Re: My K-7 is dyingThe sensor is an improvement over the K7, though I seldom went above ISO 400 an
I think the K-5 is excellent and would be a worthy upgrade. It is basically like the K3 but with a better sensor and somewhat higher resolution. If you shoot at lower ISO settings - like 400 or less - the sensor difference is not enormous. At high ISO's much improvement. The K5 does not have focus peaking and the live view implementation is somewhat clunky IMO (zooming in on the AF point) but it's a really fine camera. A K5-IIs would probably be even finer. On 1/26/2016 9:59 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Hi, troops. As you can see, my beloved K-7 is about to bit the dust. It's become a little reluctant to change shutter speeds, and I'm not sure what shutter speed it's ever on any more. I have used and abused it for years, and now it's tired and wants to go home. I can maybe afford,if a client comes through, a used K5, and here's my question: is it worth getting. I know there have been upgrades to it, but it seems to have gotten decent reviews whe it came out. My other option is to spend a bit more and upgrade my Fuji X100 to the X100S, but that would put me out of the Pentax game. I'd like to stick around, maybe, if the K5 is worth it. What say you? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 AC power supply in a K3?
Hi Barry, On Fri, 29 May 2015 18:07:58 -0700 Barry Rice wrote: Tomorrow I'm going to be doing a long term video shoot. I have an AC adapter (D-AC50) for my K7. This supplies 8.3V, 2A. Meanwhile, my K3 requires the same voltage, amperage. The plug is compatible with both. Is it safe to use this on my K3? Yes, I think so. The K3 power supply does have a different model number, but again, supplies 8.3V, 2A Exactly, and these models also share the same battery. No problem there ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com Flickr : jvw_pentax -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K7 AC power supply in a K3?
Hey Guys, Tomorrow I'm going to be doing a long term video shoot. I have an AC adapter (D-AC50) for my K7. This supplies 8.3V, 2A. Meanwhile, my K3 requires the same voltage, amperage. The plug is compatible with both. Is it safe to use this on my K3? The K3 power supply does have a different model number, but again, supplies 8.3V, 2A Cheers Barry Barry Rice, Ph.D. Sarracenia.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Memory cards for K7
Hi guys, I've been asked to do some videography--certainly something not in my comfort zone, since I normally only photograph plants! Anyway, the highest volume card I currently use on my K7 is a 16gb 30MB/s Extreme SanDisk. I'd like to get something more like 32gb cards for this event. Can the K7 handle 32gb cards? And what about these extremely fast cards (80MB/s, etc). Any problem with those? I'm currently using Firmware v1.11 Cheers Barry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory cards for K7
If you have firmware version 1.11 for the K-7 you should be able to use SDXC with up to 2TB capacity, mind you I've never seen a 2TB SD card. On 11/10/2014 1:10 PM, Barry Rice wrote: Hi guys, I've been asked to do some videography--certainly something not in my comfort zone, since I normally only photograph plants! Anyway, the highest volume card I currently use on my K7 is a 16gb 30MB/s Extreme SanDisk. I'd like to get something more like 32gb cards for this event. Can the K7 handle 32gb cards? And what about these extremely fast cards (80MB/s, etc). Any problem with those? I'm currently using Firmware v1.11 Cheers Barry -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory cards for K7
IIRC, you can use the newer cards, as P.J. said, but you may not be able to take advantage of the faster speed of the newer cards. So fast cards may be a waste of money. The couple of times I have asked Ricoh USA questions about such technical details they have been quite responsive... stan On Nov 10, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Barry Rice bamr...@ucdavis.edu wrote: Hi guys, I've been asked to do some videography--certainly something not in my comfort zone, since I normally only photograph plants! Anyway, the highest volume card I currently use on my K7 is a 16gb 30MB/s Extreme SanDisk. I'd like to get something more like 32gb cards for this event. Can the K7 handle 32gb cards? And what about these extremely fast cards (80MB/s, etc). Any problem with those? I'm currently using Firmware v1.11 Cheers Barry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory cards for K7
Latest K-7 firmware here... http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/k-7_s.html -p On 11/10/2014 12:10 PM, Barry Rice wrote: Hi guys, I've been asked to do some videography--certainly something not in my comfort zone, since I normally only photograph plants! Anyway, the highest volume card I currently use on my K7 is a 16gb 30MB/s Extreme SanDisk. I'd like to get something more like 32gb cards for this event. Can the K7 handle 32gb cards? And what about these extremely fast cards (80MB/s, etc). Any problem with those? I'm currently using Firmware v1.11 Cheers Barry -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: First shots with the K7
These are my pick of the first batch of shots with the K7. All with the FA 100-300. The Buffalo portraits are at about 20m. The Mopane scrub is about to lose its leaves. This is the Lowveld's equivalent of Autumn. The Saddlebill Stork is at about 300m. I didn't see the croc until I started cropping. Sept/Oct is bush fire time in Kruger. Some controlled burning is carried out to create firebreaks. The large aloes on this rocky outcrop about 800m away have survived. Part of a herd of elephants grazing in a wetland near a small stream. The Mopane trees immediately behind them are still green in contrast to those further away. http://www.flickr.com/photos/87994495@N06/sets/72157635944498434 Alan C -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: First shots with the K7
I hope the Saddlebill saw the croc in good time. Like these, Alan. I'd imagine that body and lens will produce great full size files. Jack - Original Message - From: Alan C c...@lantic.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:13 AM Subject: GESO: First shots with the K7 These are my pick of the first batch of shots with the K7. All with the FA 100-300. The Buffalo portraits are at about 20m. The Mopane scrub is about to lose its leaves. This is the Lowveld's equivalent of Autumn. The Saddlebill Stork is at about 300m. I didn't see the croc until I started cropping. Sept/Oct is bush fire time in Kruger. Some controlled burning is carried out to create firebreaks. The large aloes on this rocky outcrop about 800m away have survived. Part of a herd of elephants grazing in a wetland near a small stream. The Mopane trees immediately behind them are still green in contrast to those further away. http://www.flickr.com/photos/87994495@N06/sets/72157635944498434 Alan C -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The K7 has landed.
Hey - that camera looks familiar... Glad that it has finally arrived. You are a patient man - I mailed it to your daughter in March! I'll be interested in hearing your impressions of the camera. Mark On 9/24/2013 11:10 AM, Alan C wrote: At last, after several months of waiting, my daughter eventually arrived from the IOM with the K7 I bought from Mark Cassino. We did it that way to circumvent postal theft and import duty. And what a magnificent beast it is compared to the K110D. Here it is having its first sniff at Kruger in the blazing sun. We will be spending a few days in the Park so it can get a taste of Africa. Sadly, no bears, wolves or wolverines which are represented here by hyaenas, wild dogs honey badgers. Before disposing of the K110D I will put all your theories on pixels resolution to the test. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9917024454/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The K7 has landed.
At last, after several months of waiting, my daughter eventually arrived from the IOM with the K7 I bought from Mark Cassino. We did it that way to circumvent postal theft and import duty. And what a magnificent beast it is compared to the K110D. Here it is having its first sniff at Kruger in the blazing sun. We will be spending a few days in the Park so it can get a taste of Africa. Sadly, no bears, wolves or wolverines which are represented here by hyaenas, wild dogs honey badgers. Before disposing of the K110D I will put all your theories on pixels resolution to the test. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9917024454/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Yeah sharp, but not as much as they should be I'm sure. If you are interested send me a message and I'll give you a link to the recording on Soundcloud. On 26 August 2013 23:19, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, are you getting unsharp pictures during long exposure with even a RF trigger and tripod?? On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 August 2013 13:37, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, does your camera take pictures and appear to work normally? If so, you might be over thinking this. FWIW, my K7 and K5 have rather a lot of mechanical noises going on inside them during long exposures. Mostly but not always, so I'm looking for the potential cause. I purchased an RF trigger system so that I ensure that cables don't blow or get tugged, I have added a hook and weight to my tripod and I take care setting up the focus, now I'm looking at the camera. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, I don't have any instruments to measure these things with. I can only re-iterate my report that for all practical purposes both K-5's that we have are silent as far as sensor cleaning cycle goes. I remember my K10d was making rather loud thumping noise in this situation but as I understand K-7 and onwards got new sensor cleaning routine. There are two possible interpretations of sensor cleaning. I think you're talking about dust removal at startup. My K-7 does not make any noise for that. But when I'm cleaning the sensor myself (with a blower), the shutter is held open, and it makes the same noise that it does during a long exposure. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Correct, I referred to dust removal operation which I triggered from the menu. I haven't had a need to do open shutter manual sensor cleaning. On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, I don't have any instruments to measure these things with. I can only re-iterate my report that for all practical purposes both K-5's that we have are silent as far as sensor cleaning cycle goes. I remember my K10d was making rather loud thumping noise in this situation but as I understand K-7 and onwards got new sensor cleaning routine. There are two possible interpretations of sensor cleaning. I think you're talking about dust removal at startup. My K-7 does not make any noise for that. But when I'm cleaning the sensor myself (with a blower), the shutter is held open, and it makes the same noise that it does during a long exposure. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Rob, are you getting unsharp pictures during long exposure with even a RF trigger and tripod?? On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 August 2013 13:37, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, does your camera take pictures and appear to work normally? If so, you might be over thinking this. FWIW, my K7 and K5 have rather a lot of mechanical noises going on inside them during long exposures. Mostly but not always, so I'm looking for the potential cause. I purchased an RF trigger system so that I ensure that cables don't blow or get tugged, I have added a hook and weight to my tripod and I take care setting up the focus, now I'm looking at the camera. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
On 25 August 2013 14:45, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm. The K-5 that I bought brand new and that has no grip attached to it makes barely perceptible vibration but no sound. The K-5 that I bought used and has the grip make no discernible voice or vibration all together. I just performed forced sensor clean cycle and these are my observations... I don't know if I can actually feel it but definitely one of mine is far more noisy than the other, I recorded the noise front and rear of each body then subtracted the ambient noise profile and found that one body is an average of 15dB noiser than the other. It can't be a good thing. Yay. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/k5_SR_noise.png -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
On 25/08/2013 9:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 25 August 2013 14:45, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm. The K-5 that I bought brand new and that has no grip attached to it makes barely perceptible vibration but no sound. The K-5 that I bought used and has the grip make no discernible voice or vibration all together. I just performed forced sensor clean cycle and these are my observations... I don't know if I can actually feel it but definitely one of mine is far more noisy than the other, I recorded the noise front and rear of each body then subtracted the ambient noise profile and found that one body is an average of 15dB noiser than the other. It can't be a good thing. Yay. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/k5_SR_noise.png Rob, does your camera take pictures and appear to work normally? If so, you might be over thinking this. FWIW, my K7 and K5 have rather a lot of mechanical noises going on inside them during long exposures. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Rob, I don't have any instruments to measure these things with. I can only re-iterate my report that for all practical purposes both K-5's that we have are silent as far as sensor cleaning cycle goes. I remember my K10d was making rather loud thumping noise in this situation but as I understand K-7 and onwards got new sensor cleaning routine. I should agree with Bill here, if it ain't broken - don't fix it. On 8/26/2013 6:05 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 25 August 2013 14:45, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm. The K-5 that I bought brand new and that has no grip attached to it makes barely perceptible vibration but no sound. The K-5 that I bought used and has the grip make no discernible voice or vibration all together. I just performed forced sensor clean cycle and these are my observations... I don't know if I can actually feel it but definitely one of mine is far more noisy than the other, I recorded the noise front and rear of each body then subtracted the ambient noise profile and found that one body is an average of 15dB noiser than the other. It can't be a good thing. Yay. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/k5_SR_noise.png -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
On 26 August 2013 13:37, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, does your camera take pictures and appear to work normally? If so, you might be over thinking this. FWIW, my K7 and K5 have rather a lot of mechanical noises going on inside them during long exposures. Mostly but not always, so I'm looking for the potential cause. I purchased an RF trigger system so that I ensure that cables don't blow or get tugged, I have added a hook and weight to my tripod and I take care setting up the focus, now I'm looking at the camera. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Don't worry about the noise. Its the nature of the design. I can assure you that it doesn't cause vibration on the sensor in long exposures from experience. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks guys, I suspected as much, it's a very poor system design to be so noisy (electrically). There is a significant differential in the noise levels between my K5 bodies so it does bother me, you can't have noise without vibration. On 24 August 2013 00:50, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/23/2013 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the shutter is open. (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have it with me to test right now.) Due to the nature of the SR system even if SR is disabled the sensor shift system is actively holding the sensor in place. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Hmmm. The K-5 that I bought brand new and that has no grip attached to it makes barely perceptible vibration but no sound. The K-5 that I bought used and has the grip make no discernible voice or vibration all together. I just performed forced sensor clean cycle and these are my observations... On 8/23/2013 3:23 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? Cheers, -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Question for K5/K7 owners
Hi Team, I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the shutter is open. (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have it with me to test right now.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Its the SR. Don't worry the slightest about it! Even with SR off it still has to lock the sensor in place. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the shutter is open. (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have it with me to test right now.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
My k-5 has noticeably louder SR than the k-7. Who knows why. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Its the SR. Don't worry the slightest about it! Even with SR off it still has to lock the sensor in place. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the shutter is open. (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have it with me to test right now.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:35 , Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: My k-5 has noticeably louder SR than the k-7. Who knows why. I used to think the K5 sounded kinda loud (although dramatically quieter than the K10D and a bit quieter than the K7) until I gave it to someone and had them trip the shutter when my head wasn't jammed up against the body. Nearly silent. Cool. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
My K20D makes an obvious humming/buzzing sound when making long exposures. I believe the sensor shift system isn't exactly silent. It isn't very loud however your ear has to be right next to the camera to hear it. I don't think that has changed from the K10 through k-5. On 8/23/2013 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? Cheers, -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
On 8/23/2013 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the shutter is open. (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have it with me to test right now.) Due to the nature of the SR system even if SR is disabled the sensor shift system is actively holding the sensor in place. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for K5/K7 owners
Thanks guys, I suspected as much, it's a very poor system design to be so noisy (electrically). There is a significant differential in the noise levels between my K5 bodies so it does bother me, you can't have noise without vibration. On 24 August 2013 00:50, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/23/2013 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long exposures or during the sensor clean cycle? My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the shutter is open. (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have it with me to test right now.) Due to the nature of the SR system even if SR is disabled the sensor shift system is actively holding the sensor in place. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
On Jan 28, 2013, at 13:11 , Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty torn up. On pf, good looking k-7s are going for 400. I personally wouldn't ask for more than 300 on a body like that. Especially because it likely needs a good cla. You can upload images to pf and use their exif tool to see the actuations. I did this recently and was shocked to see my year old k7 @ over 30k. http://www.myshuttercount.com Interesting! 24,656 in 2.5 years. Approximately what I'd guessed. What's funny is there are only just over 10,000 K7 images in Lightroom, so my keep-to-toss ratio is just under 50%. And I've probably kept twice as many as I should have! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
I agree with you completely. While the K-7 is limited Iif I ever broke or lost my K-5 I could get by for a while with the K-7. Maybe not so for folks who use high ISO. I do wonder how it would do converted to IR. Never thought about having the AI filter removed Mark On 1/29/2013 10:50 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: My k5 recently took a nasty fall. If it broke i know i could still take quality pictures, but with more restrictions. Lets face it. The k7 is a very competent camera with decent iq at even 1600 iso. Compare to film at the same speed and it destroys it. It represented to me a shift where digital started to beat film in nearly every aspect. It was my first dslr and i fell completely in love. I dont know if i could ever part with it. Ive been certainly thinking about converting it to ir. It would be interesting to see what resolution looks like with no aa filter too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
On Jan 30, 2013, at 20:27 , Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: I agree with you completely. While the K-7 is limited Iif I ever broke or lost my K-5 I could get by for a while with the K-7. Maybe not so for folks who use high ISO. I do wonder how it would do converted to IR. Never thought about having the AI filter removed (shudder) I just pictured having to go back to the K10D (which my son now uses). No! My daughter has the K200D which I got as a replacement (lemon-law, 3 strikes you're out) for a defective-after-1.5-years ist-DS. I've never used it. But I don't want to. The only non-Pentax user in our family is my wife. Maybe SHE can learn to use/love the K7? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
I have always hung onto my prior generation DSLR as a backup when upgrading. I have to admit that since getting the K-5 I have taken about 10 shots with my old K-7. But when my first K-7 broke and needed to spend a few weeks off getting repaired, I was really happy to have my old K-10D still in the bag. If the same ever happens to my K-5 I'm sure I'll feel the same about the K-7. Mark PS: You could also get the K-7 converted to IR or full spectrum ;-) On 1/28/2013 1:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've just worked out a deal to get a lightly-used K5. Happy boy. I told the CFO that the resale value of my K7 is relatively low and might not be worth the bother However, I suppose I should research that a bit to see if I'm being honest. Frankly, I'd rather keep the K7 as a backup, but all the same I realize that every time I've upgraded (ist-DS* - K10D - K7) I've never looked back. So.. with umpty-ump shutter actuations (which I don't know that it really matters but I have used it a LOT) and with a less-than ideal look (paint scraped off of the edges as a result of, y'know, USING the camera) what's the approximate value of such a thing? Photo below documenting the bare-metal-round-the-edges look at the moment. It ain't pretty (but it works wonderfully!). http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/beat_up_k7.JPG If it's worth more than $250 I should probably consider selling it... if not, then no. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
My k5 recently took a nasty fall. If it broke i know i could still take quality pictures, but with more restrictions. Lets face it. The k7 is a very competent camera with decent iq at even 1600 iso. Compare to film at the same speed and it destroys it. It represented to me a shift where digital started to beat film in nearly every aspect. It was my first dslr and i fell completely in love. I dont know if i could ever part with it. Ive been certainly thinking about converting it to ir. It would be interesting to see what resolution looks like with no aa filter too. Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: I have always hung onto my prior generation DSLR as a backup when upgrading. I have to admit that since getting the K-5 I have taken about 10 shots with my old K-7. But when my first K-7 broke and needed to spend a few weeks off getting repaired, I was really happy to have my old K-10D still in the bag. If the same ever happens to my K-5 I'm sure I'll feel the same about the K-7. Mark PS: You could also get the K-7 converted to IR or full spectrum ;-) On 1/28/2013 1:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've just worked out a deal to get a lightly-used K5. Happy boy. I told the CFO that the resale value of my K7 is relatively low and might not be worth the bother However, I suppose I should research that a bit to see if I'm being honest. Frankly, I'd rather keep the K7 as a backup, but all the same I realize that every time I've upgraded (ist-DS* - K10D - K7) I've never looked back. So.. with umpty-ump shutter actuations (which I don't know that it really matters but I have used it a LOT) and with a less-than ideal look (paint scraped off of the edges as a result of, y'know, USING the camera) what's the approximate value of such a thing? Photo below documenting the bare-metal-round-the-edges look at the moment. It ain't pretty (but it works wonderfully!). http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/beat_up_k7.JPG If it's worth more than $250 I should probably consider selling it... if not, then no. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson https://www.facebook.com/zosxaviusphotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
KEH.com is selling used K-7s for about $400. more or less. On 1/28/2013 1:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've just worked out a deal to get a lightly-used K5. Happy boy. I told the CFO that the resale value of my K7 is relatively low and might not be worth the bother However, I suppose I should research that a bit to see if I'm being honest. Frankly, I'd rather keep the K7 as a backup, but all the same I realize that every time I've upgraded (ist-DS* - K10D - K7) I've never looked back. So.. with umpty-ump shutter actuations (which I don't know that it really matters but I have used it a LOT) and with a less-than ideal look (paint scraped off of the edges as a result of, y'know, USING the camera) what's the approximate value of such a thing? Photo below documenting the bare-metal-round-the-edges look at the moment. It ain't pretty (but it works wonderfully!). http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/beat_up_k7.JPG If it's worth more than $250 I should probably consider selling it... if not, then no. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
I've just worked out a deal to get a lightly-used K5. Happy boy. I told the CFO that the resale value of my K7 is relatively low and might not be worth the bother However, I suppose I should research that a bit to see if I'm being honest. Frankly, I'd rather keep the K7 as a backup, but all the same I realize that every time I've upgraded (ist-DS* - K10D - K7) I've never looked back. So.. with umpty-ump shutter actuations (which I don't know that it really matters but I have used it a LOT) and with a less-than ideal look (paint scraped off of the edges as a result of, y'know, USING the camera) what's the approximate value of such a thing? Photo below documenting the bare-metal-round-the-edges look at the moment. It ain't pretty (but it works wonderfully!). http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/beat_up_k7.JPG If it's worth more than $250 I should probably consider selling it... if not, then no. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
On eBay right now they are selling for $325-350. YMMV. If you keep it you run the danger of confusion between the two bodies (viz. the recent experience of another list member). stan On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've just worked out a deal to get a lightly-used K5. Happy boy. I told the CFO that the resale value of my K7 is relatively low and might not be worth the bother However, I suppose I should research that a bit to see if I'm being honest. Frankly, I'd rather keep the K7 as a backup, but all the same I realize that every time I've upgraded (ist-DS* - K10D - K7) I've never looked back. So.. with umpty-ump shutter actuations (which I don't know that it really matters but I have used it a LOT) and with a less-than ideal look (paint scraped off of the edges as a result of, y'know, USING the camera) what's the approximate value of such a thing? Photo below documenting the bare-metal-round-the-edges look at the moment. It ain't pretty (but it works wonderfully!). http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/beat_up_k7.JPG If it's worth more than $250 I should probably consider selling it... if not, then no. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
That's pretty torn up. On pf, good looking k-7s are going for 400. I personally wouldn't ask for more than 300 on a body like that. Especially because it likely needs a good cla. You can upload images to pf and use their exif tool to see the actuations. I did this recently and was shocked to see my year old k7 @ over 30k. I kept my k7 as a backup when I finally got a k5. If my k5 died or broke at least I can keep shooting. That was worth the 300 to me. I paid 500 for the body last winter and loved it so much I knew I had to get a k5 and thus continues my love affair with pentax. I've sold thousands of dollars of shots off my k7, so it def paid for itself quickly. And I though my k7 was looking kind of sad. :) Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On eBay right now they are selling for $325-350. YMMV. If you keep it you run the danger of confusion between the two bodies (viz. the recent experience of another list member). stan On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've just worked out a deal to get a lightly-used K5. Happy boy. I told the CFO that the resale value of my K7 is relatively low and might not be worth the bother However, I suppose I should research that a bit to see if I'm being honest. Frankly, I'd rather keep the K7 as a backup, but all the same I realize that every time I've upgraded (ist-DS* - K10D - K7) I've never looked back. So.. with umpty-ump shutter actuations (which I don't know that it really matters but I have used it a LOT) and with a less-than ideal look (paint scraped off of the edges as a result of, y'know, USING the camera) what's the approximate value of such a thing? Photo below documenting the bare-metal-round-the-edges look at the moment. It ain't pretty (but it works wonderfully!). http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/beat_up_k7.JPG If it's worth more than $250 I should probably consider selling it... if not, then no. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
Charles, Have you considered buying a new base plate? (And you ought to take the sandpaper out of the bottom of your camera bag!) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: I've just worked out a deal to get a lightly-used K5. Happy boy. I told the CFO that the resale value of my K7 is relatively low and might not be worth the bother However, I suppose I should research that a bit to see if I'm being honest. Frankly, I'd rather keep the K7 as a backup, but all the same I realize that every time I've upgraded (ist-DS* - K10D - K7) I've never looked back. So.. with umpty-ump shutter actuations (which I don't know that it really matters but I have used it a LOT) and with a less-than ideal look (paint scraped off of the edges as a result of, y'know, USING the camera) what's the approximate value of such a thing? Photo below documenting the bare-metal-round-the-edges look at the moment. It ain't pretty (but it works wonderfully!). http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/beat_up_k7.JPG If it's worth more than $250 I should probably consider selling it... if not, then no. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
On Jan 28, 2013, at 13:39 , Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Charles, Have you considered buying a new base plate? (And you ought to take the sandpaper out of the bottom of your camera bag!) I must comment that the flash on the back of the iPhone really exaggerates the appearance. But, yes... it's sat on many a stone wall and rough concrete pool patio so it's well-loved. I'd rather USE it than baby it. Sometimes you can do both, and sometimes you have to choose. The counter has rolled over at least 3 times. I have over 10,000 images in LR from this K7 but that doesn't include the tons of rejects from various concert shoots (where a 1-to-10 keep-to-toss ratio is not uncommon). I'll probably just keep it. That's what I really want to do anyways. :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: ... I'll probably just keep it. That's what I really want to do anyways. :-) And why not? Other than a little cash, I suspect the camera has more value for you in being available for use. It's why I keep my E-1, even if I only use it very occasionally now. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday: K7 and Lenses
K7 with kit zoom (18-55) $350 FA 135 2.8 $350 FA 50 1.4 $225 Everything is in excellent shape. Contact me for details -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: K7 and Lenses
Hi Steve, I'm coveting that 50/1.4 mightily and may be in a position to send you a money order for it if you haven't sold it by Tuesday. -- Walt On 10/26/2012 11:04 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: K7 with kit zoom (18-55) $350 FA 135 2.8 $350 FA 50 1.4 $225 Everything is in excellent shape. Contact me for details -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: K7 and Lenses
OK. I forgot to put that this price doesn't include shipping, which is probably about $10. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve, I'm coveting that 50/1.4 mightily and may be in a position to send you a money order for it if you haven't sold it by Tuesday. -- Walt On 10/26/2012 11:04 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: K7 with kit zoom (18-55) $350 FA 135 2.8 $350 FA 50 1.4 $225 Everything is in excellent shape. Contact me for details -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: K7 and Lenses
Apologies to the group for not responding off-list. I was in a hurry to reply before it got away. -- Walt On 10/26/2012 12:29 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: OK. I forgot to put that this price doesn't include shipping, which is probably about $10. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve, I'm coveting that 50/1.4 mightily and may be in a position to send you a money order for it if you haven't sold it by Tuesday. -- Walt On 10/26/2012 11:04 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: K7 with kit zoom (18-55) $350 FA 135 2.8 $350 FA 50 1.4 $225 Everything is in excellent shape. Contact me for details -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax K7
Hi, could you please explain the difference(s) between a K5 and your K7 again? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:32 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: FS: Pentax K7 Sorry to do this on a non-Friday, but I'm leaving town for a week on Friday and I wanted to begin the process. Pentax k7, about 1550 shutter activations. Mildly used, excellent condition Original box, software, manual, strap, body cap. AV cable. Can't find the USB cable yet, but I'm still looking. Spare battery. $400 USD with shipping for CON US. Elsewhere shipping not included. I haven't used this camera very much because I got diverted to mu43 systems. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K7
The K-7 is in almost all respects identical to the K-5 except for the sensor. The K-7 and K20D share the same sensor family with similar IQ. There is nothing wrong with the K20D, but it doesn't have the high ISO performance of the K-5, neither does for all it's improvements the K-7. However for $400 with only ~1200 shots it's a great deal. On 9/24/2012 1:25 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: Hi, could you please explain the difference(s) between a K5 and your K7 again? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:32 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: FS: Pentax K7 Sorry to do this on a non-Friday, but I'm leaving town for a week on Friday and I wanted to begin the process. Pentax k7, about 1550 shutter activations. Mildly used, excellent condition Original box, software, manual, strap, body cap. AV cable. Can't find the USB cable yet, but I'm still looking. Spare battery. $400 USD with shipping for CON US. Elsewhere shipping not included. I haven't used this camera very much because I got diverted to mu43 systems. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS for a friend - K7 and 2 lenses
My friend Alex still has three of his Pentax items for sale: K-7, DA15 Ltd and DA 16-45. He dropped the price a bit on the K-7, too. Please see his email below if you're interested. I can vouch for his honesty and the good condition of his items. John [begin Alex's email] I still have the following Pentax gear available. Shipping is through USPS and free within the US. If you're interested and have any questions, please email me at alexkin...@gmail.com. Pentax K-7 Body $480 Good condition and completely functional. Some scratches, some minor ones on the screen but nothing big, and some scratches on the bottom corners (see link). Includes two batteries, OP/TECH strap, body cap and various accessories that originally came with the camera. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/Pentax%20K7/ Pentax DA 15mm f4 Limited $480 Good condition, rarely been used. Compact but not quite a pancake. Has built-in hood and comes with original lens and rear caps, and leather lens case. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/DA%2015mm/ Pentax DA 16-45mm f4 $250 Good condition, surprisingly versatile lens despite its f-stop and focal range. Sharp, even wide open. Includes hood, lens cap, and rear cap. I'm also including a matching circular polarizer. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/DA%2016_45mm/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS for a friend - K7 and 2 lenses
John, Please tell you friend that I can pay $450 immediately for his DA 15mm. USPS Priority Mail Shipping on that lens should be less than $6. Just need his Paypal addresss. Thanks! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:12 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: My friend Alex still has three of his Pentax items for sale: K-7, DA15 Ltd and DA 16-45. He dropped the price a bit on the K-7, too. Please see his email below if you're interested. I can vouch for his honesty and the good condition of his items. John [begin Alex's email] I still have the following Pentax gear available. Shipping is through USPS and free within the US. If you're interested and have any questions, please email me at alexkin...@gmail.com. Pentax K-7 Body $480 Good condition and completely functional. Some scratches, some minor ones on the screen but nothing big, and some scratches on the bottom corners (see link). Includes two batteries, OP/TECH strap, body cap and various accessories that originally came with the camera. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/Pentax%20K7/ Pentax DA 15mm f4 Limited $480 Good condition, rarely been used. Compact but not quite a pancake. Has built-in hood and comes with original lens and rear caps, and leather lens case. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/DA%2015mm/ Pentax DA 16-45mm f4 $250 Good condition, surprisingly versatile lens despite its f-stop and focal range. Sharp, even wide open. Includes hood, lens cap, and rear cap. I'm also including a matching circular polarizer. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/DA%2016_45mm/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday (posting for a friend) - K7 and some beautiful lenses
Hi All, My friend Alex Lee is selling his Pentax gear. Try as I might, I couldn't convince him not to switch to a Sony NEX camera. I've seen his gear and can vouch that he keeps it in good shape. I'd buy the DA 15 myself if I didn't have other plans for the money at the moment. :( Please contact Alex if you're interested in any of this stuff. Here's his email: Sad to say, I am selling my Pentax gear. I had a great fun these years, but I've switched to a mirrorless system and need to find new owners my Pentax gear. I live in Oakland, CA for local pick up, but I can also ship. Email alexkin...@gmail.com if you're interested or have questions. Here's what I have, with links to photos: Pentax K-7 Body $500 Good condition and completely functional. Some scratches, some minor ones on the screen but nothing big, and some scratches on the bottom corners (see link). Includes two batteries, OP/TECH strap, body cap and various accessories that originally came with the camera. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/Pentax%20K7/ Pentax DA 15mm f4 Limited $480 Good condition, rarely been used. Compact but not quite a pancake. Has built-in hood and comes with original lens and rear caps, and leather lens case. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/DA%2015mm/ Pentax FA 50mm f1.4 $250 Good condition, great portrait lens. Comes with the modern lens cap, and rear cap as well. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/FA%2050mm%20f1_4/ Pentax DA 16-45mm f4 $250 Good condition, surprisingly versatile lens despite its f-stop and focal range. Sharp, even wide open. Includes hood, lens cap, and rear cap. I'm also including a matching circular polarizer. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/DA%2016_45mm/ Pentax DA 55-300 f4-5.8 $250 Good condition and offers quite a range in a compact lens. Comes with hood, lens and rear caps. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/gerbilbox/Photo%20Gear%20Sale/DA%2055_300mm/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K-5 required minor adjustment. It's important if you use autofocus wide open with a fast lens and want to make sure it's the eyeball, rather than the eyelash, that is critically sharp. I had three suspect lenses with my K-10D, the D FA 50, the 77 Ltd and the FA 100 macto. Pentax adjusted the 50 for me, and never got around to sending in the other two. I did a non scientific test of those lenses on the k-5 and other than the 100 macro seem ok. I feel my 100 macro is off slightly, juts does not give the sharpness and pop as its apparently supposed to do. Need to check it out soon. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K7 and K20 AF adjustment
Does any one on the list use this setting on their bodies, to adjust the AF setting on the lens. I was having trouble with AF on the K7 with the Pentax 16-50 2.8. lens..I hardly ever use AF on the K7 and K20. Any thoughts ?? Thanks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment
It's a somewhat lengthy process Mary, especially if you have a few lenses to do, but it's *well* worth the effort. I have done it with all my oft-used glass on my K20D and I will do it all over again if/when I upgrade. You need a solid floor and a well-settled tripod to do it accurately. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM, mary pitrone mapitr...@yahoo.com wrote: Does any one on the list use this setting on their bodies, to adjust the AF setting on the lens. I was having trouble with AF on the K7 with the Pentax 16-50 2.8. lens..I hardly ever use AF on the K7 and K20. Any thoughts ?? Thanks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment
On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: It's a somewhat lengthy process Mary, especially if you have a few lenses to do, but it's *well* worth the effort. I have done it with all my oft-used glass on my K20D and I will do it all over again if/when I upgrade. You need a solid floor and a well-settled tripod to do it accurately. Interesting. I've never seen a need for it on my K-5. I bought a katzeye for my K20, and almost never used autofocus anyways. I think I have more problems getting the camera to autofocus on the right thing, than I do getting it to autofocus accurately. It seems that most of the time I use autofocus, the camera is focused perfectly on the wrong thing. I.e. The microphone in front of the musician. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM, mary pitrone mapitr...@yahoo.com wrote: Does any one on the list use this setting on their bodies, to adjust the AF setting on the lens. I was having trouble with AF on the K7 with the Pentax 16-50 2.8. lens..I hardly ever use AF on the K7 and K20. Any thoughts ?? Thanks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment
I dial in the autofocus on all my lenses. It's fairly simple and well worth the effort. You can find instructions and targets for doing it online. With that 16-50/2.8 you should also check to make sure the focus field is flat. You can do that by shooting a brick wall off a tripod at f 2.8. with each side of the frame equidistant from the center of the lens. If one side of the frame is sharper than the other side, you have a lens with a manufacturing defect. Quite a few of those were produced and sold when the lens was first released. Later production is okay. Paul On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:16 PM, mary pitrone wrote: Does any one on the list use this setting on their bodies, to adjust the AF setting on the lens. I was having trouble with AF on the K7 with the Pentax 16-50 2.8. lens..I hardly ever use AF on the K7 and K20. Any thoughts ?? Thanks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment
On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: It's a somewhat lengthy process Mary, especially if you have a few lenses to do, but it's *well* worth the effort. I have done it with all my oft-used glass on my K20D and I will do it all over again if/when I upgrade. You need a solid floor and a well-settled tripod to do it accurately. Interesting. I've never seen a need for it on my K-5. I bought a katzeye for my K20, and almost never used autofocus anyways. My K-5 required minor adjustment. It's important if you use autofocus wide open with a fast lens and want to make sure it's the eyeball, rather than the eyelash, that is critically sharp. I think I have more problems getting the camera to autofocus on the right thing, than I do getting it to autofocus accurately. Use single point autofocus and choose the point that best suits your image. It seems that most of the time I use autofocus, the camera is focused perfectly on the wrong thing. I.e. The microphone in front of the musician. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM, mary pitrone mapitr...@yahoo.com wrote: Does any one on the list use this setting on their bodies, to adjust the AF setting on the lens. I was having trouble with AF on the K7 with the Pentax 16-50 2.8. lens..I hardly ever use AF on the K7 and K20. Any thoughts ?? Thanks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: It's a somewhat lengthy process Mary, especially if you have a few lenses to do, but it's *well* worth the effort. I have done it with all my oft-used glass on my K20D and I will do it all over again if/when I upgrade. You need a solid floor and a well-settled tripod to do it accurately. Interesting. I've never seen a need for it on my K-5. I bought a katzeye for my K20, and almost never used autofocus anyways. I think I have more problems getting the camera to autofocus on the right thing, than I do getting it to autofocus accurately. It seems that most of the time I use autofocus, the camera is focused perfectly on the wrong thing. I.e. The microphone in front of the musician. Step #1: choose AF point = SEL. Don't use Auto. That's what I find so frustrating with Point'n'Shits, they *always* focus on the wrong thing. I hate 'em! Step #2: either focus on the center point and reframe, or learn how to quickly shift the AF-point with the arrow buttons. This last thing is what has scared me away from the K-7 and K-5 because they changed this in a negative way and I ain't gonna relearn that. Of course, if you always use MF, you don't need this focus adjust nonsense anyhow. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment
On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Step #1: choose AF point = SEL. Don't use Auto. That's what I find so frustrating with Point'n'Shits, they *always* focus on the wrong thing. I hate 'em! That's pretty much what I do. It's not entirely accurate to say that I never let the camera chose the focus point, but that's a decent first approximation. Step #2: either focus on the center point and reframe, or learn how to quickly shift the AF-point with the arrow buttons. This last thing is what has scared me away from the K-7 and K-5 because they changed this in a negative way and I ain't gonna relearn that. Of course, if you always use MF, you don't need this focus adjust nonsense anyhow. I'm using AF more with the K-5. Though I did just pick up a $20 split prism, because shooting with my K-x two weeks ago reminded me of how nice good manual focus is. All that being said, it would probably be worthwhile to dial in the AF adjustment on at least my most commonly used lenses. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
Only sell the K-7 if youv'e got a K-5. Pentax K-5 beats any camera I've ever owned - exept maybe for a film Leica, which I've sold. To me, the K-01 is supplementing my K-5. K-5 is for going photographing. K-01 is for bringing with me, when I'm out to do other things. Optrio WG1 GPS is for wet event - like kayaking. For studio work I even bring my 67II from time to time :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Feb 23, 2012 19:00 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate the advice about KEH. They really aren't my first choice at all, but their email sparked this line of thought. I would certainly try the PDML first. My problem is that the K7 gets almost no use anymore, as I tend to grab the E-P2 or X-10. This leads me to wonder if I should sell it now while it still has some value. I'd put the K7 on Ebay, sell it, then buy a K-01. To me, the K-01 with DA21 and FA43 would be a delightful shooter. If it wouldn't cost me nearly $2000 to get that, I'd go for it now. Although I would prefer it in solid black rather than panda; i could live with bumblebee. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
I appreciate the advice about KEH. They really aren't my first choice at all, but their email sparked this line of thought. I would certainly try the PDML first. My problem is that the K7 gets almost no use anymore, as I tend to grab the E-P2 or X-10. This leads me to wonder if I should sell it now while it still has some value. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:25 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01? From: Steven Desjardins This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? If the K-01 is the tool you need to take your photography where you want it to go, and KEH will offer enough for the K7 to make that possible, it's a no brainer. You've apparently never tried to sell anything to KEH. Moot point. If both conditions apply ... it is a no brainer. If neither condition applies ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate the advice about KEH. They really aren't my first choice at all, but their email sparked this line of thought. I would certainly try the PDML first. My problem is that the K7 gets almost no use anymore, as I tend to grab the E-P2 or X-10. This leads me to wonder if I should sell it now while it still has some value. I'd put the K7 on Ebay, sell it, then buy a K-01. To me, the K-01 with DA21 and FA43 would be a delightful shooter. If it wouldn't cost me nearly $2000 to get that, I'd go for it now. Although I would prefer it in solid black rather than panda; i could live with bumblebee. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
On 2/21/2012 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? I'm seriously considering selling my K-7if I get a K-01, but I'm using the K-7 as a backup body and it gets virtually no use. It seems like the K-01, as a non-SLR, would offer something a little different and better for certain niches than the K-7, but would still be a serviceable backup to the K-5 if one was ever needed. I toted around my old K-10D for years as a backup for the K-7, and shot virtually nothing with it. THe K-01 might actually get used a lot more than a backup but still be available as a backup for the K-5. Obviously, I'm not contemplating making the K-01 my primary camera... Mark PS: I agree with everyone about not selling to KEH. I'd sell to the list or eBay. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
On Feb 22, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Mark C wrote: On 2/21/2012 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? I'm seriously considering selling my K-7if I get a K-01, but I'm using the K-7 as a backup body and it gets virtually no use. It seems like the K-01, as a non-SLR, would offer something a little different and better for certain niches than the K-7, but would still be a serviceable backup to the K-5 if one was ever needed. I toted around my old K-10D for years as a backup for the K-7, and shot virtually nothing with it. THe K-01 might actually get used a lot more than a backup but still be available as a backup for the K-5. Obviously, I'm not contemplating making the K-01 my primary camera... Mark The K-01 does make sense as a backup. Like you, I almost never use my K-7. Paul PS: I agree with everyone about not selling to KEH. I'd sell to the list or eBay. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
From: Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01? From: Steven Desjardins This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? If the K-01 is the tool you need to take your photography where you want it to go, and KEH will offer enough for the K7 to make that possible, it's a no brainer. You've apparently never tried to sell anything to KEH. Moot point. If both conditions apply ... it is a no brainer. If neither condition applies ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
Makes a lot of sense as long as usability is not a priority for you. Also, don't understand selling stuff to KEH. It's like getting Pawn Store prices for your equipment. It's not like there aren't easy avenues to put their profits in your own pocket. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
I would sell the K7 to get a K5, but not a K-01, given the limitations of that camera. I would never sell to KEH. That's like giving it away. Paul On Feb 21, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
On Feb 21, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? It depends on the sort of shooting you do, and how many of the features the K7 has the K-01 doesn't. If I only had one camera I'd much rather have a K-5 than K-01. If you do most of your photography in good light, you probably wouldn't get a lot of IQ improvement going to the K-01 sensor. If you do hand held, low shutter speeds, you'll probably lose sharpness do to the shooting position. If I were buying a camera this week in that price range, I'd probably look for a K-r rather than K-01. Also, Pentax seems to have a bit of difficulty with dot zero syndrome, where there's usually a problem or two with the first releases of new technology. In short, even if I were to buy a K-01 I'd wait a bit and let other people be the guinea pigs, and maybe let the price drop a few bucks. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
From: Steven Desjardins This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? If the K-01 is the tool you need to take your photography where you want it to go, and KEH will offer enough for the K7 to make that possible, it's a no brainer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
If all you care about is image quality, then it's a no brainer Just remember if you like love live view you'll love the K-01, if you hate live view on the other hand On 2/21/2012 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
You'll get a better price if you sell it yourself. I've sold a few things to KEH and their buy prices are almost an insult. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01? This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01? From: Steven Desjardins This is a real question for me. KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that the latter will have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ. Thoughts on this? If the K-01 is the tool you need to take your photography where you want it to go, and KEH will offer enough for the K7 to make that possible, it's a no brainer. You've apparently never tried to sell anything to KEH. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K7/Kr
Those earlier pics from the work area with the vertical interference line ... Looking @ the images again ... the sensor apparently has a number of frozen/hot (red/green) pixels. Well, we took back the K7 and got a new Kr. Today I took it out to the same area. No pixel issues. No vertical interference banding. No problems at all. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
OK, just bit the bullet and ordered the Q with the 01 prime. It is just 599 Euros here now, and an additional 100 Euros cashback from Pentax valid until the end of the month ... On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:07:15 -0600 William Robb wrote: Did you get such an adapter already ? (I think there is no Pentax one yet) I bought the Jinfinance one that's on ebeigh. Will see if I can get one of those too, should be great with the 35mm macro :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
With focal lengths between 5 to 15mm, autofocus is not that important and I don't miss it at all. I don't think you can compare it with video on K-5. Stig Vidar Hovland Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Jan van Wijk [pen...@dfsee.com] Sendt: 3. desember 2011 17:19 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: RE: Q v. K7 No, autofocus IS NOT available while recording video. OK, too bad. That is one of the things I miss on the K5 whan making the occasional video :-) Regards, JvW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
On 03/12/2011 4:08 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: Hi Bill, Did you get such an adapter already ? (I think there is no Pentax one yet) I bought the Jinfinance one that's on ebeigh. It's pretty good. You can set the camera on AE and set the lens for minimum aperture, and use the click stops on the adapter to adjust the aperture. With no aperture ring lenses, the aperture can still be adjusted from wide open to 5 stops down (I think). -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
Hi Bill, On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:07:15 -0600 William Robb wrote: Did you get such an adapter already ? (I think there is no Pentax one yet) I bought the Jinfinance one that's on ebeigh. It's pretty good. Yes, I have seen that listing. Looks good indeed, including the tripod attachement ... You can set the camera on AE and set the lens for minimum aperture, and use the click stops on the adapter to adjust the aperture. With no aperture ring lenses, the aperture can still be adjusted from wide open to 5 stops down (I think). OK, nice! Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
Hi Bill, On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:47:44 -0600 William Robb wrote: The key thing to note here is that the Q had perfectly acceptable IQ. Maybe not under all conditions, but certainly good enough to make it a real photographic tool. And with the K-Q lens adapter, there are some pretty sweet super telephoto possibilities. That would be a strong argument for me (with the 77mm, DA 300 etc) And macro too, perhaps with the DA 35mm or FA50. Did you get such an adapter already ? (I think there is no Pentax one yet) Another question on the Q: Do you know if autofocus can be enabled for Video, to have autofocus while recording ? I heave read mixed views on that ... Regards, JvW PS: Prices seem to have dropped a bit on the Q, after an MRSP of 799 Euros, the streetprice is now arround 600 Euros here. -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Q v. K7
There is adapters. I have one with tripod mount and aperture control. I can search it up for you on ebay if interested. No, autofocus IS NOT available while recording video. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jan van Wijk Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Q v. K7 Did you get such an adapter already ? (I think there is no Pentax one yet) Another question on the Q: Do you know if autofocus can be enabled for Video, to have autofocus while recording ? I heave read mixed views on that ... Regards, JvW PS: Prices seem to have dropped a bit on the Q, after an MRSP of 799 Euros, the streetprice is now arround 600 Euros here. -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Q v. K7
OK, Thanks Stig. On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:41:37 + SV Hovland wrote: There is adapters. I have one with tripod mount and aperture control. I can search it up for you on ebay if interested. I think I have seen that one, it looks good (about 60$ I think). Was wondering if the Pentax would offer more features, like allowing the 4x magnification for focusing. (not available for manual focus lenses sofar) No, autofocus IS NOT available while recording video. OK, too bad. That is one of the things I miss on the K5 whan making the occasional video :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
I have drawers full of 35 mm cameras that could be described like that. William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/12/2011 8:27 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: A page from the Pentax Forums review of the Pentax Q. This page shows a comparison of images from the K7 and the Q. The K7 does better, but the Q is surprisingly close. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-q/shutter-raw-jpg.html I'm having a blast with my Q. Image quality at ISO 125 is excellent, good enough for anything I'd want to print. At ISO 400 it's pretty much at the limit of what it can give decent results to, and above that it is done if getting a technically excellent image is your first priority. Come to think of it, that describes my K7 to a tee. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
The key thing to note here is that the Q had perfectly acceptable IQ. Maybe not under all conditions, but certainly good enough to make it a real photographic tool. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:39 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/12/2011 8:27 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: A page from the Pentax Forums review of the Pentax Q. This page shows a comparison of images from the K7 and the Q. The K7 does better, but the Q is surprisingly close. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-q/shutter-raw-jpg.html I'm having a blast with my Q. Image quality at ISO 125 is excellent, good enough for anything I'd want to print. At ISO 400 it's pretty much at the limit of what it can give decent results to, and above that it is done if getting a technically excellent image is your first priority. Come to think of it, that describes my K7 to a tee. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
Maybe in the past tense? ;-) On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) l...@red4est.com wrote: I have drawers full of 35 mm cameras that could be described like that. William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/12/2011 8:27 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: A page from the Pentax Forums review of the Pentax Q. This page shows a comparison of images from the K7 and the Q. The K7 does better, but the Q is surprisingly close. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-q/shutter-raw-jpg.html I'm having a blast with my Q. Image quality at ISO 125 is excellent, good enough for anything I'd want to print. At ISO 400 it's pretty much at the limit of what it can give decent results to, and above that it is done if getting a technically excellent image is your first priority. Come to think of it, that describes my K7 to a tee. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
On 02/12/2011 11:18 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The key thing to note here is that the Q had perfectly acceptable IQ. Maybe not under all conditions, but certainly good enough to make it a real photographic tool. And with the K-Q lens adapter, there are some pretty sweet super telephoto possibilities. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Q v. K7
A page from the Pentax Forums review of the Pentax Q. This page shows a comparison of images from the K7 and the Q. The K7 does better, but the Q is surprisingly close. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-q/shutter-raw-jpg.html -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q v. K7
On 01/12/2011 8:27 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: A page from the Pentax Forums review of the Pentax Q. This page shows a comparison of images from the K7 and the Q. The K7 does better, but the Q is surprisingly close. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-q/shutter-raw-jpg.html I'm having a blast with my Q. Image quality at ISO 125 is excellent, good enough for anything I'd want to print. At ISO 400 it's pretty much at the limit of what it can give decent results to, and above that it is done if getting a technically excellent image is your first priority. Come to think of it, that describes my K7 to a tee. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Recommended microphone for K7
Hey Folks, I'm finding the movie function pretty fun on my K7, as it is a great way to document botanical sites that I research. However, wind noise is pretty bad. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good microphone? Cheers Barry Barry Rice, Ph.D. Carnivorous Plant FAQ sarracenia.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Recommended microphone for K7
I have been doing video with my E-PL2 and solved the sound problem with an Olympus digital recorder and noise canceling microphone. Then I shoot with the camera sound off and add the higher quality sound when editing. Really nice when you need the sound to overlap multiple scenes, etc. Walt On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Barry Rice bamr...@ucdavis.edu wrote: Hey Folks, I'm finding the movie function pretty fun on my K7, as it is a great way to document botanical sites that I research. However, wind noise is pretty bad. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good microphone? Cheers Barry Barry Rice, Ph.D. Carnivorous Plant FAQ sarracenia.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
Close, you may have missed my message to Paul about the change in behavior if I actually feed in a focal length for the set up. This now stops it firing at full power, but does not get the exposure correct. I can now dial in an exposure adjustment on the camera camera and have it affect the output, but then opening the aperture 2 stop results in a 2 stop variation in exposure (brighter) rather than the P-TTL adjusting for it. Closing the aperture makes it dimmer. It seems that the P-TTL is just not doing much of anything. Using 2 differently powered flashes can only lead to trouble (unless you want 2 different power outputs of course). Leon On 29 April 2011 23:55, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Leon, Combining the info from this thread and another, you have a setup with two AF-360FGZ flashes, a 30mm (or thereabouts) lens on bellows with up to 25mm extension. The lens is stopped down to f/16, and the flash-to-subject distance is about 10 cm for both flashes. I assume both flashes are in the same mode, green P-TTL. My guess is that the extension and stopped-down aperture combined makes the preflash too weak for the camera to gauge the right exposure. It then assumes that the motif is at least 70 cm away and just about pitch dark, blasting it with all flash power available. If this is a correct guess, I believe you will continue to see overexposures as you decrease extension, until you reach a point where the preflash registers with the camera's light meter. I'm curious to see what happens then. Judging from my experience with the 540 earlier today, you should drop very rapidly into underexposure. Assuming constant flash to subject distance for all exposures. It might be a good idea to try one flash at a time too, just to rule out that the dual flash setup mess up anything. I'm very confused by my own dual flash setup, but I suspect that's down to different power rating (GN 54 vs GN 16), so it might not apply to you at all. :-) Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layout on the back the same between the K5 and the K7 (because I do use 2 bodies). I'm hanging out for some rumors of what the next model holds, but there is nothing. And I'm watching other's buying K5's. What should they be working on? I don't know. I would like to see them bring back P-TTL flash working on A lenses like the *istD had. I use that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
I agree the P-TTL doesn't seem to do much. But that could still mean you're having trouble from being outside the metering range of the preflash. What happens if you open the aperture all the way? If that makes the preflash register with the camera, you should get underexposure. :-) lørdag 30. april 2011 skrev Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com følgende: Close, you may have missed my message to Paul about the change in behavior if I actually feed in a focal length for the set up. This now stops it firing at full power, but does not get the exposure correct. I can now dial in an exposure adjustment on the camera camera and have it affect the output, but then opening the aperture 2 stop results in a 2 stop variation in exposure (brighter) rather than the P-TTL adjusting for it. Closing the aperture makes it dimmer. It seems that the P-TTL is just not doing much of anything. Using 2 differently powered flashes can only lead to trouble (unless you want 2 different power outputs of course). Leon On 29 April 2011 23:55, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Leon, Combining the info from this thread and another, you have a setup with two AF-360FGZ flashes, a 30mm (or thereabouts) lens on bellows with up to 25mm extension. The lens is stopped down to f/16, and the flash-to-subject distance is about 10 cm for both flashes. I assume both flashes are in the same mode, green P-TTL. My guess is that the extension and stopped-down aperture combined makes the preflash too weak for the camera to gauge the right exposure. It then assumes that the motif is at least 70 cm away and just about pitch dark, blasting it with all flash power available. If this is a correct guess, I believe you will continue to see overexposures as you decrease extension, until you reach a point where the preflash registers with the camera's light meter. I'm curious to see what happens then. Judging from my experience with the 540 earlier today, you should drop very rapidly into underexposure. Assuming constant flash to subject distance for all exposures. It might be a good idea to try one flash at a time too, just to rule out that the dual flash setup mess up anything. I'm very confused by my own dual flash setup, but I suspect that's down to different power rating (GN 54 vs GN 16), so it might not apply to you at all. :-) Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layou-- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
If I open the aperture all the way it just gets more over exposed. I haven't seen the reversal effect you mentioned. When I get the time I'll sit down with it for a day and try every combination I can think of and write down the results. This will hopefully give me a system I can use with a minimum of messing about. Thanks for your help (and Paul's). Leon On 30 April 2011 19:48, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I agree the P-TTL doesn't seem to do much. But that could still mean you're having trouble from being outside the metering range of the preflash. What happens if you open the aperture all the way? If that makes the preflash register with the camera, you should get underexposure. :-) lørdag 30. april 2011 skrev Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com følgende: Close, you may have missed my message to Paul about the change in behavior if I actually feed in a focal length for the set up. This now stops it firing at full power, but does not get the exposure correct. I can now dial in an exposure adjustment on the camera camera and have it affect the output, but then opening the aperture 2 stop results in a 2 stop variation in exposure (brighter) rather than the P-TTL adjusting for it. Closing the aperture makes it dimmer. It seems that the P-TTL is just not doing much of anything. Using 2 differently powered flashes can only lead to trouble (unless you want 2 different power outputs of course). Leon On 29 April 2011 23:55, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Leon, Combining the info from this thread and another, you have a setup with two AF-360FGZ flashes, a 30mm (or thereabouts) lens on bellows with up to 25mm extension. The lens is stopped down to f/16, and the flash-to-subject distance is about 10 cm for both flashes. I assume both flashes are in the same mode, green P-TTL. My guess is that the extension and stopped-down aperture combined makes the preflash too weak for the camera to gauge the right exposure. It then assumes that the motif is at least 70 cm away and just about pitch dark, blasting it with all flash power available. If this is a correct guess, I believe you will continue to see overexposures as you decrease extension, until you reach a point where the preflash registers with the camera's light meter. I'm curious to see what happens then. Judging from my experience with the 540 earlier today, you should drop very rapidly into underexposure. Assuming constant flash to subject distance for all exposures. It might be a good idea to try one flash at a time too, just to rule out that the dual flash setup mess up anything. I'm very confused by my own dual flash setup, but I suspect that's down to different power rating (GN 54 vs GN 16), so it might not apply to you at all. :-) Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layou
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Leon Altoff wrote: If I open the aperture all the way it just gets more over exposed. I haven't seen the reversal effect you mentioned. When I get the time I'll sit down with it for a day and try every combination I can think of and write down the results. This will hopefully give me a system I can use with a minimum of messing about. It sound as if what you need to do is simply shoot in manual. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
I do at the moment, but it means I am adjusting the manual power on 2 flashes, which is annoying. I'm just trying to make my life easier. Leon On 1 May 2011 09:03, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Leon Altoff wrote: If I open the aperture all the way it just gets more over exposed. I haven't seen the reversal effect you mentioned. When I get the time I'll sit down with it for a day and try every combination I can think of and write down the results. This will hopefully give me a system I can use with a minimum of messing about. It sound as if what you need to do is simply shoot in manual. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
Leon, I don't have any A lens suitable for testing right now, but I'm a bit curious. How is the lens described in the file metadata? Is there any difference between K-7 and the older cameras there? Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layout on the back the same between the K5 and the K7 (because I do use 2 bodies). I'm hanging out for some rumors of what the next model holds, but there is nothing. And I'm watching other's buying K5's. What should they be working on? I don't know. I would like to see them bring back P-TTL flash working on A lenses like the *istD had. I use that. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
I hadn't looked at the metadata from my A400 in detail until you asked. From a recent shoot with the K-5, it's described as an A series lens, and the focal length is noted as 400mm. The focal length was apparently derived from the shake reduction setting, because with a couple of shots where I had neglected to change it from an earlier setting of 85mm, the metadata still reads 85mm, rather than 400mm. On both, the data noted when the AF540 flash fired and recorded f stop and shutter speed. As I recall the K-7 performed in the same manner. Paul On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:05 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Leon, I don't have any A lens suitable for testing right now, but I'm a bit curious. How is the lens described in the file metadata? Is there any difference between K-7 and the older cameras there? Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layout on the back the same between the K5 and the K7 (because I do use 2 bodies). I'm hanging out for some rumors of what the next model holds, but there is nothing. And I'm watching other's buying K5's. What should they be working on? I don't know. I would like to see them bring back P-TTL flash working on A lenses like the *istD had. I use that. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
Hi Jostein, The metadata shows the lens as A series lens in Adobe Bridge or A lens in Pentax Digital Camera Utility. It's the same for if the lens is on the K7 or the K10D. Leon On 29 April 2011 22:05, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Leon, I don't have any A lens suitable for testing right now, but I'm a bit curious. How is the lens described in the file metadata? Is there any difference between K-7 and the older cameras there? Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layout on the back the same between the K5 and the K7 (because I do use 2 bodies). I'm hanging out for some rumors of what the next model holds, but there is nothing. And I'm watching other's buying K5's. What should they be working on? I don't know. I would like to see them bring back P-TTL flash working on A lenses like the *istD had. I use that. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
Hi Paul, The A 400 seems to be behaving the same as my setup when recording the information. I have discovered that if I set the shake reduction the flash behaves differently and doesn't fire at full power all the time. I normally don't bother to set it as it seems unnecessary given I'm shooting with flash and the camera is mounted to a stand. It still doesn't get the exposure correct and is variable depending on how I set things, but it is at least controllable (and more conveniently than running two flashes on manual). When you left the shake reduction on 85 did you notice any difference in exposure? Do you need to set any exposure adjustment when using the 400? I'll come to an understanding on it all eventually (then I'll buy a new camera and the rules will change!). Thanks for your help. Leon On 29 April 2011 22:15, Paul Stenquist pnstenquis...@gmail.com wrote: I hadn't looked at the metadata from my A400 in detail until you asked. From a recent shoot with the K-5, it's described as an A series lens, and the focal length is noted as 400mm. The focal length was apparently derived from the shake reduction setting, because with a couple of shots where I had neglected to change it from an earlier setting of 85mm, the metadata still reads 85mm, rather than 400mm. On both, the data noted when the AF540 flash fired and recorded f stop and shutter speed. As I recall the K-7 performed in the same manner. Paul On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:05 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Leon, I don't have any A lens suitable for testing right now, but I'm a bit curious. How is the lens described in the file metadata? Is there any difference between K-7 and the older cameras there? Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layout on the back the same between the K5 and the K7 (because I do use 2 bodies). I'm hanging out for some rumors of what the next model holds, but there is nothing. And I'm watching other's buying K5's. What should they be working on? I don't know. I would like to see them bring back P-TTL flash working on A lenses like the *istD had. I use that. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
Leon, Combining the info from this thread and another, you have a setup with two AF-360FGZ flashes, a 30mm (or thereabouts) lens on bellows with up to 25mm extension. The lens is stopped down to f/16, and the flash-to-subject distance is about 10 cm for both flashes. I assume both flashes are in the same mode, green P-TTL. My guess is that the extension and stopped-down aperture combined makes the preflash too weak for the camera to gauge the right exposure. It then assumes that the motif is at least 70 cm away and just about pitch dark, blasting it with all flash power available. If this is a correct guess, I believe you will continue to see overexposures as you decrease extension, until you reach a point where the preflash registers with the camera's light meter. I'm curious to see what happens then. Judging from my experience with the 540 earlier today, you should drop very rapidly into underexposure. Assuming constant flash to subject distance for all exposures. It might be a good idea to try one flash at a time too, just to rule out that the dual flash setup mess up anything. I'm very confused by my own dual flash setup, but I suspect that's down to different power rating (GN 54 vs GN 16), so it might not apply to you at all. :-) Jostein 2011/4/24 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layout on the back the same between the K5 and the K7 (because I do use 2 bodies). I'm hanging out for some rumors of what the next model holds, but there is nothing. And I'm watching other's buying K5's. What should they be working on? I don't know. I would like to see them bring back P-TTL flash working on A lenses like the *istD had. I use that. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K7, A Lenses and PTTL (was Re: What next in an SLR?)
I need to find out more about this, because it doesn't work for me. At least, not with the lens I use. I'll admit it's not your normal A lens, but this set up worked on the MZ-S and the *istD and I'd love to have it work on the K7 (or the next camera upgrade). I have added A contacts to a set of bellows. With the camera set to fully open aperture (f2 in this case), and the lens on the bellows closed down when the prefire happens, the camera calculates the correct exposure and the flash fires correctly - using the *istD and 2 AF360 flashes. The K10D and K7 fire the flash at full output. Both the newer cameras behave as if there is an A lens connected to the camera. The camera recognises the aperture range I set the mount to and I can select the aperture accordingly. It even meters correctly for changes in the aperture set on the camera in P mode. Everything except the flash output. If someone has a simple A lens (maximum of 6 contacts on the lens), a K7 and an AF360 flash can you conduct an experiment to see if you get correct P-TTL exposure out of the setup? That will at least let me know if it's just me or a design issue. I'll have to try high speed sync mode to see if that makes a difference since it works for Paul. Leon On 18 April 2011 23:26, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Thibouille wrote: AFAIK the A lenses do PTTL with K7. And with the K5 as well. I frequently use it with my A400/5.6 in high-speed synch mode. Paul 2011/4/18 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi Tim, I've considered this same thing, though Pentax normally do manage to make a nice improvement between models. Personally I've decided to upgrade every second major upgrade - bought a K10D, skipped the K20D, bought the K7, skipped the K5, buy the K3?. I'll admit I'd like the improved low light capability of the K5 over the K7, but as I'm expecting the K3 (for want of a better model number to apply) to be improved I can wait. For a while. If it's not improved then I will probably go out and buy a K5 simply to keep the control layout on the back the same between the K5 and the K7 (because I do use 2 bodies). I'm hanging out for some rumors of what the next model holds, but there is nothing. And I'm watching other's buying K5's. What should they be working on? I don't know. I would like to see them bring back P-TTL flash working on A lenses like the *istD had. I use that. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?
Was this on Halloween? Are there any Aliens going to school there? (sorry, can't resist) ann John Sessoms wrote: From: Charles Robinson On Nov 5, 2010, at 8:59, eckinator wrote: probably the red and blue pixels weren't fully charged yet - did you use a fresh battery? also was this a bw or color SD card? (I guess I forgot which list I was posting this to). :-) He may not be that far off. The first image looks like only the pixels from the sensor's green sites were recorded. Did I understand correctly that the second image was taken without the flash; that you took an image with flash which corrected the problem? And after the flash image, you were then able to record a normal image without the flash? Digital cameras are essentially a sensor a tiny computer. I think you had a problem with the tiny computer inside the camera. Or else the sensor is getting ready to flake out on you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
