Re: OT Computer help

[mike wilson]

Thanks to all for your useful and amusing suggestions.  We seem to be coming to 
some sort of understanding.  I press the buttons, it does what it thinks is 
suitable.  Such is life.


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Re: OT Computer help

[Brian Walters]

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:14:20 +0100, "mike wilson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> >
> Except.  that doesn't work.  Do it, close Explorer and reopen it and 
> you are back in the old "one pane" 8-))) view.  I'm a "two pane" kind of 
> guy.


Hmmm - strange.  It opens in 2 pane for me.

I'm a "2-pane guy" as well but I hate Explorer's implementation of
2-pane. I use a third party file manager.  A good free one is Free
Commander.

http://www.freecommander.com/fc_faq_en.htm

There are others.



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Re: OT Computer help

[Scott Loveless]

Doug Franklin wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
>> A useful resource for all sorts of Windows annoyances
>> is.annoyances.org:
>>
>> www.annoyances.org
>>
>> Re: Windows Explorer...
>>
>> Others may have mentioned this but, if you're using "classic" view, open
>> Explorer, go to "View">"Explorer Bar" and tick "Folders".  If you then
>> go to "Tools">"Folder Options">"View", you can click the button that
>> applies the view settings of the current folder to all folders.
> 
> The other thing to do is open an Explorer view, and click "Tools", then 
> "Folder Options".  Click the "View" tab on the dialog box that appears. 
>   Find a checkbox beside "Remember each folder's view settings".  Make 
> sure this us *not* checked, then click "OK" to close the dialog box. 
> Now, all the changes you make to the folders view will apply to all 
> folders, instead of you having to make the same settings repeatedly in 
> different folders.
> 
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Re: OT Computer help

[Doug Franklin]

Brian Walters wrote:
> A useful resource for all sorts of Windows annoyances
> is.annoyances.org:
> 
> www.annoyances.org
> 
> Re: Windows Explorer...
> 
> Others may have mentioned this but, if you're using "classic" view, open
> Explorer, go to "View">"Explorer Bar" and tick "Folders".  If you then
> go to "Tools">"Folder Options">"View", you can click the button that
> applies the view settings of the current folder to all folders.

The other thing to do is open an Explorer view, and click "Tools", then 
"Folder Options".  Click the "View" tab on the dialog box that appears. 
  Find a checkbox beside "Remember each folder's view settings".  Make 
sure this us *not* checked, then click "OK" to close the dialog box. 
Now, all the changes you make to the folders view will apply to all 
folders, instead of you having to make the same settings repeatedly in 
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Re: OT Computer help

[mike wilson]

Brian Walters wrote:

>A useful resource for all sorts of Windows annoyances
>is.annoyances.org:
>
>www.annoyances.org
>
>Re: Windows Explorer...
>
>Others may have mentioned this but, if you're using "classic" view, open
>Explorer, go to "View">"Explorer Bar" and tick "Folders".  If you then
>go to "Tools">"Folder Options">"View", you can click the button that
>applies the view settings of the current folder to all folders.
>  
>
Except.  that doesn't work.  Do it, close Explorer and reopen it and 
you are back in the old "one pane" 8-))) view.  I'm a "two pane" kind of 
guy.

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Re: OT Computer help

[Brian Walters]

A useful resource for all sorts of Windows annoyances
is.annoyances.org:

www.annoyances.org

Re: Windows Explorer...

Others may have mentioned this but, if you're using "classic" view, open
Explorer, go to "View">"Explorer Bar" and tick "Folders".  If you then
go to "Tools">"Folder Options">"View", you can click the button that
applies the view settings of the current folder to all folders.


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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:51:02 +0100, "mike wilson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> >
> Hmmm.  All I want I to do is _work_ without giving me loads to do or 
> making me feel like a passenger on a cruise liner.  The Titanic springs 
> to mind.
> 
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Re: OT Computer help

[mike wilson]

William Robb wrote:

>- Original Message - 
>From: "mike wilson"
>Subject: Re: OT Computer help
>
>  
>
>>Hmmm.  All I want I to do is _work_ without giving me loads to do or
>>making me feel like a passenger on a cruise liner.  The Titanic springs
>>to mind.
>>
>>
>
>So, what were you using prior to this? Did it not need any configuring to make 
>it look like how 
>you wanted it to look?
>  
>
Millenium Edition.  It did but once I had done it, it stayed that way.  
XP seems to have a mind of its own.  It's even altering the way apps 
work and appear after I've changed them to do what I want.

One good thing.  I am working on the new machine in one room, the old 
machine is in the room next door.  I can hear it over the new machine.  
Bliss.

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Re: OT Computer help

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:51:02 +0200 schreef mike wilson  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Lucas Rijnders wrote:
>
>> Op Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:26:15 +0200 schreef mike wilson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> Not necessarily.  I actually don't think there is a way (within XP) to
>>> make it _open_ Explorer with the folders pane open.  You have to go the
>>
>> If I press the  + E on my pc, explorer opens with the
>> folder pane. I don't think I did something special to make it behave  
>> that
>> way...
>>
> Stap me vitals!  My sanity owes you more alcohol than your liver can
> cope with.

 I have a pretty well-trained liver...

> Now to work out exactly what is happening there and apply it
> to the "my computer" shortcut.  Many, many thanks.
>
>> If you feel geeky, you can make shortcuts that'll open the explorer  
>> with a
>> specified folder opened, and even a specified item pre-selected... See  
>> for
>> instance 
>>
>>
> Hmmm.  All I want I to do is _work_ without giving me loads to do or
> making me feel like a passenger on a cruise liner.  The Titanic springs
> to mind.

I actually set some of there up at work, because it greatly speeds things  
up if you often have to be in a certain folder. At home, I can't be  
bothered...

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Re: OT Computer help

[William Robb]

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From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: OT Computer help



>>
> Hmmm.  All I want I to do is _work_ without giving me loads to do or
> making me feel like a passenger on a cruise liner.  The Titanic springs
> to mind.

So, what were you using prior to this? Did it not need any configuring to make 
it look like how 
you wanted it to look?

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Re: OT Computer help

[William Robb]

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From: "mike wilson" <
Subject: Re: OT Computer help

>>>1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane active?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Not quite certain what you mean by this. Dig around in the View tab of Folder 
>>Options and see 
>>if
>>you can suss it out.
>>
>>
>
> If you press the "folders" button in the button bar at the top (this is
> the computer explorer - used to be called "file manager") you will gat a
> sidepane opening that shows you all the folder hierarchy for that
> machine and any network it is connected to.  I want that there when I
> open Explorer, not having to press another button every time I open the app.

Gotcha. I think if you switch to "Classic View" that will happen automatically, 
and it gets rid 
og a lot of the goofy eye candy that the XP view is loaded down with.
Try "Use Windows classic folders" in the General tab of Folder Options

>
>>
>>
>>>2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in
>>>danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is
>>>connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make
>>>it go away") from appearing?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You pretty much have to go through the security center and turn stuff off. It 
>>would help if 
>>you
>>could be a little more specific about the alarms. The computer may be at risk 
>>warnings 
>>generally
>>relate to the firewall or antivirus protocols. If you have the firewall 
>>turned off, then you
>>need to go into security and tell the computer you have a firewall solution. 
>>If you have no
>>antivirus installed, you need to go to the security section and tell it that 
>>you have a
>>solution.
>>The easiest way to make the wireless thing go away is to use a wired network 
>>and disable the
>>wireless network connection in Network Connections. There may be other 
>>methods, but I don't 
>>have
>>my machine on a wireless network, and so haven't had to do more than turn off 
>>wireless.
>>
>>
> It's all turned off and other things are taking care of the potential
> problems.  Better things, that I can specify to do exactly what I want.
> But, like a child removed from its lollypop, the OS keeps wailing away
> in the background.
>
>>Win XP Pro is a good OS, presuming you don't want to get caught up in the 
>>Cult of Mac, and 
>>want
>>to use a computer without having to be a pocket protector wearing geek.
>>Unfortunately, the security stuff is in place because we don't hang script 
>>kiddies by their
>>entrails after killing any children they may have procreated to make sure 
>>they don't pass on
>>their genes to future generations.
>>If you really want to be babysat, try Vista...
>>
>>
> Looks like I am a pocket protecter sort of guy.  There is no hope for
> me, as I always suspected.  There is even less hope for dorks who know
> that hiding behind a router is at least as good as any security software
> but can't enable their product to realise that situation and turn its
> whinging off.

H, I'm on XP Pro, and get no whinging from the OS about anything. Sometimes 
you need to tell 
it to mind itself, but this is often a one shot deal where you click a radio 
button in the 
warning to not tell you about this (whatever it is) again.
I'm in Classic View, firewall is off, I look after the antivirus stuff, and 
I've told Windows 
that I am looking after things in the security section.
If you are running on wireless, you may have to tolerate the messages about the 
wireless 
network, if you are connected to your router with a wire, turn off the wireless 
adaptor and it 
should stop telling you about that, as well.

Once you get the thing set up to suit you, take advantage of the Files and 
Settings Transfer 
Wizard to embed your settings onto a CD or other storage device (I use a slow 
flash card from an 
old digital camera). This way, if you ever need to reload your OS, you can run 
the Settings 
Wizard and the machine will set itself up the way you like.

William Robb


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Re: OT Computer help

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Lucas Rijnders" 
Subject: Re: OT Computer help


> Op Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:26:15 +0200 schreef mike wilson  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> Not necessarily.  I actually don't think there is a way (within XP) to
>> make it _open_ Explorer with the folders pane open.  You have to go the
> 
> If I press the  + E on my pc, explorer opens with the  
> folder pane. I don't think I did something special to make it behave that  
> way...
> 
> If you feel geeky, you can make shortcuts that'll open the explorer with a  
> specified folder opened, and even a specified item pre-selected... See for  
> instance <http://xona.com/2004/07/18.html>

Thanks for that. You've just saved me about 4 mouse clicks every time I open 
Explorer.

William Robb

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Re: OT Computer help

[mike wilson]

Lucas Rijnders wrote:

>Op Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:26:15 +0200 schreef mike wilson  
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  
>
>>Not necessarily.  I actually don't think there is a way (within XP) to
>>make it _open_ Explorer with the folders pane open.  You have to go the
>>
>>
>
>If I press the  + E on my pc, explorer opens with the  
>folder pane. I don't think I did something special to make it behave that  
>way...
>  
>
Stap me vitals!  My sanity owes you more alcohol than your liver can 
cope with.  Now to work out exactly what is happening there and apply it 
to the "my computer" shortcut.  Many, many thanks.

>If you feel geeky, you can make shortcuts that'll open the explorer with a  
>specified folder opened, and even a specified item pre-selected... See for  
>instance 
>  
>
Hmmm.  All I want I to do is _work_ without giving me loads to do or 
making me feel like a passenger on a cruise liner.  The Titanic springs 
to mind.


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Re: OT Computer help

[mike wilson]

William Robb wrote:

>- Original Message - 
>From: "mike wilson"
>Subject: OT Computer help
>
>
>  
>
>>Hate to be a pest but..
>>
>>New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck
>>in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I
>>have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am
>>beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
>>
>>So:
>>1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane active?
>>
>>
>
>Not quite certain what you mean by this. Dig around in the View tab of Folder 
>Options and see if 
>you can suss it out.
>  
>

If you press the "folders" button in the button bar at the top (this is 
the computer explorer - used to be called "file manager") you will gat a 
sidepane opening that shows you all the folder hierarchy for that 
machine and any network it is connected to.  I want that there when I 
open Explorer, not having to press another button every time I open the app.

>  
>
>>2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in
>>danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is
>>connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make
>>it go away") from appearing?
>>
>>
>
>You pretty much have to go through the security center and turn stuff off. It 
>would help if you 
>could be a little more specific about the alarms. The computer may be at risk 
>warnings generally 
>relate to the firewall or antivirus protocols. If you have the firewall turned 
>off, then you 
>need to go into security and tell the computer you have a firewall solution. 
>If you have no 
>antivirus installed, you need to go to the security section and tell it that 
>you have a 
>solution.
>The easiest way to make the wireless thing go away is to use a wired network 
>and disable the 
>wireless network connection in Network Connections. There may be other 
>methods, but I don't have 
>my machine on a wireless network, and so haven't had to do more than turn off 
>wireless.
>  
>
It's all turned off and other things are taking care of the potential 
problems.  Better things, that I can specify to do exactly what I want.  
But, like a child removed from its lollypop, the OS keeps wailing away 
in the background.

>Win XP Pro is a good OS, presuming you don't want to get caught up in the Cult 
>of Mac, and want 
>to use a computer without having to be a pocket protector wearing geek.
>Unfortunately, the security stuff is in place because we don't hang script 
>kiddies by their 
>entrails after killing any children they may have procreated to make sure they 
>don't pass on 
>their genes to future generations.
>If you really want to be babysat, try Vista...
>  
>
Looks like I am a pocket protecter sort of guy.  There is no hope for 
me, as I always suspected.  There is even less hope for dorks who know 
that hiding behind a router is at least as good as any security software 
but can't enable their product to realise that situation and turn its 
whinging off.

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Re: OT Computer help

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:26:15 +0200 schreef mike wilson  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Not necessarily.  I actually don't think there is a way (within XP) to
> make it _open_ Explorer with the folders pane open.  You have to go the

If I press the  + E on my pc, explorer opens with the  
folder pane. I don't think I did something special to make it behave that  
way...

If you feel geeky, you can make shortcuts that'll open the explorer with a  
specified folder opened, and even a specified item pre-selected... See for  
instance 

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Re: OT Computer help

[mike wilson]

P. J. Alling wrote:

>mike wilson wrote:
>  
>
>>Hate to be a pest but..
>>
>>New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck 
>>in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I 
>>have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am 
>>beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
>>
>>So:
>>1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane active?
>>2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in 
>>danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is 
>>connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make 
>>it go away") from appearing?
>>  
>>
>>
>Answers to all three. Upgrade to Win2k. 
>  
>

Don't tempt me.  It almost seems worth reinstalling everything after a 
reformat of the HDD to get rid of all this crap.  I'm sure that 
sentiment will only grow.  The _only_ reason I am persisting is ease of 
large HDD installation.

>Oh yes you want to use Adobe products, I'm sorry you're stuck.  (but you 
>can quietly seethe about Adobe not supporting any earlier OS from 
>Microsoft, I do).  There are ways to shut most of that crap off, until 
>the next damned upgrade from Microsoft turns them back on.  I'll have to 
>look them up if someone doesn't tell you before I get around to it.
>  
>
Not necessarily.  I actually don't think there is a way (within XP) to 
make it _open_ Explorer with the folders pane open.  You have to go the 
extra click on the "folders" button at the top.  I'll look in TweakUI 
but I won't hold my breath.  I guessed I would have to go into Task 
Manager and start switching off processes but I hoped that I was just 
missing something obvious.  Obviously not.

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Re: OT Computer help

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Carl G"
Subject: RE: OT Computer help


> Looking at, paying for or installing a Microsoft fix in the hope that it
> will make another Microsoft product work better is closely related to
> throwing good money after bad.

None of the software on that page is a Microsoft fix, and if it keeps me from 
having to wear 
rubber pants and a pocket protector, I'm all for it, whether it costs a few 
pennies or not.

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Re: OT Computer help

[P. J. Alling]

Tweek UI has always been free.  However last time I downloaded a version 
was for windows 98.  Every other version of Windows seems to have the 
control you need hidden somewhere, (this was noticeable lacking in Win95 
though less so in Win98).

Carl G wrote:
> Looking at, paying for or installing a Microsoft fix in the hope that it
> will make another Microsoft product work better is closely related to
> throwing good money after bad. 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Scott Loveless
> Sent: 6. april 2008 19:30
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> Subject: Re: OT Computer help
>
> mike wilson wrote:
>   
>> Hate to be a pest but..
>>
>> New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck 
>> in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I 
>> have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am 
>> beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
>>
>> So:
>> 1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane
>> 
> active?
>   
>> 2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in 
>> danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is 
>> connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make 
>> it go away") from appearing?
>>
>> I'm sure there will be more but those irritations will do for now.
>>
>> 
> The easiest solution for all of this is to download tweakui. 
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
>
>   


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RE: OT Computer help

[Carl G]

Looking at, paying for or installing a Microsoft fix in the hope that it
will make another Microsoft product work better is closely related to
throwing good money after bad. 


-Original Message-
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mike wilson wrote:
> Hate to be a pest but..
> 
> New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck 
> in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I 
> have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am 
> beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
> 
> So:
> 1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane
active?
> 2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in 
> danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is 
> connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make 
> it go away") from appearing?
> 
> I'm sure there will be more but those irritations will do for now.
> 
The easiest solution for all of this is to download tweakui. 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

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Re: OT Computer help

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless"
Subject: Re: OT Computer help



> The easiest solution for all of this is to download tweakui.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Sweet!!!
I forgot to mention to Mike that setting the computer to "Classic View" is a 
good way to start 
setting up XP.

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[Anthony Farr]

Mike,

Mine is XP Home but locations and methods are similar if not the same.  Note
that I'm using the "Classic" view and not the rather naff XP view.  I think
there is more flexibility in "Classic".

The Windows Explorer shortcut should be at START > ALL PROGRAMS >
ACCESSORIES > WINDOWS EXPLORER.  Perhaps you should right click it and "send
to... desktop (create shortcut)", then drag the new shortcut into the Quick
Launch bar for future ease of access.  

If an open folder does not have a "Folders" button then VIEW > TOOLBARS >
CUSTOMISE and move the "folders" button from the "available" list to the
"active" list.

As well, when you go to open a folder you can highlight its icon, right
click and choose "explore" from the drop down menu.

Some warnings will have a checkbox like "Don't show me this warning again"
but if not you'll get accustomed to dismissing overly cautious warnings
reflexively.

Hope this helps, regards,
Anthony Farr


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> mike wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 2:57 AM
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: OT Computer help
> 
> Hate to be a pest but..
> 
> New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck
> in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I
> have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am
> beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
> 
> So:
> 1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane
active?
> 2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in
> danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is
> connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make
> it go away") from appearing?
> 
> I'm sure there will be more but those irritations will do for now.
> 
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Re: OT Computer help

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mike wilson wrote:
> Hate to be a pest but..
> 
> New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck 
> in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I 
> have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am 
> beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
> 
> So:
> 1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane active?
> 2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in 
> danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is 
> connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make 
> it go away") from appearing?
> 
> I'm sure there will be more but those irritations will do for now.
> 
The easiest solution for all of this is to download tweakui. 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

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Re: OT Computer help

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"
Subject: OT Computer help


> Hate to be a pest but..
>
> New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck
> in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I
> have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am
> beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
>
> So:
> 1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane active?

Not quite certain what you mean by this. Dig around in the View tab of Folder 
Options and see if 
you can suss it out.

> 2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in
> danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is
> connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make
> it go away") from appearing?

You pretty much have to go through the security center and turn stuff off. It 
would help if you 
could be a little more specific about the alarms. The computer may be at risk 
warnings generally 
relate to the firewall or antivirus protocols. If you have the firewall turned 
off, then you 
need to go into security and tell the computer you have a firewall solution. If 
you have no 
antivirus installed, you need to go to the security section and tell it that 
you have a 
solution.
The easiest way to make the wireless thing go away is to use a wired network 
and disable the 
wireless network connection in Network Connections. There may be other methods, 
but I don't have 
my machine on a wireless network, and so haven't had to do more than turn off 
wireless.

Win XP Pro is a good OS, presuming you don't want to get caught up in the Cult 
of Mac, and want 
to use a computer without having to be a pocket protector wearing geek.
Unfortunately, the security stuff is in place because we don't hang script 
kiddies by their 
entrails after killing any children they may have procreated to make sure they 
don't pass on 
their genes to future generations.
If you really want to be babysat, try Vista...

William Robb



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Re: OT Computer help

[P. J. Alling]

mike wilson wrote:
> Hate to be a pest but..
>
> New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck 
> in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I 
> have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am 
> beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.
>
> So:
> 1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane active?
> 2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in 
> danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is 
> connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make 
> it go away") from appearing?
>   
Answers to all three. Upgrade to Win2k. 

Oh yes you want to use Adobe products, I'm sorry you're stuck.  (but you 
can quietly seethe about Adobe not supporting any earlier OS from 
Microsoft, I do).  There are ways to shut most of that crap off, until 
the next damned upgrade from Microsoft turns them back on.  I'll have to 
look them up if someone doesn't tell you before I get around to it.
> I'm sure there will be more but those irritations will do for now.
>
>   


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OT Computer help

[mike wilson]

Hate to be a pest but..

New machine is up and running (eventually: the "reset" button was stuck 
in, so it took me two days to work out why there was no "POST") and I 
have, somewhat against my better judgement, installed XP Pro.  I am 
beginning to realise why so many people liken it to tinnitus or toothache.

So:
1. How do you get "Explorer" (not IE) to open with the "folder" pane active?
2. How do you stop the irritating messages ("Your computer may be in 
danger!" [of being thrown out of the house] "Wireless network is 
connected.  Signal strength - very good" "Click on the balloon to make 
it go away") from appearing?

I'm sure there will be more but those irritations will do for now.

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Re: OT computer help

[graywolf]

I've got one of those 3COM cards with the retractable antenna. Very 
convenient not having to remove it when I put the Thinkpad in its case.

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David Mann wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Bob W wrote:
> 
>> I have 2 PCMCIA slots on my Dell. One of them contains a 5 GB hard
>> disk used for backup of Word files and so on, the other contains my
>> wireless modem. Useful little slots.
> 
> We have one slot in our laptop.  I threw a wireless network card into  
> it, as I figured that'd be cheaper than buying the optional internal  
> wireless adaptor from the manufacturer.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 
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Re: OT computer help

[David Mann]

On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Bob W wrote:

> I have 2 PCMCIA slots on my Dell. One of them contains a 5 GB hard
> disk used for backup of Word files and so on, the other contains my
> wireless modem. Useful little slots.

We have one slot in our laptop.  I threw a wireless network card into  
it, as I figured that'd be cheaper than buying the optional internal  
wireless adaptor from the manufacturer.

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RE: OT computer help

[Bill Owens]

If what I'm seeing is a PCMCIA slot, it's the only one on my Inspiron 1505,
but it does have 4 USB slots, and came with a 4 hub port for a total of 7.  

Bill


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I have 2 PCMCIA slots on my Dell. One of them contains a 5 GB hard
disk used for backup of Word files and so on, the other contains my
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RE: OT computer help

[Bob W]

I have 2 PCMCIA slots on my Dell. One of them contains a 5 GB hard
disk used for backup of Word files and so on, the other contains my
wireless modem. Useful little slots.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
> Sent: 18 October 2006 14:50
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> Subject: Re: OT computer help
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Buy a PCMCIA card reader for SD cards, pop it in the slot, put your
> latest shots from the *ist D in there, and watch PS Elements 5.0
open
> it up and download the photos.
> 
> The PCMCIA cards are an interchangable way to install hardware onto
> your laptop.  You can get wireless cards, bluetooth cards, memory
> cards, all kinds of optional stuff.  Nowdays, the Dell PC probably
> comes with what you want already built in and most hardware plugs
into
> your USB ports.  But it is still an easy way to get something like
an
> SD card reader onboard.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On 10/18/06, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just discovered what appears to be a PCMCIA slot on my 
> Dell 1505.  There
> > is a little black thingy that is currently in the slot that 
> pops out and
> > seems to have a couple of ridge like projects that are 
> apparently guides for
> > different cards.  Other than showing my lack of knowledge 
> of 'puters, can
> > anyone tell me anything about this slot?  No info in the 
> manual nor any info
> > I can find on the Dell site.
> >
> > Bill
> >
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Re: OT computer help

[Charles Robinson]

On Oct 18, 2006, at 9:00, Bill Owens wrote:

> Thanks Bob,
>
> I normally use a Sandisk 12 in one usb card reader do download from  
> the
> *istD CF card.  I'm just curious as to what this little plastic  
> "card" is
> for.  Looks like is can use memory stick, sd and PCMCIA cards.   
> I'll take a
> photo of it later and post it.
>

Sounds like you already have a card reader in there!  But as it IS a  
"PCMCIA card", I doubt that it has a SLOT for the same kind of  
thing.  Sure you don't mean Compact Flash?

  -Charles

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Re: OT computer help

[Privé]

Op Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:28:22 +0200 schreef Bill Owens  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I just discovered what appears to be a PCMCIA slot on my Dell 1505.   
> There
> is a little black thingy that is currently in the slot that pops out and
> seems to have a couple of ridge like projects that are apparently guides  
> for
> different cards.  Other than showing my lack of knowledge of 'puters, can
> anyone tell me anything about this slot?  No info in the manual nor any  
> info
> I can find on the Dell site.

Hi Bill,

Apart from a PCMCIA slot, it could also be an Express Card slot (see  
www.expresscard.org). Same function, but newer, faster, better and utterly  
incompatible...

If you plan on buying something that fits it, you might want to make sure  
it's the correct card for the slot.
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[Eactivist]

In a message dated 10/18/2006 7:01:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I normally use a Sandisk 12 in one usb card reader do download from the
*istD CF card.  I'm just curious as to what this little plastic "card" is
for.  Looks like is can use memory stick, sd and PCMCIA cards.  I'll take a
photo of it later and post it.

Bill

It's not a card, it's a plastic place holder. I guess to protect the port. 
When I first found mine on my laptop, I thought, hey, hey, I can stick CF or SD 
cards in there! Cool, this laptop is already setup for photos! But that is not 
what it is, it is a PCMCIA port. Others on list have already told you more 
than I could about it. But, yes, it is a tad disappointing. One can stick a 
card 
reader into that port, but it is not the cool built-in card reader I 
originally thought it was (and it appears you originally thought it was). Maybe 
it's 
cooler :-), but one has to spend a little more to make it a card reader.

HTH, Marnie :-) 

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Re: OT computer help

[Ryan Brooks]

Actually, make sure you get a CardBus reader instead;  physically 
compatible with PCMCIA, but much faster transfers.  (A USB2.0 reader 
will be much faster than just a normal PCMCIA reader.)

-Ryan
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:50 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: OT computer help
>
> Bill,
>
> Buy a PCMCIA card reader for SD cards, pop it in the slot, put your
> latest shots from the *ist D in there, and watch PS Elements 5.0 open
> it up and download the photos.
>
> The PCMCIA cards are an interchangable way to install hardware onto
> your laptop.  You can get wireless cards, bluetooth cards, memory
> cards, all kinds of optional stuff.  Nowdays, the Dell PC probably
> comes with what you want already built in and most hardware plugs into
> your USB ports.  But it is still an easy way to get something like an
> SD card reader onboard.
>
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On 10/18/06, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I just discovered what appears to be a PCMCIA slot on my Dell 1505.  There
>> is a little black thingy that is currently in the slot that pops out and
>> seems to have a couple of ridge like projects that are apparently guides
>> 
> for
>   
>> different cards.  Other than showing my lack of knowledge of 'puters, can
>> anyone tell me anything about this slot?  No info in the manual nor any
>> 
> info
>   
>> I can find on the Dell site.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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Re: OT computer help

[Scott Loveless]

On 10/18/06, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just discovered what appears to be a PCMCIA slot on my Dell 1505.  There
> is a little black thingy that is currently in the slot that pops out and
> seems to have a couple of ridge like projects that are apparently guides for
> different cards.  Other than showing my lack of knowledge of 'puters, can
> anyone tell me anything about this slot?  No info in the manual nor any info
> I can find on the Dell site.
>

Sure thing, Bill.  The PCMCIA slot is your laptop's equivalent of the
PCI or ISA slots in your desktop machine.  These slots are used for
add-on cards.  Commonly they're used for ethernet, wireless LAN,
modems, USB hubs, microdrives, and I've even seen serial port and SATA
cards.  A search at newegg.com for "PCMCIA" yields over 200 results.
Just pull out that black thingy and slide in a PCMCIA card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=pcmcia&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

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RE: OT computer help

[Bill Owens]

Thanks Bob,

I normally use a Sandisk 12 in one usb card reader do download from the
*istD CF card.  I'm just curious as to what this little plastic "card" is
for.  Looks like is can use memory stick, sd and PCMCIA cards.  I'll take a
photo of it later and post it.

Bill

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Sullivan
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Bill,

Buy a PCMCIA card reader for SD cards, pop it in the slot, put your
latest shots from the *ist D in there, and watch PS Elements 5.0 open
it up and download the photos.

The PCMCIA cards are an interchangable way to install hardware onto
your laptop.  You can get wireless cards, bluetooth cards, memory
cards, all kinds of optional stuff.  Nowdays, the Dell PC probably
comes with what you want already built in and most hardware plugs into
your USB ports.  But it is still an easy way to get something like an
SD card reader onboard.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 10/18/06, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just discovered what appears to be a PCMCIA slot on my Dell 1505.  There
> is a little black thingy that is currently in the slot that pops out and
> seems to have a couple of ridge like projects that are apparently guides
for
> different cards.  Other than showing my lack of knowledge of 'puters, can
> anyone tell me anything about this slot?  No info in the manual nor any
info
> I can find on the Dell site.
>
> Bill
>
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Re: OT computer help

[Bob Sullivan]

Bill,

Buy a PCMCIA card reader for SD cards, pop it in the slot, put your
latest shots from the *ist D in there, and watch PS Elements 5.0 open
it up and download the photos.

The PCMCIA cards are an interchangable way to install hardware onto
your laptop.  You can get wireless cards, bluetooth cards, memory
cards, all kinds of optional stuff.  Nowdays, the Dell PC probably
comes with what you want already built in and most hardware plugs into
your USB ports.  But it is still an easy way to get something like an
SD card reader onboard.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 10/18/06, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just discovered what appears to be a PCMCIA slot on my Dell 1505.  There
> is a little black thingy that is currently in the slot that pops out and
> seems to have a couple of ridge like projects that are apparently guides for
> different cards.  Other than showing my lack of knowledge of 'puters, can
> anyone tell me anything about this slot?  No info in the manual nor any info
> I can find on the Dell site.
>
> Bill
>
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OT computer help

[Bill Owens]

I just discovered what appears to be a PCMCIA slot on my Dell 1505.  There
is a little black thingy that is currently in the slot that pops out and
seems to have a couple of ridge like projects that are apparently guides for
different cards.  Other than showing my lack of knowledge of 'puters, can
anyone tell me anything about this slot?  No info in the manual nor any info
I can find on the Dell site.

Bill


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OT: Computer help

[mike.wilson]

Hi,
I know some people are using WinME.
Here is an excellent page of simply written, comprehensive information 
on maintaining the OS in as best condition as you can.

http://users.adelphia.net/~jgulley/me/index.html
mike
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