnstenquist
I've used white mat board as well, although only when shooting cars or 
something else that has to be color accurate. I generally just adjust color 
temperature to my personal preference. Accuracy is for the unimaginative:-)).
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 William Robb wrote:
 
 The best tool I've found to date for setting white balance is a white 
 paper 
 towel. They come on rolls of a couple of hundred for a couple of 
 dollars, 
 and have many uses around the house.
 This may be an area where spending lots of money doesn't give a net 
 gain in 
 performance.
 
 I use white mat board. It's available in many different shades of 
 white, so I can use a warm, neutral or cool white balance card as 
 needed. My local art supply shops gives me scraps for free. (They don't 
 have as many additional uses as paper towels, though.)
 
 
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card




 I use white mat board. It's available in many different shades of
 white, so I can use a warm, neutral or cool white balance card as
 needed. My local art supply shops gives me scraps for free. (They don't
 have as many additional uses as paper towels, though.)

My wife was quite annoyed with me about this. I discovered how good paper 
towels were at a dog show being held in a hockey arena. I was suing the 
istD, and needed to shoot jpegs for a variety of reasons.
I needed a good WB, and was having difficulty with the cameras AWB getting 
it right. Someone had a roll of paper towels on their grooming table, so I 
grabbed one and took a reading off it, and had an very good WB as a result.
Anyway, for the next year or so, I insisted that she buy different brands to 
see if I could get a brand that worked better.
I settled on Bounty.

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Re: PESO: Skeletons

2007-08-10 Thread Rick Womer
Very haunting.  I like it.  Maybe a little lighter at
the bottom?

Rick

--- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Going though some old images I came across this one
 shot originally with a Super A on Ektachrome.  I had
 it scanned a couple of years ago to Kodak Photo CD
 but the scan was pretty ordinary - decided to see
 whether a BW conversion would be better.
 
 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
 
 
 Comments, plaudits, brickbats accepted with good
 grace (mostly)
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
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 Western Sydney Australia
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Re: CS3 vs. CS2

2007-08-10 Thread William Robb

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From: David Savage
Subject: Re: CS3 vs. CS2


 At 09:29 AM 10/08/2007, William Robb wrote:
If you know what I've missed, I would be most happy to know, as I am quite
certain this is not how Adobe intended the thing to work.
Thanks

 This might help.

 Check your graphics card settings. Somewhere there should be an option to
 remember windows locations.

 I used to have no end of problems with this at work  Autocads toolbars.



Thanks Dave. I'm not sure what I did, but I went into the NVidea desktop 
manager and changed it to it's default setting, and then back to how I had 
it set up in the first place and it's all good now.

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Re: PESO: Oops

2007-08-10 Thread Toralf Lund

 Sometimes one goes through one's photos (or a box of
 slides, in the old days) and wonders How did THAT get
 in there??

 This is one of those.  There seems to be some
 pavement, but I have no idea what the blue thing is. 
 Still, it appeals to me.

 Comments welcome!
Yes, it's an interesting shot.

But didn't you just say that you were struggling to find a strange 
picture???

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

The best tool I've found to date for setting white balance is a white 
paper 
towel. They come on rolls of a couple of hundred for a couple of 
dollars, 
and have many uses around the house.
This may be an area where spending lots of money doesn't give a net 
gain in 
performance.

I use white mat board. It's available in many different shades of 
white, so I can use a warm, neutral or cool white balance card as 
needed. My local art supply shops gives me scraps for free. (They don't 
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: John Whittingham
Subject: Recommendations for digital grey card


 I'm looking for recommendations for a good digital grey card, mainly for
 setting white balance when working with RAW files. I've come across this 
 one
 and would welcome opinions and recommendations:

 http://www.morco.uk.com/latest/grey_card.htm

 http://www.photo-software.com/greycard.htm

 BTW I'm not looking at spending a fortune 9)


The best tool I've found to date for setting white balance is a white paper 
towel. They come on rolls of a couple of hundred for a couple of dollars, 
and have many uses around the house.
This may be an area where spending lots of money doesn't give a net gain in 
performance.

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I ordered a WhiBal card from
http://www.rawworkflow.com
just the other day.

Godfrey

On Aug 10, 2007, at 12:46 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

 I'm looking for recommendations for a good digital grey card,  
 mainly for
 setting white balance when working with RAW files. I've come across  
 this one
 and would welcome opinions and recommendations:

 http://www.morco.uk.com/latest/grey_card.htm

 http://www.photo-software.com/greycard.htm

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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

2007-08-10 Thread Toralf Lund
AlunFoto wrote:
 Strange... In the description it says:

 This item is manufactured at the time of order.
 Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured.
 The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks.

 Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that
 Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the
 catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it?
   
Can't be bothered to check again right now, but last time I looked at 
the Pentax Japan website, I found a separate list of products that would 
be manufactured on order, and I believe this lens was on it. Along with 
a number of others that are generally thought to be discontinued...

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Re: August PUG is open [off list]

2007-08-10 Thread Scott Loveless
After a quick glance at my inbox, I was starting to worry.  That's a lot 
of people to contact me off list all at once.  g

As for the request, I'm working on it.  Just not sure how it's going to 
be implemented yet.

Thanks for all the feedback on the gallery.  Keep it coming.

Rick Womer wrote:
 Okay, okay, so make it on list!

 Sorry Scott!

 Rick

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 Whoops :-)

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card



 White balance should be of no consequence, although it's possible
 that changing the white balance somehow affects the metering
 calibration ... dunno. Although it is true that imaging and metering
 sensors are more sensitive to light in the red/IR range than in the
 green/blue range, and incandescent light is shifted way into the red
 range, so maybe the adjustment to WB could affect it in that way
 somehow...

I've always been a little vague about precisely what white balance is doing, 
I've alway presumed that it is adjusting the gain of the colour receptors. 
If so, is it possible that the exposure variance could be generated by the 
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

It looks like I am getting a very reasonable exposure with my DS
in a daylight setting.
In lower (not incandescent) light it tends to be underexposed 
by ~0.3-0.7 EV, as you said.
I wonder if this was somehow by design.
I remember that they did it in Nikon D100, so that the 
photos were underexposed by 0.5 or 1 EV, to avoid burning the highlights. 

I tend to agree with you on the hypothesis how the WB is related
to metering with incandescent light.

Igor


Fri Aug 10 13:31:45 EDT 2007
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I found that with the DS body that the metering calibration for RAW  
format capture was off by between .3-.7 EV, no matter what the  
lighting. In bright circumstances, and low ISO settings, I nearly  
always needed to add .3EV ... at ISO 400-800 and low light, tungsten  
illumination, I needed to set .7EV. The K10D does much better in this  
regard, I'm much more of the time at 0 to +.3EV.

White balance should be of no consequence, although it's possible  
that changing the white balance somehow affects the metering  
calibration ... dunno. Although it is true that imaging and metering  
sensors are more sensitive to light in the red/IR range than in the  
green/blue range, and incandescent light is shifted way into the red  
range, so maybe the adjustment to WB could affect it in that way  
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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread David J Brooks
Great shots.

Dave

On 8/10/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, here are the three I entered.

 The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge shot
 was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter that
 one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had wanted to
 enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
 suprise me as the composition is a little, well, all
 over the place.

 http://www.primelensphoto.com/fair/index.html

 -Brendan


 --- syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  No I have not seen it yet.
  Where can I find them? Sorry, I am always a bit more
  fanatic to see
  awardwinning pictures...
 
  Syb
 
  2007/8/10, Brendan MacRae
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Brendan MacRae wrote:
   
So, I had three prints entered in the
  photography
competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of
  my
landscapes got a second place in the
  Professional
category and another got Best in Show for Pro
  Color
Photos.
   
Congratulations!
   
Now show us the photos.
So we can hate you, of course ;-)
  
   Thanks!
  
   You guys have seen them already. One is a macro
  shot
   of an orchid with water droplets the other a
  landscape
   on the Yuba river.
  
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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread Toine
First time I see the photos. Wow!

On 8/10/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, here are the three I entered.

 The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge shot
 was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter that
 one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had wanted to
 enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
 suprise me as the composition is a little, well, all
 over the place.

 http://www.primelensphoto.com/fair/index.html

 -Brendan


 --- syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  No I have not seen it yet.
  Where can I find them? Sorry, I am always a bit more
  fanatic to see
  awardwinning pictures...
 
  Syb
 
  2007/8/10, Brendan MacRae
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Brendan MacRae wrote:
   
So, I had three prints entered in the
  photography
competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of
  my
landscapes got a second place in the
  Professional
category and another got Best in Show for Pro
  Color
Photos.
   
Congratulations!
   
Now show us the photos.
So we can hate you, of course ;-)
  
   Thanks!
  
   You guys have seen them already. One is a macro
  shot
   of an orchid with water droplets the other a
  landscape
   on the Yuba river.
  
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 11:41:01AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card
 
 
 
  White balance should be of no consequence, although it's possible
  that changing the white balance somehow affects the metering
  calibration ... dunno. Although it is true that imaging and metering
  sensors are more sensitive to light in the red/IR range than in the
  green/blue range, and incandescent light is shifted way into the red
  range, so maybe the adjustment to WB could affect it in that way
  somehow...
 
 I've always been a little vague about precisely what white balance is doing, 
 I've alway presumed that it is adjusting the gain of the colour receptors. 
 If so, is it possible that the exposure variance could be generated by the 
 voltage multiplier, not the exposure system itself?
 
 William Robb 

What white balance does depends on the design of the circuitry. On most
digital cameras white balance has absolutely no effect on raw capture.
On some sensors, though (including the one Nikon use in the D2 models,
if memory serves) white balance does exactly what you surmise, affecting
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Recommendations for digital grey card


 I've used white mat board as well, although only when shooting cars or 
 something else that has to be color accurate. I generally just adjust 
 color temperature to my personal preference. Accuracy is for the 
 unimaginative:-)).

If you have to shoot jpegs, accuracy is much more important, although less 
so now with the new RAW converter.
I appreciate the sentiment though, if I'm shooting RAW I leave usually the 
WB on auto and sort it out later.

Something to consider, I was waxing on to the guy who owns the studio I help 
out at about the accuracy of AWB, so he went out and tried some tests. What 
he found was that on an individual image basis, it works fine, but if one is 
shooting an entire wedding (for example) with AWB, then the pictures will 
have a slightly different white balance from set up to set up, and the album 
will have a disjointed look, much like if you had used several different 
film brands for the job. He sets his WB to 5000K, locks it in and goes from 
there.

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Re: Yea for me!

2007-08-10 Thread David J Brooks
Nor have i seen them, or if i did i forgot

Congrats BTW


Dave

On 8/9/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
  So, I had three prints entered in the photography
  competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of my
  landscapes got a second place in the Professional
  category and another got Best in Show for Pro Color
  Photos.
 
  Congratulations!
 
  Now show us the photos.
  So we can hate you, of course ;-)

 Thanks!

 You guys have seen them already. One is a macro shot
 of an orchid with water droplets the other a landscape
 on the Yuba river.

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RE: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread Bob W
you've just spoiled my weekend - I feel ill.

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 Subject: Re: PESO - Accidental
 
 Har! But not quite what I meant.
 
 Think, Is that a budgie in your swim trunks or are you just 
 happy to see me?:
 
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_
 article_id=474390in_page_id=1879
 
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:41 AM, William Robb wrote:

 White balance should be of no consequence, although it's possible
 that changing the white balance somehow affects the metering
 calibration ... dunno. Although it is true that imaging and metering
 sensors are more sensitive to light in the red/IR range than in the
 green/blue range, and incandescent light is shifted way into the red
 range, so maybe the adjustment to WB could affect it in that way
 somehow...

 I've always been a little vague about precisely what white balance  
 is doing,
 I've alway presumed that it is adjusting the gain of the colour  
 receptors.
 If so, is it possible that the exposure variance could be generated  
 by the
 voltage multiplier, not the exposure system itself?

The white balance setting isn't necessarily touching the hardware at  
all. In most cameras, it is an adjustment to the image processing  
parameters used to convert the linear gamma, bayer-matrix RAW sensor  
data to an RGB channeled, gamma corrected representation. In some  
cameras, it *might* touch the data in the pre-RAW processing that  
happens between the sensor and the A-D converter, but I have seen no  
evidence that this is the case in the *ist DS body, and little to  
indicate that it in the K10D body either.

The main linkage between white balance and exposure is likely in a  
connection between the camera's exposure control software and those  
image processing software parameters. The DS body's metering  
calibration was definitely tuned to produce good results for the  
standard default settings on the Auto Picture mode ... bright color  
setting, JPEG capture, etc. Changing to RAW capture, the metering  
calibration does not change even though the exposure requirements of  
a RAW capture are quite different due to the wider dynamic range and  
gamut possible.

Setting the White Balance in RAW capture mode affects the JPEG  
preview and thumbnail, the histogram and saturation blinkies ... it  
might also affect the metering calibration. By Igor's experience, I'd  
say this last is possibly true, but I'd have to do some testing to  
say for sure.

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PESO 2007 - 33f - GDG

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
lol ... yes, I'm working on this set and there are a *lot* of  
exposures to go through...  :-)

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/33f.htm

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 10, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 This makes good sense to me.
 If it is correct, it brings up an idea (here goes a patent, but oh,
 well..): camera shooting modes or options (e.g. one of the green  
 modes,
 or via a separate wheel/switch)
 such as tungsten, low light, etc. - which in addition to
 changing the WB also enable a different metering calibration.

I've long been an advocate that camera manufacturers should include  
the capability for user settable metering calibration defaults, and  
of course easy recovery to the factory calibrated default settings.  
It would save me having to remember on each camera which tweak of the  
settings I need on average, and make a useful gain in adjustment  
range if I didn't have to compensate for my personal default  
compensation.

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Re: CS3 vs. CS2

2007-08-10 Thread graywolf
If you guys are having problems with multiple monitors, Windows has to be set 
to use them properly. Without the change you get two identical displays, with 
it you get the desktop across the monitors.  Unfortunately I can not remember 
how to do that off the top of my head. And you can do a google as easily as I. 
CS2 does remember where you left the windows last session.

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AlunFoto wrote:
 I was just about to recommend the same as David. We're installing dual
 screens in many people's offices at work these days, using different
 brands of cards for AGP and PCI-e, and the issue seem to be the same
 for all. We've had the same issue in reverse before, btw, with people
 using laptop computers and extending their screen desktop to a desktop
 screen when connected to a port replicator. They had some difficulty
 retrieving their application windows when working away from their
 office...:-)
 
 Cheers,
 Jostein
 
 2007/8/10, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 At 09:29 AM 10/08/2007, William Robb wrote:
 If you know what I've missed, I would be most happy to know, as I am quite
 certain this is not how Adobe intended the thing to work.
 Thanks
 This might help.

 Check your graphics card settings. Somewhere there should be an option to
 remember windows locations.

 I used to have no end of problems with this at work  Autocads toolbars.

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Re: PESO: Liftoff

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
UP!
Nice shot!

Syb

2007/8/10, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks Jostein,
 No I didn't delete it. No idea why I like it (maybe for the reasons
 you mentioned) and maybe because I didn't compose it or planned it.
 The consensus seems to be to delete it, Pentax gallery declined it in
 a record time and now I'm sure: it's printing big and going on the
 wall.

 On 8/8/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Toine,
 
  Chiming in very late. Hope you haven't deleted it yet. :-)
 
  I think it's a keeper for many reasons. It has a decent composition
  with the triangle between the sharp horizontal line and the escaping
  bug. It is immediately obvious what is going on, and still it is a bit
  abstract. The distinction between OOF and motion blur is notable, but
  they work together because of the good sharpness on the in-focus line.
 
  It has very pleasant colours, and the OOF areas are soft and nice too.
 
  cheers,
  Jostein
 
  2007/7/28, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   For this peso I really need your advice (thumbs up or down)
  
   http://leende.net/peso/20070728
  
   A total surprise. Normally I delete blurred shots but this one looks
   like a keeper.
  
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Re: New recycled PESO

2007-08-10 Thread Rick Womer
I like it--but I'm a sucker for old European streets! 
Reminds me of this one of mine, but yours has a more
advanced parallel line deficiency:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5269004

Rick

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 I've shown this photo before (I think), but this is
 a new BW 
 conversion and crop:
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm
 
 Taken with ist-D and a 200mm f/2.0 on my primes
 only bicycle tour of 
 France a couple of years ago. This is a back street
 in the city of 
 Tours. One of my few attempts at street
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Re: Oops

2007-08-10 Thread Rick Womer
Chicago recreated in miniature on an Oxford street! 
It's a miracle!

--- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks like an aerial view of Chicago, with Lake
 Michigan to the right. ;+]
 
 Kenneth Waller
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 Subject: PESO: Oops
 
 
  Sometimes one goes through one's photos (or a box
 of
  slides, in the old days) and wonders How did THAT
 get
  in there??
  
  This is one of those.  There seems to be some
  pavement, but I have no idea what the blue thing
 is. 
  Still, it appeals to me.
  
  Comments welcome!
  
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Re: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
Yeah, that's it!
He's trained as a courier to smuggle jewelry anklets from Australia to USA. :-)

If Christian had caught the critter, it (and perhaps the owner) could
probably have been identified by the ring.

Jostein
who also had a budgie once.

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 At 03:36 PM 10/08/2007, David Mann wrote:
 I'll have to see if I can find wild budgies in Australia next
 month... perhaps this specimen had escaped from his cage?

 Just so long as there's no smuggling involved.

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RE: what flash unit for the K10D?

2007-08-10 Thread Henk Terhell
Thanks, I'll remain patient for some more months and wait on the Metz 58
AF-1. Also thanks for the information that Sigma has a good contender.

Henk

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Re: PESO 2007 - 33f - GDG

2007-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

Godfrey,

When I just looked at the image, the first what caught my eye
was the out-of-focus back of the chair in front.
It was too big in the image, not allowing to concentrate on
anything in the image. This effect maybe because this object
is close to the 1/3 vertical line.
Presence of the well-in-focus chair and bag right behind it 
makes this disturbing impression stronger.

I suspect that cutting some 100 pixels (on 794x614) on the left would
get rid of this dominance, while keeping the out-of-focus object
in the photo. (the cut line would cut out about 1/2 of the area
of the bright part of the bag on the chair behind, going slightly
right of the vertical window frame, or maybe through that window frame.)

Igor



Fri Aug 10 15:25:57 EDT 2007
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

lol ... yes, I'm working on this set and there are a *lot* of  
exposures to go through...  :-)

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/33f.htm

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Re: CS3 vs. CS2

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
I went straight from CS to CS3, so it's not exactly what you're asking
for. However I find CS3 to work smoother than CS, and much appreciate
the new rawfile converter and the way Bridge works in CS3.

However, with the advent of more sophisticated rawfile converters, I
must say I use Photoshop very rarely at all.

With my current workflow, ThumbsPlus and the converters (PhaseOne and
LightZone, and on a rare occasion CS3) is all I need for everything
but printing.

Jostein

2007/8/10, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello All,

 If you have Photoshop CS3, what features and improvements do you
 enjoy over CS2 while working with photos?

 Thank you,

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Re: CS3 vs. CS2

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
I was just about to recommend the same as David. We're installing dual
screens in many people's offices at work these days, using different
brands of cards for AGP and PCI-e, and the issue seem to be the same
for all. We've had the same issue in reverse before, btw, with people
using laptop computers and extending their screen desktop to a desktop
screen when connected to a port replicator. They had some difficulty
retrieving their application windows when working away from their
office...:-)

Cheers,
Jostein

2007/8/10, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 At 09:29 AM 10/08/2007, William Robb wrote:
 If you know what I've missed, I would be most happy to know, as I am quite
 certain this is not how Adobe intended the thing to work.
 Thanks

 This might help.

 Check your graphics card settings. Somewhere there should be an option to
 remember windows locations.

 I used to have no end of problems with this at work  Autocads toolbars.

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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
Strange... In the description it says:

This item is manufactured at the time of order.
Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured.
The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks.

Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that
Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the
catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it?

Jostein

2007/8/9, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing.

 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget

 Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of
 images did you produce?

 Cheers.
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Re: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread David Savage
At 03:36 PM 10/08/2007, David Mann wrote:
I'll have to see if I can find wild budgies in Australia next
month... perhaps this specimen had escaped from his cage?

Just so long as there's no smuggling involved.

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Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread John Whittingham
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FS Friday

2007-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Dare I sell a dark side lens here???

Here is what it is:

Canon ultrasonic zoom lens ef 28-105 mm 1:4-5.6 USM   58mm thread for 
filters

I've hardly used it (only had the Canon 35mm since the end of November)

It is very light weight - I replaced it with the big zoom one with image 
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Re: PESO: BigBugHug

2007-08-10 Thread Toine
Nice bugs and capture. Macro and 2x TC never tried that combo. Maybe I
get a Raynox 250 which should work nicely (I haven't seen any 100%
crops yet).


On 8/10/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://fotodag.fotopic.net/p43965037.html

 It's not the bugs that are big; but the hug is! They gave me plenty of
 time to switch lenses (I was shooting some cows with a 300mm
 Supertakumar/F4 and 2xtc when they passed. I need my macro lens
 NOW!) and then to shoot them. I was finished way before they were!

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Re: PESO 2007 - 33f - GDG

2007-08-10 Thread Fernando
Hi Godfrey

I agree with Igor, the chair bothers me and is distracting,
nevertheless, this is the one of you coffee series that I like the
more so far. Like the tight crop on her face.

Cheers,

Fernando

On 8/10/07, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Godfrey,

 When I just looked at the image, the first what caught my eye
 was the out-of-focus back of the chair in front.
 It was too big in the image, not allowing to concentrate on
 anything in the image. This effect maybe because this object
 is close to the 1/3 vertical line.
 Presence of the well-in-focus chair and bag right behind it
 makes this disturbing impression stronger.

 I suspect that cutting some 100 pixels (on 794x614) on the left would
 get rid of this dominance, while keeping the out-of-focus object
 in the photo. (the cut line would cut out about 1/2 of the area
 of the bright part of the bag on the chair behind, going slightly
 right of the vertical window frame, or maybe through that window frame.)

 Igor



 Fri Aug 10 15:25:57 EDT 2007
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 lol ... yes, I'm working on this set and there are a *lot* of
 exposures to go through...  :-)

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/33f.htm

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Re: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/08/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this guy in my backyard

 http://tinyurl.com/36h4fp

 Budgerigar (Melopsittacus undulatus) native to Australia, photographed
 in Germantown, Maryland, USA He looked really tired!

Cool, I had a Budgie like that when I was a kid, she could talk a little too.

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
Okay so I got a cancelled meeting @ work and allowed 15 minutes for a search.

The very first mention of PESO in the archives is from 12. May 2004,
and refers to a reply by Frank to a PESO posted by David Nelson. The
original post by David is not in the archives. IIRC, we had some
serious trouble with the archiving that spring, so the database at
mail-archive.com may very well be incomplete for the period in
question.

http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg179489.html

So either David is the culprit, or the origin is lost from the archive. :-)

Jostein

2007/8/9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Too much trouble for me (searching  archives). Shel could have introduced
 PESOs at the same time he introduced PAWs.  But I have a vague memory
 someone on list came up with. OTOH, I could be totally  wrong. It could have
 been GESO that was coined by someone on list.


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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/08/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay so I got a cancelled meeting @ work and allowed 15 minutes for a search.

 The very first mention of PESO in the archives is from 12. May 2004,
 and refers to a reply by Frank to a PESO posted by David Nelson. The
 original post by David is not in the archives. IIRC, we had some
 serious trouble with the archiving that spring, so the database at
 mail-archive.com may very well be incomplete for the period in
 question.

 http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg179489.html

 So either David is the culprit, or the origin is lost from the archive. :-)

Maybe holes in the archive (from my personal archives):

From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:PAW? more like PESO
Date sent:  Mon, 3 May 2004 21:39:03 -0400

Picture Every So Often is more my speed.  Getting a frame I want to show you
guys every WEEK? Not likely.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/140051795etXCuT

Catching rain drops (I know, you can't see any...) last Saturday at the
Walter Mitty Historic Sports Car Races.

Cory
only shot a little since it was raining.


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Re: PESO: BigBugHug

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
Tell us: what happened when you opened this thing?

Syb

2007/8/10, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 You are seriously bugged down! :-)

 .. but you should've warned the viewers (in the US)
 that it was not office-friendly.  :-)

 Thanks for the idea of the combination macro+2x TC.


 Igor


 Fri Aug 10 14:20:44 EDT 2007
 syb vis wrote:

 On my website
 http://fotodag.fotopic.net/c1337958.html
 you will find more successful shots with macro and 2x teleconverter.
 It turned my 1:1 macro into a 2:1 !

 Good luck,
 Syb


 
  On 8/10/07, syb vis fotosyb at gmail.com wrote:
   http://fotodag.fotopic.net/p43965037.html
  
   It's not the bugs that are big; but the hug is! They gave me plenty of
   time to switch lenses (I was shooting some cows with a 300mm
   Supertakumar/F4 and 2xtc when they passed. I need my macro lens
   NOW!) and then to shoot them. I was finished way before they were!
  

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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread Brendan MacRae
Thanks for all the kind words everybody.

-Brendan
--- Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First time I see the photos. Wow!
 
 On 8/10/07, Brendan MacRae
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Okay, here are the three I entered.
 
  The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge
 shot
  was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter
 that
  one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had
 wanted to
  enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
  suprise me as the composition is a little, well,
 all
  over the place.
 
  http://www.primelensphoto.com/fair/index.html
 
  -Brendan
 
 
  --- syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   No I have not seen it yet.
   Where can I find them? Sorry, I am always a bit
 more
   fanatic to see
   awardwinning pictures...
  
   Syb
  
   2007/8/10, Brendan MacRae
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--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Brendan MacRae wrote:

 So, I had three prints entered in the
   photography
 competition at the Nevada County Fair. One
 of
   my
 landscapes got a second place in the
   Professional
 category and another got Best in Show for
 Pro
   Color
 Photos.

 Congratulations!

 Now show us the photos.
 So we can hate you, of course ;-)
   
Thanks!
   
You guys have seen them already. One is a
 macro
   shot
of an orchid with water droplets the other a
   landscape
on the Yuba river.
   
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Re: Yea for me! (here are the entries)

2007-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Brendan MacRae wrote:

Okay, here are the three I entered.

The orchid got the Best in Show award. The bridge shot
was a last minute add. I wasn't going to enter that
one initially as I had a b/w landscape I had wanted to
enter in its place. It didn't place which doesn't
suprise me as the composition is a little, well, all
over the place.

http://www.primelensphoto.com/fair/index.html

-Brendan
  


Thanks for showing them, Brendan -- after looking at them I remembered 
them :)

the orchid shot is gorgeous - good going!
(the other two aren't as strong, but you knew that )

ann


--- syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

No I have not seen it yet.
Where can I find them? Sorry, I am always a bit more
fanatic to see
awardwinning pictures...

Syb

2007/8/10, Brendan MacRae
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--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Brendan MacRae wrote:



So, I had three prints entered in the
  

photography


competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of
  

my


landscapes got a second place in the
  

Professional


category and another got Best in Show for Pro
  

Color


Photos.
  

Congratulations!

Now show us the photos.
So we can hate you, of course ;-)


Thanks!

You guys have seen them already. One is a macro
  

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Re: PESO: BigBugHug

2007-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

The bug jumped at me, and then tried to invade my computer,
but the antivirus caught it quickly and smashed it down before 
the morality police and bystanders could say anything.

Just kidding.

I was prepared for it long time ago:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/CentralCoastCA/IMGP3563sm1.jpg

Igor


Fri Aug 10 16:14:14 EDT 2007
syb vis wrote:


Tell us: what happened when you opened this thing?

Syb

2007/8/10, Igor Roshchin:

 You are seriously bugged down! :-)

 .. but you should've warned the viewers (in the US)
 that it was not office-friendly.  :-)

 Thanks for the idea of the combination macro+2x TC.


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PESO - Guinness Time

2007-08-10 Thread Adam Maas
Shot this down around St Lawrence Market in Toronto, I've been exploring some 
of the alleyways there looking for something new to shoot.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/1067515190/

or a direct link to a large JPEG:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1097/1067515190_6097305043_b.jpg


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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

Fri Aug 10 10:09:37 EDT 2007
William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Whittingham
 Subject: Recommendations for digital grey card
 
 
  I'm looking for recommendations for a good digital grey card, mainly for
  setting white balance when working with RAW files. I've come across this 
  one
  and would welcome opinions and recommendations:
 
  http://www.morco.uk.com/latest/grey_card.htm
 
  http://www.photo-software.com/greycard.htm
 
  BTW I'm not looking at spending a fortune 9)
 
 
 The best tool I've found to date for setting white balance is a white paper 
 towel. They come on rolls of a couple of hundred for a couple of dollars, 
 and have many uses around the house.
 This may be an area where spending lots of money doesn't give a net gain in 
 performance.
 

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Re: CS3 vs. CS2

2007-08-10 Thread David Savage
On 8/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Dave. I'm not sure what I did, but I went into the NVidea desktop
 manager and changed it to it's default setting, and then back to how I had
 it set up in the first place and it's all good now.

Excellent.

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Re: Digital projectors

2007-08-10 Thread mike wilson

 
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 Subject: Digital projectors
 
 OK, folks I am about to assist a friend in making the leap to a  
 digital projector for powerpoint business presentations.  I have no  
 doubt I can figure out how to hook one up and make it work using the  
 IB.  But he also needs advice on what to buy, and I don't have a  
 clue. He doesn't have a lot of money, so we're talking below $ 1,000  
 in price, way below if possible.  A friend recommended the Epson 76C,  
 and it looks like those can be had for just under $ 600.
 
 How many here own such projectors?  Are there specific pitfalls to  
 look for in picking one over another?
 Brands to avoid?

Having just gone through this process, it strikes me that the situation is 
somewhat akin to buying a printer.  Projectors that are quite cheap to buy have 
some very expensive consumables - the consumables being bulbs.  Normal price 
for a cheap bulb, retail, would be about one quarter to one third of the price 
of the projector.  An average life would be 250hours.  It's a factor that needs 
to be taken into consideration if the projector will be used a lot.

Secondly, many bulbs are mercury discharge lamps.  These are prone to failing 
catastrophically, releasing toxic fumes into the room.  Buried in the manual 
will be useful phrases like Do not breathe the vapour. Evacuate the room 
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PAW 2007 - 34 - GDG

2007-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Moving on a different theme for a little bit, this from a series of  
shoots I did on an assignment recently ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/34.htm

Comments and critique always appreciated. Be careful with fire.

enjoy,
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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

2007-08-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/08/09 Thu PM 08:31:02 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
 
 Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing.
 
 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget
 
 Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of
 images did you produce?


I've used one at an airshow.  It was very good.  This is about 2/3rds of new 
price here but I still couldn't afford to buy one. 

Pix here:
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/pdml/index.html


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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Rick Womer
Mark!!

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Re: Recommendations for digital grey card

2007-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

Fri Aug 10 14:25:30 EDT 2007
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:41 AM, William Robb wrote:
 
  White balance should be of no consequence, although it's possible
  that changing the white balance somehow affects the metering
  calibration ... dunno. Although it is true that imaging and metering
  sensors are more sensitive to light in the red/IR range than in the
  green/blue range, and incandescent light is shifted way into the red
  range, so maybe the adjustment to WB could affect it in that way
  somehow...
 
  I've always been a little vague about precisely what white balance  
  is doing,
  I've alway presumed that it is adjusting the gain of the colour  
  receptors.
  If so, is it possible that the exposure variance could be generated  
  by the
  voltage multiplier, not the exposure system itself?
 
 The white balance setting isn't necessarily touching the hardware at  
 all. In most cameras, it is an adjustment to the image processing  
 parameters used to convert the linear gamma, bayer-matrix RAW sensor  
 data to an RGB channeled, gamma corrected representation. In some  
 cameras, it *might* touch the data in the pre-RAW processing that  
 happens between the sensor and the A-D converter, but I have seen no  
 evidence that this is the case in the *ist DS body, and little to  
 indicate that it in the K10D body either.
 
 The main linkage between white balance and exposure is likely in a  
 connection between the camera's exposure control software and those  
 image processing software parameters. The DS body's metering  
 calibration was definitely tuned to produce good results for the  
 standard default settings on the Auto Picture mode ... bright color  
 setting, JPEG capture, etc. Changing to RAW capture, the metering  
 calibration does not change even though the exposure requirements of  
 a RAW capture are quite different due to the wider dynamic range and  
 gamut possible.
 
 Setting the White Balance in RAW capture mode affects the JPEG  
 preview and thumbnail, the histogram and saturation blinkies ... it  
 might also affect the metering calibration. By Igor's experience, I'd  
 say this last is possibly true, but I'd have to do some testing to  
 say for sure.
 

This makes good sense to me.
If it is correct, it brings up an idea (here goes a patent, but oh,
well..): camera shooting modes or options (e.g. one of the green modes,
or via a separate wheel/switch)
such as tungsten, low light, etc. - which in addition to
changing the WB also enable a different metering calibration.

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Re: PESO: BigBugHug

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
2007/8/10, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nice bugs and capture. Macro and 2x TC never tried that combo.

Thanks! And you really should. I am very glad I read about the
combination somewhere... wasn't it on this list?

On my website
http://fotodag.fotopic.net/c1337958.html
you will find more successful shots with macro and 2x teleconverter.
It turned my 1:1 macro into a 2:1 !

Good luck,
Syb


2007/8/10, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nice bugs and capture. Macro and 2x TC never tried that combo. Maybe I
 get a Raynox 250 which should work nicely (I haven't seen any 100%
 crops yet).


 On 8/10/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://fotodag.fotopic.net/p43965037.html
 
  It's not the bugs that are big; but the hug is! They gave me plenty of
  time to switch lenses (I was shooting some cows with a 300mm
  Supertakumar/F4 and 2xtc when they passed. I need my macro lens
  NOW!) and then to shoot them. I was finished way before they were!
 
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Re: Yea for me!

2007-08-10 Thread Fernando
Belated congrats from me ;-)

On 8/9/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, I had three prints entered in the photography
 competition at the Nevada County Fair. One of my
 landscapes got a second place in the Professional
 category and another got Best in Show for Pro Color
 Photos.

 This is the first time I've ever displayed my work
 outside of circles of friends, the pdml, and my
 website.

 Overall I would say it was a fun experience. There was
 some good work being exhibited (and some so not so
 good stuff, too). I was a bit disappointed that I
 didn't get my printer dialed for b/w in time for this
 competition. I had a b/w landscape that I had wanted
 to enter but that will have to wait for the next show.

 PS - Kudos again to David Miller of ColorVision who
 helped check my profile for the Epson Luster paper. I
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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
With price considered, I wouldn't stockpile 600mm/4 even if I thought
there was a small market, if delivery time is 2 weeks like the auction
text claims. OTOH, lenses like the SMC 500/4.5 were made to order for
maybe a decade after it was officially denounced.

Jostein

2007/8/10, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product.   It could
 be old stock or the could still be making them.  Each distributor is
 semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will
 sell.

 http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto

 or tinyurl for the wrapped

 http://tinyurl.com/otswy

 AlunFoto wrote:
  Strange... In the description it says:
 
  This item is manufactured at the time of order.
  Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured.
  The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks.
 
  Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that
  Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the
  catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it?
 
  Jostein
 
  2007/8/9, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing.
 
  http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget
 
  Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of
  images did you produce?
 
  Cheers.
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PESO: BigBugHug

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
http://fotodag.fotopic.net/p43965037.html

It's not the bugs that are big; but the hug is! They gave me plenty of
time to switch lenses (I was shooting some cows with a 300mm
Supertakumar/F4 and 2xtc when they passed. I need my macro lens
NOW!) and then to shoot them. I was finished way before they were!

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Re: PESO: BigBugHug

2007-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

You are seriously bugged down! :-)

.. but you should've warned the viewers (in the US) 
that it was not office-friendly.  :-)

Thanks for the idea of the combination macro+2x TC.


Igor


Fri Aug 10 14:20:44 EDT 2007
syb vis wrote:

On my website
http://fotodag.fotopic.net/c1337958.html
you will find more successful shots with macro and 2x teleconverter.
It turned my 1:1 macro into a 2:1 !

Good luck,
Syb



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  http://fotodag.fotopic.net/p43965037.html
 
  It's not the bugs that are big; but the hug is! They gave me plenty of
  time to switch lenses (I was shooting some cows with a 300mm
  Supertakumar/F4 and 2xtc when they passed. I need my macro lens
  NOW!) and then to shoot them. I was finished way before they were!
 

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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

2007-08-10 Thread P. J. Alling
The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product.   It could 
be old stock or the could still be making them.  Each distributor is 
semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will 
sell.

http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto

or tinyurl for the wrapped

http://tinyurl.com/otswy

AlunFoto wrote:
 Strange... In the description it says:

 This item is manufactured at the time of order.
 Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured.
 The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks.

 Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that
 Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the
 catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it?

 Jostein

 2007/8/9, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing.

 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget

 Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of
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Re: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread David Savage
Har! But not quite what I meant.

Think, Is that a budgie in your swim trunks or are you just happy to see me?:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=474390in_page_id=1879

:-D

Cheers,

Dave

On 8/10/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, that's it!
 He's trained as a courier to smuggle jewelry anklets from Australia to USA. 
 :-)

 If Christian had caught the critter, it (and perhaps the owner) could
 probably have been identified by the ring.

 Jostein
 who also had a budgie once.

 2007/8/10, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  At 03:36 PM 10/08/2007, David Mann wrote:
  I'll have to see if I can find wild budgies in Australia next
  month... perhaps this specimen had escaped from his cage?
 
  Just so long as there's no smuggling involved.
 
  shudder
 
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Re: what flash unit for the K10D?

2007-08-10 Thread David J Brooks
On 8/9/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark, I've been putting off using my 2 year old Sigma DG Super on my K10D,
 thinking it had to be updated.
 How old is your unit?
 I understand there is an update available from Sigma but haven't sent mine
 in yet.
 Is wireless usage the only feature you're aware of that's missing when used
 on the K10D?

I had checked with the Sigma delaer in the Toronto area, back in June,
and they were unaware of any wireless upgrade. They were going to
check at Sigma, but i never heard back.
I'm getting the 360 anyway.

Dave

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  Henk Terhell wrote:
 
 Having waited half a year for a new Metz flash unit having P-TTL, the
 announced dedicated Mecablitz 58 AF-1 with USB is not offered anywhere
 around here. The Metz SCA system is no longer useful for P-TTL. My
 current Metz TTL unit, which I have to use in A-mode on the K10D, gives
 many miss hits and is not very useful for fill-in flash. Sigma doesn't
 show the K10D P-TTL on their lists.
 
  The lists must be outdated. I use the Sigma EF500 DG Super with my K10D
  with excellent results. I believe the latest versions even support
  off-camera wireless operation, though I haven't looked into getting
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Re: PESO (no title)

2007-08-10 Thread Jack Davis
Air kisses. (?)
I can see why you're stuck on it.
Stick with it.

Jack
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 Just recently, I snapped this live shot:
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/CampHollywood/IMGP7595.jpg
 For some reason I am stuck on it: something grabs my attention,
 but I don't know what to make out of it. 
 I cannot even come up with a title for it.
 
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Re: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
2007/8/10, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Har! But not quite what I meant.

 Think, Is that a budgie in your swim trunks or are you just happy to see 
 me?:

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=474390in_page_id=1879

 :-D

Hehehe!
Cucumber news.

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Re: PESO: Skeletons

2007-08-10 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Very haunting.  I like it.  Maybe a little lighter at
 the bottom?
 


Thanks Rick.

Yes, lighter at the bottom seems to be the consensus.  I'll have another go at 
it.


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  Going though some old images I came across this one
  shot originally with a Super A on Ektachrome.  I had
  it scanned a couple of years ago to Kodak Photo CD
  but the scan was pretty ordinary - decided to see
  whether a BW conversion would be better.
  
  http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
  
  
  Comments, plaudits, brickbats accepted with good
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Re: PESO: Oops

2007-08-10 Thread Rick Womer
Oh, I found an even stranger one for the PUG!

--- Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Sometimes one goes through one's photos (or a box
 of
  slides, in the old days) and wonders How did THAT
 get
  in there??
 
  This is one of those.  There seems to be some
  pavement, but I have no idea what the blue thing
 is. 
  Still, it appeals to me.
 
  Comments welcome!
 Yes, it's an interesting shot.
 
 But didn't you just say that you were struggling to
 find a strange 
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Re: Digital projectors

2007-08-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 9, 2007, at 21:00, David Savage wrote:


 I don't have a lot of experience with projectors, but we have one  
 of these
 in the conference room at work:

 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx? 
 c=usl=ens=bsdcs=04sku=221-9411

 We use it mainly to show photos  CAD drawings to clients. It works  
 well
 enough for our needs.


We use those here in our conference rooms and they're great!


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Re: PESO - Accidental

2007-08-10 Thread Brian Walters
Very nice.

Budgies don't seem to be quite as popular as pets here as they were say 30-40 
years ago.  Some of the larger parrots have displaced them a bit.

We had a state election here a couple of months ago and the candidate for the 
Liberals had a habit of doing press conferences in his 'budgie smugglers'.

He didn't win..


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Quoting Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I found this guy in my backyard
 
 http://tinyurl.com/36h4fp
 
 Budgerigar (Melopsittacus undulatus) native to Australia,
 photographed 
 in Germantown, Maryland, USA He looked really tired!
 
 pixelpeeping info: Canon 20D 300/4 IS with 12mm extension,
 hand-held, 
 1/80, F5 ISO 800.  Slight crop.  I had the flash on but it didn't
 fire 
 (bad contact I think), kinda just a grab shot when I saw him in the
 
 backyard.  Poor little bastard must be lost.  Obviously an escaped
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Re: PESO -- Egret Fishing II

2007-08-10 Thread Brian Walters
Yes, I like the contrast between the bird and the water. Amazing how a bird 
that large manages to cling onto that old stump.


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Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I was going through the, well, not exactly rejects, from the test
 of my 
 new pistol grip/shoulder stock combination, and I found this.  I
 passed 
 over it before but I've decided that I like it more now that I've
 had a 
 chance to think about it.
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20fishingegret2.html
 
 Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 w/smc Pentax F
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Re: Crossing the river

2007-08-10 Thread John Sessoms
From:
Cotty
 On 7/8/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
   
 The background needs to be a lot more out of focus, and the reeds need to 
 be 
 somewhat better illuminated.
 
 Is that ugly bokeh or am I a banana?

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Reuters gets that sinking feeling

2007-08-10 Thread Feroze
News agency Reuters has been forced to admit that footage it released 
last week purportedly showing Russian submersibles on the seabed of the 
North Pole actually came from the movie Titanic.

The mistake was only revealed after a 13-year-old Finnish schoolboy 
contacted a local newspaper to tell them the images looked identical to 
those used in the movie.




http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,2146373,00.html

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Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-10 Thread John Sessoms
From:
Steve Sharpe
 At 6:33 AM -0400 8/7/07, Bob Shell wrote:
 On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

  I have a friend who owns another store that is virtually all film
  cameras (Classic Camera in Biddeford Maine). His sales are steady as
  well, though he makes most of his money repairing film cameras. He
  has as much repair business as he can handle. People want to hang
  onto their film cameras.
 I didn't say it in my original post, but my friend's shop also offers 
 camera repair and does quite a bit of it.

 The Camera Fix group on Yahoo stays busy, and posts about repairing
 digital cameras are rare.
 My friend has commented on that as well, in that most digital cameras 
 (and he was referring to point and shoots) are not designed to be 
 repairable if something goes wrong. So, the cost of actually repairing 
 one - if it can be done - is far more expensive than going over to 
 Wal-mart and just buying a new one.

Have to laugh about that one.

I've got a Canon Point 'n Shoot digital; A60, IIRC. The Army gave it to 
me for documenting safety issues when I was in Iraq, but it died about 
halfway through the tour. Brigade S-4 instructed me to trash it, because 
it was not economically repairable, so I dumped it in a duffel bag and 
forgot about it.

But near the end of 2005, I saw it was one of those listed as affected 
by a Sony imaging chip recall, so I said What the heck, dug it out and 
dropped it by my local camera shop (Canon dealer).

Their repair guy sent it in to Canon who repaired it under warranty.

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread John Sessoms
From:
David Savage
 On 8/8/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Good stuff Bob. I think I like the colour version more (witch is strange 
  for me)
 
 Ugh! That should of course read which, not witch.
With apologies to Screamin' Jay Hawkins  - I put a spell on you ...

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Re: Reuters gets that sinking feeling

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
Thanks for posting!

Did you notice this sentence:
in August last year in which it [RTR] published an image by a
freelancer of Israeli bombings in Lebanon that had been dramatised
using photo manipulation, with the addition of smoke rising from
allegedly burning buildings.

Is there still a mirror of that picture somewhere, as far as anyone of
you knows?

Thanks,
Syb

2007/8/11, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 News agency Reuters has been forced to admit that footage it released
 last week purportedly showing Russian submersibles on the seabed of the
 North Pole actually came from the movie Titanic.

 The mistake was only revealed after a 13-year-old Finnish schoolboy
 contacted a local newspaper to tell them the images looked identical to
 those used in the movie.




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Re: Reuters gets that sinking feeling

2007-08-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Reuters credibility hit rock bottom some time ago, apparently they've 
decided to drill deeper...

Feroze wrote:
 News agency Reuters has been forced to admit that footage it released 
 last week purportedly showing Russian submersibles on the seabed of the 
 North Pole actually came from the movie Titanic.

 The mistake was only revealed after a 13-year-old Finnish schoolboy 
 contacted a local newspaper to tell them the images looked identical to 
 those used in the movie.




 http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,2146373,00.html

   


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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
Starting to feel a new cup is needed for some guys here...

Syb

2007/8/11, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 From:
 David Savage
  On 8/8/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Good stuff Bob. I think I like the colour version more (witch is strange 
   for me)
 
  Ugh! That should of course read which, not witch.
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Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-10 Thread John Sessoms
From:
Cotty
 On 8/8/07, Chris Stoddart, discombobulated, unleashed:
 ex-colonials
 
 You mean the bloody Yanks?
Damn Yankees?

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Re: Reuters gets that sinking feeling

2007-08-10 Thread Feroze
http://crossthebreeze.com/2006/08/07/not-enough-drama/

syb vis wrote:
 Thanks for posting!

 Did you notice this sentence:
 in August last year in which it [RTR] published an image by a
 freelancer of Israeli bombings in Lebanon that had been dramatised
 using photo manipulation, with the addition of smoke rising from
 allegedly burning buildings.

 Is there still a mirror of that picture somewhere, as far as anyone of
 you knows?

 Thanks,
 Syb

 2007/8/11, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 News agency Reuters has been forced to admit that footage it released
 last week purportedly showing Russian submersibles on the seabed of the
 North Pole actually came from the movie Titanic.

 The mistake was only revealed after a 13-year-old Finnish schoolboy
 contacted a local newspaper to tell them the images looked identical to
 those used in the movie.




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Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-10 Thread John Sessoms
From:
graywolf
 That sounds like a well know practice called, shooting yourself in 
 the foot.


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Re: Reuters gets that sinking feeling

2007-08-10 Thread Feroze
sad...what really caught my attention was that a kid caught them out, 
didn't anyone else notice that the emperor had no clothes on?

Feroze

P. J. Alling wrote:
 Reuters credibility hit rock bottom some time ago, apparently they've 
 decided to drill deeper...

 Feroze wrote:
   
 News agency Reuters has been forced to admit that footage it released 
 last week purportedly showing Russian submersibles on the seabed of the 
 North Pole actually came from the movie Titanic.

 The mistake was only revealed after a 13-year-old Finnish schoolboy 
 contacted a local newspaper to tell them the images looked identical to 
 those used in the movie.




 http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,2146373,00.html

   
 


   

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Re: Reuters gets that sinking feeling

2007-08-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/08/07, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://crossthebreeze.com/2006/08/07/not-enough-drama/

LOL, that's such a crap edit, they should fire the guy ;-)

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