Re: reagan cortege
Wasn't me, it may have been Antonio who expressed that opinion. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: reagan cortege (snip) In fact, Anthony is the only person who seems to think the pictures are of Reagan. They aren't. They are of the funeral of a former Head of State. Since in the USA, heads of state are elected, then it's a politician's funeral, but -- if you can see the distinction -- he didn't get the state funeral because he was a politician, he got it because he was head of state. Furthermore, it was a News Event. If you're interested in the event, or in seeing the particular photographer's work, you check out the pictures. If you aren't, you don't. But this thread didn't start out with any commentary about politics, it was about a listmember's pictures of a rare and newsworthy event. ERN
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That Guy, I fail to be impressed by the antics of a script kiddy. Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 3:35 AM Subject: Re: reagan cortege Stop pretending to be me. DagT På 13. jun. 2004 kl. 17.37 skrev Dag T: You play with fire, you get burned. It's not like you didn't ask for it you damn fool idiot. Do you think you can just insult people without consequences??? YOu're a bigger idiot than anyone on this list if you think thats the case Anthony!!! Dag T På 13. jun. 2004 kl. 18.57 skrev Dag T: -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege This is very weird. My original message is not in the mail archives, and I never received it back. Did anyone receive it? The Man of a Thousand Email Addresses apparently did, and forged a response from Dag in a transparent and feeble attempt to get me offside with Dag, with whom I've never had a cross word. Shawn, you are no Machiavelli, it's pathetic that you even try. You sad git. no regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:33 AM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Heh, More stupid comments from his highness the king of stupid. (LOL) Dag T -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege In my mind's eye it's his knuckles that are dragging along the forest floor ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
Antonio not Anthony, WAS Re: reagan cortege
Anthony posted: Wasn't me, it may have been Antonio who expressed that opinion. Darn! Sorry! Yes, I meant Antonio. Wasn't thinking about you at all, I just misremembered his name. ERN
Re: Antonio not Anthony, WAS Re: reagan cortege
Sorry, what opinion are you refering to ERN? Antonio On 14 Jun 2004, at 15:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony posted: Wasn't me, it may have been Antonio who expressed that opinion. Darn! Sorry! Yes, I meant Antonio. Wasn't thinking about you at all, I just misremembered his name. ERN
Re: reagan cortege
This is very weird. My original message is not in the mail archives, and I never received it back. Did anyone receive it? The Man of a Thousand Email Addresses apparently did, and forged a response from Dag in a transparent and feeble attempt to get me offside with Dag, with whom I've never had a cross word. Shawn, you are no Machiavelli, it's pathetic that you even try. You sad git. no regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:33 AM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Heh, More stupid comments from his highness the king of stupid. (LOL) Dag T -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege In my mind's eye it's his knuckles that are dragging along the forest floor ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
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Anthony, I think several people have had problems with messages not appearing. Someone also reported a virus going round which may explain it. Antonio. On 13 Jun 2004, at 15:04, Anthony Farr wrote: This is very weird. My original message is not in the mail archives, and I never received it back. Did anyone receive it? The Man of a Thousand Email Addresses apparently did, and forged a response from Dag in a transparent and feeble attempt to get me offside with Dag, with whom I've never had a cross word. Shawn, you are no Machiavelli, it's pathetic that you even try. You sad git. no regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:33 AM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Heh, More stupid comments from his highness the king of stupid. (LOL) Dag T -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege In my mind's eye it's his knuckles that are dragging along the forest floor ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
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Stop pretending to be me. DagT På 13. jun. 2004 kl. 17.37 skrev Dag T: You play with fire, you get burned. It's not like you didn't ask for it you damn fool idiot. Do you think you can just insult people without consequences??? YOu're a bigger idiot than anyone on this list if you think thats the case Anthony!!! Dag T På 13. jun. 2004 kl. 18.57 skrev Dag T: -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege This is very weird. My original message is not in the mail archives, and I never received it back. Did anyone receive it? The Man of a Thousand Email Addresses apparently did, and forged a response from Dag in a transparent and feeble attempt to get me offside with Dag, with whom I've never had a cross word. Shawn, you are no Machiavelli, it's pathetic that you even try. You sad git. no regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:33 AM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Heh, More stupid comments from his highness the king of stupid. (LOL) Dag T -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege In my mind's eye it's his knuckles that are dragging along the forest floor ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
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I know this is an unmoderated list, but looking at the e-mail purported to be from Dag, it's obvious that it is not Dag's writing. At what point does the List God decide that it's time to bounce people? Impersonating others borders on criminal, IMHO, and in this case it seems not to be isolated behaviour. Doug? regards, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:35:08 +0200 Stop pretending to be me. DagT På 13. jun. 2004 kl. 17.37 skrev Dag T: You play with fire, you get burned. It's not like you didn't ask for it you damn fool idiot. Do you think you can just insult people without consequences??? YOu're a bigger idiot than anyone on this list if you think thats the case Anthony!!! Dag T På 13. jun. 2004 kl. 18.57 skrev Dag T: -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege This is very weird. My original message is not in the mail archives, and I never received it back. Did anyone receive it? The Man of a Thousand Email Addresses apparently did, and forged a response from Dag in a transparent and feeble attempt to get me offside with Dag, with whom I've never had a cross word. Shawn, you are no Machiavelli, it's pathetic that you even try. You sad git. no regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:33 AM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Heh, More stupid comments from his highness the king of stupid. (LOL) Dag T -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege In my mind's eye it's his knuckles that are dragging along the forest floor ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: reagan cortege
Yet another example of how wisdom is usually not learned in school Norm -Original Message- From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 10, 2004 11:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege
Re: reagan cortege
All good points, Eleanor, A month or two ago, someone (was it Dag?) posted a pic or two of the royal wedding in Norway. No one said 'boo. In fact, most seemed to think they were wonderful (which they were, from a photographic viewpoint, and from the viewpoint of documenting a newsworthy event). Seems to me that the Reagan funeral is about the same thing, only more. It's a newsworthy event. It was very well photographed by tom, without any political commentary or implication. It was more than appropriate for him to post them. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, Anthony is the only person who seems to think the pictures are of Reagan. They aren't. They are of the funeral of a former Head of State. Since in the USA, heads of state are elected, then it's a politician's funeral, but -- if you can see the distinction -- he didn't get the state funeral because he was a politician, he got it because he was head of state. Furthermore, it was a News Event. If you're interested in the event, or in seeing the particular photographer's work, you check out the pictures. If you aren't, you don't. But this thread didn't start out with any commentary about politics, it was about a listmember's pictures of a rare and newsworthy event. ERN _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Well, it may have been stupid, but it made him angry enough to steal the email address. Sorry :-) DagT På 12. jun. 2004 kl. 18.32 skrev Anthony Farr: Hey, you can insult a guy, but that was just idiotic, sorry man. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: Dag T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege AHAHAHAHAHA That is funny!!! Who's it about?? AHAHAH ITS EVEN FUNNIER!!! (This is a sarcastic joke because you think you need a professional psychologist to understand you.) DagT På 12. jun. 2004 kl. 18.17 skrev Shawn K.: AHAHAHAHAHA That is funny!!! Who's it about?? ME ??? AHAHAH ITS EVEN FUNNIER!!! (This is a sarcastic joke for those of you prone to amateur psychological rants) -Shawn -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege LOL regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: reagan cortege (snip) there should be a comma between your face and your asshole. As written, it means you have an asshole on your face.
RE: reagan cortege
More stupid comments from his highness the king of stupid. (LOL) Dag T Blimey, it takes a fair bit to rattle a Norwegian's cage! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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På 12. jun. 2004 kl. 23.18 skrev Cotty: More stupid comments from his highness the king of stupid. (LOL) Dag T Blimey, it takes a fair bit to rattle a Norwegian's cage! Cheers, Cotty Especially since this is one of Shawns fake emails. :-) DagT
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Nobody is criticising the right to post pics - the criticism seems to be of the person - Regan - the pics are of. And then the usual suspects then criticise the critics for having an opimion they dont share. A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 05:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I feel it's perfectly appropriate for some mourning of a former president. At least by those that admired him. I expect the same thing will happen when Clinton dies. There will be detractors then as well, while others will assess his record saying he was great. In fact, Anthony is the only person who seems to think the pictures are of Reagan. They aren't. They are of the funeral of a former Head of State. Since in the USA, heads of state are elected, then it's a politician's funeral, but -- if you can see the distinction -- he didn't get the state funeral because he was a politician, he got it because he was head of state. Furthermore, it was a News Event. If you're interested in the event, or in seeing the particular photographer's work, you check out the pictures. If you aren't, you don't. But this thread didn't start out with any commentary about politics, it was about a listmember's pictures of a rare and newsworthy event. ERN
RE: reagan cortege
You're the one who hijacked my email to unsubscribe me you twit. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Wow, smart boy managed to hijack my email address somehow. Does this mean I have to killfile myself as well? Going to this much effort over an email list is certainly a sign of someone who is kinda unstable. Regards the real William Robb - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Be careful what you wish for. Or in this case, intend to provoke. When I see right wingers promoting their figure heads, fire shoots from my eyes... (It has a particularly bad effect with drapes, or in you all's case, drips.) Sorry, but I figure this dead horse won't mind another couple of wallops. -Shawn
RE: reagan cortege
Whenever I was losing a fight, say to 3 or more guys, I always ended up hightailing it before I got seriously hurt actually. Yes, I have run from fights I probably couldn't win... I once was walking down the street on Saint Patty's, fairly intoxicated, but not falling down drunk, and the unique thing is about this situation, in this town, Savannah, Saint Patty is chaos. Anyhow, 2 guys sitting on top of their SUV call me a name or something and I tell him to get stuffed. So they both jump down and say they want to fight. And me being me, I figure, what the hell, you know, lets do it. So I walk up to the first guy and he kind of runs away then the other comes at me and he belts me right across the face, and some people watching, gasp and say holy shit etc. But being a dumbshit, he stands there and watches to see what his punch did, I turn to him and say, You hit like a woman, really loud too, so everybody can hear it. Then I walk towards him and he pretends to have a knife, so in the interest of not getting stabbed I hightail it out of there. The moral is, I'm dumb enough to fight, but not to get maimed. -Shawn -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - Original Message - From: Treena Subject: Re: reagan cortege Though I think P. Stenquist actually wrote As written, it means you have an asshole on your face. Thats what comes from losing too many fights and being too stupid to not get your nose knocked into your nasal cavity. I am sure that as written, it's a pretty accurate description. WW
RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Shawn K. wrote: PLONK (whatever the hell that means) http://www.clueless.com/jargon3.0.0/plonk.html anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
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Hi, Friday, June 11, 2004, 3:47:42 AM, Shawn wrote: Yeah Bob, you're just so witty and smart, because being witty equals being smart, never mind all those things like SAT scores, and IQ scores, and what have you I'm honestly not friendly, nor do I really like people, they largely annoy me, I'm super competitive, I always want to win, and it miffs me when its impossible to win. Like now, now it's impossible to win, it's impossible to save face, but I must run this broken train through wall after wall until every single one of you simply give up out of sheer fatigue. Its just the way I am. Sorry, but my will to achieve the upper hand is simply enormous in these types of situations. I probably should have pursued a degree in dictatorships, or gone to Grad school as a Fascist overlord in training. But you know, my school just didn't offer such forward thinking fields of study. Go figure. I'll bet you've got really big bollocks too! http://www.discoverchimpanzees.org/behaviors/top.php?dir=Aggressiontopic=Charging_Display -- Cheers, Bob
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In that case plonk to you both. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Shawn K. wrote: PLONK (whatever the hell that means) http://www.clueless.com/jargon3.0.0/plonk.html anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap
Oh, here's a word for you, its only used by me and the chipmunks, chatter, chatter its a form of public ridicule, so devious, so maligned, that you are heretofore cast into the lowest echelons of society simply by its invocation!! (Making the point that just because you can make up stupid words doesn't make them mean anything) -Shawn -Original Message- From: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Shawn K. wrote: PLONK (whatever the hell that means) http://www.clueless.com/jargon3.0.0/plonk.html anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm shows a soldier in a bearskin hat. Do American regiments wear these? We are in the middle of an election here. The beaver head is the guy our Prime Minister sent to represent Canada. There are days I am embarassed to be Canadian. Playing politics with a state funeral really gauls me. William Robb I don't know how that's playing politics as you put it. It is one country showing respect at the funeral of another country's statesman. A proper and acceptable conduct. It wasn't just a state funeral, as you call it, it was a showing of honor toward the President of a neighboring state... and I think it was a nice gesture. Why do you find it embarrassing? keith whaley
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan PS. Hilarious fact: Regarding the difficulties encountered while searching for a synthetic alternative to bearskin, They were also subject to static electricity, which was rather embarrassing when they passed under (electricity) pylons. http://www.news-star.com/stories/081497/world2.html - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I thought Tom's pictures were interesting and important regardless of anything political - all the funeral proceedings have had at least some exposure in the UK media. I know there are some knowlegeable people on this list (ahem), so this picture of Tom's here: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm shows a soldier in a bearskin hat. Do American regiments wear these? Which ones, does anyone know? I thought they were a British-only phenomenon? (cue cliche shot of London No356, Guardsman standing outside Buck Palace). Chris
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On 11/6/04, TREENA, discombobulated, offered: And for the record, just because you describe yourself in an e-mail doesn't mean that's what you really are. I could tell you I'm 21 and I look like Britney Spears but it wouldn't make it true. but are you and do you? ...sorry ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
- Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I don't know how that's playing politics as you put it. It is one country showing respect at the funeral of another country's statesman. A proper and acceptable conduct. It wasn't just a state funeral, as you call it, it was a showing of honor toward the President of a neighboring state... and I think it was a nice gesture. Why do you find it embarrassing? Because my God damned Prime Minister is down there on a G-8 summit meeting or some such, and can't be bothered with paying respects to our neighbour's past leader. The whole thing is to be politics. The press here thinks that if Martin shows respect to Reagan, he is cozying up to the Americans, which could be political suicide during an election campaign. The jack ass is playing politics with what should be a cut and dried duty of a leader. Politics should not be involved in the non political aspects of the duties of leadership. I mean, how dare Reagan have the temerity to die during a anadian election William Robb
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Much obliged! Ryan - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith
RE: reagan cortege
Add another bozoid to the Twit List -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege What about the endless masturbation over the GFM? Not photos and not Pentax discussion. At the end of the day politics is just opinions. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 05:14, Bob Blakely wrote: Pics is one thing. That's what this list is about. Political pontification via keyboard is not photography and is quite another. Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob, perhaps you should ask the photographer to remove the patriotic political pics too in your usual diplomatic manner. Just to be fair. On 10 Jun 2004, at 23:56, Bob Blakely wrote: Get your political shit of the list, asshole. From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [political shit]
Re: reagan cortege
Cotty wrote: On 11/6/04, TREENA, discombobulated, offered: And for the record, just because you describe yourself in an e-mail doesn't mean that's what you really are. I could tell you I'm 21 and I look like Britney Spears but it wouldn't make it true. but are you and do you? ...sorry ;-) I can only add, Why would you WANT to? g keith whaley Cheers, Cotty
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Now I understand more completely, William... Thanks for the education! Weird stuff, politics... keith William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I don't know how that's playing politics as you put it. It is one country showing respect at the funeral of another country's statesman. A proper and acceptable conduct. It wasn't just a state funeral, as you call it, it was a showing of honor toward the President of a neighboring state... and I think it was a nice gesture. Why do you find it embarrassing? Because my God damned Prime Minister is down there on a G-8 summit meeting or some such, and can't be bothered with paying respects to our neighbour's past leader. The whole thing is to be politics. The press here thinks that if Martin shows respect to Reagan, he is cozying up to the Americans, which could be political suicide during an election campaign. The jack ass is playing politics with what should be a cut and dried duty of a leader. Politics should not be involved in the non political aspects of the duties of leadership. I mean, how dare Reagan have the temerity to die during a anadian election William Robb
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Most of us who couldn't go loved hearing about GFM . Very few want to listen to your endless rants about subjects unrelated to photography. Antonio Aparicio wrote: What about the endless masturbation over the GFM? Not photos and not Pentax discussion. At the end of the day politics is just opinions.
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I loved hearing about them too - although none had anything whatsoever to do with photography by the way. You quote me out of context - my point was that there are many OT topics on this list and it seems unfair that some are criticised wheras others are not. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 15:04, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Most of us who couldn't go loved hearing about GFM . Very few want to listen to your endless rants about subjects unrelated to photography. Antonio Aparicio wrote: What about the endless masturbation over the GFM? Not photos and not Pentax discussion. At the end of the day politics is just opinions.
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Ah so now you're confusing Iran and Iraq. Well here's a news flash. Iran was ruled by fundamentalist Moslems and populated primarily by Persians. Iraq by was ruled by fascist secularists and populated mainly by Arabs. (Gee, I guess this is politically incorrect so I want to say right now that I mean no disrespect to either Arabs or Persians, nor wish to imply that either group prefers the Government type with which these particular Arabs and Persians were associated). Notice I'm not commenting on any thing else. Only the facts not the suppositions. Don't bother to respond to this message you've been killfiled. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Iran-Contra scandal anyone? Col. oliver North? Lies, deciet and illegal wars? A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 06:12, Peter J. Alling wrote: No, the French gave him the money, they bought his Oil on very favorable terms and the sold him Exocet missiles and aircraft, which he used to blow up an American Destroyer. There's more than enough blame to go around in power politics. Now please shut the hell up. Shawn K. wrote: No we gave him the money. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Robert Leigh Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Oh really, we sold Saddam the Soviet T-72 tanks, MiGs, and SAMS??? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
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Peter, Reagan was involved in affairs both in Iran and Iraq fyi. Interesting way of having a discussion by the way - spurt out your opinions then block the replies form the people you are talking too. Sounds like YOU dont want to hear the truth. Regan was not all good. In fact he had quite a lot of bad. This killfile business cracks me up though. Its like because it contains the word kill you feel it is some kind of weapon, where is it is more akin blocking your ears. Not really killing anything other than you own ability to hear what is going on. Doesnt harm anyone except you. You sensitive old sod. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 15:47, Peter J. Alling wrote: Ah so now you're confusing Iran and Iraq. Well here's a news flash. Iran was ruled by fundamentalist Moslems and populated primarily by Persians. Iraq by was ruled by fascist secularists and populated mainly by Arabs. (Gee, I guess this is politically incorrect so I want to say right now that I mean no disrespect to either Arabs or Persians, nor wish to imply that either group prefers the Government type with which these particular Arabs and Persians were associated). Notice I'm not commenting on any thing else. Only the facts not the suppositions. Don't bother to respond to this message you've been killfiled. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Iran-Contra scandal anyone? Col. oliver North? Lies, deciet and illegal wars? A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 06:12, Peter J. Alling wrote: No, the French gave him the money, they bought his Oil on very favorable terms and the sold him Exocet missiles and aircraft, which he used to blow up an American Destroyer. There's more than enough blame to go around in power politics. Now please shut the hell up. Shawn K. wrote: No we gave him the money. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Robert Leigh Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Oh really, we sold Saddam the Soviet T-72 tanks, MiGs, and SAMS??? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
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And here I thought GFM had everything to do with photography and especially Pentax... the ultimate list member get together ? I for one have been pretty entertained when reading about it (here in Finland). Maybe I will have the opportunity to join one year. Please understand I am not writing this to any single person on our usually very friendly mailing list. Everyone should at least think about this for an odd second before throwing himself/herself into a mindless flame-battle. I am a ham (amateur radio) and we have strict rules of never discussing politics or religion on the air. This has been the rule for tens of years and it works. I wish the people on this list could also go along these lines and remember there are people from dozens of different nationalities on this worldwide list. If every one of them will start writing and yelling their opinions we can say goodbye to on topic discussion for good. Everyone is entitled to their own opition but please could you discuss politics and religion on the more appropriate places (like private e-mail or a dedicated mailing list). If you must discuss it in here, please do it in a civilized way and not act like a bunch of kids who all have had their lollipops stolen 5 seconds ago... And finally, I am sorry if I have upset anyone by saying these things. Thanks for listening and I hope you all have a good weekend and many photo opportunities, Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753 www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi -Original Message- I loved hearing about them too - although none had anything whatsoever to do with photography by the way. Antonio
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You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan PS. Hilarious fact: Regarding the difficulties encountered while searching for a synthetic alternative to bearskin, They were also subject to static electricity, which was rather embarrassing when they passed under (electricity) pylons. http://www.news-star.com/stories/081497/world2.html - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I thought Tom's pictures were interesting and important regardless of anything political - all the funeral proceedings have had at least some exposure in the UK media. I know there are some knowlegeable people on this list (ahem), so this picture of Tom's here: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm shows a soldier in a bearskin hat. Do American regiments wear these? Which ones, does anyone know? I thought they were a British-only phenomenon? (cue cliche shot of London No356, Guardsman standing outside Buck Palace). Chris
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Antti, the GFM may have been a photo meet, but not many of the posts here had anything to do with photography or pentax. As to the rest of your comments I think that the list should not censor peoples reactions to photos that are posted for feedback. In this instance the photos were of a politician, a controversial one, and the comments have reflected that. If someone posts a religious picture then you will no doubt get reaction to that too. Remeber, the photographer is never outside of what he/she photographs., A witnness is part of the scene. And good photos like Toms evoke reactions. I do agree with your comments about the languaged being used by a number of the posters though, particularly Bob S and William Robb, although they are not alone. There is no need for it. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:11, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: And here I thought GFM had everything to do with photography and especially Pentax... the ultimate list member get together ? I for one have been pretty entertained when reading about it (here in Finland). Maybe I will have the opportunity to join one year. Please understand I am not writing this to any single person on our usually very friendly mailing list. Everyone should at least think about this for an odd second before throwing himself/herself into a mindless flame-battle. I am a ham (amateur radio) and we have strict rules of never discussing politics or religion on the air. This has been the rule for tens of years and it works. I wish the people on this list could also go along these lines and remember there are people from dozens of different nationalities on this worldwide list. If every one of them will start writing and yelling their opinions we can say goodbye to on topic discussion for good. Everyone is entitled to their own opition but please could you discuss politics and religion on the more appropriate places (like private e-mail or a dedicated mailing list). If you must discuss it in here, please do it in a civilized way and not act like a bunch of kids who all have had their lollipops stolen 5 seconds ago... And finally, I am sorry if I have upset anyone by saying these things. Thanks for listening and I hope you all have a good weekend and many photo opportunities, Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753 www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi -Original Message- I loved hearing about them too - although none had anything whatsoever to do with photography by the way. Antonio
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In a message dated 6/11/2004 7:18:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv --- Very nice photos, tv! I especially like all the leg shots and the kid shots. You really captured the event. Marnie aka Doe
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gonz, Talk to the flamers, not me. When people start making claims about Reagan being a good president, etc. etc. then it is only normal that those who disagree with that statement will voice their opinions too. For what its worth, I was saddened to hear of his death too, even though I didnt agree with his policies. No, this flame war was started by an individual that had to add political flame-baiting to simple pictures of an event. You know, it is possible to either refrain from political commentary, or keep the commentary to the photos. As I mentioned, this was not a hated dictator that died. Controversial maybe, but not to the level that should provoke the unecessary rant that it did. Political flame-baiting does not belong in a forum such as this, it merely provokes long angry threads such as this one, and have no positive outcomes that I know of. On the subject of the GFM (supposedly named due to the age of the atendees? [joke]), I was/am fine with the GFM chatter, even if it didnt have anything to do with Pentax, which it didnt. Was just lots of back scratching. Maybee the event did but the chatter on this board didnt. In any event I dont think the atendees have any special powers or priveledges on this list regardless of how big they are, if that is what you are suggesting. Or do they? Well, one of them sets up/hosts the PUG website, another maintains this very list. So I guess at least one of them has the special power to take you (or me) off this list. ;) But I wasn't making any reference to their importance or special powers/priveledges. I merely said that they are a big part of the list, i.e. they contribute alot, in photographic wisdom, wit, helping newbies, etc. There are many other big contributors to this list that were not able to attend GFM. What is going on with you anyway? You seem to bitch about topics not being very related to Pentax, yet you embroil yourself in many flame-war topics such as the stupid Windows OS war you got so worked up about, now this. If you are so into Pentax, then please post some on topic threads and redeem what little you have left of yourself in this mail list. From what I hear, many people have automatically deleted your postings already, that didn't have to happen. BTW, how old are you anyway? I have a theory that age has something to do with the probability of being at odds with members of this mail list. Many of the members here are older, and some of the contributors that get embroiled in these flame wars seem to be socially awkward, possibly due to age/immaturity? There are exceptions of course, I know of a few contributors here that although young, have a knack for social interaction and get along fine here. The internet/email/lists seems to make it easy to get to the point of I'm 7'1, 350 pounds and I could kick your butt, asshole, whereas in real face-to-face settings people in general would require alot more to get to that level. A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:45, Gonz wrote: Reagan was a President. He is dead. He was not a dictator, so his death should not provoke that level of response. The country is mourning his death, much as it did when Kennedy and Johnson died, who were of opposite political parties. These pictures were not of Reagan in a political rally or the Republican Convention, which I agree could provoke a political flame war. I was saddened and mourned for the death of all three presidents that I mentioned, so that makes me a right wing bigot as one poster has declared just because myself and others asked him to keep political discussion and vitriol out of this list? In addition, many of us who did not attend GFM and really wanted to go, wanted to hear as much as possible about the get together, it being one of the largest Pentax afficionado gatherings in recent history. Just because they are not talking about photography and cameras does not make it inappropriate for the Pentax discussion mailing list. They ARE a big part of the PENTAX discussion list, in case you haven't noticed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antti, the GFM may have been a photo meet, but not many of the posts here had anything to do with photography or pentax. As to the rest of your comments I think that the list should not censor peoples reactions to photos that are posted for feedback. In this instance the photos were of a politician, a controversial one, and the comments have reflected that. If someone posts a religious picture then you will no doubt get reaction to that too. Remeber, the photographer is never outside of what he/she photographs., A witnness is part of the scene. And good photos like Toms evoke reactions. I do agree with your comments about the languaged being used by a number of the posters though, particularly Bob S and William Robb, although they are not alone. There is no need for it. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:11,
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Semper fi! He is indeed a USMC drum major. tom wrote: You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt it, probably not and I don't think so. I don't know, I have my suspicions, but you may be right. keith Gonz wrote: TMP wrote: well, i'm a woman, and i can't say you are doing much for me right now... tan. Tan, this Shawn person actually is a woman. With a middle name like Taimana, it has to be woman right? I mean isn't Sean the male version of this name, not Shawn, which like Dawn, is feminine? [...]
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Please tell us the tail. . . .er, tale. Stephen Moore wrote: A couple of thinlots right up there among the best in capturing the little details that limn the humanity of the scene. (I've got a funny story about the caparisoned horse that appeared in the JFK funeral, but that's for another time, preferably in the company of copious quantities of beer.)
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While we're on the subject...you can see this guy - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-175432-6051.htm Is a navy guy who passed out. 2 Navy guys in front of me passed out while standiing at attention waiting for the caisson. Apparently people were passing out left and right. Well, some secret service people started handing out water - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-181626-6077.htm If you looked up and down the route you could see Air Force and Navy guys drinking it up, but the marines wouldn't even look at him, and none of them passed out. They got a few cheers when they matched off. tv -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Semper fi! He is indeed a USMC drum major. tom wrote: You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan
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Gonz, flame war? I think you are going a bit over the top mate. I have said nothing inflamatory, just my opinions fairly conservatively put. You may not agree with them, that is your choice, but to taint them as some lesser form of vermin seems a bit extreme. I dont like a lot of what you have to say either, but would rather express my opinions and arguments than try and silence you, like you seem to try to silence others. Live and let live. Its just all talk. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 17:51, Gonz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gonz, Talk to the flamers, not me. When people start making claims about Reagan being a good president, etc. etc. then it is only normal that those who disagree with that statement will voice their opinions too. For what its worth, I was saddened to hear of his death too, even though I didnt agree with his policies. No, this flame war was started by an individual that had to add political flame-baiting to simple pictures of an event. You know, it is possible to either refrain from political commentary, or keep the commentary to the photos. As I mentioned, this was not a hated dictator that died. Controversial maybe, but not to the level that should provoke the unecessary rant that it did. Political flame-baiting does not belong in a forum such as this, it merely provokes long angry threads such as this one, and have no positive outcomes that I know of. On the subject of the GFM (supposedly named due to the age of the atendees? [joke]), I was/am fine with the GFM chatter, even if it didnt have anything to do with Pentax, which it didnt. Was just lots of back scratching. Maybee the event did but the chatter on this board didnt. In any event I dont think the atendees have any special powers or priveledges on this list regardless of how big they are, if that is what you are suggesting. Or do they? Well, one of them sets up/hosts the PUG website, another maintains this very list. So I guess at least one of them has the special power to take you (or me) off this list. ;) But I wasn't making any reference to their importance or special powers/priveledges. I merely said that they are a big part of the list, i.e. they contribute alot, in photographic wisdom, wit, helping newbies, etc. There are many other big contributors to this list that were not able to attend GFM. What is going on with you anyway? You seem to bitch about topics not being very related to Pentax, yet you embroil yourself in many flame-war topics such as the stupid Windows OS war you got so worked up about, now this. If you are so into Pentax, then please post some on topic threads and redeem what little you have left of yourself in this mail list. From what I hear, many people have automatically deleted your postings already, that didn't have to happen. BTW, how old are you anyway? I have a theory that age has something to do with the probability of being at odds with members of this mail list. Many of the members here are older, and some of the contributors that get embroiled in these flame wars seem to be socially awkward, possibly due to age/immaturity? There are exceptions of course, I know of a few contributors here that although young, have a knack for social interaction and get along fine here. The internet/email/lists seems to make it easy to get to the point of I'm 7'1, 350 pounds and I could kick your butt, asshole, whereas in real face-to-face settings people in general would require alot more to get to that level. A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:45, Gonz wrote: Reagan was a President. He is dead. He was not a dictator, so his death should not provoke that level of response. The country is mourning his death, much as it did when Kennedy and Johnson died, who were of opposite political parties. These pictures were not of Reagan in a political rally or the Republican Convention, which I agree could provoke a political flame war. I was saddened and mourned for the death of all three presidents that I mentioned, so that makes me a right wing bigot as one poster has declared just because myself and others asked him to keep political discussion and vitriol out of this list? In addition, many of us who did not attend GFM and really wanted to go, wanted to hear as much as possible about the get together, it being one of the largest Pentax afficionado gatherings in recent history. Just because they are not talking about photography and cameras does not make it inappropriate for the Pentax discussion mailing list. They ARE a big part of the PENTAX discussion list, in case you haven't noticed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antti, the GFM may have been a photo meet, but not many of the posts here had anything to do with photography or pentax. As to the rest of your comments I think that the list should not censor peoples reactions to photos that are posted for feedback. In this instance the photos were of a politician, a
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Hi, Friday, June 11, 2004, 7:04:46 AM, Shawn wrote: I've seen you Bob, you're ugly, are you married, that would be a long shot, proof that where there's one ugly dumbfuck, there's another ugly dumbfuck that loves him... I guess you have the better of me Shawn. Whereas you're handsome and attractive to women, I'm ugly and repel them. Whereas you're tough and strong and get into drunken fights at the drop of a hat, I don't get drunk much and I haven't been in a fight for about 20 years. Whereas you admittedly hate people and don't give a shit, I kind of like people and hope to get on with them. Whereas you're proud to be an aggressive bully, I'm kind of laid back and try to defend people against bullies - in fact, that's the only reason I've ever been in a fight at all. You could probably beat me up really easily because I'm overweight and unfit as well as ugly. Hell, you're even a couple of inches taller than I am, apparently. I guess that all makes you a better person, and more of a man. Congratulations - it must make you feel really good. You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
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Hi, PS. Hilarious fact: Regarding the difficulties encountered while searching for a synthetic alternative to bearskin, They were also subject to static electricity, which was rather embarrassing when they passed under (electricity) pylons. http://www.news-star.com/stories/081497/world2.html Apparently the British Army aren't allowed to kill bears any more for their hats, and have to use roadkill. -- Cheers, Bob
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Bob, there is this old saying, An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. I'm pretty much sick of this insult fest, so I'm going to put an end to it now by not returning the favor. I've had a few glasses of wine interspersed over the past two years, so I'm not a drunk as you imply, I've never been in a fight in a bar. And I've never started the fight, never. I just don't take shit, and people like to give me shit so there you have it. There was a point in my life where I realized some people only understand one thing, getting punched upside the head... I once got attacked by a group of black kids when I was in college because I dared to walk on the sidewalk where they were standing... Maybe I should show them respect and cross the street, you tell me, what should I have done? The funny thing is, I didn't want to cross the street, because I thought I'm going to show them how we can share the sidewalk, me being white and all... You know, some white-bred people will run at the site of a black man, I just wanted to give them the dignity of a normal human passing on the sidewalk. But I guess that was just an offence to them, me thinking we were equal. Funny how those things flip-flop isn't it?? The point is everyone has their own twisted view of the world man, everyone is twisted in some way. As for your discussion on apes, we are all apes, even Einstein was an unmitigated primitive ape-man who fucked and married his first cousin. Not many people are aware of what a disgusting private life he led. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Hi, Friday, June 11, 2004, 7:04:46 AM, Shawn wrote: I've seen you Bob, you're ugly, are you married, that would be a long shot, proof that where there's one ugly dumbfuck, there's another ugly dumbfuck that loves him... I guess you have the better of me Shawn. Whereas you're handsome and attractive to women, I'm ugly and repel them. Whereas you're tough and strong and get into drunken fights at the drop of a hat, I don't get drunk much and I haven't been in a fight for about 20 years. Whereas you admittedly hate people and don't give a shit, I kind of like people and hope to get on with them. Whereas you're proud to be an aggressive bully, I'm kind of laid back and try to defend people against bullies - in fact, that's the only reason I've ever been in a fight at all. You could probably beat me up really easily because I'm overweight and unfit as well as ugly. Hell, you're even a couple of inches taller than I am, apparently. I guess that all makes you a better person, and more of a man. Congratulations - it must make you feel really good. You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
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My g... how pathetic. It reminds me of some really bad B-movie. This isn´t barbaric. The barbarians had a civilization, but you don´t. DagT På 11. jun. 2004 kl. 03.28 skrev Shawn K.: You'd break your leg kicking my hard ass tough guy. I've fought tougher than you before, and would welcome a good scuffle, I always did feel good after a fight, mainly because I won, and because it's in my blood to fight. It's notable that you say all that you said like you're just the toughest mofo on earth, then you go and ignore me. Pretty weak William Robb. My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... And before you go commenting on what a barbarian I am, remember that I have a computer degree, a bachelors for that matter, so even us barbarians can learn to use fancy shmancy computers. -Shawn
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Hi DagT Thanks for the comments. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Dag T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege My g... how pathetic. It reminds me of some really bad B-movie. This isn´t barbaric. The barbarians had a civilization, but you don´t. DagT
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not hearing your opinion isn't going to hurt him arnie - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: reagan cortege Peter, Reagan was involved in affairs both in Iran and Iraq fyi. Interesting way of having a discussion by the way - spurt out your opinions then block the replies form the people you are talking too. Sounds like YOU dont want to hear the truth. Regan was not all good. In fact he had quite a lot of bad. This killfile business cracks me up though. Its like because it contains the word kill you feel it is some kind of weapon, where is it is more akin blocking your ears. Not really killing anything other than you own ability to hear what is going on. Doesnt harm anyone except you. You sensitive old sod. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 15:47, Peter J. Alling wrote: Ah so now you're confusing Iran and Iraq. Well here's a news flash. Iran was ruled by fundamentalist Moslems and populated primarily by Persians. Iraq by was ruled by fascist secularists and populated mainly by Arabs. (Gee, I guess this is politically incorrect so I want to say right now that I mean no disrespect to either Arabs or Persians, nor wish to imply that either group prefers the Government type with which these particular Arabs and Persians were associated). Notice I'm not commenting on any thing else. Only the facts not the suppositions. Don't bother to respond to this message you've been killfiled. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Iran-Contra scandal anyone? Col. oliver North? Lies, deciet and illegal wars? A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 06:12, Peter J. Alling wrote: No, the French gave him the money, they bought his Oil on very favorable terms and the sold him Exocet missiles and aircraft, which he used to blow up an American Destroyer. There's more than enough blame to go around in power politics. Now please shut the hell up. Shawn K. wrote: No we gave him the money. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Robert Leigh Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Oh really, we sold Saddam the Soviet T-72 tanks, MiGs, and SAMS??? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
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Hi, graywolf wrote: I only killfile people who are consistently abusive to others on the list. That has been mercifully few, but there seems to be something in the air this spring. The saps are rising? m
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Shawn, You're sick. Seek help. Seriously. I'm not kidding. Your behaviour on the list of late is not normal. You may be a danger to yourself or others. I'm really not joking. I hope you take my advice, for your sake, and the sake of those around you. This will be my only post on this matter, no matter if you spew vitriole my way or not. I've said my piece, now I'll go away. best regards for a speedy recovery, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:47:42 -0400 Yeah Bob, you're just so witty and smart, because being witty equals being smart, never mind all those things like SAT scores, and IQ scores, and what have you I'm honestly not friendly, nor do I really like people, they largely annoy me, I'm super competitive, I always want to win, and it miffs me when its impossible to win. Like now, now it's impossible to win, it's impossible to save face, but I must run this broken train through wall after wall until every single one of you simply give up out of sheer fatigue. Its just the way I am. Sorry, but my will to achieve the upper hand is simply enormous in these types of situations. I probably should have pursued a degree in dictatorships, or gone to Grad school as a Fascist overlord in training. But you know, my school just didn't offer such forward thinking fields of study. Go figure. -Shawn _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Nice pictures though, all of them are good, a few are great, I think my favorite is the one with the girl by the fence looking back at you, although I prefer the composition of the one where she's looking out at the procession. -Shawn -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:16 AM To: pdml Subject: reagan cortege So Braswell emails me last night and asks what the deal with the Reagan funeral is. Like I'd know. Anyway, he shows up here at 3 today and we head down to get what we can get - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/index.htm Yeah, I took Charles Braswell to a sushi restaurant. tv
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On Jun 10, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Shawn K. wrote: Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Isn't it tedious how someone always has to inject there personal politics into a thread about images?
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Paul, I dont think there is such thing as an apolitical image of a politician, particularly one as high profile and as contra-versial as RR. Antonio On 10 Jun 2004, at 20:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jun 10, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Shawn K. wrote: Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Isn't it tedious how someone always has to inject there personal politics into a thread about images?
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't it tedious how someone always has to inject there personal politics into a thread about images? But it makes it so much easier to identify them for the kill file. : ) Mark
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-Original Message- From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. I was just there to take some pics and see something interesting. Nice pictures though, all of them are good, a few are great, I think my favorite is the one with the girl by the fence looking back at you, although I prefer the composition of the one where she's looking out at the procession. Thanks. tv
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What's really tedious is Reagan's speeches!! -Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege On Jun 10, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Shawn K. wrote: Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Isn't it tedious how someone always has to inject there personal politics into a thread about images?
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Same to ya!!! -Shawn -Original Message- From: Mark Dalal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't it tedious how someone always has to inject there personal politics into a thread about images? But it makes it so much easier to identify them for the kill file. : ) Mark
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Shawn, You deserve a seriously vicious dope-slap. Nobody gives a rat's ass about your opinion of President Reagan or your guess as to everybody else's EXCEPT the people who care enough about him to start a stupid flame war over your blatantly political comment. Your photo comments are appreciated but please, for the love of mike, don't bring up politics. Cory - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Nice pictures though, all of them are good, a few are great, I think my favorite is the one with the girl by the fence looking back at you, although I prefer the composition of the one where she's looking out at the procession. -Shawn -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:16 AM To: pdml Subject: reagan cortege So Braswell emails me last night and asks what the deal with the Reagan funeral is. Like I'd know. Anyway, he shows up here at 3 today and we head down to get what we can get - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/index.htm Yeah, I took Charles Braswell to a sushi restaurant. tv --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/9/2004
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And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
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don't be so ridiculous. Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I'm no Reagan fan, but I liked Tom's photos a lot, and I can appreciate them regardless of who is being honored. Amita
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-Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep, you should have. Pictures of politicians normally evoke political comentary, both positive and negative. Mind you pics of flowers to too so I am not sure you would be safe with them either. Actually, come to think of it, you will normally get a range of opinion no matter what the image you post. But try explaining that to the opinion police . You seem to be a member, why don't you tell me the proper forms to fill out? I was speaking slightly tongue in cheek. I'll take whatever pictures I like, and I'll post them here if they don't suck. BTW, I'd like you to explain how these are particularly patriotic. Pretty much every shot that could be construed as heroic is balanced by one that could be considered mundane or even irreverent. Half the shots are of people smiling, laughing or talking on the phone. Compare that to the typical Kennedy shot. I really had no agenda except to take some shots of something that doesn't happen very often and is a huge spectacle. tv
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hm, pure class... tv took some really good photos, he showed them to the list. end of story. at no time did he mention anything political. It was purely for entertainment value, as the procession etc was such big news in DC. (I know, I was there at the time remember)... get over yourself shawn. tan. (who managed to say what she needed to without swearing or name calling, geddit). -Original Message- From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 7:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap Ill take the opportunity to slander the name of the biggest idiot in the history of American politics any time I please! You guys are pretentious finicky lot, you can kiss my ass, Ill say whatever the hell I please whether its political or otherwise. -Shawn -Original Message- From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap Shawn, You deserve a seriously vicious dope-slap. Nobody gives a rat's ass about your opinion of President Reagan or your guess as to everybody else's EXCEPT the people who care enough about him to start a stupid flame war over your blatantly political comment. Your photo comments are appreciated but please, for the love of mike, don't bring up politics. Cory - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Nice pictures though, all of them are good, a few are great, I think my favorite is the one with the girl by the fence looking back at you, although I prefer the composition of the one where she's looking out at the procession. -Shawn -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:16 AM To: pdml Subject: reagan cortege So Braswell emails me last night and asks what the deal with the Reagan funeral is. Like I'd know. Anyway, he shows up here at 3 today and we head down to get what we can get - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/index.htm Yeah, I took Charles Braswell to a sushi restaurant. tv --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/9/2004
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I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image. Now there I'd disagree with you. I've seen wider shots which give more of the total atmosphere; Tom's is too tight a shot for my preferences.
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On 11 Jun 2004 at 0:29, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Oh come on, grow up, Americans voted him in, they are just seeing him out the way that they do people who held his level of governance. Toms pics were representative of what he saw nothing more. I saw the PBS Jim Lehrer special just before I saw Toms pics and I got much more out of his coverage. I'm glad he had the opportunity to be there so he could share it with us. Thanks Tom. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Tom, you did nothing wrong. This is just good photojournalism. People shouldn't put their own political commentary onto something that is apolitical. Just because the funeral procession was for a political figure does not make it a political event. He was the leader of our country, but he was also a citizen. Its a sad day when people inject venemous rhetoric, it shows incredible immaturity. Keep 'em coming. rg tom wrote: -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege snip shit of the list /snip Is that like chicken of the sea? Sorry for starting this up, I figured if I just showed some pics people could look at them. Should have known better. tv
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-Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image. Now there I'd disagree with you. I've seen wider shots which give more of the total atmosphere; Tom's is too tight a shot for my preferences. Yeah, I felt I pretty much blew that one. Once the transfer took place, it got pretty crowded - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-182708-6072.htm I really couldn't move much, and then I sort of forgot that the riderless horse was coming tv
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I'm no fan of Reagan, or his politics. Quite the contrary. But, the man just died. Like it or not, he was a very popular President of the world's most powerful country. And, he just died. We should show some respect, to him, the office of president, the country, and those who are grieving. I wasn't even interested enough to look at the photos. But with all the crap being stirred by certain disrespectful persons on this list, I guess I should go look. If tom took them, they must be good... regards, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:34:09 -0400 don't be so ridiculous. Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I'm no Reagan fan, but I liked Tom's photos a lot, and I can appreciate them regardless of who is being honored. Amita _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/index.htm SUPER stuff tv. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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How could Tom's pics be pro-Reagan? Tom showed us his views of the event. I saw nothing Reagan in them at all. Had I been there I would have taken the same images so I could the sense of what happened at the state funeral. Jim A. From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:29:45 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:29:51 -0400 And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
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On 10/6/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, offered: Bob, perhaps you should ask the photographer to remove the patriotic political pics too in your usual diplomatic manner. Just to be fair. Antonio Unbelievable. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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I'm in this group. I was never a fan of Reagan or his politics, but he earned his funeral. Of Tom's pics, I like the hearse passing in front of the Washington Monument the most. Andrew Robinson frank theriault wrote: I'm no fan of Reagan, or his politics. Quite the contrary. But, the man just died. Like it or not, he was a very popular President of the world's most powerful country. And, he just died. We should show some respect, to him, the office of president, the country, and those who are grieving. I wasn't even interested enough to look at the photos. But with all the crap being stirred by certain disrespectful persons on this list, I guess I should go look. If tom took them, they must be good... regards, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:34:09 -0400 don't be so ridiculous. Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I'm no Reagan fan, but I liked Tom's photos a lot, and I can appreciate them regardless of who is being honored. Amita _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. There's something wrong with you pal. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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On the other hand, one might say your ignorance of how the sitting government does things shows a level of immaturity. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Tom, you did nothing wrong. This is just good photojournalism. People shouldn't put their own political commentary onto something that is apolitical. Just because the funeral procession was for a political figure does not make it a political event. He was the leader of our country, but he was also a citizen. Its a sad day when people inject venemous rhetoric, it shows incredible immaturity. Keep 'em coming. rg tom wrote: -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege snip shit of the list /snip Is that like chicken of the sea? Sorry for starting this up, I figured if I just showed some pics people could look at them. Should have known better. tv
Re: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap
Thank you. You've just provided the impetus I needed to send you to Trash heaven. You've turned indecision to firm action. 'Bye, little man. Oh, and PLONK! keith whaley * * * Shawn K. wrote: Ill take the opportunity to slander the name of the biggest idiot in the history of American politics any time I please! You guys are pretentious finicky lot, you can kiss my ass, Ill say whatever the hell I please whether its political or otherwise. -Shawn -Original Message- From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap Shawn, You deserve a seriously vicious dope-slap. Nobody gives a rat's ass about your opinion of President Reagan or your guess as to everybody else's EXCEPT the people who care enough about him to start a stupid flame war over your blatantly political comment. Your photo comments are appreciated but please, for the love of mike, don't bring up politics. Cory - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Nice pictures though, all of them are good, a few are great, I think my favorite is the one with the girl by the fence looking back at you, although I prefer the composition of the one where she's looking out at the procession. -Shawn
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But but, I just put all YOUR messages in the trash bin!! Little..,. Little.., uh GUY!!! YOU LITTLE GUY, your messages are going in the trash right now, PLONK (whatever the hell that means) -Shawn -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap Thank you. You've just provided the impetus I needed to send you to Trash heaven. You've turned indecision to firm action. 'Bye, little man. Oh, and PLONK! keith whaley * * * Shawn K. wrote: Ill take the opportunity to slander the name of the biggest idiot in the history of American politics any time I please! You guys are pretentious finicky lot, you can kiss my ass, Ill say whatever the hell I please whether its political or otherwise. -Shawn -Original Message- From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap Shawn, You deserve a seriously vicious dope-slap. Nobody gives a rat's ass about your opinion of President Reagan or your guess as to everybody else's EXCEPT the people who care enough about him to start a stupid flame war over your blatantly political comment. Your photo comments are appreciated but please, for the love of mike, don't bring up politics. Cory - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Nice pictures though, all of them are good, a few are great, I think my favorite is the one with the girl by the fence looking back at you, although I prefer the composition of the one where she's looking out at the procession. -Shawn
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The pictures are of an event. They are apolitical. Don't start again, Antonio. On Jun 10, 2004, at 6:00 PM, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Bob, perhaps you should ask the photographer to remove the patriotic political pics too in your usual diplomatic manner. Just to be fair. Antonio On 10 Jun 2004, at 23:56, Bob Blakely wrote: Get your political shit of the list, asshole. From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [political shit]
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Tom, They were great shots of an event that took place in your town. I was pleased to see them, not for what was pictured, but for how well they were executed. We've seen numerous pics of anti-war demonstrations and have taken them for what they were: pictures of an event. Please don't refrain from posting good shots. If some list members can't be adult enough to look at them with an apolitical eye, we'll all just have to expand our kill files. Paul On Jun 10, 2004, at 6:05 PM, tom wrote: Sorry for starting this up, I figured if I just showed some pics people could look at them. Should have known better. tv
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Does this remind anyone of the Who when he forgot t take his meds? Stan On Jun 10, 2004, at 5:21 PM, Shawn K. wrote: But but, I just put all YOUR messages in the trash bin!! Little..,. Little.., uh GUY!!! YOU LITTLE GUY, your messages are going in the trash right now, PLONK (whatever the hell that means) -Shawn -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap Thank you. You've just provided the impetus I needed to send you to Trash heaven. You've turned indecision to firm action. 'Bye, little man. Oh, and PLONK! keith whaley * * * Shawn K. wrote: [juvinile trash talk]
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That should read, you're a tough guy. Furthermore, there should be a comma between your face and your asshole. As written, it means you have an asshole on your face. On Jun 10, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Shawn K. wrote: At 6'3 235 I doubt you would say that to my face asshole. But you just keep pretending your a tough guy. Sincerely, Shawn PS Fuck the right wing, everyone with a college degree knows better, nothing but a bunch of inbred hillbillies from CRAWFURDS TEXASSS on the right wing. -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Get your political shit of the list, asshole. From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [political shit]
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Tom, Overall I am very impressed. Your eye and style keeps improving (not to mention execution). Thanks for sharing these pics with us. Certainly gives me ideas on how to view subjects. Bruce Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:54:38 PM, you wrote: t Yeah, I felt I pretty much blew that one. Once the transfer took place, it t got pretty crowded - t http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-182708-6072.htm t I really couldn't move much, and then I sort of forgot that the riderless t horse was coming t tv
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On 10 Jun 2004 at 18:43, Stan Halpin wrote: Does this remind anyone of the Who when he forgot t take his meds? More like a the now extinct Dobo, I wonder what a psychiatrist would make of it? :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Shawn, I have to say that is the most pathetic attempt at trolling that I've ever seen. You called a fellow list member a bigot without any shred of evidence or any reason. And what makes you think that he is a right-wing bigot? Should I call you a Stalinist or a Nazi because of your overblown rhetoric. The photos presented here are of documentary nature, they are not here to spread the agenda. People have strong feelings both anti and pro-Reagan, there is no reason to stir up a pot here. I suggest that if you have a chip on your shoulder and in need of a good venting there are many places to do it, this is not it however. Please do it somewhere else, stop wasting our time and bandwidth. Albert I only disagree when its pertinent to do so, if you have to set up a kill file in order to maintain the sanctity of your delusions, then by all means do so you right wing bigot
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Nicely done Tom! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:16 AM To: pdml Subject: reagan cortege So Braswell emails me last night and asks what the deal with the Reagan funeral is. Like I'd know. Anyway, he shows up here at 3 today and we head down to get what we can get - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/index.htm Yeah, I took Charles Braswell to a sushi restaurant. tv
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This kind of crap has no place on this apolotical mailing list. At 6'3, 225 pounds, I would say just about anything I wanted to your face, and then kick your sorry ass into your tonsils if you decided to move away from being conversational. Anyway, you just joined that pussface aspercio or whatever the hell his name is and some idiot aussie on my kill list. The problem with the behaviour you have shown is that you cut off access to the very people who can answer the questions that brought you here. Bye bye asshole. William Robb - Original Message - From: Shawn K. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege At 6'3 235 I doubt you would say that to my face asshole. But you just keep pretending your a tough guy. Sincerely, Shawn PS Fuck the right wing, everyone with a college degree knows better, nothing but a bunch of inbred hillbillies from CRAWFURDS TEXASSS on the right wing.
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I never hit a woman in my life. Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Shawn K. wrote: My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... Whoa! A Tough Guy! ... btw, how many of those countless jaws were women's?
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you're delusional Christian - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them.
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No, this is hilarious, you calling me immature after all these other shits who started the name calling, and after the message you sent me in private, which was as full of vitriol as anything else on this list. Heh, you send me that immature bullshit, then you turn around and call me immature... GONZ, ARE YOU RETARDED I'm seriously wondering if you are a retard??? The name Gonz, it sounds like something you would give a retarded child... And then rest of you call me names, and then turn around and get mad when I snipe back. Bunch of hypocritical dimwits. Go cry to your fucking mothers, someone on the internet doesn't like Ronald Reagan waaah waaah wahh, I called him an asshole but he kept sniping back waaah waaah waah, you bunch of fucking babies... -Shawn -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Woh. That's hilarious. I had kill filed him, but some of his/her vitriol will come out in replies nevertheless. Its best for everyone to just ignore this type of behavior. He/she (I really think its a she putting on a show) is very juvenile and will only eat up bandwidth if responded to. They will slowly die away, as did several others before her. Otherwise they are like pigeons, feed them and you just get more of them! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a drama queen. tv -Original Message- From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege You'd break your leg kicking my hard ass tough guy. I've fought tougher than you before, and would welcome a good scuffle, I always did feel good after a fight, mainly because I won, and because it's in my blood to fight. It's notable that you say all that you said like you're just the toughest mofo on earth, then you go and ignore me. Pretty weak William Robb. My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... And before you go commenting on what a barbarian I am, remember that I have a computer degree, a bachelors for that matter, so even us barbarians can learn to use fancy shmancy computers. -Shawn -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:21 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Re: reagan cortege This kind of crap has no place on this apolotical mailing list. At 6'3, 225 pounds, I would say just about anything I wanted to your face, and then kick your sorry ass into your tonsils if you decided to move away from being conversational. Anyway, you just joined that pussface aspercio or whatever the hell his name is and some idiot aussie on my kill list. The problem with the behaviour you have shown is that you cut off access to the very people who can answer the questions that brought you here. Bye bye asshole. William Robb - Original Message - From: Shawn K. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege At 6'3 235 I doubt you would say that to my face asshole. But you just keep pretending your a tough guy. Sincerely, Shawn PS Fuck the right wing, everyone with a college degree knows better, nothing but a bunch of inbred hillbillies from CRAWFURDS TEXASSS on the right wing.
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You're jealous. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege you're delusional Christian - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them.
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I find it ... amusing to provoke folks I know nothing about. How they react when they're angry tells me a lot about them. All are miffed, but: Some (a very few) respond with shame. I feel sorry for them. Some (many folks) respond with a well thought out retort. They're pretty normal, and I like them. Some (a very few) respond with a biting wit. I love these folks. I know they're fun, and probably enjoyed giving it back.. with a good twist. Some (too many) respond like you. Well, there you have him, folks. No further comment necessary. Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 6'3 235 I doubt you would say that to my face asshole. But you just keep pretending your a tough guy. Sincerely, Shawn PS Fuck the right wing, everyone with a college degree knows better, nothing but a bunch of inbred hillbillies from CRAWFURDS TEXASSS on the right wing. From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your political shit of the list, asshole. From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [political shit]
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well, i'm a woman, and i can't say you are doing much for me right now... tan. -Original Message- From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege I never hit a woman in my life. Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Shawn K. wrote: My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... Whoa! A Tough Guy! ... btw, how many of those countless jaws were women's?
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On 11 Jun 2004 at 13:42, TMP wrote: well, i'm a woman, and i can't say you are doing much for me right now... Err, I don't believe that you are dumb, blond or live with mummy :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Yeah Bob, you're just so witty and smart, because being witty equals being smart, never mind all those things like SAT scores, and IQ scores, and what have you I'm honestly not friendly, nor do I really like people, they largely annoy me, I'm super competitive, I always want to win, and it miffs me when its impossible to win. Like now, now it's impossible to win, it's impossible to save face, but I must run this broken train through wall after wall until every single one of you simply give up out of sheer fatigue. Its just the way I am. Sorry, but my will to achieve the upper hand is simply enormous in these types of situations. I probably should have pursued a degree in dictatorships, or gone to Grad school as a Fascist overlord in training. But you know, my school just didn't offer such forward thinking fields of study. Go figure. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege I find it ... amusing to provoke folks I know nothing about. How they react when they're angry tells me a lot about them. All are miffed, but: Some (a very few) respond with shame. I feel sorry for them. Some (many folks) respond with a well thought out retort. They're pretty normal, and I like them. Some (a very few) respond with a biting wit. I love these folks. I know they're fun, and probably enjoyed giving it back.. with a good twist. Some (too many) respond like you. Well, there you have him, folks. No further comment necessary. Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 6'3 235 I doubt you would say that to my face asshole. But you just keep pretending your a tough guy. Sincerely, Shawn PS Fuck the right wing, everyone with a college degree knows better, nothing but a bunch of inbred hillbillies from CRAWFURDS TEXASSS on the right wing. From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your political shit of the list, asshole. From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [political shit]
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I am not even going to read this thread. I am deleting it completely unread. I couldn't stand Reagan's politics. I really couldn't. OTOH, I feel it's perfectly appropriate for some mourning of a former president. At least by those that admired him. I expect the same thing will happen when Clinton dies. There will be detractors then as well, while others will assess his record saying he was great. But I suspect this thread is getting into political debates and I prefer to do my political venting elsewhere. Marnie aka Doe delete delete delete
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Not all women like me, no, many despise me, because as you've seen, I am a bastard, prone to tantrums, who is also ridiculously stubborn, and almost impossible to get the final word against. But there are those who are attracted to these types, they tend to be the passionate ones, I prefer it that way really. -Shawn -Original Message- From: TMP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege well, i'm a woman, and i can't say you are doing much for me right now... tan. -Original Message- From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege I never hit a woman in my life. Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Shawn K. wrote: My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... Whoa! A Tough Guy! ... btw, how many of those countless jaws were women's?
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Of what should he be jealous? You're a rude jerk. And for the record, just because you describe yourself in an e-mail doesn't mean that's what you really are. I could tell you I'm 21 and I look like Britney Spears but it wouldn't make it true. Jealous of someone who brags about himself in an e-mail? Oh, give more of that! (sarcasm intended) - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege You're jealous. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege you're delusional Christian - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them.
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This isn't worth a response, I'm sorry to say. Shawn K. wrote: Reagan was a dumb blonde, obviously the current government is stirring up this mess in order to turn up some republican converts. Otherwise I doubt very much that 90% of the country really gives a rip. Nice pictures though, all of them are good, a few are great, I think my favorite is the one with the girl by the fence looking back at you, although I prefer the composition of the one where she's looking out at the procession. -Shawn -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:16 AM To: pdml Subject: reagan cortege So Braswell emails me last night and asks what the deal with the Reagan funeral is. Like I'd know. Anyway, he shows up here at 3 today and we head down to get what we can get - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/index.htm Yeah, I took Charles Braswell to a sushi restaurant. tv
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Har! Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] That should read, you're a tough guy. Furthermore, there should be a comma between your face and your asshole. As written, it means you have an asshole on your face. On Jun 10, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Shawn K. wrote: At 6'3 235 I doubt you would say that to my face asshole. But you just keep pretending your a tough guy. PS Fuck the right wing, everyone with a college degree knows better, nothing but a bunch of inbred hillbillies from CRAWFURDS TEXASSS on the right wing. From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your political shit of the list, asshole. From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [political shit]
Re: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap
Narcissism. Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10 Jun 2004 at 18:43, Stan Halpin wrote: Does this remind anyone of the Who when he forgot t take his meds? More like a the now extinct Dobo, I wonder what a psychiatrist would make of it? :-)
RE: reagan cortege
Ditto, Tan. In fact, this guy is joining Aparicio in my kill file... -Original Message- From: TMP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege well, i'm a woman, and i can't say you are doing much for me right now... tan. -Original Message- From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege I never hit a woman in my life. Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Shawn K. wrote: My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... Whoa! A Tough Guy! ... btw, how many of those countless jaws were women's?
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Tan, this actually is a woman. With a middle name like Taimana, it has to be woman right. I mean isn't Sean the male version of this name, not Shawn, which like Dawn, is feminine? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, i'm a woman, and i can't say you are doing much for me right now... tan. -Original Message- From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege I never hit a woman in my life. Most women like the fact that I'm a tough guy, and smart, being smart and tough and handsome, women like me, I like them. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Shawn K. wrote: My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... Whoa! A Tough Guy! ... btw, how many of those countless jaws were women's?
