Re: [Pharo-users] Why `aFileReference asString = aFileReference fullName` is false?

[Sebastian Sastre]

> On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> 
> OK, both of the following make sense
> 
> /Users/sven/Desktop/foo.txt
> file:///Users/sven/Desktop/foo.txt 
> 
> But what about native (OS platform) conventions ? 
> 
> I don't want to see Windows backslashes, but Windows user might disagree.
> 
> There is not one good solution, hence you must use specific 
> accessors/convertors.

The alternative to no one good solution is to find the sensible less worst 
solution. 

Do we have a way to strategise the answer of asString per supported platform in 
such a way that it will conform the string representation of the path to a file?

I’m still trying to understand the practical use of the current answer instead 
of strategize the answer per platform

Re: [Pharo-users] Why `aFileReference asString = aFileReference fullName` is false?

[Sebastian Sastre]

> On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> 
> the standard string representation of an abstract platform independent 
> representation of a file should be that: abstract & platform independent (it 
> would be terrible to mask that behind a platform dependent external 
> representation) 
> 
> furthermore it makes sense that the print string gives an indication of what 
> it actually is/models: hence it is useful to add the type reference (else 
> totally different ones will look the same)
> 
> there are other accessors that do what you want, why can't you use those ?
> 
> most objects cannot come up with just one single canonical representation
> 
> for example, according to universal standards, ZnUrl and ZnMimeType can do 
> this, but these are exceptions

I’m already using alternatives to asString, I’m not stuck, I’m trying to 
understand why asString is not providing what I consider a practical answer to 
a universal need (string representation of a file reference).

Why the strategy of asString would not have a fallback to a really abstract 
representation for an unknown platform and return the useful answer for when is 
familiarized to a particular OS? 

Aren't *nix platforms universal enough?

[Pharo-users] When to use a stream for concatenating text..

[sergio_101]

it seems that in more cases than not, i find that developers use a stream
when concatenating some text strings.

I am wondering if this is a smalltalk thing, or is there a real speed
benefit when using streams in this way.

Thanks!

Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

[Guillermo Polito]

Hi Nick,

Thanks for chasing the bug down.

Since the code for event handling is probably going to change in favor of
SDL2 events soon, I think it should be good to also provide some tests for
this, to detect any regression or problem, or at least to document expected
behavior. Do you have any pointers of what should be tested? Which are the
cases that worked or not and in which keyboard layouts?

Guille

El jue., 12 de mar. de 2015 a la(s) 8:48 a. m., Nick Doodka <
nickdoo...@gmail.com> escribió:

> After series of trial and error methods I found acceptable solution of my
> problem. That is chunk of code from Pharo 2.0 should be copy&paste to
> appropriate place in method HandMorph>>generateKeyboardEvent. This way let
> me to avoid problems with mouse wheel freezing or generating errors.
>
> i.e.
> .
> "Adjustments to provide consistent key value data for different VM's:
> - charCode always contains unicode code point.
> - keyValue contains 0 if input is outside legacy range"
> "If there is no unicode data in the event, assume keyValue contains a
> correct (<256) Unicode codepoint, and use that"
> (charCode isNil or: [charCode = 0])
> ifTrue: [charCode := keyValue].
> "If charCode is not single-byte, we definately have Unicode input. Nil
> keyValue to avoid garbage values from some VMs."
> charCode > 255 ifTrue: [keyValue := 0].
> .
>
> Full version of patched method I attach as zip-archive for v3 and v4
> apart. I suppose developers should correct this method in next releases of
> Pharo for the sake non-english users support. Thanks for helping and
> advises.
>
>
> 2015-03-10 16:10 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris :
>
>> Now it is Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30862 and Pharo4.0 Latest update:
>> #40474, but previous updates worked the same (ignore cyrillic capital
>> letters ЁНПОЛЄМ)
>>
>>> What is the exact image version (incl. update number)?
>>>
>> I meant specifically regarding the #isArrow error. I don’t think you can
>> be having this in 3.0, so you mean #40474 correct? Is it only after you
>> change the language?
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: Re: Native language support
>> 
>>
>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive
>>  at
>> Nabble.com.
>>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar parser rewrite: PetitParser or not?

[kilon alios]

It would be nice to have a parser to rule them all. I am currently using
SmaCC and gets the job done. I really like its condense syntax and its
syntax tool but also love the smalltalky feel of pettit parser.

Maybe one must bite the bullet and write perfomance critical parts in C or
even use a C parsing engine as a back end of pettit parser ?


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Norbert Hartl  wrote:

>
> > Am 11.03.2015 um 23:03 schrieb Damien Cassou :
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The current pillar parser has several problems:
> >
> > - it is hard to understand and change
> > - it discards input locations
> >
> > I think a refactor or rewrite is necessary. What are the pros and cons
> of using PetitParser to do that?
> >
> The cons are that petit parser is a heavier component and we should never
> underestimate that (just a reaction to a notion on this list). So we should
> avoid making things more complex, especially dependency wise.
> The pros is that petit parser will make it easier to extend and maintain
> the pillar parser. I've read something about a new version of petit parser
> that has a speedup of aprox. 1.000.000x. If that is the case then it is no
> downgrade speed wise :) Another pro is IMHO that are some people that would
> like to move petit parser closer (not too close) to the core. That again
> would make it a more standard component that makes it easy to write parsers
> for everyone. A good companion if you have regex and you exceed to
> possibilities it provides.
>
> I really have a bad feeling while saying: It would be good to have pillar
> based on petit parser.
>
> Norbert
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar parser rewrite: PetitParser or not?

[Thierry Goubier]

2015-03-12 9:46 GMT+01:00 kilon alios :

> It would be nice to have a parser to rule them all. I am currently using
> SmaCC and gets the job done. I really like its condense syntax and its
> syntax tool but also love the smalltalky feel of pettit parser.
>


>
> Maybe one must bite the bullet and write perfomance critical parts in C or
> even use a C parsing engine as a back end of pettit parser ?
>

This would be overkill. Smalltalk is fast enough.

>From what Doru was talking about, we should have at least some knowledge on
what is slow in PetitParser by ESUG. I saw some things by just profiling it
once.

My position on that is that PetitParser reliance on PEG is a weakness,
especially compared to the current state of competing tools (GLR in SmaCC,
LL(*) in ANTLR, Parsing with Derivatives, GLL). And if you combine it with
performance problems, then that doesn't look so good. On the other hand,
PetitParser has a lot going for it: parser combinators (but PwD and GLL
also have that), parser reuse, parsing debug.

Now, if you tell me a Pillar based parser in SmaCC, I'd say: easy and fast.
With a nice, formal grammar defining/documenting the Pillar as a side
benefit, which would make maintaining Pillar parsing very easy for the long
term.

(and that formal grammar would make writing a PetitParser pillar parser a
breeze :)).

Thierry

Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

[Ben Coman]

Hi Nick,

The best way to ensure this will get included is log an issue and submit a
code slice at pharo.fogbugz.com.  Then your code can undergo review and be
integrated in a managed way.

Read the "How to Contribute" link from there, and if its not clear, please
provide feedback so we can improve it.

cheers -ben

cheers -ben

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Guillermo Polito  wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> Thanks for chasing the bug down.
>
> Since the code for event handling is probably going to change in favor of
> SDL2 events soon, I think it should be good to also provide some tests for
> this, to detect any regression or problem, or at least to document expected
> behavior. Do you have any pointers of what should be tested? Which are the
> cases that worked or not and in which keyboard layouts?
>
> Guille
>
> El jue., 12 de mar. de 2015 a la(s) 8:48 a. m., Nick Doodka <
> nickdoo...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> After series of trial and error methods I found acceptable solution of my
>> problem. That is chunk of code from Pharo 2.0 should be copy&paste to
>> appropriate place in method HandMorph>>generateKeyboardEvent. This way let
>> me to avoid problems with mouse wheel freezing or generating errors.
>>
>> i.e.
>> .
>> "Adjustments to provide consistent key value data for different VM's:
>> - charCode always contains unicode code point.
>> - keyValue contains 0 if input is outside legacy range"
>> "If there is no unicode data in the event, assume keyValue contains a
>> correct (<256) Unicode codepoint, and use that"
>> (charCode isNil or: [charCode = 0])
>> ifTrue: [charCode := keyValue].
>> "If charCode is not single-byte, we definately have Unicode input. Nil
>> keyValue to avoid garbage values from some VMs."
>> charCode > 255 ifTrue: [keyValue := 0].
>> .
>>
>> Full version of patched method I attach as zip-archive for v3 and v4
>> apart. I suppose developers should correct this method in next releases of
>> Pharo for the sake non-english users support. Thanks for helping and
>> advises.
>>
>>
>> 2015-03-10 16:10 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris :
>>
>>> Now it is Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30862 and Pharo4.0 Latest update:
>>> #40474, but previous updates worked the same (ignore cyrillic capital
>>> letters ЁНПОЛЄМ)
>>>
 What is the exact image version (incl. update number)?

>>> I meant specifically regarding the #isArrow error. I don’t think you can
>>> be having this in 3.0, so you mean #40474 correct? Is it only after you
>>> change the language?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: Re: Native language support
>>> 
>>>
>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive
>>>  at
>>> Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

[Thierry Goubier]

Hi Nick,

thanks for finding this. I can now, finally, use the compose key on my
Linux keyboard to enter characters like Ç, É, À...

Thierry

2015-03-12 8:48 GMT+01:00 Nick Doodka :

> After series of trial and error methods I found acceptable solution of my
> problem. That is chunk of code from Pharo 2.0 should be copy&paste to
> appropriate place in method HandMorph>>generateKeyboardEvent. This way let
> me to avoid problems with mouse wheel freezing or generating errors.
>
> i.e.
> .
> "Adjustments to provide consistent key value data for different VM's:
> - charCode always contains unicode code point.
> - keyValue contains 0 if input is outside legacy range"
> "If there is no unicode data in the event, assume keyValue contains a
> correct (<256) Unicode codepoint, and use that"
> (charCode isNil or: [charCode = 0])
> ifTrue: [charCode := keyValue].
> "If charCode is not single-byte, we definately have Unicode input. Nil
> keyValue to avoid garbage values from some VMs."
> charCode > 255 ifTrue: [keyValue := 0].
> .
>
> Full version of patched method I attach as zip-archive for v3 and v4
> apart. I suppose developers should correct this method in next releases of
> Pharo for the sake non-english users support. Thanks for helping and
> advises.
>
>
> 2015-03-10 16:10 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris :
>
>> Now it is Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30862 and Pharo4.0 Latest update:
>> #40474, but previous updates worked the same (ignore cyrillic capital
>> letters ЁНПОЛЄМ)
>>
>>> What is the exact image version (incl. update number)?
>>>
>> I meant specifically regarding the #isArrow error. I don’t think you can
>> be having this in 3.0, so you mean #40474 correct? Is it only after you
>> change the language?
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: Re: Native language support
>> 
>>
>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive
>>  at
>> Nabble.com.
>>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter to navigate through the file system

[kilon alios]

Really impressive stuff. Looks like GTSpotter does not understand "~" for
home folder. It also does not preview images as gtinspector can and also
fails to preview text files that dont have a .txt extension like for
example .profile again GTInspector has no problem previewing.

Is it possible to modify the contents of a text file from inside
GTInspector and save that file ?

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Tudor Girba  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here is a little post that describes how you can use GTSpotter to navigate
> through the file system:
> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/searching-file-system-with-gtspotter/
>
> If you combine this with the GTInspector ability of allowing you interact
> with the file references, you get a pretty powerful tool:
> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/browsing-files-with-gtinspector/
>
> This is probably the simplest 3-minute demo you can give to a newcomer :).
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "Every thing has its own flow"
>

Re: [Pharo-users] GTTools and Mongo

[Torsten Bergmann]

Ben wrote:
>A blog article on that would be cool :)

This was already in the pipe:  
https://medium.com/@astares/building-a-mongo-browser-in-pharo-fe2104052843
but dont tell anyone otherwise our community will be even cooler ;)

Tudor wrote:
>And I see you used yet another undocumented feature: filtering the
>inspector :)

Sorry for making this more documented ;)

Thanks to Sven - his articles are inspiring! 

Bye
T.

Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

[Thierry Goubier]

Hi Nick, Ben,

2015-03-12 10:17 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman :

> Hi Nick,
>
> The best way to ensure this will get included is log an issue and submit a
> code slice at pharo.fogbugz.com.  Then your code can undergo review and
> be integrated in a managed way.
>

I've created an issue:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15121


> Read the "How to Contribute" link from there, and if its not clear, please
> provide feedback so we can improve it.
>
> cheers -ben
>
> cheers -ben
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Guillermo Polito <
> guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> Thanks for chasing the bug down.
>>
>> Since the code for event handling is probably going to change in favor of
>> SDL2 events soon, I think it should be good to also provide some tests for
>> this, to detect any regression or problem, or at least to document expected
>> behavior. Do you have any pointers of what should be tested? Which are the
>> cases that worked or not and in which keyboard layouts?
>>
>> Guille
>>
>> El jue., 12 de mar. de 2015 a la(s) 8:48 a. m., Nick Doodka <
>> nickdoo...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>> After series of trial and error methods I found acceptable solution of my
>>> problem. That is chunk of code from Pharo 2.0 should be copy&paste to
>>> appropriate place in method HandMorph>>generateKeyboardEvent. This way let
>>> me to avoid problems with mouse wheel freezing or generating errors.
>>>
>>> i.e.
>>> .
>>> "Adjustments to provide consistent key value data for different VM's:
>>> - charCode always contains unicode code point.
>>> - keyValue contains 0 if input is outside legacy range"
>>> "If there is no unicode data in the event, assume keyValue contains a
>>> correct (<256) Unicode codepoint, and use that"
>>> (charCode isNil or: [charCode = 0])
>>> ifTrue: [charCode := keyValue].
>>> "If charCode is not single-byte, we definately have Unicode input. Nil
>>> keyValue to avoid garbage values from some VMs."
>>> charCode > 255 ifTrue: [keyValue := 0].
>>> .
>>>
>>> Full version of patched method I attach as zip-archive for v3 and v4
>>> apart. I suppose developers should correct this method in next releases of
>>> Pharo for the sake non-english users support. Thanks for helping and
>>> advises.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-03-10 16:10 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris :
>>>
 Now it is Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30862 and Pharo4.0 Latest update:
 #40474, but previous updates worked the same (ignore cyrillic capital
 letters ЁНПОЛЄМ)

> What is the exact image version (incl. update number)?
>
 I meant specifically regarding the #isArrow error. I don’t think you
 can be having this in 3.0, so you mean #40474 correct? Is it only after you
 change the language?
 Cheers,
 Sean

 --
 View this message in context: Re: Native language support
 

 Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive
  at
 Nabble.com.

>>>
>>>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter to navigate through the file system

[Tudor Girba]

Hi,

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kilon alios  wrote:

> Really impressive stuff. Looks like GTSpotter does not understand "~" for
> home folder. It also does not preview images
>

Images should appear fine. What images are you missing?


> as gtinspector can and also fails to preview text files that dont have a
> .txt extension like for example .profile again GTInspector has no problem
> previewing.
>

This should work as well. Could you point me to the file?


> Is it possible to modify the contents of a text file from inside
> GTInspector and save that file ?
>

You could, but the problem is that at this point it is too expensive to
show the contents of large files, so we are only showing trimmed contents
and that is why you do not have the option of saving right now. This will
change in Pharo 5.

In the meantime, you can add a simple presentation that allows you to
change the file in your packages :)

Cheers,
Doru



> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Tudor Girba 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is a little post that describes how you can use GTSpotter to
>> navigate through the file system:
>>
>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/searching-file-system-with-gtspotter/
>>
>> If you combine this with the GTInspector ability of allowing you interact
>> with the file references, you get a pretty powerful tool:
>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/browsing-files-with-gtinspector/
>>
>> This is probably the simplest 3-minute demo you can give to a newcomer :).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>> --
>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>
>> "Every thing has its own flow"
>>
>
>


-- 
www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter to navigate through the file system

[kilon alios]

"Images should appear fine. What images are you missing?"

hmm it looks like I am missing the preview panel altogether. Is this
committed to Pharo 4 ? I got the latest Pharo 4 image just now.

"In the meantime, you can add a simple presentation that allows you to
change the file in your packages :)"

ok then I will look into that.

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter to navigate through the file system

[Tudor Girba]

Hi,

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:59 AM, kilon alios  wrote:

>
> "Images should appear fine. What images are you missing?"
>
> hmm it looks like I am missing the preview panel altogether. Is this
> committed to Pharo 4 ? I got the latest Pharo 4 image just now.
>

No, it's not yet. I made some changes recently and they are not yet in
Pharo :). You can find them in the moose image.

"In the meantime, you can add a simple presentation that allows you to
> change the file in your packages :)"
>
> ok then I will look into that.
>

Ok.

Doru


-- 
www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

[Pharo-users] Datathon for development in Paris

[Serge Stinckwich]

Dear all,

something that might interest some of you.

There will be a datathon organized in Paris in collaboration with
the MIT about data & development in African countries from April 7th to 9th.
Some companies and NGOs will provide open data. Orange, the telecom
provider will provided some data about communication between local
antennas and also trajectories log of people.

I have the idea of having a small team using ROASSAL for participating
to the datathon and doing some nice vizualisations.
Anyone interested to made a team ?

You could find more information about this event here:

http://simplon.co/blog/2015/3/7/datathon-data-for-development-rdv-les-7-8-et-9-avril-montreuil-

sorry only in French.

Regards
-- 
Serge Stinckwich
UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Re: [Pharo-users] Datathon for development in Paris

[Bernat Romagosa]

Hi Serge,

Do you know if these data will stay open and public after the event? At the
Citilab we're working a lot with open data and we're constantly looking for
new sources. I don't think we'll be able to come to Paris though...
El dia 12/03/2015 12.20, "Serge Stinckwich"  va
escriure:

> Dear all,
>
> something that might interest some of you.
>
> There will be a datathon organized in Paris in collaboration with
> the MIT about data & development in African countries from April 7th to
> 9th.
> Some companies and NGOs will provide open data. Orange, the telecom
> provider will provided some data about communication between local
> antennas and also trajectories log of people.
>
> I have the idea of having a small team using ROASSAL for participating
> to the datathon and doing some nice vizualisations.
> Anyone interested to made a team ?
>
> You could find more information about this event here:
>
>
> http://simplon.co/blog/2015/3/7/datathon-data-for-development-rdv-les-7-8-et-9-avril-montreuil-
>
> sorry only in French.
>
> Regards
> --
> Serge Stinckwich
> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar parser rewrite: PetitParser or not?

[Christophe Demarey]

Le 11 mars 2015 à 23:07, Tudor Girba a écrit :

> I completely agree.
> 
> I think there are mostly pros. It can be that the parsing will be slower, but 
> I do not think this is a critical issue for Pillar. 

not sure about the speed.
I hope we will adopt pillar for class / packages comments. Then, you need a 
fast parsing to render it nicely and quickly on the browser.
Fast/slow always depends on your comparison point. To be more precise, I would 
say we need to render (parsing + syntax highlighting) Pillar documents (at 
least one page) in less than 10 ms. 



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Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

[Henrik Johansen]

> On 12 Mar 2015, at 10:39 , Thierry Goubier  wrote:
> 
> Hi Nick, Ben,
> 
> 2015-03-12 10:17 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman  >:
> Hi Nick,
> 
> The best way to ensure this will get included is log an issue and submit a 
> code slice at pharo.fogbugz.com .  Then your code 
> can undergo review and be integrated in a managed way.
> 
> I've created an issue:
> 
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15121 
> 
There was already a case (with some issues noted to the fix), I linked to that.
Which makes me think, with the duality of communication happening in mailing 
list/issue tracker, it'd be *really* nice if it were possible to have a field 
in the issue tracker where you can link to a mailing list thread, and have the 
tracker post to the thread that an issue has been created...

Cheers,
Henry

Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

[Thierry Goubier]

2015-03-12 14:41 GMT+01:00 Henrik Johansen :

>
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 10:39 , Thierry Goubier 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Nick, Ben,
>
> 2015-03-12 10:17 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman :
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> The best way to ensure this will get included is log an issue and submit
>> a code slice at pharo.fogbugz.com.  Then your code can undergo review
>> and be integrated in a managed way.
>>
>
> I've created an issue:
>
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15121
>
>
> There was already a case (with some issues noted to the fix), I linked to
> that.
>

And I closed this one, since this is a duplicate of

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15085


> Which makes me think, with the duality of communication happening in
> mailing list/issue tracker, it'd be *really* nice if it were possible to
> have a field in the issue tracker where you can link to a mailing list
> thread, and have the tracker post to the thread that an issue has been
> created...
>

Why not.

It is also convenient, as it is the case in github, that replying to the
email from the issue tracker adds to the issue. (i.e. two way update).

Thierry

[Pharo-users] Tide

[Norbert Hartl]

For an upcoming project I'm thinking about what technology to use. I think it 
will be seaside or amber+tide. For the latter I would like to have some 
experience reports. 

Is anyone of you using tide and what is your experience with it?

thanks,

Norbert

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar parser rewrite: PetitParser or not?

[stepharo]

I do not think that we want to have many extensions of the syntax.
We should enhance it but I do not see it changing and getting extended more.



Le 11/3/15 23:07, Tudor Girba a écrit :

I completely agree.

I think there are mostly pros. It can be that the parsing will be 
slower, but I do not think this is a critical issue for Pillar. It 
would be more important to have an extensible parser.


Cheers,
Doru



On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Damien Cassou 
mailto:damien.cas...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi,

The current pillar parser has several problems:

- it is hard to understand and change
- it discards input locations

I think a refactor or rewrite is necessary. What are the pros and
cons of using PetitParser to do that?

Best




--
www.tudorgirba.com 

"Every thing has its own flow"

Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

[stepharo]

Hi nick

We would love that you can.
Now we need somebody with a non ascii language to help.

Stef



Le 4/3/15 10:37, Nick Doodka a écrit :

Hi all.
I would like to use Pharo in my native language (Ukrainian in my case 
or Cyrillic), but I cannot enter some capital letters to Workspace / 
System Browser because it's fails on letters: CapsLock or Shift+ 
-> [~YGJK"V].
That behavior take place only in Pharo ver. 3 and 4. In Pharo 2.0 all 
keys working good! What is wrong? Platform - Windows XP

Re: [Pharo-users] Why `aFileReference asString = aFileReference fullName` is false?

[stepharo]

Please open a bug entry that we do not forget and yes we need displayString


Well, not now. In Pharo 5 :)

Doru

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Tudor Girba > wrote:


Indeed. In GT, we introduced gtDisplayString which is meant to be
used as a default brief string representation.

I think that we could promote this to displayString now that it is
in the Pharo image.

Cheers,
Doru

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Sean P. DeNigris
mailto:s...@clipperadams.com>> wrote:

Ben Coman wrote
> Now the followup question is whether its natural to expect something
> better from #asString

I feel like #asString is such a general question that no
answer would be
satisfying. What string representation should be returned?
'file://'?
'/path/to'? And what to do with memory file systems? It's been
mentioned a
few times on the list that we should all be more disciplined
in sending e.g.
#displayString vs. #printString instead of #asString. The more
I hear that
argument, the more sense it makes to me.



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[Pharo-users] We are so lucky!

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Problem: Scanning a bi-fold pamphlet produced a PDF with two non-contiguous
pages per scanned image. After converting each page of the PDF into a png,
compare the following approaches to split them in half:

Assembler... I mean Write-Only... I mean Shell Solution [1]:
#!/bin/sh
if [ ! -e even-odd ]; then mkdir even-odd; fi
first="`ls -1 *.jpg | head -n1`"
let "halfwidth=`gm identify -format '%w \n' $first`/2" 
width="`gm identify -format '%w \n' $first`"
height="`gm identify -format '%h \n' $first`"
for FILE in *.jpg ; do convert -crop "$halfwidth"x"$height"+0+0 "$FILE"
"$FILE-A.jpg" ; mv `ls *.jpg | grep A` even-odd ; convert -crop
"$width"x"$height"+"$halfwidth"+0 "$FILE" "$FILE-B.jpg" && mv `ls *.jpg |
grep B` even-odd
 done ;

Smalltalk solution:
PsProcessPageImages>>#splitPages
imageFiles do: [ :file | 
self currentFile: file.
self splitCurrentImage.
index := self index + 1 ].

PsProcessPageImages>>#splitCurrentImage
self index odd
ifTrue: [ self rightFirstSplitCurrentImage ]
ifFalse: [ self leftFirstSplitCurrentImage ]
etc...

One fun change was:
  width="`gm identify -format '%w \n' $first`"
which became:
  imageForm width "oh yeah, we can treat the image as a real object and just
ask it what its width is!"

[1] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1665621



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[Pharo-users] Opening filtered Setting Browser in Pharo 4.0

[Juraj Kubelka]

Hi,

I am looking for how we can open Setting Browser with only desired setting 
items and found this solution:

SettingBrowser new changeSearchedText: 'sendUsageData'; open; expandAll

Is there a better way? We want to have a possibility to open SettingBrowser 
from Spotter as it was discussed recently.

Thanks!
Juraj

[Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] Opening filtered Setting Browser in Pharo 4.0

[Andrei Chis]

What about:

SettingBrowser new
changePackageSet: (RPackage organizer packageNamed:
'GT-Spotter-EventRecorder') asOrderedCollection;
open;
expandAll.


Cheers,
Andrei

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for how we can open Setting Browser with only desired setting
> items and found this solution:
>
> SettingBrowser new changeSearchedText: 'sendUsageData'; open;
> expandAll
>
> Is there a better way? We want to have a possibility to open
> SettingBrowser from Spotter as it was discussed recently.
>
> Thanks!
> Juraj
>

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
--encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "pablo digonzelli"  
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome"  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] Opening filtered Setting Browser in Pharo 4.0

[Juraj Kubelka]

Yes, this is also an option if we do not mind to show a bit more all options 
related to the spotter event recorder. 

Thanks!
Cheers,
Juraj

> 12. 3. 2015 v 16:15, Andrei Chis :
> 
> What about:
> 
> SettingBrowser new 
>   changePackageSet: (RPackage organizer packageNamed: 
> 'GT-Spotter-EventRecorder') asOrderedCollection; 
>   open; 
> expandAll.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Andrei
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka  > wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for how we can open Setting Browser with only desired setting 
> items and found this solution:
> 
> SettingBrowser new changeSearchedText: 'sendUsageData'; open; 
> expandAll
> 
> Is there a better way? We want to have a possibility to open SettingBrowser 
> from Spotter as it was discussed recently.
> 
> Thanks!
> Juraj
> 

[Pharo-users] Settings Browser: Moose 5.1 exported settings raises error in Pharo 4.0

[Juraj Kubelka]

Hi,

If I export settings from Settings Browser in Moose 5.1 and then open Pharo 4.0 
image, it raises an error "GTGenericStackDebugger not found in 
SystemDictionary”. 

The problem is a setting:
(Smalltalk at: #GTGenericStackDebugger) perform: #enableStackColoring: 
with: (true)

which apparently does not exists in Pharo 4.0. 

I think if we want to share settings between images, it should ignore any 
setting that raise an error, right?

Thanks!
Juraj

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
does not work . 
Any suggestion? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "Pablo Digonzelli"  
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome"  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
--encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "pablo digonzelli"  
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome"  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

[Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Mariano Martinez Peck]

Hi,

In this link:
https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/neo-json-paper.md

I see an example of a custom mapping like this one:

mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
mapping mapInstVars: #(id name).
(mapping mapInstVar: #timestamp to: 'created-at') valueSchema:
DateAndTime.
(mapping mapInstVar: #points) valueSchema: #ArrayOfPoints.
(mapping mapInstVar: #bytes) valueSchema: ByteArray ].


I need something similar, but I need to store the original JSON string that
was used to build a particular TestObject instance, in an instance variable
of TestObject too. In other words, I need an instVar "originalResponse" in
TestObject that would be set with the original JSON string.

Any ideas how can I implement this?

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Esteban A. Maringolo]

Assuming you store the original JSON string as a String object in an
instance variable named "json" you could map it as any other string.

Or are you planning to store it as JSON object itself?
Esteban A. Maringolo


2015-03-12 16:50 GMT-03:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :
> Hi,
>
> In this link:
> https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/neo-json-paper.md
>
> I see an example of a custom mapping like this one:
>
> mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> mapping mapInstVars: #(id name).
> (mapping mapInstVar: #timestamp to: 'created-at') valueSchema:
> DateAndTime.
> (mapping mapInstVar: #points) valueSchema: #ArrayOfPoints.
> (mapping mapInstVar: #bytes) valueSchema: ByteArray ].
>
>
> I need something similar, but I need to store the original JSON string that
> was used to build a particular TestObject instance, in an instance variable
> of TestObject too. In other words, I need an instVar "originalResponse" in
> TestObject that would be set with the original JSON string.
>
> Any ideas how can I implement this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[p...@highoctane.be]

Headless on windows is not working I think.

There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a
console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even
code for a Windows service in there...

Phil
Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli"  a
écrit :

> Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems
> --no-quit does not work .
> Any suggestion?
>
>
> TIA
>
> --
> *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli*
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
> pdigonze...@gmail.com
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
> --
> *De: *"Pablo Digonzelli" 
> *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome"  >
> *Enviados: *Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
> *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> Hi, i solve the problem!
>
> ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm
> --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit
>
> works very well
>
> TIA
>
> --
> *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli*
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
> pdigonze...@gmail.com
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
> --
> *De: *"pablo digonzelli" 
> *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome"  >
> *Enviados: *Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
> *Asunto: *pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am
> working on.
> I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
> May be someone can help me.
> TIA
>
> --
> *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli*
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
> pdigonze...@gmail.com
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Mariano Martinez Peck]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo 
wrote:

> Assuming you store the original JSON string as a String object in an
> instance variable named "json" you could map it as any other string.
>
>
But how do I get the JSON string associated to the TestObject instance?  In
other words...

mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |

"HERE how do I get the JSON string of TestObject in order to map it to
'jsonOriginalString'  ?  "

]



> Or are you planning to store it as JSON object itself?
>

no, a string is OK.

Thanks in advance,




> Esteban A. Maringolo
>
>
> 2015-03-12 16:50 GMT-03:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :
> > Hi,
> >
> > In this link:
> > https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/neo-json-paper.md
> >
> > I see an example of a custom mapping like this one:
> >
> > mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> > mapping mapInstVars: #(id name).
> > (mapping mapInstVar: #timestamp to: 'created-at') valueSchema:
> > DateAndTime.
> > (mapping mapInstVar: #points) valueSchema: #ArrayOfPoints.
> > (mapping mapInstVar: #bytes) valueSchema: ByteArray ].
> >
> >
> > I need something similar, but I need to store the original JSON string
> that
> > was used to build a particular TestObject instance, in an instance
> variable
> > of TestObject too. In other words, I need an instVar "originalResponse"
> in
> > TestObject that would be set with the original JSON string.
> >
> > Any ideas how can I implement this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > --
> > Mariano
> > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>
>


-- 
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

Mariano,

I assume you what this while reading JSON. That won't be possible. NeoJSON is 
designed as an efficient stream parser, working as it goes. So it never knows 
the whole JSON expression.

I would do it manually, but that can only be done at the top level.

Sven

> On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:22, Mariano Martinez Peck  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo  
> wrote:
> Assuming you store the original JSON string as a String object in an
> instance variable named "json" you could map it as any other string.
> 
> 
> But how do I get the JSON string associated to the TestObject instance?  In 
> other words...
> 
> mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> 
> "HERE how do I get the JSON string of TestObject in order to map it to 
> 'jsonOriginalString'  ?  " 
>  
> ]
> 
>  
> Or are you planning to store it as JSON object itself?
> 
> no, a string is OK. 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> 
>  
> Esteban A. Maringolo
> 
> 
> 2015-03-12 16:50 GMT-03:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :
> > Hi,
> >
> > In this link:
> > https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/neo-json-paper.md
> >
> > I see an example of a custom mapping like this one:
> >
> > mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> > mapping mapInstVars: #(id name).
> > (mapping mapInstVar: #timestamp to: 'created-at') valueSchema:
> > DateAndTime.
> > (mapping mapInstVar: #points) valueSchema: #ArrayOfPoints.
> > (mapping mapInstVar: #bytes) valueSchema: ByteArray ].
> >
> >
> > I need something similar, but I need to store the original JSON string that
> > was used to build a particular TestObject instance, in an instance variable
> > of TestObject too. In other words, I need an instVar "originalResponse" in
> > TestObject that would be set with the original JSON string.
> >
> > Any ideas how can I implement this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > --
> > Mariano
> > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> 
> Headless on windows is not working I think.
> 
that’s not related, —no-quit should be working (and —headless should be letting 
a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version?
image version? 
anything relevant?

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say “it 
hurts me”… not much we can do to help. 

Esteban

> There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console 
> version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a 
> Windows service in there...
> 
> Phil
> 
> Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli"  > a écrit :
> Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
> does not work .
> Any suggestion?
> 
> 
> TIA
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
> pdigonze...@gmail.com 
> Cel: 5493815982714
> 
> De: "Pablo Digonzelli" mailto:pdigonze...@gmail.com>>
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome"  >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
> 
> Hi, i solve the problem!
> 
> ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
> --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit
> 
> works very well
> 
> TIA
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
> pdigonze...@gmail.com 
> Cel: 5493815982714
> 
> De: "pablo digonzelli"  >
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome"  >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
> Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
> 
> I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working 
> on.
> I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
> May be someone can help me.
> TIA
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
> pdigonze...@gmail.com 
> Cel: 5493815982714
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Mariano Martinez Peck]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:

> Mariano,
>
> I assume you what this while reading JSON. That won't be possible. NeoJSON
> is designed as an efficient stream parser, working as it goes. So it never
> knows the whole JSON expression.
>

U I imagined that :(


>
> I would do it manually, but that can only be done at the top level.
>

Well...my list of TestObject is not at the root, but second level.
But in any case... how would you do that?

Thanks!


>
> Sven
>
> > On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:22, Mariano Martinez Peck 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <
> emaring...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Assuming you store the original JSON string as a String object in an
> > instance variable named "json" you could map it as any other string.
> >
> >
> > But how do I get the JSON string associated to the TestObject instance?
> In other words...
> >
> > mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> >
> > "HERE how do I get the JSON string of TestObject in order to map it to
> 'jsonOriginalString'  ?  "
> >
> > ]
> >
> >
> > Or are you planning to store it as JSON object itself?
> >
> > no, a string is OK.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> >
> >
> > Esteban A. Maringolo
> >
> >
> > 2015-03-12 16:50 GMT-03:00 Mariano Martinez Peck  >:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In this link:
> > > https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/neo-json-paper.md
> > >
> > > I see an example of a custom mapping like this one:
> > >
> > > mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> > > mapping mapInstVars: #(id name).
> > > (mapping mapInstVar: #timestamp to: 'created-at') valueSchema:
> > > DateAndTime.
> > > (mapping mapInstVar: #points) valueSchema: #ArrayOfPoints.
> > > (mapping mapInstVar: #bytes) valueSchema: ByteArray ].
> > >
> > >
> > > I need something similar, but I need to store the original JSON string
> that
> > > was used to build a particular TestObject instance, in an instance
> variable
> > > of TestObject too. In other words, I need an instVar
> "originalResponse" in
> > > TestObject that would be set with the original JSON string.
> > >
> > > Any ideas how can I implement this?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mariano
> > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mariano
> > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>
>
>


-- 
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

I don't really understand why you want to keep the original JSON. It is a bit 
like you don't trust the parsing and/or mapping. Now, the mapping I understand 
(somewhat).

So I would parse once without mapping, which would give you pure Arrays and 
Dictionaries that you are guaranteed can be used to reproduce the full original 
input. Pick the second level in that structure and use it.

> On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:47, Mariano Martinez Peck  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> Mariano,
> 
> I assume you what this while reading JSON. That won't be possible. NeoJSON is 
> designed as an efficient stream parser, working as it goes. So it never knows 
> the whole JSON expression.
> 
> U I imagined that :(  
>  
> 
> I would do it manually, but that can only be done at the top level.
> 
> Well...my list of TestObject is not at the root, but second level.
> But in any case... how would you do that? 
> 
> Thanks!
>  
> 
> Sven
> 
> > On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:22, Mariano Martinez Peck  
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo 
> >  wrote:
> > Assuming you store the original JSON string as a String object in an
> > instance variable named "json" you could map it as any other string.
> >
> >
> > But how do I get the JSON string associated to the TestObject instance?  In 
> > other words...
> >
> > mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> >
> > "HERE how do I get the JSON string of TestObject in order to map it to 
> > 'jsonOriginalString'  ?  "
> >
> > ]
> >
> >
> > Or are you planning to store it as JSON object itself?
> >
> > no, a string is OK.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> >
> >
> > Esteban A. Maringolo
> >
> >
> > 2015-03-12 16:50 GMT-03:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In this link:
> > > https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/neo-json-paper.md
> > >
> > > I see an example of a custom mapping like this one:
> > >
> > > mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
> > > mapping mapInstVars: #(id name).
> > > (mapping mapInstVar: #timestamp to: 'created-at') valueSchema:
> > > DateAndTime.
> > > (mapping mapInstVar: #points) valueSchema: #ArrayOfPoints.
> > > (mapping mapInstVar: #bytes) valueSchema: ByteArray ].
> > >
> > >
> > > I need something similar, but I need to store the original JSON string 
> > > that
> > > was used to build a particular TestObject instance, in an instance 
> > > variable
> > > of TestObject too. In other words, I need an instVar "originalResponse" in
> > > TestObject that would be set with the original JSON string.
> > >
> > > Any ideas how can I implement this?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mariano
> > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mariano
> > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Esteban A. Maringolo]

2015-03-12 17:22 GMT-03:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo 
> wrote:

>> Assuming you store the original JSON string as a String object in an
>> instance variable named "json" you could map it as any other string.

> But how do I get the JSON string associated to the TestObject instance?  In
> other words...

Why doesn't this work?

mapper for: TestObject do: [ :mapping |
 "..."
(mapping mapInstVar: #jsonOriginalString)
].

That would make sense if the jsonOriginalString is an immutable object
(from the application standpoint) that you keep in order to preserve
some sort of logging of how/where the object was created.

Regards.


Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the 
process. 
Does not matter wich vm and image are you using. 
For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm. 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "Esteban Lorenzano"  
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome"  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 





On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, p...@highoctane.be wrote: 



Headless on windows is not working I think. 



that’s not related, —no-quit should be working (and —headless should be letting 
a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version? 
image version? 
anything relevant? 

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say “it 
hurts me”… not much we can do to help. 

Esteban 


BQ_BEGIN



There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console 
version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a 
Windows service in there... 

Phil 
Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonze...@gmail.com > a écrit 
: 

BQ_BEGIN

Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
does not work . 
Any suggestion? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "Pablo Digonzelli" < pdigonze...@gmail.com > 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
--encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "pablo digonzelli" < pdigonze...@softsargentina.dyndns.biz > 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


BQ_END


BQ_END

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about NeoJSON

[Esteban A. Maringolo]

2015-03-12 18:09 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> I don't really understand why you want to keep the original JSON. It is a bit 
> like you don't trust the parsing and/or mapping. Now, the mapping I 
> understand (somewhat).

I guess this has to do with the fact that if you have a REST+JSON API
he wants to preserve the JSON payload that was used to create the
instance (in case of a POST).

So you first parse the JSON, create the object from it, and then
assign the JSON string to it (and this should never change).

Some API's preserve the entire request (including HTTP headers) in the
created/updated object.


Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-users] Opening filtered Setting Browser in Pharo 4.0

[Ben Coman]

PharoLauncher does this at the level of a group.
cheers -ben

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Juraj Kubelka 
wrote:

> Yes, this is also an option if we do not mind to show a bit more all
> options related to the spotter event recorder.
>
> Thanks!
> Cheers,
> Juraj
>
> 12. 3. 2015 v 16:15, Andrei Chis :
>
> What about:
>
> SettingBrowser new
> changePackageSet: (RPackage organizer packageNamed:
> 'GT-Spotter-EventRecorder') asOrderedCollection;
> open;
> expandAll.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Andrei
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am looking for how we can open Setting Browser with only desired
>> setting items and found this solution:
>>
>> SettingBrowser new changeSearchedText: 'sendUsageData'; open;
>> expandAll
>>
>> Is there a better way? We want to have a possibility to open
>> SettingBrowser from Spotter as it was discussed recently.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Juraj
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[David T. Lewis]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote:
> I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the 
> process. 
> Does not matter wich vm and image are you using. 
> For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm. 

The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is
part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays.
You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code.
The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different
VM command line parameters.

For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to
make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be
done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables.

Dave


> 
> 
> TIA 
> 
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
> Software Solutions 
> IP-Solutiones SRL 
> Metrotec SRL 
> 25 de Mayo 521 
> San Miguel de Tucum??n 
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
> pdigonze...@gmail.com 
> Cel: 5493815982714 
> 
> 
> De: "Esteban Lorenzano"  
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome"  
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55 
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, p...@highoctane.be wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Headless on windows is not working I think. 
> 
> 
> 
> that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should be 
> letting a window in the try). 
> 
> can you provide more information? 
> 
> vm version? 
> image version? 
> anything relevant? 
> 
> just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say 
> ???it hurts me?? not much we can do to help. 
> 
> Esteban 
> 
> 
> BQ_BEGIN
> 
> 
> 
> There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console 
> version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a 
> Windows service in there... 
> 
> Phil 
> Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonze...@gmail.com > a 
> ??crit : 
> 
> BQ_BEGIN
> 
> Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
> does not work . 
> Any suggestion? 
> 
> 
> TIA 
> 
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
> Software Solutions 
> IP-Solutiones SRL 
> Metrotec SRL 
> 25 de Mayo 521 
> San Miguel de Tucum??n 
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
> pdigonze...@gmail.com 
> Cel: 5493815982714 
> 
> 
> De: "Pablo Digonzelli" < pdigonze...@gmail.com > 
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > 
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 
> 
> Hi, i solve the problem! 
> 
> ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
> --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 
> 
> works very well 
> 
> TIA 
> 
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
> Software Solutions 
> IP-Solutiones SRL 
> Metrotec SRL 
> 25 de Mayo 521 
> San Miguel de Tucum??n 
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
> pdigonze...@gmail.com 
> Cel: 5493815982714 
> 
> 
> De: "pablo digonzelli" < pdigonze...@softsargentina.dyndns.biz > 
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > 
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
> Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 
> 
> I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working 
> on. 
> I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
> May be someone can help me. 
> TIA 
> 
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
> Software Solutions 
> IP-Solutiones SRL 
> Metrotec SRL 
> 25 de Mayo 521 
> San Miguel de Tucum??n 
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
> pdigonze...@gmail.com 
> Cel: 5493815982714 
> 
> 
> BQ_END
> 
> 
> BQ_END
> 
> 
> 

[Pharo-users] configuration browser descriptions

[Sebastian Heidbrink]

Hi!

Here is another information based on my last beginners session.

One should discuss if it might be useful and easy to implement to have a 
configuration browser that includes descriptions for the offered 
configurations.

Beginners have no idea what Seaside,  AltBrowser, Artefact,... stand for.

Cheers!
Sebastian