Goodbye!
After exactly three years on this list, I just want to say goodbye as I will be leaving the list for quite some time, and indeed perhaps permanently. Finances arent the best at the moment in fact theyve taken a significant turn for the worse. Though Im by no means destitute, I am even considering selling my '75 Dodge Dart since I mainly take the bus anyway. And Im trying to scale back on the non-essentials and hobbies (of which photography is one of the most expensive). My favorite hobby anyway is reading and I will concentrate a lot on that since it is pretty much free. I also mean to concentrate on getting my jazz radio show off the ground at a local community station as well as to work on a few other mainly volunteer things so that Im not just taking up space on the planet. This list is just too darned good at enabling! What little money I do have for photography I am going to try to spend on Sensia slides and Fuji mailers...and Ill try to forget about all that equipment I just "need" to have! (How funny it would be to me now if Pentax finally announces a new film flagship - a true PZ-1p successor or perhaps a limited LXAF sort of SLR - at PMA!) Any extra equipment bucks I have (though I can foresee precious little) will probably go towards the occasional new Hexanon the Konica AR kit is so much less expensive and yet very much to my liking. (Ill also be using my Yashica Flex TLR which fortunately for my finances doesnt accommodate interchangeable lenses or many useful accessories! And Im falling in love with the ground glass lately.) At least I dont anticipate having to sell any Pentax lenses. This list also takes so darned much time! Ive never been much of a "money" person but Ive figured out that to get my life above a subsistence level I have to start working brutally hard (and I should probably get a bit better at kissing ass and self-promoting and all that nonsense, though I dont know whether I can stomach that sort of thing). The internet in general is such a distraction from productivity; this list in particular is so high-volume and time-consuming. Anyway, thanks to everyone for all youve taught me! Ive taken so much more than Ive given. Though Ive never been popular or good at making friends, I met a few here and I do feel there is a certain sense of community and good will on this list, of which I feel I was occasionally a part, and which I will certainly miss. Good luck to everyone throughout the world in any difficult times ahead. Rob _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Goodbye
This email address will no longer work after today, so I am unsubscribing from the group. It's been fun. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye!
Though we've had our differences, which I truly regret, I hate to see you go, as I hate to lose any of our members. Good luck in your endeavors and remember that you are always welcome on the PDML. Doug former Dart Swinger owner At 04:39 PM 1/31/03, you wrote: After exactly three years on this list, I just want to say goodbye as I will be leaving the list for quite some time, and indeed perhaps permanently. Finances arent the best at the moment in fact theyve taken a significant turn for the worse. Though Im by no means destitute, I am even considering selling my '75 Dodge Dart since I mainly take the bus anyway. And Im trying to scale back on the non-essentials and hobbies (of which photography is one of the most expensive). My favorite hobby anyway is reading and I will concentrate a lot on that since it is pretty much free. I also mean to concentrate on getting my jazz radio show off the ground at a local community station as well as to work on a few other mainly volunteer things so that Im not just taking up space on the planet. This list is just too darned good at enabling! What little money I do have for photography I am going to try to spend on Sensia slides and Fuji mailers...and Ill try to forget about all that equipment I just "need" to have! (How funny it would be to me now if Pentax finally announces a new film flagship - a true PZ-1p successor or perhaps a limited LXAF sort of SLR - at PMA!) Any extra equipment bucks I have (though I can foresee precious little) will probably go towards the occasional new Hexanon the Konica AR kit is so much less expensive and yet very much to my liking. (Ill also be using my Yashica Flex TLR which fortunately for my finances doesnt accommodate interchangeable lenses or many useful accessories! And Im falling in love with the ground glass lately.) At least I dont anticipate having to sell any Pentax lenses. This list also takes so darned much time! Ive never been much of a "money" person but Ive figured out that to get my life above a subsistence level I have to start working brutally hard (and I should probably get a bit better at kissing ass and self-promoting and all that nonsense, though I dont know whether I can stomach that sort of thing). The internet in general is such a distraction from productivity; this list in particular is so high-volume and time-consuming. Anyway, thanks to everyone for all youve taught me! Ive taken so much more than Ive given. Though Ive never been popular or good at making friends, I met a few here and I do feel there is a certain sense of community and good will on this list, of which I feel I was occasionally a part, and which I will certainly miss. Good luck to everyone throughout the world in any difficult times ahead. Rob
RE: Goodbye!
I hope the ass-kissing and self-promotion pay off. Please drop us a line and tell us how you are every once in a while. Goodbye and good luck! tv > -Original Message- > From: Robert Soames Wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Goodbye! > > > After exactly three years on this list, I just want to say > goodbye as I will > be leaving the list for quite some time, and indeed perhaps > permanently. >
Re: Goodbye!
Sorry to see you go Rob: maybe you could just tune in from time to time to see what's happening? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Robert Soames Wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: Goodbye! > Anyway, thanks to everyone for all youve taught me! Ive taken so much > more than Ive given. Though Ive never been popular or good at making > friends, I met a few here and I do feel there is a certain sense of > community and good will on this list, of which I feel I was occasionally a > part, and which I will certainly miss. > > Good luck to everyone throughout the world in any difficult times ahead. > > Rob > > > > > > > _ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > >
Re: Goodbye!
Sorry I'm late on this, Robert. The Digests have become infrequent and sporadic again, and I'm unfortunately missing quite a bit. Can be a blessing in disguise though ;-) Best of luck for the future, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Goodbye!
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:39 PM, Robert Soames Wetmore wrote: After exactly three years on this list, I just want to say goodbye as I will be leaving the list for quite some time, and indeed perhaps permanently. Good luck to you Robert. Dan Scott
Goodbye winter
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070130154732 ^^^ Had enough of the snow and cold already, now happy to say goodbye winter, as days are warm and snow is gone by now. In memory of those sunny cold days. -- new photos ever so often... <http://roman.blakout.net/> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Goodbye Rebel
Well I just got my first Pentax DSLR, a used *ist D. So far I'm impressed and when combined with my SMCT 50 1.4, well you know how that feels. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Goodbye, Cameras
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Goodbye Cameras
Hi Bruce & Boris Sirs, New Year Greetings. Pentax does not use optical plastic elements in their K- mount lenses including the 18-55 kit lens or the cheaper primes. Yes they do use plastic in the Aspheric lens elements. This plastic is deposited over the glass lens in ridges. Hence aspherical elements do not have a perfectly smooth finish over the lens curvature as in pure glass lenses. But due to manufacturing or material defects, some aspheric lenses have shown separation and damage between the plastic and glass interface in the form of fogging - like if you lightly sandpaper a clear glass sheet. Some very expensive lenses do not use plastic deposits on aspheric lenses at all. Instead each ridge is cut and polished in the glass itself. This explains why such lenses are very costly and why they are so sharp too. Regards. Bipin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Goodbye Pentax
Effective immediately I'm switching all of my equipment to Nikon brand. I used to have an F2 that was a beautiful camera, and I realized lately that there's no way my Pentaxes can meet that standard. I'm going to miss giving up those Limited lenses, but Nikon's new Fun Lenses look too enticing to resist. Imagine getting a fisheye for that little money. Har! I'll probably still keep one of my broken Pentaxes around just to remind me of what an awful camera it was. If you shoot Pentax these days, then the best of luck to ye! Did I ever tell you about the time I got those 40/2.8's for $10? Almost as good as my $40 Nikon F2 that I found yesterday. Har again! William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye
Hope to see you back soon. tv John Francis wrote: > > This email address will no longer work after today, > so I am unsubscribing from the group. It's been fun. > > -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye
On Thu, 24 May 2001, John Francis wrote: > This email address will no longer work after today, > so I am unsubscribing from the group. It's been fun. We're going to miss you... you sure you don't feel like getting another address? :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Goodbye LX
We spoke to our supplier in Japan today about the non-appearing screens. They said Pentax no longer supply LX, quoted the discontinue notice (announced recently on Japan website), and mumbled something about Pentax making a huge loss on LX & accessories. Nonetheless, we have a back-order with them for the screens, and some other items. They may or may not turn up - you guys will be the first to hear. We unexpectedly have a surplus Pentax 510v Power Pack available. We will turn it over at cost GBP120 inc VAT. Note that you will have to make your own arrangements for the "laminate" battery pack. Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye winter
On 10/3/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070130154732 >^^^ Had enough of the snow and cold already, now happy to say goodbye >winter, as days are warm and snow is gone by now. In memory of those >sunny cold days. Nice but I prefer the young blokes in string vests. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Goodbye winter
Distorted images from super wide angle and fish eyes and most of the DRI/HDR stuff simply does not work for me, sorry Roman. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:11 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Goodbye winter On 10/3/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070130154732 >^^^ Had enough of the snow and cold already, now happy to say goodbye >winter, as days are warm and snow is gone by now. In memory of those >sunny cold days. Nice but I prefer the young blokes in string vests. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Goodbye winter
I quite like this one, but it's a little over saturated IMO. Cheers, Dave On 3/11/07, Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070130154732 > ^^^ Had enough of the snow and cold already, now happy to say goodbye > winter, as days are warm and snow is gone by now. In memory of those > sunny cold days. > > -- > new photos ever so often... <http://roman.blakout.net/> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Goodbye winter
In a message dated 3/10/2007 12:27:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070130154732 ^^^ Had enough of the snow and cold already, now happy to say goodbye winter, as days are warm and snow is gone by now. In memory of those sunny cold days. = The colors are too harsh for me, otherwise it works. Marnie aka Doe ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Goodbye Rebel
A very fine combination, indeed! Congratulations. I have shot 2 *istD bodies for the past couple of years. -- Bruce Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:58:27 PM, you wrote: EH> Well I just got my first Pentax DSLR, a used *ist D. So far I'm EH> impressed and when combined with my SMCT 50 1.4, well you know how EH> that feels. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Goodbye Rebel
At 5:58 PM -0500 1/23/07, Evan Hanson wrote: >Well I just got my first Pentax DSLR, a used *ist D. So far I'm >impressed and when combined with my SMCT 50 1.4, well you know how >that feels. Sweet! I am starting to get the hang of my new *ist D, which I've had for about a month, now. The initial learning curve was steep, compared to other new cameras I've bought in the past (I'd still rather use switches and dials like the MZ-S and ZX-5N have, instead of buttons and menus). However, I took some shots of my model railroad last week with the D and my FA 50mm macro which came out beautifully. -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Goodbye Rebel
Congratulations on your purchase. Odd though to read that when I've just sold mine and now don't have a digital camera at all ;) Cory - Original Message - From: "Evan Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:58 PM Subject: Goodbye Rebel > Well I just got my first Pentax DSLR, a used *ist D. So far I'm > impressed and when combined with my SMCT 50 1.4, well you know how > that feels. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 > 11:04 AM > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
My wife has completely abandoned her Nikon for the iPhone 5s, and my son uses his for almost everything now. I am stubborn, and cling to my old-fashioned DSLR, probably because I understand how to use it a bit better than I do the phone camera. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html > > > -- > I don't have a problem with idiots. > I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The 20% decline in sales of mirror-less cameras has all the manufacturer's attention. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html > > > -- > I don't have a problem with idiots. > I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
2013's 43% decline in sales of ALL cameras across the board has even more of the manufacturers attention. Godfrey > On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > > The 20% decline in sales of mirror-less cameras has all the > manufacturer's attention. > >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html >> >> >> -- >> I don't have a problem with idiots. >> I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
OTOH, my son is doing very nice things with my old K10D, and loves having control over shutter speed and DOF. His iPhone 5 gets a lot of use for casual snaps, but other photography is done on the DSLR. Rick On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:51 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > My wife has completely abandoned her Nikon for the iPhone 5s, and my > son uses his for almost everything now. I am stubborn, and cling to > my old-fashioned DSLR, probably because I understand how to use it a > bit better than I do the phone camera. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html >> >> >> -- >> I don't have a problem with idiots. >> I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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His conclusion may make sense in his essential worldview of journalism and social networking. "transform[s] an otherwise innocuous photo of an empty field near Fukushima into an entirely different object." But as someone who enjoys seeing his work printed, and especially printed large, and captures images of things that no camera phone can capture, I reject his conclusion that standalone cameras have reached their evolutionary end. The path has forked: with the tools of deliberate craftsmen and artisans going one way and social networkers the other. What camera phones really do is separate networking snapshooters from the much smaller group of folks like us. And t'aint nothin' wrong with that. On the rare occasion that I'm in snapshot mode I'd rather have a simple device with the simplicity of a Brownie box than my complex and bulky DSLR. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html > > > -- > I don't have a problem with idiots. > I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think he is confusing things. What defines a "camera" looks like a problem. It seems that we view a real camera as one with image controls, any of tilt/shift/aperture/shutter speed. So, did the real camera, the view camera as we know it, disappear when Kodak introduced the Brownie as the point-and-shoot with little or no image control? Didn't happen then. But the miniature formats matured. Once 135 became too expensive for the average shooter we got 126, then disc and 110. Digital is going through the same process -- some things mature and some deconstruct. But it is all just a way to get things to the masses. It would not surprise me if a forthcoming p&s digital will not only include exposure controls (that was done long ago) but at the same time being reduced in size to something like a phone with all the amenities like Bluetooth and WiFi. What's next? Who knows. It all depends on the times and the pocketbooks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
What gets me about this story, and the many others in the same vein, is that they all seem to completely ignore the importance of optics in photography. I can't imagine anyone who cares about photography enough to spend money on a 77/1.8 Ltd. suddenly saying to themselves, "You know what? Screw that. I'm getting an iPhone. That'll be good enough." -- Walt On 1/2/2014 10:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
People like that have always been in a minority. The people who are using their iPads and phones to take pictures are the people who used the cheapest p&s cameras, and they're the cameras that will disappear. There will continue to be a small market for enthusiasts and the few professionals that remain, but my guess is that using a high-end camera will become as rare as using a medium format camera used to be. When the Leica first came out professionals dismissed it on the grounds of image quality, but they hadn't learned to exploit it's unique properties. Same thing will happen again. B > On 2 Jan 2014, at 20:23, Walt wrote: > > What gets me about this story, and the many others in the same vein, is that > they all seem to completely ignore the importance of optics in photography. > > I can't imagine anyone who cares about photography enough to spend money on a > 77/1.8 Ltd. suddenly saying to themselves, "You know what? Screw that. I'm > getting an iPhone. That'll be good enough." > > -- Walt > > >> On 1/2/2014 10:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
On 02/01/2014 2:23 PM, Walt wrote: What gets me about this story, and the many others in the same vein, is that they all seem to completely ignore the importance of optics in photography. It's only important to certain snobby types who have an inflated ego and derive their self worth from how big a collection of expensive toys they have. I can't imagine anyone who cares about photography enough to spend money on a 77/1.8 Ltd. suddenly saying to themselves, "You know what? Screw that. I'm getting an iPhone. That'll be good enough." Most people don't care enough about photography to spend the money on a 77mm LTD anyway. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/2/2014 11:27 AM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html Alright, I managed to post my first thought when I tried to delete and start over. This is the same reasoning that proclaims the end of the PC (Mac or Microsoft doesn't matter), and it's replacement with tablets, or smart phones or whatever. The PC will be replaced with only as the primary information consumption device. Content producers, (and software producers as well), will still need the power and other capabilities of the PC. Just because the majority of individuals don't need one doesn't mean that they will disappear, only that they won't be so ubiquitous. Then again if most P&S digital cameras simply disapeared to be replaced by smart phones and tablets would most people miss them. Almost every one of them have been almost painful to use compared to a [D]SLR or high end mirrorless camera. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
On 1/2/2014 3:12 PM, Bill wrote: On 02/01/2014 2:23 PM, Walt wrote: What gets me about this story, and the many others in the same vein, is that they all seem to completely ignore the importance of optics in photography. It's only important to certain snobby types who have an inflated ego and derive their self worth from how big a collection of expensive toys they have. I can't imagine anyone who cares about photography enough to spend money on a 77/1.8 Ltd. suddenly saying to themselves, "You know what? Screw that. I'm getting an iPhone. That'll be good enough." Most people don't care enough about photography to spend the money on a 77mm LTD anyway. bill It's a small wonder the SLR and concomitant lenses ever existed, isn't it? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
On 02/01/2014 3:36 PM, Walt wrote: On 1/2/2014 3:12 PM, Bill wrote: On 02/01/2014 2:23 PM, Walt wrote: What gets me about this story, and the many others in the same vein, is that they all seem to completely ignore the importance of optics in photography. It's only important to certain snobby types who have an inflated ego and derive their self worth from how big a collection of expensive toys they have. I can't imagine anyone who cares about photography enough to spend money on a 77/1.8 Ltd. suddenly saying to themselves, "You know what? Screw that. I'm getting an iPhone. That'll be good enough." Most people don't care enough about photography to spend the money on a 77mm LTD anyway. bill It's a small wonder the SLR and concomitant lenses ever existed, isn't it? -- Walt The hue and cry is because they are apparently under threat of becoming less main stream. Except they were never main stream. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/2/2014 6:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html Darren, have you held in your hands Panasonic GM1 and the pancake kit zoom lens? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 1/2/2014 6:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >>http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html > > Darren, have you held in your hands Panasonic GM1 and the pancake > kit zoom lens? Yeah, I have (renting one right now from lensrentals.com along with a buttload of other bodies and lenses to test out the m43 line), not sure what your point is. Nice camera (usable, unlike the other m43 midgets because it has a dial in back), but in some ways not as good as my Canon G1X (less zoom, smaller aperture wide). I would almost buy the G2X sight unseen if it has an F2 lens, usable macro, and a slightly better sensor. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. On 1/4/2014 8:54 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: On 1/2/2014 6:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html Darren, have you held in your hands Panasonic GM1 and the pancake kit zoom lens? Yeah, I have (renting one right now from lensrentals.com along with a buttload of other bodies and lenses to test out the m43 line), not sure what your point is. Nice camera (usable, unlike the other m43 midgets because it has a dial in back), but in some ways not as good as my Canon G1X (less zoom, smaller aperture wide). I would almost buy the G2X sight unseen if it has an F2 lens, usable macro, and a slightly better sensor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: > > My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And > this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is > seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >> this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >> seriously real deal. > > Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that > most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will > stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Aahz, I have to very respectfully disagree. Have a look on Voigtlander Nokton 40/1.4. Given its speed, it is positively very small. And to boot it naturally covers the so called full frame. The Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is also very small. So you can have small (not iPhone small though) lenses and cameras... On 1/4/2014 9:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of execution has nothing to with material used... On 1/4/2014 9:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Excellent! Let me know when your balsa wood jetliner is ready for its maiden voyage and I shall be there with my K-3 to document it. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of execution > has nothing to with material used... > > > On 1/4/2014 9:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. >>> >>> >>> Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that >>> most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will >>> stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. >> >> >> Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite >> significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >>> this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >>> seriously real deal. >> >> Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that >> most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will >> stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. > > Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite > significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. No reason a phone can't have nice glass, cost of materials keeps going down over time. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 1/4/2014 9:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>>My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >>>this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >>>seriously real deal. >> >>Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that >>most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will >>stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. > > Aahz, I have to very respectfully disagree. Have a look on > Voigtlander Nokton 40/1.4. Given its speed, it is positively very > small. And to boot it naturally covers the so called full frame. The > Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is also very small. > > So you can have small (not iPhone small though) lenses and cameras... The Nokton's far too big for someone to just carry around. You can't stick that in your pocket. The Pentax barely fits (once you add the required camera), and it's not full-frame. Again, only people who care about DOF, macro, or large prints want anything more than a phone camera these days. (Okay, low-light, too.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My Sony RX100II is truly pocket-able and has an integrated 28/1.8 equivalent lens, the Panasonic is very small but you still need to add a lens but in both cases neither are even close to replacing an SLR for so many types of photography that I do. I use the camera in my Android phone exensively too but again only within its limitations. You have to know what the gear can do in order to use it effectively, for most people a P&S is sufficient and for an increasing many the camera in their phone has proved to be more than adequate but that's not going to make top end DSLRs any less relevant. On 5 January 2014 06:32, Boris Liberman wrote: > Aahz, I have to very respectfully disagree. Have a look on Voigtlander > Nokton 40/1.4. Given its speed, it is positively very small. And to boot it > naturally covers the so called full frame. The Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is also > very small. > > So you can have small (not iPhone small though) lenses and cameras... > > > On 1/4/2014 9:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> >>> My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >>> this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >>> seriously real deal. >> >> >> Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that >> most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will >> stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Bill wrote: > > > Most people don't care enough about photography to spend the money on a 77mm > LTD anyway. And that why i have one Dave > > bill > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Point taken. However I don't believe that all modern Pentax lenses are devoid of optical plastic. Nor do I think that all the lenses that Pentax marks as having aspherics is made by crafty glass processing techniques, especially the inexpensive ones... On 1/4/2014 9:46 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Excellent! Let me know when your balsa wood jetliner is ready for its maiden voyage and I shall be there with my K-3 to document it. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of execution has nothing to with material used... On 1/4/2014 9:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/5/2014 12:07 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: The Nokton's far too big for someone to just carry around. You can't stick that in your pocket. The Pentax barely fits (once you add the required camera), and it's not full-frame. Again, only people who care about DOF, macro, or large prints want anything more than a phone camera these days. (Okay, low-light, too.) If you carry a small bag (which as I observe many people of both sexes do), you can easily put your camera in there, unless it is a big one, such as DSLR that would require bigger dedicated bag. That friend of mine who bought Pana GM1 with its relatively smallish kit zoom bought himself a small (now, really! small) camera bag and voila - he's carrying his camera with him everywhere. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's right. Especially that nowadays being connected (aka being able to upload your next selfie to facebook or whatever) matters more than being photographically endowed, so to speak. On 1/5/2014 12:57 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: My Sony RX100II is truly pocket-able and has an integrated 28/1.8 equivalent lens, the Panasonic is very small but you still need to add a lens but in both cases neither are even close to replacing an SLR for so many types of photography that I do. I use the camera in my Android phone exensively too but again only within its limitations. You have to know what the gear can do in order to use it effectively, for most people a P&S is sufficient and for an increasing many the camera in their phone has proved to be more than adequate but that's not going to make top end DSLRs any less relevant. On 5 January 2014 06:32, Boris Liberman wrote: Aahz, I have to very respectfully disagree. Have a look on Voigtlander Nokton 40/1.4. Given its speed, it is positively very small. And to boot it naturally covers the so called full frame. The Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is also very small. So you can have small (not iPhone small though) lenses and cameras... On 1/4/2014 9:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The RX100II is Wifi enabled and has a companion app for smart phones :) On 6 January 2014 16:16, Boris Liberman wrote: > That's right. Especially that nowadays being connected (aka being able to > upload your next selfie to facebook or whatever) matters more than being > photographically endowed, so to speak. > > > On 1/5/2014 12:57 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: >> >> My Sony RX100II is truly pocket-able and has an integrated 28/1.8 >> equivalent lens, the Panasonic is very small but you still need to add >> a lens but in both cases neither are even close to replacing an SLR >> for so many types of photography that I do. I use the camera in my >> Android phone exensively too but again only within its limitations. >> You have to know what the gear can do in order to use it effectively, >> for most people a P&S is sufficient and for an increasing many the >> camera in their phone has proved to be more than adequate but that's >> not going to make top end DSLRs any less relevant. >> >> On 5 January 2014 06:32, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> Aahz, I have to very respectfully disagree. Have a look on Voigtlander >>> Nokton 40/1.4. Given its speed, it is positively very small. And to boot >>> it >>> naturally covers the so called full frame. The Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is >>> also >>> very small. >>> >>> So you can have small (not iPhone small though) lenses and cameras... >>> >>> >>> On 1/4/2014 9:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: > > > > My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And > this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is > seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a good question, Boris. Not being a gearhead I don't closely study the fine details of lens construction, but I assumed that only glass was hard and stable enough to be ground or milled into shape with the required tolerances. Does anyone know if plastic, or anything besides glass and coatings is used in the optical path of any K mount lenses? On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Point taken. However I don't believe that all modern Pentax lenses are > devoid of optical plastic. Nor do I think that all the lenses that Pentax > marks as having aspherics is made by crafty glass processing techniques, > especially the inexpensive ones... > > > > > On 1/4/2014 9:46 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Excellent! Let me know when your balsa wood jetliner is ready for its >> maiden voyage and I shall be there with my K-3 to document it. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of >>> execution >>> has nothing to with material used... >>> >>> >>> On 1/4/2014 9:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> >> >> My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >> this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >> seriously real deal. > > > > Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that > most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will > stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > That's a good question, Boris. Not being a gearhead I don't closely > study the fine details of lens construction, but I assumed that only > glass was hard and stable enough to be ground or milled into shape > with the required tolerances. > > Does anyone know if plastic, or anything besides glass and coatings is > used in the optical path of any K mount lenses? My understanding is that plastic elements are normally molded, not ground. For aspherical elements, it's cheap to mold plastic, since you only have to machine the aspheric shape in the mold, rather than each element you produce. I think this is common for things like cell phone camera optics. I don't know for sure whether plastic elements are used in Pentax lenses or not. Someone on PentaxForums states (without proof) that the 18-55 has plastic elements, and that wouldn't surprise me, given that it's cheap and has "AL" (aspherical) in its name. Matt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My recollection is that virtually all modern wide-to-normal camera lenses contain aspherical elements, and that most of those are hybrid--a glass spherical lens with a plastic element cemented on to give it a complex aspheric shape. The most notorious of these in Pentax land is the FA 28-70/4, whose aspheric element has had a tendency to separate over time. Rick On Jan 6, 2014, at 10:38 , Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> That's a good question, Boris. Not being a gearhead I don't closely >> study the fine details of lens construction, but I assumed that only >> glass was hard and stable enough to be ground or milled into shape >> with the required tolerances. >> >> Does anyone know if plastic, or anything besides glass and coatings is >> used in the optical path of any K mount lenses? > > My understanding is that plastic elements are normally molded, not > ground. For aspherical elements, it's cheap to mold plastic, since you > only have to machine the aspheric shape in the mold, rather than each > element you produce. I think this is common for things like cell phone > camera optics. > > I don't know for sure whether plastic elements are used in Pentax > lenses or not. Someone on PentaxForums states (without proof) that the > 18-55 has plastic elements, and that wouldn't surprise me, given that > it's cheap and has "AL" (aspherical) in its name. > > Matt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't know about any k-mount lenses, but plastic is used for lenses in some critical applications were high precision and light weight are both desirable. On 1/6/2014 10:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: That's a good question, Boris. Not being a gearhead I don't closely study the fine details of lens construction, but I assumed that only glass was hard and stable enough to be ground or milled into shape with the required tolerances. Does anyone know if plastic, or anything besides glass and coatings is used in the optical path of any K mount lenses? On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Point taken. However I don't believe that all modern Pentax lenses are devoid of optical plastic. Nor do I think that all the lenses that Pentax marks as having aspherics is made by crafty glass processing techniques, especially the inexpensive ones... On 1/4/2014 9:46 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Excellent! Let me know when your balsa wood jetliner is ready for its maiden voyage and I shall be there with my K-3 to document it. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of execution has nothing to with material used... On 1/4/2014 9:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye Cameras
Hello Bruce Sir, some aspheric lens elements are made by depositing optical plastic on the glass. Unlike a spherical lens element which is perfectly smooth and roundish, asperical lenses will have a number of jagged edges forming the lens curvature. Also Dupleix lenses (two lenses glued together) no longer use Canada Balsam due to separation and white patches over time. But they use modern and durable man made glue which is basically plastic compounds. I have had this lens separation and white patches (not fungus) on the Pentax FA 28-70 f4 and a Tokina 20-35. Pentax DSLR lenses do not use optical plastic elements in the lenses, though some manufacturers do. The fresnel lens under the penta prism is made from plastic. Its purpose is to spread the light so that the corners in the viewfinder are not dark. Some lenses in front of the metering light sensors are also plastic. Regards. Bipin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye Cameras
Thanks for adding some facts to the debate Bipin, and welcome back! I've been wondering where you disappeared to. Hope all is well. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > Hello Bruce Sir, some aspheric lens elements are made by depositing > optical plastic on the glass. > Unlike a spherical lens element which is perfectly smooth and > roundish, asperical lenses will have a number > of jagged edges forming the lens curvature. > Also Dupleix lenses (two lenses glued together) no longer use Canada > Balsam due to separation and white > patches over time. But they use modern and durable man made glue which > is basically plastic compounds. > > I have had this lens separation and white patches (not fungus) on the > Pentax FA 28-70 f4 and a Tokina 20-35. > > Pentax DSLR lenses do not use optical plastic elements in the lenses, > though some manufacturers do. > > The fresnel lens under the penta prism is made from plastic. Its > purpose is to spread the light so that the corners > in the viewfinder are not dark. > > Some lenses in front of the metering light sensors are also plastic. > > Regards. > Bipin > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye Cameras
Thanks for heads up, Bipin, but I have a question. It seems rather strange to me that even the cheaper kit lenses that boast to have aspherical elements would not use plastic in the composition. I wouldn't presume that 18-55/3.5-5.6 AL was made all of pure glass... Anything I miss here? On 1/7/2014 11:12 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Hello Bruce Sir, some aspheric lens elements are made by depositing optical plastic on the glass. Unlike a spherical lens element which is perfectly smooth and roundish, asperical lenses will have a number of jagged edges forming the lens curvature. Also Dupleix lenses (two lenses glued together) no longer use Canada Balsam due to separation and white patches over time. But they use modern and durable man made glue which is basically plastic compounds. I have had this lens separation and white patches (not fungus) on the Pentax FA 28-70 f4 and a Tokina 20-35. Pentax DSLR lenses do not use optical plastic elements in the lenses, though some manufacturers do. The fresnel lens under the penta prism is made from plastic. Its purpose is to spread the light so that the corners in the viewfinder are not dark. Some lenses in front of the metering light sensors are also plastic. Regards. Bipin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye Cameras
Thanks for that, Bipin. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > Hello Bruce Sir, some aspheric lens elements are made by depositing > optical plastic on the glass. > Unlike a spherical lens element which is perfectly smooth and > roundish, asperical lenses will have a number > of jagged edges forming the lens curvature. > Also Dupleix lenses (two lenses glued together) no longer use Canada > Balsam due to separation and white > patches over time. But they use modern and durable man made glue which > is basically plastic compounds. > > I have had this lens separation and white patches (not fungus) on the > Pentax FA 28-70 f4 and a Tokina 20-35. > > Pentax DSLR lenses do not use optical plastic elements in the lenses, > though some manufacturers do. > > The fresnel lens under the penta prism is made from plastic. Its > purpose is to spread the light so that the corners > in the viewfinder are not dark. > > Some lenses in front of the metering light sensors are also plastic. > > Regards. > Bipin > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye Cameras
Boris, it's possibly no coincidence that the Pentax kit lenses are actually very good optically (esp. the 18-55) where the Canikon ones are apparently just disposable. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Thanks for heads up, Bipin, but I have a question. It seems rather strange > to me that even the cheaper kit lenses that boast to have aspherical > elements would not use plastic in the composition. I wouldn't presume that > 18-55/3.5-5.6 AL was made all of pure glass... > > Anything I miss here? > > > On 1/7/2014 11:12 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: >> >> Hello Bruce Sir, some aspheric lens elements are made by depositing >> optical plastic on the glass. >> Unlike a spherical lens element which is perfectly smooth and >> roundish, asperical lenses will have a number >> of jagged edges forming the lens curvature. >> Also Dupleix lenses (two lenses glued together) no longer use Canada >> Balsam due to separation and white >> patches over time. But they use modern and durable man made glue which >> is basically plastic compounds. >> >> I have had this lens separation and white patches (not fungus) on the >> Pentax FA 28-70 f4 and a Tokina 20-35. >> >> Pentax DSLR lenses do not use optical plastic elements in the lenses, >> though some manufacturers do. >> >> The fresnel lens under the penta prism is made from plastic. Its >> purpose is to spread the light so that the corners >> in the viewfinder are not dark. >> >> Some lenses in front of the metering light sensors are also plastic. >> >> Regards. >> Bipin >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye, Cameras
The infamous FA 28-70mm f4.0 had a composite aspheric element made up of a glass component with an optically matched molded plastic. It was the break down of this element that supposedly rendered a number of those lenses into, (very lightweight), paperweights. On 1/6/2014 10:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: That's a good question, Boris. Not being a gearhead I don't closely study the fine details of lens construction, but I assumed that only glass was hard and stable enough to be ground or milled into shape with the required tolerances. Does anyone know if plastic, or anything besides glass and coatings is used in the optical path of any K mount lenses? On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Point taken. However I don't believe that all modern Pentax lenses are devoid of optical plastic. Nor do I think that all the lenses that Pentax marks as having aspherics is made by crafty glass processing techniques, especially the inexpensive ones... On 1/4/2014 9:46 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Excellent! Let me know when your balsa wood jetliner is ready for its maiden voyage and I shall be there with my K-3 to document it. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of execution has nothing to with material used... On 1/4/2014 9:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will stick with phone cameras. No surprise, really. Not to mention: sharpness, contrast, colour, and all the other quite significant qualities that precision glass has over plastic lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye Pentax
I feel the same. Mine was all stolen yesterday. The car was broken into while out shopping. This is really making unemployment miserable. Collin (check your calendar) Brendemuehl *** Data Processing Consultation, Inc. Providing Broad-Spectrum Business Solutions and Assistance http://www.iol21.com/dpconsult [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
Har William Robb The real one, that lives in Saskatchewan!! - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: April 1, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: Goodbye Pentax > > Effective immediately I'm switching all of my equipment to Nikon brand. > I used to have an F2 that was a beautiful camera, and I realized lately > that there's no way my Pentaxes can meet that standard. I'm going to miss > giving up those Limited lenses, but Nikon's new Fun Lenses look too > enticing to resist. Imagine getting a fisheye for that little money. > Har! I'll probably still keep one of my broken Pentaxes around just to > remind me of what an awful camera it was. If you shoot Pentax these days, > then the best of luck to ye! Did I ever tell you about the time I got > those 40/2.8's for $10? Almost as good as my $40 Nikon F2 that I found > yesterday. Har again! > William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
That's too bad, Collin. Perhaps next time you'll learn to lock your car, or at least keep your gear out of sight. chris Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > I feel the same. Mine was all stolen yesterday. > The car was broken into while out shopping. > This is really making unemployment miserable. > > Collin (check your calendar) Brendemuehl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Chris Brogden wrote: > That's too bad, Collin. Perhaps next time you'll learn to lock your > car, or at least keep your gear out of sight. Hey, at least when I did it I used my real address so people knew it was a joke. chris "the real one" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
I'm beside myself with laughter! chris "I think I'm the real one" Chris Brogden wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Chris Brogden wrote: > > > That's too bad, Collin. Perhaps next time you'll learn to lock your > > car, or at least keep your gear out of sight. > > Hey, at least when I did it I used my real address so people knew it was a > joke. > > chris "the real one" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
Got ya! === Original --- That's too bad, Collin. Perhaps next time you'll learn to lock your car, or at least keep your gear out of sight. chris *** Data Processing Consultation, Inc. Providing Broad-Spectrum Business Solutions and Assistance http://www.iol21.com/dpconsult [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > Got ya! > > === Original --- > That's too bad, Collin. Perhaps next time you'll learn to lock your > car, or at least keep your gear out of sight. > > chris Not really -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
Chris Brogden wrote: > I agree. You should be ashamed of yourself, Bill. *snicker* -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Pentax
Yeah, anyone remember this? I suppose this was the real Pål too :) From: Pål_Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One of my inside contacts just gave me a lot of prototypes that I have never seen before! So now I have a 20/1.4, 35/1.4 and a working 24-70/2.8. Pentax experimented with this AL ED IF lens but shelved it in favour of the less-expensive 24-90, but it's a beauty Except the plastic window fell off and it's all dirty inside and I think it doesn't focus at infinity. Oh well. I gave my friend a couple of Vivitar Series 1 50/1.2's in trade, since I have no use for the 6 I picked up at a garage sale for 50 cents. Has anyone else heard about the new 16-32mm f2.6-3.3 Limited Zoom? Sure looks like a beauty. Pål > > Hey, at least when I did it I used my real address > so people knew it was a > > joke. > > > > chris "the real one" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye LX
In a message dated 27/4/01 2:56:25 pm, you wrote: <> Today I held one, but not for long. This had no shroud for the shutter release, but the meter was activated by the pentaprism removal button. It was sent back to its' kennel. Natch, the LX is still available, but only from certain dealers in Japan who have seen fit to purchase some. I wonder if "discontinued" means no service parts? Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Michigan
Mark, it was good to meet and talk with you @ the bird sanctuary. Hope you like L.A. May the light be with you. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Mark D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: OT: Goodbye Michigan > Hey Folks, > > Well, my contract is up and it's time to move. Goodbye Michigan! Hello L.A.! > > I'm gonna be offline for a few days. But before I go, I just want to > publicly thank Mark Cassino for a ton of stuff - helping me with apt. > hunting, showing me some of the sights around MI, and many great > conversations about photography. I also want to thank Bill Sawyer and Ken > Waller for getting together at the Kellogg bird sanctuary and sharing > experiences, photographs, and gear. Oh yeah, Bill also got us a few neat > Pentax trinkets! Thanks Bill! > > Well, time to go and pack up my computer. Buh bye folks! > > Mark > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
First snow (goodbye fall)
http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008&s=0&category=landscape&blog=20081122150043 ^^^ Goodbye autumn colors. First snow has come with cold and stormy nights. Fall had to retreat, leaving all her merchandise, apples and bitter-sweet rowan berries. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Weekend Dad's Goodbye
Fortunatey I am not a weekend dad but I was having a gloomy day a while ago and tried to capture one as I see it around me much too often. Plasticky playground with a dash of bitterness. Please let me know if this works for you. b/w version added for comparison. I am not quite happy with both but happier with the color version. Your input is appreciated. http://tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML http://preview.tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML Comments, abuse and polite lies invited Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Goodbye Oxford Tavern
The Oxford Tavern was an institution. Cheap beer and food, strippers, and a loyal following. Last year, it was sold, and there was a story behind it. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/poles-apart-topless-bar-set-to-lose-sleaze-factor-20130720-2qb0d.html My friend was trying to photograph the story of the pub long before the pub was even for sale. She only got permission in the last 48 hours before it closed. http://au.blurb.com/b/5115919-goodbye-oxford-tavern I went to the opening tonight. Terrific show. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/14/02/goodbyeoxford/index.html The edit is a bit sloppy on my part, but I'm not apologising. I had fun -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye Kodachrome 25?
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Creature's Comfort wrote: > As a result, Kodak has seen a significant decline in use of Kodachrome > 25 film. Kodak said it can no longer justify production of products > with extremely limited usage. Kodak will continue to offer Kodachrome > 64 and 200 consumer film. That's doesn't sound right. If you go to Kodak's website and look at their product announcements, they say that they're discontinuing the 200 in the middle of this year, and they don't mention anything about discontinuing the 25. Have a look at: http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl?category=Professional+Color+Reversal+Films and click on the "KODACHROME 200 Professional Film (PKL)" line. Here's the same link but split onto two lines to make cutting and pasting (hopefully) easier: http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl? category=Professional+Color+Reversal+Films I'm not saying that your information is wrong, just that it conflicts with Kodak's. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Goodbye Kodachrome 25?
When and if they finally discontinue the last kodachrome films do not make the mistake of "stocking up" on it. Processing will promptly shut down I'm sure as it's so complex. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Kodachrome 25?
At 20:31 24.4.2001 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Creature's Comfort wrote: > >> As a result, Kodak has seen a significant decline in use of Kodachrome >> 25 film. Kodak said it can no longer justify production of products >> with extremely limited usage. Kodak will continue to offer Kodachrome >> 64 and 200 consumer film. > >That's doesn't sound right. If you go to Kodak's website and look at >their product announcements, they say that they're discontinuing the 200 >in the middle of this year, and they don't mention anything about >discontinuing the 25. Have a look at: > >http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl?category=Professional+Color+Reversal+Films > >and click on the "KODACHROME 200 Professional Film (PKL)" line. Here's >the same link but split onto two lines to make cutting and pasting >(hopefully) easier: They are discontinuing the Kodachrome 25 *consumer* film and Kodachrome 200 *professional* film. I'm sure they are not going to shut down the production of all Kodachrome films in a fast pace... Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 400 789753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 2 413 * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Goodbye Kodachrome 25?
They are discontinuing all professional Kodachromes, too. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: Pentax List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 25. huhtikuuta 2001 3:49 Aihe: Re: Goodbye Kodachrome 25? >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Creature's Comfort wrote: > >> As a result, Kodak has seen a significant decline in use of Kodachrome >> 25 film. Kodak said it can no longer justify production of products >> with extremely limited usage. Kodak will continue to offer Kodachrome >> 64 and 200 consumer film. > >That's doesn't sound right. If you go to Kodak's website and look at >their product announcements, they say that they're discontinuing the 200 >in the middle of this year, and they don't mention anything about >discontinuing the 25. Have a look at: > >http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl?category=Professional+Color+Reversal+Films > >and click on the "KODACHROME 200 Professional Film (PKL)" line. Here's >the same link but split onto two lines to make cutting and pasting >(hopefully) easier: > >http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl? >category=Professional+Color+Reversal+Films > >I'm not saying that your information is wrong, just that it conflicts with >Kodak's. > >chris > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Kodachrome 25?
Antti-Pekka, While I applaud your vivid subject line, my choice would be "Mama Don't Take My Kodachrome Away." --Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Kodachrome 25?
Antti-Pekka Virjonen clarified: > They are discontinuing the Kodachrome 25 *consumer* film and > Kodachrome 200 *professional* film. Okay, this officially sucks. It was what, about a year ago that I finally got around to trying Kodachrome and discovered what the fuss was about? I like Kodachrome 25. I tried Kodachrome 200 and was seriously disappointed. (The Fuji E6 400 ASA emulsions I've tried all looked a _lot_ better (to me) than Kodachrome 200.) I have not yet tried Kodachrome 64 (I have some in the 'fridge). I'd just recently resolved to start shooting more slide film, and hand planned on a bunch of that being Kodachrome 25. *sigh* I've got terrible timing. At first, my quest was for faster and faster film, because I shoot so often in low light. (I still do that, and I still use fast film.) Now, a few years later, when I've started learning the joys of the more interesting slow emulsions when I'm actually shooting in daylight, they're being pulled out from under me. Ultra 50. APX 25. Now Kodachrome 25. Argh! If I decide I like Kodachrome 64, is that going to vanish next year? -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye Kodachrome 25?
Don't do it Glenn, we don't want to find out... Norm "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." wrote: > If I decide I like Kodachrome 64, is that going to vanish next year? > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Goodbye (leaving the list)
It's been a thrilling few months, but I'm afraid that my participation in three camera-related lists has taken me away from freelance essay writing (spell-checked, unlike my postings) and my wife and girls. WIth my lens collection complete, I am quitting all the list (and two others: rangefinders and streetshooting) so that I can reclaim a life, and my family can reclaim me. These months have given me the chance to return in kind the help that I received when building my SLR kit, with its collection of some 17 lenses. Until recently, I shot only candid and slice-of-life people shots. Thanks to this list, I've been able to expand my vistas to include friends' weddings, indoor and outdoor sports, indoor theater, and even a bit of nature and macro photography. On another front, I recently had the chance to begin mentoring a budding photographer. I was at an exhibition of middle-school art, when the art teacher's 16-year-old daughter inquired about the Pentax SLR hanging from my neck. "Last year my father gave me his old MX," she told me, "and ever since, I've been studying photography." "You're kidding!" I exclaimed. "I've been looking for someone like you. I've amasses a large set of world-class fast lenses, and I'll never use most of them as often as they deserve to be used. I'd love to lend them to you, 3 or 4 at a time. You could see how the focal length suits you. And with lenses of this quality, you'll see how good your photos can be. Are you interested?" "Really? Of course!" A week later, she and her mother came by, and the girl spent a good hour trying out different lenses, finally leaving with my Carl Zeiss Jena 20/2.8, Pentax SMC 24/2.8, Pentax SMC 35/2M, and Pentax SMC 105/2.8K. I also lent her a few collections of photographs taken by photojournalists, her favorite genre and mine. Also, I gave her an entry form for the photography contest being held by our county library system. She'll be trading the original lenses and books for new choices this weekend. I have spent probably hundreds of hours collecting opinions, ratings, prices, and facts and figures about Pentax and Pentax-compatible 35mm lenses. It would be a pity if my 11x17-inch chart--now 78 pages long--would no longer be of use to anyone. If anyone is interested in having a copy in PDF, I'll be glad to email it to you (not spell-checked or cleaned up in about 18 months!). Warm regards, Paul Franklin Stregevsky, Technical Writer NEC America, Inc. Mail Stop VA-4610 14040 Park Center Rd. Herndon, VA 20171-3227 [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 H: (301) 349-5243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Goodbye for a bit
Hey PDMLers,
On Monday I'll unsubscribe for a couple of weeks, so please don't discuss
anything useful or important.
My trip: As a Canadian who's lived in the States for a long time, I got to
missing my roots, and decided that it was time to visit the part of Canada
that has always attracted me, at least in books.
So the itinerary is something like this:
Denver->Ottawa
Ottawa->Iqaluit (on Baffin Island; biggest town, capital of Nunavut)
Iqaluit->Cape Dorset (also on Baffin, home of many famous artists)
Cape Dorset->Iqaluit->Resolute (the gateway to the high arctic, that is,
north of 75 degrees)
Resolute->Beechey Island (to see graves of some members of the Franklin
expedition of ~1845, all 128 of whom were lost)
Resolute->Eureka (weather station at ~80 degrees north, on Ellesmere Island)
Eureka-> Tanquaray Fjord (82 N, about as high as you can land in summer in a
Twin Otter)
Tanquary Fjord->Grise Fjord (most northern settlement in North America, only
about 8 Inuit families)
Back to Iqaluit via Clyde River and Qikiqtarjuaq; then Ottawa and Denver.
Equipment: an IQZoom (Espio) 105 WR for wet work and a ZX-5n with a sigma
zoom, 40 rolls of Supra 400, various small stuff (batteries!), TRIPOD (in
spite of the shlepping), mosquito nets, 100% DEET ("do not use for more than
2 weeks or you will die"), polypropylene everything, oh, and a tuque, eh.
The sun won't go down at all once we're north of 66.
I'll be looking for poutine at the Iqualuit Burger King...NOT.
A bientot, tout la gang.
John
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Re: First snow (goodbye fall)
In a message dated 11/22/2008 5:11:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008&s=0&category=landscape&blog=20081122150043 ^^^ Goodbye autumn colors. First snow has come with cold and stormy nights. Fall had to retreat, leaving all her merchandise, apples and bitter-sweet rowan berries. Very nice. Like the colors. Like the second the best, it has a certain poignancy to it. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Crossing the river (goodbye *istDL)
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070807225946 I'd accidentially damaged f-screen of my *istDL and going to purchase K100D Super, then repair and sell old DL body. These are the last photos with *istDL for over a year of owning one. I like this little SLR with noisy mirror bouncing inside but I'm sure I won't miss it much... Bye *istDL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Weekend Dad's Goodbye
Ecke, You using Velvia again? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 5:21 AM, eckinator wrote: > Fortunatey I am not a weekend dad but I was having a gloomy day a > while ago and tried to capture one as I see it around me much too > often. Plasticky playground with a dash of bitterness. Please let me > know if this works for you. b/w version added for comparison. I am not > quite happy with both but happier with the color version. Your input > is appreciated. > > http://tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML > http://preview.tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML > > Comments, abuse and polite lies invited > Cheers > Ecke > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Weekend Dad's Goodbye
I set the mode dial to V; I thought it meant "Virtuoso" - does it not??? 2010/6/19 Bob Sullivan : > Ecke, > You using Velvia again? > Regards, Bob S. > > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 5:21 AM, eckinator wrote: >> Fortunatey I am not a weekend dad but I was having a gloomy day a >> while ago and tried to capture one as I see it around me much too >> often. Plasticky playground with a dash of bitterness. Please let me >> know if this works for you. b/w version added for comparison. I am not >> quite happy with both but happier with the color version. Your input >> is appreciated. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML >> http://preview.tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML >> >> Comments, abuse and polite lies invited >> Cheers >> Ecke >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT printf("goodbye world\n");
Wednesday evening, on another mailing list I was pointed to a saddening post on Tim Bray's blog. Last week, Dennis Ritchie passed away. This news will almost certainly cause one of two reactions: "Who?" or Dismay that we have lost someone who has arguably contributed more to the world of computing than Jobs, Torvalds and Stallman combined. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Goodbye Oxford Tavern
Oops. I should say, there might be some NSFW content on the walls. On 26/02/2014 10:10 PM, Derby Chang wrote: The Oxford Tavern was an institution. Cheap beer and food, strippers, and a loyal following. Last year, it was sold, and there was a story behind it. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/poles-apart-topless-bar-set-to-lose-sleaze-factor-20130720-2qb0d.html My friend was trying to photograph the story of the pub long before the pub was even for sale. She only got permission in the last 48 hours before it closed. http://au.blurb.com/b/5115919-goodbye-oxford-tavern I went to the opening tonight. Terrific show. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/14/02/goodbyeoxford/index.html The edit is a bit sloppy on my part, but I'm not apologising. I had fun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Goodbye Oxford Tavern
That's great, Derby. And it looks like one or more of the former Oxford staff attended too. Question: was the book supporting the exhibition or the other way around? Your friend did a tremendous job; the photos look wonderful. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Derby Chang wrote: > The Oxford Tavern was an institution. Cheap beer and food, strippers, and a > loyal following. Last year, it was sold, and there was a story behind it. > > http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/poles-apart-topless-bar-set-to-lose-sleaze-factor-20130720-2qb0d.html > > My friend was trying to photograph the story of the pub long before the pub > was even for sale. She only got permission in the last 48 hours before it > closed. > > http://au.blurb.com/b/5115919-goodbye-oxford-tavern > > I went to the opening tonight. Terrific show. > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/14/02/goodbyeoxford/index.html > > The edit is a bit sloppy on my part, but I'm not apologising. I had fun > > -- > > der...@iinet.net.au > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Goodbye Oxford Tavern
Quoting Derby Chang : The Oxford Tavern was an institution. Cheap beer and food, strippers, and a loyal following. Last year, it was sold, and there was a story behind it. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/poles-apart-topless-bar-set-to-lose-sleaze-factor-20130720-2qb0d.html My friend was trying to photograph the story of the pub long before the pub was even for sale. She only got permission in the last 48 hours before it closed. http://au.blurb.com/b/5115919-goodbye-oxford-tavern I went to the opening tonight. Terrific show. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/14/02/goodbyeoxford/index.html The edit is a bit sloppy on my part, but I'm not apologising. I had fun That's pretty obvious - you captured the mood of the event perfectly. Great images! -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Goodbye Oxford Tavern
Nice shot of Stephen :) On 26 February 2014 22:10, Derby Chang wrote: > The Oxford Tavern was an institution. Cheap beer and food, strippers, and a > loyal following. Last year, it was sold, and there was a story behind it. > > http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/poles-apart-topless-bar-set-to-lose-sleaze-factor-20130720-2qb0d.html > > My friend was trying to photograph the story of the pub long before the pub > was even for sale. She only got permission in the last 48 hours before it > closed. > > http://au.blurb.com/b/5115919-goodbye-oxford-tavern > > I went to the opening tonight. Terrific show. > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/14/02/goodbyeoxford/index.html > > The edit is a bit sloppy on my part, but I'm not apologising. I had fun > > -- > > der...@iinet.net.au > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Goodbye Oxford Tavern
Interesting. Nice gallery, Derby. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 2/26/2014 3:11:10 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, der...@iinet.net.au writes: The Oxford Tavern was an institution. Cheap beer and food, strippers, and a loyal following. Last year, it was sold, and there was a story behind it. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/poles-apart-topless-bar-set-to-lose-sleaze-factor- 20130720-2qb0d.html My friend was trying to photograph the story of the pub long before the pub was even for sale. She only got permission in the last 48 hours before it closed. http://au.blurb.com/b/5115919-goodbye-oxford-tavern I went to the opening tonight. Terrific show. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/14/02/goodbyeoxford/index.html The edit is a bit sloppy on my part, but I'm not apologising. I had fun -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goodbye (leaving the list)
Hi Paul, Glad you dropped in for a visit and look-around! Have fun w/ that SMCTak 85mm f1.8 !8^) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye (leaving the list)
Paul, I know the feeling about reclaiming your life. I can't imagine subscribing to 3 lists like this one! You are generous to lend your lenses and books. It is a joy to share what you have learned. Perhaps you could drop by from time to time and tell us how you are doing...maybe even point us at a few pentax bargains! Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye (leaving the list)
Paul, The List, without the Ubershopper!?! Thanks for all the highly informative posts. Family comes first for me, too. Have fun with them, take lots of photos, and drop back by once in awhile. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye (leaving the list)
Paul, I will certainly miss your input, especially as I have not long been with the PDML, and am just getting to know a few of the regulars. I am trying not to spend too much time on the computer, but I often got 150 - 250 emails(mostly OT) from PDML and VanLUG. I've stopped my subscription to VanLUG (Vancouver Linux User Group, just to cut down on email traffic and get more time with my wife and family(6 of 8 of our kids), but tonight, I still had 149. Can't something be done about OT Subjects? ...It would be a pity if my 11x17-inch chart--now 78 pages long would no longer be of use to anyone. If anyone is interested in having a copy in PDF, I'll be glad to email it to you (not spell-checked or cleaned up in about 18 months!). Yes, I would like a copy of your PDF Chart. Regards, and best of luck with the writing. James M. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye (leaving the list)
Paul, SOrry to hear that you are leaving the list. GOod luck on your freelance essay writing and do spent that extra valuable time with the family. You can also sent a that PDF file too. Hope that you will drop by occasionally. Evan Dong On Fri, 25 May 2001 11:55:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It's been a thrilling few months, but I'm afraid that my > participation in > three camera-related lists has taken me away from freelance essay > writing > (spell-checked, unlike my postings) and my wife and girls. WIth my > lens > collection complete, I am quitting all the list (and two others: > rangefinders and streetshooting) so that I can reclaim a life, and > my > family can reclaim me. > > These months have given me the chance to return in kind the help > that I > received when building my SLR kit, with its collection of some 17 > lenses. > Until recently, I shot only candid and slice-of-life people shots. > Thanks > to this list, I've been able to expand my vistas to include friends' > weddings, indoor and outdoor sports, indoor theater, and even a bit > of > nature and macro photography. > > On another front, I recently had the chance to begin mentoring a > budding > photographer. I was at an exhibition of middle-school art, when the > art > teacher's 16-year-old daughter inquired about the Pentax SLR hanging > from > my neck. "Last year my father gave me his old MX," she told me, "and > ever > since, I've been studying photography." > > "You're kidding!" I exclaimed. "I've been looking for someone like > you. > I've amasses a large set of world-class fast lenses, and I'll never > use > most of them as often as they deserve to be used. I'd love to lend > them to > you, 3 or 4 at a time. You could see how the focal length suits you. > And > with lenses of this quality, you'll see how good your photos can be. > Are > you interested?" > > "Really? Of course!" > > A week later, she and her mother came by, and the girl spent a good > hour > trying out different lenses, finally leaving with my Carl Zeiss Jena > 20/2.8, Pentax SMC 24/2.8, Pentax SMC 35/2M, and Pentax SMC > 105/2.8K. > > I also lent her a few collections of photographs taken by > photojournalists, > her favorite genre and mine. Also, I gave her an entry form for the > photography contest being held by our county library system. > > She'll be trading the original lenses and books for new choices this > weekend. > > I have spent probably hundreds of hours collecting opinions, > ratings, > prices, and facts and figures about Pentax and Pentax-compatible > 35mm > lenses. It would be a pity if my 11x17-inch chart--now 78 pages > long--would > no longer be of use to anyone. If anyone is interested in having a > copy in > PDF, I'll be glad to email it to you (not spell-checked or cleaned > up in > about 18 months!). > > Warm regards, > > Paul Franklin Stregevsky, Technical Writer > NEC America, Inc. > Mail Stop VA-4610 > 14040 Park Center Rd. > Herndon, VA 20171-3227 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > W: (703) 834-4648 > > H: (301) 349-5243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Goodbye for a bit
Keep the DEET off the plastics or you will not have any
Sounds like a great trip.Enjoy
Dave
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Hey PDMLers,
Equipment: an IQZoom (Espio) 105 WR for wet work and a ZX-5n with a
sigma
zoom, 40 rolls of Supra 400, various small stuff (batteries!), TRIPOD
(in
spite of the shlepping), mosquito nets, 100% DEET ("do not use for
more than
2 weeks or you will die"),
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Re: Goodbye for a bit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'll be looking for poutine at the Iqualuit Burger King...NOT. > A bientot, tout la gang. Have a killer trip! Do they have a Burger King in Iqualuit? Bring back a pic of it! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
