Re: OT - Wi-Fi Enabled SD Cards
Thanks, Godfrey. Yes - I'm beginning to think that a straight card reader for the tablet would be less trouble. The Lunmix isn't used often so it's difficult to justify the cost compared to the slight inconvenience of the card reader. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Tue, Apr 18, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I can't recommend the Eye-Fi cards on the basis of their inconsistent > behavior and unreliability. I went through four of them trying to get > them to work in a couple of different cameras. They never did in a > consistent and reliable way. > > Other vendors, maybe. I have tried any since my more recent cameras > (except the Leica M-D) have all been WiFi enabled. > For the M-D, I use the Lightning to SD Card Camera Connection cable to > move files to my iPad, which is quite fast if a little less convenient. > > G > > > > On Apr 11, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Brian Walters <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > > > G'day all > > > > Just wondering if anyone has experience with wi-fi SD cards such as > > EyeFi Mobi. > > > > My wife has a Lumix LX-5. It's an older model but she quite likes it (so > > do I :-)) but it's not wi-fi enabled. She would like to be able to > > transfer files to her Anroid phone/tablet for posting to Facebook. I'm > > wondering if a wi-fi card would be worth considering. Note that she > > isn't looking to transfer large numbers of images, so speed of transfer > > isn't critical but reliability of the w-fi connection is. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Wi-Fi Enabled SD Cards
I can't recommend the Eye-Fi cards on the basis of their inconsistent behavior and unreliability. I went through four of them trying to get them to work in a couple of different cameras. They never did in a consistent and reliable way. Other vendors, maybe. I have tried any since my more recent cameras (except the Leica M-D) have all been WiFi enabled. For the M-D, I use the Lightning to SD Card Camera Connection cable to move files to my iPad, which is quite fast if a little less convenient. G > On Apr 11, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Brian Walters <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > G'day all > > Just wondering if anyone has experience with wi-fi SD cards such as > EyeFi Mobi. > > My wife has a Lumix LX-5. It's an older model but she quite likes it (so > do I :-)) but it's not wi-fi enabled. She would like to be able to > transfer files to her Anroid phone/tablet for posting to Facebook. I'm > wondering if a wi-fi card would be worth considering. Note that she > isn't looking to transfer large numbers of images, so speed of transfer > isn't critical but reliability of the w-fi connection is. > > Any thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Wi-Fi Enabled SD Cards
Hi Brian, I've done both and card reader is definitely quicker. Eye-fi in the TG850 means I don't have to open it all the time; its waterproof so I can transfer while it's wet. With other cameras it's been card reader. Card reader is definitely cheaper - jaycar is your friend :-) Ciao, Pete Mac in Melbourne On 18 April 2017 at 08:11, Brian Walters <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > Hi Pete > > Thanks for the feedback. > > I'm in two minds about this - might be just as easy to connect a card > reader directly to the tablet - a little more cumbersome but, for the > small number of image transfers involved, it still might be acceptable. > Still contemplating... > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017, at 05:36 PM, Peter McIntosh wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >> I've got a 16Gb Eyefi Mobi card in my Olympus TG-850. I have used it >> to transfer to my Android phone and Android tablet. Initial >> connection can be a little slow, but it's stable once connected and >> transfer rates are fine. You'll need the Android app on the device of >> course. >> >> I just went onto the eyefi site and clicked on Shop, and it seems they >> have partnered with Toshiba; I was taken to Amazon and a Toshiba 32GB >> FlashAir III Wireless SD Memory Card. >> >> From vague memory I purchased mine from Digital Camera Warehouse, but >> they're no longer available. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Ciao, >> >> Pete Mac in Melbourne. >> >> >> On 12 April 2017 at 09:18, Brian Walters <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote: >> > G'day all >> > >> > Just wondering if anyone has experience with wi-fi SD cards such as >> > EyeFi Mobi. >> > >> > My wife has a Lumix LX-5. It's an older model but she quite likes it (so >> > do I :-)) but it's not wi-fi enabled. She would like to be able to >> > transfer files to her Anroid phone/tablet for posting to Facebook. I'm >> > wondering if a wi-fi card would be worth considering. Note that she >> > isn't looking to transfer large numbers of images, so speed of transfer >> > isn't critical but reliability of the w-fi connection is. >> > >> > Any thoughts? >> > >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Brian >> > >> > ++ >> > Brian Walters >> > Western Sydney Australia >> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ >> > >> > -- >> > -- >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> > follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Wi-Fi Enabled SD Cards
Hi Pete Thanks for the feedback. I'm in two minds about this - might be just as easy to connect a card reader directly to the tablet - a little more cumbersome but, for the small number of image transfers involved, it still might be acceptable. Still contemplating... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Sun, Apr 16, 2017, at 05:36 PM, Peter McIntosh wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I've got a 16Gb Eyefi Mobi card in my Olympus TG-850. I have used it > to transfer to my Android phone and Android tablet. Initial > connection can be a little slow, but it's stable once connected and > transfer rates are fine. You'll need the Android app on the device of > course. > > I just went onto the eyefi site and clicked on Shop, and it seems they > have partnered with Toshiba; I was taken to Amazon and a Toshiba 32GB > FlashAir III Wireless SD Memory Card. > > From vague memory I purchased mine from Digital Camera Warehouse, but > they're no longer available. > > Hope this helps. > > Ciao, > > Pete Mac in Melbourne. > > > On 12 April 2017 at 09:18, Brian Walters <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > G'day all > > > > Just wondering if anyone has experience with wi-fi SD cards such as > > EyeFi Mobi. > > > > My wife has a Lumix LX-5. It's an older model but she quite likes it (so > > do I :-)) but it's not wi-fi enabled. She would like to be able to > > transfer files to her Anroid phone/tablet for posting to Facebook. I'm > > wondering if a wi-fi card would be worth considering. Note that she > > isn't looking to transfer large numbers of images, so speed of transfer > > isn't critical but reliability of the w-fi connection is. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > ++ > > Brian Walters > > Western Sydney Australia > > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > -- > > -- > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Wi-Fi Enabled SD Cards
Hi Brian, I've got a 16Gb Eyefi Mobi card in my Olympus TG-850. I have used it to transfer to my Android phone and Android tablet. Initial connection can be a little slow, but it's stable once connected and transfer rates are fine. You'll need the Android app on the device of course. I just went onto the eyefi site and clicked on Shop, and it seems they have partnered with Toshiba; I was taken to Amazon and a Toshiba 32GB FlashAir III Wireless SD Memory Card. >From vague memory I purchased mine from Digital Camera Warehouse, but they're no longer available. Hope this helps. Ciao, Pete Mac in Melbourne. On 12 April 2017 at 09:18, Brian Walters <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > G'day all > > Just wondering if anyone has experience with wi-fi SD cards such as > EyeFi Mobi. > > My wife has a Lumix LX-5. It's an older model but she quite likes it (so > do I :-)) but it's not wi-fi enabled. She would like to be able to > transfer files to her Anroid phone/tablet for posting to Facebook. I'm > wondering if a wi-fi card would be worth considering. Note that she > isn't looking to transfer large numbers of images, so speed of transfer > isn't critical but reliability of the w-fi connection is. > > Any thoughts? > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Wi-Fi Enabled SD Cards
G'day all Just wondering if anyone has experience with wi-fi SD cards such as EyeFi Mobi. My wife has a Lumix LX-5. It's an older model but she quite likes it (so do I :-)) but it's not wi-fi enabled. She would like to be able to transfer files to her Anroid phone/tablet for posting to Facebook. I'm wondering if a wi-fi card would be worth considering. Note that she isn't looking to transfer large numbers of images, so speed of transfer isn't critical but reliability of the w-fi connection is. Any thoughts? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 14 Nov 2016, at 15:28, Mark Robertswrote: > > Bill wrote: > >>> On 11/13/2016 6:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> Note that he didn't say people who like him. >>> :-) >> >> I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am. This makes people >> uncomfortable, since my dog thinks I am a god who can smote him with no >> warning. > > That's pretty much how the rest of us regard you. > He's just a very naughty boy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I was also enabled this week.
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a Pentax lens. https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ ++ Happy days, sensible size and decent grip. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've got the same setup, sans the nice handle. I've been itching to use it more. Have some slide film in it right now. Takes superb pics with that lens. On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehlwrote: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ > > > > And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a > Pentax lens. > > > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was also enabled this week.
That's ruffly right On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Mark Robertswrote: > Bill wrote: > >>On 11/13/2016 6:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> On November 13, 2016 3:59:43 PM PST, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: Bill wrote: > On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ >> >> And this. it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a >> Pentax lens. >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ > > I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. There are people you like??? ;-) >>> Note that he didn't say people who like him. >>> :-) >> >>I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am. This makes people >>uncomfortable, since my dog thinks I am a god who can smote him with no >>warning. > > That's pretty much how the rest of us regard you. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was also enabled this week.
Bill wrote: >On 11/13/2016 6:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> On November 13, 2016 3:59:43 PM PST, Mark Roberts >>wrote: >>> Bill wrote: >>> On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ > > And this. it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a > Pentax lens. > >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. >>> >>> There are people you like??? >>> ;-) >>> >> Note that he didn't say people who like him. >> :-) > >I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am. This makes people >uncomfortable, since my dog thinks I am a god who can smote him with no >warning. That's pretty much how the rest of us regard you. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was also enabled this week.
Bill wrote: On 11/13/2016 6:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Note that he didn't say people who like him. :-) I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am. This makes people uncomfortable, since my dog thinks I am a god who can smote him with no warning. Mark of the week. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was also enabled this week.
On 11/13/2016 6:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On November 13, 2016 3:59:43 PM PST, Mark Robertswrote: Bill wrote: On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a Pentax lens. https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. There are people you like??? ;-) Note that he didn't say people who like him. :-) I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am. This makes people uncomfortable, since my dog thinks I am a god who can smote him with no warning. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was also enabled this week.
On 11/13/2016 5:59 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bill wrote: On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a Pentax lens. https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. There are people you like??? ;-) There are people I dislike less than other people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was also enabled this week.
On November 13, 2016 3:59:43 PM PST, Mark Robertswrote: >Bill wrote: > >>On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >>> >https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ >>> >>> >>> >>> And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not >in a >>> Pentax lens. >>> >>> >>> >>> >https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ >>> >>> >>> >> >>I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. > >There are people you like??? >;-) > Note that he didn't say people who like him. :-) -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse any swypos. http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bill wrote: >On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ >> >> >> >> And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a >> Pentax lens. >> >> >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ >> >> >> > >I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. There are people you like??? ;-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was also enabled this week.
I sold some of mine to Dario, whom I like :-) Paul via phone > On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Billwrote: > >> On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ >> >> >> >> And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a >> Pentax lens. >> >> >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ >> >> >> > > I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/13/2016 3:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/2530089/in/dateposted-public/ And this . it's exactly what you think it is. Fortunately it's not in a Pentax lens. https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/30889087836/in/dateposted-public/ I still regret not selling my 6x7 gear to someone I liked. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My Adaptall A adapter was just sitting around. So today I went into the local used equipment haunt (world of used photography - https://www.facebook.com/pages/World-of-used-Photography/203110349709912) And bought their Tamron 24/2.5. $120. Higher than on eBay, but I thought good enough that I can return it if it does not pan out. Easier than online purchasing. Turns out it is pretty decent. Not great, but better than my 18-55 @ 24mm. This weekend I might do some comparison shooting with it against the FA28/2.8 and the 18-55WR. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine - wel think a lot alike on these things... I would be unlikely to shoot more than 200 either and would, like you probably rather have more 8 gb cards than one 32 normally. Though in the situation I'll be in, with not a lot of time to chimp - and being all thumbs .. what I might do though, is shoot the wedding on once card and tuck it away before the reception and then if I feel like grabbing a few at the reception that I can't resist on a second card. Boris - I certainly will be practicing a lot :-) ann On 7/10/2013 22:56, Christine Aguila wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. A LOT!!! :-)) I only shoot on 8gig cards, so I don't know exactly how many frames fit on a 32 bigger. I think I get about 200 frames on an 8 gig card with RAW. I use 8 gigs because of the all eggs in one basket fear. Yep, you can turn off beeps on the K-5. You'll be amazed at how quiet the shutter is too. Can't wait to see your test/practice shots, Ann. You're going to have a lot of fun playing with the K-5 before your shoot. Cheers, Christine ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise, I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance? Given what you've said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you really should get a 64GB card. I also recommend bringing a spare SD card reader, they're cheap. bring?? Aahz I'm not bringing a card reader to the wedding - its 30 minutes from my apartment by train, 10 by cab. :-) If I were going back to Alaska, you bet I'd bring lots of card - the smallness of the sd is an annoyance and I am klutzy, but I should have time to go to a second card if I need. I bet you think I have a laptop. hehe ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. I did get the confirming email from KEH - I splurged on the UPS second day air and the regular UPS guy knows me - he actually helped me id a couple of the buildings in the Back in the Day calendar :-) sounds like 32gb is more than I'll need for the wedding. ann On 7/10/2013 22:00, Gerrit Visser wrote: Give or take 800 angels on a 32gb using DNG on a K5. Not sure if anyone mentioned it, the shutter is very quiet compared to K100D et al. Not silent but quiet. jpg takes more processing power in the camera, plus you want Raw anyway to processing :-) So may as well just shoot raw. I switched to raw only before our last trip and ain't going back. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/11/2013 12:21 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Great news, Ann. You're going to enjoy your new camera. The only thing I can suggest is that you shoot extensively with K-5 before you do any serious work (such as your friend's wedding) with it. It has very different rhythm than *istD (or K10D for that matter, which is from where I transitioned to K-7). I do suggest that you set your K-5 to output DNGs. I don't even remember if it can do PEFs. It can. PEF or DNG. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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As long as Elements 5.0 can read DNG you will be fine. K5 doesn't output PEF's Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. I did get the confirming email from KEH - I splurged on the UPS second day air and the regular UPS guy knows me - he actually helped me id a couple of the buildings in the Back in the Day calendar :-) sounds like 32gb is more than I'll need for the wedding. ann On 7/10/2013 22:00, Gerrit Visser wrote: Give or take 800 angels on a 32gb using DNG on a K5. Not sure if anyone mentioned it, the shutter is very quiet compared to K100D et al. Not silent but quiet. jpg takes more processing power in the camera, plus you want Raw anyway to processing :-) So may as well just shoot raw. I switched to raw only before our last trip and ain't going back. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML
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Please ignore, just found that setting -Original Message- From: Gerrit Visser [mailto:gerrit...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:54 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: soon to be enabled As long as Elements 5.0 can read DNG you will be fine. K5 doesn't output PEF's Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. I did get the confirming email from KEH - I splurged on the UPS second day air and the regular UPS guy knows me - he actually helped me id a couple of the buildings in the Back in the Day calendar :-) sounds like 32gb is more than I'll need for the wedding. ann On 7/10/2013 22:00, Gerrit Visser wrote: Give or take 800 angels on a 32gb using DNG on a K5. Not sure if anyone mentioned it, the shutter is very quiet compared to K100D et al. Not silent but quiet. jpg takes more processing power in the camera, plus you want Raw anyway to processing :-) So may as well just shoot raw. I switched to raw only before our last trip and ain't going back. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise, I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance? Given what you've said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you really should get a 64GB card. I also recommend bringing a spare SD card reader, they're cheap. bring?? Aahz I'm not bringing a card reader to the wedding - its 30 minutes from my apartment by train, 10 by cab. :-) If I were going back to Alaska, you bet I'd bring lots of card - the smallness of the sd is an annoyance and I am klutzy, but I should have time to go to a second card if I need. Sorry! I think I got you and Walt mixed up. ;-) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Walt wrote: On 7/10/2013 11:48 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise, I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance? Given what you've said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you really should get a 64GB card. Also, you might want to consider using something like a pair of tweezers to get the SD card out of the K-5. I found it a little more difficult to pull out of the slot than on any of my other bodies due to the weather sealing. It holds it fairly snugly, and if you don't use the right touch when you press and release it, it doesn't eject the card quite as far and it can be a little tough to grasp with your fingertips. That wasn't my experience with two or three different K-5 II bodies, so either they changed things a tiny bit, your body is a bit different from spec, or I just didn't notice because I'm reasonably good with fiddly bits. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. Not wishing to throw a spanner into the works but does Elements 5 support PEFs from the K5? I could be wrong (hopefully) but the ACR plugin for Elements 5 might not. If so, you may have to use DNGs. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/11/2013 09:12, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: Aahz I'm not bringing a card reader to the wedding - its 30 minutes from my apartment by train, 10 by cab. :-) If I were going back to Alaska, you bet I'd bring lots of card - the smallness of the sd is an annoyance and I am klutzy, but I should have time to go to a second card if I need. Sorry! I think I got you and Walt mixed up. ;-) that's some mixup! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On 7/11/2013 09:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. Not wishing to throw a spanner into the works but does Elements 5 support PEFs from the K5? I could be wrong (hopefully) but the ACR plugin for Elements 5 might not. If so, you may have to use DNGs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Walt, check for a tiny sliver of plastic broken off from an SD card during an earlier insertion. Some SD card brands have thin plastic ridges around the SD card's contacts. These are fragile and break off, usually in your SD slot or a card reader. Very poor design! I've experienced this in both places. A few puffs from a blower bulb aimed into the slot removed the plastic and fixed the problem for me. BTW, this doesn't happen with the SanDisk cards. Nudge-nudge. :-) On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Also, you might want to consider using something like a pair of tweezers to get the SD card out of the K-5. I found it a little more difficult to pull out of the slot than on any of my other bodies due to the weather sealing. It holds it fairly snugly, and if you don't use the right touch when you press and release it, it doesn't eject the card quite as far and it can be a little tough to grasp with your fingertips. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For the K5's raw file size, 16 GB cards might offer the best compromise between capacity, cost redundancy (eggs/baskets). On 7/11/2013 8:14 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Christine - wel think a lot alike on these things... I would be unlikely to shoot more than 200 either and would, like you probably rather have more 8 gb cards than one 32 normally. Though in the situation I'll be in, with not a lot of time to chimp - and being all thumbs .. what I might do though, is shoot the wedding on once card and tuck it away before the reception and then if I feel like grabbing a few at the reception that I can't resist on a second card. Boris - I certainly will be practicing a lot :-) ann On 7/10/2013 22:56, Christine Aguila wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. A LOT!!! :-)) I only shoot on 8gig cards, so I don't know exactly how many frames fit on a 32 bigger. I think I get about 200 frames on an 8 gig card with RAW. I use 8 gigs because of the all eggs in one basket fear. Yep, you can turn off beeps on the K-5. You'll be amazed at how quiet the shutter is too. Can't wait to see your test/practice shots, Ann. You're going to have a lot of fun playing with the K-5 before your shoot. Cheers, Christine ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ann, for the quality of your final image: no practical difference. RAW is RAW. No lossy compression is used. One practical difference is how well compressed the RAW files are, and that affects your long-term file storage. Makes a difference when you have fifty thousand of them. Pentax created PEF is not as well compressed as Pentax created DNG which is not as well compressed as Adobe created DNG. So for best compression, create PEFs in camera then convert to DNG when importing into Lightroom or ACR. But since you are pulling your images into PSE for conversion to JPEG, you might be best off creating DNGs in camera as you're just going to be saving them to disk like that. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On 7/11/2013 09:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. Not wishing to throw a spanner into the works but does Elements 5 support PEFs from the K5? I could be wrong (hopefully) but the ACR plugin for Elements 5 might not. If so, you may have to use DNGs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? That doesn't matter much. I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? The difference is that DNG is an open standard (mostly true in practice in addition to theory), so any software that supports DNG works no matter what the manufacturer does, no need to wait for your software to get updated for your camera. It's one reason to like Pentax. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ann, include me in that manner of thinking as well. It's my nature to do all to protect against my rampant forgetful accidents. If I collect an image that I'm heart racing excited about, I protect it by switching cards and putting the treasure work in safe bag storage. I, also, prefer a supply of 8 gb ( maybe a couple 16's) for my use. Looking forward to news of your experience. Jack From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:14 AM Subject: Re: soon to be enabled Christine - wel think a lot alike on these things... I would be unlikely to shoot more than 200 either and would, like you probably rather have more 8 gb cards than one 32 normally. Though in the situation I'll be in, with not a lot of time to chimp - and being all thumbs .. what I might do though, is shoot the wedding on once card and tuck it away before the reception and then if I feel like grabbing a few at the reception that I can't resist on a second card. Boris - I certainly will be practicing a lot :-) ann On 7/10/2013 22:56, Christine Aguila wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. A LOT!!! :-)) I only shoot on 8gig cards, so I don't know exactly how many frames fit on a 32 bigger. I think I get about 200 frames on an 8 gig card with RAW. I use 8 gigs because of the all eggs in one basket fear. Yep, you can turn off beeps on the K-5. You'll be amazed at how quiet the shutter is too. Can't wait to see your test/practice shots, Ann. You're going to have a lot of fun playing with the K-5 before your shoot. Cheers, Christine ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE
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On 7/11/2013 09:40, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann, for the quality of your final image: no practical difference. RAW is RAW. No lossy compression is used. good. One practical difference is how well compressed the RAW files are, and that affects your long-term file storage. Makes a difference when you have fifty thousand of them Pentax created PEF is not as well compressed as Pentax created DNG which is not as well compressed as Adobe created DNG. So for best compression, create PEFs in camera then convert to DNG when importing into Lightroom or ACR. what is ACR? just curious. If all you are saying is that PEF takes up more room than a DNG it doesn't matter. I'm not a big volume shooter at this stage. ann But since you are pulling your images into PSE for conversion to JPEG, you might be best off creating DNGs in camera as you're just going to be saving them to disk like that. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On 7/11/2013 09:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. Not wishing to throw a spanner into the works but does Elements 5 support PEFs from the K5? I could be wrong (hopefully) but the ACR plugin for Elements 5 might not. If so, you may have to use DNGs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/11/2013 8:20 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise, I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance? Given what you've said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you really should get a 64GB card. I also recommend bringing a spare SD card reader, they're cheap. bring?? Aahz I'm not bringing a card reader to the wedding - its 30 minutes from my apartment by train, 10 by cab. :-) If I were going back to Alaska, you bet I'd bring lots of card - the smallness of the sd is an annoyance and I am klutzy, but I should have time to go to a second card if I need. I bet you think I have a laptop. hehe ann These are really good for carrying spare SD cards: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/859448-REG/Think_Tank_211_SD_Pixel_Pocket_Rocket.html I have one each for my K10D another for my K20D. ... and I like these for SD card readers: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/811411-REG/Vivitar_VIV_CR_35_SD_Card_Reader.html That style card reader is small enough I keep one in the business card slot of each of the Pixel-Pockets. I also keep spares at each of my computers one in my laptop bag. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/11/2013 9:53 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Pentax created PEF is not as well compressed as Pentax created DNG which is not as well compressed as Adobe created DNG. So for best compression, create PEFs in camera then convert to DNG when importing into Lightroom or ACR. what is ACR? just curious. If all you are saying is that PEF takes up more room than a DNG it doesn't matter. I'm not a big volume shooter at this stage. ann ACR is Adobe Camera Raw. It's a program Adobe supplies with PhotoShop Lightroom that prepares your raw file to be opened by PhotoShop, Elements or Lightroom. ACR is periodically updated to add support for the raw file of newer cameras as they come out. Versions of ACR are specific to the version of PhotoShop, Elements or Lightroom you have, so when Adobe comes out with a new version of the program, the version of ACR that matches older versions are no longer updated. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4920 The Camera Raw 6.3 plug-in is not compatible with versions of Photoshop Elements earlier than Photoshop Elements 9.0, or versions of Premiere Elements earlier than 9.0. The latest version of the Camera Raw plug-in available for Photoshop Elements 5.0 (Windows) is Camera Raw 4.5. But I don't think it will be a problem for K5 DNG files. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ann - See my off-list message. -p On 7/11/2013 8:29 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On 7/11/2013 09:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. Not wishing to throw a spanner into the works but does Elements 5 support PEFs from the K5? I could be wrong (hopefully) but the ACR plugin for Elements 5 might not. If so, you may have to use DNGs. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmm. I hadn't thought of that. It just always feels like the rubber gasket is snug and kind of impedes the ejection. I sort of came to view it as a feature rather than a bug (good sealing vs. ease of removal), and that my stubby fingers and nails were more the source of the problem than the camera itself. I'll give that a whirl and see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the tip! -- Walt On 7/11/2013 8:31 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Walt, check for a tiny sliver of plastic broken off from an SD card during an earlier insertion. Some SD card brands have thin plastic ridges around the SD card's contacts. These are fragile and break off, usually in your SD slot or a card reader. Very poor design! I've experienced this in both places. A few puffs from a blower bulb aimed into the slot removed the plastic and fixed the problem for me. BTW, this doesn't happen with the SanDisk cards. Nudge-nudge. :-) On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Also, you might want to consider using something like a pair of tweezers to get the SD card out of the K-5. I found it a little more difficult to pull out of the slot than on any of my other bodies due to the weather sealing. It holds it fairly snugly, and if you don't use the right touch when you press and release it, it doesn't eject the card quite as far and it can be a little tough to grasp with your fingertips. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2013-07-11 6:44 Ann Sanfedele wrote Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. just a thought, this gig might be worth ensuring the images are backed up to a second drive (at least) as soon as you download them -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't think that your version of Elements supports or can be made to support the K-5 version of the PEF format. You will probably need to shoot DNG or get the latest version of Adobe DNG converter and do it on your computer. I don't think there's any real advantage for you to be shooting PEF format with the k-5. Earlier Pentax cameras PEF files could be significantly smaller that DNG files but with the K-5 that's no longer an issue. I don't know how much memory your Dell has but if you can get enough to max it out I'd do it. The K20D which I'm using saves PEF files of 9 to 16 mb, (average 13-14), they expand when saved as TIFs to about 80mb, that's a pretty good analog to how much memory the un-manipulated image file will take up when you load it into memory, K-5 files will be probably twice that size. Invest in another terabyte of external storage I picked up a couple of 1tb external drives not long ago for under $40. It's amazing how fast they fill up. On 7/11/2013 8:44 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. I did get the confirming email from KEH - I splurged on the UPS second day air and the regular UPS guy knows me - he actually helped me id a couple of the buildings in the Back in the Day calendar :-) sounds like 32gb is more than I'll need for the wedding. ann On 7/10/2013 22:00, Gerrit Visser wrote: Give or take 800 angels on a 32gb using DNG on a K5. Not sure if anyone mentioned it, the shutter is very quiet compared to K100D et al. Not silent but quiet. jpg takes more processing power in the camera, plus you want Raw anyway to processing :-) So may as well just shoot raw. I switched to raw only before our last trip and ain't going back. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions
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The only difference between DNG and PEF from your perspective is the file extension, and the fact that your version of ELEMENTS can open the K-5 version, other than that nothing. The K20D and earlier cameras exported DNG files that were 30-40% larger than PEF files, that's the only reason I've stuck with shooting PEFs. On 7/11/2013 9:29 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On 7/11/2013 09:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. Not wishing to throw a spanner into the works but does Elements 5 support PEFs from the K5? I could be wrong (hopefully) but the ACR plugin for Elements 5 might not. If so, you may have to use DNGs. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Steve they will be on the card and my harddrive - then on a memory stick for the groom AND on smugmug... I have unlimited storage space on Smugmgu, pretty much But of course you are right :-) ann On 7/11/2013 14:30, steve harley wrote: on 2013-07-11 6:44 Ann Sanfedele wrote Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. just a thought, this gig might be worth ensuring the images are backed up to a second drive (at least) as soon as you download them -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks PJ for this, and the other mail about pefs and dngs important info - will do DNGS for sure then YOu guys are much too worried about how much space I have, I think. ann On 7/11/2013 14:39, P.J. Alling wrote: The only difference between DNG and PEF from your perspective is the file extension, and the fact that your version of ELEMENTS can open the K-5 version, other than that nothing. The K20D and earlier cameras exported DNG files that were 30-40% larger than PEF files, that's the only reason I've stuck with shooting PEFs. On 7/11/2013 9:29 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On 7/11/2013 09:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. Not wishing to throw a spanner into the works but does Elements 5 support PEFs from the K5? I could be wrong (hopefully) but the ACR plugin for Elements 5 might not. If so, you may have to use DNGs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution, and the files will tax your computer's capabilities. Now that you've got good eyes, you can enjoy it. You might want to check out buydig for a new K-5. They're selling for less than S100 more there than KEH is asking for good used ones. Sometimes buydig also has coupons that can save you a bit more too. On 7/10/2013 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote: Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution, and the files will tax your computer's capabilities. Now that you've got good eyes, you can enjoy it. You might want to check out buydig for a new K-5. They're selling for less than S100 more there than KEH is asking for good used ones. Sometimes buydig also has coupons that can save you a bit more too. According to resellerratings.com, buydig has a 7.2 score vs 9.6 for keh; I'd stick with keh, I've had enough problems even from high-scoring companies. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/BuyDig_Beachtr http://www.resellerratings.com/store/KEH_Camera_Brokers http://www.resellerratings.com/store/B_H_Photo_Video_Pro_Audio -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow. Forget buying another k-7. If I just wait a little while a k-30 or even k-5 will be cheap enough to consider as a backup. Either would be a step up in IQ. The focus peaking on the k-30 intrigues me too. Too bad the engine is only 12-bit. :( On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote: Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution, and the files will tax your computer's capabilities. Now that you've got good eyes, you can enjoy it. You might want to check out buydig for a new K-5. They're selling for less than S100 more there than KEH is asking for good used ones. Sometimes buydig also has coupons that can save you a bit more too. According to resellerratings.com, buydig has a 7.2 score vs 9.6 for keh; I'd stick with keh, I've had enough problems even from high-scoring companies. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/BuyDig_Beachtr http://www.resellerratings.com/store/KEH_Camera_Brokers http://www.resellerratings.com/store/B_H_Photo_Video_Pro_Audio -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Congratulations - you'll enjoy your new gadget! As far as numbering, I don't change the file number, but I do add to it. I started getting confused, well, more confused, about the time I had three different IMPG-2132 files and decided it was time for a new strategy. On import, files are renamed with a mmdd prefix. I also use the camera's capability to change the impg to something like _K5_. The final file name then is mmdd_K5_, and there is no chance of confusion with an image taken on the same day with a different camera, or with an image with the same camera 1 shots ago. stan On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Congratulations on getting the K-5. To paraphrase the Men's Wearhouse guy...You're gonna like the way it works...I guarantee it I still shoot PEFs and let Lightroom convert to DNG upon import as the Adobe conversion gives a slightly smaller file size. If I think I'll need a quick turnaround to put up a gallery, I'll shoot RAW+JPG with the JPG set to the smallest file size so they're web-ready. -p On 7/10/2013 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ann I get Lightroom to add the date to the start of each file name so it makes it easier to find pictures taken on a particular occasion. I only use raw, dng version. I you need a jpeg on site you can always process it individually in the camera. I normally leave the AWB alone and do any colour correction in Lightroom. For a wedding you need to concentrate on the action not camera settings. The higher ISO performance of these cameras is amazing so a flash is often not needed. Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 11/07/13 1:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Everyone - This is what I ordered from KEH tonight http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Digital-Camera-Bodies/1/sku-DP029991177660?r=FE# ... then got and email saying they wouldnt take my credit card money until they saw that they have the item in stock for sure. (tomorrow) fingers crossed ... Thanks for all the good input re the K-5 - I do have a good card reader that reads both CFs and SD's so I'm all set there. Definitely well get a spare battery. Have been happy with the PEF's the istD puts out, why would I need to DNG? (serious question) Can't imagine anything larger that an 16 gb sd card would be needed but I'll get a 32 as several of you mention it. I'll get to scout out the venue before the event (though I've been thre once before) It will be a relatively small wedding - maybe 65 to 70 and not a formal affair - Groom will not be wearing a tie. Bride is wearing (oh dear) _black_. should I worry about my friend the groom???:-) I'll only be shooting officially for a couple of hours.. posed pics before, then the very short ceremony. And the venue unencumbered by people, probably. In answer to the lens question, I doubt I'll be using the manual primes jsut the 18-55 kit lens and the 55-300, maybe. I'm not even sure I'll bother with that. I'll bring the istd bondy for backup. And pack my bag with the flash and rubber-band and card reflector - but hope I don't have to bring it out. I've done a fair number of weddings over the years, but all with film. Though the events I've shot with digital is basically the same kind of shooting . I want to get comfortable with the camera fast as I can. Not too fancy. ann On 7/10/2013 11:35, David J Brooks wrote: Ann. I have shot a few indoor events, no flash with iso around 3200 or higher and they came out fine in AWB. I shoot DNG's, my LR can handle the Pefs but my PS is old and does not handle the PEFs. I find LR 4 handles any noise just fine. I used to shoot raw/jpeg so i could load up a jalbum quikly Dave On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Give or take 800 angels on a 32gb using DNG on a K5. Not sure if anyone mentioned it, the shutter is very quiet compared to K100D et al. Not silent but quiet. jpg takes more processing power in the camera, plus you want Raw anyway to processing :-) So may as well just shoot raw. I switched to raw only before our last trip and ain't going back. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I made a quick on-line search, and it looks like you can get 2 - good quality 32GB Class 10 SDHC cards for slightly less than the cost of a single 64GB SDXC Class 10 card of the same quality. I'm not sure where BH is located in relation to where Ann lives, but if I'm calculating it correctly it comes out to about a $2 savings getting 2x32GB Cl 10 over 1x64GB Cl 10. Might be worth the walk if you're going out to exercise anyway? Plus the benefit of not having all your eggs in one basket. On 7/10/2013 2:03 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: Realistically, I doubt that you need more than a 32G card, which was at the peak for storage/dollar the last time I checked. A year ago, I shot for a week at dance/music events and used less than 32G per day. As people know, I am not shy about taking extra shots with digital, just to make sure that one of them turns out. Twice on my Alaska trip I ran through a 32GB card in a single day, so if Ann's at all worried about storage, my strong advice would be to go for 64GB (I'm glad I took my primary's advice about getting a pair of 32GB cards in addition to the pair of 16GB I started with). This was very little video, very little continuous shooting, and a fair number of bracket shots. Per previous e-mail, this was DNG, no JPEG. Another option might be to go for the EyeFi, but that would be pretty spendy -- just mentioning it for the record. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ann, that is =excellent=. You're gonna love it. Except for testing purposes, I've not used the flash with the camera in ~9000 exposures. The low light sensitivity is wonderful. I use straight DNG output (~300 shots fit on an 8GB card), rename them on import into Lightroom (Bloggs Weddg 8-13 #__), and processing is simple from that point. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:09 AM Subject: soon to be enabled I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maybe not the best comparison, since he got fired last month. ;-D On 7/10/2013 8:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Congratulations on getting the K-5. To paraphrase the Men's Wearhouse guy...You're gonna like the way it works...I guarantee it I still shoot PEFs and let Lightroom convert to DNG upon import as the Adobe conversion gives a slightly smaller file size. If I think I'll need a quick turnaround to put up a gallery, I'll shoot RAW+JPG with the JPG set to the smallest file size so they're web-ready. -p On 7/10/2013 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. A LOT!!! :-)) I only shoot on 8gig cards, so I don't know exactly how many frames fit on a 32 bigger. I think I get about 200 frames on an 8 gig card with RAW. I use 8 gigs because of the all eggs in one basket fear. Yep, you can turn off beeps on the K-5. You'll be amazed at how quiet the shutter is too. Can't wait to see your test/practice shots, Ann. You're going to have a lot of fun playing with the K-5 before your shoot. Cheers, Christine ann On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great news, Ann. You're going to enjoy your new camera. The only thing I can suggest is that you shoot extensively with K-5 before you do any serious work (such as your friend's wedding) with it. It has very different rhythm than *istD (or K10D for that matter, which is from where I transitioned to K-7). I do suggest that you set your K-5 to output DNGs. I don't even remember if it can do PEFs. And certainly - welcome back! On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise, I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance? Given what you've said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you really should get a 64GB card. I also recommend bringing a spare SD card reader, they're cheap. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/10/2013 11:48 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise, I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance? Given what you've said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you really should get a 64GB card. I also recommend bringing a spare SD card reader, they're cheap. Also, you might want to consider using something like a pair of tweezers to get the SD card out of the K-5. I found it a little more difficult to pull out of the slot than on any of my other bodies due to the weather sealing. It holds it fairly snugly, and if you don't use the right touch when you press and release it, it doesn't eject the card quite as far and it can be a little tough to grasp with your fingertips. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? For my Alaska cruise, I decided to skip the JPEGs to make the camera a little faster and save room on the SD cards. I used DNG instead of PEF, makes more sense because I'm on Linux. I'd stick with keh.com as a reliable source, myself (bhphoto.com has some things keh doesn't, but it's more spendy, so anything on keh gets priority IMO). You probably could save money by getting an EX or EX+ instead of LN-, keh seems to be conservative in their ratings. What lenses were you thinking of using? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Congratulations Ann! You are going to LOVE the K-5. I think you will be happy with the AWB in most situations. You will need SD cards instead of the CF cards that the *istD uses (and thus a different card reader/adapter). The cheap USB adapters on ebay work fine. Update to the latest firmware as soon as you get your body. I would recommend getting the 64GB Sony SDXC card so you don't have to worry about changing out cards during the wedding/reception. It also reads/writes very fast. http://www.adorama.com/ISO64GSXC10U.html On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Ann Welcome to the joys of K5-land. K5 outputs DNG so no conversion needed. I used to shoot only jpg until I finally got the hang of LR, now it is Raw only. LR can take care of fixing the WB, I think mine is set to cloudy on the camera. (Bruce had it for a while so have to check :-) High ISO is awesome, I will shortly post a shot taken handheld from back of an auditorium. This link brings you to a set of photos taken with just the avail ligth indoors: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.299828163432435type=1 Hope that helps a bit Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: soon to be enabled I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have no problems shooting in AWB with the K-5. I always make sure I have some frames with gray or white in them, so I can readjust white balance when converting if necessary, but AWB usually nails it. Tungsten light would be an exception, but as long as you have that gray or white reference you don't have to worry. You shouldn't have any trouble shooting without flash at the ceremony and for portraits. Ideally, you'll want to do the portraits outdoors in shade or backlit with a reflector at camera -- but you know that. I'd try a bit of both. At the ceremony I wouldn't hesitate to go at ISO 3200 and would go to 6400 if necessary, particularly for BW shots. Best, Paul On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ann. I have shot a few indoor events, no flash with iso around 3200 or higher and they came out fine in AWB. I shoot DNG's, my LR can handle the Pefs but my PS is old and does not handle the PEFs. I find LR 4 handles any noise just fine. I used to shoot raw/jpeg so i could load up a jalbum quikly Dave On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You have been anointed ! I'm so pleased for you. It's all even sweetened due to its being acquired as a direct result of applying your considerable photographic (artistic) skill. Your good friend is getting a bargain. Great!! Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:09 AM Subject: soon to be enabled I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09:18AM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. Excellent news Ann! IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? I have jpeg set at 2MP, so that when I need JPEGs right away, they are already sized for the web and don't take up a lot of space. I don't often use RAW+JPEG, but if I need JPEGS, I do it that way rather than setting it to JPEG, if for no other reason than to prevent me from losing raw files by forgetting to set it back. any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Welcome back. I am sure that you will like the K-5. Third party spare batteries are not very expensive. It takes a few charge cycles to get the full capacity out of a new battery. If you don't like fumbling with SD cards, just invest in a 64GB card. It will last you through the whole wedding. I know that this suggestion borders on heresy, you could also tell your friend that if they buy a Sandisk extreme 64GB card for you to use, once you have copied all the files onto your computer for processing, you could just give them the huge card with all of the raw (or raw and web sized jpegs) files to keep. Realistically, I doubt that you need more than a 32G card, which was at the peak for storage/dollar the last time I checked. A year ago, I shot for a week at dance/music events and used less than 32G per day. As people know, I am not shy about taking extra shots with digital, just to make sure that one of them turns out. One advantage of the bigger card, and spare battery, is that would give you plenty of extra storage and battery for taking video clips. I also recommend that you experiment with live view, before the event. When shooting in low light situations, live view can be invaluable for framing, and particularly for manual focus. Make sure that you go through the menu ahead of time, and turn off all of the beeps. Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5 does have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body responses. You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no distraction. Easy to do in the Menu Options. I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW. I don't renumber any of my RAW files either. I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom. Very excited for you. Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera. Big cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one. IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from the D... I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs? any suggestions at all are welcome. boy, it is nice to be back! Regards, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: Realistically, I doubt that you need more than a 32G card, which was at the peak for storage/dollar the last time I checked. A year ago, I shot for a week at dance/music events and used less than 32G per day. As people know, I am not shy about taking extra shots with digital, just to make sure that one of them turns out. Twice on my Alaska trip I ran through a 32GB card in a single day, so if Ann's at all worried about storage, my strong advice would be to go for 64GB (I'm glad I took my primary's advice about getting a pair of 32GB cards in addition to the pair of 16GB I started with). This was very little video, very little continuous shooting, and a fair number of bracket shots. Per previous e-mail, this was DNG, no JPEG. Another option might be to go for the EyeFi, but that would be pretty spendy -- just mentioning it for the record. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: re-enabled 77 back from CRIS
On 6/7/2013 3:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: My FA77 returned home from CRIS last night. The focus ring is no longer wobbly. Repairs were only $74 plus shipping. I'm happy. I missed it. And somehow, I resisted the impusle to buy an 85/1.4 while the 77 was off on it's roadtrip. That was admirable self restraint... -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re-enabled 77 back from CRIS
My FA77 returned home from CRIS last night. The focus ring is no longer wobbly. Repairs were only $74 plus shipping. I'm happy. I missed it. And somehow, I resisted the impusle to buy an 85/1.4 while the 77 was off on it's roadtrip. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Enabled
Got J.M.'s 70/2.4 LTD. Nice. Pretty black with a black cap to match. Took two shots with it right away. I'm a happy camper. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
enabled again
On its way soon ... FA35/2. That makes my lenses just primes -- FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.4, A50/2.8 Macro, and M*300/4. I've tried zooms, including some good ones. The convenience is nice, but they have never satisfied me. Perhaps I just need to get a really good one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: enabled again
Collin, have you used the DA* 16-50/2.8 or the DA* 50-135/2.8? Just curious. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: On its way soon ... FA35/2. That makes my lenses just primes -- FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.4, A50/2.8 Macro, and M*300/4. I've tried zooms, including some good ones. The convenience is nice, but they have never satisfied me. Perhaps I just need to get a really good one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: enabled again
Collin, have you used the DA* 16-50/2.8 or the DA* 50-135/2.8? Just curious. Have not. Would love to. But I've also seen the price tags. Although I could sell the 28/35/50 and come close to a break-even on the 16-50. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
enabled! woot!
Just took delivery of DA 12-24mm/f4 and DA* 55mm/f1.4, - just did some back focus testing and they are both spot on, and super sharp! Gotta go have me some fun! Cant wait for my gig this Sunday Tan. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. 540FGZ
On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I second that. Lots of features, non-obvious UI. Work great when you figure 'em out though. Work great when you figure them out, and you want to do something that Pentax thought you should do. Good luck if you ever want to shoot in manual mode though. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. 540FGZ
On 11-07-13 3:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I second that. Lots of features, non-obvious UI. Work great when you figure 'em out though. Work great when you figure them out, and you want to do something that Pentax thought you should do. Good luck if you ever want to shoot in manual mode though. Manual mode is what I do mostly with them. They work predictably and consistently that way, for me. More than one and P-TTL is pretty much useless. BTW: I cleaned all the battery contacts with a contact cleaner last night and some random trouble I was having went away. Used a q-tip to reach the bottom of the battery compartment. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Enabled. 540FGZ
Just recently got a 2nd hand unit. Looks very clean with no sign of use. Only have its smaller brother prevously. Finally able to take some larger flash photos where the 360 was short on power. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. 540FGZ
James, You'll have to give it a workout to understand all the features. I bought one several years ago and still need the manual. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:39 AM, sky s...@eftel.net.au wrote: Just recently got a 2nd hand unit. Looks very clean with no sign of use. Only have its smaller brother prevously. Finally able to take some larger flash photos where the 360 was short on power. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. 540FGZ
I second that. Lots of features, non-obvious UI. Work great when you figure 'em out though. Also, give all the contacts (eg inside the battery compartment) a good cleaning. My 540's have been acting up lately and I found I had to clean off the battery contacts thoroughly to fix that. Batteries too. -bmw On 11-07-11 11:02 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: James, You'll have to give it a workout to understand all the features. I bought one several years ago and still need the manual. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:39 AM, skys...@eftel.net.au wrote: Just recently got a 2nd hand unit. Looks very clean with no sign of use. Only have its smaller brother prevously. Finally able to take some larger flash photos where the 360 was short on power. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. 540FGZ
Congrats! I hope to step up to the 540 some day. Still using the 360 myself. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: sky s...@eftel.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:39 AM Subject: Enabled. 540FGZ Just recently got a 2nd hand unit. Looks very clean with no sign of use. Only have its smaller brother prevously. Finally able to take some larger flash photos where the 360 was short on power. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX
Just got it off Fleabay. Is for my wife however :( Heavy bit of Glass. Very clean and smooth. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX
Congrats! IIRC there are two versions of that lens? if so, which one? Enjoy! Ecke 2011/6/9 sky s...@eftel.net.au: Just got it off Fleabay. Is for my wife however :( Heavy bit of Glass. Very clean and smooth. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX
umm. I don't know. it doesn't have OS it is 70-200mm 1:2.8 II macro hsm if that helps. Is that good or bad James On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:35:49 +0200, Ecke PDML wrote: Congrats! IIRC there are two versions of that lens? if so, which one? Enjoy! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX
if it says II it is the newer version which I guess is usually good =) I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade version but I have no idea which letter soup denotes which... I am saving all my pennies for (amongst other unobtainium) a DA*60-250 so I haven't really been looking at other lenses at all. but let me put it this way, more lenses are always good unless you're fresh out of LBA clinic andyour camera wears an electronic lens mount shackle =) 2011/6/9 sky s...@eftel.net.au: umm. I don't know. it doesn't have OS it is 70-200mm 1:2.8 II macro hsm if that helps. Is that good or bad James On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:35:49 +0200, Ecke PDML wrote: Congrats! IIRC there are two versions of that lens? if so, which one? Enjoy! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com wrote: I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade version but I have no idea which letter soup denotes which... -- If I grok sigma letter soup rightly, EX means pro grade all the way through. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX
Great! short for EXcellent maybe =) 2011/6/9 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com wrote: I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade version but I have no idea which letter soup denotes which... -- If I grok sigma letter soup rightly, EX means pro grade all the way through. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX
If I remember correctly as for the Sigma 70-200/2.8, here are the different modern versions: - 70-200/2.8 EX DG - 70-200/2.8 EX DG Macro II (a bit less good than the former) - 70-200/2.8 EX DG Macro HSM (which really wasn't HSM in its Pentax version but often refered as being HSM in shops) - 70-200/2.8 EX DG Macro HSM II (indeed HSM in Pentax version this time) - 70-200/2.8 DG Macro HSM OS (why not EX, I dunno but OS means internal stabilization like Canon IS). 2011/6/9 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com: Great! short for EXcellent maybe =) 2011/6/9 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com wrote: I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade version but I have no idea which letter soup denotes which... -- If I grok sigma letter soup rightly, EX means pro grade all the way through. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5
This one is excellent: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194968-REG/Hakuba_KGP_02.html On May 5, 2011, at 11:57 PM, s...@eftel.net.au wrote: This is going to happen, but not right now. After spending $3000 on 2 bodies, the pennys are rather hard to find. I do like the different strap idea. She wants a strap that goes over hand so she can hang on to the camera better. Just need to find one. James Put a battery grip on one of them -- yours of course. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Enabled. from K10D to k5
hi This was more or less forced apon me. Orignally, sent my 15-50 2.8 lens in to be repaired after it stopped focusing. I checked lens on another camera in store before I blamed the lens and asked store to have it fixed. Lens is 3 years old so well out of warenty. Some 2 months later after not hearing a thing, chased up what was going on. Apperantly the store was noteafied some 6 weeks earlier but noone thought to ring me. Repair place wanted my body as well because the lens worked on the wide range of cameras they have?! Latter, recieved call saying they are going to send lens to CRK in melbourne. they checked every combination the repair place has (what ever that means) and said both camera and lens is fine except when together. I asked for my body back because i wanted it for easter. repair place said no, we may need to replace the lens mount on body. GR!! So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an upgrade. My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her K100D. Bigger upgrade Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a quick glance Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc.. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5
Congratulations. For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to each of your initials. On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote: hi This was more or less forced apon me. Orignally, sent my 15-50 2.8 lens in to be repaired after it stopped focusing. I checked lens on another camera in store before I blamed the lens and asked store to have it fixed. Lens is 3 years old so well out of warenty. Some 2 months later after not hearing a thing, chased up what was going on. Apperantly the store was noteafied some 6 weeks earlier but noone thought to ring me. Repair place wanted my body as well because the lens worked on the wide range of cameras they have?! Latter, recieved call saying they are going to send lens to CRK in melbourne. they checked every combination the repair place has (what ever that means) and said both camera and lens is fine except when together. I asked for my body back because i wanted it for easter. repair place said no, we may need to replace the lens mount on body. GR!! So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an upgrade. My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her K100D. Bigger upgrade Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a quick glance Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc.. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Enabled. from K10D to k5
So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an upgrade. James Very nice. When I had K10D I too had problems, just blamed them on my technique. Then K20D improved my results and K-5 was a real leap forward. Now many say that buying new gear is not the answer but in the case of Pentax DSLRs my experience has been the opposite. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5
On 5/5/2011 11:54, sky wrote: So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an upgrade. My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her K100D. Bigger upgrade Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a quick glance Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc.. Good to hear that you found a way out of your predicament, James. As for ID'ing the camera, I suggest you take a look at Copyright Info feature. In a nutshell, you can simply record in camera the name of the photographer that will automatically be put into metadata of images the camera would take. This info is also shown by the camera when you review the info of the picture taken with it. There are of course less geeky way to do it, say, by having slightly different camera straps. Or by having a grip attached to your camera and not attaching it to that of your wife, etc. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5
On Thu, 5 May 2011 01:55:58 -0700, Larry Colen wrote: Congratulations. For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to each of your initials. On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote: Mighty fine idea. Thanks. Now need an external quick ID. Maybe put a huge scratch in hers :P... James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5
On May 5, 2011, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 5/5/2011 11:54, sky wrote: There are of course less geeky way to do it, say, by having slightly different camera straps. Or by having a grip attached to your camera and not attaching it to that of your wife, etc. Put the FA77 on yours. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5
On May 5, 2011, at 5:45 AM, sky wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2011 01:55:58 -0700, Larry Colen wrote: Congratulations. For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to each of your initials. On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote: Mighty fine idea. Thanks. Now need an external quick ID. Maybe put a huge scratch in hers :P... Put a battery grip on one of them -- yours of course. Paul James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.