Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: Has anyone used Zodiac and Seaside to for https?
I forgot to thanks this thread. Thanks Sven for your help, it was very helpful and much appreciated! On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: On Apr 19, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2013 23:46, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Igor, On 18 Apr 2013, at 23:21, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: why? anything i can help with? Well, last time I looked (eons ago), in the C code of the Mac SSL plugin, the certificate was not used/implemented. For starters, follow ZdcPluginSSLSession#certiificate[:] to find the primitive. Then see ihow/if that actually does something and/or is being used - in the C/plugin code. It would be really great if we could fix this. For some reason i was thinking that we already using bundled SSL libs for Mac VM. we are. but I remember there where a problem with certificates and mac... (so plugin works with vanilla ssl library on all platforms). Not true. We should fix that: it worked for windows, don't see why it won't work for Mac. I added this to my todo list. Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org ___ seaside mailing list seas...@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. ___ seaside mailing list seas...@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside ___ seaside mailing list seas...@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0
Hi Norbert, I would move it to its own new repo in SmalltalkHub. Also, I had another problem with RFB and the UIManager. The solution I found was this one: http://samadhiweb.com/blog/2012.11.04.headless.rfb.html I don't like it because I need to change Pharo's base source, but I didn't spend time finding a better solution...I guess there is, though. Best, On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: I've found the problem. There is a FileDirectory access in RFBSession#desktopName. Removing it makes RFB work. The current RFB sources are on Lukas' server. What do we do with that stuff? Move to smalltalkhub? If not I can ask Lukas to give me write permission. Just wanted to ask what kind of behaviour is en vogue this days. Norbert Am 03.05.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name: Esteban, now I can tell that it isn't working for me either. Socket is open and server is running. But there are immediate disconnects when trying to connect to a pharo2.0 image. Did you figure it out? Norbert -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 03.05.2013 um 20:00 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Hi Norbert, I would move it to its own new repo in SmalltalkHub. Ok, but then it goes under my private section, right? you can put it under PharoContributions team. Also, I had another problem with RFB and the UIManager. The solution I found was this one: http://samadhiweb.com/blog/2012.11.04.headless.rfb.html I don't like it because I need to change Pharo's base source, but I didn't spend time finding a better solution...I guess there is, though. The first line of code all my images (deployed on server using RFB) see is UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new. I was going to do that as well. But it is not clear to me WHERE you write that line of code. Because even if you save the image with that, doesn't the image set its own UI manager when booting? So I guess you need to pass around a script when running the image or something? What about adding RFB at startup list and implement #startUp doing UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new. ? Best, With that I don't have problems at all. thanks, Norbert Best, On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: I've found the problem. There is a FileDirectory access in RFBSession#desktopName. Removing it makes RFB work. The current RFB sources are on Lukas' server. What do we do with that stuff? Move to smalltalkhub? If not I can ask Lukas to give me write permission. Just wanted to ask what kind of behaviour is en vogue this days. Norbert Am 03.05.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name: Esteban, now I can tell that it isn't working for me either. Socket is open and server is running. But there are immediate disconnects when trying to connect to a pharo2.0 image. Did you figure it out? Norbert -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Mariano Martinez Peck wrote What about adding RFB at startup list and implement #startUp doing UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new. ? But you don't necessarily always want it to be headful, do you? If the RFB is running, in which case I would not want it to be a UIMorphic? otherwise it simply does not work. Maybe I was not clearthe #startUp I was suggesting would be something like: startUp RFBServer server isRunning ifTrue: [ UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new ] If you have a headless server image, then use RFB to debug, then it seems you would want to subsequently start headless again, and then maybe realize you need to debug more and start Morphic... Could there be a concept of an RFB session, so when a connection is made to the RFB socket, the session is started (including installing the correct UI Manager), and then cleared manually or on shutdown (reinstalling the original manager)... how does that sound? yes, that could be another option. But I don't know if there is a place to hook in there...I should check... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/RFB-in-2-0-tp4685418p4685430.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] FLClassNotFound on materialization
Hernan this may also help as inspiration: http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/Version1.9/Documentation/FormatMigration On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Let me know how you get along. On 01.05.2013, at 07:01, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! Now I get this exception: FLBadVersion: Materialization error. Unexpected stream version 18 where it should be 19. but that's another issue. I will re-serialize the whole thing again, but just wanted to provide some feedback. 2013/4/30 Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/Version1.9/Documentation/Migration?_s=H48DZqhQOi3ii0La_k=vsCCzX7_rCTEGZvS_n20 FLMaterializer newDefault migrateClassNamed: #Point toClass: Coordinate. HTH, Max On 30.04.2013, at 14:42, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if this feature is already implemented? http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-November/056143.html because I have a map of class renames but I don't know how to tell the materializer to serialize and re-materialize with updated names. I am using Fuel 1.8 in Pharo 1.4 (Fuel-MartinDias.685, FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo20-MartinDias.4) Cheers, Hernán -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Where are your package configs for Pharo 2.0
Maybe this shows that we really need the automated process we are looking/wishing since a long time :) On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: I heard about RFB already working on Pharo 2.0 I heard about Seaside 3.0.8 already work in Pharo 2.0 I heard about SandstoneDB is now adopted for Pharo 2.0 I heard about ... already work in Pharo 2.0 ... So please: update your ConfigurationOfXXX and put working configs with a #stable definition for Pharo 2.0 into the writable http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 repo so they show up on Config Browser and can be easily installed. Your packages and projects will never be visible if you hide them on ss, ss3 or SmalltalkHub. Also I hope for a Seaside 3.1 config for Pharo 2.0 which would really be a step forward ... Bye T. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Cannot be recompiled
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (forwarded from pharo-users) Object subclass: #A instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Unclassified'. (Smalltalk at: #A) subclass: #B instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Unclassified'. Object variableSubclass: #A instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Unclassified'. I'm working in the new class builder [1]. It automatically propagates this format change to the subclasses, instead of raising the error like the current class builder does. ie, the class B becomes variable when A becomes variable. Do you agree? What happens if a subclass was already variable but not simple variable, like byte or words? they will be changed? Cheers, Martin [1]: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Slot/ On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In: Object subclass: #A instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Unclassified'. (Smalltalk at: #A) subclass: #B instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Unclassified'. Object variableSubclass: #A instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Unclassified'. --- why do we raise the error B cannot be recompiled? what's the problem with reformatting subclasses automatically? best regards, Martin -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
[Pharo-project] Has anyone used Zodiac and Seaside to for https?
Hi. Let's say I have a seaside running over HTTP with a ZnZincServerAdaptor. Is there a Zodiac adaptor I can use to have my seaside app running over HTTPS? Thanks, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] FTP repo without storing username/pass in ConfigurationOf
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: Mariano, repositorOverrides: does apply to the entire load sequence, so it's not the best option for trying to simply keep your credentials private ... OK. The http repository does not expose user names and works just fine picking up the image based instance with credentials defined so I would expect the ftp repository to behave similarly. + If you want to keep the ftp user private the long term answer is submit a bug against the ftp repository implementation and ask that ftp repositories behave the same as http repositories with respect to credentials. +1 Like I said before, I don't think that Metacello should be in the business of managing credentials and that includes adding features to Metacello whose sole purpose is to make up for a deficiencies elsewhere in the system ... For the short term, you might just change the definition of MCFtpRepositorydescription from: description ^ 'ftp://', user, '@', host, '/', directory to: description ^ 'ftp://', host, '/', directory and your username can be kept private ... I doesn't appear that description is used for anything other than display and comparison purposes ... Yes, this is a very good idea. I will open an issue in the bug tracker. Anyone has an objection? Cheers, Dale - Original Message - | From: Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com | To: metace...@googlegroups.com | Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:35:18 PM | Subject: Re: [Metacello] FTP repo without storing username/pass in ConfigurationOf | | On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: | | Mariano, | | After closer inspection it turns out that for FTP repositories, you must | specify the username to uniquely identify the FTP url. If you specify the | username and leave the password empty in your Metacello spec, things should | work correctly ... | | | Hi Dale, | | Thanks for the gory details, I understood :) | Now I wonder...imagine I don't want to even include the username in the | ConfigurationOf shouldn't the repository override trick work? | Something along the lines of: | | | repository | | repository := MCFtpRepository | host: 'ftp.mydomain.com' | directory: 'myDirectory' | user: 'whatever' | password: 'whatelse'. | version := (ConfigurationOfXX project version: 'xxx'). | version | repositoryOverrides: Array with: repository. | version load. | | just to be sure...#repositoryOverrides: does not propagate to transitive | dependencies right? | | Thanks in advance, | | | | | | Here are the gory details. | | There is code in Metacello that looks like the following: | |description := aSpec description. |(repo := repositories | detect: [:rep | rep description = description ] | ifNone: [ aSpec createRepository ]) ~~ nil |ifTrue: [ repos add: repo ] | | where Metacello is attempting to determine if the repository has already | been created in the image. If the repository exists, then the in-image | credentials are used and you don't have to include user and password in the | Metacello repository spec. | | BTW, if you look at MCRepository= Metacello is basically using the same | algorithm. | | Now if you look at how MCHttpRepository behaves: | |(MCHttpRepository | location: 'http://example.com' | user: 'foo' | password: 'bar') description. | | prints as: | |'http://example.com' | | Notice that the user is excluded from the description. | | Whereas for MCFtpRepository behaves differently: | |(MCFtpRepository | host: 'ftp.mydomain.com' | directory: 'myDirectory' | user: 'whatever' | password: 'whatelse') description. | | prints as: | |'ftp://whate...@ftp.mydomain.com/myDirectory', | | Notice that the `user` is included in the description... | | So if you want an FTP repository to be considered #= to another FTP | repository you must specify the user name ... | | Let me know if this works for you. | | Dale | | - Original Message - | | From: Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com | | To: metace...@googlegroups.com | | Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:55:50 AM | | Subject: Re: [Metacello] FTP repo without storing username/pass in | ConfigurationOf | | | | On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com | wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | and set the username/password there, then Metacello should honor | that | | | (like it does for the HTTP repository) ... so instead of adding | some | | sort | | | of repository override to the load script, simply create the FTP | | repository | | | with username/password inline in your load script. | | | | | | | | | | | | Do you mean that I
[Pharo-project] About sqnappy and LZ4
Hi, I was checking https://github.com/mumez/sqnappy. Some time ago I wrote bindings for LZ4: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~marianopeck/LZ4 Do you know which are the differences? It looks both are intended for the same purpose: speed in decompression/compression over compression ratio. From what I can see in http://fastcompression.blogspot.fr/p/lz4.html it says encoding 555 MB/s decoding 1.80 GB/ while in https://code.google.com/p/snappy/ it says Snappy compresses at about 250 MB/sec or more and decompresses at about 500 MB/sec or more. So...doesn't LZ4 seem to be faster than sqnappy? And I already wrote the bindings for LZ4...so I was wondering that... Best regards, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
[Pharo-project] FTP repo without storing username/pass in ConfigurationOf
Hi all, I have the code of an app in a FTP repo which has username/password. I am doing a ConfigurationOfMyApp now and I would need to define in the baseline something like spec repository: 'ftp.mydomainapp.com ...etc'. I know I have a similar method for also specifying the username/pass. But I don't want that because it means storing the username/pass in the ConfigurationOf code. Sohow can I manage this with metacello? the only thing I found (which I am not sure if it works) is to use repositoryOverride so when I am about to load my project I do a #repositoryOverride: passing as argument a FTP with my username/password. What do you think? best, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] RFB server and 2.0
It worked for me when I tried 2 or 3 weeks ago On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Someone has tried RFB in 2.0? I installed it, but looks like it is not working :( Esteban -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick
shouldn't be better to use the newer paulepulpe or something like that done by Santiago Bragañolo? I guess he did not write it from scratch just because On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:47 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.bewrote: You have been added. Have fun. Like your work BTW Phil 2013/4/9 S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com skrish On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:42 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.bewrote: I can add you to the repo on STH. What's your user? 2013/4/9 S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com *LoggingEvent* *printBasicsOn: aStream aStream nextPutAll: LoggingEvent timestampClass now asString; nextPutAll: ' '; nextPutAll: self levelString; nextPutAll: ' - '; nextPutAll: self messageString* I will like to see the timestamp printed out akin to the log4j output.. Also I had added a Logger class that will allow* multi channel logging*of the same log outputs: transcript, stream , file , socket, based on adding to a loggerCollection class instance variable. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:20 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.bewrote: Hi, No, it didn't. There are missing selectors for DateAndTime and the tests aren't right in the first place. No, didn't change SqueakSource. Anyone is welcome to do so. Also, some FileSystem changes have to occur. Phil 2013/4/9 Paul DeBruicker pdebr...@gmail.com philippeback wrote I've taken the Toothpick source (as mentioned in the Collaboractive book) and put the packages in Smalltalk Hub. There were some things with trimming blanks which I fixed. Now, some tests aren't right (but because they use dates from 2006 and we are in 2013) If someone could look in there, it would be nice. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/Toothpick Phil So just changing from 2006 to 2013 made the tests pass? Thanks for moving the repo. Did you edit the Squeaksource page to point at it? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Toothpick-tp4680310p4680345.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Hot keys in Pharo
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.bewrote: There already a lot that are documented under the little arrow on the top right of the windows, at the bottom. Indeed. I tried to explain that in: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/05/19/pharo-tips-and-tricks/ under title *There is a top-right arrow!* and *Get list of available shortcuts*: Best, Phil 2013/4/8 roberto.mine...@usi.ch roberto.mine...@usi.ch Hi, When I attended PharoConf last week, I've seen that there are many keyboard shortcuts embedded in Pharo that I wasn't aware of (e.g., creating a default initialize message). IMHO it would be cool to collect all such hot keys in a webpage or Wiki since those are really a killer features for developers. Cheers, Roby -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo
Martin, should be manage obsolete always that way (meaning to put such behavior directly inside Fuel)? If not, could be write your awesome code in the Fuel website? Thanks!!! :) On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:26 AM, roberto.mine...@usi.ch roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Martin, your solution is awesome. I've seen the presentation at Pharoconf about setting an analyzer to the serializer and I was thinking in that direction. Thanks a lot, R On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: As Fernando said, probably is better for you to substitute the obsolete class by a ring definition. Look here: http://ws.stfx.eu/OAVG8IXKWOYA Don't need to filein the workaround of my previous email. Martin On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm sorry for my delay. I didn't stop to think a good solution. There were interesting answers before mine. But if it's a prototype... maybe this workaround helps you. I played with this code: http://ws.stfx.eu/HYWM1ZB9R45K (the first time I use the shared workspace :-) if you file in the attached file, it materializes the new A class. But this will be not useful for you, if either: - you don't have the original class at materialization time - you don't want to know if the class was obsolete at serialization time HTH Martin On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Yanni Chiu ya...@rogers.com wrote: On 02/04/13 12:50 AM, roberto.minelli-BHDiRLqP7qo@public.gmane.orgwrote: Is there any way to browse through such references to understand where are they? From an inspector, choose the Explore pointers, making sure you've selected the object that you're trying to understand what is referencing it. It takes trial error, and intuition on which pointers to follow. This method has often been unsuccessful for me. Another approach (my memory is fuzzy), was to put a halt at a suitable place during the Fuel serialization. Then explore the intermediate structures used by Fuel, to try to find out why Fuel thinks it needs to serialize that object. Yet another approach is to put a halt in the Fuel materialization, and explore the intermediate structures used by Fuel. You might even set up a mapping of the obsolete class to some temporary class, which allows Fuel to fully materialize the saved objects. You can then explore the Fuel intermediate structures, as well as the final de-serialized object structure. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus accessor over-generation
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote Since Nautilus is meant to also work without the refactoring engine, I have provided the Analyze menu Maybe it could appear conditionally - only if refactoring is not present - and be called something more similar to Refactoring like Basic Refactoring... +1 I also found confusing Sean observation. Also, sometimes I did have some of the setters/getters before and I didn't like Nautilus would recreate them anyway (without warning me that some of them were already defined). This is problematic when you use lazy getters (getters in which you set something only when nil). Best, - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-accessor-over-generation-tp4679480p4679575.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a Seaside 3.1 Configuration for Pharo 2.0
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys we would like to use seaside to validate the VM and also make sure that Seaside31. works perfectly in Pharo2.0. I saw that some of you have a working configuration. Where can we find it because we would like to publish it in the MetaRepoForPharo20. +. I would love to have working confs for Seaside 3.1, Pier 2 and Magritte 2. Cheers, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Problem downloading packages with Monticello from Smalltalkhub because of setAcceptEncodingGzip
Once I have a problem loading something from SS3 which was a piece of
source code with non-utf8 characters (WideString).
Could it be possible you have some non-utf characters in the source of the
package you are loading?
Cheers,
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.euwrote:
Andrei,
On 21 Mar 2013, at 13:28, Andrei Vasile Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Sven,
I tried all the command from your previous mail and the results are
the same (output bellow).
Thanks for the feedback.
The strange thing is that I can download other files from smalltalkhub
without problems.
What do you mean, that it only fails for that particular mcz file from
StHub in Pharo, but that others are OK ?
That would be very disturbing. Can you give an example of a call that does
work, with the Transcript output, like
ZnClient new
logToTranscript;
setAcceptEncodingGzip;
get: '
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/AndreiChis/AnnouncerCentricDebugger/main/ACD-Tests-AndreiChis.1.mcz
';
response.
2013-03-20 23:17:17 995343 I Wrote a ZnRequest(GET
/mc/AndreiChis/AnnouncerCentricDebugger/main/ACD-Tests-AndreiChis.1.mcz)
2013-03-20 23:17:17 995343 D Sent headers
User-Agent: Zinc HTTP Components 1.0
Accept-Encoding: gzip
Host: www.smalltalkhub.com
Accept: */*
2013-03-20 23:17:17 995343 I Read a ZnResponse(200 OK
application/x-monticello 3451B)
2013-03-20 23:17:17 995343 D Received headers
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:17:18 GMT
Content-Encoding: gzip
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Length: 3451
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Server: KomHttpServer/7.1.3 (unix)
Content-Type: application/x-monticello
2013-03-20 23:17:17 995343 T GET
/mc/AndreiChis/AnnouncerCentricDebugger/main/ACD-Tests-AndreiChis.1.mcz 200
3451B 272ms
A short summary:
ZnEntityReader#readEntity calls ZnEntityReader#readEntityFromStream
which does 'GZipReadStream on: stream', after which
'readFrom:usingType:andLength:' is called.
In a wrong call, 'GZipReadStream on: stream' always throws
ConnectionClosed. This is handled in
ZnClientexecuteWithRetriesRemaining:
which keeps retrying until retryCount is 0. On the other hand for some
files 'GZipReadStream on: stream'
returns correctly, no exception is raised and it works ok.
The exception is thrown in SocketwaitForDataFor:ifClosed:ifTimedOut:
because SocketprimSocketConnectionStatus:
returns 3 instead of 2.
[(Time millisecondsSince: startTime) msecsDelta] whileTrue: [
here 'self primSocketConnectionStatus: socketHandle' is
2
(self primSocketReceiveDataAvailable: socketHandle)
ifTrue: [Transcript crShow: 'hasData'. ^self].
here 'self primSocketConnectionStatus: socketHandle' is
3, if
there is no more content to be read
so 'self isConnected' will be false.
self isConnected
ifFalse: [Transcript crShow: '
notConnected'.^closedBlock value].
self readSemaphore waitTimeoutMSecs:
(msecsDelta - (Time millisecondsSince: startTime)
max: 0).
].
That fact that this exception is raised during the call to
'GZipReadStream on: stream' seem to be the problem,
as this does not allow readFrom: stream usingType: self contentType
andLength:
I hope this makes sense.
We probably do not have to look in the socket[stream] layer, the first
place to look is in ZnEntityReader, more specifically: what was the
situation wrt headers before it starts reading the body, what decisions
were taken, and how far was/is it in the reading process.
I can try to dig more into it tomorrow.
If you want me to look at other things let me know.
I am wondering whether we could set some temporary screen sharing over the
internet, so that I can remotely work in an image running on a machine in
your network…
Sven
Cheers,
Andrei
--
$ curl
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/AndreiChis/AnnouncerCentricDebugger/main/ACD-Tests-AndreiChis.1.mcz
-H Accept-Encoding: gzip | gunzip foo.mcz
% Total% Received % Xferd Average Speed TimeTime Time
Current
Dload Upload Total SpentLeft
Speed
100 33070 33070 0 7583 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--
8889
$ file foo.mcz
foo.mcz: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
$ ls -l foo.mcz
-rw-r--r-- 1 andrei staff 3451 Mar 21 09:55 foo.mcz
$ unzip -l foo.mcz
Archive: foo.mcz
Length Date TimeName
18 03-27-11 02:22 package
188 03-27-11 02:22 version
8588 03-27-11 02:22 snapshot/source.st
9014
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [squeak-dev] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!
Hola tocayo! Maybe you can find this interesting: http://www.squeaksource.com/Jabber/ Best, On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Mariano Vicente m.vic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my name is Mariano,i'm a student at University of Quilmes. i have a experience in other programing languages like Scala, or Objective-c, and i like to participate in a real Smaltalk project. My background in this tecnology, is a little small, i never make a real project (I do in other tecnlogies) and i think the summer of code is a great oportunity for learn and practice. My ideas are: Level: intermediate Possible mentor: guillermo polito Possible second mentor: (?) Description: jabber client / server to communicate smaltalk with this common protocol. Technical Details: Create a jabber client api, to provide the capacity to connect with accouts like google talk, or facebook chat. Create a jabber api server, with the capacity of accept connection of diferent jabber clients. Benefits to the Student: - Learn and understand architecture server/client - Learn about the protocol jabber. - Use a highly reflective dynamic language Benefits to the Community: - Server and client for jabber protocol - Posible implementations for chatbots, chatclients, chatservers And : Level: intermediate Possible mentor: Guillermo Polito Possible second mentor: (?) Description: Animation Library based on Athens Technical Details: Animation Library, to make visual animation objects in the screen, such as move, bounce , etc. Benefits to the Student: - Learn the basics of animations and moving objects. - Learn about manage of graphics - Understand the concepts of movement functions Benefits to the Community: - Get a library to make custom animations with the posibility of add new ones. Regards, Mariano On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: And another one: Level: intermediate Possible mentor: Santiago Bragagnolo Possible second mentor: Guillermo Polito Description: Gamification is becoming more and more popular in a lot of applications. What about gamify the pharo development process? You get points by adding comments, fixing bugs or answering questions. You can be a comment healer, a bug slayer, a Zinc magician. The intend of this project is to build an application that integrates with the Pharo development process tools (issue tracker, smalltalkhub, stack overflow) and provides a gamified experience, so we get more and more motivated to code. Technical Details: This project implies the creation of an application which communicates with different applications APIs and perform some analysis on them such as running source code Lint rules. Additionally, this application should have a web frontend. Benefits to the Student - Use a highly reflective dynamic language - Learn to develop a complex application architecture with several communicating components - Learn about ramification concepts - Learn about an open source project development and integration process, such as Pharo - Learn web application development techniques Benefits to the Community - have a platform to organize activities and events around the Pharo development - be more motivated to participate into the development for rewards such as experience, badges and abilities On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Janko! We have this: Level: intermediate Possible mentor: Guillermo Polito Possible second mentor: Esteban Lorenzano Description: DBXTalk database driver nowadays uses a native library called OpenDBX. This library stands as an adaptor between different database drivers, implemented in C. This native library supposes many problems: - it should be normally compiled for each different platform (Windows, *nix, macosx) and database vendor - each of its bugs should be fixed in a C source code base - OpenDBX do not expose the particular behavior of each database vendor, but their common denominator - difficulty for distribution, and problems to locate libraries. This project proposes to use NativeBoost bindings to remove the necessity of the native openDBX library, simplifying the deployment of applications using relational databases, and moving all the code base to Smalltalk. Technical Details: This project supposes the replacement of openDBX old FFI bindings by direct nativeBoost bindings to the database drivers. The new drivers should be completely written in Smalltalk, and take care of platform and library resolution in the image side. These drivers should be polymorphic while also enabling the access to specific API provided by database vendors. Benefits to the Student - Use a highly reflective dynamic language - Learn the basics of foreign function interface (and its exponent
Re: [Pharo-project] Problem downloading packages with Monticello from Smalltalkhub because of setAcceptEncodingGzip
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 21 Mar 2013, at 14:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 21 Mar 2013, at 14:37, Andrei Vasile Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com wrote: I will check, however it happes for a lot of packages. Some work, and some do not work. Strange, I don't think it has to do with the contents, the MC unzipping has not yet even happened. Maybe the size is an element (chunking, buffering). @Sven I have a linux installation on virtual box where I could reproduce this problem. I can give you access to it. OK, continuing off list. Sven Andrei was very helpful in giving me remote access to a machine with a Pharo 2.0 image running inside their network, so that I could have a look at his problem myself - Thanks Andrei ! I think I finally found the cause of this mysterious bug. The bug only appears when ZnEntityReader#readEntityFromStream needs to read a GZIP compressed response without an explicit Content-Length (so that it has to read up to end - pretty rare, apparently more common in the case of certain proxies) for a total size less than 65536 bytes (that is why it didn't happen on all cases ;-). In these particular circumstances, a GZipReadStream was created directly on top of a raw SocketStream, which immediately sends a #next: 65536 to the SocketStream. Which fails with a ConnectionClosed instead of returning just the available bytes (like #upToEnd). The fix depends on the question which method is actually wrong, the subject of my next mail ;-) wowwhat a great catch. Thanks Sven for all your hard and excellent work!!! Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)
Could someone explain what Penelope is and why we need it? We need it now (fogbugz) but we didn't need it before (google code)? What does it do? Doesn't fogbugz provide what penelope does? from the website I just see the items and I can filter by groups...isn't that provided by fogbugz? thanks, On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Nicolas Petton petton.nico...@gmail.comwrote: Hi! Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. Cheers, Nico -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] beta 1.4 documentation online
Why don't we add a link in the Pharo website with such an online help? It would be nice if this is indexable by Google. Thanks Cami!!! Nice job On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: how I hate the options of the VM |( no --help, -help exits unsuccessful grml grml grml On 2013-03-12, at 17:20, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: And it is not even true imageName defaults to `Squeak.image'. as I get a file dialog when such an image is in the folder. (Duly created with the save command) Phil 2013/3/12 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com: On 2013-03-12, at 16:51, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: These are the standard installed handlers: $ ../vm.sh Pharo.image --list Currently installed Command Line Handlers: st Loads and executes .st source files FuelLoads fuel files config Install and inspect Metacello Configurations from the command line saveRename the image and changes file testA command line test runner update Load updates printVersionPrint image version evalDirectly evaluates passed in one line scripts for each of them you can do --help $ ../vm.sh Pharo.image save --help Usage: save imageBaseName [--delete-old] imageName a base name for the image --delete-oldremove the old image and changes file Documentation: Saves the image and changes file under a new name. Examples: # create a 'bar.image' and 'foo.changes' $PHAROVM Foo.image saveAs bar # create the same file as in the previous example but delete Foo.image and Foo.changes $PHAROVM Foo.image saveAs bar --delete-old Sven ups, typos, typos: saveAs = save :/ I'll open an issue On 12 Mar 2013, at 16:48, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: That already exists no ? $ ./vm.sh Pharo.image save Foo will do a 'Save As..' to Foo.[image|changes] On 12 Mar 2013, at 16:45, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: BTW, an interesting additional ./vm.sh command would be: $./vm.sh clone Pharo WebDocExperiment which would do a copy of Pharo.image and Pharo.changes to the WebDoc.image and WebDoc.changes Phil 2013/3/12 Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com: impressive!! On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/doc/1.4/doc/package/undefined RSArrayNode. 2013/3/12 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com: On 2013-03-12, at 14:49, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: finally, after the 100th attempt I managed to export the documentation on 1.4 http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/doc/1.4 this weekend I will tackle 2.0 :) and of course, it still needs some love! - How can I export it myself too? currently work in progress, but there is a configuration for it: Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/webdoc/main' configurationOf: 'WebDoc'; loadDevelopment. And I think you have to manually start up a seaside adapter, once that is done: http://localhost:8080/doc should do the trick. - We should report issues about it in the foogzbuz (or whatever it is called I cannot reproduce yet :P). yes, maybe let's wait until next weekend :) since it doesn't run under 2.0 yet :P. I won't work on during the day :P that is reserved for Guido and the paper... -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo consultants
Thanks Stef for the nice words :) Maybe a first step which could be quite easy is to add a page of Pharo associated consultants or something like that in the Pharo website. Like the one we have now for contributors: http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors but for consultants. And each consultant can write a few keywords or small paragraph about their expertise. Best, On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Ah I get it, that's right. Probably what I mean is a better site of that goal which is answering *who is who in terms of what he/she did* thinking in https://angel.co/ as a benchmark sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ On Mar 9, 2013, at 5:39 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: That would be awesome. Glad to hear about an initiative to make things sustainable. A catalog of people who works using it would be great. We have the association just for that! In the next version we will add blogging facilities. No need to be a social network site, just a catalog for people to navigate who's working with it. Plus a subscribe/login for everyone manage its own profile so consultants can set a photo some bio and its portfolio Did you check the association web site :) Everybody could endorse skills or write reviews We cannot do that but you can link to linkedIn. I know I know... Linked In already kind of does that, but that's not the point so we are already linking into linkedIn :) The point is that we have our little proprietary thing focused on Pharo and endorsed by Pharo itself We have the association and it points to linkedIn If I would have available time I would make flowing itself to sponsor with developing such a site/extension to current pharo site Sorry but I do not understand what you mean. sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi guys I just got a nice chat with a cool Pharo expert (Mariano) that is doing consulting and development around Pharo and this is a cool feeling to know that smart guys in our community can find nice jobs that keeps them busy in Pharo. I think that we should market the community much more, because I think that this is important for other companies to know that they can find help with really talented people in our community. May be we should make more noise around: Pharo: a community with smart developers for cool business Stef -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] VM Crashes
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 08 Mar 2013, at 13:09, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-03-08, at 11:53, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 08 Mar 2013, at 11:16, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: But I have said this before: the wall clock time of loading a lot of code is actually close to unacceptable - I don't think it is the download or the compilation, but more all the dynamic stuff that happens after that. There should be a way to not do all those updates for each method and move the updates to one big batch update after the load - if that is possible. To continue my rant (sorry ;-) about the problem with slow code loading. These are some benchmarks on the same machine: $ ./vm.sh experimental.image eval '[Smalltalk allClassesAndTraits do: #compileAll] timeToRun' 106532 $ ./stack/vm.sh experimental.image eval '[Smalltalk allClassesAndTraits do: #compileAll] timeToRun' 221708 So it takes like 3 minutes to recompile every method in the system. How in the hell can it take 40 minutes to load some code (with all packages already present in the package-cache (but then again the package-cache is only 3.5 Mb, which could be downloaded in seconds)) ? I with you on this one! :D I always wondered what Metacello and Compiler do there! :D Well, open the Time Profiler and load your favourite Config. You'll have a hard time finding the actual time slice of the compiler. As far as I could see in my run it was less than 1% ! All the rest MC, Gofer, RPackage and SystemAnnouncement stuff, even completion stuff. Indeed, we noticed this as well when benchmarking Tanker to replace source compilation in Monticello. We got to a similar conclusion. Quite a challenge to optimize if you ask me. - Batch notifications: do not do a notification per method/class added. Instead do one notification with all the methods/classes together. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Is this possible with XMLWriter?
Thank you all guys. Indeed, it was quite possible to manually build the DOM. I was confused because the package was called XML*Parser*. I could see the nodes and all the DOM but I didn't expected these classes would understand writing behavior like #named: , #add: etc... but yes, they do understand so you can manually build the DOM and when you are done you can just get the resulting string. Best, On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Please use the version that is now published in PharoExtras. If you add tests please commit them :) On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. I am using XMLWriter from http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLWriterto write a specific XML that a protocol expects. What I need is to build the XML file from parent to children and dynamically. For example, I want to be able to define a tag, but then, later on, add more tags to a parent element. I found this impossible to do with the current XMLWriter. Here, messages like #tag:with: , #with: do not help. I know I will need to build everything in memory and send a write contents at the end to get the final XML string... For example, say I wanna build this XML: root parent1 child1grrrchild1 child2grrrchild2 /parent1 parent2 child3buhhhchild3 /parent2 /root i would like an API like this: | xmlWriter | xmlWriter := XMLWriter new. xmlWriter tag: 'root'. (xmlWriter named: 'root') tag: 'parent1'. (xmlWriter named: 'parent1') tag: 'child' with: 'grrr'. (xmlWriter named: 'root') tag: 'parent2'. xmlWriter write contents. Or even if I don't have #named: but I can store them in instVars it would be fine: | xmlWriter rootTag parent1Tag | xmlWriter := XMLWriter new. rootTag xmlWriter tag: 'root'. parent1Tag rootTag tag: 'parent1'. parent1Tag tag: 'child' with: 'grrr'. rootTag tag: 'parent2' xmlWriter write contents. Any ideas how to do this? Thanks, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [Nautilus] Slow Package Menu on Mouse Button Right Click + Fix
Don't forget to sign the license and send it if you didn't do it yet!
Best,
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM, stephane ducasse
stephane.duca...@free.frwrote:
Thanks a lot Mike.
Such contributions are really welcome. We are all working like nuts on so
many things :).
Stef
Dear Pharoers,
thank you all for your time and great contributions!
Here is a quick performance fix for Nautilus.
In Pharo2.0a #20581 and previous versions, selecting the package menu with
my right mouse button lasts too long;
here is why:
95.4% {564ms} NautilusUI(AbstractNautilusUI)packageMenuBuilder
95.4% {564ms} PragmaMenuBuilder classwithAllPragmaKeywords:model:
95.4% {564ms} PragmaMenuBuilderbuildTree
95.4% {564ms} PragmaMenuBuildercollectRegistrations
*90.3%* {534ms} CriticBrowser classpackagesMenu:
Solution, only call CriticsBrowser initialization when this exact menu
item is selected.
CriticsBrowserpackagesMenu: aBuilder
nautilusGlobalPackageMenu
(aBuilder item: #'Critics Browser')
action: [ | packages target env rules |
target := aBuilder model.
packages := OrderedCollection new.
target selectedPackages do: [:p | MCWorkingCopy managersForCategory: p
packageName do: [:package | packages add: package]].
rules := RBCompositeLintRule allGoodRules.
env := (RBPackageEnvironment new packages: packages ).
self openOnRule: rules onEnvironment: env];
help: 'Running critics rules on this package'.
Maybe there are more
--
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Test Resources
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Jannik and I are having trouble dealing with resources in our robotic project. It's strange that resources are reset on every test run. This happens when resources are declared in test class method resources. My understanding of resources is that they should be reset only once for a whole test suite. For every test case, they should be setUp/tearDown, but not fully reset. I don't know what the problem is, but yes, it should be as you said. If this is not the case, then there is a bug. wait a minute...what do you mean by reset of resources? I guess you mean #setUp, right? We couldn't find a clean way of working this out. We ended up defining our own subclass of TestSuite, which I believe is dirty. Besides, the behavior is kind of random. It seems that there are some cleanups that aren't performed the right time. But, since the failure is random, we couldn't manage today to fix this. Any hint, idea is welcome, Noury Ecole des Mines de Douai http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- Afin de contribuer au respect de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer ce courriel qu'en cas de necessite Please consider the environment before you print -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Is this possible with XMLWriter?
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Gastón Dall' Oglio gaston.dallog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mariano. Some like this: xmlWriter := XMLWriter new writeWith: [ :writer | writer enablePrettyPrinting; xml; comment: 'Generated from Pharo.'. writer tag: 'root' with: [ writer tag: 'parent1' with: [ writer tag: 'child1' with: 'grrr'. writer tag: 'child2' with: 'grrr' ]. writer tag: 'parent2' with: [ writer tag: 'child3' with: 'buhhhr' ] ] ]. xml := xmlWriter contents. Thanks Gaston. But that exactly what I cannot do ;) Looks like I didn't express myself well. In this case, you are defining a tag completely from the beginning. For example, to write parent1 and parent2 you already have to pass them from the beginning to the root. I want to be able to do that at different times. Add one, THEN (not in the same block closure) the other one. Please let me know if my problem is clear. Otherwise, I try again :) 2013/2/27 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com Hi guys. I am using XMLWriter from http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLWriterto write a specific XML that a protocol expects. What I need is to build the XML file from parent to children and dynamically. For example, I want to be able to define a tag, but then, later on, add more tags to a parent element. I found this impossible to do with the current XMLWriter. Here, messages like #tag:with: , #with: do not help. I know I will need to build everything in memory and send a write contents at the end to get the final XML string... For example, say I wanna build this XML: root parent1 child1grrrchild1 child2grrrchild2 /parent1 parent2 child3buhhhchild3 /parent2 /root i would like an API like this: | xmlWriter | xmlWriter := XMLWriter new. xmlWriter tag: 'root'. (xmlWriter named: 'root') tag: 'parent1'. (xmlWriter named: 'parent1') tag: 'child' with: 'grrr'. (xmlWriter named: 'root') tag: 'parent2'. xmlWriter write contents. Or even if I don't have #named: but I can store them in instVars it would be fine: | xmlWriter rootTag parent1Tag | xmlWriter := XMLWriter new. rootTag xmlWriter tag: 'root'. parent1Tag rootTag tag: 'parent1'. parent1Tag tag: 'child' with: 'grrr'. rootTag tag: 'parent2' xmlWriter write contents. Any ideas how to do this? Thanks, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] fast #becomeForward: crashes without PharoV10.sources
mmm what do you mean by fast becomeForward: ? On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: While setting up the new multi platform VM tests I saw that the tests fail extremely quickly when there are not PharoV10.sources available. It is still our know #becomeForward: but on CompiledMethods, but I just want to share that. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] A solution to manage units like inches and centimeters in Pharo?
Yes, I was going to suggest that. Maybe Hernan can say more. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Frank Shearar wrote: On 22 February 2013 15:45, Guillaume Larcheveque guillaume.larcheveque@gmail.**com guillaume.larcheve...@gmail.com wrote: Does something exists because I looked and don't find anything. Something like these? * http://map.squeak.org/package/**b546b6af-984e-4e89-a7a5-**875ce0435710http://map.squeak.org/package/b546b6af-984e-4e89-a7a5-875ce0435710 * http://map.squeak.org/package/**8664cb28-916b-4e8a-8cd6-**b6db73f5024chttp://map.squeak.org/package/8664cb28-916b-4e8a-8cd6-b6db73f5024c frank I had Aconcagua running on Pharo a year ago before I got sidetracked. Can't remember if or what I needed to tweak, but I found a mcz with my name on it. cheers -ben -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Weird behavior in Nautilus when doing a method rename
I think all this topic should be quite easy. It should be similar to OB scope. All refactors like method rename affects everything if the scope is the default. If you want to affect only a class/package do a Browse scoped to a class/package. And then the refactors should only affect that. Of course, we should explain this somewhere in Pharo doc. I think this is quite easy and enough for most cases. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.frwrote: Le 20/02/2013 21:33, Benjamin a écrit : On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:43 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@free.**fr stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@**gmail.combenjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com mailto:benjamin.vanryseghem.**ph...@gmail.combenjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: There is actually no simple way to simply rename a method. We should maybe add one which keep track of the versions :) sure there is: click on the method in the text pane change the selector of the method and compile. I am kind of aware of that :) But for a new comer, it's not obvious at all. And usually they first look in the menu and click on the first entry matching the need Ben What about restricting the rename to the current package or class? With, say, a box to tick to go system wide? (And a nice GUI, moose-like, showing on a color map how much of the system the rename will impact :)) Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on osx 10.5
I think Pharo 1.3 and 1.4 (not 2.0) should run ok with Carbon-based VMs. You can get them from: http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2693/Cog.app.tgz Let me know if that works. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: - Google announced that the Chrome browser will be dropping support for Leopard starting on Chrome 21. By that time Chrome will no longer auto-update, and new Chrome installations are unalloyed. Their rationale for removal of support is that Leopard is an OS X version also no longer being updated by Apple.[61] - Firefox also dropped support for Leopard after it shipped Firefox 16 in October, 2012.[62] Nice quote: “Apple releases new versions of its operating systems relatively quickly, and each new version contains significant changes that we must adapt to,” Aas said. “This requires resources, and with limited resources this sometimes means we have to make tough decisions about where to invest.” http://www.macworld.com/article/1168241/mozilla_sets_end_of_firefox_for_os_x_leopard.html (this article is already 6 months old…) Mozilla had limited resources (revenue, but revenue is resource in software) of over 163 million USD in 2011… Marcus -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Migrated SS/Growl to Pharo/Archive
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:56 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr**wrote: Stef, now that you are migrating everything to SmalltalkHub, are you: - putting a big text in the old repositories saying PROJECT XXX WAS MOVED TO YYY. Because then we run in problems where people refer/commit to old repos - make old project repo read only I did it for all the projects that I administrate. Excellent :) I am wondering if perhaps someone accessing one of those repositories via Monticello might miss that. Perhaps a final package with filename package.movedToSmalltalkhub.**mcz would be useful (or maybe just overkill) Yes, I was thinking the same for deprecating a package. In fuel we have lots of packages that with newer versions are deprecated. And when you browse with Monticello you still see them around... Moving them to another repo is not an option because it would mean to update all previous versions in ConfgiurationOfFuel. So I was also thinking about committing a last version like: FuelXXXDeprecated-THIS_PACKAGE_IS_DEPRECATED.nnn.mzc. Cheers, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Migrated SS/Growl to Pharo/Archive
Stef, now that you are migrating everything to SmalltalkHub, are you: - putting a big text in the old repositories saying PROJECT XXX WAS MOVED TO YYY. Because then we run in problems where people refer/commit to old repos - make old project repo read only ? cheers, On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys since growl has been integrated to Pharo I migrated the SS project to the Pharo/Archive one. Stef -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [Failing Tests] Cleaned up failing test serialization
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On Feb 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-02-16, at 14:11, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, To make it easy to explore why a test fails on the test server we serialize the stack of falling tests. With two changes this has now gotten much easier: 1) Drag and Drop support for .fuel file Just drag the file to the Pharo Desktop -- Debugger opens Could you advise how to do this from an operational image (that is, not a CI test image). I would like to use this to demonstrate Pharo's outstanding development environment. A killer feature would be the debugger having a File out button, that a user could use to mail to support. Does any other programming system allow this ? you can just select fileout / serialize stack in the debugger somewhere. The you get a local .fuel file with the serialized stack :) We should - rename it Fuel out stack +1 - set a post-dematerialization action Yes, you can copy it from the HDTestRunner that does exactly this :) Because right now drag-and-drop does not lead to any result. Marcus -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [Failing Tests] Cleaned up failing test serialization
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: We should - rename it Fuel out stack - set a post-dematerialization action Because right now drag-and-drop does not lead to any result. that is strange.. since I remember Mariano added a post action that opens the debugger: But I think Marcus is talking about the button in the debugger, not the HDTestRunner see HDTestReport#serializeTestFailureContext:toFileNamed: --- ... serializer addPostMaterializationAction: [:materialization | Smalltalk tools debugger openContext: materialization root label: 'This is the new debugger!' contents: nil ]. ... --- so there must be something wrong with drag n'drop handler... -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
Hi guys. For those who had a crash with the VM I attached previously, you can try now with the just released Pharo VM from the Pharo CI server: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/job/PharoVM/Architecture=32,OS=mac/ This VM has already included the headless support and should work for OSX = 10.6. The only change is to set the flag LSBackgroundOnly of Info.plist to true. If there is some problem, please let me know. Esteban: thanks for fixing the VM built and for integrating my changes :) Best regards, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] About dependency granularity in metacello
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Hi dale
I'm migrating Moose and I got the following question. In terms of
granularity of dependency when depending of project.
Before we had Fame that depended directly on one package of phexample.
baseline11: spec
version: '1.1-baseline'
spec for: #'common' do: [
spec blessing: #'baseline'.
spec description: 'Baseline 1.1 first version on
SmalltalkHub, copied from baseline 1.0 on SqueakSource'.
spec repository: '
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Fame/main'.
spec
package: 'Fame-Core';
package: 'Fame-Util';
package: 'Fame-ImportExport' with: [spec requires:
#('Fame-Core' ) ];
package: 'Fame-SmalltalkBinding' with: [spec
requires: #('Fame-Core' ) ];
package: 'Fame-Example';
package: 'Phexample' with: [spec repository: '
http://www.squeaksource.com/phexample' ];
^^^
package: 'Fame-Tests-Core' with: [spec requires:
#('Fame-Core' 'Fame-Example' 'Phexample' ) ].
spec
group: 'Core' with: #('Fame-Core'
'Fame-ImportExport' 'Fame-Util' 'Fame-SmalltalkBinding' );
group: 'Tests' with: #('Fame-Tests-Core' ) ].
Stefan created a configuration for PhExample so the Fame baseline now
depends on the Phexample project
baseline12: spec
version: '1.2-baseline'
spec for: #'common' do: [
spec blessing: #'baseline'.
spec description: 'Baseline 1.2 to make explicit that Fame
depends on HashTable and Phexample (now on smalltalkHub and with working
configurations'.
spec repository: '
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Fame/main'.
spec project: 'HashTable' with: [
spec
className:
'ConfigurationOfHashTable';
versionString: #stable;
repository: '
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/HashTable/main' ].
spec project: 'Phexample' with: [
spec
className:
'ConfigurationOfPhexample';
versionString: #stable;
repository: '
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Phexample/main' ].
Say you just need the package Core from Phexample (I have just invented the
package name) so you can define:
spec project: 'PhexampleCore' with: [
spec
className:
'ConfigurationOfPhexample';
versionString: #stable;
loads: #('Core');
repository: '
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Phexample/main' ].
And then do:
'Fame-Tests-Core' with: [spec requires: #('Fame-Core' 'Fame-Example'
'PhexampleCore' ) ].
Notice all this above this is NOT the same as doing:
package: 'Phexample' with: [spec repository: '
http://www.squeaksource.com/phexample' ];
That way you are just download a package from a repository, Metacello is
not involved. So for example if PhexampleCore has dependenciesthey are
not laoded.
With the code I pasted above, you don't just download a package from a
repo, instead, you say Metacello you depend on a package. And that is
managed as metacello. So for example if PhexampleCore has dependencies,
they will be loaded and managed.
Best,
spec
package: 'Fame-Core' with: [spec requires:
'HashTable'];
package: 'Fame-Util';
package: 'Fame-ImportExport' with: [spec requires:
#('Fame-Core' ) ];
package: 'Fame-SmalltalkBinding' with: [spec
requires: #('Fame-Core' ) ];
package: 'Fame-Example';
package: 'Fame-Tests-Core' with: [spec requires:
#('Fame-Core' 'Fame-Example') ].
spec
group: 'Core' with: #('Fame-Core'
'Fame-ImportExport' 'Fame-Util' 'Fame-SmalltalkBinding' );
group: 'Tests' with: #('Fame-Tests-Core' ) ].
Now my question
we got from package: 'Fame-Tests-Core' with: [spec requires: #('Fame-Core'
'Fame-Example' 'Phexample' ) ].
to a dependency between project and I was wondering if this is ok because
may be a project is large and we only
depend on a small part.
Then doing so we are also losing the information that this is
Fame-Tests-Core that introduces the dependency to
Re: [Pharo-project] About dependency granularity in metacello
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.frwrote: Mariano have a look at section 1.10 :) Looks OK, but isn't this a duplication? Loading specific packages in page 21 looks similar. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] CouchDB and Pharo
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 January 2013 10:07, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote: Hi! Just noticed your stuff: http://vinsicaves.seasidehosting.st/resources/Developing%20Applications%20with%20Smalltalk%20and%20CouchDB.pdf http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~jmari/SCouchDBViewServer Looks very nice! indeed! Wow, very nice pdf. Very very well done. It should be more available and known!! I also wrote a view server implementation a while ago - I remember I did some tricks to make Compiler deal with it properly etc. Can dig it out an email it to you, in that way I am at least sure it didn't go to waste. regards, Göran PS. I moved on to Riak after CouchDB and now I am heavily intrigued by HyperDex and have a binding brewing using NB FFI :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] In-Image Fuel Documentation
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: I eventually found this awesome website [1]. It would be great if there were some basic examples in the image. I found the tests too well factored to be used for this purpose. what do you mean by this? FLUserGuidesTest contains the examples used in the website (although there may not be everything and still it could be outdated). Maybe we can move this test into a Fuel-Examples package? Even a HelpSystem entry simply pointing to [1] would be really helpful for beginners like me ;) (although a full Help entry would have the nice benefit of executable examples) Hi Sean. One problem I found is that then we have too many places with the same doc. Hence, a simple update means changing a lot of places: - Doc in image - Examples in image / tests - Website - Help system - PBE chapter so...that does not scale. I don't know yet the best way to solve this. Markdown and then output all the different pieces is not an option I think. thoughts? Thanks, Sean [1] http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/Version1.8.1/Documentation -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/In-Image-Fuel-Documentation-tp4665190.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nlwrote: Hi Mark, Should have read the man page for open instead of a web page. No problem. I had already tried the second version. Still crashes though, with the same error, on 10.6.8 (can try it on newer and older versions too, after finding a working version) Mariano: CogVM-sandard also has the illegal instruction Ok, the good news for me then is that it is not my headless change but the problem of GNU GCC VS. LLVM GCC ;) We need to find a way to compile the VM in 10.8 and with GNU :( Stephan -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] TalkFFI: automatic FFI generation for Pharo
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Stefan Marr smallt...@stefan-marr.dewrote: Hi: On 23 Jan 2013, at 15:28, Stefan Marr wrote: On 06 Jan 2013, at 17:22, Ciprian Teodorov wrote: The project is released under MIT license, and you can find it on the smalltalkhub site. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~CipT/TalkFFI I was trying to play with TalkFFI, but it looks like libclang3.1 is not compiled correctly or something. How do you build it? In your code I see you are also targeting OSX, so that doesn't seem to be the problem. I was trying to use the MacPorts version of libclang3.1 without having set any special compiler flags. So, I am not entirely sure whether it is build correctly. I searched a bit more and found the libclang of Xcode (/Developer/usr/clang-ide/lib/libclang.dylib). With that lib it crashes the VM on a callout to parse the header file (clang_createTranslationUnitFromSourceFile). The MacPorts version already stopped way earlier when trying to use clang_createIndex. So, still not a lot of luck. Maybe the lib needs to be 32 bits? can you check if the lib you are trying is compiled for 32 or 64? I am on a OSX 10.6 with the latest NBCog, downloaded today ( http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/nbcog/mac/NBCog-mac-latest.zip) Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525 -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mariano, on MacOS 10.6.8 doing ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM Pier3.image does not work, I get Illegal instruction... the same with ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM --headless Pier3.image if i try using open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image, it works but It's not headless, however when looking in the info.plist the key you have mentioned is there keyLSBackgroundOnly/key true/ Well, this one is weird ;) I think the problem is (as Mark pointed out) the open. When you do: open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image I will (I think) do two things: - open the CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app (which will popup the window to choose an image) - open the Pier3.image with the default app associated (that would be the same as double clicking the .image from the finder) So, I think that what you need is to add the -a: open -a CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image In this case, you should at least get the same behavior as: ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM Pier3.image that is, a ilegal instruction. Is it like this? Now...why the ilegal instruction?? I don't know. I will check. I could be maybe what I said that I compiled with LLVM GCC. We should compile this VM with GNU GCC...but so far I couldn't in 10.8.2 :( Well, I have compiled a normal VM (without my headless changes) with LLVM GCC. Now, can you try this VM (CogVM-standard) please? If we get Ilegal Instruction, then it is the compiler. If we don't, and it works, then it is something related with my changes. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpqnfycjpe76fo1/CogVM-standard.zip Thanks, Thanks for the testing to everybody!!! On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nlwrote: This doesn't work open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image Which OSX version are you using? Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 6505). Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: Press CR to quit... Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Failed to create CSSymbolicatorRef for launchd Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[207] ([0x0-0x2fa2fa].org.squeakfoundation.Squeak[36835]): Job appears to have crashed: Segmentation fault Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Saved crash report for launchd[36835] version ??? (???) to /Users/stephan/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/launchd_2013-01-19-112052_Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac.crash -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Dr. Ciprian TEODOROV Ingénieur Développement CAO tél : 06 08 54 73 48 mail : ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com www.teodorov.ro -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Mariano Martinez Peck wrote thanks Square [i] International lt;http://www.square-i.net/gt; ... headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. Yes, thank you, thank you!! I've been using Pharo for Jenkins build scripts, and it was really disruptive to see the image pop up every time a job started. As to the flag limitation, I think for now I'll have two copies of the VM - a headful one, which will be the default on my Mac, and one with the headless flag set, that gets explicitly launched by Jenkins... not perfect, but a HUGE step!! Yes, that's the easiest way. I spent *a lot* of time trying to find another way, but they all failed. There is one possibility that should work but it is too hacky for me: very at the beginning of the VM (before starting Cocoa) read the arguments. If -headless is present, then programmatically set/write the flag in the Info.plist. If it it not, do nothing (or set it to false). But modifying the file on startup looks hacky to me. I prefer the user to manually set it. Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Headless-support-for-Cog-Cocoa-VM-tp4664137p4664212.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Object#name
Hi Sven. Yes, as far as I remember, Objectname was safe to remove. Not likewise Classname but ok, it is less likely final users will need class side #name. So +1 to removing instance side #name. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi, Many people have hit the fact that Object implements #name, which then seems to conflict with some other class where one would really like to use name as an instance variable and thus accessor. Turns out that it seems that Object#name is actually not used (anymore). I just put a halt in it and tried a couple of tools and everything seems to work just fine. The comment talks about Inspector use, but there is #defaultLabelForInspector for that. It is a small thing, but it confuses everybody for no good reason, Any comments ? Sven PS: it was also in the testing procotol ;-) -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: yeah, I declare my self guilty for having that incredibly ugly idea... :) heheheheh :) As you see (and I thanked in the email) Esteban has been helping me here. And then he will merge and integrate :) On Jan 21, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Mariano Martinez Peck wrote thanks Square [i] International lt;http://www.square-i.net/gt; ... headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. Yes, thank you, thank you!! I've been using Pharo for Jenkins build scripts, and it was really disruptive to see the image pop up every time a job started. As to the flag limitation, I think for now I'll have two copies of the VM - a headful one, which will be the default on my Mac, and one with the headless flag set, that gets explicitly launched by Jenkins... not perfect, but a HUGE step!! Yes, that's the easiest way. I spent *a lot* of time trying to find another way, but they all failed. There is one possibility that should work but it is too hacky for me: very at the beginning of the VM (before starting Cocoa) read the arguments. If -headless is present, then programmatically set/write the flag in the Info.plist. If it it not, do nothing (or set it to false). But modifying the file on startup looks hacky to me. I prefer the user to manually set it. Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Headless-support-for-Cog-Cocoa-VM-tp4664137p4664212.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: This doesn't work open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image Which OSX version are you using? Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 6505). Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: Press CR to quit... Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Failed to create CSSymbolicatorRef for launchd Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[207] ([0x0-0x2fa2fa].org.squeakfoundation.Squeak[36835]): Job appears to have crashed: Segmentation fault Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Saved crash report for launchd[36835] version ??? (???) to /Users/stephan/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/launchd_2013-01-19-112052_Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac.crash -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mariano, on MacOS 10.6.8 doing ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM Pier3.image does not work, I get Illegal instruction... the same with ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM --headless Pier3.image if i try using open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image, it works but It's not headless, however when looking in the info.plist the key you have mentioned is there keyLSBackgroundOnly/key true/ Well, this one is weird ;) I think the problem is (as Mark pointed out) the open. When you do: open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image I will (I think) do two things: - open the CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app (which will popup the window to choose an image) - open the Pier3.image with the default app associated (that would be the same as double clicking the .image from the finder) So, I think that what you need is to add the -a: open -a CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image In this case, you should at least get the same behavior as: ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM Pier3.image that is, a ilegal instruction. Is it like this? Now...why the ilegal instruction?? I don't know. I will check. I could be maybe what I said that I compiled with LLVM GCC. We should compile this VM with GNU GCC...but so far I couldn't in 10.8.2 :( Thanks for the testing to everybody!!! On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nlwrote: This doesn't work open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image Which OSX version are you using? Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 6505). Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: Press CR to quit... Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Failed to create CSSymbolicatorRef for launchd Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[207] ([0x0-0x2fa2fa].org.squeakfoundation.Squeak[36835]): Job appears to have crashed: Segmentation fault Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Saved crash report for launchd[36835] version ??? (???) to /Users/stephan/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/launchd_2013-01-19-112052_Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac.crash -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Dr. Ciprian TEODOROV Ingénieur Développement CAO tél : 06 08 54 73 48 mail : ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com www.teodorov.ro -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
[Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM
Hello there, For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy framework so people needed this. I wanted to thanks Square [i] International http://www.square-i.net/ for sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. *How to use it?* Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not present): keyLSBackgroundOnly/key true/ When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the flash while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you are headless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM with headless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:, you should see that Seaside is running. I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( *Expected results?* In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be integrated. Thanks everyone for the testing and feedback. Once again, thanks Square [i] International for sponsoring this great feature. Also thanks Esteban Lorenzano and Mark Smith for their incredible help. This was just the first prototype. I will keep you informed about possible progress. Best regards, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] CI Current Status
Thanks Marcus for keeping up informed. Good progress!!! Best, On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Marcus Denker-4 wrote We have moved more or less everything to the new Jenkins setup. ... it gets better every day. Bravo! Thanks for all the hard work, Marcus :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/CI-Current-Status-tp4663967p4663969.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalkhub error messages
It is down now :( On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: I am having big issues with smalltalkhub. It seems like all the Pinocchio stuff is broken again. I cannot load P4-Kernel-CamilloBruni.10.mcz from my repository http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~dh83 Furthermore while Clement is loading it, Smalltalkhub blocks completely! -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] TalkFFI: automatic FFI generation for Pharo
That's super awesome. Thanks!! And the documentation answer that I was just going to ask you :) *The libclang bindings themselves were also generated using TalkFFI (using minimal hand-written binding for bootstrapping).* sweet :) On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote: Happy new year everybody! I am pleased to announce today the initial release of TalkFFI. TalkFFI enables *automatic* FFI generation for Smalltalk. It uses libclang http://clang.llvm.org to parse *unmodified* C header files and generate FFI bindings to c libraries. For now it supports the generation of NativeBoost FFI bindings. The project is released under MIT license, and you can find it on the smalltalkhub site. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~CipT/TalkFFI Please do not hesitate send me your comments/critics/ideas. Best regards, -- Dr. Ciprian TEODOROV Ingénieur Développement CAO tél : 06 08 54 73 48 mail : ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com www.teodorov.ro -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [ANN] Fuel 1.8.1
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hir...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/1/13, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Hannes Hirzel wrote: Thank you for the announcment of Fuel. Where do I found the home page of it? AFAIK it is here: http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel Bye T. Thank you this is what I was looking for. It contains many links. The blog page mentions user guides but I do not see a link. It means everything it is under the section Documentation in http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel BTW, thanks Max for pushing Fuel so much. It is good to see new blood a new developers. It is amazing to see Fuel work in so many version of Pharo/Squeak :) -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] A blog article on Oak
Thanks Goran. I read the whole article, and I really like it. Hope you continue pushing. I always wanted to build some kind of database on top of Fuel :) On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:24 AM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Göran Krampe wrote: Hi! I just moved my blog to Octopress (away from Wordpress) and must say this is much more up my alley. And doing so I also published a rather long article on Oak - Nicolas little OODB-thing that I am using: http://goran.krampe.se/2012/12/29/oak/ Cool this is the best way to create more documentation. I would like to have a chapter on fuel, mongotalk,….for the next book. Deep into pharo 2 :) Stef If you have questions about Oak, feel free to either reply here or comment on the article. If you have questions on Octopress and migrating from Wordpress - feel free to ask about that too! ...and a happy new year! regards, Göran PS. Colorized Smalltalk code in Octopress markdown is trivial, I just do this: ``` smalltalk 3 + 4 ``` -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Logo in High Resolution
Check under category Media in https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 Cheers, On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.comwrote: Who should I contact if I want a high resolution version (vector based?) of the Pharo Project logotype? Does somebody have such assets and want to share them with me? Thank you! Esteban. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Open a view to compare two metods
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: I guess you can do something like (DiffMorph from: (MyClass#myFirstMethod) sourceCode to: (MyClass#mySecondMethod) sourceCode) openInWindow (I tried it in 2.0). Otherwise, I do no think that such a tool exists in 1.4 (in 2.0, you can do it with Nautilus). How can I do that with nautilus? Ben On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Dario Trussardi wrote: Hi, i work with Pharo 1.4. I have a class with some methods. Now i'm interested to open a view to compare and see the difference relative two methods of a class. I see into method version theCompare to current buttons. It display the change. I can create this view relative to two methods of one class ? Thanks, Dario -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] How to load Phoseydon and Neptuno?
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Are there plans for SqueakDBX regarding porting it to Pharo 2.0 or moving it from FFI to NativeBoost? It would be a nice idea. And not hard to do since the functions of OpenDBX are quite easy to wrap: easy types and no need of callbacks. Only one external structure. Unfortunately, right now my plate is full. If someone wants to take a look, I can provide more details on how that should be done. Cheers, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] just help :)
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/11/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr: On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:55 PM, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: * Framework for seamless data/object-synchronization. I suggested this a while ago, didn't get much response. I don't blame anyone, there is not much need for this right now. What I would want is to be able to modify certain objects in my image, while offline, and connect to the Internet, and these objects be synchronized between other images. This way Internet-enabled apps could be built on top of Pharo in a better way that web-apps are built now (because, in Pharo you can not hit F5 and get fresh data ;-). But this is low-priority for me. This is a hard problem… but if would be nice to have, yes. I think it would make a nice research project ;-) Maybe as an extension(*) to Fuel/Tanker? I guess Fuel/Tanker also has to deal with conflicts, right? Right. This already happens and Fuel deals with some of them. * - Extension or on-top-of -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] STON Update
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.euwrote: Hi, Based on feedback by Norbert Hartl, Stuart Herring and Dale Hendrichs (thank you) I improved the current STON version a bit. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/STON https://github.com/svenvc/ston Changelog: A nasty cycle bug was fixed Performance was improved, especially for large structures. Some implementation changes (recursion done using a stack, stonProcessSubObjects: optimized using stonContainsSubObjects) I did some stress/performance testing/tuning. Using STONTestMap classTreeExtended. to generate a structure mimicing the class hierarchy, with objects for all classes, about 7000 in my image and all methods, about 64000 in my image, with super/subclass and method owner links to create cycles. This results in a 7 Mb .ston file. The normal code, serializes this in 28 seconds and materializes it in 11.5 seconds. The 'fast' versions (using ZnBuffered[Write|Read]Streams and Fuel Large Datastructures) does it in 1.1 and 3.8 seconds respectively. You mean FLLargeHashedCollection and subclasses? New users are always welcome. Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] STON Update
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 30 Nov 2012, at 23:39, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi, Based on feedback by Norbert Hartl, Stuart Herring and Dale Hendrichs (thank you) I improved the current STON version a bit. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/STON https://github.com/svenvc/ston Changelog: A nasty cycle bug was fixed Performance was improved, especially for large structures. Some implementation changes (recursion done using a stack, stonProcessSubObjects: optimized using stonContainsSubObjects) I did some stress/performance testing/tuning. Using STONTestMap classTreeExtended. to generate a structure mimicing the class hierarchy, with objects for all classes, about 7000 in my image and all methods, about 64000 in my image, with super/subclass and method owner links to create cycles. This results in a 7 Mb .ston file. The normal code, serializes this in 28 seconds and materializes it in 11.5 seconds. The 'fast' versions (using ZnBuffered[Write|Read]Streams and Fuel Large Datastructures) does it in 1.1 and 3.8 seconds respectively. It occurred to me that I hadn't tried with Fuel (expecting it to be totally out of reach, since it is a binary protocol). Well, Fuel serializes my test structure in 5 seconds and materializes it in 1.2 seconds, the file being 6.4 Mb. Not bad for a textual protocol ;-) So 5.6x for serializing and 9.5x for materializing. Similar stream result. So, yes, not bad :) SIXX was way slower from what I remember. Don't have time now but I will check your STONTestMap classTreeExtended ... BTW, which stream class you use for the bench? This does of course not proof a lot, results will depend on each specific use case. New users are always welcome. Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] STON Update
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 01 Dec 2012, at 18:58, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: You mean FLLargeHashedCollection and subclasses? Yes: optimizeForLargeStructures self class environment at: #FLLargeIdentityDictionary ifPresent: [ :identityDictionaryClass | objects := identityDictionaryClass new ]. self class environment at: #FLSimpleStackstack ifPresent: [ :stackClass | stack := stackClass new ] Excellent :) -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] STON Update
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.euwrote: Hi, Based on feedback by Norbert Hartl, Stuart Herring and Dale Hendrichs (thank you) I improved the current STON version a bit. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/STON https://github.com/svenvc/ston Changelog: A nasty cycle bug was fixed Performance was improved, especially for large structures. Some implementation changes (recursion done using a stack, stonProcessSubObjects: optimized using stonContainsSubObjects) Yes, using a stack is also a good idea :) Good to see you are tacking some of the Fuel code/ideas to improve STON. It is awesome to have both, a fast binary and text serializers :) I did some stress/performance testing/tuning. Using STONTestMap classTreeExtended. to generate a structure mimicing the class hierarchy, with objects for all classes, about 7000 in my image and all methods, about 64000 in my image, with super/subclass and method owner links to create cycles. This results in a 7 Mb .ston file. The normal code, serializes this in 28 seconds and materializes it in 11.5 seconds. The 'fast' versions (using ZnBuffered[Write|Read]Streams and Fuel Large Datastructures) does it in 1.1 and 3.8 seconds respectively. New users are always welcome. Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [[ false ] whileFalse: [ ]] in workspace
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: if you have time try to figure out in which pharo version the bug appeared... (I should write a tool for that :P) = do a binary search over pharo versions http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/image/20/ Like a git bissect ? :-) http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-bisect.html Cami, the wiki police says you should store this as a student project ;) -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] smalltalkhub and project ownership
And what happens where is isnt't ONE gay? say there are 3 or 4 guys in the community that manage the project? what should we do? create a user named after the project? hahaha On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: yes, you're right, but Norbert point is that, right now, you cannot fork the project (and you should be able to do it) Esteban On Nov 22, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Is there an explanation why in smalltalkhub every project resides below a user? because things in this universe don't get done if someone isn't leading it? :D the leader of any project is (a) the curator of that project and (b) the one positioned to better inspire followers if people likes it, people follows the project and/or the guy if someone doesn't like the direction, that person can fork and lead it himself in another direction github got it right, I'm glad smalltalkhub too and it's not about mimicking github (which wouldn't be bad) it's mimicking the way people want to work it's about natural selection applied to software projects at its best makes sense? sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ PD: if someone abandons a project, no big deal, it will be there hanging out while another fork might be flourishing. Also projects property should be transferrable from one user to another for the cases in which that happens orderly. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] smalltalkhub and project ownership
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: And what happens where is isnt't ONE gay? say there are 3 or 4 guys in the community that manage the project? what should we do? create a user named after the project? hahaha sorry, s/gay/guy (mixing english writing with spanish pronunciation) On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: yes, you're right, but Norbert point is that, right now, you cannot fork the project (and you should be able to do it) Esteban On Nov 22, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Is there an explanation why in smalltalkhub every project resides below a user? because things in this universe don't get done if someone isn't leading it? :D the leader of any project is (a) the curator of that project and (b) the one positioned to better inspire followers if people likes it, people follows the project and/or the guy if someone doesn't like the direction, that person can fork and lead it himself in another direction github got it right, I'm glad smalltalkhub too and it's not about mimicking github (which wouldn't be bad) it's mimicking the way people want to work it's about natural selection applied to software projects at its best makes sense? sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ PD: if someone abandons a project, no big deal, it will be there hanging out while another fork might be flourishing. Also projects property should be transferrable from one user to another for the cases in which that happens orderly. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading dependencies
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Metacello is probably the way to go. It's a bit of a pain until you have it set up but then it's pretty easy to use, especially for development since you'll simply always load the latest versions (AKA bleeding edge or development). Take a look at the ProfStef tutorial (not sure how up to date it is but it helped me a lot to get started with Metacello). Yes, Metacello. And we also wrote a PharoByExample chapter: http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/Metacello.pdf Cheers, Max On 21.11.2012, at 09:30, roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Hi, At the moment I'm creating an analysis tool for Git repositories. I'm versioning my source code on Smalltalkhub, so that I can easily load my code in a fresh image, when needed. My project depends on several external packages such as the Filesystem-Git, Fuel, and the last version of Filesystem. I was wondering if it's possible to add such dependencies programmatically so that once I load my project from Monticello dependencies are added as well. I heard that Metacello is probably suitable to handle dependencies, but it would be glad to hear an opinion from you. Thanks in advance, Roberto -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 12:47, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote: I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its form a consisten pattern. DummyUIManager - NullUIManager yes, not Headless please. why? It is not a complete NULL UIManager. A NullUIManager would implement all the API and do nothing (or implement nothing but only #doesNotUnderstand: doing nothing or something like that) DummyUIManger DOES stuff, but it makes sures not to end up calling the UI (like progress bar, notifications, confirmations, etc). So, in this particular case, HeadlessUIManager is much more accurate for me than Null. Fernando On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using that for class names. More accurate names can be found. I would rename: DummyUIManager - HeadlessUIManager DummySystemProgressItem - NullSystemProgressItem DummySoundSystem - NullSoundSystem what do you think? do you have better names? -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] when do we go beta?
+1 for including only NB and then just bug fixes. No new stuff. So...slots and new classbuilder will be for next release. Same for Opal I guess. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Please! Because I refrain myself to fix and changes so we should focus on bug fixing and not opening new things. I was thinking on going beta next week, actually :) when do we go beta? I have been using 2.0 for months now, it has been very stable (apart from some hiccups). It is so much better that it would be immoral to keep this from the world ;-) We just have to declare a stabilization period in which we refrain from big/dangerous changes and work more on stability and testing. Thanks sven. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] when do we go beta?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-11-21, at 19:41, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: +1 for including only NB and then just bug fixes. No new stuff. So...slots and new classbuilder will be for next release. Same for Opal I guess. No Opal should be in previous as well as Athens. These projects should come back to light. Else this will never happen. I think that the thing we did with filesystem in 1.4 was good - integrate the detached project - apply the refactorings during development then in the next release - change tools to use the new infrastructure - remove old code I think we did almost the same with Zinc, no? What about NOT including new class builder nor Opal in 2.0 but as soon as we create the initial repo for 2.1 (or whatever), the first 2 things we do is to integrate them? -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Beeper
And why it is a AppRegistry. AppRegistry associates some application, tool. It is very confusing to use it for a sound provider. More the name of AppRegistry being confusing, what it does is provide infrastructure for registering providers of a service, and switching which is currently in use. In other words, SoundService (due to being an ApprRegistry) can switch between using multiple SoundSystems. Would it make sense to rename AppRegistry to ServiceRegistry therefore? Then I do not understand why it is named AbstractSoundSystem and not simply SoundSystem (remember AbstractString). Yes let us clean all that :) Can you take the lead on that? We could include the sound package in the release. Because AbstractSoundSystem provides the common interface that is expected to be supported by a given entry in the SoundService providers . Whether that warrants including Abstract in the name is debatable I guess :) On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi pavel In fact the registration default sound system is broken and we should fix it. I forgot what is the problem :) Hi, I would like to discuss the Beeper class a little bit. The main purpose of this class is to provide Beeper beep message and use SoundService with respect to current sound enabled settings or VM implemented primitive for beeping. Yes this was the idea and to remove it from smalltalk. Outright removal is a bit harsh considering what external users may exist. It probably deserves either being put in a deprecated package, or moved to a loadable compat package. Cheers, Henry -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Association
Hi. I am trying to add a contribution to my user. I put the title, I upload a picture for the project, and I set the description, but when I press accept it hangs in loading (on the top right) and after a timeout I get: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request *GET /web/membershttp://association.pharo.org/web/members *. Reason: *Error reading from remote server* -- Apache/2.2.17 (Ubuntu) Server at association.pharo.org Port 80 On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: Thank you for your suggestions! I am making a list of what to improve and added them (the association pharo vs. pharo association one I think is not to fix sadly...) Marcus On Nov 16, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Well done getting all this up an running. Some minor feedback on the web site... 1. I would guess that one of the more important purposes of the site is that people sign up. So don't hide the signup and login buttons away from the the front page. There is room on the right hand side of the title bar. Once logged in these could change to the membername and logout button. 2. Paypal says the payment transaction will appear on my bank statement as PayPal*ASSOCIATION. I guess that because the payment goes to Association Pharo. It would be nicer if the payment when to Pharo Association so that my bank statement said PayPal*PHARO - but I don't expect you could change that. 3. When choosing subscription type, the term _simple_ member to distinguish from premium member feels a bit condescending and unnecessary. Just member on its own is enough to distinguish from premium member. simple = *2. *A fool; a simpleton.[1] /b //(1)/ *:* stupid http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid /(2)/ *:* mentally retarded [2] [1] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/simple [2] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/simple 4. Perhaps when members add contribution for display on the slide show, these could be added to the What's new sidebar. This might help increase the show of activity. As an aside, I love the name Pharo for the project but it is unfortunate that Pharo is such a widely used name with 3,000,000 unrealated results on google search, and pharo.com domain being used for other purposes. A tip for others making up new project names is to choose one with a small number of results on Google. A service like http://wordoid.com/ can help. Marcus Denker wrote: Hello, We are happy to announce the Pharo User Association: http://association.pharo.org The goal of the Pharo User Association is to support Pharo development and promotion. There are two individual memberships - Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 40 Euros - Golden Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 99 Euros You will get - reduction access to pharo conferences, - reduction for training and access to teaching material, - be part of the pharoAssociation-individual-members mailing-list, - an account at the pharo association web site. This Association is complementary to the Pharo consortium managed by INRIA. The Consortium is for entities such as companies, research teams, or institutes. For more information, see: http://www.pharo-project.org/community/consortium The funds collected by the Association will be used in coordination with the Consortium to support the development of Pharo. The Pharo Board and Pharo Core Team. -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20403
Marcus, you are in fire!!! Thanks :) On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: 20403 - Issue 6989: Move DebuggerMethodMap to Compiler package http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6989 Issue 6988: Run #cleanUpForRelease in postscript http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6988 Issue 6894: Add Error tolerant parsing to RB http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6894 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Kernel-MarcusDenker.1252.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Compiler-MarcusDenker.360.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/AST-Core-MarcusDenker.103.diff -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess in Pharo 2.0
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on a simple library for NativeBoost that will execute commands on the shell and return stdin and stderr to the image. This will take me one or two weeks to complete though. Once I'm finished I'll post it on the list (I guess there's a lot of people who would want something like this). This library should (hopefully) make OSProcess obsolete. pleaeee Don't be so rude with OSProcess please. This is a great tool and has been helping the community since a really long time. And Dave was always there willing to help as much as possible. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] CategorySaver
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: So...my question is, what is the actual problem/limitations with those which are solved with this new tool?? or in other words, why do we need this new tool? should we improve the already existing tools instead? it's a backup! You probably never need any backup... until you do :-). In a perfect world Pharo would be perfect, never crash and never loose any data. Yes, but .changes is already a backup, so my questions are still valid ;) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
[Pharo-project] TimeProfiler and primitives
Hi guys. I remember some improvements made to TimeProfiler regarding primitives. I am profiling something which does a lot of primitive calls, and the TimeProfiler is quite dumb. It shows almost everything as #finalizationProcess but I know that the time is not actually spent there. I remember someone that fixed this (maybe Eliot telling me that on Teleplace?). Anyway, any help is appreciated. Thanks, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] TimeProfiler and primitives
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Paul DeBruicker pdebr...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have the same issue if you use the Qwaq profiler here: Www.squeaksource.com/SystemProfilerPharo.html That was what I was looking for!!! Indeed, much better results :) Thanks Paul. Now I wonder, can we merge the changes from this SystemProfiler into the standard TimeProfiler? I would love to have only (correcy) onw. Maybe you can help with this task? ;) ? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/TimeProfiler-and-primitives-tp4654714p4654715.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Writing 16 times 1mb to a WriteStream takes 1s. Normal?
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe pre-allocate the right size: ByteArray new: byteArray size * 16 streamContents: ... Well, actually we are trying to do a streaming API for a compressor. So, 1) I don't exactly know the number 16 before hand and 2) doing that is exactly what we are trying to avoid (compress/decompress all together). Instead, we are doing some kind of streaming, compressing in blocks of say 1MB. But I was completely surprised when I saw the results So there is nothing easy to improve? Nicolas 2012/11/10 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Hi guys: |byteArray| byteArray := (ByteArray new: 1024*1024). [ ByteArray streamContents: [:s | 16 timesRepeat: [ s nextPutAll:byteArray ] ] ] timeToRun Gives me around 1 second. Isn't that too much? or is it normal/expected? Anything I could improve? Thanks, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Replace ByteArray with a smaller one
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 November 2012 11:11, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: if the chunks you wan to cut off are big enough you could potentially allocate a new object there which get's gc-ed. yes.. actually you can 'crop' the existing object by modifying its size field (so VM will know it) and then for the rest bytes, mark them as a 'free chunk', which designates a unused memory space in heap. actually, this could be a good candidate for a primitive. Exactlly. I was hoping there was already a primitive for that :( But imo, much better strategy is to not allocate too big arrays. :) Also, as alternative , you can create a 'ArraySlice' collection class, which is a view on existing array but with smaller number or elements. And pass it around as a valid collection. But I have no clue how to do that without VM / NB support ;) :( On 2012-11-07, at 14:39, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. I have a ByteArray of size N. And I want now only the same ByteArray but from 1 to N-X. I am using #copyFrom:to: but that one answers a new copy. If the ByteArray is large, this takes time because it needs to allocate a large object. In my case I don't care and I can modify the original ByteArray itself (lets say make it smaller, null the remaining part and change the object header info). That way I would avoid an extra allocation. Is there a primitive for that? Thanks! -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ever ever halt in #startUp:
You can build a VM and skip to the next bytecode ;) http://forum.world.st/Fwd-Oops-I-put-a-halt-in-a-startup-method-td3800729.html On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote: Hey there Sebastian, I feel your pain. Unfortunately there seem to be *many* places / situations where halting is a very bad idea and renders your image unusable. That's why I think it would be a good idea to have a list of these places (in the documentation and in the Pharo welcome Workspace), and maybe the technical reasons behind them. Something that I did a couple (!!) of times until I learnt the lesson was to halt withing a MorphdrawnOn:. If you do, then there goes your UI painting/event processing thread (solution: debug your Morph from outside, passing a NullCanvas). It was also possible for me, more than once, to hang the image beyond recovery (CMD-dot did not help) if Delaying ((Delay forMilliseconds: 200) wait) within the UI thread in an infinite recursion (by mistake). As for rescuing it... can the recent changes help you? In your case you would be directly reading the .changes file... Not really rescuing your image, but extracting and saving your work... (and migrating to a new image). This is very annoying, I know. Been there a couple of times (although with less serious work than yours). In my opinion something needs to change in this area. These are huge productivity losses, and I fear that many new users (*) would at this point turn their backs on Smalltalk never to look back again. Best regards, Sebastian N. (*) or senior developers evaluating the possibility to use Pharo in their companies. 2012/11/8 Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com …I mean ever. Because you'll screw your image. Mostly when you also are on OS X but, for some crazy reason of the Universe, your TimeMachine was not operating normally on your laptop while coding. And you weren't committing in the monticello repo because it was work in progress and you were expecting to reach some goal. Ever. So… I'm in that situation with an image now :( I've the false good idea of putting a halt in an SomeApp classstartUp: method and now, when I open the image, it tries to, stays for about 2 seconds and crashes. Any of you guys have a workaround/hack to rescue it? sebastian o/ PS: I've tried with startup.st with the code that removes that method but no luck. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Recovering Changes from a broken image
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote: This tip is very welcome, didn't know that you could import changes made from another image. http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/05/19/pharo-tips-and-tricks/ title Recovering lost code: I paste it here: *- Recovering lost code: Probably, one of the things Smalltalkers are always proud of saying is “In Smalltalk you never lose code” hehhehe. So… your vm crashed and you didn’t save your code? Well, there are different ways of recovering the code. 1) Tools - Recover lost changes. There you can select the date from where to start watching the changes. Once you select a point in time, you can go item by item seeing what you want to recover. What I usually do is multi-select all the ones I want to recover and then I click on “file in selections”. That will install back those lost changes. Notice that this is thanks to the .changes file so you need it in order to recover changes. Also notice that even Do-Its are saved. 2) If your image does not even start, are you screwed up? No! You can even browse the changes and recover your lost data in ANOTHER image. Just open another image and then drag and drop the .changes of the image you lost the data. Then repeat the option 1). 3) You can always take your prefer text editor, open the .changes file and copy paste * Should definitely be included in the section recovering lost changes in the Pharo book (in case it isn't there already ;-). Also very welcome is a new description of changes. Without knowing its details, may I make a suggestion? When recovering lost changes what we need is to quickly distinguish (i.e. filter-out) operations on classes/methods and everything else. Having to look through all the do-its in order to see if they are Workspace experiments or important is very time-consuming, and there is always the possibility to miss some important do it, and then the whole import is stopped. So it would be great if there were different filters, and if the changes were more explicit. Other than that, when I needed it, I was grateful that this functionality existed at all :-) Cheers, Sebastian 2012/11/8 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Hi, One of the cool things of Smalltalk's images/changes file is that you can do a World Menu Tools Recover lost changes… to get back most [1] of your code in case your image/OS/machine suddenly crashed or you forgot to save your image or commit your Monticello packages. But we all have encountered the situation where the image is broken, saved in such a state that it no longer starts up properly. In that case your code might seem lost forever. No, it is not ! Two days ago I had this problem myself and I remembered something Marcus said some time ago: you can access the changes file of one (in casu your broken image) from another (working) image to select/recover the changes you want. It worked perfectly. The easiest procedure it to copy the .changes file from the broken image and rename its extension to .cs and then open it from a World Menu Tools File Browser and open a Changes browser on it. We should add a recover from another image shortcut. I found this very useful. This is a really important technique to be aware of. Sven [1] Sadly, not everything is logged in the changes file: creation of new classes, method deletions are not recorded. Yes we should change that. Ezequiel started to work on a new description of changes. -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo wiki?
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Pharo Community, are there plans to host a Pharo wiki somewhere? (for tutorials, tips, faqs, documentation, ideas, brainstorming, etc.) We have this: http://book.pharo-project.org/ Cheers, Sebastian -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
[Pharo-project] Cheating NB FFI ByteArray size
Hi Igor. I wonder if I can do the following. I have to pass a ByteArray to a function that expects an already malloced char*. So far it is working fine. Now...what I would like is from the image side to allocate a ByteArray of size + 4. I need to reserve the first 4 bytes of the ByteArray for something. But the library I am calling doesn't let me specify where to start from that char*. So...can I cheat? I mean, can I allocate ByteArray+4 in the image, but when passing it as an argument somehow say ok, take this ByteArray but think the the beginning is the byte 4 ? or something like that ? Thanks! -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Are the any Fuel file analysis tools/techniques?
Hi guys. Indeed, this is something we wanted since a long time and it has already been discussed: http://code.google.com/p/fuel/issues/detail?id=163 Unfortunately, nobody had time to do it. What we do have is written here: http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/Version1.8/Documentation/Debugging but the visualization that does not work well if the graph is large. If your object graphs you usually serializer are around a known range of size, you can check after the serialization if that was the case, and if it was not, then debug it. Something you can do is to put a halt in FLSerialization #run just after doing the self analysisStep.. At that point, you can inspect the instVar 'clusters'. You can see which clusters you have and each cluster understand #objects which answers all the list of objects associated to that cluster. If a cluster corresponds to a particular class you can also ask #theClass. But this only works for the serialization, not for the materialization. Cheers, On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: +1 I'd be very interested in that sort of thing. On 02.11.2012, at 19:08, Yanni Chiu ya...@rogers.com wrote: This scenario has happened a few times... Stuff is serialized and de-serialized (to/from files) without problem. Code changes are made. At some later date, I notice that the Fuel file is orders of magnitude bigger than it used to be. I usually manually de-serialize, and navigate the structures until I find the cause of the bloating. Is there some package or code snippets that can quickly summarize the object classes and sizes in a serialized file, or from its in-memory de-serialized form? -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] About a object life
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Only for new objects? If so, you could add an instance variable to Object and store a timestamp. Well, kind of ;) Because if you do that, your image will crash. This is because the VM directly accesses (by offset) certain instVars of certain classes. For example, it knows that the MethodDictionary of a class is at the offset 2. So, if you add an instVar to Object all these offsets will be shifted, and VM will be accessing incorrect places, and therefore, a crash :) On 03.11.2012, at 15:26, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com wrote: Folks: I wish know how old a object is. Any have code for this ? Thanks in advance Edgar -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Phobos Jenkins builds
Pavel, we drink it in the restaurant at the PharoConf ;) Anyway, it is also a project being done between RMOD (France) and Argentina and it is related about VM and how to implement as much as possible at the language level...or something like that. Cami or Guido may tell you better. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras vonbecm...@gmail.com wrote: joke The collateral effects of the Argentinian invasion! see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_(beverage) /joke On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.comwrote: Well, I need to create a configuration. BTW what is Mate? ;-) -- Pavel On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Some remarks: - - Could you use the latest setup as in https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Rmod/job/Mate/configure cause I want to get rid of all bash scripts in jenkins if possible ;) best cami On 2012-10-30, at 14:42, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I created a set of Jobs related to Phobos on the Jenkins server: https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Phobos/ The latest changes in Phobos include special integer input fields with automatic focus change, trees styling, various small fixes etc. Cheers, -- Pavel -- Bernardo E.C. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] running pharo on an iPad
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: btw in a couple of weeks it will be a jenkins job to build iOS vms... In the meanwhile, what about creating a page in Pharo webpage about mobile and we link there the binaries for the iOS and android vm ? or maybe in the same page of Download but in a different paragraph. On Oct 27, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, that's because DrGeo is a private development, and you need a development profile for running applications in your iPhone/iPad. Assuming that you already has in your system: 1) Xcode (I'm using version 4.4) 2) CMake (I'm using version 2.8.8) And assuming also that you already has an iOS development user... For use pharo in your iPad you need to follow the following steps: 1) clone https://git.gitorious.org/~estebanlm/cogvm/cog-osx.git 2) in ./image dir prepare a VMMaker image (using pharo 1.4): Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfCog'; load. (Smaltalk at: #ConfigurationOfCog) project lastVersion load. 3) Generate sources for iPhone: StackIPhoneConfig new generateSources; generate. 4) Generate your iPhone image (follow the instructions in iosbuild/resources/README), which is the place where iOS images need to be placed. 5) In dir ./build build$ ../codegen-scripts/extract-commit-info.sh build$ cmake -G Xcode . build$ open iStackVM.image 5.1) you probably need to add your own development profile, the default one is named iPhone Developer 6) run ALTERNATE To run in Simulator: Replace in Step 3 from StackIPhoneConfig to StackSimulatorConfig On Oct 27, 2012, at 1:09 AM, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I was searching for way to run pharo on my ipad and I found this thread http://forum.world.st/Pharo-for-iOS-td3832888.html that lead me to this website http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9643745/DrGeo/DrGeoTestBF.html The problem is when I try to install by website or by iTunes my ipad complains it cannot install Dr. Geo So is there a way to make pharo run on my ipad ? -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] pharo system
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:37 AM, gorgui ndong gorguind...@hotmail.frwrote: I'm writing a parser for abap in pharo, with Pharo-1.4 windows version. Sometimes with a bad expression pharo stop responding, when i do alt + it don't work. Hi Gorgui. To interrupt a process check: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Tidbits/TipsAndTricks/InterruptKey/ Best regards Gorgui From: stephane.duca...@inria.fr Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:14:33 +0200 To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] pharo system Hi Gorgui can you tell us what you are doing? Which system? Which os? on mac cmd+ . should bring a debugger Stef On Oct 26, 2012, at 1:09 AM, gorgui ndong wrote: Hi, I'm a beginner in pharo, and sometimes the pharo system is completely down. It don't give me a feedback for say me why this system error occurs. So I want to know what are the main causes of pharo's crashes and if i'm in this case what can i do for not loose my last image, with my last changes. Thanks Gorgui -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Hello + postgresql
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Yanni Chiu ya...@rogers.com wrote: On 19/10/12 12:38 PM, roberto.minelli-BHDiRLqP7qo@**public.gmane.orgroberto.minelli-bhdirlqp...@public.gmane.orgwrote: I managed to have Pharo 1.4 with a working version of PostgresV2 native driver. I'll try with a fresh image and dbxtalk and let you guys know. If the native Postgres driver is good enough for now, there's no need to bother getting hardware specific opendbx libraries to work. However, the dbxtalk configuration includes Glorp, which you might want to try out. Yes, but still, you can also use Glorp with the native postgres driver if you want. (((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX) perform: #project) perform: #version: with: #stable) load: 'GlorpPostgresV2Native' If you have more questions/problems, please ask :) -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Parsing Smalltalk Array/Object Literals
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 October 2012 13:39, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 2012/10/21 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com i now modelling a system logger (to replace .changes file), and since i having no better idea, i'll try to use object literals for it. Do you see Deltas project? Sure i know about deltas. I was hacking it. :) I think one of the proposals was .changes file replacement not exactly. it is more changeset replacement. What i am doing is a bit orthogonal: it is a facility to recover lost changes. All of the sources will be held inside image. But one very common case to recover lost changes is when the image is broken... so if you store the stuff in the image... -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Parsing Smalltalk Array/Object Literals
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On Oct 21, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 October 2012 13:39, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 2012/10/21 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com i now modelling a system logger (to replace .changes file), and since i having no better idea, i'll try to use object literals for it. Do you see Deltas project? Sure i know about deltas. I was hacking it. :) I think one of the proposals was .changes file replacement not exactly. it is more changeset replacement. What i am doing is a bit orthogonal: it is a facility to recover lost changes. All of the sources will be held inside image. But one very common case to recover lost changes is when the image is broken... so if you store the stuff in the image... The .changes right now has two duties 1) Be a log in case of crash. Like a transaction log in a database... 2) the place where the sourcecode is because it is oh so large. So I vote for splitting where source is stored from the transaction log. The log file then will be just a log. e.g. the image that you download: the log will be empty. The log can be deleted at any point, it is just a log. + music to my ears. I have been dreaming with this since a log long time Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] how can I get a 20 image without Nautilus and RB?
To answer your question: right now, there is no way I am aware of. The only thing you may want to try is to manually unload the packages :( On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys Since now Metacello is loaded and I would like to check the new configurationOfRefactoringBrowser, Nautilus and many others… :) I would like to know if there is an image that I can use to test them. In addition, as you guess, I would like that the integration server is loading them for us from the configurations :) Remember we want a modular and small system. Esteban (I know that you do not have enough time to work on what we both want :). We will have to resurrect this project :) Stef -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel for Squeak stupid questions
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Edgar, There is indeed a bug in Fuel, namely Fuel ignores the local time zone. The reason why I didn't detect that in my image is that Squeak seems to have some problems of its own in determining the correct time zone… :) Mm is this Squeak only or also in Pharo? I'll write a fix for that. Cheers, Max On 16.10.2012, at 12:55, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/16/12 3:52 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: I checked against build 11925 (found here: http://ftp.squeak.org/trunk/). Did you get your image from somewhere else? I can take a look at the image if you like. You'd just have to put it somewhere for me to download (together with the changes of course). Max Changes was grouped into 'SL' ChangeSet These days try to learn from Fuel and from Phobos to get into this image, currently I use modify HV2 as light web framework The .image is saved as NO Cog format and runs with both Elliot and Esteban or with old John, in my case I have old hardware (that's why I saved and updated with Squeak 4.2.5beta1U ) I send direct to you as this is very preliminar for going public Very thanks Edgar -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel for Squeak stupid questions
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Ah! Could you try the Date fix I proposed in a 4.3 image? BTW I'm working on fixing the other failing tests (for 4.3) aswell. Excellent. Once you finish, let us know. We can do a compatibility package if you want. It works like this for Pharo: last Fuel (trunk) is supposed to work with last (trunk) of Pharo, right now 2.0. Then, we have a package with overrides or some other dirty hacks to work with each previous version of Pharo. And then Metacello takes care of automatically load the necessary compatibility packages. See the ConfigurationOfFuelbaseline19: and look the FuelCompatibilityXXX packages. We could have the same for Squeak if somebody do them. Cheers, Cheers, Max On 11.10.2012, at 11:48, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/10/12 11:04 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Edgar, which version of Squeak are you using? Max Current Squeak 4.4 updated with some code I add. Edgar -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel for Squeak stupid questions
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the failing tests I see that the objects really are supposed to be different (comparison with #~~). What fails is the equality check (#=) and for Date that is the method Timespan=. The problem that occurs there is a really old (and annoying one), namely that the timezone offset is handled inconsistently: the materialized object has the correct offset while the original object doesn't. I think it could work if you just remove DatefuelAccept: . Can you try? So: - FLBasicSerializationTesttestDate fails because of timezone offset - FLBasicSerializationTesttestGradientFillStyle fails because Object= isn't overridden in any subclass and therefore identity is checked, which fails - (same as above for FLBasicInMemorySerializationTest) The other failures seem to be due to implementation differences between Pharo and Squeak (I didn't really look into them) but I couldn't find one test that seemed to fail because of hashing problems. Yes, I didn't really understand the thing with the hashes. I don't think there should be a problem there. Something obvious is that a normal object that is serialized will probabyt have a different identityHash than the materialized object. Thanks! I'll see if I can come up with a test case. Cheers, Max On 07.10.2012, at 16:38, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: The two objects I looked at where a string and an OrderedCollection. I wouldn't conclude that the problem is class specific... On 07.10.2012, at 16:12, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/7/12 10:51 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Following you example, in Squeak FLBasicSerializationTest#testDate materialized largeIdentityHash = 2571 anObject. largeIdentityHash = *1094 * So why Date serializaded object gives this and the rest of objects no ? Edgar -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel for Squeak stupid questions
Hi Edgar. Which version are you using exactly of the package Fuel? Thanks, On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Mariano: Just have Fuel loaded into Squeak. Trying to understand , first I run Sunit The test says 240 run, 231 passes, 2 expected failures, 6 failures, 0 errors, 1 unexpected passes failures FLBasicSerializationTest#testDate FLBasicSerializationTest#testGradientFillStyle FLInMemoryBasicSerializationTest#testDate FLInMemoryBasicSerializationTest#testGradientFillStyle FLMigrationTest#testFormatFixedToVariable FLMigrationTest#testFormatVariableToFixed FLWeakObjectsTest#testAssociationWithWeakFinalizationList In testDate, clicking in debugger for materialized and for anObject both shows as Date objects with 14 May 2002 as value. Could tell why anObject = materialized evaluates to false ? Edgar -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Squeak Community Project: MutationEngine
Hi Anton, which is the main differences with http://code.google.com/p/mutalk/ ? (if you happen to already know that project) Thanks, On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Anton Gulenko anton.gule...@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de wrote: Dear Frank, The MethodEngine project is not an implementation of method wrappers. The focus is on automatic (but also controlled) generation of program mutations. In fact, the MethodEngine can USE an implementation of method wrappers to inject a mutation into the program. It could also use other mechanisms like directly compiling the modified code or using AOP. Best regards, Anton 2012/10/4 Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com: On 4 October 2012 09:59, Anton Gulenko anton.gule...@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de wrote: Dear Community, We would like to announce a new Squeak Community Project by the Software Architecture Group, Hasso-Plattner-Institute. Our new MutationEngine is a library to inject random modifications (mutations) in order to insert defects into Smalltalk programs and to make them crash. With that, you can automatically check and evaluate the effectivity of your debugging and testing approaches. The MutationEngine also provides a safe clean up at the end so that your Squeak system is not affected after a critical mutation. This looks very interesting. It's also about the third implementation of method wrappers that I've seen (the others being the in-image example, and ObjectsAsMethodsWrapper), and makes me wonder if we shouldn't have a single best-of-everything library for what's clearly a broadly useful tool. frank A description, setup instructions and a tutorial can be found in the following Wiki article: https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki/mutations Best regards, Anton -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] rmod is down - fuel for squeak?
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: No, this time it's not for seaside hosting. It's another application that we cannot port to Pharo at the moment. Ok. What you should try to do (since I guess Metacello does not work there) is to manually load this (the order is important): ConfigurationOfFuel project stableVersion record a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.8 [ConfigurationOfFuel] load : Fuel-MartinDias.685 load : FuelTests-MartinDias.267 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo20-MartinDias.4 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo14-MartinDias.3 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo13-MarianoMartinezPeck.3 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo12-MartinDias.8 load : FuelCompatibilityForSqueak-MMP.4 load : FuelTestsCompatibilityForSqueak) and try to see what happens :) Max On 01.10.2012, at 23:07, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mariano. I can confirm that it works out of the box in Squeak 4.3. :) I have a 3.9 image though… :) I'll let you know if I get it running on there Let me know if I can help. If you make it work, we can do a compatibility package and put it in ConfigurationOfFUel so that it loads automatically in Squeak 3.9. (might be simpler to use a newer image though). Well, it looks this is for seasidehosting? in either case, why not updating to Pharo? because of the custom network primitives you have? On 01.10.2012, at 22:51, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted some info on Fuel but the rmod page is down… Anyways, I read that Mariano got Fuel running on Squeak. Is there an official version for Squeak? Hi Max. It should just work. The ConfigurationOfFuel should automatically load the needed compatibility packages. I tried in 4.3 and 4.1 (if I remember correctly). -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] rmod is down - fuel for squeak?
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.comwrote: On 10/2/12 6:36 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. What you should try to do (since I guess Metacello does not work there) is to manually load this (the order is important): ConfigurationOfFuel project stableVersion record a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.8 [ConfigurationOfFuel] load : Fuel-MartinDias.685 load : FuelTests-MartinDias.267 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo20-MartinDias.4 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo14-MartinDias.3 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo13-MarianoMartinezPeck.3 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo12-MartinDias.8 load : FuelCompatibilityForSqueak-MMP.4 load : FuelTestsCompatibilityForSqueak) Hi Mariano: Repository which you are using ? Hi Edgar, 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Fuel' I reading http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/ , waiting Tanker could be adapted to Squeak some day. Hopefully, I don't have time to do it myself but as always, I am happy to help is someone wants to do it. It should be very easy actually. Edgar -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-project] rmod is down - fuel for squeak?
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.comwrote: On 2 October 2012 11:07, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/2/12 6:36 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. What you should try to do (since I guess Metacello does not work there) is to manually load this (the order is important): ConfigurationOfFuel project stableVersion record a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.8 [ConfigurationOfFuel] load : Fuel-MartinDias.685 load : FuelTests-MartinDias.267 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo20-MartinDias.4 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo14-MartinDias.3 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo13-MarianoMartinezPeck.3 load : FuelCompatibilityBeforePharo12-MartinDias.8 load : FuelCompatibilityForSqueak-MMP.4 load : FuelTestsCompatibilityForSqueak) Hi Mariano: Repository which you are using ? Hi Edgar, 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Fuel' I reading http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/ , waiting Tanker could be adapted to Squeak some day. Hopefully, I don't have time to do it myself but as always, I am happy to help is someone wants to do it. It should be very easy actually. Unless someone beats me to it, I'll port it. (I have other things on my plate right now so if you (the reader, not necessarily Edgar) have need of Tanker in Squeak, by all means start without me and I'll pitch in when I have a chance.) Good. Before starting let me know that I can send you what I thought about how we could do it. frank Edgar -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
