Re: EXIF data on TIF's
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:47:39AM +, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 16/03/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reviewing some of my photos for the Pentax Gallery that were shot as .tifs early on and find that there's no EXIF data. Is this normal behavior for .tifs out of the *ist D? Try looking in the IPTC data instead, I don't think TIFF supports EXIF. Eric Oh yes it does. Furthermore, the *ist D TIFF files contain EXIF information. But a lot of image manipulating software thinks that EXIF data only comes in JPEG files, so doesn't even try to find it in a TIFF. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Gallery Access
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 09:34:56PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:09:21PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Hey Dario, now you're not the only one with motorcycle racing photos in the gallery! :-P Are you sure those are permitted under the terms of the gallery? Or do you really have written permission from any people in the photograph? In all the photos I've posted so far there are no recognizable individuals shown. Not that it would matter - they're public figures in a public event so I don't need a release. (If I did they'd have sued me years ago when the photos were first published!) Hmm. I've considered submitting this one: http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/mh2004.jpg but that clause bothered me. Most of the time my images come under the news reporting exclusion in the copyright laws, so I haven't paid too much attention to the other conditions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Coffee Grinder
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:31:24PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I have to replace my coffee grinder, so I'm asking everyone who may grind their own beans what grinder they may have and if they are satisfied with it. I want to get a burr grinder, not one with a rotating blade. I've had my Braun for 30+ years (You'd think they could build a product that would last! LOL), and what I like about it is that the grind is adjustable from extra fine to quite coarse, it's simple to operate, and takes up very little counter space. It's a bit noisy, however, so a quieter machine would be very nice. Small is better than big. Shel Those Brauns are definitely nice. My one is about 20 years old, and is just beginning to show signs of age - I expect to get maybe five more years out of it. When it does eventually cease to function I'll replace it with the backup one I've got, new in box, which I bought at the same time. As for noise - I sit mine on a cork place mat. It helps a little. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Windows shell extension to view thumbnails from PEFs
There's a post in the dpreview forums linking to a web page http://www.idfoxx.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18662sid=6bbf1ecbb3a940a790f1363fecfe0730 announcing a Windows Shell Extension that lets the standard Windows file browser know how to extract thumbnails from .PEFs (and from a plethora of other file types, including DNGs). If you would like to see thumbnails from your Pentax RAW files it might be worth giving this a try. I haven't tried it myself yet, but there are several favourable reviews in the discussion thread at the above link. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Windows shell extension to view thumbnails from PEFs
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 12:28:55AM +0900, David Savage wrote: On 3/17/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a post in the dpreview forums linking to a web page http://www.idfoxx.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18662sid=6bbf1ecbb3a940a790f1363fecfe0730 announcing a Windows Shell Extension that lets the standard Windows file browser know how to extract thumbnails from .PEFs (and from a plethora of other file types, including DNGs). If you would like to see thumbnails from your Pentax RAW files it might be worth giving this a try. I haven't tried it myself yet, but there are several favourable reviews in the discussion thread at the above link. Either I'm doing something wrong, or it doesn't like XP x64. It doesn't do anything for me. From reading posts in the original thread you need to refresh the thumbnails if you install this extension after you've already viewed a folder containing PEFs/DNGs/etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Camera destroyed, CF survives
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 04:26:34PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:33:48PM +0900, David Savage wrote.. That bloke didn't think it all the way through did he? Make that: that bloke did not think at all, did he? He could well have qualified for a Darwin Award himself.. Hardly. Read the article. The cameras were 240 feet from the blast. The official safe zone was 800 feet back, but as he couldn't get the remote to operate reliably at that range he got permission to be 600 feet from the bridge, shielded by heavy earthmoving equipment. I don't think that 3/4 of the distance, tucked up against a Caterpillar, counts as reckless exposure to danger. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:33:50AM +, mike wilson wrote: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Family List? PDML?? Adams family. Uncle Fester That would be Addams family, then. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: One that got accepted
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:43:50AM -0600, Tom C wrote: Did you guys realize that as of yesterday there's not a single entry in the Glamour/Fashion and Sports/Action categories? Really? I should get off my backside and submit one or two, then ... I've had an account since the gallery opened, but I'm a procrastinator. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: high speed hijinks
There's one around here - for a small commission I'll pick one up and deliver it for you. So if you've got a spare $1.3 million or so lying around ... On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 08:41:17PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy hell that's fast! But wouldn't you know it, there isn't a Bugati dealer around here anywhere. g -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Short video about the Bugatti Veyron achieving 407 kph ... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x157l2_bugatti-veyron-at-top-speed Nice... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 11, Issue 326
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:21:03AM -0700, Jay Taylor wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Just took a look on Boz site to see what that looked like. Quite the monster! Enjoy it. :-) If you don't mind my asking, what does something like that cost these days? Godfrey Godfrey, I actually managed to hang onto both my kidneys for the time being. But I did have to sell off my Tokina 400 AT-X, Pentax FA 50/1.4, Pentax K 500/4.5 and 645K adapter w/75mm lens so as not to be in trouble with my wife and I still owe her big time. The seller was asking $4,000 for it. Jay That sounds like a good price. I've only ever seen three for sale; the one I bought ($3,200 in 2000), and two others since then at the same kind of price. And that was before the K10D was released, and the price of good Pentax glass started going through the roof. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 645D Musings
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:30:08AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There are times that I have wished for a larger format than 35mm and even the formats on 120/220 film. For whatever reason - and the reasons varied at different times - I could not see getting and using a large format camera, even a small large format camera, like a 4x5. With the possible coming of the 645D (or is it the D645?) I'm wondering about how great a quality boost one could get over a K10D. Might it get reasonably close to 4x5, assuming the Pentax implements the technology well? How about 6x9 If the 645D won't approach these quality levels, what sort of pixel count and sensor size - again assuming good implementation of the technology - might? There's no simple answer to that question. The first thing to do is to establish the baselevels; how well do you think the K10D and/or the earlier 6MP cameras serve as replacements for 35mm cameras? How about as replacements for 645 or 6x7 cameras? I believe the sensor in the 645D is a 31MP sensor with a 1.2x crop factor compared to a film 645. That means the sensor sites are pretty close to the same size as those in the 6MP sensors used in the *ist D series, so I would expect the noise levels to be at least as good as those earlier cameras (even assuming no technology-driven improvements). As a rough-and-ready approximation I'd expect the 645D would serve as well, viewed as an alternative to a 4x5 large-format camera, as the *ist-DS would serve as an alternative to a 6x7(cm) medium format. Whether or not that is sufficient for your needs really depends on just what you are looking for. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: My Pentax MZ-30 camera
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:48:33AM -0700, Siddheshwar Lohar wrote: I have been using this MZ-30 camera (now its obsolete) of course since long. It started giving some message on its LCD when I switch it on. It shows me the message Av-- and keeps blinking, nothing happens, i cannot see any other message and cannot click the shutter button. Have you tried changing the battery? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mega-Enablement: FA*250-600/5.6
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:39:17AM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: That link works! Very nice. I wonder--does the shake reduction let you shoot hand-held, or is the lens just too heavy? I'd never consider trying to use that lens hand-held; it's just too heavy (and too unwieldy). But I'd expect the SR to be a help when using a monopod. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
And that's the fault of the American legal system, not the British legal system ... While I wish you luck in your case, I think it's a great deal better to have a verdict based on the merits of the case, rather than on anyones ability to pay for lawyers. On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:41:13PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Walter. I'm sure we'll prevail, but it might be expensive. Paul On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: My prayers will be with you tomorrow. Life sucks sometimes! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
It's not a travesty - it's a problem with two different systems interacting. If this were being tried in a UK court the legal aid system would provide a lawyer for the plaintiff, but it wouldn't necessarily provide a lawyer from the most expensive firm in town (or, at any rate, it wouldn't pay him any more than the regulation fee it would provide to any lawyer). But when the jurisdiction is overseas it gets more complicated. The system obviously errs on the side of providing better service, rather than leaving the rights of a British citizen in the hands of lawyers who might be unfamiliar with the complications of a trans-national case. That seems to me to be the correct thing to do. And while I'm sure Paul is being truthful in his assessment of the merits of the case that doesn't mean the case shouldn't be brought - the law should be available to everyone (even alcoholic drug dealers). And there is at least enough of a case here for it to be brought to trial; a minor child has been taken from the home of a British parent and taken to a foreign country. The legal guardianship of that child is in dispute, and that can only be settled in court. On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:51:53PM -0400, Jim King wrote: What a travesty to make of the legal system! Good luck, and may your lawyer tie them in knots! Regards, Jim BTW, can you recover your legal fees if, as hoped, the judge tosses the case out of court? It seems to me that there should be some penalty for bringing a case without merit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A disastrous farewell to film.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:34:44PM +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry for you Peter but wonder what kind of insurance would cover such an accident. My camera insurance (Alte Leipziger Versicherung AG) covers theft, loss, and all kinds of accidental damage, practically every conceivable kind of mishap with the only exception of simply forgetting the camera on a train or elsewhere (literally liegengelassen). Further conditions: no coverage if stolen from the car between 11 pm and 7 am, and the gear must not be visible from outside of the vehicle (and even this latter condition is waived for rented cars). My camera coverage doesn't even have those kind of exclusions; If I leave the camera in a taxi, or on a bench, it's still covered. The cheapest way (at least in the US) to get that kind of coverage is as an addendum to a household insurance policy. Exactly how much it costs will also depend on where the coverage starts. In my case the first $500 of any single claim is my problem; after that everything is covered at full replacement cost. (Of course the one time I might have needed it - when I snapped my MZ-S off the back of my big lens, leaving the lens mount behind - the repair bill came to $480 :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: test
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 04:27:01PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling I ask myself the same question at the ATM, (stupid programmers...) Shel Belinkoff wrote: Shel Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! Speaking of stupid, did you know McDonalds has braille menus available at their drive-up window? The drive-up ATMs at the banks have braille keyboards, too ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Final Four questions?
You *are* out of the loop. San Jose was one of the host cities for the round of 16 this year, so the local media coverage was intense. On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 01:20:49PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I guess I'm outa the loop - never heard of it. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Sullivan It's a really big event here in the states, called March Madness. The best 64 or 65 big time college basketball teams get invitations to a playoff. 64 teams are hosted by 16 cities for 3 games around the USA (Mar 15-18). The 16 winners move onto 4 cities (March 22-25) for 3 games each. The 4 winners move onto Atlanta this year for the finals. It amounts to 63 pretty good college basketball games in the space of 3 weeks with local interest from around the country. See the brackets below... http://sportsline.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/brackets/printable_men -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Battery life on K10D, counter reset ?
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 05:23:38PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Battery life on K10D, counter reset ? I never erase a card before putting it in the camera. I always just reformat the full card in camera. That has been my habit as well. I expect the filename conflict happenned when the grip battery went south and the camera switched over to the in-body battery. I wouldn't have noticed except that I tried to dump three cards into one directory on my computer later, and got a filename conflict at that time. Scary, if it is possible for this to happen, is it also possible that the camera might overwrite it's own files while shooting? Or would it start a new directory on the card? William Robb It's hard to say, but I rather doubt it would over-write images; I think the camera checks a card first, and ensures that the next image number it will use is larger than any image numbers it finds on the card. The only way I can think of for the camera to start re-using numbers is if the battery died (so the internal frame count was lost), and the card that was in the camera when a fresh battery was installed (or the first card that was insrted after the battery change) was an older card that still had images on it. In that situation the camera would reset the internal frame count to one more than the highest image number that it found on the card; it would have no way of knowing that there was some other card containing higher-numbered images. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Whose Daddy?
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:28:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2007 4:26:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You missed it. Look again. Paul On Mar 29, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Jim Apilado wrote: An unusual title for the subjects. I might have titled it The Runners, or the T-shirts. But you must know something about them the viewer would not know. Jim A. I looked again too, and I don't get it. I did, and I don't speak Spanish (that's a big hint!) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Friday For Sale
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:29:14PM -0700, Bill Lawlor wrote: Battery Grip D-BG2 for K10D in like new condition. I only put it on the camera for a day, then decided it was not my style. All papers included. $100 . Grrr. My one arrived from BH today. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: bags bags bags
Mine do (Pelican 1510 and 1620). I'm considering one more - a roll-around tool box from OSH. It doesn't have any internal fittings, so I'd need to put something together from all the other bags, inserts, etc., but it has the distinct advantage of being tough enough to stand on, making it possible to shoot over the heads of the people in front of me. On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:08:47PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: My next one is going to have wheels. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bags suck. Get yourself a Pelican waterproof and dustproof case. Paul On Mar 30, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I have more freekin' camera bags than I know what to do with. But I don't have a good bag that will hold the K10D plus DA14, DA21, FA28, FA43 and DA70, with one lens mounted on the camera, and still a) have enough room to carry all the other junk I often carry (batteries, cards, remote, notebook, book to read, cell phone, Epson P2000 etc ... NO laptop) and b) carry all that and still work out of it. I have bags that will FIT all that but are useless to work out of, bags that are wonderful to work out of but only carry two lenses comfortably ... etc etc. My Domkes *almost* do it but the F6 is a little too tight, the F3 is too deep, the F2 gets too large, etc etc etc. So I began a search for that next 'perfect bag' to fulfill those requirements a couple of weeks ago. After looking at a lot of bags, I think I'm coming down to a decision. The Lowepro Stealth Reporter series design works well and they have a wide range of sizes. The D100 is too small ... I tried one of them, stuff doesn't fit. The D200 looks like it might work and the D300 really has to work ... but the D200 and D300 are out of stock locally so I can't try my stuff in them. I *will not* buy another bag that I do not fit my stuff into physically and see how it works. The other two are the Crumpler (famous for the worlds *worst* website... not to mention stupid bag names) 6 Million Dollar Home and 7 Million Dollar Home. But nobody carries them in stock locally. My local dealer told me the other day that one of his distributors does carry Crumpler and maybe he had a '6 Million Dollar Home' that he could bring in for me to look at. If I don't call you today, figure he doesn't have one. He didn't call. So this morning I called BH and asked if it would be all right if I ordered *four* bags ... both Crumplers and both Lowepros ... and then returned three. It's worth the shipping charges to get the right one, to me. They said no problem, so four bags are on their way to me now... Of course, my local dealer calls me back about an hour after that. ;-) Our distributor didn't have a 6, but he had a 5 and a 7, dropped them off... The 5 Million Dollar Home is obviously too small so I didn't bother looking at it much, but it does seem nicely made. The 7 Million Dollar Home is very nice. Everything fit the way I wanted it to and is well protected, and there's a ton more room both above the gear and in pockets to handle all the other incidentals. It's nicely styled ... trim and not an obvious camera bag ... and looks to be well made. Blue with an orange interior isn't quite my thing but it seems a very workable bag. I don't know whether the 6 will actually have enough room, based on how everything fits in the 7 ... It's about two inches smaller both in length and height, but the same front to back. Anyone else using these bags? What do you carry in them? how do you like them? Please ... only the Lowepro Stealth Reporter D200-D300 and the Crumpler 6/7 Million Dollar Home bags. I don't want to even think about anything else at this point. Once I settle on this one, I'm going to do a fire sale on all the ones I don't use... ! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Planes and cameras
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 01:42:13PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote: Dave, if you've got half a day, you gotta go to Valley of Fire state park. About 70 miles north east of Vegas. Otherworldly! Its a small park but well worth the trip. Kenneth Waller Hmmm. I'm wending my way towards Vegas; I'm typing this in a motel room halfway down I15 from Salt Lake City, heading for Bryce Canyon tomorrow, and Zion the day after. I'll have to look up Valley of Fire on the map. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Planes and cameras
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:05:46PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: A 16-45 and 50 200 going to be good enough for this Ken. I'm travelling light. I'm not :-) I've got the 80-200 as well as the K10D, *ist-D, 18-55, 10-17, 28-105 and a couple of 50mms. But I'm driving, not flying. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Please unenable me!
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 11:13:55AM -0700, Juan Buhler wrote: On 4/14/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no easy way around this - the Leica M8 IS a lovely camera.? But it's not for the same work as a Pentax DSLR. Can you imagine shooting soccer game (with a 170-500mm zoom) with a M8? Sure. You can say a similar thing about doing street photography with a DSLR with a mirror slap and a diaphragm that closes every time you take a picture, completely giving you away. Some people make that work. I'm sure a talented photographer would make great soccer pictures with a Leica and a short fixed lens. [...] its' a life style, a status symbol. Take the M8 for a ride in your Porche, and bring it to the theatre, the opera, the exhibition etc. - whereever you go to enjoy life. People buy an M8 for the same resons you buy a Porche, Ferrari or BMW. Dude that's presumptuous. I drive a late 90's Honda, worth about half what that M8 would cost. I don't care to get a new car. I do care to have a camera that works the way I work in the street. IOW, the features I need from a car I can get from a cheap Honda. The ones I'd like in a camera it seems I can only get from Leica, or from the Epson RD-1, except for its drawbacks. I'd agree, but argue from the other side. I bought a (used) BMW, because represented the best bang for the buck in what I wanted from a car. There is at least one Porsche owner on the list, too. To suggest that we chose to buy those cars because of what others thought, rather than because of the way the cars performed, is an argument based on ignorance. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Is it worth updating this..
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:11:27AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: I'll put the list on my web site if we start compiling it here... Current home page: //http:www.panix.com/~johnf/ PAW Gallery://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Is it worth updating this..
I'll put the list on my web site if we start compiling it here... I could mirror it (or even host it) on pdml.us, if you like. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL systemDVD's
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 05:25:02PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Ditto, for the new HD-DVD and BLuRay disc formats, no rentals available yet, even though these HD players have been out for over a year or more. HD-DVD and BluRay can both kiss my a$$. DRM'd to where they won't output high-def out the analog. Yeah, I know they aren't doing it *now*, but I for one wouldn't be thrilled if my new HD-ready HDTV couldn't play a HD-DVD because it didn't have HDMI input and only had component. That's one reason why I won't be buying any HD DVD player for some time. I'm quite happy with my current HD TV, which doesn't have HDMI inputs. Mind you, I'm sure some enterpreneur will come up with a black box that converts HDMI to analog component signals (if it hasn't already been done) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthat can playPALsystemDVD's
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:40:48PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Sir, the typical Blu-Ray/HDDVD buyer is not going to still use an older HD set that doesnt have HDMI interface anyway, As good as they were, none of the older HD sets that dont have HDMI input are as good as the best HD sets being made at the time of BLURAY HDDVD introductions and later. The bottom line, is you wont even hardly see any differece between blu-ray/HDDVD on those older sets compared to upconverted DVD if the set is so old it doesnt have HDMI. I cry bullshit on this. CRT's have been capable of reproducing 1920x1080 (i.e. 1080i, 1080p) and *certainly* 1280x720 (i.e. 720p) for many years. Many HD-ready sets sold withing the past 12-18 months do not have HDMI-capable inputes. Well, my (non-HDMI) HDTV might not be as good as the best HD sets being made at the time of BLURAY HDDVD introduction, but it (and many other sets of that vintage) are quite capable of doing 1080i and 720p - that's what over-the-air HDTV can do. And while it's true that I won't see a difference between upconverted DVD and blu-ray/HDDVD on my set, I sure as hell would be able to see a difference if I could get a 720p or 1080i component signal from a HDDVD player. But as the manufacturers won't provide such a signal, the argument is moot. Blu-Ray/HDDVD have shot themselves in the foot; the early-adopters of HDTV (back in the days when the price of entry was $5000 and up) aren't quite ready yet to drop another few $K on a system upgrade (genuine 1080p LCD TVs are still pretty expensive, although the price is beginning to come down to more reasonable levels). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPALsystemDVD's
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:47:38PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: you guys are not really with it, there are hundreds of networks showing 1000's of programs a month, so there still are tons of good shows, movies, and events available. NO, its not all good, probably mostly not good, but with that much programming, I have no problem finding more than enough to view with my DVR. Hell, VH1 Classics alone could fill a major portion of my viewing time and thats only one channel! ... so what sort of dollar figure (per month) is required for a network-blessed DVR High-def experience? Just curious. My homebrew mythtv box costs me whatever electricity is to run it... -Cory The full satellite package from DirecTV, except for the extra sports channels, runs something like $100 a month, plus an extra $10 to get the HD programming. They graciously waive the $5/month DVR charge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Ground Cover Question
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 12:46:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/20/2007 12:56:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Marnie I always carry a large white plastic sack folded in my photo bag outside pocket. I use it for wet ground and could probably use it to add a little light reflection for macr shots as well. I have it also as a backup if the photo bag breaks or as a rain protection for the K10D. Light and very useful IMHO Greetings Markus == What a good idea, Markus. While I think I want more padding, that would work in a pinch in situation where I unexpectedly want to get down. And I like the idea of using it as a light reflector too. Marnie aka Doe :-) I have some white garbage bags the right size. If you ask your local Brownie troop, I'm sure you will find somebody who will show you how to weave strips of newspaper into a sit-upon. They are usually made such that a tall kitchen garbage bas is used for the waterproof covering over the newspaper padding, but I'm sure you could work out how to make one a little larger. The weaving is important; the final product offers more padding than just covering newspapers with waterproof plastic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 08:13:08PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: It doesnt go out much and things like my PC and direcTV HDDVR are on batttery backup UPS anyway. wow. What's wow about that? I'm sure many of us use a UPS for our PCs; I've got one that's earmarked to be put on my DirecTV TiVo boxes the next time I power down the A/V rack. That way I'll be able to record shows even if there's a power dropout. I won't be able to watch them until the power comes back, of course, but that's not the time-critical step. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 06:37:36PM -0600, Tom C wrote: From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:23:44 -0400 Yup, when you are using a SAT receiver your DVR recordings can still go on during short power dropouts with a UPS if the dish electronics still have power. It's really most useful for short AC power glitches which might have caused the HDDVR to do VERY unwanted system reboots while watching or recording shows. jco Heavens to Betsy! We wouldn't want that to happen would we? Well, no - I certainly wouldn't. If I decide that a TV show is something I want to watch, then I take reasonable precautions to make sure the recording will take place. Given the number of $K I've spent on A/V equipment, an extra $150 or so on a battery backup to tide me over the vagaries of power supplied by PGE doesn't seem unreasonable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG Deadline tomorrow!
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 01:38:20PM -0400, Walter Hamler wrote: Thanks P.J., I managed to get a photo uploaded, but with great difficulty. It seems that no matter what I did when resizing a pic from the K10 that was shot in JPEG Fine down to the required pixel size and then saving with a new name, the file size was just barely exceeding the 75k size limit. The only way I could get it down was by using a very low quality level of save and the image quality really was poor compared to the origonal. How do you all save images to that size and maintain at least a good looking image? Well, the first thing to do is make sure you strip off all the extraneous metadata; that takes a big bite out of the 75k limit. Do a Save for Web rather than a Save As (or whatever equivalent commands your editior uses). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: a flower for Shel - GDG
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 06:20:19AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I tend doubt that - can you substantiate your claim. In talking with people at a couple of labs here, they say the most popular subject they get are babies and - believe it or not - cats. You can even combine the two, and take pictures of baby cats :-) http://www.jfwaf.com/FosterCats/images/IMGP1324.jpg We just rescued these, and their mother, from Death Row at the local shelter; they were due to be euthanized yesterday evening. We're working with a local rescue organization, who will deal with the adoption fairs, etc. But we get to foster the kitties until they are arge enough to be adopted - that will not be for another one or two months. On-topic observation: that shot was taken using the AF540 on the K10D. No flash brackets, bounce flash, etc. - the only thing that is in any way fancy is that I used the diffuser panel (even though I wasn't using a wide-angle lens). There's a bit of obvious burn-out on the front of the cat bed, but overall I think the combination seems to work pretty well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: color wheel photo project
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 04:43:07PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote: Luka Knezevic - Strika wrote: would this perhaps do for green? http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o126/concavex/_IGP6182_2.jpg luka hmmm - a bit of a stretch - for our 6 shot wheel (or rectangle) start with those shots of mine and Christian for what my idea is... (another just for the hell fo it project) (in case you missed 'em when we each posted these) christian's lonely cormorant http://tinyurl.com/348g67 ann's trees http://tinyurl.com/2ck4u8 add your URL here: :) http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/GoGoGo.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass
That looks like the sort of explanation Calvin's dad would provide :-) On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 10:01:05PM +0100, Bob W wrote: It's photon residue, popularly known as 'light lint'. It's scientific Latin name is 'Floccus lucis'. The stuff that the filter stops from going into the lens has to go somewhere, and so it gets trapped between the filter and the front element. It's the light equivalent of all that fluff that accumulates in the filter of your clothes dryer and which is so satisfying to remove. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 23 April 2007 21:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass In my case it was more than dust, but something more akin to a haze or a film. Yeah, there was a little dust in there as well. Apart from the dust, my theory about the haze is that there may be something in the lens, like lubricants, that emit some gas or evaporate slightly (we've all experienced the lubricant getting dry at one time or another), and that the filter over the lens element prevents the evaporation from just dissipating into the atmosphere. Dust, like rust, never sleeps! Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: BTW, in my world dust cannot migrate to the area between the filter and the lens unless the filter is removed. :) lol ... Do you have them sealed somehow? ;-) I always thought that too, which is why I found the consistent build up of dusty film between the two quite curious. I could never figure that out either. I had a filter on my Nikkor 50/1.4 from the time I bought it. I was pretty good about cleaning the front surface, but ignored the inside surfaces. It was quite amazing how much dust was in there after a year or so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Ordered Lightroom today
I'd guess you have AMD processors. Intels (or the latest generation of AMDs) work fine with Lightroom, but earlier AMD chipsets lack one particular set of extended instructions. Unfortunately, Lightroom makes heavy use of those instructions. On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 08:57:25PM -0400, AlexG wrote: Let us know how you find it. Personally, i think it really stinks on Windows. I have two processors and tons of ram, and it's slow. On 4/23/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I just took the plunge and ordered myself a copy of Lightroom. Now we'll see how the learning curve goes... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Making a small DNG or RAW file
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:00:56AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Perhaps I wasn't clear. What I want(ed) to know was if there is some way to generate a true raw file, in either a format like PEF or DNG either directly from the camera or by resizing the file in some editing software (without changing to TIFF or JPEG or any other such format) to make it physically smaller, both in dimension and size. As I said, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that question (No), but I had to ask. Adam mentioned it can be done with one of the Canon models. It would be great if there could be a 900 x 600 RAW file could be generated so it could easily be posted to a web page and people could work on it as some here do with JPEGs (often with the comment that there's not much more they can do because it's not a RAW file). Shel There's really no point. The only significant difference between a true RAW file and a lossless true-colour file such as a 16-bit-per component TIFF is that the RAW file only has one colour component per sensor site (laid out in a pattern determined by the Bayer filter matrix on the sensor). Once you downsize the original image you're going to have sensor data for all three components at each reduced pixel, so you should save the data using a file format that can represent this. As a matter of interest that's what my original 'halfsize' program did; it took the RGBG data from a 2x2 pixel array on the sensor, and stored it in a single RGB pixel (taking the average of the two green values). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Pentax software and K10D firmware
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 12:39:46PM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/ Thanks, Dario. Brief summary: It's the release of the Remote Assistant software for the K10D - this necessitates a firmware upgrade. Apart from that there's no new functionality (or, at least, none documented). The Remote Assistant is for Windows only - there's no Mac version. There's also a RAW (PEF) codec for Windows Vista. Is this new? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: M85mm f2.0 bokeh
No he isn't. If you keep the same camera position, and the same aperture (not the same f-stop; the same aperture diameter), and you magnify the central portion of the image from the shorter focal length lens to the same final size as the image from the longer focal length lens the DOF will be the same. The lens focal length doesn't enter into the equation. On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:44:41PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: JCO is correct. Paul On Apr 28, 2007, at 11:02 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Secondly, whether hes making a scientific statement or dogmatic whatever, or just generalizing, its still WRONG, because the DOF isnt kept same OR similar by changing focal lengths if you keep the same camara postion, it **changes*** with focal length if you do that. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:43 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: M85mm f2.0 bokeh Certainly what you state regarding DOF is true. I believe though the writer was not making a dogmatic absolute statement of scientific fact. He was generalizing. As the camera: subject/background ratio wasn't altered, DOF should be SIMILAR for all four lenses. I'm pretty sure he knows that actual DOF is not changed by altering the subjects distance from the focal plane. That's only moving subjects in to, out of, or within the range referred to as DOF. I think he means that the *perceived* DOF will be *similar*, which is true for lenses close to the same focal length used at close to the same aperture. Not the same, but similar. Tom C. From: Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: M85mm f2.0 bokeh Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:26:25 -0400 No,this assumption is wrong, DOF is constant only for same fstop and MAGIFICATION (in camera ). If he used same camera position and fstop and only changed lenses, the shorter lenses will have same perspective in the shots but with MORE Depth of field than the longer lenses. DOF is a function of magnification, NOT the subject/background ratio. Mr. J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: M85mm f2.0 bokeh - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: M85mm f2.0 bokeh Of course the 70 gives you more DOF. Thus, a bit crisper. I left the camera position static and cropped the 70mm and 77mm images to be similar to the 85mm images. As the camera: subject/background ratio wasn't altered, DOF should be similar for all four lenses. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom, Photoshop Album or PS CS2 Bridge to organize?
Don't forget today is the last day for the $199 lightroom pricing On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 06:57:34AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 29, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: I've now transferred my CDs to 2 external hard drives for storage and backup and it's time to organize them. I have PS Album 1 now. Your thoughts: upgrade to Album 2.0, use Photoshop CS2's Bridge, or buy Adobe Lightroom? My primary need is organization, as I use PS CS2 for image adjustment. Lightroom. Bridge is not an organizer and has no ability to manage data that is on an off-line volume. Bridge is a browser and workflow/automation coordinator for the Adobe Creative Suite. Album was never available on Mac OS X anyway so that was never an option for me. Lightroom works exceptionally well as the center of your photographic workflow. It handles import, renaming, organizing (combining into sets, sorting and grading, etc), metadata editing, global editing (cropping, rotation, tonal rendering) and limited spot correction, integrates beautifully with Photoshop CSx and other external editors for higher-level selective editing, and has excellent tools for slide show and print output. It also does web site output although I find its facilities there a little weaker than the rest. I use it extensively, every day, and the more I use it and uncover its subtleties, the more I like it. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Upcoming October PUG and ultimatum
You don't get the heat. Small land masses (such as New Zealand or the UK) have weather that is dominated by ocean temperatures. That's why the UK doesn't have the same climate as Hudson Bay, and NZ is far more temperate than Mexico (or inland Australia). On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:07:03PM -0400, graywolf wrote: An interesting thing I noticed browsing through my Atlas the other day is that Oz is in the same latitude range as Mexico, only south rather than north. I had unthinkingly imagined it being farther south. Gor, I couldn't stand the heat. David Savage wrote: Don't even see it over here. We only have 3 seasons Hot, Mild Wet the plants don't change much, if at all, between them. Up in the north they only have 2, The Wet The Dry season. :-) Cheers, Dave At 06:40 AM 20/09/2007, Brian Walters wrote: True. Six months away here.. :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters Quoting Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You know, it's not even fall yet. rg2 On 9/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Kennedy wrote: Is the size limit still 600 longest side? No, it's not. The upload form limits the photo to 256k. The software I'm currently using will automagically resize the photo to a maximum of 720 on the long side, so you don't need to worry about the actual dimensions of the photo. The current form is here: http://pdmlpug.org/?p=13 I got one! I just have to remember to re-size it at home tonight and send it in. I'd like to get back into the habit of posting PUGs now that that I've gone all digital. -f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Virgin, Creative Commons Flickr Lawsuit
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 08:38:38AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: David Savage wrote: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=76588 Short version: Australia's Virgin Mobile phone company ran an ad campaign using photos from Flickr that had been posted under Creative Commons licensing. One of the people shown in one of the photos is suing. The images have been featured within the positive spirit of the Creative Commons Agreement, a legal framework voluntarily chosen by the photographers, the statement said. True enough, but if there's a person recognizable in the photo, you still need a model release. Even shorter version: Virgin messed up badly! Oh yeah, big time. No release. Sure, they used the photo legally according to its license, but they don't have a model release, and that is going to bite them in the *ss. I think their lawyers could well argue the fault lies with the original publisher (who in this case would be the photographer). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Image repair
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 10:40:31PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: John Graves wrote: Mike, If only the world worked the way we think it should. My brother found the obit in the Boston Public Library as a microfilm copy of the paper. The Library doesn't retain newspapers after they have been microfilmed. The film company does the filming in return for copy rights and supplies the Library with a copy of the film at no charge. John G. Ah. You seem to be suffering from philistine (not to mention catastrophically stupid) librarians. I'm sure the librarians would *love* to retain paper copies indefinitely. Unfortunately in the real world somebody has to pay for all that climate controlled storage spage, and what the librarians would like to do doesn't come very high on the list of spending priorities. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? As far as the Pentax Gallery goes - I didn't submit originally for a couple of reasons; my first attempt didn't work (because I was trying to submit a scanned image, and there was a bug in their validation code), and I never got round to writing a bio. Now, after hearing of all the various problems others are having, I doubt if I'll bother to submit anything (and I *still* haven't written a bio). On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 10:07:05PM +0100, Bob W wrote: How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the stream. For are they not one, the archer, the target and the arrow? Are they not avatars of each of us, and we of them? Your hand must not know that it has released the bowstring, it must slip from you as melting snow slips from the bamboo leaf. Then surely the bow, the string, the arrow, the archer and the target are one. Hope that helps. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: how subjective is this standard? Same as all competitions: Very. Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not agree with their choices, but teaching myself (or trying to teach myself!) to achieve what they're after makes me push myself as a photographer. I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that please just myself. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? There's no explanation as to the criteria to get past the accepted artists' voting: How many votes are required to be accepted or rejected? What percentage of yes votes is required for acceptance? and even then, it states clearly that those that get past the first screening can be rejected outright by the Pentax Panel. We don't know who those people are, and what they're looking for. It's all very closed door, which to me makes it something of a crap-shoot. I'm not sure how submitting many photos and having them all rejected makes me a better photographer. It rather just leaves me scratching my head, and thinking that if I want feedback or reaction, this isn't the place for me. Some may find this sort of exercise very valuable, but I don't. I mean, hey, no hard feelings. Pentax can run this thing any way they want; it's their contest. However, if this is the way they choose to run it, my choice is to not participate. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: butts
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 03:43:38PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 3:09 PM, John Francis wrote: Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? I knew that they were, but I still don't know why. Godfrey It was a sort of trick question. There's a fairly widespread faux etymology that claims it's derived from using the end of wine barrels as targets, but the OED gives no credence to this. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 03:01:38PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Tom C wrote: On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical droppings from the rear of a bull,snip Bob, You've got a way with words... ;-) cheers, frank I saw the mystical droppings from the rear of a dog lying on the sidewalk yesterday and almost took a picture of it because it looked like art. Then I decided it stunk. Tom C. I always photograph shit with a telephoto lens. Oh, I don't know - you're not *that* bad ... :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 14 mm vs Tamron 14 mm
Add another voice in support of this lens for fun shots. I got a chance to borrow the predecessor - the F 17-28 - at a PDML meet back in the days of film, so When I got the K10D I also bought the DA 1-17. Here's a shot from a trip to Seattle last week: http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/blackbird.jpg and for comparison here's a similar shot taken with the DA 18-55 http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/blackbird2.jpg On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 01:43:08PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'll second Dave's opinion: it is weird but definitely a fun lens... and remarkably sharp. G On Sep 30, 2007, at 12:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I got to handle one of those on a K10D not long ago. It's most likely the only DA lens I'm seriously thinking of getting. DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 10mm, shooting distance about 6 inches from http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP7094.jpg (damn this is a fun little lens) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Kim and Tony's Wedding
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 12:04:23PM +, mike wilson wrote: From: Evan Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/30 Sun PM 09:39:41 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Kim and Tony's Wedding My brother in-law Tony got married yesterday. It's hard to believe that when my wife and I were married he was only 9. Of course I brought my camera and snapped a few candids. http://picasaweb.google.com/evanrhanson/KimandTonysWedding I see the tide was in there, too. http://picasaweb.google.com/evanrhanson/KimAndTonySWedding/photo#5116108927844279394 I like the two-headed (and triple-breasted) woman on the right ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA70 and 24x36 coverage
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:18:49PM +0200, Boris Liberman wrote: Godfrey, I find it incredibly strange that Pentax produced DA 40 and DA 70 that cover full frame (presumably, but most probably so) obviously knowing it and not having advertised it in any way. Why? The lenses work just fine with all camera bodies Pentax currently sell. I doubt if they've even been tested on an old film body to see whether they vignette, or whether the corner resolution meets whatever criteria Pentax use. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Two by Timmy's
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:57:32PM -0400, Steve Desjardins wrote: The cups look like they are actually attached at some odd angle. For some reason, I'm reminded of the Daleks in the old Dr. Who series. Stuff just stuck onto inverted trash cans at odd angles. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/DalekatBrighton.jpg It has been a long day. . . . Anorak Actually, that's a Dalek from the *new* Dr. Who series. The most obvious clue is the colour scheme of the background banner, which uses the blue, purple and orange of the new series logo. But there are also several differences in the design of the Dalek model itself, most notably the wider, bevelled base with the small raised dots. /Anorak Here are a couple of the latest-design Daleks, with company .. http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/daleks.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: putting old lenses on digital cameras
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:08:37PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: The conversion is 1.6 times for the small Canon bodies, so take your 28, multiply by 1.6 and you have the equivalent in 35mm terms (Which is 45mm or so). And it's all because the sensor is smaller than a 35mm frame of film, not because of the space the adaptor takes up. The conversion applies to all lenses and doesn't change. And it doesn't affect DoF, it's really just like a crop out of the centre of the 35mm frame. Well, sort of. Maybe. *If* you keep your final print/viewing size the same as a cropped portion of the full print from that 35mm frame, then the DOF doesn't change. But if you enlarge then central cropped portion to the size of the full image you're changing the magnification, and so you'll also see a change in DOF. Roughly speaking you need to open up about one stop wider in the DSLR to get the depth of field that matches a comparable shot from a 35mm camera, when looking at full-frame images (using different focal length lenses). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: happiness is a CANTAX or an PENTON - thank you COTTY!
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:50:59PM +0100, Cotty wrote: On 03/10/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: you can play with mine sometime if you like hey big fella that's the best offer I've had all day That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Hidden Bridge
On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:01:14AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: On Oct 4, 2007, at 0:18, John Celio wrote: Good point about the foreground. Someone else mentioned clearing the branches from the river. That idea both intrigues and repulses me. On the one hand, it might make the image better, drawing attention away from the cluttered foreground. On the other hand, I'm not sure I like the idea of changing a scene I stumble upon. It kind of bothers me. I'm 100% with you on this one, John. It depends on the context, if you ask me. If what you do is something that might have been done anyway (such as, say, tidying up some litter in the hedgerow) then I'd have no problem with it. So, in this case, if the Park Ranger would consider removing the branches I'd say it would be OK to save him (or her) some work, while at the same time creating a different image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Transparent Vulture
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:56:11PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: Was visiting the local State Wildlife Area (Gray Lodge) earlier today. Nearly directly overhead sun lighting up the larger flight feathers of a California Turkey Vulture. (Considerable cropping). http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=237 K10D, FA 80x320(@ about 250), 100 ISO Comments gladly received. Jack A different look. I believe the word you want is translucent, though, not transparent. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 11:10:50AM -0400, graywolf wrote: The issue with copyrights, trademarks, and patents is that they have been ordained as property by law thus extending the same property rights to them. And because of that they have to be registered with the government before the courts will hear the case. That is incorrect. But the copyright must be registered before the copyright violation can be prosecuted as a criminal (as opposed to civil) offence, and if the copyright is not registered you can only be awarded actual (rather than punitive) damages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:23:09AM -0400, Rebekah wrote: I don't see how this guy making money off of the photographs could be considered damages. They certainly didn't lose any money just because he made some . . . That's the argument used to justify file sharing, software copying, etc. And even if it were true (which it isn't) it's irrelevant - the rule isn't if you make money, you have to share - it's only the person who owns the rights is entitled to make money; if he doesn't give you permission then you can't do anything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - macro flower
In and out? I see it load at low resolution first, and then get replaced by the higher-resolution image. This is the usual way to show a progressive .JPG (it's just about the only reason for the format) On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 05:36:55PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Nice photo. Is it supposed to pulse in and out between two resolutions like that? G On Oct 9, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: This is one of my first macro attempts. P645, 120 Macro, Provia 100. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/ photo#5119497365061190178 Thanks for looking. Comments, critiques and general cries of anguish are all appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2008 PUG themes - revised
Err, no. He's quoting a Yule Tide carol. On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:33:43AM -0600, William Robb wrote: Perhaps it shouldn't, but you are trying to make your point by quoting a Christmas carol. William Robb - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: 2008 PUG themes - revised I'm not Christian, either, and Tis the Season shouldn't necessarily invoke a Christian theme. Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus, Yule, Ramadan all occur near the end of the calendar year, during the holiday season. Plus, for those of us in the northern hemisphere, there are snow covered landscapes, one horse open sleighs, decorated trees and wreaths (pagan icons, originally), etc. Those of us up north would also most likely be more than appreciative of December beach photos from the folks down under at that time of year. Deck the halls with boughs of holly, Fa la la la la, la la la la. 'Tis the season to be jolly, Fa la la la la, la la la la. Don we now our gay apparel, Fa la la, la la la, la la la. Troll the ancient Yule tide carol, Fa la la la la, la la la la. See the blazing Yule before us, Fa la la la la, la la la la. Strike the harp and join the chorus. Fa la la la la, la la la la. Follow me in merry measure, Fa la la, la la la, la la la. While I tell of Yule tide treasure, Fa la la la la, la la la la. Fast away the old year passes, Fa la la la la, la la la la. Hail the new, ye lads and lasses, Fa la la la la, la la la la. Sing we joyous, all together, Fa la la, la la la, la la la. Heedless of the wind and weather, Fa la la la la, la la la la. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT More problems for Roos
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 01:42:37PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Oh, how wonderful, maybe it'll start a war and they'll kill each other off, thus helping the with the population problem and bringing peace to the rest of us. That ought to be short. I doubt the greenpeace guys are armed. Cue story about kangaroos vs. helicopters: http://tafkac.org/faq2k/antipodean_2064.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - A shot from the NorCal Renaissance Fair(e)
http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/RennFaire.jpg Not my usual style of shot at all, but I rather like it ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Downtown I
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 03:47:01PM -0600, Tom C wrote: A few shots from a short detour in downtown Dallas after work. Lot's of good architecture. Very little captured here. Not my normal stuff of course. http://photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=358322 You need to detour into the city more often. That's an impressive gallery from just one short detour. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Slightly OT: Right clicked images find there way home
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 10:53:57AM -0400, graywolf wrote: Sad story, Dave. The only way I have found to keep people from stealing your images off the internet, is to not have them on the internet. Unfortunately the web was never intended to be secure, it was developed by academics for academics which in this commercial age folks tend to forget. I have not looked into it but it may be possible to do something with PHP (as an alternative to Flash or Javascript), after all a lot of the secure websites seem to be done in it. It isn't. Basically, if I can view your image on the screen, I can grab a copy of it. All you can do is make it harder for me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...
It's nothing to do with the age of the aircraft, and everything to do with choices made by the aircraft operator. Just what is provided in the way of services at each seat depends on what the operator specifies, but just about every aircraft being flown today could provide payphone service if the operator so desired; the cabins are all wired, and there is rack-mountable equipment that can easily handle a few hundred phone handsets. My guess is that it simply wasn't being used, and the space taken up by the handset could be used to provide other options (such as a seatback TV screen) that were more desirable to the end user. Nowadays, as some have noted, you can get a phone integrated into the hand-held controller for the seatback entertainment system, but that's still an expensive option, and one that could well be made obsolete in a year or two by services such as in-flight WiFi or even allowing use of cellphones during flight, both of which are being tested by a few operators today. On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 01:11:45PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: David, While you are right about the interference reason, the second statement, I believe, is not accurate. I am not sure how long ago you have flown, but the trend I see is that those phone are removed from the modern aircrafts. As a matter of fact, none of the aircrafts I've flown this year (over 40 flights on American, Continental, Delta, Finnair, Frontier, Southwest, S7, Estonian Air) had built-in phones. Igor Sun Oct 14 11:31:48 EDT 2007 David Savage wrote: What? Terrorists? Airliners are concerned about the possibility of radio/navigation equipment interference, hence the shielding reference. That's why every seat on most modern aircraft have built in payphones. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 06:54:15PM -0700, John Celio wrote: How do you decide what to cut and what to keep when you've shot more than one good photo of a subject? Assuming you feel like all or most of the photos of said subject are good, how do you distance yourself from your personal attachment to your work or subject, in order to objectively edit it all down to something more manageable than (for instance) the big ol' gallery I posted over the weekend? Objectivity is the goal, I think. How do you achieve it? It's not really all that hard, is it? You just need to group the shots into roughly similar classes, and then only select the best one (or, possibly two) shots from each group, unless there is an overwhelming reason for including more than that. On your Fleet Week gallery, for example, you probably only need one shot of Team Oracle, one shot of the marine helicopters, etc. Similarly, you don't need fifteen or sixteen shots of the Blue Angels in formation, flying across the frame, where the only real differences are the number of planes in the shot, and whether or not smoke is on. Two examples would probably suffice. Similarly, you really don't need four different crossover shots. I'd edit the Blue Angels images down to a couple of multi-plane with smoke trail shots, the almost perfect crossover, the four stacked tail on shot, and a couple of others. That, together with Team Oracle, the helicopters, and two or three free choices would give you a gallery of ten to twelve images - about right for the average viewer. If you know you are presenting to an audience with a particular interest in the subject you can double the number of images in the gallery, but even then going beyond a couple of dozen images is overdoing it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan
Indeed. In fact I'm thinking about getting a Garmin GPS unit that also incorporates an MP3 player, and which understands the audio book format. Mind you, I'll still buy some things on actual CDs - I'm too much of an old fogey to be entirely happy with electronic-only media delivery. And while it takes a little while to rip all sixty-odd CDs of the unabridged Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, you only have to do it once (and find 2.5GB of space for it). On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 05:07:12PM -0400, cbwaters wrote: Books on tape work really well for passing time on the road :) Audible.com CW - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan Thanks Mark and everyone else. Back from a 1 day trip here locally, and now i find out, a possible trip monday to Janesville Wis. Escort a conveyor. Follow all the way, which is good, cause my only US driving experinces so far are following MR to GFM.:-0 Just might get that Chigaco street line form the window.:-) I';ll bring some blues CD;s to pass the time. Dave On 10/16/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave - I'm about 45 minutes from GR and Holland. The waterfront in Holland offers a lot of good photo ops. The city is built around a good sized lake that connects to Lake Michigan. There is a pretty distinctive lighthouse - 'Big Red' where the lakes join. The lighthouse is on the south side of the channel, but is best shot from the north, looking across the channel. There's a state park there with some low dunes, woods, beach stuff. Grand Haven, about 30 minutes to the north, has a good size lighthouse as well. Very nice boardwalk along the beach that runs along another channel from the renovated city center all the way through another good sized state park. There's a Coast Guard station there and the opportunity to catch the cutters in action. To the south of Holland - another half hour - is Saugutuck, an artsy lakefront community with one of the biggest and nicest beaches / lake shore parks in the state. Weather along the lake is always unpredictable. There is little color change here so far this year - very late season this year. The woods along the lake always change late - so I doubt that you'll see many peak color areas next week. I was shooting in the Allegan Forest yesterday - it pushes right up within 20 miles of Holland. Aside from the sumac and some weedy trees, it was as green as late July. Here's a shot of the Holland lighthouse - http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/020901.htm And Grand Haven - http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/0308l01.htm Oh yeah - sunsets along the lake can be nice as well. - MCC --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a chance i will be going to Grand Rapids, more specifically Holland, Michigan for an escort trip to Sault Ste Marie next week, and then points beyond back in Canada. Probably no time to visit, but, camera worthy area? :-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Mark Cassino Photography Kalamamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com Photo Books: www.lulu.com/cassino -- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 9:38 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
Re: SMCPA* 200/2.8
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 03:00:02PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: I've tentatively decided to bu this lens as it is the perfect length and speed for shooting Hockey games from my preferred vantage point at the ice in Anaheim, CA (Ducks). Any comments regarding this lens would be greatly appreciated. The A* 200/2.8 was my first foray into good glass. I've still got it, and with the smaller sensor of the DSLRs it's getting a fair bit more use, especially paired with the AF 1.7x adapter. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMCPA* 200/2.8
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 06:45:25AM +0100, Peter Fairweather wrote: The A* 200/2.8 was my first foray into good glass. I've still got it, and with the smaller sensor of the DSLRs it's getting a fair bit more use, especially paired with the AF 1.7x adapter Oddly enough I am thinking of selling this combination. My eyesight is not up to manual focus and I have the FA* 300 for the longer length. That's why it's often paired with the 1.7x AF adapter - my eyes aren't up to manual focus, either. Plus, of course, I've got the 80-200/f2.8 which covers me up to 200mm - albeit at a substantial weight penalty - and allows me to use any auto-focus point; the AF adapter limits me to only using the central AF point, which can sometimes be a problem. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
As Paul says, Almost. To my eye it's a bit of camera shake (which is why the rear of the car is slightly blurred), plus the change in angle during the shot which makes the front of the car even more blurred than the rear). A K10D would help cut down on the camera shake :-) I assume the vignetting is a deliberate editing step; I think you should either mask it considerably more, or omit that step. Just for fun, I played around with the image a little: http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/adams_porsche.jpg On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:26:52PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Almost. Either a bit out of focus or a bit too much camera shake. Probably the latter as I can't quite find a focal point. Paul On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Caught this on the way home with the new DS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/1607393214/ Large/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1607393214_58f37cb487_b.jpg *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/60, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ISO 800. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 03:46:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: A few days ago Mike J had a really interesting historical tale of camera marketing and product lines: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2007/10/in-the-early-19.html Apropos of nothing: I just love the fact that in the sponsor advertisements at the left of the screen How to Shoot RAW is immediately followed by artistic nudes -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:21:49PM -0600, Tom C wrote: I can't see non-645 owners jumping to a 645D in masses. The 645D would be a low volume seller compared to a 24 x 36 FF body. . . That's a big assumption; I'm by no means convinced you are right. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 10:06:18AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what Adam has told us about the newest sensors, 12 megapixels with good noise characteristics might well be possible at 1.5. Could be. But every so often I look at what Nikon's getting from 12 megapixels at full-frame... They're getting (or will soon be getting) around $4500, IIRC. That's not Pentax's playing field. I won't be basing any future purchasing decisions on megapixel count. Nor, I suspect, will most Pentax customers. I'm sure there will be an increase (to at least 12MP), but I rarely find even 10MP a problem. I'm much more interested in low noise at higher speeds. I don't really care how that is achieved, either - I certainly wouldn't pay a premium for a FF body greater than the cost of, say, the 12-24 DA zoom. I'm more interested in frame rate and buffer size, which are in some way antithetical to higher pixel counts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 07:25:12PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: pnstenquist I went on a Saab press junket to Sweden in 1981. Saab engineers demonstrated the Viggens short takeoff distance. It was truly amazing how quickly it got off the ground. The Swedish air force parked them in camouflaged hangers alongside highways. They were capable of taking off on a short stretch of two-lane blacktop. And supposedly the original law establishing the US Interstate Highways required one mile out of every five to be straight and level so it could become an ad hoc runway for the USAF in the event of nuclear war. Urban legend.http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp Why does Hawaii have INTERSTATE highways? I mean, what other states can you drive to from Hawaii? ;-D Because that way the feds pay for them, not the locals. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens purchase saga
Remember the old maxim: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. It's standard practice for Adorama (and also for several other mail-order suppliers) to cancel an order if they are unable to fulfil the order within the originally-estimated timeframe. In theory you get an email message alerting you shortly before the order is cancelled, giving you options on how to proceed. But if that email goes astray the order just vanishes. On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 11:16:49PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: I have had generally good success with both. Adorama has tended to have better selection of Pentax gear in the last few years. What got me steamed about my recent experience is that they arbitrarily cancelled my order and, even worse in my mind, did not let me know. I was not too surprised about the cancellation. My confirmed (?) order was for the lens at a price which was $60 or so less than the current discount-photo price. I was mildly surprised that they honored the original price with the DA* 50-135. But what I did expect, what I expect from any company with good customer service, would have been an email along the lines of: we regret that we cannot fill your order at the original price due to Pentax pricing changes in the period since you first placed the order. Please confirm that you still want the lens at the new price = $xxx.xx. Instead they just cancelled the order. stan On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I've never dealt with Adorama. For some reason, they've always seemed a rather odd outfit to me. The folks at BH get most of my business. I've dealt with both. There's not a fig's worth of difference between them. Both offer a fairly good selection and both give good service. I've had the occasional problem with either one, but always had the problem resolved to my satisfaction. If I can't find something I need from a local dealer (like to keep those local dealers in business in case I need 'em later), I won't hesitate to purchase from either Adorama or BH. Sometimes one has the better price, sometimes the other does. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 01:33:45PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 18, 2007, at 1:14 PM, frank theriault wrote: Can we talk about the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter? Please Bob? There's a plane that is gorgeous. The B-58 Hustler gives me goosebumps too. That was the most beautiful aircraft ever designed, IMHO. Okay, there's the Spitfire, but it's the most beautiful (and dangerous looking) jet was (and is) the Starfighter. The Starfighter is beautiful, but my personal favorite has been the SR-71 Blackbird since I first saw a picture of one over 35 years ago. Godfrey See my response to this thread in the PDML. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:14:26PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On 10/18/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we talk about the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter? Please Bob? There's a plane that is gorgeous. The B-58 Hustler gives me goosebumps too. That was the most beautiful aircraft ever designed, IMHO. Okay, there's the Spitfire, but it's the most beautiful (and dangerous looking) jet was (and is) the Starfighter. I don't know - I think there's quite a bit of competition for that title. See http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0745 for one of my favourites. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sunit Viper
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 12:33:04PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote: Adam Maas wrote: A Viper before sunset: http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/1673348246/ Larger/Direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2348/1673348246_129bcc621a_b.jpg *istDS, 18-55 DA, ISO400, 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] O - That kind of viper sigh ann hoped for a beastie :) It's the kind of viper I expected. Definitely an improvement on the panning technique. Unfortunately the car is moving too slowly for the selected shutter speed, so most of the sensation of moving is lost - the car could just be parked there. Motion blur with short focal lengths is hard; the change of angle from the start to the end of the shot mean you can't get the front and back of the car crisp, even when the central area is nicely sharp. This is also a shot where some (diffuse) fill flash would probably help; the visible part of the primary subject is almost totally in shadow. Beyond that, I'm not sure. There's nothing really wrong with the shot, but it doesn't do anything for me, either. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:48:17PM -0600, Tom C wrote: With the caveat regarding who knows about Pentax?... I'd take a full frame sensor that did very well between 200 - 400 ISO any day (ISO 800) w/b nice, over any sensor that had marginal high ISO performance at 1600 and above. I find any photo I take at 1600 or higher with the *ist D to be, while documentary, not worth a heck of alot otherwise. I am loathe to set ISO over 800. That's precisely why I want a DSLR with good high ISO performance. There are many situations (stage performances, night races, etc.) where high ISO is what I want. Long exposures are useless when trying to photography moving objects (cars, or even just singers). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Simply Shocking
You get less electrons with 220v, but they're more excited. On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 04:51:50PM +0200, Thibouille wrote: We have 220 volts a well and we have two tiny little metal plugs. Weird... poor plugs... so many electrons... :D 2007/10/23, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rick, Their plugs are all that big because of the 220 volt service. None of that puny 110 volt electricity for them. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On 10/23/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a British recall. All British electrical goods have huge honkin' three-prong plugs, big enough to carry the current for a small city. Rick --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this recall notice a couple days ago, but didn't check my three pin plug cord 'til this AM. I find a two pin for the battery charger, but no three pin. Owner's manual doesn't show such.(?) Did I get shorted..again? ;-)) Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off another Pentax list... http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/10861/11885/Pentax-issues-product-recall-statement.phtml 22 October 2007 16:18 GMT - Pentax has issued a product recall statement, saying that they have been made aware that a small percentage of the three-pin plug cords provided with some of its cameras may have a manufacturing defect, despite having been supplied to Pentax with full British and European safety accreditation. This recall applies to specific products sold after the 20th November 2006. Products potentially affected are: * Optio A20 * Optio T20 * Optio W20 * Optio S7 * Optio L20 * K10D Customers are being asked to check the plug cords of cameras that fit these criteria. To identify a potentially faulty plug cord, customers should check the rear of the three-pin plug cord by holding it by the end with the three pins and turning the pins to face away from them. If the box containing text says Approved BSI KM 45980 they should cease use and contact the Pentax helpline on 0800 2889410 for a replacement cord which will be sent immediately. The helpline will also arrange for the customer to return the recalled cord free of charge. David Moore, managing director of Pentax UK comments, We apologise for inconvenience caused to our customers whilst we take this precautionary measure. Pentax takes the safety and quality of the products it sells very seriously and it spends a considerable amount of time and effort ensuring that the products it sells meet all relevant regulations and standards. Further information can be found at ww.pentax.co.uk/plugcord Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Impressive image -- fires in So. California.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 06:43:36AM +0800, David Savage wrote: On 10/24/07, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people may have heard about new fires in Southern California. Fires are burning in Malibu, Orange County, and San Diego and county. Here is a very impressive picture: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/CAfires_from_space.jpg Very cool (although not if your in it's path) I was just wondering last night after seeing the latest reports. Do they (state land management department) do prescribed burning cut firebreaks earlier in the year before the start of the fire season? Not a lot - that would take money, and California has budget issues. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Starfighters Co.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:35:07AM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: Adam Maas wrote: There's only 2 flying Lanc's, 1 in the UK and one here in Canada, based out of Hamilton, about an hour west of Toronto. A beautiful bird, but small by todays standards. Yeah, I think there's only one Flying Fortress (B-17) left flying, in the Confederate Air Force of all places. IIRC, their B-24 crashed a couple of years ago and was a total loss. I don't believe you're right. The Collings Foundation have a B-17, B-24 and B-25 in their Wings of Freedom flight, and they claim there are currently fourteen B-17s in flyable condition in the USA. The B-24, though, is apparently the only one flying. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Impressive image -- fires in So. California.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:45:19PM +0800, David Savage wrote: At 01:38 PM 24/10/2007, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 06:43:36AM +0800, David Savage wrote: I was just wondering last night after seeing the latest reports. Do they (state land management department) do prescribed burning cut firebreaks earlier in the year before the start of the fire season? Not a lot - that would take money, and California has budget issues. I wonder what the cost of battling out of control bush fires is doing to the state budget? Look - you know, and I know, that money spent on preventative measures saves many times the cost. But you can't persuade politicians to think in the long term - they only care about dollars being spent today. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Starfighters Co.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 06:53:13PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: Adam Maas wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: Adam Maas wrote: If you want a great sounding bird, very little beats a Lancaster, with it's 4 Merlins. I've never been near a running Lanc, though I've seen them on static display several times. I have had a B-17 and B-24 go overhead at around 1,000 feet. Heard them coming and going for _miles_. Nothing really sounds like a four-piston-engined bird. There's only 2 flying Lanc's, 1 in the UK and one here in Canada, based out of Hamilton, about an hour west of Toronto. A beautiful bird, but small by todays standards. Small but effective. I think it has three or four times the payload capacity of the B17. No armour except for the cockpit The Lancaster could (when stripped down) carry as much as a 22,000lb bomb. That was about three times the payload of a B17. To put thing in perspective - modern strike fighters such as the F-16 or the Eurofighter have a payload of 14,000lb or so - something like 80% of the normal payload of an unmodified Lancaster, or twice what a B17 could carry. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Starfighters Co.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 05:39:36PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On 10/24/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the B-25 only had 28 cylinders, while the Lancaster had 48. But it always seemed that the radials sort of rumbled while the v-12's sort of snarled. The one that always sent shivers up my spine was the Beech 18 (C-45) throttled back with the 9 cyl PW R-985 engines slightly out of sync. I'd have loved to have heard a B17 at full throttle. Chances of that are pretty slim these days... They have the throttles pretty much wide open during take-off, so all you need to do is get to one of the airshows where a B-17 will be flying. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seattle suggestions?
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 04:59:07PM -0700, skye pdml wrote: both ferries leave from approx the same place (side by side) as can be shown at wsdot.wa.gov/ferries and are timed so that you can often take photos of the one ferry from the other ferry. Bainbridge ferry (35-40min?) takes less time than bremerton ferry (60 min). You might also try one of the argosy cruises. I'll second that - the two most recent shots in my Picture-A-Week gallery http:///www.jfwaf.com/PAW were taken on the mid-day Argosy Locks cruise, which lasts 2.5 hours or so. You also get a good look at the Seattle skyline towards the end of the cruise (or towards the beginning if you choose a different departure time). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seattle suggestions?
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:10:12PM -0400, John Francis wrote: http:///www.jfwaf.com/PAW Make that http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seattle suggestions?
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 05:22:29PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: Dang, John, there are some really nice shots there; and unless I'm mistaken you've kept most of them closely guarded secrets! Why, thank you. There's no secret - I try and update the gallery every weekend - but because they're mostly snapshots I rarely mention them on the PDML unless (like the shot of Petunia at the end of September) I feel I've achieved something a little more than that. Does the Bremerton ferry give you more worthwhile scenery for the extra 20 min each way? I'm afraid I can't help you there. Both my shots from the locks cruise (and a whole lot more besides) came on a single day I had to myself in Seattle after a business trip - as I wasn't prepared to get up in time for a 6:30am flight I had to take one at 8:30pm. Fortunately, as you can see, I had great weather. --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 04:59:07PM -0700, skye pdml wrote: both ferries leave from approx the same place (side by side) as can be shown at wsdot.wa.gov/ferries and are timed so that you can often take photos of the one ferry from the other ferry. Bainbridge ferry (35-40min?) takes less time than bremerton ferry (60 min). You might also try one of the argosy cruises. I'll second that - the two most recent shots in my Picture-A-Week gallery http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/ were taken on the mid-day Argosy Locks cruise, which lasts 2.5 hours or so. You also get a good look at the Seattle skyline towards the end of the cruise (or towards the beginning if you choose a different departure time). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Today I was a naughty boy...
Ain't that the truth! Some people probably aren't used to the shallow DOF of a f2.8 lens. What would they do with a f1.4? On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 02:15:40PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't remember a lens introduction that didn't result in complaints from the photographically challenged few :-). Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interested on your report. Several Pentaxforum members are reporting soft images, but that could be just them, their set up etc. Dave On 10/25/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/tsk%20tsk%20tsk/naughty.htm :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Barmaid
That's a good question - it's always worth finding good beers. It appears that several of use like this type of capture: here's my contribution from July of this year: http://www.jfwaf.com/July2007/image.php?name=Trip01 (the pub is the World's Wonder in Kent, near Ashford) For a more American-style atmosphere, try the last shot in that same gallery (taken a couple of weeks later): http://www.jfwaf.com/July2007/image.php?name=Trip30 The beer's not as good, but the oysters are much better! On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 06:58:24AM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: Great beer selection, and the photo shows it well. I wish it showed a lot more of the beer and the glass, though. Just in case I ever get to TO, what establishment is this? Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took this a couple of weeks ago, but Derby's Glorious Beer inspired me to post it. http://tinyurl.com/2ncypz Like Derby's just a snap... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentac Da 12-24 or Sigma 10 -20
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:13:13AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 25, 2007, at 8:42 AM, William Robb wrote: ... A 14mm lens on an APS-C format camera isn't all that ultrawide. It's matter of accommodation and perspective. 91 diagonal degrees is pretty darn ultrawide to me, it's just that I shoot with the 14mm and 21mm so much of the time it *seems* relatively normal. I remember when 84 diagonal degrees ... 24mm lens on 35mm format ... seemed ridiculously exaggerated and wide. :-) Godfrey I hear you. For the first five or so years my kit consisted of just the 50mm lens I bought with my SP II, augmented by a cheap 80-200. A year or two after I switched to K-mount I did buy a 28mm at the same time as replacing the 80-200 with the much nicer M version. And, for many years, that was as wide as I could go. Eventually (maybe 10 years ago) I picked up a Vivitar 21-35, and found that sufficed for the few occasions I wanted something wider than 50mm. Then, with the K10D, I picked up the kit 18-55 (to give me a light walking-around combination on the *ist-D) and the 10-17 (which I had wanted ever since it was announced; I'd had a chance to try the 17-28 on a film body on the first NorCal PDML get-together, and thought it was a lot of fun). So for the last year I've had more wide angle cqapabilities than ever before in my life. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Today I was a naughty boy...
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:24:01AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 25, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:55, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Only thing I would nitpick about is that I think they should have put the zoom ring where the focus ring is and vice versa ... I keep finding myself grabbing the wrong one. Looking at the photos, it appears that zoom is the ring closest to the body, and focus is out at the end of the lens. You'd really want it the other way 'round? Yes. At very least the width of the rings should be reversed. With modern cameras and lenses, one tends to use the zoom ring more than the focus ring, it should be the one that your hand and fingers naturally fall on. The 16-50 telescopes as it zooms ... you're holding the lens with your fingers on the zoom ring close to the body as the lens extends and changes the balance of the camera/lens package. I find that awkward. When I use the focusing ring, I've already set the focal length and am making critical focus adjustments, so the package will not change balance and I can deal with a narrower ring that's a little more awkward to get to. With the 50-135, the ring placement is the same but the lens neither telescopes nor shifts on zooming, and the zoom ring is at least double the width of the 16-50, so it feels much more natural in use. As I said, this is relatively nitpicky criticism of these lenses. I haven't taken the 50-135 out for a real spin yet but I plan to soon. It's the one of the two that appeals to me as an adjunct to my essential kit of primes. Godfrey I'm much happier with the current scheme. Although I don't (yet) own any of the DA* zooms, I'd find it really annoying if the relative placement of the zoom and focus controls differed from that on FA*s. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Half-Victory Sign
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 04:00:30PM -0400, Christian wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I've again picked up this thread and probably skipping over this comment offered by others, me too but it was always obvious to me that the V formed by holding up the middle and index fingers signified a V for victory. It depends on which direction the palm is facing. Facing towards the person you are gesturing to it is V for victory. If the back of your hand is facing the person it means f-you derived from the archer thing mentioned before. It's a nice story, but one with no basis in fact. It's always worth checking snopes.com when you come across this kind of thing, and a quick search for archers turns up the following: http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.asp -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rose
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 11:59:51PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the lighting it was quite simple. I just put f/11 to put a background into dark, and 360 flash with the little white plate (it is called 'catch light' in the manual as I remember) brings the flower from the dark. Hmmm. I don't have the 360, but I have the Sigma EF-500 (?). It has a little flip out diffuser for the head. I wonder if that's the same sort of thing you recall the manual describing as a 'catch light'. No - they're different. The 540 has both a diffuser panel (for use with wide angle lenses) and a catch light plate (for use when you're using the tilt head to bounce flash off the ceiling); it reflects a small amount of the flash output towards the subject so you get some highlights. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Halloween and the Curse of Cheap Glass
I agree. I've got to get myself a decent tripod before I try again - my attempts show too much camera shake. On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:21:49AM -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: Well, it is a better moon than I have ever done and I have even cheaper glass than you do for that kind of thing. Nice shot. -- Bruce Friday, October 26, 2007, 7:38:54 AM, you wrote: pcn The Halloween precursor full moon crept in last night, and pcn I celebrated with a wee bit of scotch. So I had to try to see if pcn I could get a decent pic with my bargain big glass: the A400/5.6 pcn plus the A2X-S converter. There was some water vapor in the air, pcn so I think I can top this on a perfect night. But this shot is pcn better than the moon I sold through the stock house a couple pcn years ago. Not as good, of course, as the one Ken shot with his pcn gimble mount and FA 600/4. But it comes at less than a tenth of pcn the price. By the way, after shooting, I did a bit of barking and pcn danced naked in the backyard. The neighbors appreciated that. pcn Anyway, here's the moon: pcn http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6569744size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Halloween and the Curse of Cheap Glass
Based on my (possibly faulty) recollection of my attempts - a 600 and a 2x is just about perfect for a 1.5x crop moon shot; you'd really want a little more for film. Stacking a 2x and a 1.4x would probably be about right, although that might add too much optical softness (as well as increasing the exposure time). To my eyes it looks as though the bear shot is focussed on the dandelions in front of the bears; the animals themselves look a little soft (photographically, not physically!). On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 06:24:56PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent. Hope there was a fence between you and that critter. With film, you're still a little short for moon shots with the 400 and a 2X converter. You'd have a pretty heavy crop. A 600 and a 2X would get you in the ballpark. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave. I had the K at one time as well. It was quite good but wouldn't focus close enough to shoot birds. When the D came out, I figured I should sell it and buy an A. That gave me both much closer focus and full auto metering. I think I sold the K for $300 and bought the A for $400. Not a bad exchange. Paul -- Original message -- A good lens for the money, to be sure. I've got a Takumar version of it that pulled this off last summer: http://filebox.ece.vt.edu/~papenfuss/imgp7713.jpg I'd like to get a decent doubler to do another moonshot. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Is this the fate of our childeren
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 02:15:53PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Long rant. You've been warned. I think you may have missed the point, Dave. This is a jab at the unwashed masses who insist on using the internet. Having worked a variety of support jobs, from the lowly DSL help desk to supporting 15,000 internal and about 30,000 external users at a little multi-billion dollar mom-and-pop, I can say that there are people just like this. They want to know why the mouse cable comes out of the back instead of the front of the mouse. They call the monitor the computer, the computer the hard drive, and wonder why the CD tray won't close when they put the second disk in on top of the first. AOL users are by far the worst. Anectdotally, that's not quite right - WebTV seemed to be attracting all the people who were too dumb to be able to handle the complexities of AOL. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oops!
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:17:43PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm What the heck is that thing carrying? It looks like some kind of crane-mounted platform; maybe it's used in places where it would be difficult to erect scaffolding? As the area was closed for maintenance I'd guess it's something they were using for part of the work being done, rather than just being a random piece of equipment in transit over the bridge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Self-Powered Transportation
Yep. Grace looks quite happy, too. On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 06:17:36PM -0400, Bill Owens wrote: It's fantastic to see a child so happy. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Self-Powered Transportation Grace is now strong enough to pedal her trike. It's a chain-driven rear-drive model, so it requires a bit of leg power, but it hauls. Today was the first time she was able to do it without a push. Underway: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6577905size=lg Full Speed Ahead: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6577912size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Few Nov PUG Comments
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:25:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sheep would of course never climb a glacier on their own, since there is nothing to eat. That would probably stop me as well :-). Paul Aah, but if there were sheep there ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
