Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-27 Thread mike wilson

Doug Brewer wrote:

mike wilson wrote:


Doug Brewer wrote:


Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan.

And I agree. You should all order your own copy.

If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and 
send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and 
we'll all be deliriously happy.


Unless you don't want me to deface it.



Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at 
www.pdml.net?  If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode 
NE38 0DX, please.




yeah, I =think= you can, by just using a credit card, but I don't know 
how it works internationally. If anyone on list has experience with 
this, please advise.


Worked for me when I donated.  At least, the money left _my_ account..



Looking at shipping rates from the USPS, UPS and Fedex, USPS looks 
cheapest. First class international mail for two books would be right 
around twenty bucks.


So, figure whichever version of the book(s) you want, add 6.99 to get to 
me, then another twenty to get to you.


If anyone else in your area wants one, I can probably package a few more 
for not much more money.


I will be doing this for Bob and myself no earlier than 48hours from 
now.  If anyone else in the UK wants, speak up before then.


Doug, can you PM me your address, please?

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Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-08-27 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/26/2010 9:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and
the process of reviewing submissions.  I find that I am unable to
predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject.


Oh, I find nothing to be mystified about, really, Daniel. Have a look, 
the process is simple - photos get distributed (as far as I can tell, 
purely at random) and fellow PPG'ers are given a chance to vote thumb up 
or thumb down. Then, whatever passes certain threshold is reviewed by 
some kind of board or whatever and then photos either get accepted or 
not. Given the randomness of the first stage of this process, I see 
nothing that cannot be explained here. One day you submit a photo and 
the bunch of guys looking at it favors photos of this genre, and the 
other day it is not the case. So, the same photo can be either through 
the peer review stage or not.


I should refrain however from passing a judgment on this process...

Boris

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Re: LR 3.0 peculiarity

2010-08-27 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/26/2010 8:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Regards your crashing problems, your hardware looks up to snuff
although I'm not sure why you'd run Win XP 64-bit rather than Win 7
64-bit. Seems to me that Win 7 is a LOT better at 64bit operations
than anything out of the XP generation, but then "I don't do Windows"
so perhaps I'm missing some subtleties there.


Oh, the reasons are purely tangential. I bought WinXP64 when Win7 wasn't 
available yet in its final form. In the office my workstation runs 
WinXP64 so I kind of prefer my work computer (10 hours a day, 5 days a 
week) to be similar to my home computer. So, there is no any *real* 
reason, just my laziness and obsession with convenience...



... But you might try moving
that storage volume to a local connect and see if you still have
crashing problems. If you don't, that's the culprit.


I will pay special attention to this "local connect" suggestion, 
Godfrey, as it *seems* that once it crashes for the first time I doesn't 
crash any more until I reboot the computer, which would be well in line 
with some peculiarity of WinXP64 initialization of net interfaces.



(My own system is all direct connection via USB2 and FW400. My 'in
progress' catalog file has 78,000 images in it, is about 1.12Gbytes in
size. I move too much data for even 1G ethernet to handle efficiently,
that's why the direct connections.)


I see.


Lightroom 2.7 was bit-for-bit identical with Lightroom 2.7 RC. When
Adobe puts out an RC version for public consumption, it's typically
about a 98% probability that the release will be identical. I've been
running on 3.2 RC for the past week, it's very reliable and stable.
I've deleted 2.7 and 2.0 from my system now.


Oh! Fascinating... Well, and you also suggest, I suppose, that moving 
from 3.2RC is 3.2Rel is going to be fully seamless...


Boris

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Re: F 17-28mm (a different view)

2010-08-27 Thread CheekyGeek
Remarkable. This lens is rarely mentioned, and yet your email is
immediately beside the one in my inbox in which I (tearfully) confirm
the shipping of my beloved 17-28mm lens.

I will respectfully disagree with Mr. Robinson, but then my tastes do
not normally go to enjoying the extreme fisheye effect. We also don't
know from your post whether you intend to use this on a Pentax DSLR or
film camera (or both).

I used mine only on Digital and loved it. Some examples of what can be
done with it and the way it gives you just slightly skewed results
(unlike any other lens) can be found in my ad (now in the sold section
on PF):

RESENDING to list, since I forgot to send the original plain text.

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/sold-items/110985-sale-%5Bsold%5D-pentax-f-17-28mm-fisheye-zoom-pentax-original-worldwide.html

Regarding:
http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*&store=1&levels=003100
730214&sti=

They are one of the many less-than-up&up  photo dealers. I would just
about guarantee that if you purchase this one you eventually find that
they either do not have it anymore (it hasn't been made for many
years) or is a used one that's condition does not match the photo
accompanying the ad. If it does, then $179 is a steal... but I fear it
is they that is going to be the thief with this lens.

Also, the 17-28mm on a full frame (35mm) camera has an equiv. for the
Pentax DSLR of today: The DA 10-17mm. However, owning that lens is
still not the same as the subtler lines that the F 17-28mm will give
you on your DSLR.

Were it not for my current financial situation, it would still be in
my kit. I hope to have one again in the future.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-08-27 19:14, Paul Dunderdale wrote:

And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* 
(Lehrer).


A lesson lost in the murkiness of American history, though it was one of 
the bases of our society.


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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament

2010-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Looks like it's being used to stake up a sapling.(?) Brings back "tiring" 
memories. Especially when they're dull and rusty. ;)

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - The Lawn Ornament
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 7:24 PM
> Perhaps they were thinking that by
> bringing it out and letting it sit
> on the grass for a day or two the lawn
>  might be less traumatized when it starts the actual mowing
> process:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html
> 
> I just thought it looked kind of cool - you don't see those
> manual
> lawn mowers very often these days (although I think they
> may be making
> a bit of a come-back in these environmentally sensitive
> times).
> 
> Hope you like.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: 17-28 fisheye

2010-08-27 Thread coll...@brendemuehl.net
Rick
I did use a subject line.
But I made the mistake of putting a "?" instead of the word "Question".
I think it got stripped for an illegal character.

Others,
Thanks for your thoughts.
I did put it on a K-X and saw the same shortcoming.
It's nice 17-20, but beyond 20mm it seems not unique enough.


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Re: Absolute ZEN: Stones

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Roman Melihhov  wrote:
> http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100827103002

Wonderful.

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Re: PESO: First Photo

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @ 
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com
>
> In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot:
>
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo
>
> There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this group 
> will appreciate the content nevertheless.

Technical problems?  I don't see any.

I see terrific light, a sharp Frederick, nicely blurred Meg (dynamic
element) and a wonderfully composed Pentax moment.

What more could we ask for?

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
> I went on a photowalk on Friday with a local group through Boston.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4914522823/
>
> There's more on my stream, but this is one of the best IMO.

That's a terrific photo!

As an aside, I was taking photos at a similar type of fountain we have
here in Toronto (Dundas Square, FWIW) and someone came up to me and
asked if I'd asked permission of the parents of the kids.

I nicely informed her that I didn't need to do that, and in any event
I was not up to "no good".  She started to argue with me so I walked
away.  Wasn't worth the hassle.  The place is usually crawling with
security guards and I didn't want to have to deal with one of those
wallies.

But, your photo's a real gem.

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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-27 Thread Doug Brewer

mike wilson wrote:

Doug Brewer wrote:


Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan.

And I agree. You should all order your own copy.

If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and 
send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and 
we'll all be deliriously happy.


Unless you don't want me to deface it.


Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at 
www.pdml.net?  If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode NE38 
0DX, please.




yeah, I =think= you can, by just using a credit card, but I don't know 
how it works internationally. If anyone on list has experience with 
this, please advise.


Looking at shipping rates from the USPS, UPS and Fedex, USPS looks 
cheapest. First class international mail for two books would be right 
around twenty bucks.


So, figure whichever version of the book(s) you want, add 6.99 to get to 
me, then another twenty to get to you.


If anyone else in your area wants one, I can probably package a few more 
for not much more money.


Thanks

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Re: peso - piano

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/
>
> Angry comments are always welcome.

I like it, even though I can't tell it's a piano.  Wonderful mood,
intriguing composition.

cheers,
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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist
 wrote:
> The first 47 pics are new this year.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

Runs the gamut from my favourite car of all time (AH Bugeye Sprite) to
the ugliest car ever made (AMC Pacer).

Terrific gallery, Paul!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Vaporware

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:
> The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help:
> http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm
>

Brilliant!!

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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It (colour version)

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Color version for me too...

Thanks, Boris, and thanks to everyone else who commented.  Glad you liked it.

I think I prefer the colour, too.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - At the Water

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:02 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Very nice. A very peaceful feel.

Thanks, Dave.

cheers,
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PESO - The Lawn Ornament

2010-08-27 Thread frank theriault
Perhaps they were thinking that by bringing it out and letting it sit
on the grass for a day or two the lawn
 might be less traumatized when it starts the actual mowing process:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

I just thought it looked kind of cool - you don't see those manual
lawn mowers very often these days (although I think they may be making
a bit of a come-back in these environmentally sensitive times).

Hope you like.

Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Absolute ZEN: Stones

2010-08-27 Thread Rick Womer
Very Zennish.  Thank you.  I needed that!

Rick

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> Subject: Absolute ZEN: Stones
> To: "pdml" 
> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 3:39 AM
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Re: 17-28 fisheye (was [No Subject])

2010-08-27 Thread Rick Womer
Colin,

If you provide a subject line, you'll get more responses.

Buying the 17-28 would be good if (1) you shoot film, or (2) you are sure that 
Pentax is going to produce a camera with a 35mm format sensor.

The 17-28 fits the Pentax digital bodies nicely, but doesn't provide much 
fisheye effect--it becomes the 35mm equivalent of 25-42mm.

As for the merchant...

Rick

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> From: coll...@brendemuehl.net 
> Subject: 
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 5:50 PM
> A local retailer has the Pentax-F
> 17-28 fisheye for $300.
> But then I found this for much less
> http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*&store=1&levels=003100
> 730214&sti=
> Is one under-priced?
> It's a tempting lens.
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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

>
>On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, "Paul Dunderdale" 
>> wrote:
>>> A couple of years ago:  I took months to figure that I couldn't post in
>>> RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say.  And if a man has
>>> nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer).
>> 
>> Ah.  A Lehrer fan.  You'll get on well here
>>> 
>>> A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning.
>
>Better yet, a man that knows how to lurk. A skill that I need to acquire one 
>of these days.
>
>My old usenet haunt (alt.peeves) had a one word faq: "lurk".

Whay wasn't there ever an newsgroup called "alt.lurk"? That woulda
been cool.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, "Paul Dunderdale" 
> wrote:
>> A couple of years ago:  I took months to figure that I couldn't post in
>> RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say.  And if a man has
>> nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer).
> 
> 
> 
> Ah.  A Lehrer fan.  You'll get on well here
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning.

Better yet, a man that knows how to lurk. A skill that I need to acquire one of 
these days.

My old usenet haunt (alt.peeves) had a one word faq: "lurk".

> 

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Re: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-27 Thread eckinator
2010/8/27 Bob W :
> I don't think so. The 'cycl-' in cyclops refers to the shape of the eye, not
> to the number of eyes. 'cycl-' meaning round, as in, er, cycle. To talk
> about someone with 3 eyes you'd be more likely to refer to them as a triops.
>
> Dioptic Bob

how bout Binocular Bob then?

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, "Paul Dunderdale" 
wrote:
> A couple of years ago:  I took months to figure that I couldn't post in
> RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say.  And if a man has
> nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer).



Ah.  A Lehrer fan.  You'll get on well here



Cheers

Brian

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> A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning.
> 
> P
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 Aug 2010, at 00:10, Christine Aguila wrote:
> 
> > 
> > From: "Dunderdale" 
> > 
> > Hey, when did this list get a Dunderdale?  :-)  Cheers, Christine
> > 
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Re: PESO - Vaporware

2010-08-27 Thread Christine Aguila
What Derby said.  That's a very intriguing picture, Dario.  The guy's 
expression is kind of creepy, but in a funny way.  Cheers, Christine




- Original Message - 
From: "Dario Bonazza" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Vaporware



Thanks Derby, I appreciate your liking.
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Derby Chang" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Vaporware



Dario Bonazza wrote:

The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm

Dario



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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Hey Miserere:  I like the gallery, very nice.  I really like this one: 
http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SAM_1884-small.jpg 
but the whole gallery is very nice.  Cheers, Christine




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Miserere wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I'm back from my UK trip, and I'm happy to report that I both took
photos, and was not stopped by the police for doing so. I'll have some
from London in a few days, but for now here's a small gallery from a
jet-lagged walk around Southampton:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/08/17/a-photowalk-with-the-samsung-
nx10-and-30mm-f2/

You'll excuse me for having taken them with the Sammy NX10 + 30mm f/2
-- until Pentax delivers us to EVIL, it's all I've got.

C&C welcome, of course.

Cheers,


 --M.

Interesting and a good gallery of a visit to a town in the UK.

I was brought up in Southampton and tried to place the shots. Think I 
might

have seen the base of the Mayflower memorial in one of them (the Pilgrim
Fathers originally set out from Southampton, but had to call in a Plymouth
to repair a leak so Plymouth claims port of departure).

I particularly like the one of the 2 people in the park.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Paul Dunderdale
A couple of years ago:  I took months to figure that I couldn't post in RTF, 
then I figured that I had nothing much to say.  And if a man has nothing to 
say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer).

A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning.

P



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> From: "Dunderdale" 
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> Hey, when did this list get a Dunderdale?  :-)  Cheers, Christine
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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Christine Aguila


From: "Dunderdale" 

Hey, when did this list get a Dunderdale?  :-)  Cheers, Christine

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Re: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-27 Thread mike wilson

Larry Colen wrote:


On Aug 27, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Bob W wrote:



With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes
Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a
woman's breasts than her face. :-)



you've never been to a whorehouse in Riyadh then?



No I haven't.  Is it worth the trip?


It'll cost you an arm and a leg.


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Re: Pentax 17-28mm fisheye

2010-08-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 27, 2010, at 16:50, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

> A local retailer has the Pentax-F 17-28 fisheye for $300.
> But then I found this for much less
> http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*&store=1&levels=003100
> 730214&sti=
> Is one under-priced?
> It's a tempting lens.
> 

If you're shooting digital, you will probably find that a 17mm fisheye is 
disappointingly "normal with some bendy lines"-looking.

I had the Zenitar 16mm fisheye for years, but almost never used it on my ist-DS 
because it wasn't "fisheye enough" if you get my meaning.

Film would be another subject altogether...

 -Charles

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Paul Dunderdale

On 27 Aug 2010, at 21:16, Cotty discombobulated:
> 
>> Accepted.  Let's be friends, but avoid this subject.
> 
> Hang on mate - I didn't do anything wrong, I'm just apologising ;-)
> 
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Ah, the fun we have.

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2010-08-27 Thread coll...@brendemuehl.net
A local retailer has the Pentax-F 17-28 fisheye for $300.
But then I found this for much less
http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*&store=1&levels=003100
730214&sti=
Is one under-priced?
It's a tempting lens.


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Re: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-27 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 27, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Bob W wrote:

>> 
>> With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes
>> Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a
>> woman's breasts than her face. :-)
>> 
> 
> you've never been to a whorehouse in Riyadh then?

No I haven't.  Is it worth the trip?

> 

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Re: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-27 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:59 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

> 
> 
> Watch out for those laser beams, Larry
> 
> http://www.petapixel.com/2010/07/28/what-laser-light-can-do-to-your-precious-dslr-sensor/

Good warning.  It was my experience that the sensors were aimed high enough so 
as not to shine on people, in their eyes etc.


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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Accepted.  Let's be friends, but avoid this subject.

Hang on mate - I didn't do anything wrong, I'm just apologising ;-)

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Accepted.  Let's be friends, but avoid this subject.

Dan

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 27/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an
>>ad hominem attack.  I therefore feel it best if I do not respond.
>
> I'd like to apologise if I may.
>
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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an
>ad hominem attack.  I therefore feel it best if I do not respond.

I'd like to apologise if I may.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an
ad hominem attack.  I therefore feel it best if I do not respond.

Dan

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:51 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
>  I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money back
> on your degree.
>
> On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
>> however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
>> Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
>> welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.
>>
>> "If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
>> Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
>> years."
>>
>> That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
>> colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
>> more suffering than they purport to prevent.
>>
>> Dan
>>
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Re: peso - piano

2010-08-27 Thread steve harley

On 2010-08-22 23:37 , Sasha Sobol wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/


i can tell what it is, but i think it would be more interesting from an 
angle (up? down?) where the shape of the piano could be discerned, 
especially if you could see some of the curves, echoing the other curves


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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-27 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

Doug Brewer wrote:



Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan.

And I agree. You should all order your own copy.

If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and
send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and
we'll all be deliriously happy.

Unless you don't want me to deface it.


Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at
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if that's going to work then you can get me one, Mike, and I'll come up in
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RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Mitchell
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Sent: 27 August 2010 18:45
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
> 
> I thought that Queenstown, now called Cobh again, was the Irish port
> of departure for the
> Titanic.  They have a nice Titanic Museum there.
> 
> Dan
> >
Yes, it's Queenstown. Cookstown came in up relation to work this afternoon
and I got it into my head...

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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling

 I have nothing to say, they're disgustingly competent.

On 8/25/2010 10:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

The first 47 pics are new this year.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling

 On 8/26/2010 3:48 PM, Bob W wrote:

yesterday, I brought up an image on the screen and handed the camera to
someone else to view.  From their puzzled look, something was wrong.
Looking again at the screen, it was covered in vertical lines, of varying
thickness, of pastel (at least, no vivid) colours, interspersed with

dashed

black lines one or two pixels thick.

More worryingly, none of the buttons elicited a response, even the on/off
switch.

Just as I was beginning to seriously panic, the off switch worked (not
immediately - it was left in the off position and finally worked after

about

three seconds) and everything returned to normal.

No recurrence.  So far.

I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give

trouble in

the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others I have

fondled.

Apart from that, I can think of no reason for what occured.  Anyone else

have

an idea?

you were probably kidnapped by aliens and subjected to a range of
unspeakable breeding experiments before your memory was wiped.

B

Which may very well be true, but it doesn't explain the cameras behavior.

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RE: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
> 
> >a crumpet is more like a fat pikelet
> 
> I would have said more like a piefor.

that would be to die for




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Re: Lightroom at one-third the price?

2010-08-27 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Yes, volume license deals are legal. But they're a hassle sold by
> people I don't trust.
> 
> I trust doing business with Adobe, Lightroom is worth $300 to me.

Just thought I'd let you know how this worked out for me. I was alerted to this 
option by a member of this list. http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ Their 
website included a 501(c)3 from a nonprofit on their list of acceptable 
documentation of eligibility for their discounts. After I placed my order, 
however, they informed me that Adobe software required evidence of an academic 
affiliation. 

Later I got a note from them asking I've I'd be interested in a quote for a 
nonprofit organization. Of course I said I was, and earlier today got an offer 
of $96.95 for the license and $19.25 for a set of installation disks. 

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RE: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
I don't think so. The 'cycl-' in cyclops refers to the shape of the eye, not
to the number of eyes. 'cycl-' meaning round, as in, er, cycle. To talk
about someone with 3 eyes you'd be more likely to refer to them as a triops.

Dioptic Bob

> 
>   Well, he'd be a triclops.
> 
> On 8/24/2010 4:55 AM, eckinator wrote:
> > what do we call you then? CycBob?
> >
> > 2010/8/24 Bob W:
> >> no, but I'm considering having a special new socket dug in the middle
> >> of my forehead
> >>
> >>
> >>> http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/eye-wired-open-
> >>> 20100823-13inx.html
> >>>
> >>> regards, Anthony
> >>>
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RE: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw
> >
> 
> Great work Mike - I love the way you got the pond to shimmer!
> 

pay attention - you could learn a few things


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RE: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
> 
>   I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money
> back on your degree.
> 

Dan has a little bit of a chip on his shoulder about the British for some
reason. But we don't mind that, we just smile condescendingly and kick
another native.

Bob

> On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
> > however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
> > Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
> > welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.
> >
> > "If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
> > Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
> > years."
> >
> > That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
> > colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
> > more suffering than they purport to prevent.
> >
> > Dan



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RE: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
> 
>   I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money
> back on your degree.
> 

Mark!



> On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
> > however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
> > Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
> > welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.
> >
> > "If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
> > Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
> > years."
> >
> > That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
> > colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
> > more suffering than they purport to prevent.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> 
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RE: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
> Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
> > Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan.
> >
> > And I agree. You should all order your own copy.
> >
> > If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and
> > send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and
> > we'll all be deliriously happy.
> >
> > Unless you don't want me to deface it.
> 
> Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at
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RE: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
> 
> With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes
> Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a
> woman's breasts than her face. :-)
> 

you've never been to a whorehouse in Riyadh then?




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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling
 Kind of salty actually...  Wait I thought you meant... Kind of dry 
actually...


On 8/25/2010 12:22 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Have you ever had them without honey?
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Subject: Re: Leica's done with film

On 25 August 2010 22:40, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

"If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
years."

That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
more suffering than they purport to prevent.

It's amazing what a country will do to secure a supply of honey to go
with their crumpets.




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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling
 I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money 
back on your degree.


On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

"If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
years."

That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
more suffering than they purport to prevent.

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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I thought that Queenstown, now called Cobh again, was the Irish port
of departure for the
Titanic.  They have a nice Titanic Museum there.

Dan
>
> The Titanic was also pinched from Southampton - there was a late decision to
> stop and pick up some passengers from Cherbourg and then Cookstown in
> Ireland so all three claim that the Titanic sailed from them for her first
> and only voyage. Most of the crew who perished were Sotonians though.
>
> I'll stop now. Chris

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RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Mitchell
Bob W wrote:
> > Interesting and a good gallery of a visit to a town in the UK.
> >
> > I was brought up in Southampton and tried to place the shots. Think I
> might
> > have seen the base of the Mayflower memorial in one of them (the
> Pilgrim
> > Fathers originally set out from Southampton, but had to call in a
> Plymouth
> to
> > repair a leak so Plymouth claims port of departure).
> >
> 
> Ahem, Rotherhithe, actually. I cycle past this place when I go into
> town:
> <
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2005/06/28/coast05walks_st
> age6.
> shtml>
> 
> <
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/panoramas/coast05_point6mayflower_3
> 60.sh
> tml>
> 
> looks like everywhere wants to take the credit for cleansing the ethne
> of
> those ancient Taliban.
Ahem back! They set out from Rotherhithe to Southampton. There they met the
Speedwell and were supposed to sail for the New World from there. It was the
lousy crew on the Speedwell who scuppered everything - allegedly by
purposely springing a leak so they wouldn't have to undertake the voyage -
and thence back to Plymouth for repairs. So Plymouth claims the final port
of departure.

The Titanic was also pinched from Southampton - there was a late decision to
stop and pick up some passengers from Cherbourg and then Cookstown in
Ireland so all three claim that the Titanic sailed from them for her first
and only voyage. Most of the crew who perished were Sotonians though.

I'll stop now. Chris



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Re: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling

 Well, he'd be a triclops.

On 8/24/2010 4:55 AM, eckinator wrote:

what do we call you then? CycBob?

2010/8/24 Bob W:

no, but I'm considering having a special new socket dug in the middle of my
forehead



http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/eye-wired-open-
20100823-13inx.html

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Re: OT: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling

 Oh, hell no.

On 8/23/2010 7:58 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/eye-wired-open-20100823-13inx.html

regards, Anthony

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Re: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Larry Colen (Droid Mail) wrote:


"Ann Sanfedele"  wrote:

 


Larry _ i'm not (of course!)
   



I don't know if that's of course.  I think you could have a lot of fun there.

 


But my young friend Kate Goldwater is...
   



Any relation?



Not at all -  and she is way, way in the other direction politically 
:-)  brief story follows:


Kate owns the store across the street from me that is called AuH2O... 
(she sells here designs and vintage stuff)
when she first opened it back in 2006 I walked in and asked that 
question.   She liked that I knew  that I knew what it meant
not many, it appears, had a clue.  

As to _my_  having fun at Burning Man ? -  n  not my idea of 
fun at all -- ( I can see a few friends here
chuckling) .  In fact-  I wouldn't have even liked it when I was still 
able to pack 25 lbs up a mountain and still get down
on my knees to crawl into a tent. 

Anyway - Don't step on the cryptogamic soil  and stay hydrated  - will 
look forward to photos :-)


ann













 


this is kate:

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Talented-People/Talented-People-Color-shots/2637896_VPuoN/1/530911812_gpBq6/Large
   



Nice picture, lovely subject.

 


She has never been before and is all pumped about it.
   



I can imagine. Does she have a bunch of burner friends?

 


Closest I've gotten to it is spending a night in Gerlach in 1988...
   



...spent a week there one night.

I've had lunch in fernley.

 


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Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-08-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

Bruce Dayton wrote:

You have a good memory.  I did resubmit a few.  I found no rhyme or reason 
to the decisions made.  Images that had been accepted before were rejected 
and images that were rejected before were accepted.  Sometimes a rejected 
image would be resubmitted and then accepted, etc.  So between all that 
and the extremely clunky interface I finally gave up and moved on.  I 
haven't really been back since.  It has been a rather long time.


Ditto.

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Re: PESO - Vaporware

2010-08-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

Thanks Derby, I appreciate your liking.
Dario

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Vaporware



Dario Bonazza wrote:

The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm

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OT - Visiting Sydney, Australia in September

2010-08-27 Thread Igor Roshchin


Hi All,

If nothing drastic will happen between now and then,
I will be in Sydney, Australia, during the week of September 19-27.
I am coming there for a scientific conference.

I know that Brian Walters is in Sydney, but I also remember mentioning
that there were 3 or 4 PDMLers in Sydney.

So, my questions are:
1. I'd appreciate all suggestions as for what to see/visit in the city 
(including some local restaurants), and in close vicinity
(we are planning on renting a car for 1-2 days and going to 
Featherdale Wildlife Park.)

The conference will be held at Sydney Masonic Centre, and the hotel we 
reserved is within 2-3 blocks from it (in case you can recommend
some restaurants there).

2. If somebody is interested in meeting (for a lunch, photowalk, to show
the city, etc.), - that'd be very interesting, - please let me know 
(probably off the list, - and then if there are several people, - 
we might coordinate a mini-PDML meeting).

Thank you in advance,

Igor



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Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-08-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
You have a good memory.  I did resubmit a few.  I found no rhyme or reason to 
the decisions made.  Images that had been accepted before were rejected and 
images that were rejected before were accepted.  Sometimes a rejected image 
would be resubmitted and then accepted, etc.  So between all that and the 
extremely clunky interface I finally gave up and moved on.  I haven't really 
been back since.  It has been a rather long time.
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. 

"Jack Davis"  wrote:

>Bruce, I clearly remember your pulling your 50+ images with the explanation, 
>if I recall correctly, that you intended to resubmit them to determine if they 
>would be accepted under the current standards. 
>You may have been one who began to submit images early on and at a time, 
>perhaps, when submission were ravenously accepted in an effort to develop a 
>gallery. As time passed and the gallery inventory increased, standards for 
>acceptance seemed to stiffen.
>It was my assumption that you wanted to "test" your images against the current 
>and seemingly more stringent standards. I recall the respect and admiration, 
>actually expressed by some, you garnered by so doing.
>From time to time I checked your gallery in the hope you would be pleased at 
>the rate of re-acceptance. Haven't done so for awhile.
>
>Jack
>
>--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
>
>> From: Bruce Dayton 
>> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 9:47 PM
>> I gave up a long time ago and pulled
>> all my pictures off.  Between the very inconsistent
>> voting and the crazy interface it just wasn't worth the
>> aggravation.  Haven't been to the site in a long time.
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. 
>> 
>> "Jack Davis" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >Yeah, one has to be pretty well adjusted to wait out
>> the time lag, doubtless created do to lack of interest in
>> voting.
>> >Still, it's a healthy incentive stimulated by the
>> challenge of having their photographic efforts find
>> approval.
>> >The proof is in the obvious satisfaction gleefully
>> expressed by many when announcing their work's acceptance.
>> >
>> >Jack
>> >
>> >--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Brian Walters 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Brian Walters 
>> >> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
>> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> >> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 3:49 PM
>> >> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25 +1000, "Rob
>> >> Studdert"
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On 27 August 2010 04:04, Daniel J. Matyola
>> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > > In any event, one thing that bothers me
>> is the
>> >> way the size limitation
>> >> > > is structured.  The recommended image
>> size is
>> >> 600 pixels high. There
>> >> > > is no stated limit on width, however.
>>  That
>> >> means the images in
>> >> > > portrait orientation are much smaller --
>> in both
>> >> the thumbnail and the
>> >> > > "full" size -- than images in landscape
>> >> orientation or even square
>> >> > > images.  I think that it makes it more
>> difficult
>> >> to get a portrait
>> >> > > image in the gallery and worse, it makes
>> it
>> >> harder to appreciate those
>> >> > > in the gallery that are in portrait
>> orientation
>> >> and therefore quite
>> >> > > reduced in size.  Has anyone else
>> noticed this?
>> >> > 
>> >> > I think the World's gone landscape in the
>> digital
>> >> realm, the tendency
>> >> > towards video and wide aspect ratio monitors
>> has left
>> >> portrait
>> >> > orientated images as a legacy of sorts,
>> basically
>> >> suitable for print
>> >> > only, it's a pity.
>> >> > 
>> >> > In any case I stay away from the PPG, I find
>> the
>> >> interface slow and
>> >> > hideous and I don't subscribe to their
>> philosophy
>> >> regarding selection,
>> >> > basically it's a crapshoot, if you partake
>> you have to
>> >> be tolerant of
>> >> > the foibles of the system.
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I've long since stopped pondering what will make
>> an
>> >> 'acceptable' image
>> >> for the PPG.  I just submit images that I like
>> and
>> >> shrug my shoulders
>> >> when they're rejected
>> >> 
>> >> I participate for the challenge but I can't
>> imagine that
>> >> anyone would
>> >> ever go there to view my images, or anyone else's
>> for that
>> >> matter.  That
>> >> interface is simply bizzare. Waiting while the 12
>> generic
>> >> images load
>> >> before you can even look at the gallery can often
>> take up
>> >> to a minute -
>> >> and once you're actually in and viewing, the rate
>> at which
>> >> images appear
>> >> redefines the word 'sluggish'.
>> >> 
>> >> If you have supersonic broadband, maybe you'd hang
>> around
>> >> for a bit but
>> >> I doubt that many would.
>> >> 
>> >> Very strange design.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Cheers
>> >> 
>> >> Brian
>> >> 
>> >> ++
>> >> Brian Walters
>> >> Western Sydney Australia
>> >> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
>> >> 

Re: peso - piano

2010-08-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks for all the comments,
I wanted to see how much information is needed - some of the shadows
were lost intentionality.

--Sasha


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Sasha,
> I'm sorry, but I've looked at this 4-5 times and still don't like it.
> The woman's expression is intense, but I'd never know she was at a
> piano without your comments.  It is just too damned dark.  You have to
> give me more than black shadows to let me see it.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>> Sasha Sobol wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/
>>>
>>> Angry comments are always welcome.
>>>
>>> --S
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Really lovely, Sasha, especially the flare.
>>
>> D
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Re: peso - piano

2010-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sasha,
I'm sorry, but I've looked at this 4-5 times and still don't like it.
The woman's expression is intense, but I'd never know she was at a
piano without your comments.  It is just too damned dark.  You have to
give me more than black shadows to let me see it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
> Sasha Sobol wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/
>>
>> Angry comments are always welcome.
>>
>> --S
>>
>>
>
> Really lovely, Sasha, especially the flare.
>
> D
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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-27 Thread Paul Sorenson
 ROLO?  I tried that but it didn't work too well.  Not enough grit, I 
guess. :-[


http://roogdesign.com/rolo/rolo-1.gif

-p

On 8/27/2010 12:09 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:



Chicago brand cheap carbon steel, two sets. Easy to sharpen, sharpen 
often with ROLO.   :-)



That's the way I roll, peeps!


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Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce, I clearly remember your pulling your 50+ images with the explanation, if 
I recall correctly, that you intended to resubmit them to determine if they 
would be accepted under the current standards. 
You may have been one who began to submit images early on and at a time, 
perhaps, when submission were ravenously accepted in an effort to develop a 
gallery. As time passed and the gallery inventory increased, standards for 
acceptance seemed to stiffen.
It was my assumption that you wanted to "test" your images against the current 
and seemingly more stringent standards. I recall the respect and admiration, 
actually expressed by some, you garnered by so doing.
>From time to time I checked your gallery in the hope you would be pleased at 
>the rate of re-acceptance. Haven't done so for awhile.

Jack

--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 9:47 PM
> I gave up a long time ago and pulled
> all my pictures off.  Between the very inconsistent
> voting and the crazy interface it just wasn't worth the
> aggravation.  Haven't been to the site in a long time.
> -- 
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. 
> 
> "Jack Davis" 
> wrote:
> 
> >Yeah, one has to be pretty well adjusted to wait out
> the time lag, doubtless created do to lack of interest in
> voting.
> >Still, it's a healthy incentive stimulated by the
> challenge of having their photographic efforts find
> approval.
> >The proof is in the obvious satisfaction gleefully
> expressed by many when announcing their work's acceptance.
> >
> >Jack
> >
> >--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Brian Walters 
> >> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 3:49 PM
> >> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25 +1000, "Rob
> >> Studdert"
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On 27 August 2010 04:04, Daniel J. Matyola
> 
> >> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > In any event, one thing that bothers me
> is the
> >> way the size limitation
> >> > > is structured.  The recommended image
> size is
> >> 600 pixels high. There
> >> > > is no stated limit on width, however.
>  That
> >> means the images in
> >> > > portrait orientation are much smaller --
> in both
> >> the thumbnail and the
> >> > > "full" size -- than images in landscape
> >> orientation or even square
> >> > > images.  I think that it makes it more
> difficult
> >> to get a portrait
> >> > > image in the gallery and worse, it makes
> it
> >> harder to appreciate those
> >> > > in the gallery that are in portrait
> orientation
> >> and therefore quite
> >> > > reduced in size.  Has anyone else
> noticed this?
> >> > 
> >> > I think the World's gone landscape in the
> digital
> >> realm, the tendency
> >> > towards video and wide aspect ratio monitors
> has left
> >> portrait
> >> > orientated images as a legacy of sorts,
> basically
> >> suitable for print
> >> > only, it's a pity.
> >> > 
> >> > In any case I stay away from the PPG, I find
> the
> >> interface slow and
> >> > hideous and I don't subscribe to their
> philosophy
> >> regarding selection,
> >> > basically it's a crapshoot, if you partake
> you have to
> >> be tolerant of
> >> > the foibles of the system.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I've long since stopped pondering what will make
> an
> >> 'acceptable' image
> >> for the PPG.  I just submit images that I like
> and
> >> shrug my shoulders
> >> when they're rejected
> >> 
> >> I participate for the challenge but I can't
> imagine that
> >> anyone would
> >> ever go there to view my images, or anyone else's
> for that
> >> matter.  That
> >> interface is simply bizzare. Waiting while the 12
> generic
> >> images load
> >> before you can even look at the gallery can often
> take up
> >> to a minute -
> >> and once you're actually in and viewing, the rate
> at which
> >> images appear
> >> redefines the word 'sluggish'.
> >> 
> >> If you have supersonic broadband, maybe you'd hang
> around
> >> for a bit but
> >> I doubt that many would.
> >> 
> >> Very strange design.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cheers
> >> 
> >> Brian
> >> 
> >> ++
> >> Brian Walters
> >> Western Sydney Australia
> >> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> >> 
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Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite a few years ago, we visited Katmai National Park, which is the
source of most images a grizzlies catching salmon by standing in the
falls as they try to jump over it.

There were 2 professional photographers on the float plane from King
Salmon to Brooks Lodge.  They both had permits.  Based on the
conversations I had with the one seated next to me, they weren't
required to get the permit, but getting it gave them certain
privileges that others didn't have.  I had to set up my tripod on the
photography platform overlooking the falls, where I was secure from
wondering bears.  The permitted pros could approach closer to the
falls, and could get different angles, but could not cross over to the
other side, which was were most of the bears would emerge from the
woods.  For the most part, the pros stayed on the platform with the
rest of us, as it had the best view of the action, but if the platform
got too crowded, then they could, and did, go off on their own.

That was 15 years ago, and things may be quite different now.

Dan

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 26/8/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm
>
>>I don't see what's controversial.  Commercial photographers usually have
>>to either have permission or pay to perform their craft if they intend
>>to profit from using a particular location.
>
> At the end of the day it seems it's down to the laws of the land and the
> land itself.
>
> In the UK, we have lots of private land (obviously) but we also have
> lots of footpaths, bridleways and byways which cross private land.
> According to law, as an individual I have the right to 'pass and re-
> pass' one of these rights of way. The law doesn't say anything about
> stopping to take a photograph or film. However, the law does say that as
> an individual I am permitted to photograph or film from a public right
> of way. There is no distinction between private, commercial or any other
> type of photography.
>
> When I am working for TV news, I will often access a footpath across
> private land to get a shot of a location or building that cannot be seen
> from the road (which is also a public right of way). Of course I have
> been accosted by irate landowners over the years, but to be honest,
> never had a problem. Often I will try the landowner first and 9 times
> out of ten they will tell me to access the site directly with a warm
> welcome. If one of them ever tried to sue me I'd welcome the opportunity
> to clarify the situation in court. Anyone know of any UK test cases in
> this respect?
>
> As far as national parks go, I am unaware of restrictions on commercial
> photographers. If I was a commercial photographer, I would not be
> skulking about in the bushes, I would be approaching the appropriate
> persons for permissions and information. If you run a business and stand
> by your product then in my book it's all above-board.
>
> I can see complications though as highlighted by the article. Australia
> is a big place. Really big. I always thought it was a long way down to
> the chemist's.
>
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FS Friday - Film

2010-08-27 Thread Rick Womer
All 35 mm, about half of it not in boxes or cannisters, but continuously 
refrigerated.  Some expired in 2006, some probably in 2008-9 (my last big film 
purchase was early in 2006, a few months before I bought an ist D).

I would prefer to sell it all to one person.  $25 takes all 32 rolls, including 
domestic US postage; PayPal or check accepted.

Elite Chrome 100 (EC 36) 12 rolls
Elite Chrome 100 (EC 24) 1 roll
Elite Chrome 200 (ED 36) 2 rolls
Elite Chrome 400 (EL 36) 7 rolls

Tri-X (TX 36) 2 rolls

Kodak Gold 400 (GC 36) 3 rolls
Kodak Gold 200 (GB 36) 1 roll
Kodak Gold 100 (GA 24) 1 roll
Agfa Optima Color 24 1 roll
Fujicolor 200 24 2 rolls

Rick

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Re: Absolute ZEN: Stones

2010-08-27 Thread Sandy Harris
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Roman Melihhov  wrote:
> http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100827103002

Great shot. TH\hanks.

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Re: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-27 Thread Derby Chang

Larry Colen wrote:

With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black 
Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's 
breasts than her face. :-)

I went in 2006 and that was my first time really exercising my FX20, which was my first 
"decent" digital camera. I love it at night, it makes me think of what Faerie 
would look like if it existed.

I just went through and grabbed a few of them, pretty much as they came out of the camera, I didn't have anything to do post processing, other than sizing them down, back then. You have to look for silhouettes of people to get a sense of scale of some of the art. 
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624692491693/


I call this one "shooting the moon through the heart"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230249987/in/set-72157624692491693/

They played "dance" music in this sculpture pretty much continuously until they 
burned it on the last night:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230264779/in/set-72157624692491693/

Which is why I call this one "disco inferno"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230261569/in/set-72157624692491693/

If you're really fascinated, there are a lot more of my shots from 2006 in this 
collection.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612996724411/
  

  



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Re: PESO - Vaporware

2010-08-27 Thread Derby Chang

Dario Bonazza wrote:

The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm

Dario



Superb on so many levels.



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Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3

2010-08-27 Thread Derby Chang

Miserere wrote:

It's made sense all along:

http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp

They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first
lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a
bang  :-)


  --M.

  


I'll be rooned. Already preordered the 75/1.8 M. Will absolutely have to 
get this one too. Local distributor is quoting 895 Aussie


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Re: peso - piano

2010-08-27 Thread Derby Chang

Sasha Sobol wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/

Angry comments are always welcome.

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Really lovely, Sasha, especially the flare.

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Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/8/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm

>I don't see what's controversial.  Commercial photographers usually have
>to either have permission or pay to perform their craft if they intend
>to profit from using a particular location.

At the end of the day it seems it's down to the laws of the land and the
land itself.

In the UK, we have lots of private land (obviously) but we also have
lots of footpaths, bridleways and byways which cross private land.
According to law, as an individual I have the right to 'pass and re-
pass' one of these rights of way. The law doesn't say anything about
stopping to take a photograph or film. However, the law does say that as
an individual I am permitted to photograph or film from a public right
of way. There is no distinction between private, commercial or any other
type of photography.

When I am working for TV news, I will often access a footpath across
private land to get a shot of a location or building that cannot be seen
from the road (which is also a public right of way). Of course I have
been accosted by irate landowners over the years, but to be honest,
never had a problem. Often I will try the landowner first and 9 times
out of ten they will tell me to access the site directly with a warm
welcome. If one of them ever tried to sue me I'd welcome the opportunity
to clarify the situation in court. Anyone know of any UK test cases in
this respect?

As far as national parks go, I am unaware of restrictions on commercial
photographers. If I was a commercial photographer, I would not be
skulking about in the bushes, I would be approaching the appropriate
persons for permissions and information. If you run a business and stand
by your product then in my book it's all above-board.

I can see complications though as highlighted by the article. Australia
is a big place. Really big. I always thought it was a long way down to
the chemist's.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/8/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>a crumpet is more like a fat pikelet

I would have said more like a piefor.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/8/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw
>

Great work Mike - I love the way you got the pond to shimmer!

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/8/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin?

The interesting bit is when the crumpet presents you with the muffin

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Absolute ZEN: Stones

2010-08-27 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100827103002



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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-27 Thread mike wilson

Doug Brewer wrote:


Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan.

And I agree. You should all order your own copy.

If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and 
send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and we'll 
all be deliriously happy.


Unless you don't want me to deface it.


Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at 
www.pdml.net?  If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode NE38 
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Re: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-27 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> 
> Well, I was going to ask but decided to Google instead.

In the bay area pretty much everybody under the age of 50, make that 60 knows 
about it, most of them know somebody who has gone.  I tend to be surprised by 
folks not having even heard of it.

> 
> It sounds like a fun event.  I note that, according to Wikipedia, there
> is a ban on driving, except for approved "mutant vehicles" and that
> "Burning your own art must be done on an approved burn platform".
> 
> Hmmm
> 
> Apparently clothing is optional, which should make your photos
> interesting.

With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black 
Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's 
breasts than her face. :-)

I went in 2006 and that was my first time really exercising my FX20, which was 
my first "decent" digital camera. I love it at night, it makes me think of what 
Faerie would look like if it existed.

I just went through and grabbed a few of them, pretty much as they came out of 
the camera, I didn't have anything to do post processing, other than sizing 
them down, back then. You have to look for silhouettes of people to get a sense 
of scale of some of the art. 
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624692491693/

I call this one "shooting the moon through the heart"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230249987/in/set-72157624692491693/

They played "dance" music in this sculpture pretty much continuously until they 
burned it on the last night:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230264779/in/set-72157624692491693/

Which is why I call this one "disco inferno"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230261569/in/set-72157624692491693/

If you're really fascinated, there are a lot more of my shots from 2006 in this 
collection.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612996724411/

> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Larry _ i'm not (of course!)
>> But my young friend Kate Goldwater is...
>> 
>> this is kate:
>> 
>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/Talented-People/Talented-People-Color-shots/2637896_VPuoN/1/530911812_gpBq6/Large
>> 
>> She has never been before and is all pumped about it.
>> 
>> Closest I've gotten to it is spending a night in Gerlach in 1988...
>> 
>> ann
>> 
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RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-27 Thread Bob W
> >
> >  --M.
> Interesting and a good gallery of a visit to a town in the UK.
> 
> I was brought up in Southampton and tried to place the shots. Think I
might
> have seen the base of the Mayflower memorial in one of them (the Pilgrim
> Fathers originally set out from Southampton, but had to call in a Plymouth
to
> repair a leak so Plymouth claims port of departure).
> 

Ahem, Rotherhithe, actually. I cycle past this place when I go into town:
<
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2005/06/28/coast05walks_stage6.
shtml>

<
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/panoramas/coast05_point6mayflower_360.sh
tml>

looks like everywhere wants to take the credit for cleansing the ethne of
those ancient Taliban.




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